The Kevin Sheehan Show - Spokane, Sambuca, Soto & Scott (Boras)

Episode Date: July 21, 2022

Kevin and Thom today on topics ranging from Thom's Spokane airport bar confrontation to Chris Walken, Nathalie Wood, and Sambuca. They talked Juan Soto, Scott Boras, Chase Young, Carson Wentz, and the Orioles-Brewers' season-ending series in 1982 among many things. Just listen! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Chean Show. Here's Kevin. Tommy's here. Back from the Spokane round trip. I am here.

This Tom email from Fat Boy McStuffin, who gave us five stars for the podcast, entitled his review, Bring Back the Fake Chris Walkin. Yeah, we could do that one day. We certainly know who's, the voice of the fake Chris Walken is. He's a very good friend of both of ours. Poor Joe White. We did get him that day, didn't we? This is what... I wasn't part of that. I was on my Wyoming trip

when you guys pulled that off. I mean, that's, that's legendary. That is legendary. I mean, that's all the fame material right there. I feel like we've, we just did the Christopher Walken, Natalie Wood thing recently on the podcast. Do we need to tell that story again? Maybe. Let me, let me read the email from Fat Boy McStuffin. I must be nuts to continue listening to this. I did a brief stop in Baltimore in 2011, 2012, and found these guys on the FM dial at lunch one day. Yeah, remember we were on that FM station 92.3 FM,

which was kind of a, it was super strong in PG County, Howard County, and up almost into Baltimore. He writes, I've been in upstate New York for over a decade now and still listen to these guys. This despite having no rooting interest in any of the local teams regularly covered. It must be Tom's stories about Southwest Airlines or Kevin's rants about Ratface Snyder that keep me coming back. Sheehan, what are you waiting for? Watch the wire today. Thank you.

Thank you, Fat Boy, McStuff. And for one of my favorite intros to a review that we've read in some time, I must be nuts to continue listening to this. Yeah, you know, there was a time that the station, we were on 980 a.m. We were on a night, this FM that really was very strong in Prince George's County, Howard County, even up to Baltimore. By the way, 980 was always very strong up into Baltimore. You and I together at one point we rated very well in Baltimore, which was crazy. Absolutely.

But it was because... My son who lives in Baltimore used to have many friends there who would say, your dad's Tom Leverro? We used to hear that all the time up in Baltimore. Even though we were a D.C. sports talk show, I know for a fact that there was a time during our seven and a half years together where we were consistently, And the primary demo that radio employers care about, which is for sports talk, men 25 to 54. That's always the demo that you get rated, you get, you know, you get bonus on, not the overall audience size, but men 25 to 54.

And there was a stretch there where we were consistently for our day part in the top five of men 25 to 54 in Baltimore. Now, we were always, there was like, you know, five out of the seven and a half years, you and I together were consistently in the top five, if not top three, in the D.C. market for men 25 to 54 during our midday slot. You know, the middays, I mean, look, you and I both like to think we did a really good show together. But the truth is middays just didn't provide the same level of competition that morning. drive or afternoon drive. WTOP, which is the behemoth radio station in the market, you know, all news, you know, WTOP, is the, I think it is still the biggest revenue generating radio station in America. It is the number one revenue generating radio station by far in the market. And it gets listened to by more people than any other station.

in the mornings and in the evenings, drives in, looking for traffic and weather and the news headlines, traffic and weather in particular, and in the afternoon. So we never dealt with that because we used to beat a TOP on occasion in the midday. For men 25 to 54, anyway. But yeah, that's funny.

The Christopher Walkin thing is simply put, we had, you know, our good friend Mark Stern, who was our producer for many years. Mark is also, by the way, a stand-up comic. Mark did a great Christopher Walken. We did it as a bit for years where he would be Christopher Walken calling in on Fridays during football season to give his fantasy football picks. And we made it out that Chris was a massive Redskins fan, had been his entire life and would all... Sometimes he would call in from the Walk in Winnebago. He would call in from the Walken, Winnebago on the way to either FedEx Field

or wherever the road game was being played. And it was crazy because Mark was so good at the impersonation that I would say 50% of the people listening bought it hook, line, and sinker, that it was actually Christopher Walken. We heard it all the day. time. It's amazing that you guys have Christopher Walken, you know, calling into your show every week. I had no idea. It was a big Redskin. And you and I, we would just go along with it. I mean, unless it was somebody really close to us and then we'd have to say, yeah, it's not real.

You know, don't, you know. Anyway, long story short, one of these particular Christopher Walken days and you weren't there, you were at Wyoming. He goes into this whole thing because there was news about the Natalie Wood passing. Christopher Walken was. was on, you know, that boat that day. And there's always been a lot of suspicious stuff that went on with her disappearance and passing way back in, what, 1977-3 or something like that? I forget what year it was. Anyway, he just said, I just remember, and I got to get this right,

I just remember a lot of laughs, a lot of Zambuca, and then a lot of shouting and screaming or something like that. Neal and Rockville would remember specifically what the line was. And the next thing we knew, she was gone. And Joe White, one of the really great guys who covered the team, Tommy, for decades, right, for the Associated Press? Yeah, he was the Washington, top Washington AP sports writer. Terrific guy. Yeah.

So he was listening to the bit, thinking it was a real bit. And he wrote about it or tweeted it out that Christopher Walken just went on ESPN 980 and had some things to say about the Natalie Wood situation. 1981, by the way, it was 1981. Here's the quote, because all you got to do people is Google. Google, Christopher Walken, Natalie Wood, and then ESPN 980. The stories that went viral about this were incredible because Joe White wrote about it on the AP, so everybody assumed that he had it right. The Associated Press on Friday quoted ESPN 980 delivering recollections of actress Natalie

Woods' 1981 death. Quote, we had a lot to drink that night. There was Sambuca, there was shouting, and then there was tragedy. That's all I can remember. And quite frankly, all my attorney right now would want me to say, close quote.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, by the way, this was all surrounding, you know, I think I'm going to start Adrian Peterson this week on my fantasy team. And I'm in my win-up and I'll be in the parking lot in the orange lot at 11 a.m. ready for the one o'clock game

against the Eagles. So it was all of this just nonsense. But Joe bought it hook, line, and sinker, and the thing went viral. And all I remember is Chuck, our program director, saying, what just happened? The phone lines are lighting up. They want you guys to go on CNN, MSNBC, Fox, all of them were calling in, and we had to tell them it was fake. It's a bit that we do every week. It really was incredible. Like, Google it right now. Just Google that.

The stories are everywhere. November 18th, 2011 is when we did it. Yeah, it was something. I'm reading about it on my phone, you know, 2,000 miles away in Wyoming while this is going on. Yeah. Yeah, it was, I mean, I'm looking at this. I would love to get, I would love to get Christopher Walking on the podcast. I miss that time. We can do that. We'll do that soon. I'm writing it down right now. Okay. Walk in, and oh, by the way, Brian from the DC Podcast Association, we still have to get on. Yes, yeah, yeah. But, you know, Tommy, as I'm Googling this, I mean, everybody reported on this. The Hollywood reporter's got a big.

big picture of Christopher Wacken in a big story titled Natalie Wood Death Christopher Wacken radio interview a hoax. This was you know after they figured it out. I mean CNN, ABC

com, Reuters, everybody had it. It just, it went completely viral like minutes after it happened. Crazy. And there's a whole story. You know, Stern ended up doing a bunch of interviews on the whole thing.

Like he did interviews with, you know, here he is ad week, the Blaze, Yahoo. It was nuts. I mean, it was so crazy. Don't forget to rate us and review us, especially on Apple and Spotify. Five stars is great. It's awesome. And if you can write a quick review like Fat Boy McStuffin did, we will, We're much appreciative, and we would like to read them on the air as well.

Anyway, so how was your trip to Spokane, you know, getting your granddaughter? Well, you know, I mean, these days, and particularly what I went through in April with our trip to Universal Studios, you're always fearful of flying, you know, planes being canceled, flights being canceled. But it went relatively smooth. My flight out there went perfect. The flight back, it looked like when we were in Denver that we were going to run into a situation because the flight got delayed like a couple, few hours, four, five. I got flight delayed a couple of times.

and it kept getting, and I'm thinking, oh, I know what they do, they play this out until it disappears, you know? Yeah. But all of a sudden, then it got moved back up. So we were only delayed like an hour and a half from when we were supposed to leave, which I thought was like a gift. Right. You know? Yeah. We were supposed to leave at 7 o'clock.

We left at 8.30. I was elated, you know, that we did. So I would say my relationship with Southwest is still as strong as it's ever been. That's good. Well, they made some things right. Yes. And in Spokane, I stayed one night at an airport hotel that I've stayed at before, and apparently it seemed better days. But, I mean, I was in good shape because, you know, my plan was to go to the bar to sit down

to watch the All-Star game, which was about to start by the time I got. to the hotel. So I sit at the bar. I mean, the bar is empty. There's a couple people in a restaurant. Was your granddaughter with you at that point? No, no, no. I don't get her till the next morning.

Got it. Okay. So I sit at the bar and I order a beer and I asked the bartender if he could put on the All-Star game. And he looked at me like I had two heads. And he starts telling me how hard it is to change the channel on the TV. Oh, boy. And he's messing with the remote.

and he's not really doing anything, and he's whining about having to change the channel. And I can't really find it. I said it's on Fox. I said it's on Fox. It's a big network. You can find it. And he's messing with the remote, and he's whining some more. And I just flipped out.

I just, I went, I overreacted and went ballistic. Okay. What happened? I mean, I just flown like five hours across. the country. And I'm yelling at this guy for being an idiot, and nobody should ever let you behind the bar. If you can't do something simple, it's worked at TV at your bar, I'm just flipping out. You know? And it got to the point where they had to bring in somebody else to work the remote to figure out how to do it. Did you ask him if he could hand the remote to you so you could

figured out. That happens with me every once in a while, and I'll be like, no, no, hit me the remote and I'll figure it out. You go, you do your job and tend to the customers here at the bar. Well, there were no other customers with me. I thought it was unprofessional and aggravating. I mean, for a bartender, I have certain expectations. Look, I've spent a few years in a bar here and there, and I have certain expectations of a bartender. and being able to put on the sporting event that you want to watch is one of them. Okay? And I just flipped and I'm yelling at this guy.

And when things calm down, he wouldn't serve me then. Really? I got served, but he wouldn't serve me. A waitress came and served me. Who I took care of very, very nicely on the other end. I want to know exactly. So I stayed there for three and a half hours. hours drinking at the bar while this bartender who I had reamed out and wouldn't serve me was

working behind the bar the whole time. So it's, you know, it's late afternoon when you are sitting down there, right? Because it's West Coast time. Yeah, it's like 5 o'clock. Yeah. And, okay, early evening. And this guy may have, you know, been on for a little while, but he's probably working until it closes, you know, which I'm going to guess is probably about nine at the airport,

something like that. Yes. So you've caught him. You know, his shift probably isn't ending. Did you have, in your initial confrontation, and by the way, I completely agree with you, and I've been in those situations before, it's like, are you serious? I'm the customer here. Like, I understand you're busy. And the remote's hard, and you got it on the station you want. Was he watch, was, you know, well, you were the only person at the bar. Whenever I ask someone at a bar, which, by the way, I've been to a few of them as well,

Whenever I want the station changed, I'll always ask the bartender and even people at the bars, anybody watching what's on here, right? I mean, you're not going to just come in and say switch into this one when people are sitting there watching there. Absolutely. Yeah. And so, you know, that's one thing. But many times I find it's weird because bartenders are the ones typically, unless it's like the manager, or they've got somebody in the restaurant that's really good at handling, you know,

Oh, they want the Nats game. Yeah, that's on Masson, you know, Masson 1. I'll get it. It's 844 on our, whatever. Sometimes the bartenders don't. But I have several times said, I know where it is, give me the remote. Is this DirecTV or what is it? And then I'll be able to find it.

And you keep working. But this guy, it sounds like had a toad right from the beginning. Like he wasn't, you know, it was too. He was too. He was pissed. I was bothering him. Right. And, and, oh, and it's just the whining and tell me how he couldn't

do it. I just didn't want to hear that. He could, you know? Right. I didn't want to hear that, and I just went ballistic on the guy. So how did the ballistic part start? Well, the second time, you know, when I said it's on Fox, and he's fumbling with the remote, and he says, you know, I can't really find it now. And when he said, I can't really find it now, I just said, this is, I screamed. I said, this is bullshit. You're a bartender. You can't tell me, you can't put on the sporting event I want to watch.

I mean, what are you some kind of, I call him a moron. Oh, God. So that was the first part of it, moron? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I flipped out. I'm telling you, you know, I'm surprised he didn't come over to bar after me. Was he capable of coming over the bar at you?

No. Oh, absolutely not. So that made it, that empowered you and your anger even more, I'm sure. Like you looked at this guy and said he's not really a threat? I don't think that made a difference at that point. I was seeing red. Okay. You know?

And you didn't try to work through it a little bit. I might have backed off if it was somebody formidable. But at that moment, I didn't care if it was Joe Jacoby back there. I was pissed off, you know. So they brought in somebody who worked the remote. Who brought in? He did. He called somebody, right?

No, the waitress called somebody because this guy wouldn't have anything to do with me anymore. So he went and got the waitress. The waitress came over, and I explained to her what was happening, and she got somebody to come in and find the game, you know, and I was a happy camper. Did he even try the next couple hours? Did he even try with the remote to switch? Did he switch the channels around at all? Did he search at all?

No, he couldn't even figure out how to. search, he said. Oh, my God. Well, he was a total adult. I said, it's probably at the lower end of your cable system here, like probably the first 10 or 12 channels somewhere, you know. It's a big network, I said. May I've heard of it? And I just, yeah. So I just flipped out. And I watched the game and I enjoyed the game. And but, uh, now did you, how did you handle the tip at the end of the night. Oh, I gave the wage. Look, I'm a pretty generous tipper if I think you deserve it. And I'm not going to say how much I tip, but it was more than what most people would think would be a good tip. Tell me what you tipped. What was your, what percent tip did you get?

Okay, I tipped 30 percent. Yeah, okay, that's a good tip. Yeah. When you're sitting there for three, when you're sitting there for three and a half hours and you end up, you know, having somebody it's doing a great job. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's definitely in kind of the, I mean,

you're at a higher level than I am, you know, especially with the friends that you keep. But I, but no, no, that's, that's,

that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, uh, acceptable. Um,

I think I've told you this before, you know, I've been to Spokane twice, I think. Rosars is a supermarket chain in Spokane. Um, there, For years, I don't know where they are now in market share.

And for all I know, you know, they were bought by somebody. I don't think it's there anymore. I don't recall seeing it. Okay. Maybe Albertson's bottom or some big, you know, West Coast chain, bought them. But it was... George is a big one out there. It was Rosars, supermarkets.

And I went out there for two different meetings with them. And the reason I remember these meetings specifically is the first time I went to Spokane, I got in late the night before my meeting the next morning, and there was a blinding snowstorm that we flew in and landed during. And I'll never forget that. Because to this day, other than heavy rains and thunderstorms and all that stuff, on a flight, I've been on a flight where I've landed and it's been snowing. But this was a blinding snowstorm where the runway was not plowed. And so we landed and snow just is flying up and engulfing the plane. And I remember thinking, oh my God, how to, and it was a smooth landing.

There was nothing wrong with the landing. In fact, there really wasn't any issue approaching other than, you know, the, probably the pilot saying something like, there's some snow in Spokane. they're expecting a lot of it and could be a little bumpy on the descent but strap in will be good but I'll never forget

that landing and then I don't know the name I can't remember the hotel but it was a downtown hotel and you know how much I love snow I opened up those windows and I just watched it snow for much of the night because it was a blinding snowstorm they ended up with a foot

and of course then I'm thinking well my meeting's not going to happen the next day. But it did. Those people were there, and I got there too, but they had a foot plus of snow that night. And Spokane, for those of you that don't know the state of Washington, Tommy will tell you this, is in the far eastern part of the state, where Seattle is in the far western part of the state. Yeah. I mean, Idaho is just a stone throw away from Spokane. Right. Okay. So let's start with. So everything else was good. And was she happy to see you and spend time with you on a long flight

and looking forward to spending time with everybody here over the next few days? You know what? She was a very good flying partner. Good. Good. Did you tell her this story about what happened at the bar? No. No, I did not.

She doesn't need to know that her grandfather is a raving lunatic, although she's probably, probably figured it out. All right. So we've had a couple of days here since we've talked about Juan Soto, and you've written about it, and your position very, very absolutely is trade him. And that's your position because, you know, essentially you can describe why. You think they should trade him because... I don't think he's signable.

I think pretty much unless you give them a ridiculous, pie in the sky offer. And even then, I think that Scott Boris is determined to take him to free agency that he's not signable. He's not signable for the nationals. He's not signable for the team he's going to be traded to. Unless it's a Steve Cohen outlier situation. I mean, you know, he can't predict what that guy who has no qualms about spending his

own money will do. But, and, you know, I, I, I. I've seen that John Marosi from Fox is reporting that, like I said, I think there's a real good chance he gets traded before the trading deadline, like now. Yeah, that seems to be kind of the lean from everybody covering the sport. By the way, I had Tim Kirchen on the podcast two days ago. He was so good. And his sense is that he's going to be traded as well,

that there's just no working it out. And I don't know that I asked you this question the other day, but I'll ask it because I asked him this. You know, what does it say if Juan Soto gets traded? Let's just say you're right. He gets traded and he gets traded now. I mean, what a shocker, right? I mean, a week ago, if I had said to you,

hey, they're going to trade Juan Soto before the trade deadline this summer, you would have said, you're insane. You don't know what you're talking about. This is how quickly things change. But what does it say, Tommy, about Washington? that they've had two in the last 10 years, two of the all-time position player talents, generational talents, and neither one of them ended up staying. Well, it speaks to the lack of vision and commitment in some ways by the owners, the learners.

In order to get a talent like Juan Soto, you've got to recognize it in maybe the second year tops that this guy is special and you want to do everything you can to keep them. Not in the fifth year. You know, not in the fourth year. You've got to recognize it before the train has left the station. Sort of like I think the Braves have done with Akuna,

who I think it's signed for like six years, or something like that. Rizzo knew he was special. Yeah, but Rizzo is not the owner. He doesn't, it's not his money. Okay? It's not his money. It's the learner's money.

And, I mean, for this, for them to offer him this now, it's progress for this team because they waited for Harper until, and again, with Harper, it may not have mattered what they offered him. He was going to be go to free agency as well. Okay.

was going to do it. You know, and I think it's the same thing with Soto. But you've got to catch this early for something like this. You've got to be able to get lucky and say, wow, you know, we want this guy here beyond his arbitration years. So let's give him a 10-year deal, which will at least give four years beyond arbitration. We'll still give him a chance to become a free agent if he wants to, in the middle of the of the peak of his career.

But we'll have him for 10 years instead of six. You probably couldn't have done that with Harper, right? The hype around Harper from day one was different than it was for Soto. Yeah, I mean, Juan Soto was an undrafted free agent out of the Dominican Republic. And the first time we really saw him was in a spring training game for the nationals, a year before he wound up getting called up. Bryce Harper was on the cover of Sports Illustrated when he was 16 years old. Yeah.

Everybody knew about Bryce Harper. It was no secret. I think, well, I think that's true. I mean, you know, one of the things, not that it's anywhere near apples to apples, I'm not suggesting that because one is, you know, the best player, best hitter in baseball and was an extremely talented player to begin with. But you as an organization in these sports where there is free agency, you have to have some vision when you have a player that you know better than anybody else, and maybe everybody else doesn't know.

And maybe even they're not sure about what they're going to be when they get to free agency. And in football, you know, with the Redskins, it's one of the things I said from the beginning. You have to have vision on a guy like Kirk Cousins. You may not think he's going to turn into Aaron Rogers or Tom Brady. Nobody does. But you haven't had a legitimate top half, top 12-ish kind of starting quarterback in your franchise forever. And now you've got a guy who's coming off a good season and a playoff season, and there's still some question marks.

You've got to have the vision to say, I need him locked up. And we're going to go market value, not low ball. We're going to go maybe market value or a little bit of. above so that he'll take the deal. And then, you know, but they, they didn't have that kind of vision. And in this case, I think Rizzo did have the vision, because I remember Juan Soto when they lost, when Mike Rizzo, when they lost Harper, him saying kind of in many ways, it's okay. We've got Juan Soto, you know?

Yeah. So he always knew. You know, have you walked outside today? I know it's hot, right? It's brutal today. I have not walked outside. Okay. It's brutal.

And the one thing that I think this Soto thing also suggests to me, I just think that some, I think we live here. We think it's a great place to live. We think it's a great place to raise a family, you know, when you get to a certain age. There's a lot about my hometown and the city in which I live that, you know, I think, you know, basically one-ups a lot of places, most places. But for young 23-year-olds and 24-year-olds, you know, you walk out on a day like today where it's 97 and oppressive humidity, and it's not such a great place to be in the summertime when you have a lot of money.

It'd be much better to be in Los Angeles. Be a lot better to be in Chicago. Now, or Boston. Oh, I don't know about Chicago. Well, not Chicago. It gets pretty hot, too. Not like here, not in terms of humidity. And, you know, this is a kid from the Dominican Republic.

I'm thinking the heat is not going to bother them. It's not just the weather. I know. It's the, you know, it's not L.A. or New York. I just think he's why. I think the organization, I think he had a good relationship with people in the organization. Remember, there was this story last year, and I can't explain how this all happens, where the nationals have set in place a deal for when his younger brother, Ilyan Soto,

is eligible to be signed as a 16-year-old out of the Dominican. They're going to sign him as a free age as well. So they have a deal in place, it was reported last year, to sign his younger brother. So, I mean, that would indicate that Juan Soto must have liked this organization, must have liked the people in the organization. So he wouldn't have probably encouraged his brother to make such a commitment at this point. I don't know how good his brother is even. Okay, I don't know anything about him other than that. Although I think that was his brother who was with him at the home run derby.

Right. wearing a Soto jersey. Right, I'm assuming that was his younger brother, because that would be about the age, you know, about 15 or so. So I think Soto like the people in the organization, like Mike Rizzo, like the other people in the organization, but he's Ted Williams. And if Scott Bores had Ted Williams,

he's going to take him to free agency. Because even if the nationals give him, a deal that is just an offer that you can't refuse, you know, you put him in a bidding war, and that offer gets beat. Right now, you only have one bidder if you're Scott Boris. You want a lot of bidder. I understand that point. So whatever seems attractive now could be diminished by the time he's a free agent.

Yeah, but you just said something that Tim said the other day. He's Ted Williams. I mean, how do you trade Ted Williams? You've got two and a half years left of Ted Williams. You know, it's funny. The Yankees talked about trading Joe DiMaggio for Ted Williams. That never happened. But you're not going to get Joe DiMaggio if you trade Juan Soto.

It's difficult. But if I'm buying the nationals and I'm an informed, a prospective buyer, I know that no matter how much provado I walk in that door and say, I'm going to sign this guy, that that's probably not going to happen. And then I'm

going to have to be the owner, the new owner, who watches Juan Soto leave town. No thank you. I'll take a team with a low payroll filled with young, promising talent, and then I'll build it. Yeah, but the chances that

that, you know, promising young talent in the aggregate is going to exceed what Juan Soto is, is it very high? Well, exceed Wonsoto. They finished. This will be their third year and last place with Wonsoto. I understand that. I do. I understand.

I mean, the idea is to win as a team. Right. I don't know. I don't know what the right answer is. I don't want to see him go. He's a terrific young man. He's making a lot of dumb public reliance. mistakes right now under the influence of, you know, the evil one, Boris.

But he's a terrific young man with a good heart and really good intentions. And he has laser-type focus, Kevin. He can block all this out and perform. I mean, tremendous focus. I get it. I guess I don't have, you know, a really strong opinion because I'm not really sure what they could get back from the Lodres or the Yankees or the Phillies or the Mets. I wouldn't trade them in the division, I don't think.

But I guess if I had a stronger sense as to what was coming back and the potential of that, it would be easier to make, to have an opinion. I just hear you and I hear Tim Kirchon. I hear everybody say Ted Williams and I still have Ted Williams under contract for two and a half years. I don't know. Tim said to me the other day when I asked him this, he said, at some point, point down the road, Juan Soto and Bryce Harper are both going to be Hall of Fame players,

and this organization would have lost both of them along the way. And that's really going to be tough to deal with, especially if the results from them leaving. And I know they won the World Series the year after Bryce Harper left. We understand that. But like after this one, if they go years and years and they're not a contender for a while, and you have suggested to me that they could contend next year and in two years they're really going to contend? Well, you feel differently about that after he gets traded, right? It depends. It really depends. Why can't you turn around and put together a free agency team with some of these young talent that you've got? Okay.

Look, Kevin, here's the one caveat. They don't have to trade him. Right. Okay. If they don't get the deal that they really want, if they don't get what they're looking for, then they can keep them and we'll see what happens in the winter. Right. And... Okay? So I agree. I mean, we don't know what the deal would be, but I would say you don't trade him unless you get a deal that you can live with. Yeah. And there's always the thing where you're like, okay, well, like, let's ride this out. No one's going to be able to sign him. Everybody's going to have the risk. I understand, by the way,

and this is, you know, obvious that if you trade him now, the value, values the highest because somebody, if they're a contender, is going to have them for three post seasons rather than, you know, trading them after the season's over and it's two or in two years and, you know, they only have them for one year. Anyway, all right, I wanted to get to what you kind of alluded to, which is the terrible public relations job that Scott Boris is involved in. I saw what you tweeted out about, and I talked about this yesterday, the Nats, you know, Scott Bors took a shot at the Nats for not chartering a flight for Juan Soto to fly out on. and you tweeted out that this is collectively bargain that the MLB pays for three first-class round-trip tickets for player and two guests.

They can also get reimbursed for a private jet at a rate of six-round-trip first-class tickets. So go ahead. What have they mishandled? Well, I mean, this is Boris at his worst. This is genuine, even outright, you know, manipulation and lies. he points out that Atlanta had flown a private jet like five hours earlier and there was a story about Houston offering a seat on their plane to the Oakland pitcher on their private jet.

Well, the reason those two teams, the only teams that we know of to use private jets was because they were flying their coaching and managers out there because they were going to manage the games. you know, Dusty Baker and his staff for the American League and Brian Snittaker and his staff for the Nationally. So that's why they used private. You didn't hear about the Yankees flying Aaron Judge out there on a private jet. Well, how did Aaron Judge get out there? He didn't be a free agent.

I'm sure he flew like almost every, all those guys did. Either they decided to fly on their own on a private jet or else they flew. commercial, the horrors of a commercial flight. You know? I mean, so this is absurd. This is collectively bargained, okay? Where the union and the baseball agreed that this is how traveled to the All-Star game would be handled. The baseball gives three first-class round-trip tickets to a player for himself and two guests to fly back and forth first class to,

got it. To the All-Star game. If they want to get a private jet, baseball would be willing to put up the six, the price equivalent of six first-class round-trip tickets to reimburse that. Okay, but this is not something that like the national should have expected to do, or I'm not sure they're even allowed to at this point, because it's a collective bargaining deal.

No other teams. did this except the two teams that had that float, flew their coaching and managing staff out there for the game. So it was really disingenuous for Boris to kind of suggest that the nationals did something wrong by

not catering to to, you know, to Juan Soto by flying him out there on a private jet. It's simply wrong. And it, again, it shows, it shows, it shows, it shows, what Boris is like. And again,

Scott, you know, Juan Soto right now is clearly in the Scott Borth camp. He believes in his guy. So at this point, Juan Soto is playing for Scott Bors. Okay. And this is what you get when you play for Scott Bors. You get moves like this. But, you know, I mean, he's the best. He gets his clients the best value.

And, I mean, it's funny because he's taken a shot at the learners here. by doing this. You know, he squeezed the learners dry. The learners were his best friends for years. He was like a family member of the learners. When Bryce Harper got married, the learner family sat with Scott Boris at his wedding reception. Okay.

So, and now he doesn't need them anymore. They're selling the team, so they don't exist to him anymore. So let's dump on them. That's Boris to a team. Well, I mean, obviously he was upset about the leaking of the offer that Juan Soto turned down, even though as we discussed the other day in many ways, you know, I don't know what the Nats were thinking.

I think the timing of it was bad. With the All-Star game coming up, it was the center of attention. And, you know, we're not living 30 years ago where people don't understand contracts. Everybody can do the AAV math. But with respect to this travel story, that is bullshit. I mean, what you described. I mean, what a low rent, you know, accusation that isn't even based on anything that's true. And I mentioned yesterday, Tommy, that in addition to, you know, Boris, you know, make, you know, in the moment thinking that, you know, he had made the Nats look bad, I also said he made himself look bad.

Juan Soto's his big, you know, right now, his biggest potential client, maybe of all time in terms of the commission, and why didn't he fly him out there privately? You know, I mean, it didn't seem to occur to him as people were... Now, apparently, Boris says he's not allowed to do that, which I think it's the same situation as the Nationals may be it. Okay? Why would Boris not be able to do that with a client? That doesn't make any sense. know. I don't know. This is what he said. I saw something on social media where he said he wouldn't be able to do that. It's one thing if you're an agent, if you're an agent after a

prospective client, but he's already signed. He's one of Boris's clients. That doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, he might be lying about that too. Yeah. And let's talk about the week for a moment. Buster only tweeted this out after talking to a bunch of people in baseball. And let me tell you something about Buster only. I've said this before. I'm sure he's still among the hardest working guys in this business. I used to compete with Buster when he covered the Baltimore Orioles,

and I covered the Orioles for the Washington Times. And Buster used to make 40 phone calls a day before he got to the ballpark, to agents, to front office executives, to anyone who, would pick up the phone. 40 calls a day before he got to work. So, I mean, he's got tremendous sources, and those sources pointed out, the league benefits Boris and Soto as well, because it establishes a base price out there now for the WONSoto sweet stakes, $440 million.

Okay? We're only 60 million away from $500 million, and he's still two and a half years, before he's a free agent. So what that way, it serves Boris's purpose as well because it establishes a price out there. He did the same thing with Harper. Yeah, but what are you suggesting that the Nats weren't the source of the leak to Rosenthal?

I don't know. They probably are, but the story out there serves both sides. Okay, it says it makes the NAC say, look, we did our best to sign this guy. He doesn't want to play here. It helps for us because now there's a dollar-off figure attached to them. I get that. And even the other day, I think I said to you, if the Nats did this with the intention of trying to make their fan base think, hey, look, we tried really hard.

I'm not so sure totally worked that way because everybody did this simple, you know, AV math, and they're like, it's barely even top 20. What are you talking about? But how many courthouses does Buster Allney go to a day before he's, you know, before he goes to a game? He didn't have anything on you. All right. So what else on Soto? We've got some football to get to. That's pretty much it.

You know, it's a shame all the way around that the game has this way. And I pointed this out with somebody on social media that says, you know, this is the kind of stuff that's destroyed the game. Save for a 13, 14, 15-year window from the mid-60s to the late 70s, this is the way baseball has always been. In 1965, baseball had the first amateur draft where, you know, the richest teams could not buy the best players. You know, they came up with this system, this amateur draft. And from pretty much 65 through 79 or 80, you know, or 70s, you know,

or 77, let's say, when free agency kind of began, you had teams that wouldn't normally compete, be able to compete because they were able to build up. The Orioles are a perfect example of that. The Orioles' glory years are from 66 to 83. It's no coincidence that their glory years started when the player draft started. Right.

So it's where everybody had it where even the low-market teams, small-market teams, had a chance to draft. good young talent. And free agency has kind of changed all that. You know, free agency changed that. But before there was an amateur draft, the Yankees bought all the good players. I mean, and there were teams that didn't compete like the senators for years. Right. So this is the way baseball has pretty much always been, save for a generation that grew up watching the Kansas City Royals and the Milwaukee Brewers

in the playoffs. And thinking that's the way, you know, It is. We had the I-70 series between the Cardinals and the Royals in 1985. Yeah. That certainly wouldn't a subway series. No. The world's benefited from being able to develop young talent that they drafted. They're in a Kansas City.

The Kansas City athletics used to act like a farm club for the Yankees. They would get their young talent and then sell it to the Yankees. So there's this fallacy that, that's, Somehow baseball, this is something new. This is the way the game has been since it became the national pastime. It's always, I mean, the Red Sox had to sell Babe Ruth. Now, that was because their owner lost money on a Broadway show, but still, this goes back a long way, this kind of sad transaction like this.

George Brett and the pine tar probably helped the Royals too God, I remember those great series between the Royals and the Yankees. They were great. They were great, and that was a great team of the Royal. And you mentioned the Brewers. I remember the end of that 70, maybe the 80 season or the 82 season, actually. I think it was the 82 season because the Orioles won the World Series in 83. Yes. The end of the 82 season, the 82 season they played the Brewers in a

four-game set final weekend of the year. And if they swept the Brewers, they would win the American League East. The Brewers were in the American League East. And they won the first three. And it came down to one game, and the Brewers actually did win that final game. And they went on to the postseason. And I think that game was Dodd Sutton versus Jim Palmer. And the Brewers destroyed the Orioles.

I mean, it wasn't even close. I don't know about Don Sutton, but I think you're 100 percent. Right, it was Jim Palmer. You know, that was the one stretch for me where I was into the Orioles, but again, like many of my friends who really got after it and became Orioles fans and are still Orioles fans to this day, I never quite did the same thing. I always wanted our own team. Real quickly, yesterday I talked about this and had Andy on to talk about it,

and I'd done it on radio, and so many people, so many of you tweeted in various answers, but Tommy suggested that if Kevin Durant actually got traded here, and there was a report the other day, which prompted the conversation, it would be the biggest trade of a player, an acquisition, free agent, drafted player, trade for a player of, you know, certainly this century, and maybe of all time in this town, somebody did call in, actually, our good friend Robert in Annapolis called in and said, But actually, the all-time get was Lombardi, which he's right.

I mean, you know, getting Lombardi out of retirement to coach the Redskins is the all-time, you know, under that heading of acquisition, whether it's, you know, higher draft, free agency or trade. But several of you said, Sheehan flip it around. Would there be a trade that any team in this town made a trading a player out of town rather than acquiring a player? player that would equal what might happen in the next couple of weeks with Soto. The answer is probably not. Probably not. No. All right. Let's get to some football next right after these words from a few of our sponsors. So I did want to start this segment with some information that I got yesterday.

Yesterday, I reminded everybody, Tommy, was the only day of the calendar where there are no games. I think there's been an occasional day here and there where there have been no basketball, football, baseball, or hockey games. I'm talking about the four major professional sports. But yesterday is that, you know, slowest day on the sports calendar the day following the All-Star game. But I ended up having a couple of conversations, one of which prompted then another call to sort of confirm this. And I just wanted to mention this because I think it's interesting. We all thought that the stadium funding conversation,

was basically headed towards, you know, nothing. That, you know, D.C. was a nothing. Maryland was a nothing other than the 400 million in infrastructure, which was, it's already going to happen, you know, in the Landover, North Englewood and Summerfield area of Prince George's County. And that Virginia, you know, was debating it up there until the end, but it was heading in the direction of it wasn't going to get voted on, certainly in this particular session.

I was told that on that June 8th, when Jack Del Rio, as part of that press conference during, you know, minicamp was it, or one of the OTA sessions, referred to January 6th as a dust-up, that literally members of the organization were meeting with some of the Democratic state senators about Virginia and a commitment to the team of some level for a new stadium, whether it be in Dumfrey, Springfield, or Loudon County. And that literally they got word of what Jack Del Rio had said and said, that's it, this is a wrap, we're done. We knew in the moment, I mean, this isn't like a big reveal, we knew that Jack Del Rio had done something really dumb for the business of the team, but I suggested at the time, I forget if you agreed or disagreed,

that I think it was headed in the direction of them not getting anything from Virginia anyway. But still, that, you know, put all the politics aside, the judgment from Jack Del Rio was horrible. Like, you know, what was he thinking? You know, and by the way, why didn't the team at some point look at what he was doing on social media and say, you're not helping us. It doesn't matter what you believe. It doesn't matter if we agree with you or not. This is terrible for the business of our organization. And so I was told, and then I back, it up with another call that literally the team was in a meeting with Virginia people about Virginia and the stadium when they got word of Jack Dill-Rios press conference that afternoon

and they said, that's it, we're done. See ya. And that, you know, it was two days later that Rivera fined him $100,000. The organization was not happy with Jack. Whether there are people in the organization that share political beliefs with them or don't, he effed them. Now, what was Virginia you're going to come up with? I have no idea, but it was still alive, or it was still on life support, and with that comment, they pulled the plug completely. This was my whole point about that it damaged the business of the organization. Yeah, of course. I mean, you know, it had nothing to do with what you think about his First Amendment rights.

whatever your bizarre notion is of the First Amendment at this point. It damaged the business of the team. And again, the business of the team, Jason Wright is in charge of the business of the team. I mean, people said, you know, Ron Rivera is over Jack Del Rio. Like you said, early on, you didn't have to be very smart to figure out that Jack Del Rio was a loose cannon on social media and that he needed to have a conversation to explain to him,

look, you're going to hurt the business of this team, you know, just keep your thoughts to yourself. No, I've said this to you before that, okay, with respect to this, and we were talking about something else when it came to Rivera, but this would have been one of those where the owner or the co-owner should have gotten Ron and Jason and Jack and Scott. No, the whole organization into that big-ass conference room that they have out there. And, you know, had a podium and said, look, we are not right now doing very well.

You know, we're happy with the progress that we've made with the football team and the job Ron's doing with his staff and the players and we're optimistic. and we are really pleased with some of the hires that we've made and the transformation of our business. And by the way, we've got this vestry light auditing company from an HR standpoint giving us high marks. These are all good things. We need this momentum to continue. This meeting is to tell everybody that what you say outside of being asked a football question or a question about ticketing or marketing. What you say about your political beliefs or your religious beliefs

or anything, you better think twice because we're not like the other 31 teams. We're different right now. We are under a microscope. And we need everybody to like us. We don't need half of the people to like us and half of the people to hate us. We need everybody to actually like us. We're in the business now of being customer-friendly because we've been the opposite of that.

I don't know if they'd ever have any self-awareness to understand that. I know Jason Wright understood that when he got into the organization. He was like, these people are arrogant as hell. I'm sure he looked around and said, we've got to get rid of three-quarters of the people here. They're trying to sell the 1990-191 skins. That's not who we are. but yeah to your point real leadership would have you know stopped jack del rio a long time ago and said i don't care what you believe and if you want to be if you want to become an activist go do it

you have the right to do that but you can't do it here because it will hurt our business and this has nothing to do with what you're writing or what you're saying it has to do with the impact of your words on our business, we're different from everybody else. We can't overcome a dust up on January 6th. Anyway, I wanted to mention that. Here's the other thing real quickly. So Booger McFarlane on ESPN yesterday said about Chase Young, and the reason he said this is that the Madden 23 Tommy player ratings are, you know,

coming out one day at a time. And the other day, and we talked about this on the podcast, Terry McClorn was tied for eighth on the receiver ratings, which was really good. Chase Young was 27th on edge rushers. 27th out of the edge rushers in the NFL is where his Madden rating ranked. And they were talking about Madden ratings on ESPN yesterday, and Booger McFarlane said the following.

He said about Chase Young, this is way too low. They're missing out on one of the real talents in the game. And he went on to predict that Chase Young, if he's healthy and play 17 games, is going to get 20 sacks and he's going to approach 20 sacks, and he's going to approach the forced fumble record in 2022. Now the 17 games, you know, that's optimistic because that's going to be the biggest story of training camp, or certainly one of them. Will Chase Young be ready for the opener? Or is he going to start the season on the Pupplest?

As somebody who we both know well texted me this morning when we talked about what Bougar McFarland said, he said, Bougar should lay off the cognac. That's fine. But he's really optimistic about what Chase Young can become. Let me just say this. If Chase Young had 20 sacks in the forced fumble record, which, by the way, is 10, that's the all time. It's shared by three players. Mathis, Charles Tillman, and Yuma, have the single season record with 10 forced fumbles. If he were to force 10 plus fumbles and have 20 sacks, they're going to win 11 games. That's how much of an impact it would have on their win total. Yeah, it would. That amount of turnovers? Yes. Now, that's forced fumbles. It doesn't mean they all end up being recovered by Washington, but say they recover more than half of them. The 20 sacks alone would create interceptions and turnovers that he might not even force other than through his pressure.

If that were to happen, great. The reason I bring it up is because I too am very optimistic about Chase Young this year. I don't know about his health. I mean, this assumes that he's healthy enough and he's back to 100%. He plays the significant majority of games. He's going to play 14 plus games. I hope it's 17. I just am convinced that what I watched his rookie year, even though, you know, I acknowledge, as we've discussed many times,

it was against a lot of backup quarterbacks and even some third-string quarterbacks there at the end. But that defensive rookie of the year campaign was really impressive. I know what I saw in college. I saw a guy that I thought coming out, which is why I rooted for them so hard to lose to the Giants. And I said before that game, you beat the Giants and you're going to be facing LT for the next 10 years. You lose to the Giants in this game and you are going to have somebody like LT on your team for the next 10 years. And that's an exaggeration.

But the kind of talent, he was considered a generational kind of pass rushing talent. And that's what I saw as a football fan. So I wanted him. So I want to be right about that, number one. But I do believe that last year, I hope, was a wake-up call for him. You know, the not adhering to the scheme, the criticism that he faced from coaches, maybe even from some other teammates, you know, if he's got any self-awareness about last year at all and recognizes that beyond the injury, he didn't play like Chase Young can play. I think he's got. he's going to come back and he's going to have a big year. I am optimistic about Chase Young, assuming the health is there and that the injury didn't take something from him, which ACLs don't typically do in this day and age. Okay. First of all, he needs to get a real name.

I mean, grown men are not called booger. Okay? I thought you were going to say Chase. No, that's a fraternity nickname. Mm-hmm. you know, over McFarland. Second, this is the guy who sang the praises of what Bruce Allen did here at Ghost Town Field when they were doing a Monday night game there, and he talked about the great atmosphere that Bruce Allen had brought to the organization in a stadium that was half-filled,

and of those half, half of them were the visiting team. So this guy's judgment is extremely questionable. The other thing is I expect Chase Young to be better than he was last year. But beyond that, I mean, if he has 10 sacks, that's an improvement on his rookie year, okay, if he has double-digit sacks. So, I mean, I think it's possible for him to be better, but I think it's absurd. to put out that kind of. I mean, that damage is, you have no credibility except for the commander's focus group when you say something like that. You like focus group. Yes, I do.

Yeah, Anthony of Bougar McFarland maybe is a little bit off when it comes to Washington, right when you started to mention that I remember. I remember that Monday night game. I think they were playing the Bears, you know, and Mitch Trubisky lit him up. And he was talking about, you know, how much Bruce Allen had done for the organization. Of course, he played for the Buccaneers when Bruce Allen was there. So there was a relationship there with Bruce Allen. I don't know. It's a long way of getting to, I am actually optimistic about two things.

I'm optimistic that offensively they're going to be much improved, which isn't that much of a reach. But I actually think they could really be a decent offense and the offense could carry them. And I also believe that if Chase Young is 100%, he's going to have a big time bounce back year. He's just too talented and too competitive for that not to happen. I would bet on him.

I've said this before. It's a pressure year for him, Tommy. It's kind of crazy that year three is pressure on Chase young to perform at the level that he performed at as a rookie to live up to that number two overall pick after last year, you know, missing half the year with the injury is not, you know, is not going to get blamed on him. But the one and a half sacks through the first eight and a half games is, you know, you can't have that kind of a season.

You better have a bounce back season. And he may have some reasons why he's not going to be as good this year as he was as a rookie, and they might be because he hasn't had any time to get ready for this season. No off season, injury, coming back from it, maybe starting training camp on the Pupp list, maybe starting the regular season on the Pupp list. But there's still some pressure on him when he gets out there to look like the Chase Young that everybody thought we were getting with the number two overall pick, which is what we saw his rookie season. And, you know, again, he has a guy on the other side who there's high expectations for as well.

Right. Montez Sweat. That's true. I mean, it's not going to hurt Chase Young if Montez Sweat has a big year as well. It's only going to help them. That's right. But the problem is they don't have any linebackers either, and that doesn't help. All right.

There's, there's, you know, some pressure on Chase Young, for sure. There's more pressure on Ron Rivera than anybody else. And some of the reason that there's a lot of pressure on Ron Rivera is he's all in on Carson Wentz. The number of passing yards for Carson Wentz on the over-under market is surprisingly, if not shockingly low. We'll finish up the show with that next right after these words from a few of our sponsors. So I saw this, Pete Haley from NBC Sports Washington tweeted this out, that Carson Wentz's, passing yards for the upcoming season on the prop bet market via points bet USA was 3,59.5 yards. For those that don't understand, if you bet over and he throws for 3,600 yards or more, you win the bet.

If he throws under that, you lose the bet. There's a number and you either pick over 3,599 and a half yards or under. And at the end of the season, what does he have? And that, you know, determines whether or not you won the bet. I did a little bit more investigating to see where that kind of ranked among the quarterbacks in the NFL. On Draft Kings, which they have this prop bet up, so does Fandul. So does bet MGM. My bookie has so many prop bets, but I was not able to find the over, under, on quarterback yards for the season.

But still, my bookie's got so many more. of these numbers. Go to mybooky.ag or mybooky.com. Use my promo code Kevin D.C. And they'll double your first deposit all the way up to $1,000. Anyway, on draft Kings, Tommy, they have Carson Wentz's over under total at 3,550 and a half yards. 26th in the NFL. It's 26th in the NFL on quarterback yardage. Haven't we heard, Carson Wence, you know, great system, all these weapons, look out for Washington. The quarterbacks that are in front of him, Davis Mills, playing for what is right now pretty much universally thought to be the worst team in the NFL going into 2022, the Houston

Texans. Baker Mayfield, who just got traded to Carolina, his over under is 3,800 yards. He's several spots in front of Carson Wentz. Daniel Jones is several spots in front of Carson Wentz. Jared Goff, Mack Jones, Tua. You know, the list, by the way, if you're wondering who's got the highest over under number on passing yards. Justin Herbert, followed by Brady, followed by Mahomes, and then Stafford, Carr, Burrow, Prescott, Allen, and Cousins. All right, those are the top 10.

I think I just ripped off top 10. No, then Russell Wilson. Aaron Rogers actually is outside the top 10, just barely. but he lost, you know, he lost his number one wide receiver. That's your top 10 in passing yards for the season. Carson Wentz is at 3550 per draft Kings, 26th in the league. So the reason I'm bringing this up is, first of all, most of you know how I feel. We don't know nearly as much as the odds makers know.

You know, a couple of weeks ago, I told you that Washington, along with Detroit, those two teams have seen the most action on. on the over-win total. Washington's has been at like seven and a half or eight, and there's a lot of betting action on Washington over the total in terms of games. But the odds makers, you know, aren't throwing these numbers out there because they want to be taken to the cleaners by easy over-bet wins. Like 35-50, they're not putting it out there because they think Carson Wentz is going to throw for 4,000 yards

and they're going to have to pay everybody off. That's what they think the number should be. And by the way, it's incenting a lot of overaction. I guarantee you. I don't know if it's over under. I wouldn't bet the over. I can tell you that. That number's too low and he's ranked too low among the quarterbacks to get me to get suckered into that thing.

But the number really reflects two things. One, the injury potential with Wentz and the fact that he may not play all 17 games. Why? Because he rarely has. You know, second year in the league, he missed, you know, guys. injured in week 13, only played 13 games. Third year in the league only played 11 games. Fifth year in the league only played 12 games. So there is a high injury potential with Wentz. So that's one of the reasons the number is where it is. He also last year in Indianapolis

threw for 3,563 yards starting all 17 games. You know, I mentioned this before. Jonathan Taylor carried that team into playoff contention. Not Carson Wentz. He averaged 209.6 yards passing per game last year, the lowest of his career. So that's why the number is where it is. Secondly, let me just mention this. Every single prop bet for the upcoming season really reflects that the odds makers do not believe in why. Washington this year. Let me give you a couple of them. In the division, Dallas is the favorite at

plus 120. Philly is the second favorite at plus 190. This is at my bookie. Washington's plus 500. Okay, that's a big disparity. No regard for Washington's chances to win the division. Their over under number, seven and a half is 10th best in the NFC. Okay, there are six teams worse, but it's not playoff material. How about this one, Tommy? This one is really interesting to me. The odds on coach of the year in the NFL. You know, the coach of the year odds,

you know, the coach of the year usually goes to the coach, who coach the team that wasn't very good the year before, that overachieved and they won, you know, 12 games won the division and they ended up being in the playoffs. That's usually who wins coach of the year. Not the Bill Belichicks of the world, not the Sean McVeigh's this year as the defending Super Bowl champion. Like Sean McVeigh's got zero chance to win coach of the year

unless they go undefeated. You understand what I'm saying, right? Yes. And people generally do not like to reward coaches for coaching very talented teams. Right. So Ron Rivera coached a 7-10 team last year. Didn't make the playoffs. And so maybe Ron Rivera is going to be way up there.

on the coach of the year, odds. Nope. 26th out of the 32 coaches and odds to win coach of the year. I'm bringing a comeback player of the year. By the way, on the coach of the year, I think I mentioned this maybe yesterday or the day before, they're co-favorites at plus 1,400. Dan Campbell, the head coach of the Detroit Lions, a lot of people like Detroit to be very improved. this year. And Brian Dable, the head coach of the New York football Giants, you don't make Brian Dable, the head coach of the New York Giants, the favorite or co-favored to win coach of the year if you're an odds maker, unless you think they're going to win nine plus games and be in the playoffs. And I've said this before. I don't think, I think there's a chance the Giants could be

a big turnaround story, just like I think Washington, there's a chance Washington could be. But Brian Dable's a co-favorit for Coach of the Year, and Ron Rivera's pick number 26 out of 32 coaches. And then the comeback player of the year award, which Chase Young is eligible for, he's 10th. Daniel Jones is much higher than he is. So all of that is just a way of saying, while people are excited, I know a lot of people who are, and think they're going to be better and think they've got a much better quarter. back and think they should be much better offensively and think they can't be any worse defensively, you know, than the disappointing year of last year. And they've got this super

weak schedule. Bettors might think that. The public may think that. The odds makers do not think that. The odds makers do not think much of Washington this year. That's the bottom line. All of this leads to that. Let me give you a number. 3,419 yards. 15 starts and 16 games. Taylor He didn't have Jonathan. He didn't have Jonathan Taylor in the backfield with him last year either. Yeah. Taylor Heineke. Yes.

Yeah. Taylor Heineke. Okay. Well, you know, I wouldn't bet the over. There's no way, most of you know, that's not the way I bet. I don't jump on the things that look obvious. I go the other way on the things that look obvious. I'm like, yeah, there's a reason it's obvious.

And I guarantee you there are a lot of, you know, first-time gamblers with all the legalized sports bet betting opportunities that are like, huh, 3550 for Carson Wentz? He's got Terry McClorn and John Dodson and Curtis Samuel. And they've got, you know, Gibson in the backfield and McKissick. I mean, no way. If he plays 15 games he's going to throw for 4,000 yards. Yeah, be careful on that one.

By the way, let me also point out, he doesn't have to throw over 3,550 yards for them to be a good team. I mean, he threw 3,563 yards last year, and they had a big-time running game, and Scott Turner has proven that he'll stick with the run if they do it. I mean, they won four games running the football, you know, in late November, into early December. So he doesn't have to throw

for a large number over that number for them to be a competitive team. But the odds makers are telling you with all of these preseason prop bets that they're not that bullish or optimistic about Washington this year.

Betters feel differently, though, I think. All right, you got anything else? I got nothing else for you, boss. All right, then. We're done for the day. I'll be back tomorrow.