The Kevin Sheehan Show - Stanford Steve on Sam Howell

Episode Date: August 4, 2023

Kevin and ESPN's Stanford Steve Coughlin together in-studio for the second part of their conversation which included plenty on the Commanders, Steve's thoughts on Sam Howell, and lots of NFL talk. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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We recorded about an hour of discussion. Yesterday you heard our college football discussion. Today, it's all about the Washington commanders and NFL football. football. That's coming up shortly. The show today brought to you by the Circa Million and Circa Survivor Pools in Vegas, which is where I probably am right now as you are listening to this. On my way to Wyoming later in the weekend to visit with Cooley for a couple of days. But the Circa Million bet five games every week against the spread. The person with the best record at the end of the year wins a million dollars. But there are another five.

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what he thought about Washington heading into the 2023 NFL season. I don't see how that roster is a playoff team. Well, the roster is minus the quarterback. The quarterback is a big mystery, and the offensive line could be a problem too. I think defensively they're potentially a top five defense this year. They were top 10 by every metric last year. It's a really good defensive talent base. They're well-coached defensively.

They've got big-time playmakers on offense. They really do with Terry McLaren and Dotson and Samuel Diami Brown should be a threat this year. Gibson and Brian Robinson, Jr. I think their running backs are underrated. It's the quarterback. We have no idea. I forget where you came in on Sam Hal. I've been a believer in them, but I always thought it was about the fit.

And that's my problem here. I always bring this, because it was never the same after. I go back to Carson Went's first season in Philadelphia. I remember like it was yesterday because I wanted to see how it was going to be, you know, not proven guy. And what Doug Peterson and Frank Reich did in that system, he didn't get touched. He did not get touched.

And that's what in need, and that's what worries me about Howell. I saw the, you know, people want to call him demons or whatever. He knew he was up against his last year at Carolina. He knew it. They didn't have an offensive line. That system is not planned for, you know, protecting your quarterback. It's set up for your quarterback to be the dynamic playmaker. He is that.

He is that. I think his arms has gotten a lot stronger talking to people with the team. But I think he, in the back of your mind, And he played the game last year. He's been in it for a year. In the back of your mind as a quarterback, you have to have a good sense of whether or not I'm going to get protected. And I don't know if he has that.

When I look at the roster, what do he has up front? I'm not a believer in that unit. Now, how creative can we get offensively? Well, so are you a believer in BNami or not? I want to see him without Patrick Holmes. And Travis Kelsey. Yeah. And Tareke Hill.

Correct. Yeah. So we'll see. I'll tell you right now, it's going to be fun. It's going to be fun because there's going to be some flashes. I hope McLaurin gets a lot more targets early in games than he did at the beginning of last year. I think that turned. You're bashing your boy Scott Turner. I'm not bashing my man, Scott Turner. I just think it was, you know, maybe the quarterback. I think it was the quarterback that was in charge. And by the way, the offensive line. They didn't have much time. So I look at that, and I just think of the division, it can't be this easy for Philly.

It can't be because it's this league, first of all. But when you go across the board, like I still have a lot of questions about the Niners. You know, Kipurty do it again. The system is the system and the defense and the roster is as much talent. But I still think they are, I think they're going to be, they're going to, they're going to ascend as the season goes. I think like a season win total, I wouldn't touch their over because they could be like a wild card and then run the table for that. I could see that game.

But that division's not good. I do kind of like Seattle. Yeah, they got some talent. I mean, you know, can Gino Smith duplicate what he did last year? Maybe. I like Gino's. I love what they put around him. Oh, yeah.

Oh, sure. I mean, Smith and Jigba is a guy exactly what you want with D.K. And lock it. Because in Jigba. And by the way, Walker the third. Yeah. I mean, they got some depth. They got some depth that running back.

Yeah. I like the kid from Georgia. They got McIntosh, I think, from Georgia. And they also have Charbonnet. The biggest wildcard to me in the NFC and who I will hone in every week, because I think they're the most fascinating team. First off, because everybody talks about the team that Aaron Rogers went to, but I'm more fat.

I want to see what the Packers are. You like love. I don't. I don't. I have zero feelings towards them. That's why I just, I'm going to. This is what it is. There are people that are believers in Green Bay right now.

Look, they got five national television. games. Yeah. So there is a belief from, first of all, they do have a good roster. That's my point. To me, we're going to see the coach. Yeah. We're going to see how good the coach is. And that, I just

think they are such a fascinating dynamic because, like I said, everybody wanted to talk about Rogers going to the Jets. I want to talk about more about what happens because he was not good last year. He was not good. He wasn't healthy last year. And he didn't have receipts. And he didn't have

receivers. I mean, it took a while for Watson to come together. But really, you could see that, you know, he had, you know, hand, thumb, whatever it was. He had some issues. But I'm a believer in the Jets this year because of him. You are? Oh, yeah. Yeah, see, I'm not. I'm not. I think that division all got better. Uh, but just going back to Green Bay, I look, the division, the division, yeah. The NFC North, I mean, I know you love your guy. Yeah. But they're not going 11 and no and one score games again. I'll just tell you that. I'm playing the opposite of that playing out again. Okay.

But Chicago? Talk about a quarterback. Well, everybody. Detroit's the favorite in that division. Come on. I know. I agree with you. Although, you know what? Amon Rae St. Brown is an elite receiver.

No doubt. And climbing. And golf in that system. Yeah. And, yeah. I get why people like Detroit. Look, if Seattle had lost that game earlier that day, Detroit was in the postseason instead of, you know, that game would have been a game for that last spot. I just didn't see Aaron Rogers last year.

I saw a guy that was a shell because of his health and because of a whole new supporting cast. The Jet Defense was top five in the league last year. Sauce Gardner is the real deal. I think Quinn and Williams, like I always kind of, we focus so much here on the detackles in the league. And I think John and Duran are actually the best pairing of defensive tackles in the NFL. Although I really like Simmons and Tart in Tennessee, too. I think in terms of the best combined D tackles side by side, it's Payne and Allen. But I'd still take Quinn and Williams before I'd take either one of them.

I'd take Simmons. I'd take Aaron Donald. I mean, but that defense is not. nasty. They're going to get, they're going to get haulback this year. We'll see what happens with Dalvin Cook. I personally don't even think they need Dalvin Cook. I don't either. They've got receivers. I mean, Garrett Wilson and Aaron Rogers. And they've, even if you think that he regressed a little bit, maybe he's on a decline, he is still so much better than anything they had last year. And they were seven and four headed to the postseason. They couldn't score.

No. They could not score. It was brutal a while. You saw it in Salas' fate. He knew it. He knew it. They got to a point where it was that close. Because I had an ongoing joke with my buddies up in the Northeast. Like I wrote it and then I couldn't write it anymore that the Jets were the best team in New York. And then I got burned at the end of that one.

What do you make a Buffalo? So you have the Jets as a favor in the division. I like the Jets. I certainly like them. You would make them the favorite. I like them to win double-digit games for sure. And I think they're going to be in the postseason. Now, I think Buffalo actually is really good, but there's something weird going on there.

All right, whether it's the Josh Allen Diggs thing, whether it's the Leslie Frazier thing gone with McDermott taking over the defensive play calling. And they just, like, there's some pressure on them. I mean, and they have been a really good team, but they have not gotten to where everybody thinks. Well, why? Because Cincinnati and Kansas City are really good. And so are they. And now they've got another, I think, potentially really good team. I think the Jets defensively may be the best team in the AFC defensively. And now you're adding the ability to score to that. That's why I like them. Look, Aaron Rogers could get hurt and then you're going to end up with Zach, you know,

Zach Wilson again. It's going to be a problem. And injuries. But assuming everybody's healthy. I'll give you a team, by the way, in the AFC that I actually like, and I'm going to, they're going to be one of my big over prop bets is Tennessee. I love him. He's a great coach that I don't think it's talked about enough. I think he's one of the best coaches. And I like Tanna Hill. I think if Tannhill is healthy, they're in a shitty division, and I know Jacksonville's, you know, coming.

But he's really good, and they're going to win nine games this year. Yeah, I totally see that. games. Jacksonville is the wild card in the conference to me. Because we saw how good they could be. Yeah. They, they, I thought they impressed me going to Kansas. They weren't scared because people go to Arrowhead and

just get weirded out and I get it. It's a whole lot that comes with it, knowing that you got 15, but it just feels like a swoon for some teams that go in there. Like, I would worry about the Jets going in there. I just, I just feel like it's, it's, it's, they would have something ready to go for that defense.

But I look at Jacksonville. as a team that has a huge ceiling. They got four, I think four win, five wins in the division. Yeah, they got Ridley. Kirk is phenomenal. And I love Doug Peterson. I really do. So interesting about Kirk.

Remember when he signed that deal? Everybody's like, what for Christian Kirk? He was great last year. Absolutely. So back to the AFC East. Do you like Buffalo? I don't. Oh, I don't.

I like Miami. You do? I do. I know it's, I know it's, it's tour or not. I actually like their. roster a lot. Now, they didn't have any draft picks, but I still like the pieces that they did. I think he is that creative. And here's the deal. In that division, New England's still going to be a pain in the ass. A total pain in the ass. In fact, I'm starting to think that. Like, he actually has a

coach to coach him this year on office. This might be the year where it's like, we're teetering on, well, clearly it was Brady. It wasn't Belichick. I mean, you know, he's apparently on a high seat, come on. He's going to, he's going to come out. And by the way, they're nasty on defense, too. Yeah. Really good, but I'm not a big Mac Jones guy. I just like that he has a coach that's coached quarterback.

Yeah, true. Hey, I'm on an aisle. I love Bill O'Brien. Man, the AFC is loaded. It's, it's crazy. And that's what gets me back to that thing about Philly. Like, there's no way it's going to, it looks that easy. But in this league, you know, when do they play?

Dallas. When does Philly play Dallas? There's a game relatively early. Because Dallas's schedule is brutal. November 5th and then December 10th. Wow. That's late. Philly opens

at New England, Minnesota at home week two at Tampa and then Washington Week 4. Okay. I've kept you long enough. One more. Go ahead. What do you got on the Ravens? It's funny because I think that division's really an interesting division. I've said it for...

I actually think Cleveland's a dangerous team of Deshawn, and I think Deshawn could be Deshawn again. We'll see. Well, if he isn't, then... Forget it. Yeah, forget it. Baltimore's really good. I'm a picket guy.

I thought he was really good, and I think Pittsburgh, they're not going to win less than eight games, because Tomlin doesn't go sub-500. They're... would you say they're more dangerous than New England in that division? Pittsburgh? Yeah. Yeah.

I look at them as the same. Just because if you put Buffalo in Cincinnati, then you go Miami, you go Jets to Miami before you go Baltimore. Do you? Yeah. Okay. The Jets are better than anybody in the AFC North not named Cincinnati. I think so. This is going to be such a fascinating team this year because I do think it's a.

a very polarizing conversation. I think people are having the same conversation that we're having right now. They're either, oh, my God, did you see them last year how good they were defensively? And now they have Aaron Rogers. Like, even if he isn't Aaron Rogers, but he's like a top 10 quarterback, they're going to win 12, 13 games. And I believe that. And you saw a guy that was in decline. And oh, by the way, a little bit full of himself and self-absorbed, all that stuff.

And some people see that. But man, the Jets have welcomed him and he took $35 million pay cut. Yeah, I mean, it looks great. It looks like they're all bought in. He's got his boy in Nathaniel Hackett. He's got, you know, he's got Cobb and Lazard. And who knows, I mean, before the season starts, watch Adams end up in New York. Yeah.

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Ravens. I love Monkin. Being able to sit down with him before the playoff games last year, I was really, I bought in. I think it's a great change. You know, Romo's a guy who's going to play to his strengths, obviously the Lamar saga, but

they are fascinating to me this year because, you know, they're talking about a team that's not afraid to anybody. That division, is just a war every week. I love that division. I love everything about the Baltimore organization. No doubt.

You're even wearing their colors today. I am wearing their colors today. So are you, even though it's an ECU shirt, Pirate Nation. Yeah, Greg Roman did not get hired, did he? No. Just go around. I mean, we'll see if, you know, Munkin's offense is a good fit for Jackson because Roman's offense was a good fit for Jackson.

Exactly. And they took so much off of Lamar's plate. I know. That's what that system does. I mean, I go back to Greg Roman at Andrew Luck's freshman year. He was the guy that laid everything down. Yeah. And then you saw him as sent.

Greg Roman and San Francisco with Kaepernick. Exactly. I mean, you know, so. He brought Tyrod Taylor to the playoffs, I think, in Buffalo. Yeah, I know. So why didn't he get hired? You know, there was a brief story. And I was thinking about, you know what, Washington, trade up, take Anthony Richardson, and hire Greg Roman.

And let's play football that way. And let's see what happens because you've got a really good defense. You've got some skill position talent. You've got some running backs. But it's EB, and we'll see. Yeah? You're right. We'll see.

Yeah. The NFC, by the way, we'll end on this. I don't know about Brock Purdy either. Like, I don't understand like this buying into Purdy. I think Sam Darnold's going to be the guy. Well, it's certainly not going to be Trey Lance, is it? Wildcat. It's coming back. I mean, I thought I always liked Purdy at Iowa State.

The system is perfect. But if you have somebody that brings more to the table from a skill set. That's why if cousins had been in San Francisco the last four or five years, they would have probably had one at this point. Or two. Did you watch quarterback? I can't. Why? I didn't last through the first episode.

Why? Patrick Mahalm's wife. So annoying. So annoying. Couldn't do it. And I wanted more on Mario-Ota. I love Mario-Ota. I like Mario-Ota too.

And I actually... I just... Everybody basically, you know, they eliminated Marcus Mariotta from the conversation of the show. I actually thought he and his wife were incredibly likable. No doubt. But he quit on the Falcons. He did. He quit on the Falcons, and that ended him in the show.

So she is annoying as hell. Thank God we didn't get the brother pretty much at all. And if you know cousins, I know cousin, like, I didn't learn that much from watching him. Oh, I think I did. Well, let me just say this. I was glad that a lot of people learned a lot about him. And he was, I think, you know, he was the star of the show. ultimately because it was such a surprise to so many people he's a different quirky guy oh yeah he always

he is but he's he's a tough son of a bitch period i mean he is tough and he doesn't get credit enough and he's a pro yeah yeah he's a pro yeah he's not zero and 28 did go to new orleans playoff game many people have that that was the highlight uh i actually think with brian flores because they were the worst defensive team in the league last last year and won 13 games. I think Flora's in them being aggressive, more aggressive, and adding Davenport and keeping DeNeil Hunter,

he's got to stay healthy. I still like them to win that division. I do. Because they're going to be lethal offensively. Like they were last year. I mean, adding Addison to that, and I don't think they're losing a lot in losing Cook. I think Madison's really good. Yeah, I just

go back and look at the good to bad with Cook. It's just, yeah, go ahead. To me, their defense, they have to be better. So in the NFC, if we... You're going to say to fill the playoff spots? I'm going to ask you, who's the third best team? Seattle.

You're going to say Dallas? I don't want to say Dallas, especially after Jerry Jones, you know. I like... I really like Seattle. Look at how good they... How happy they were since somebody left town. Yeah, I think there are a lot of teams that are... It's a possibility, and you've picked one of them.

sure. I mean, I actually think New Orleans has talent. And I'm not a big Derek car guy, and I actually thought Dalton played well for them. You know, if Mark, if Ingram doesn't run out of bounds in that Monday night game against Tampa, they would have been in the postseason, and they would have beat, they could have beaten Dallas in the Superdome in that first, that Monday night game that they played at Tampa. Yeah. And so I kind of like New Orleans to be the team in that division. And I think Minnesota's going to be really...

How long until Heineke starts in Atlanta? Oh, I don't know. I mean, if... I'm not... I just want to see that team. I love Arthur Smith as a play call. So do I. I really... I think it's a perfect fit for Ritter. That's what I was saying. Like, I actually believe in Ritter

because of Arthur Smith. Yeah. Who gets the first pick? Next year? I mean, it's got to be Arizona, right? I think Tampa's worse Well everybody believes I've never seen more of a consensus

on the worst team in the NFL going into a season It's Arizona Like every mock draft for next year Has Arizona picking By the way, not only number one but number two You know Tampa should be bad I don't you know

What about the Rams? I told you this a couple years ago I actually always thought Kyle Trask looked like an NFL quarterback He's big, he's tough he can throw the football. And I did read the other day that it's tightening up. Oh, I believe that's tight.

No, 100%. Why? Why do you believe it? I would have thought. I don't know. Baker's going to say all the good things and the right things, but still when it gets down to doing it on the field, he hasn't.

He hasn't. And why would they go with that when they have a guy to, maybe he is the guy. in Trask. Yeah. I just, I see the wildcars the Rams. But I don't think Stafford can throw the football. Exactly, that's what I'm saying.

Like I thought you were saying they're going to be a wild card. No, the wild card to be the number one pick. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, we were talking about this this morning because I said, I mean, they wanted to deal Stafford because clearly he has an injury that probably is not going to ever allow him to throw the ball the way he used to throw it. Maybe, I don't know. And I was wondering who the backup was, and I thought it was that guy Wolford. It's not at Stidham. And remember, you know who likes Stidham?

What's his face? The Raiders coach, former Broncos coach, Josh McDaniel. But he got rid of him. He signed him last year and was talking a lot about him during that year. And by the way, he came in. He came in and started a primetime game, I think, too. He came in and started for Carl when they, didn't he? Wouldn't it Stittam and they came in? Yeah. I think it was. Yep. Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. Two years after a Super...

It's worth it to have made that trade. They won the Super Bowl. No doubt. No doubt. All right, more coming up with Steve right after these words from a few of our sponsors. If you have a moment to rate us and review us,

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I do enough of that at work. Yeah, I think you do a little bit of that at work. It's still the one thing that we both care about more than anything. I know. I know. Although, and you and I haven't talked in a few weeks, we have not talked since the ownership thing became finalized here. I was surprised at my personal reaction.

I've told you before, and Scott knows this, that it wasn't that I had checked out. I just didn't have the passion like I used to. You know, Snyder sucked it out of the entire. city when we saw Josh Harris up there with Goodell and that Thursday when he was voted, you know, unanimously in and it was the realization of Snyder actually is gone. It was, it was, it was uplifting. I mean, it's a big uplifting thing for this city. Yeah. And I mean, because it just was held hostage by this guy for a quarter century. And really not the entire

of the quarter century, but the last five to ten years for sure. And, you know, you know some of these new people. Yeah. And here's what I'll say. Being an outsider moving here three years ago, I grew up in the 80s. It was Giants and Redskins.

Like I respected that. Joe Gibbs is a god to me as far as my dad being a coach, and upcoming and knowing what he thought it Gibbs and seeing what happened down here. And I just always had them in, I always had the Redskins in that nine or tier in that cow you know and when I I on the outside I never knew how bad it was down here.

I never knew like there's just no buying and I think I'm with you. I saw a flip of a switch and I'm super pumped to be in this area because you talk about people that are starving. Yeah. They are starving for it and I'm hoping all the best for it. You know, it's going to be a lot harder than, you know, Joe Gibbs made it look. But I think the first thing is that cloud is gone, and now it's just positive, positive. Now, you know, can they just go play any games anywhere else besides that dump?

No, not for a while. They rent out somewhere. Let's see if Baltimore will, we can schedule like the Jets and Giants do. Well, you know what? I mean, the joke was the last couple of years. that given that they only drew about 20 to 25,000, they could have played at Audi Field. And that thing is phenomenal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Into that place? You know what? You said something, and I asked Scott about this last week, and I've asked Sands and others about it. And I've noticed this over the years. The Friday morning after Josh Harris was ratified, Sports Center led with messy and I think it was Ray's Orioles.

and you just said you didn't realize how bad it was until you came down here. And I don't think, I think a lot of the NFC East fan bases, the cowboy fan base, giant fan base, I think Eagle fan base knew how bad it was because they were kind of close to it twice. And they would all come here to go to a game. And they knew what it was, the whole thing. And they'd come in here and take the stadium over. But nationally, I don't think people ever really had a clue. And it's funny because Sands, who obviously is a massive fan, and still, you know, he wouldn't, he didn't understand why I didn't feel the same way.

And I said, it's because you don't live here. You're not living the day to day. People out that move away like Scott, like Sands. And Scott lost his passion a long time ago because he was more interested, as many are in what kind of three-team parlay he was going to whip up at 1258 PM. on a Sunday. But the, you know, I think there's this badge of honor thing. When you move outside of your home market, you kind of want to, you know, fly the flags of the teams you root for.

And so you don't bail on them as much. When you're here and you're feeling it day to day, you know, it's basically F you. Yeah. If I've had it. I'm not spending another dime on this dude. Anyway. All right. What else?

Who do you make the favorite? Legler still has a bet. First guy to go to a game. Tim, Tim's. Van Pell or Sheen? I'm going to go to the opener. You are? Yeah. I'm going to the opener.

I had you. I had you. It was a pick him. It was a pickum. Did he make that bet when we were out to dinner that night? No. Did he put that out there? No, it's been a conversation whenever he comes in studio with Scott.

He's like, I'm getting one of you two to Conno again. I was like, you're going to get Shee in before he gets Scott. I'm going to go to the guy. I'm going to go to the show. the opener, and I forgot, I'm going to, I'll call him. He is, he's been a devotee, man. He has been, but again, living outside the market, you know, somebody like Tim, had he been living here doing all of what he'd been from here, he would have been, there's no way he would have been at FedEx Field as many times as he's been there.

No. You know? He'll still be there. But I'm going to the, Scott won't go to the opening. No chance. I mean, actually, there wasn't much of a chance I thought I was going to go under. I told, I told legs, the only way you would get Pell a chance to go is if it was a playoff game. Yeah, because it would be an event. Correct.

Yeah. Which really this town is, as you know. It's an event town. It didn't used to be that way because of the passion for the football team. I went to one event game last year, and I don't think I'm going back. That was UCLA coming to play. Oh, yeah, that was bad. That was bad one.

You should have gone to the Illinois game that Scott and I went to. I'll be sitting in the rafters. That was, I go to the Xbox. Yeah, but you've been there for on big nights. You were there. Your first big night, I remember when it was. It was the Georgetown game. Yeah.

That place was lit. Yeah. All right. What should I promote anything? What are you doing today or the rest of the week? I'll call Scott and let him know what he's. I'll ask him when he's coming back to work. I mean, from his Johnny Carson-Lent vacation.

There you go. Appreciate this. Thank you. All right. Stanford Steve, everybody. I'll be back early next week. Have a good weekend. Three shirts for the Redskins.

Fared so much. And hell, we're going to go a long ways together. But here's George Allen. Thank you.