The Kristian Harloff Show - AGATHA ALL ALONG First Reactions are in! Any good? | MCU

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

Agatha All Along is the next MCU project and it comes out soon. The first reactions are out. How did it play? Will it deliver? Steven Spielberg has been making movies about UFOs for years. From Close Encounters to E.T to War of The Worlds. Not only has he been making films about them, he has been an advocate for more information being out there. With this cast that he has assembled, Emily Blunt Colin Firth and now Coleman Domingo? Can Spielberg bring something new to awareness or will it be the fantastic stories he has told in the past? We also dive into. the news about the updates to some of the most popular shows on TV The Last Of Us, the Bear, Shogun and more. Beetlejuice 2 has been a big hit for WB. It was almost a streaming movie. What changed? Join Kristian Harloff and special guest Tom Chatalbash for this live episode of The Kristian Harloff show.  #movies #tv #uap #ufo #ufonews #spielberg #casting #bignews #tv #shogun #beetlejuice2  OUR SPONSORS AG1: Try AG1 and get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase at http://www.drinkAG1.com/BIGTHING. That's a $48 value for FREE if you go to drinkAG1.com/BIGTHING JOYMODE: http://www.tryjoymode.com CODE BIG THING BETTERHELP: Http://www.betterhelp.com/bigthing BILT: http://www.joinbilt.com/BIGTHING  

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UFOs, you know I talk about him. Well, Spielberg is doing his movie The Dish. And there is so many different people in this movie, new casting potentially, Coleman Domingo in the movie. I don't know, man, is this going to be something that Spielberg is actually going to start to bring attention? There's going to be more fantastical.

We've talked about it before. The conversation's going to keep on going with this topic. We shall see. That and more on the show here today with my guest, Tom Chattelbash. Let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Christian Harlowff show. It is me, Christian Harlov on my own show. And speaking today to, well, this is one of the OGs, man.

Tom Chattelbash is here. What's up, man? How's it going, dude? It's so psych to be here. This is so wild you being here in New York. Isn't that crazy? I know. Wow.

Who would have thought? But you are here and we are here. And people don't realize that I was thinking about people who were saying, how long that like Ellis and I were doing it. I think you started maybe even before or right around the same time. When did you start doing it? I was like October 08, I think. You started right around the same time.

We did. You might have been like a month before us. I think we started in like the end of 08 and you were like what? Like barely, what, eight years old or something? I think I was going on five. I was in like ninth grade. That's crazy. Still remember to this day, Madagascar 2, first movie ever reviewed.

Yeah, well we did that one. So maybe it's, yeah, again around the same time. Anyway, that was you'd start, you had done that for a bit and you were building a pretty good following. You were on par with us, Jeremy, Stuckman, all that. And then you decided to take a break. Yeah, you know, had college come my way and I kind of wanted to just enjoy that and didn't have a lot of time to make videos just between like work. And then just trying to enjoy myself and have the college experience. And then YouTube changed, you know, algorithm change, whole landscape changed.

Everyone in their mother had a camera making movie reviews. It wasn't like the tumbleweed days like when we were there. I think it was like me, you, Jeremy, Stuckman, still. Yeah, I remember still. Yeah, and Grace Randolph. Yeah, and Grace Randolph, I think it was around too. Yeah, so it grew exponentially. Oh, everybody does it now too, right?

It's like, it's nuts. So you get back, it was it intimidating, getting back in the game? Oh, 100%. Yeah. Because I remember I hit like a kind of a stagnant point in my channel where I was like, I want to revitalize things. I want to rebrand things. I just want to make things look better, sound better, that sort of thing. So I decided to start fresh, but when I didn't realize,

is just how much YouTube had changed in that period of time. So a lot of learning, a lot of mistakes made. But now I feel like we're nice on a nice upward trend. So I'm really excited about the stuff I'm putting out. Good, man. That's good. And you guys should check out Tom's channel because it's just your name, Tom Chattelbash, right? Yep.

Chattelbash reviews, yep. Pretty easy. Yeah. We're going to have that main topic I told you about. But Tom and I both were talking about this, and that is Transformers 1. Oh, yeah. We've got to discuss this one, you have to. You and I saw Fly Me to the Moon together, which is something.

That's another one. Right, we saw Fly Me to the Moon. But this movie, Transformers One, was a movie that I hated the trailer. Yeah, same. I thought the trailer was so bad. And I'm like, this movie is going to just be terrible. And then one point, I said, you know, I think that this is aimed towards kids. Right.

It aims to like my six-year-old saw the trailer and went, oh, I want to see this. So I know, I get it. I get it. It's not what the movie was at all. No, it's completely different. Like, I would say like the first like 10 to. 15 minutes of the movie is what the trailer sold me and then after it just becomes something so much better so much more livelier and mature where i was just like from scene to scene i was just like

more and more shocked by how much i was enjoying it and then by the end of it like me and another guy in the row we just kind of like audibly just said wow you know we're just like i can't believe how good this movie is it's shockingly good it's got emotion it's got the heart it has the transformers law It's got action. I thought by having actors, recognizable actors as opposed to the voice actors was going to be a detriment. It actually wasn't. It actually, they captured the essence of it. I would say because I'm never going to be able to replace the 1986 Transformers enemy.

Okay. It's my favorite of all time. I'm unattached. I would say, though, taking that movie out of the equation, this is the best Transformers movie that's been made so far. Oh, 100%. Yeah. you know like i'm not the biggest transformers guy like watch the animated show a little bit growing up watched all the live action movies um i really like bumblebee yeah me too i like the first

transformers movie but then like the other ones were just meh to terrible so this one went in with super low expectations but easily by far in a way the best transformers movie and that probably had something to do with it also because anytime you i like i love being proven wrong about a movie when i think it's going to stink and it turns out to be great that's my favorite feeling it's the best even even as we joke about flying me to the moon i would really enjoyed that movie but we came out and i've leaned over to you and i was like i was kind of delightful it was it was a really it wasn't bad but this movie was it just had everything i wanted it to i had a cool it smile on the entire time when i was watching it and i hope it does really really well because i think that there were a lot of

people turned off by that first trailer i feel like so many people who they've like commented on my review saying i don't know it just looks so bland it looked like a kid's movie and I was like give it a shot like it's genuinely a great all-around movie for kids for adults I think adults will be so surprised by how much they enjoy it yeah and how much their kids are also going to enjoy I think that's the main thing is that this is why most people should see especially if you have kids you know because I think that smart people realize that like everybody can talk about animation smart people can realize that like you know if you see two dudes talking about animation is it a good movie you know that's all it's a it's a good

movie and it works for everybody. So smart people would know that. I think dumb people don't don't realize that. All right. So that's that. That is the Transformers one kind of thoughts. I think that you guys should definitely check it out. Now, as we saw on the main topic here, this is a big story, at least for what I've been covering over the last year. And in general, and it's Steven Spielberg. So anytime Spielberg comes up, it is a major, major thing. So let's bring up this story right now. I just got to bring up the story. Now we can figure that.

Where the hell did it go? It disappeared on me. It disappeared. There it is. There he is. All right. So here is the story itself. And that, of course, is that.

Steven Spielberg working on this new movie The Dish and Oscar nominee, Coleman Domingo is in early talks to join Steven Spielberg's upcoming untitled UFO film at Ambulin Entertainment and Universal Pictures. Domingo joins a cast that includes Emily Blunt, Colin Firth, and Eve Houston. so far whilst Josh, excuse me, Josh O'Connor has also been rumored. Films based on a story by Spielberg and has the filmmaker's longtime collaborator David Kep from Jurassic Park, Where the Worlds, petting the scripts. Plot details are under wraps, and Christy Masako Krieger is producing the film

has been previously rumored to have been titled The Dish. Universal has dated the film from May 15, 2026, its first summer movie release since Indiana Jones in the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull in 2008. Filming on the project is expected to kick off in February in New Jersey and Atlanta, Domingo is coming off critical acclaim and awards nominations for his role in Netflix Rustin. He's drawing strong reviews for his dramatic performance in Sing Sing. He and Spielberg previously worked together on 2012's Lincoln. Okay. So this movie to me is, I have a little bit more investment into it.

Obviously, I've been covering the UFO, UAP stuff for like the last year. I have a channel dedicated to UAP news that I do that. And we've been covering this particular story also. And my thing, what I want to see, because there's so much going on right now that not everybody realizes in Congress with getting more information about this stuff. And there's stuff with last year there was a hearing that had David Grush who and two Air Force pilots who testified in front of Congress. Chuck Schumer and rounds are going in front of Congress and saying, hey, we need to put this technology out there. We need to be able to get stuff using NHI for actual alien language inside of this in front of Congress. Congress and people aren't covering it as much, Spielberg is aware of all this stuff.

He knows the terminology. He knows everything. I really would love to see a Steven Spielberg UFO movie that is more designed around like the Post than it is, than it is War of the World. So more like investigatory? Yes, because of actually showing us like what's going on. Because the thing is, if all this stuff is happening in Congress and more of there's supposed to be another hearing in November. And if there's more and more information that is coming out, like Lou Elizondo just did this

whole thing he was on Rogan, CNN, like Fox and all these different things and starting to get more and more information out there. If more and more information starts to come out where there are actual information and Steven Spielberg puts out a movie that's kind of like old

news because like, well, we thought it could be this, this fantastical war of the world's ET thing. It's like, you've done that already. He's got an opportunity because he knows what's going on in this, that he can actually give information to people that aren't tuned into it. But

the summer release date makes me think. Yeah, it's going to be a big summer movie. Yeah. What do you, what do you feel about all this stuff? I mean, I'm like, I love serious Spielberg. Don't let me wrong. I love a good Shin Wars list. I love good saving private Ryan or, you know, even, you know, something like the terminal. I like when he does serious stuff. But I also really love fun Spielberg. I know. I miss fun Spielberg. I feel like it's been a minute since we've had fun Spielberg. So when, you know, we have David Kep coming from, you know, the OG Jurassic Park and War the Worlds more specifically, someone

who definitely knows this genre well. I would love to see a fun summer Spielberg movie, but I would also not be against it being a little bit more investigatory and maybe a balance of the two. I think that would be sublime, frankly. I feel like having that blockbuster action, that Spielberg Amblin-like feel, but then also having kind of like the investigation to everything that's going on.

I think that hybrid would work so well as a Spielberg vehicle. Well, I mean, that's even with close encounters, of the third kind when he did that movie, He actually had people involved in the Alan Heinek who ran Project Blue Book for the government and then became like one of basically an advocate of getting the real information out there. And Jacques Filet, he had them all on the team. And there was a lot that information that he put that very, we remember when the pilots come out of the ship at the very end too.

That's time related and all these things. So he knows a lot. He was just on Colbert not too long ago. talking about UAPs and everything too. And he, when you hear him and the stuff that he's actually, the knowledge that he has, the terminology, the Dave Grush side of it, the pilots, he knows. So if he puts things in there that could get more awareness,

and I think you're right, I think if you're going to put a summer movie, you got to combine it, right? You got to do, well, hey, here's some information. Here's some stuff. Put Emily Blunt in there. And then let's talk about the actual, the full story of having Coleman in there.

is that this is a really, really good actor. And combine that with Emily Blunt and... Colin Firth. I mean, so it looks like he's stacking it up to do something pretty special. I mean, I love Coleman Domingo. I feel like he's been this like undersung MVP and so many big projects.

You know, he was even in a Transformers movie, bringing it back to Transformers. You know, he was also in like a great run of episodes on Euphoria where he was just delivering phenomenal work. So to see him get all this praise for Sing Sing and Rustin and now finally get his due and be in these high profile projects, I'm all for it. He's so good. Me too. What do you guys think, man? Do you think this is something that Spielberg is going to do? Is it going to be someone mentioned in the chat that it was going to be more of like a satellite dish connecting with the aliens, maybe more contact style? That's interesting. Do you think there's going to be a shot that he does more like The Post?

Or is it going to be more of the War of the World's big Spielberg kind of alien movie with a just stellar? cast. Go ahead and put your comments in there. Tell me exactly what you think we want to hear from you. Well, Tom is the new kid on the block. We know that right now. Yesterday, Roca had 73 questions. As a right now, Tom. Small bar. As a right now, Tom, I can tell you you're at a goose egg. It's just fine. No question just yet, but I'm sure someone will throw one in there before we get out. But before we even get to anything else. We had a record the other day, but Tom, you're resting at zero. a record. We've never got a full show with zero. So there you go. Oh, wow. You know, I like to break new ground. Perfect. So let's, before we do that, let's tell you guys a little bit more about our sponsors. We've got two of them here that I wanted to let you know about. And of course, that is our friends over at

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Well, Agatha, the reactions are in for the latest Marvel show. And here's from comic book movie. Agatha All Along, social media reactions point to a slow start for an overall spellbinding new MCU TV series. So the social media embargo for Agatha All Along has lifted following yesterday's evening's premiere. And while it sounded like the series gets off to a slow start, the response is so far extremely positive. The embargo for Agatha All Along lifted a few hours ago. we have a roundup of verdicts from critics who are fortunate enough to see four of the eight episodes in advance. As you can see, the overall consensus is positive.

However, the majority seems to agree that WandaVision gets off to a, excuse me, the WandaVision follow-up. Seems to get a slow start and perhaps tries a little too hard to generate fan theories. The cast and queer teams receive a fair bit of praise, and some are, as you might expect, calling Agatha all along one of the best and most unique Marvel television projects to date. we'll see what tale that all-important rotten tomato score tells, but those of you who have had your doubts about the series can put your mind's arrest as these early verdicts are any indication of what's in store for us.

So Rohan Patel says it's another fun trek into the MCU, the first four ups set up an interesting journey, but it's the cast amazing chemistry that carries the show. Catherine Hanna's top notch, but it's Aubrey Plaza that steals the show. BSL, a devastating good time. It's the perfect way to start spooky season with a dark tone, eerie story, and fun, and son.

humble. Anthony Gagliardi says it's wickedly fun, a witchy spin-off that cast its own spell. Han is delightful, delightfully mischievous, and Joe Locke is a blast to watch, and the Coven's chemistry will leave you bewitched. And Eric Goldman, you know, Eric, first four episodes of Agatha were decent. Really dig the premiere and it's very got very Wanda Vision vibes, but second is shaky tonally. Begins to find itself more in three and four will particularly make guys who demand badass is the only setting to scream woke and cry like babies. All right, the Hollywood handle, Agatha all along, starts slowly with the first two episodes, similar to Wanda Vision's start, but once the witches begin their journey on the road,

it begins to kick off. So Alex Zintzit said he loved the first four episodes of Agatha, love them, perfect witchy vibes. Laura, fun mystery similar to Wanda Vision, where you're continually theorizing, Han is perfection. And so there's a lot of, yeah, I mean, here's the problem with all these, is that they're all at the premiere. They're all at the, you know, the big event. Little grain of salt to take with all these.

Every single time. It seems like every time one of these Marvel things show on. Yeah, hype is like insane. And then the show comes out and people like, what? Right. And even if you look like the Acolyte, when the Acolyte, all the first couple episodes of the Ackleite came out. And like, I saw the first two episodes.

When I saw the first two episodes, it's got potential. And then the potential just went down the toilet. I am not excited about this show. I love Catherine Hahn. Same. I think she's great. I never saw the need for an Agatha. Yeah, I never understood the spin-off.

No. Like, of all the characters to give a spin. I was like, all right. It was during that time, because Wondervin had come out. They had Catherine Hawn, and what's his face? Bob Chapex was handing out shows like dentist candy. Yeah. And it's like, no, let's not do that, but they got her to do it.

And then they signed her on for it. And then if you look at the success of like Werewolf by Night, which is great. I love that. I don't know why they don't do that yearly. It's so good. But maybe this is part of that yearly. Maybe. Maybe that's what there's is.

Their spooky season event. Right. And it's like just, I think that you can just maybe detach this from the MCU. I don't know. I haven't seen it. I can't speak on it. But like it doesn't, I have, I've had the first four sitting in my inbox. So I still haven't watched it for about a week.

Oh, okay. And I haven't had, I haven't had. I'm like, I'll get to it. So you're telling me you're just nervous with excitement. Is that what you're telling? I'm just, I'm just not excited about it. And I'm like, I'm like, well, maybe, you know, and maybe the other Part of it is I'll watch it when it comes out kind of week to week with everybody else instead of, I don't know yet.

Instead of knowing like all the stuff that happens before everyone else? Maybe, but maybe I'm just bullshitting myself to me. I just don't want to watch it. I think that's what really is the nitty-gritty. I just don't think you want to watch the show. Maybe, but I don't know. But then I'm also, look what we just said about Transformers One. Yeah.

I could surprise you, man. It could surprise me. I could come back and go, look, I was wrong. That tone, that tone really worked out better than I thought. Trailers did nothing for me. Yeah. same yeah they've done literally nothing for me I like the whole spooky season event thing I like the the general concept of this with like the witches and getting all

mystical like that could potentially be fun potentially but then I just feel like a lot what happens with these Marvel shows they get too caught up in the lore and then they build up all these questions that they don't really answer all of them and then it becomes underwhelming so I'm going in with the low expectations but I would love to be surprised me too I'm just I don't know the cast is good it's a good cast i just don't want another ralph boner situation which one's that what is that one division where they had quicksilver come in oh and then he ended up just being ralph bonner right right right right i was just like come on guys right right right and if they're gonna do stuff like that

it's like why um but they do feel marvel right now it does feel like it has a little bit more momentum yeah it feels a little bit what it wants to do a little bit more yeah we were talking about it on the show the last couple shows where when all that chapec do this Fige, do 75 things, and Fikey didn't have enough clones to do everything. So he, even if you look at, like, he's, you saw all this stuff with Bode Mayo, the news that came out where he was talking about the multiverse of madness stuff. So there's like, you told the actual what the movie was going to be, and the Ramey got a whole of it, so I don't want to do that. And they didn't pay attention to Wanda Vision or any of that too. And I think that he realized Fikey, that is, we can't do that.

And so now there's more of like, let's actually have a formulated plan. Okay, good, you're scaling back. We have like one or two shows a year. Definitely for the best. It's for the best. And I think this one was already one that was put into motion. And they said, well, let's give it as much love and care as we can. And I think that it can play for a Halloween thing.

And if you get some laughs out of it, great. But it's not going to move the MCU in a place where like, oh, my God, they're back. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not expecting it to be this like groundbreaking thing where it sets up this huge thing in the MCU where we're just like, oh, without Agatha, we wouldn't have all this. Like, I'm not expecting that at all. If anything, it'll just be like a fun.

side quest for the MCU. That's what it kind of feels like to me because, you know, right around the bend, we've got, you know, Captain America 4, which looks like it's going to be much more grounded and looks like it's going to be a really good time. Like there's a little bit of momentum for Marvel, which I'm excited about. There is momentum. And I see the good news for them with this show, though, is that this show doesn't hurt the momentum, even if it doesn't.

Yeah, even if it fails. Do well because it's got it, the Deadpool Marine was basically the setup to say, okay, here you go, Captain America, go. Captain America fails, they're in trouble. Yeah. But this, they, no, it's fine. But I do think that here's going on with Eric Goldman's tweet, who I like Eric a lot, but I think that it's unfair to do this

and it happened in the act like, so many times where it's like, let's say the show's just not good. How many people that say are not good now are gonna go, oh, that's just the chauvinist that says it's woke. It always goes into that avenue. It always goes into that. It's like, can't I just say a show isn't good? Right.

Like, why can't I just do that? Not to say that he's not wrong, there are gonna be people who just hate it no matter what and whatever the themes are, even if it's a good show, they're gonna say that it's bad. But to start doing that, you lump everybody into it and it's the same thing that happened to Acolyte. I don't know, did you like the Ackleight?

I hated the Akelete. Okay, but see, like, you're sex as pig. Yeah, exactly, that's like the next step, right? Let me begin my apology tour. Right. No, the main thing with that was like, it wasn't just people harping on it for like the cast. Like, yes, there was a lot of that and I saw that.

But it was a lot of people just saying, I don't like the story. I don't like the characters. Like I'm not interested. I'm not emotionally invested. That was the bandwagon I was on where I'm like, I just don't care about this show. It's not that I have a problem with anyone being cast in it.

That's, and that's, but I think that's the problem where there are people on the opposite that do have people, problems with it. And that's, and, but it shouldn't, everybody shouldn't get lumped in. Like everybody shouldn't get lumped in because if you don't like, because that's, there are, I've mentioned it many times

there's like extremes. There's extremes of people who just love everything. There's extremes of everybody who hates it, but just like, like politics, it's all about if you can get the middle to like it. If you can get the middle to like it, then your show is going to succeed. I believe that you and I are in that middle and it did not succeed. It did not succeed at all.

No, and it didn't. So now, this show could absolutely, or Agatha could deliver because, again, it has a likable cast, if it's funny. Great cast. And that was the other thing, though, too, going back to Agatha, or Accolite, rather. So that show, you can have people screaming and yelling at how much they hate it and everything, too. You put out a good show. It doesn't matter to those people. Yeah.

So same thing here. So those people who are going to have their complaints and hate it because there's gay characters or whatever to make a good show that's funny and other people love, those people will eventually just be silent. They'll scream into a void. But if the show stinks and it's not good writing, well, their voices will unfortunately be elevated. because everyone else is going to be saying. It'll blend into that whole cacophony of negative noise. Yes. It's just annoying.

And just, and the right, and not even just negative noise though, but like just regular criticism because people like, again, using the act like as an example, when you say, well, the writing, what you just said, the writing's not good, the writing's this, right, right? And then you can, if you're someone who hates it and go, see, he gets it. Yeah, exactly. And that's all of a sudden they start lumping you in with these people who like have problems with the cast. Like, no, no, no, I'm not in your camp. I just don't like the show. Nice try.

Right. And I'm hoping that this is not. Not one like mentally I hope this isn't one of those shows. I hope so too. I just hope it's a good show and that like you said people are gonna Eric's not wrong where there will be people who are just gonna be saying that it's horrible because it has a good character in it I feel like we'll know by episode two if people are on board because I feel like the first episode people are kind of right in the hype train and then like they usually like that You know well enough and then episode two is usually the maker break where people are like okay. I'm on border and I feel like this is going off the rails a little bit It's weird though Disney does this all the time they give like the first four episodes and to critics to racially show them like the tone of it and then you get something like

the penguin they gave the whole season oh the whole season the whole season because yeah that that was one that i didn't even try to get i didn't even try to get it because wow i want to watch that week to week i want that's a show that's not actually yeah i'm totally on that train i just feel like having that to look forward to every week that's i'm saying i want to watch that show every week and we're doing um you know we started doing movie reactions on this channel yeah so yeah we did uh we've done two so far did long legs didn't you and your wife do trap we did trap my wife and i yeah i saw a little bit of that that was really funny yeah we did and then uh we actually you know long legs coming out this friday we did borderlands with matt sarah and i but my wife's next one is going to be the batman

she hasn't seen the batman she watched a little bit of it that's that's gonna be a good one yeah i hope so i feel i feel like she's she bailed on it so many times oh did oh she never completed it no but she started she started like 15 minutes of it and And so I'm like you gotta watch that one because the penguin's coming out and she's like how long is it? I go three hours and she's just like it's a tough sell it's a tough sell it's a tough sell Well you know I sell it I say spend three hours together come on I'm like I'm gonna work and we're spending three hours It's quality time watching the Batman So she's coming into that one never and then my friend Sam has never seen any of the Deadpool movies

Oh wow it seen we did Logan so she's gonna do Logan and the Deadpool movies so we're gonna start doing two week probably Tuesdays and Fridays So we'll start with and the back Batman will lead into Penguin. If my wife likes the Batman, then maybe hopefully I can get her to watch the penguin week to week. I would also just love to see her still hate the Batman, but then like almost hate watch the penguin. For her, yeah. That would be so entertaining. I'm really hoping that she turns because she hasn't been able to actually like invest in that movie because you've got to invest in it. Like that's a movie that you can't just like have your tension going anywhere else.

It's a detective story. And it's like a David Fincher movie. I mean, I'm a huge Batman fan. So like to see them actually do the detective story for Batman that I really wanted like genuine like David Fincher-esque I was like hooked within like the first five minutes I was like if the whole movie can be this I'm so in and it was me too um all right so all that stuff we just talked about guys with agatha are you guys you guys are you guys are you think it's gonna deliver please let us know really want to know

your thoughts on this for sure Tom I had good news for you no longer a big goose egg oh look at we're growing guys we're growing big fat one question I love how you give the compliment and then you take it right back. Welcome to the show. Nice. Okay. All right. Here's the next one.

So if you guys want to help Tom out, at least I get the guy to ten questions. How about it? Let's get him to ten questions today. So you can go home. I give him a little prize. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. A baby won a treat?

Okay. He did good. Put you on the board. FBI. FBI and HX. HBO and FX, HBO and FX chiefs offer series. Updates, it was indeed. With the Emmys held last night, top executives from the networks and streamers were intended to talk about the success of their various shows. That includes the chiefs of two of the three big winners, FX, which dominated thanks to Shogun and the bear, and HBO, which won for numerous series, most notably hacks. Netflix was the other frequent winner last night. John Langraf, chairman of FX content and FX productions, was asked by deadline about where things are going in regards to the second season of Shogun. He says scripts and outlines are coming into, the network and they're currently trying to figure out where to film and whether they'll make

any changes to their approach for the second season. He also shoots down reports of the second and third seasons filming back to back, saying that they are separate narratives, albeit part of one continuous narrative with continuing characters. He adds he's not certain there will be three seasons, but he does feel three is the right number of seasons to really do it justice. As for the bear, he says they have finished shooting most of the fourth season, but still have a bit more to do. For now, the aim is for the series to be ready the same time next year as it was this year. He also confirmed he doesn't know if this will be the show's final season. On the HBO front, Chairman and CEO Casey Boyce offered status updates on the new seasons of multiple series. First off,

he says the third season of the White Lotus and the second season of The Last of Us are both locked to be in the current Emmy Awards qualifying window. That means both should premiere before the end of May, but a more exact date isn't known. Both shows have rap production a while back through the last of us, sorry, though, and the last of us shot a few days of exterior location pickup shots in Vancouver this week. In regards to more true detective, he says showrunner, Isla, Lopez is busy writing the next season, and he doesn't expect to return to night countries in Enis, Alaska setting, Euphoria is still on track to film its third season starting mid-January. Writing has started on the Harry Potter TV series with department heads and casting being hired.

He says they're not starting production in March as previously rumored, and a potential launch isn't likely until 2026. 2027 so tons of stuff there um let's start with the shogun did you watch show i loved show so good i just finished it recently so good it was so good seasons two and three are going to be interesting i'm curious how they're going to do it um especially after how the events kind of ended it's got a kind of like a a dune feel yeah in a certain way if i'm being honest i didn't want another season like I thought it was such a perfect season and it was like so perfectly wrapped up and I know why they want to make more season it's like their prize goose especially after the emmies I mean 18 Emmys it's insane right but like it's just I felt complete like I didn't need

more right right and it's like you almost hope what doesn't happen is that they do like a matrix you know they do two and three and it's just to do it because it was popular and it because it you know it's going to make them money but they have their creators on board they have everybody who's involved in it but they just now it's not working off of anything yeah because they burned through the source material right yeah i want to remember but i think there's some other i mean look historical events and things that they can put together but i'm curious i don't know how it's going to play but uh then you go to the bear the interesting thing for me with the bear because another show i love i love that show too yeah i liked

the third season yeah i felt like you got a lot of hate for some reason i thought it was really solid like there's some really good stuff it's not as good as the other two seasons no definitely not but it's it's definitely solid and the thing that stood out to me with this um announcement was that he said i don't know if there's going to be a final season you don't know or the contracts aren't done yet yeah yeah it's probably the latter that's exactly what it's like yeah okay you don't you haven't figured out of the contracts because you don't get rid of this show yet you take it to at least five yeah you have at least five or six yeah the other one's white lotus um i didn't watch you watch white lotus yeah i really like the white lotus a lot of people do

I think season two is actually better than season one. Okay. I've heard that before. Yeah. I've heard that before. This one I'm really excited for, mainly because of Walton Goggins is going to be in it. He's so good.

I know. He's just an MVP in anything. And anything fallout. He was great. So then, and then last of us, that one I'm so curious about because I love the first season. I love the games.

Yeah. So the game, I actually played the game while I was watching the series. And I would play. Yeah, I did the same thing. Yeah. I replayed the first game as the show was on because I wanted to see how faithful

it was and it was insanely faithful. It was. They left out some stuff. Yeah, some stuff, but nothing to get angry about. And a lot of the changes they made actually, I feel like worked better for a show than, you know, say like a game. So I'm very curious to see how they approach season two, especially since that game is very controversial, to say the least. Well, especially when there's certain things that happen in there that is going to change the dynamic of the whole show. Yes. If they do the things that we think they're going to do.

So I'm curious to see how that when that comes back, they've already showed kind of little snippets of it. Can't wait. Yeah, I mean, I'm pumped for it. And then the Harry Potter stuff makes total sense, 26, 27. You don't rush that show. It's going to be a major show. Feel bad for that cast.

They're going to have to deal with a lot of horrible questions. Having to do with like JK Rowling. And then they're going to be inevitably compared to the original cast. And then, oh, I just, I already feel bad for them in advance. And if I'm the agents to those actors, I'm probably making that, that case. I'm saying, like, when it comes to media, certain things that they have to do, certain waivers we put it in there because this thing is it's attached with with with baggage not only with all with controversy but with because like you said it's like they're immediately

going to be well you're not as good as dania rackliff yeah i mean that's the nice part about the original cast they didn't have to deal with social media right you know like i'm sure people reacted to it when it was announced but it wasn't all over twitter or facebook or instagram where you know all these vitriolic commons coming out of nowhere now it's just like as soon as they get cast it's going to be everywhere and there was no legacy beforehand it was a it was a series it was The book series wasn't even finished when they started. So, yeah, it's going to be tough for them. But then again, you know, that's the job you sign up for, even though you're probably, you're a kid.

You don't necessarily realize it. But they're going to be locked into a lot of season. That is going to be a grueling season, a grueling shoot if they're going to do, what they say, seven seasons, right? Or eight seasons, something like that. I mean, that's going to, and you're going to have to shoot in order to keep those kids young. You're going to have to shoot every damn year. You don't want a stranger thing situation. No.

This isn't going to look like 40 years old. It's like, well, even Zerning all over the place. In AARP by the time the show's done. 100%. I mean, that's like, you can't do that anymore. What was it? There was just something recently where my wife and I were talking about. Like some, oh, Greece.

And John Travolta was like 27 when he did that way. Yeah. Those are that whole era where they cast like 20, 30 year olds to play high school kids. Right. Like, weirdly worked. Like now you do it. It's just like, ugh, what are we doing here? Somebody asked me yesterday on the show,

one of my favorite musicals was. I should have Greece. Oh, you didn't say Greece? I didn't say Greece. I didn't think about it. Yeah, I know. You're asked in the moment, and I was, I think, said the original West Side Story. All right.

It's a good one. Not as good as Greece. It's not as good as Greece is awesome. But anyway, yeah, so when we talk about this, guys, what do you think, man, about all these different shows and all the things are? There are ones that stand out to you, stuff you want to see. Do you think that Shogun should have just stayed as it was or give it a shot? I need to know where my men are and my boat. Thank you.

We'll find it soon. I love that dude's voice. He's the best. He's like, Tanaga, son. I have to find out exactly where I'm going and where I'm going to be. And if you know where my men are, tell me and where is my ship. He was always asking him for his own ship. Always asked his ship.

At least once an episode, at least ones. I would love some soup and where is my ship? I mean, I could weave if you want. You can just do the voice all day. That's what I should do. Where is my ship? All right, let's get to, before we get to another story, I'll tell you guys real quick, about our friends over at Joymo and Built.

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All right. Thank you. Tom. Here we go, buddy. Ready for the next one? I have my one. I'm very, very excited for this one. I'm excited for this one, too. Here is the, we actually have a few, but before we do that, we have three now,

so you're building up there. See, your hatred of me. There's no hatred. There's no idea. I'm trying to get you to 10. That's all I'm trying to get you. But before we do that, let's get to this. this is an ongoing thing on this channel about the decisions that are made at studios,

and here is one that would have been just moronic. Beetlejuice sequel nearly went to streaming. Though it is struggling internationally, domestically, Tim Burton's Beetlejuice has been a solid success for Warner Brothers Pictures. By the end of the second week, it's pulled in over 264 million in its worldwide gross, with 180 of that from North America alone. It's also doing so from a fairly reasonable, million dollar budget. For a while there though, executives of Warner Brothers

pictures were advocating the film to go to streaming on Max according to a new feature in the New York Times. Pamela Abdi, co-chairman of Warner Brothers Motion Picture Group, says the solution was never going to work for Tim. She and co-chair Mike DeLuca, who took on the top film posts at Warner Brothers in 2022 were enthusiastic about getting the film done but knew that the budget would have to come down. Burton had estimated it would cost $147 million to make. Why? A good portion of which went to cast and producer fees, but in order to get a theatrical greenlight, it needed to come in around 100. Burton's agent spent two months making deals, but was able to get talent and most producers

to reduce their upfront payments for bigger pieces of the back end. Combined with tax incentives and shooting cost cuts, they were able to do it, and the film got made. The success for the movie marks the first completed entirely under the Deluca Abdi regime, and so far, they say the studio is buoyant on its success. Okay. So this is a win story when it comes to a lot of things. things. The first is, okay, you'd have a movie like this at the big IP, you could easily see them going like the Beverly Hills Cop route or something to do like this is an IP that was nostalgia. You don't need to do it on it. Let's put it. Spend some money on it, put it on streaming. It'll do

well, which is probably not wrong that it would do well in the same way the Beverly Hills copped it. But the argument against it would be this is a big movie that can come out in the September, October fall season. And perform huge. Perform huge, but I would have done the same thing. Why is that 147? Because this is what a lot of people don't realize with these big inflated budgets is because of stuff like this.

The producer fees, all these different things that go in there and it inflates the budget. And if you're able to, and I always say, give people points on movies. If one or at the studios, a lot of times, like, oh, we can't get points. We don't get points. Because it's so terrified that George Lucas thing

will happen again from 77, all the merch and all that stuff. And it was, we almost didn't get this movie because of again inflated budgets bad decisions overall to what they're going to do so what do you read from this story i just feel like this was tim burton just proving them wrong that it should be theatrical i think he was wrong to try to make it for that much i think that they were right to kind of combat him on that yeah but i feel like it seemed like the studio was thinking like okay this is kind of like a hocus pocus too or a beverly hills cop where yeah i think on streaming this

will have an audience and this would be fun but i feel like they were grossly underestimating the amount of people that wanted a sequel to Beetlejuice right like this fan base there's so such a huge fan base ingrained into that character into the story so I feel like him really fighting for that theatrical I mean it's right there proves in the pudding I mean the movie's done so well here and you would have known I think in the meeting in the room you're like well look we're not going to do well internationally this is this is an this is an American thing oh this is I mean every it's beetle juice is a I just think of immediately of any time you go to Universal Studios he's running around the joint and you have all the different costumes of parties to not to say that

there are people obviously that like him internationally but he's a he's more of an american thing so an american creation yeah so you have and that's probably that's probably my conversation to tim and his agent it's like look guys let's do 100 100 is a smaller budget these days because 140 we're not getting that we're not getting that audience we're not getting the international audience let's see what we can get some of the audience that some of the cast back we'll give Winona some points on it. We'll give, you know, we'll give people, Catherine, we'll give some points on the movie.

And let's do that. And it worked out, and it's a big win for the two executives at Warner Brothers because it shows, like, when you come in and you go, this is what we got done, and we delivered a hit in a season where the theatrical is tricky unless you've got these $200 million budget movies, or unless you're Blumhouse. Or it. Yeah, but it's like, and that's,

true that I don't remember how much that movie cost to make but like in general that was a big one that was a big one but this is a big win for them yeah I mean I'm amped that it's doing so well you know obviously personally I don't want another beetle juice movie at the fact that this one was actually enjoyable as a miracle in and of itself but I think seeing it do so well theatrically makes me happy because it just shows yeah that audience was there and they showed up they'll be doing another probably yeah because it's the yeah the same thing where they're gonna say hey and this is like one of Burton's biggest wins yeah

There's a huge win for him, especially after Dumbo. Oof. But that wasn't his last one. That was his last movie. Was it his last theatrical? Yeah, that was his last theatrical, I believe, was Dumbo. Because he did Wednesday. He did Wednesday, which again, but that's a big win.

Yeah, that was a big Nysik return to form. That was a huge win for Netflix and for him. But yeah, I think Dumbo was the last movie he made. I'm so surprised. I wonder, well, probably because Warner Brothers owns the title, but if I'm Netflix and I just had that whole success with him on Wednesday, I'm like, come do Beetlejuice with us. Yeah, probably enticing, kind of like a glass onion situation.

Yeah, we'll give you $700 million to make them. Yeah, we'll give you all the money you want to make this. Yeah, right. It doesn't matter. And then same, like Apple, I thought, was one of those places just spend, they do. They just spend money and they don't care. They just throw it out the window. They just don't market anything they have and they have such good stuff.

They just canceled Time Bandits. I have no idea what that is. But that's the problem. So Time Bandits was a very popular 80s movie. Okay, yeah, that I remember. And Tycoeatiti did the series. for Apple and Lisa Kudrow and yeah it's Apple you know so but it's exactly what you just said nobody knew that it existed they don't market any of their shows and it just ate it so

they canceled that but someone who is still pushing and is going to keep pushing is James Cameron well James Cameron is not the usually okay he's going to basically just retire with Avatar no not the case so he's going to do he's going to direct Hiroshima Oscar-winning filmmaker James Cameron has bought the screen rights to Charles Pellegrino's 2015 novel Last Train from Hiroshima and its forthcoming follow-up, Ghosts of Hiroshima, reports deadline. The project reportedly serve as the basis for a film titled Last Train from Hiroshima that he will direct as soon as production timeline of his avatar sequel permits him in

20073. He says that the plan is to create one uncompromising theatrical film from the two books in what will be his first non-Avatar film since Titanic in 97. The film focuses in part of the true story of a Japanese man during World War II, who survived the atomic blast at Hiroshima, got on a train to Nagasaki, and then survived the nuclear explosion in that city. In a statement to the trait, Cameron says, it's a subject that I've wanted to do a film about,

that I've been wrestling with how to do it over the years. I met Sunomo Yamaguchi, a survivor of both Hiroshima and Nagasaki, just before he died. He was in the hospital. the baton of his personal story to us. I have to do it. I can't turn away from it. Both books draw on eyewitness accounts of bomb survivors from Japanese civilians on the ground to American flyers in the air

and uses forensic archaeology to go into detail about the film and aftermath after two days in 1945. Pellegrino previously served as a science consultant to Cameron on both Titanic and Avatar. This is not going to be a light film. No. Not exactly a feel-good film. No, but or maybe it is.

Maybe it could be. It could be uplifting, yeah. I mean, it's going to be, you know, pretty, I mean, even look at the Oppenheimer scene where they, in how they do it when the bomb is dropped in that kind of crazy thing in the audience, you know, that they do and how. I love that. Just how powerful that was. I can't even imagine. And couple that with how great of a filmmaker James Cameron is. But this doesn't, this makes all the.

the sense in the world to me because James Cameron's not going to do something that he's not passionate about he's not just going to do a movie he's not going to just make a movie to make a movie yeah i mean i feel like this is such a win for a James Cameron fan just because like honestly I didn't think he was ever coming out of pandora right i felt like he was just going to be there for the rest of his life and that was it and we had to just kind of settle for his avatar films which don't get me wrong entertaining super well made but you want other james camera movies like we want the guy who made Terminator one and two and true lies in the abyss and you know uh Titanic. It's just it was a shame that he wasn't going to do anything like this.

So I'm amped that he's doing something, you know, non-Avatar again. And I feel like the story seems right up his alley. I think he could do something wonderful with this as long as he handles it with care and affection, which I think he will. And yeah, I can't wait to see what he does with this. Now, that's the thing, though, because as I was joking, Avatar, the next movie, and that he's making five of them, right? Total. Yeah, I'm curious where this window is going to be. that's what i'm saying like where yeah so we've got this the new the avatar three comes out in 2025 and then avatar four comes out on what 27 i'm assuming and then you're either going to get five in 28 or 29 unless they film them back to back so when does this movie yeah so again a low

between the two like like i like i'm curious to see when he finds time to do this thing I don't know, but this is one thing I will always say is never doubt him. Oh, never, you can never doubt him. This movie will not only, if he says it's going to get made, it will A get made and it will make $5 billion. Yeah, people who said Avatar 2 wasn't going to make, you know, money like the first one did. Nah, no, no. You can't, you can't fit against him. He's David Blaine.

Oh, 100%. He is 100% David. He could make a movie. He could say, I'm going to make a movie about this remote control, give it legs, and have it just speak a different language for four hours. And he said, I'm going to make it, make a billion dollars. It'll make a billion dollars. I feel like him and Nolan have that power. We're like, okay, a movie about Oppenheimer and like his invention of the atomic bomb.

It's like on paper, how is that going to be a box office sensation? And he turned it into this gigantic hit. And not even the invention of the bomb. Yeah. The trial about the bomb. Yeah. And it's like, and it's going to be mostly about the trial. And it's going to be almost three hours.

And it's going to make almost a billion dollars. It's insane. It's like, just get both of them a blank check call it a day. And you really, there are very few people right now. There are very few movie stars. I mean, I bring this conversation all the time, and I always challenge people to do it, and they really can't do it.

There are no movie. Back in the day, there were movie stars that could sell a movie on their name alone. It's the new Will Smith movie. It's the new Tom Cruise movie. That doesn't happen anymore. There's just, there's nobody. There's like, which actor out there right now,

it's like, oh, it's the new so-and-so movie. there's no one. It's premise. Even Tom Cruise, it's like, well, it's mission impossible because the other stuff doesn't do well. It's, you know, so, but the directors. I think the directors are the stars now. 100%. Tarantino, Nolan. I think Jordan Peel is someone now.

Oh, it's a Jordan Peel movie. What's about? Who cares? It's going to be something crazy. You know, Sean Malon had that for a while, and it's kind of faded a bit, but like there are a few directors. Scraesezzi always brings up the curiosity. You know, let's say, Killselzerl Flower Moon didn't do well, but still a great great movie generated a lot of conversation you did people saw it and it's course says he uh i mean that's why i'm curious about megalopoulos

yeah i know dude i can't imagine that not being a like a whiff but like i'm so morbidly curious about this movie that i just have to see it i want to see it also i'm supposed to see it soon and spielberg obviously is another another one who you hear spilberg movie is coming to like we were just talking about it's the ufo spielberg movie but i feel like spielberg movies don't do nearly as well as they used to mainly because he's done a lot more serious stuff yes it's true but it's still but you still your ears still perk up when you hear spilberg's doing a movie that's what i mean is that like if it's like oh spilberg's doing a movie what is it and it's still like okay well there's but you're not wrong that it's like he doesn't guarantee to get you in the the theater in the way that

he used to yeah in the way that nolan does or tarentino does you know those guys can come out with anything and people will flock that's it yeah it's true um all right so let's do it let's get to the moment of truth. Yesterday we had 73 questions. Oh wow, I love the way you're you're prefacing this. I love this. What? We got we got it.

We got to go in here. We got three. So nonetheless, we're going to start it off here today. Let's get to the first one. JD reviews. You reviewers awards coming back now. You used to watch both your channels back in the day. I loved the old videos of Tom pranking his mom and his sister.

Oh my God. Wow. How long ago was that? That was like a decade ago. probably i came about franks i don't even remember like just jumping out of closets just like popping up in the back of the car like like the fact that you remember that's incredible that's really great yeah you know you of yours was fun and i think ahead of our time yeah 100 percent like i really missed doing that and that was like a super fun thing to do but like

yeah that was like kind of in the early days where people like were doing like weren't doing like award shows like that no and it was like one of these things where it was i i'd come up with the idea and i brought it to jeremy and said let's do we'll do we'll do two on your channel, two on our channel. And we went back and forth, like part one and part three were on his. I can't remember. Either way, and we did, and we just got all of those reviewers that were together to put them together

and vote on it and stuff. And it just became a lot of work. Yeah. I can imagine. It was so much, the voting alone was what took a lot of time. Then you have to film all the segments. And have everybody bringing in the segments. We had to hire an editor at one point.

And I remember Jeremy and I both look at each other and saying, hey, I think we're done, right? And we're like, yeah, we're not doing this thing. I think we're done here. I think that's it. Okay, next question. This is from PS, Levees. Have you seen the trailer for Salem's Lot?

Favorite Stephen King novel? Love them keeping the 70s setting. King said the best moments are like classic carpenter. So I didn't see the trailer, did you? Yeah, I did actually catch it the other day. It looks really good. I mean, I know they're kind of just dumping it on HBO Max, but like it looks really well made.

It looks spooky. Like, it looks like it's going to be, faithful to King's novel and like I'm I'm interested to see this one it looks a lot better than I thought it was going to considering just going straight to max interesting so i I am always curious when it comes to me Stephen King's another one you can do it right or you can do it so wrong or so wrong I'll tell you an underrated Stephen King one that people don't talk about as much anymore as 1122 63 okay gotcha I remember that one it was it was the am i think it was amazon was that the one with franco yes okay and it was it was basically this time loop and this guy can go back to

1963 and he has to try to he he doesn't go back to November but he can go back I think it jumps him there in like January and he's got to stay there to try to stop the assassination of John of Kennedy but if he goes back at all it resets to that back to January so if he spends let's say he stays all the way to October he's like I don't want I want to go back home for a second resets to January so and he's got to do the whole thing again and say no one remembers any of the stuff that he did from beforehand so it's It's a really, it's a really good series. And I remember Mark Riley tell me how much the book was just incredible.

That was a really good one. Okay, Pete Parker, last one here. What would the main conflict be in a post-like UFO movie? How could he make it exciting? X-Files have done the cover-up story a million times. I don't think it would be cover-up. I think it would be more so about certain things that were really going on with some of the nuclear facilities, some of the stuff, the exposure, some of the whistleblowers that are coming out.

And you can make that and combine that with a, again, a fantastical thing where like the disclosure finally happens. Like, look, these things are going to happen, whether or not it's another government putting it out there first. We need to get there first. We know this information's coming out there. And then the actual event happens at the end where the thing is shown.

That's what you can lead up to and put, you know, more, or even some of the accounts that actually did happen with some of the people that supposed things that did happen and taking some of those. So that's what I would say. I'm curious to how that's going to all play out in 2026 and what the state of the world will be like. in that point. So who knows?

Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of hoping it, like, you could give that almost like a spy movie feel and then also deliver that, you know, amblin blockbuster fun that you want from a Spielberg movie, but like, I don't think it's impossible to do a hybrid of the two. I mean, look at Oppenheimer, you took that story and you made it feel like a big budget blockbuster. Yeah. Even though a majority of the movie is in rooms of people talking and it still feels propulsive and action-packed. So I feel like Spielberg can do the same thing for that kind of story. Yeah. All right, guys, we did it. It was a fun episode.

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