The Kevin Sheehan Show - Week 2 DEFCON Alert

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

Kevin and Thom today on the importance of Sunday's game against the Giants in week 2. The boys offered up some reasons about why there was a major lack of NFL passing yards and touchdowns in Week 1. They finished up with the Nats, Tyreek Hill, and Thom's Commanders-Giants prediction.    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

You don't want it. You don't need it. But you're going to get it anyway. The Kevin Cheehan Show. Here's Kevin. Tommy's here. I am here. The show's presenting sponsor, as always, is Window Nation.

Call them at 86690 Nation or head to WindowNation. com if you need new windows. I got this from Howl after yesterday's show, Tommy, a show that I titled A Giant Trap. and I intimated that Sunday's game is a trap game for Washington. And Hal wrote, Washington has a trap game. You've lost your mind, Sheehan. What a homer! Exclamation point.

Yeah, let me explain if you didn't listen to yesterday's show. And you should listen to yesterday's show because Logan Paulson was on the show. He's excellent, Tom. He is really, he's a great guy. He really is smart. He coaches currently at the high school level. Love the guys that are still in coaching, guys like Tim Legler.

He's excellent. So if you didn't listen to yesterday's show, he had a complete analysis of Sunday's game. He also had some interesting things to say about Emmanuel Forbes. But the reason I explain that it's a trap game is that this is going to be a smell test pick. All right, it's a smell test pick. I can tell you right now, almost guaranteed that tomorrow the Giants will be in the smell test. And I explained that somebody sent me a note yesterday saying, you know, you've been pretty good with games involving Washington.

I bet you're going to have the Giants Friday. And I'm like, yeah, you know, you know the smell test. I'm 64.5% on games involving Washington over the years. Last year I was four and two with either Washington or Washington. Washington's opponent in the smell test, and I had the giants in both games against Washington. They were underdogs in both games, and they won both games. They won in the Meadowlands, and then Tommy DeVito came into FedEx and hung one on the commanders. So that's really what I meant that, you know, it's a smell test pick because, but let me

let me add to that. And I think that if you've followed anything this week, read anything this week, the Giants right now are being mocked by everybody. NFL fans, their own fans, analysts, you know, experts, so-called. Daniel Jones was mocked coming out of the Meadowlands after the season opening loss to Minnesota on Sunday. He had to, you know, stand there yesterday, He said, you know, I'm upset, frustrated. I know they're upset and frustrated. We're frustrated. I understand that.

I'm not easily offended. I understand how it works. I've got to play better. We've all got to play better. He was asked if he felt like he was playing for his job this Sunday, and he said, we're playing to win games. I'm focusing on doing my job and playing well. I feel like I've been doubted plenty for a long time and dealt with that time and time again and done a good job with that. I think my mental toughness is in a good spot, and I'm not concerned about that.

I've said a number of times I'm concerned about the people in this building, and I think I've got plenty of help, plenty of good coaching, plenty of good teammates to work with here. That's what I'm focused on. I've got people I trust. This is the Giants, Washington was blown out Sunday. I understand that you can't suck and have a trap game. I get that. You know, Washington does not deserve the trap game designation or label.

No, they don't. But the Giants going into this game, for the public, better, the average NFL fan, they are thought to be much worse, much because of Daniel Jones. So, beware. Beware. I'm worried about Sunday. Very worried. Because I should be.

Everybody should be worried about Sunday. Okay, but this is our, you know, the very quotable coach, Jay Gruden, came up with the term code red. Yeah, right. For the Tampa game. Very quotable coach. Yeah, years ago. Now, this isn't a code red because no one's going to get fired if they lost on Sunday. So what would be the color for a loss on Sunday?

It's not a code red, although, yeah, like you're not a code because code red means, you know, people are going to disappear, okay? And I don't think that's going to happen. Well, you're going to be in the red a little bit more if you lose. Like, they're trying to get out of the red, and they need this game. And when I say they, I'm talking about, you know, ownership. front office, ticket sellers, corporate sponsorship sellers. They don't want to fall to 0 and 2 going to Cincinnati for a Monday night game. And again, we talked about this.

If they were playing the Ravens on Sunday, no worries if they lose. This team right now, the Giants, are the laughing stock of the NFL. And Daniel Jones is the face of the laughing stock of the NFL right now. Yeah. Yeah, he is. This is a good, I mean, the second week of the season, you don't want to have, look, Washington is, and it's even worse, you know, for commanders' fans, because they can't just have a simple bad team. Everything's always complicated with Washington, even with the evil one gone, you know. Here you have the second week of the season, and it feels like a must win.

okay I mean it just shows all the baggage that that that this team continues to drag along with it uh that

there's such dire uh dire uh... feelings about the outcome of a week two game because you know you know what you say

price it more than anybody about how the NFL season changes over the course of a year of course you know yeah yeah you can't ignore the feeling that this would just be a disaster,

perception-wise, like you said, for the organization, not just for the coaches or the players, but from the top down. Instead of a code and a color, maybe we should just go to the DefCon scale. Because this is not, is DefCon 1 or DefCon 5 the? most intense. What's the Beyond Alert we're about to get bombed by nukes? Is that DefCon 5 or DefCon? I think that's DefCon 5, right? No, DefCon 1. I don't know. What is it? Somebody tell me. I don't have a producer in my ear. Hold on. Let me look it up. You don't know?

DefCon 1 means nuclear war is imminent or has already begun. There we go. Okay, so DefCon 1 is the most, you know, B1. DefCon 5, we are, we're probably at DefCon 5 right now, right? I'm assuming that we're... What? I mean, I would argue it's DefCon 4. I would argue they open the season. I would argue this team until they show otherwise for writing...

No, I'm saying the country is in DefCon 5 right now. Now, the team, the team, what does Defecon stand for, by the way? Defense what? I don't even know. Do you know? You're looking it up. You found the scale. Okay. What does D-E-F-C-A-C-O-N stand for? Def-Con.

I don't know. The defense readiness condition. Okay. All right. There we go. We'll find out if they're conditioned and ready. They were neither on Sunday in Tampa. We weren't ready.

So you got them at Def-Con four? for Sunday? Yeah. I think it's more severe than that. I think it's DefCon 3. Okay. So what if they lose? Where are they at?

I think if they lose, they're DefCon 2. Oh my God. DefCon 2. One step away from annihilation? No, they're not. DefCon 2, next step to nuclear war. Defcon 5, lowest state of readiness. Defcon 4, increased intelligence watch and strengthened security measures.

DefCon 3, increase in force readiness above that required for normal readiness. We're at DefCon 3 right now. We have increased our force readiness above what's typical required for normal readiness. I wouldn't say that because I don't think they're going to, I don't think this team unless they go 0 and 17 is going to progress past DefCon 3 this year. What was the first time you ever heard the term DefCon? I can tell you exactly the first time I ever heard the term DefCon. I don't know.

I mean, have you ever? It was a movie. I don't think. It was a movie. Was it stale safe? No, it was War Games. The Ali Sheedy, Matthew Broderick. Yeah, that movie.

Okay. I remember seeing it. remember if that's the first time I ever heard it. Look, I mean, the two great nuclear war movies of the 60s, and I don't think it came up in either one, was Dr. Strange Love. Right. And the opposite of that was fail safe. I don't think, I don't know fail safe. Oh, fail safe. You've got to see fail safe sometime. Henry Fonda's the president. Walter Matthow is one of his advisors in a very serious role. Fail safe is a classic.

And imagining what it was when it came out, it's pretty scary. Failsafe. But you'd go for favor and watch that. But they were like two polar opposites about the same thing. Dr. Strangelove, one of the great comedies of all time, about nuclear war. So I don't know when I ever heard it. But you know, you know, when you heard it. War games.

I think that's true. I mean, I just remember as they were going through the DefCon scale, you know, and, you know, what was it Joshua, the game player that the guy created? I think that's what the computer's name was, Joshua. I'm reading, by the way, on the Wikipedia page right now about DefCon. So in the history of the DefCon scale, which it looks like, it was created in the early 1960s. Of course, it's a nuclear war thing,

so I would assume that it would have come once we found out that the Russians had nukes. But... Yeah, that was the under-your-death-care. Yeah. So during the Cuban missile crisis, we got to DefCon 2. All right?

That's the highest on the scale we've ever been at. except for the movie war games, which I think they got to DefCon 1. DefCon 2, Cuban Missile Crisis, DefCon 3, the Yom Kippur War in 1973, and 9-11. 9-11, Donald Rumsfeld ordered the Def-Con level to be increased to 3 and stood by for a possible increase to Def-Con 2. It was lowered to Def-Con 4 on 7.

September 14th, you know? So, of course, yesterday was 23 years ago to the day. Anyway. I think this is a franchise that constantly operates, maybe a deaf console. Yeah. I just think they do. I think so, too. I think that it's been, I would say that when Gibbs came back, we were finally able to put it back to DefCon 5 for a few years.

Yeah. I think that that was a four-year hiatus from DefCon 4. DefCon 4 took over in probably the year 2000 when Dan went out and started spending wildly on free agents. It may have actually gone to DefCon 4 when he walked into the locker room in 1999, the first year he owned the team after they got blown out in Dallas and started ripping Norve in front of the entire. locker room. That's a good move. And then, of course, when he put the vanilla ice cream on Mike Nolan's desk and let it melt all over his desk in a way of telling him that his defense was too vanilla. Can you imagine, by the way, I don't know how guys like him at some point along the way just didn't get their ass kicked. Exactly. Exactly. At that point, but you know what? Football coaches are authority figures, and they believe in authority figures.

And people with money and power are considered authority figures. So I think most football coaches are intimidated by owners. Maybe. I mean... No, I think there are... Look, there's no explanation. I know, look, we both like Mike Shanahan a lot. But there's no real explanation I can think of why he didn't tell Dan

to go, you know, take his pipe and smoke in a corner somewhere whenever the owner spoke up about something. Right. I think because he grew up in, you know, in respecting authority, respecting the chain of command kind of thing and recognize that it's the owner who is, you know, because you're right. I mean, Mike Nguyen with that, I mean, your first reaction is to, you know, reach over the grab of him and the space in it.

Where is he? Yeah. Go, and yeah, but Mike Nolan was a, I think, a pretty laid-back dude. Mike should have, Mike should have, and I think he was prepared to in 2013, to tell Dan to go sit in the corner because he was going to start Kirk in the opener against Philly because Robert wasn't legitimately ready, but remember, Kirk sprained his ankle in the preseason. That's right. And I also think that, you know, there are a number of moments, including, you know, the infamous Robert walking in with Mike and Kyle and Matt LaFleur and holding the meeting in which he wrote the list of plays that he would not run in the following season.

And Mike told us, remember that day that in that moment he got in the car and he said, Robert, thank you very much. You're excused. And he went over to Dan's house and told him, if you continue to. you to do this, you're going to ruin, not only him, you're going to ruin the team. But he could have, and, you know, remember the stories came out, he was ready to quit after, um, after 2012. But he didn't. Yeah, I mean, he didn't. I hear what you're saying. So where did, we, we're really kind of winding through this opening segment. Where do we land on? I think if the organization has been in DefCon for all of these years, I think,

given the excitement, the level of optimism that increased, I think, this offseason, the chance that people who have not given the organization a chance in recent years are willing to give them, you know, I'm going to shove the name issue aside for this conversation. There are people name or no name that are back, engaged, willing to give them a chance. and it's only one game, it's only week one. As most of you know, I can't possibly get myself to overreact to one game, and I won't overreact if they lose on Sunday. This is more about the conversation about the masses here.

I think it goes to DefCon 3 if they lose. Well, here's the best way to, I think. Actually, hold it. It's DefCon 3 now. I've raised the level to DefCon 3 before the game. Okay. So if they lose, what's the level? Can't be death con. Well, if they lose, the problem is you just go back to four because you're back to where you were before with a lot of people checked out. And that's a problem.

Here's what happened is for years, everybody was down in their bomb shelters. You know, and for years, for 25 years, people were in their bomb shelters, okay, afraid to come out. and then the team was sold, and it was a new day, and people came out at a bomb shelter, okay? And now you lose to the Giants, everyone's going to go back down into the fallout shelters again, and they're not going to come out for who knows how long. When they came out after they were told, we had messengers that went down and told everybody, he sold the team, he sold the team, you can come out, and they came out, and they're like, oh my God, it's so bright out here.

It's sunny. But they also saw the carnage. That's like that's a move, the movie Brewbaker. Yes, I remember that movie. Right. That's the point where he lets all the solitary inmates out of prison. Yeah. Not out of prison, but added their cells for the first time into the yard.

Into the yard. And make sure they all have sunglasses. Right. Because the sun would be too bright for them. Yeah, I mean, they came out and they saw. you know, they saw the slaughter. They're looking around. They're like, oh, my God, well, at least we survived it.

So let's go try to live a life. And here we are, and people are excited, and they've, you know, they're back in their homes and they're eating normal meals. They're nourished. Okay. And now if you lose to Daniel Jones, oh boy. Let's, let's, wait a minute, let's put a break on this. I know we should.

Okay. Okay. I mean, talk about. What? What? Overreaction. Yeah. You know?

I mean, we're fueling it right here. I mean, you know, losing on Sunday would be a bad development. Uh, but, uh... Bad development. You know, it's... Yeah. I mean, of course, Billy, don't you think that's understating the result? I don't, I'm...

Let me just, let me be clear about one thing. If they lose to the judge... Giants. I'm expecting them to lose to the Giants, all right? Based on the way I think about these games, I'm actually expecting them to lose to the Giants. But God, I don't want them to lose to the Giants. This is going to be the major happiness hedge bet of the last few years for me, because I'm going to have the Giants plus the point, and I'm going to be thrilled to lose that bet. So I, because I don't want them to lose this game. I want them to win this game. I want them to look good. winning this game, but a bad development might be underselling it for the way the mass, I think the masses that are paying attention are going to look for that bomb shelter sign,

you know, that fallout shelter sign, and scurry down those steps if they lose to the Giants. Because I don't think most of our fans are expecting them to lose to the Giants. I think most of them are like, this is a good spot to have the Giants after what happened. and Sunday against Tampa. So you think expectations were high be going into the season

or low? It's not... Look, one of the keys to success in life people is having low expectations. You've lived on that entire life. Yeah. Yes.

Okay, you should take it to your football team, particularly this football team as well. Be pleasantly surprised instead of massively disappointed. It's not that I think the expectations were high. Even my 10 and 7 prediction for the season was more of just kind of a hunch.

It's not my expectation. I did not have an expectation other than I was pretty convinced, and I still am, that Jaden Daniels will prove to have been the right choice, one of the quarterbacks in the draft that was gotten right by the team that picked him. It was more about the excitement level rather than an expectation level. I think there was excitement level, and let's face it. I sat and watched Dan Quinn's presser yesterday. This was a bit of a come-to-Jesus moment for secret sauce and identity talk on Sunday.

And they know it's only one game, and they know the NFL changes week to week, but I think their expectations for Sunday, weren't what they turned out to be. Because that was a beatdown. There were encouraging things you can pull from the game, but you had no hope basically from the mid third quarter, late third quarter on. And what was really disturbing was last year you had the worst defense in the NFL

or the 31st ranked defense in the NFL, and that's where you are after one week. And that's his area. area. That's the head coaches area. You're right. Look, like I point out my column earlier this week, as much as we were excited about the coaching changes and the training camp, you know, the addition of Cliff Kingsbury and Joe Witt and so that,

let's remember this is the first time Joe Witt's ever been a defensive coordinator. Yep. This is first time doing this job, you know? As much as Dan Quinn took the Falcons to the Super Bowl, the last time we saw Dan Quinn defense, they gave up 48 points to the Cowboys. Yeah, I mean, yeah, to the Packers. And the Cowboys' Defense Sunday, without him, was dominating.

It's, again, week one, but whatever. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, I just, there's reasons to be cautious, okay? I just don't know how bad it will be. I think it'll be more disappointing than devastating. Well, you called it a bad development. I would call it, I would say that, you know,

it's a troubling outcome if they lose. Again, not for me. I'm talking about what most people will view it as. I mean, some may want an investigation if they lose. Okay, why wouldn't it be a troubling outcome to you if the same issues that we think we see are coaching issues? Because it's two weeks with all these new players and all these new coaches. I know. Okay.

All right. You're right about that. I mean, I'm just, there's no way I'm going to come to the conclusion that they got the wrong coach, they got the wrong quarterback. They picked the wrong players after two games. The problem is, again, and this to me, this is crystallizing here. If you lose to the Giants, people will start questioning all of those things. It could have been any other team that came in here in week two and beat them. But the Giants or the Panthers, you know, the two teams that got run out of the building like Washington did on Sunday,

that would be more than a bad development for a lot of people. That would be a troubling outcome. Yes. Did we? Well, we certainly bury them today, didn't we? Well, it wasn't really intended necessarily. I was just trying to explain that I get why, how, and I got other tweets, kind of laughing at me calling the game a trap game.

And I understand that. Nobody understands the trap game label more than I do. And Washington's not deserving of the trap game label. I get that. But there is just something about the way the giants are being viewed by NFL fans, by giant fans, by Washington fans who are about to play the giants, that I think makes, which is why the public is lined up right now on Washington. And we know that Daniel Jones has feasted on Washington teams.

Not just, you know, Washington. I mean, Washington's teams have been. pretty bad. And the Giants have had a couple of decent seasons, but even when they've been bad, like when they were battling it out for the Chase Young sweepstakes for number two overall in 2019. So that was when he threw five touchdown passes and had the best game of his career. Did I tell you this? Oh, no, I didn't tell you this. I told Denton this yesterday. Chase Young is third after one week in pass rush win rate. He played the, second or third most snaps of any of the defensive lineman for the Saints on Sunday,

and apparently looks pretty good. I'm rooting for him. I'm rooting for him to figure it out because he was a ridiculous talent. Hopefully he'll figure it out. All right, I've got something for you when we come back, and it's more of an NFL conversation, not a Washington conversation, but it's an interesting week one development. We'll get to that and more right after these words.

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All right. So Tommy, this week one of the NFL season that just came and went, was one of the most unproductive passing week ones in history, certainly in recent history. There were only two quarterbacks who threw for more than 300 yards. Matt Stafford in the Sunday night game against Detroit threw for 317. Tuatunga Viloa, who will quarterback tonight, threw for 338 in the comeback win for Miami. five quarterbacks last year in week one through for 300 plus. Five years ago, just five years ago in 2019,

13 quarterbacks through for at least 300 yards in week one. So five years later, you only had two 300-yard passing quarterbacks. Maybe more alarming is that 17 quarterbacks in week one through for fewer than 200 yards. All right, 17 through for 200 or less, or less than 200. In 2019, only eight quarterbacks in week one through for fewer than 200 yards. The worst performance of the week, by the way, was Caleb Williams in his first game. He threw for just 93 yards in a win.

The Titans, by the way, held the bears to 148 total yards. So, touchdowns. How about this? 34 touchdown passes in week one. Five years ago, there were 61 touchdown passes in week one. In 2020, it was 52. In 2021, it was back to 61. In 2022, it was 51. And then last year, it was a big dip to 37, this year to 34.

So why? Why are passing yards and passing touchdowns way down? in week one. Do you have any theories? My initial reaction would be this is the product of September becoming the new preseason. No doubt that's part of it. Yeah, the lack of preseason play. I think a lot of people in the NFL now look at September as what would have been their preseason. I know Belichick always treated September like,

free season, and he could afford to do that because they played in a division where the Patriots didn't have any competition. So they could go, you know, they could have a 500 record in September and still win the division. But I think what you're seeing is a product of, you know, starting players not being, you know, ready to take the field when the first game in a season starts. Yeah, I think there's no doubt. I mean, I think defense, though, is affected by that as well. That's the only issue with that. I think what we see and we've seen for a while now is tackling in particular is not very good early in the season across the board. I have a couple of answers to this. The first is, and we've talked a lot about this because of the offensive line here,

there are real bad situations along the offensive line across the league. I mean, Washington, I know everybody focuses on our team, and they weren't very good last year. But as I kept reminding people, you know, a lot of the advanced numbers say they're right in the middle of the pack. And the reason for that is there are so many bad offensive lines. Why are there so many bad offensive lines? One of the reasons is that college football isn't really preparing offensive linemen for NFL football anymore. The game has changed so much, not in recent. years necessarily, but over, you know, a decade plus, you know, spread, you know, different

splits for offensive linemen, they're always in an up stance, never in a three-point stance, they're always pass blocking. There's RPO where you've got three yards down the field before you're called for ineligible. So I think offensive lines have really been diminished in recent years. I saw something last year when we were talking about Washington's office. offensive line, that it is the number one unit for injuries in the NFL. Now, that makes sense because it's the unit that has the most players. You know, if they're five offensive linemen, there's no other position where there is more than four. You know, you've got four defensive linemen. You've got two corners. You've got two safeties. You got three linebackers, you know,

in a basic four, three, et cetera. But, you know, linemen get rolled up on all the time. They're constantly, you know, dealing with new exotic schemes, blitz schemes, et cetera, to try to slow down the passing game. By the way, that would be part of it as well. Defenses, you know, coming up with more ways to fool and rush the passer. I think, you know, you've had some rookie, more rookie quarterbacks starting in week ones in recent years where teams are not afraid to play their guy in week one. I think that has something to do with it. But I think the big, reason is that we've had a lot of really good quarterbacks. Basically, they're not there anymore. You know, you don't have Brady. You don't have Breeze. You don't have Rathlisberger. You don't have

Rivers. You know, we've, Rogers, we didn't have Rogers last year. You know, we've got a shell of Rogers, although I thought he really looked good throwing a football, but he's going to ease his way back into it here. It's going to take a little bit of time. You know, you got a lot of quarterback issues. You've got offensive wine issues and quarterback issues. I mean, there are some really good ones, clearly, but the number of great quarterbacks has been diminished by a lot of players who have retired in recent years. I think that's a big part of it. That's good. That's a good observation. I mean, you know, those guys he mentioned, they're Hall fame quarterbacks. You're right. I mean, you know, if you pull up right now, I'm just pulling it up right now just to see, for an example, who PFF listed is the best quarterbacks in the league to start this season. All right. Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, who's, you know, more of a running quarterback, although he's throwing a lot of touchdown passes. Joe Burrow, who by the way, seems to be maybe not 100%. Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Dak Prescott, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rogers, Jalen Hertz, C.J. Stroud.

second year. You know, then you get into the next level. Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence, Brock Purdy, Tua, Kirk, Kirk Cousins, Jared Gough. The quarterback list, any quarterback list you put together, the guys that are now kind of pushing the top half of the league, even the top 10, are not these prolific proven guys. And so I think it has something to do with that. I don't know. It's interesting. We'll see whether or not it turns out to be a trend. you know, it's week one, but it is a stark, you know, contrast to what you've had in recent years. I mean, that's amazing that just five years ago, 61 touchdown passes week one, and this year, 34. You know, five years ago, you had all of these 300-yard passers in 2019, and, you know,

This year you only have two. It's crazy. You know what, Kevin? What? It's not affecting people watching the product, is it? Not even a little bit, but will it? Because the league wants offense, the league wants points. Well, we figure it'll come around.

I think everyone figures, you know, it will come around as the season progresses. But you saw, I mean, the television numbers are astonishing. continue to be. Number one, week one of all time. 21 and a half million on average. 12% from last year. Yeah. It's insane.

It's a juggernaut that nothing can get in the way of, it seems like. Not even the country. Not even the president. Yeah. Interesting. Points actually were up a little bit from last year, which was encouraging, but you also had some defensive touchdowns and a lot of rushing touchdowns more than passing the football.

Maybe we're going to, maybe we're, I'm not going to call anything a trend yet. I've got to see more, but just thinking about the Monday night game and the way the 49ers just ran the ball right down the Jets throat was really, you know, interesting. I mean, they didn't need Brock Purdy to do much at all to win that game. and they didn't even have their best running back, which is nuts. All right. A few other things to finish up right after these words from a few of our sponsors.

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Sounds good. Okay? Yeah. Now, you would have to basically put a gun to my head from people order a green apple cranberry chicken salad, but I go out to dinner with people who would order that all the time. Right. You know, that would be appealing to them.

Is that appealing to you? There are certain salads that are very appealing to me. That one doesn't sound awful. I mean, if somebody said, that's on the menu, and, It's part of a limited menu with mostly salads. That one doesn't sound awful. Sounds pretty good, actually. It's grilled, marinated chicken breast, fresh green apple, dried cranberries on a mixed salad greens tossed in balsamic, vinegar.

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Jake Irvin was outstanding, Tommy. I know you wanted to talk a little bit about his performance last night. He went six, gave up just one run, two hits, and six innings. And it's a bad loss for the Braves who saw earlier in the day the Mets rally in the ninth to knock off the Blue Jays. They're actually a game out of the wild card right now. But, you know, this is where the Nats are these days. They're in that, you know, can you play spoiler role?

They've got the Mets on the road in a few weeks. Next week, actually. If you're a Nats fan, everything about the future ranked true for you last night. You had James Woods go two for four with an RBI. You had Dylan Cruz go two for four with. an RBI, and you had one of their young stud pitchers, Jake Irvin, hits six innings of one-run ball. And now he has 10 wins this season.

Yeah. He's 10 and 12. Yep. And to have 22 decisions, period, is an accomplishment. It means that they're confident they can hand you the ball every week, and that he's fit. Jose Tenia went two for four, was stolen base and a run scored. You know, there was so much positive for the future in last night's game.

You know, it's the kind of game that people hope that this team will build off of going into the winter when they add more talent to make them not just a spoiler, but a competitor next season. So it was a good night at Nats Park. I was there for a while. I was there early for a while at Nats Park. I had business at Shelly's after that. But it was a good time to be at Nats Park. Beautiful night. You know, these are great times to be at Nats Park for games, by the way.

They've got, they've got, they've got this weekend. They're celebrating the 100th anniversary of the World Series. The 24 senators. Right. Yeah. So they've got all kinds of things going on this weekend. They're playing the Marlins this weekend. So there's a good chance they may win some games.

You know, I know everyone's going to be. Alford of the Commander's Giants game on Sunday, including myself. I'll be there for the first home game. But right now, it's a good time to go to Nats Park. The weather's beautiful. You know, temperatures are nice, and the team can be exciting like nights like last night. 1924, Washington won the World Series 100 years ago. So they're celebrating that this weekend because the World Series is an October event. Since the Nats aren't going to be playing in October this year, I guess that's why they're doing it. You know that Walter Johnson. They're having a big celebration this weekend.

You know, Walter Johnson pitched that game seven, which went 12 innings. Game 7 did with the Nats winning game seven. Let me just tell you, I've got some special information. I mean, I don't know if I should reveal it or not, but I will. Reveal it. Walter Johnson's going to throw out the first pitch on Friday night. That would be a story. That would be a story.

Yes. All right. Two things to finish up the show with. One is to re-kill. Two is your prediction for the game on Sunday. I think you actually had it almost spot on for the Tampa game. You can remind me here in a moment. So Tariq Hill yesterday did say in a press conference

that he could have been better in how he handled the situation. on Sunday morning outside of Hard Rock Stadium in Miami. He also called for that officer to be gone, gone, gone. Did we talk about this on Tuesday show or not? I think we were going to and we just forgot. Yeah, we did. So go ahead. Your thoughts on this whole To Recill a rest situation?

Well, this is such a firecracker in terms of volatility when you're talking to people about it. Because I, look, I covered cops for 15 years. That was part of what I did. Okay. I've got on ride-alongs with special units. I've got on ride-alongs in four different states. So I'm not a babe in the woods about this. there's been an epidemic of police violence in this country for decades, and particularly for people of color,

but I know it's affected people who aren't people of color as well. I think a lot of people I know personally have had somebody who's had an encounter, maybe not as drastic as this, but similar in terms of being scared and frightened. And that said, to retail should have put his window down when the cop told him to do it, when the officer told him to do it, especially a tented window, because from what I gather, from reading about it, tinted windows are a red flag for police officers. They get scared, rightfully so, because the traffic stop is a frightening thing for a police officer. I had a friend of mine who was a state trooper in New Jersey who was killed at a traffic stop

on Route 80 years ago. So 3-kill was wrong not to comply early and to show attitude. That said, it was an overreaction physically by the cop to basically basically react the way he did. And this is part of the problem. I mean, I think at that point, you know, you have an officer who thinks I'm going to show you, you don't deal with me that way instead of, you know, what the point of the stop is

is to basically, you know, to either cite this guy and move on. You know, I mean, when we talk about de-escalate, de-escalate, de-escalate, and that was the perfect example of the opposite. So there's blame on both sides.

I don't think, I don't know if anyone should lose their job over it, but it speaks to me to a bigger issue in this country that nobody on either side, of the aisle wants to face. I agree with you certainly on blame on both sides, plenty of blame to be spread around on this one. I think I would disagree with you that this is a firecracker incident, you know, incendiary

kind of an incident. It's easier for me on this one. It's less complicated. I get it, you know, the conversation about policing and how it should be done, which, of course, incorporates race into the discussion. that is firecracker explosive. I think this one for me isn't that complicated, in part because there's a lot of video out there,

lots of video, and there's context. When Hill admitted yesterday that he could have been better in the encounter, yes, his behavior could have been not just better, but much better. Because for me, two things are true. Number one is Tyree Kill was out of line with his reaction to getting pulled over. And two, the one police officer in particular, I think his name was Torres, he was excessive in his reaction.

You know, primarily, Tommy, because, you know, you talked about this, there was no attempt or a feeble attempt to de-escalate the situation. And knowing that they had his license, because we know that, and knowing that they knew this was Tyree Kill, not that they knew he was a wide receiver for the Miami Dolphins, but they likely knew that this was a player on the way to a game, just a couple of blocks away to the stadium. There just wasn't an attempt to de-escalate a situation

that seemed very easy or not as difficult as some situations to de-escalate. There was no good-faith attempt to de-escalate the situation. But, look, Hill is the one who initiates the tone for the entire. encounter. You know, it starts with don't bang on my window, don't bang on my window, don't bang on my window. First of all, they didn't bang on his window. They knocked on his window to tell him to put the window down. I personally don't think it's the best idea for kind of the opening scene of this interaction to be the guy who gets pulled over to start telling the police what to do. Usually it works the other way. You know, I think most of us were taught that it's not a good idea to get pulled over

and to start the conversation by telling the cop what he should be doing. Yes, sir, no, sir, whatever you need for me, sir. That was a pretty poor start to the encounter. And then, you know, he rolled up his window, a tinted window, and wouldn't immediately roll it down when they asked him to. Not exactly the kind of tact I think most of us would take if a cop is standing outside of our car trying to communicate with us. So right there, without even getting into the tinted window and how that poses a threat to the police officer on the scene, because they can't see what the driver's doing inside the car.

Even by the way, let me just add, even if this particular tinted window shouldn't have posed the same threat that another tinted window in a different situation may have posed because they had his license, because they knew he was a player on the way to a game, still, over the long, for Hill to have rolled up his window and not immediately responded when he was asked to roll it back down. I guess he was on the phone calling Drew Rosenhaus, his agent, or asking somebody else to call him. But you don't get to roll up the window. And essentially, with that action, tell the police officers, hey, I don't care that you want my window back down. I've got a call to make. You know, most of us were taught to deal with these situations in a completely different way. And I would interject, you know, most young men when they get their driver's license,

they get the talk, you know, white, black, purple. Famous, not famous. I was given the talk by my father. You know, it's yes, sir, no sir, total respect, no attitude, no back talk. And yes, of course, I understand that the talk black fathers have with their sons, has. Has. been and still is a different talk. I get that, and that's heartbreaking. But every young man, if they've got a father or mother who cares, they get that talk. And the advice we get on how to handle getting pulled over is not what Tyree Kill exhibited when he got pulled over. And it sounds like he understands that it wasn't the way it should have been handled. So for me, it's not that hard. He initiated the tone and then the one police officer in particular,

Torres, he certainly seemed less than interested in calming things down. Both things, in my opinion, are true. The one thing that I'm not sure of at this point, maybe it's out there, what was he doing? You know, the early reports is he was doing like a hundred and a 45 mile per hour zone, which is, you know, reckless driving, but I don't think it was that. I know that. Yeah. No, I think I think the official report said he was going 60 now. 60 and a 45? He was speeding, but he wasn't doing 100 miles an hour. Right.

So 60 and what, a 45 mile per hour zone? Because that's not reckless driving, I don't think. I think it's 20 plus. I'm not sure what the zone was. Okay. Yeah. All right. Oh, that's Kevin Sheehan driving right there, right?

I've gotten reckless driving before. I have. And by the way, when I got pulled over, it was in the 60 in a 45-mile-an-hour zone. No. I've done, I got reckless for well over 20 miles per hour over the speed limit in northern Virginia. This is 15 years ago. I actually got pulled over for reckless one other time. Or it should have been reckless, but they knocked it down because it was yes, sir, no, sir.

I'm very sorry, sir, right from the jump. Right. But, and it wasn't the other thing. But John Riggins, who I was doing the show with, he had his attorney who he nicknamed Homeless Jerry. I forget Jerry's last name. Homeless Jerry was able to get it knocked down to just a very expensive speeding ticket in court. But I did have to go to court. Remember, Jason Worth had to spend 10 days in jail in Northern Virginia for going over 100 miles an hour.

Right. Yeah. All right. So was I right that you were pretty much spot on with your prediction last week? I was 27 and 14 last week. 27 to 14, that was your final score prediction? Yes. Okay. Pretty good.

So what do you got this week? Well, this week, go to DefCon 2. No, I said DefCon. Oh, that's right. We're in DefCon 3 right now. I think it's just a DefCon 3 going into the game. Right. When they're leaving the stadium, it should definitely,

be Def Kunt, too, because the Giants are going to win this game 27 to 20. Daniel Jones is going to run for a touchdown, throw for two other touchdowns. And who's their kick? Graham Kahn, knows the kicker, right? I think so. I think he is. I think he's going to kick two field goals. And, you know, I think the Giants will have the ball for, just like what we saw last week.

You know, I don't think Washington offensive will have. the ball enough to do much damage, if any. So I've got the Giants winning 27 to 20, and there we are, people. All right. I'll have my prediction, keys to a win over the Giants, my smell test, everything else on tomorrow's show. All right, Tommy, good job today. I'll talk to you on Tuesday. All right, boss.