The Kevin Sheehan Show - Ryan Kerrigan to Philly

Episode Date: May 17, 2021

Cooley and Kevin on Ryan Kerrigan signing with the Eagles opens the show. Also plenty of weekend stories including Kevin's search for gas, his putting yips, Cooley's 2-man, and more. Kevin finished up with the Wizards, Caps, Preakness, and Bobby Dandridge headed for the Hall of Fame.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheehan Show. Here's Kevin. All right, coolies on the show today with some breaking news coming into the recording of this show. I just got a call from our good friend Richard Doc Walker, Christopher, who was doing, you know, the doc that we know very well. Where, you know, I answer the phone.

I say, hey, what's up? And he's just going. And he's just laughing and you can't catch his breath. And I'm like, what did I say or what just happened? Because I had no idea what was going on. And he just said, you killed Carrigan this morning. You killed him. I'm like, what are you talking about?

And somebody did write me, I'll read you two tweets that I actually read on the air. So Doc heard me read these. Ryan Carrigan, for those of you don't know, not only is leaving Washington. and is not going to resign. And that was what I had for the radio show. I did not have his new destination for the radio show this morning. I had just the Instagram post that he put out last night, thanking Washington for all of his great moments here.

He signed with Philadelphia just moments ago, and he announced that, and I'll read to you what he said. But I'm looking for, basically somebody said, she and I would not want you writing my obituary. And then secondly, somebody tweeted out, you know, basically about how you used to kill Kerrigan all the time. By the way, neither one of those two things is true. Okay. What I said all this.

No, we're killing the idea of Kerrigan as a 10 out of 10 defensive end or outside line batterer. Right. That's what we're killing. We're killing the idea of him as a superstar. He's no superstar. He's never. He has never been a superstar. He drifted way further away from a superstar in the last four years, although he put up stats.

His superstar ability was what was killed. As far as killing Kerrigan, he's the epitome of what you want as a pro. Great dude, hard worker, relentless effort, in the wait room, in the meeting rooms, good leadership, all those things. Good. I think the reason we killed him, and I'm already fired up. this because I know that what you did and I know how I feel about it is because everybody wants you to tell you that he's the best player on the damn field. You're like, that's just not what it is. Stop telling me that. And so it's not even killing Kerrigan. It's killing like the idea of what

everybody else is telling you what Kerrigan is. Yeah, that's 100% right. Like if you don't say, I want to find this specific tweet about you though, because it's just whatever. I can't find it right now. I got a lot of tweets on Kerrigan this morning. And look, both of us, there were games where you did come in on Monday and Ryan may have had two sacks. And you did, you would say,

oh my God, I mean, the quarterback ran right into his arms on one of them. And the other one, he sort of got pushed by the running back into the pile and somehow they gave him credit for it. You have to admit, there were some warnings that you did that on Monday. And by the way, I'm not saying that you were wrong. Of course. Yeah. That's where 75% of his sex came from in the last four years.

Yeah. So, I mean, the bottom line with Ryan Kerrigan is he was a really good player. But good is the way to describe it. He wasn't great. He was a four-time pro bowler. He never was an all-pro. He was never Von Miller. He was never Khalil Mack.

He was never Aaron Donald. He was never Fletcher. Cox. He was never any of the real defensive players of the last 10 years, J.J. Watt, that kept defensive coordinators, you know, up all night prior to playing us. You know, never changed the game. Never, now what I will say, and I'll let you comment on this, I think there were a couple of things. Number one, I think at times he was playing out of position. I think he would have been a better four three defensive end for the last 10 years. Number two, many defensive coordinators, none of whom were great, and had him in coverage at times, which was really painful, as we all know over the years, to watch 91 in coverage.

It was like he was back there trying to stay in front of LeBron James, you know, or Kyrie Irving. Like it was just impossible. He was out of position so many times. But he was, you know, so you had that. But here to the positive, so those were some of the reasons maybe why he wasn't, you know, he didn't elevate his game. to greatness, but also he was always available. He was always a good player. He put up really good numbers. And I always felt like, and I think some of the numbers prove this, you know, he had 25 past deflections, had many interceptions, had a couple of touchdowns, had 26 forced fumbles, which

I think made him like top 10 over the last 10 years for defensive players. And the bottom line is, is he had a knack, Cooley. He did have a knack of anticipating things a little bit. And sometimes he looked like he chased the bootleg as the quarterback on a bootleg as the runner was running right by him many times too. But he was a really good player. That's it. Really good player.

Really good player. Yeah. And you can look at all these things. You can pull up all these stats and you can say, I'm looking at a stat right now that says, You know, most snaps played among defenders from his draft class, the amount of pressures from his, no one game planned for him.

You discussed him, but no one game planned for him, like they did JJ Watt or any of the aforementioned players. He was a really good player. And everybody loved him, and he deserved that. And he was also a really good guy, is a really good guy. and he's all the things you want in a pro and it ends as a at a B in terms of just pure performance I don't know why that's so hard to accept yeah well he's the all-time you know franchise sack leader okay with 95 and a half sacks but for those of us old enough I mean I'll give you

right now okay he's not even remotely close to Dexter Manley and what Dexter was and what what Dexter did to an offense and how Dexter had to be game planned for. He's not even close to what Charles Mann was as a pass rusher. So those two are head and shoulders. I don't care what the number say. First of all, remember Dexter's, you know, played the first few years before the sack number became an actual stat in the NFL. You know, Ken Harvey didn't play here for a long period of time,

but he was a better pass rusher and a more of an impact player as a Washington Redskin than Ryan Kerrigan was. Monty Coleman was an unbelievable at times pass rusher. Now, he was not in every down kind of player and he was situational and Richie used him in a lot of different ways. But, you know, this guy is going to be in the ring of fame. I have no doubt that, and he deserves it, by the way. He absolutely deserves it.

just like you're going to be in the ring of fame one day too. The two of you may go in together at some point. You should go in before because of whatever the timing is, but he's going to be in the ring of fame, but he's certainly not a Hall of Fame player by any stretch. He didn't have one all-pro season, not one, four Pro Bowls, one all-pro season. Really good player, really good guy. So he goes to Philadelphia.

And it's funny because on the radio show this morning, Cooley, I said, you know, I could see, two teams in the division being interested. I could see Philadelphia being interested, and I could see Dallas being interested. And I know Philadelphia has, you know, Derek Barnett and Brandon Graham and Fletcher Cox, obviously on the inside, but they could use. I mean, Ryan's perfect for a situational four-three defensive team as a pass rusher. Saying they stay exactly that.

Say that? Saying they stay exactly that. Yeah, yeah, right, because we don't know what the new coaching staff will do, right? Is that what you're saying? I mean, we probably could figure that out, but you don't know exactly what they're going to do. Well, he does. He does. Their coach does.

Yeah, but I would imagine Ryan. I'm sure their coach has a pretty good plan of what he wants to do on defense, yeah. Yeah. So he ends up in Philadelphia. You know, it's funny, Brian Mitchell's the all-time Washington player that left here, went to Philadelphia. and really played well in Philadelphia. He also ended up with the Giants. I just remember the players that came here, McNabb and Trotter.

And of course, Deshawn Jackson, you know, had some really good years here. The all-timer from Philly to Washington is Sonny Jurgensen, of course. So, you know, I wish Ryan the best. I wonder you played for one team your entire career. I wonder, apparently there are reports that Pittsburgh and Cincinnati were both interested in him as well. I wonder how much staying in the division in being able to play Washington factored into it. Yeah, I don't think playing Washington probably factored that much into it. It might have just been staying close to where you're at.

That might have been part of it. Maybe he likes Philly. I always liked Philly. That was a cool city. Would have been a fun place to play. Yeah, I mean, it's not like Pittsburgh's that far away either if they were interested. Nope, Pittsburgh. Where would you rather go?

Pittsburgh or Philly? Totally. I mean, not talking about Philadelphia to live. Philly, right? Yeah. I mean, I like Philadelphia, and I've spent a lot of time in Philadelphia, and I, you know, I like Philly. Yeah, and Pittsburgh's okay. Pittsburgh's actually a little bit underrated as a city, I think.

But I like Philadelphia. I'll tell you one thing. Ryan will, you know, like B. Mitch did, and I remember B. Mitch talking about it, when when people used to talk about or even players or coaches used to talk about how tough the media was in this town on the football team, I mean, we would all laugh at it, but Brian would really be the one that had the perspective. And you could, I mean, Brian doesn't laugh at a lot, but you couldn't stop him from laughing at that one. Because he knew what it was like to play in Philadelphia with that media, you know, that's sports media base. They are tough. So, you know, Ryan, thanks for, you know, playing well against us.

And we're happy to have you, but it's not like he's going to have, you know, a long, a long leash on, on positive thoughts. He better, he better produce there. You know, they've got a good defense. They've got a really good defense. They've got good players on defense. I mean, obviously, Fletcher Cox is a really, really good player. You know, they've, they had, you know, they added Darius Slay last year, Derek Barnett, you know, as a rusher. Brandon Graham. as a defensive end. Who am I forgetting in the secondary? You know, the funny thing is that I never loved Derek Barnett that much out of Tennessee. I never really loved Branding Graham. I think he's a good player. I've never thought branding Graham was a great player. Fletcher Cox is a great player.

I think they have Hargrave is a detackle from that. Who did they add it in the secondary? Why am I blanking on who they added? They added a safety or... Anthony Harris. Anthony Harris. Yeah. Right.

And then they And they obviously Avanti Maddox plays for the Eagles There's some talent there Yeah I mean They're not Uber talented He's going to get a chance

Obviously I mean he must think that he's going to get a real Real good chance to play a lot Well that could be the other The other part of the situation And we you just So Jonathan Gannon is the guy that's going to be the defensive coordinator for the for the Eagles He's essentially only been in four down defenses

He was with the Indy the last three years Eberflis plays a four-down defense. So I'm guessing Pittsburgh versus Philadelphia might have come down to 4-3 versus 34. Yeah, really good point. Yeah. Not to mention Pittsburgh has T.J. Watt, and they have Bud Dupree. Actually, wait a minute. Bud Dupree signed with somebody else, right?

Tennessee, didn't he? Tennessee, exactly. So they don't have him. And then Cincinnati. Would you say? Maybe he could have started in Pittsburgh. Maybe. Who else do they have other than T.J.?

The kid there that came in. He came in and played because Dupree got hurt against Washington, I thought. And he had a guy that played pretty well for a while during the season. I can't remember his name. He was a rookie. Yeah. All right. Well, Ryan Kerrigan, really, really good player, memorable player, Ring of fame player, all-time sack leader, really accumulated numbers, always available with the

exception of that one year where he missed, you know, four games. He basically played 16 games every year with the exception of 2019. First rate, you know, member of the community, charity. I mean, everything about Ryan was first class as a person and he was a really good player. Don't anybody, you know, tweet us and tell us that we ripped Ryan Carrigan because we didn't. We, we, we, He was a really good player. I'll never forget that curse game against Philadelphia on that 10-year anniversary of 9-11 and 2011 in the opener. He had an interception for a touchdown. And he was really good at sort of feeling things out and sniffing things like that out.

I thought that's what he was for much of his career. Oh, the other thing that I wanted to mention real quickly, so minicamp was this weekend. And look, people are, I mean, people are going nuts over some mini-camp. reports. You've got to be kidding me, people. Stop. You know, I mean, if you're, you look, if you're out there covering it for the media and this is your job, I understand. You got to, you got to talk it up a little bit. And if they're excited about Diami Brown and John Bates and Samus Reyes and the whole, whatever, but we didn't learn anything from this weekend. And we won't know anything until they start playing games. This time last year, AGG and Thaddeus Moss were potential rookie of the year candidates.

But what I was going to say to you is the fact that the news came out like late last night tells me that they got to look at this shock at Tony, the Penn State edge rusher, and maybe just said, you know what, for the price, if we're going to have somebody as like a situational pass rusher, it's going to be the young kid for hardly any money as a seventh rounder. Hey, Ryan, we're not, you know, we're not resigning you. Because I was told like three or four months ago that Ryan really wanted to stay. Like he wanted to stay here and was hoping something would work out. But obviously they told him no, and he signs with Philadelphia.

There we go. Anything else on Ryan Kerrigan? Other than why I would have wanted to stay here if I was Ryan Kerrigan. You would not. Assuming you like everybody involved and you like the staff and stuff, assuming you're happy with people involved. But as a player, yeah, I'd want to say. Let Montez and Chase beat him.

down all game and let's go in for 17 plays a game and get after a pass rush. Yeah, I'd do that. Seems like a good, good gig. No practice. Reps in practice cut way down. Know where you fit, know where you roll is. Yeah, it was, that was actually my goal towards the end of my career, which I wish they to let me have. It was just to transition into the two. Take about 30 reps a game. Cut my practice reps to about 15, 20 practice reps a day. would have been great. What's the closest... I was a veteran player,

because you just... They don't want to pay you. What's the closest you ever got to leaving? Did you? Yeah, I worked out in New York. No, I'm not talking about after the career. I'm talking about during your career. Never.

Never. No. What would you have... If they would have traded me, I guess I would have been gone, but that was not in my control. Before you work... out the big deal on your own in 2007, 2008, whatever it would have been? Would have been there two more years before I had a chance to go anywhere.

It was after my third year. It would have played all my fourth year, and then I would have been franchise tag in my fifth year, if anything would have come of it. Franchise tag at that time was $4.8 million for tied-in. And so you never, I mean, at that point you didn't think about, I mean, because you know what, if you had made it as a 25-year-old, 26-year-old, a free agency, you would have, you would have, sent a $50 million deal,

send a $50 million contract. Right. Especially after a Pro Bowl. Right. Yeah. But instead, you signed before, you know, in advance of that and signed a deal. And we've had this conversation a million times,

and you know the way I discussed this conversation when it applies to other players, that I have no regrets with what I signed. I know. When I signed, what I signed happy that I did what I did with that. no you've always said you know you I mean well it was the Brian Iraqpo conversation about you know when it's been a lot yeah yeah it's it's the burden hand I mean how much do you really need why would you take the risk when there's a boatload of

money there to be had right now even if two years from now or a year from now you could you know tap into more all right several other things to get to you right after this word from one of our sponsors If you haven't subscribed to the show, do that for us. It doesn't cost you a thing, and it really helps us out. Also, especially on Apple, if you're listening to us on Apple Podcasts, rate us and review us if you haven't done that. That really helps as well. Rate us five stars, and a review literally takes 10 seconds.

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or downloading the Odyssey app, which will allow you to listen to the whole radio show as well. So I'm so glad that you were available to come on today. I know you played golf this weekend, but I have two stories for you real quickly, all right? Number one is this. You don't have the gas shortage out west that we have out east right now, right? You're not, you're not suffering. No, I was just actually informed of that over the last couple days. Yeah. So Saturday morning, Friday night, Kara says to me, do me one favor tomorrow. I just need one big favor. What's that? You're going to be up early, will you go find a gas station and fill my tank up because I, you know, there were long lines or basically every other gas station on Friday didn't have any gas. So I said, fine. So I was up

and I was up early and I, you know, Googled, you know, the 24 hour gas stations and there were like three or four in Bethesda and heading out towards Rockville. So I got in the car at like 5 a.m. and started driving, but none of these places were actually open. And almost every single gas station either had like a sign over the pump saying no gas or you know those big red or yellow covers over the you know over the pumps over the handles so none of the places were there and i just kept driving i live in close you know Maryland suburb of dc and bethesta and i was just driving north out wisconsin avenue out rockville pike which you're familiar with with there where there are like 95 gas stations.

To make a long story short, I got to a gas station in Rockville that appeared to have gas, but didn't open until 6 a.m. And the only reason I thought they might have gas is there were a couple of cars already lined up at pumps. And it was... Doing what you were doing.

Yeah, it was doing what I was doing. It was like 5.40 a.m. So I get into the last pump available, and I'm just waiting there. And, you know, somebody starts walking over, they're walking around. People are starting to chat and whatever. Some dude comes over and starts talking to me and then

immediately he goes, oh man, I listen to you all the time. Listen to the podcast, listen to the radio station and his wife was in the car. Stephen Sandy, hello. You guys were very nice. We had a very nice conversation about the Washington football team. Very much miss you, very much

Ms. Zabin from the radio station. They were very loud about that. Said to me, by the way, very kindly, they said, we know that you aren't the biggest hockey guy, but what do you think about the caps tonight? Because game one of their series Cooley against Boston was Saturday night. And I just told them, I said, look, I've had a bunch of people on the show this week, and, you know, all of them think it's a really tough matchup. And, you know, they're missing some players and we'll see who plays tonight and the whole thing anyway. Sitting there and I know. I told you we'll talk about that in the Stanley Cup, but go ahead.

Yeah. Coolies, one of Coolie's first lines when we did the show together is I won't talk about, no, actually it's when you were doing the show with Galdi and Zabe. I will not talk about hockey unless they're in the Stanley Cup. Now, that was partly tongue and cheek, but you were also partly serious. Anyway, we're sitting there and then I just look at my watch. I'm like, it's 10 after 6. Nobody's here yet. and then it's 615 and then it's 620 and then I had pretty much had enough of Steve and Sandy the conversation and they were darling people lovely people but I was ready to basically say well this guy's not showing up because he doesn't have gas because he didn't I'm sure I wasn't that you'd had enough of Stephen Sandy no no no no mind you just had a lot on your mind in terms of actually acquiring the gas.

And so you couldn't talk about football and sports because at that point you're like, where's gas, where's gas, where's gas? Hey, Steve, all I want to talk about is where this gas is. So I said to Steve and Sandy, you know, I just texted a friend of mine five minutes ago and he said he was looking into something. And by the way, this was at, you know, 6 a.m., 6.05 a.m. in the morning. And I'll tell you why this friend of mine and I were texting at that early hour in the here in a second. But anyway, he got back to me and he said, hey, I got in touch with one of my guys.

He owns the station down on Connecticut Avenue in North Chevy Chase. He opens at 7. He said, you're going to have to be there early, but he's got gas. So I shared the news with Steve and Sandy. I sort of wanted to keep it just amongst the three of us, because there were other people out milling around having conversations as well. And you didn't want to ultimate race to Connecticut Avenue. I didn't want to race to Connecticut Avenue. And I wanted to make sure that, you know, that I, you know, we, we, we let the, the, uh, the people that we were conversing with have the first shot at it. So anyway, get down there. Um, Steve and Sandy didn't follow me necessarily.

I don't think they ended up there, but whatever, whatever happened to them, I at least told them about it. And got some coffee at the Starbucks next door to this station, waited for 7 a.m. At 7 a.m., I see the dude walk into the station. He's got a bunch of orange cones up all around. he starts to take the orange cones off and I pull up and he goes, hey, I'm taking the orange cones off, but we don't have gas yet. We're supposed to get it in about an hour. I'm like, oh my God, I'm not going to sit here and wait another hour.

But then he said, but right down the street, that giant, as in, you know, giant supermarket, they've got a little filling station convenience store. I think that dude just opened up and I think he's got gas. And I went down there and sure enough, there was one car in the dude. And there was some guy filling up, and then I pulled in, Cooley. I was the second one. And I filled up the tank. And I swear.

And then two cars were there. Oh, Coley. As I pulled out, there was a line going back to Connecticut Avenue already. So I got the gas. How is this going to last for it? I got gas right before this podcast. I went out, because I was on empty this morning. And I found gas readily available this morning.

So it's over. I think we're nearing the end of it. Um, so the friend of mine... What'd you pay for gas? Uh, here's the thing. Some of these stations have been really getting after you. I mean, they've been jacking the prices up. But I, I want to say that I paid, would it have been four bucks a gallon?

Oh, so that's not bad. Yeah, I think it was four bucks a gallon. I mean, it's high, but it's not like you're paying $8 a gallon because there's no gas. So before you get to your golf story from the weekend. I don't really have any golf story. The friend of mine that was texting me was my good friend, Mike, he and I the night before, the day before on Friday, had played, and I think I've told you about this before, they've got this sort of two-man tournament, which basically is like an NCAA tournament-style bracket. And trust me, they're like 80 different teams, two men, and you play two guys, and you play it, you know, spring and usually the championship is like in the fall. You know, you're...

Yeah, that's what we just... That's what I just played in that tournament. Okay. Okay. So, um... So on Friday, we're playing two guys. Uh, Timmy and Steve, great guys. Timmy Scratch.

Steve is like a 10. I'm, you know, a 15. And my partner, um, who's a really good friend of mine, is a 24. However, he's been practicing. He's been playing. And I really thought we might have a chance because I think he was, I thought he was capable of making like four or five pars, certainly three or four.

And if I could make four, you know, we'd have a legitimate chance because we were going to be popping on every hole. This was a beat down of epic proportions. We didn't make it. We made it to 13 green and that was it. It was over, six and five. But the reason it was over wasn't because of my partner, who didn't play great, but that's beside the point. on the first 12 holes, I had five birdie putts and three putted every single green. I three putted six greens.

But this is the worst part. This is the worst part. I had, of all the three putts, they were all like between two and three feet. Oh, my God. I don't think I had the yips. because I don't think I've ever gotten the yips. Now, keep in mind, you know our course and you know how fast, and I think they're rolling at like 13, 13 and a half, something like that.

It was super quick. One of them was uphill, though. One of them was like a three and a half foot or four foot or uphill that I missed. That was the easy one. The other ones, even if they were two to three feet, were downhill and slippery. But on at least three of them, I didn't even catch the hole. Like it wasn't even close. Honestly, I don't know that I've ever been more embarrassed

and felt like I let somebody down more than my partner that day because if I had made half of them were in the match. Despite this guy, Timmy, who's scratch, he shot 69 or 70 because we ended up playing the whole round because we're having a great time and we just started pounding beers and by the end, it was a nice, it was Friday, it was gorgeous, the whole. thing. We got our ass kicked. We're not good golfers. We understand that. But with all the strokes we were getting, we thought we had a chance. And if I had made a couple of those,

we would have had a chance. So, flip the script. So my buddy Mike says, just get it out of your mind. I'm like, I don't know that it's really in my mind. Like, am I sitting there? Are my knees knocking? Am I shaking? And I don't think I am. I just think I'm a terrible putter. And I'm just missing these, but I must have choked. It must have been, I think the last one that I missed, which was on 12, I had, I was just off the green with a putter putting for birdie. And I rifled that thing by by about eight feet. All right?

And then the next put was left short three feet, and I had to make it for, for, I had to make that one for 6-5 to have the hole. And I think that's the one I did make. No, no, no. I made that one for 6-5, but then the dude, you know, he had birdie. So it was a loser. But I don't think, like, I needed to make that before his birdie putt, and I don't, I don't know.

I choked. Major choke. How do I fix that as a putter? I went out yesterday. I made a bunch of puck. work on your speed. You know, the work... You go work on your distance and your speed with some of your puts, so you don't have to worry

about it so much. Your greens are hard. Yeah, they're hard, and above the hole is death, and most of the ones I missed with the exceptional one were definitely above the hole. But they weren't four-footers above the hole, Chris. They were two and a half, three-footers above the hole. There's that par three that you've got to walk over. the bridge.

Yeah. Like 14. Uh, yeah. 16. 16. Yeah. Last time we played there,

I had a two footer above the hole. Yeah. I hit a great shot and I had a two footer above the hole. I touched it. And then I had a nine footer coming back. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you almost,

we were all looking at it and said, if we don't, if I don't make this put into the hole, it, there's no stopping. So my partner, Mike, and my good friend Michael, says he's putting his clubs up on eBay, and he's done golfing. He's been practicing a lot? Yeah, we've practiced a couple of times, short game stuff.

He's got one ass kick him and he quits. Yeah, and I got back out yesterday and played, and it wasn't pretty, but I, you know, it's really now regressed. I can't, I think I'm now at the point where I'm going to take a lesson. I'm going to take a lesson. But I don't know that I ever learn anything from the lessons. Did you play this really, it is really funny how similar our weekends went. We played in the same exact match play type of tournament.

We actually won on Saturday. Now, keep in mind, I'm still pretty sore. Yeah. My knees still pretty hurt. The swing doesn't really hurt that much. But walking around, and I can't, I started doing this thing where my right, leg, if I pushed off my back foot, my right leg would swing all the way in front of my left

foot on the swing. Like my hips would come all the way through. I would step all the way through with my back foot in front of my right, in front of my left foot. It wasn't on purpose. I wasn't even trying to. Just my body was trying to take weight off my left leg as soon as possible. Now, it's not swollen. It never hurt.

So we went on Saturday, and then we did the same thing. We played on Sunday. We played against Dick Fisher and West Hernandez. Dick Fisher and West Hernandez. And West is stretch and Dick's probably a 10. And Dick's 10 at a course that he plays every day of his life. So it's a 10 that's not really a 10. It's a 10 that's like a five or four.

You know, the small course. Yeah. They played, well, we were down seven at the turn. And I missed two, I missed two puts. I missed a two foot birdie putt on one. on. Nope, not even. I hit the hole. It went in and out. I'm like, what is this? And I missed another put that hit the hole. But here's my, here's my interesting complaint. Because I've been, last year, in the last couple of years, I've been playing a lot of the courses, the Maryland-Virginia

courses where the slope rating's a lot higher. Right. So if I shoot 79 a few times and I mixed in like one or two 77s at lands down, I'm sitting out like a 5-1 handicap. Index. But then, but then we transfer that to our Wyoming course and the distance we were playing. I'm playing at like a three. So against the scratch golfer who plays there every day,

I'm popping twice. Well, so... Dick's popping on me five other times and I'm sitting there saying there should be an injury rating to your handicap because I haven't even swung, this is the first time I've swung a club all year.

No. And I can't, and I can't even really I don't have my normal swing. I'm playing limited golf. Well, there's no, there's no accommodation for that. I realize that there's not. Other than I'm going to record, you know what's amazing, though? I shot, I had two, out of both days, I shot a 38 on the front nine the first day, and I shot a 39 on the back nine the second day.

Like, I'd still played two rounds under 40. It was just the other two weren't very good. I shot in 82 yesterday on an easy course. I'm looking up your, your, is your handicap in Virginia or Wyoming now? It's now in Wyoming. Oh, okay. Let me look it up. I want to see what you, because you talked about your, your 5-1 is your index.

And then on that course, with the slope rating, you were playing at a 3. Something like that. Well, I was only getting like. Yeah, they'll adjust it. Okay, you are a 5-3. So right now in this system, I see you as a 5-3. And so I was playing at no more than a 4 on the course I was at, probably a 3 because we played from the 1-T up too. Yeah.

Yeah, you're playing on a course with a slope rating that was 119. You know, you played and I'm looking to see, it doesn't say the course rating here, but I can tell you, I can see. Did you play my course? last year or not? I think so, but if I might not have recorded yours. Anyway, so all I'm saying is,

I mean, and I'm not complaining. It's, we've played with two groups of guys that are awesome dudes. Like, we had a blast doing it. You know,

it's not so competitive. It's, you're out having fun. We'll still go through like a loser's bracket, apparently. This is cool. I'm excited to kind of be a member of a course. Membership's super costly.

It's a thing. About $1,000 a year, so we've got to pay that. No dues. No, it might have been even $1,400 for the family. How nice is that? No dues whatsoever. And is it the nicest place? Is it the nicest place there?

No. Most of the courses are similar. It's, it's, yeah. The code, there's a course in Cody, Wyoming that's pretty nice. And there's course in Powell that's pretty nice. And then. Is it all of playing? Olive Glens and Cody Wyoming

and the Powell course is the Powell Golf and Country Club. Got it. And yeah, it's golf, man. I don't know. There's nothing right. It's an interesting course, though, this course I'm at in the town I'm in. And Powell, they put a new front nine in about 20 years ago, which they call like the desert nine.

So you play this a little bit longer and you're out the sides of the fairways and stuff. It's all straight sagebrush. And you hit it out and you're hitting out of like a sagebrush brush. a lot of the time. But then the back nine is like old school tree line to everything. Wow. So it's like two different courses. Two distinctly different courses.

That's kind of cool. It is and sometimes it isn't it is because you get used to your front nine and then you got to adapt completely to the back back. Anyway, that's, it's just, it's funny that you don't have a, you know, a pro is a scratch. there I'll scratch. They don't play in any of the professional tournaments. There's no handicap rule. The handicap rules for the amateur golfer. But I'm telling you right now, like, it's going to take me a month before I'm,

have whatever swing I had last year where I was shooting the 70s almost every now. So, anyway. Overall, I mean, you won your first match. You lost your second. I mean, you're down seven at the turn. We actually, we were down seven at the turn. We got it back to three on the back. I shot a 39 on the bottom.

back. Oh, that's good. A couple birdies. We got it back on the back. But I mean, when you're down seven at the turn, it's over. Of course. But you might as well keep playing anyway. Yeah.

I'm looking at your closing hole. Your place has video of all of your holes. Beautiful. Shot by a drone clearly. Hey, Kooley, does the ball at the elevation, what's your elevation in, pal? Like, what is it? 4,400, something like that. Codes 5,000.

So the ball really flies, right? Yeah, and there's no huge. humidity. So that's actually been a really interesting adjustment is when I'm hitting the ball really pretty well in Virginia. Well, it's at least a 10% difference per club. 17 looks like a monster par three. 17 is not that tough. It's 170 yard part 3. If you're playing from the tips, if you're playing from the tips, it's deep. And you've got to hit it over a little pond. Yeah, a little pond there.

No, it's a fun course. When you come out here, because you're going to one of these days, you'll love playing it. It's a really enjoyable round of golf. The thing I love about here is you can actually play bad and still score a little bit. I think you're not going to score, but you can play bad and not shoot a 90. Yeah. As long as you keep moving the ball, a lot of times you'll hit a ball, you can duff a ball and it's going to roll 160 yards. That's course is dry.

Yeah. What are you doing later today? All right. Well, that sounds like a good weekend. and I'm glad you're back on your feet. I'm assuming you were riding, right? You had to. Yeah.

You got that accommodation. Yeah, everyone's riding. Yeah. Do you have any interest in sticking around it to hear about the Wizards and the Caps weekend? I would love to. I have physical therapy at 945 today. I did just want to mention that I got caught up last night watching Duke and Clemson. and this girl Valerie Kegel, she's freaking amazing, true freshman.

I thought she was hurt. No, no. She has a chance to be a player of the year. But I will tell you this, like in a zero zero ball game, she really, they were just trying to walk her. And she's overextending to swing at pitches she didn't need to. You know, she did this really crazy thing, too. She hit a ball on the end of the bat. It broke the bat at the handle.

The bat came around broken and hit her in the back of the neck. And she's tough enough that she went back out and pitched. Damn, right. I mean, I think she had like 13 strikeouts in the game. She might have. Yeah. I didn't count strikeouts or K's, but she's sweet. I'll tell you what.

Cammy Pereira honestly was, I don't think she was the best defensive second baseman last year, but my God, has she gotten better? She really is a good defensive infielder, really happy for her development. On the other side, I mean, Christina Foreman, you know, just not what she used to be. And Kelly Torr is the catcher for Duke really came through with a big hit. And obviously, you know, the RBI came from Miss Jackson, the left fielder. Well, the RBI is a dink single. You know, the Duke got really fortunate because they had one dink single to start it off that started foul and spun back into play. You got to knock that ball foul. You're the first baseman coming down that line.

You got to knock the foul. Starts ball. You got to knock that ball foul. And then they kind of move around and they get a dink single. And they won it 1-0 and the ACC championship. It's, I actually did watch this game on. I can tell. And I just pulled.

Here's what happened to me last night, though, that you like. So for anybody that Listen that doesn't listen a lot We played this flim flam with women softball Well we did it with a couple of women sports Yeah So it's sort of inside if you haven't listened to the podcast It's very inside

There's I fell asleep at the end of the game last night And I woke up at like five in the morning And there's it's the women's Tournaments coming up The NCAA tournament So there's this podcast slash ESPN show called Seventh inning or seven innings. And it's three chicks. And they are just rattling through names of girls on every team.

And you listen to it? I woke up half asleep. And in about two minutes, I was laughing so hard because I was just thinking about all the times. We did that. It sounds the exact same as the way we did it. Except they know what they're talking about. They actually know the names. I actually have a real sort of other sport story.

So Maryland, the Maryland men are undefeated in lacrosse. They are, according to many, they had a regular season that many people were saying they may be the best men's college lacrosse team in history. And yet they got royally screwed with the seating. They were seated third behind Duke in North Carolina. In part because I guess the Big Ten isn't nearly as strong as the ACC and lacrosse. Their schedule wasn't what Duke and Carolina played. That aside, they beat Vermont yesterday in a round of 16 game. And now as the...

Did you see the dude backhand bounce it in behind his back? I didn't. I actually... I watched a lot of sports in her yesterday. They had a couple highlight plays, Maryland did. They are fun to watch. Their best player is this guy, Jared Bernhardt. he's Maryland's all-time record holder in points, goals, single-season goals.

He was the Big Ten player of the year this year, first team all big ten. I mean, he's going to, you know, first team all-American. He's average is four and a half goals a game. Yeah, he's amazing. So anyway, the reason I bring his name up, first of all, Maryland has to play at Notre Dame next week in the round of eight in the quarterfinals. As the three-seed, they've got to play on the road because that's where the round of eight games are, I guess for their region or whatever in South Bend.

So they really got, you know, it's screwed from a seating standard. I know. You take the crap out of the game for him. But anyway, I didn't know this, but my youngest son really follows lacrosse because some of his best friends are Division I lacrosse players. And he said that this guy, Bernhardt, he starts telling me about this guy yesterday because the game was on and it was in the house. And he said, this guy, Bernhardt was a triple option high.

school quarterback in Florida at St. Aquinas, which produces so many great college football players, a lot of players that have gone on to the University of Miami or Florida or Florida State. Anyway, as a triple-option quarterback, in two back-to-back seasons, he went for 2,000 rushing yards and 15 touchdowns. The two seasons were a combined 4,000 plus rushing yards as a triple option quarterback, 30 touchdowns, and he had the option of playing at Navy. Navy wanted him badly as a quarterback. We're playing lacrosse at Maryland, and he chose lacrosse at Maryland. So there you go. By the way, Bernhardt's first name is Jerry. Bernard. And his

he's got a brother I think it's a brother who is currently one of the assistant coaches at Vermont yesterday. And they were drawing, they were drawing back and forth and the head coach John Tillman had to tell the referee, hey, they're brothers.

So don't, you know, hit us with a flag or whatever they've thrown lacrosse. Does your sister-in-law, she's graduated from Jacksonville, right? Yeah. Because they, I know, they're, they're a real power in women's lacrosse. They're always a top 20.

Go, buddy. Go terms. Have fun talking about the Wizards. And I will talk to you later this week. I will get to the Wizards and Caps right after this word from one of our sponsors. Here's Wilson, drifting in, Oshi from out high with a shot he's goal. DJ O'Shee and the Caps take game one. And there was about four minutes, 41 seconds. into overtime. The Caps beat the Bruins in game one, three to two on the strength of Nick Dowd's

redirect off that really good shot by T.J. O'Shee off a really good pass from Tom Wilson, and the Caps have a 1-0 series lead with Game 2 set for tonight. Look, this is, I'm not a hockey guy, as most of you know, but I like watching postseason hockey. And this was as physical a game one as you will see. I mean, these teams were after it. I had Joe Beninati on the radio show this morning. He said, expect that throughout the postseason because of all of the matchups this year, the scheduling oddity of playing the same teams over and over in your division. This was their ninth game against the Bruins this year. The Ovechkin hit to start the game that was just a massive hit on Crache for Boston. Really set the tone.

Ovechkin looked totally healthy despite, you know, missing seven of the last nine games of the regular season coming in. He got the ice time in the regular season finale against Boston last week. He finished with four shots, drew a penalty on a brutal hit on him, had an assist, had a really strong screen of Rask, the goalie for Boston on Brendan Dillon's goal in the second period. Ovechkin really with a big-time game. Remember, they're down Kuznets off, they're down Sampsonoff, and there you had Vanichek in his first ever playoff opportunity, and he gets hurt early. And Craig Anderson, 39-year-old Craig Anderson, comes in and plays really, really well in that situation. He became the oldest goalie to earn a playoff victory for the Capitol's fourth oldest goaltender in league history to earn a playoff win in relief.

And they got the win over the Bruins. Now, a lot of people expect this to be a very long series. A lot of people think the Bruins are just too explosive offensively. Pretty much a lot of the night you saw the Lars Eller line matched up against that perfection line of Marchand, Bergeron, et cetera. and they did a really nice job there. I thought, by the way, in watching it on TV, that the 25% capacity, which put it at, I think, 5,300-plus fans,

I thought you could really hear it. I thought they made a big difference in the game. I could be wrong if you were there, and maybe we had some sound piped in. I don't know, but it was an intense game and a big win for the cap, so they get game two tonight against the Bruins. And we'll wait to hear the news on, you know, on Vtec, and we'll wait to hear, you know, any sort of Kuznetsov or Samsonoff news.

Oshy, you know, was iffy coming into this game. He played well. Two, you know, intense teams for a game one. Really interesting, you know, over the weekend in the NHL playoffs, and this is not unusual. We talk about this all the time. So on Saturday night, the Caps were the one playoff game. That went to overtime, three-two final. And then yesterday in all the playoff games, you had a four three overtime game Islanders over the Penguins. The Islanders are the lower-seeded team. The Penguins, the higher-seeded team. Out West, you know, Vegas is one of the favorites to win the whole thing. Zero-zero-zero regulation. They lose an overtime, one-nothing to Minnesota.

The Lightning are seated lower than the Panthers. They get a five-four game one win. So the four playoff games so far have all been one goal games. Three of the four went to overtime. And three of the four, the home team, the higher-seated team was beaten. The only higher-seated team to win in the first four games, your Washington Capitals. Tonight you get three more games, including two more series. The Preds and the Hurricanes opening up St. Louis and Colorado doing the same Colorado, one of the favorites to win the whole thing as well.

Interestingly, if you want to talk about odds and stuff going into this series, it was pretty much a toss-up. Boston's the favorite tonight in game two. They're a slight minus 135 favorite to even up the series tonight in game two. Lastly, the Wizards beat the Hornets yesterday, 115, 110. I watched this game start to finish. I will tell you right now, I bet the Hornets. I bought a half point, played them plus seven.

I thought that the Hornets were a bad matchup for the Wizards. They needed the game too. The winner of this game was going to be the eight seed and have a double elimination situation in this play-in. The loser was going to be the 10-seed and was in single elimination mode. The Hornets had already clobbered the Wizards twice this year. I just thought that the way they play, they play a lot of zone. The Wizards play, and I think they lead the league in isolation play.

And I think that's one of the reasons they've had some issues with Charlotte. And Charlotte was pretty much in control, much of the way. I thought the Wizards looked really sloppy, played a horrible first period. That first quarter, there's nothing other than Daniel Gafford in that first quarter that was positive. They were sloppy with the basketball. They took poor shots. And the real story of the game yesterday was Bradley Beale. I mean, Bradley Beale looked terrible.

and, you know, coming back for his first game off the soft tissue hamstring injury, he, to me, was either playing possum, which maybe the coaches knew or he needed to be pulled. I asked Scott Brooks about that this morning, and he said they thought he was going to be a slow starter, and it was going to take a while to get used to. They never really thought that they were putting him in any jeopardy. And that tells me to a certain extent that they know Bradley, and maybe there's a little bit of drama in Bradley. and I think we saw some of that for the first half, but man, was he good in the fourth quarter? He was outstanding in the fourth quarter, but the spark in the comeback win over Charlotte was Ish Smith.

He had an incredible steel of Zeller. Then on the other end, you know, broke down the defense. That led to a wide open look for Beale. Isch Smith ended up going for 14 points, eight rebounds, and seven assists in 32 minutes. He was seven of 11 from the floor. Westbrook got to the line, made a lot of free throws. I did not think it was a great game from Westbrook, who finished with 23, 15, and 10. Had some sloppy turnovers, had a couple of real bad decisions

offensively. And I thought Robin Lopez was excellent. Man, I love watching Robin Lopez play. Now, Gafford is a guy that I think has to play more. He didn't yesterday. When I had Scott Brooks on the show, Brooks said, you know, we rode Lopez because we really thought he was a difficult matchup. They go small, and Lopez is a true low post center. And if you've watched him play, he's got this, you know, odd-looking jump hook. It's sort of a mix between a hook shot and a jump hook. And he never seems to miss it. He was 9 of 11, had 18 points, six rebounds, a steal, an assist in 27 minutes.

He was outstanding, and the Wizards came back in one. good for them. I will just leave you with this one thought. They play Boston tomorrow night in the 7-8 game as the play-in. If they win, they're the 7-8 seed, they play Brooklyn. They are a 1.5-point underdog, at least they were earlier this morning to Boston. Boston's lost four or five in a row, no Jalen Brown. They are reeling coming in. The Wizards need to win tomorrow night. If they lose, they will have another opportunity on 3,000. Thursday night to play the winner of the Charlotte Indiana game. I want him to win tomorrow night because I think if Charlotte beats Indiana, I think it's a tough matchup for the Wizards and a one and done against a Charlotte team that's got talent, athleticism, you know, I think maybe some better decision makers, you know, even La Mello Ball, who's a rookie. I think he at times really has super high IQ ability with the basketball in his hands. at least in the games that I've watched this year.

Yesterday, Lamello was 19, five assists, just one turnover. Rozier can really shoot it. They can really spread you. I think it's a tough matchup. And I would be surprised if the Wizards get to that game, even though it would be at Capital One Arena on Thursday night, I think they'd be a short favorite in that game. And I think the Charlotte Hornets would have a chance to win the game.

Look, maybe Indiana gets them tomorrow night. But I think the real opportunity is taking it. advantage of the momentum they have created here over the last, you know, month and a half, down 15 games. They played great basketball. They end up 34 and 38. If they had Biel last week for the two Atlanta games, they might be on a six-game winning streak coming in. I mean, if you go back to the beginning of this run for them, when they were 15 games below 500, if you go back to when did they uh yeah here it is um it's it all started basically uh at 17 and 32 and since that moment um they went 17 uh and six the rest of the way and the six losses five of the six losses

were essentially all at the end of the game and two of those losses were without bradley beale so they could have been even better they played great i don't know how much their style of play will work in a game that slows down a little bit. They play a lot of ISO ball. Charlotte plays a lot of zone, and we'll see. I'd love to see a matchup, though, against Brooklyn. I don't think they'd beat Brooklyn in the first round, but I think they could win a game or two. And if they ended up being the eight and played Philadelphia, that would be tough too. I mean, I don't see the Wizards winning a first round series, but I'd like to see it anyway. I'd like to see them push one of these top two seeds in the east to, you know, a lengthy series. Maybe, you know, you maybe get to two, two or

two, and, you know, you're right there with a shot. But really, really impressive ish Smith, Robin Lopez, and Bradley Beale specifically in the fourth quarter. All right, I think that's it for the day. I don't think I have anything else. Actually, two more things to finish up the show. almost forgot. Number one, credit to Eddie C. who was on this show on Friday, Eddie C gave you Ron Bauer and Midnight Bourbon. That's how it finished one, too. He will definitely be back on with us prior to the Belmont. Eddie C. in Florida, a friend to many in this city, he got it right. And I was at a Preakness party Saturday night, and everybody was talking about Eddie C's picks. So Eddie C's

congrats, great job. And I definitely want you back on this show prior to the Belmont to get your picks for that one. The other thing that I wanted to end the show with was this weekend was the Hall of Fame Inductions for the Basketball Hall of Fame. Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett and others. Mike Wilbon went into the Hall of Fame. Congrats to Mike. But they also announced the class upcoming for 2021.

This was the 2020 class that went in over the weekend. The 2021 class includes, by the way, several former wizard slash bullets, even if they were here for, you know, a brief period of time. Paul Pierce is going into the Hall of Fame. Ben Wallace is going into the Hall of Fame. Chris Weber is going into the Hall of Fame. But Bobby Dandrich is going into the Hall of Fame. Finally, Bobby Dandrich deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Bobby Dandrich had quite a career in the NBA, but more importantly, first of the first, us here in Washington. Bobby Dandrich is the reason Washington has a professional basketball championship

banner. Their only one which came in 1978. Dandrich was a six-foot-six inch small forward who could play two-guard and the NBA was a part of the Milwaukee Bucks drafted by the Bucks out of Norfolk State. So he was from this general area to begin with. Played in the 1971 NBA finals with Lou Sinder before he became Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Oscar Robertson and won a title with Milwaukee as a very young player in 1971. Came to Washington in 1977, 1977, 78, and he was the missing piece for Wes Unseld and Elvin Hayes, who had tried and had banged their heads up against the NBA finals and the NBA playoffs year after year after year and had not brought home or brought Washington a title

yet. Bobby D. got here, and they won it in 1978, and he was outstanding as a player. First of all, in his first season in Washington, he averaged 19.3 points per game, six rebounds a game, you know, a steel and a half. He was an excellent defender. More than that, he was a super clutch player, a super clutch player. In the postseason for Washington, in 77, 78, and the 78 playoffs, he averaged 21.2 points per game, 1.6 steals, nearly seven rebounds and nearly four assists. And they went to the NBA finals. They beat Seattle in a seventh and deciding game, and he was huge. In the 79 playoffs, he averaged 23.1 points per game, seven and a half rebounds, five and a half assists, as Washington went back to the NBA finals before losing in the NBA finals to Seattle.

Now the first year he was here, Bobby D. came up with clutch games. I mean, big-time clutch games. And their first NBA finals in that two-year stretch with Seattle, he had a game two that they won where he went for 34. And in game seven, with Elvin Hayes in foul trouble, 19 points, six rebounds, three assists in a 105-1007th in deciding game. win at Seattle to win their loan title. But his most famous game was in the seventh and deciding game of the Eastern Conference Finals in 1979. The bullets were the reigning world champions. They had beaten Atlanta in a best of seven in a seventh and deciding game where Dandrich had 29 points, 10 rebounds. Elvin Hayes was phenomenal in that particular game. The biggie, maybe the best overall game he's ever had in the postseason, 39 points, 15 rebounds, and I think it was six block shots.

I'd have to look that up to be sure about that. And they beat Atlanta in a seventh and deciding game. But then in the Eastern Conference finals in 1979 is the defending NBA champions. They played the San Antonio Spurs. The Spurs were in the Eastern Conference then. And Bobby Dandrich in that seventh and deciding game, after, by the way, the bullets were down three games to one. And they came back. They won game five at home. They won game six in San Antonio to force a seventh in deciding game. And that seventh in deciding game, Dandrich went for 37 points, nine rebounds. 16 to 31 from the floor, no three-pointer in 1979 people, played 45 of the 53 minutes in the game,

because the game went to overtime. But this is one of those things that I'll never, ever forget about. that game. At the end of the game, score tied at 105-105.105. Actually, there was something that happened before. Spurs fans will tell you before they won all those titles with Duncan and Robinson and Pop and Genobley and Parker and everybody. The closest they ever got was this seventh and deciding game against the bullets to the NBA finals, and they feel like they were robbed in the game. The officiating was horrible. The lights went out for a 10-minute delay when they had a 10-point lead in the fourth quarter and just it went all wrong for San Antonio down the stretch. Anyway, with the score

tied and the bullets having possession of the ball with about 15 seconds to go, the famous story, which was told on the Dan Patrick NBA classics show where they do an NBA classic game. In this particular show, they had George Gervin who had 42 in that seventh and deciding game. Bobby D. had 37, and they had Dandrich on the show. And basically, for about the first minute and a half of the timeout, there's nothing said by any of the coaches to the players in the huddle. 15 seconds to go tie games, game seven, Eastern Conference Finals. And then as the horn sounded, Dick Mata, who was the coach,

got into the huddle and said, throw the ball into Bobby, Bobby, go win it for us. That was the play. They threw it into Dandritch. He had a favorite spot, which was about 12 to 15 feet on the baseline. He got to that spot, knocked down the shot, with about six seconds to go. They took the lead.

Elvin Hayes had a block shot on the other end, and Washington won the game 107 to 105 to advance to the NBA finals for a second straight year and have a chance to defend their title. That was the best playoff game of Dandritch's career. He was a clutch player. He was a clutch defender, and he deserves the honor of being inducted into the Hall of Fame. Congratulations to them.

By the way, they went on in law. the finals to Seattle that year, four games to one. But Dandrich was sensational in those finals. Average, I think, 20 a game in those NBA finals. All right, that's it for today. Back tomorrow with Tommy.