The Koerner Office - Business Ideas and Deep Dives with Chris Koerner - 9 Beginner-Friendly Ways to Make $10K⏐Ep. #233

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

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You could make 10K a day doing the hundred bucks a pop for 100 people. The worst one I've done made 40 grand. This will probably bring us between $25,000 and $45,000 of net profit. And we're subbing everything out. This was an idea that we talked about on the podcast and we're totally cool with people copying us because law of abundance and all that. Please, go look, go copy me. Also, if anyone wants to buy my tree trimming business, fast tree care.com, I'm selling it

because James is doing this now. It's simple to build. And what if you were forced to make $10,000 in a day, a week, a month, or a year? What if you didn't have a choice? Well, today, my friend Brandon and I break down a bunch of ideas that we would launch if we had to make $10,000 within each of those four timeframes. We also talked about things that we're building and or launching and or tinkering with right now. This is a certified banger. Please share with a friend.

All right. So I've got Brandon here, my friend, my business partner. We recorded two months ago and the audio failed. And it was a banger and it was so good. We're taking the time to sit down and re-record the whole thing. Isn't that right, Brandon? That's right. Yeah, that audio was my fault.

I apologize. Okay, so there's also been an update. One of the ideas we spoke about back in August, I've actually launched. I liked it so much. I launched it. And I'm going to share my screen and show everyone how I'm getting leads, how we're treating the leads. And I'm really, really excited about it.

So that is a 10K and a day idea. So we'll cover that at the end. and let's start, Brandon, with how some awesome ways to make $10,000 in a year. Okay, so I was trying to think of how could you capitalize off of existing audiences that are super diehard. So I thought of a few ideas. One would be board games. So there's a big cohort of people that love board games. I love board games. There are people that are absolutely obsessed, though. They love to play. They love to track. They love to track who played with who and win and who won and all that kind of stuff. They love to rate them. You can find large subredits of

people that are just, you know, dedicated to board games, not to mention endless Facebook groups. So I think that one could vibe code an app for board game lovers that is just the sort of CRM, personal CRM of everything board games, where they can do all the tracking, they can set up, you know, meetings with their friends, they can do whatever. It wouldn't be hard to vibe code this app and, you know, charge 10 bucks a month and you don't need that, that many people to hit 10K a year to do that. So what do you think of that one? I love it. Why don't you explain to everyone what you understand vibe coding to mean? Yeah, sorry. So for those who don't know, vibe coding would be using a tool like Replit or or Cloud or chat GPT where you use natural language, the way you

just speak to code the app. And then it could be a web app or it could be an actual like iOS, you know, iPhone app. But the rate that these tools have been improving, it's like I don't know how to code at all. I don't even know HTML. And I already have an app that's live in the app store. So it is for sure doable with some effort to get apps live, even if you don't know how to code at all. I pulled up a subreddit for board games that has 533,000 members. So not to mention board gaming, which has another 54,000 weekly visitors just in that one. So there are 600,000 diehard people that love board games so much that they're in a subreddit just for that. I love this idea.

It's simple. And it has a very, very passionate audience. And I think it rides the tidal wave of AI because it's anti-AI. It's in person. It's physical. It's, you know, and I'm very bullish on that stuff. And I'm, I've talked about a lot so I won't go into it. And it's simple.

It's simple to build. And I was just reading about Reddit advertising, how much better it's gotten. They have a new CEO. And it's gotten a lot better. It's got, because it's Reddit advertising has never been effective. Yeah. That's always been its downfall. And I think they've gotten a little more innovative.

And so this could be your opportunity to find two. two subreddits like these and just go hard on ads. Yeah. And if you lean into the ad as well, the ad could be like, I hate it when my friends don't remember the score of last week's game. Yep. Like something like that. And everyone's every because that would resonate with everyone in that subreddit.

It's funny because a lot of times we build a little apps like these and we add these little random cute little features that we think, oh, people will, people will think this is cute. And then like the feature ends up becoming the main thing. Yeah. You know, Slack started as a video game. And they built this amazing interface, the chat interface to use as you were playing the video game. And then the video game just sucked.

But everyone loved the chat. And so they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's do some with this chat. Chat. Like, let's unbundle this and make it its own thing. And now it's a billion dollar company. Yeah, that's amazing. One note that you said this piggybacks off of diehard communities. And then it's anti-AI, right?

Like you could do this same idea, but for quilting patterns, for quilters. They're also diehard, anti-AI. You could do this for gardeners, a gardening journal where people are tracking, you know, how well did their tomatoes grow this year, how many feet, how many did they produce, what box did they plant it in, you know, how much dirt or manure or whatever, what was that, you know, sort of combo that they did so they can better know what to do next spring. that's also anti-AI and a diehard group. So there's lots of niches within this general idea that I think you could attack.

I love it. I'm going to bring up an idea that just came to mind that is not on our list because we talked about Reddit and Reddit, I said they have a new CEO. That's wrong. They now have their co-founder back at the helm as the CEO. And that triggered this memory because the Reddit stock has been crushing, right? I don't own any, but I know it's been crushing. It took a big hit this week because there was an SEO update, yada, yada, yada.

we won't go into that. But my idea, right? Your idea is this app. I have an app idea that I think could make $10,000 a year or a month in this case, but we're on the year category, so I'll respect that. It was all based on the thesis that stocks, investing in stocks that have network effects and are founder-led outperform the market by a significant margin. Okay. For those listening, network effects is the more people that use your platform, the more valuable your platform becomes. Bitcoin is network effects, right? Like millions of people hold Bitcoin. And the more people to hold Bitcoin, the more valuable Bitcoin becomes because people are

less likely to sell it, right? Facebook, network effects, right? Like all your friends and family are on Facebook. So you're, you know, it's more valuable. Everyone's there, right? eBay, network effects. It's a marketplace, two-sided. Etsy, yeah.

Etsy. I don't remember where I learned this, but a company that is founder-led, does better because it's incentives like it's their baby they want it to do better and then a company that has a network effects it's a moat right it's an impenetrable moat that only grows as more people use it so when you put the two things together you know one plus one equals 10 so i vibe coded an app called neffle network effects founder led okay and it was just for my own use because i couldn't find a good system like i was prompting chat gpt what are all the stocks their network effects founder led but it's a spectrum, right? Like maybe Jeff Bezos isn't leading the company anymore, but he has a,

he has a lot of control over the board. That should be somewhere on the spectrum. And Amazon has network effects, right? Whereas Mark Zuckerberg, that's a 10 out of 10. Yeah. He's the founder. He's the leader. And it has network effects, right? And so I vibe code of this app that was very tedious that pulls from like Yahoo finance data where you can like there's a slider on the spectrum of network effects and founder led. And then you can back test it against the S&P 500. over the last month, year, 10 years, 100 years, whatever, to say like, all right, on the day that this company that today is founder led and has network effects, on the day they went public, what would my returns have looked like if I spent $100 on their IPO versus $100 in the

S&P? And it's pretty like sophisticated. It will, you know, you can back. That's awesome. Yeah. It is. Let me, you mind if I show you real quick? I'm excited to see it. It would be cool if it would be good enough eventually, because I know you're just, you just only recently started messing around with this, if it could find, and maybe it already can, opportunities in like industries that you wouldn't normally think of. Like, is there a network effect founder-led construction, you know, publicly traded construction company that not caterpillar, you know, but something smaller that I'd never heard of, but that it would be really appealing, you know? Yeah. Yeah. That is interesting. Yeah.

All right. So this is it. There's 502-ish companies in the S&P 500, 7 out of 10 plus network effects, 7 plus out of 10 founder led. And it says 25 companies match your filters. All right. Oh, that's a lot. Look at this. So the top green line is what my portfolio would have done. Dang. And the bottom one is the S&P. And the S&P is crushed. It's not great. So 29% return versus 8.4. And then there's weighted and unweighted, which is basically like time weighted. based on the individual dates of these IPOs versus like what the S&P has done over the last 10 years per year. Yeah. This is a massive, massive outperformance. Yeah, like 3x, right? Yeah. So A, I think this is rad. I've started investing in these stocks. Robin Hood, stub hub just went public. Their founder led and has network effects. And I'm just going to hold them forever, right? So I'm using this for myself. B, back to the original purpose of this podcast. like anyone can take any little investment thesis and build a little web app around it. Right.

And there's so many ways I could charge for this. Like you want so. Oh, yeah. You totally should. On average, a company goes public about every day for a week. And so it's like you want a notification when one of these stocks goes public. You know, you're not going to be tracking it every day. Five bucks a month.

You know, you want to be able to back test. Oh, do you want small cap stocks? Do you want NASDAQ and NYSC? Like there's so many ways. And this is just one thesis, right? of thousands of theses. So use Rappell at Lindy or whatever, Bolt, build a web app with your investment thesis and sell access to it.

Yeah, I don't know if this is 10,000. I know you didn't say this is 10,000 a day. But it's for sure 10,000 a year. I would say it's for sure 10,000 a month. Honestly, this could probably for sure be a 10,000 a week side gig. Yeah. People pay a lot of money for good financial data. Yeah.

So it's just fun. It's fun to mess with, and this is not investment advice. That's awesome. But now that I'm talking about it, I think I'll just throw a landing page up and make it free. Nefflstocks.com, N-EFL stocks.com. And anyone can use it. Don't go buy these stocks, because I don't know, but do your own research. But play around with it.

I mean, don't go buy them, but you can take a look at those graphs. You probably should have bought them. Dude, I mean, let me just tangent just for a second here. I like that you want to give people a free value, but anyone who is watching this video already got the free value because they can screen. shot this and buy. So I say launch it and do like a $1 free trial and then just have it be $10 a month after that. Yeah. It auto renews 30 days later at $10 a month. Or like lifetime access. Or that. Yeah. Yeah. And then you could pay monthly if you want recurring alerts or whatever.

Yeah. But dude, like these are the stocks in my portfolio that fit these criteria. Okay. And these are some of the best performing stocks of the last two decades. Coinbase, Tesla, Nvidia, still found lead. Robin Hood. I'm hitting the Jim Kramer. I'm hitting the Jim Kramer. I'm hitting the Jim Kramer. Robin Hood's up like 4X since like April. Yeah. I know. Meta stub hub, Airbnb. Those are all founder led network effect companies. That's awesome. I did screenshot this. I told my friend about this and he works for Fidelity. And he's like, hey, like we already have a Fidelity offers a mutual fund for this. It's called Fidelity Founders Fund. and I looked at it and it's like, it's very much not that. Like Microsoft is one of them.

That's not led by Bill Gates. Amazon, Alphabet, most of these, they're just like, well, the founder has an influence. And I'm like, that's not good enough for me. Yeah. Okay. Back to you. So yeah, 10K a year. We talked about a few 10K a month.

I think, I think quilting could be 10K a month because Al Dohn, who, have you had Al Done on your podcast, haven't you? Yeah. Yeah. I just, I spent a few days. of them. Yeah. He has like, you know, this whole quilting empire in Missouri or whatever doing nine figures a year. Correct me if I'm wrong. It is. It is. Yeah. There are quilting subredits who have, that have, you know, like 100,000 members, but there are endless quilting Facebook groups in different

categories. And I know this because my mom is an obsessive quilter. She's actually amazing at quilting. Like she's made all of my kids beautiful baby blankets and now that they're older, bigger kid blankets. And they're awesome. And she's always looking for new patterns. She's always buying new samples or whatever. She's always looking for new ideas. And that's just a run-of-the-mill quilter. And we know that also the age demo that my mom happens to be in, the like 60-5-year-old woman is easy to get to on Facebook ads. They have a lot of discretionary income to spend. So vibe coding, again, some sort of app that helps them track their favorite patterns or

it's their wish lists of patterns or it's the samples they want to get or whatever. Charge 10, 20 bucks a month. I think that's a money printer. Ooh. Or, or it could just be a chaty bdrapper. That's like a quilting chat bot. That's like, hey, like I can't get this pattern. quite right or what color would go well in this corner, you know?

Yeah. I'm totally ignorant to quilting. Yeah. No, yeah, that would totally work too. Chat Chb-T rapper, that's actually, I mean, you could build that into what I was saying or just have that be a completely separate idea because that would work really well too, because I think that age demo is still a little hesitant to use chat chabit or believe Chachybti, but if you called this app, you know, whatever, the quilting sense.

The quilting companion. Yeah, yeah, that's better. The quilting companion. And they could just chat like you were saying and ask them any questions about quilting at all. Yeah, they would pay for that. My mom, every time I'm on vacation with my mom, like at a family union, she lives in Utah now. But before when she lived in California and would visit me here in Utah, she would always, she always has a list of quilting shops that she needs to go to.

When I was in Europe last year, she asked me to stop by. specific quilting shops like in Scotland. She's like, can you get me this thing from there? I'm like, mom, my bags are already overweight. Trying to go to castles, mom. Yeah. Sorry to stereotype, but they're all like this. Oh, man, you can have a little directory in there.

You could have a chat bot in there. You could have patterns in there. POTD, little pattern of the day. Yeah, that's good. Ow, Al Don, if you listen to this, my brother, I'll build this. You're the guy to do this. Yeah, totally. A meetup organizer.

Yeah. Yeah. Everything. Yeah. All right. I got one for you. For 10K in a month, I think you could run geotargeted Facebook ads in your local area to business owners only and host an in-person AI boot camp.

Call it in like a holiday in conference center. You rent it out for $400 for an afternoon. You get business owners to pay $75 to show up. You get 100 of them. Maybe that's ambitious, $7,500, maybe you get 50 of them, three grand, whatever. You make decent money doing this. And you're going to have Facebook ads,

that might take half of your revenue. But that's aside from your, you know, your conference center rental or whatever it is, that's all of your overhead. And you just like do a PowerPoint. You do a Q&A at the end. Maybe it's two hours long, an hour of instruction, like general,

like here's how to create an AI voice agent. Here's how to create yada, yada. Now the real idea here is the, meet my friend at the back of the room for the high ticket offer, right? Yeah. The classic like Tony Robbins upsell and you sell these guys on one to $5,000 packages, either monthly or one time. If it's a $400,000 a year landscaping business,

it's probably going to be a one time low $1,000 charge. If it's a $5 million a year, HVAC business, it could be $2,500 a month for 12-month contract. And so you basically use this as an opportunity to pay for your meta ads and add a little cherry on top of some profit. Hopefully you close five to 10 guys at three grand each and make really good money for an afternoon. What do you think? Yeah, that's awesome. I mean, that could be something that you make 10K a month in or 10K a week in or 10K a day in because I think you could make 10K a day doing the hundred bucks a pop for 100 people where you're just, you know, it's the seven hour seminar with lunch.

the holiday in. It's true. Yeah. But you do maybe break even because you know that you've got those upsells coming in at the end. And then you have two upsells. You have like the monthly, the 2K a month, 3K a month type of thing where you give them, you know, some systems or whatever that you found or that you've built. But the 10k a day version is, hey, I'm going to go in with you all day. I'm going to see every, I'm just going to be your shadow the whole day. I'm going to see how you do your email, how you talk to your, if it's a contractor, how you talk to your subs. I'm going to see how you bid your leads. I'm going to see every single thing you do. I'm going to see how you talk to your secretary. And then the next day, you make it sound longer. Then I'm going to

take the next month and I'm going to build out all the systems to automate all that. 10 grand, one time fee. It actually only takes you a day because you already have it prepped. And here you go. I bet a lot of people will do that too. 100%. And I think it's important, you name it. something like Minneapolis AI experts, right? Yeah. Like local city AI expert, expert or experts. I think the local aspect is very important. They don't want to think you're some traveling salesman rolling in and rolling out of town with everyone's money. Like you're a local. And if you want to scale this, like, whatever, there's, there's still going to be 100,000 business owners in Minneapolis, right? Yeah. Like just an easy number for me to remember is 10% of basically every human

in America is a business owner, right? There's 33 million business owners, 33, 330 million people, right? So Minneapolis has a million people. You got 100,000 business owners. Now, granted, most of them cannot afford this, right? Most of them, but that's okay. 20,000 of them probably can. Can you get 50 of those 20,000 to show up with your Facebook ads, especially if they see the same Facebook ad 10 times over the course of a week, you know? Yeah. And then they're going to bring a friend. Yeah, build that in. Have a refer a friend thing to get. discount or whatever, but they're all having conversations now and these conversations are only going to accelerate the topic being, how do I implement AI in my company? I don't know. I don't know

how to do it. I don't know where to go. Right. And then they Google something and then they see, who knows what they see all different. They see like ads from IBM talking about AI and like IBM's not actually wanting their business, but IBM is just spending right because they're spending all things related to AI. So yeah, and anyone, I know lots of people are enjoying going down the local newsletter rabbit hole. I have a local newsletter that I don't spend much effort on at all, but I recently, I only do like two cents a month with this thing. I need to do more with Beehive. Use Chris's affiliate link below, please. Thank you, Briner. But I started putting, after our last call that we had to re-record, I started putting a Google form in the newsletter.

pitching saying that I'm going to do an AI seminar for small business owners and to indicate interest and then with some questions about like topic ideas and length of time. And I have like 27 responses so far saying that they're in for the $100 on a Saturday. So, whoa. Yeah. Whoa. Okay. So big time. Plot twist. Chris brings up a random idea and you tell me you're doing it. That was not an audience plant here. Yeah. That's cool. That's true actually. Yeah. So I just thought, oh, I'll just do that. I'll just have that link in my newsletter until I get to 100. And then that'll be the trigger where I actually send where I book something. And, you know, maybe I don't get a hundred who actually follow through. But they all know that I'm going to

do it for $100 and it's going to be on a Saturday. And here's the topics. You know, maybe half convert. But then I'm now I'm going to go down your rabbit hole of, okay, now I'll use chat GPT to help me plan the seminar. Then I'll do the seminar. I'll use chat chepti to help me think of the upsells for different sizes of companies. And what's the monthly and what's the one day, you know, whatever. And, you know, you're using AI to do stuff with AI and it works. Dude.

Amazing. We got to do 10K in a week now, right? Yeah, 10K ideas in a week. You had a good one last time recorded. You should do this one again. Shipping container storage rental. Oh, yeah. So just for those listening, you have not heard this already.

I recorded it. We never published it. The 80-20 of it is you go on Facebook marketplace. You find someone selling a 20 or 40-foot shipping container. You buy them for $2,000 to $5,000 each and you rent them out as storage, as an alternative to a 10-by-10 storage unit. They're much, much bigger. Just crunch the numbers on that. like a 10 by 10 storage unit in any market is going to go between $85 and $185.

So that's 100 square feet, whereas a 40 foot shipping container that you pay $4,000 for is 8 by 320 square feet. I think I have that right, 8 by 40 and 8 feet tall. So it's three times as big. And if you charge 150 bucks a month for it, call it the same price. You make that money back in two years, two and a half years. or you split it up into fourths and you rent it out for $75 a month and you're effectively making $300 a month and making your money back in a year. It's portable storage.

And I've got a buddy on Twitter who does this. He will find a plot of land that's on a busy road and he will do a lease purchase agreement where he says, all right, Mr. Owner of this land, I want to put a storage facility here. They won't be permanent. They're going to be portable. I don't know if it will work, so I'll pay you $2,000 a month for the next 12 months. If my business goes well, let's agree that you'll sell it to me today for $400,000. If it does not go well, we're just going to, you know, shake hands and go separate ways.

And as far as I know, he's never had a deal not go well. It's just a way of him proving out the model and starting a business, de-risking and getting investors on board and banks on board. He has a whole year to do that before he ends up having to buy the land. So that's kind of like two ideas in one, but what did I miss? Yeah, that's awesome. Well, I feel like, because I've actually looked at storage containers, you can always get them for remarkably cheap, these big old things. So, yeah, I think, I think that's a really good idea.

Well, and how do you make 10K in a week? A, you can charge a year up front for a discount. B, you can resell them. C, I don't know, how can you? How else can you? I think that I mean. I don't know how else, but why is this in a week category? Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe it's in a month. Oh, or you can, you just buy multiples, right? You buy multiples. Yeah. Yeah, that's why. Yeah. And then you sell you're up front.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I really like that. Okay. Here's another one in a week. A garage sale as a service service. So garage sales are big. There are lots of people, though, who could make lots of money with garage sales.

sales, but don't want to do it. Maybe they don't want to do it at their house, or maybe they just don't have the time because maybe they're upper middle class or higher. So the idea, and this does exist, but it's actually quite rare. Like there's a place in SoCal that we found. There's not that many places, though. Go to the specific larger neighborhoods in your general metro area that are higher income, pitch your service, you take, you charge a fee and then you get a cut of all the proceeds and go to the, go to the luxury, you know, more luxury neighborhoods. And then all they have to do is the only thing they have to do is just put everything, whatever, on their driveway that they want you to sell. Your job then is you're going to take it, you're going to put it wherever

the garage sale is going to be. You're going to price it. You're going to obviously try to maximize the value because you're getting paid on commission. basically. And I think you could for sure make 10K in a week because I guarantee you in where I live in Utah, there's a city named Alpine. There's a lot of people who have a lot of money who live in Alpine. These are not the type of people that are like thinking, oh man, what should I, when should my next garage sale be? But I guarantee you they have lots of stuff that's worth a lot that they can't fit anymore because they keep buying more stuff. Yeah. And you know what they're going to do if they never have a garage sale? They're going to rent a dumpster for $500 and throw it all away.

Yeah. That's your batina. Your best alternative to a negotiated agreement is them just throwing it all away and losing $500, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And you could tell them that you could do it offside if they don't want to be, you

know, exposed for selling their old stuff from an ego standpoint or image standpoint, right? Or you could do it at their, and that would be an extra fee, you having to do it somewhere else versus their own driveway. But you handle all the advertising. and simultaneously though, especially if you're obviously geotargeted, if you're just in, like if you're in specific county or two, then you, this person should be building an email list and a text list that you blast out the next time you're doing a luxury garage sale so you can come to these homes, these homeowners, and say, hey, I already have a list of 3,000 people that love buying from luxury garage sales. So I promise you, like the worst one I've done made 40 grand. Oh, geez. Dude, it's like in TK owners, our community, right?

We had an AMA yesterday and a guy buys pressure washers and, you know, furniture, you know, outdoor furniture. And he said, Chris, how can I decrease my reliance on Facebook marketplace? And I said, build an email list. Like run Facebook ads to your local area in Sacramento, build an email list and send out daily deals. and then people just love a good deal. Like they don't need a black stone. They need a black stone for $100 off, you know? Yeah. And then they can feel special like they're in on a secret.

So what you're suggesting is basically a version of that, but for garage sales, right? You build your own list and own your own audience. Yeah. Dude, that gives me a secondary idea that we didn't talk about last time based on a conversation I had with a friend a week ago. Okay, so this guy, his whole business, you're going to love this. He doesn't really have a family. He travels a lot. He's kind of a vagabond.

His whole business is traveling around the country, going to estate sales once they're basically done and buying all the leftover crap for pennies on the dollar. Okay. Okay. He doesn't care about estate sales when they launch. Like let's say an estate sale is Friday to Sunday. He goes Sunday night. It's like, oh, what's you got? We got this furniture, you know, this couch that was six grand at retail that we tried to sell for 500 bucks.

We've got this. You know, it was three grand for retail. We tried to sell for $200. And that's the thing with selling any of this stuff. I don't care how good of a deal it is. A lot of times people just don't want it, right? Especially if the estate sale did not market well. And there wasn't a big enough audience.

So he comes in and back to a Batna, best alternative to a negotiated agreement, the heirs of the person that likely just died. What they have to do now is go rent a $500 roll off dumpster, maybe three of them, and throw all this crap away, because the house is sold. They got to get it out. And they're probably in a bad mood already or not a happy. They're in a bad mood.

And they don't want to throw this stuff away, right? They don't want to, you know, throw away grandma's old China cabinet that was from World War II. And so he comes in and let's just say I'm making this up. The price, the individual price tags of all this stuff, which is already heavily discounted is $5,000 left, right? Yeah. He comes in and says, I'll give you $500 for it. I'll have it gone by the morning. And they're like, done.

That means I don't have to spend 500 bucks to throw it away. And then he goes and resells it. That's all he does, dude. He's like, they say in business, you know, sell your sawdust, right? All the leftover stuff. This guy's buying sawdust and then selling that. Yeah, that's awesome. That's amazing.

Okay, well, I have an idea for 10K in a day. And then you got to drop the mic with your last 10K in a day one. Yep. Okay, so here's mine. It's a pop-up headshot. booth, you do this at either at business events or at like an office. And what your offer is, is you have all the camera, you know, the nice camera set up, all that kind of stuff. People can come in and just schedule, you know, 10, 15 minutes slots and get whatever they need done. But it's

only 10 to 15 minutes. So you can still charge high because you're going to provide a lot of value and give them the fully edited versions. But if they need headshots, if they, have an e-commerce brand and they need product shots, if they need some quick UGC videos, if they need a good studio. You're just a studio, but for a day, and you have everything ready and you give them everything they need. And I think you could do this at different studios around the city or state or whatever and or go to conferences and have a nice setup that are business conferences and say, hey,

you need to update your headshot. Dude, all day. All day. All day. I think you can make good money. This reminds you just asked me about Main Street, the conference in Missouri. When Nick and I went to Main Street last year, one of the, you know, the tickets were like $1,500, but one of the features that were included were free headshots.

And so Main Street was paying them. And then I get in line to get my headshot. You go like make a 10 minute appointment. And it was sponsored by open phone, right? Okay. Yeah. It's a great company. They're Silicon Valley funded.

And I'm in line just talking. And one of the open phone representatives is like just talking to me. she's super nice. And then later I look her up and it was the founder and of like this big company and she was at Main Street. And so not only that like I think I'm making an assumption here. Open phone paid the conference to pay photographer, a local photographer to take free headshots. And that headshot is my picture everywhere. Like on all my socials. I got it for free. Right. Yeah. And so this is like a modern day corporate version of the JC Penny like glamour shots. Right. And so let's say. Let's see. say I worked in a high rise in downtown Dallas, you know, 67 stories, 67. And I walk in from

Chipotle through the lobby to the elevators. And I see like a big hubbub over to the right. Someone taking headshots like, dang it, my LinkedIn headshot is four years old. This will probably take three minutes. There's a QR code to the girls Venmo for 25 bucks. I'm going to do that all day. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. Okay, drop the hammer. All right. So when we have this, a call two months ago, I talked about, you know, taking all these subcontractors I'd found for building my own sport court and, you know, like starting my own sport court construction business. I've told the story a couple of times, so I'll just go real quickly. We built a sport court in our backyard. I got quotes, the quotes were between $50,000 and $60,000. It's not worth

it to me. That's too much money and I'm cheap. And we're talking about four things here. We're talking about cement pad, surfacing, a fence, basketball hoop. and electrical. So that's actually five things. It's five subcontractors, right? And so I just started reaching out on a Facebook marketplace, friends and family. I have like three friends that have just got sport courts put in. Long story short, it's almost done. I'm getting electrical done today. I'm getting the surfacing done next week. The fence is in. The hoop is in. It looks amazing. I'm paying like $29,000 for it for everything. Nice. And I want to hand, it's like, yeah, but what about the value of your time, Chris? Listen, I swipe Instagram for an hour a day, two hours a day.

I do hate that comment. I watch Love is Blind with my wife every night. Do I value my time highly? Yeah. But like that logic only works if every second of your day is fully optimized to the help. Right. Okay. So if I hire a guy to do it, I'm still going to have to go out there and tell the subs to move that thing over there that he did that wrong.

I still have headaches. It's just headaches plus $21,000 extra dollars. So it's like, why not keep the headaches and keep the money? Yeah. So anyway. So James, my friend slash business partner, a fast tree care. So I go to James and I'm like, what do you think?

I love it. So we buy the domain named Backyard Funhouse.com. He uses Versel to build a beautiful website. Like it does not look like a vibe coded website. To put a website on it, I take six videos, selfie videos, no script in my backyard saying like, look at this frigging sport court. It's still under construction. But do you want your kids to be on screens all day or do you want them to be playing on

a sport court? They're on screens because they don't have anything better to do outside. Give them something better to do. I kind of took that angle. And I posted six videos to Facebook ads, $100 a day budget per video, each ad in its own ad set. And I will share my screen and show the proof. And here are the results so far. I started around October 1st.

I turned off one of the five ads because it was not performing. I was spending $150 per lead. But you can see, after seven days of data, I'm spending between $23 and $36. per lead. Yeah, that's amazing. You're doing the form fill out within meta. Is that what's happening? Instant form within meta.

Then they can click through to my website once I get their data. But I'm just asking for their name and phone number. So in the spirit of transparency and being tactical, this is what my ad looks like. It's not fancy. It's just me talking. I edited it myself in Capcut. I just have captions. It took me five minutes to edit each one.

Pools are lame. Pool. Pools are lame. I love that hook. It's like basically pools are old news now, sport courts. That was just one. And I'm jumping on a trampoline because we also sell in ground trampolines. And I use chat, jupiti to generate my headlines, my primary text, my description.

I don't even know the difference between all of them, to be honest. I learned it and then I forgot it. And then I just have this instant form that just asks for their name and number. And then if you go over here, my leads are pushing through to a Google sheet, through Zapier. and this is the name, this is the phone number, this is when it came in, this is the name of the ad because maybe you spend $100 to get a lead, but they're 10 times more likely to close. Maybe a different ad only costs you $10 to get a lead. So you're like, oh, let's go all in on this.

But those people are less likely to close. So I want to know which ads are converting to leads and which leads are converting to closes. So as you can see to those watching, and I do recommend you pull up the video of this, 80% of these ghost us. And that's the game. You know, when I knocked on doors in Hungary, 99% of everyone ghosted me.

And that's the game. That's okay because we've already given out like four quotes. This is how James is scoring him from 1 to 10. And then this is, this isn't updated right now. That's just a placeholder. But long story short, like this $2,500 in ad spend thus far will probably bring us between,

25 and 45,000 of net profit. Yeah. And we're subbing everything out. Yeah. So this was an idea that we talked about on the podcast. And it's like, it's not like we only talk about ideas that like we don't really like that much. Like we talk about all of them.

And some of them we like so much that we start. And we're totally cool with people copying us because law of abundance and all that. And also, if you're in DFW, check out backyard funhouse.com. We'd love to take care of you. I'm going to start this for, for you. I'm going to, I'll do a slightly different approach. I love the way you did your video ad, though. I'll do the meta lead thing still. I don't have a James though. I guess I could try to find a James because I was thinking maybe I do it without a James. And I just say, I'll show what I've done and I'll say, hey, I vetted five contractors for each of all these things I did, my sport court, my pool, my putting green, etc. I already vetted five for each. I'll just give you the info of the best one who's still affordable for each one. Just pay me a flat fee of a thousand bucks.

And then I'll separately try to get those subs to pay me a cut for each job that they actually get hired on. So maybe I'll take that approach. But I do want to do this because I love the idea, which was yours, by the way. I can't wait to hear how that goes. It's going to be awesome. And if anyone wants to see those ads, like just go to the meta ads library, type in the Kerner office and they're live today. As of today, they might not be live forever, but please go look,

go copy me. Also, if anyone wants to buy my tree trimming business, fast treecare.com, I'm selling it because James is doing this now. And it's going to be cheap and it's a good business and all the goodwill and assets are there and you'll get support directly from me and James. So if you want to buy fast tree care, email Chris at cofounders.com and let's talk. Also, if you want to join a community with hundreds of active entrepreneurs, tkowners.com, where Chris peels back the curtain like he did today. He does it every every week in there. Every Tuesday at noon. We've got, we're at like 550 now, 550 people in there.

Yeah, a lot of people, a lot of awesome people. Amen. Thanks. Hey, guys, if you're still listening to this, it's probably because you haven't had a chance to take your AirPods out. You're still mulling the lawn. You're still driving. What have you.

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