The Kristian Harloff Show - $183 MILLION?! Lilo & Stitch DOMINATES Memorial Day Weekend! - The Kristian Harloff Show

Starting point is 00:00:00 Man, what a weekend for Lilo and Stitch coming in at almost 200 million domestic. Is this movie going to make a billion dollars? I said it could get close. We're going to talk about that and how did Mission Impossible do that and more on the show here today on this Monday. Happy Memorial Day, everybody. Let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the show here on Monday. Joining me on the show every Monday.

Starting point is 00:00:34 Ladies and gentlemen, John Roker is in there. What's up, Roker? How are you? What's up, brother? Look at the new set. Have you not seen it yet? I've not seen it. Oh, right.

Starting point is 00:00:42 You're out last week. You were out of you. It looks good, right? It looks fantastic. It looks really good. So I'm excited about that. But I'm also excited for us to talk about these numbers. How about Lilo and Stitch, man?

Starting point is 00:00:52 I mean, come on now. I mean, holy, what a number it did. And I don't even know what it wound up doing yesterday. Or what it's going to wind up doing today, rather. Yeah. Because it's still, you know, everybody has off today. So rather than cannibalizing each other, Disney's live action, Leelow Stitch.

Starting point is 00:01:08 Mission of Possible Final Recording have both taken the box office by storm. The result is now the best. I heard that grunt and I think I'm sharing that with you. The result is the best Memorial Day weekend ever at the domestic box office with all movies grossing over 322 million, beating the previous record of 314 million set in 2013. Disney is the king with Lilo and Stitch, grossing 56.3 through the first three days overseas, while domestically, it has gone way past expectations up to 142 to 1.4. 144 for the three-day and headed towards a 175 to 180 million for the four-day. Over at Paramount, Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning is doing the franchise proud with the film domestically tracking for 63 million three-day at a 77 million four-day opening weekend hall, beating the 61 million start of Mission Impossible Fallout. Overseas numbers are trickier because the film opened last Saturday in multiple markets.

Starting point is 00:02:02 Thus, its overseas grosses up to 75.9 million through Friday. rounding out the domestic top five are final destination bloodlines thunderbolts sinners which all score 24 million 11.5 million and 11 million respectively for the four day holiday so if you're bringing up again box office mojo here lelo and stitch at 145 mission pops 63 19.7 if let's see leo and stitch thus far just already has now grossed 341 million over just this weekend alone so Yeah, this is big news for Lilo and Stitch. Yeah, yeah, massive. Look, they're the top seller of merchandise, so one of the top sellers of merchandise over on the Disney side of thing. So there's a lot of love for this franchise, a lot of love for this adaptation.

Starting point is 00:02:52 And I thought it was a fun movie. You know, is it gangbusters and great and really well written all of that? No, but it's very, very enjoyable. I thought it was a good live action adaptation. I'm not an addict to the animated film. so I went in kind of cold to see this movie and thoroughly enjoy it. So I'm not surprised because there's already such a massive built-in fan base for Lilo and Stitch that it did so well.

Starting point is 00:03:16 And look, look at how much that Lion King movie made $1.6 billion. And it didn't do, oh, Lion King. Mufasa, even though it didn't start strong, can't make money. John, I've said it a million times. There is nothing as a dad. There is nothing for kids to see in the theater right now. Yep. And Minecraft was the last thing. And with all the craziness that was going on there still, and that movie still almost made a billion dollars, there's nothing that families can go and see. This is something families can go and see. Sam, who never goes to the movies, was like, I'm taking my daughter to go see Lilo and Stitch with her daughter. They went to go see Lilo and Stitch with her daughter. They went because her daughter grew up with the movie. I was with you. I had never actually seen the original. Oh, okay. And I wanted to go in fresh, not knowing. I liked the movie.

Starting point is 00:04:04 A lot of those. I was warm with the little girl was fantastic. Yes, it was. Yeah, I just watched the original. I put the reaction to the movie up today, actually, with Tina, she had never seen it either. There was a lot of things that I liked that they changed.

Starting point is 00:04:19 There was a lot of, or added, I should say. There are some things that they, like, I think that, are you familiar, pretty familiar with both? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Gallif and Accus stuff, what they did with the character, I wish they would have kept what they did with them in the origin.

Starting point is 00:04:31 Right, right. I think it worked better. But either way, I really liked what they did overall. That was one of the best adaptations they probably have done. Yeah. Especially coming off of the disaster, that was Snow White overall, what Snow White did. Disney's got to be pretty happy right now. I think so.

Starting point is 00:04:49 And, you know, they're at a position now. I think they've already crossed a certain amount here overall for the year. I think they're ahead now, box office-wise. So that's another positive for the box office numbers. and then you throw in the Mission Impossible stuff. I mean, a lot of people, I know the critics liked it, but there was some mixed reviews online, some very ardent critics who were not liking it at all.

Starting point is 00:05:12 But the fact that it overcame all of that to have the best opening weekend against a juggernaut, a best opening the franchise against a juggernaut like Lilo and Stitch. I think that speaks volumes about Mission Impossible as well. Now, will it hold on, will it have legs? I don't know. But Lilo and Stitch, clearly, that's a billion dollar movie. That's absolutely, might even buy the next two to three weeks before the July madness begins.

Starting point is 00:05:35 It will have probably crossed a cross to billion dollars. It's almost a 400 million already. Yeah. Almost 400. And after today what it's going to make. I think Mission Apostles is in trouble, to be honest. You mean overall? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:47 Yeah. This report, I think this report's misleading. Okay. I think the movie costs almost 400 million dollars to me. Yes. That's the difference with, did it do well for an opening? Yeah. If it's, if it's, you know, a budget of $150 million, it's a great weekend.

Starting point is 00:06:03 $400 million. And people are, well, you know, the reason why, I don't care about the reason why. The reason, all the reason why is it could make total sense. But it doesn't change the fact that it costs $400 million. Yeah. And when you have $400 million, you have to make at least $800 to break even. Yeah. So now, is mission impossible going to make $800 million with all this other stuff coming out?

Starting point is 00:06:25 It is not. There's, it's too long. There's no way. It's good. And it's not great. It's good. It's a fun movie to see in the movie theater, for sure. And I recommend the people, if you're going to see it, you should see it in the theater

Starting point is 00:06:39 because it is the reason you go to the movies. There's no doubt. But it's not that it's it's got problems coming up because the drop off in the next week. And then you have ballerina coming out. You have all these different movies that could compete with you. I mean, right now, again, let me do of what's coming out. out on the like the following week it's not going to the numbers of the numbers like you said lilo and stitch you're not going to have competition with karate kid legends it'll maybe chip a little

Starting point is 00:07:09 bit out of it i don't know man that that's already getting some destroyed i'm going to see it tomorrow you are yeah i'm waiting to wednesday because it comes out right by right down the street so it's closer to just go on wednesday yeah so maybe maybe i don't know kovir kai fans but it's to Mission Impossible. No, no. I wonder how How Train Your Dragon is going to do, which is on June 13th. Yes. Is that going to affect some of the little stitch numbers or something possible?

Starting point is 00:07:39 Yes, because that's another movie that's going to be, the family movies are going to be running the roost by June 13th. And I think it's even going to, because of that, it's going to start to shift Mission Impossible out of there even more so. Now, if it's just Lilo versus Mission Impossible, fine. But if it's how to train your dragon plus Lilo, those. Two movies are going to be running the box office. Right. And then once you get to June 20th, 28 years later, again, a couple chunks out of Mission Impossible.

Starting point is 00:08:08 June 27th, F1 will probably take some chunks out of it. So it's got, it has, and then it's dead in the water once Jurassic World shows up on July. Yeah, July, yeah. But it's got, it really has to make money, more money, and low drop-offs. Because look what happened to Thunderbolt. You and I both said, Thunderbolt, it's all about. week two week two is not good for thunderbolts right no matter how much made the name change it didn't do that well and do it 40 million

Starting point is 00:08:34 what is it made over 360 million so far and it cost almost 200 million dollars to make whatever too so it's probably going to be a loss but you know and then and they're they're done they're not gonna i mean they're not going to be able to to make any kind of come back now because we're in the we're in the thick of the summer season people already forgot about the movie yeah like it was run for two weeks and then people are like already moving on mentally yeah 100 percent so it's uh it's mission impossibly and and the length of the movie is going to hurt it because it's going hurt it in how many theaters want to keep it going and you know a sacrifice losing other movies and leon-stitch what's an hour 45 and out of it and that's another reason why it's it's

Starting point is 00:09:12 it's totally effective so um i don't think you know it doesn't affect tom cruise at all because it did it it's not a bad move the movie is the movie who's good and paramount's only on the hook for 50% of it so it's not like they're you know they're going to take a huge bath this one. I think there's a possibility that it could make four to five, maybe by the end of its run, pushing it. The mixed reviews, I think,

Starting point is 00:09:38 are going to eventually sink it to the point where it won't make what it should make. Do you like it? Yeah, I really did enjoy it, but I'm also a, you know, I'm wearing the hat. I'm also a mission impossible junkie. So I love this franchise. So for me, the film worked for me

Starting point is 00:09:54 as a good callback to the stuff that went in the past and then where we were going. I don't understand people will say it's a convoluted plot. It's not that difficult. Entity is an AI. He wants to stop the AI. I'm taking over the world. It's really simple. I just think it's a little too bloated, to be honest. Yeah, I don't disagree. You could have caught 15, 20 minutes out of that movie. I agree with you 100%. Yeah, it's bloated. And I think the thing, the same problem I had with the last mission impossible I have with this one. When you look at how clever three, four, five, and six are, this movie's not clever. It's just action stunts.

Starting point is 00:10:28 and it kind of just kind of goofs on itself at times, but it's not like, it's about, you go to the movie for the submarine scene and for the plane scene. That's why you go for those two scenes, and you will not be satisfied by those. But like, as far as clever, it's just not, I've been waiting for like, oh, let's get back to that. Okay, and then even the facing wasn't there as much too.

Starting point is 00:10:47 They always used it to goof. But either way, the movie still had a nice opening for what it was. It was like watching one of the old Star Trek films when they were like six. where it's like this is just let's hang out with everybody and have some fun yeah whereas like the earlier installments were much more mission possible much more tighter leaner and um more more intelligent in their approach okay so it's more hanging out with people you know it's hanging out people you know and big set pieces you know let's let's let's let's let's let's blow some stuff up let's uh you know you're

Starting point is 00:11:21 you're gonna watch tom cruise do some crazy shit it's team dynamic and it's a little it's it's kind of it's so far-fetched sometimes, but it's fun, far-fetched. And it is what it is. Now, the other stuff that came out that weekend, or I should say, or this weekend, as far as box office goes, then you get Final Destination. I literally, right before I stopped, before I started shooting with you, I just finished the reaction with Tina for Final Destination Five. Nice.

Starting point is 00:11:49 Yeah, that's a good one. I like Five. Yeah. Five's good. And we watched because I told the story and tell you, so Ellis and I learned our lesson. from that. Do you that what we did? We walked out.

Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah, we walked out. And, you know, it's funny when I was watching the end because I know that I knew the twist. I had, it's been, you know, 14 years, whatever. But I was trying to figure out, first of all, I didn't remember hardly any of the movie. I remember the gymnast thing. I don't remember any of the movie. And then when there was, there's one part that happens. And I'm like, I have 100% never seen this.

Starting point is 00:12:23 And I didn't realize how early we left. and then something happens at the very, very end that I was like, okay. But either way, that movie, Final Destination Bloodlines, $187 million so far. Yeah. What was, let's see, bloodlines. It's like the, I think it's the highest grossing already from the beginning, like the first couple of weekends, highest grossing thrown at the destination film.

Starting point is 00:12:48 The movie costs $50 million. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. It was on the screen. These aren't top-tier acting talent. Did you see Bloodlines? Yeah, I saw Bloodlines twice. Oh, really?

Starting point is 00:12:59 So you really like that? I like, that's my horror franchise. Oh, okay. Okay. Because I love the film. Okay, so you really liked it. Yeah, yeah, I liked the film.

Starting point is 00:13:07 I thought it was a good film. It was a good film. Not a great film. It had to be better than four. Four was terrible. Four, the Final Notice Nation is terrible. It's really bad. It's really bad.

Starting point is 00:13:17 This one worked, but like the opening is what's the best part of this movie and Tony Todd's cameo. Those are the parts of this movie. I think for me, some of the acting was a little middling, and it didn't quite get to where it wanted to get to. But the kills were so much fun, especially the hospital one. Oh, my. Don't tell you.

Starting point is 00:13:34 Don't tell me. Don't tell me. Okay. Well, listen, what do you guys think of the box office here? So let us know. Were you surprised that Lila and Stitch did the kind of money that it did? Do you think it'll make a billion dollars? Were you surprised that Mission Impossible didn't do more?

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Starting point is 00:17:31 the last of us part two game expected to be with the confrontation in the cinema between abbey and ellie complete with the sharp cut to black and gunshot noise speaking with polygon showrunners cragman and nil druckman said this always felt like the natural endpoint for the season others were considered but nothing stuck however that's not exactly the end as the lingering back fades into Abby walking up to the stadium, converted into the W.OF's home base with a title card that read Seattle Day 1. The scene signals next season's shift of narrative focus to reflect the back half of the game. Joles was the audience point of view in the first season and the second. Abby will be the third, with a good chunk of the next season recounting those three days from her perspective.

Starting point is 00:18:12 According to Holly Reporter, the show's creators have declined to explicitly confirm this during interviews, but Mazin pretty much does, as he explains, that the team is happy to shake up the rules and how a narrative can unfold on television in the way the game shook up the narrative rules in gaming. I don't think television is supposed to work like this. We're clearly breaking quite a few rules, and I love that, and I love it because that is the point.

Starting point is 00:18:32 It's not something we're doing as a gimmick. Point of this story, and this is looked from so many different angles in so many different ways, is that the entire concept of the protagonist is flawed, the entire concept of the villain is flawed, our way of processing the world through heroes and villains is a mistake. It ends up creating these barriers between people that shouldn't be there. It ends up giving ourselves justifications, conveniences for bad behavior,

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Starting point is 00:19:20 on marina c w of's village rate the aquarium will be much more crucial location background scenery such as you gotta yeah amazing does anyway go through all this later doesn't know we get it um yeah this is i understand what they were trying to do was watching it i was watching it first all episode six easily the best episode of the entire season yeah last week yeah it was great i I just watched him both and released because I missed it last week. So I did six and seven on the release. I can tell you that when I was watching, I'm like,

Starting point is 00:19:52 are they going to make us like follow Abby now? I'm like, I don't like her. I don't want to follow her because I don't like her. And everyone in the game is like, everyone who played the game is like, yeah, that's the point.

Starting point is 00:20:02 You're supposed to know. And like they have a daunting goal. As they said, they have to make me like this person. I like her as an actress and she's great. I mean, it was like, well,

Starting point is 00:20:11 but don't you care? Joel did that. her dad and I'm like, but I don't care because that's not who I was introduced to. I wasn't introduced to her dad. I was introduced to him. I was introduced to her. To Ellie and Joel, those are the people that I was following. So she's

Starting point is 00:20:24 the bad guy to me. I'm not saying they can't do it, but I don't know. Like this season to me was fine. It wasn't very good and it wasn't terrible, but it was fine. It was a great, a great episode, but I thought there's a lot. A lot of the characters made really stupid decisions.

Starting point is 00:20:42 Really stupid decisions a lot of times. I was a couple of times I'm like, what are you doing, you idiot? Like a few times watching it. So what did you think overall of this season? I thought it was a solid finale, if we could start there. I thought it was a solid finale, not a spectacular or great finale. But, you know, most of the time with HBO premiere television, it's the second to last episode, the penultimate episode is Mark Ellis might say that is the best episode of the season, right?

Starting point is 00:21:08 And so it's no surprise to hear you say that episode six was the one you really liked from the entire season. I thought it was a good season, but I agree. It wasn't as good as season one. And what's interesting now as we go into season three is something you brought up, the shift in focus, right? And you knew, they knew ahead of time, if we're going to do this, we need to get an actress that has a proven track record of being someone that people enjoy watching. She has that Netflix miniseries that's up on Netflix now. She was the lead in a few series recently. So Caitlin Dever is someone who is growing and growing and getting bigger and bigger. So you move the focus over to her. And of course, people this year, you can't deny that people

Starting point is 00:21:51 this year kind of turned on Bella Ramsey a little bit, some of the fandom, some people weren't happy with them. So in a way, it has kind of inadvertently helped them to make this switch. Sure. Season three, a little bit more easier. I think people would be more upset if it was like they were moving away from Joel if they had kept them alive to focus on Caitlin. Dever, I think people would be more upset. But the fact that they're moving away a little bit from Ellie, to focus on Caitlin is good. But yes, the season overall, enjoyable season,

Starting point is 00:22:19 some really good moments within the season, but not as strong as the first season, emotionally, writing-wise, or direction-wise. And so there's lessons to be learned, and I think season three, they're going to have a much more stronger story to tell, and I think you're going to see the best of their stuff again here in season three. The shift in characters kind of reminds me of lost

Starting point is 00:22:39 in the way that they did stuff. Oh, yeah. You know, they brought in people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Others and things like that. You started to follow the, you got away from Kate and Jack and you started to follow and Ben and all those people.

Starting point is 00:22:50 Ben, yeah, and you learned about their stories, but it took a little bit more time. But I hear your point about also is that they're, they're getting a lot of crap right now with Ellie. And also I think that that storyline is, is growing thin,

Starting point is 00:23:05 right? I was like, she's coming. It's predictable, though. I don't even, I don't know. I haven't played the game. but it's predicted to me that clearly,

Starting point is 00:23:11 Ellie doesn't die. Dina probably shot Abby or something along those lines, something, something, because Dean was nowhere to be found during that whole scene. Right. So I'm like, so something like that.

Starting point is 00:23:20 Is this, but I don't know. I mean, I think we, they, they need to try to shift something up because I just think they lost, they lost a little bit of juice this season. It's not,

Starting point is 00:23:29 it wasn't the time, the show, the first, everybody wouldn't shut up about the show when, when season one was going on. Now it's like, eh, kind of tuned out of it or watched it.

Starting point is 00:23:37 It's just fine. The whole diehards are going to, check out but they they need something to get it back so maybe that's a shift i don't know i mean the joel decision i don't think they planned for i don't think they really understood how much that was going to affect people doing it that early in the sense that early that really that really shattered a lot of people and although as you said episode six was a great reminder of how great their chemistry was it's also a reminder that we won't get it again and so i think there's a feeling of people might not doom back in you know i know i think even though i thought that six was was structured so beautiful

Starting point is 00:24:09 how it was written in like I almost was like I I kind of wish like episodes one two and three were those years you know what I mean right right you do episode one two and three through those years see the deterioration of their um relationship and then you push but I get I get why they did it and how they did it because the way that they did it it actually worked really well but it's just you know what did you lose in the interim you as far as viewership trust or viewership in general because there was just some things in there that just they because I know from the game they really focus more so on Ellie's intent for revenge. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:51 Yeah. It is in the last episode and a half for her, but then it was just the relationship, which is fine and it's part of it, but just the relationship and the whole thing where it's more about the relationship that it is to revenge. It was her drive. Yeah. And especially after what happens and. six it should have been the drive more so so i think they made a mistake of just focusing so heavy

Starting point is 00:25:13 in and by the way you and jesse was fucking gone on the second he's there is no way but everything with the way that they're setting up this relationship there's an you can have a chance anyway all right yeah that's last of us what do you guys think put your thoughts in there let us know as i said we have um the eclipse channel that you guys can get involved in over there if you're not subscribe to the clips channel please do it we are so close to 10 000 subscribers on that channel already I just head on over there and subscribe to it. I've got a couple more stories here, John. We're making a short show today, too.

Starting point is 00:25:46 As you're going to start off the week, you're starting off the week, and I don't know if Roxy's going to be able to beach tomorrow. Yeah. We've got six right now. Six questions right now. Memorial Day, and I give you prop for being here too. You're making a military man work on Memorial Day. I know. I know. It's true.

Starting point is 00:26:02 They even have, it's even the fact that the audience is even here. In fact that we got three of watching is surprising. Come on, guys. sending in your supertads i'm you know i'm a eight-year army man for god's sake it's memorial day sending in some love you know it's hilarious is that someone i had a few people asked me they're like oh what do you have morally i'm like working they're like oh you're working why are you working i'm off i go yeah i can have off yeah i can take any i can take all every day off but i just i won't be living i won't be paying rent um so it's hilarious you know this morning yeah

Starting point is 00:26:34 this is the dopiest thing i did all weekend we went so we went with the family, which was a nice little trip. We went to a place out here and we had some food. My wife went to this shop that she wanted to go to. And we were kids. The kids wanted to go to this yogurt place. We did all this. We had a really nice time.

Starting point is 00:26:53 But we found this shop. And my little one said, eventually, let's start playing softball. So we bought our glove. We found this really great glove. Five bucks. I was like, this is amazing.

Starting point is 00:27:01 This glove would cost me like 60 bucks and things. And it was a well, put together glove. So this morning, we're having to catch me and the little one. and before I went to work and I and I said, why are you throwing so? What do you, why are you throwing like that?

Starting point is 00:27:14 She's like, I'm just throwing. I go, I don't understand why you're doing that? What are you doing? And I look and I go, wait a minute, come here,

Starting point is 00:27:21 but her fucking left-handed glove. She's like trying as hard as she can and she's like, I don't have any power in this hand. And I'm like, and I'm like, wait a minute. Let's just left-handed glove. It was hilarious.

Starting point is 00:27:37 It was hilarious. Like, what a bargain. What a bargain. A left-handed glove makes sense, considering I have a right-handed kid. So absolutely stupid. I'll tell you the other thing that's stupid. Yeah. No. This.

Starting point is 00:27:50 Oh, yeah. What's happening? I was so excited about this. You were? Yes. I wanted to see Joel Schumacher's cut of this. I know we did see Schumacher's. No, we did not.

Starting point is 00:28:04 We happened. Dude, the movies that he made, that he was allowed to make without studio interference are really good movies. Lost boys, phone booths. Like, this,

Starting point is 00:28:16 these movies that, they, they basically told him to do stuff. He said, I'm a company player. He'll do what you want me to do. And he made toy movies. A plan screening of the Schumacher cut of 1995's Batman for this coming

Starting point is 00:28:27 Thursday has been canceled. Website and YouTube channel 1995, Batman, which is dedicated to the Schumacher directed future. It's hilarious. There's a full channel directed. It's just that. All right.

Starting point is 00:28:38 says they had planned the free screening to take place at a cinephile video. However, the theater received a cease and desist from Warner Brothers after news of the screening made headlines. Really? The site says the management did the best they could, but they had no way to fight it and had to cancel the screening. The theater weren't making money off showing the working, but it's clear that Warner saw things a bit different. Bo! Two Warner Brothers were doing this. Bo! In 2023, Slack viewers in the US got a chance to see the original version of Batman

Starting point is 00:29:06 forever that a rough cut which requires a few million dollars worth of further work and visual effects and musical scoring clocked in at 158 it reportedly boasts a more deliberate pacing and a deeper exploration of bruce way in psychology response to what was shown has been positive screenwriter akiva goldsman saying back in 2023 in the wake of schumacher's passing releasing his cut would be a nice way to honor to the film or honor him excuse me i think he would have appreciated that water has made no indications of of plans to finish and release the director's cut of the film. You and I seem to be on a very different page about this. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:39 It's like, come on. First of all, why, why, why you, why you're doing this to the theater? There, water, but there. That's so lame. That is, that is the definition of shit studio stuff. Who cares if you're showing that the Joel Schumacher cut to a bunch of people. Sees and desist. Eat my balls.

Starting point is 00:29:59 That's so, that is so, that is so lame. It's so lame what they did there. Look, I get it from a certain point of view. And if I can present it, it's that they are very burned from the Zach Snyder situation. I'm not putting money into it. But the last thing they want is to create a grounds, another groundswell of people who are like, release the directors. I mean, they've been fighting the air cut for years that battle with David Ayer saying there's a better cut of suicide squad,

Starting point is 00:30:28 which is nonsense because Carad de Levine is still in the movie. so give me a break. And then you look at this whole situation of Batman. I get it. You want to look, that movie is. You go back and watch it. It's not a good movie anymore. It's dated.

Starting point is 00:30:40 I don't know where your nostalgia is on it, but it's not a good movie. So what was his director's cut going to give me? That was somehow much more darker and dramatic and all of that. I don't think there would be much more of this. But like people buy into this stuff that director's cuts are supposedly these amazing reimagining. Now, Zach Snyder, certainly that Justice League,

Starting point is 00:31:00 miles better than the Josh Whedon. But it's still overstuffed. It's still drags. It's so very operatic and melodramatic in its approach. So it's not the best movie. But you look at this situation, I don't think there's even a lot of strong bones to work with in order to deliver an amazing director's cut that's going to change your entire perception

Starting point is 00:31:20 of the film. Because as you said, he was tasked with making films about toys. So he came with one side of your mouth, say he accomplished the mission. But he had this other movie that he had made that wasn't about selling toy. You never know. They could have, he could have done it. But he could have done something along. It was where he really went toy style.

Starting point is 00:31:37 Oh, I hate that. There's no way to say that. But I, but I'm curious if he put together this version. And at the time, the Warner Brothers executives in charge were like, yeah, you can cut this out. We want to make it much shorter.

Starting point is 00:31:47 Do this. Do that. Do this. Do that. Take out like key elements. And he says, because you know, there are scenes sometimes. You cut certain things out. You go, that doesn't even make sense how that plays. So I would be curious just to see it. Like I said, to counter. you said, I do understand I'm going, hey, wait a minute. I don't want to do another whole thing

Starting point is 00:32:05 here where there's this whole movement on the Zach Snyder stuff. The Joel Schumacher cut is not going to get the same kind of, no, you're right. The Zach Snyder thing is going to get because it's still, Zach Snyder is still relevant to that, especially at the time with DCU and trying to carry it out. Joe Schumacher, it's more so just honoring the man's legacy. Like, if you had a different version of this, I'd be curious to see it. I think this is, I think this is really lame on the part of Warner Brothers. I, like, I don't have to agree. I don't think that they have to put money behind it. And I think they can say, listen, you want to see this movie without unfinished graphics

Starting point is 00:32:37 and unfinished music? Yeah. Be our guest. There's a screening that they're going to have. Sure. They want to run their screenings. Have a blast. But we're not putting any money into this.

Starting point is 00:32:46 It doesn't behoove us to do so, but a cease and desist for people that want to see it pretty, pretty lame. I don't disagree with you on that end, for sure. Because as you said, there's not a lot of Joel bros who are going to make a big deal. but I think they're just so burnt by what happened. They don't want to even open the door to this kind of stuff. But it's bad PR to come off as the angry bigwigs who want to stomp on the little guy. In the studio and a screening that meant nothing. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:33:12 And a screening of a YouTube channel that's putting it on for people who love the movie. Yeah. Yeah. That's really, that is, yeah, that's like V for Vendetta stuff. Yeah. It's bad. Maybe they want to do it themselves. So maybe that's why they did it. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:33:26 No chance. they got to figure out. They don't even know who they wouldn't even know what Batman they're putting out. That's true. They don't even know what Batman they're putting out. They're still waiting to see. What do you guys think? Put your thoughts in there. Do you think that this is what they should have done? They should have done a cease and sister. Do you think they know they're being lame? Do you think we'll ever see the cut or do you just simply not care? All right. Moving on, this is a story. John's very passionate about. Oh boy. He believes that this is something that should have happened. He is constantly. on Twitter defending this man. Ryan Reynolds. Hey! An R-rated Star Wars movie, apparently. So this is the story here. Deadpool star, Ryan Reynolds,

Starting point is 00:34:11 has revealed that he once pitched an R-rated Star Wars project to Disney. There's never been an R-rated Star Wars movie or series, even as a show like Andor has pushed the limits of TV 14 ratings with murder, swearing, and scenes implying sexual activity will or has taken place. No Star Wars projects currently in development. element are expected to receive an R rating, even as it's been hinted. A horror project is in the works at Lucasville. Speaking with Scott Mendelsohn, at the box office podcast, Reynolds revealed his was a serious

Starting point is 00:34:40 pitch with the aim to do something more adult in the Star Wars universe as opposed to just making a crass or vulgar. It doesn't have to be an overt A plus characters. There's a wide range of characters you could use. And I don't mean R-rated to be vulgar. R-rated is a Trojan Horse for emotion. I always wonder why studios don't want to just gamble on something like that. I'm not saying I want to be in it.

Starting point is 00:35:01 That would be a bad fit. I'd want to produce and write or be a part of behind the scenes. Those words are eyepiece subsist really well on scarcity and surprise. We don't get scarcity really with Star Wars because of Disney Plus, but you certainly can still surprise people. However, don't expect his pitch went anywhere as there is no indication. Ryan Reynolds is working on a Star Wars project at any capacity. His longtime friend and filmmaker, Sean Levy, on the other hand, is working very much on Star Wars Starfighter which is slated for cinemas may 28th 2027 um we'll see we're we're

Starting point is 00:35:32 gonna be we're gonna be a different bring it on yeah um if you would have told me that r-rennandez was pitching an r-rated comedy or r-rated film that he wanted to star in and that he was gonna be in and that it was gonna be more in the deadpool van it's a get out of here to quote you with that noise yeah um however the fact that he emphasized and said the money said i wanted to was going to be in it, producing it, and putting it more on the R-rated of not comedy, but more R-rated on, like, emotional and stuff like that, I'd be all for it. Now, I do understand, as much as I like to take big poops on Lucasfilm sometimes, I understand on their brand and on their IP, especially today, why you can't do that, because there's no world Ryan Reynolds is pitching a $50 million

Starting point is 00:36:20 R-rated movie. If you pitch a $50 million R-rated movie, I consider it. And I can say, let's see. But if people are so up in arms about having, you know, both the commander taking his own life and then also the sexual assault inside of and or what the hell they're going to do is so, you can't say the F word in Star Wars. They'll lose their minds, even though it's okay to say hell. So I get why they said no on this. I do.

Starting point is 00:36:51 Yeah. But I also like the idea, as I've said many times over, where I always put. back on people now like, well, Star Wars doesn't have this. Star Wars, it is time now. You and I have always talked about the way to succeed in any business. If your business is not going the right way, is to pivot. Yep. Star Wars needs to pivot right now. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:37:10 Clearly, the pivot with Andor as far as quality worked wonders. Yeah. They need to pivot away from the silly nonsense all the time. And people like, well, you're silly nonsense. You're talking about all the stuff that we always love the about. Star Wars? No. What I'm talking about is bad writing. What I'm talking about is lazy writing and just worrying about faster, more intense and all that stuff. You can evolve past it. You can still have lightsabers. You can still have explosions. You can still have all that stuff. You can combine it

Starting point is 00:37:40 with intelligent writing and good storytelling. And I think that doesn't have to be rated R. But as far as Ryan Reynolds pitching this thing, you hate it. Why? Well, because I don't buy a lot of the stuff that Ryan's current PR campaigns are selling people, you know, because this is all about him getting out from under that Blake lively lawsuit and Justin Baldoni lawsuit. So it's all like, oh, I tried, I wanted to kill Deadpool off. Really, the character that made you relevant when you were sliding in the straight to DVD territory, get out of here. You were never going to kill off Deadpool because what else have you sold that's even remotely close to what you did with Deadpool. So it's all this self-deprecating act of his that just drives me out of my mind. So, but,

Starting point is 00:38:21 that being said what he's talking about there is validity as you said christian there is validity to what he's saying in terms of the approach that star wars needs to take and the chances that star wars needs to take the use of a trojan horse is interesting um because i don't think i don't think star i don't think star wars fans need to be fooled into anything like people want to discount sometimes the newer fans like the original trilogy oh it's cheesy and it's dated um a father cuts the hand off his son. A father is killing six billion people. Like there is so much, he wants to move on to his daughter if his son won't do what he wants him to do. And he almost lets his own son die in front of him. So there's a lot of darkness throughout the first three films. Don't get it

Starting point is 00:39:06 confused with that EWalk shit at the end. Like there's is, and that's the element of Star Wars that people seem to forget. Yes, there's Pugh and the lightsabers and the really inspirational stuff. but there's also a lot of darkness that is bubbling under the surface. And I think the combo is what I think a lot of Star Wars fans want to see is the return to a little more seriousness, along with some good writing that's going to know how to alleviate the tension with comedic moments, with inspiring moments and things of that nature. So Ryan wanting to open the door to an R-rated film, I don't think that's a bad thing. It's what is it going to be about and where is it going to go.

Starting point is 00:39:43 Right. That's everything, right? That's right. But that's everything. And also, and I don't know if it was this story, but I was thinking there was something to you guys, you and Jeff broke a long time ago. And I saw the Lider say, well, the deadline, how the reporter said, and I was like, no, they didn't.

Starting point is 00:39:57 It was broken and Snyder. But there was also something about, you guys called it a long time ago that Avengers was going to probably be pushed for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. We know. And I was thinking when we were talking about this the other day, if it was going to affect Starfighter and it won't because that's that's a May thing. There's also another movie supposed to come out in December that is an untitled Star Wars movie that won't be coming out

Starting point is 00:40:21 at that time now that Avengers is coming out for sure. But I guess we can kind of dive into that in a second before we do guys, what do you think about this as far as the rated R thing goes as far as the direction of Star Wars in general? Should they start to take bigger swings like this? Is Ryan Reynolds on the right track? Should they do something a little bit more adult? Should they stay in the right adult thing because someone had asked like did and or do even do well is anybody watching and or ender season two achieved a new highly uh weekly high in viewership on the nielsen's uh streaming charts seven hundred twenty one minutes watched on disney plus during the week of april 21st season also received widespread critical acclaim with rotten tomatoes giving it a 98 percent ratings and uh recording five

Starting point is 00:41:06 consecutive episodes with ratings of 9.5 or higher so the answer is yes people were watching and a lot more So they should be paying attention to that. I think it continue to do stuff like this. We'll see. Asoka will probably just be like, hey, what are you doing over there? Monster! Shoot the monster. Oh, hey, it's Anakin.

Starting point is 00:41:25 Yay, nostalgia. Okay. So let's get to this. Avengers. Yeah. It's the release now that's the reason why the shift is sparking speculation. When we talked about this on Caves and Cal's, but I want to talk to Roka about it. Following Thursday's news,

Starting point is 00:41:42 that Avengers Doom's Day and Avengers Secret Wars have been delayed seven months, each to December 26 and December 27. Respectively, the fallout of that seismic shift is only starting to be felt. Disney and Marvel indicated at the time the delay was to allow more time to execute a gargantrum vision. Interesting, the reaction from Marvel fans and social media overall has been one that's been fairly understanding. With such a short amount of time between the start of production and release for the films of the scale with their major post-production needs, 12 months seemed highly ambitious, if not right, ludicrous. The gap is now 19 months, which is more typical for an event blockbuster.

Starting point is 00:42:18 More concerning for fans going by the reactions is what this means for Spider-Man brand new day and X-Men, if we'll have a knock on effect of delaying those titles, especially Marvel subsequently yanking three untitled Marvel film release slots off the slate on Friday. Interestingly, Marvel did leave one untitled film release slot open for July 23rd, 2027. the fourth top Holland-led Spider-Man is currently slated for July 31st, 2026, releasing, meaning it will now come out before the events of Doomsday now, rather than being the Marvel film released between the Two Avengers, as reports indicated it is mostly a standalone work,

Starting point is 00:42:53 and with Holland not expected to appear in Doomsday, it should mostly be unaffected by this date change, and thus could stay where it is. As is, the time between Fantastic Four First Steps, Spider-Man Brand New Date, will be the longest gap between MCU films released since the pandemic induced two-year gaps between Spider-Man far from home and Black Widow.

Starting point is 00:43:12 The events of the Avengers expect to heavily impact the new X-Men film, which may not show up until 2028 at this point. However, we'll find out more in the upcoming weeks. John, spill the beans. What are you hearing? What's going on?

Starting point is 00:43:29 The Spider-Man film, I think, is going to stay where it is, because I think the Spider-Man film is going to set up other stuff that we're going to see in doomsday sorry that's what it was by the way yeah i'm gonna that that deadline was reporting a hollywood reporter was reporting that she's playing the daughter of of toby mcquire yeah yeah they're saying that we broke that on the show so yeah i did you did continue sorry but got no credit because i'm not betrayed um but yeah this whole situation to me is interesting and like you said jeff and i knew months ahead of time that they were going to push this thing because it was

Starting point is 00:44:04 madness to think they were going to do it in 12 months unless they used AI. And they were never going to do that for the PR hit they would take. So I also think that maybe the story wasn't fully done either, Christian. Because I think if you've got a script that you're ready to go and you've got everybody lined up, why are you waiting so long? So I think this has been in process for quite some time. And now they're finally shooting and all of that. And there's still people they're trying to sign.

Starting point is 00:44:31 There's still people trying to put together. So I do think this is a smart move by them. I think they want to own December and see how that goes with both of their films. And I do think X-Men does get pushed to 2028 now. It was supposed to come out three months after Secret Wars, because we're going to get all the X-Men introduced in either Doomsday or Secret Wars total. So I think that's what you're going to see there. But, I mean, Jeff broke on Hot Mike on Thursday that they're still casting people,

Starting point is 00:45:01 because apparently ghost writer is apparently someone they're looking to have in the movie. And some reports over the weekend were saying they're talking to Ryan Gosling about being Johnny Blaze and bringing him in to be ghost writer for Doomsday. So this is interesting situation. You want to talk about a Paramount film or a Mission Impossible that's $400 million? This is a $500 million film already. And we haven't gotten into Secret Wars. Like God knows how much that's going to be with all the people.

Starting point is 00:45:26 Aren't they going to shoot both back to back, though? Yeah, but how many people are they adding? That's what I wanted. How much is this a billion-dollar production, I guess, is what I'm getting at. We can combine both movies and what they're going to spend. Yeah. And the question is, can you, if you can, if you make both movies for a billion dollars, you know, the risk is obviously monumental, but Jesus. But the payoff is, you know, a two to three million dollar profit. But I think that's why they yank those films off as well.

Starting point is 00:45:53 It's not just about narrative. It's about saving money. And I made it really clear, especially when you look, if you're, if you're, if, If you're Bob, I agree and look, yeah, Thunderbolts is a good movie. No, no, no, no, no, we need money on it. Or you just do what we've been talking about here, which is stop spending the kind of like, there's no world. Look, I like Thunderbolts a lot. If the movie did cost $200 million, shame on you.

Starting point is 00:46:17 There's no, you can't spend that kind of money on these movies. And you can't. It's like, I get spending, taking the risk at an Avengers movie. I really do understand it. I don't like spending that kind of money. But I think I don't like the fact I definitely don't like spending that kind of money because I don't have that animal But I don't like see left-handed glove. See left-handed glove exactly I don't like spend a five dollars on a left-handed glove

Starting point is 00:46:42 But what I'm saying is that like I see that in general, but I but I'll understand it like I look I get it You're gonna make you're gonna make a a two hundred million dollar Marvel movie with the Avengers you get downy back or you know or whatever 500 million dollars well I understand it's more sure bet yeah spending $200 million on the Thunderbolts movie spending, you know, these kind of the kind of budget there may look at, I'm always using Kong and Godzilla as the example. The movie cost $120 million to make.

Starting point is 00:47:14 And because they didn't have super high price talent, they had good talent, not high price talent, and they didn't break the bank. And that's what these studios really should be doing. And they're pulling back on some of this streaming stuff, pulling back on some of these things. I don't think, I, I'm hoping. hoping they did a there was a report on comic book movie that came out we talked about on

Starting point is 00:47:33 Friday but all the remaining shows that are coming out and movies and I think I had as far as ranked at what I wanted to think it was I think it was Superman um peacemaker fantastic four um Wonder Man and then camera with the fifth one hard heart I don't I don't care about iron art and I don't care about um this Marble Zon I don't care about either one of those. Now, IronR could win me over if it's good. And Ryan Cooper actually had a lot of effort with it. I don't think it fares well that they're dumping three episodes and then another three episodes.

Starting point is 00:48:14 Yeah, I agree. Yeah. And I'm a more situation, you know. Yeah, I just don't think the character, Rewe's character hit the way that they thought that she would in Black Panther too. Yeah. And I think it's going to wind up being one of those is kind of like, it's going to kind of be like echo. It's going to be here and it's going on. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:48:30 are you so are but are you looking forward to that one i'm hopefully optimistic but that trailer i liked her i didn't like anthony and i'm just heartbroken at some of anthony ramos's choices like i think that kid should be booking better work or better quality stuff and it's heartbreak because he's so good and so you know you got to do what you got to do but like i i don't he didn't come off from that trailer looking scary or a villain you need to be worried about or anything like that it just felt a little at times like it was young adult and i get it she's a young girl and all of that but like i think there should have been a stronger element from that trailer from his side of things and the hood looked just ridiculous so i just was like yeah the same the yeah wonder man to me is more a little

Starting point is 00:49:13 bit more i'm curious about because i like and eyes of wakonda they just released some oh right that was a lot yeah that looks fun eyes of kanda was i think the one that i'm i'm that that that that i'm way more interested in that animated and i am the zombies one i think the The zombies is a waste of time and money. That's just for the fans. Yeah, I hear you. It's a waste of time. I put that towards something else.

Starting point is 00:49:34 Yeah. It's a waste. It'll, you know, there'll be people who are fans of it, but I, but it goes back to Iger going, what happened when I was gone?

Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah. What are we green lighting? What are we putting, we're putting everything out? It's like, so there's going to be way less. Like what, yeah,

Starting point is 00:49:50 because both Wonder Man and Ironheart are both part of the quantity, not quality phase. Sure. Yeah. So I'm hoping that they're, good though because you never know what yeah and the vision series the one that's coming the vision quest right because that's like that's like the third part right you had yeah randa you had right you had agatha and and because the agatha i thought was way better than i thought

Starting point is 00:50:13 it would oh yeah 100% better than i thought was yeah um but what do you think the 2027 movie that's probably the doctor strange right dr strange three if they're going to keep that i couldn't give two shits if they ever make a dr strange movie again i loved the first one i thought the second one was a sam ramy movie had nothing to do that you do with anything. And, and I like him. I want to see, I want to see Dr. Strange return. I didn't, I, I would be walking in there, like, unless Derrickson comes back, if they have, if they have, if they have, if they have him come back. Oh, um, outside of, I agree. Because that Ramey film was horrific. It was a Ramey film. It was like, it was, because, I get it. Fagie is a,

Starting point is 00:50:52 Fagie is a, is a Ramey fan boy. You worked on, you worked on, you know, Spider-Man with him. He looks up to him. And I get looking up to him it's sam ramy i understand that but he just said oh sam make make a make a we want a sam ramey movie and marvel it's like no we we so half of the audience did the ramy heads like i'm telling you this i always used i took my friend with me to that screening when he's a big ramy guy yeah and he's like that was great wasn't it and i'm not a ramy guy never been a big ramy guy it's like there's some visual stuff that he did was incredible something like the piano stuff It was a great Ramey moment. Sure.

Starting point is 00:51:29 Utterly useless for the storytelling. There were so many story issues with that movie. And Ramey heads refused to see it or don't want to see it. But it is, there are so many story issues. And all of Ramey's films have story issues. Even Spider-Man 2, which everyone worships at, it feels dated nowadays and it has some story issues. It doesn't mean that there aren't some beautiful moments.

Starting point is 00:51:51 And certainly they pay off in No Way Home, having Alfred Molina come back as Doc Gaw can have that scene. It's great. But there's, you know, there's a lot of problems. There's some early 2000 stuff going on in it, but that's just a product of its time. You know, if we just watched it again with Sam, it's a good movie. I mean, they're good movies. They are dated.

Starting point is 00:52:10 There's no doubt about it, but they're really good movies. And I think I can understand the argument for people making two, the best Spider-Man. It's not my favorite Spider-Man, but I understand the argument. It's a really good movie. And three, I kind of, in the same way that we were defending Joel Schumacher beforehand, I don't blame Spider-Man 3 on San Ramee. I really don't. I blame the studio for getting us involved because they made him do so much that he didn't want to do.

Starting point is 00:52:35 He didn't want to over stack it with all the villains. He didn't want to focus on venom in this one. He wanted to do other stuff. He had the fourth one. I mean, they were like, what, a week out from shooting the fourth one when all that shit went down. Yeah. And like, so he was kind of, again, bullied out of it in the way. So I don't really blame him for what happened.

Starting point is 00:52:52 There was some really goofy shit going on in the third one. Yeah. You know, of course, Bibbs will defend it as the best Spider-Man. I just feel like, between that. Some of the story pitches Bibbs gave you for the showdown. Yeah, true. Yeah, that and Gremlins, too. He wanted to do a full Gremlin's two thing, too.

Starting point is 00:53:10 Like, him and Mance on the Gremlins, too, worse. Anyway. I mean, he's a hit or miss for me, right? Because, like, for love of the game, that is the worst Kevin Costner baseball movie. I mean, the whole Kelly Preston's storyline is ridiculous in that. did that. Yeah, and then, but drag me to hell is awesome. I think when he pairs it down, he is good. Like, he'll be good, but when you go the budgets, the budget's expensive. He now goes, oh, I can do my wacky shit now at higher budget. The argument would be this. The

Starting point is 00:53:41 argument would be from any, because you know how it is. The argument is, especially from Kevin finding it, but oh, yeah, you guys didn't like what? You, guess what? It made $800 million. Sure. Sure. Like the Spider-Man movie at that time, Spider-Man one was the highest. grossing opening weekend ever for a movie. So jokes on you, idiots, you know, and not wrong, because people still $800 million for Dr. Strange, too, I wouldn't,

Starting point is 00:54:06 if I would have seen that movie and then all by myself, a month earlier, I'd like, I don't think this movie's going to do very well. But, yeah, clearly. It was also during the Marvel machine, still kind of moving forward. But I'm curious what does the audience think that's watching this? Most people, put in, put it for the audience that's watching live right now.

Starting point is 00:54:29 Yeah. As far as Dr. Strange 2 goes, just put, loved it, liked it, eh, or hated it. And I'm curious to all the different opinions that we get that are coming in from the almost 500 people watching. Hey, Johnny, Stephen, how about this? Maybe just maybe we're more honest about Sam Ramey than you are. What happened? What did you even say? Maybe just maybe.

Starting point is 00:54:51 What do you say? We're being more honest than you are about. You don't know what you said. He just said maybe, just maybe you guys don't like Sam Ramey. It's not that. Well, no, not that. It is absolutely not that. You talk about the films we did like from him.

Starting point is 00:55:03 Totally. I like Sam Ramey. And I like Sam Ramey as a filmmaker. I don't like him for that movie. And I don't like, if you're giving in the same way that if you're, if Sam Ramee is like we just said, Evil Dead, all those things. If you're giving Sam Ramee an original thing to do, Sam Ramee is a brilliant director. I'm not a big man.

Starting point is 00:55:17 Darkman is a fun. I love Darkman. Yeah. Him doing his own thing. And it's if, but if you're. giving him one of these movies of the connectivity and all that. It doesn't become a connectivity movie and, well, that's what you want a different style? No, look at Ryan Cooler did with, with Black Panther. Right. Peter made it his own, made it his movie, but he connected it

Starting point is 00:55:37 it all the way through. That is not a MCU movie. It's a Sam Ramey movie with crazy Sam Ramey visuals. I didn't, so to answer your question, no, I don't like Sam Ramee for that movie. Yes. In general, yes, I do. So you're right and you're wrong at the same time. Right. right right no people just can't handle criticism it's immediately like you just hate them it's like no it's it's a more nuanced thing than that no it's yeah 100% all right what do you guys think about it put your thoughts in there let us know please um okay is there anything else worth talking about right now uh i don't know man i don't think so what's that what is that are we gonna get to the question i think we're gonna go to the questions you're crushing all the questions crushing one

Starting point is 00:56:18 right now with with a big 16 is usually what you get started with or we even start That's something I said, people. What's cool? Yeah, well, look, at least we do, at one point there was like 60 people here. Now there's almost 500. So there you go. Oh, nice. So let's see if we can get, if there's some kind of miraculous comeback, John can make, we shall see.

Starting point is 00:56:38 But before we do that, John, what's going on on the channel this week? Yeah, hey, it's the Outlaw Nation. Come on, hang out. Come on and hang out with us there. YouTube.com slash John Roka says. We got to the spoiler review for The Last of Us from last night, dropping a little bit later. With the geek buddies, we also got our Lilo and Stitch spoiler, because you know, Michael Vogel is a massive animated fan,

Starting point is 00:56:59 animation fan working in animation and loves that Lilo and Stitch original. So we're going to go back and forth about that movie as well coming up. And then later on this week, the Jedi Way will be back. There's a lot of Star Wars news happening apparently this week. And then the hot mic, spill the tequila tomorrow night with me and Winston. Trust me, we've already got stories lined up. You don't want to miss out on the show tomorrow night live. And, of course, my reactions and reviews throughout the week.

Starting point is 00:57:22 So thank you. Yeah, YouTube.com slash John Roka says. Give you so much credit for continually to do a Star Wars show. I don't know how you do it. How you do it? Al Rensha. Hey.

Starting point is 00:57:32 I've watched King Charles dog videos and they're so funny. They're the best. You've seen these, right, John? What? No, King Charles. I've got to show the King Charles video. This is how you have not seen the King Charles videos. I have no idea.

Starting point is 00:57:43 I know who King Charles is. But I have. No, no, so basically, how many of these do I have? I have. I only have one in here now. Get rid of the other one? King Charles. Oh, no, I haven't. So it's basically, you must have seen this. This dog that is like this whole roost of dogs. And this, this one dog is fighting, he's causing shit with a whole bunch

Starting point is 00:58:03 of other ones. Oh, that video. I did that video. And then he knock comes over and he just basically just bitches the dog and says, because, yeah, that's the outlaw on the Smodown. Absolutely. All you yapping little shits as soon as I get to the house, that's enough. You've seen that. So anyway, so we, we just put a King Charles short up on the channel. So that's how much we love King Charles. Mike Joyce after the last of us finale I'm team Abby Ellie went too far that's the yeah I mean I think that that point is the revenge is going is going solid you know and it's like it's like you have to it's it's almost like the dark side of the force right but I'm not team Abby I'll tell you that I don't think what I think Ellie went off the handle but like

Starting point is 00:58:43 I'm not going to just like Abby because she is is Caitlin like the character itself she's The character sucks. The character sucks. And we'll see if they can win me over with her in season three. But I'm like, no, she's, you got to go. She got to go. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead, John.

Starting point is 00:59:02 No, I'm just saying, like, yeah, the whole point. And Craig Mason said it afterward that many doc they do after all the episodes. Like, the point was to show you, was to show the audience what this pursuit of revenge can really lead like. Because sometimes the audiences get caught up in wanting the revenge, but don't really realize the ramifications of wanting that much revenge. Right. Now it hurts everybody around them.

Starting point is 00:59:21 And it was pretty brutal. Great job with that. Yeah. You know, it's an interesting because I watched this scene in the game. You know, again, spoilers, who haven't seen this as he jumped out, you got to probably jump out again. You've been warned. So the scene where, you know, she takes out the pregnant lady. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:38 In the game, the pregnant lady attacks her. Yes. Yes. So there's a little bit more like she wasn't going to do anything to you, but you attacked her. And that's, but in this one, it's like, oh, no. You know, you, you shot at that dude. And then because both of those two from the beginning of the episode two, they were, they were, they were okay. They weren't causing any shit.

Starting point is 01:00:00 They were, the guy. Yeah. No, they didn't want to be. The guy was like, all right, let's get the hell out of here. And so they're going to lead up to it. I'm interested. I'm not, I'm not out. I'm not out.

Starting point is 01:00:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, the whole season three going through those three days. Yeah. Yeah. Reggie Brown. Ethan Hunt, equalizer, Robert McCall, John Wick, Jason Bourne. Bond and Jack Bauer. Who's the last coming out of the room?

Starting point is 01:00:23 Ooh. Today, the way that the movies have been shot with current? I mean, it's John Wick. Yeah, Wick. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, with the way that, I mean, the way that the rules work in his universe, the guy could fall off, I mean, he literally has fall off buildings.

Starting point is 01:00:37 I mean, fine, and he's going to come back in the fifth one. So first one, Paul, it's way too old, so they'll take him out first, then Jack Bauer. Which is right or not. Yeah, then probably Bond. Then maybe Jason and Ethan. try to take on Wick and then Wick takes out Ethan and then. But Bauer. You already said, Barron?

Starting point is 01:00:54 Jack, first one gone, please. No way. He's a TV actor. First one gone. Wick versus Born would be the battle at the end, I think. Please. Power with me. Okay, let's see.

Starting point is 01:01:05 He has no special skills. He's just, you know. Some special skills. He landed Julia Roberts. I'll tell you that. Hey, you let him at the altar. No, that's not what happened. Daniel Rami.

Starting point is 01:01:17 Rehemi, just a couple of thoughts. Ellie should have been more ruthless and less remorseful in season two of Lasos. Agreed. Where was Abby's dog in the finale? I guess that happened in the game. Ellie was supposed to kill her dog to make us hate her even more. So that happens. And maybe they didn't want that to happen to Zabella because she's getting enough crap.

Starting point is 01:01:36 I tweeted this the other day and I stand by it. I'm so happy. I never played the game and still have not played the games because I can watch this thing free and clear. And I'm enjoying it for what it is. And everyone's comparing it to the. the or not a lot of people comparing it to the game are finding themselves like angry about it. It's like, well, is it the problem of the show or is it your problem that you're bringing in your expectations from what happened in the show to in the game to this?

Starting point is 01:02:02 So yeah, go be pleased. Yes, in the back there, Krishna. Thank you. Here's the reason why I would tell you that your argument doesn't hold up this season. Oh, okay. Because last season, they stayed really true to the game. Like in season if season one they took a ton of liberties and went outside of it and changed up so like they added stuff and changed some stuff obviously there were tons

Starting point is 01:02:26 of things that they changed but for the most part by its core it stayed the same and that's what I think people loved so much so you really understood it was one of the that's what video games did so poorly in the past video game movies did so poorly in the past well you know what we should just do this instead of that and it's like no it's not what they didn't game of throne stuck with with the red wedding they did all those different things and they showed people who knew it and they brought it to life and they changed little things and they added little things but they didn't change the core of it from again i didn't play all season two but from what people saying season two there's a big dramatic shift so if you

Starting point is 01:02:56 get people on board with season one you're like no the show's so great to say so true to the game and then season two doesn't you can see people getting upset with that i i i get it but if it was season one and they did that's what they did for season one is the same thing yeah uh David, Jordale, who'd win in a fight? Big Balls versus Stitch. Well, Stitch is invincible. He's an alien. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:03:22 So Big Balls is a lover, not a fighter. Ha! Corn Emperor. Support Farroca. There you know. 18, not bad, John. 18. I'm surprised we hit 18.

Starting point is 01:03:34 Julius Wyatt, how about Cat saving the Knicks last night? You ain't kidding. I didn't enjoy Lilo and Stitch, sadly. I guess I'm missing something. MI8 was fun. Thanks to all veterans. Yes, thank you to all veterans. I'm really happy that John was able to join us here today.

Starting point is 01:03:49 But, yeah, I mean, the Knicks in general, like, they loads that game last night. It's season's over. Dude, what a game. I was just like, there's no way they're doing this again because they did it. The Celtics coming back 20. I'm like, there's no way. And damn, if they didn't. Oh, I was so shocked.

Starting point is 01:04:04 They got to win. They got to win again, though. In the beating Pacers again. If there was 3-0, it was over. No teams ever come back from three out. It was done. But 3-1, 3-1? Two-or.

Starting point is 01:04:18 What I'm saying if they win the other night, if Indiana was-old. Right, and then going back. They never know. Oh, 2-2 would be a lot better. Oh, my God. 2 would be insane. Especially if Pacers won 2 in the garden, and then they win 2.

Starting point is 01:04:32 Indiana, that would be great. Oh, yeah. So Christian Medard, I like Abby's story better in Last of Us 2 game, better than Elliot. It's more exciting, though, season 2 was all right. Yeah, I just, just watching the season. season go, I just wouldn't have that same kind of like, oh, I need to, I can't wait. Like I'll say this. There were times that I would turn it on going, oh, no, this feels like

Starting point is 01:04:53 work today. When I was watching it, it felt like work. I was like, no, the other season one, I'm like, oh, get out of my way. The way that I do like when I was watching the studio. Yeah. I'm like, I just want to watch this show. Just, I just want to watch the show. Season two feel like, oh, yeah, I just kind of, I don't know. Yeah, I think the big mistake, if I can say any mistake they made the season was they didn't flesh out Abby more for people to care about going into a new season. Right? And so maybe they were scared to do it

Starting point is 01:05:21 because they would risk some of the surprises they have. But you take chances with audiences like this. They might not come back to even care about what you're going to do in season three. That's the danger. So I think people will look at season two differently once season three is done. If they're successful with what they're doing with Abby in season three, you might look at season two differently.

Starting point is 01:05:39 But right now I can understand people's issues with season two for sure uh mike joyce pretty lame of zazov more of jim kerry's riddler is never a bad thing i guess he couldn't sanction sanction their buffoonery that's the best from uh tomily jones when he said that to him and that's actually a buffoonery at least the shoe marker cut that's hilarious that starts trending i'll be very happy actually well you got to spell it correctly joyce bit even no you know misspelled's even better uh mal keiths john what do you think about the deadline article focusing on Doctor Who ratings dive and supercharging uncertainty about the show's future. What's that all about?

Starting point is 01:06:15 Yeah, it's a shame to see that because I think these last two seasons have been some of the best Doctor Who we've seen in a while. No offense to Jody Whitigar. I thought she was a great Doctor Who. I don't think they wrote for her really well. So the last two seasons, I've really enjoyed Shuti Gatwe as the doctor. I just think people are turning off because A, it's a black doctor, B, because he's gay and makes no bones about it. And I think some Doctor Who fans just don't want to see that.

Starting point is 01:06:40 And the storylines are ultra woke, to use another term that people seem to hate. And so, which I don't have a problem with because I enjoy seeing a different take on Doctor Who. But I think people like Doctor Who when they're attracted to him or when he's got some kind of chemistry going on with his assistant or his partner, companion. So I think some of that elements are missing. So I'm not surprised. But I also don't know if Doctor Who works in our day nowadays. like we we seek much more nuanced and much more complex entertainment and i don't know the doctor who when it's not as strong as you need it to be gets or checks that box you know i've never seen an

Starting point is 01:07:19 episode uh you got to come to it it is absolutely like what do they call that it's like it's like an acquired taste it's not easy it took me a few years to finally become a doctor who face just too much of it's too intimidating uh it's no show holy crap lilo and stitch almost past thunderbolts complete office uh box office a one weekend yeah because that's what i'm telling you you guys it's two other movies yes but but it's also because like i said you don't understand and this is why i will continue to say this and i'll be adamant about it okay if you get decent family movies during the summertime you will benefit you will benefit you're going to see train your dragon do it i'm curious what ilio's going to do that's going to be interesting um that's

Starting point is 01:08:01 It's interesting because it's not like a known kind of name, right? Yeah. But Lilo and Stitch, and the other one, Zootopia 2 is going to annihilate. That's not summer, but that's the end of the end of the year. That's going to annihilate because there's not stuff a lot of times. You can just take your kids to see. It's the only movie that I've heard my little one say to me, I want to go to the movie theater to watch. Because what else is you going to see?

Starting point is 01:08:22 I mean, she wants to see Wicked 2 when it comes out. But what else? They can't see anything else too. So you can get a whole family out there to go, you're going to make money. I agree. Yeah, Armada. Did you hear about the Amazon driver that would leave dumps in people's yards

Starting point is 01:08:36 after dropping off packages? I thought of Richard, no royalties on his end. You've heard that me tell you that story, right? My friend Richard, not his real name, but on this show it is. And basically I got a voicemail. I went over to Merf's house and I was, and I really had to,

Starting point is 01:08:56 it was like a steaming hot day. And I was knocking and banging on the door, no one was picking up, was slamming on the door, no one's coming at the door. I really had to go, so I went in the back to the shed. And I was the shed in the back there,

Starting point is 01:09:08 and I saw a New York Giants helmet. You know I'm a, you know, I'm a cowboy's guys. So we took a dump in the helmet and buried it in the backyard. Yikes. So,

Starting point is 01:09:21 man. Ralph, Hey. Christian, I know everyone is saying, just wait for Abby's backstory, but be prepared for not liking it. There's a reason half the fandom despises the second game.

Starting point is 01:09:30 is because of Abby. We don't like her. Yeah, so maybe the problem is not even the show. It's the foundation that it's going from. I've heard this. I've heard that people, I'm not,

Starting point is 01:09:39 I am not on board with Abby. I'm not on board with what, I see what they're trying to do. I see what they're trying. They're going to go, no, no, no, just wait.

Starting point is 01:09:46 Just wait. We're going to show you now her whole story. Yeah. Look, guess what? Kylo killed Hans Solo. Wasn't on board with him when he turned good. Wasn't on board with him. I don't care.

Starting point is 01:09:57 But don't you understand? Yeah, I understand. Still don't like him. I understand why sometimes you understand what that guy's being a dick. Yeah, I understand. Still dick. It's,

Starting point is 01:10:06 I can't. So that's the thing. You got to really win me over. And she's a good actress. We got to really, I would love to find out what the thought process was in having Joel off in the second episode. Like,

Starting point is 01:10:19 I would love to know that was it because Pedro is doing so many things. So they had to adjust the storyline so that he would be gone by the second episode because he asked to shoot Vendastic for it. Well, his interview, his interview also said, he gave an interview and said that he, one of the things when I told him, he said it wouldn't be full two, three seasons of he, he's going. So it's one of the reasons he signed on. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:10:40 But I think that it was also the reason why is to say, hey, look, we need you guys to be on board with this show without him. And we'd much rather do it early than later because if, because here's the thing. If they killed him off in episode seven or seven or six or seven, right? Yeah. and then you know he's gone. Do you come back in season three? I don't know, but I would have taken that chance over this chance.

Starting point is 01:11:09 Yeah, because if you flesh out Abby and you flesh out the relationship with Joel and Ellie a little bit more, explore, why they had issues with each other, all of that. And then you lead to this tragic moment where Abby, who's a character that you've grown to like, even though you question her motives, takes Joel out. And we see the ramifications of it all for like an episode afterwards. then we go into this third season going like what are they going to do if you do it well you do right i think there's a possibility that that was maybe the better choice but again we'll see what happens at the end of season i'm mad sinister mccall i love how tom thanks me watching i love how tom thanks me for watching before the film but had to be alive among great actors would you can oh is that is that is that something that happens in the beginning of the screening

Starting point is 01:11:54 yeah in the films now yeah tom cruise would you consider because that didn't happen in the in the screening for the press screen. Would you consider Cruz and Denzel top 10 all-time actors? I would put them top 10 all-time movie stars. I think Denzel has a better case in terms of actors in top 10 versus Cruz. So I think Cruz is a top 10 movie star, maybe top three movie stars ever, Tom Cruise. But like, I don't know that I put him in top 10 all-time actors. No, movie stars, he's probably in the top five.

Starting point is 01:12:24 Yeah, yeah. Ralph in game two you play as Joel for zero percent of the game Ellie for 40 percent and Abby for 60 percent those that was done for shock factor not the story be prepared for not caring for it no spoilers but ass nine resolution I appreciate that kind of um critique yeah you know you're not he's not being hateful he's not being he's just saying this is what I don't like about the game is what I don't like about the show I'm just I appreciate that in the same way that I think that's you know and if ralph had a youtube channel they'd give him shit for saying that you know what i mean and it's like i think you expressed himself fine i can't speak on it because i didn't play game too

Starting point is 01:13:02 right but i can tell you where i am so far in the narrative i'm not just that's that's that's what happens a lot of times and you know it as well as i do john is that a lot of times people just eat this up oh we're supposed to love abby now i love her too and i know that there's some people that legitimately was like no no wait a minute i might actually really like what they're doing here and they did like it in the game and i'm not taking away from those people but there are some people just going, trust in the creators. The creators tell us we must eat this. The creators say we must like Abby now. And that's what happens with so many of these different things. Like how many times do you get on Star Wars stuff? Just trust the process. Just trust the process.

Starting point is 01:13:38 And it's like, no, no, not going to just do it because they tell me to do it. I mean, they're going to like it or I'm not. I'm fascinated by people who watch analytical or critical things and then complain that they're being analytical and critical. What would you expect? Kenneth Colton, happy Memorial Day, gentlemen. Thank you, Kenneth. Thank you, Kenneth. Really wish. You're 20 right now.

Starting point is 01:13:58 I'm impressed. I'm impressed with 20. I'm impressed with 20 on today. Nobody was even here. So I get five times credit? No, absolutely. Absolutely not. Last of us, too.

Starting point is 01:14:09 The last, last two equals The Last Jedi. Ouch. Great filmmaking slash gameplay. Garbage story because they wanted to subvert expectation and be prepared for not liking. Ralph is very passionate about this. Very passionate. Is it.

Starting point is 01:14:20 Smith. I liked the game more than game one, but I agree that this season was okay, not as good as it could have been. Some writing changes made no sense to me. Yeah, there's some really questionable things that even there's one point where like, it was, I don't know what episode it was. It was like maybe four or five. Dean is in like that little cage trying to hiding from the, yeah.

Starting point is 01:14:44 And Abby, or an Abby, Ellie, just start shooting it right near the cage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How are you doing? She's right there. you go to a shot are you right but it wasn't it wasn't like carefully planned out like this it was yeah

Starting point is 01:14:58 like gum like this and it's like it seems to yeah silly shit going on a lot of times oh and I'll tell you one moment that I did not like in the okay an alley it was unnecessary okay I love when she gets on the boat

Starting point is 01:15:15 and I love when she's you know just blind rage just going to find her at this whale thing. I loved that. I thought it was great. She shows up on the beach and then randomly the scars hang her up on the thing. Yeah. And then they go,

Starting point is 01:15:31 eh, and what was that? Leave her. Why leave her? Why leave her? Why leave her? Why does it slash and run? Why leave her? Right. You didn't get any explanation. You don't know who she is. She could be someone that just killed your whole, all, the rest of your village. You don't even know it. She told you that I'm not with

Starting point is 01:15:48 them. You're like, what's that? Explosion. And it's like it was like what was that? That was the only part of the episode. I was like that's really that was that was dumb. That was just because they couldn't have her go straight there. Yes, right. Exactly. Well, the other part is Mason said they wanted to show how these people get so involved in

Starting point is 01:16:08 their tribal politics that they even corrupted their children. Fine. But it's like that's where it starts to become are you are you using this? Are you manipulating the story to make a point or are you following organically where the story supposed to be going. But even that. You can show that with the kid. Fine, but find me a better way how she gets out. Right. Not explosion, you know, cat sees a, cat sees

Starting point is 01:16:28 a string and starts slapping at it. You can't, that was a terrible way for her to get out. Why don't leave her just hanging? So she eventually dies anyway. Right. Or or something happened to they get scared and they just run off. As opposed to leave her. Why would, why would you leave her? Makes no sense. Mad Sinister McAll. Dad and I watched havoc. He kept complaining those guns don't hold that many bullets. What is the complaint that people make movies

Starting point is 01:16:50 that annoys us. Oh, man, what was it? There was one that Sam did that. I thought it was hilarious. I don't remember. She says, oh, that's not real. I go, but the guy turning into a big green monster and breaking stuff was? She was, you asshole.

Starting point is 01:17:04 It's funny. I can't remember. I think that's the correct thing is that when you're watching a fantastical film and someone goes, well, that wouldn't be possible. It's like, wait, the 30 other things that are in the film are possible, but this is impossible. Right, right. Those are the things that are, you get. Um, Isaiah Smith says, Joel does about an hour into the game.

Starting point is 01:17:21 They're sticking to the game timeline, which might not be the best choice for TV. Right. Fair enough. Right. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:17:29 I thought they would, I thought, I knew it was coming because I had heard about it enough, but I thought they were going to change it up and keep them in later like you said. But yeah. They said no performance. Just try to do it. Um, okay. That's it today, John.

Starting point is 01:17:43 Okay. You did 20. And on this memorial day, we can pretty good. chances of Roxy not hitting 20 I don't know who's got a better chance you with the Knicks Hey open the Knicks

Starting point is 01:17:56 Thanks for joining us here John real quick where can I find you today At the Roka says on Twitter Instagram and TikTok the Outlaw Nation on Twitch there and of course My YouTube channel YouTube.com slash John Roka says Come and hang out with us later on today

Starting point is 01:18:10 with some spoiler reviews thank you Thank you guys for being here again for everybody who's joined us Oh and happy Memorial Day Sorry Memorial Day it's all the veterans and everyone who's served, and if you have a family member who gave their lives for this country

Starting point is 01:18:22 and sacrificed for this country, I send you all kinds of love serving in the military, meeting people who serve this country, meeting people who have sacrificed, and family members who are part of military members who have sacrificed means the world. So I just want to say that out to everybody on this Memorial Day.

Starting point is 01:18:38 Whatever you think about me, I love and respect our military, and I think it's a beautiful day to celebrate that today. Well, said. Don't leave just yet, John, because I don't think they want you to leave just yet. Oh, no. Sidem, where's the trailer for Mortal Kombat 2?

Starting point is 01:18:53 It's coming out this year, right? Is it? I guess. I don't know. Hey, I can look real quick while we go on. Well, Derek Johnson's ended the chat, so you might not be in. Right now, you're at 24. Are you going to pull a Steph Sabra?

Starting point is 01:19:09 Oh, no. Come back from the dead? You could be. You're at 24 right now. Renetta, W. Hey, y'all, Roka. I wasn't. I wasn't to thank you and to, I want to.

Starting point is 01:19:20 Thank you and honor to all the, and thank all the brave men and women for our armed forces. Remember that we have lost, your sacrifice has safeguarded the freedoms we hold dear. Thank you. Very, very well said. I really appreciate that. Thank you.

Starting point is 01:19:31 Thank you, Ronan. Let's love, girl. Yeah. Derek Johnson, who says, caught super late, happy moral day, all to my vats. Thank you, Derek. Very, very kind. John at 25.

Starting point is 01:19:41 Hey. Oh, this is a great question. Armada. Will Horizon Part 2 ever come out? I mean, it's shot, right? Only on streaming. I think only on streaming, bro. It's got to come out on stream, but they shot it.

Starting point is 01:19:54 They shouldn't edit it. It was supposed to come out. It was supposed to come out like two months later. What a colossal mistake in the end. It was a colossal mistake. On so many different levels. I know, bro. This is so many different levels.

Starting point is 01:20:04 The movie wasn't terrible. I like it. It's fine. Yeah. This is almost going to see that in the theaters. Yeah. Who's going to see that in the theaters? I mean, it's not for the amount of money again,

Starting point is 01:20:14 the movie costs. And it's like, We're not in 1992 when Kevin Koster's directing something. Oh, we got to go see it. It's like, you can't, that's a tough. That was a tough one in general. Ralph, Tropic Thunder with Sadie. I think she's seen it.

Starting point is 01:20:28 I'm pretty sure she's seen it. It does monster numbers for reaction videos, as does Inception. Well, Sam's never seen Inception. So we're going to do that and Lord of the Rings. Sam's also doing that. Can't wait for Sam to be done with Marvel. I was doing the, we just put out, I'm surprised how well Moon Night episode one and Tuesday, by the way.

Starting point is 01:20:44 I thought Moon Night 1 and 2 would maybe do 8 to 10,000. It's almost like 32,000 so far. And I'm so surprised, so surprised that people who are checking that out. But we have that to go. I have this inner monologue in my head going on, John, this is a fight going on in there. One side going, go ahead and do She-Hulk, I dare you. And the other side saying, don't you dare, don't you dare. And they're fighting back and forth saying to do She-Hulk.

Starting point is 01:21:08 Well, I lean towards you doing She-Hulk because I think with a female companion, it'll be an interesting experience. And I think the perspectives will be interesting. And people, people, she's, because you do with Sam, right? So I think she's engendered enough credibility with the audience that they want to see what Sam thinks of She-Hulk. And if she aligns with them or not, you know, especially because she's a woman. I will tell you that there's no world where I'm going, I don't care what kind of battles going on my head where I'm going to watch secret invasion. I'm not going to do that to me. I'm not going to do it to myself. Echo's too boring. I'm not going to watch that as nothing. I agree. But she also divisive. You will get attention for that.

Starting point is 01:21:46 I don't know. I'm still fighting myself on a sub. Derek Johnson coming in here. Eric. He's got you all the way to 30. We were on the we were on the sign off stage. Sign off. Oh, Metbull, the great James coming here. What did you guys think of Saturday's main event was $250 to get in the building on Stubhub. Oh, you, you were there? It was always in Tampa, wasn't it? Was it in Tampa? Um, so did you go, James? it looks like you did it looks like you went uh i i liked what they did i don't like that that logan paul got pinned in the way that he did to be honest right um but i i like the way they brought cody back for sure i'm glad that the that the tag team match is going to be you know sena and paul

Starting point is 01:22:29 versus those two as opposed to uh you know getting uh Travis scott and everything again um so bronson's and reep is good too bronson coming in to join him back yeah that was that was good So that's the only thing that really stood out to me, right? Was there anything else big that happened? Yeah, I mean, with the Zalina Vega and Chelsea Green, I mean, I don't think WW understands the jewel they have in Chelsea Green. Like there needs to be much more that she's involved in. And that woman can wrestle.

Starting point is 01:22:58 Go back and watch her. She's good on the mic. She's great on the mic and her storylines or acting, all of it. So they need to move her into the main event picture eventually because this is, she's a damn jewel in the one. woman's side of things. But the Bronson read thing, here's what I'll say to you. This is dangerous for Braun Breaker.

Starting point is 01:23:18 I mean, I think Bronn Breaker is getting a little forgotten of how great, everything's on Seth. It's Seth's music that hits. He's the lead. So maybe they're doing this to lead to a Bronner Brom Brewery. Definitely. Probably a year from now. Braun aside to hug Bronson.

Starting point is 01:23:34 It's very clear. That's where we're going. Yeah, definitely. Bron will eventually be, that's how they're going to build him up even more so he's going to break out of this group but yeah and i bet you haman probably goes with him and changes again um derrick thank you derrick derrick armaida says king charles versus stitch versus big ball now that's a tough one i still give it a stitch because again he's invincible yeah i'll laugh so hard in that uh original movie when when the sister's like where is she and and he goes okay okay and then she smashes them in

Starting point is 01:24:05 the head with a stick it's hilarious um i think that's i think that now you're the fact you got the That's a win. Sounds like 100 to me. All right. Well, thanks again, everybody. Thank you, guys. All right, thank you. We appreciate you guys.

Starting point is 01:24:20 Have a great rest of your day. Rest of your weekend. Week, whatever. We'll be back here tomorrow, myself and Roxy. Thank you guys so much. I appreciate you. And we will see you guys on the flip side. Stick around for our, like I said,

Starting point is 01:24:35 my reaction of Lilo and Stitch with Tina is up. And the Moon Night episode 3 and 4 will be back with Sam tomorrow. So make sure you check that out. Derek threw in a little bit some support there. Renetta just wanted to say I love Tramil Tillman as the captain in Mission Impossible. He was. He was so charismatic in that role, perfect casting. He was really good in that. He was really good. Love them in severance. You must be out of your damn mind. Love it. Moriam. Yeah, he's he's really, really good. I want to see him do a lot more. I thought he was great. Some more support with Derek taking us to 38 for John tomorrow that Roxy has to now be. So thanks again, guys.

Starting point is 01:25:10 really appreciate you and we'll see you guys on the flip side bye

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