The Koerner Office - Business Ideas and Deep Dives with Chris Koerner - Make Money With This New AI Agent That Works 24/7 - Ep. #331
Episode Date: September 1, 2026Check out my newsletter at �...�https://TKOPOD.com and join my community at https://TKOwners.com━I sat down with Billy Howell again to see how he’s using Grok Bot to run his newsletter, manage outreach, research products, and automate repetitive work. We break down how to build a focused team of AI agents, turn a simple offer into revenue, and avoid using AI as another form of procrastination. After our conversation, I test Grok Bot myself and use it to build a working productivity app in under an hour.Billy’s previous episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFP7wnWkX4whttps://open.spotify.com/episode/3KBpKAa5BmhDuM1zdHLtlA?si=6B3hY8WcQbmh2F-rM_XcwQBilly on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa6nzp_BwAIuuJN89cwkQNQBilly on X: https://x.com/billyjhowellEnjoy!---Watch this on YouTube instead here: tkopod.co/p-ytAsk me a question on or off the show here: http://tkopod.co/p-askLearn more about me: http://tkopod.co/p-cjkLearn about my company: http://tkopod.co/p-cofFollow me on Twitter here: http://tkopod.co/p-xFree weekly business ideas newsletter: http://tkopod.co/p-nlShare this podcast: http://tkopod.co/p-allScrape small business data: http://tkopod.co/p-os---
Transcript
Discussion (0)
This is an amazing opportunity.
This is a new product.
It works great.
You're getting probably $10,000 worth of tokens for your subscription.
Use it to make money.
Stop organizing your Gmail for the sixth time.
That's not going to change your life.
Anything you see on Twitter that people are getting wrong about Grockbot?
Yeah, everything.
Let's hear it.
Everything that I see on Twitter is like,
whoa, I just had Grockbot make this knowledge graph.
And it called my dad and this and that.
It's just advanced forms of performance.
It's got a bias for action. It just does stuff. I couldn't automate it with Codex, couldn't automate it with Notion.
Brockbot took over immediately. It was doing stuff that I couldn't set up. I don't think you need a lot. I don't think you need to customize. I don't think you need to make 80 different agents. They're just good to go. They know what to do. And they can work on it even when your laptop's closed. It's already done. What the crap. My gosh, it works. That's crazy. Okay, that was very easy.
If someone is brand new to Grockbot and they want to use it to build something, like you're saying, what's like a good first step or an agent that can get someone to revenue?
This is a pro tip.
I can't go three feet nowadays without hearing about Grockbot.
What is Grockbot?
Well, we all know we have Chad Gapit, Claude, Gemini, and GROC, which is owned by Elon X, Twitter, whatever.
That's GROC.
GROC just came out with GrockBot, which is an agent.
It's an AI agent that's groundbreaking.
It's amazing.
It does stuff for you.
We've talked about agents before, but this seems to be the best one so far.
So last year I had a friend named Billy Howellon, the pod.
You guys loved him.
He was one of my best episodes of last year.
We'll link it in the show notes.
He's on the cutting edge of these agents.
So I had him on to teach us and tell us, what is Grockpot?
How can we use it?
How can we prompt it?
Most importantly, how can we make money with it?
If you hear a few acronyms you're not familiar with, C-L-I command line interface,
it's just a way of interacting with a computer.
API, it's a way that software,
interacts with each other. But don't worry about all that. If you ever wanted an AI agent to run a
business for you, start a business for you and make money for you, today you're going to hear
it from a guy who's actually doing that today. And then after I hang up with Billy, I go ahead and
download Grockbot for the first time and build an app. Guys, it blew my mind. Okay. Open Claw is
cool, right? But it's pretty confusing. This is as confusing as signing up for a Facebook account is.
It's not confusing at all. And it really freakishly blew my mind how quickly I had a working
sellable app. So interview first and then build second. Okay. So why don't we just start broadly and tell me how
you're using Grockbot today. Okay, so I'm using it to run Arlington Bagel, which is my local events and
restaurant news newsletter. It runs editorial. It runs research and it runs the sales team as well as the
Shopify for the lovely hats. But what I like about it is I can only give each of those agents one thing to do at a
time. And I've noticed, I don't know, Chris, do you, do you use Grockbot at all? I never have,
but I want to. Whoa. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So yesterday I set up a second Grockbot account.
It's cheaper now. And I was like, I just want to try this. It's been doing some great stuff.
You know, I tweeted some of it. Like, it's helping me schedule junk pickups, helping me like find
tea times, find cheap wizards tickets, a bunch of cool stuff like that. But I've got freaking,
I've got 20 bots and everything I think that I can do, I can do with Grockbot.
And so that's the problem.
I sit texting Grockpot all day.
And that happens even worse, I think, to people and tools like chat GPT or Claude because
of how projects are set up and how threads are set up.
And so all that is to say, Grockbot makes you very mission focused.
But if you're using it for everyday life stuff, I don't think you're going to get like the
max potential.
I don't think it's going to click for you.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Like, for instance, right now I need to rent like a pump to get the water out of my pond.
And I'm, I need to browse Facebook marketplace for skid steers.
Like there's so many things on my to do list right now.
You don't think it would be good for that or like good.
It's not like using its full potential for stuff like that.
No, it is.
I mean, it is good for that.
I guess I just think if you're going to be using something that's so, like, it's mission
focus.
It wants to, it wants to ship.
It wants to build stuff.
Like, I think that's what you should be using it for.
Yeah, it's built for builders, not to be like a personal assistant, you're saying.
Yeah, yeah.
The reason why I like it is it just really clicked because A, it's a mission or and it's built for builders.
And B, because I told myself, hey, you're going to use this just for the newsletter and to grow the revenue of the newsletter.
You're not going to add a bunch of agents to do your taxes and take your dog for a walk and stuff.
And that's just, I've made more progress on this newsletter in the last, you know, two weeks than I did in three months.
And so, yeah, I said this the other day, my intern left because he got a different job.
And I replaced an intern, which is something I couldn't do for two months.
I couldn't automate it with Codex, couldn't automate it with Notion.
Brockbot took over almost immediately, like in 48 hours.
It was doing stuff that I couldn't set up.
I just want to take two things you just spoke about and kind of put them together.
So you talked about your intern left, so you replace it with Grockbot.
Is it safe to say, like, instead of saying, you know, it's best to use Grockbot as X, Y, or Z.
It's best for builders.
Replace Grockbot with the word intern.
Like, let's say whoever's listening to this has never had an intern or a personal assistant or whatever in their life.
What you're saying is that that amazing PhD level helper, it's best to point them at one thing.
Because you don't want to get a new employee and say, try this.
Can you do this?
Can you go get my coffee?
They're like, whoa, coffee.
I thought we're doing Facebook ads, right?
It's like the same principle as hiring a human.
Focus them.
Have them doing one thing or working on one project at least.
Is that accurate?
I think that's exactly it.
Yeah.
Can you share your screen and show kind of what tasks it's doing to grow your newsletter?
So we could see like how it works, how you talk to it.
Okay.
So if you've never seen Rockbot before, this is one of the things that makes it great.
It doesn't look like chat GPT.
It looks like Apple, I'm at.
Yeah, or Telegram or Discord, whatever.
Yeah.
And so you have each of your agents here, and I've got a chief of staff one.
That's the one I started with.
And basically, I connected him to my Google Drive and my notion where I already had a bunch
of documentation and plans and work documents for this newsletter.
And I said, go through and read and reread everything.
And then tell me, what are the first three agents you would build to get the ball rolling
replacing this intern. Okay. So you're saying like, hey, give me ideas on how I can use you.
Correct. Yeah. But within reason, right? You see how I'm like, let's start with three agents.
And so the first three that it built, you might be wondering, it was the researcher, the Beehive
experts, and the bagel brand, because we also were kind of doing a rebrand. And if you don't
understand, it's okay. It's confusing. This is a newsletter about local events and food.
I called it the Arlington bagel because it was breakfast time that we were sending it out,
and I thought it would be funny just to associate it with breakfast.
Okay.
And Arlington, Virginia.
And so the top line, chief of staff, that's like the bot that runs all the other bots.
And then everything below it are agents that are running concurrently or could be running concurrently
that Grockbot is creating to do all these tasks.
Is that right?
Yeah, correct.
So you have to ask it and it won't create one of these without you telling it.
To my knowledge, it hasn't done that.
So they have their own computer,
but the cool thing is that all the agents share it.
So if you've saved passwords in there
or installed something in the terminal,
they can all use that tool.
If you've got documents, right,
so instead of them all having to go into a Notion
or Google Drive every time,
they can just store stuff on their own computer and folders.
They can also access your computer too.
So how I like to think it,
if all this is sounding crazy,
Like, now I've got two computers to worry about, I think let them do what they naturally do
and work on work product on their computer.
And then when it's done, when it's done, they put that deliverable either in your chat
or in Google Drive and send you a link.
That way that's not like, all right, work on my computer a little bit, then go take this
and work on yours.
And if you have them work in the cloud, if you have them do tasks on their computer, which
they will do by default, then they can work on it even when your laptop's closed, which is the
cool.
thing. Would you worry about security at all for this? Like, do you have your credit card uploaded?
I do, but that's one of the other great things about the way I set this up. They can only mess up
my Arlington Bagel specific Gmail and the credit card with a $200 limit that I set up for them.
They don't have, they don't have my personal card. They don't have, you know, my Gmail with pictures
of my ID in it because I specifically firewalled it. Gotcha. Are you using Mercury? I am. Okay. So we're
Mercury, it's like you create a digital card, daily spending limit, total spending limit,
give the card to it, and it will make decisions using that.
Yeah.
And they get a little weird about you.
They don't like when you put in information like that.
So I think what I'll do is the officially supported plugin.
This is a pro tip is Stripe Link, which I think requires a stripe account.
And you can just put money in and it's like a debit card, but it'll use less tokens.
and the agents will like it
because it's like a native connectors.
There's a big marketplace here of plugins.
And the other thing, it's just a little thing
that makes me really happy is you can go click add on all of them
and then you don't have to go to authentication.
The first time the bot asked to use it,
then you can do the authentication or put the API key in.
So you can get everything set up
without getting slowed down
that like the first time when you're getting everything ready.
Okay.
Can you tell it what models to use for certain tasks?
No, that's something that people I think are asking about and that they might add in at some point.
I know a lot of people are, another thing they're doing is logging into clog code or codex on the on the Grockbot's computer and being like, okay, use clog code code to build this for me or to do these tasks.
And I don't know that, I really don't know that anyone watching this needs that.
I think those are for like the hardcore.
I'm building 20 different apps.
and I'm maintaining an enterprise level software.
So you could do that.
Okay.
So give me some example.
So what does Bagel Outbound do?
Yeah.
So Outbound right now, I think I have to click in.
I've never talked to Outbound directly.
I actually see, oh, every week the chief of staff,
actually I told it what to do and I haven't checked in.
That's good news that nothing's broken.
Every week, the Chief of Staff works with the Bagel Outbound.
And instead of, this is another way about thinking about AI that I think will help people.
not burnout, not be like, this is impossible.
And it's chunking work like this.
So instead of boiling the ocean and telling bagel outbound,
you know, make me a list of every business in Arlington
and get me their phone number and their email.
Instead, I'm just like every week.
Let's focus on five.
Maybe it's five that we've mentioned or five that follow us on Instagram.
And let's get their information and let's prep a custom package
with what an ad would look like and send it to them.
So just kind of chunking that work.
And it also, I think, feeds the agent better context and helps it iterate better because
instead of it doing something wrong a hundred ways, it's only going to do something wrong
five ways, and then I can correct it.
I can't review 100 different ad packages.
So that's kind of how I've thought about setting up this outbound.
Has Grockbot found new subscribers for you yet or any?
any sponsors for you.
What has it,
what have been the most impressive things
that it's done for your newsletter?
The most impressive was it found an old email
in my Gmail that I had missed
from like a month and a half ago
that led to a,
led to us going into this guy's business
and meeting him
and now we're putting together
an ad package for him
and figuring out
the sponsorship.
So the outbound,
I'm not quite, I haven't, this is like a month old.
I haven't really been sending out.
I've been kind of being like, let it work, build the list, and make better ad copy.
But it's handling all the emails with readers and current and previous sponsors.
And it's done a great job.
What are some best practices for using it?
Like, you already said a few of them, you want to chunk it up.
You don't ask it to too many things.
Try to have it focus on one thing.
Anything else like on how you should prompt it, talk to it, or what plugins or connect
like you just can't live without?
So here's another best practice, I think.
I have an age in that its only job is to know about how Beehive works and specifically
like how our Beehive works.
Beehive is where we send the newsletter.
It's got all our stats.
It's where we put in ads and stuff too.
So it's really important.
And I pretty much just told the chief of staff, I was like, hey, can you firehose this
guy with the Beehive docks?
and teach it what it needs to know.
And any time we have a question about stats and beehive or laying something out or how should this work, it goes to this guy and it works.
You just have a beehive guy.
It's like a real office, right?
You have an Excel guy.
What other types of guys are there?
An ads guy?
SEO guy.
Ads guy.
SEO guy.
What businesses or ideas do you have that are tempting you with Grockbot right now that you haven't chased yet?
I, well, anything, anything with code, I noticed I just had it make a,
just simple, let me see if I can show you this.
I did this.
I did, and again, this is an example of tinkering and not working on a real monetized
project that I warned you guys got to do.
But I was sitting on the beach in Nag's Head and wanted a way to kind of remember
trips like this.
So I gave it GitHub and Cloudflare and got it logged in.
And now it can just create.
static sites for me. So every time I go on a trip, I text it some pictures. And when I was there and
where, and it looks way better on mobile. I've never seen it on desktop. But it's like a little
scrollable, like magazine with a, it picks a cover photo and which ones it likes and lays it out
to be artsy. That's really cool. And so something like this, what I would do was I wouldn't sell a
bunch of junk websites like this. I think I would want to help someone customize landing page.
for their leads.
So people who are in sales, like, well, for example, I was talking,
I was buying season ticket package for the Wizards the other day.
Go Wizards.
And the way they were showing, like, the packages and where the seats were,
was kind of archaic.
But they had all the information.
And I was like, man, like, I think you could sell so many more of these.
If you just made a, like, Billy, like, here's the seats you could have.
And here's why we picked them because Chris, like you and I, we know we can make anything exist with code.
But most people out there don't.
And I think with Grockbot, you could teach people to do that in a way that makes sense to them.
Just like using I message.
So teach them how to set up so that they can go in a Grockbot and be like, okay, I got this guy, Billy, he wants to buy tickets.
You've got a list.
You've got a spreadsheet.
You've got pictures.
Make them a quick site.
Use my GitHub and Cloudflare.
and I can show it to him during our sales call.
And that's, I mean, that's applicable to anyone that does sales.
And I think you could do that with anything.
You know, you could do the same thing with helping people manage Shopify's.
You could say, okay, we're going to go in.
And you could do it for them, right?
So you could start with your agents, do like a done for you.
And so I've got my bagel shop bot.
And I could be like, okay, bagel shop bots, jacked in.
to your Shopify, it's going to find, you know, your average, it's going to analyze your average
card value, like your chargebacks, all this stuff that you didn't know, and then make a report,
and then we'll get you set up so that you can just have this run on a routine with your own
shopbot every week. But you could just do it as a service too. And what I would do is
you can actually start, you can do sections, so you can segment out like by client. And
I think they're adding in a team's thing.
I haven't been able to figure out how to do it, but I read something from someone at
SpaceX, so it could be like, it's exactly for this agency use case.
So say you have a team of five, and they're all cracked at optimizing Shopify.
Well, you could use that team on Chris's croissants, right, client, and then you could have
that same team on a different project.
So I think they're kind of going where I'm thinking on this, which is setting up Brockbot
agent teams and then using them on different small businesses.
Hmm.
Okay.
What, so you got what, perplexity computer, Claude Co-work, Maness.
What would you say makes Grockbot different from everything else out there that might
be similar?
Well, it's, one, it's got GROC, which feels like the most unneutored AI agent right now,
which, yeah, I think it's just gotten worse and worse.
Grock has or the others have?
Well, I think I've just noticed the others doing a lot of like the, what do they call?
Like the text watermarking.
Like, they will not write stuff in my voice that they used to.
Yeah.
And Grockbot is, like I said, very mission and like solution oriented.
So I like have to stop it.
I was like, you know, I was asking.
I was like, hey, can you look into like the pricing for someone to come pick up some junk from my house?
And it was like, okay, it's this much money.
I'm going to go fill it out for tomorrow at 1 p.m.
And I was like, well, like, hang on.
Yeah.
Let me ask my wife first.
Yeah.
And the other ones are way more, like, safety.
They have more safetyism baked in about, are you absolutely sure?
And you're like, yes.
And then it'll go and be like, well, I wasn't sure.
So I needed, I wanted to make sure with you.
It's kind of like how like a new intern might act.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know.
So it's got a, it's got a bias for action.
Crockbot.
It just does stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, you can tell that it's people like SpaceX people working on this.
And it reminds me very much of interacting with like SpaceX and Tesla people.
The interface is super simple.
These little icons here are some of the secret sauce, I think, because they're so easy to recognize.
And then a lot of other agents, it's either just this gray box with a name or some crazy AI generated thing.
So this just helps you save so much time finding, oh, there's my research bot, it's my bagel sales bot.
On mobile, it's the best, I think, for virtual computer.
The way this computer pops out on your phone so you can see what it's doing, it's just really easy to use.
The mobile app is not an afterthought, which I think it's kind of slapped on to a lot of other existing products.
I haven't done, teach a task yet, but you can record.
Yeah, yeah.
So you can record yourself doing a task.
I guess that would be like if you're just like automating something.
Have you ever tried, do you use Replit?
Like what's your, what's your, what's your, I love Replit.
Okay.
Replet.
See, I've got, you know, dozens of replet projects in the works.
And the most time consuming part of Replit is prompt, reprompt, fix, fix this, not this.
No, you didn't do it right back and forth, back and forth, the last mile.
Have you ever thought of either starting from scratch with Grockbot via replet or having
Grockbot go into your replet to an old project and saying, this is what I want.
It needs to work.
Like, it needs to work as if you.
you're a user. Here's my credit card number. Go through the whole process. Make sure that the product
works. Sign up flow works. Keep testing over and over and over. Look at the actual code and like just
keep tweaking it until it's a fully functional product. Have you ever tried using it for that?
Yeah. You're talking about like the last 20% of. Yeah, which is a harder than the first 80%. Yeah.
I have thought about that because I have so many replet things that are stuck at 80%. But I, no, I hadn't
thought of doing that with Grockbot.
I more so wanted to use Grockbot to go into my replet and be like, here's where all these projects stand.
Here's like what the issues are.
Here's where they're deployed.
That'd be amazing.
So I kind of lose track of that.
Because I built this tool that it makes it easy for people to easily create and send liability waivers.
Think DocuSign, but only for simple liability waivers.
And it just, you can create a link easily.
You can send it out to tons of people easily.
And then you can store the signed waivers in your account easily.
But there's just a lot of moving parts.
It's like pricing and the stripe integration wasn't working.
And then like the actual product of filling out the form, making sure it worked, the email,
resend API, everything.
It would just be so nice to say like, it just needs to freaking work.
It just needs to work.
Keep playing with it and fixing it in Replit.
Keep prompting Replit until it fully works as it's supposed to.
Here's my vision.
Get it there.
I want to try that.
I think I could do that.
I think I'll try that.
Yeah.
I think if you wanted an idea of something that would really help like business owners is
social media like ideation and management um i have so many friends that need help just with content
calendar stuff and things like defining like their their social brand and their uh their content pillars
right i think rock bot would be great for that it's helped me kind of define and set up templates
so that i like don't have an excuse not to post on this newsletter and they're not like perfect
or amazing but the thing has to exist first yeah and then you can tweet
it and play with it. And I really want to get it on video editing. I have an inkling. If I can teach
it some of the stuff that like I've done with codex on video editing, I could do complete in the
cloud. My laptop doesn't need to be open. Drop a video file. Okay, Grockbach, come in, grab that,
cut out dead hair, add transitions. I think I could get it to do that really well.
And yeah, yeah. In the one other thing, I'm just going, I'm rolling here. The one other thing
that I've been dying to do, I thought of my answer, or your earlier question,
what would I do?
What have I been itching to do with Brockbot that I haven't done yet?
And that is I just want to give it a Shopify and a credit card and an idea and start it from
scratch and say go.
Facebook ads, do everything.
Yep.
It's really good at finding out what integrations to use.
And it'll pop up like in here like, hey, there's not an official integration, but you can put an API
key in here, kind of like what Brepplet started doing first.
And so I have been idioting.
I've had like three Shopify store ideas.
One is college themed game day cowboy boots, which is really, I maybe probably people
not in the South don't know that that's a big thing right now.
Oh, yeah.
And so that, I mean, I was so, I just, I went back for a game day and I was like, I never thought
I'd see people in Charlottesville wearing cowboy boots on a game.
Yeah.
But they don't have logos on them and every SEC school does.
Oh, yeah.
So that's one idea.
And then another one is, I love this.
Like, I don't know.
Does your wife or like your wife, friend ever talk about, like, products they see on Instagram?
Whenever they say, whenever they mention a product that was a really good ad or that they bought, it like, it just sears into my brain and I write it down.
And so one is like these like, I don't know, it's like the water bottle thing.
You know, every year there's a new water bottle.
Well, so now there's a blanket, some blanket that girls love.
And the name is escaping me.
but it's $200 blanket.
Or Minky Keter or are they from Utah?
Utah is like the blanket capital of the world.
Is it?
Yeah.
Wait, let me pull up my, I've got it on my phone.
When you drive down I-15 in Utah, I'm not exaggerating.
Every other billboard is a blanket billboard.
Really?
It's the most random thing.
Oh, well, anyway, maybe we should, because blanket was the one I decided I wanted to go with.
Maybe I should go to Utah and get blankets.
It's called Lola.
Oh, yeah.
Minky, Kater, and Lola.
Those are like the two.
That's like the Coke and Pepsi of blankets in Utah.
Okay.
Expanding outside of Utah.
They're like really soft and plush and.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a killer.
It's such a great product just to have.
You can give it as gifts and I like it.
And then the other one was, it's random.
I'm really into like Terrycloth clothes recently.
Like we went to this beach wedding and I bought a bunch and I was like, this is great.
I want to make a brand that's like this.
Or at least like,
start with TOWs, start with like one hero product.
And so I went into Grockbot and I created a sourcing bot.
And I was like, your job is to research these three ideas and use import Yeti to try to look at
these brands that I like and then write me a memo on each brand and what you think a good
price point is, which you think you could get the cost to realistically.
And what kind of hero products you would do.
And then pull that all together and give me like, which product?
out of these three ideas, which you go for.
And I made sure to be like, do two rounds of adversarial review with,
there's like a different bot in here.
I think chief of staff are used so that you get real feedback and they would find
things like, oh, like that supplier's website 404s.
So get out all the stupid AI stuff that you usually run into.
And it did like, I think the best research of any bot I've ever used to do like product
research. It was pretty amazing. I'm kind of obsessed with this idea of having it just run to the
Shopify store because what is the Shopify store? It is designing a site, aka picking a template or a
theme. There's tons to choose from. You can buy one and you get one for free. It is Facebook ads,
right? It can do that. It can make creative. It is going to the Facebook ad library to see what
comparable brands are doing well. It is Google ads. I'm sure it can do that just fine. It is
sourcing products. You can drop ship them or you can actually source them. It can do that.
and go to Alibaba,
Ali Express, whatever.
It can do competitive research.
It's a slick brand,
good design.
It can do that.
Like what?
Well, Shopify is like AI first.
That's the other great thing.
Building in Shopify,
I think,
is a good idea
because the agent can do a lot of,
most of the store stuff
from the terminal
and can build you a custom store
using the Shopify developer package.
And I think what you do it once,
you could scale.
I think you could stack different stores fairly easily once you get all those pipelines
flowing.
I mean,
like I got my Shopify bot set up for the Arlington Bagel the other day.
And I don't want to scroll up in like docs,
but someone wanted a return.
And it immediately went in and was like,
hey,
we've got this overdue return that you didn't notice.
I wrote an email for someone.
You just need to confirm that you want me and I'll process this return and I'll email them.
and it's just like a fish in water.
Yeah.
Man,
that is cool.
All right.
And I also,
the other reason I'm crazy about this is I think with the cost of developing software going to zero,
there's something about building something in the real world that I think is worth doing
and that you still could have like an edge in.
Yeah.
Anything you see on Twitter that people are getting wrong about Grogbot?
Yeah, everything.
Everything.
Let's hear it.
I just, I know I'm fixated on this, but I want people watching to take this away.
It's like, this is an amazing opportunity.
You're getting, this is a new product.
It works great.
You're getting probably $10,000 worth of tokens for whatever your subscription, $100, $200,
subscription, doesn't matter.
Use it to make money.
Stop, stop organizing your Gmail.
I fall into this trap.
Stop organizing your Gmail for the sixth time.
Yeah.
You can use it to triage some, but like, that's not going.
going to change your life or how you work with AI is doing that same thing.
Use this as an excuse to take an idea that you've had seriously and explore it because
that's the best one that I found at exploring ideas and then going to market.
So everything that I see on Twitter is like, whoa, I just had Rockbot make this knowledge
graph and it called my dad and this and that.
I don't know.
I think people are getting...
It's the advanced forms of procrastination.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just get frustrated that, I don't know, that a lot of people put the same kind of
tasks.
It is funny because, like, long before AI, long before these agents, doing the thing, like
selling the thing, starting the thing, was always the hard and the scary part.
And so we always did market research and talk to people about our idea and got an LLC
because that felt like we were making progress when you're not actually making progress.
Making progress is selling something.
And it, you would think, you would.
would hope that like having an agent do you do it for you takes that fear away but it's really the
same you're just transferring that fear to the agent you know and i and i still do it chris i did i
i did it earlier when i was like well i've had this outbound thing running for a week and i haven't said go on it
i should say go and then if the people are like this sounds like ai i could be like okay sorry i had an
i i mean instead of tweaking and tweaking and um i don't think you need a lot i don't think
you need to customize. I don't think you need to make 80 different agents and have them ingest a
bunch of stuff. I think they're just good to go. I think they know what to do. Yeah. If someone is
brand new to Grockbot and they want to use it to build something, like you're saying,
what's like a good first step or an agent that can get someone to revenue? Well, I mean,
this is probably second nature for a lot of people listening, but you just have to nail what
your value prop is and what your offer is. And Grogon,
Brockbot's really good at that.
Do what I said like with those products and be like, what do you think we can get the cost
to on this?
What do you think the price point is?
What's our hero product?
So even if you're selling consulting or services, have Grockbot do chief of staff and say,
I want to sell gutter cleaning.
Okay, what's my hero product?
Oh, it's a summer, end of summer, gutter clean or spring refresh or whatever.
I think Grockbot says, I think you could price it at this price point, this
price point or this price point. I think you could hire someone based on where you live. This is the going
rates. Here's what I think you would would spend on a website and then build the website based on that
offer. So I think nail the offer first with Grockbot and then build three agents that monitor like
your inbox and your website. And that's all you need, right? You need a Google sheet and Gmail to sell
anything, right? So you can teach Brockbot to sell with just email and a Google sheet.
Just get that offer nailed down.
Billy, this has been amazing. Where can we find you if we want to learn more about Billy?
I've got a great YouTube channel, Billy J. Howell and then Twitter.
Billy J. Howell on Twitter, follow me there. I've got some free resources that I'll probably
put back in my bio so that you guys can get some help with like prompting and vibe coding.
And please go, go do what I said.
Go, go take that idea or that offer and go talk about it with Krocbought and build a three agent team and run it for a week and make your first sale and then tag me on Twitter.
That's, or DM me on Twitter.
That's what I love.
I love when people DME.
Yeah, I don't need anything else from you crazy people.
Yeah.
Billy, thank you.
Thanks, Chris.
Pleasure.
Okay.
Now I'm going to try Krocbought for myself and build an app.
And if you're listening to this on audio only, I walk you through all the steps.
It's a little better on video if you want you on Spotify or in a few days.
It'll be live on YouTube, but you still get the gist of it on audio only.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
Okay.
So I just got out of the massage.
And during the massage, I of course didn't have my phone.
So I, of course, was able to think.
And I was thinking about Grockbot, believe it or not.
And I was wondering what it could do.
I've never used Grockbot before.
This is not sponsored by Grockpot.
This is just me wanting to try the new AI thing.
So Grockbot is an agentic AI tool.
In other words, it's an AI tool that goes out and actually does stuff for you.
and not just returns answers to you.
So some of my best videos have been the ones where I'm out and about doing something.
I get a business idea.
And then instead of just building it, I build it on screen.
So that's what this is going to be today.
I'm downloading Grockbot for the first time ever.
Here's the business idea that I had.
So I want to build a product that does not exist.
I want to build it for myself because I think this will help me be more productive.
But I think I could also sell it.
I could sell access to it.
I think other people would find productive.
So you've maybe heard of the concept of time boxing, right?
A lot of successful people, time box.
they literally go to their calendar and say, you know, 7 a.m. to 8 a.m. Meditation, 8 a.m. to 9 a.m.
emails, 9 a.m. they schedule and plan out their entire day so they're more productive. Not my thing. But it's hard for me to be accountable to a calendar event that no other human is a part of, right?
Whereas if I put money into something, I will be accountable to it. I will do that thing. But that's not what this idea is.
My idea is to lock me out of my inbox for the majority of the day. So I have to get caught up on my emails.
in a specific time frame. So it's like forced timeboxing, right, as opposed to like,
I put it in my calendar, so now I'm going to do it. No, you won't. I won't. You won't. So
originally this was going to be an app that locked everything on my computer except for my mail app or
Gmail.com. That way, while working during the workday, I was forced to get caught up on my emails
during that time. I couldn't get distracted, browse Twitter, whatever. But I don't really like that. So instead,
I'm going to do the opposite. And I'm going to lock down gmail.com and my mail app for
90 plus percent of the time, 95 plus percent of the time. On some days, it will be completely locked,
like on the weekend, so I don't work. But during the week, it will be unlocked. It will be usable
until like 10 a.m. That way, I will feel pressure to get caught up on my emails because that's
something that I struggle to do. That way, I have to finish my emails until 10 or else I won't
get another shot until the next day. I think that pressure will force me to be more productive. And I can
use this app for other things, not just email, but for making sure that I just do what I need to do on
computer like it will literally block certain websites or certain apps so either i have to stay in there
or i can only use it for a defined period of time so i could vibe code this but i want grokbot to vibe
code it for me because i just had this conversation with billy and he's a grokbot expert and he said he's never
tried it he's never had grokbot going to wrap up for him prompt it for him and then fix it test the
website test the software look at the code test it back and forth because that's the hardest and most tedious
part of vibe coding something is getting it to being perfect or close to the
enough to perfect to sell the thing or to use the thing yourself. So that's what I'm going to do here.
Okay, I'm installing Grockbot. Okay. Okay. All right. It wants me to connect a bunch of stuff.
I don't want it to do a bunch of stuff. Billy said, my friend Billy said that you want to treat
Grockpot like an employee, right? A good boss, and I'm not saying I'm good to boss because I'm not very
good at doing this. A good boss does not tell an employee, do this, now try this. Do this, do this, do this,
try this work project, work on that project. I do that. It's not good. A good boss says, this is your
job. Just do this. Just focus on this. That's what I'm going to do here. So I'm not going to connect
it to any of this stuff. Okay. Now I'm going to go into Claude and I want Claude to know what I'm doing.
All right, here's my prompt. I'm going to use Grockbot to code an app for me that I can use myself and
eventually sell. I want to prompt Grockpot to go into my Replit account to build this for me,
not just build, test fix, build test fix over and over until it's ready. The app needs to allow me
to open windows of time where my Macmail app plus gmail.com is only accessible from
5 a.m. to 10 a.m. every day of the week. Outside of those hours, I cannot visit either Gmail
inside my arc slash curl browser or even open my mail app. This is intended to force me to get to
inbox zero every morning since this will be my only opportunity. I can unlock this lock with a password,
but ideally only my wife knows this. I guess it needs to function like a Mac app or a Chrome extension
or both. But Crockbot needs to first build a workable version of this that I can use for myself
and ultimately build a website and sell this app as a SaaS on this website using my strike baby,
and anything else it needs.
Brought a beautiful prompt that is Grogbot friendly using all the technical coding terms I know
nothing about so I can just build this with as little intervention for me as possible.
It is okay to approve any and all Rapplet overages and charges without my approval,
not exceeding $100 a day.
I really don't want to mess with this.
Grockbot needs to keep testing the app for bugs and asking Rapplet to fix it over and over go.
Okay.
Pushback from Claude.
The blocker has to Lill on your Mac.
Yes, Replit builds web apps.
A website can never force quit your mail app.
So the real build is a Mac menu bar app plus a browser extension.
Two things an AI agent physically cannot do for you.
Create your Apple developer account and your Chrome Web Store dev account.
Budget 20 minutes total for those.
Test the habit first for $0.
It is structured in phases with an autonomous build test.
Okay.
So I don't know what any of this stuff means, but I'm going to try it.
We're going to copy it.
We're going to go back to Grockbot.
Claude named it Morning Lock.
So we'll just, we'll go with that even though I don't like it.
Okay.
There's the prompt.
Okay.
So it's working.
Ask me for anything you need so I can walk away and be
confident you can work uninterrupted credit card number logins etc okay we're going to authorize
stripe we're going to go back to stripe test mode authorize rescind okay that was very easy so it's going to do
gethub and replet next okay i'm not 100% that i'm seeing what i think i'm seeing but it looks like extension
test that means chrome extension i think it's it's already building this thing in the background and
it just tested 23 different things and all of them were green so that's kind of
wild. GitHub. Okay, so it says open that, sign that device, continue, authorize. Okay, GitHub is ready.
It's already done. What the crap. Is it already done? They just put the thing in my downloads.
It's right there. Okay. Mac menu bar app is. Okay, so it just built a Chrome extension.
Okay. Open Chrome, colon slash slash extensions. Okay, there it is. Okay. Those are all the domains that's going to block.
Okay, there's the accountability password.
Confirm and start.
It already works.
Oh my gosh, guys.
I've only been recording this.
You're seeing the edited version,
but it's only been recording for 31 minutes and 37 seconds.
And it's done.
And then I can change the settings.
It's locked right now.
Oh, yeah.
Of course it's locked.
Yeah, because it's supposed to be locked.
Oh my gosh.
It works.
That's crazy.
But let's say, you know, today is Friday at 4.34 p.m.
So we're going to say it should be unlocked on Friday.
until 10 p.m. today. Save schedule. Okay. Now go to Gmail and it works. Change it back.
Save schedule. Go back to Gmail and it's locked. Okay. That's amazing. Look and I have this tweet
pulled up right here. I was going to like live tweet this but I didn't have time to hit tweet.
How's the Mac app coming? Need my Replet login? Glad it's sticking. Check the Mac app.
Ooh, what if I had Grok Bot go into my Replit account and finish?
All of the projects that I have like 90% finished.
Spelled got it wrong, whatever.
All right, we're good.
It's signed into Replet.
It's signed into GitHub for me.
GitHub is a place where you can store code.
Okay, it's Pizza Night.
So I got to step away for a minute.
I'll be right back.
Guys, I did it.
We did it.
Together.
We have a sellable product here.
It's done.
I want to show you something real quick.
Okay, right here.
Okay.
So look what?
happens. When I click this little lock icon up here on my Mac, I think you can see that. This pops up.
And I added some more features off camera because I couldn't help myself. And now it does all kinds of
other things. So unlocks my mail. But then, in addition, the Chrome extension right here.
Okay. Look at this. It pulled in my most visited websites. That was one prompt. And I can block all of them.
I can block none of them. I can block all but one. So, hey, stop looking at YouTube studio.
And this could be embarrassing, right? You can see everything I look at here. There's no editing here.
RV rental websites, whatever. I can block all of these, none of these, so I can lock in.
And then I can even send my password to a spouse, a loved one, whatever. So they have to be the one to unlock it for me.
So I didn't tell it how to look, what colors to use, what the user interface should look like.
It just built this for me. Freaking incredible.
And it works and I'm using it.
Now I need to sell it.
That's going to be on part two.
So stick around.
And look, here are my prompts here.
It wasn't that long.
It didn't take that long.
Can you have it list out all the most commonly used apps and websites on that computer and browse
er to make it easier for the user to block ones they struggle with?
Boom, done.
The icon doesn't work.
Boom.
Fix.
Cool.
Everything works.
So I don't know if this is clear or not, but this is not a sponsored video for
Grockpot.
Nobody paid me to post this video.
I just think this is transformative and you can profit from it.
So please enjoy.
share with a friend and we'll see you next time on the corner office
