The Kevin Sheehan Show - 'Warriors' Makes Sense + Belichick's Next Job

Episode Date: July 12, 2024

Kevin and Thom today with an eclectic menu of excellence. The boys opened with Thom's difficult and costly trip home from Burlington, Vermont before suggesting that Bill Belichick would be the best choice to be the next US Mens Soccer coach. The guys followed up on the RG3 name polls and then got to 'Warriors' being the most sensible solution to the Washington name problem. The Pirates pulling Skenes from another no-hit chance, the Wizards' summer league debut, and Beverly Hills Cop 3 all among the topics addressed on today's show. Download the PrizePicks app today and use code Sheehan for a first deposit match up to $100! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheon Show. Here's Kevin. Tommy is here. I am here. The show's presenting sponsor.

As always, is Wind Donation. Give them a call at 86690 Nation or head to Windonation.com. The schedule is a bit off this week. Tommy's done Wednesday and Friday of this week. But next week, for those of you who like to plan your podcast listening, Tommy will be back on his normal Tuesday, Thursday schedule. We got a little bit off this week because I was away and I didn't get back until Tuesday and you've been away.

And there was breaking news on the podcast on Wednesday and the breaking news had to do with your return trip home from Vermont. So are you back? And if so, how did you get back? Well, I am back, and for those of you who like to plan, let me just say, like Mike Tyson said, everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth. Right. Okay, and Amtrak punched me in the mouth.

The whole point of taking the trip to Burlington was the train ride up there on the Ethan Allen Express, is very scenic train ride, and I like trains a lot. I wouldn't have gone to Burlington, Vermont. I mean, I did expect, you know, that I had read good things about Burlington, which turns out to be mostly false. Yeah. So, you know, the day before we're leaving, Amtrak sends me to myself. Sorry, train canceled. Okay?

Basically, you're stuck in Burlington. You've got to figure out how to get home. Now, Burlington, Vermont has a small airport. and there's not a lot of flights in and out of Burlington. Right. And there's no connecting. I mean, they're all connecting. Well, what was the next train that you could have jumped on?

Let's start there. I didn't even check that because I wasn't going to stay past Thursday. We wanted out of Burlington. What time was your train yesterday supposed to leave the train that got canceled? Like 9.30 in the morning. Okay. And so it's possible that the next train that you would have wanted to take back to New York, right? Yes.

Would have been this morning? Friday. Yeah. Yes. Would have been this morning. Okay. We wanted it out of Burlington. You wanted out of Burlington.

Right. And your wife wasn't really fond of the train ride up to begin with. No, but let me just point out, you know, getting flights out of Burlington was pretty hard. and very expensive for one way from Burlington to BWI within one day's notice. Right. Okay. And the price turned out to be, I could have flown back and forth to Spain for cheaper than a one-way ticket from Burlington to Baltimore. Okay.

So I had points. You know, I was fine. You know, my wife, she didn't have any, so I put her on a bus. bus, and she took the bus home. Oh, stop it. That's not true. Well, she didn't, look it. She was the one who didn't like the train ride, so, you know.

You did not put your wife on a bus, and you flew. Please, please tell me that you did not do that. It was very expensive. Uh-huh. You're making this up. You're making this up. Yeah, I am. Yeah.

We flew home. I mean, you would have. You would have flown home, and she would have never arrived at home. She would have been off looking for her next husband. So you both flew home. It was expensive. It was expensive. So how much?

Oh, outrageous. What was the price of the flight? Okay, for two of us, one way, over $1,000. Yeah, I mean, you're getting, if you're at $500 for one way from Burlington, Vermont, yeah, I mean, well, you got, you obviously, what did you fly? What airline? Southwest? American.

American Airlines. You know, there's not that many airlines to fly in and out of Burlington. Was it nonstop to BWI? Yes. No, I had to fly to Charlotte. Oh, my God. You had to go. Wait a minute.

You had to go Burlington to Charlotte to BWI? Yes. Did you check D.C.A? Did you check Reagan or Dulles? Well, BWI, no, I didn't. I didn't check those. Why? Well, because our car was at BWI rail station.

Oh, got it. Yeah. You know, there's a nice parking lot, parking garage at the BWI rail station. That's where we left out of. That's where our car was. So that was the ordeal, and the flights went fine. You know, everything went smooth. Oh, my God.

And we got home last night at about 8 o'clock and said goodbye to Burlington forever. Now, Neil and Rockville. text me that he's planning a trip to Burlington. Well, he doesn't, wait, did Neil go to the University of Vermont undergrad? Neil, I'm sorry. I don't know. I forget. Or maybe one of his kids went to Vermont.

I know one of his kids went to Syracuse. You know, I know that. I'm looking right now, okay. Burlington to just Washington, D.C. airports. one way for a flight tomorrow on Saturday the 13th. I see a nonstop flight to Dulles, two nonstop flights to DCA, bear with me here for a moment, for $265. And what you could have done is, I mean,

the idea of flying from Burlington to Baltimore through Charlotte for 500 bucks, I should have been your travel agent here. I mean, there are several opportunities. Let me just see. You're right. The BWI is not, you know, is a one stop, but there are several non-stops into Dulles and into D.C. And for half the price, basically,

you should have got on one of those flights and then just Ubered to BWI to pick up your car. It would have cost you a lot less and you would have been back a lot earlier. You know, you're right. I should have. I didn't think that, but I was under duress at the time. You know? You were so inconvenienced.

I was in a pissed-off mood, and there were naked men walking all over the streets of Burlington. Yeah. And I was, you know, kind of out of sorts, and I wanted to get out of town. You know, yesterday's show, I started the show off with an email, and I'm looking for it right now. because it made me think of something, and I'm going to bring it up with you, because maybe I was speaking a bit out of school. But, yeah, here, yeah, so Jason basically emailed and said,

Tom's train cancellation was not really worthy of a breaking news headline. But the gold pants, the gold pants trick was. It was something to that effect. And it just made me think about you and how, you know, of course, you being inconvenienced by anything is breaking news. I mean, for you, it has to do with you. And after you, everybody else comes first. And so that was breaking news. But it made me think of something.

And I talked about it briefly. And what it made me think about is how. much you and Tony, how similar you both are in a lot of different ways. And I think I've said this to you previously, and I know I've said it to him previously, because I always felt that it was strange when we were all working at the radio station for all of those years that you did not have, correct me if I'm wrong, but you did not have a relationship really with Tony at all. I mean, your office was right next to his studio, basically. You know, within five yards of his studio.

And over 10 years, I don't think you guys had that many conversations. Am I right or wrong? You're right. Now, I might want to point out, since we're going to go down this route, I might want to point out that before I started doing radio, we had a relationship. Okay. He gave me, we sat on a journalism panel once,

and we were both going to a book signing for Barry Salugas National's book, and he gave me a ride. You know, so we had a relationship before I started doing radio. Really? I didn't know that. Well, so why, I mean, I don't want this conversation to be uncomfortable for you, but having worked with you, you know, for as long as we've worked together now, 15 plus years, right?

Working with Tony as a part of his show for 10 plus years. I, there is so much that you guys actually have in common. And I think that conversations between the two of you would be really fun and interesting. Like, I don't know. And I never, look, I get the post versus. any other paper in town. But why was it that you guys did not, I mean, look, let me just back Tommy up here for a second. Tony very much was on an island at the station for all of those years.

He came in very early in the morning, did his show and left. Tony didn't hang around, you know, all day. Tony wasn't hanging around in the bullpen, you know, for an hour after the show. Tony was off because Tony had another job, too. He had to go to PTI right after radio. And so he did have his own little, you know, kingdom of Tony's show and Tony's shows, you know, Tony shows people, you know. And I kind of moved in and out of Tony's world in the station because I was a part of his show. and obviously we had a show on the station.

So Tony wasn't like super engaging with anybody at this station, but I always felt that the two of you would have been friends and would have had a lot of really interesting conversations and times together at that station. Well, you would have thought so, but let's face it here. If that were to happen, it would have to be initiated by the big dog. I'm not the big dog Tony was the big dog

He was kind of Yeah Okay But that's where it would I mean Basically You know I

I had no reason Not to have a relationship With Tony Right Yeah You know You say Tony was the big dog There were a lot of big dogs

At the station You know Coach Thompson was The biggest Of the big dogs We had But I had a relationship with Coach Thompson.

Yes, you did. Both of us did. He loved our show and listened, you know, every day on his way in to do his show. You know, what's funny is that Tommy and I, for a long stretch of doing the radio show together, I mean, we dominated. I mean, we had the highest ratings of anybody on the station. You know, that 12 did, remember, it was just a two-hour show that we did. I mean, two hours, all due respect to anybody that still does two hours.

But that's about as easy as it gets in talk radio, especially if you're, you know, you have a partner. But we for, you know, for several years, we had, along with Tony, we had the highest ratings on the station, highest ratings in the market by far for, for the demo that, you know, we try to attract, which is men 25 to The only station... Some of them were ridiculously high. Yeah, I mean, there were a couple of years there where we were right with TOP, which is the absolute behemoth in the marketplace. You know, the time slot was a good time slot. We definitely benefited from Tony's lead-in with Tony's audience because a lot of people in Tony's audience also liked our show as well. but yeah, anyway, there you go.

So you're back. You could have gotten back sooner and for less cost, but you just were flustered. Your schedule, you got, you know what? You got punched in the face. You got punched in the face and didn't handle it very well. And my plan went away. Look, imagine being in a jail cell, okay,

and there's a tunnel available right in front of you, okay, to get out. Yeah. But there may be other tunnels in the cell that you haven't found yet. What are you going to do? Look around for a better tunnel? No, you're going to take the tunnel that's there. I don't know if that's the best analogy, but I mean, Andy DuFran was like tumbling out of jail.

Andy Dufrein only had one option, and that was digging that tunnel from his cell. Yeah, all right. I wanted to read this because you'll love this. It comes from Dan on X, whatever, Twitter. Been a huge fan of you and Tom together in your podcast, Kevin, but both of you really embarrassed yourselves talking about soccer. The game is nuanced. And more than occasional watching the sport,

like during Euros or World Cups, would make it obvious. flopping's a problem. I'll give you that. I'm glad, Kevin, you appreciate the skill, but these are also the best athletes in the world. No debate. I'll keep listening, but today's show was a rough listen. He's talking about Wednesday show, where Tommy once again doubled down on his theory that if you sent the Super Bowl champions over to soccer camp for two weeks, that they could win the World Cup. They need three weeks. Then you send them to the World Cup, and there'd be hell to pay, baby.

Yeah. You send the Chiefs to soccer camp. You know, you get Mom to write the check for soccer camp, and, you know, you pack up your suitcase because it's sleepaway, and you're there for three weeks, and then you go play the World Cup, and the Chiefs would win it. Look, Dan, some of it is tongue-in-cheek like that. However, I have given the sport a legitimate chance for the last 10 years.

Tommy and I started talking about soccer. Tommy started to refer to soccer as the sport for non-sports fans 10 or 15 years ago. And I have tried to watch. There are times where I've actually enjoyed it, but it's not because of the game itself. that's not what's attractive to me. The game itself, I'm sorry, doesn't have enough action. It just doesn't. And you can talk about the NFL and, you know, if you add it up, it's only 10 minutes of real, you know, action.

But damn, those 10 minutes have a lot more packed into it than the 90 or whatever the number of minutes they actually play in a soccer game, which is just infuriating that the sport isn't precisely time. Yeah. Some guy in the field decides, okay, well, we'll play 94 minutes today. Today we're going to do four, but, you know, we might add, we could add for more, you know, more than four at the end of four. We just, well, it's by feel today. I don't know, man. I, you know, somebody sent me, Sunday's going to be a great day on the sports calendar. Wimbledon, followed by the Euro final, and then the Copa America final. Oh, please. Come on. I know. I know. Please. This is the elite. I might want to point out, and I posted this a couple of days ago, you know, I'm a subscriber to the athletic,

and I like the stuff that Ben Standing does. I mean, I think he's really good at his job. And I like some of the other stuff on the athletic. But the daily newsletter they send out is becoming the old New York Times sports section. Full of elitist crap that nobody gives a shit about. Really? I think... Absolutely.

Well, I agree with you about what the New York Times sports section used to be, but I don't see that sort of in the athletic when I... Well, next time, I'll send you examples the next time. But you're hard, pressed to find a baseball story sometime in the daily newsletter and it's baseball season.

But you have no problem finding WNBA or soccer or golf or tennis or polo or whatever. Yeah. I mean, so this speaks to this elitist group of sports fans who think they're smarter than you and I because they found a higher plane for their fandom. There's definitely a part of that, but I don't know if I would describe it as elitist. I would describe it as sort of hipster and poser. You know, the watch parties during World Cup,

and I'm sure there will be some on Sunday, are filled with a lot of young people. and I promise you that most of those people have no idea what they're watching either and aren't necessarily enamored with the game, even though they showed up in some famous players jersey. You know, I, it's just, look, our sports are really great sports. The NBA is probably the second most popular, you know, professional league in the world behind all of these soccer leagues, you know, Premier.

I think you always have to throw cricket in there. We don't know anything about it. It's the second most popular sport in the world, or maybe the most popular even. Cricket you think is more popular than soccer? I don't even know what I don't know if it is, but it's at the very minimum the second most popular. Whatever.

I mean, we could go on and on about this. I give it an opportunity all the time. And again, the Spain-France game, the atmosphere was incredible. And I knew that it was a big deal because it's Spain and France and a Euro semi-final. And I understand what Sunday is, you know, a final between Spain and England. I mean, this is a massive sporting event for Europe. And actually, much of the world will be watching Spain and France. in the Euro final. And then the Copa final is Columbia and Argentina.

Messies playing in that game. And I might actually tune in and watch it, but I don't enjoy the actual game itself. It's a hard, hard watch for me, nuanced or not. This from debt... Let me tell you. Yeah, go. Go ahead. No, you go. The soccer I enjoy the most. I don't know if you've ever seen it. It was a John Houston movie called Victory.

I don't think so. And it was about these... You ever see it? No, I don't think so. It was about these POWs, which included a bunch of soccer players during World War II, who played the German national team

in France during the war. Right. Okay. And Sylvester Stallone is in it. He plays the goaltender. He plays the goalie? I don't think they call him goaltenders. A real goalie, okay, a real leap of faith, but it's a good movie.

Paley's in it, you know? And that's the most soccer I've ever enjoyed. I'm going to triple down on the NFL, Super Bowl champ, and soccer. You know, apparently the United States men, the national team is looking for another coach, because like always, the men's team has shit the bed. Like they do every year, despite us reading about the growth of soccer and how soccer is becoming bigger and bigger in this country, but we still can't get apparently a soccer team to compete worldwide.

I mean, this has been a storyline for 20 years or so. It really has been. So they need a coach. I know a coach who's out of work. Oh, I thought you were going to say Ron Rivera. Oh, I want to win this, baby. You know what? Well, Belichick coached lacrosse. He is a fan of others. Tommy, Belichick should be the coach of the U.S. men's soccer team.

A hundred percent. He would figure out the strategies quickly because, you know, let's face it, the game actually isn't that complicated. It's not that nuanced. And motivation and discipline and all of those things would come into play. And look, they couldn't do any worse than they've done in all of these events. And they are qualified for the World Cup only because they're a host country. Yes, they are. Do you know that, and I just looked this up, and I looked this up the other day when they lost to Panama or whatever and got knocked out of the Cope or lost to Uruguay. The U.S. in the FIFA world rankings is ranked 11th in the world. I mean, they're ranked ahead of Colombia.

That'll change, I'm sure, after this weekend. They were ranked ahead of Uruguay who beat them, ranked ahead of Mexico, ranked ahead of Germany right now. How is that possible? Am I looking at that in actual, yes, these are the updated FIFA rankings as of June 20th. Argentina's won France, 2, Belgium, 3, Brazil, 4, England 5. I'm betting that the United States team is maybe better than those other team and nuances. Yeah.

You know, that's where they're really good at the nuances. Tommy. You don't always see them in the game. Belichick should replace. What was the guy's name that just got fired? Greg, Bertholder? Burrhalter. Burrhalter.

Here it is. I got it. Burholter. Isn't that pretty amazing? I had a semblance of the guy's name. Yeah. You got pretty close to it. Burrhalter. is gone, I think

Belichick would be a great hire. Would he do it? He probably wouldn't do it. I bet he'd do it. But you couldn't, you couldn't mess it up by hiring Belichick. You know, you're not going to get it to be any worse

than it's been. I mean, it really is amazing. For my entire life, you know, you mentioned Pele. When that what was it called in the 70s, was it the NAS, the the North American Soccer League, was it the NASL? Was that the name of it that came in the 70s?

And everybody said this is going to change the world of American sports. And that, for a brief period, was a big deal. I mean, they would fill up the Meadowlands, you know, sell out for those games. I went to RFK a couple of times for birthday parties. That's what you do. Soccer games are for kids' birthday parties. but I remember seeing Johann Croyfe play for the Washington diplomats. The dips.

They were big there in the 70s. You're right. Yeah, there was Franz Beckenbauer. There was Georgio Canalia. Franz. I think that was his name. Canalia, yeah. And Pele.

Pele was playing the Cosmos. New York Cosmos. Yes. But that didn't stick. That didn't stick either. There was a, that was a big, I want to say that the key to anything back then, and maybe it's still the most important thing, is a TV deal where there is, you know, it's not a barter deal, that it's actually a big money deal to put the games on TV. And if my memory serves me correctly, ABC was the home of that, and I'm looking it up right now. just to make sure. I think that sounds right.

It is the NASL. It was the NASL. The North American Soccer League. It says 1968 to 1984. I just remember it like in 1977, you know, somewhere around there where the Cosmos and every, like every Pele game for the Cosmos was on TV. And he got a bunch of money to play for the Cosmos. Let me just see if I'm right.

right about ABC. I knew a guy a guy I knew. It wasn't a friend of mine, but I knew him in Quaiton. From Strausburg, who was a tremendous athlete, Bobby Stettler. He was an All-American wrestler, and he was an all-American soccer player,

and he played goalie for the Tampa Bay Rowdies, I think, in the North American soccer league. Interesting. I know I've talked about a friend of mine who, because I think we had this conversation, I don't know, a year or so ago, where we talked about, you know, who was the best athlete in our high school. And in my high school class, like, there's no debate. Any guy you would talk to would tell you that Jeff Gaffney was the best athlete in our class at Whitman. And Jeff was not only the best athlete. He was

the number one soccer player in America for the Whitman team that won the state title with him. I think they won it once. He went to UVA and he's still the all-time leading scorer, because I looked this up when we had this conversation a year ago, in UVA soccer history. He ended up kicking in the NFL during the strike for the Chargers and they ran fake field goals for him because he was such a great athlete. He scored a touchdown in a game in one of those scab games. and then had an opportunity with the Cowboys and the Chargers again, but he didn't beat out, what's his face? The Chargers, Benershka.

Benershka came back. Ralph Bernershka. And it was close enough, and they went with, obviously, the players that had been striking if it was close. But anyway, he, I remember a game, a high school game, in which the Cosmos scouts were in attendance, watching him. There were also, you know, European League scouts that came to watch him. But he ended up having, you know, a great college career and then tried to kick in the NFL. But by the way, I just found it. So in 1975, the New York Cosmos created a media sensation and overnight transformed the fortunes of soccer in the United States by signing Pele. From the moment he signed his contract, Pele's every move was followed, bringing attention and credibility to soccer in America.

The Cosmo's home attendance tripled in just half the season Pele was there, and on the road the Cosmos also played in front of huge crowds that came to watch Pele play. So CBS had the original contract, but in 1976, ABC signed a contract to broadcast matches during the 1976 season. By 1976, North American Soccer League was being picked up by mainstream media with the sports pages of newspapers covering the league. The NASL was shown on the TVS network syndicated during 77 and 78, although some games were taped delayed and not carried in certain markets. The players, here's the list of the players, and we got some of them.

Canalia, Kroif, Niskins, Mueller, Usabio, George Best, I kind of remember that name. Was he? Yeah, he was the famous English soccer star. He was an Irish, but played at Manchester United. Yeah.

Nice. And there you go. I recognize that name. And Croif, is he alive? No, he does. I remember this. He died in 2016 at the age of 68 years old. Because I remember talking about him.

He was, you know what I wonder? I wonder if most of the fans of the sport in the 70s were foreigners, you know, were of foreign, you know, dissent. Were they, I don't remember a lot of my friends being, into soccer. Like nobody was into soccer more than football or basketball or baseball. It never, you know, playing this sport was always much more popular than watching this sport, which is still the case today. Yes. Yes. Yes, it is. Is that enough on soccer? Oh, I think who's your boy? The guy who sent that to you? It was Dan.

Oh, he's going to be real happy with this podcast. This from Dennis, Kevin and Tom love the conversation about Bernie Cozor. We had a conversation about Bernie Cozor the other day because he is suffering physically right now and has Parkinson's and cirrhosis of the liver, I think, is what it was. And we talked about Bernie Cozar and Dennis wrote, Kevin and Tom loved the conversation about Bernie Cozor. I'm from Northeast Ohio, and he was truly beloved in Brown's country. Remember also he wore number 19 just like Johnny Unitas. It is interesting to think of what you guys talked about in terms of Cozar's success coming from his brain, not his physical abilities. He had a good arm, but he was slow and unathletic.

He really was. You know, after the show, because that was the last thing we talked about on Wednesday's show. and sometimes I'll tag this show with a highlight or something and I went to try to look for Bernie Kozar highlights and I ended up kind of just going down a deep, you know, hole of Bernie Kozar highlights from that stretch when the Browns were really good with Marty Schottenheimer as the coach, you know, in the 80s.

Man Tommy, I mean, he really did struggle to get back into the pocket. But it didn't matter because the ball was coming out almost as he was still backing up to some guy who was just coming out of his break. You could tell he was playing chess to everybody else's checkers. And it was fascinating to watch a guy that unathletic, you know, play the position at such a high level.

And, you know, there was various plays in which, you know, it was Enberg and Merlin Olson or whomever was doing the game and they would just be mesmerized by Cozar's style, you know, and he really was, like, think about athletes like Cozar, like guys that have been incredibly successful in a team sport, I'm really thinking of, that didn't look the part, you know? I mean, he comes to mind right away from me, always has from that standpoint. I always think about Greg Maddox and how much I loved watching Greg Maddox pitch because there was nothing about Greg Maddox

in the way he pitched that would have made anybody think, oh my God, this guy is dominant. It was all precision. It was all with his brain. Right? Yeah. Absolutely. If you put him in a lineup with other baseball players and they'd say pick out the 300 game-winning pitcher.

Yeah. Nobody would pick Greg Maddie. Nobody would. You know, I guess you could say that about a guy like Barclay, you know, because of his size at the time. You know, you could certainly say that about, you know, Larry Bird. Yes. You know, but, yeah, Bertie Cozar really was an interesting, and by the way, an excellent college quarterback. And you know what jersey number he wore at Miami?

sure this is correct. He wore number 20. He did not wear a quarterback number. Yeah. Do you know, I can only think of in my lifetime of watching the NFL, and this was as a very, very young person, and he was playing with the Rams at this point, and I think he started his career with the Chargers, a player wearing a non-quarterback number, which was always, you know, between 1 and 19. And do you know what player I'm talking about? He wore number 21 at quarterback. John Hadole. You got it.

Yeah. I don't think I can remember any other quarterback. Did Doug Flutie? Now, Doug Flutie wore 22 in college, right? Yes, at BC. But did he wear that in the NFL? I don't know. I don't know if he did or not.

I think you had to get some sort of an approval. I'm going to look because pro football reference will have. No, he, Doug Flutie wore number two and number seven in the NFL. Okay. That was it. Yeah, John Hidal was a very good quarterback in his time and a very good golfer, I think. Oh, really? I'm thinking of John Brody.

Oh, you're thinking of Brody. Brody was an excellent golfer, correct. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I remember Hidal playing for the Rams. I don't remember Hadoe playing for the Chargers. but I think Hado may have quarterbacked the Rams in an NFC championship game. I'm looking that up right now to see if that's true or not.

John Hadole had Lance Allworth as his receiver for those great Chargers teams. Yeah. So he played in the postseason. He played, he did not play in an NFC championship game. did play in a playoff game against the Cowboys in 74 and lost. A game in which he went 7 of 23 for 133 yards and one interception. It's crazy. I've talked about this before, but when you look at old box scores from the 70s,

just how little teams through the football. You know, like Kilmer in Super Bowl 7, I think I have this right. I'm going to look it up. I think he was 7 of 14 in the game. Yes, he was. I think so. That may have been the NFC championship game, actually. But they were behind by two touchdowns for much of the game,

and they still ran the football over and over again, which is nuts. The 72 skins, I mean, that went to the Super Bowl as the NFC champions. Here, let me just pull up the games. I don't think of throwing the football. ball would have done him a whole lot of a lot better. But that's what the Dolphins wanted him to do. So I'm wrong. In the Super Bowl, he was 14 of 28 through three interceptions and threw for just

104 yards. But against the Cowboys in the NFC Championship game, okay, he wasn't 7 of 14 either. I had that wrong. He was 14 of 18 for 194 yards and two touchdowns. And obviously they had, you know, they had Larry Brown. They didn't need. That was, you know, he was their go-to guy. He was the player of the year.

He was the MVP. He's the last. Yeah. Well, Thysman won at an 83. Mosley. No, Mosley won at an 82, and Thysman actually was the 83 MVP. Yes. And that was the last time we had an MVP.

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in any way they can. But, you know, for me, gold pants, I mean, come on. I mean, that's not a needle mover for a long-time fan. I was surprised. I don't think it hurt them at all. It doesn't hurt them. I mean, I think they got a lot of media to buy into what they were trying to accomplish. They did. Apparently they did. Look, for me, and I think a lot of people of my age and my position as a fan, having lived through and remembering very, very vividly the championship years, you know, the gold pants are not their championship uniforms. They're not the Gibbs era uniforms. I'm okay if they go back to the old uniforms and they work the gold pants into it. I'm fine with that.

I prefer the old uniforms that were the championship uniforms, which did not include the gold pants, which the team didn't have gold pants from 1979 until 2010. I mean, they basically went 31 years without wearing gold pants. They wore the championship uniforms for a lot longer than they had the gold pants or the mustard yellow pants. But anyway, no, I don't have any issue with them embracing tradition and even working the gold pants back into this shitty uniform they have now. I just wasn't falling for the, oh my God, you asked for it, overwhelming demand and we're giving it to you. That's just not true. But anyway, this from Marky, what the hell does RG3 mean by safe space?

So Tommy, look, RG3 has a following man. I mean, he has a massive social media following. We can think whatever we want about RG3. But you can't deny. This guy's got 2.2 million followers on X, on. Twitter. He puts out a tweet and writes, hey you, yeah you, gold pants are back. This is a safe space. What else do you want brought back? I have no idea what he means by safe space. I mean, this is not a conversation that people have to feel unsafe about. We've been having it for years.

By the way, tomorrow, Tommy, July 13th, is four years to the day that the team, retired Redskins and moved to Washington football team, you know, which came like a week and a half after Fred Smith's demand that they changed the name. But, you know, the response to this is a safe space, what else do you want brought back, you know, it was overwhelmingly, we want the name back, you know, we want the old uniforms back. We want, you know, we want a total rebrand. So he put out a poll. In which time. Tommy, on Twitter, on X, he got 68,669 votes on a poll asking, what's your favorite new name if the old logo was brought back? He gave four options, the Washington tribe, the Washington Warriors, and the Washington Redhogs.

And then he gave only want the old name as an option. And that was 65.2%. Warriors was second, by the way, at 19.4%. Then he put out another poll. Would you rather Washington keep the current name or go back to the football team? And 60.3% said Washington football team, 39.7% said commanders. People hate this name. They hate it.

Yeah, hate it. And, you know, I mean, but, yeah, he. That's why you've got to be a fool to think that. They're not going to change his name. He also. He also had a tweet also, Dear Washington commanders fans, this is a safe space. Would you be happy if the old logo was brought back? I don't, honestly, I can't tell you what he means by safe space. I think it's as, look, I'm here for you.

The great 2012 RG3 is here for you, and I'm not going to judge, you know. look, we've been having this conversation for, you know, years and intensely over the last four years after the loss of the name. But, Mark, I can't help you with that. Do you have any, but I want to hear what you think about just the results, about RG3's reach, too, man. I mean, that's a lot of votes for a Twitter poll. I mean, this is much more than, you know, the post sampling of 500, you know, Native Americans back in 2016. even. You know what I mean? Like this is this is why I

like we've put out polls before that have gotten 10, 12, 13, 14,000 votes. Like, you know, and we know that they're coming from people who primarily are fans of the team. But anyway, what do you think? Well, look,

I mean, number of followers is an indication of just exactly what it is. number of followers. I don't think it's a little else. It's certainly not intelligence. I mean, there's a lot of idiots who have a lot of followers on social media.

I don't think he's an idiot, Tommy. He's not an idiot. Well, he's a fraud. Well, that's different. He's a year ago, he's a year ago almost to the day. Yeah. This is the guy who said, I've happened some really great conversations with this ownership group. with Josh Harris, and having an opportunity to come in on that ownership group,

I'm head over heels excited about that process. That was never happening. You know, he's a self-serving fraud. Well, we know that. But he's not dumb. He's very intelligent. Okay, well, I don't know how intelligent it is because he's not very self-aware. There's a lack of self-awareness.

True. I'm saying innate intelligence. Okay. Okay. You know, I mean, and he's far more, thinks he's far more important than he is. He may have 2.2 million followers, but he has no influence. He got kicked off his TV gig.

Well, you know, I mean, he wasn't, right. He wasn't, you know, the Washington ownership group didn't have anything to do with him. I mean, he's a voice. out there with a lot of people willing to click on what he says. That's all. Yeah. Look, there's, I mentioned this yesterday. What's reflected in his first poll, and if you just read through, you know, the responses to the questions that he asked, I mean, this is why the gold pants thing is just so laughable. Like, it doesn't matter. Like, what people want overwhelmingly, is to go back to the old name.

But that's not an option. Okay? Our fan base past and present, those who aren't as passionate about the team anymore for a number of reasons, including the name, and those that still are. The preference, the overwhelming preference, would be to go back to the old name.

But it's not, I'm telling you people, it's not an option. Mitch Rails told you that that ship had sailed. And I, even though I would love the old name to come back, and I think a lot of the reasons that it's not here are the, I feel the same way many of you do, that it's just, it's silly, that it's not, you know, part of the continuing brand. But you're not going to invite controversy. You're not going to invite, by the way, TV networks and sponsors of the league to push back on the league with the name. already gone. It's not coming back. But what this and every other poll, including the ones that we've done on social media and the post poll and the survey that I referenced yesterday,

it all reflects to me that this is such a challenge to get right because the easy answer isn't an option. And every other answer, every other solution, has. downsides. They have upsides, too. They have downsides. I do think there's one way to look at it, though, and that is that everybody hates what it is now. For whatever reason that you hate it, you don't like the name, you hate the uniforms, you hate the fact that it was a Snyder-era creation, which I'm just going to tell you guys again, I don't think Snyder had anything to do with this. Seriously, I think he had checked out. This is a Will Missilebrook Jason Wright production, including the rollout of it, you know, on February 2nd, 2022.

I think the answer that would apply to almost any question that's asked internally about this is, look, the answer is not easy, but the answer isn't continuing with this. We've got to come up with something because this. isn't the answer. This is not what any... People don't want the name. They certainly don't want the look and the feel of what was created because it seems so different.

And yeah, winning's important. We get it. Stadium's important. So is this. And if they just... You know what? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, you know, this ownership group

of the people that I know, and you know them probably better than me, But of the people that I know of, these are very smart guys, okay? And not self-destructive, like the previous owner. I mean, the previous owner may have been smart, obviously, but he was a self-destructive. And I'm not going to know. These are not self-destructive people, you know, and they are smart.

So I'm hoping. I think that this group can come up with the least, with the most palatable, answer to this. What I'm hoping is that they don't, and I know they will, I'm sure they have, and they're doing it probably right now, engage with an outside agency to research and to come up with a new name. Okay. I know that's what everyone does, and that's what they'll do, but I can't believe that this ownership group can't meet a couple of times in rooms and brainstorm and come up with something that would somehow connect in some way to the fan base. Yeah, I mean, I've thought.

It's going to be hard. You're right. I acknowledge that. But these guys are smart. I know. But I don't know how much smart has to do with it at this point. It's a real, it's whatever they can. come up with if it's not the old name. And by the way, the old name would be polarizing too,

maybe outside of this market, but that would be a problem for the league, which is why it's not going to happen. But anything they come up with, no matter how smart they are, they're going to be people that push back on it. I just think at this point, though, what they have now and what was created just is not. You can talk about, well, you know, if they win the Super Bowl or if they or if they're a contender, all that will change. Look, you can't rely. Winning is the number one thing. It's the thing that should be most important in terms of the focus of the organization.

I don't think any reasonable person would dispute that. But you can't count on that to carry the day because it's really hard to win in the NFL too. You've got to fix the other thing in the process of trying to win because if you're you don't win, what are you going to say? Well, we didn't do anything else to generate increased revenue, increased, you know, interest in the team. Like, they got to, they got to do both. I mean, they're in it, acquiring this team in the current condition that it was in, it was a total tear down. Everything, everything needs to be, to be refurbished. And we'll see if they can pull it off. Look, my preference has been, let's go with Washington, let's get the old

uniforms back, would love to get the old logo back. 100% would love to get the old logo back. I don't know if that's going to happen. It probably won't happen. You know, there's an A.J. Perez front office sports, this report this morning, that the family of Walter Blackie Wetzel is going to be in attendance for the home opener against the. Giants on September 15th when a plaque acknowledging Wetzel will be unveiled at Commander's Field. A commander's spokesperson said conversations with the Wetzel family are progressing well, but they, you know, aren't confirming details. We'll see if front office sports has this right. But, but, you know, a lot of people would push back on that. And I'll tell you who would

push back on just Washington, because I've heard from some of these people every time I bring it up is branding people. You know, branding and marketing people say, no, you've got to have a plural nickname. That's the best path. That makes sense to me. I agree with that. It makes sense to me, but this is a very unique situation. And if they can't go back to something with Native American imagery like the Warriors, I don't know that they'll get it right. The Warriors, I think, would absolutely be pleasing to a lot of people, bringing back the old uniforms, perhaps bringing back the old logo or something close to it. But it's just, it's, this was tough for even the people that knew nothing about this franchise, Jason Wright and Will Missillbrook, it was, you can't,

I mean, you can crush them for the rollout of it. But they were never, even if you had people that really understood the organization and the history of the organization. It was going to be a tough nut to crack with that first go-round. Well, tell me why, again, it can't be warriors. I don't know why it can't be now. I know that Dan and the higher-ups in the organization, from what I knew a few years back, and for several years. They always had, in the event, that something actually happened where they had to part with the name, that Warriors was the preference, and that they would go to Warriors and they would keep everything consistent, and that they had, you know, everything marked and everything, you know,

buttoned up in terms of trademarks, et cetera. And I don't know how that works when you've got, you know, the Golden State Warriors as an example of a team in professional sports that uses that name. But then they let something lapse related to the mark. And they ended up losing it to something else or somebody else. And then it was going to be a massive expense to get back into the position that they were in for many years of kind of holding on to this, you know, what they thought was a plan B. That's a massive expense that they may have to pay. I would be okay with Warriors.

Just bring back everything that made the team look the way it was. The most acceptable substitute. Okay. Lots of name talk. For those of you that are going to send some sort of note to say, all you do is talk about the name, you would actually be right this week because we've done a lot of name talk this week. As far as this report from front office sports goes,

I don't know if that satisfies the Wetzel family. I don't know if that's going to satisfy the senator from Montana. What's his name again, Daines? I think it is. As far as that's concerned, I don't know if that helps the most important thing, which is the RFK site bill getting through the Senate. You still have what Tommy first reported on the Chris Van Hollen situation.

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And things like that. And in Shelley's, at Shelley's back room, the great cigar bar at 1331 F Street, Northwest, in Washington, that would be a great place to watch these things. Okay, because Shelley's is an international location. As international patrons come from all over. the world at various times to stop at Shelly's and have a smoke. So Shelly's being with an international flavor, which certainly, you know, on one of their eight big, high-definition TVs throughout the bar would certainly have, you know, the soccer on, the Wimbledon on.

But here's the thing, and this is what you, in a lot of bars in D.C., you won't see. They'll have the nationals on, too, okay? but they're an American bar as well. And they won't give up on baseball. I used to argue with Stan Kasten about this. I say, you know, Stan, there's a bar eight blocks away from Nationals Park. You walk in on any night, there's not up there, the Nationals are never on TV. You've got to change that.

You know, well, you don't have to worry about change that at Shelly's because the Nationals will be on Sunday, along with Wimbledon, along with the soccer, because it's still, they recognize their roots. They recognize their foundation. And their foundation are, A, the local teams in Washington, and B, baseball in the summer. And what better place to enjoy that than Shelley's back room while you're smoking, one of the best cigars from a great collection, the best cigars you can find in D.C. You can find out more by going to shelley's backroom.com. You know what I would ask them to turn on tonight if I were at Shelly's?

I would ask them to turn on the NBA Las Vegas Summer League. Because tonight you get the Brony James debut for the Lakers at 730 on ESPN. And then Tommy, the much anticipated debut of SAR versus. versus Rissachet, the number one and the number two picks, the Hawks and the Wizards at 930 on ESPN. Are you going to watch any of the NBA Summer League? Yeah, I am going to watch it. Yeah, sure.

So that would laugh you out of the bar. I am. If you did that. They would? Let me just point out. They'd laugh you out at a bar. Oh, come on. They would.

I mean, tonight it's going to be nationals and Orioles. Mm, right. You got the Nats playing. playing the Brewers. Who are the Orioles playing this weekend? Final weekend before the All-Starback. You don't know? It's a meat and potatoes night for sports. There's no Las Vegas Summer League. Come on. I'm going to watch some of it. Look, I'm not a big NBA summer league guy at all. Because it doesn't tell you anything. No. I can speak to this personal experience, haven't been to a summer league game.

year they drafted Petrov. Right. Okay. Yeah, you went. I remember that. I took him play and came away saying, wow, this guy is going to be a star. So Summer League doesn't tell you anything except that guys can dribble.

Yeah. Look, I want to watch tonight just to see what Tsar looks like. Kulabali, by the way, made the French, you know, team for the Olympics. And it is one of the big storylines of night one out in Vegas. And, you know, Tommy, that summer league 15 years ago, which probably was Peshraf, not 15 years ago, but the NBA's done a really good job, the NFL's done the best, of creating a year-long interest in the sport. Now, you know, I think a lot of you listening would say,

Not really. I don't watch even the regular season. I barely watch the playoffs. So you're not going to get me to watch the Summer League. But basketball fans and NBA fans, they're into the Summer League. And it's been that way. It's been growing for years now. But I would say 10, 15 years ago, it was a nothing burger. And now, you know, these games get televised. They get audiences for these games. And yeah, we'll get a chance to see Alex Sard tonight. kind of, I think of crowds. I don't know if anyone's watching them on TV. Look, it's not a bad place to have a Summer League, Las Vegas.

You know, but if I were still there rather than returning on Tuesday, if I were still there, I think if you gave me the choice of hanging around the casino and the hotel or going to the Thomas and Max Center to watch Summer League NBA, I would stay put. you would not get me to the Thomas and Mac Center. But I know a lot of people that love going to it. You know, I don't think they play at the Thomas and Max Center. They don't? Where do they play?

I think it's another name of a different building, or they change the name, or it's a different building. Okay. I don't think it's... Where else would they play? I saw a lot of fights at the Thomas and... They're not playing at the Sphere. They're not playing at the, you know, the Raiders Stadium.

Where else would they play? There's no basketball arena there is it? Huh? I'm looking it up right now. Okay. In the meantime, Jaden Daniels won the SB for the best college football, the best college athlete of 2024. I think, you know, when we read the nominees, it seemed like it would be obvious that he would win it. Yeah, Jaden Daniels can now add to his Heisman trophy in his trophy case. An S.B. Award for the best male collegiate athlete.

It was between him, Zach Eadie, some soccer player from Clemson, and the lacrosse player, Kavanaugh from Notre Dame. And I think when I read the nominees, I'm like, this should be a Jaden Daniels win, and it was. So congratulations to him. I did want to ask you about this. You know what? I think you're right. What?

According to Wikipedia, from what I can see, I'm mistaken. I think they play at the, they still play the Thomas and Max Center. Okay. Yeah, I was going to say, is there another basketball arena in Vegas, you know, big enough to hold, you know, they get really good crowds for that, I'm pretty sure. Oh, I wanted to mention one other quick thing. Kevin Durant was on this podcast called Up and Adams. It's Kay Adams. She's lovely, by the way.

She used to be on the NFL network, and she had Durant on. And Durant compared Jaden Daniels to himself saying he's the KD of the NFL. And what he meant was that Jaden Daniels has like the same build. you know as Kevin Duran. He's not as tall. But it's like that skinny athlete, you know, that skinny framed athlete. And you're like, it just looks different. And he's right.

Because every time you watch Duran, you're like, man, he's tall and skinny. And with Jaden Daniels, he's tall and skinny for an NFL quarterback. But he was talking about Jaden Daniels on this podcast and how excited he was to watch Jaden Daniels. He became a big fan and said that he was. He talked to Jaden Daniels a few times. So I wanted to end with Paul Skeens, the Pittsburgh Pirates' dominant rookie pitcher, who yesterday for the second time had a no-hitter laid into a game and was pulled. Yesterday, they beat the Brewers one to nothing.

Skeen struck out 11 in seven no-hit innings. Through 99 pitches, it was his 11th Major League start. his ERA is 1.90. Of the 99 pitches, 65 were called strikes, and they pulled them and did not let him continue into the 8th with a no-no going. This happened earlier in the season when he pitched six no-hit innings against the Cubs back in May and got pulled in that game. I know a lot of old timers hate this. It's like, you kidding me? I mean, if the guy was at 130 pitches, he would have stayed in there. But what was your reaction to this guy? First of all, overall, the rookie season he's having is just incredible. But should they have, you know, pulled him on pitch

count? Or the manager actually said it wasn't pitch count related. It was just that he appeared to be tiring and he admitted that he was tiring. Oh, again, that could have something to do with it. At this stage, look, I was disgusted. I've been discussed that ever since they declared six innings a quality start, and you know, you rarely see a complete game anymore. So I'm past the point of being disgusted. And I recognize it's a different era now and different.

And I recognize how paranoid teams are, given the fact. that we saw right here in Washington, how delicate a tremendous arm like Steven Strasberg's could be. But they've got no answers to what works as to how to protect it. Nobody really knows what the answers are, so everyone's still always fishing for answers. But if this is what the pirates feel like they need to protect this stud of a pitcher who's now the starting pitcher in the National League All-Star Game Tuesday night, He is the starter? Yes, he's been named the starter.

And that's great for baseball. And, you know, if you're a Nats fan, this is driving you crazy. I mean, if baseball did not go to the lottery system and had just gone the worst record last year, the Nats would have had the number one pick, not the Pirates, and they would have drafted this kid. Now, the Nats had the number two pick. They drafted Dylan Cruz.

no slouch, but like I said, starting pitchers are harder to come by. And this guy is just off the charts. So I don't have a big problem with it anymore because I've resigned myself that pitchers. Nobody knows how to handle pitchers anymore. Nobody knows. Yeah. They certainly all tend to, you know, err on the side of caution. I mean, that's been the case now for a decade, right?

And yesterday's incredibly cautionary. Like, the guy had thrown, hold on, where is it? By the way, the Pirates as a franchise haven't had a no-hitter since 1997, and that was a combined no-hitter. When you're a fan of a team, and it's like it's been 27 years for a no-hitter, you know, hitter and you're watching the game yesterday, you are getting pumped up. I would imagine that a lot of fans were, you know, up in arms. But he retired his final 16 batters striking out eight of the 16 during that stretch. So, but they said he was tired. Here's something. Paul Skeens right now has 89 strikeouts with a 1.90 ERA.

The most punchouts with a sub 2.00 ERA through 11 starts since ERA became an official stat. Do you know what year? The ERA became an official stat, Tommy? No, I don't. 1913. The, he has passed Fernando in 1981 and Hersheiser in 84 with the 89 strikeouts. with a sub 2.00 ERA.

God, man, that Fernando rookie season in 81, it was Fernando mania throughout the country, wasn't it? I know. It's a bad memory for me. Why? Because, well, because Tom Seaver, who was then pitching for the Reds, had a better season and should have won the Cy Young that year. But it was all Fernando mania, and everyone got caught up in it.

And Fernando, who was worthy of the award? But Siever was more worthy that year and should have won it. Look, I cringe when I read about schemes because, you know, at the back of my mind, I'm sitting there thinking, well, when's the Tommy John surgery going to come? Yeah. When's going to come up. Strassburg, after they drafted Strassburg, a week later, I wrote the story. Let's get the Tommy John surgery out of the way now.

Yeah, I remember that. That's a year before you had it. Yeah. Real quickly, as we get ready to wrap up the show, I thought you would get a kick out of this. So prize picks, which I have been suggesting for all of you, if you want to have some fun watching games, we know football season doesn't start for another six, seven weeks college football. But if you are going to be into the soccer on Sunday, download the prize picks app. It's an easy and exciting way to play DFS. It's the largest daily fantasy sports platform in North America.

You just pick more than or less than on between two and up to six players with their stat projections with odds. And Tommy, here are some of the numbers, the prize picks numbers, for the Euro and the Copa America final. And I thought you would get a kick out of this. Harry Kane, who plays for England, and he will play in the Euro final against Spain, the more than less than number for shots in the game for Harry Kane, I think he's their best player, is two. That pretty much sums up soccer right there. I'm going to go less than two shots for Harry Kane.

And then here's another more than or less than at prize picks. Messi passes attempted. Here's where you get up to some sizable numbers. 31 and a half is the number of pass attempts. I'm going to go more on that. That's my prize picks weekend selection. Harry Kane, less than two shots in the Euro final. And Messi more than 31.5 passes attempted pays three to one.

You can do the math on that. $10, page of 30, 20, page you 60, $100,000, pay you $300. Download the prize picks app. Use My Code Sheen, S-H-E-E-H-A-N, for a first deposit match of up to $100. That is the prize-picks app. Use my code Sheen for a first deposit match of up to $100. Prize picks, pick more, pick less. It's that easy.

So now I'm invested in the Euro final and the Copa America final, Tommy, with a Harry Kane messy, you know, two-stat player DFS play. There you go. Two shots is the over-under on his shots for Sunday. What are you going to do this weekend now that you're back in town? Actually, nothing. Nothing. You're not doing any.

Tomorrow, tomorrow morning, if the weather permits, I've never seen this, but in Frederick, they have these, every year they have a high, high-wheel bike racing. Remember the old-style bikes with a real tall one-wheel high up? Of course. Yeah. Yes. I remember. Apparently people still ride these things for fun and pleasure. and every year

Frederick has a race around the streets of downtown with people riding these bikes and I've never seen it so we're playing on going there tomorrow morning and then tomorrow night tomorrow afternoon at 5 o'clock

I'm going to the D.C. Grays game at the Prince George's Community College Feast. That's my Saturday and Sunday go to the pool. Go to the pool on Sunday. I had an ulterior moment. of and asking you about your weekend plans.

I just thought you might accidentally disclose that you were going to be in my neighborhood, that that was a possibility. And if that was possible, I was going to trap you into doing something with us. But you didn't share that with me. I wanted to take Tommy just a quick minute or two to congratulate Alex Hoffman. Alex is a friend. Alex is the assistant pro works for Steve. Delmar and the great staff over Columbia

and Chevy Chase. I've gotten to know Alex over the last couple of years. Alex just won the Maryland Open, which is a huge amateur golf event in the state. It took six sudden death playoff holes to prevail

with five players in the sudden death playoff, but four under got him into the playoff and he won it. Look, this is an event that's produced winners like Denny McCarthy, who has gone on to become a staple on the PGA tour. But really excited for Alex.

Alex played with Cooley, Cooley's buddy, Mike McGuire and I a few weeks ago. And we had a great time with Alex. He's a huge fan of the football team, always has been, was a big fan of Cooley's. So we got him out there the day Cooley was in town and played with me. Actually, Cooley played a couple of days with me when he was in town. Alex shot a cool 73, I think, that day. missed a couple of putts that should have put him, you know, somewhere under 70 that day, because he hit the ball so well.

He's so good. It's always fun to play with, like, great golfers. He's a plus three or a plus four, whatever he is. For me, that means I'm pretty much getting a shot on every single hole, which is very helpful in playing with somebody like Alex. But I know a lot of people, including yours truly, who are very excited. for Alex and his win. It was played at Talbot Country Club down in Easton, a great golf course, but it hadn't been held there since 1975. The last time it was held there, Marty West,

who's the greatest amateur player in the history of this area and is also a member at Columbia. He won it. Marty won the Maryland Open many times. He won a lot of the amateur events many times. But again, Alex, congrats. Can't wait to hear the details on the six-hole sudden-death playoff. Switching subjects, Tommy. Somebody who I know, who I trust, told me that Beverly Hills Cop 3 is 100% worth watching. That it is much better done than you could have imagined. Had you heard that?

Have you watched it? Are you considering it? No, I've not. I'm very skeptical of that. I am too. I don't see how they can tell how they can squeeze any more out of that franchise. Do you know what I... I've kind of tired of Eddie Murphy for a long time.

Really? Why? Well, because he made such a piece of garbage. Yeah, he did. So many garbage. He did. He did. God.

Do you know that, and I remember... hearing about this, and I'm wondering if you remember this to be true or not, that Beverly Hills Cop won, which was a really good movie and Eddie Murphy in his prime, you know, off of trading places, off of 48 hours, etc. This is Eddie Murphy, you know, as a massive superstar, right? 1984, 1985. But Beverly Hills Cop was the first of the first. The first of first movie that combined drama and comedy. Do you think that's true or not? To successfully combine drama and comedy.

And when I say drama, like... I saw a movie called The Hot Rock in 1972 with Robert Redford and George Siegel. It was a comedy drama, and it was good. And it was good. That's been going on. I think that's ridiculous. Okay. Good job today.

I'm glad you're back. Could have gotten back more efficiently, but you were wound up a little bit up there in Burlington. I don't think you're going back to Burlington anytime soon. No. I don't believe so. Unless they, you know, send out some people from the mayor's office to arrest me for dissing their sketchy town. All right.

See you. I'm back on Monday.