The Kevin Sheehan Show - Skins Swing & Miss

Episode Date: March 17, 2020

Kevin and Thom on the Redskins first day of NFL Free Agency. Cam Newton, Tom Brady, the trades of Diggs and Hopkins all part of the today's show. <p> </p><p>Learn more about your a...d choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p> Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 You want it. You need it. It's what everyone's talking about. The Kevin Sheehan Show. Now here's Kevin. You're listening to The Sports Fix. All right, Tommy calling in by phone. Aaron and I are both in studio. We just cloroxed and lysol down the whole studio. It smells great in here. And we think we're safe for the time being. You know what? I say that. And I shouldn't even sort of even suggest that it's a pain in the ass. or suggest in sort of a sarcastic way, because I'm really not being sarcastic. I've never been more, Tommy. Like, I'm pretty much a germaphobe already, and I definitely, you know, have significant OCD tendencies. But, you know, I'm wiping everything down and mics and, you know, the mouse to work the
Starting point is 00:00:54 computer, the remote control for the TV, door knobs left and right. It's a crazy time we're living in. How are you doing? I'm doing okay. Look, I don't think you can be too overly cautious about this because we have no idea what the future holds for us. I mean, generally, this is kind of a wake-up call because we never really have any idea what the future holds for us. But now we really don't. And so I don't think you can be overly cautious at all.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Like I said, I'm the guy who started wearing rubber gloves a week ago when I went out. You know, and now you can't buy them anywhere. Well, you said that Mr. COVID or Mrs. COVID's gunning for you. Yes. You know what? I'm not taking myself out of that equation either. I mean, this is a serious thing. And it's been crazy, too, around my house.
Starting point is 00:01:49 You weren't here yesterday, but I think I told Aaron, I mean, I had, my house is full. I mean, I got all three boys home. They've got girlfriends in the house, you know. Oh, God. Honestly, it's crazy. And, you know, over the weekend, they're going out. And I finally really laid down the law Sunday. And I just said, look, here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:02:09 You're going to stay here. You're going to be coachable. You're going to follow the rules. You're not going out. You're not bringing an infection back into this house, period. Because you guys are fine. But the problem with you guys in your generation is that, and I probably would have been the same way, you know, at 19, 20, 21, 22 years old. is that I probably would have been out, you know, over the weekend and partying too.
Starting point is 00:02:34 But I think it's really, you know, hour by hour, certainly day by day. It's gotten more serious for everybody. But, you know, if you, you know, you're following all this, and most of you are, it's the young people that people are really concerned about. Because even if they don't get a symptom, they could have it and they could transmit it to somebody else. And that person's reaction, especially if they're older, would be much different. but I was going to tell you that, and I forget if I mentioned this on the podcast yesterday, and to be honest with you, I can't even remember who told me this.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I didn't come up with this on my own, but somebody said, look, this is like a movie that we're living in. But if there were a trailer for this particular movie, we haven't even gotten to the parts that would appear in the trailer. Like, we haven't, the worst is yet to come. I'm not alarming people. That's what they keep saying. The worst is yet to come. And what would show up in the trailer for this movie hasn't even happened yet. They can't cut the trailer yet.
Starting point is 00:03:33 You're right. That's a pretty good analogy. I mean, if you're trying to tell this as a movie, it hasn't started yet. That's what they're saying, you know. Listen, I have a solution for your kids. This is what you do. You tell all of them, the first one that goes out gets cut out of my will. and I'll donate the money to some charity or something like that.
Starting point is 00:04:01 So you leave the house. Don't think, you know, if you get me sick, you're going to benefit from it. Well, they're leaving the house, but they're definitely now not, you know, going to any place. Look, I said this on the podcast yesterday, and you obviously weren't on, so I'll repeat it. On Saturday, my oldest son, he came home, he feels better being at home. first of all, there's a lot of food in the house, which my wife and I went out and purchased. I mean, we certainly weren't hoarding, not even close to it. And by the way, we were picking through what was left on the shelves on Saturday, on Friday night and Saturday.
Starting point is 00:04:42 But his girlfriend, who lives in L.A., she flew in on the red eye Friday night, Saturday morning. Oh, my gosh. I know. And she said the flight was packed. the two of them went out on Saturday night every restaurant downtown was packed now you know again it's changing hour by hour certainly day by day
Starting point is 00:05:02 and the next day was Sunday was when I said look that ain't happening anymore you're not you know you've got to pay attention to this it's you're not going to go out into any place that they're telling you not to go and then coming back here that's over so if you're going to chance it and you're going to go to a large gathering
Starting point is 00:05:21 go back to your place. He's got a place downtown. Right. Where he is a roommate, you know, and, but, you know, they're used to eating out, Tommy, and that changed yesterday, you know. You know, young people are used to basically eating most of their meals outside of their place. So now if you don't eat by 5 o'clock, you don't get to eat, you know, or you're going to go to a supermarket and figure it out on your own.
Starting point is 00:05:48 But, yeah, I, I'm not, you know, I'm not, you know, My kids don't really know me as sort of an alarmist in these situations, and I'm not being alarmist. I'm just being very matter of fact. And it's like, look, here's the deal. You go out and you put yourself into a large gathering situation. You do what they're telling you not to do. Then don't come back here.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Go to your place. Period. That's it. And then, you know. What are they telling you at your radio station? Well, it's now only, you know, essential personnel. That's it, essential. And really, the essential is on the air. And you should see, like I was in the studio this morning doing the show from the studio in Silver Spring this morning. And it is, you know, lysol spray everywhere, wipes, sanitizing wipes everywhere. So we're just, you know, we're cleaning up when we walk in. We're cleaning up when we walk out. And it is a, you know, it is a lot. essential personnel only. Why? What is the other station doing? Well, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what's going to happen to me, but I know that they've given Comrex units to all the daily shows.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah. So all the daily shows, I believe, are doing it from home. Yeah, that's starting to happen where we are. And as you know, I have my own studio that I work out of every once in a while where I already have that Comrex box, and it's just me. And then when the podcast, starts, it's just Aaron and me. And it used to be you too, but nobody else. But yeah, it's, that's the way it's going. So I don't know what's going to happen with me. I imagine I'm not going to be doing Chad show tomorrow afternoon since he's doing it from his house. Well, you can call in. He can have you on by you calling him. Yeah. But I don't know what's going to happen with the Saturday morning show that I do with Nick either. I mean, because I mean with Nick, it's me, Nick and the
Starting point is 00:07:47 producer. That's the only people in that studio anywhere on a Saturday morning. And like I said, I've got rubber gloves and whites, and I've been pretty diligent about it, but it's going to get old. Yeah. You know, it's one thing to be enthusiastic about it about, you know, maintaining your protection at the beginning. But, I mean, I don't even, I don't even, I don't even want to think. what it's going to be like the end of April, beginning of May. Well, I mean, you had essentially, as we know, the gathering number dropped to 10 yesterday.
Starting point is 00:08:27 You had the president communicating that this new norm could last until August. And it is a, it's, it's, it's just strange. And I know everybody out there is going through the same thing. And, you know, I was thinking, we all were in the business that we're in. It's like there's no sports. What are you going to talk about? Well, my immediate reaction was, well, it's NFL free agency. It's essentially what we would be spending the majority of time talking about anyway.
Starting point is 00:08:58 So there's content and plenty of it. The big difference is that for a radio show, people that listen to radio shows talk shows, the significant majority of them are in their cars. And now you have a lot of people that aren't in their cars at the same time, if they're in them at all going to and from work or to and from meetings or to and from lunch, etc. The podcast format, however, is different. A lot of you that listen to the podcast listen, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:26 when you are working out at home or you're at home at night or early in the morning, you know, and some of you, and I know this because we, when we first started this, we learned a lot from a lot of the people that initially listened to. A lot of people were listening in their cars to and from work. But you had the option, obviously, to listen to this, whenever you want. And you have the option to listen to my radio show and Tommy's radio show whenever you want to. I mean, the Team 980 app and the Team 980.com and all that, you can listen
Starting point is 00:09:57 to my morning show whenever you want. But anyway, the content part isn't the issue. I mean, yesterday was an absolute frenzy. And today, even more so with the Brady News, which we will get to here in a minute. But it was quite, you know, I don't know what your position was, because I don't know that we talked about this on Friday, we may have, actually. I really didn't think that it made sense to cancel or postpone, not cancel, but postpone free agency. As long as nobody was at risk from a health standpoint, safety standpoint, I thought it made sense for the NFL to move forward. I understand what the optics could have been, and we talked about that. I think we did. But I'm glad that they moved forward.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And, you know, there was a lot of media criticism. There was not really what I could see, a lot of fan criticism. I think it was a good diversion for people yesterday and today. What did you think? Listen, normally, I am a big fan of the optics of an event because I think you can't separate them normally
Starting point is 00:11:00 from the product itself. But this time, all we're dealing with, the only thing that matters now is reality. The optics don't mean dick in terms of this. So I have no problem with the NFL
Starting point is 00:11:16 going ahead with its free agency and maybe offending people about the notion of millionaires, you know, signing new contract. We're way beyond that. You know, you are, I have to say, and this started with last week on Wednesday, and I understand, and I, look, I feel a little bit vulnerable, too. It's not, you know, I'm not 25 either, and I, this, what worries me more than anything, I'm not worried about it, okay? But there is this possibility of me.
Starting point is 00:11:52 One week a year, I get bad asthma because of the tree pollen. What if I get the virus that same week? I'm sure it would make me a little bit more vulnerable. And I know what you've been dealing with with your bronchitis in multiple bouts with respiratory stuff here in recent years. So I understand that. But you really are. I mean, you're looking at this thing as, you know, And you're right, by the way, we have no idea where this goes next.
Starting point is 00:12:20 But you should not be going into any radio studio. You shouldn't be. Really? I don't think you should. Okay, well, I went in last Wednesday. I went in on Saturday. I'm not going to be going, obviously, tomorrow. And I'd be surprised if they have us go in on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I mean, you can't tell as much as the daily personnel are very valuable. I mean, you can't really say, okay, we don't want them to come in, but it's okay, you weekend guys, come in. You know, because you don't really matter that much. Yeah. I mean, that's a bad optic, okay, right there. But generally, as far as the NFL free agency, I thought it was an important, a healthy diversion.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I think it was important, but the NFL, they have a horseshoe so far up their ass. It's just unbelievable. Not only, not only two, too, Are they not, their games not affected by this? You know, the only sport, really, where their games aren't affected by it, at least for now. But they don't have to share the stage with anyone now. Not that they didn't dominate it before, but the stage is empty. It's just them.
Starting point is 00:13:32 So, I mean, they really, I mean, right now, and I think the start of the seasons eventually going to be delayed for the NFL down the line. But for right now, they're the only. They're the biggest act in town always, and now they're the only act in town. You know, the tournament obviously is a big loss for sports fans, because it appealed to and crossed over into non-sports fans. It was a pop culture phenomenon, has been for many years. But if we get to September and there's no NFL football and no college football, oh, my God, people will be hurting.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I mean, sports fans, and I don't even know what the condition of people in this planet will be in September. But if we are in sort of a similar state, or maybe we're even coming out of it, and the season gets postponed or delayed, or we end up with an eight-gate, who knows. But man, the NFL, and just football in general in this country, is king. It is king. You know, also, real quickly, do you know, Aaron, I'm sure you've been following this. The dates that, you know, the derby's looking at, that the Masters is looking, they're looking at fall dates and fall weekends for the potential reschedule because, you know, we've already lost the Masters. We've lost the Derby. By the way, we're not only going to lose the Masters,
Starting point is 00:14:53 we're going to lose the PGA Championship. We lost the Players Championship. Very possible. We're going to lose the British Open and the U.S. Open. So you could have in the fall, football, triple crown, every golf major, like everything sort of NBA finals, like you could have everything, you know, being trying to sort of, you know, pushed into like a one to two-month window. It could be one of the greatest sports periods of all time if everybody's healthy and the virus is on the decline at that point. Yes. Yes, it could, but you're missing the granddaddy of the mall. The Rose Bowl? The big, no, the Olympics. Yeah, I know. The Olympics is a financial nightmare, a financial nightmare for the people involved right now.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I know people who work in the Olympics, and they are, they're just frightened to death about their product at this point, not the illness, but the reality is that I don't think the Olympics are supposed to start July 24th. I don't think that's going to happen. and the amount of money we're talking about that the network and organizers spend on that event and how important that is worldwide. I mean, look, you're talking NFL football. I mean, the Olympics are worldwide event. That if they happen to have come back, if they could do the Olympics, like as scheduled, it would be a huge emotional boost to the world.
Starting point is 00:16:29 but I don't think they're going to, and that's going to be the biggest hit worldwide in the world of sports. Right. I don't think you're going to see the Olympics. But as you know, Americans would be much more devastated if their sacred NFL were taken away from them. They would make the trade Olympics for NFL right now. Football fans would. Yeah. Not housewives and family members.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Well, I don't know. You know, football crosses over into almost every, every, every. every demographic. So there's a lot that's happened since my radio show this morning. At the very end of the show, the Brady thing broke. We're going to get to that. But the thing that just broke moments ago is that the Panthers have given Cam Newton the ability to seek a trade. And what I just saw on Twitter, all right, just sit down before you hear this. Terry McClorn has just tweeted out that story about Cam Newton being available via trade. And he just tweeted out sort of the hands together in the praying formation. So I thought that was very interesting. And I don't know,
Starting point is 00:17:46 you know, what that means. I have no idea what that means. Give it somebody a taste in her own medicine. You know what? I know that, I mean, of course I'm kidding, everybody. I am kidding. That's not what would happen. That's not what did happen, but I did find it interesting that even, you know, when Stefan Diggs tweeted out yesterday, it's time for a new beginning. That's what we got from Dwayne Haskins, the retweet with the hands together, praying. Yeah. And by the way, people got upset with me because when Dwayne tweeted that out, I said, hold on, I'm going to find it here what my reply was, because I replied to Dwayne for the first time. I've never done that before. And several of you got upset with my reply.
Starting point is 00:18:32 My reply was, what slash who should your GM trade for him? I was interested in whether or not, you know, Dwayne would respond. He didn't respond or he hasn't responded, I don't think. And several people, you know, got upset with me. Somebody said, I hope he blocks you. And I said, well, why? Aren't you curious as to what, you know, he would want and who he would trade? You know, for Diggs?
Starting point is 00:18:59 I mean, if you're going to put that out there, let's hear the whole thing. And, you know, others said... Well, they didn't like it because you exposed him. I did? I don't think I really exposed him. Well, yeah, you did. I was just curious. I was curious who we would...
Starting point is 00:19:13 You spoke to him, how foolish he is to do that. Because you don't just get a player to be able to come here for nothing. It involves a trade. Diggs was not a free agent. Unless you're the Arizona Cardinal. Unless you're the Arizona Cardinal. Unless you're the Arizona Cardinal. Unless you're a huge...
Starting point is 00:19:28 with Houston and then they'll just give them to you. So anyway, the news here on Cam Newton, I have no idea. Just so everybody understands, I have no idea if the Redskins are interested in Cam Newton. Of course, every talk show on television, when that news broke about 30, 40 minutes ago, they were all mentioning the Redskins as a possibility. Obviously, it's not just Ron Rivera, it's Scott Turner too, you know? and it's one year at $19.5 million, and that's it. Maybe that's the veteran quarterback they bring in to either mentor Dwayne,
Starting point is 00:20:06 or start if they don't think Dwayne is ready. I have no idea whether or not that will happen. I do know this, if this is true. I remember Matthew Berry, the fantasy guy on ESPN, Aaron. Right? I don't really, I don't follow him. I don't watch him, but I know that he had this report two weeks ago maybe that Ron Rivera and Cam Newton absolutely love each other. That Ron Rivera loves Cam. Cam loves Ron Rivera. The relationship is super, super tight.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Now, that's a lot of money for one year, 19 and a half million bucks. When you're paying out the same year. That's right. And Dwayne Haskins, a rookie contract. But they didn't get a Marri Cooper for $22 million. That's a lot of money for the quarterback position. Here's the interesting thing. The Panthers just put out on Twitter statement from Marty Herney,
Starting point is 00:21:09 which pretty much indicated that if a trade isn't worked out, they're going to release them. I think that's when it becomes really interesting if it gets to that point. Well, because you could theoretically, I mean, first of all, right now, you know, what does Cam Newton bring back with one year left on his deal coming off the injuries? And by the way, some, you know, at least some conversation about how much he really wants to dig in and commit to football moving forward for the rest of his career. So you're not going to get a hell of a lot for Cam to begin with because of that situation. That's true.
Starting point is 00:21:47 If he got released, Aaron, yeah, you know, you still, you know, Yeah, and then at that point, you can essentially, you know, sign him for something else if you, you know, you can work that out. If you trade for him, you basically have his contract. I have no idea. I would, my personal guess is no. That's my personal guess on Cam Newton. I still think the Redskins will go out and sign an absolute perceived true backup to Haskins. That's what my guess is.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Cam Newton's availability doesn't change. that for me. But I do think it would be so interesting if they were interested and they made a move. And you know what's interesting about that, Tommy and Aaron? I don't necessarily think it would be like an indictment or a final conclusion on Dwayne. I think it would be Rivera's really comfortable with Cam. He, you know, Cam, he believes could be a mentor to Dwayne in many ways and that maybe Dwayne is the guy 20-21 and moving forward, but with Cam and 2020, we're going to have a shot. Now, they didn't get the receiver they wanted in Amari Cooper.
Starting point is 00:22:57 More on that coming up. But that's my guess is that they don't, is it Cam Newton doesn't end up. And that would be the betting odds, too. But I bet Cam Newton's not a Redskin. Oh, I don't think he's going to be a Redskin either because of the simple notion that the owner won't let them get them as a Redskin. It's simple as that. I don't care what Ron Rivera wants.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Dan Snyder's not going to let them bring in Cam Newton. Come on. Well, there's always that, too. There's always that, too. Yeah, so I thought I'd like that crazy here. Yeah. I mean, if Cam Newton comes in here, I'm sorry, but Twain Haskins is on the phone to his buddy, Dan,
Starting point is 00:23:39 and they're in their plot in Ron Rivera's demise within a half an hour. Rivera doesn't make it to the opener. Yeah. Here's an interesting Cam Newton notes. So Panthers put out, we have given Cam Newton permission to seek a trade. Cam Newton has responded to that. Stop with the word play.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I never asked for it. There is no dodging this one. I love the Panthers to death and will always love you guys. Please do not try and play me or manipulate the narrative and act like I wanted this. You forced me into this. That certainly sounds like it's over in Carolina. Bridgewater to Carolina, right now? That seems to make sense to me.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Okay, so it's not Bridgewater to New England. Let's get to this Tom Brady stuff, and then we'll do all the Redskins stuff, I promise. Brady, for those of you that don't know yet, at this point it would be crazy if you don't know. Brady basically announced on Instagram today, he's done. His days with New England are over. He's going to play for somebody else. He wrote a note. He said, I wanted to say thank you to all the incredible fans.
Starting point is 00:24:52 and Patriot supporters. Massachusetts has been my home for 20 years. It's been truly the happiest two decades I could have envisioned in my life, and I have nothing but love and gratitude for my time in New England, and it goes on and on and on. It's a very warm, heartfelt goodbye note
Starting point is 00:25:10 to Patriots Nation. Both Belichick and Kraft have weighed in, and they say the nicest things about Brady, and so apparently too Kraft called Stephen A in the middle of his show to make sure that Stephen A on first take knew this was Brady's decision, not the Patriots decision. That's apparently been made very clear by Robert Kraft
Starting point is 00:25:41 that Brady, you know, wanted to move on. Kraft said, I love him like a son, I'm very sad, I wish it were the right thing for him to stay here. I've known him for half his life. I told him that I watched him come here as a kid with peach fuzz, and he told me that he'd be the best decision I ever made. Kraft said he thinks Brady's decision to leave the Patriots, was based on financial considerations.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I think he just wanted to move on. It's crazy that it would be financial considerations, but that it was Brady's call. So now we get to what's next for Brady. My immediate reaction was bucks or chargers. What have I said for three months now on what I think would be the best fit for him, Aaron, is your Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And they are now the betting favorite at minus 130.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I think the Chargers would be great, too. I think if he goes to Tampa, and to me, him being in L.A. makes a lot of sense more than Tampa. But I think Tampa could win certainly be a legitimate Super Bowl contender with him. I would agree. I agree on both those. I think it's the Chargers. and Tampa.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I think he has a better chance of winning in Tampa than he does in L.A. You know, I agree with you that the Chargers or the Bucks make some sense. I think he has a better chance of winning in Tampa. The L.A. connection, I think, is based on this notion that he wants to be some kind of media personality, I don't know, Hollywood type or something like that in his post-playing career. and he has he hasn't have He's got no personality He's got no charisma other than what he does on the football field
Starting point is 00:27:25 He's boring I agree with that I do agree with that He's not He his charisma is him on a football field In the same way Tiger Woods' charisma is his game And when he's on a golf course I completely agree with that
Starting point is 00:27:42 Obviously you know I think most people would say he's a handsome man with a face for Hollywood, but he's not an actor. So am I, but he don't see me out there. Well, I mean, actually, I think you're slightly better looking. But he's not, yeah, I agree with you. He's not an actor. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:28:03 It's not so much about that. It's about where he and his wife would prefer to live. You know, they'd probably prefer Southern California to, you know, Tampa, St. Pete. more likely than not. I would think that that would be true. Although his money would go farther in Tampa. It would. I know, without state taxes.
Starting point is 00:28:25 But again, I don't, I mean, considering she's worth him, they got a lot of money. They got a lot of money. earnings-wise, yeah. I mean, I don't know why money would be a consideration. So the Chargers, you know. Wait a minute. One last thing about Brady. Do you think he did it on St. Patrick's Day on purpose?
Starting point is 00:28:44 No. I think he did. You do? How can you ignore it? One of the biggest days in Boston. Yeah, but there's no parade. Well, I know. This makes it more painful.
Starting point is 00:28:57 This makes it work. I don't think he wanted to stick it to that fan base. Or the city? I think he did this on St. Patrick's Day on purpose. Whatever his motives were, I think he did. What would it have hurt to wait a day? Well, it's just that tomorrow is the beginning of free agency, even though the legal tampering period is really the beginning of free agency.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I don't think it had anything to do with that. I think that I don't know what the deal is with Brady and with Belichick and Brady in New England. You know, I would bet in many ways Belichick is excited to sort of prove that he can win a Super Bowl without Brady. and Brady would be excited to prove that he could do the same without Belichick. You know, Belichick is not, you know, the parent that, you know, expresses his or her love every single day and tells you how great you are. I'm sure at some point Brady would love to have somebody that's more reassuring and more confidence inspiring, even though he doesn't need it. You know, both situations Tampa and the Chargers are intriguing, certainly from a roster, standpoint. It probably gives them a much better chance, especially since the Patriots have lost
Starting point is 00:30:14 right, Aaron. They lost Kyle Van Nuoy yesterday. They've already lost Jamie Collins, right? They're losing players left and right. They don't have a lot of cap space. Both Tampa and the Chargers may give them a better chance to compete for a Super Bowl. My God, the talent that both of them have on offense. And both coaching staffs, you know, Anthony Lynn's done a decent job there. And certainly Bruce Ariens, the combination of Bruce Ariens, Byron Leftwich, and Todd Bowles, I think that is what you call a professional staff. I agree. And so Godwin and Evans and Brate and Howard and, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:51 the Tampa situation, even though they didn't perform well defensively last year, they've got some defensive talent. I mean, we said this a million times, Aaron. If James Winston cut his interceptions by just 15%, they probably would have been in the playoffs or had a chance to be in the playoffs last year. Every single loss was a close, heartbreaking loss, usually courtesy of too many turnovers from James Winston.
Starting point is 00:31:16 That team, to me, I looked at, I couldn't find the division odds on my site, updated division odds. I did find the over-under totals, and New England had dropped to nine, nine and a half. Buffalo had gone up, I think, to eight and a half, nine, something like that. So Buffalo may ultimately be the favorite to win that division. But what about Tampa? What do you have? Right now for the AFC site, Patriots still listed as a minus 110 favorite Buffalo plus 175. What about the NFC South and or AFC West?
Starting point is 00:31:47 NFC South, St. Sar, prohibited favorite minus 225, Tampa plus 300 right now. Man, now's the time to jump on that just in case. And by the way, speaking of Buffalo. If there's a season. If Stefan Diggs got frustrated at Kirk Cousin, Where do we get to look at Josh Allen? Yeah, no, we're going to get to the digs and cousins stuff, definitely. Cousins has probably gotten more, has been paid more money for a player of his caliber.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I don't know, there are a lot of baseball deals, Tommy, you would be able to point to. You know, I like Cousins a lot, but Cousins is not a top five player, but has been paid like one now for five consecutive. years. It's quite remarkable. And the Redskins set them up on that. They started the whole thing. Started the whole thing. It's going to be interesting, too, to watch Dak Prescott in Dallas, if he gets a long-term deal done or not, because I personally think if you do the math on the Prescott thing, he's waiting for the new TV deals. Because once the new TV deals get cut, that's when you strike. And I think one of the reasons, Kirk, you know, there was reporting over the
Starting point is 00:32:56 weekend that he wasn't going to do an extension. And I said, just wait, wait until some of these deals start happening. And then the Tannahill deal happened. And, you know, I thought he would have waited longer personally, but he cleared up some space for them. Go ahead. You were going to say something. No, that's all I was going to talk about the Diggs frustration with cousins. And he's not going to like life with Josh Allen in Buffalo. All right. Let's get to the Redskins here after a quick word about my bookie.ag. There are things to bet on. You can bet NFL futures right now. You know, you can bet on where Tom Brady's going to land right now. Go to my bookie.orgie. It's easy to use. They pay fast when you win. They'll let you bet on anything, not just games.
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Starting point is 00:34:38 and that's clearly what they attempted to do. For those of you that were saying, where's all the aggression? Well, don't be stupid. They were aggressive. They offered Amari Cooper, you know, 2 million more per year, according to reports, than Dallas did. They wanted to be aggressive, but there's no guarantee you're going to get the player to reciprocate. You know, it's a two-way street. The player has to want to play for you, too.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And the Redskins, you know, were all in on Amari Cooper. This was going to be their centerpiece of free agency. They really wanted Cooper. Now, you can debate whether or not you should invest that much money in a wide receiver. I understand that. I think it's a reasonable, you know, an absolute reasonable sort of conclusion to come to that, you know, wide receivers never make the difference between Super Bowl teams and non-super Bowl teams. I'm just telling you, the Redskins, and I told you this a month ago,
Starting point is 00:35:28 The Redskins were going to be aggressive. Amari Cooper was at the top of their list, as was Austin Hooper and Kenyon Drake. Now, Drake got transition tagged, certainly after what turned out to be one of the most incredible trades we've seen in recent memory, Houston trading D'Andre Hopkins for David Johnson and his second round pick. So, you know, them trading David Johnson meant that they were going to keep, they're going to keep Kenyon Drake. They'll have the right to match any offer that comes in. But yeah, I mean, this was, here's what I would say about the Amari Cooper miss. Number one, I totally and understand, and I think it's completely justified, understand those of you that say good. Glad they didn't spend that much money on a wide receiver. But that's really missing the point, because the point is if you're like me and you believe in Ron Rivera for the time being,
Starting point is 00:36:23 and you think Ron Rivera is going to get the job done here, okay? Well, they wanted him. He wanted him. This was a big part of their plan. They thought if they overbid the market, if they overpaid, they would get him. And they didn't. And so you ask yourself, well, why didn't they get him? Well, I mean, a lot of reasons, right? First of all, Mara Cooper may have just wanted to play in Dallas. Number two, it's the Redskins. You know, you hate when Tommy and I are critical about the Redskins. but they're not a premium or desired destination for most of these players. They've seen the team. They've seen the disaster on game day, you know, 20% capacity in the crowd, and that's on a good day. It's going to take time for Rivera to change the culture so that it becomes a more attractive destination. It's not now.
Starting point is 00:37:19 You know, and that's why I said a month ago, when I threw out Amari Cooper and Hooper and Drake, you know, it doesn't mean that they'll get him. They're going to want to have to come here. And right now, this place still isn't, you know, a desirable location, destination for players. But whether or not you thought it made sense for them to make that kind of offer to Amari Cooper or not, it's what Ron Rivera wanted to do. You know, it's what this new group wanted to do. And they wanted to put weapons around Dwayne Haskins.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And so far, they haven't been able to do it. On Hooper, the money got too heavy, and for whatever reason, they wouldn't step it up with Hooper. I don't know that they loved Hooper as much. They had a price tag on them, but they weren't willing to go to that number. And Cleveland was. All right? Personally, I thought what JP said to us yesterday made a lot of sense, and that is what Hooper's making this year, what he signed for, the Redskins paid more to Jordan Reed and Vernon Davis a year ago. So I don't get that one. I sort of agree with JP on that.
Starting point is 00:38:25 I think maybe they should have gone a little bit higher on Hooper. On Kenyon Drake, obviously they transitioned him. He's not available. The tight end situation, Hunter Henry franchised, Hayden Hurst traded, Jimmy Graham signs elsewhere. I don't want Ebron. I don't want Eric Ebrun. The Stefan Diggs thing, let's get to that,
Starting point is 00:38:45 before we get to the players that they did make moves on. Once Diggs put that tweet out, everybody's like Redskins, Redskins, Redskins, and Tommy, I'm like, look, first of all, I don't know that the Redskins are going to be interested, and I found out after the fact that there was very little interest in Diggs. Think about Rivera, wants a good culture, right? You know, think about the one player that wasn't thrilled with Ron Rivera
Starting point is 00:39:08 when he played for him for a brief moment in time, and that was Stephen Smith, Sr. You know, he never got along with him. I don't think Rivera thinks he would get along with Diggs. Diggs has not helped himself here in recent years. some of these tirades on sidelines during a playoff game for crying out loud. But more importantly, the Redskins didn't have enough to make a deal with Minnesota. They didn't have a second round pick.
Starting point is 00:39:29 They didn't have a late round first. And Trent Williams is going to cost too much money for Minnesota to sign. So I didn't think that the digs to Redskins thing would work. I am surprised ultimately that Minnesota traded him, but I don't think he was ever a desired target for the Redskins. With that said, Tommy, my God, if we were told that Houston was willing to accept peanuts for DeAndre Hopkins, I would have given them a lot more than peanuts. I mean, of course, as a Redskins fan, getting Hopkins, we would have been celebrating today as much as you can in this world environment. I mean, that would have been incredible, but, you know, they had Cooper on their mind. But anyway, thoughts on Cooper, Diggs, and then we'll get to the players that they did sign.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Go ahead. Your turn. Well, many years ago, there was a general manager for the Baltimore Orioles named Sid Trift. And this was the early years of the Orioles demise when they had turned into basically a toxic organization. and they had money to spend one year on free agency, and no one was taking it. No one was coming there. And Sid Triff made the famous quote, It's likely have Confederate money.
Starting point is 00:40:58 That's sort of what the Redskins are dealing with right now. And I think you're right. I think that, you know, maybe the rest of the league, or at least the talk around the league is, you know, we believe in Ron Rivera. We just don't know if we believe in Ron Rivera. as the Washington Redskins head coach yet. We haven't really seen anything in terms of his ability
Starting point is 00:41:21 to turn that culture around. So I agree with you 100%. I mean, why would you risk your future to come here now, you know, and knowing what you know, seeing what you've seen from this organization? So I think you have a situation that, you know, the rest of the league is wait and see
Starting point is 00:41:44 on what happens with Ron Rivera and Dan Snyder. You know, now for Redskins fans, you have all should have signed the pledge that says, whatever Ron wants is fine with me. If Ron wanted to spend billions on
Starting point is 00:42:00 Amari Cooper, then I'm on board. You know, that's basically the mode you have to be in at this point. You know, you can't sit there and get angry now because you know, they didn't get Amari Cooper. You've got to commit to this coach if you're a real Redskins fan.
Starting point is 00:42:20 And whatever he, at least the first year, whatever he does. I think we missed one other piece to the Cooper or to, you know, free agents maybe, you know, not looking at Washington. I think we hit on the big ones. But here's the other one with an offensive player, a receiver. And that is Dwayne Haskins. We can't discount what, you know, a receiver might think of Dwayne Haskins. You know, best case, they aren't sure.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Worst case, they really don't believe. You know, I mean, in Cooper's case, look, I think Cooper wanted to stay in Dallas and be a cowboy. I think reading through some of that, you know, and now that Dax's there. And by the way, as far as the player goes, I know a lot of you don't think that Amari Cooper is a top five player. I think he's a top five talent on his way to become. to becoming potentially a top five receiver. I loved Cooper coming out in that draft that the Redskins took Brandon Sheriffin. I just do.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I like Amari Cooper. I'm a fan. Now, you know, that's a lot of money for a wide receiver. I understand that. But anyway, I think that part of it could have been Haskins, too. You know, I mean, if you're a wide receiver, you've got to believe in the quarterback, too. and at the very least, I would think that most people aren't sure, including players. They're not going to be completely sure about Dwayne Haskins at this point.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I would agree. That's an excellent point in that if you're a receiver, after money, I would think the secondary concern is who's throwing me the ball. Right. Who's going to get me the ball? And I'm sorry, as much as I do agree with you that Dwayne Haskins showed some reasons to be optimistic at the end of last year if you're a Redskins fan, he didn't show enough if you're a wide receiver to commit your next three or four years of your career
Starting point is 00:44:19 to catching passes from him. Yeah, exactly. Now, on the digs trade to Buffalo, I mean, Buffalo gives up that first rounder. They gave up four picks in total to get Steph, Fon Diggs. I mean, they paid more for Diggs than Arizona did for Hopkins, which is crazy. Ultimately, Minnesota gets a first, a fifth, a sixth, and a fourth next year, and Buffalo gets Diggs in a seventh rounder. So, you know, they get number 22 overall, I think is Buffalo number 22 overall. I think I looked at
Starting point is 00:45:05 that earlier this morning. So now Minnesota, with two picks in the first round, at 22 and 25, I believe it is, 22 and 25. They have a chance in that first round with all of those receivers to replace Stefan Diggs. They're going to have a chance at Jerry Judy or C.D. Lamb or Henry Ruggs or Jefferson or any of these receivers, you know, that could potentially be there in Buffalo Spot T. Higgins at 22 or the Minnesota spot at 25. And they're also going to have a chance to probably get You know, what they want. I think they want more, you know, they sort of need a corner at this point. And they probably got rid of a bit of a headache in Diggs. And you mentioned it. Like, if Diggs, you know, I don't care what anybody says about Kirk Cousins, the dude has thrown 56 touchdown passes against 16 interceptions and completed 70% of his passes the last two years.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Okay, whatever you want to say about him, he has been at least. least a highly productive player at the position. His record is a starting quarterback, 18, 12, I think it's 18 and 12 as the Vikings starter over the last two years, something like that, with one playoff win now in two years. You know, they've moved on from Diggs. They extended Kirk. So you tell me what, you know, what their preference was. I am ultimately surprised Diggs was really, really productive last year. I mean, Diggs caught, I think he was top three, right, Aaron, in average yards per reception? It was like near 18 yards per catch last year.
Starting point is 00:46:50 And that was without feeling on the other side for much of the year. But you can't keep throwing these tirades on the sideline. In a playoff game, that was the worst. You know, the irony of it is, is that big celebration with cousins walking into the locker room in the Superdome, you know, and the, how do you know, how do you like that when he screamed that out? You know who was front and center cheering him on and hugging him? Stefan Diggs. You know, if you go back and watch that video, Diggs is right there front and center,
Starting point is 00:47:23 cheering Kirk on as he's going through his post-game speech. But anyway, good for Arizona, man. they get a better player in Hopkins, a better dude and a better teammate than Diggs. And I like Diggs. I'm a Maryland guy. I wanted Diggs in that 2015 draft when the Skins took Crowder. I was there, you know, you and I were doing a show then. I was like, take Stefan Diggs, Jesus. He's going to be at the very least a lethal punt returner for you. And they took Crowder. But I thought that was interesting. Just, you know, I don't know what Bill O'Brien's doing. leads me to this too with Bill O'Brien. This was the opportunity for the Redskins, guys.
Starting point is 00:48:08 No matter what you believe about what was available for Trent last year or what wasn't available, Bill O'Brien has now made three of the worst trades as the sort of acting GM. Okay? The Jadavian Clowney trade terrible. The Laramie Tunsell trade way overpaid. And now the D'Andre Hopkins trade, one of the worst. received trades I think I've ever seen. Aaron, can you remember a time when a trade was so universally, you know, described as a one-sided fleecing, one team versus the other? Last time Bill O'Brien made a trade last offseason for Tunsell.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Yeah, for Tunsell or the one with when he traded Clownie and didn't get enough back for him. And so there was the opportunity. Houston was interested in Trent Williams, you know, before they made the Tunsell. deal. Now, I would, you know, Bruce Allen may not have been smart enough to get the most in a deal out of Houston, but, you know, if you would just, I mean, you would have, this is where when the guys say you would have never gotten a first last year, I say, really, look at what Houston's done in these trades. You're going to tell me if you had made Trent Williams available that you wouldn't have gotten a deal that would have looked a hell of a lot better
Starting point is 00:49:26 than the deal you're going to get now. You're out of your mind. Well, that's ridiculous. Of course they would have. I mean, you know, people. people are kidding themselves to believe otherwise. What's interesting as we bear all over free agency like bumper cars here and get back to Brady for a second because it's connected to the Redskins. There seems to be this connection to Tred Williams going to the Chargers to attract Brady to sign with the Chargers. Where are you seeing that?
Starting point is 00:49:57 That wouldn't surprise me at all, by the way, because they have a need and they have this space. I'm sorry? I forget where I saw it. I saw it on social media, and there's this notion that the Chargers would trade for Tred Williams. It would be part of the deal to try to convince Tom Brady to sign with the Chargers. That does absolutely, that does not surprise me at all. The Chargers are one of those teams that's been mentioned.
Starting point is 00:50:26 They have the salary cap space. You know, they're up there in the top 10 of available salary cap space. they have the need. They have, you know, obviously in Williams and in Keenan Allen and in Hunter Henry and in Echler who they re-signed, they've got the weapons. And you add at Trent Williams, and by the way, the Chargers, the Chargers refresh my memory, Aaron. I think they've got an early second round pick.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I think they have an early second round pick, which, you know, if what you're reading has any merit, that would be, that'd be perfect. If Brady's looking for $30 million, do they have the cap space, though, for both. Yes, because you can certainly, you can you can backload the Trent deal. You know, because Brady's going to be a short-term front-loaded deal, and you can backload the Trent deal. But, I mean, they've got the weapons, man. They have the weapons, and they're moving into their new
Starting point is 00:51:21 stadium this year, right? Yes, yes, they are. Assuming the stadium construction doesn't get delayed. Yeah, that's true. I mean, there's so many, there's so many, ramifications of what's going on here. That's a good one, though. I mean, we've mentioned the Chargers in the past as a possibility, but now with Brady potentially going to the Chargers, it makes more sense that the Chargers would be interested in Trent.
Starting point is 00:51:49 They have their second round pick is 37 overall. Obviously, you're not getting number six overall, because they're going to use that still with Brady there. They'll probably use that to draft the quarterback of the future. At the quarterback, yes, they will. You know, Justin Herbert as an example, it's possible that they would do that. They, yeah, I mean, they. I mean, Fred Williams could be, you know, protecting the blind side of Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:52:18 What do you think Tom Brady has left? Hold on for a second. Remember the Russell Okun trade. He's with the Chargers, right? Because that was the trade last week for trade Turner straight up. Okay. Am I right about that, Aaron? Wasn't that the trade Turner? Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Okay. Then I must have been reading an old tweet. Okay. Must have been old. Yeah, because I just, I pulled up their depth chart real quickly, and it's, and yeah, the Okun trade. You know what? It doesn't. This was old.
Starting point is 00:52:50 You know what? It doesn't matter, though, because still, first of all, Trent Williams, you know, one of the reasons Houston is still interested in Trent, which they are apparently. At least standing reported that. And Arizona could still be a really good destination for Trent as well. But, you know, one of the reasons is Houston actually might consider playing one of the two at right tackle. And Okun could certainly play right and Trent could play left in that particular situation. You're going to want to protect Brady. You're going to, I mean, for the chargers. I mean, the goal here is you need to protect Brady if he ends up there.
Starting point is 00:53:31 So if you've got, who's their right tackle? I don't even know who their right tackle is. Sam Tevey, TV, I have no idea if he's any good. But, you know, Rivers was under siege last year. I do remember that for much of the year. Okay. Does Tom Brady have anything left? Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Definitely. If you put him in the, I mean, look at what they accomplished. last year with no weapons offensively. You're right. I agree. I agree. It will be real curious to say a quarterback who basically set the tone for the whole culture in New England. If he will come in there as the big swinging, you know what, saying everyone's going to do things my way, or if he's just going to quietly adapt to whatever the culture is with him?
Starting point is 00:54:23 I don't see him leaving where he was if this was his choice to quietly adapt to a new spot. Do you? No, probably not, but that will be an interesting mixture as to, I mean, what he's used to, the way New England does business is a lot different than every other team almost. And it will be real curious to see how he adjusted at. The nicely about the places he might go is there's not really a culture for him to up bend in the Chargers or the Buccaneers locker room. They'll gladly take the Brady culture. That's true. I mean, they probably will. Are we, are we? You think, you, what, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:55:04 You think he still has a lot left. Oh, I think he's certainly got, you know, one to two years left. I mean, here's what we've seen over the years, right, Tommy? I mean, we have seen some of the biggest name quarterbacks in the history of the game, not in their careers in the places they started. You know, And some of them had, unfortunately, not very good endings in the new places, like Unitas in San Diego, like Namath with the Rams. That's right. But Montana did, and Peyton did. You know, Montana didn't get him to the Super Bowl, but he got him to the AFC title game, and he was really good. And Peyton, you know, forget about the team that won the Super Bowl with mostly Von Miller in defense.
Starting point is 00:55:48 he had an incredible year in that Super Bowl that they lost to Seattle in. So I know he's 42 years old. The point is, like, you tell me how old was Unitas when it just completely fell apart? And it went from he's really good to no good anymore. I know it can happen super quickly. And maybe Brady's years next year, but we just saw him have a really good season in New England with not a lot of help. Yeah, and he thought he went to the Chargers for an hour.
Starting point is 00:56:18 absolute disaster. Terrible. United States did. When United States did, I mean, they were a drug-filled team. That was a team full of drug addicts that United States went to. And he talked to me about it once years later. So the charges were a mess. And that's
Starting point is 00:56:36 not, Brady's not going to face that situation. You know, I mean, what we're doing now is also reflecting, like you mentioned, all the quarterbacks who have done something like this before. And here's something I really get think it's underrated. What Pete Manning did in Denver, I think it's underplayed and underrated. It's tremendous. He set the 55 touchdowns. He set the NFL record that first year in 2013.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And this is a guy who people thought couldn't even throw the ball 20 yards anymore. I know. So what Manning did, I just think, really gets underplayed in terms of his career in that time. he was in Denver. I mean, people just want to talk it up to Von Miller and that great Denver defense. But what Peyton Manning did, I mean, Brady's not going to do that. He's not going to throw 55 touchdown. I'll tell you what, if he's in Tampa, he's going to throw a lot. I mean, he's going to throw a lot of touches. Because you think about this, James Winston threw how many, 35? How many touchdown? Yeah, it was the 30-30 season. So think about if he didn't throw all those interceptions and he had stayed on the field instead of throwing interceptions that took him off
Starting point is 00:57:50 the field, he'd have thrown 45 at least. Where's Winston going to end up? There's a lot of interesting things with his musical chairs. Winston could end up without a seat. Well, if Brady goes to the Chargers, he could end up with a seat in Tampa. Right, and that might be. And Philip goes to Indianapolis. If Teddy goes to Carolina.
Starting point is 00:58:11 And Cam comes to Washington. Dalton ends up in New England. Yeah. Oh, so on New England real quickly, because obviously now it's a new day for the New England Patriots, we think. They don't have a lot of cap space, as most of you know. I mean, they're near the bottom in cap space. So it's not like they can make, I mean, I guess they could theoretically make a move and cut a few more players and sign a rivers or go after a bridgewater. But I liked Jarrett Stidham.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Cooley and I had this conversation about the quarterbacks in the draft, and I said, I like Jared Stidham. I think he's going to be an NFL starter at some point down the road. And I don't think Cooley agreed with me, although I think he liked him. But I think the Patriots do like Stidham. They could be starting over next year. You know, they lost Van Nuoy.
Starting point is 00:59:00 They lose Collins on defense. They may be looking at this thing, and what would be interesting is if they really are starting a rebuild and they're going to start Jarrett Stidham next year of quarterback. Is Belich in for the long haul? is he in for the total rebuild? I think if he didn't walk away the same time Brady did, then I think he's in for the long haul.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Now that Brady's walked first, he can't walk at the same... He can't walk tomorrow, can he? No, he can't. No, he can't do that. Look, I've always been, if you're given credit to Brady or Belichick, I've always been the Belichick camp. I've given more credit to him for their success than, than giving it to Brady.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I think it's equal. Okay. I'd lean Brady. Really? I think so. I've always had a difficult time with this one. I just think that it was like the perfect marriage. It's the greatest coach, and he was such a great coach before Brady.
Starting point is 01:00:06 And I understand that. One of the great defensive minds of all time. You know, gave the, you know, actually had an 11 and 5 season with the Cleveland Browns. And actually had an 11 and 5 season with Matt Castle. That's true. And didn't make the playoffs. But I don't think, like some think, that if Brady had been drafted by, let's just say,
Starting point is 01:00:31 a horrible organization like the Browns or the Redskins or the Jets or somebody like that, that he wouldn't have elevated that program to significant heights, I think he would have. And I understand when people say, well, Aaron Rogers is more of that kind of guy that would elevate the team. No, Brady's that kind of guy, too. Brady's an all-time great special player. I mean, let's not act like Brady wouldn't have been a winner somewhere else. I don't buy that at all.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And let's not act like if you had stuck any quarterback into the Josh McDaniels, you know, Weiss, Belichick, you know, environment that they would. would have won as many. I think if you'd take it somebody like Philip Rivers, I think Rivers would be holding multiple rings, you know, right now. But you still need somebody great. The issue isn't whether Brady would be great. The issue is with any other coach, would a six-round draft pick be given the opportunity. Well, yeah. You've done that. I mean, I'm not true. I don't give. Gibbs would have. Gives would have, yes. Right. But those coaches are very few. and far in between.
Starting point is 01:01:42 There's more likely that somebody in another situation when Drew Bledsoe went down with a panic and said, we've got to get a quarterback in here. And Brady may have never gotten his chance. That was a really good E-60 show, if I didn't mention that in previous podcasts, that I watched on my flight back from Utah like a month ago. The E-60 on Drew Bledsoe is excellent.
Starting point is 01:02:07 You know, that injury that he had against the Jets that brought Brady into the lineup, nearly killed him. He was close to dying with that injury. And it's just an interesting story. He's actually got, he runs, he's got vineyards in Northern California. He's an interesting guy, and it was quite the interesting story. And you can tell that Bledsoe ended up, and he ended up being supportive of Brady and ended up becoming friends with Brady. But he thinks that he would have had the same success as Brady. He really does. And if he doesn't get hurt there, they certainly don't go to Brady at that point. But you're right. You know, you're right. Like Belichick has the ability to say, well, I don't really care what round he got picked in. And I've watched him now in practice.
Starting point is 01:02:57 And he's going to be great because I know what I'm talking about. Real quickly on Brady, too, we haven't talked about any other teams. We've talked about the Chargers and the Bucks. The 49ers did say no, apparently, over the weekend. You know, but, I mean, would you completely discount the 49ers? What about the Bears? Bears are, I think, would be the interesting dark ones, and maybe the Panthers now. But the Panthers aren't ready to win now.
Starting point is 01:03:25 There's a writer. There's a writer in Boston I've heard on the radio. I think it's Ben Valenny, right, for the globe. He always think that the Panthers were the place that made the most sense because you have a new owner there who's trying to make a big splash. and you have a new progressive young coach there who obviously could be easily controlled by Brady. So the Panthers are an interesting choice.
Starting point is 01:03:52 The Panthers don't have the same chance to contend for a Super Bowl that the Chargers and the Bucks do. But look at the offensive weapons they've got. Well, I do. After Christian McCaffrey. I know, but DJ Moore is not Mike Evans. he's not he's not godwin he's not keen and allen you know and and they they have mcalfrey um and you know and they've got an unproven college coach you know anthony lynn's done a decent job
Starting point is 01:04:25 in l.A. I know, but you're scoffing at that Aaron. That college coach is considered an offensive genius. Yeah, he is. He's, well, Matt rules a defensive guy. but he's considered a very innovative guy. And I, you know, the Chicago thing is, I'm just trying to think. It's Tark Cohen. It's the guy from Iowa State, the running back that they drafted last year that they loved. David Montgomery.
Starting point is 01:05:00 David Montgomery. It is Alan Robinson. It's also the guy from Memphis that I love Anthony Miller, who I think actually is going to be a really good player. It's Trey Burton, who. actually is a pretty good pass-catching tight end. But again, you're not talking, now defensively, the Bears have a shot, but you're not talking about the Chargers of the Bucks roster, I don't think. And the Bears, the Bears are a mess.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I mean, you know, I mean, the way they've operated the past couple years, they picked the wrong quarterback. I wouldn't have a lot of confidence in them as an organization. I also don't think the Chicago Bears could afford. Oh, because, yeah, right. They also just signed a player. They signed, um... They signed Mark, uh, where did Marriota land?
Starting point is 01:05:49 Robert Quinn. Oh, they signed Robert Quinn, right. Did Marietta end up in Oakland? Yes. Okay. Uh, all right. Not Oakland, L.A. Vegas.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Yeah. God. What's going to be harder to get used to? The Chargers in L.A. or the Raiders in Vegas? Oh, I think the Raiders. I mean, you know, hell, I said the Oakland Raiders the whole time they were in L.A. I think a lot of people did. I think I finally got used to calling him the L.A. Raiders. Las Vegas Raiders. I think the, I mean, the Chargers, and that's been a tough one to get used to over the years.
Starting point is 01:06:28 The Raiders are making, you know, a third move here. It's Oakland, L.A., and now Vegas. Yeah. All right. Wanted to get to what the Redskins did. do yesterday. They, first of all, brought Kendall Fuller back. They're paying him four years, $40 million, $10 million per year, according to the reports. He was obviously part of the deal that brought Alex Smith here. I'm not going to be a revisionist historian here and tell you that that was a dumb deal because I was in favor of the Alex Smith deal. I was not in favor of the contract extension, but I was okay with Alex Smith coming here. I like Alex Smith. I always did like Alex Smith in Kansas
Starting point is 01:07:07 city. What I didn't consider, what I said at the time is they better get a running game because Alex Smith will not succeed without a running game. And they didn't necessarily, although Adrian Peterson really helped out, but he was not a good fit for Jay Gruden. You know, Bruce Allen made that trade, you know, without a lot of input. He had the ability to do that. And like, you know, with Josh Norman, it was sort of a square peg into a round hole. But, you know, Kendall Fuller leaving was a big miss. Kendall Fuller, do you know, had the high. according to the pro football focus or whatever it was, was the highest rated defensive player in the Super Bowl this past Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:07:45 I like Kendall Fuller. The Redskins needed a corner. They clearly didn't want to pay Byron Jones $16 million a year or James Bradbury, $15 million a year. And maybe they knew that neither one of those two players would come here anyway. Bradbury was the one that people thought could come here because he was a Carolina Panther who played for Rivera. I love Fuller coming back.
Starting point is 01:08:05 I think he can play on the outside. many of you have tweeted me. I think he can play on the outside, but obviously he was a very, very effective, you know, slot corner. I think what you have now at corner for the Redskins is you've got Moreau and Dunbar on the outside. I don't think they're going to let Dunbar go. Okay, they're going to force Dunbar to play on that deal if they don't give him an extension. So you've got Moreau and Dunbar on the outside, and you have Fuller on the inside. I mean, that's what they're going to more likely than not have defensively. Do they need another corner? Maybe. Do they need another safety? Yes. You know, had they addressed needs? Or did they?
Starting point is 01:08:46 Well, they signed some dude West Schweitzer. I've never heard of him. Okay. I know other than what I read, you know, that he's versatile. He can play guard. He can play center. They gave him three years, 13 and a half million. He played in Atlanta. And when they lost Eric Flowers, which, by the way, old Franco, Remember the tweet Franco ripped me for when the reports came out from, I don't know, was it Julie or somebody else that said they were going to sign Eric Flowers? I forget who it was. I wasn't right about Cleveland. I will grant you that.
Starting point is 01:09:17 But 10 million bucks the Redskins didn't want to match. They did offer him $8 million, according to J.P. Finley. Good for Flowers, as an aside. Wow. His career was over a year from now. And the Redskins gave him a chance to play guard. and Callahan obviously did a good job teaching him how to play guard, and now the dude's going home to South Florida at $10 million a year.
Starting point is 01:09:42 That is really quite the turnaround story. You know, from all-time first-round bust, not all-time, but as a first-round bust to maybe a really solid, if not better-than-average guard in the NFL. And then the Redskins re-signed John Bostic. I liked Bostick. I came in here on Mondays and told you I thought Bostic had played well the day before. He's smart. He's a coach on the field.
Starting point is 01:10:07 He's a leader. That's what Rivera is looking for. And personally, I think he's more athletic and better and runs better than most people out there think. I think it's also an indication that they're really not sure on Rubin Foster. But it was not a lot of money, so they still could go out and sign a guy like Corey Littleton, although I don't expect them to. but you still hear Tommy have, okay, a potential left tackle need, if you trade Trent Williams, a quarterback need. You have more playmakers on offense, including tight end, and they
Starting point is 01:10:43 obviously wanted a big name wide receiver. I would not sign Eric Ebron. He's not the guy. He's not the right guy. And then defensively, they still are going to need a safety and probably another corner. And they're going to draft Chase Young, is my guess. I hope that, missing out on Cooper and potentially trading Trent Williams, which hasn't happened yet, I hope it doesn't influence what they do at number two, meaning I hope they don't feel more compelled to trade back to address needs and pass on a player and a talent, maybe a generational talent, like Chase Young. So there's no package to trade back that would change your mind?
Starting point is 01:11:28 I would be all ears. I'd listen to everything. So there's obviously a package. I mean, but you'd have to really give up, you know, a boatload. Like you'd have to, you know, just thinking about the draft, you know, you'd have to get Miami's, you know, obviously Miami at five. You'd have to get Miami at 18. You'd have to get Miami second. You'd have to get Miami's next year's first. Yeah, I'm not moving off a generational player unless I've got the chance to draft.
Starting point is 01:12:00 some really good players and lots of them hoping to hit on two of them that equal Chase Young. I would listen, but I think that, you know, I think Chase Young could be a massive difference maker for them on defense. I think he would solve a lot of problems. I agree, and I think Ron Rivera probably thinks the same thing, which is why when I connect the dots, I don't see how a defensive guy like Ron Rivera is going to pass on a generational defensive talent.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I just don't see it. I don't see it either, really. I don't see it either. I think that ultimately... This is like John Elway getting a chance to draft a generational quarterback. Whether he needs it or not, he's not going to pass. Ron Rivera has been a linebacker, a linebacker's coach played linebacker and one of the best defenses in the history of the league.
Starting point is 01:12:53 You've got to pass on Chase Young? I don't think so. I don't think so. I mean, you know, I had a friend of mine who's a coach, text me something last night, and he said, you know, I've listened to you on Chase Young, and the guy is clearly a major talent. But he said he didn't like that he didn't work out at the combine, which, by the way, is not unusual anymore. And he said, watch the tape over and over again. He doesn't have the same motor that Bosa has. And look, the Bosa's Joey and Nick Bosa
Starting point is 01:13:23 have relentless energy, it seems like. And there are people that say, you know, if Chase Young didn't get to the quarterback. He's not chasing people down. I saw a guy with a motor when I watched most of the time. But I don't know, I saw a guy that had multiple moves, had quick twitch, and we'll make a defense have to game plan for him, and will still end up, you know, getting the numbers that he should get. That's what I saw. Plus, everything from a dude. He's not going to be the only guy in the field. You got Montes sweat that obviously will benefit from his presence. So, yeah, that front seven of the Redskins defense is a good place for him to be. Yeah, agreed.
Starting point is 01:14:06 All right. Did we forget anything? Real quick before we go off. Colts are finalizing a deal with Philip Rivers, and Panthers are closing in on Teddy Bridgewater. Okay. So Rivers is going to play. He's not going to be in the Monday night booth, it would appear.
Starting point is 01:14:19 He'll play in Indianapolis. You know, they're well-coached, Frank Reich. They've got some talent for sure. What about Peret back to New England? They liked Peret. It's interesting. I mean, that's not the... I liked to Peret.
Starting point is 01:14:38 He didn't play as well as I thought he would last year. Tommy, what else you got? I got nothing else, boss. I'm about to go back into hibernation. I got one more thing real quickly. The trade that the Colts and the 49ers made yesterday, I found to be a really interesting trade. because Buckner can really, really play.
Starting point is 01:15:00 But I think the 49ers wanted 13 overall to put another major weapon offensively out there for Garoppolo. Who knows? Maybe it's for Brady. And they're going to have a chance to get one of those great receivers at 13, which means that this lukewarm response to Manuel Sanders and resigning him, and I know he's 32 years old going on 33, But it means he's available, and if the Redskins are looking for a veteran-wide receiver to go with McLaren and Harmon and Stephen Sims, you could do a lot worse than Emmanuel Sanders.
Starting point is 01:15:35 And he's not going to require anywhere near, you know, at top of the market deal. He's a mid-market deal guy because of his age. So that's something to keep an eye on. When I saw that trade, I was thinking the 49ers are parting with a really good defensive player because they're not and they're not re-signing Emmanuel Sanders, at least they haven't so far, and they want to get a guy like Jerry Judy, or they want to get a guy like C.D. Lamb, or they want to get a guy like Jefferson or Rugs to put out there. Because Sanders was pretty damn productive last year for the 49ers in their Super Bowl run,
Starting point is 01:16:13 and their run to the Super Bowl's NFC champions. The Redskins, if they want to judge what they've got in, Wayne Haskins this year. They better get them some weapons. Yeah, and we're all excited about McClorn and Sims and Harmon. Don't get me wrong, but, you know, they're looking for more. They're looking for something else. Or maybe they're looking for that something else for Cam. Again, I'm just looking on Twitter right here. Now it's Kelvin Harmon. Kelvin Harmon just put out a tweet. And he says, Cam can, I'll come down and pick you up and drive you up to D.C. It's only a four and a half hour drive.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Oh, Dwayne, just stay off social media, please. But they won't. They won't. You know what, actually, it's more important for those young people today, Tommy, to not infect anybody. That's more, stay on social media all you want. Just don't go to a gathering of more than 10 people. Did you see the spring breakers down in Clearwater, Florida?
Starting point is 01:17:14 I know. I know. I know. I mean, they take their life in their hands every day. when they're at spring break. I think you, and I think I feel this way about myself, too. We would have been pretty hard to talk out of spring break if we were 20 years old right now. Oh, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:17:32 I mean, impossible. Yeah. I mean, given what I've seen and what I've done during that time, yeah. Life was not a precious commodity. No. I was at Mardi Gras one year with strep throat and a fever of like 102. And Tommy, I made it through the whole weekend. And you know what the answer was during that weekend?
Starting point is 01:17:54 Just drink more. Now, come on, you're fine. Just drink this. Yeah. Oh, one last thing. Yeah. I wanted to share something with you. A bizarre thing last night.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Do you remember your dreams? Sometimes. Okay, I usually don't. I mean, sometimes, yeah. But last night, I had a dream that I was hanging out in a hotel bar with Larry Hagan. The guy from I dream of Pini. In Dallas. He played Tony Nelson and Dallas.
Starting point is 01:18:28 And he was trash in the place. I mean, he's throwing bottles around and glasses around. Right. And I'm trying to calm him down. Larry Hagman. Is he alive? I don't know. Where does that come from?
Starting point is 01:18:41 I don't know. I have no idea. He's dead. He died in 2012. Oh, I was hanging out with him at a hotel bar and he was out of control. Was he, I dream of Jeannie's husband, Tony Nelson, or was he the Dallas, Larry Hagman? Because the Dallas, Larry Hagman was a bad dude. No, he would see Tony Nelson.
Starting point is 01:19:01 He was? Yeah. Yeah, it's the only one I know. I never watched now. Is Barbara Eden still alive? I think she is. But I didn't dream of Barbara Eden. That's her name, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:13 I dreamt about, you know, Larry Hagman. I dream a genie was a great show. I did not watch Dallas. I was a bewitch the guy more than I dream of a change. Which was better. Yeah, Elizabeth Montgomery. Elizabeth Montgomery was, I think, hotter than Barbara Eat. I agree with that.
Starting point is 01:19:30 I completely agree with that. I never really watched Dallas. Neither did I, or Dynasty. Yeah, I didn't watch TV in the 80s, you know? I didn't. Not really. The TV in the 80s. The TV in the 80s.
Starting point is 01:19:48 And LA law, maybe, that's it. Well, the Thursday night lineup. of Cosby, followed by family ties, followed by Cheers, followed by Nightcourt. It was a pretty good Thursday night lineup in the 80s. I do remember that. Yeah, it was. I love Cheers. Love it. Yes, great stuff. All right, we're done for the day. Bye everybody. Back tomorrow.

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