The Kevin Sheehan Show - The Haskins Discount

Episode Date: November 29, 2019

Kevin opens with a Dwayne Haskins holiday deal. He and Aaron talk about all the Thanksgiving games in both the NFL and college. He then previews Redskins-Panthers and has his Smell Test. <p> &...lt;/p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p> Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 You want it. You need it. It's what everyone's talking about. The Kevin Sheehan Show. Now here's Kevin. All right. It's just Aaron and I today. It's going to be a short podcast. I had to do an extra hour of radio this morning, which I wasn't anticipating, thrilled to do it. But we're going to do a shorter version today because a couple of the guests that I had booked had to do it earlier and we couldn't do it until a little bit later. But it's all right. It's Friday, holiday weekend. If you haven't listened to the Kooley Show on Wednesday, listen to that. A lot of good film breakdown on Dwayne Haskins. You got all weekend to listen to that one. Going to give you a smell test, even though you probably don't want it today. But I'm going to start this show by encouraging all of you to take advantage of the Black
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Starting point is 00:01:58 You know what else you get from Black Friday? specials today. What? Really cheap Redskins tickets. They're doing a package for the final two games, the Eagles and Giants. What's the package? You can get a ticket for both for $100 in the upper level or $150 in the lower level for both games. There's no chance anybody's going to spend $150 for two games when they can get them for $4 a piece.
Starting point is 00:02:21 That's right. For each game. Oh, my God, that's insulting. They're trying to package up two games for $100 to $150. bucks when if you buy them individually, you won't have to pay more than five bucks to get in the stadium. And by game time, you could probably just walk right through the turnstiles and say, hey, I'm with my father. He just walked through. And they'll just let you go in. Yep. A couple of things before we get to the smell test for the week and a couple of things on Redskins
Starting point is 00:02:50 Panthers, Baltimore, San Francisco, etc. Yesterday, Dallas loses to Buffalo in that game. 26 to 15. There are a couple of things about the game. First of all, the fact that the Cowboys were getting their ass kicked, I didn't really care personally other than I had Dallas laying six and a half. But with respect to sort of anti-cowboy feelings, I didn't really care one way or the other. I was just upset that they were getting their ass kick
Starting point is 00:03:18 because I had them in the smell test laying six and a half. Another banner day for the smell test yesterday. Cowboys minus six and a half, the Falcons plus seven. Falcons should have covered. They really should have. They moved the ball up and down the field all night long. The kicker misses a point after touchdown. They misses a field goal.
Starting point is 00:03:35 They had a couple of really good picks. New Orleans is pretty good defensively. They get some playmakers defensively. And then they recovered three onside kicks at the end of that game. You know, it's like a 4% probability. They recovered one of them that they got penalized for. So I guess you don't count that one. Then they recovered back-to-back on-side kicks,
Starting point is 00:03:54 which is amazing in this day and age. And they couldn't do anything with the last one down eight. The cowboy game, though, was interesting from this perspective. Number one, Jason Garrett apparently is not going to get fired. Brad Sham was on with me last week on radio and said it's not going to happen until after the season. Jerry's not going to fire him in season. And Jerry pretty much said he's not going to fire him. They're six and six.
Starting point is 00:04:21 An NFC East division winning team has never been less than nine and seven. And only twice has the NFC. East winner been nine and seven. 2011, the Giants went nine and seven and eventually won the Super Bowl. And the Redskins in 2015 finished nine and seven and won the division as well. Every other NFC East winners had at least 10 wins. And this year, right now, it looks like eight and eight is likely going to win the division. I'm not sure if that's true.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Have you seen the Eagles schedule down the stretch? I've been talking about it, but they're not very good right now. They're not very good, but they play the dolphins, the giants, the Redskins, the Cowboys at home and then the Giants again. So you think definitively they're going to win three of those five games? I'd be very surprised if they didn't. Yeah. And by the way, if you're looking at the futures market, hammer the Eagles now.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Sometimes in some places you can get that plus money to win the division. Yeah. I don't know if I think, I think something's wrong in Philadelphia right now. I think something is really wrong. And it wouldn't shock me if they lose three of these games, including one to the Giants and maybe one to the Dolphins and maybe. maybe one to the Redskins. Seriously, they're a mess right now.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I guess I'm with you. They should win. They're five and six. No, wait a minute. To win nine, they've got to win four or five. And I still think they'll win four or five with that schedule. Yeah, I don't think so. I think they'll win three of the five.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I think they're going to lose two games. They're going to lose to the Cowboys, and they're going to lose one of those other games. And then the Cowboys are going to lose another two. The Cowboys could easily lose to the Bears. Next Thursday, I think it is. They could lose to the Rams. More likely than not, nine, it's probably a slight favorite that nine wins wins the division.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Anyway, we get sidetracked on that. I wanted to just say about the Cowboy game, man, you know, you don't go for fourth and goal at the six in the third quarter down 23-7. You just don't, okay, kick the damn field goal. You're not making fourth and goal from the six. It's a one-and-five chance, maybe a one-and-five chance. maybe a one and four chance. Kick the field goal. On fourth and five, with six minutes to go in the game, down 26 to 7.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Do the math, Jason. You're going to need a field goal, two touchdowns, two two-point conversions. Kick the field goal. You know who's really, really underrated as one of the young quarterbacks in the league? Josh Allen. Yeah. He had the play of the day yesterday. Fourth and one right before the two-minute warning in a 7-7 game.
Starting point is 00:06:57 they decide to go for it. It's at the cowboy, I think it was at the cowboy 30-yard line, something like that. It was fourth and one at the cowboy 30. Here it is right here, exactly the cowboy 30. And the snap is botched and fumbled, and it's in the pile, and it looks like the Cowboys have stopped the bills in a 7-7 game. They're going to get the ball back before the two-minute warning from their own 30-yard line. And then somehow, some way.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Big Josh Allen, he's a big long dude. He goes into the pile, rips the ball out of the pool, pile and leaps forward and gets the first down. What a great play that was by him. A phenomenal play, a competitive badass play. And he gets up and he gives the first down sign. And I was like, wow, I was not happy in the moment. I had Dallas laying six and a half.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Josh Allen can play. Man, Cooley, I'm telling you, Cooley should be the Redskins GM. He said about Josh Allen, if you look at the numbers that Josh Allen produced, at Wyoming, and you think he isn't very good. His completion percentage was low. He's like, you have not watched the tape. He goes, this guy's got nothing around him, and this guy's going to be a good NFL starter. And he's right. Think about Josh Allen, he's mobile as hell. He can really scramble and run and create and throw on the run. He's a good off-schedule quarterback, and Buffalo, man, is nine and three. Nine and three. What a sense?
Starting point is 00:08:27 season they've put together here. They have the Ravens next a week from Sunday in Buffalo. They also have the Patriots. I think they could win the division at 13 and 3 that they would potentially win that division based on common games. I think I saw somebody put that out there. I don't think they're going to win the division because I don't think they're going to go 13 and three or 12 and 4 even. They'll probably lose to the Ravens. They'll probably lose at New England. but they are the first wild card. That's pretty much a lock now in the AFC. Oh, 100% a lock.
Starting point is 00:09:01 That the bills are going to be the number one wild card. So they'll be in that four, they'll be in that 5-4 game in that first wild card weekend, more likely than not. Also yesterday, Blow, the quarterback, the third string quarterback that got the start for the Lions in the early game. We remember him from Purdue. I don't remember him being any good. I don't remember. I mean, I remember his name, but I don't remember anything about it. I don't either.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I don't really remember much about his game. I remember he was the quarterback at Purdue. He throws on his first pass as a professional, is a third string undrafted free agent, you know, a 75-yard touchdown pass, and proceeds to have a really impactful game. He played really well, and all of you, oh my God, how is it that Dwayne Haskins can't have a game like that?
Starting point is 00:09:49 And this dude's undrafted. Look, Dwayne Haskins got drafted by the Redskins. I know the lions aren't that much better. They have better receivers. You know, Galdade Jones, and I'm still blown away that Scarborough did not get an opportunity until two weeks ago to play in the NFL. I don't understand that. He's a good back. I don't know anything about David Blow other than what I watched yesterday.
Starting point is 00:10:11 He looked like a good, you know, in the pocket, extend the play kind of guy. He was impressive. I'll give you that. Made a couple of throws that actually should have been caught. and Detroit had the lead for most of the game. And then Mitch Trubisky, who I'm texting back and forth with a friend of mine during that game, he's the worst. And then he puts together multiple drives in the second half,
Starting point is 00:10:35 including the final drive, which was a 90-plus-yard drive in nine or ten plays to give him the lead in the fourth quarter, where he completed some big balls. And I'm a big Anthony Miller guy coming out of Memphis. he was one of the guys that I would have loved the Redskins to have drafted. He's starting now to really get it here in his second year. He had nine catches, 140 yards, and a big one on a third down in that final drive. Two of them on third downs in that final drive that gave Chicago the lead. And then last night in the Atlanta game, three on-side kicks, two of them, legitimate,
Starting point is 00:11:10 recovered in the game, which is a miracle in this day and age. New Orleans just clinched their third straight NFC South Division title. I don't know what to make of the Saints. It's Drew Breeze, it's Alvin Kamara, it's Michael Thomas, it's Sean Peyton. You know, they're really good offensively. They're really tough to stop defensively. At times, they've looked lights out. And at other times, they've looked a little bit vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:11:40 They got moved on last night. They also came up with some big turnovers. because Matt Ryan threw two fourth quarter interceptions in that game. But, you know, they move the ball. I mean, Atlanta moved the ball against him. Carolina moved the ball against him. You know, they used Taysam Hill last night. He blocked a punt and then scored on a touchdown catch, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:58 one of those quick, you know, shovel passes, touch passes behind the line of scrimmage. The Saints can get to the Super Bowl. Definitely can get to the Super Bowl. Next week's game against the 49ers in the Superdome is probably going to determine home field advantage. I think right now in the NFC. The Saints are favored to win the NFC. Over the Niners.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Yes, I believe that's the case, depending on the book. But let me double check that one. I thought I saw the other day that the 49ers were still. At Fandul, New Orleans plus 210, 49ers plus 240. Where is it on my site? Ravens Patriots. Yeah, Saints a slight favorite over the 49ers. Yep.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah, I mean, the NFC, the AFC really does look like. It's Baltimore, New England. You know, I mean, we'll see what happens with the Chiefs and whether or not they can catch fire and look a little bit better. You know, certainly Pittsburgh's not beaten either one of those two teams as a wild card, Indy, Tennessee, Oakland. I don't see that Buffalo. I don't know, maybe we need to start taking Buffalo more seriously.
Starting point is 00:13:10 There's not at that level, though. I don't think so. although you go back to that New England game that they played. I mean, they had Matt Barkley in the game, and New England needed a defensive touchdown, a special teams played just to win 16 to 10. I think they can pull one-ups that. I just don't think they can run through it.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Well, the problem is Buffalo would have to win those games on the road. The NFC, you know, San Francisco, New Orleans, Seattle, are probably the three favorites, you know, in that order, New Orleans, San Francisco, Seattle. You know, I'm still not a believer in Minnesota, even though I'm rooting for Kirk Cousins to do well here, I don't believe that I just don't see them being good enough defensively, to be honest with you, especially their past defense,
Starting point is 00:13:51 to hold up and win two road games potentially to get there. Right now, I would guess that New Orleans and San Francisco are going to be the one and two seeds in the NFC, and that Minnesota and or Green Bay is the NFC North champion will host a game wildcard weekend and need to win two in a row on the road to get there. I don't see them doing that. And certainly nobody out of the NFC East at this point, even though the Cowboys are so talented and they should be better than they are.
Starting point is 00:14:18 They have Jason Garrett. They have Jason Garrett, exactly. One other thing from yesterday real quickly, because you texted this to me. I didn't see your text until early this morning, but I happened to have been watching the end of this game. I didn't have any action on it, although I did like Ole Miss and I didn't play it. They would have covered. I think they were getting two and a half. Two and a half. Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:36 The Egg Bowl, the Mississippi State Mississippi game last night, ended. With Ole Miss, first of all, driving like 90-something yards and scoring a touchdown down 21 to 14 to make it 21-20 with four seconds to go. Fourth and 24, you're going to mention. I saw that play, yeah. Elijah Moore for Ole Miss, number eight, caught the touchdown pass and then proceeded to do the OBJ thing where he does the dog crawl, lifts his leg, and simulates, you know, urinating. It's a funny thing. And it'd be really funny if that touchdown was the last play of the game and gave him the lead. You know, game over, you take the 15-yard penalty.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Or if you were up 21. Or if you're up, you know, 42. However, after doing that, then there's a shot of him on the sideline carrying some sort of championship belt. Did you see that part of it? I didn't see that now. Yeah, he's over on the sideline celebrating. This is before the PAT. It's 2120 now, four seconds to go.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Elijah Moore has caught the day. touchdown pass that potentially could lead to a game-tying P-A-T. And he's already cost his team 15 yards with a simulated urinating, the dog crawl, lift the leg like you're next to a telephone pole, and pee all over the end zone. All right? Gets flagged for that, and then he's carrying some championship belt parading that around on the sideline. Here it comes from all of you under the age of, I don't know, what it would be, 40.
Starting point is 00:16:06 okay boomer so the dude goes in and he misses the extra point wide right and they lose the game 21 to 20 and the extra point was just barely missed wide right had it been a 20 yard extra point it would have gone through yes and you would have had an overtime game at 21 21 instead they lose 21 20 and you can say okay boomer all you want
Starting point is 00:16:30 I mean you're right I mean you're definitely right winning the game is not nearly as important as the number of likes that Elijah Moore, I'm sure got on his Instagram account last night. But the coach afterwards said, you know, Elijah's not that kind of a kid, so I'm just really disappointed because he's not that kind of a kid. The coach had to be just incensed, just so effing p-oed that he probably just wanted to take that guy in a corner
Starting point is 00:17:03 and beat the living crap out of him. How can you be so dumb and so selfish as to do that in a 21 to 20 game? How can you be so lacking in awareness of what the game situation is? He's not the first to do something that dumb and that selfish, and he's not going to be the last. But the championship belt on top of that on the sideline was really almost worse than the instantaneous emotional reaction of mocking a dog peeing. Incredible. They deserved it in that spot.
Starting point is 00:17:40 One of my favorite parts, one of the Brocka, as they're showing the replays and getting ready for it, it's either the color guy where I think it might even the sideline guy comes on, and he says, he knows you can't pee on the field. What of my favorite things ever? There's a big sign that said no dog walking in the end zone. Anyway, that was a meaningless game, although I think Mississippi State became bowl eligible with that win. over Ole Miss. All right.
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Starting point is 00:19:08 being smart. The Panthers are second in the league in sacks behind just the 49ers. They've got 41 sacks on the year, and they cause turnovers. They are top five in takeaways on the year. I believe this is the best defensive team that Dwayne Haskins has started against. I know that Greg Williams provided a ton of challenges. This is the best defense. It's an inconsistent defense, but it's the most talented and it's the one that really gets after the quarterback. If Dwayne Haskins is put into obvious passing situations in this game, it could get ugly. And, you know, most of you have heard me and have sensed that I am more optimistic about Haskins than I used to be. I am. I'm intrigued by some of the things he does very well better than I even thought.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Sunday could be a step-back moment for him after those two drives that finish off the Detroit game. Some of you will say the Detroit game was a step-back game in general because of his numbers. see it that way, quite the way many of you saw it. This could be one of those ugly games if they don't really figure out a way to protect. I liked some of the things that Kevin O'Connell did, and I thought he had a better feel for the game against the Lions. There were a couple of runs in that game, you know, first down, four, five, six-yard runs, and then he went play action, and that's how you do it. You know, you rip off a five-yard first-down run. The defense thinks you're coming back, especially Bill Callahan's team, is coming back with another run.
Starting point is 00:20:38 and you go play action there. That's how you protect Wayne Haskins with play calling. You run play action, you let him throw it when the other team is least expecting him to throw it. He's got to do a really good job of extending and of getting the ball out quickly and the offensive line has to protect. If not, there could be four or five, six sacks in this game and maybe one or two that ends up with a bad throw that gets picked. And if that happens, it's going to be ugly, really, really ugly.
Starting point is 00:21:05 The Redskins beat the Panthers. if their kicker Joey Sly, who's missed seven field goals and four PATs, and Aaron has not been cut yet, they brought in another kicker after he missed two extra points last week and a 25-yard field goal in a game against the Saints on the road. They had a legitimate chance to win that game. They didn't cut him. They brought in a kicker and put him on the practice squad as of now. but Joey Sly is still on the roster, and he has to be thinking about every one of these kicks. He's got to be rattled.
Starting point is 00:21:45 But for whatever reason, Ron Rivera at this point is sticking with him. If he kicks and misses a couple on drives that stall, Redskins will have a chance. Lastly, the Redskins ultimately have to win the turnover battle to beat a good football team by two or more. This is a given now for the Redskins against a good football team. They haven't beaten a good football team in forever. It's been Dallas last year. It's probably the last decent football team they beat. That was before Dallas got on a run last year.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Okay, the Redskins have beaten the Dolphins and the Lions. You saw what the Lions were. Mitch Trubisky lit up the Lions yesterday. You've got to be plus two or better on Sunday to beat the Panthers. You have no chance. And they do turn it over. They got 20 giveaways as much as they have 20 takeaways. Their turnover margin is the exact same as the Redskins, zero.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I mentioned this, I think, on Monday. To be a 2-9 football team with a zero turnover margin is very surprising. You usually see a 2-9 football team minus 7, minus 8, minus 11. It tells you just how bad the Redskins are, that they have not been on the wrong side of the turnover margin category, yet they've only won two football games. Let's get to the smell test. Kevin looks where the John Q public is putting their cash and does the opposite.
Starting point is 00:23:11 It's time for the smell test. It stinks. I know. It's been terrible. I was doing the smell test today on live radio. And on a football Friday with all the games on Friday, Aaron, I started getting all the text messages that I typically get on Saturday and Sunday morning from people I know. And I had to actually cancel a couple of my plays live on air. Gave out Texas.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And I said, nope, I just got some information. and we canceled Texas. Ball State's laying three. Game starts at noon today, so if you hear this, it may be too late. They're four and seven playing a seven and four team, Miami of Ohio. It doesn't make any sense why they would be a three-point favorite.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Take Ball State laying the three points. Northwestern's only getting eight and a half against Levy Smith and Illinois tomorrow. Illinois headed to a bowl game. Real surprising season for Illinois and Levy Smith. Good for him. He is well-liked in the coaching profession. And Illinois, at various times, you know, over my lifetime,
Starting point is 00:24:11 has had really good football teams. More often than not, no. But, you know, they've got a fan base there in Champaign-Urbana. If they put this thing together and they start winning, they got a shot. They're six and five. They've already qualified for a bowl. Northwestern is getting only eight and a half. The public loves Illinois.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I'll take Northwestern plus the eight-and-a-half. Kansas is getting 14 at home against Baylor. public's all over Baylor. Give me Kansas plus the 14. And in the Iron Bowl, I like Auburn getting three and a half. The public doesn't think it's enough. They still think Bama, even without two, is better than Auburn, and laying three and a half seems too short. I'll take Auburn plus the three and a half. On Sunday, I like Jacksonville plus one and a half against Tampa. Tampa coming off that win, the public loves them. I like Cincinnati. These are bad teams. I'm giving you plus three against the Jets.
Starting point is 00:25:05 The Jets have won three in a row. Widen that line higher. I like the Giants plus six and a half, buy it to seven at home against the Packers. And I like the Texans on Sunday night plus three and a half against the Patriots. Not a lot of discussion around the smell test today. Okay, not a lot of discussion.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Because you don't want to hear it. You just want the picks, and then you'll decide to do with them what you decide to do. All right. All right. By the way, we've got an app now. You can listen to us on the app.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Just go to the App Store on your iPhone or go to the Google store on your Android. And you can listen to us via our new app. Don't have to, but it's another way to listen to the Kevin Sheehan show. I told you we're going to do a short show today, and we are. We got some things to do here on this holiday, Friday. You got the Cooley show you can listen to. I like the Redskins to lose, you know, big. And I like the Ravens to win in the game of the weekend.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And I also like Ohio State to win, I'm really looking forward to that game. But I think the Ravens beat the 49ers. Weather is going to be horrible in Baltimore on Sunday. Heavy rain, chilly temperatures. 49ers came east to play the Redskins in a rainstorm. That field in Baltimore is field turf. It's going to be a million times better than the complete and utter S show of a field
Starting point is 00:26:24 that the Redskins have. You know, they pay attention to the details. You know, Bishotti's not going to have what Snyder had. the 49ers came east with heavy rain. But it's going to be a weather game. And Garoppolo did not throw the ball well in the rain against the Redskins. I like the Ravens to win that game. I like the Panthers 30 to 17. Do you know the Redskins are the lowest scoring team in the league, averaging 13.1 points per game. They haven't scored more than 17 since week two. I got him scoring 17, but losing 30 to 17. All right. Sorry for the short show, but you got the Cooley show
Starting point is 00:27:02 from Wednesday to listen to, and we're back on Monday with a full football weekend recap. Go Terps. They're playing in this holiday tournament. Love the way they played against Temple yesterday. A tough, hard-nosed team, and Anthony Cowan, who a lot of Maryland fans have had a problem with, and I've always stuck with Anthony. I like Anthony a lot. It was brilliant yesterday. Brilliant against Temple. All right, enjoy the holiday weekend. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. Be safe out there on Friday. And remember, Dwayne Haskins, Kingdom of Pride. Is that what it is? Kingdom of the Pride? Sounds right. Something like that. They got 40% off everything today. Enjoy the day.

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