The Kevin Sheehan Show - Washington-Giants Upon Further Review

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

Kevin and Thom today with an "interesting" and "informative" show which includes but is not limited to an eclectic mix of topics like.....migraine headaches, teacher-student affairs, Thom nearly getting thrown out of Fed Ex/Northwest Field on Sunday, Kevin's "Upon Further Review" of the Commanders-Giants game, a look back at the rest of the NFL's Week 1 games, and Thom remembering Davey Johnson. For all your football betting needs: DCRELOAD at MyBookie for a 50% Deposit Match Want to spruce up your lawn? FastGrowingTrees.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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86690 Nation, windownation.com. If you need new windows, lots on the game Sunday. I've got an upon further review, some things to correct from my game take that I put out on Sunday. and in some other things that I found interesting after going back and watching the old 22, which I did. I did not do a show yesterday because literally a couple of hours after the radio show when I was going to do another podcast,

I got a migraine. I get migraines, Tommy. You don't get migraines, right? We've talked about this before. Yeah, I don't get migraines. I don't even get headaches. You don't get headaches at all? No. I used to get hangovers when I used to drink a lot.

And when I was younger, like real young, like 10, 11, 12, 13. I used to get headaches and stomach aches all the time. But I haven't had a headache or stomachate in decades. You want to hear something funny, and I think I've told this story before. Many years ago, I was doing the show with Rigo. And remember the show that I did with John and with Gary Braun. It was televised on Masson. You know, we had the cameras in the studio and they televised that radio show on Masson.

So I got an email one day from a woman who said, you probably don't know me or remember me, I think is what she said. And I'm not even sure I'm reaching out to the correct Kevin Sheehan. but if you went to Woodacre's elementary school in the 70s, I think I was your teacher. And it was signed Lorraine Kemp and Mrs. Kemp was my first grade teacher. So I immediately got back to her. As it turns out, you know, we connected. We ended up getting lunch.

My mother came with me. My sister came with me because she taught my sister as well. my mother was a room mother. You know how you in elementary school back then. I don't know if they do it anymore, but you have like room mothers that helped the teacher with various things. Two things. One, it was her very first class.

She was 22 years old. I mean, it is funny when you think about your teachers from elementary school and even, you know, middle school or high school, how young they actually are. But the thing she said to me, when we had lunch, she said, I remember you used to get these really bad headaches. And I said, wow, that's so interesting because clearly they were migraines because I have had migraines. I get migraines, I don't know, half dozen times a year, something like that. but it wasn't diagnosed that way when I was in elementary school. You know, part of it was probably that, you know, back then I lived in a house where there were

ash trays in every room and everybody was a smoker. You know, I think a lot of people, you know, my age, your age, did you grow up in a house with smokers? Well, my dad. Yeah. Smoked cigars. Nobody else smokes. Cigars. Nobody else smoked. My mom and dad both smoked cigarettes. And then we'd go to other houses and there were already, always cigarettes everywhere. And it's funny because for many years, I thought, I think it was the cigarette smoke that I used to get headaches from. But I actually got migraines. And she mentioned that. She said, I remember that. And I said, wow. It was clearly I was having migraines, even though we just call them headaches or whatever. But, yeah. Let me ask you a question.

Yeah. Was she hot? Was she hot? Yes. I'm going to say yes because I think she might still listen with her husband because they're huge Skins fans. Of course, she was cute. But I mean, I was a first grader. I know. Yeah. Okay. So you were six and she was probably 22. I was six or seven and she was like 22. Yeah. I mean, when you're six or seven in first grade, I don't know. Do you have crushes on your teachers? I'll tell you this, I bet you a lot of kids had a crush on Mrs. Kemp.

Because she was, and she was such a nice teacher, too. But, um... So let's say you did this when you were 40, she would have been 56. But, you know, I mean, that's not out of the realm of possibility. Okay, well, right. But, but anyway, the reason I didn't get a possibility, podcast out yesterday is I ended up, I mean, I had a doozy yesterday. I went home. I took medicine. I fell asleep. I didn't wake up until literally right before Monday night football was getting ready to

kick off. And I wasn't going to come in and do a podcast at that point. I used to have crushes on my teachers growing up. Well, I can tell you the first teacher I had a crush on. Who was your, who was the first teacher you had a crush on? Well, you know, actually, I had crushes on teachers in junior high because in elementary school we had nuns and brothers. Yeah, you went to Catholic school. I got crushed by them. I didn't have crushes on them. Right.

You know, but I can remember in junior high. In junior high, we had an English teacher named Miss Hemerley. I remember she was in a terrible car accident. I used to go to the hospital and visit her all the time. Oh, my God. Was it a bad? Was she okay? Well, she came out of it okay.

But Ms. Hemerly, everybody had a crush on her. That was like maybe seventh grade, probably. Everybody had a crush on Mrs. Jones, who was my fourth grade teacher at Woodacre's Elementary School. By the way, speaking of that, I think I mentioned this to you, but it was, I continue to get emails from this person. I'm not going to mention it because, to be honest with you, it's a bit annoying, and I don't want to encourage it. Maybe I'm doing that right now. But this person insists that they went to elementary school with me and to junior high school with me. We called it junior high school back then. It was middle school. Although junior high for me was not six, seven, eight, it was seven, eight, nine. High school

for me in Bethesda started in 10th grade. But this person continues to insist that I went to a different elementary school and a different junior high school with him. And I've told him multiple times now over a couple of years, I'm sorry, but I did not go to those schools. They are in the same general area of Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Potomac, Kensington, the areas that I'm very familiar with in high schools and junior high and elementary schools, but I did not go to that school. But Mrs. Jones' fourth grade was she was definitely a looker. And then in high school, Miss Hudak was a chemistry teacher. God, she was cute.

And then our favorite teacher was Ms. Egan, who was also a teacher at our middle school. And then she ended up teaching at her high school. But yeah, I mean... Did you ever have in high school, did you have any students who have... had affairs with teachers? Without naming names. Without naming names, we're pretty sure that there was at least one relationship, that we will always sort of, when we're all together, harken back to and say,

you know, this guy and this teacher definitely hooked up. Yes. You know, it's so funny. And we had one that was common. knowledge our senior year. And it was, it was bad because this kid, this boy, it was a boy with a female teacher, which is, you know, let's face it, that may be a law and order episode, but it's every guy's fantasy when you're in high school.

Right. Okay. Right. So, but, but he was sleeping, he played in a sport. He was sleeping with the coach's wife, who was also a teacher. Oh, my. My God. That is scandalous.

Yes. It was wild. Wait. So he played for the coach? Yes. And then was also sleeping with the coach's wife? Yes. And we're not talking ping pong here, but this wasn't a ping pong sport.

Right. Wasn't Donna's husband a coach? Wasn't Donna's husband a coach? Because she's your favorite. He was a little league baseball. Coach. Little League Baseball coach. We were talking. Or maybe he was in high school. He might have been in high school. Yeah, because Michael went to one of the games because he was going to sort of check him out and approach him.

Yes. That's unbelievable. So did the coach ever find out? Everybody found out at some point. Nobody got hurt as far as I know. I mean, physically hurt. But, I mean, this was. all throughout town, it became common knowledge. Well, I'll tell you this. As a grown-up, there are stories about teachers and moms. That has happened a couple of times where a teacher has connected with a mom.

You know, ironically, I don't think I have a story of a father, you know, getting together with a female teacher that I can think of, although there have been a couple of the teachers that have taught my boys that were certainly, um, that were certain, that would have been interesting to a lot of the fathers for sure. And we're interesting to a lot of the fathers.

But I do know of female, uh, male teachers who connected and hooked up with mothers and it turned out to be a not good situation at all. Um, I would thank you. that that's the typical situation.

Getting back to teacher-student, I would think that the typical is male teacher, female student. So this was particularly on you. Yes. And the one that I... Yeah, the one that I mentioned is a female teacher and a guy as well.

I can't remember any male teachers and female student situations. I can't remember. Actually, not true. I can remember one. He wasn't actually a teacher. He was a coach. He was a coach. Okay. Okay. All right.

So. Yeah, this is the sorted portion of the podcast. Yeah. I don't know if any of what we talked about has anything to do with the first game of the season, but we have a game to talk about. But I did want to mention the plan was to do a show yesterday, and I never got to. it done, my apologies. But I get to do it with you. And the stuff that I had planned to do yesterday, I'm going to do in the second segment of the show. And that is some of the stuff that I kind of want to go back and talk about from the game. But you have not had a chance to weigh in on the game. For those that don't know, I did put out a podcast about a 45 to 50 minute show following the game

on Sunday, which has my entire game take. The good, the bad, you know, what I liked, what I didn't like anymore. And then Juan Martin came on with me as well. Yes. So what did you think? You were there? You know, it was boringly impressive. Okay. It really was. I mean, you know, look, I mean, the theme of the day was sloppy, you know, because everybody who got up to talk or spoke after the game,

the word sloppy usually came into the conversation for the way Washington played. But they felt pretty good about how poorly they played in some aspects and yet how much they dominated at the same time. I mean, defensively, it was a startling performance. but both sides of the ball on the offensive and the defensive line most of the battles Washington won

you know and it was I mean defensively it was a real eye-opener and if this is their defense moving forward then you know the hype train has left the station yeah I mean I think that the reactions and I've read through a lot of your emails

and tweets off of the show on Sunday and then the radio show yesterday and today. You know, it was really very sloppy. I mean, the two big takeaways haven't changed for me. The defense was dominant and at the same time, you know, they got a lot to fix and clean up because a lot of the things they did Sunday wouldn't have worked more likely than not against a better team. And I think, you know, that's the part we will.

We'll learn. We'll learn whether or not, you know, a lot of things. We'll learn whether or not what we watched defensively on Sunday was actually the real deal. We'll learn whether or not, you know, the Giants are what we think they are offensively, which isn't very good, but, you know, who knows. Although I think I do know that one. They are considered good, they are considered a good defensive team. Yes, the Giants are a good defensive team. I think they should be a good defensive team. But when you are that inept offensively, And you can't stay on the field. They did stay on the field for that one drive in the first half. It was a long drive, too. But when you've got no hope of scoring points, it's tough on a defense over 60 minutes. And I really felt like, you know, it was the penalties. It was drop passes.

You know, a lot of things kept Washington from really opening up a can of whoop, you know what, score-wise, on the Giants. I mean, it's 14 to 6 in the fourth quarter. I don't know how you felt sitting in the press box, but watching the game on television, there's no chance I ever felt for a moment that the game was in jeopardy. Like, I just didn't think there was a chance that the Giants could win the game. Washington was the superior team,

and they were superior where it matters most, at the line of scrimmage and at quarterback. Our quarterback's really good. their quarterback is now a backup quarterback in the NFL. Russell Wilson is. Yes. And so I never had any doubt. It was a pretty good day for the home team, I'd say.

You know, to basically, because what they did show, if there were questions about the defense, look, it's only one game. Like you said, let's see how they perform against a much stronger offensive performance. team, but they dominated. I mean, you know, the Giants had 231 total yards of offense. Yeah, just 90 through, you know, the latter portions of the third quarter. Yeah, it was dominant defensively.

I mean, you saw defensive line performances from Kinlaw and the other, some of the other new guys that really had to make you feel good moving forward. Yeah, I think one of the things I feel really good about, you know, understanding what, you know, I will say and repeat probably to the point of some of you getting nauseous, week one is a head fake, week one's fools gold, or early in the season, it's really hard to figure anything out. And by the way, this upcoming weekend will look totally different in at least a dozen spots across the league than it looked. like in week one. It just happens that way. But I do feel confident that they've, A, gotten bigger and better on defense. And I think they've gotten faster and longer on defense. And how that plays out with the scheme and with the opponents, I don't know. I mean, it's very possible that they got better talent-wise on defense, but still don't end up being a great defense.

And we look back and say, well, yeah, the Giants with Russell Wilson in particular really were bad. But Kinlaw, you know, you forget if you watched him as a pro, because coming out, Kinlaw was not just big, but considered to be very athletic. and he really looked super athletic and super versatile. We know that Duran Payne is that. We just need the consistent performance from pain. Pain is everybody around the league knows what Duran Payne is. He is an absolute physical, freakish athlete for that position.

Wise is tall, he's long. Goldman is. is an absolute moose inside, and they played him at nose tackle and at defensive tackle a lot. And then you go to the back, you know, and by the way, all these guys are bigger than, say, John Allen, you know, was. And then you go to the back and there's no Benjamin St. Juice. There's, you know, there's a guy like Trey Amos who has a little bit more poise, even as a young player. You've got Will Harris who replaced Jeremy Chin. he's every bit the tackler, if not better.

They tackled exceptionally well in the opener, something that on the back end last year, they did not do at times very well. So I kind of feel like I think I'm watching a different group personnel-wise, and I think it's better after one game. That doesn't mean it'll be cohesive. It doesn't mean it'll be well-coached and schemed up the proper way. But I think there's a chance

that it's going to be better. And then offensively, something I felt really confident about as long as he stayed healthy, Debo Samuel's going to be a tremendous addition to that offense as an all-around weapon. This guy has, at his best, he's been one of the best. And if he is that this year for them, with Kingsbury, with the best quarterback he's played, with Terry, with Ertz, with Echler, with maybe another running back like Bill Cros. Merritt. They're going to be, you know, it wasn't super impressive on Sunday because it was a lot of mistakes on Sunday, but I still think offensively they've got a chance to be even better and maybe much better than they were even last year. And I think Debo's going to be a big part of that.

And by the way, Tunsell was impressive and the O line was impressive against a good defensive front. So I feel good about all of that. How, you know, how it plays out against a much better team in Green Bay tomorrow night. And then, you know, the Chargers in a few weeks and Philly twice late in the year and Kansas City on the road. And, you know, the teams that they'll have to go up against, that's what makes, you know, following in NFL team over 17 weeks fun. But they should be better talent-wise. They certainly appear to be on defense and up front on offense and with Debo. Yes. Yes, I would agree with that. And, I mean, to me, Kroski Merritt is the shining light right now. He's not the son. Okay. Dane Daniels is the son. But this young kid at running back, if you're trying to defend, trying to game plan for the commanders. And, you know, last year, really,

in essence, all they had to do was try to stop Jane. Really? And that was really... And Terry, and Earths ended up being a factor. Oh, I know that. I know that. But, but, put, again, but, you know, if you contain the quarterback, he's not getting those guys to ball. Right. Okay. But now, I mean, if you're back, if you're a linebacker back there,

and everyone's going to be pointing to Michael Parsons this Thursday night, you can't just fixate on Jane Daniels when you've got Depot back there, when you've got Kroski Merritt back there, who's far more explosive than anything we've seen back there in a long time. You know, I was trying to think when we saw an explosive back like that. I went back to Chris Thompson. And, you know, those days. So, I mean, I think the offense, if Debo stays healthy,

it's just going to be fabulous, Kevin. I think it's going to be better than we saw last year. Look, if Bill, you know, Kroski Merritt, if Bill ends up being the real deal, and there's a lot to like about him, I mean, he's got great vision, he's got good feed, he's got good burst, he's got, you know, decent speed for sure.

Oh, it's, I mean, it'll be a very difficult offense to check. Yeah. I think the better comp for Chris Thompson is Austin Echler, because I think Echler is still a big time part of this offense. And I think, you know, his versatility and I love Echler. I mean, I loved him with the Chargers. I loved him last year. He just missed a lot of time. I still think they are going to feature Echler a lot more than Kroski Merit over the, at least the early portion of the season.

And it will be interesting to see if Rodriguez is up tomorrow night, or Thursday night. I think the reason he was down was probably because they had to bring up Chris Moore. They wanted the sixth receiver. But it will be interesting to see if Rodriguez gets more short yardage carries, perhaps. I don't know. I don't think they need it. I want to see more of number 22. I want to see more than 10 carries to see what happens.

By the way, you did see that Jaden was on the injury report yesterday. Did you see that, a wrist injury? Full go on Thursday night, but Quinn just spoke and said something about, they just want to comply with league rules or something, but there's absolutely no concern. I don't really get that. Like, I'd like to know, does he have a wrist injury or not? Like, he's fine to play.

It's not serious. I understand that. But did he injure his wrist in the game? on Sunday. Is your lack, do you have a lack of confidence in their honesty because of the rib injury from last year? I'm getting to tell you right now, you and I have a completely different opinion on that, and I think I'm right.

Actually, I feel very confident I'm right about that, that it was not a broken rib. But, no, that's not why I brought it up. I brought it up because if you put a player on the injury report and you actually list a specific part of the body that was injured, and then you're like, but full participation and full go on Thursday night, it does mean that there's something wrong with his wrist. I don't think anybody asked him directly other than to say, is he, you know, what was it about it? And he just said something about complying with league rules. So he must have banged up his wrist in the game, not serious injury, not going to keep him out of a practice, a full go practice, or anything like that or the game. But, you know, he took some shots on Sunday.

He did expose himself a couple of times where I thought he could have gotten down or could have gotten out of bounds. I'm going to go through one of those plays in the next segment. That's still the number one concern about this team offensively. because he is so critical to wins and losses. And I don't know, maybe he has gotten bigger, maybe he has gotten stronger. And he certainly seems to have that kind of body that takes those hits. But there was an awkward hit in the first quarter of the game.

Yeah. But he's fine, everybody. He's fine. He's totally fine. I want to read this from Daniel J. Daniel J. writes, this was a first for me after all of these years listening to the show. I love it, especially when Tom is on. But I didn't agree with either one of you. I can't believe both of you picked them to get to the Super Bowl. Did Tom actually pick them to win it? Let me just interject there. No, he did not. He picked the Ravens to beat Washington. And I picked the Chiefs. to beat Washington in Super Bowl 60. But Daniel Jay says,

I can't believe both of you picked them to get to the Super Bowl. It's the first time I didn't agree with either one of you. And then he writes, this team's not a Super Bowl contender quite yet. They just don't have the depth or defense. Now, he did write this before the opener after we did our picks last week,

but I saved it because I think the defense certainly, it was much better that they played that way than not played well against the Giants. I can't imagine how good this team could be if they're really good on defense, seriously. And if Kroski-Marit and Debo are the right answers. Yeah. I agree with you. And I thought the offensive line did a good job against a strong Giants defensive line.

Right. And they don't have Sam Cosby either. Yeah, they don't. This from, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. No, go ahead. I'm just saying, I think possibilities right now seem crazy, crazy good. This from Paul, Paul writes, so now we're paying the best receiver on the team, only 17.5 million a year, and the other guy, 30 plus million a year.

Quite a luxury. Already, the idea that Debo is the best receiver on the team. We'll see. We'll see about that. This from Brendan. Brendan writes, hey, Kevin, didn't get a chance to call in and give you my bold prediction. We did that on radio last week. Last week. I say Debo is our wide receiver won by year's end and is an all pro.

He's going to be sensational. Only thing is staying healthy. And he did send this to me right before kickoff on Sunday. Debo's not even technically. I mean, he would be a pro bowl wide receiver. That is true. But I agree with what you're going to say. But he's a weapon.

He's a weapon. He plays a different position than Terry plays. Yes. And, uh, yeah. Terry is not, it's not running that 19-yard touchdown run that Debo did. No. On Sunday. So, Terry has gotten reverse opportunities in his chair.

Oh, I know that. And fly sweeps, in jet sweeps, yeah. But that was different. That was different. And then this changing subjects quickly, this from Alex. This Duke plus two and a half is the most infuriating game of the day. Illinois's got minus four rush yards, early third quarter, and Duke's losing the game. Muffed punt, third and 21 screen for a first down, fourth and five penalty on a punt,

definition of on the right side, but we're losing. Welcome back football. I missed you. Yeah, Duke was one of my smell test picks that did not come in. I had another winning weekend, 6, 4, and 1 over the weekend. And I think if a lot of you had Iowa plus the 3 and a half, which I did, I gave it out as plus 3. you were probably six, seven, three and one on the weekend. But anyway, or seven and four on the weekend.

You would have been seven and four. Yes. By the way, Alex, you forgot to mention Duke turned the ball over five times. So that does not help. But Duke was a good football team offensively. They've got a really good quarterback. And watching that game, which I did, I now understand why. they were only a two and a half three point dog against the number 11 team in the country.

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Well, what? The teacher, student affairs? No, that was real. Yeah. That was where this is, this is, this is commanders football stuff. Okay. Well, I can't wait for this now. We'll get to all of it and more after these words from a few of our sponsors.

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or visit windownation.com. All right, Tommy, I have some things that I want to mention after going back and watching the game again and a lot of it on the All-22, not film breakdown style. That's not what I'm going to do. but I did notice some things that I thought they were interesting. And I've got a list of like six or seven things that I'm going to go through that I think are interesting. Because you've got some interesting stuff to talk about as well, right? Yes, I think so. I think I do.

But I guess you're going to wait for my interesting stuff, and then you'll determine whether or not what you have is interesting comparatively. I have a feeling it will. No, no. No, no, I'm not going to determine if my stuff is interesting comparatively. My stuff is interesting, no matter what's on your list. I don't know. It depends. It depends the context in which you're listening. I mean, if you hear something super interesting for like the next 10 minutes or so, and then you think you're delivering something interesting, but side by side it doesn't look that way,

you may think it's interesting, but the listener may not. Okay, let me just point out, do any of these things on your list involve me or about me? No, they don't. So. Okay, well, the things I have to contribute are all about me. Well, that they usually are. They usually are. Okay.

Do you want, you know what, I bet you want to start with yours first. Why don't you go ahead and give me your, no, no, no. When it comes to what's interesting on this show, it has to start. with something that has to do with you. So go ahead and give me your interesting first, and then I'll give my listeners interesting stuff that has nothing to do with me. Go ahead, start, please. Well, I'll start with the most compelling thing.

I always got thrown out at a stadium on Sunday. You did, really? Yes. How? Yes. Why? Well, you know, where the press box is, and they're the elevator banks there.

Right. There's a platform that's open air. It has a roof on it, but it's open air out in the open. Yes. Okay? And I have been smoking cigars on that platform before games for 15, 16 years. I remember when you did it with Sunny a few times. Yes.

Yes. It's been a ritual. I mean, I've had, I've had, you know, I, you know, dance. Snyder would walk by and see me. You know, Josh Harris has gone by and seen me. You know, it has never been an issue. Okay, other people have gone out there and smoked. That's what it's supposed to be.

A smoking area. Uh-oh. Okay, so I'm smoking my cigar before the game, and this security guy who I've never seen before, you know, with a walkie-talkie and a security badge and dressed like Mr. Security comes up to me and says, you've got to put that out. You can't smoke here. I said, yes, I can. I don't know, you're allowed to smoke here.

He said, no, you're not. He said, this is indoors. I said, no, it's not looking. Do you see any walls around you? It's not indoors? This is wide open. He said, yeah, but there's a roof. I said, look, I've been smoking here for 15 years.

Ask the security guys over there. It's not a problem. They've been watching me for years smoke. So this guy basically said, you've got to put it out, you know, or else you got to leave. and I'm thinking, well, you know, there was a time where I would have said, okay, buddy, I'm leaving, but I did really want to do that. It would have seemed immature. So I put out the cigar.

So later on, the guy who usually is in charge of security at that area says, you're not smoking today. I said, well, this other security guy told me I can't smoke. And he said, you can smoke here. You know, what is he talking about? And then, this is the best part, a SWAT member, a guy dressed in infantry clothing with an automatic rifle strapped on his shoulder. Right.

Says to me, you're not smoking here today? And I said, no, they said, I can't smoke here today. And the guy, he was upset. So he goes over to one of his security guards and he starts complaining. and this guy's got automatic weapons strapped to his shoulder. Well, was the security guard that told you not to smoke? Was he around at that point? No, he wasn't allowed at that point.

He wasn't around at that point. That would have been funny to have seen that. But basically what it's had, this has become a big brouhaha, and now whoever the head of security is at the stadium has to make a decision about this. So I guess I'll know the next home game. Oh, so it's elevated. It's elevated.

Yes. Yes, it's gone to the top. Not to the top. Who made it go to the top? You were the SWAT guy. Well, I think it was the other security people who usually manned that area who were very familiar with me smoking there. I know, so.

Very surprised. Very surprised you complied in the moment. I know. I felt a bit disappointed. Although I tell you what, I felt a little bit of. better about it when the spot guy with the automatic weapon was on my side. Yeah, but

that aside, you're not this would have been a confrontation in years past you would have enjoyed and you acquiesced. I know, I know, I'm mellowed in my years. I'm disappointed.

Well, I'm sorry. Well, that was interesting. I have to say that that was interesting. And now, by the way, let me Let me describe what's upcoming as something other than interesting. Because side by side with that, I don't think this is very interesting. This is going to be informative. How about that?

Okay. What I'm going to deliver here is going to be informative. That's going to be a nice change on the podcast. Let's go for something informative. Let's go for something informative. All right. Okay. So in watching the game back on the All-22, there was one area that I immediately wanted

to check out, and that was defense because this was a good defensive game. And one of the things that we spent a lot of time talking about in the offseason is, you know, how would, you know, they use Javan Kinlaw? How would they use Dietrich-Wise? How would they use Eddie Goldman? Hell, Eddie Goldman was a guy that I think a lot of people had getting cut, you know, before the final 53 cut down. You know, who would be the primary pass rusher? when it was an obvious pass situation. And so the thing that was really striking is just clearly how versatile they think the players they have are.

Because Javon Kinlau and Duran Payne and Eddie Goldman and Wise and Dorrance Armstrong, they lined up all over the place. I mean, I actually was talking about this on radio, and Ben sent me the PFF snaps, by position for for kinlaw Payne and Armstrong in particular. And I mean, they were all over the place. Like, Duran Payne in this game played 45 snaps on the D-line. He played defensive left tackle 23 of those snaps,

left defensive end, 15 of those snaps. He was more of an outside linebacker on four of them, played nose tackle on one. I mean, this is what I kept noticing is that it's like every, you know, series, they've got players lined up in a lot of different positions. So it struck me that Javon Kinlau, Duran Payne, Dorrance Armstrong in particular, and I'll mention him. Eddie Goldman pretty much is a nose tackle or a defensive tackle.

But they feel like, I guarantee you, they feel, bigger and stronger and more athletic and more capable. This offseason, when it came to the defense, was what it should have been and what we talked about during last season and when the season was over, the teams got to become a better run-stopping team. And that was the priority. You know, takeaways and tackling are the big, you know, tackling is a big part of run-stopping.

Takeaways, I think, would be number one on Quin's list. like they got to take the ball away more than they did last year, and they did not take the ball away at all against the Giants in the opener. But they clearly had a priority to fix the run defense. And if Javon Kinlaw ends up being this versatile and this good, because he was good Sunday, the conversation, which I took part in, which is, did they really have to give Javon Kinlaw that much money? it's going to look silly

and Adam Peters is going to look really good. Kinlaw can play outside. He can play inside. Payne can do the same. Dorrance Armstrong, he drops into coverage a lot. Let me just see what the snap count was for him as a linebacker.

Yeah, he took 24. Now, he lined up as a defensive end a few times, lined up as a linebacker like 24 of his 35 snaps. Now let me just tell you that maybe PFF categorizes it as a linebacker. They have some five-man fronts in which they've got guys that look like they're outside linebackers, but really it's a five-man defensive front. But they also have a three-four look where Goldman's a true nose tackle. They just do a lot up front.

And I don't know if that's, I don't want to say that it's impressive because every team does a lot. But I think it's an absolute reflection of how much more they like the players they have. And all of them played well. Dorrance Armstrong was outstanding. Kenlaw was great. Pain was really good. This guy, Jacob Martin, who I bet you most of you who just started,

paying attention when the regular season begins, have no idea who he is. He's number 55. He is more of a linebacker, but he, I thought, looked good and played well. Now, there are a couple of things. Number one, I think their best pass rushing lineup based on what they had out there in pure pass-down situations is Armstrong and pain inside Louvre and von Miller on the outside. All of the third and longs, the absolute drop-dead pass downs and situations. That's what they had with one exception. They had kinline for pain. But they also stunt a lot.

But they didn't blitz much. I think I mentioned that in my post game. And they actually blitzed very little in the game. It didn't seem like they blitzed a lot, and as it turns out, they didn't blitz much at all. But I really like what they have up front. I think they've got their belief, based on what I watched, is they've got a lot of versatility with the guys that they have. And we've seen Duran play defensive end before. We've seen Duran as a nose.

But mostly we've seen Duran Payne as a defensive tackle. But he was all over the place. Ken Law was all over the place. And, you know, if they are also good players, which I think they are, they're going to be hard to deal with. Johnny Newton, I was wrong in my postgame podcast. He didn't play that much, but he played more than I thought. And he actually played pretty well. I think Johnny Newton, they have a lot of hope that he'll become a really good pass rusher.

So that was one of the informational pieces and takeaways from after watching the All-22 is just watch the versatility, watch the number of players that play. I think they feel like they have versatility and depth up front defensively. The next thing I was going to mention is this. It is so obvious watching Bobby Wagner that he is, the coach on the field. We knew this from last year, but that they trust him so much that they refused to take him off the field.

He was in on every defensive snap. That's not unusual for a middle linebacker who was also kind of the extension of the coaching staff on the field. But Bobby Wagner's getting up there and Jordan McGee is a guy that they've raved about, but he just hasn't been healthy enough. Jordan McGee played two snaps on defense.

played a bunch of special team snaps, but they do not trust Wagner not being on the field. They want Bobby Wagner on the field. And given the way he's played in recent years, this idea that we're probably going to see that we're seeing the last of Bobby Wagner, I wouldn't count on that. Yeah, so that was another observation. By the way, I was wrong about Debo Samuel and the clock on his touchdown run. It was at zero when they snapped the ball, but it wasn't a full beat. It should not have been called as a delay a game.

It seemed like it watching it in real time, but yeah, the clock was at zero when they snapped the ball, but usually they allow that beat, that full second after it goes to zero. By the way, the blocking on that play, Tonsil's leading the way. Bates is out there, Bill is out there, McCaffrey gets a seal at the line of scrimmage, the blocking was excellent. Jaden's three sacks. I mentioned on the postgame podcast that I thought at least one of them was definitely on him. So let me go through the three sacks. Second quarter is the first sack.

It's the drive that ends in the Kroski-merit touchdown run. First and 10. they have a bubble screen called to Debo and the Giants jumped it. They read it and Jaden did the right thing, not throwing it. Now, you don't like to see they have three over two on that side. That should be the look for Jaden to throw the bubble screen, which he did. And he didn't throw it, but he went to that play. And for whatever reason, the defenders just did a great job.

So that first sack, you just chalk it up to very. very good defense by the Giants, not on Jaden. The second sack came on the same drive. It was a first in 15 after a Noah Brown off-sides penalty. And Brian Burns just torched Connerley, Jr. Beat him badly and quickly, and Jaden had no chance. So that was not on Jaden. That was on the offensive line, the rookie in particular.

By the way, that set up a second in 19, which was another long down-in-distance that they'd They overcame. They overcame second in 19, second 16, second 21, second and 15 in the game. Then the last sack, also in the first half, because there were three sacks in the first half, it was on Jaden, 100%. He held it too long, and he had options. He could have thrown to Ertz and rhythm.

He could have checked it down to Echler, and he just held it. And this is going to bring me to a comment about Jaden's game. on Sunday that I did not make on the postgame podcast. By the way, he got up immediately after that sack. It was an 11-yard loss. And he immediately patted himself on the chest, looked over to the sideline, and said, my fault, my bad. And it was.

He should have unloaded the ball. Jaden plays with such great confidence, Tommy, that I think he has a bit of what Mahomes has. has at times. And that is he's having so much fun and he's so confident that he's going to be able to make the play work. Or if he doesn't, he'll come back on the next play and make it work. And by the way, he's usually correct that I think there's a bit of nonchalance at times. And I don't, I've said this about Mahomes for the last couple of years, that Mahomes, actually during games, sometimes he looks bored, and he decides to make it more interesting

than it really needs to be by not throwing it where he should throw it. Instead, try to create some fun out of the play and run around a little bit and make an even bigger play. I think Jaden has some of that in him. I think that happened. There's a video of him being chased down by Brian Burns where he's just laughing at Burns as he's trying to catch him. Trust me, I'm not suggesting that Jaden should have less fun or talk less. You know, Burns after the game said he talks too much during the game. I'm not suggesting that he shouldn't play with great joy and with great fun and all of that. It's part of who he is.

But there are some plays where I think Jaden gets a little bit too confident and it leads to almost a little bit too casual. That's all. I'm just going to throw that out there right now. Also, that's basically, is that a red flag? No, but because it's never hurt Mahomes, ever, he has that kind of generational, absurd playmaking ability.

And as a second-year player who hasn't won anything, he shouldn't be, you know, looking for more fun on a play where the, you know, the lesser fun aspect of the play would have worked well too. You know, he took some shots. I mentioned that on Sunday. And some of those shots he's taking are him trying to make a bigger play out of something where I'd like to see the decision-making at times, especially given down in distance, you know, not on third and seven.

and you're trying to get eight or fourth and five and you're trying to get six. But on first and ten, let's get out of bounds after six yards and not try to turn it into seven or eight, you know? Anyway, the three sacks, just one was on Jaden. The next thing on my list is also Jaden. There's a read-option call on the opening drive of the game where he sticks it in Echler's gut. reading Abdul Carter. Actually, he's reading Burns, excuse me, on the edge. And Burns plays Jaden. He doesn't play the running back. And Jaden pulled it and ran it. Now, Burns couldn't catch him because Jaden's too good. And Jaden got five yards out of it. But I would bet you

a lot of money that they told them that he read the outside edge player incorrectly and he should have left it in Echler's gut. And I think Echler would have gotten five, six, seven yards out of it, maybe more. And last year, I had his quarterback guru coach on Taylor Kelly from the California group that coaches him up, John Beck's part of that group. And I asked him about some of the zone read stuff. And he said, yeah, the coaches have told him that, you know, some of the decision making on those weren't, you know, has to get a little bit better. And I

said last year, one of the reasons Brian Robinson Jr. and some of the running backs maybe didn't get some big chunk plays is maybe Jaden didn't handle the zone read decision making part the correct way. This play was definitely, I shouldn't say definitely.

I mean, I mentioned it on radio. I've already had multiple people text me, said that they watched the play and said 100% he read it incorrectly. So, yeah, by the way, Jaden was, to me, a B plus in the game. Maybe the only reason he was a B plus is because we've seen the A in the A plus games, and he didn't match that, but he was still damn good in the game. What else did I have here?

Oh, there was a comment from Jaden after the game that the reason Terry didn't get targeted as much is because he was double-teamed all day long? That's not true. He was doubled occasionally, but not all day long. Terry was targeted four times. He had two catches for 27 yards. By the way, the four targets were the third most in the game after Ertz and Debo. And the two targets that they didn't complete was the deep shot where, you know,

Jaden overthrew him. That could have been a 69-yard touchdown pass. and then the one in which Quinn challenged the incompletion call, and I thought it was a catch. I thought Terry caught that ball. I thought it was a catch too. If those two go Terry's way and the offense's way, it's four catches for over 100 yards,

and nobody's worried about the number of targets. But it's the two catches for 27 yards, and then people are like, well, how much? Then they look at the targets. he was definitely not double-teamed all day. In fact, Ertz got doubled and bracketed a little bit out there. I thought there are examples of him being doubled, but like the deep shot to Terry, he's not doubled on that one.

That's single coverage, and Jaden went to it and just missed the throw. Terry played more snaps than any other receiver. He played 79% of the snaps, so he took a full load, and I thought he had a good game. I thought Terry had a decent game for sure. You know, Terry's, Terry will block on running plays too. All right, what else did I have? Oh, I loved how after Lane dropped that first pass from Jaden,

the next play Jaden went right back to him. And it was a short pass over the middle for about five or six yards. Lane turned around and took it. up field for 11 yards. If Jaden's, you know, intention was to say, I'm coming right back to you, you know, we hear that all the time. Quarterbacks, you know, I believe in you, man, coming right back to you, even though you just dropped that one.

But for a young player, that's really a sign of a lot of emotional intelligence and understanding. I think Jaden's super smart, obviously. But I like that he came right back to him. Yeah, oh, and the last thing has nothing to do with anything that, oh, Will Harris. Will Harris was exceptional in this game. I talked about him a little bit on the postgame pod, but he flies around and he hits people. You know, Juan Martin is really the free safety in this offense, in this defense, and

Will Harris is more of the strong safety, and he's up closer to the line of scrimmage. He nailed Russell Wilson causing that fumble that Wilson actually recovered. But the whole defense flew around, played with incredible urgency. They swarmed. And number three, Will Harris, I thought, among several players who played exceptionally well, he was really good. You know, that was a question. Is Will Harris going to be an upgrade or not on Jeremy Chin, who I thought played well last year? but Will Harrison, game number one, was as good as anybody was on defense.

There just were a lot of good players on defense. Lastly, I'll just tell you that Matt Gay kicked two kicks into the end zone. You can't kick into the end zone anymore, people. You cannot give teams the ball at the 35-yard line. And what I'm finding after watching one weekend of more teams trying to kick the ball into the landing zone is it's not easy for everybody. It's not easy to get the ball between the 20 and the goal line consistently over and over again. There was a massive increase in kickoff returns.

In fact, the data is out today. Here it is. In the league's first slate of regular season games since the touchback was moved to the 35-yard line, teams returned 118 out of the 156 kickoff. for a 75.6% return rate. The last time the NFL had a higher return rate for a single week was week 17 of the 2010 season. Last year, what was the rate last year? It was less than 50.

32.8% on kickoffs being returned, and week one was 75.6%. Two things. One, you got to kick it if you're the kick team. into that landing area because you don't want to give it at the 35. And two, if you're the kickoff return team and it goes into the end zone, don't bring it out, unless you're the Minnesota Vikings last night, and I'll explain that coming up. But take the ball at the 35, take the gift.

Debo Samuel did not do that on the opening kickoff of the game. He returned it to the 21. That was a loss of 14 yards in field position. Was that informative? That was very informative. I feel like I know so much more now than I did before you started. Oh, one other thing. Abdul Carter is going to be really, really good.

He was as good as anybody in this game. He blocked a punt, should have blocked another one, and was absolutely outstanding on defense in his first NFL game. The Giants, I think, have something special in number 51. You could argue he was the best player in the game. I have no idea what PFF said. I wonder, I don't have PFF.

I could search to see if he was the highest ranked player in the game. But Abdul Carter is going to be a monster for the Giants for years to come. He certainly played that way in his first game. All right, we'll talk about the Monday night game. Tommy wants to talk about the passing of Davy Johnson as well. well. We've got that more after these words from a few of our sponsors. This episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. Guys, football season is back. Wasn't it fun to have the NFL back this past weekend? My favorite Daily Fantasy Sports app during

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And this weekend would have been a perfect example of that. You know, there was a massive, we are all D.C. march in downtown D.C. in the downtown area this weekend. You know, there was a big protest march. And, you know, some people took part in it. Other people who maybe didn't take part in it were kind of, trapped by it. Okay?

When that happens, the place to go to maybe exercise your own sense of democracy is Shelly's back room. I mean, if you're sitting there, if you can't get out of downtown anyway,

then embrace the best of downtown and head for Shelly. You know, I went on one of these marches not too long ago in Frederick. And in the middle of the march, my wife and I walked by a bar, and we'd jump in the

are, you know, and that was the end of our March. How long did you march for? Four minutes? Well, we marched for, I don't know, feel a little bit. Yeah. A little bit. What's a little bit? Well, more than a lot.

How's that? Okay. So it's the same mentality, you know? You did your civic duty. What were you marching for? What was the march for? What was the march for? What doesn't really matter?

Does it matter? Well, it doesn't matter. You're probably smart, not to mention it. Okay. continue, please. Right. Right. So it doesn't matter.

But my point is, if you're, if you're, if you're, even if you were marching in this march, you know, you only got so many steps in you, you only have so many shouts out there in you. You know, your signs probably getting kind of heavy. Head to Shelly's. Head to Shelly's and have a smoke to celebrate your, your participation in the democratic way. And if you're one of those people who are trapped, head to Shelly's and say, you know, go ahead, march, have a party. I'm having my own party here because at Shelly's, it's always a party.

With the best cigars, some of the best food you'll find on any menu, and a great drink selection. Find out more at shelley's backroom.com. I mean, you're going down with family to visit museums. You're ducking into Shelly's. I'll be right back, family. You know, you guys go do that. I'm going to connect with you a little bit later. you're in a big march and you're down there exercising.

You're right to march and to protest. Yeah, but Shelly's is right around the corner. I'm going to duck in there. I'm not saying it's the wrong call. You know, I'm not judging. You've done your part, you know? Nobody asked you to be Abby Hoffman for crying out loud. I haven't spoke.

By the way, first weekend of the NFL's Slate saw 240 total penalties called. That's a big increase from last year. Washington tied for second with the most penalties in week one. New Orleans had 13 with Tennessee, also having 13. Washington had 12, 6 offensively 5 by the defense. Let me speak to that for a minute. Okay.

You know, one of the things Dan Snyd, Dan Snyd, one of the things, you know, Quinn talked about in his post-game press conference, he kept saying how we've got to clean up a lot of things. We have a lot of things to clean up. That was a constant theme. So did you hear the press conference? I asked the question. Did you listen to it?

I did not. I read the transcript. Oh, okay. Well, I asked a question near the end. I said to him, you know, you keep talking about cleaning things up and, you know, being better prepared maybe. Isn't the preseason still an option to do those things? basically I said, you know, you have an opportunity to do those things in the preseason.

Right. And he kind of agreed with me. Yeah, he did. I remember reading this answer. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And you know what the funny part is? I didn't use that in my column at all. You didn't? It just didn't fit. But here I asked this question, which is a rarest point. The coach says, yeah, you got a good point there. You know, that there is something to consider, and I didn't even use it.

Yeah. The answer was, yeah, yeah, it still exists about, you know, the possibility of starters playing more in training camp, you know, et cetera. I think that's fair, he said, to get more turns and how do you balance back and forth? I thought the penalties went down and then they climbed back up again today. But, yeah, it's definitely a factor into it. sometimes just the health and the injuries factor into it too during the training camp. But yeah, I don't disagree with that was his answer. Look, the problem with trying to use the preseason as a way to avoid the sloppiness to the beginning of the regular season

is you have to play your starters a lot. And then... I know. Well, yes. And not just playing them, you know, because a lot of teams don't play. them at all. You can't just play them a series or two. You've got to play them like a half. You've got to let them get out there and play football. And they're just not going to do that anymore. No, they're not. But they could if they wanted to. They could. I mentioned the penalties, which reminded you about

this question and this answer. You know, the truth is, in watching a lot of games this weekend, I thought some teams looked really sharp. I mean, the national TV teams, the Thursday night game between the Cowboys and the Eagles, sharp performance by both teams. The Friday night game, I wouldn't say it was sharp by the Chiefs, but the Chargers looked really good. And then, you know, the game Sunday night is one of the great week one regular season games of all time. So let's, you know, let's talk about.

because I did not have a chance, and I was going to do it on yesterday's show, to talk about the other games and start with Buffalo and Baltimore. This game was not just insane at the end of it with Buffalo rallying from 15 down to win it. It was from the jump a breathtaking game. I mean, Derek Henry and Baltimore in the first half, they couldn't be stopped. And yet Buffalo was only down seven. and Josh Allen was playing well, and Keon Coleman looks like the real deal. It was just, the game was incredible.

I did think the game was over when Baltimore got up 15. I just couldn't see Baltimore getting stopped enough over the final, you know, five minutes or so for Buffalo to have a chance. You know, technically the rally was from 15 down with 357 to go. because they scored that score to make it 40 to 32 with 357 left. But I mean, what a football game. Unbelievable football game. And Derek Henry fumbling at the end was shocking after the game he had.

It was such a great game. And then he fumbles at the worst possible time giving Buffalo a chance, but they missed the two-point conversion. And then I have to say this real quickly, and then I'll let you weigh in, because I bet you did watch this game, because I know you pay attention to the Ravens. I'm sorry, but fourth down and three from your own 38, fourth and two, fourth and three, whatever it was, minute 33 to go, hanging on up to, I am not giving Josh Allen the football back, needing only three. I've got Lamar Jackson and I've got Derek Henry. I am going for that fourth down. I just think it's so ironic because there's such a heavy analytics-based team, Baltimore is.

And I don't know what the analytics say there. I don't pay attention to all that stuff. I mean, you're watching the game. I bet your instincts are probably, you know, with whatever the higher percentage of GoFort versus Not is. I think that was a go-for-it situation, and I think Baltimore screwed it up by not going for it. I just would never give that guy, Josh Allen, the football, needing only a field goal with a minute 30 to go. And Baltimore, you know, paid for it as they hit a walk-off field goal to beat him 41 to 40.

What a football game, though, right? You know, I can't disagree with you on that. I have to agree with you. Did you watch the game? Yes, I did. Yeah, because you... I didn't watch the whole game. Oh, you did?

I was driving home from the stadium. Uh-huh. And, you know, in the beginning. And then I stopped at a bar up in Frederick to get some dinner and a couple of beers, and I watched a lot of it there. Then I came home and watched the rest of it. The life of a writer, a columnist, he's at the stadium. The game ends at 4, 4, 15.

He does the locker room. He comes back to the press area, to the press box. He writes his column. It's a couple of hours later. He's leaving the stadium. And he's leaving the stadium with nobody there, you know, other than some security guards who complain about cigar smokers, especially when they're indoors.

And then he gets in his car and he's written his column and he's sent it off. And he's got a long drive from Landover back to Frederick. He doesn't go home. He goes to a bar. has a couple of beers, grabs some dinner, and watches the late game at the bar with a bunch of friends in Frederick. Right? That's not a bad life. Not a bad life.

But you didn't watch... What? I'll bet you there's not many 71-year-olds doing that life. No. I was going to say, add to that. Your age and your condition, more importantly, that is, you know, you. you got some energy. You got some energy and nothing's stopping you at this point.

Nothing is. Not even a security guard. But what you're saying is that when you got home, you didn't watch the rest of the game. You decided to go to bed. No, I did. I watched the rest of the game when I got home. Okay.

I thought you said you didn't watch the whole game. Oh, it's the first app that you didn't watch. Got it, got it, got it. I watched the beginning. So I watched. Yeah. No, I was there. I watched the end at home. Okay, so, yeah, I, yes, I thought it was a go-for-it situation.

Hell of a game. By the way, the first ever, 41 to 40 final score. It had never happened in NFL history. Real quickly, some of the other games from the weekend. First of all, on Friday night, I thought Justin Herbert looked great. Again, it's the opener, we'll see. and the Chiefs, you know, looks sloppy for sure in the opener. You know, the Chiefs had 10 penalties in the game, and that hurt them.

They didn't, I don't know, there's something about Kansas City. Like anybody that says, like I saw this this morning on Greenberg's get-up show, is Kansas City finally going to lose the AFC West? It's one week. Kansas City will be there at the end. I don't have any doubt about it, although Justin Herbert, man, can really play. The problem is he hasn't played well in the biggest games. The one o'clock window on Sunday, we were in that one o'clock window.

The Browns lost to the Bengals 17 to 16 in a game in which there's no way if you play that game pretty much the same time, 10 times, that the Browns lose more than once. They held Cincinnati's vaunted offense to two yards in the second half. Two. As a team, Cincinnati only generated 141 yards of offense. Miles Garrett had two sacks, four tackles for loss, and four quarterback hits in the game. and their kicker missed an extra point, he missed a field goal, and Flacco, who was outstanding in this game,

had two balls intercepted on ridiculously flukish plays. The receivers got the ball in his hands, bobbles it a little bit, and instead of dropping it to the ground, they bobbled it upwards, and it got picked off twice it happened to him. But by the way, nothing says the NFL is the most unpredictable thing than Cincinnati being, you know, arguably the best offensive team in the league last year, and thought to be the best offensive team in the league coming into this year, certainly one of them. And they had 141 yards of total offense in two yards in the second half.

And one, they won the game, 17 to 16. That was insane. The one o'clock window was great. Tampa beat Atlanta 23 to 20, a game in which Atlanta's running backs, maybe the two best combo, you know, the best combo of running backs in the league, Bejan Robinson and Tyler Algier. They combined for 22 carries for 48 yards. Tampa's defense was nasty against the run. And then their kicker, Atlanta's kicker, coup missed a field goal from 44 yards out that would have forced overtime.

Tampa's field goal kicker missed an extra point and a field goal. The Colts destroyed the dolphins, Tommy. Here's why with the quarterbacks, you've got to realize Marathon, not a sprint. Daniel Jones, one of the best week one performing quarterbacks in the league. Through for 272 in a touchdown, rushed for two touchdowns. Maybe it's just the fit in Indy with Shane Steichen in the group there. They've got weapons. They destroyed Miami 33.

to eight. I have a feeling that Mike McDaniel is in the last, you know, year of being a head coach in this league. I think you're right. They just, there's all sorts of issues. And, you know, Tyree Kill, by the way, another allegation about domestic abuse that was a headline earlier this morning. That's the Madrid game, you know, the dolphins. Maybe they bounce back. Who knows, They've got some talented players, but to get beat by the Colts, 33-8, I did give out the Colts as a smell test pick. What else was interesting? Pete Carroll's debut, Gino Smith and the Raider offense was the most explosive of week one. He threw for 362.

They're here a week from Sunday off of a Monday night game, Washington off of the Thursday night game, will have a major rest advantage. And then maybe, you know, one of these stories of the day other than the Buffalo Baltimore game was the Steelers beating the Jets 34 to 32 and Aaron Rogers throwing for four touchdown passes. I know that I have beat this drum for a while saying that last year was not Aaron Rogers fault at all and that he played like Aaron Rogers. I think Pittsburgh and I have him going to the AFC championship game, I think Tomlin in that environment is going to be a good one. I think the offense fits him.

He looked great. You know, I went back and watched some of the highlights of that game. He looks throwing the football, it's Aaron Rogers. He may not be as mobile as he once was, but if they can protect him, the Steelers are going to be dangerous. I think the scary thing for Pittsburgh is they gave up like, you know, 400 plus yards and 32 points. Their defense has to be better because remember at the end of last, year their defense started to really leak oil in a major way towards the end of last year.

So hopefully that's not a carryover, although it was in week one. Other than that, what else? 49ers won, but they are injured again everywhere. Kittles out for four to six weeks. Brock Purdy may be out. The Rams beat the Texans in a low-scoring game. And then the Packers, who Washington faces on Thursday night, they destroyed Detroit. didn't look like the Detroit team from last year without Ben Johnson.

And then Ben Johnson last night in his debut in Monday night football, they got the Vikings on the ropes. J.J. McCarthy looked horrible for the first three quarters. And then he was tough in that fourth quarter. Hit a big ball to Justin Jefferson for a touchdown. And then they came back and won that game 27, 24. Horrible clock management by Ben Johnson. completely oblivious to the situation at the end of the game when they were down 10.

They needed to kick a field goal early. That led to, by the way, an incredible understanding of the clock by Kevin O'Connell to have his kickoff return or return the kick to get it below two minutes. I won't go through the whole situation because I can tell you, Tommy's eyes are glazed over already. But Ben Johnson in his first game as a head coach proved at least for one night. that he's got a long way to go in sort of the clock management of a game. But Caleb Williams, I didn't think it looked that great personally. All right, that was the other NFL.

Do you have anything to add to this portion of the show? No, I don't think so. I think that's a complete portion. I don't think it needs anything added to it. Did you watch any of the game last night? No. What were you watching? Just tell me what you were watching.

What was I watching last night? A movie. What movie? No one of. What? Netflix. No, N-O-N-N-A-S with Vince Vaughn. Oh.

Was it good? Yeah, it was good. It was nice. You know, nice story based on a true story about this restaurant in Staten Island. Yes. Yeah. Where all the cooks are Italian grandmothers. Right.

I read about this. This is brand new, right? Yes. Yeah. It's worth, I tell you what, it's, if you want to score points

to watch a movie with your wife, this is a good one to watch. Okay. All right. Yeah, I saw it pop up on Netflix. And I, you know,

when you're searching Netflix and you, you know, you put, you know, you click on one and it gives you the quick previews. I watched that preview. And I wasn't sure if it was a new movie or an old movie, and I went and looked it up, and it looked like it was new.

So interesting. Okay. You wanted to say something about Davy Johnson, who passed away. You'll do that right after these words from a few of our sponsors. This segment of the show is brought to you by My Bookie. My Bookie is offering my listeners something that they're not offering any. of their other partners right now. If you want to bet on sports, bet on football,

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It's a loss of Davey Johnson. I considered him a friend. I got to cover him as a manager in Baltimore in, you know, in 96 and 97, and then when he came to Washington to manage the nationals from the middle of 2011 from 2013. And it was kind of a dream come true to cover Davy because he was the manager of that 86 Mets team when I was still a big Mets fan. Right. and now here I'm covering Davy

and he was so I learned so much about baseball from listening to him here's what Davy was Davey was smarter almost everybody in the game and had the confidence to back it up

this is why there were so many places he wound up managing five different teams because he would wear out as welcome he was fearless I mean he was and wasn't particularly interested, even if you were his boss, if he didn't think you were smart in what you had to say.

Okay, so this is why, you know, he bounced around so much. But, I mean, and here's the ironic thing. He introduced analytics. Like, back in the 60s, he was a math major. When he played for the Orioles, he used to go over to Johns Hopkins and use their computers to feed, baseball information into. And to come up with data about, you know,

matchups. He tried to give these to Earl Weaver, and Earl Weaver didn't pay attention to him. So Davey was this data-driven manager, player when he was playing with the Orioles. But, you know, so you would think in today's game, like if he was managing today, he would fit right in, but no, just the opposite. You see, what Davey did was he never used.

the numbers as a crutch. He used them as tools, but he never doubted his own ability for baseball instincts and how to judge players. So, I mean, so these pencil pushing GMs that run baseball now, if any of them walked in the Davey Johnson's office and said, here's your lineup card for today, I can guarantee you where he'd put that lineup card. So it's kind of an interesting mix because today's game is kind of what Davy Johnson used to preach, but not at the level they use it today. Right. You know, it doesn't, it wouldn't have consumed his baseball decisions.

The best one for me, the one that illustrates for me the essence of Davy Johnson with game one of the 1997 American League Division Series against his. Seattle Mariners. The Orioles were going to Seattle, the player Mariners, they were going to face Randy Johnson in game one. Now the Orioles had three left-handed hitters, Raphael Palmero, B.J. Surhoff and Roberto Al-Amar. Three of their best hitters in the lineup were all left-handed, and these always struggled against Randy Johnson. But still, this is a playoff game. These are three of your best hitters. Two of them, all-stars. Johnson benched them in the game.

He started a backup Jerome Walton for Palermo at first base. Jeff Rebellet, a banjo hitting hitter for Alamar at second, and Jeffrey Hammond for Sir Hoff in Wright. He bench 72 home runs at 258 RBI his favor of 28 home runs and 91 RBIs.

Palmeiro alone had better numbers than that trio. But it worked. You know, Hammond's walked twice and scored twice. Revely had a two-strike sacrifice bunt that put runners in scoring position for a two-run single by Eric Davis. Johnson wound up leaving the game after five innings, haven't thrown 100 pitches, and the nine to three loss to Baltimore. Wow.

I just... I've done what he did. Yeah. What was the reaction to that? I just pulled up the box score. It was game one in the kingdom. Yes. What was the reaction when the lineup was announced?

Well, it was, you know, Davey already had the reputation of being a guy who was fearless. Some people said that it was his ego that overtook him. I don't think it was. But, you know, it was, Davy had done things like this before, so people thought, well, he's going to step on himself on this one. This is his ego getting in the way here. People thought he was going to fail.

People thought the Orioles were going to lose that game. And they dominated. They wound up winning the series. And go into the championship series for the second three year. So there was a lot of doubt when he put that line about, out there. So the Orioles did a lot of Crowen after game one. They, they made, they, they certainly enjoyed, and Davy himself certainly enjoyed, you know, being right about that particular move, because if he had been wrong, he'd have been crucified for it, but he never cared about

that. He just didn't care about that. He was, you know, he was an interesting guy. He was, so he was a scratch golfer. Was he? A lot of the baseball guys are, yeah. But he used to hustle guys on the golf course all the time for money. He had a pilot's license. So he was a really interesting guy. But ultimately, he was a baseball guy, and he loved talking baseball. He loved talking strategies. And he was the first guy I ever heard, I've said this before,

talk about how players need to express their talent. He understood what players thought. He was a good player. He was a four-time All-Stars as a second basement. Right. So he understood the players' need to show people what they can do on a baseball field. So he was really a player's manager in that sense as well because he understood players. And nobody handled the bullpen in my lifetime better in Davy Johnson.

So, I mean, he's not in Hall fame. He should be. He has the sixth highest winning percentage. among managers who I think have managed, who have 1,300 wins. He has 1,300 wins, a 562 winning percentage, and I think he'll wind up in a hall of fame. I just wish it would happen sooner. You know, he managed that first playoff team,

the team in 2012 that went to the first season and had that epic meltdown, you know, the relief, the closer, Drew Storn. Drew Storn came in, you know, and gave up the big ninth inning to the Cardinals, and they lost that game 9 to 7, I think was the final score, a game that was basically over and won, and the Nats were going to advance. That was the first real, like, true baseball memory in this town for a lot of people, you know, losing that game five, and they went on to lose, you know, other games.

five's before they finally won the World Series. But yeah, that was not a good ending for that particular night with his closer. You know, I have a column that's probably going to run tomorrow or sometime later this week about Davey. And I know it's not good enough. I don't usually feel that way, but I know it won't do him justice. Well, why don't you go back and try harder? Because my philosophy is, if I didn't get it right the first time, I'm not going to get it right the second time. Really?

Yeah. Is that really a, that's really a philosophy? That's my philosophy when I write, you know? Yeah, I mean. I'm kind of like the Davy Johnson, the sports columnist. I remember, didn't you and I, I was with you, didn't you take me in there to, after or before a game? You went in there to talk to him and I went in there with you? Yes.

Do you remember that? Absolutely. Yeah. He seemed like just a really good guy's guy. Yes. Yes, he was. He was. Again, I mean, the best quality of him, he was intelligent and he was fearless.

You know, and he would not have put the cigar out the other day. He would not have done that. bringing the show to a full ending in full circle. Well, rest in peace, Davy Johnson. The Nats, by the way, are playing some pretty good baseball recently. If with football seasons started, you weren't paying attention. All right, this was a long show, but I thought an interesting and informative show, if I say so myself. Tommy, thank you.

We'll talk on Thursday, where we will preview and pick the Thursday night game, which involves our team. I'll talk to you then. Okay, boss. See you.