The Kevin Sheehan Show - Terry-Diggs: A Top 10 Duo?

Episode Date: August 7, 2026

Kevin opened with plenty more on Stefon Diggs to the Commanders. He shared his hunch on how the pass targets would be spread around in 2026. He also sized up Terry McLaurin and Stefon Diggs in terms of where they rank as a WR duo in the NFL. Also on the show, recent Stefon Diggs thoughts on the podcast from Kirk Cousins, Scott Turner, and Logan Paulsen plus the rest of Kevin's conversation with Warren Sharp.   For all your football betting needs: DCRELOAD at MyBookie for a 50% Deposit Match   Chime is not just smarter banking, it is the most rewarding way to bank. Head to www.Chime.com/SHEEHAN. It only takes a few minutes to sign up.   New Cash App customers can earn $10 if they use code FAMILY10 in their profile at signup and send $5 to a friend within 14 days. Terms apply.   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Sheehan Show. He is Kevin. No Tommy on today's show. He's taking some vacation time through next week, so we won't be back until the week after next.

However, on the show today, you'll hear from Kirk Cousins, Scott Turner, and Logan Paulson, all of whom have weighed in on Stefan Diggs on this podcast. over the last five to six months. The show's presenting sponsor, as always, Window Nation, 86690 Nation, windownation.com if you need new windows. Also on the show today, the rest of my conversation with Warren Sharp.

He was so good on yesterday's show. If you did not listen to yesterday's show, go to the 4933 mark, the 49-3-3-3-second. Mark. That started my conversation with Warren Sharp. He was exceptional breaking down why Stefan Diggs to Washington makes sense. And he had a lot of advanced statistical information. We had a great conversation. In fact, it went on so long. I carved out about 15 minutes of it that I didn't play on yesterday's show that you will hear at the end of today's show.

Real quickly, to all of you who tweeted me or wrote me an email about how I messed up the Case Keenum nugget from yesterday show, yes, I did mess it up. Thank you for pointing that out. I mentioned that Case Keenum, who threw the Minneapolis Miracle touchdown pass to Stefan Diggs to win a playoff game over New Orleans in January of 2018, I mentioned that Case Keenum was gone from. Minnesota after that season. They lost the NFC title game the following week in Philadelphia, and then Kirk Cousins was signed by the Vikings, and I said that Case Keenham landed in Washington, where in his opener in 2018, he had a big game in Philadelphia in Terry McCoran's debut. That was inaccurate. 2018 was, of course, the Alex Smith season in Washington.

2019 was the Case Keenham season in Washington. By the way, he did have a very good first game. I went and looked it up. He threw for 380 yards in his first game as a Redskin quarterback in the season opener at Philadelphia. A game they lost 32 to 27. Deshawn Jackson was back in a Philly uniform and had a big day. And Terry in his debut, and we didn't know anything about Terry before that game. five catches, 125 yards, and a touchdown.

And Keenham missed Terry on what would have been another big one in the third quarter. But yes, thank you for pointing that out. I don't know how I got that one wrong. Alex Smith in 2018, Case Keenham, and then Dwayne Haskins in 2019. This from Will in Bethesda. Will writes, Kevin, the fan base is starved and willing to eat almost anything. You were less over the top than some of the others on Diggs, but still, when you said if he has another year like last year, it would be a great year, you're just loud wrong and crazy. You would crush Terry if he had a year like Diggs had last year.

Will you kind of stepped in it on this one, brother. You really did. Now, I think you are right that the fan base is eager. starved is fine for more help on offense for Jaden Daniels. But willing to eat anything, I don't think so. I think the Iyuk conversation was very split, and I'm talking about before Iyuk went off the reservation two months ago. I was in on Iyuk until two months ago in all those videos,

but I always felt like even before he became self-destructive again, this time so publicly, I felt like I was in kind of a 50-50 battle of wanting IUC versus those that did not. So they're not willing to eat anything. I don't think I was over the top on digs, and you pointed that out, but let me just mention, I'm pumped about the digs signing. I think it was smart. I think the deal was a good one for the team.

I think it's a good fit for him. I think there's a better chance that it works than doesn't work. I mean, I do realize that at 32, he could start to fall off the cliff, you know, age-wise at that position. But, yeah, if he's as good as he was last year in 2026, that would be absolutely a great thing. And that's where, you know, when you say, and you take issue, Will, with me saying that if Diggs has another year like last year, it would be a great thing. and I would crush Terry if he had a year like Diggs had last year. Yeah, you're just dead wrong. You need to sit this one out because Diggs last year had 85 catches for 1,013 yards.

Terry, in his seven-year NFL career, has caught 85 or more passes in a season one time, just once. year two, we caught 87 balls. Diggs caught 85 last year. Diggs had 1,013 yards last year. Terry's average season in the NFL is 994 yards. Diggs's catch rate last year. Warren Sharp pointed this out on the show yesterday. The percentage of catches to targets was 83% number one in the NFL.

Terry in his entire career has had a catch rate of over. 70% just one time. And it was barely over 70%. It was 70.1% with Jaden in 2024. Diggs's catch rate, again, the percentage of catches to targets, 83% last year, number one in the NFL. Warren Sharp had so much good info. He gave out this one as well. Diggs last year averaged 9.9 yards per target. Terry's was just 9.7 per target last year, but last year was an off year for everybody offensively. He's never been over 9.9 in his entire career. 9.4 was his average yards per target in the 2024 season, which really you could say was his best with Jane Daniels, the 13 touchdowns, etc. I'll take 85 catches, 1,013 yards, a catch rate of 83%.

from Stefan Diggs in 2026, and I'd be thrilled as well to get that from Terry. This conversation does make me think, though, about the distribution to the pass catchers on the roster this year, now that Diggs has been added to it. It's not the easiest thing to project, but it's not that hard. And I say it's not the easiest because there is a new system. There is a new play caller in David Blow. but if you look back at some of the stuff that Detroit's done, Minnesota's done, the top three in some order, assuming everybody's healthy and plays the same amount,

the top three in some order will be Terry, Diggs, and a Conquo, chig. You know, after that, I don't know that anybody knows for sure, but I would guess that it would be a running back, and I'll just say Rashad White. So I think the top four targeted pass catchers this year will be Terry Diggs, a Conquo, and either Rashad White or Kroski Merritt. I'll say Rashad White. And in terms of Terry Diggs and a Conquo, well, I'll get to that in a moment. You know, if you go back and you look at, you know, the Ben Johnson offenses in Detroit, Jimir Gibbs, who by the way, just signed the largest running back deal in NFL history.

My God, the running backs have been cashing in this week. Jamir Gibbs today, Bejohn Robinson, Jonathan Taylor. The running back contracts are at an all-time high, and running backs are back in vogue, for sure, especially if you're a great running back in. The league has some great running backs right now. But Jemir Gibbs has been top three or top four in targets in Detroit the last few years. So that's why I would say a running back is probably going to be fourth. Minnesota, you know, where Blow was, Aaron Jones was a top three, top four target there,

you know, even with Justin Jefferson. Jemir Gibbs in Detroit, even with Amman Ra. Rashad White, by the way, in Tampa, because he's got more experience than Bill Kroski. does, but he was third in targets in Tampa three years ago, and then the last two years, because of Bucky Irving's emergence, even though Bucky's been hurt a little bit, but he's been kind of in the top five in targeted pass catchers in Tampa's offense, a little bit different than the offense here. I would say that Terry Diggs and Chig, a con quote, will all come in with a similar number of targets. In the,

100 range for the season. I'll just say Terry being the number one in this offense will get the most. I'll say that a Conquo maybe gets the second most, digs the third most. But it could go in any order. It's going to be close. I think it'll be close. Terry's the number one in this offense, but I don't see him getting the kind of target numbers that Amman Ross St. Brown's gotten in Detroit, even though obviously David Blum, Blow is going to employ something similar at times to Ben Johnson. But I bet you David Blow doesn't see Terry as, you know, a guy you just feed over and over again. I know he has said to a certain extent that Terry should get fed more. I just have never felt that Terry's that kind of a receiver. Amon Rae St. Brown, 141 targets last year, 172 targets in 2024,

when the Lions were the one seed, but of course lost in the postseason to our team. The most Terry's ever been targeted in a season is 134 times. So with Diggs, with a Conquo, with the backs being more involved in the past game, I would say 100 plus or minus 10 targets for Diggs, Terry, and Chig, and then, I don't know, 60 to 70 targets for one of the two running backs, either White or Kroski Merritt. I'll guess White on that. They're about, on average, about 500 plus targets a year. That's average for an NFL team in the pass offense.

After that, who knows? I mean, your guess is as good as mine. But assuming health, those should be your four leading pass catchers on the team. And when I say, you know, top four leading pass catchers, I've talked targets. I think, you know, the three Diggs, Terry, and a Conquo, 70 to 75 catches each somewhere in that neighborhood. Maybe somebody's got 80, somebody's got 75, somebody's got 70, something like that. I could see it being spread around for sure. Receiving yards, you know, I'll take Terry on receiving yards.

Diggs is definitely more of a possession. receiver at this point in his career. But look, overall, Diggs being added to this roster isn't a theoretical. He's not a theoretical 75 catch guy next year. He's never had a full season this decade where he's caught fewer than 84 balls. He's done it. Burks hasn't. McCaffrey hasn't. Diami hasn't. Van Jefferson hasn't. You know, he hasn't caught 75 balls. 80 balls in a season, been targeted 100 times. Antonio Williams obviously has not. Jalen Lane obviously has not.

Chiga Conquo's best season was last year with 56 catches. Adding Diggs isn't a maybe. Everybody else before Diggs was added to this roster was maybe Berks will finally realize his first round potential. Maybe this is the year for McCaffrey. Maybe Antonio Williams will be really good as a rookie. Diggs isn't a maybe. He isn't.

They're going into Philadelphia week one with a pair of receivers that are a known entity, you know, not a theoretical, not something that you're hoping will emerge in a very tough opener on the road. I did this on radio this morning. looking at Terry and Diggs now as a wide receiver duo and trying to put it in its proper place compared to all of the other duos in the NFL. It's not crazy to talk about them as borderline top 10. Let me go through the list that I put together. So Jamar Chase and T. Higgins are clearly the number one wide receiver, you know, pair.

in the NFL. I would personally put Puka Nakuwa in Devante Adams at two. I'd put them ahead of C.D. Lamb and George Pickens because I think Nakuwa is the best out of those four receivers. You know, Lamb, Pickens, Nakuwa, and Adams, give me Nakuwa before anybody else. So those three, you know, Dallas, Rams, Bengals, three best duos in the NFL. Then you've got Jefferson and Addison in Minnesota. Look, they could be close to top three as well. You could move them ahead of pickings and lamb if Addison really comes on. And he definitely has the ability to.

He's just got to stay out of trouble off the field. Amon Ross St. Brown, Jameson, Williams is a better duo than what Washington has. So I just gave you the top five. You know, then you've got Jalen Waddle added to Cortland Sutton in Denver. you have AJ Brown and Romeo Dobbs in New England. You've got Jackson Smith Najigba and Rashid Shaheed in Seattle. That's three more. So you've got eight.

I've given you eight duos right now that I think we can all safely say should be ranked ahead of Terry and Diggs. But after that, you start looking around the league. I don't know. I mean, a lot of the potential duos that could be better are relying on young players, like Devante Smith and Lemon in Philadelphia. No more A.J. Brown there. Lemons are a rookie.

You know, the kid from Arizona State, Jordan Tyson with Chris Salave in New Orleans, but that's a rookie. I mean, maybe D.K. Metcalf and Michael Pittman, Jr., maybe in Pittsburgh. Maybe Pearson Downs in Indianapolis. Maybe Igbuka and Godwin in Tampa. DJ Moore's not in Chicago anymore.

He's in Buffalo. There's no combo with him. It's not Keon Coleman and DJ Moore. And in Chicago, I love Luther Burden, love him, but the other receiver is Roma Dunzee. He's barely been able to stay on the field. I mean, you can make the case that with Diggs off of last season, that he and Terry are somewhere hovering, you know,

in that 9 to 11, 12 range among the duos in the NFL, that's one of the reasons you do this as much as anything else, especially with the way they're starting at Philly, at Dallas, welcoming the Super Bowl champion Seahawks in week three. You've got to have a feeling that you're putting players on the field that you know have done it. You know, you can't go out there and say, we think Traylon Brooks can finally live up to that first round potential.

We actually think this is the breakout year for Luke McCaffrey. I mentioned, by the way, and many of you reached out to me, I was surprised that many of you thought it was a really good idea, and that is maybe trading Luke McCaffrey to San Francisco or one of the receivers to San Francisco because they're so desperate for receivers. There are going to be other receivers available. There is definitely a belief that New England is going to get rid of Cajon Booty as a possibility.

Maybe DeMario Douglas, with Brown and Dobbs added to that group, they may cut somebody loose. So it may be hard to trade a receiver to a receiver-needy team right now because there are some players that may be available in early September when the cuts are finally made. We'll see. All right. Up next, what? Kirk Cousins, Logan Paul. and Scott Turner said in their most recent visits to this podcast about Stefan Diggs. You'll hear it after these words from a few of our sponsors. Summer can really add up when it comes to how much money you spend, and it adds up pretty quickly. You know, a trip here, a dinner there, a couple of outdoor concerts later, and it should

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the Seattle, New England Super Bowl, and he talked about his relationship with Stefan Diggs, which started with him, Scott Turner, as an assistant coach at the University of Pittsburgh, where the DMV was part of his recruiting responsibility. So I asked him to tell the story about how he met Stefan Diggs, and when he first heard about Stefan Diggs, and it was a really cool story,

and it was the beginning of a friendship between Scott Turner and Steph Diggs that still exists today. Here was Scott Turner Super Bowl Week earlier this year talking about how he and Stefan Diggs became friends. When I was a receiver coach at University of Pittsburgh, I went into Good Counsel High School, and they had a bunch of really good players.

They were at WCAC. I think they've won the championship or finished second that year, whatever. But I sent down with Kevin McFadden, who's a security guard, and he's the head of security. And he's kind of a legend in the high school area. And he was showing me the highlight tape from the year before. And I had already met all these kids in there, and they had a kid, Lou Young, that was going to Georgia Tech,

who had been a senior. So I hadn't met him because obviously he was graduating. It was in January. And like every third play on his highlight tape was number seven, was making all these plays. And I, uh, and so I just assumed it was Lou Young.

And then like 15 plays into the tape, uh, this number one makes a play. And he goes, oh, that's Lou. You know, he's going to George Heck.

And I'm like, well, hold on a second. Who's number seven then? You know what I mean? And he's like, oh, well,

that's diggs. He was like, I was like, Mac, like you, you've introduced me to every single kid in this, in this school. Like,

I got to meet him. And he was like, well, coach Maloy, Bob Malloy, There's another legendary high school coach. Of course. He said, he said, Coach Malloy doesn't want gigs talking any colleges.

You know, he's got to get his grades up because he had some academic issues. And I go, look, man, I'm not leaving here until I meet him. So he brought him down and I met him. And he didn't have any scholarship offers because they had kept the college coaches away from him, but I offered him a scholarship. And then I left and Bob Malloy called me and was like, I'm trying to keep him humble. why don't you do that as a coach? I couldn't not do that.

Like, I mean, after what I just watched, like you, you, because he was playing all over the field, running back, receiver, you know, DB, blitzing. I mean, he did everything, Palmer Turner, kicker Turner. And, I mean, he looked exactly like he looks now, except he's a sophomore in high school. So, and he's got such a great personality, Stefan. So then I came back in spring recruiting, or I came back in January, I talked to him again. I've come back to spring recruit.

I probably broke some NCAA rules as far as how often I go back to that school. and he would be you know I come back in the afternoon because he would run track and I'd walk around track with him I remember talking to him and you know really getting to know him and I ended up leaving Pitt after that you know after that that next season so which was his junior year and then you know he ended up going to Maryland and you know he was after you know he had 80 offers by the time his junior football season started so I was just the first one that was after his sophomore year and then you know he ended up going to Maryland and he had kind of an up and down career he had a great freshman year and he was always productive but he when he was on the field but he had some injuries injuries

yeah yeah and then i at the by the time he was coming out i was the viking and i just i just remember like telling everybody anyone that would listen like you got we got to get this guy like we got to get this guy on the team and everyone was like well i don't know you know the coaches say he could be a little moody and you know i mean because he's such a competitive emotional player um but it's all geared towards wanting to win and and i was like i promise you guys so he ends up dropping and we got two picks in the fifth round. I get called in the draft room. I'm the quarterback coach, and I'm like, well, why are they calling me in here?

And Zimmer, who can be a little gruff, you know, he was like, hey, he's like, Scott, if we draft this guy, you're going to make sure that you're going to make sure that he does the right things. And, you know, he doesn't screw this up. I was like, coach, just get him on our team. You know what I mean? Like, just get him here. And he came in and he hit the ground running.

And obviously the rest of history, the Minnesota Miracle and all the different things he was able to do there. and then obviously in his career. And, you know, when he won the, going to the, you know, I've seen him over the course of the years, and he's always just so grateful to me. And he always says, you know, how much, you know, thanks for always believing in me.

And, you know, and it means a lot. And, you know, I know, he's had his issues, but he's the guy that I always root for. And I'm just really excited for him to go to the Super Bowl, especially just with what he's dealt with on the field with, you know, going to different teams, hurting his knee, kind of people thinking that he was done. And to have the year he's had this year.

and is, you know, I'm happy for him, you know, and I hope that he can finish it off. You know, this area, as you know, has always been an absolute hotbed for high school basketball, but it's always been very good for high school football as well. And there are people around here that will say that Stefan Diggs is either the greatest player to ever come out of the DMV or certainly on a short list of the greatest players to ever come out of this area. Yeah, he was, no, he was a phenomenal player. And that was a sophomore year. And then, you know, his junior year, like, I remember my wife, uh, we were, I was,

my wife at the time, like, they always played those, like, games on ESPN 2, like, a week before, like, college football. Yeah, right. Yeah. And they were playing St. X in Cincinnati and dig, and I remember, like, making her watch. And she's like, we have to watch a high school football game. We were dating at the time. I'm like, I got to watch this kid.

And he was, like, unbelievable. I mean, he, he scored on defense. He had a sack, like, he got a sack, like, big comp return. and they beat them, good counsel beat them, you know, that big St. X, which is where, you know, Lou Kigley went. I'm not at that time, but, you know, that's a high school he went to. And he, I mean, he was, you know, unreal there.

And, yeah, he could just, he could do it all. Like I said, he really looked. He was a little leaner, but he looked about the same as he does now. And, yeah, he was a phenomenal, phenomenal high school football. Well, the other thing at Maryland, too, is he was a lethal returner. I mean, just, you know, unbelievable. great story from Scott Turner, recruiting the DMV, recruiting a good counsel during the Good Counsel heydays with Bob Malloy. Bob Malloy, by the way, was on my radio show this morning.

Legendary high school football coach, winningest football coach ever from this area. He won eight state titles at Whitman, at Springbrook and at Sherwood in Montgomery County before going to Good Counsel, where he was an absolute power, in the WCAC, but nationally at Good Counsel. He's got NFL players all over the place, players that have played in the NFL that are long gone. I mean, just an absolute legendary coach. He had some really good stories about Steph Diggs at Good Counsel and some thoughts about digs because he's been watching his career and he's a big Skins fan as well.

But I wanted to say one quick thing about something that Scott Turner said. When I was re-listening to that Seth, from, you know, Super Bowl week in February. When Scott Turner said that he's watching film and he thinks he's watching the guy that he wants to watch, but actually he's watching number seven. Oh, that's Diggs. It occurred to me that Stefan Diggs wore number seven in high school. He wore number one at Maryland.

In the pros, he wore 14 in Minnesota, 14 in Bonds. He wore number one, his college number in Houston, and then he wore number eight last year. I don't know what number he's going to be. Maybe you guys know at this point. Maybe it's out after recording the podcast today. But I just want to point out that number one right now is being worn by Rashad White. number 14 is being worn by the rookie Antonio Williams. Number eight is being worn by Marcus Mariotta.

So 14, 1, and 8, the three numbers he's worn at the pro level are all taken. What if he wants to wear number seven, his high school number? Not available. I hope that ownership knows that. I'm sure they do. Joe Thaisman's jersey is not available. The debacle from 2019 with Dwayne Haskins all due respect and rest in peace, Dwayne. But that was an absolute debacle, which Snyder allowed to happen. He should have never been able to wear Joe's number.

It was a protected jersey. It wasn't retired, but it was protected. And even though Joe's jersey may never get retired, we don't know that it will, it is protected. It should be protected. And Steph Diggs being a local and being a, you know, fan of the team, I hope that he understands he can't wear number seven. It's going to have to find another number. Look, Antonio Williams is a rookie. I mean, Stefan Diggs is on the team.

If he wants 14, he should get 14. All right. So a couple of months, actually about two months, I think, after Scott Turner talked about Stefan Diggs on the podcast, I had Kirk Cousins on the show. Now, this wasn't a full-fledged segment about Stefan Diggs, but I was asking Kirk towards the end of our long conversation, which I really enjoyed, of course I did,

about different players that he had played with over the years. And I posed the question, Justin Jefferson or Stefan Diggs in terms of who was better for him? And here's how he answered that question. Jefferson or Diggs? You know, people ask, like, who's the best guy you've ever thrown to? And I say, well, that's like picking your favorite kid. Like, I can't do that to the guys I played with. They were all good.

They were all special. I'm grateful for all of them. I used to say that. And then I played with Justin Jefferson. And I found myself saying after that, yeah, he's, he's, he, he's, he's, he's, he's, he, he's, he, He's probably the best I've been around. I could say that and quote unquote pick my favorite kid. He's really special.

My challenge to him was always, you know, can you do it again? Can you do it again? Because I didn't want him to get complacent or get him to think that he had to do something different or better. It was, no, you just got to do it again. And you'd be surprised how hard that is to do. You know, Jerry Rice did it for 20 plus years, but not many guys can. So I kept challenging him to make sure he could do it again and again and again.

But he probably stands out the most. But what Diggs had was just incredibly sure. strong hands, incredibly sound movement skills, great competitor. And he was another guy like Pierre or like Adam where he could do everything. You could give him reverses. You could give him down the field stuff like Deshaun. You could give him short, quick game. You could have him run through traffic. You could have him run intermediate routes, have to break down, have to stay on the move. I mean, he could do it all. So that was Kirk on Diggs. And then Logan Paulson from earlier this week before Diggs was signed.

I asked him about what he thought about Diggs and whether or not he'd be in favor of the team signing Stefan Diggs. Here's what Logan said. So, Stefan Diggs, yes or no? Yeah, I mean, I like Stefan Diggs a lot. I think you go back and watch what he did with New England last year. He's a good football player. I know there's some legal stuff.

I'm not super familiar with all that stuff that's going on, which is the only thing that gives me pause. but I think of the people available, like he's the name that is at the top of my list, you know, barring that all that legal stuff is okay. But I think he still can do it at a high level. And again,

he's not, you know, the true perimeter player that he once was, but he knows that a win versus man coverage. And I think he did a great job mentoring, Drake May, from what I understand. I coach a couple people

or consult with a couple people that play there, and they had nothing but fantastic things to say about him. So, you know, the guy in the locker room sounds like, a great guy, the guy on the field in terms of the tape. I think it was performing at a high level. So, yeah, of the guys available, he's the guy I would sign. Logan Paulson, everybody from yesterday.

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cash bonus when you use promo code Kevin D.C. So Warren Sharp, he's been one of my favorites for several years now. I think part of it is that I think I view the league in similar ways to the way he does. Not that he knows my views, but I have followed him. And I think one of the reasons I buy into a lot of what he is selling is I think about the league in the same way. You know, he's had his net rest, you know, analysis over the years, his schedule strength analysis. But there's so much more that Warren Sharp provides. And we spent some time on yesterday's show talking about just the unpredictable nature of the NFL. He was great on Diggs, too. I would definitely encourage those of you who have not listened to it to go back and listen to yesterday's show.

again the 49 minute 33 second mark for the beginning of the conversation. But we spent a lot of time and I carved out about 12, 13, 14 minutes, something like that, where I asked him to forecast Washington season to the best of his ability and then come up with a team that he thinks will surprise in the NFL. Last year, New England and Seattle were surprises. They entered the NFL season with win totals of seven and a half, and they ended up facing off in the Super Bowl. So we finished up the conversation yesterday with me asking him, again,

to give me his best guess on Washington in 2026, and then to give me a team that he's got a strong hunch about that will sort of outperform what most of the experts say. Here's what he said. I think if I were betting on the commanders, I would be betting over seven to half wins if I was forced. I just think that they had so many injuries and so many things went sideways. I know they're only favored in five games this year. But I think with the addition of Steph Diggs, with the health that we're going to get,

I think this team could be a very interesting team. The problem is they play a very difficult schedule, especially to start the year. So the schedule makers did them no favor. the way they finished and the dice that the odds as they, as the lot falls for them this year is who they're going to have to play is going to be a challenge. But I think this can be a team that gets back on track faster than a lot of people think around the NFL. This really depends on how Jaden Daniels picks up the offense with David Blow, to your point,

has never called plays. We don't know how he's going to do from a game planning perspective, from an adjustment perspective, but just like literally how is Jane Daniels operating under center? How is he on some of these plays where he's turning back to the defense at times? Like, what are we going to get there? Those are a lot of question marks. In terms of a team that I think can surprise, this is, it's not going to be a direct answer to a team that nobody thinks, nobody believes in.

But I think that the team that wins the AFC South and has a real shot at going deep in the AFC is the Houston Texans, and it's going to because C.J. Stroud looks a lot better, and so that would be the take that probably everybody thinks of C.J. Stroud as being terrible. He's kind of gone the opposite direction, hasn't performed well. I don't think that people understand the context of what that Houston Texan team was dealing with their offense last year. They had a first year office coordinator, to your point, who had never called plays before, calling their offense and he comes from the Rams, and the Rams utilized a man-blocking run scheme. The Texans had always been a zone-blocking run team.

He tried to implement a man-blocking approach last season where they were the number two, they finished the year's number two highest rate of man-blocking in the league behind only the Rams. This offensive line wasn't equipped to do it. It was a bad offensive line to begin with from a personnel. perspective. Then you look at the running back situation, which every quarterback needs something out of the running game. One, they were never expecting Woody Marks a fourth round rookie running back to be the primary starter for the team. But Mixon isn't there. Woody Marks comes in. Woody Marks cannot pass block, cannot catch the ball out of the backfield very well. And so they had

this play Nick Chubb a considerable number of snaps because he could do both of those things. But It likewise made the offense too predictable when Nick Chub was in there versus not in there as to what types of plays that they were going to call. They had one of the least efficient offenses down inside of the red zone, which is part of the reason that if you were betting Kimee Fairbairn over one and a half field goals, you were printing money every single week. Because this team constantly got into the 10-yard line, the 5-yard line, and just settled for field goals because they had no... He led the league and made field goals, yeah. He was incredible. on those types of bets. This team similarly had a lot of injuries themselves at the wide receiver position.

Last year, we saw them rank 29th, fourth, worst wide receiver health, second worst, tight end health, second worst coming back health. And then they lost the tight end in the playoff game against the Patriots. Exactly. They lost him. And so this team was down to very little this year in the off season. They overhauled the offensive line. They brought in. They did that last year.

But they did it this year with guys that fit the man blocking scheme a lot better. They went after and got David Montgomery, who was the number one best running back using man blocking concept runs in Detroit over the last two years. So I think that's an upgrade that some people aren't thinking of. And I think CJ Stroud with Tankdale back, with a healthy eco-colon, is going to look better. This team has an easier schedule. I think that everybody's talking about the Dexville Jaguars and they won 13 games. They won the AFC South. I think the Houston, Texas are the team to beat in the AFC South.

I think Houston Texans, they keep all the defense intact. As long as they don't have an injury bug strike their defense, this is a team that can carry them into the postseason. The offense, though, in my opinion, we're going to see some surprises. Seagestroud is going to look better. I could be totally wrong on that. I love this. I love this. I think it's totally different than most. people are thinking everybody's written C.J. Stroud off of the last year and what he's done

and off of what he did in the postseason, which was really bad. And then there's that video that goes viral of him walking into the day one of training camp, looking like his mom just dropped him off for his first day of seventh grade or something. Everybody is down on the vibes of Houston and C.J. Stroud, I just think there's some opportunity here down in Houston. I actually thought last year at the end of the year they were one of the best defensive teams in the regular season I had watched in a long time. I don't know if the

advanced numbers recognize that. And I've said this probably no less than two dozen times since the season ended. If Nick Cayley was the offensive coordinator you're talking about, if he had decided to just hand the ball off and punt another seven or

eight times in Foxborough, they would have won that game. They would have won that game with their defense. And they didn't do it. They let C.J. Stroud continue to drop back. And there were five turnovers, and that was the difference. Yeah, I could easily see that team being, and you're right. By the way, Jacksonville was playing awfully well at the end of last year. I thought the Jacksonville Buffalo game was the best start to finish playoff game of the postseason. And, I mean, Josh Allen's performance in that game was unbelievable. You're the best. Unfortunately,

He followed it up in Denver. In Denver with the exact opposite type of performance, but no doubt about it. That was a really fun game to watch with coaches who were being aggressive and, you know, there's a lot of fun. Always love doing this with you. Really appreciate it. I'll reach out to you at some point when we approach the midpoint of the season. And then we'll still not know enough, but we'll know a lot more.

Thank you, Warren. Absolutely. Always happy to join you. Warren Sharp from yesterday. I really like the Texans, too. You guys know that I love them at the end of last year. They are loaded. If they stay healthy, this has a chance to be not only the best defense in the NFL,

but the best defense we've seen in a while in the NFL. Now, the Rams on paper defensively look pretty stout as well. But the Texans, man, are just absolutely loaded across the board at every level defensively. And I'm with him on C.J. Stroud. I don't think Stroud's that bad. And he really pointed out some of the reasons why they struggled offensively with kind of a scheme that didn't necessarily fit some of the personnel.

All right, that'll do it for today, back tomorrow.