The Kevin Sheehan Show - Quinn With Hints On WR #2

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

Kevin and Thom with a full array of options on today's show. Sports topics include Commanders' "Mini-Camp" Day 1 with Dan Quinn weighing in on the WR2 situation. Also, Thom on the Knicks and Wemby, Kevin on where Brunson's 45-pt close-out game fits on the all-time list, Nats, World Cup, and yes, more Brandon Aiyuk news. Add to that, the boys somehow went back to the Beck vs Grossman off-season of 2011. Non-sports topics included but were not limited to bachelor parties, wedding rehearsal dinners and receptions, and a new movie Kevin's step-brother just released called "Time of Death" starring Michael Kelly, Kevin Pollack, and Mena Suvari.   For all your football betting needs: DCRELOAD at MyBookie for a 50% Deposit Match   Chime is not just smarter banking, it is the most rewarding way to bank. Head to www.Chime.com/SHEEHAN. It only takes a few minutes to sign up. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Bad Brandon weighed in at two. I guess what he's referring to is I said look if this guy's going to produce videos or social media posts maybe post something that shows that hey you're in shape and you're ready to play some football for once and yes he did he posted a video at very early this morning I guess of him stepping on a scale and weighing in at 208 now I think people believe question? Sure.

Did he posted to his Weight Watchers group? He did not post it to his Weight Watchers group. No. Is Weight Watchers still a thing? I had no idea that getting on a scale was some kind of athletic signal. By the way, I occasionally get on a scale, and sometimes I can see the numbers. So I'll have to take a video of that. Sometimes you can see the numbers.

Yes. and by the way, you can, I think, manipulate the scale to be off by 10 or 20 pounds, if you'd like it to be. Yeah, so apparently this is in response to, I think Albert Breer had a long post about, I guess, similar to what I've been talking about, which is you'd just like to get something from this dude that says he actually is thinking about football. like he wants to play football. And so with that, he weighed in at 208. His playing weight the last time he was on the 49ers roster and playing was 200 pounds. But we don't know if this is an actual weight or not.

Meantime, Tommy, there was a report from Sports Illustrated, and it's actually from, It looks like it's from Jose Sanchez who writes for Sports Illustrated. Oh, no, I'm sorry. This is from Jason Lock and Fora.

The Sanchez guy just rewrote the story that Lock and Fora wrote, which is that the 49ers are expected to release Ayyuk before the start of training camp. We'll see.

We'll see if that happens. God, I got to tell you, man, the Iyuk thing has gotten old quickly. You know what? It's the John Beck of wide receivers. In terms of subject matter. In terms of the subject matter. And we exhausted whether John Beck was going to be a starter or not. Provoked by him, I might want to point out, when he went on the air and went on, I

know if it was on the air or wherever and declared that he was the starter going into the season. Right. I mean, they never, I know, you and I got in big arguments about this. I remember this very much going into the 2011 season. Oh, yeah, I remember that. Becker Grossman. And Kyle, but think about what we were arguing about. I know that, but what else did we have? It was Becker Grossman, at that point. And, you know, we were coming off the Donovan McNabb year, which was, you know, certainly entertaining from start to finish in terms of the, just the absolute mess it turned into. But John Beck was... My point is, yeah. I think we were exhausted by a John Beck discussion,

even before camp began. I think we've been exhausted about conversations. relating to this football team at this time on the calendar every year. I think there is an actual subject. Like last year it was Terry McClure. Now, that's a real substance. That's a real thing. Yeah. Well, the starting quarterback thing in 2011 was a real thing.

We actually preferred, you know, I didn't prefer because I was a fan of the team. You preferred there to be quarterback controversy and quarterback competition. because that really did draw in a lot of interested people to the conversation, even if it did get old and repetitive, which it seemed to get. But just real quickly on the John Beck thing, you know, I had him on the show because he was part of that group that worked and does still work with Jaden Daniels out in California, the quarterback academy. And he was an excellent guest.

I'm going to say that this was, you know, sometime before Jaden's first season in 2024. And I've reached out to him since, and he's said, you know, I'd rather not come on because this guy, Taylor Kelly is the guy that works with Jaden more closely. And I've had Taylor on the show as well. And Jaden's mom is very proprietary about who speaks about her son when it comes to coaching. That's right. very good. That came out the last time Taylor Kelly spoke or somebody else spoke. I forget who it was. Anyway, John Beck was a really good guest, a really nice guy, and he really had, you know, Adjada talking about his time in Washington. He really thinks he let people down. He really thinks in many ways he didn't ever.

play to the level that he was capable of playing to. There was that famous game against the 49ers where he checked the ball down to Roy Hulu 14 times. I think that's still the actual record for receptions in a game for the franchise. There was the game in Buffalo where he took, I think, 10 or 11 sacks in the game. That game was actually not in Buffalo. It was played in Toronto in 2011. and in going back and talking to him about his time here,

I could tell he was uncomfortable doing it. But he eventually opened up and admitted that it was a painful time for him. That, you know, he had played, remember, in Miami, I think it was before, and had some success. And the argument that you and I had, and I know I can tell you exactly what it was, is I never felt, in part because, you know, I talked to various people who said this to me, I never felt like it was a legitimate quarterback competition that Beck could win, that Grossman was the absolute favorite of the two for Mike and Kyle.

But Beck was a guy that at one point, Kyle thought had some real potential. There was the story where, like, he stood up, you know, in the middle of the draft, you know, maybe when he was in Houston, I think, is the offensive coordinator and really wanted, you know, to draft him. He got drafted by Miami. I don't think it was the Miami draft. I don't, Kyle wasn't in Miami. He was in Houston at that point with Matt Schaub, I think. But anyway, I mean, John Beck was, I mean, I hate saying this about him now because he was such a nice guest. and I could tell how much he was uncomfortable about the games that he played in

and the way it all played out here in Washington. But he really was a guy that in warm-ups, you know, and lay-up lines looked great. You know, in basketball, there's always the guy that's going through lay-up lines in high school basketball, and you're like, man, that guy must be good. And then when they put him in the game, it's like, oh, no, he's not very good. He's best on the bench and in layup lines. That must be a terrible thing to live with. What, with being that kind of a player?

No, no. To live with feeling like he missed his opportunity. Yeah. Well, he got the opportunity, Tommy, because Rex got pneumonia. Before they played Carolina. I remember the game. And he got that opportunity. And I think he played pretty well.

And then it was like the San Francisco and Buffalo games back to back. And they were, let me see if I can find the number of sacks from the Buffalo game, 2011. Because I think it may have been 11. It may be the record for the franchise. You know my favorite thing. What? I think that doesn't Sam Howe have the record for most sacks? Maybe.

He might have it. Okay. You know, my favorite thing about John Beck was that he spoke Portuguese. I do remember that. Yes. Yes. Because he spent time there as a missionary in Portugal. Oh, in Portugal. Okay. Yeah. Beck, okay, so here it is. You ready? Against Buffalo in Toronto, a game that Buffalo won 23 to nothing. John Beck was 20 of 33 for 208 yards, no touchdowns, two interceptions, and he was sacked 10 times in the game. Ten.

Now the game against the 49ers was the next week, and that was the Roy Hulu game. And it's still, I'm pretty sure it's still a record. After 10 sacks, can you blame him for checking down? No, and that was it. That was, so against the 49ers, he completed 30 passes out of 47 for 254 and Roy Huloo, 14 receptions for 105 yards. He just kept checking it down. I mean, let's see how many receivers actually caught.

Like, the fullback Dorell Young had a catch. Ryan Terrain had a catch. catch out of the back field. Fred Davis, tight end catch. Leonard Hankerson, here's the receiver, and Jabbar Gaffney. These are names from the past. Each had four receptions. But, yeah. So, how did we get into this? How did we get into John back? Well, because, I mean, it reminded me of how tiring the conversation was. And we are exhausted about talking. about. I you can you point it out rightfully so? That's usually

the case in the off season, particularly when you're coming off a bad off season. A bad season. That's usually the case in the off season. I don't think when they were 12 and 5 and went to the NFC

title game. Well, Terry, though. I don't believe that. Well, that's right. We had the Terry's situation. If there wasn't a real situation, I don't think one would have existed to fill the void, because it would have been no void. Yeah, I mean, that's true. Look, I mean, we talk about this a lot this time of year.

Like minicamp started today. Three days of minicamp. We'll talk a little bit about the mini camp day today, some things that Dan Quinn said. But it's like, it's laughable to actually, you know, believe anything that you see or read this time. of year because there's just a long history of people getting excited or being, you know, concerned about something that never plays out when the real games begin. We just don't know enough about what's really going on. And our friends who are out there and they're on the beat and they're play-by-playing some of it, bless their hearts because there's an audience for it,

but it's really not super important in terms of what's out. actually happening in front of everybody's eyes. Now, what is important are things like injuries. Look at the giants. They've had like four or five major injuries in this offseason in their OTAs and mini-camp. You don't want that because that's real news. But the other real news are, you know, trades and or acquisitions,

free agent acquisitions. And this off-season is being consumed. after the coaching changes and after all of the roster editions and after the draft, we do have something post-draft before we get to training camp, or maybe even during training camp, and it is the what else are they going to do at wide receiver? Brandon Ayukes, not only out there, he's begging to play for Washington, and there's a lot of drama around it. By the way, again, the drama is now daily because he,

He is super active on social media and with the videos. So I don't really care about him weighing in at 208. I don't know if it's real or not. And the Jason La Canfora thing, I still maintain that unless he gets the reinstatement from the list that he's on, the reserve left squad list, and apparently he needs to apply for reinstatement or nothing can happen. And then shows up. and becomes enough of an issue for them to say, all right, get out of here. He's got to do that, though.

If he doesn't get to training camp, he didn't show up for OTAs, he hasn't applied for reinstatement from what we know. There's still an arrest warrant out there for him. We don't even know if that's been issued or if he's been arrested at this point. There's a lot going around, and I still think the 49ers, knowing, like you, do and most of you listening do, we know a little bit about the Shanahan's and you don't F them over and just, you know, and then have them do you favors. So I still think there's a chance that they hang on to them for a long period of time, like up until, you know, August 31st. But we'll

see. We'll see. John Beck. It was always something. It's always something. It's always something. I would say that the number one off-season conversation for all of the years that we've been doing this, especially together, is quarterback-related? That that was always the number one because they didn't have a quarterback most years. And even when they did, RG3, it turned into a circus. It turned into a circus with All In for Week 1. Right. They had the all-in for week one. Right. Yeah. And then, you know, we went, that's why I know people hate when I talk about him,

but the most stability at the position we've had, 15, 16, 17, you knew Kirk Cousins was the starter, you knew he was pretty good, you knew the offense could be pretty good with him at quarterback, and there wasn't a lot of drama, although, of course, there was because of the contract, because of the franchise tags. They created that drama instead of getting him signed to a long-term deal right from the jump. But we've got some stability at quarterback,

although last year created its own drama. What are we going to see this year? Well, we've got two new coordinators. It's always something. This is probably the case in every NFL city, unless you've had Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady. Yeah. Right?

Yeah. Okay. I mean, you know, Newcomers, I mean, Kansas City, you know, I mean, Kansas City might be the most stable of them all. I mean, because, look, in Buffalo, Buffalo, they have a new coach. In Baltimore, they have a new coach. Yeah. Yeah.

Is Andy Reed going to be invited to the Kelsey, Taylor Swift? wedding? I would think so. I would think so, right? Absolutely. He should be. I mean, isn't the garden going to be split? Half her people, half his people, like they do in a wedding? Usually that's

the case, yeah. Yeah. One side of the aisle is the bride. One side of the aisle is the groom. Can you imagine the, like he doesn't strike me as somebody that sweats this kind of a thing? But given that it is,

is going to be basically the wedding of the century in our country for the most part, that with all of his teammates, like who gets the invite and who doesn't, it's going to be interesting. Pretty interesting. I think you got to invite everybody, don't you? You can't leave anyone out.

You can invite the entire team? Yeah, I mean, the arena holds 19,000 people. You can invite the team. How do you know they're having it? in the arena? I think that's the whole point. I don't think they're having it in the, what used to be called the felt forum,

their little theater that seats about 5,000. I think it's been the arena. Okay. I wish I knew that was available when I got married. Yeah. Well, as a former Nick, you'd have filled that thing up with all your teammates and all their friends, yeah.

Yes, as it was. We had our reception in, in the Wayne, Pennsylvania, VFW. That probably was one hell of a reception. It was. Yeah. Our wedding, the rehearsal dinner night, the Friday night before the wedding on Saturday night, the rehearsal dinner was epic.

People still talk about the rehearsal dinner night. It was quite the party in Georgetown, actually. And it was a very late night. Here's one quick story from it. The priest that married my wife and yours truly was a family friend of theirs, but he became a family friend of mine as well. Kara lived in Minneapolis from like ages 3 to 10 or something like that, and a priest up in Minneapolis became my father-in-law's good friend. And he did all of the christenings. he did, you know, the marriages, the whole thing.

So he comes down to Minneapolis and, I mean, he had the time of his life at the rehearsal dinner, you know, after party. So much so that I came out of my house on that Saturday morning and found him sound asleep in his car in front of my house. I don't know how he got there. And it was, it was a March wedding. So it was chilly. But he apparently somehow was able to get himself in the vehicle and probably in no condition to drive back to my house.

And for whatever reason, decided he maybe, if my memory serves me correctly, he said something like, I didn't get in until very early, as in the morning, and I didn't want to wake anybody up. So I just stayed in the car and slept. that was the priest he came to us he came with us the next day to Laurel we went to Laurel the next day

for some races on my wedding day very cool yeah that's very cool yeah my wedding party and a few others we all headed out to Laurel hung out for a few races

wagered had a cocktail or four and then you know they got me to the to the church for the wedding yep Excellent. You know, I didn't even have, you had a bachelor party?

I did, yes. I didn't even have a bachelor party. I didn't have much of a bachelor party. I don't remember much of it, but go ahead, yes. What about yours? Why didn't you have one? The reason why was, I mean, this was still, I mean, I got married when I was 23. Yeah.

Two months from being 24. And I was still pretty close to the Danish. danger zone days. You know? And, uh... What do you mean? I mean? No, it's like, no, it's like, from the time I was 18 to 21, 22, uh...

You were a... I had pretty much seen and done everything. Right. Okay? Yeah. So, so I, I'm thinking, I, I said, you know, what can they, what can I do in a bachelor party that I haven't been to? Oh, I see what you're saying.

I see what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. So I said, no, that's okay. No bachelor party for me. Well, I got married at 28 years old, and I had definitely done a lot of shit at that point in my life. But my friends and wedding party definitely wanted to do a bachelor party. And I will tell you this, that it was memorable for about 30. minutes and I think after maybe like the eighth or ninth tequila shot, that was kind of, call it a night, TKO, Sheehan is done out. It was, yeah, it was, it was shenanigans start to finish. I mean, it started, you know, kind of midday. And then once we got to where we were, the shots started coming. And I just remember, for whatever reason, that night,

everybody was hell-bent on doing as many tequila shots as possible. And I was clearly overserved walking into it. And then I was, that was a, that was one of those nights where it was a long night and a very long, not only following day, but day after that. It took a couple of days to recover from that one. To recover. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Dan Quinn, I wanted to mention two things that he said today. And I will get to those. And we'll get to a lot more after these words from a few of our sponsors. Hey guys, it's great to have Chime back on the show as an advertiser this week. They've been periodically advertising for a few years, giving me an opportunity to tell you that Chime is changing the way people bank. And my younger self would have definitely benefited from using Chime.

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We'll see you when training camp begins. In fact, you know, some teams now are just canceling their mini camps. The 49ers did it this year. Quinn was asked about whether or not he would be cutting days from minicamp like they did last year and he said, quote, no, we're doing them all. They should, as in the players, should not be asking you, are we going to get a bone or anything like that? Nope, we'll be here. You might have had them off at some point, but they are staying for all three.

So I was actually just on with Grant and Danny on their show on 1067 The Fan, and they asked me about this idea that Quinn is going to treat minicamp much more seriously than he did last year. You know, that became kind of a narrative for some of the fans last year, Tommy, is that somehow, you know, the offseason and training camp was like club med, like it was some sort of, you know, vacation. I don't know if that's true or not. I think some of the people that were out there a lot said that it didn't seem as intense as it had been in 2024.

Maybe that's a reason for all of the injuries. Maybe that's why they're going to go to something much different. I guess that's possible, but nobody's ever proven that lighter practices equal more injuries. In fact, there's probably more data out there that says, lesser intensity in practice equals less injuries. I don't know if there's a magic answer to any of that. But last year's season, let's not forget.

I don't know why I have to keep doing this. But last year's season was not a disaster because they weren't good on the field. It was because their best players weren't on the field. That's why they went five and twelve. Now, if they think practicing harder is going to limit the opportunities or the probability of lots of injuries, go for it. Because I did ask Quinn when he was on with me about two months ago on the radio show. Actually, he was on the podcast with me. I said, what can you actually learn from a season like the one you just had, considering most of your best players didn't play a lot of football?

and he said it's very hard to really take away anything meaningful other than delving into why the injuries happened. Was it because of our practice schedule? Was it because of how we handled the offseason? Was it specific to how we handled the injuries? So we are going back to look into that. So maybe this is a result of learning something about the way they handled the offseason last year. I don't know.

But I would doubt that there's... There's a really strong link between what they did last year and the monstrous number of injuries that they ended up suffering. Yeah, I don't think, I don't necessarily. I would find it hard to believe if that would be the case. I think it's a simple answer to this, one that makes perfect sense. And one that should be the answer, above all, there's more of a sense of urgency. There should be more of a sense of urgency. Sure.

Agreed. Okay? Yeah. So because of that, everything else surrounds that. You know, there's no relaxing moments at this point. Everything should have a sense of urgency based on last year, based on the moves that were made this offseason, and based on their jobs that could be on the line. Yes, I understand that, you know. And at the same time, like if a team was driven throughout an entire off-season, an entire training camp, practicing to the maximum allowed under the CBA, hitting as much as you can hit, and they had a bad season, that team would be talking about lessening it the way they approached the following season.

Now, that doesn't speak to urgency. urgency is different. There should be an urgency after a season like last season. No doubt. That's what I mean. This is different. This is different than we're going to do this because we were too soft last year. We're going to do this because no matter what the reasons were, the results were unacceptable.

Right. You also have so many new players and two new coordinators. So every rep you can take, which would include all three days of mandatory minicamp, you should probably take every rep you can take. You know, I see, Sonny Stiles was asked about the Durante Jones defense, the new defensive coordinator. Right. And how his defense is. And Stony Stiles said, quote, I think if you like to run, hit, and play fast. it's the perfect defense for you.

And this is good, because I think on the show with defense, they like to walk, tap, and play a little bit slow. Javon Kinlau. What does that even mean? What does that even mean? I don't know. Javon Kinlau. We got some MFFs.

We got some MFERS on the team, and he went through the whole list. I mean, that's what you get from this time of year. And it's nobody's fault. and I mean the only reason to poo-poo it or to kind of like point it out is to kind of temper your expectations if you're building expectations based on what you're seeing now. Yeah. Kinlaw said something else yes the other day and I'm trying to find the quote.

I think he said something like the defense is super gangster. You know, super gangster. and I mean he's he's taught he I don't have a problem with any of this like his standalone things you know this time of year but if you know the history of this time of year with this organization and you're in that organization it might not be a bad idea to say to Javan Kinlaw you're making some big proclamations about the defense in the upcoming season let me just tell you that this fan base has gotten so used to being over-promised and under-delivered that they probably prefer you show them and not tell them it's coming.

But that's not the age we're in. No, it's not. That's not the generation we're in. You know, there was a song by a singer named Kiki D. Yeah, Elton John, Kiki D, right? Didn't he discover her? big hit called, I got the music in me. Right.

Back in the 70s. Was she British? She was British, right? I think so. Yeah. And there's a line in there where she says, I got words in my head, so I sing them. You don't have to say every word that's in your head. Right.

Or sing them. Right. All right. So here was the other thing that Quinn said. I don't think it's that big of a deal, but I'm always interested in when somebody asks something specific, you know, that would require naming names. What name pops into his head first, you know, or what thing pops into his head first? And he was asked by Scott Abraham from Channel 7 about which wide receivers, because wide receivers are a big topic, obviously, when it comes to this team. And he was asked, which wide receivers other than Terry McClure, has he been impressed by during this, you know, off season?

And he said, quote, a number of them have impressed. I would say on the outside, Van Jefferson has been somebody that's really caught my eye. And then he said having Diami back has been excellent as well. I hit him up after practice the other day. There's just a good intensity about him, a good mindset of where he's at. and so he's somebody that I've been super impressed with just off the bat. It's good to see. So Van Jefferson's interesting to me when they signed him because he's one of those guys

that I've always thought looked the part. And he played with the Rams and was on the Super Bowl Rams team in 2021 and been a part of the Sean McVeigh offenses. He came out of Florida. He was, I want to say that he was picked in the third. third round. I'd have to look that up. But he's like 6-1, but he always seemed to play bigger.

Like, you know, he was great and contested catch situations. He's not a burner. He's not going to, you know, take the top off consistently. He's not going to get the greatest separation necessarily. But he's just a solid player that I always felt like, like I remember the first time, he had a really good game and a playoff game against Green, Bay. I think this was COVID year. That may have been his rookie year. Let me just see if that's right. Van Jefferson, 6-1-200 pounds, second round in the 2020 draft. So COVID was his

rookie year. And they played the Packers at Lambo in the postseason that year, you know, with few fans in the stands. And it was a really, really good football game. The reason I remember it specifically is I had the Rams catching like I think it was four and a half and they were there the entire way until they weren't Tommy at the very end and I ended up losing. But in that game, he had a touchdown catch or two. I'm going to look it up right now to see if I find his game log here. But I remember watching that going, he's good. Like that guy can play. Here it is. The 2020 playoff game at Lambo. They lost 32 to 18. but it was a one touchdown game going into the fourth quarter.

Let me see if I had the points spread right in that game, because I had the Rams catching six and a half. It wasn't four and a half, it was six and a half. They lost by 14, 32 to 18. That's a loser. I bet it was a smell test pick. Van Jefferson in that game targeted seven times six catches on seven targets for 46 yards and a touchdown,

but a lot of them were like big catches, third down catches, touchdown catch that got them. you know, to within 16 to 10 right before the half. And when they signed him recently, I'm like, I think, you know, on this team, there's a chance for a guy like that. Like he's got talent. He's not old yet. And what do they have right now opposite Terry?

They don't have anything. Maybe Traylon Burks, maybe Diami Brown, maybe, you know, Luke, who knows who it'll be. So when I saw that that was the first name he mentioned, I took note of it because I I think when that's the first name that pops into mind, I think it's meaningful, even this time of year. And there's not a lot that's meaningful this time of year. So keep an eye on Van Jefferson when we get to training camp. He and Trelon Brooks is a little bit bigger. I think he's six, two and a half, six three.

But Jefferson plays big. I think a guy like Jefferson and I think a guy like Rashad White, the running back that they signed from Tampa. will be contributors. And I think in White's case, a bigger contributor than maybe most fans think he'll be. So those were the two. Somebody needs to be at running back. Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of fans believe it's going to be Kroski Merritt. That ends up being, you know, the guy that, you know, but they drafted your guy from Penn State.

I like him too, Ketron Allen. They signed white. Yeah, they signed White. Yeah, they signed White and Jerome Ford from Cleveland, white from Tampa. White's an excellent veteran, smart, versatile back. I think he's a better runner than a lot of people think between the tackles. I think he's got good vision, but he's a good pass blocker and he's a good pass catcher. And Bill Kroski Merritt, part of the issue I think they had with him last year is they didn't trust him as a pass blocker.

By the way, that's not unusual for a rookie running back. All right. You know who Quinn didn't mention? Who? Was the so-called notable undrafted free agent-wide receiver from OTAs, Cheaton Bradley. Yeah, well, people were played by playing his, you know, his OTA days, and he's going to be the next Antonio Gandy Golden, where people have him in the Pro Bowl before training camp even begins. Coach doesn't even know his name, maybe.

Well, I'm sure he does. But yes, wide receiver is going to be so interesting because, of course, IU continues to hang out there. Diggs is still out there. And yet, David Blow has said when he's been behind the mic in this offseason, he likes the wide receiver room. We'll see as the summer goes along. All right.

you wanted to weigh in on the NBA playoffs, the NBA finals, the Nats continue to roll. We've got a few more things on the show today. We'll get to all of it after these words from a few of our sponsors. All right, Tommy, tell us about Shelley's. Well, let me tell you a little story. Ben Standing, friend of the show, friend of the podcast, who, if you're not following him on social media or subscribing to his substack, You're being left out about commander's coverage. Okay, he tweeted kind of whimsical today a picture of all the commanders out on the field

stretching, you know, doing stretching exercises. And he posted, what's your ideal spot to stretch? And I posted mine. Where do you think that is? Shelly's. Yes. Shelly's back room. Right.

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incredibly underrated. I don't think it gets its proper due except on this podcast. Although people that have had it, they talk about it. But, you know, when they do the best burger in town, I'm always looking to see if Shelly's is listed. It should be. Great burger. Phenomenal burger. Absolutely. They should be, and they have plenty more on the menu. You can find their menu by going to shelley's backroom.com. And first and foremost, it is a cigar bar.

So when you're watching the World Cup and watching your favorite team on one of the eight high-definition TVs around Shelly's, you can celebrate that nil-nill-nill game with a nice smoke. Find out more at shelley's backroom.com. The nil-nil-nil game. There were, I think, a couple. I think every World Cup game yesterday, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm going to look it up right now. Ended in a draw.

Yes. Four games yesterday, nil-nil, Spain and Cape Verde, which, by the way, was... That was particularly noteworthy. Very noteworthy. That they played them to a draw. Yeah. I mean, they were a massive underdog, and they're a country that is an island just off the African coast of like 400,000 people.

Belgium and Egypt were 1-1, Saudi Arabia and Uruguay 1-1, and then I actually watched the Iran-New Zealand game last night. Not all of it. I watched some of it. I wanted to see what the reaction was to the Iranians at Sofi. Something I did not know until last night. There are more Iranians that are living in. LA than any other city in the country and it's not even close. I guess in 79, those that

escaped the new regime and made it to America for whatever reason they went to L.A. first. And by the way, they had dough because they settled in places like Beverly Hills and Westwood. And I think like there's a nickname. It's like Tehran Agilis or something like that. But the crowd was, you know, you could hear the. anti-Iranian sentiments, but for the most part, it was an Iranian crowd, which was really interesting to watch. New Zealand, who played them to a two-two draw, New Zealand is the lowest ranked team in the FIFA rankings in the World Cup.

They're ranked 85th in the world. Cape Verde is higher ranked than New Zealand. So it was actually a disappointing result for the Iranians who are ranked. 20th in the world. I had no idea. Like, I started looking up FIFA rankings because I don't know anything about these teams. I know that Spain's good. I know that Germany's good. I know that England's good. I know that Argentina and Brazil are good, like the regulars. But after that, you see these countries playing in this thing. And I, you know, like Curacao played Germany the other day and lost seven to one. But Curacao's like ranked in the 60s. Um,

U.S., if you're wondering, do you have any idea what they're ranked in the FIFA rankings? 19th or 20th? 15th. 15th. Yeah, so among the 48 teams, they're not like anywhere near the longest shot. Let me just see the MyBooky odds right now. MyBooky, by the way, just phenomenal World Cup action, people. Go to MyBooky.orgie.orgie.com.

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current World Cup odds. All right, here they are. The U.S. is 40 to 1. 40 to 1 to win it. That's not, you know, like, to give you an example, there are, it looks like they are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. They're the 11th. They've got the 11th best odds tied with Belgium and Columbia right now.

now to win the World Cup. This is not where it started before their 4-to-1 win the other night over Paraguay. By the way, Tommy, I did not think Paraguay was a well-coached team. Did you? Did you watch any? I just didn't like their strategy at all. No. No, it certainly wasn't a winning strategy.

It was not a winning strategy. I thought they really misplaced their players. The alignments weren't. I like the 3-3-4. four more than I like the two, three, five alignment. But that's just me. You know what I found? What? I found a lot

of players using the wrong leg. That's surprising. That's, you know what? That's coaching. That is coaching. Got to use the correct. Your stronger leg is the leg you'd like to use. Anyway,

what were we talking about? That's not what we were going to talk about. Let's get to the next, baby. Let's get to the NBA. Tell me about... I got some things I got to say. Okay, go ahead. Start saying them. But I don't want to say to him until I go over the basics.

It was a tremendous championship for the Knicks. You know, they had a tremendous postseason. Jalen Brunson is one of the all-time Knicks. Where he fits depends on your point of view. He certainly isn't first or second to me, but that's neither here nor there. Okay. We've already had this discussion, and everybody knows who the greatest Nick of all time is, and that's Willis Creed.

Okay. And let me talk about Wembeyanama a little bit. Okay. Because I know you've been pretty critical of him, and the style he played, calling him a dirty player. and I think he certainly, I think the image of him certainly changed in this final. Wow, did it. I think it changed dramatic. Now, I think it's something that can be easily fixed.

Right. But, because he is 22 years old and he is learning, but I remember saying there's not much not to like about Victor Wembe Yamah, and he gave you something not to like in this, in this NBA finals. You know, he was overmatched physically, seemed very tired. And again, you know, a long NBA season, you're down to, you know, the NBA finals. He's 22 years old.

All this is understandable. And the spurs are going to be a force of nature in this league for a few years from coming. because they have a good young core of a player. Right. Not just him. Okay, let me get that out of the way. Okay.

Now let's get to it because I'm on the edge of my seat. Okay. E. O'Connor, columnist for the athletic. Oh, boy. He's normally a very good, reasonable columnist, you know, got caught up in the hole. This is what has kept me from enjoying

what the Knicks are doing. it's this recency bias epidemic that's going on. He and others have declared, and I know that you've brought this up to one of your guests, I think, today. Was it the greatest moment in New York City sports history? And I don't think I have any hair left to pull out. Yeah. And insane. This is insane.

Let me give you two right off the bat. Okay. 69 Mets. Yeah, you're Mets. So New York Mets went from ninth place the year before to first place. Right. Okay. The worst losers in all baseball at that point.

In the World Series, they played one of the most powerful Baltimore Orioles teams of all time. They won 109 games that year, the Orioles did. They beat that Orioles team in five games. Right. Come on. come on that that's that's the greatest new york sports moment of all time except for and really let me do a get off my lawn moment now okay in 195 oh boy bobby thompson the brooklyn dodgers yeah defeated the new york Yankees in seven games in the world series that shook the city that was insane

the Yankees and the Dodgers had played five times before that over a period of 14 years, and the Yankees beat the Dodgers every single time. The Dodgers were the popular team in city. Brooklyn, at 1955, had 2.7 million people in the borough. That's a million more than any other borough in the city at the time. and they were all Brooklyn Dodger fans. That is the greatest moment in New York City sports history. We can go on after those two.

But stop it. Don't do this. So Ian O'Connor wrote that it was the greatest moment in New York sports history? Yeah, it's an embarrassment. I felt sorry for him. He should know better. You know, I had Tim Bond temp's on the show yesterday. the ESPN senior NBA writer used to write for the post.

He thought it was way up there. But his point was the Knicks are kind of solo, and they're the only solo in New York, because the Nets don't mean anything, you know, to New Yorkers. Whereas Jets' Giants, Yankees Mets, Islanders, Rangers, and I know the Rangers have a much bigger following, but everybody loves the Knicks, and it had been 53 years. That was his point is that it's probably right at the top of the list because it's so universally in New York and in the surrounding areas, Connecticut, New Jersey, etc.

It was so shared. Everybody loves the Knicks. Jet fans aren't screaming for giant, you know, Super Bowls. I'm sorry? Top five moments. maybe. Okay. But not the top moment of all time. And Brunson is nothing but a winner. You know, two national championships. Now an NBA title, he's a All-famer. Yeah. So there are two things coming out of it that I don't think I did talk about on the show yesterday, so it's not being

repetitive. I have a hard time, you know, with anybody that actually wants to say that this was one of the greatest teams in NBA history. It wasn't, in my view. It certainly was one of the greatest playoff runs. And based on point differential, it was the greatest playoff run in NBA, you know, playoff history. Plus 283, 53 points ahead of the 2017 Warriors. They were in, incredible during this playoff run. And it all started when they were down 2-1 against the Hawks, and they started to play different offensively. And they crushed people.

They crushed the 76ers, who, by the way, came in off of a seven-game series with the Celtics and injured, not completely healthy. Then they got the Cavaliers who came in off of a seventh game in Detroit. And then they got the Spurs who came in off a, grinding seven-game series against Oklahoma City in the Western Conference finals. I do think that they did not have the hardest road, obviously, to the finals. And they got a very young...

The Cavaliers were conscientious object. A hundred percent. And they got a very young, inexperienced, and as it turns out, a very immature Victor Wenbanyama-led Spurs team in the final. But in terms of what it looks like statistically quantifiably in terms of the run, I mean, they were annihilating people. There were nights. It was, I mean, that closeout game against Cleveland, I think that was the game where they had like almost 90 points at halftime. Was that the game or was that game one of that series?

It may have been the, they had like 89 points at halftime in a game. Like they were on pace to score a buck 78, like at one point. Like they really became very good offensively. Now the Spurs were by far in a way the best defensive team they faced. And that's why you saw 94 to 905 in game 5, you know, 105, 95, 105, 104. It wasn't the same 130, 140, you know, 40 point wins they were putting up. It was a great run, not one of the great teams ever. I'm sorry, but this isn't even old man get off my lawn.

I was around for those Showtime Laker teams and the 86 Celtics, who might be the greatest team ever, and the Bulls teams. I mean, this was a three-seed heading into the postseason. And then the other thing that I don't think I weighed in on was Brunson's closeout game, the 45. It's certainly going to be all-time memorable. To close somebody out, now it wasn't a game seven, it was a game five, but still, I mean, Magic's, you know, game in 80 as a rookie, was not a seventh game. It was a six, it was a game six in Philadelphia. For me, by the way, that's, that's the standard. In terms of a close-out game, Magic playing center for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in game six in the spectrum against Philadelphia in 1980, 42 points, 15 rebound, seven assists. That is the all-time close-out game. All-time close-out game.

But Brunson's 45 in the way he shot it, and the way he did it down the stretch in the third quarter, and then in particular the fourth quarter, he had a 12-0 run by himself. Incredible. I mean, winner, you said it. He's an absolute stone-cold winner. But it's not Magics in 1980 close-out game. All due respect to Jalen Brown. I did get this from Kevin. Kevin wrote me and said, Kevin, I think you went too hard on

Wembe. I agree that he was somewhat dirty and petulant throughout the playoffs, but his quick exit from the floor to the locker room the other night without shaking hands isn't the big deal you made it out to be. Those kudos and compliments can happen in private, and I wouldn't be surprised if they did. Well, I don't know if they did or didn't. But Kevin, I hear you. I didn't emphasize the walk-off as the biggest issue that I had with Wemby.

The biggest issues that I had with Wembe is A, he was a dirty player throughout the playoffs. He crossed the line multiple times. And if they had forced a game six, it would have been very interesting. And we would have known today, probably the NBA would have, you know, handed down the decision either yesterday or today as to whether or not he was going to be suspended for game six.

That would have been wild. They weren't going to do that. I don't think they would have done it, but it was an obvious flagrant that was missed. Yes. You know? Yes, but I think he would have had to literally, like do a Kermit Washington in order to be.

Well, he did one of those, not necessarily with a punch, but with an elbow to Nas read earlier in playoffs. You're right. Kevin, I do agree with you. you know, the shaking of the hands while the other team's celebrating the way they're celebrating and you're devastated that it's over in the season ends, I'm not hung up on that. I'm not. I think the thing that, you know, I would say is true about it, though,

it's another thing that you throw on the pile of things that turned this guy from literally two weeks ago, the golden child of the league now and in the future, and in 10 days, 12 days, whatever it's been, the guy literally has a completely different reputation. And it's not just because of the things that were non-basketball related. It's that he completely wilted down the stretch after running his mouth a lot. And he didn't back it up.

But, you know, I was reminded by a friend of, of mine today. In 1984, when the Celtics beat the Lakers in the seventh and deciding game in the Boston Garden, in the first matchup, the first of three matchups in the 80s and the finals between Bird and Magic, the Lakers and the Celtics, do you know what people called Magic Johnson after that 84 series? Tragic Magic, because he did not play well in crunch time. Now, remember, he had already had the 1980 moment. Plus, they had won the title in 82 as well. So he had already had two titles under his belt and had the greatest closeout game in history. But he really struggled in that NBA finals against the Celtics, could not get shots to go down, did not

play well in crunch time. And they nicknamed him tragic magic. Of course, he came back the next year. They beat the Celtics in 85, beat the Celtics in 87. And, as well. And then, you know, you go ahead to Michael couldn't get by the Pistons. You know, LeBron choked against Dallas, you know, hiding in the corner. And he was a choker until, you know, he wasn't anymore. Wemby's 22 years old. There's plenty of time for him to turn this around. But I do think one of the more interesting things to watch with his career is what kind of player he becomes offensively. Defensively, there's no doubt. This is all-time potential.

But offensively, what kind of player is he going to become? Is he going to become a player that literally wants to be, he wants to be Kevin Durant? Or does he want to be a 7-foot-5, 7-foot-6-inch center who dominates the way Shaq did? Now, he doesn't have the body to dominate the way Shaq did, but maybe dominates the way Karim did or Elijah one did with maybe a couple of moves. And I'm not saying he can't shoot threes. It's the way the game's evolved. But that's going to be the interesting thing with Wembe.

What does his offensive game develop into? Here's what he is. He's a very good foul shooter. Yeah, no doubt. You're not going to get those fouls on the three-point line. Not fair point. Yeah. Yeah, you're not going to be shot.

shooting 15 free throws a night, being the point guard, you know, and hoisting up the threes. I mean, people would be hanging on him inside, you know? Yeah. That's a good point. I think. I brought it up. Here's one other, I'm glad you did too. I think there's one other quick thing about the NBA that's just interesting, and that is,

this was the eighth straight year of a different champion and a different championship matchup. And that is after decades and decades of dynasties. And same matchups. I mean, we had Golden State in Cleveland for four straight years. The league is, I wouldn't call it a parity league, because there aren't, you know, 30 teams that can win the title. There aren't even 15 teams that can win the title. There probably aren't even 10. But the fact that we're getting a new champion every year for eight straight years is interesting. The way the league has changed. And some people will tell you it's better to have dynasties

and the rivalries that go with dynasties typically. Because you don't have a great rivalry in the NBA right now because you're getting different teams every year. Good point. Although when you get the next, that changes. That's a different conversation. Yeah, but the Knicks don't currently have a rival in the Eastern Conference or the Western Conference. That's different than Oklahoma City in Indiana in the finals.

No, no, no, I agree. And the finals did very well ratings-wise, very well. All right, a few more things. I wanted to ask you something. Yep, okay. Can we save it for the final segment? Or is this NBA related? That's a good idea. That's why this is your show.

On your radio station, WMAL. 432 WMAL. next. All right, we've got more show after these words from a few of our sponsors. Great to review this show. If you haven't done it already, it's really big for us, especially on Apple and Spotify. Follow the show as well. That's really easy. Just hit the plus button or the follow button. All right, you wanted to ask me a question. Go ahead and ask. Well, before I started doing the podcast today, I was watching a movie called Use Cars. Have you ever seen it? Used cars? I don't think so. It was made in the 80s. Kurt Russell, Jack Warden. It's

hilarious. No, haven't seen it. I highly recommend it. Okay. Very funny movie. Okay. Definitely on my list of the funniest movies I've ever seen. But it reminded me of something you told me about your stepbrother and the movies. Yes. What was that again? Well, he actually made a movie. By the way, real quickly, the best used car movie of all time, and it's not necessarily used car, but Tin Men's one of my all-time favorite movies.

That was hysterical. Richard Dreyfus and Danny DeVito in that movie were phenomenal. And Richard Dreyfus, you know, playing well, he was the car salesman. He was... Yeah, yeah. No, he was the aluminum. He sold aluminum siding.

But my favorite scene is when Richard Dreyfus goes in to buy a car, and he's dealing with the car salesman, and the car salesman says, you know, what do you think you want to pay for this car? And he's so, well, what do you sell them for? Well, I don't know. What do I want to pay? I want to pay $4 for the car. $4 is what I'd like to pay for the car.

Yeah, my stepbrother made a movie. You know, you've tried to do some things, right, you know, screen, plays or for TV shows, right? You've tried, because we've, we've enlisted the help of one Howard Gutman at one point, right? Yes, I have two movie scripts that are sitting there, still waiting to be made, still waiting for the right opportunity, but let's talk about what your stepbrother is. Yeah, no, I did tell you about this. He, and it came out last week, which is, and I told you it was coming out last week, the name of the movie is Time of Death. If it's available on Apple, it's available on Amazon, I think it's in a few theaters, but he did the whole thing where, you know, he wrote the screenplay, wrote the movie, went out and raised the money to basically put the whole thing together himself.

Will Wernick is the director in the actual movie. Actors like Kevin Pollock is in the movie. Michael Kelly is in the movie. These are great A actors here. This is good. Mina Suvari, you know, the, remember American Beauty, Kevin Spacey? Oh, yeah. Inette Benning. Yeah.

She was the object of Kevin Spacey's, you know, fantasies, because she was the friend of his daughter who was really pretty and was, you know, playing a high school cheerleader or whatever. Well, she's now a grown adult. actually, I think, still very pretty. How old is she? She's got to be in her 40s at this point. That movie American Beauty is every bit of 25 years old, right? At least, right? Older than nasty. Mina Savari is 47 years old.

Wow. 47 years old. American Beauty, 1999. So she made that movie at 20,000. years old. But anyway, Time of Death is the name of the movie. It's kind of a combined thriller, mystery,

horror movie. I liked it a lot. Karen and I bought it and watched it the other night. And I thought that this guy Michael Kelly, I think he, is he from House of Cards? I never watched House of Cards. I think that's what he was in.

I never watched House of Cards either. But he was excellent in the movie. And how can people see it? Again, I think, well, we bought it on Apple, but it's also available on Amazon. And yeah, I think it's in some theaters,

but I don't know if the theaters are local. But I'll tell you what, he did a phenomenal job, and it's one of those things where, you know, he's written a bunch of, I think, screenplays previously, but this was the one that he went out and was able to fund, get the application, actors, get the really good director, because this guy, I think, is an accomplished director, and, you know, and see it through. And now, obviously, with something like this, it's got a,

it's got to gain traction. You know, people have to like it. Yeah. This is what you should be doing for me. This is what you do. You should be raising money for me. I didn't, I didn't raise any money. I had nothing to do with it. I, to be honest with you, nothing to do with it. I mean, I knew he was working on it. But go ahead, what? You've done this in the past. You've raised money in the past. Yeah, for businesses, not movies.

Movies are like restaurants. You've got to... Those are long shots. That's your white whale. Raise money for my movie. Well, you won't even let me read the screenplay. I've got to be able to read the screenplay. Or is it called a treatment?

What's the proper term? No. A treatment is like four. or five pages. Okay. I wrote two screenplays. They're over a hundred pages. Wow. Dialogue. Well, if you want me to back it, to get involved in it, I think you got to let me read the screenplays. Okay. I'll send you one in them. I'll get to it right. It'll sit there. It'll sit there in your email box, along with the retweeting of my columns and everything else. Well, the truth is you won't send it to me. So, That follow-up, which probably would have been accurate,

we won't get to that point. Thank you, though, for bringing it up. I was thinking about bringing it up on my own, so I appreciate you bringing it up. But again, the name of the movie is Time of Death. And I think there are other movies in the past that had the same title, but this one is 2026, Time of Death. Michael Kelly, Kevin Pollock.

Pretty good. I enjoyed it. All right. I did want to real quickly, well, we kind of did the World Cup, but I'm just going to tell you that I'm into the World Cup right now. I've had it on in my studio all day long. France and Senegal just played, and that was like a heavyweight matchup. France is, I think, number one in the world. Either France or Argentina. I looked at it last night.

Now I can't even remember. I think France is number one in the world. Senegal is highly ranked, and it was nil-nil, but France, as we've been sitting here doing the show, exploded in the second half. Mbapé scored twice Tommy, and France won three to one. Tonight we get messy at 9 o'clock. Argentina plays their first game, and then tomorrow is kind of the last day of the first games. then we get into the second games in group stage. And there are, I think, five or six games. England plays tomorrow, and Portugal plays tomorrow with Ronaldo.

So. Oh, you're like a World Cup guru. I'm not a World Cup guru. But right now, what else is on? I mean, we're going to finish up the show with the Nats, but what else is really on that you can really get? I'm not sitting there and watching for, you know, 90 minutes straight or, you know, with the breaks now, the hydration breaks, the

quarters, the whole thing. I still, Tommy, it drives me crazy. The flopping is just embarrassing for, you know, adults to do what they do with no contact. That is still just an absolute embarrassment to the sport, at least for American sports fans, I think it is. And this is why, this is why my Super Bowl camp in three weeks, prediction would work so well. Yeah. They'd be really sloppy. Send the Seahawks to soccer camp for three weeks and they can win the World Cup, Tommy believes. But the other thing is they have now added what they call hydration breaks, which now makes this game less continuous,

this beautiful game less continuous than it has been in the past. But the funny thing is to keep like, I guess, the ruse that the greeze that the game is, game is continue, you know, always continues, never stops. The clock never stops. Even though they've got the quarter break, the hydration break, you come back from commercial and the clock's still running. I don't understand that part of it. The clock is just, the clock is just like a suggestion. It's a prop. It's a suggestion. It's a prop. It's a suggestion. There is no precision to the timing of this game. I, As an American sports fan where we measure everything in tenths of seconds, it drives me crazy.

But it doesn't to the rest of the world. They're fine with, you know, at the end of 45 minutes plus five. And then, by the way, it's not always plus five. Sometimes it's plus four. Sometimes it's plus six in terms of when they actually stop the action. And then at the end of the game, if your team's down one, usually it would be one-nil. if your team is down 1-0 and they add plus 6 of stoppage time once it hits the 90-minute mark, wouldn't you like to know that it's exactly at 96 minutes the game's going to end

instead of maybe at 95-32 or 96-57? Wouldn't you rather know that? If you were a sports fan, yeah. It is the sport for non-sports fans. country. It is. It looks like to me, despite the pricing, and the pricing is outrageous for this thing, looks to me like the crowds have been incredible in these stadiums. Well, the U.S., by the way, I think plays Australia next. And I think that might be on Friday night again. Is it Friday night again? I think it is. Friday afternoon, 3 p.m. All right, let's finish up with the nationals. They won again

last night. Dylan Cruz, big home run last night. They're now three games above 500, Tommy. If the season ended today, they'd be the third wild card team in the National League playoffs. I know. And the key is the incredible starting pitching they've gotten in the last six weeks. Guys like Forrest Griffin and Mike McCulles and others, pre-agent signed off a scrap heap. Yeah. have turned into quality starters. They didn't start out that way this year, but they've turned into that.

I know I asked you this the other day, but is there for people like you, a Hall of Fame baseball voter, in these seasons, do you have like a typical, yeah, you know, 60 games in, 50 games in, 70 games in, and then that's right now are 73 games in, they're 38 and 35?

It's no longer, you know, a smaller sample size. This is actually who the team is and is going to be. Now, injuries can always change that, understood. But are they past that point where you can't, like, say, yeah, but they're not good and it'll catch up with them. This is just a small sample size. It's 73 games. We're eight days away from the midpoint of the season. They're the highest scoring team in baseball.

They're three games above 500. I think the offense is real, and it's going to stay that way. I don't know about pit-to-pitch. Remember, the first year to Natura in town, they went 1531. Yes. And they went 31 and 50. Yes, they did. Alfonso Soriano had a big part in that.

No, that was not Soriano. That was 2006. 2005, their first season, they went 1531, and then they finished 301. and then he finished 31 and 50. I remember they went 500. Soriano wasn't on that first team. He was on the second team in 2006. Yeah.

Okay. My fault. Okay. Don't hurt yourself. What else you got? I got nothing else. I'll just finish with this because it's a big sports story today. Brandon Sorsby, the quarterback, you know, at Texas Tech, the guy that got caught gambling.

he's going to go into the supplemental draft, which is, by the way, just going to make life easier for Texas Tech, the Big 12 college football in general, that they don't have to deal with this. Do you know that he doesn't apparently have to give back any of the NIL money he's already received? Now, I've not seen what that number is, but he probably got $3 million minimum.

Texas Tech has now become, you know, they got that guy Campbell who's basically just writing checks. They were the best paid team in college football last year. But let's just say he got a million of three million. He doesn't have to give it back. They're not going to ask for it back. That's crazy. By the way, college sports are crazy. As a prospect, you know, I've heard people saying he'd be a first round pick. Maybe I liked Sorsby at Cincinnati last year. I didn't love him. He's got good size. He can throw the football a little bit. He made some terrible

throws in games in which I had Cincinnati. That's what I remember from him. But he looks the part. I will say that. But I don't know if he was a first round projected. I would bet in the supplemental draft, he's not going to be a first or a second round,

you know, a signed value guy. I would say best case, third or fourth round is my guess. All right, that's it. I will talk to you on Thursday. Thanks. Okay, boss.