The Kevin Sheehan Show - Surprising Exit For Biadasz

Episode Date: February 28, 2026

Kevin opened with the surprising news that the Commanders' starting center the last two years, Tyler Biadasz, is going to be released. Steve Suter jumped on to talk about Biadasz' 2025 season based on... his film plus discuss whether or not his replacement is currently on the roster. Kevin finished up with the "Cradle of Coaches" football school is the last remaining basketball unbeaten.   For all your football betting needs: DCRELOAD at MyBookie for a 50% Deposit Match Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Sheehan Show. He is Kevin. One guest with me on the show today, Steve Suter will jump on in the next segment to tell us based on his film analysis this year
Starting point is 00:00:19 if he thinks Tyler Beaudish should have been released based on performance. The show's presenting sponsor is always, Window Nation, 86690 Nation or Windonation. if you need new windows. So since the show ended yesterday, I'm sure you all know by now, the surprising news that the starting center
Starting point is 00:00:42 for our football team the last two years, Tyler Biotish, is going to be released by the team. I mean, who had that? Nobody is the answer. And if somebody claims to have had that, check the timestamp. A big surprise for everybody,
Starting point is 00:00:58 certainly for me as well. I thought he had a decent season. You know, we'll get Steve's recap of Tyler Beaudish's season based on the games that he did film breakdown for. Now, he did, you know, for this podcast, the Green Bay game in week two through the first Philadelphia game in December. He did not do the opener against the Giants, the cowboy game on Christmas Day, or the Eagle season finale. But we'll get what his thoughts are on Tyler's performance this year, and by the way, whether or not there is somebody on the roster who can replace him. But, you know, per some of the advanced, you know, numbers like PFF, he had a good
Starting point is 00:01:42 season. He was top half of the league. I mean, among centers who played at least in half the games this year, so more than eight games, he was 12th overall among centers. His run blocking ranked 11th. His pass blocking ranked 15th. I I thought he was fine. Now, I'll concede that it was easy to, you know, almost ignore the offensive line play this year because it was consistently the best part of the team during a very dismal season. The numbers actually bear that out. The offensive line was a good offensive line.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Per true media, Washington's O line allowed 208 pressures all season long. That was seventh fewest in the league. So why? Why is Tyler Biotish getting released? I think it comes down to money. You know, he signed a three-year deal in 2024 that paid him an average of $9.7 million per year. That was the eighth highest for his position center in the NFL in 2025 per spot track. The last year of his deal, which is 2026, was going to be worth between $8 and $9 million to the team in cash. But it was not guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:03:04 So he signed this three-year deal, which was really a two-year deal, because the first two years were guaranteed. Year three was not guaranteed. If he had played this season at between $8 million per year, it would have still kept him in the top seven to eight among centers in the league. Based on the deals that are done right now, there may be one or two or three new ones,
Starting point is 00:03:29 to add to it. So one can assume that they did this because they didn't think he was worth that amount. You know, it's possible that they went to him and asked for a restructure or maybe to do a new deal, to do a contract extension where, you know, they restructure the final year of the deal so that it made sense to them. Remember this, by the way, I don't want to forget this. He was put on injured reserve for the season finale against Philadelphia with an ankle and knee injury suffered, they say, in the Dallas game. But if you recall at the end of the year, a lot of those players, a lot of their best players, were finding their way to injured reserve, which I thought made a lot of sense. I thought they should have put some of those players on injured reserve even earlier. The cap savings with his release with a pre-June 1st cut is about $2.8 million.
Starting point is 00:04:30 This to me would seem to have less to do with cap savings and more to do with cash outlay. They don't think he's worth it in terms of $8 to $9 million in cash outlay for one season, the last season on his deal. That's the conclusion I would come to that it's more about the cash than that. the cap savings and that they probably think they can either do better or at least do as well with somebody else at the same cost or less money. What's next? Nick Allegretti started the final game at Center.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I thought, you know, over the last month or so, that it was possible that Allegrety, who was going to be about a three and a half to four million dollar cap savings if he got cut, I thought he was a prime cut candidate, along with Latimore and Duran Payne. They're not going to cut Duran Payne, and it now looks like, I mean, I don't know this for sure, but that Allegretti might stay because he's the one on the roster that's played center. I mean, I don't think their plan is to draft a center in what would be, you know, the third, fifth, sixth, or seventh rounds, because they don't have picks in the second or fourth, and they're not using a first round pick on a center, you would think.
Starting point is 00:05:57 So, yeah, Aligretti's on the roster right now. We'll get Steve to tell us whether or not he thinks that's a good answer for Beattish being gone. Look, for me, I can't really judge this until I know what the solution is. I mean, they're not playing a game next week. It's the end of February. we haven't even started free agency. We're two months away from the draft. I can't judge this until I know what the solution is.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And even then, I mean, this is one of those positions that is hard for us. You know, we can watch quarterback, wide receiver, running back, pass rushers, and have at least, you know, a slight clue as to why things are being done. Interior offensive linemen, not easy. you know, centers, not easy. There are a lot of responsibilities that centers have. Now, I was going back and just looking at various quotes from Quinn about Beaudish over the course of the year. He liked Beaudish.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Now, Quinn's not going to throw any of his players under the bus. It's one of the reasons Dan Quinn was one of two coaches in the NFL to get an A-plus on those NFLPA report cards. He and Sean McVeigh, who were the only A-pluses. By the way, I'll just mention it right now. I don't think that's a result of, you know, club med or Dan Quinn's just so easy on them. I think it's because they legitimately respect the man as a leader and somebody who holds people accountable. I think that's what it. It doesn't mean he's a, you know, a top two X's and O's coach, but he's only one of two with an A plus ranking.
Starting point is 00:07:44 We talked about this yesterday, but we didn't have some of the specifics. I can go through some of those here to end the first segment if I have some time. But, yeah, I'm going to wait to judge based on their solution, but even then, you know, it will be easiest to judge when they can judge, and that is when we see some results. So Tommy and I used to say something when we would have conversations about the football team with all of you. Like, you know, all of our conversations, and when I say ours, yours, the people like us in sports media, you know, the community of Washington Redskins fans,
Starting point is 00:08:28 Washington football team fans, Washington commanders fans, that we would say it, you know, not all the time, but occasionally we would remind ourselves and all of you, you know, to have these conversations about the team, and this was during the Snyder years, we have. We have, have to suspend reality. We have to suspend the reality that no matter what we're talking about and we're having fun talking about it and we're debating as we're talking about it. And it's what we've all done together. You know, talk about the team, talk about the games, talk about the drafts, the free agency periods, the player performances, the coaches, the hirings, the firings, all of it. And we used to say that during the Snyder years, you'd have to suspend the reality that as long as he
Starting point is 00:09:17 owned the team, none of this really matters because they're never going to win. And that was true. You know, Dan Snyder was the worst owner in North American sports during his tenure here. And even in a league designed for the worst of franchises to every once in a while have a run. They never had a run with him. They had an occasional season, but they never had any sustained success over a period of a few years. So the conversation would be, you know, we do have to kind of suspend reality. The real world is, as long as he owns the team, they're never going to have a chance with what they build year and year out to have sustained success because he will
Starting point is 00:10:06 F it up somehow. I bring that up because I think, the Tyler Biotish, not that that's the case anymore at all, it's not new ownership, you know, new front office, it's a new day. I mean, even something as, you know, little or medium level of importance, these report cards from the NFLPA, you know, they certainly describe a much different franchise than the one that used to exist here. But the Tyler Biotish release is just another reminder to all. of us, you know, fans, media, and even more than that, people inside many of the NFL front offices and locker rooms, that it is so hard in all of our conversations to really know what
Starting point is 00:10:56 we're talking about, to know what's really going on, and certainly from a prediction standpoint, to have a clue as to how it will all play out when the season arrives. The NFL is the greatest reality show in television, in entertainment, certainly in sports, because it's basically week to week. You know, what it looks like this week is not what it's going to look like next week. That has to do with free agency, the draft games. Look, I think the thing where we get as close to knowing as anything else is actually when they begin to play games. And we can sit here on a Monday or Tuesday and have at least a partial
Starting point is 00:11:46 handle on what just happened in a game, the previous day or the previous night. And maybe we have a slight clue as to what might happen in the upcoming game. But then again, I mean, how many times does a team that got beat by 30 one week come back and win by the same amount the next week, where a team that won handily come back and lose to a much worse team the following week. I mean, this league is week to week. You know, it's one of the things I've kind of emphasized over a long period of time that it's really hard to know anything. And because of that, it's really hard to predict.
Starting point is 00:12:29 It doesn't stop us from doing it. It doesn't stop the conversations. We like talking about the team. We like to have opinions about college players and free agents. But man, a Tyler Beattish release, it just is another reminder that behind the scenes, we have no clue what's going on, have no clue. And as far as like all of the draft conversations that are going on right now, they may be the most entertaining from this standpoint that literally 70% of it is going to be
Starting point is 00:13:06 all wrong. It's not even going to be close to right. I mean, I talked about this a little bit on radio today. I mean, just think about this past NFL season. I mean, a total, you know, crazy season. Nobody had Seattle and New England. Two 60 to one preseason favorites to win the Super Bowl in the Super Bowl, certainly not the Patriots. Nobody had the Chiefs going six and eleven and the Bears going 11 and 6. And I mentioned this as a real example of how we just don't know anything. Imagine that somebody last August, before the regular season of 2025 began, said to you,
Starting point is 00:13:53 you know who's going to be the number one 2026 free agent, a guy that four or five teams are going to be fighting over to pay, you know, 100 to 150, million dollars over three years for, Malik Willis. I mean, I went through this on the radio as well. Before the season began, the givens, according to all of the draft experts, in terms of first round quarterbacks, were Cade Clubnick, Clemson, Garrett Nussmeier, LSU, and Arch Manning, Texas. I mean, you can't make that up. That's basically, those were the three quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:14:41 No discussion of Fernando Mendoza. No discussion of Ty Simpson, the two that will likely get taken in the first round. No, it was Nussmeyer, it was Klubnik, it was Archmanning, it was Sellers at South Carolina, it was Carson Beck, although he wasn't a projected first rounder, he was the year before. it just doesn't typically turn out the way we're discussing it right now. And that right now goes for free agency and the draft. And then it'll be during the summer how we're seeing the season, you know, unfold. And it won't unfold that way. But it's not stopping us from having these conversations.
Starting point is 00:15:26 What else are we going to do? They're fun. It's fun to guess. It's fun to predict. I just was so floored when I saw the Tyler Beaudish thing, and it just was a reminder again, yeah, we don't know anything. There are some people that really think they know. The only thing I know, I know each weekend during the NFL and college football season, I know more often than not in most years which teams are going to cover the number.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Hashtag smell test. but even that is not a retirement strategy. That's for sure. No, it isn't. Anyway, Tyler Beattish, gone, crazy. Some interesting news today, NFL-wise and our football team-wise. First of all, Washington is promoting David Rye, their tight-ends coach, to pass game coordinator. That left an opening at tight ends and Ben Steele. has been hired by Washington to be their tight ends coach.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Ben Steele spent the past three years with the Cardinals, by the way, they have one of the best tight ends in the game in Trey McBride. So David Ryd, a past game coordinator, he's an impressive coach, everybody believes. And then they hired Ben Steele out of Arizona to be the tight ends coach in Washington. So that's some of the coaching news. We knew that some of that stuff was still in play after Brian Johnson left in particular. Nikki Javala had the NFLPA report card specific to all of the categories
Starting point is 00:17:19 and the grades for Washington. I think we talked about on yesterday's show that Washington finished third behind Miami and Minnesota with the best overall report card, quite the change from where we were a few years ago. Dan Quinn was one of just two coaches with an A-plus grade. Sean McVeigh was the other. But here were the categories and grades in this NFL Players Association report card that was not supposed to get released, and it wasn't, but it did get leaked.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Treatment of Families, Washington B-plus. Home field, B-plus. That seems like a stretch. Team travel B minus. This was the lowest grade tied with another B minus. I'll tell you about in a moment. Food and dining, A minus. Nutritionist, dietician, A minus.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Locker room B, training room A minus, training staff A, weight room A. Strength coaches, A plus. Position coaches B plus. Offensive coordinator, Cliff Kingsbury, B plus. defensive coordinator Joe Witt Jr. for a big portion of the season, B-minus. So Joe Witt, Jr. and the team travel were the lowest grades, but still B-minuses. Special teams coordinator, Larry Hess, A-minus, head coach, A-plus.
Starting point is 00:18:47 General manager, A, team ownership, A-plus. Remember in that first report card, all of the Fs, Washington was at the bottom of of the league. You just have to give some credit you do to Josh Harris and the ownership group, for sure, because players don't view Washington that way anymore. And if you are, you know, minimizing this thing or minimizing, say, Dan Quinn's A-plus grade or ownership's A-plus or the general manager's A-grade, keep in mind, these are separators when it comes to things like free agency
Starting point is 00:19:29 and a player has some choices. In the past, for a long period of time, if a player had a choice, they weren't coming here for the most part. Now, they did come here in the first nine years, 10 years of Snyder's ownership, because they paid so well. But the last, you know, 12, 13 years of his ownership,
Starting point is 00:19:52 no, this was the place of last refuge, of last resort. So yeah. The NFL announced that the salary cap will be $301.2 million. So as an example, it was $279,200,200 last year. So you're talking about a $22 million increase. I will just remind everybody because, you know, know, when the conversations about things like, you know, the 18th game come up, everybody seems
Starting point is 00:20:32 to jump to, well, what are the players going to get? Well, the players in this $22 million salary cap increase, get 48.5% of that. They are revenue share partners. 48.5% of top line revenue goes to the players. And this is how it gets distributed via the salary cap increases, which means more salary available to the players. You add an 18th game and it means more revenue, hence more money for not just the owners. People always focus on that, but the players as well. Now, I'm not saying the players shouldn't negotiate on an 18th game. I'm not saying that they shouldn't take safety and health into consideration and forego their 48.5% stake in whatever the incremental TV and media money would be for an 18th game because maybe the safety and the health
Starting point is 00:21:36 and all of those things outweigh the incremental revenue. But they participate in all revenue. So at an 18th game, add a lot of revenue. And they get their share. of it. I do think that they should, at the very least, look for increased roster sizes, and an extra buy week, even though that may throw the President's Day Super Bowl thing off by a week. We might be still right now in an 18-game schedule with two buys. I think we'd be playing the Super Bowl this weekend. Anyway, other NFL news real quickly, the Cowboys are tagging Pickens. He's
Starting point is 00:22:24 got the tag on him and I'm telling you that's going to be a long drawn out affair. A long drawn out affair because it's the way Jerry does it. I would bet that if he gets a long-term contract extension, it is a few days before the regular season begins in September. I can't imagine he's thrilled to be playing on the tag. He wants a contract in the Jamar Chase,
Starting point is 00:22:48 Justin Jefferson territory. He probably believes he has earned it, but he's not even the number one, number one on his own team. C.D. Lamb is. I'm sure the Cowboys are going to say, remember that T. Higgins contract? That's what we think you're worth. But it's closer between Pickens and Lamb in Dallas than it is with Chase and Higgins. Chase is the clear cut number one. All right. I do want to find out what Steve Souter has looked at today in terms of of Tyler Beaudish's grades, whether or not he thinks Nick Allegretti would be an acceptable replacement. We'll get to him right after these words from a few of our sponsors. Hey guys, new sponsor on the podcast this week. I want you to pay attention to Mando. Mando is a whole
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Starting point is 00:26:45 and don't pay anything for two full years. All right. Joining me right now, Steve Souter, Steve did film breakdown all season long and was excellent. You guys loved him. And I reached out to him to let him know that Tyler Biotish had been released. And, you know, I got several tweets from people saying, you know, there were definitely some games in which Steve Suter wasn't impressed. But you went back and looked at your kind of overall offensive line grades. And let's just be clear for those that are listening for the first time. Steve started with week two against Green Bay and did through the first Philadelphia game.
Starting point is 00:27:25 He did not do the last two games, the Cowboys game on Christmas Day or the Philadelphia game a week later. That's because Steve was enjoying himself skiing out west, which was much better than doing film breakdown of two meaningless games. But when I told you that Tyler Biotish was on the verge of being released, you went back and kind of looked at some of your grades and looked at the season. So what do you think? I'm stunned. I think it's got to be a cat play, in my opinion. It's not a performance play.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I think he was one of the better linemen, the most consistent linemen all season for the team. And I went back, looked at my numbers to see if I was accurate, because that was my gut feeling. and I had him in the top performer, the Raiders game, Chargers game, Bears game, Seahawks game, Broncos game, Vikings game, and that first Philly game. That's a lot of games. He was only in the bottom for me score-wise, the Lions game and the Dolphins game. He got handled in the Lions game. I remember us talking about that on the podcast. Those guys were big up front and they took it to him there. But other than that, then I even went back and I, added every score for those main five linemen that the commanders have. Added that up, went to the total snap count, subtracted the first game that I didn't do, subtracted games they didn't play in.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Anyway, I got a per-play breakdown, and he is my highest-graded lineman on a per-play basis for the total of the season. It's very close, but he edges out, Chris Paul and Tunsell. So if you want to put a label on it, he was their best linemen all season. So I don't think they're a better offensive line team for sure. You mentioned you and I were texting and you told, I said, well, who played center
Starting point is 00:29:18 the last game? And he told me it was Allegheny. I said, oh, my gosh, in my head, I said, no way. So I have quickly today just tried to run through the last Philadelphia game to watch Al Goretti and see how he did at Center. I'm only into the third quarter. It is a lot quicker though when I'm only watching one player. But he's not the answer at Center.
Starting point is 00:29:37 So they didn't make this move because they think Aligretti's better. There's no way they did that. He is a guard playing center, and it's evident. He's bigger, so maybe he's stronger, but in the same hand, he's less athletic. He doesn't have a prayer making plays in space. He can't get to the second level. When he gets to the second level, he's just going to get juke, and somebody that was cut off him. He's probably never going to touch anybody on the second level under the double team.
Starting point is 00:30:06 So he's not the answer. They must have another trick up their sleeve or they're just saving a little cat's face there to make a move somewhere else. But all in all, you go into next season with Allegrety as a center, then you're not a better offensive line. Could the reason be, by the way, and I've already talked about it in the open to the show, I think ultimately there was a third year left on Beaudish's contract that was not guaranteed. My guess is, and it's only a guess, that they went,
Starting point is 00:30:37 to him to try to restructure that perhaps they wanted to keep him. But Beattish is, you know, and his agent said, no, I'm going to play on the third year deal. You can either release me or I'll play on that third year deal and become a free agent next year. You know, because, you know, whenever you get these players that are good players entering that last year of the contract, you know, you are at risk at losing them next year in free agency. But typically, you try to get something back for the player. If they're going to release the player, and it sounds like they will, the only thing they're getting back is some minimal salary cap savings. You know, it's not super minimal if they do a post-June 1.
Starting point is 00:31:17 It's like north of $8 million. But you're saying Allegretti's not the answer. I shared this with you that, you know, they hired or promoted David Blow, who was the assistant quarterback's coach to start the season, then became the quarterback's coach when Tevita Pritchard took the Stanford job. He got elevated to OC over Cliff Kingsbury. We haven't talked since Kingsbury got let go. And there's the promise of many more under-center snaps. Washington was dead last and under-center snaps in the NFL this year. And much more of a marrying run game, probably a zone-based run game,
Starting point is 00:31:58 to a play-action pass game and play-action bootleg game. would that be factoring it all based on what you've watched beatish do as a center? Do you think that they have less confidence that he'd be a better center in a new scheme? No, actually, my guts is the opposite. If I have a zone blocking scheme, I want a center that's athletic. And now I can't speak to the intelligence of both of these players. And if you're comparing him to Allegheny and Biottich, I can't speak to that. I'm not in the rooms.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I don't know what's going on from that standpoint of their intelligence level. But a zone block is being requires a lot more coaching and much more of a cerebral offensive line because you need to be on point with the guy that you're zone blocked with, whether it's on the right or the left. So you need a lot of reps with those players. The coaching has to be really well and you have to be really well receiving the coaching. And then you're in more space. So you need to be more athletic.
Starting point is 00:33:00 So Aligretti is bigger, but he's slower, he's ophier, he's not better than Beiotic from a lateral standpoint of movement and agility. So I got to say no, I don't think that's the answer or the reason why at all. Unless they got their eye on somebody in the draft or they got their eye on somebody in pre-agency that they think is a better fit, I think this is strictly a cat play or a money-saving play because it doesn't make sense from a personnel standpoint. of putting a product on the field, Biotich's was good, is good, and I think you probably hit it right on that. They probably tried to talk to him.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And he said, no, I just put a really good film on tape for 2025. And if you cut me, I'm going to hand that tape to 12 other teams, and somebody's going to give me a contract off of that film. So he probably did stand his ground, rightfully so.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And that's where I would stand there. Yeah, I mean, he was under contract, though, for one more year. so you could have just let him play out the last year of the conference. Yeah, that's odd. You know, they re-signed Andrew Wiley. That's something that they've done here prior to free agency, which starts basically in 12 days.
Starting point is 00:34:15 There is a lot of reporting, and they've even sort of admitted that they're actually going to keep Duran Payne on the last year of his deal. They're not going to extend it. He's going to count basically $28 million against the case. cap next year, but they're going to keep him. They're trying to extend Tunsel. There's no doubt about that because he's got a year left on his deal and, you know, he had an outstanding year at a premium position.
Starting point is 00:34:42 But yeah, all right. Well, I mean, I'm not sure that you could say more about the Beaudish situation. The bottom line is you're very surprised. I'm stunning. So another thing, maybe it's hard to tell, but you can't watch it on film. You can't tell on all twice you. what the accountability or responsibility for protection and calling protections is between center and quarterback. Some teams rely mostly on the center to do it and vice versa.
Starting point is 00:35:13 So could it be a situation where Beonich was calling protections wrong and he had the majority or the bulk of the responsibility in doing so? That could be a thing. But I think you would see that more on film than we did. protection breakdowns when I was watching film. I don't think I could pinpoint it to the wrong call majority. But so, yeah, I'm shocked. And I'm shocked they're keeping pain.
Starting point is 00:35:38 That's an easy $28 million I put in my pocket. Yeah. And it would have been about a $17 to $18 million cap savings hit. I've talked a lot about your thoughts. That is stunning. Yeah. On pain. I think, you know, I think there are a couple of things at work here with Duran.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I think number one is that they don't have much defensively. They have a lot of holes to fill defensively. That's number one. Number two is his best season by far was his last season going into a contract year. That was his stick in that. Yeah, that was his standout year. Number three is, if you can't trade him, and my sense is that they can't trade him, they're not going to get enough for him to try to deal them.
Starting point is 00:36:25 you know, even a conditional third round, conditional day three pick, you'd probably get more back in a comp pick. If he plays well this year, hits free agency in 2027, and signs elsewhere, you let him go. And then the compensation pick you get back may actually be more than, well, it would be more than nothing. And it might be more than what they can trade him for today. So those are the reasons that make sense to me.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And by the way, the defensive coordinator, they hired. Here's something that there are a couple of things actually, now that I have you on the phone, I'll ask you about. But they went to a Brian Flores assistant coach, the Minnesota defensive coordinator. You were super impressed with the Minnesota defense and Brian Flores. They hired Durante Jones to be the defensive coordinator, first time defensive coordinator, but with Brian Flores. And one of the things that was interesting, even though they crowded the line of
Starting point is 00:37:25 and you weren't sure what they were in. Their base defense is a 3-4, and they were in base defense more than any defense in the league last year. And to me, Duran's not a nose tackle. Do you agree with that? Yeah. Why are you laughing? I just, I don't want them on my field.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I just need better effort from a player of that caliber or what he should have been. So I'm chuckling. because sometimes he does flash. I don't know. It's frustrating with him. Yeah. I hope you get the contract year play out. I don't say that.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Is he a better 3-4 defensive end? Is he better suited for that? Or is he better as a 4-3D tackle? Yeah, I'm a 4-3D tackle for him. Okay. What about the end of the year? You guys were plugging everybody in at the end, trying to find somebody because everybody got hurt.
Starting point is 00:38:23 He was horrible out there on the outside. So I don't want him rushing a pass it from the outside because he can barely do it from the inside. What about Kenlaw? 3-4D-N or 4-3D tackle? I like him as a 4-3D tackle too, but I wouldn't, yeah, I don't want to say you'd be waging him there as a nose. He's good, though. He's a player that I think is versatile enough that he'll make it work wherever you put him. And it comes down to effort and play style.
Starting point is 00:38:54 and I think he could probably fit both. But do you see him as Zero Technique, Nose Tackle in a 3-4? You don't see him doing that, do you? I don't. I don't. But where is he going to put him? I mean, no, I would like him more on the outside. He needs to be going up against guards.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I don't want him to mess out here. I don't want him just stone in a center. Yeah, I don't like that. You know, I went back and looked because you actually, gave Eddie Goldman a good grade in a couple of games. And when they were in that five-man front, he played on the nose, as a nose, more than anybody on defense, even though he played a lot fewer snaps defensively than everybody else. And he's an unrestricted free agent, and I've kind of been keeping my eye on him to see if they
Starting point is 00:39:48 resign him. And if they do, it's probably for that reason, because Johnny Newton is in a lot of a nose tackle either, right? Yeah. The problem is they're just, they haven't excelled anywhere. No. It's tough to, Frank, it's tough to say you're, you should be here or you should be there
Starting point is 00:40:08 when I haven't seen you well in any of those positions. I mean, maybe Newton could shine there because he hasn't shined. You know, that's the three technique. It's, and Goldman either. I mean, I know I had a couple good grades on me. He had a couple
Starting point is 00:40:24 good flashy plays. You know, can he be more consistent? And I would agree he's a bigger body, so he may be more of that no situation. So if they do sign him, you'd probably write for that purpose. Yeah. You know, Dorrance Armstrong got hurt in the Dallas game, missed the rest of the season. But he's a guy entering the last year of his deal. I mean, I would imagine they're not going to move on from Armstrong.
Starting point is 00:40:54 strong. No chance, right? Even coming up that injury. I love them. I love them, but the injury is such an X-factor. I've seen plenty of guys come back off of it and do well, and I've seen it end careers. So that one's just kind of a crapshoot, and you'd have to be dialed in with the medical team and watching his rehab, I would anyway, if I was a GM looking to resign him. But as far as before he got hurt, one of your top players on defense, so if you can get that type of quality back, then heck yeah, bring him back.
Starting point is 00:41:26 So first time I've talked to you since Cliff Kingsbury parted ways with the team, they elevated David Blow, a guy that basically everybody identified the moment he retired from football and ended up on staffs, including the one here, that he was going to eventually be an offensive coordinator. And if Washington hadn't promoted him, he would be an OC somewhere in the league, probably Detroit, because Detroit was very interested in making him their next O.C. The difference in is that he comes from kind of the Shanahan, Kevin O'Connell, also the Ben Johnson scheme, but real quickly on Cliff, were you surprised to hear that they had parted ways with Cliff?
Starting point is 00:42:10 No, I wasn't. I didn't see much to, I just say I didn't give any second thought. No, when I heard about it, I said, yeah, that makes them. kind of just casually rolling off my shoulder there. I didn't think one way or the other, but I just think it makes, you know, you could convince me, yeah, that was the right move. I like the, what you're telling me about, more under center play action, I think. Right, obviously play action works better when you're on the center, so I think that's going to help Jaden for that aspect of the game.
Starting point is 00:42:41 RPO obviously works better out of the shotgun, but you can do less of that. And there's less risk, I think, in a play action versus RPO. So let's put him on her center and add that to his game. I think that's a good play. All right. What else? I mean, I know that I kind of put you to work a little bit this morning, but did you have anything else? I don't really.
Starting point is 00:43:09 All right. Guys, who's my focus there? I'm, again, stunned about that. You're telling me the other roster moves. I'm not paying for you like you are. I can't believe they're going to keep a pain. I don't want to beat the dead horse, but I think that's the money to find
Starting point is 00:43:23 somewhere. Who you think? I mean, we might talk before the draft, but I've been kind of paying attention to the mocks. I don't like doing that because nobody knows what's going to happen. You got your eye on anybody? You know, obviously I'm going to reach out to you to talk draft before,
Starting point is 00:43:41 but I think then, you know, yeah, I like Bailey from Texas Tech a lot. I want an impact full pass rusher. I want somebody who can wreck a game. And to me, he looks like that kind of a player and was that player in college.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I don't know if he's there at seven. You know, I'm going to have you back on after you've gotten, you know, sort of prepared for the draft. If you want to do it, you can do it. I think the next thing for us is to see what they do in free agency and then have, you know, from a film standpoint, maybe you break down some of their big free agent signings.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Like, I mean, you know, one of the things that, you know, is going on right now is that they've got 29 of their own, you know, unrestricted free agents. Now, it's less than that because, and they've got all these holes. I mean, they have the second fewest players under contract entering next year. So in addition to players on other rosters that are on the verge of becoming unrestricted, restricted free agents. Washington's got so many of their own, and they're going to re-sign some of their own. They've got to fill out a roster of 90 players by the time they get to minicamp. And, you know, this is where there have been a lot of conversations like Debo Samuel,
Starting point is 00:45:05 yes or no. I mean, you know, he's going to probably command a contract somewhere in the, you know, $13 to $15 million a year range. Zach Goertz, you know, he got injured late in the season. Bobby Wagner, some of the players that have been big contributors. Marcus Marioo is an unrestricted free agent. I think that's a no-brainer there. I mean, they may lose him because he may have an opportunity to compete for a starting job somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:45:33 But, you know, they've got a lot of their own guys, Jacob Martin, your favorite player. I mean, I think I can say that comfortably that Jacob Martin was the biggest reveal for you and maybe all of us during the regular season. You loved him as a player. He's a free agent. I did. Yeah, that's Chris Paul, too. He played well. He played well as control.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Chris Paul is too. Oh, you got to get him back. Yeah. He was my second best lineman from a per play breakdown standpoint of the season. Tunsel was third. Tunsel got hurt by the Packers game. He had a bad game against the Packers game. If not for that game, he's probably my number two as well.
Starting point is 00:46:11 But, yeah, you got to get Chris Paul back. the first players that you just mentioned, my gut said Mariotta as well, you'd be of the ones you said you might need to sign back between her, it's Wagner, and I forget about what she said, but Mariotto would be my focus there as well. Yeah, I mean, the question comes, they have so many needs on defense, but they also could use another explosive player or two offensively. And if you don't bring Debo back, you're going to be obviously heavy into free agency looking for, if you don't bring Debo and Ertz back,
Starting point is 00:46:47 Hertz, you know, with coming off the, you know, torn ACL, you've got to replace. Has he localized that he wants to come back? Yeah, he wants to play a 14th season. And he has said that he thinks he'll be ready by week one. But you certainly can't count on that. And we already know he's not an interested blocker. Yeah, at all.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Yeah, but they've got some, there's some really good tight ends in the league in free agency. The Falcons tagged Pits, so he's off the board, but Isaiah likely is out there. You know who's out there? You know who's out there? Chig O'Conquo. Oh, yeah. Close to home. I'm a fan of Chig. Always was. Me too. Yeah, that would be, yeah, I like these an athletic tight end.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah, and he's not just a pass-catching tight end. No, no. I like him. And he hasn't played with a quarterback. He's had no quarterback in Tennessee. Yeah, man, that would be here. That could be like, those sneaky little signs. He's not, does they have a great, you know, stats, like you said throughout his career, but you'd be like, where has this guy been all the time? And I think they see Senate and Bates as, you know, important players that can block
Starting point is 00:48:04 and can be past catchers in a, you know, zone run-based scheme with a lot of play action off of it. Yeah, I don't know if you remember one of the pockets, if I was in it, I'd have spent all offseason running routes. Because I think I would build around him versus Bates if I had to
Starting point is 00:48:24 pick one. I think Sin is probably the better blocker. Now, I remember Bates had he fell off late in the season for me, but I think you mentioned that he was playing banged up, which that could have caused it. However, I think if you had to pick one,
Starting point is 00:48:39 you'd pick and sin it, he should know that. so he needs to be running around to try to become more valuable as a past catcher. Otherwise, if you can go out and get one of those guys like Chig, and then send it to your number two, and Earth comes back, I would like that package. Yeah. I think the number of... You got a fun off season. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Oh, yeah. Well, the roster. Yeah. Second fewest players under contract, and they had, you know, arguably the worst defense in the league at the end of the year. Yeah. with so many holes. What about Reeves? Is he under contract?
Starting point is 00:49:13 You got to bring him back. I love that guy. Reeves... He's a great match and the secondary. Yeah, Reeves is under contract. Okay, good. He's not on the list. You know, just scrolling through it to see.
Starting point is 00:49:26 You know, I think they're going to definitely try to resign Traylon Burks. I think they really liked what they saw for him, and they picked him up off the street. I think... I would agree. That's a cheap price. Yep, bring him back for sure. You certainly think it is. But yeah, I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:49:42 To me, like going into this offseason, I was like, the offensive line was solid. You want to keep it intact, so bring Paul back. But now they've got two openings, center, and they've got this position that Chris Paul. Now, Brandon Coleman is under contract, and they probably see him and maybe even Allegretti as alternatives if they can't get Chris Paul signed.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Yeah. So my guts is, you're taking an L there if that happens. If Wiley's your starting guard or Allegrety's, you're starting guard, you're taking an L. Coleman would be my first choice out of those three, but still I'm taking Paul first at guard. Yeah. And he played well. You've got good film. Maybe that's why it's taking so long to sign him because other people are talking to him.
Starting point is 00:50:31 There's no doubt. I think there's a market for Chris Paul for sure. All right. Thanks for doing this. I'll reach out to you when they start signing free agents. Appreciate it. All right. Steve Suter, everybody. We'll finish up the show next talking about the cradle of football coaches university being undefeated in basketball. We'll get to that after these words from a few of our sponsors. Hey, guys, I introduced you recently to Thrive Market. I told you it's a product that I use that I think you should use too.
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Starting point is 00:53:34 A big weekend in college hoops coming up. Just not for the locals. The locals are pretty much out of it. We are on the verge, potentially, of the third year in the last 47 years of having none of the locals in the NCAA tournament. The third time in the last 47 years, if Maryland, Georgetown, AU, George Mason, GW, American, and Howard all miss out on the tournament. It's only happened three times in the last 47 years. The last time was 2022.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Right now, the best chance would be Howard in the Miak to win their conference tournament. A.U's got a shot to win their conference tournament, but nobody else really is going to be counted on. Maryland and Georgetown are major long shots, as is GW. And at this point, George Mason has lost a bunch of games in recent weeks, and they won't be anywhere near the favorite to win in the Atlantic 10. Navy is in first place in the Patriot League, but Navy isn't technically part of this group of DMV teams making it or not making it to the tournament. So, yeah, third time in the last 47 years in play for none of the locals,
Starting point is 00:54:57 true locals, to make the tournament. That said, Virginia tomorrow, not a local, but I know a lot of alums in the market. Virginia's ranked 11th in the country. Virginia has won now nine games in a row, trying to make it 10 tomorrow at Cameron Indoor. 12 noon tip on ESPN for Virginia at Duke. Virginia's got a chance to really increase their seating. Right now, a three or a four seed, but they got a chance to solidify a three. and go even higher. They are having one hell of a season, and Duke's ranked number one in the country
Starting point is 00:55:35 off of that win over Michigan last week, and then they had a midweek win as well in the ACC routing Notre Dame. It was Notre Dame's worst loss. They lost by 44 points at home to Duke. Also tomorrow, Kansas, 14th ranked team in the country with Jordan Peterson at Arizona, time they will play. That first time, I said Jordan Peterson, I meant Darren Peterson. That first game, remember, was the game that Darren Peterson had flu-like symptoms before the game began. Arizona was number one in the country in that moment. They'll play this game tomorrow at Arizona. Arizona's number two, Kansas number 14. I think I mentioned that. So two really good games tomorrow on the college slate. But tonight, you've got two games. One game starts at 6 o'clock. I will finish up with
Starting point is 00:56:36 that game here in a moment. And then at 8 o'clock, Michigan ranked third in the country, at Illinois, ranked 10th in the country. That is a huge national game and a big one in the big 10 for sure. But at 6 o'clock tonight, and the podcast may be not out quite in time, but that's not really the point anyway. Tonight, 21st ranked Miami University, not the University of Miami, but Miami University, the one in Ohio, the Red Hawks,
Starting point is 00:57:11 they will put their 28 and O record on the line at Western Michigan. They are the remaining only undefeated team in the country. They are 28-0. They play tonight at, Western Michigan on the CBS Sports Network. Miami, by the way, favored by 11 and a half at MyBooky. So if you want to bet the Red Hawks, or maybe you want to bet Western Mish,
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Starting point is 00:58:17 to finish the season undefeated heading into the NCAA tournament. Only one of the previous eight over the last 50 years actually stayed undefeated when the tournament began. And that was the last start-to-finish undefeated team, Bobby Knight's 1976, Indiana Hoosiers. 50 years ago, that team went undefeated. And that's the last time it's been done, even though we've had others that have gone undefeated and gone undefeated into the tournament. In fact, that year, 1976, Rutgers was unbeated. undefeated with Eddie Jordan, the Wizards coach on that team. They went to the final four and lost. Larry Bird's Indiana State team in 1979 was undefeated all the way until the championship game
Starting point is 00:59:07 when they got blown out by Michigan State. The 91 UNLV run and revs, I think, certainly the 90 and 91 UNLV teams in my lifetime, the best teams I've ever seen, they were undefeated until losing in the Final four to Duke. 2014, Wichita State took an undefeated record into the NCAA tournament. 2015, Kentucky did the same. And then the last team to do it was Gonzaga in 2021. They were undefeated heading into the big dance and lost in the title game to Baylor. Miami's going to be a heavy favorite in their last three regular season games,
Starting point is 00:59:49 and then they will be a heavy favorite to win the Mid-American Conference. tournament. So six games left to try to get to 34 and 0 heading into March Madness. Now, Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, if you don't know much about it, it is the quintessential Americana Midwest College town. I've been there several times. It is a beautiful setting for a university. I mean, it just kind of pops up in the middle of Ohio out of nowhere, red brick buildings. It's just a beautiful campus. A lot of East Coast kids end up at Miami of Ohio. And the tradition at that university is football, but it's not necessarily results on the field. It has to do with the great coaches who are alums of Miami
Starting point is 01:00:46 University. That school has been dubbed over the years, the cradle of coaches. Eleven bronze statues can be found on a plaza right next to their football stadium. Those 11 bronze statues include one of Paul Brown, Weeb Eubank, Araparsijian, Bo Schembeckler, John Harbaugh, the new head coach of the New York Giants, and Sean McVeigh. Yeah, Sean went to Miami of Ohio. More than 100 Miami University graduates have gone on to work in coaching or admin roles at colleges or at the professional level in football, and over 30 currently serve as college or pro head coaches. Over the past six decades, more than 20 coaches with Miami roots have been recognized as national coaches of the year.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Miami University, the cradle of football coaches. But basketball is the story this year, and it really came out of nowhere. They were 25 and 9 last year, a good team last year, but before last year, Miami had 14 losing seasons in 15 years. They are currently the second highest scoring team in the country behind Alabama, and they've rolled up a hundred or more points seven times this year. Seven times this year they've gone for a hundred or more in a game. But listen to this, they're not a lock for the tournament.
Starting point is 01:02:24 They are currently an 11 seed in Lunardi's recent ESPN Bracketology. Some believe that if they lose more than one game before the NCAA tournament pairing show airs, what would it be three weeks from Sunday, that they won't be in the field. So if they were to lose one of these final three regular season games and then one in the Mac tournament, they're not a Mac tournament champion, there are many people that believe that they would not be in the field. Their schedule is terrible. I mean, God-awful.
Starting point is 01:02:59 They've played three division three teams. So those games don't even count. They are technically, you know, for the purposes of the selection committee, a 25-0 team right now, not a 28-0 team. They're currently 82nd in Ken Palm and 48th in the net rankings. They don't have one quad-one opponent, let alone a win. Imagine that they lose one of these three regular season games and then a conference tournament game and they're 32 and two when they're left out. People think that it could happen.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I think it seems like now they can lose one game between now and the NCAA tournament, but if they lose two, they're likely out. Now, a 34-0 record, if they finish out undefeated, three regular season, three tournament wins and a Mack tournament championship, they would be a projected eight-seed in the draw. I have no idea, by the way, if they are good or not. I have not watched them, but they can really see. score, that's for sure. So keep an eye on Miami of Ohio or Miami University. The Red Hawks one time Miami was the Redskins. They were the first, I think, among the teams with Native
Starting point is 01:04:22 American team nicknames to change. The pressure was much greater in the world of academia in colleges than it was at the pro level. All right. That is it for the show today, back on Monday.

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