The Kevin Sheehan Show - Sack Talk

Episode Date: October 26, 2023

Kevin and Thom today with some Commanders' sack talk to start. Plenty on Ron's comments yesterday on potential O-line changes and the trade deadline. Thom made his Washington-Philly prediction along w...ith a World Series pick too.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheon Show. Here's Kevin. Tommy's here. I am here. The show is presented by, as always,
Starting point is 00:00:15 Window Nation. Call them at 86690 Nation. Or go towindonation.com if you need new windows. Tommy's prediction on Washington, Philadelphia. Coming up, we'll do some, you heard it here first. We'll get a prediction from Tommy on the World Series. which starts tomorrow night as well. The Wizards opened up their season last night.
Starting point is 00:00:39 They gave up 143 points to the Indiana Pacers last night. Did you watch any of it? I'm assuming you know. Oh, Kevin? Yeah. Kevin? Like an idiot, I watched the whole thing. You know?
Starting point is 00:00:56 I said to you know, and I said to myself, Jesus is still the friggin' NBA. And it's still the frigging wizards. Oh, my God. But this is what they're going to be this year, Tommy. They're not, you know, they're not trying to win a lot of games. I mean, the players are and the coaches are. But the, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Okay. I know that. The players are the coaches are. They added, West Unseld is not an NBA head coach. Okay, let's make that clear. Okay. Yeah. And in order to help him,
Starting point is 00:01:32 they added two extra assistant coaches to his staff. Right, right. Okay, like Tom Tibado in New York, he has four assistant coaches. Yeah. Wes Unseld had six. Okay. Is that true? That's true.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I didn't realize that. Yes. Yeah, I know. And at one point late in the game, according to the sideline reporter, God bless her, I don't remember her name. Megan. Megan. Wes is telling his players, there's still something to play for. Don't, you know, don't stop playing.
Starting point is 00:02:08 It's the first game of the season. And he's pleading with them to play. Can I just tell you that early in the game watching the first quarter? I almost, and I'm so glad I didn't because it would not have aged well. I almost tweeted out, the Wizards could have easily scored 50 in the first season. quarter. They scored 39, but man, they are going to be a difficult team at times to guard this year, which actually may be true. That may be true. They'll put up some points. Because they can
Starting point is 00:02:45 really, yeah. Good Jordan Cole can play better than that. Oh, I think. I thought he was awful last night. I thought he was terrible last night. Yeah, he can play better than that. So he can, they can score some points. Kuzma's the guy that I really think continues to grow as a player. And, and, you can play better. And, And there are a couple of things real quickly. I promise you, people, don't turn yet. Okay? We're going to get away from this. Sack talk coming up.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Who's at fault for all of the sacks? That's coming up. But I really do like Kyle Kuzma as a player. I think he continues to grow as a player. I like him too. I think Avedia continues to grow as a player. Poole was disappointing last. night. Kisbert was really disappointing. My God, he's supposed to be a drop dead, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:37 feet set three-point shooter. There were a couple of them that didn't even hit the rim. Here's the thing that drives me nuts in watching the Wizards. And it's driven me nuts now for years over several coaches, or a couple of coaches, anyway, going back to Randy Whitman, who actually knew what he was doing as a head coach. They just don't run very, forget the defense. That's tragic. They don't run any real half-court offense. And I understand a lot of NBA teams don't, but if they're not in transition, if they're not getting something early and they have to face a set defense, they just look very disorganized to me. It may be because it's the first game and there are players that are playing that haven't played with each other. You know,
Starting point is 00:04:28 Tyos Jones is actually a good player. Um, you know, know, and is a good point guard and as a guy that doesn't turn it over a lot. He's had one of the highest assist to turnover ratios in the NBA for a few years now. But this is going to be a long year. And as far as the Kula Bali kid, I, you know, I couldn't tell from one game. Yeah. Yeah, it's his first NBA game. A few things because I watched him closely. Yeah. And they brought them in early. Pretty early in the game. Yeah, they did. And I don't know what his final minute total was. If we're really going for the future here, just start him and let him play a lot of minutes every night. I think they could, too, because he played like a 19-year-old kid playing in his first NBA game.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah. I mean, he seemed lost. He seemed timid. Not the kind of kid I heard about. You know, when the ball would go up, he would take off, okay, where they needed him under the basket to go chase the ball. You know, I'm watching it with my wife, who I don't know why she was watching it with me. And I said to her, because I've got talking anybody else, I said, if you don't know what to do, there's always one thing you can do. And that's go get the ball.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Go get the ball. Well, that's more football on defense, but I hear you. Yeah. But go to the board. Yeah. I mean, he's got some height. You know, supposedly he's a good grade. And I think he had, I don't forget, I saw him think a three-pointer.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I saw him grab a couple rebounds. But at one point, when they're running down the court on defense, he's hopping down fixing a sneaker. Yeah. You know? But that's the first game. You know, I'm not down on him. But this team, it's the same team from last year
Starting point is 00:06:14 with two more assistant coaches on it in terms of defense. Yeah. Meantime, Porzingis was outstanding for the Celtics last night. And his debut, he was. But he played so well last year here. I mean, if he is healthy for a season, he's one of the best players in the league. I mean, he's not a top five player. He's not a top 10 player, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:06:37 He's probably a top 15 player in the league when he's healthy. I watched some of Wembeñana last night because that game was on ESPN following the Celtics' Knicks game. And, you know, again, one game, I mean, you can see the impact that he can have for sure. I mean, the dude is just big and long. I mean, certainly long, and he's skilled. But it's going to take them all. Look, the NBA, Tommy, is an old person's league. Veteran teams with veteran players are the ones standing in May and June.
Starting point is 00:07:15 It's not a – they draft young players. The draft is a young person's game. The actual games are for veterans. You know, men. And eventually these young players will become men physically and otherwise. But it's, you know, people get so, you know, into the NBA draft. And then, you know, first night last night. Like ESPN did a whole segment on the top five picks.
Starting point is 00:07:42 None of these guys are going to impact winning for another five years. Minimum. Anyway, so I was looking at something before the show started. I wanted to see where the Eagles ranked in Sacks coming into the game. Because, you know, last week they played the team that was dead last in Sacks, and they had six of them, the Giants. The week before that, they played the Falcons who were way down near the bottom of the league in Sacks. They had five.
Starting point is 00:08:18 The week before that, they played the bears who were dead last in sacks, and they more than doubled their season total. And so the Eagles in sack totals for teams this year, remember, some teams have played six games, and they've played seven. They are fourth in the league, or tied for third in the league at 24 with the dolphins. The Ravens are one, the Bills are two. Of course, the Bills had nine in one game. That was against Washington, too. So, 24 sacks in seven games, all right, basically three and a half sacks per game. So my question to you, roughly, over or under for Philly Sunday against Washington for sacks?
Starting point is 00:09:05 Oh, I think the over under is five. At least what the Giants got. I know. Well, the over under would be put at five or five and a half, no doubt. They're average, they're going to, will they do what everybody else has done, which is just what did they have against us in the opener in the first game? I think they had five against us in the first game. Yeah, they had five. Yeah. Yeah, Sam was sacked five times in the first one. Yeah, the over under is five and a half. The over under is five and a half. I'd go over. Yeah. I'd go over. And if it goes over again, I'm really going to be, I don't, I'm not even going to be angry anymore. I've had a, so that's your prediction over too, right?
Starting point is 00:09:46 Yeah. Because wasn't My You Heard It Here first last week That Sam How would be sacked three or less times I think it was Against the Giants Like they were going to make a lot of progress with sacks But they didn't I don't remember exactly what that was
Starting point is 00:10:03 Yeah because you don't listen to my you heard it here first And then I'm looking for something at the same time I can tell That it's relevant to this discussion Okay Did you find it? Before the season started
Starting point is 00:10:15 And this wasn't rocket science but I said that teams were going to come after the quarterback all year because they can't protect him. And it was, where is it? Always looking for something to prove that you had said something early on where you're right. Carlos Watkins in the first game after the Cardinals game, quote, I mean, he basically gave the playbook for the rest of the year. He said, you know, we knew Sam Howell's a mobile quarterback. We wanted to contain him and keep him in the pocket. He also likes to hold the ball, so it's our job to get to him and make him uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Our whole role up front is to disrupt the quarterback off his spot. I feel we did like a decent job of that today. So they knew going into the game what their mission was for this particular guy. and that hasn't changed since week one. Right. It hasn't changed and it's not going to change Sunday. I think it is incumbent upon the offensive coordinator and the players to come up with a different plan. The plan I thought against Philadelphia in Philly and against the Falcons and even at times against Chicago.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I thought was a decent plan. I thought that the Buffalo game was the last time we were going to see consistent dropbacks. Now, the dropbacks were different, as we talked about earlier in the week on Sunday. They included more, you know, extra man protection. And then when they got to the second half more, you know, in that max protection, you know, category. I just think at this point, like the emphasis or the obsession with, whose fault is it on the Sacks, O-Line, Sam, coordinator? What we've seen is that the drop-back, the pure drop-back game for this team is not viable right now.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And so what I'd like to see is a completely different approach. I don't care about pass-run ratio. I don't care that Eric B. Enemy wants to throw it three to one, you know, pass-to-one. In fact, they're not a good run-blocking offensive line either. No, they're not. Or else they'd be running the ball, too. Well, I don't know about that. I think that this guy wants to be heavy pass-to-run ratio,
Starting point is 00:12:57 and he's, you know, he is instilling a philosophy that he has, you know, as part of the development of a young quarterback and the development of himself as a coordinator. But I've just, there's been so much talk this week about, well, Sunday, finally, it was the O'Line's fault. You know, Sam didn't, well, you don't know that, people. You don't know that. You know that the pressures were quicker, but you don't know that Sam wasn't responsible for handling protection pre-snap in a different way.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Because it's my guess that some of those quick pressures were due to Sam moving the line in the wrong direction, handling protection poorly pre-snap. That's part of the job. He's learning. I'm not killing him for it. I'm just saying at this point, it really doesn't matter about O-line, Sam, Sam's protection calls, Sam holding on to it too long. The offensive coordinator has to minimize the opportunity for the other team, whether the offensive line's a problem, whether protections,
Starting point is 00:14:14 have been miscalled, whether the quarterback's going to hold on to it too long. It's the offensive coordinator's job Sunday against Philadelphia to minimize the number of times that we have to evaluate why the sack happened. By getting the ball out of his hands immediately, screens, dashes, sprintouts. By the way, all kinds of screens, bubbles, traditional screens, more runs would be helpful because you can't get sacked when you run the football. But I don't want runs for runs sake because runs that don't gain yardage aren't helping you move the football. Understood.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I want lots of the, he hits that third step, the ball's out quickly. I want some, you know, more boot, more what they call QB keeper. I don't want five and seven step drop. Certainly not with five-man protection, not even with six-man protection, and even their max protects, don't work that well. If that's the offense that Eric B. Enemy is going to stubbornly, and I say the kind of offense, because it's not the kind of offense, if he wants that to be a big part of his offense,
Starting point is 00:15:35 and he's going to be stubborn about it, we're going to continue to see a lot of these sacks. there should be a way. And I know not every sack has happened on pure dropback. And there was a sack or two on some of the quick stuff. But you've got to minimize the number of times that we're talking about these sacks and that the quarterback's getting sacked and getting hit. Got to design, which he's done.
Starting point is 00:16:01 He's done a couple of times a pass offense that gets the ball out and out quickly. And if he can't do that or if he's, too stubborn to do that or he doesn't see that that's the way it needs to work, then we're going to continue to have more conversations about him in the future. But I would like to see that on Sunday. I think there's what they did in the second half. Yeah. Two questions here.
Starting point is 00:16:30 One is whose fault is it for the sacks happening? The other question is whose responsibility is it to prevent the sacks from him? I think it's the offensive line's fault that the attacks are happening. I mean, because of the offensive line, if your offense can't run the offense that you want and you're now limited in your offensive abilities because of the limits of your offensive line,
Starting point is 00:16:59 then that's their fault. I mean, you can't do what you want to do because the offensive line stinks. I know, but you, So that's their fault. But you know that that wasn't true before the giant game. It's a responsibility of Eric B. enemy to fix it. But in terms of fault, I would put him second, and I would put the quarterback third.
Starting point is 00:17:25 But Tommy, before. But you can try to bounce around, dance around this offensive line thing. They stink. They weren't very good last year. They're worse this year. And that's the problem. that keeps you from doing what you want to do. I don't think it's a good offensive line either.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Okay, let me start with, I don't get all, I mean, I understand there are a lot of people looking at a lot of the data, and there are a lot of people that will tell you even inside that building until Sunday that the offensive line wasn't the issue with a lot of it. When I watch the offensive line, I actually see what you see. I don't see a very good pass blocking line. and I don't see a very good run blocking line. But the truth of the matter, as Ron likes to say, prior to Sunday, PFF ranked it the eighth best pass blocking line in the league,
Starting point is 00:18:22 and next gen had it as the 13th best pass blocking line in the league, in terms of time to pressure. And I sat here with you last week, and I said, it doesn't appear that way to me. It does not appear that way to me. Sunday was a bit different, but again, be careful because some of those line protection calls were Sam's, I believe, and they were called incorrectly. And that left basically free runners at times or the matchups that they didn't want. And that's why I would put it on the coordinator right now, at least what happened Sunday.
Starting point is 00:19:03 If that's the case, he must have been doing this all. all along, the line call. It's not something that suddenly pops up. You know, after a number of experienced games behind his belt. You ever heard a peep out of anybody in the locker room about the idiot quarterback. All we hear from Sam Howe is is how smart he is and how he never makes the same mistake. Be careful. We're talking about one game.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I'm talking about the giant game because the giant game was a different looking game with respect to the sacks. Before even any sort of film evaluation or data coming out from anywhere, it was a different kind of game because the pressures were so much quicker. So it's possible that in line protection calls, he had done a good job through the first six games or a better job and he had a rough day doing it on Sunday. That's possible too. It's also possible that the offensive line was just dreadful on Sunday. But Tommy, of the 30, sacks prior to Sunday because it's 40 now and there were six. You know, the majority of those sacks were attributed to Sam, you know, not processing
Starting point is 00:20:18 quickly enough and holding onto the ball too long. There was ample time in terms of time, you know, the time before pressure, time before he was hit to get the ball out. And I think that was something that looked correct in watching it. Sunday, I said it on Monday before any of the day. or anything was out. I didn't think that that was different. Sam didn't have much of a chance Sunday. So why did you keep dropping them back? Whether it was his fault on the line calls, whether it was the line blowing it, why did we keep going with dropbacks in the first half? They didn't in
Starting point is 00:20:56 the second half. Amazing. In the second half, first half, five sacks, 46 yards. Second half, we get more dashes, more sprint outs, more quick game. more medium and max protect, and it's 200 plus yards in one sack. So he got there, the coordinator did eventually. And even if it were the players fucking it up in the first half, it was the coordinator's responsibility to say, they're fucking it up. I can't keep calling these same kinds of concepts.
Starting point is 00:21:29 It doesn't matter how many people are wide open. Because that's the other thing that was a little bit noticeable. People were open on Sunday. They didn't have a chance, though. Right. I think we're going to see a completely different game plan Sunday. And when I say completely different, completely different from Sunday, because we saw differences against Philadelphia the first time coming off of the Buffalo game.
Starting point is 00:21:57 You know, coming off of that. That Buffalo game was a game in, you know, in the Arizona game, too. It's like, okay, we're going to have to minimize. the opportunities for a quarterback to get sacked. And dropping somebody back five to seven steps, those medium to deeper drops, what they'll call pure dropback, that means receivers are running medium
Starting point is 00:22:25 to longer length patterns in most cases, and you're going to need more time. They don't do that well, so stop doing it, unless you have to. Understand on 3rd and 10, 3rd and 15, there's only one way to get the first down, and that is to drop your quarterback back and let the receivers get downfield. Understand.
Starting point is 00:22:45 But even on third and seven, I'd be running more bubbles. I'd run draws. I'd run against nickel defenses or dime defenses. That's when maybe I'd try to run the football on third and six, third and seven. See, a lot of good teams do that. Essentially say, we're not good at dropping back. We're going to go ahead against your light box and your six defensive back. out here, and we're going to run, you know, we're going to pitch it to our running back and run sweep
Starting point is 00:23:11 and pick it up. Yeah, they seem to have the running backs between the bull that Brian Robinson is and the slick open field runner that Gibson can be that they could try to take that gamble. And Chris Rodriguez is the guy that I think they really like. He's the guy that I think is coming here. Okay. I mean, I don't know. I mean, either of the guys I mentioned can do those things.
Starting point is 00:23:37 think. Yeah, they seem to be moving away from Gibson as a ball carrier, clearly. Rodriguez had seven carries, you know, Robinson Jr. 8. When Rodriguez has been up and he's on the field, he gets the ball. I think that they have liked him since they got him into camp, and they've been wanting him to be a part of this. And I actually am very impressed with him as a runner. I don't know that he will supplant Robinson Jr. as the primary ball carrier, but it would not surprise me if that happens. But, you know, they're using Gibson more in that third down roll. Trade deadline. What would you, what would you like to see them do? If you were the GM here, would you be trading players by Tuesday? Yes. Who? Absolutely. Well, what's interesting,
Starting point is 00:24:32 is based on what the reports we've gotten, and there haven't been many, there's only been one, I think, maybe I'm wrong, that there's been interest in Chase Young and somebody has called, no, interest in Montez's sweat. That was Nicky's story. But I haven't seen any reports about interest in Chase Young. Why is that? I guess other than the fact that we just don't know. The reporting has, I mean, Josina Anderson said that they had been, teams had reached out about both of the players and that there were teams interested in giving either one of them a long-term deal. So it's not that, you know, there has been some reporting that there's been some interest in Chey Shung. And I went through a lot of the Fowler stuff and Graziano stuff and Josina Anderson stuff yesterday on yesterday's show. But there seems to be some interest in both players.
Starting point is 00:25:24 but you're right. Nicky's tweet specifically said there's been no no one's reached out about Chey Chung but there has there have been teams that have reached out about Montez Sweat. Why would... If that's what we know
Starting point is 00:25:41 based on Nicky's reporting. That's Nicky's reporting. I believe. Right. I think she's closer to the situation. I know what you want to do. So we'll just pretend that Nikki's report is the only one out there. That's what you want to do. So go ahead and ask your question. It's alarming that more teams wouldn't be calling about Chase Young unless there's a book on him around the league that he's a problem.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Okay. So you just answered the question. Montez Sweat would be a more desirable choice for teams to reach out for about and Chase Young. That's a little bit eye-opening. Yeah, if you believe, if we take Nikki's report as the only one rather, and ignore all the other reports from Jeremy Fowler and Graziano and Josina Anderson that there's been interest in both players. And we live just in the Nikki Javala world. And I'm not saying that Nikki's wrong. And you're right, Nikki's much closer to it. And no one's called them or inquired about Chase Young.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Well, that would be almost a second time. I mean, Washington put out feelers before the draft on Chase Young, and whatever they got back was not acceptable in terms of draft compensation. There might be a book on him, as you said. There may be some concerns. My personal opinion is, I would keep Chase Young. Maybe they don't have a choice. You know, maybe they're in a position where they want to trade one of them because they have decided they're not going to sign both of them. and maybe the answer is really easy for them because nobody's interested in Chase Young,
Starting point is 00:27:33 so they keep Chase Young and trade Montez Sweat. Maybe it'll just come down to that. I would keep Chase Young. I would do the opposite. I would keep Montez Sweat. I would trade Chase Young on the, I think, real possibility that since he's becoming, what appears to be good again on the field has turned in some good performances, the off-the-field branding issues may soon follow.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And I don't want to deal with that anymore, because I don't think he's that much better if he is better at all than Montez Sweat. That juice, to me, is it worth a squeezing. When I got a perfectly acceptable glass oranges right there at the other defensive end, and I've determined that I can't keep both. I disagree, but I have a feeling that they agree more with you, meaning the team, or at least the current, you know, coaches and front office. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:36 But I wouldn't trust them at this point anyway. This is where it's going to be really interesting to see what Josh Harris's involvement between now or between the last couple of weeks and Tuesday's deadline is. I mean, don't you think he should, you know, he's got to be involved in this. I mean, the future of the organization is... And I'd be worried about it if he didn't have somebody else who's not in the building in his ear giving him advice. If he doesn't have that and it's just relying on the people in that building, then that's a problem. That is a problem, although, you know, a lot of what the coach has. staff and the front office know about these players is important too.
Starting point is 00:29:27 You include that information in your decision-making. Definitely. But you better have another voice. I agree. I agree. And I would imagine, you know, with sort of the future of the organization in his mind and the future being more likely one without the current group of football people there and an opportunity to, you know, acquire, you know, draft choices, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:51 future players with players that could walk at the end of the year? Yeah, you've got to do that. I mentioned yesterday, one of the more troubling reports for me yesterday, I think came from Fowler, Jeremy Fowler, that Washington wanted to see what happened in games seven and eight. Ron made a little reference yesterday at the end of his presser about, you know, we'll have to wait and see, meaning, you know, on the trade deadline. after Sunday's game. So Sunday's game is a big game, apparently. If they win that, they're four and four,
Starting point is 00:30:27 and they're right back in it in their own mind. And they would be, actually, but we know how it'll end. All right. I wanted to get to a couple of other things that Ron said, including a comment about the offensive line and potential changes, as you were talking about earlier. Maybe you're going to get some changes this week. We'll get Tommy's prediction on both the game and the World Series,
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Starting point is 00:32:11 Sunday, of course, Washington and Philadelphia. Before we get to Tommy's prediction, Ron was asked yesterday about any offensive line changes, and he said that, yeah, there are a lot of things that we're discussing and talking about with things that can help us. I think a lot of people in taking Ron's comments about changes to the offensive line that they're looking at things right now came to a conclusion that they may be considering something that Doc said on Monday's show, Tyler Larson for Nick Gates at Center. Tyler Larson, the eight games that he started last year at Center, they were six one and one. I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I just saw somebody put that out there. But they re-signed Tyler Larson, remember, and he'd gotten injured. They signed Nick Gates. There's a possibility you could see something like Larson at Center, Gates moving to guard, especially with Charles being a little bit banged up. But yeah, they're going to try things. And Ron also mentioned with respect to. this sort of offense, you know, he's talked to Eric B. Enemy about some of the things that they are
Starting point is 00:33:28 doing. And, you know, specifically as it relates to the sacks. So this is Eric B. Enemy's offense. He's got a lot of autonomy. But I think Ron has definitely, I think it happened after the Buffalo game. And I think after Sunday, there have been some conversations about just what they're doing, in terms of the game plan and the play calling and personnel, clearly. I think some offensive line changes might be coming Sunday, and that would be my guess. Larson at center, maybe Gates moves to guard. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Tommy, what's your prediction on the game Sunday? Okay, first of all, I don't have a lot of confidence in their ability over there to do two things. Think and discuss. Okay. I don't have, that doesn't make me feel particularly. part for sure. Yeah. 32 to 19 Eagles. I think the
Starting point is 00:34:23 Eagles are probably going to be a little bit pissed off from the last game and how they almost got beat by the commanders until they ran out out of time. I think they're coming into their own and still ready to play some of their best football to come. I think
Starting point is 00:34:39 that's going to happen on Sunday. And FedEx Field is going to be a disaster. Because now Philly fans have nothing to distract their attention with the Phillies out of the World Series. They'll be there. They'll be loud. They'll be green and they'll be pissed off. You can't wait to see it. I can hear it in your voice. Sunday's going to be a disaster at FedEx Field. To have a stadium full of, you know, it's not going to be that way Sunday. We know.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Home fans. No, but I hate the hypocrisy, you know, about people saying, oh, it's going to be sold out Sunday. Yeah, it may be sold out. but they won't be your fans. Not Sunday. No, that's true. There was a true sellout, for sure, against the Cardinals. There was a, well, all of the games have been sold out, although I did see them pitching for tickets for the Giants game, which is the next home game.
Starting point is 00:35:34 But you had a legitimate sellout with Washington fans, first time and a long time. That was a great scene for the opener. We were both there. The Bills game, there was a lot of Buffalo in the crowd for that one. surprisingly, from what I heard, there was a lot of Chicago in the crowd for the Thursday night game. A lot of Chicago. And we are going to see the takeover on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I don't think there's any doubt about that. That fan base has no qualms about traveling down here. There's no issue in getting tickets in the past. And they love it. Philadelphia Eagle fans love coming into FedEx Field and turning it into the link, turning it into a home field advantage. 32 to 19. They do the same thing at Nats Park.
Starting point is 00:36:19 They do the same thing at Nats Park. Yeah, well, okay. That arch rivals, those Philly fans, those Phillies are arch rivals. God, I went off on that yesterday. I've had enough of people telling me that I can't root for Bryce Harper and Trey Turner because the Phillies are arch rivals.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Shut up. You're trying way too hard. They're not arch rivals. Nobody in Philadelphia thinks that because they tried to block Philly fans from buying tickets several years ago that they're in our rival. Stop. You're trying too hard. I want your World Series prediction, and I want your reaction to the Phillies going down. I had Zuck on the show yesterday. We talked about the Phillies losing those two games, Houston losing those two games. We'll get to Tommy's
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Starting point is 00:38:43 on tomorrow's show. 10-1-1. If you see Kevin out on the street this weekend, he's buying. Okay? Yeah, but the problem is the week before they were buying. Actually, they should be buying for me this week. I should be buying for them last week because I did not help them the week before, but it was a very good week for sure. All right, tell me about the World Series and who you like.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Well, I mean, you know, as much as I really have fallen in love with the Tass of the Diamondbacks and the way they play. Experience counts a lot. You know, none of these guys really have any postseason experience, maybe except for Longoria, whereas the Rangers have Corey Seeger. They've got Max Scherzer, who has not necessarily been a great postseason pitcher, and they've got Bruce Bochy in the dugout, who's, I think, on his way to win his fourth World Series. So I'm going to go with the Rangers, but I think it's going to come down to seven games again.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Texas, I think, has home field advantage. I think the last two games will be in the Rangers' home park. And I think it'll be a fun, competitive series with the Rangers coming out on top of the Phillies. They were betrayed by some of their big back. I tell you what, what you saw was the Trey Turner who struggled for most of the year. Yeah. He had some of the worst at bat. terrible at bats.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I've ever seen. I mean, he went down once on three pitches, three pitches, none of which were a strike. All three of them at the strike zone. All three of them. Yeah. He was flailing away, and not swinging did not seem to be an option to him. No. So, I mean, you know, Harper and Costellano, they all went cold in the last couple of games,
Starting point is 00:40:36 but Turner was the worst. He absolutely worked. He was definitely the target for Philadelphia Sports Talk Radio, because I was seeing on Twitter yesterday and last night, it was Turner, who was really the guy that they got after. I thought they would go after Harper and Schwerber a little bit, maybe Harper, but they were in the spot they were in, in part because of Harper and Schwerber.
Starting point is 00:41:04 And there's still some recognition of last year getting to the World Series because of Harper's brilliance. But I was disappointed. Like when he got up in the bottom of the seventh, and, you know, by the way, that was after Trey Turner basically swung at two pitches out of the strike zone and then flew out. You know, that was not the down on three. I think the previous hit bat.
Starting point is 00:41:30 But when he came up with two men on, two out in a four-two game, I expected something big. I did. And, you know, he had a pitch and he just didn't get it. And the inning before or the at bat bat before, it was right there. And he took that one to the warning track and it was close. But he was just a little bit off. And Tommy, I said this.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Like, I'm a big Harper fan. I've talked about this a lot. It's annoyed some of you. So what? But the bottom line is that until you are part of a champion, the biggest moment is still out there. And Tuesday night was the biggest moment. It was his first game seven.
Starting point is 00:42:19 When I say, well, it's the Phillies first game seven ever in the franchise's history. It was his first game seven in Philly, and it was right there for heroics in an at-bat with two men on and two out in the bottom of the seventh. And he did not deliver, and he was 0 for seven over the final two games. Oh, for seven. Yes So Yeah
Starting point is 00:42:40 I mean what brought them there Also brought them down But they are not a manufacturing run No Are you excited about the World Series Like do you Yeah I am You are
Starting point is 00:42:52 The Diamondbacks have me excited Okay But I didn't know hardly anything about them You know they play out in the West I didn't pay much attention to them You know I don't cover the team every day Like Zuckerman does So
Starting point is 00:43:04 There's a lot I didn't know about them. He's got a lot of good young players. So I'm excited about that. But people talk about the TV ratings. They need to gain a whole new perspective about that. There's football and then there's everything else. Yeah. And on most
Starting point is 00:43:21 nights, it's going to be pretty likely that the highest rated show on network television, if football's not on, it's going to be the baseball world series. Okay. It's down for what it used to be,
Starting point is 00:43:36 but still most nights it out draws everything else on network TV. I'm going to be watching. I've enjoyed the postseason. I always enjoy the postseason. I'm going to watch this. Look, if it's up against football, you know, it's going to be harder. I know. I'm going to be paying attention to it.
Starting point is 00:43:53 You're a Hall of Fame baseball voter. I would expect that you will be very much tuned in to every single pitch of the World Series. I think that's part of your duty. Thank you, boss. free of your orders. He just gave me. Well, I mean, I had to bring you back from vacation to cover, you know, to cover the football team for a big column about the ownership change. All right. We're done for the day. I'll be back tomorrow. See you, Tommy. See, boss.

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