The Kevin Sheehan Show - Trigger Finger & Cooley Film

Episode Date: September 23, 2020

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A Cooley and Kevin Wednesday here on the podcast, Cooley from Wyoming, me here in our studios in Bethesda. Cooley's going to have his defensive film breakdown today, and we will get to that here shortly. Cooley started right before the podcast began with, man, 80 plays on defense. That's a lot of plays. Well, that's what you get with a Cliff Kingsbury team. Kooley, they're going to try to run as many plays as possible. It's Texas Tech, it's Oregon, you know, and they ran, was it 80 snaps? That means three penalties were, there were three penalties that declined because the snap count shows 77 for the Cardinals. Yeah, the snap count

77. And so I think when you have a false start, it doesn't count as a play on the snap count. So it would be re-Ari-Azona false starts. But on the actual film copy, it shows the play. Got it. We'll get to the defensive film. breakdown. And Coley's on Zoom today. We, we worked it out and we think this is better. The phone yesterday, not great. But hopefully everybody, look, based on the feedback, Coley, and we got a ton of it on the film breakdown. I actually, I think it was one of the best Cooley film breakdowns I've ever listened to. And I didn't tell you that in the moment, but as I was sitting here, the whole observation about Dwayne and him only going left and flushing left as a default

and not nearly as good going to his right throwing the football was for everybody, including me, a really interesting observation. Now, I had many people say to me, Sheehan, did you go back in Audit Cooley's film breakdown to find out whether or not this is true about Dwayne? And my answer to that is no, I didn't. But intuitively, when you said it, I was like, yeah, like he ran left against Philly last week. He ran left in this particular game.

I mean, I didn't go through all seven starts last year. We could go back and do that, you know, and see if it's something. But whether it's true or not, what you definitely hit on, and it seems to be true, is he's not as comfortable going to his right and throwing as he is to his left, whether the default is to go left or not consistently over a period of nine starts, I'm guessing that it is, but he wasn't comfortable. That was just a really interesting take. It's like one of those things where people were saying to me, Cooley,

why isn't Cooley on that staff? Why isn't he a scout? Remember when, and somebody reminded me of this, remember when you basically told Jay Gruden in the staff what Dack Prescott did before, you know, before a certain play? I can't remember the specifics, but you basically nailed it. Like if Dak, do you remember what I'm talking about? Yeah, I do.

I know exactly what you're talking about. I had picked up on Dak's signals watching on film, and I could almost call plays when he used hand signals. Now, keep in mind, I did not tell Jay Gruden. I told you I wasn't going to. I'd said it on the radio, so anyone could have picked it up. Someone in the building definitely heard it. I tried to tell one or two people.

It was like, yeah, why don't you just go down and talk to a head of pro scouting and run it through there? But they know those things. And people change their signals. And I said, no, he doesn't. He's utilized almost the same signals for two years. I audited the actual Dak Prescott signal thing. But you pick up a lot of things on film. As the Duane stuff goes, it's my sense, my intuition.

And that's what I said yesterday. And I have a really good feel. And if you wanted to go back and audit that, I'm sure you'd find the same thing. On throws where he's throwing to his left, I bet he has a higher completion percentage. On scrambles, I'll bet it's nine out of ten to his left or eight out of ten to his left. And the intuition also goes back to watching every Ohio State game. And I've said this to you multiple times, as you said, Duane looked athletic last year. I said, as the year progressed at Ohio State and his last year there, I thought he looked athletic.

but in thinking through some of those scrambles for Duane, they were to his left at Ohio State too. The ones I remember specifically were also moving to his left. So this is a year before Ohio State plus last year plus this year. I'm sure he's had scrambles to his right. I'm sure he's made throws rolling to his right. I'll bet you find more to the left, though. I would bet good money on that.

Yeah. I would bet that you're right. the Dak Prescott thing, I forgot. So I was wrong. I thought you had somehow gotten a message to them. I do remember that you took my observation about Alfred Morris when he was pitched the ball versus being handed off the ball. You did take that to the offense. You took that to somebody in the building.

McVeigh. It was McVeigh that I took it to, Kevin. Oh, you did? And they tossed it to Sean. And they tossed it. Yeah, Sean, and they tossed it the next week. They did. They ended up pitching it to him because Morris needed it a little bit deeper and a little bit quicker was my observation.

And when that happened, he was in great shape. Remember, even out of the pistol, they would pitch it to him every once in a while. And I just made this simple observation that when they pitched it to him, it seemed he was a little bit deeper. He had a little bit more time and the results were better versus when they handed it off to him. By the way, lots of feedback on your offensive film breakdown. The other thing was those that are convinced that you're out to get, you know, Dwayne. You know, that you, you know. I like Dwayne.

I know. I'm not out to get him. I know. I like Dwayne. I'm rooting for his success. I know Dwayne personally. I like Dwayne. It's just, it's not in me to come up with a grade that's not the real grade.

I know that. And I was going to say on your behalf. half, which is fine, that one of the things that you told me, you know, last year during the year is you said, I like Dwayne. Like he is somebody that people like, and I'm rooting for him now. And not that you weren't rooting for him before, but you didn't like him coming out of Ohio State at 15 overall, nor did I. But the, one of the things that you said yesterday, and I just wanted you to clear it up, and because I think I know what you meant, is you essentially called what they are doing a, you know, a high school offense. And of course, people took that and ran with it

as a knock against Dwayne. And you gave several possibilities as to why, you know, it was a very scaled down offense at this point. Right. Now, obviously, Duane is a possibility. It's a new offensive coordinator. So there's a possibility that they didn't get a lot installed before camp. They have a young group of receivers. So there's a, there's a new offensive coordinator. So there's a new offensive coordinator. So there's a new, a big chance that they're not comfortable calling multiple past combinations. They have an offensive line where you potentially could have concerns about throwing the ball down the field in the dropback game. That could be a possibility.

They could be slow playing and establishing something week in and week out, which Joe Gibbs always did, which is another possibility. There are a lot of possibilities. It's just their combinations over two weeks were very limited as far. far as the passing game, which is, it's not a massive knock. It's just high schools don't have a lot of passing combination. That's what it was, is what it reminded me of. I'm not saying it is one. I'm saying, I feel like it reminded me of watching high school offense. I made the point to a friend of mine. I'm not coming off of that. I'm not, I'm not coming off of that. I feel very sure

of that statement. This is my, it was limited. Yeah, this is my favorite when, you know, when we, the film breakdown of the, you know, Cooley started this in 2013 or whatever with Zayben Galdi and then continued it with me. And one of my favorite things about Cooley is once he's watched the film, once he's, you know, looked at this stuff, he's not coming off anything. I mean, he's essentially, I don't know how many times like we would take calls and somebody would say no, and you'd say, no, no, no, you're wrong. I'm right. You can have that opinion, but it's the wrong opinion. And one of the things that I was going to also say, about the limited offense is the play that you started with when you started to evaluate Dwayne,

which was the sack that he took that knocked him out of field goal range in the first half. And you said, what was this play? Like nobody's open, nobody's going to the sticks. These are, this isn't even a good concept. So some of that and some. It's two by two, it's two by two quick game. Two by two quick game that's essentially a zone beater that has very little man beaters. And Arizona's playing man to man coverage.

And three out of the four routes are five yards short of the sticks. So some of that is on the coordinator. Agreed. And I said that. Yes, you did. Yeah, you did. You know, the funny thing about that play, because I went back and watched it this morning, because I played that one section back on the radio show, is that if that really was the plan, they should have just run a draw and kick the field goal. Like, but, and they'll learn. Look, this, it's early. It's two games. They're all feeling each other out. But the feedback was terrific on, well, when I say terrific, it was a lot of feedback. Some people upset about how critical you were of the offense and of Dwayne and of whatever. And some of the people, you know, saying, my God, that observation about the flush left thing is something that he should be, you know, sharing with the coaching staff, which,

I don't think you'll be doing. I wanted to mention... He completed two balls down the field more than 10 yards. Two out of 33. And one of them was a third one. What do you want to say? The passing game was dreadful in the offense. I don't know what to tell you.

Statistically, when you complete two balls down the field, you're not getting big plays, buddy. No. But they did run that slant well to TM, to Terry McLaren. Yeah, TM cut about... slants for 150 yards and that was the extent of their passing in one deep ball to sims right sorry and i'm not again duane didn't play well but i'm not saying it's this basic simplistic because of duane exclusively you'd have to ask scott turner why it's as simplistic as it is

which i'm sure someone will this week and also keep in mind last week ron said you will not see the full extent of our offense until next year i also said a lot of the things things they did in Carolina, like utilize the back in third down situations or in choice route situations. They are not doing. Yeah. Their player versatility program, which is actually not a real thing, but for the extent of this, this conversation, the versatility and the use of players in different spots is very limited. Logan Thomas extended one time outside that I thought he could have caught a ball and a third down early.

But other than that, they're lining up where you expect them to line up, though they're shifting and motioning. Their players are where you think they're going to be, which also makes it harder to dictate coverage or understand what you're doing as a quarterback. If you have a tight end outside and now back goes out of the backfield to the other side,

they're going to show you their cards. His motions and shifts are going to get to the point where they're just going to wait it out. All right, we're going to get to. to your defensive film breakdown. I've got one other thing, maybe two other things real quickly before we get started on the defensive film breakdown right after this word from Indochino. Hi, this is Paul Tenorio from The Athletic. When I buy dress shirts off the rack, I tend to end up with shirts that drape off my broader shoulders and look boxy on me.

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There were a couple of things that I wanted to just touch on real quickly. Sort of what are you guts, I guess? One is, because I talked to Tommy about this on the podcast yesterday, but I did not mention it to you. I don't know if I've mentioned this to you in the past or not, but I have this thing called Trigger Finger. Trigger finger is basically like a, imagine your finger gets locked into place when it's closed, and then you have to force it open and it clicks to open.

Right now, my middle finger on my right hand, that's what I have. I've had it many times, well, I see many. I've had it three times before over the last five years. I'm convinced that I have developed this in summer months when I play too much golf, which I've done during this pandemic. Anyway, to make a long story short, a lot of you reached out with advice, and I appreciate the advice. I did end up talking to my orthopedic, my friend Mustafa, who's a great hand specialist,

and I found out that my cortisone shots from previous trigger finger episodes were on my other hand. So I'm going to go in Monday and get another cortisone shot in my hand to take care of it. I bring this up because so many of you suggested cortisone pills and that that was the way to go if you have reached your limit on cortisone shots. I didn't have to ask him about that because I'm eligible for a cortisone shot. But there were many other suggestions, which, by the way, are not fit for air even on a podcast as to what I should do with my middle finger and trigger finger. But anyway, thank you for the suggestions. Have you gotten cortisone shots before, haven't you? I maybe one a long time ago.

I wanted to get one in my knee recently, and they wouldn't do it because they said it's degenerative. It would help for six months, but then it would be the same problem. Right. So I haven't. But I mean, I also have never had Triggerfinger or stonising Kenosinovitis. Is that what it's called? Yeah, stonosing tenocinovitis. Uh-huh.

That's the medical description. That's the clinical term. Yeah, I just thought you'd been shooting too many guns. I didn't know. Well, I, it's funny because one of the thing, it's really an arthritic thing. And when I was reading through the description on Wikipedia yesterday, which is always a great source, it talked about pain. I haven't had any pain with it. It's just uncomfortable to.

you know, close your hand and then when you open up your hand and your fingers, one of them won't move without you forcing it to get through this click thing. And that it's just, it's like an uncomfortable feeling. So anyway, the cortisone shot will take care of it. I'm thrilled I can get that. We don't have to spend it. Is the triggering, is the triggering usually worse in the morning? You know what it is. It definitely is. Why? Why do you say that? I'm just reading about Triggerfinger. Is that one of the things that it says it's because once I get going and I'm using, like as an example, I've had this for a month.

When I get out and I start swinging a golf club, it goes away. But I think it's the grip that is causing it. It could be a lot of other things. Who the hell knows? But anyway, I bring this up because I couldn't believe how many people tweeted me. And actually, Cowboy Clay texted me with some advice. I would say that when he gives advice, you know, it's a 50-50 thing. Usually it's not based on direct experience with him.

He's an expert in almost everything, just to ask him. But he brought up cortisone pills also. I'd never heard of that. I've had, man, I probably had, I don't know, half dozen minimum cortisone shots with my back years ago, I got a couple of those cortisone shots. Whatever. Thanks for the advice on that. There's a couple of other things real quickly before we start your film breakdown as well. Gail Sairs passed away, Cooley, earlier this morning.

Gail Sairs had one of the most unique careers in NFL history because people that watch Gail Sairs, and I did not watch Gail Sairs, okay? Gail Sairs had one of the shortest careers for a Hall of Famer in NFL history. history. He was a rookie in 1965, and he was out of the league, essentially, by the end of 1969. Now, he played 1970 and 71 with the Bears, but he played four total games with them because of multiple knee injuries. Of course, Gail Sayers, many of you know, Brian's song, the movie that, you know, really was a tearjerker in the 70s. That movie has maintained its popularity over years. The relationship between a black player and a white player who were rooming together,

Brian Piccolo, Gail Sayers in 1960s, Chicago NFL is one of the famous stories of all time. But what Sares was for a five-year period, and really it's four and a half years because his first knee injury happened in the 68 season. It's unbelievable what he did, Cooley, in such a short period of time. keep in mind the NFL seasons back then were 14 games, not 16. He had in his rookie year, where he was an all pro and rookie of the year, 14 rushing touchdowns, six receiving touchdowns, and then in return touchdowns, where is the list of returns? He had in 65 his rookie year, a punt return for a touchdown and a kickoff return for a touchdown. So, In that particular year, he had 22 touchdowns as a rookie in his 14-game season.

He was a superstar. He was Barry Sanders before Barry Sanders. The change of direction, the speed, the short window speed, and then the acceleration, and then the be able to outrun everybody. In 66, he played, he rushed for 1,231 yards in a 14-game season. which is really an incredible year. And he had another 10 touchdowns rushing and passing, but also had two kickoff returns for a touchdown. 67, he had four returns for touchdowns,

a punt return and a kickoff return in 1967 to go with seven rushing touchdowns and receiving touchdown. He truly had one of the incredible meteoric rises in an NFL career in history. But it ended so briefly. He became a Hall of Fame or Coley at 34 years old. He was so great in basically a five-year period, 65 to 69, that he made the Hall of Fame on the first ballot as a 34-year-old.

If you watch Gail Sairs highlights, the Kansas Comet was his nickname. He was at Kansas before Rigo got there. You know, Rigo and his brother came in after the Gail Sairs era at Kansas. Kansas. And then Rigo played on some really good teams and Orange Bowl team at Kansas as well. But Gail Sayre is one of the most unique NFL careers ever because it was so short, so fleeting, but there isn't anybody that watched him that debates that he's one of the greatest that ever played, even though he only played five years. And he passed away at 77 years old this morning, which is, you know, way too young. But he has been living with dementia.

in recent years in particular. I remember one of those Super Bowl radio row years interviewing him, and he was such a pleasant and thoughtful guy, but one of the all-time great running backs in the history of the league. I mean, incredible to watch the highlights. Even though you're watching a different era of football, he was incredible, an incredible career. I mean, one of the first pure jump cut,

stick your foot in the ground backs. It was so much fun to watch Galesairs. And obviously, I didn't watch Gelsairs either, but watching highlights and going back and watching old film of Gail Sairs. They'd give me 18 inches of daylight. That's all I need.

Right. And that was all he needs. The other thing I always thought about with Gail Sears is he was one of the first guys to say, fuck ball security. Like the way he carried the ball so willy-nilly and he'd swim move guys with the ball and he'd be out in one hand. I just looked this up.

You know, in 65, he had nine fumbles? Did he really? I didn't know that. In 67, he had eight fumbles. And then after that, it's 68 and 69, he had seven fumbles in each of those years. He fumbled the ball a little bit, but he just hung it out there, man. He was probably one of the first guys that kids watched and went, oh, I don't have to have it high and tight the entire time.

And it was more fun. Just the way he carried the ball made it a lot of fun. But his one cut and his jump cut and, way he crossed people over. Oh, buddy. I mean, that's so special. You know what's interesting about your fumble thing, which I did not look up, but that's a great observation, great information.

If you go back and you look on pro football reference, which is such a great, you know, site, and you look at box scores from the games in the 60s, even into the early 80s, you know, ball security was not a big thing. There were so many turnovers in games, so many turnovers. Like a quarterback throwing four picks in a game wasn't a big deal. A team having six or seven turnovers in a game was, obviously it was a big deal and it influenced the result, but it was almost as if they didn't realize during that time how much those turnovers did influence the result.

Although if both teams were turning it over, it probably washed each other out to a certain degree. But if you go back and I've done this before, especially with Skins games, and you look at old box scores, it's amazing how many turnovers there were. You know, the interception stat for quarterbacks, we know that Joe Namath threw more interceptions than he did touchdowns. You know, Sonny Jurgensen threw a lot of interceptions. A lot of quarterbacks threw a ton of interceptions. It wasn't nearly as big of a deal then. Ball security, I don't know when it became the big deal. I can tell you this. The Gibbs team, of the 80s, when they were plus 42 in turnover margin, that was the first time I think I ever

recall people dwelling and focusing so much on turnover margin. And Gibbs, I think, you know, for all I know, maybe Gibbs was one of the first ones to say, you know what? This was an old Ken Beatrice, a longtime sports talk host in D.C. This was one of his adages. It was more games in the NFL are lost than one. And Gibbs really had that mantra to a certain degree. They were going to protect the football and they were going to try to take it away.

And that result, that turnover margin was going to be the biggest difference maker between wins and losses. It's funny because it's gotten to the point now where on Friday, you do Washington wins if. And you can't even say, well, if they win the turnover battle, which is essentially, if you win the turnover battle by two plus turn. turnovers, it's over 80% that you win the ballgame. Right. I mean, it is the true, one of the true determining factors of every single game who wins and loses is essentially extra possessions. Yeah, it's, look, I just pulled up one of Gail Sayers games, all right?

In 1967, Colts Bears, right? This is the Johnny Unitas Colts against the George Hallis Gail Sayers, Chicago Bears. at Wrigley Field in Chicago. The Colts won the game 24 to 3. You know how many turnovers there were in this game? Nine. Baltimore had four. Chicago had five. And I'm telling you, if you go back, I mean, Johnny Unitedis threw three interceptions, the great Johnny Unitas through three interceptions in the game. I'll take any game from that week in the NFL and just click on it and see how many turnovers there were. Here's one. The first game I clicked on, the Browns and the Steelers, October 7th, 1967, Browns won the game 2110, seven combined turnovers in the game.

It was just a different thing back then for some reason. Let's see who Washington played that week. They played Dallas this weekend. There were five turnovers in the game. That was probably low for that week. And now five turnovers in a game, one team committing three and the other committing two would be a significant number of turnovers in a game. It's strange. Ball security wasn't as important for whatever reason. Strange. It wasn't. You're right. And it's why the 32 turnover differential or the Gibbs turnover differential teams, it's why they'll never be beat because most teams don't even create 32 turnovers in a season. Right. It was plus 42. Yeah, 42. Yeah, which you'll never, you said 32 earlier.

I actually knew that stat, so I shouldn't have said that. But it's why, I mean, most teams don't create 32 turnovers in a season. Yeah. I just pulled up another game from that weekend, all right, Rams 49ers. The Rams committed six turnovers in this game, the 49ers 3, so there are nine combined turnovers. Anytime you commit six turnovers in a game, there's a pretty good chance you got absolutely run out of the building, right?

they lost on a last second touchdown pass, 2724. So the Rams turned it over six times, three more than the 49ers, and it took a late drive by the 49ers to beat the Rams. You just wouldn't see that today. The team that committed six turnovers would have gotten throttled more times than not. But anyway, it's interesting about the NFL now. I mean, the games changed so much, but I'll tell you what, Gail Sayers, He was Barry Sanders before Barry Sanders.

They're so, I mean, I guess there are a lot of comps to him. Like, in terms of the backs that weren't necessarily elite or at that level, Terry Metcalf for the Cardinals was one of those guys. But Sears was totally unique for the time. Anyway, rest in peace. One other quick thing before we get to your film breakdown. John Orand was on with me this morning, and he had the television. ratings for Washington's first two games locally.

And I thought I was looking for him. They hadn't been posted, and I called John last night. And I said, well, you come on the show? And he said, yes. And I said, do you have the DC numbers for the first two games? He said, no, but I'll get him. So he's got access to this stuff. The week one game against Philadelphia, 14.3 locally.

That is horrible. I mean, that is just a terrible local television number for the football game against the Eagles in the opener. As a comparison, last year's opener against the Eagles, did a 19, which isn't good either for an opening day, but it was down nearly five points from a year ago. And then week two, it was up a little bit, but John explained that it was in the four o'clock window, which is always a higher rated window. It did a 16.5 against Arizona. I would argue that part of that, too, was there was a little bit more interest coming off the win over the Eagles because in that time slot in the 4 o'clock window on Sunday here locally,

Cooley, it was Washington, Arizona on Fox, and the Ravens were playing the Texans on CBS. Same time. And we have seen when the Ravens go head to head with the skins in recent years, the Ravens do very well. They take some of that audience away. The Cowboys always take a big audience away. But still, and I'm not going to sit here and pound on the erosion of this fan base as relates to this franchise. We've done that enough over several years. But the first two weeks of the season, the local TV ratings for the football team, are not very good. Not very good. If people, last year, they really were awful and they really tanked the last couple of years. People have always asked me, what would have been, what would that number have been in the heyday?

Oh, it would have been well into the 30s locally, well into the 30s. You know, you would have had, you know, for opening day against the Eagles, it would have been, you know, worst case, 28, 29 locally, 30, 31, 32, and it was a 14.3. So if you're just judging by television numbers, and we've seen this in recent years, the people that are interested in watching the football team is, it's essentially, you know, cut by 55 to 60 percent in recent years. You know, that's a real number, you know, that, now are people consuming? them in other ways? Yes. I had somebody say to me this morning when we had this conversation,

a lot of people have checked out because of the name change. I do know some people who said when the name changed, I'm done. I do not want to follow this team anymore. The tradition, the sense, the feeling, you know, they cave to the woke left, et cetera, et cetera. I'm not watching. I have no idea if they're really following through. I have one friend that has followed through because I texted him in the middle of the Philadelphia game. I said, are you watching, you know, Chase Young? And he goes, nope, I told you. I was. isn't going to watch the games. I'm not watching the games. But I think that that's not a huge percentage. I think it's just the people that have gotten tired of the team and they're going to have

to win to get people back, period. Any thoughts? If you're looking for a reason to not watch the games, then you're going to find a reason to not watch the games. For me, the name change has zero impact on whether or not I'm going to watch the game. I think essentially the losing over extended period of time and getting your hopes up year in and you're out, It's just waning. People are tired of it, and when they win, they'll start watching games. That's just the nature of what it is. They win, you'll watch games.

They don't, won't watch games. Totally agree with that. All right, let's get to the film breakdown right after I tell you about my bookie. Go to My Bookie right now. They're going to double your first deposit up to $1,000. It's real important that you find an offshore shop or a shop that's onshore or a legal sports book. wherever you turn, you need to know that you're getting quality and fair point spreads and money lines and that you're going to get paid if you win. Not every place that you turn to

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grades. I kind of like to overview the defense and I like to go through some things in a couple of the plays and then we'll get right into the players. But they're watching this game. They gave up a lot of yards and they gave up a few big plays. But essentially when Arizona didn't have good field position, they didn't necessarily finish drives. I mean, the touchdown drive to start the game, it's on Washington's 48. The next touchdown is on Washington's 40. field goal they had a 61 yard drive and then they did have one 80 yard drive to end the half for a field goal and then later in the game one 80 yard drive for a touchdown but i mean a lot of the drives where they were backed up the defense ended up getting themselves off the field

it wasn't awesome on third down i think it was a 41 percent third down conversion rate for Arizona, which isn't horrendous. It's not going to lead the league by anyways, if you're the Washington defense. They also gave up a fort down and one that didn't end up really costing them in the moment, but it was it was okay defensively. To give up 30 points, you would think it would be much worse defensively. Right. But it was 80 plays.

Their offense, the Washington offense could not stay on the field. and that is a huge part of defense. And you look at the first half possession chart for Washington, punt, punt, punt, fumble, punt, punt, punt. First play, the first drive of the second half, punt. But then three straight scoring drives. Correct, then three straight scoring drives. But when you give up 80 plays, or you're on the field for 80 plays,

it's tough. And in part that's because of the offense not being able to stay on the field. And it's not necessarily up-tempo by Kingsbury. It's just they have the opportunity to run that many plays. They own time of possession. They own the ball. And it made it tough on the Washington defense. I'm not going to sit here and say they got exhausted late in the game,

but that last drive, they were tired. Those last couple drives, you could see guys wearing down. It places a lot of plays in an NFL football game. It just is. So I wanted to go through a couple plays just that I thought were interesting in this game. The first one is a third down and two early in the ball game where they run a read option play. And I've sat here and I've looked at this play over and over and over again. And I'm just fascinated with how they even think they're going to stop read option in this situation.

Because Arizona is a little bit overloaded to the offensive right, but in turn, Washington overloads to the right. And after a shift, Landon Collins follows the tight end over. when Kyler Murray pulls the ball, Montes Sweat is crashing hard to the back. Yeah, Kenyon Drake. So he's taking himself entirely out of the play. Now, I think responsibility-wise, his job is the back. Now, that said, God, it's Kyleor Murray, right?

Kyleor Murray, the guy who has more rushing yards right now than McCaffrey, more passing yards than Mahomes, more rushing touchdowns than Ezekiel Elliott. the guy that you don't want to have the ball is the guy that ends up taking the ball on this play. And when you're talking about read option, I'm giving Kenyon Drake the ball 10 out of 10 times to the overload side. If I'm the backside D-N, and again, I don't think that this was his fault. I think it was coached this way on read option. He is going to ensure the handoff.

The defensive end is going to ensure the handoff and then crash. It's just what it's going to be. He's got to play Murray. He's got to play Murray. After Murray pulls the ball, Fabian's outside with the tight end and he's got to play him because if there's any boot action. And you're essentially left with KPL as a single defender who essentially is going to have to run through two blockers to get to Kyler Murray.

Now on the backside of this, Landon Collins keys and plays the run on a backside play. I think they're in man to man. And if he trails the tight end who's coming across the formation, he would be the one guy that would have a chance to make the play. I think Landon ultimately makes a decision that's the wrong decision to key there. But my God, how are you going to, like, they want to give Kyler Murray the ball. Yeah. How are you going to stop it?

I just, I can't understand how they're going to stop it. On a play later, barely later in the game, they do the same thing. And Ryan Kerrigans comes crashing. off the backside to play the back. It's like, gosh, what do you think's going to happen? It was the touchdown that got called back.

Okay. That Ryan Kerrigan's just crashing and Landon Collins gets Dionne Sanders. Dion Sanders? Yeah. Murray's got his little high step and his little shimmy and he just easy outruns Landon College. And I'm looking at like,

what do we, how are we going to stop this thing? I think it's tough. I think it's going to be tough for a lot of teams. I mean, you have to assume and play quarterback, right? That crashing defensive end can't crash. He's got to play quarterback and make him give the ball to Drake. Isn't that the solution? It's the only solution.

You don't have another choice there, in my opinion. Right. I mean, the other option would be to just to send. add a defender to the side that Murray could pull the ball, which then, of course, they're going to give it to Drake, but you're counting on. And here's the answer. And here's why what you just said is the solution. Because I'm going to count on to the Drake side, Chase Young, Duran Payne, and Jonathan Allen to come up and stop inside zone. I'm going to have to count on one of my guys to make a play there. We're just going to say, we're not going to let Tyler Murray in the open

Phil. You know, Coley, the other thing, your suggestion on Friday were if they get a chance to lay a 15-yard hit on them, remember in the early days, 2012 of, you know, Shanahan and then Roman and Company in San Francisco and Russell Wilson, obviously with Beville in Seattle, when all of the people that thought that they were running some sort of wishbone offense, they didn't understand it. You know, they're, oh, the defenses will adjust, and they'll just start murder. the quarterback, you know, on this read option stuff. And that never happened. But if you wanted

to just say to Montez Sweat, on this zone read look, pretend that Kenyon Drake isn't even on the field, go hit Murray. And if you get penalized, that's fine. That's the opportunity to do it without it looking super cheap. Well, yes, yes and no, because he's in gun. If he gives it to Drake, it's going to be tough. But yeah, I get it. If they even start a mesh point handoff, just beeline the quarterback. Yeah. Remember when that was the thing? The thing is, is all I'm suggesting is if Montez sweat just squeezes and holds there, he'll ensure the handoff. And then he can still go play handoff late. Like if they make Drake, Bo, or hesitate, Montez can still get in on that play. It might be at two yards, but it's not going to be the end of the

world. But I'm just not giving up big plays to their best player. You think they play the Patriots and Belichick's going to crash the bath because he's not. He's just not. I thought they could have run Zone Reed much more in the game, but they were up and they didn't really need to. The first Murray touchdown run was an awesome misdirection type of play. But God, everybody's chasing misdirection. The one thing I would say on that play, and this happened on both Murray touchdown runs that actually counted. Jimmy Morland's clearly held on the play. Like,

clearly held. Obviously, it's not good. Troy Apkey misses a bad tackle. Well, they called the Army got nullified. They called the hold against Morland. Oh, they did call that. Yeah. Yeah. That was a hold on Morland, which was obvious because Murray ran right by him if I remember it correctly.

Yeah, 16. Whoever were 16 is holding them. But, I mean, you have no nobody else out there to play it. If it's not a hold, it's, it's brutal. I mean, Darby's out there getting his asking. And you're like, how are we going to play these Murray runs? Great. So, I don't know, there's some tough ones. There was the Isabella play deep that I just wanted to go through quick and then grades. But the Isabella play where he gets the ball over the top of Bataki. Yeah. It's a two-man route combination in a run-action pass. And Isabella is running essentially a corner post. On the other side, Arnold's running a deep crossing route.

Ultimately, Landon Collins, in the Washington defense is a quarters coverage. They have four defenders covering four quarters of the field, deep. Landon Collins starts to cut the crossing route, and that's what he should do. So now he's not the deep player. The corner behind him would back up his, and his quarter and become a half player. And then Troy Apke also starts to cut the crosser or step down to the, the crosser, which he shouldn't do. And at the same time, Jimmy Morland has also got eyes on the crosser. It's a two-man combination, and we have three secondary players watching fucking Arnold.

Right. One of the, like, Morland did, Morland should have been there as well. Like, it's bad on APQ, but there's no reason for Morland to sit there and play up. He should have ran with that as well. Like, as Isabella started to the corner, that would have been deep. into Moreland's quarters. So it's just bad all around. I mean, these are a couple plays, but they're the big plays,

and they're the plays that change the game. Yeah, they had some big ones, you're right. So those are the tough things. And I told you, this is a defense that can be excellent, but they can't get beat on big plays. You have tackle better and they can't get beat on big plays. Now, if there weren't a ton of big plays, there's another one late to Christian Kirk,

or later to Christian Kirk that he gets over the top of Darby, which is a hell of a ball. But other than that, it wasn't a bunch of gaping runs. It wasn't a bunch of wide open receivers. I mean, there's a couple. Like, there's some promise to this defense. Really, there's some promise to this defense as a defense that can play bend but don't break, but should be able to get after the quarterback and get guys in long second and third down situations. I'm I think this defense got a real chance. Even even even giving up 30 and 350 yards, whatever they gave up in 80 plays, I think this defense still to me resembles a defense that's going to get better throughout the year and it's going to scare people. The deep one to Kirk, um, where Darby is covering them,

that's a hell of a throw by Murray. By the way, on the move. he's moving right and rolling right. It's a design play. You can see it where he looks left and then comes back right and rolls right. The coverage isn't terrible by Darby. That's just great execution by Arizona, don't you think? Yeah, I think that Darby gets run by a little bit on the play. It's good execution, but Darby's a better player than that to get run by right there.

So I don't think it's great coverage on that particular play. Yeah. Man, that is the more you watch that play, that may have been. Ben Murray's best throw by far. I mean, that is perfect. Perfect. Anyway. Continue.

Anyway. All right, let's get to the grades. Where do you want to start here? Russian roulette. Start up front. Let's start up front and move towards the secondary. All right. Let's start with our guy.

Yeah. Please. You got to start with Chase Young. The positives. Man, again, versatile rusher in so many ways, speed rush, bull rush. He can rush with power. He can rush with speed. I mean, he's just constantly up the field.

He's constantly a problem. Into the second half, they just decided they were going to chip him with backs, and they were going to give extra presents to him throughout the game, double him with tight ends. They were worried about Chase Young. The thing that continues to impress me with Young, and we know this, but his absolute athleticism is awesome. There are two or three times in this game

where they're trying to screen at his side. And that's what you do with a player like this is you try to get your offensive tackle to cut block and screen at his side and just change his rush ability. If you think you're getting cut on the third step, then are you going to come up with true speed? But his ability to play the cut block,

put hands on the back of the offensive tackle, and then rally to the screen, is unbelievable. Right. I mean, it's two or three times in this game, and it essentially just deters anyone from trying to do that to him. Hey, look, this could slow him down as a rusher, but we're not going to get a play to a side

because he's going to play the cut and he's going to get back out there. I mean, it's just awesome. In the run game, the ability to take on a tackle, hold contain to a run to his side, but then shed the tackle and make the play inside is like a true, trust in his ballgame. He knows his responsibility, but he also knows when he's achieved the responsibility and can go make a play inside. Like, I have been so critical of guys doing this in our

defense, more so three, four outside linebackers through the last five years. They're out there playing contained and the ball carrier cuts back up inside of them. And they're like, well, I got contain out here. Hold on. Let me, let me do the coolly impression there. I'm right here. I'm doing my job. I'm doing my job. I know the other, I know I could make a play, but I'm, but I'm following my responsibilities. Oh, they just ran right by me, but I was following my responsibility. How many times have we heard that in the film breakdown? So many times, but to me, it's always that theory of your jobs you get the ball carrier on the ground, not to take on the blocker. Obviously, you've got to take on the blocker to ensure that you can get the ball carrier on the ground, but at some point, get rid of the

guy blocking him. Shea's young can do that. So I just watched this guy, and I, I, you know, and I, I see an impact on so many plays. His ability to chase the quarterback down, I mean, his ability to rally to the ball and chase the ball down field, it's awesome. Like, there's even a play where Murray, he bounces outside on the left, and Chase Young is up the field and he misses the tackle.

Yeah. But he makes Murray bow so far back downfield or back behind the line of scrimmage that as they rally the ball, this ends up only being like a half-yard game. It's not like he's immediately beat, and he's forcing him so far deep into the backfield that it's a no game. So, I mean, mistackle, sure, but God, the best athletic quarterback in the league has got a bow so far because of it that he doesn't get any yards. It's awesome. That was, you know, that play, Cooley, I think was credited as a sack to landing Collins.

because I think it was... So if it was a zero-yard gain, it would be a sack. I don't, yeah, I don't know if they gave him a sack or not on that. I believe that that was one of the sacks. It's a good play by Landon. That's a play where Young reaches out and dives for his feet, and he's flushing left and Collins comes out up and basically runs him out of bounds. I think that was called a sack.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a good thing. play on the edge by KPL and by Landon Collins. But I mean, it's initiated by Chase Young. He's just, when you watch a game, he just impacts so many plays. And there's very few plays that he doesn't impact in a positive fashion. He didn't drop a lot in coverage. I thought one or two times he looked comfortable. Look throughout not a ton of negatives. Like a run early,

he's up the field a little too far. He gets kicked out. Back comes back under him. later in the game on a you know what I wrote this is a positive I forgot about this it says negative but it's not

he has an end tackle stunt so he's going down the tackles looping around him he feels Murray bounce to scramble and he's able to keep contain and keep Murray back inside like his adjustment off script there to what he was doing was awesome

I thought I thought young was really good. Like you're not going to see a ton of tackles in this game or sacks, but he impacted the game. He was an A-minus. All right. He starts off the year with an A-plus and an A-minus. That would be all pro-material through two weeks, which I think anybody watching football that knows anything about football has seen 99B the best player on the field defensively. on a field with several good defensive performances through the first two weeks.

Continue, please. I thought the best player on defense was Duran Payne in this game. I think Chase Young impacts the most plays, but Duran Payne impacted a ton of plays in this game as well. The interception. He played 47 plays. Yeah, the interception, he's looping. He's a looper. You know, a caddy?

Yeah, pro job. But he's right there in the face to hit Murray as he lets that ball go. Murray's got to duck that hit. And that was huge. I mean, that forced the ball out. It's a heck of a play by Landon. But as you start watching this, he's in the backfield. So many plays impacting things.

Fighting through blocks. He's strong enough when he's getting blocked to make arm tackles. It's awesome. His interior rush one-on-one was so impactful. Even on the Isabella ball deep, like one guy is making a play there. And it's Duran Payne. He's got his hands in his face. That's a heck of a throw by Murray right there.

Not a lot of negatives for Durant Payne in this game. Constant nuisance, constant problem, constant interior rush. He was the best detackle in this game by far. So it's funny when we talk about out of their three, who do we like? Well, it was Durant Payne in this game. Really, the only negative was a false start on a second and ten situation in the third quarter. I didn't see a lot of negative. I thought Durant Payne was an A in this ball game.

I mean, real quickly, before you get to the rest of them, I just, and I've told you this for two years now, to me, his best moments are better than any of the other interior defensive linemen's moments. Like, he has the most upside. You don't agree with that, you. Yes. Yeah, when you watch what he just did in this last game, yes,

there's no doubt that he has the most upside. Okay. I would agree with that. Another guy I thought was really impactful, didn't play a lot of plays, but when he was in was really good was Tim Settle. I think Tim Settle only played 15 total plays, but he was constantly on the other side of line of scrimmage, put pressure on Murray in a couple past situations,

impacted runs. I thought Tim Settle was really good. I think there was like a third and one stop, which they ended up getting the fourth down. But man, he's over the center and he is kicking his ass. I thought Settle was excellent, which is interesting because you're like, How many plays do we play this guy?

We don't want to take our three first round draft picks off the field. Right. But at the same time, you know, could we take 15 plays for Settle and make it 25? Could make it 23. I don't know. I mean, there's four guys they're essentially rotating. And Allen had 50 plays and Dron Payne had 47 and Ionitis had 42. It is funny, by the way.

I suggested that Duran have a few less plays. you remember last week he had about 20 more plays than anybody else inside and he did they cut the way count a little bit with their own pain and they increased Allen as well which is was part of your suggestion to increase Allen yeah yeah that's interesting about settled because he was noticeable I think he drew a penalty on on one play remember you know he was super young when they when they drafted him out of virginia tech you know and and there was this sense that it may not happen for a few years because he's so young and his body's still developing, but that he had a lot of upside potential down the road.

And now, what is he? He's in his third year. So he's probably like 22 years old because wasn't he 19 or 20 when he drafted him, I think? It just goes to show they've got a lot of depth up front, a lot of depth. Yeah, they do. I thought Settle was an A. I mean, it's 15 plays.

So it's not the end-all impact, but it's still 15 plays. And so I don't know, I thought he was really, really good. Jonathan Allen. So Allen is one of those guys. He can get the backfilling make plays. He didn't make a lot of plays in this game. There are times where you see him split double teams. He did get doubled quite a bit.

There are times where he split in a double team and making a tackle in this game. It's constant hustle. It's constant work. he's a really consistent player, especially when he's healthy. He didn't truly impact this game. He wasn't all over the field. He wasn't a true penetrator. It's funny, on a lot of the passing situations, Alan was the guy they chose to double.

Alan was a B-minus in this game. They chose to double him more than what? Pain or Ioannitis? Both. Interesting. You think that was on purpose? That was part of the game plan. Yeah, it's hard to say a lot of times, too, it's where you're sliding your line.

Like, if you're Arizona, you're going to go ahead and you're going to slide your line to Chase Young. So a lot of times it just happens to be where they're sliding their line and where the extra players coming from. But yeah, I don't know, buddy. I was super impressed with Arizona's ability to slide their lining and get some stuff done on the interior. but at the same time, guys to win for Washington one-on-one. So B-M-M-A-Lan was a B-minus in this game. Matt Ionitis, look, I continue to see good rush in past situations and versatile rush. Early in the game, on a third down at two, he's got a dip and rip,

and he's up in the backfield, and he's making it. It's a pressure, essentially, it's not. But, I mean, he's in there on Murray. It's impactful. This interior rush is constantly impactful. It forced the grounding on a screen play. A little stunt gets in the backfield right after the fourth and one. He does a really good job of taking on two in the run game.

Not a lot of negative. Not a lot of times he gets watched. On occasion, he can run a little bit with the double team. But I thought I and I just was really consistent in this game as well. I thought he was a B plus. Man, these are really good grades for a team that gave up 30 points. like they got dashed. It wasn't like they gave up a ton of big runs. They got beat by Kyler Murray. My first thing on Monday morning was to say, you know, I know they gave up 30

points and they gave up some yards, but I didn't think that the defense played poorly. I mean, that was my sense watching the game throughout. And I think Murray and that team is going to do, they're going to make a lot of teams look bad that are playing well with good players. to the star. Let's go to Montes Sweep. So I'd still like to see Montes Sweat be more impactful. I think he gets a lot of one-on-one matchups, and he's going to because of young.

Now, there are times where he's got good upfield rush. There are times where he's stunning inside. Like, the Lenin Collins pick, it's a great rush inside. I mean, it's a great loop by Durant Payne. But Montes Sweat is creating the edge there for pain. And he's taking two on an instant. inside stunt play. I think that that's huge. Speed rush on a third and five in the fourth quarter. He's got a quarterback hit. He's forcing the ball to be thrown away. It was big time.

There are a couple things where I'd like to see a little bit more from sweat. There was a fourth and one reverse where he lost contain that I think was glaring. Right. You're like, oh, God. But at the same time, there goes Tyler Murray moving away. Everybody's looking at him. He'd like to see him there. I'd like to see him make some more. plays. I'd like to see him be a lot more impactful as a just true brute when people try to block him in the run game. I just want to see him be more physical. He was a C plus in this game. Ryan Carrigan. Ryan continues to show up. Not many snaps. It's not on every single play, but Ryan does continue to show up as a guy. He played 23 snaps in this ball game.

23 snaps. I mean, there are times where you can see him push the pocket off the edge. There are times where you can see that old Ryan Kerrigan rip rush. He's up filled with some speed. And there are also times where he's crashing down and run situations out the backside where he's got enough speed to get there. I don't see him with a burst anymore. I think he's slowed down just a little bit. There are a lot of instances where he just has no second move. He has no counter. or once he's blocked, once he's bumped, once he's banged. He doesn't have a true counter. He had a mistackle on a third and two later in the game.

He was a fourth player on edge, and he's got a mistackle. I mean, he was a C plus in this game. I thought you were going higher there. But like I'm saying, like Ryan does continue to show up. It's just funny. It's like his showup plays are about five plays out of 21. And there's not a lot of negative to Ryan Kerrigan. But there's just, he's got four or five plays where you're, there's 91.

Got to count for him. So again, I think they're front five, front six. We're pretty darn good in this ball game. What about Ryan Anderson? Ryan Anderson just doesn't play very much. You know, he played 19 plays once or twice up the field. I wasn't, he was a C. I wrote down C.

I didn't have a lot of comments to Ryan Anderson. So as it was graded, not a lot of comments to the grade, not a lot of impactful plays. He was a C. I don't know if you, you know, did anything on Smith Williams who actually played some. Look, against Kyler Murray and that team, when they're running 80 snaps, you're going to get a lot of defensive linemen. You're going to get a lot of rotation. But Smith Williams actually ended up with seven snaps, the seventh round rookie from NC State. So did you look at him or not?

Because they seemed to like him. He wears number 96. I actually had to pause twice. Twice he showed up on the edge. And I was like, is that 96? Yeah. Who the fuck is 96? Right.

Seven snaps. Five of them were in run defense. He was, there was not one play that I graded Smith Williams below your generic average play. Okay. I thought he was a B on. on seven points. That's what the thing said, my thing. That's what your thing said. Three point three point three point three point three point three out of five. Right. Okay. You're going to get to the linebackers next and I have a couple of questions about the linebackers.

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had a couple man coverage gaps. I didn't think was consistent inside. And Bostic, who started a little bit as well in coverage, I said big concern. I thought they were much, much better against Arizona. Now, there still are some things that we got to clean up. But when you start with Pierre Lewis, that was one of the things that I thought got cleaned up in this game. I thought he was awesome.

He was all over the field. He ended up with 13 tackles. this ball game. His run keys were really, really good. You can see him waiting on the back, but feeling where he's going to end up hitting good gap fits. Really impressed with his kind of ability to sense the ball in there. Big play, big, big play in the game on a third down and two, fighting through traffic to end up getting a hit on the running back and forcing a fumble. That was absolutely huge. Speed. Just speed. Number to number speed. Like you saw a reverse early in the game to D'Andre Hopkins and KPL able to run that thing down from numbers to numbers.

Real speed there. And you can see it. As a zone defender was much better, playing things in the flat and forcing throws, but coming up in and rallying to the ball. I thought was really good. Tackling was really good. He's a good blitzer as well. When you put him in blitz situations, he's good at timing it up, but he's also good at attacking a shoulder of a guard and not just getting blocked as a blitzer. I thought I was impressed with that. Man-to-man coverage matchups with guys like running backs this week

was much more consistent with KPL. I thought he played well. I thought he was 13 tackles, only one missed tackle I thought in this game, and a forced fumble. To me, he was an A. Wow. Yeah.

This is crazy because I'm going through these guys. I mean, we'll get to the secondary, which wasn't an A. But I'm going through a lot of these guys, and it's like, we gave up 30 points. They're on the field 80 plays. Right. But KPL was impressive.

I thought so too, yeah. Boston. Okay, so to me, better in coverage early, more consistent in coverage early. Like the Landon Collins pick, he's able to look up the crosser, and he's right there as well. He may have a pass breakup,

or he may force that ball to be high as it is because Bostick's right where he needs to be. He had a sack on a blitz, which was big. block shedding was much better in this game. I thought last week he really struggled to shed blocks. I thought he was much better at sensing a ball carrier and getting off blocks in the game in this week.

A great tackle on a quarterback draw. Some of the negatives. Still caught up with some run action stuff. Caught up in misdirection. On a Murray touchdown run, that first one where he shakes Troy Apkey. Yeah. Watch. Watch Bostick.

Watch Bostick and Jonathan Allen on that play. At the end of the play, Jonathan Allen's still running the other way with the misdirection. I'm watching it right now. It's good misdirection, but my gosh. Yeah, John had no clue where the ball was. Not a single clue. I actually didn't note that in there.

Well, it was like one of these weird fake underhanded pitches to the back before he took off going right. And that's what. Yeah, John. Fake underhanded pitch to 41 that takes about nine defenders. Yeah, no doubt. That was the play. So I did make mention of that play earlier. I said, Jimmy Morland got held on that play.

And you said that was called. That wasn't called. That was a touchdown. No, the one that got called was a hold against Morland. Morland got held on that play. And that called it back. But on this one, you're right. He gets held on this one too, and it doesn't get called.

Yeah, correct. It doesn't get called on that play. So, yeah, I guess call the hold. Actually, you know what? On the one that did get called, my fault, it wasn't, it was Moreau that got held on that play. Right. It was Merow that got held by Arnold.

Right. And it was a really weak call. Like, Moreau wasn't going to make a play on Kyler Murray on that play. Ronald let's go as soon as Moreland starts to turn outside. I mean, I'm all in favor of calls that go our way. But to me, that was a super weak holding call. Moreau was getting his ass kicked. And as the quarterback got to the side, it was like, oh,

and Arnold let go and put his hands up. He's got no, like Arnold could have let his hands up a second and a half, two seconds earlier. There's no chance Moro's going to tackle Murray in open space. As a side note, I think it's the biggest mistake in open space to throw your hands up as a blocker. Because throwing your hands up is essentially saying, I was holding, but now I'm not holding. Right, yeah, sure. He always threw his hands I had to have been holding.

I'm not holding. I just was, but I'm not anymore. I was holding, but now, now I've sensed it, and I am now not holding. Right. You didn't see me hold before, but I'm going to throw my arms up, so now you think I may have held.

Now you're just going to throw the flag and just think that, you know, I was trying to dupe you, which, by the way, I was, 10 yards the other way. Also, on the fourth and one call that they got, I thought DJ Humphreys held the shit out of KPL. Like, I thought KPL on the fourth and one reverse had a chance to make a play,

and he gets held on that play. Not bad position by KPL, and he gets held big time. There were three or four holding calls that they missed on Arizona on impactful plays. Well, this, the fourth and one play that they ran was exceptional. Kingsbury's very creative, don't you think? It was exceptional, but I think KPL got. held on the play, so I don't think the play should have counted. Yeah, and I got you, but I, it was, it was, it was a, it was a great play.

And keep in mind, I mean, that fourth and one was, was in their own territory, deep in their own territory that they ran that play. Yeah. No doubt about it. Back to Bostick real quick. A couple glaring plays, fourth and five, he's an underneath his own defender. It's, it's quarter, so there are only three defenders underneath, and he gets matched up with Larry Fitzgerald. And essentially in zone coverage, you become man to man on that inside

receiver. And that is a tough matchup for an inside linebacker. But Larry Fitzgerald just undercuts him and runs underneath him on a fourth and five. It's an easy throw. It's an easy catch. And that's not an advantageous matchup. But you got a little bit of help outside. So let's try to maintain inside leverage on that play. And then right after the back goes up the seam on a Murray overthrow. It's covered two, which I haven't seen almost any of. And Bostick's playing the Tampa Mike linebacker. So he's got the middle of the field essentially. Yeah. You should have help from Apki a little bit, at least presence, and he doesn't because that back comes flying out of the backfield, and he runs right by Bostic. It's like, okay, you are the

Tampa linebacker, but that guy's blazing by you. Who do you think's going to get him? So I think on Bostick there, you'd want to carry the back. It ended up being an overthrow, but that would have been a easy touchdown. The back's wide open right there. But Bostick, again, more consistent. I love Bostick as a run blitzer. He's awesome at timing that up. I think he's really good at getting in the backfield.

I thought more consistent in coverage throughout the day. He only ended the game with four tackles, which I thought was strange. I just had a little tackle chart going. And I really only had Bostick on four tackles, maybe two other half tackles. Bustick was a B. It wasn't last week. It was better. All of them looked more comfortable in coverage.

I mean, right now, I mean, if you're just listening to these grades and you miss the game, you're like, oh, they had another dominant defensive day. Yeah, you would think that. But then we're going to get to some of the secondary grades. Are you going to do Sean Dion or not? Because I pointed this out to you last week. It's six plays. it wasn't, he didn't really have much of an impact or non-impact on any of the six plays.

They definitely didn't play Sean Dian Hamilton as much, but Arizona didn't utilize as many two-tight-end formations. My question to you last week, they, their base defense is a four-three defense for the first time in, you know, 10 years. And in a four-three, you got three linebackers. You have a middle linebacker, you have a strong-side linebacker, you have a weak-side linebacker. And in the first two games, they've basically only played primarily two linebackers. That Sean Dionne Hamilton as the third linebacker, now there's no Holcomb and there's been no Thomas Davis in the first two weeks. But they've basically either been in nickel or maybe Cameron Curles playing sort of a linebacker role when he's been in there because he's been getting snaps. But if you just went on snap counts, they're not in their base defense very much. they have four defensive linemen,

but they're not playing three linebackers. They're playing two linebackers. And I wonder if that'll change with Holcomb and Davis being available, but they do not. And maybe the opponent, it's certainly on Sunday, they were a nickel just a ton of the time,

and they weren't in their base four or three. But they're only playing two linebackers, basically in these first two games. Yeah, it's a four-two nickel situation. Yeah. I think with the lack of linebacker, if you did have heavy tied-in teams, that I still have this belief that playing five guys on the line of scrimmage, which you'd call an underfront, and Ryan Anderson playing the strong-side linebacker would be your best situation. And keeping KPL in the middle. I have not seen Ryan Anderson line up at linebacker when he's been in the game.

He has not. And that's not a characteristic of Carolina defense over the past five years and what they do. So they're not going to do that, is my guess. But to me, that's your strongest bet versus bringing in Chondy on Hamilton and putting him in the middle. I just think he's uncomfortable in the middle of the field. I think you put Ryan Anderson on the ball, let him play edge as a run player and flat defender in your underneath zone coverage. And I think you'd be better suited to do that at this point with the linebackers. that that would also change i think holcomb will play when he's healthy yeah let's get to the

secondary let's see the secondary all right so everyone knows that troyapke didn't play exceptionally well in this game and i think the biggest thing is you're going to see two glaring mistackles on kailer murray and you're going to say let's let's downgrade the shit out of him because he had two mistackles and he did and he can't miss those tackles he's also run by in quarters coverage on the isabella bald beat so that's a that's an exposing moment for him. And I mentioned the seam ball overthrown to the running back with Bostick. That's cover two. And Apke just jumps all over the widest receiver like he's locking him up in man. Now, again, I know how cover two's played. I'm not saying that they didn't say Troy

will match the inside back if the back comes out and Bostick's got him. But if it's just playing cover two, God, you got to midpoint those two receivers to some extent. and hope that depth with the corner on the outside helps take away the throat of the outside, but at least midpoint it somewhat. There's nobody in the middle of the field. He's not glaringly bad, Troy. He can run, right? I mean, he can really run.

You see that in the run game sometimes when he's flying up. Yeah, you can see him flying up in the run game. You can see him a little bit more consistent with some coverage stuff. the problem is when you're a free safety you can't have four plays that essentially result in touchdowns go against you

right you're the safety there's a reason they named it the safety because you're supposed to keep everybody safe from getting over the top yeah

I thought Troy Apki was a D plus C minus right on that fringe which one I'll put it in D plus slash C minus. I mean, maybe the teacher's, you know, maybe the teacher feels a little bit sorry for him after last week and says, eh, give you a C minus here.

It's more of a D plus. Okay. We'll leave it at that then. Lannin Collins. God, he got fucking high-staffed on that touchdown that was called back for the holding on Arnold. I mean, D-on. That, that, Calor-Marie. hesitation, Dion High Snap.

Yeah. He just took him. He just took him to town right there. And so here's my other thing with Landon. Twice, the back gets out and he's taking angles that are not good. Now, one, he ends up barely tripping him up. And another one in the third or maybe even the fourth quarter of the back gets out to the right side and Landon takes a shit angle.

And he gets out run to the sideline. Like that for a box tackling strong safety, That's not acceptable. You can't get outrun to the edge. Some of his angles to speed to the edge, I'm not, I'm not completely sure of at this point. The touchdown, the first touchdown throw to Hopkins. Yeah. Is a what to fuck moment.

Right. What are we doing here? And he knows it. You know it's a what the fuck moment because I always say this, like the reaction afterwards. When a DB is not sure what happened behind him, he always looks at the other DB. like, hey, what the fuck are you doing? But when the DB puts his hands directly on his head, they're like, I'm accepting full responsibility for this moment.

And he did. And he did. Yeah. I mean, he knows it right when the ball's loose. He's like, oh, that's, oh, that's DeAndre Hopkins. He's already in the Hall of Fame. And I just let him go wide open. I mean, the hands are on his helmet even before he catches the ball for Collins.

Yeah, even before he knew. But you're like, what are you doing? What was he doing, Chris? Like he's a, I'm just going to twiddle my thumbs here for a minute and see what's going to. Oh, the ball this went over. Shit, that was a play. That was a real play. It really happened. Oh, that counts.

All right. Well, we'll get him next time. Can we do that one again? I wasn't ready. I said it wasn't ready. I said I wasn't ready. Wait. You know, one of the reactions on this play,

Moreau is obviously turning Hopkins over to Collins and if you watch Moreau at the very end in the coach's film he just looks at Collins and his arms down to the side and he's thinking to himself, hey Landon, what happened there? What the F are you doing? And Collins is like, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know. It's only 7-0.

We got plenty of time. It's like that moment. You're sitting there in a meeting. Someone calls your name and you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, what? Yeah, no, I didn't hear the question. I haven't heard anything you've actually been talking. It was like that day we were doing the radio show. I know, I know, Zuckerman.

And you ask the exact same question. Hey, yo, Kevin, where have you been for the last 20 seconds? Don't you remember what I was doing? Yeah, I know exactly what you were doing. is the day sports betting became legal. That was your memory. I didn't remember that, but you said that a while back. I remember you remembering it.

Yeah, they had just broken the news that sports betting was going to be legal. And Cooley's asking Zuckerman questions, and then I repeated verbatim, Cooley's question. And both of you laughed simultaneously. I'm sorry, were you paying attention? You did it twice. I did it twice in the same interview. Yeah, I don't think the Nats were very good that year.

And we love Zuck. but I don't think I was real interested in the topic, which should have been an indication that we shouldn't have done the topic right then and there. But I think we were locked into Zuck, you know, even late in the season. Yeah, we were out of it. It was a lock-in segment. So those are some of the negatives from Landon. I mentioned the fourth and one.

I said KPL got held. No, it was Landon that got held on the fourth and one. Right. Landon. Oh, the other negative I thought Landon had, we talked about this. on one of the early on one of the early Murray read option runs is

he keys and hits front side Murray pulls it goes the other way I'm pretty sure they're in man-to-man coverage and his guy goes across the line of scrimmage to pull out in front of Murray to help. Yeah. I think he's got to trail that kind of behind the linebackers

and stay man there. And some of that read option stuff, he's got to go with his guy. So that was that was that. The positives. Again, I like Landon in coverage. I think he's done a pretty good job in coverage. And mostly he is a consistent tackler.

He ended with five tackles in this game. Mostly he is a pretty consistent player. The pick was huge. The pick was a big time, I see it type of play and go and jump in front of that thing. To turn them over down there on the 20 yard line should have resulted in points. That was a big time play by Landon Collins. I mean, at this point, I would just say you got a score on defense. DeAndre Hopkins right there to tackle him.

But that was a big time play. Huge place. So I went through some of the negatives. And again, with Landon, when you're talking about the safety, you're like, do you have a couple standout plays? It's a safety. It's a little different. He was a B minus. Okay.

The corners in this game will start with, I don't even know where to start. I know where I want to start, but I'm going to end with it because I want to end on a positive. Jimmy Morland. Jimmy was bad in this game. He was bad. Missed a tackle on a second and three screen on the fourth drive. Third and five on the fourth drive. He's beat by Larry Fitzgerald.

It's like, God, I actually noted this. Our coaches that third and five on the fourth drive should pull that clip from Larry Fitzgerald because it's a clinic for a receiver reestablishing vertical. after contact by a DB. So Jimmy contacts him about five. Larry then pushes another three steps, hard vertical up the field, and then almost spins Jimmy around,

makes him fall down. It was awesome by Larry. It's not the worst case, because I thought the receiver ran one hell of a route. But it was awesome by Larry. Again, he's a Hall of Famer. Locked on covering him. Yeah, he's a Hall of Famer who's 39 years old.

Larry was pretty, Larry had seven targets, seven receptions in this game. Wow. I didn't realize that. He's really, it's incredible, right? How great he is still. It's incredible.

Underneath zone coverage, when he's inside is almost that nickel player down inside. I thought he struggled. You know, there was an easy throw to Fitzgerald later in the game. He's so busy playing eyes of the quarterback. And you're like, I do this. This is the other thing I do all the time. There's one guy in your zone. Do we really need to look at the quarterback,

or should we just go attack the guy in our zone? him and then he ends up being late to Larry and he ends up having to miss tackle. He had two or three missed tackles in this game. Now, I think he can make tackles because on a Hopkins screen, he makes a great tackle later in the game. A little soft sometimes in coverage, a third down where he lets Larry, another third down where he lets Larry Fitzgerald angle out and come back inside. You should have to be tighter than that.

Larry's got a big body you if you're not all over him anyways, but you've got to trust that you can run with Fitzgerald in some of these situations. stick with him. I thought slow to flip hips in coverage. I told you the Isabella play. I thought Jimmy should have backed that up. I don't see what he's sitting on out there. So I think he's seeing a little bit too much in zone coverage, trying to see too much, trying to see quarterback guys. Another one late that he back-shouldered DeAndre Hopkins. And it's like, Jimmy's staring inside. I think that was a third down later in the game where Jimmy's just staring at the quarterback. Well, he's a he wants to make plays, right?

This is a guy that made a lot of plays in college, and he made a play last week. And he, I think, is it possible that he's staring down the quarterback because he wants to read it and jump something and make a play? Yeah, it's looking like some of that Josh Norman stuff, though, where he's staring down the quarterback. And if the quarterback just doesn't look his way immediately, then he's way too soft and off in coverage. Got it. And he's not quick enough, he was not quick enough driving, flipping his hips out of the break. Jimmy was a D. Okay.

Fabian. So Fabian was pretty consistent in coverage throughout the game, but there are some problems. Like the first third down and two where he gets picked on DeAndre Hopkins, and it's a little whip route. And then it's a mistackle, and you're like, God. Now, if you remember that early third down and two where DeAndre Hopkins, it's like an in and out.

That's actually what Peyton Manon would have called that, like in and out. or a burger or something. They had a name for it where it was like in and out. Double, double. I don't know. Like you'd like to combo that stuff off when you get in stack sets and when you're not going to combo things off. And this is the third or four time with stack sets

that we haven't comboed things off where the first receiver goes vertical, picks the defender, and the next receiver comes and whips back out of it. They're going to have to start thinking about combing off those stack sets and zone coverage every once in a while. Right. The thing I've always said to D.Bs, because this is one thing you always looked for on offense, is when the quarterback glances out to a stack set, if the DBs communicate a little bit, they're essentially communicating that they're going to combo off or change.

They're going to switch, right? Mm-hmm. I mean, but I've essentially said, what a quarterback looks out there, if you're not going to switch, have some bullshit hand gestures. It's like, oh, let's go, we're going to end and out this. We're going to combo this off. At least make the quarterback think you're going to combo it off. Right. Yeah.

It's not that hard. It's a, you got to go to the indicator if you want to steal a base. You've got an indicator first and then signal. Well, if we don't go indicator, then we're not combing it off. You know, if I don't, if I don't pick inside my nose a little bit as the indicator and then tap my elbow, then we're not doing it. Whatever. But it is hard.

when you're in those stacks sets and you're covering that. Like when there is action and near pick action, isn't it easier just to switch and combo it off than it is to stay with your man? Sometimes it is and sometimes it depends on the combination. And it depends on the guys and how comfortable they are at comboing it off. It just does. It's interesting when you watch these DBs though, Kev.

Like, again, another play later. Third and three Hopkins gets a back shoulder throw. Fabian's kind of with him. You're like, okay, well, when Fabian was thrown at, they had completions. Who is D'Andre Hopkins on a perfect back shoulder throat not going to beat? Right. It was a perfect ball by Murray. It was.

And it was a great job by Hopkins pressing vertical and coming back to it. And Burroughs not off in coverage. I mean, the only time he was really way off in coverage was that initial third down. The rest of the game, it's like you're going vertical and Fabian's right there with you. He's all over guys. But the ball's not thrown. He's like, yeah, man, regular old play. Didn't get thrown out.

Didn't have anything happen. Right. So I thought he was a B minus in this game. But I did think he was fairly consistent in coverage. Darby. Yeah. This was actually funny. I wrote this back-to-back notes.

Great plaster in off-script coverage. So as the quarterback gets out of the pocket, he is plastering. We've talked about that. I actually heard Tony Romo say it on the broadcast. He used it too. Okay. Everyone uses plaster. When the quarterback gets out of the pocket, you get on somebody.

You got to stick to him. Stick to him like plaster. Great plaster off script. Literally like one play later. no plaster gets run by by kirk eyes were on the corner back and kirk's over the top of him as murray kind of got out of the pocket there it's like damn kind of abort that first note

yeah but i thought you're talking about the deep one to kirk which we talked about earlier i mean that's that's murray rolling right with the intention of throwing deep to kirk um i thought derby he wasn't that far off it was a perfect throw he gets run by. Okay. He ends up recovering and not being that far off. Again, it's a great throw. And Murray's going to make these plays.

But you'd like Darby to not get run by right there. He just kind of gets his eyes on the quarterback a little bit too long in that situation. I thought a big time play by Darby on a fourth and one, they run that reverse. I mean, he tracks the receiver all the way across the field through traffic. And he ends up almost tackling him. for a no game. Like, that's a tough tackle. Now, obviously, you'd like that to get blown up in the backfield,

but that was a heck of a job by Darby, trailing that thing and making that play. Right. I also thought in zone coverage, he was way better at driving on in breaks. One of my complaints last week, both him and Jimmy, any in-breaking routes, I thought they were way too soft and turned things over,

pass things off. I thought he was better at driving on in breaks. In coverage, other than the Kirk play, he was pretty good. But in the run game, he's not. He had zero block shit. Like that first touchdown run by Murray, the running back comes out of the backfield, like the speed option guy. And then he just goes and kicks the shit out of Darby.

And you're like, dude, just undercut the running back. They're not good blockers. Just undercut him and go play the quarterback. You got to take a shot on Murray. When you say undercut, what do you mean by undercut? Like go low and take the running back out? No, like go inside of him. Oh, I see.

As the back comes arching out towards you, step at him and then just like he's on his, it's the runs to his left. Understood. So I would essentially say dip your left shoulder, dip your left shoulder, get skinny through the back and go make a play on Murray. Yeah.

Like there are the, I don't know because I just, it's not a lot of times, Kev, that I've been out in space trying to tackle guys. But I just get the sense like, you got to feel that nobody else is out there. Like,

oh shit, this is coming at me and there's a guy coming to block me, but pretty much no one else is going to make a play on him right now. Like, I have to be the guy. I got to have a sense that you're there. I mean, there's sort of a sense in watching the Murray touchdown run that that Darby sort of has this responsibility to turn Murray back into traffic, like sort of outside contain. Yeah. So I made this point with Chase Young. Once you've actually established that you should win your responsibility, don't just turn him to somebody else. Try to make a play. Like once Murray starts to cut or can't out leverage you, which I guess he could

Gail Sares him, jump cut him and bounce back outside because it's Murray. But essentially, once you feel like you've achieved the responsibility, let's go make a play. Defense is so much about getting the ball carrier on the ground as well as taking on the block. You don't have to keep taking on that block. He's getting blocked through the end of the play. just so we're aware this isn't a massive downgrade on derby it's just i'd like to see it different i just don't think he's a great run defend corner but he's a corner you just can't get beat over the top

now two games in a row yeah he's a c plus and finally believe it or not i'm ending with the most positive in the secondary that i saw you know it is Cameron Curl. Cameron Curl was fucking awesome. So this is where this is interesting. I use PFF for essentially snapcams. They do a good job. It's easy to find.

It's easy to see the snap counts. I don't give a shit what their grades are. They record tackles, pressures, all these things. I think that they're 50-50 on some of the pressures, some of the impact plays. They also record targets and receptions at them in these targets. Cameron Curl's grade on PFF was middle of the pack. It was 66.1.

He played 32 plays. They've noted that he had two tackles. He had three targets at him, three receptions. Two of the targets at him, he is a hook zone player. And the ball's thrown at two yards, and he makes the tackle rallying up. Like Larry Fitzgerald had like a three-yard game. He's the hook zone defender, and he rallies and makes the tackle for a three-yard. game. That is what we're asking him to do. So how are we going to downgrade that it was a target

at him? Right. He did exactly what we want to do in a three deep, four underneath defense is attack the ball as soon as the ball, so I make a tackle for a three-yard game. That is how this defense, that play that camera curl makes on Fitzgerald, where he comes up and tackles and is an underneath zone defender, that is how this defense will be great because you'll make enough of those plays that nobody should be able to consistently move the ball down the field on you. Without big plays, those plays. That is what you're asking a defense to do. God, I thought just fighting through traffic making plays, there's a reverse to DeAndre Hopkins. They call a hold on either the tight end or the tackle on Cameron Curl.

They're holding curl. Curl hits the tight end and the offensive tackle and he knocks them both down and he draws a holding penalty. It's fucking outstanding. Wow. I mean, puts him both knocks him down. Two plays later, they're going with a little toss and Fitzgerald's trying to block him, and he punks Fitzgerald. Knocks him on his fucking ass. Is Curl in the game as a nickel corner when he's in the game? Yes. He is an underneath zone defending corner in the game, and at times they ask him to play man-to-man coverage.

And other than once, I thought in man-to-man coverage, he was really good. Now it's Arnold that he's covering, so you shouldn't, it shouldn't be that big of a deal. But again, I thought he was pretty good. The glaring negative play, he gets outrun on that last drive by Arnold. Arnold's running a steam route. He starts outside. Curl attacks it and Arnold undercuts him up the middle of the field. I guess I say undercut.

It means go inside of somebody leverage. And Arnold makes a big play down the seam. And you can see Curl gets beat. to man on that play. He jumped outside and Arnold got inside and he recovers, you know, fall down, but I mean, Arnold's wide open. For the most part, man, I thought curl last week looked inconsistent in zone coverage. I thought this week looked very consistent in zone coverage. And I thought other than the one play I went asked in man to man was good. And then I thought in the run game and as a tackler was awesome. I thought, curl, I gave him an A minus because he gives up the one

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Oh, two, five. Hey, hey, trigger finger. Why don't you pull that trigger? I'm going to pull the trigger right now. How impressed were you because one of my takeaways from Sunday was keep in mind, when the Cardinals got rid of Steve Wilkes after one year, there was a lot of criticism that they got rid of Steve Wilkes after one year, and they hired Cliff Kingsbury. Like nobody saw this hire coming. Cliff Kingsbury was a college coach at Texas Tech, and not even a winning college coach

at Texas Tech. but he had coached one Patrick Mahomes. I'm just curious as to how impressed or maybe not so much you were with the Cardinals offensively. I thought all of the college stuff, a lot of the looks, I think it's very creative and they're going to be really difficult to defend. What did you think? I would absolutely agree. I think that was why they hired Kingsbury was because of his ability to. operate offensively. I will tell you this as well. I've always been impressed with Steve

Kime. I think a little bit through the Rosen stuff. Right. You questioned Kime. But to me, Kimes's always done a great job of building talent on Arizona teams. And some of those Arian's teams were incredibly talented. And this is an incredibly talented Arizona offense. Going out and stealing D. Andre Hopkins was absolutely huge for them this year. Drafting guys like Kirk and Isabella and taking the risk of drafting Murray and knowing and punting on Rosen right when you knew I think was absolutely huge. So I think Kime also has done a heck of a job with Arizona. But Kingsbury seems to fit what they're doing with Kyler Murray. And Murray makes plays. I mean, he's got he's got playmakers. But gosh, they are going to be tough to stop all year. They just are because he's going to

beach in ways that you shouldn't get beat. I mean, clearly they hired Kingsbury because they were going to be able to select Kyler Murray. Like all of the conversation leading up to that draft, remember there was a time in which Kyler Murray was not a lock to be the number one pick. But that was the fit. You know, it was him working with Kyler Murray again because he had already worked with him at one point, you know, or, you know, he'd worked with Mahomes.

He had worked with Mayfield. He had worked with Mansell, you know. So this was an opportunity to pair Murray and Kingsbury together. So that is great vision from the general manager, Steve Kime. I don't think there's any doubt about it. One other quick question about the Cardinals specifically. Remember the draft where people were talking about Isaiah Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is the next Lawrence Taylor.

I told you, Clinton was so high on Simmons. He thought Simmons should be considered before Cheshung at number two. Simmons has had a very rough start. Do you know how many snaps he played defensively for the Cardinals against Washington? Seven snaps. That was it. I know it's only his second game, and you probably didn't even notice him on the field, you know, in that game. But this has got to be disappointing if you're a Cardinals fan thinking that, you know, two years in a row, you get, you know, Kyler Murray,

and then you get your defensive star, and it certainly hasn't started that way. I just don't think they found the niche for Simmons in that defense. Because right now, I think that if you're going to play him in the middle of the field, essentially he's that kind of like do-it-all kind of guy. He could rush if you need him rushed off the edge. He can play lineback if you need him to play inside. Essentially, a lot of people thought he could be a nickel player and be an impactful nickel player in the run game.

But I think the diversity of NFL offense versus college offense has been a little bit different from him, the ability to rush. He's, to me, undersized as a guy that's going to play on the line of scrimmage. He's just, he's kind of like that. You've got to find a niche for him. And essentially, it might be playing him in multiple positions. And the Cardinals could be very multiple on defense because they have guys in there. Like Hassan Reddick is almost the same type of role.

Yeah. Simmons plays very upright. He plays very upright, I thought. And I don't know if that's a bad thing or a good thing. But I remember saying before the draft, he doesn't play like Lawrence Taylor. Like anybody that's going to compare him to Lawrence Taylor, it's not the right comparison. There might be a better comparison, and he may end up being a great player. Don't get me wrong.

But I didn't feel like he was, you know, that guy. Now, he ran 4-3-9 and he's 6-4 or 6-5 and 240 or whatever he is. He's outrageously athletic. But it was, I don't know, it looks. looked upright and straight line speedish to me, not great feel. But we'll see. I mean, it was just early, I was just curious as to whether or not you had an observation of a guy. No, I think he's one of those guys, too. Like, remember Arizona had such success and we're one of the first things, first teams to play a safety at inside linebacker. Right.

Like, what was the guy's name? Yeah. It was the guy that everybody was trying to copy. Oh, people are listening. People are listening saying, oh, come on, guys, you can get this. We should be able to get it. I'm going to pull for your right. This is one of those ones where I don't even really want to look at it. Dionne Buchanan. Yeah.

Dionne B. Buchanan. Everybody thought that they could be, that they could create this hybrid, you know, linebacker safety. Well, that's what I think that they see in Simmons. And I think Simmons can grow into that role. Right. I'm sure that they wanted him to be better. They pulled him after he got beat by Moster. He played the first seven or eight plays against San Francisco,

and then he got beat by Moster, and they pulled him. Remember the draft, Cooley. After Burrow and Young and Okuda, which were guaranteed to be the top three, the Giants were going to be on the clock, and a lot of people thought Isaiah Simmons could go to the Giants, and they took Andrew Thomas. And then you knew the dolphins were going to take Tua,

and the Chargers were probably going to take Justin, Herbert. And then you thought, well, Carolina will take Simmons, and they didn't. They took Derek Brown. I actually loved Derek Brown coming out in this and I have not paid attention as to what he's done in these first two games for the Panthers. But it was at eight that Simmons went, which was later, you know, a lot of people thought he could go as high as three or four to the lions or to the giants. And he didn't. I'm not saying that he dropped significantly. That would be the wrong description, but certainly there was this sense that, oh, Isaiah Simmons, Isaiah Simmons, this is the guy, this is the best defensive player in the draft. No, Chase Young was the best defensive. Chase Young was

the best player in the draft. I think even, it's two games, I understand that, but I feel comfortable saying that Chase Young five years from now, we will look back in this draft and say, Chase Young was the best defensive player in the draft. Maybe Joe Burrow turns out to be the best player in the draft. But wow, I mean, Young's first two games versus Simmons's first two games Simmons has barely been on the field. Yeah, no, I still think Simmons ends up being a really good defensive player. Okay. I think he's a, he's one of those versatile guys. Like, he's that perfect New England Patriots player where you can play him at 10 different positions. Right. And that's to me what Arizona is essentially becoming on defense, is an incredible

versatile defense where guys are playing in a lot of different roles. And we'll see. He's not Chase Young. And that's obvious. Yeah. One last thing before we run, because this was a story that broke just moments ago during the podcast, and I was reading it as you were talking about Cameron Curl. But I was paying attention to both.

You know I can multitask. Sometimes you can do that. Sometimes you're landing calls. So Tyrod Taylor, who didn't start the game Sunday and just a lot of, Herbert started for the Chargers in that first game for them in the L.A. Stadium against the Chiefs, that crazy game. The reason that he, Tyrod Taylor, didn't play was because a team doctor accidentally punctured Tyrod Taylor's lung just before kickoff while trying to administer a pain-killing injection to the quarterback's cracked ribs. And he had to be rushed to the hospital

after he punctured his lung with a pain-killing injection. That sounds more like Washington's medical team or training staff. That sounds like something it would do. That's a tough, bright man. Already you've got cracked ribs. And you're like, Doc, I need the pain injection to play. And then he punctures your lung with that. I would imagine that it's a pretty tricky injection there when you've got cracked ribs.

I'm sure it is. but that's one of those like, you're fucking fired, Bob. That's not good. Pack your shit up. Get out of here right now. The NFL Players Association has already weighed in, Georgia Tallis, saying that the players associations' medical and legal team have been in touch with Tyrod and his agent since collecting the facts and an investigation has been initiated. Tough break for Tyrod Taylor and the team doctor.

All right, good job with the defensive film breakdown. Cooley will be with us on Friday to preview the Washington-Cleveland game, Big Test for Washington on Sunday against the Browns. Everybody have a great day. Cooley, I'll talk to you Friday. See, Kea.