The Kristian Harloff Show - Ahsoka Episode 3 SPOILER DISCUSSION | Sith Council | Live

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

Ahsoka is here, episode 3 is here and Mike Kalinowski and Kristian Harloff give a full spoiler discussion on a live streamed episode with questions from the viewers!

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to Selection varian for Lugar. Stupid live show. What's up? Everybody, welcome back to the live stream

of Asoka, episode three. Mike Kalanowski is on his way in. I can see him in the chat room. He'll be in in just a second. But just to let everybody know, this is a live Sith Council and what we will be doing today

is going over the episode. I did my spoiler episode earlier, but I didn't have Mike with me. It was just how I used to do it. I'll be doing the reaction. to the episode, the immediate reactions when I watch them. And then I'm going to do a spoiler review on the next day. Mine was out a little late today because we are still shooting episodes of blah, blah, blah, blah with Katie.

And we shot a good one, had a great guest today. And we're just waiting for the strike down. Once it does, we're going to have like 20 episodes. Boom, boom, boom, boom. It's so many of them. But for this one, myself and Mike, we're going to go over it. I haven't talked to Mike yet about his thoughts on this one. I know that he liked episode one and two, so I'm not sure where he went on three.

I'm sure he has the same complaint as I do with the 32 minute episode. So we'll probably talk about that. And then there's really not a lot of other Star Wars news, even though we're going to do a Sith Council. We're just going to really kind of break down this 32 episode, anti-gravity Asoka episode. So that being said, we hope to have you guys with us for the long run here. We're going to be doing super chats, but not streamlapse today. And the sponsors are really the most important thing here, too. So if you're able to get any one of our wonderful sponsors,

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That's right, 90,000. And that's because you guys have been so great, so wonderful. And now we're doing this live one. We don't normally do live shows. We're doing one here today. with you guys. So myself, Mike Kalinowski, it is Sith Council back. Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, it is Sith Council. Big thing. Myself, Michael Kalinowski. There you go. How you doing? Good. What's going on? You hear me? Everything good?

Yeah, man. The mic sounds good. I'm going to buy into a camera, though. So let me get you for Christmas. Well, I'm on the, you know, I'm on my computer. You know, we were doing good with the pandemic. I was going to get the computer, the camera, and then we stopped doing the pandemic. So you just said whatever. I did. We've been in the studio for a year and a half now. We have.

We have. And we'll be back to the studio. And to your credit, you've been trying to figure out how to get in here early. I just wasn't here this morning. And you had to do other things. So we said, let's do it live. Eff it. We'll do it live.

We'll do it live. So we're doing it live. We're doing it live. And we're going to talk about Asoka. And I haven't, I've not talked to you about your thoughts yet. No. I gave my thoughts earlier. I mean, we both knew going into this because we had seen that list that came out. Yep. About the runtime. And what I will say is this, it's the 30, it's like 32 minutes after credits and everything. Yeah. At a minimum, these things should be 45 minutes, at a minimum. What I will say is this. I am impressed with even though it was 32 minutes.

For the 32 minutes that they put in there, I thought it was a good balance of, character development and action, even though the silly Asoka floating around in space with no gravity was ridiculous. But other than that, I thought it was a pretty good episode. What did you think? Now, hold on a second. You didn't like that? I liked it

towards the end, because she should have been floated. You can stab people with lightsabers, then they don't die, but you can cut ships in half like that. And you can flip around and you can flip around and land with no gravity

and then when it's convenient, then you can't land and you land in space. It's like, what are the rules? I got to be honest. I watched the two episodes again, and then I watched the third one. I guess it was fine to me. This episode was fine.

It seems very, and someone made it a point, someone in our kind of circle friends is talking about it. Everyone is so stoic. everyone talks and moves so slow and it's just like now again I don't know Sabine very well but she was kind of like wasn't she like the hothead like the rebel of the rebels right

it wasn't like a hot head no I mean Ezra was more of the hothead than she was she was definitely more rebel she was like a graffiti artist and yeah that's where I remember from the mid-lorian the season one that I did see she's look she's also not a kid anymore this is five years past when she was a teenager

she's a kid she lost her one of her best friends she lost her mentor in canaan she's it it ain't it ain't it ain't all happy go lucky for them so i don't i i don't blame the stoics i don't think i don't think hera is very stoic i think hara's got some maybe i don't know me and you know i don't ever critique acting i never will say that's bad i didn't like that but there's just something that's just not working for me like i buy asoka is the stoic jedi leader reserve. Everything she does is very slow. Yeah. But it seems like, you know, if someone's talking and then there's this like so and so, and then it's this, you know, hey, blah, blah. And they like, yeah, it's, it's,

the transmission was from where? Like, everyone is so. Yeah, it's slow and deliberate. I'm just like, and even, even so that it translated into the space battle, it was the most lethargic space battle we've seen. Like, there was no, the way they're on the controls and they're just kind of like with the it was like and we've seen star wars so we know what it's like when it's frenetic and there's a and i think this was directed by step green who's one of my favorite star war's director so it was a weird but so then when they get to the flippy stuff on i was like now this this is cool this is fun it was fun it was definitely fun it's just it was the i don't know people saying she had magnetic boots on and everyone makes it's the force well hey here's this i'll

tell you this i thought that too the magnetic boots and that's from star trek yeah and first contact where they're walking on the hall of the ship with the magnet boots. Well, why does she float off into space when she- Maybe her magnets didn't work. It didn't work. But it worked again. It worked again when she came flying back. I don't know.

It's okay. I mean, it's a stupid, it's a stupid plot device, but it's like she's out there flipping the sabres around and you can hear it. It doesn't matter. It was still, it was such a small, small detail of an episode that I actually really liked.

I really did like it. But I thought that it had a lot of story. and I saw someone who's like, oh, I didn't think it moved the plot along at all. And I said, I don't know what you were watching because this episode, absolutely, and so many different levels further the plot. And I listed a whole bunch of examples as far as why, even from the start, the beginning of it when they're training, that Neo and Morpheus scene, you know, she's tapping her on the shoulder.

And the droid is fantastic. I didn't realize that was David Tennant. Yeah, do you remember when we talked about that on? I know, but I'm going back to the, the, two episodes we did because we only did the out of theater reaction. I didn't talk about the two with you on a review. So I think that night, I was like, oh, that's David Tenor. I didn't know that.

Yeah, he's fantastic in it. I think that for what Hu Yang, I think is his name? Who Yang? Yep. Yeah. And then so what he's done and the personality they've given that droid stands out more so than other droids that have been there before. And I think the look and the feel and everything that's been put together in this episode really worked.

And I like that that actually Sabine wasn't like this super overdone hothead that we've seen a million times over that she's getting frustrated with Asoka. She's not frustrated with her. She's just, okay, I'll learn my lessons. I said this and I want to see. I know that we've been talking about the cliches that are going to happen. We know that the apprentice is going to turn good. Do you think so? I think so.

Yeah, they're setting it up and it's so stupid. It's like, that happens, dude. They're going to set her. Of course they're going to do that. Like, she's great. And I think, and I, she's kind of like the Vader of the series so far, the way that she's kind of set up. And people will argue that it's raised even some, but I think he's got more of like, when it comes to the Jedi side of it, he's got more, he's got more the emperor's side, even though I know that it's, um, Morgan that's running the joint. But it's their relationship just plays more that way.

And especially in this episode where she's flying around and the ships kind of trying to knock them out. But like, it's just such a setup like, okay, here we go again. another bad girl that's going to turn good. It's like, it's deeper bad. And then I'm hoping the stupidest thing that ever could happen is they make this Inquisitor, Ezra. It's like, I might shut

the television off. Now, I have definitely seen this because I love, especially with shows like this where it's heavy in the lore. I love like, you know, Alex and Lai Man, Laura Kelly, like all those guys. I love going deep and reading their stuff and watching their stuff because it provides perspective

for the stuff that I don't know so much about, but they are, Star Wars is alive with the thinking that this guy's Ezra. And not knowing a lot of what had happened, so kind of going in blind, I mean,

do you think they're doing it? It would make no sense. Okay. Just think about it. They even said it in this episode. Ezra disappeared with Thrawn. Yeah.

So if, if Balin and Morgan, if they found Ezra, what the hell are they running around with the math for? When are they just saying? Hey, where is it? Eight episodes? Eight episodes, yeah.

I'm going to make a prediction. Theron appears in episode seven. You get two episodes with him and Canaan appears or not Canaan. Ezra appears in the last episode at the end. That's it. I agree that. I agree with that. I think that's,

because again, because it's called Asoka. It's not called Rebels live action season one. Ezra and he'll be, and he'll have more of a part in season two. What I hope, again, with Ezra is that he's not the inquiscer. Please know. the stupidest decision anyone's ever made.

But I hope that they don't turn him bad because they had a chance to do that already in rebels. Just same thing. They rescue him. They find a way to do it. And maybe he dies. You know, if he, if he dies because it would make sense as far as like,

well, where the hell is he later on? And there's so many Jedi running around. So if he dies, you know, if he dies, he dies. He dies. He dies. Yeah. So either way, they'll be very interesting to see how that,

the other thing that i was gonna bring up the the the third thing that the cliche um what the hell was it we're talking about the beginning there's there's the master of the patawan the training the robot you know there's something that i talked about her uh her um with the oh the force the force now the one that i think this one if if it happens i'll be like yeah it makes sense i understand why um but wouldn't you love to see because i i really love the idea because Asoka gives her props. She knows she's a good fighter. She knows it from how she learned to sword fight through Canaan and everything, too.

And she's a good fighter. She's that not everybody can master the force right away. And Sabine's trying. And I love that they don't have her move the cup and she can't do it. I think it's great. I would love to see she never does it. She tries. She tries as hard as she can.

And she just can't do it. She's just a great fighter. She doesn't ever tune into the force. There's no way in the world that'll ever happen. Of course she'll tune into the force. something like right when she needs it but how great would that be if she can't tune in well because like you said it's the tropes we're all expecting at the cup you know i i was waiting for the little you know cup shake on the table but you can't do it um but again that's right but that's kind of what i'm

feeling though it's like what we've seen this i mean you you list neo and morphius it's the master pat around we saw with grogo and luke like it becomes a little it's a trope and it becomes a little tiresome for me. Agreed. That's how I like to see it like change to something else. Put it on its head, flip it on its head and do something differently. Hey, that would be doing great. You're not it. You're not a Jedi. And she's like, well, you know, you're better

as this. But you're a good fighter. I mean, the things that I love is when the ship, when the ship kind of falters out and Sabine's so good at tech, she has to get there. And when Soka is flipping around in space, she's there doing what she needs to do. And I love that moment with Hu Yang, even though Hu Yang is busting her chops the entire time the first thing she thinks of is I got to help him she

and so because like you can help him later because there's no use to it if we're all dead yeah little moments like that to find characters so much and my favorite scene and the whole thing is the stuff with hera and the the senator douchebag McGillicuddy like like that that guy was awesome that actor was awesome like when when she walks in and and whatever they say though you know douchebush bag McGillicudy's in there and she's like oh great here we go and there's so much in there and the emotion that Mary Elizabeth Winston shows when she're talking about Ezra and talking about how he's like, aren't you really looking for Thrawn because that's a way to extend your search for Ezra. Yeah. And she kind of flips out of him and she has that great

moment where she looks at and she's like, let me ask you. Yeah. Did you fight in the war? And he's like, no. It's like, yeah, you want to see him out on top. It's a great moment. Great moment. Yeah, it's interesting. Like, um, it's tough because I only know these characters through the rebels show, like most people, but there's something off with hair to me. Okay. And it's in the look. And I don't know if it's because the eyes are so much bigger in the cartoon.

Mm. And she has the contacts. It just looks like Mary Elizabeth Winston in makeup, whereas a, uh, Rosario Dawson doesn't to me. Okay. And I don't know because, you know, it looks more cosplay. It just, it looks like, and, and, that's not a dig at cosplay because those are so good now.

Like you see, like we saw at the fan event. There were so many people. It's like, they look so good. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what it is with like the difference between Asoka and her.

It's the character that just, I don't know. I don't know. Like, and again, um, Jennifer Beale's character in Book of Boba Fett, who was a twillick as well.

Yeah. Maybe it's the, because she's green. I don't know. Just every time I see or something. And I know it looks spot on like the cartoon. I know that. So it just.

fine just something about it for you but it just doesn't sit with me it works for me and i'll tell you what else okay is mon mothma and well she's great and everything but i love i just love this how they this play on politics again what star wars always was and it's like listen just because the good guy is one it doesn't mean that the good guys are in charge yeah you can always have greed taking over and that's essentially what happened in the um in the zon novels too it's like there was this fight for power within and and mon mothma can do whatever she can do it's the same way that there's like today's politics you know it's like you'll have somebody in there that maybe wants to fight the good fight it has a thing and brings forward a good proposition that seems like it's the rightful thing

and then everybody else around them goes nope and then it doesn't matter how powerful you are it doesn't get past and it's out and it happens all the time and um and so that's kind of what happen here. She's like, listen, we got to go find this guy. I have good data. We have people screaming, you know, long live the empire. We have all this. And I have good data that thrones back.

And this was someone who fought many, many, many battles inside of the war, won a bunch of things, has a lot of respect. And they're like, no, you're too emotional, you're too emotionally attached. We're not giving you the support. And I thought it was a great moment. No, a great scene. Like,

and again, like you've nailed it on the nail it on the head. Is that the saying? Yeah, hit the nail on the head. There it is. Yeah. Like, anytime, and it's, with the, the good thing, or I guess the testament to this show is, those scenes can be incredibly boring and if not done well. Yeah. And they're not.

So, no, I thought it was good. And it was, I don't understand that, especially that scene right there, how people don't think, like, I'll say this. We've seen in Boba Fett and in Mando, I think even in open one of our member, right, like the standalone bottle of the episode, it's like, oh, this is a, this is a filler. I mean, if people are saying that about this, I don't think they saw the right episode. Like, it's not a filler episode.

It's everything, like you eat said with one and two, you can tell there's this, an end point where they're going to, and everything is going to drive towards that. Yeah, it seems like that for sure. It's like, I mean, this was, this was another puzzle piece of the grand story. It didn't feel like some side story.

It felt like part of the story. It was, albeit short, but again, the impressive thing for me, as much as I was like, because sometimes 32-minute episode, episodes will happen. I'm like, nothing even happened. 30s and minutes, nothing happened. A lot happened in this episode. That's why I did push back to one guy's like, nothing happened to further the plot. I'm like, I don't know what you're watching. So much happened.

It was all about literally getting further in the plot. Like that's what they physically did. Yeah. Towards their goal of what they needed. And someone put in the chat, you know, and I said, by the way, I see the super chats. After we finish our discussion, I'm going to go through them and and bring them up. So don't worry. We will get to them. But I saw someone put in the fact, like the space,

Wells. The first time, like, you and Steph were happy, I'll bet. We're at baseball. Because the thing is what people don't realize, and I brought this point up and I bring it up again here with you is that I actually and I haven't talked to you about this because I took you to that

event because I wanted, as I told you, I wanted to get someone's perspective on who didn't watch rebels to see if you were lost and you came out and you said I wasn't. There were quite a few people that were lost afterwards and I was and I saw Dan Murrell's and a few other people and and I was curious because even though you didn't watch the show yeah you still

heard enough about the characters of Ezra you knew about yeah heard us talk about it so it wasn't like completely like who are these people I've never heard of them before you just didn't know the backstory behind it so that that was that was curious to hear people talking about that but I had a friend that she she wrote to me on we were talking about episodes one and two and she said I was too confused by it I think you they asked you to know too much about rebels And my counter to that was, well, isn't it the same as like episode four when you're sitting there with Obi-Wan? And he goes, the Clone Wars was this. And the- Yeah, that's the point.

You're like, well, who the hell is that? But then the funny thing is, then she wrote me for the third, which I really like this episode of part three. And I'm like, that's interesting because this one had the most rebels references, like talking about Jason Solo. Right. He pops up with his green hair. Well, Jason Sindula. That's not solo. But no, when they said that, dude, I was like, that's Jason Solo.

That's Jason, is that, they just take the name from Solo? Because that was, you know, these books aren't canon or whatever, but that's a week. Yeah, it's certainly an homage to Jane. That was it, Jane and Jason, right? It's absolutely what. It's, it is absolutely a, yeah. So I saw, what she first said, I mean, I knew that. I knew it wasn't a solo, but I was just like, wait a man, that's names, that's

Solos kid. Yeah, they named him Jason and he was. And so I saw all the fans that do love that character and how they went nuts. for him. I'll say this. He's skin. You made a good point. I think for the,

I think the reason maybe people are like that is because we know there is a rebel show. We know there is story. Like with New Hope, there wasn't anything. So we didn't have to go, oh, that's what they're talking about. Now I've got to watch that.

Right. Right. It was like, but if you don't like, if you think about it like, you're saying, so you're saying there was more in this one. I didn't feel that at all like lost.

Right. Well, not to be lost, but then that's, I don't think that any one of these episodes, like, you'll be lost. I think that people, because you just said, because they know there's rebels out there, they automatically think, well, I don't know that reference. So it must be a rebels thing.

I think that this show includes you in a way that you don't have to watch it. I think you get rewarded if you did, but there are tons of stuff like Jason. Jason Solo shows up. And like you said, Jason Solok, you're saying it. Jason Sundala shows up. And you're looking, you're going, oh, there must be Harris Kid. Yeah. And if you watch it, you don't know who it is.

nobody else really knows what it is, except if you watch the show, you know, that's Canaan's kid, you know, the relationship that they had, how much love they were, and the fact that that was a big reveal that he had, that she had this kid, and, and that's a big Rebels reference, the other stuff, the conversation that they're having with Dushbag McGillicuddy and talking about how, you know, that he was lost with, with Thrawn, and he was, and it was, that moment, we saw that moment as rebels fans. We were there for that moment when that happened and how he, how he was basically not banished, but he disappeared with them.

And then when the pergles show up, the space whales, like that was a big thing during rebels, a conversation of like, whales in space now, what's happening? And the way that, the way that Filoni moved it and that they could move in light speed and these other things and how,

like, the major, like, if you're watching it for the first time, and you see these pergels, you saw a glimpse of them in Mandalorian, and you saw a glimpse of them in episode one or two. I don't remember of this one.

But this is the first time, time you see him in live action. Yeah. There's major references. And the same thing that they were talking about, a lot of Ezra messages and, and when, when Harris says about Thrawn, that he's taken out people that I've loved and she's talking about Canaan. It's like, you know, people don't necessarily know that if they're watching it, but if you watch rebels, it hits more. So there's tons of rebels. Yeah, it's enriched for you if you were a big fan of rebels, of course, but you're not in the dark. No, no, I thought it, I thought it worked really, really well. I was, I was impressed by it. And I'll tell you guys, you know what, I'm always impressed by, and you guys should be impressed

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Definitely. We talked about how I think making it Ezra would be the dumbest decision in history of television. Now, okay, let me ask you this. Do you think in any way whatsoever he's undercover? and is working his way in to destroy them from the inside. Why would he come back? I don't know. I'm throwing this out there as the nob to rebels that doesn't know these characters

and just trying to think of what storytelling they might go down. How does he come back, though? I don't know. The whole point is that they're lost in this galaxy and they need this map. But Ezra found a way back and he decided to put on an Inquisitor's hat and start turning on his friends. Why? I don't know.

Some cockamamie freaking Cacamamey Ezra out there. Reason why. It's like the ones that I did like, I liked the Barras Offrey one it could be, but I also liked, the one I like the most is I love the Sam Whitwer

Star Killer Angle. I love that. That's Star Killers in there? A version of Gail and Merrick, you know, a version of something to where he was this kind of renowned Jedi that was coming up the ranks or Vader

found him early in his in his career and he's been hunting down the Jedi for a while and then after they all disbanded he was still fighting toe to toe with with Baylan and and then they reveal it to it's one of those reveals like who

the hell's this guy well he's a young kid that Vader found but to us like holy shit that's Star Killer and finally giving Sam Whitwer his due that would be incredible now Sam Whitwer is not underneath the costume. It's a stuntman. I can't remember the guy's name. They put it in the credits of

the episode of who played him. So the other thing was I wouldn't be mad at at all. He's just a freaking ex- Jedi. Just nobody. Just a person. Just a character. That's it.

Anytime someone a mask shows up, like, who is? Who is? It's like, sometimes it's just the bad guy. We just need henchmen. And that's, and don't turn good. Everybody turns good. It's not wrestling. It's always heel turns and face turns in Star Wars now all the time. And there's no reason.

I just think someone said that someone's America's Lizzo. It's pretty good. But either way, it's, yeah, I just, I don't know. Does there need to be a reveal? I think that the internet might be making this a reveal thing. It's not, I like the idea. I think it's going to be nothing. I hope it is.

I think it's the internet running rampant. It's like, you know, they do with DC, they do with Marvel anytime. It's part of the fun of it. But I think this is going to be a big no-no. A big no-no. So the other things that are happening, you know, they have this conversation. And between the Asoka-Sabine relationship, I like that they're not staying in the, oh, you left me.

Oh, you don't trust me. They didn't do that. They did it in episode one and two. And then they left it alone. Sabine was like, okay, I respect you as a teacher. And then they had a great moment. One of my favorite moments of the show was they're flying around in that space battle. And Sabine's on the cannons, very episode, a lot of, there's a lot of episode four references throughout this entire episode.

But episode four, and she's sitting in, she's got the cannons. And she goes, you know, if you trust me and just, and well, Soka says at first, she's like, I'm going to take your lead. She's like, you're going to take my lead. Okay, then dive. And she listens. And she doesn't, well, no, I hope you know what you're doing. And there's none of that. They trust each other.

They had their thing in one and two. They got over it. And now they're working together. We've seen it so many different times of the whole, I don't know, can I trust you? Why don't you believe in me? And then it just, that's the whole thing. And it's like, you don't need that anymore. It's like, no, they're on the same page.

They know each other. Let's get into the mission. And she listened to her with the, with the whole, with the who Yang stuff. She's like, I want to help. You're right. Don't help yet. And she doesn't like say, so he doesn't argue. She goes, you're right.

I love that dynamic. And I hope they stick with that dynamic. And because Sabine already knows what happened. She didn't listen. She ran off with the map and she lost it. The same argument could be made for Asoka. She should have went with her and let her and let her take the map so she could figure it out to trust her. So it was like, so they both learned from that.

It seems like they both learned from that scenario. Yeah. You definitely, and again, I don't know the history of it, but you definitely see the evolved relationship, which is great. Yeah. And I think that that's what, that's what has been, I think, really working for me. And I love that opening. It was that, and we should also talk about how great Morgan is, too. Just sitting on that doc, you know, looking out, just looking evil as hell.

And she's, I think she's that actually, she's, um, Bruce Lee's granddaughter. Is that, I thought it was Dan Inas Santos, who, who, trained with Bruce Lee. Is that what it is? I think it's in Asanto is the last name. Okay. I believe it was some of the train with Bruce Lee. I believe that I thought she was Dan and Asanto is her father or her grandfather goddaughter. God daughter. Oh okay. There you go. Okay. So God daughter. Dan and Asanto's goddaughter. No, I guess Bruce Lee's goddaughter because Dan and Asanto and we're friends. Dan and Asanto's daughter. Yeah. Bruce Lee is her godfather. So close. I was close. I was right. You were right. You were right. I was close. Always. Um, but nonetheless, you know, she was

So the story was that she was like a major Star Wars fan, like growing up. And after watching the Obi-Wan and Darth Vader seeing from episode four, and so it's kind of like a dream come true. And you can tell she is, she's having so much fun in this role. She's having so much fun. You can feel it. And she's on the hyperdrive thing. And she's looking out.

And I loved that moment where she's, there's, and that was another thing that was great. Normally you always see them firing at these ships. And it's like, how come they're not hitting them? And no, they didn't blow them up, but they messed them up. And they had to, and they would, like, that floated to space had like an interstellar feel to it. I'll tell you this. Watching this scene, and I gave it a little ding earlier on saying it was kind of lethargic. But, you know, how with the original space battles and New Hope, Lucas used World War II fighter footage, this felt like World War II.

Because the way that the lasers would shoot almost were like bullets. Yeah. And that rapid fire and the sound they made. So that really kind of captured the feel. And again, goes back to what Fabro is saying, you're not imitating Star Wars. You're imitating you're not, you're evoking,

you're not evoking Star Wars. You're evoking the material that's influenced Star Wars. And that's why, so that's why I kind of push back here. But that's why I kind of push back on your earlier point of that it was a little, that the, that it was a little like mundane in the, the fight, right,

or dull. I think because it did, it did have that feel of like three or whatever, three to six ships. or whatever they were coming after them. And there's only so much that they can do. But even how excited Sabine got when she was able to take out a few of them. And you knew she was going to take out the extras.

That's what that's definitely going to happen. She's not going to take out Merrick or, or what's the, what's the, what's the, apprentice's name? I never get her right. Use your words. Sinn. Baylens. Sinn.

Yeah. Same thing. Aisha says the same thing. If shin turns good, it'll ruin the series for me. She can't. I don't think she does. I think she's too. Locked.

You didn't. I mean, look at Riva. They turned Riva. They turned Riva. Yeah, but Riva's backstory with her being in a Jedi. Chode up. I was saying it on Jedi Council. They're going to turn him back.

I'll tell you this. We never talked back then about this, but I, after Solo died, I was like, you don't get redemption after killing Sol. You can't. And they did. I knew that. I made the same point. I said, you just killed Han Solo.

And they're like, well, Anakin killed all these kids. And he came back. I mean, you didn't see them and you didn't know the kids. And yes, it's shitty that he killed the kids. And it was terrible that he killed the kids and he was redeemed. But it wasn't Harrison Ford. It wasn't his character that we knew for so long. There's no coming back from that.

There was no coming back from that at all when that happened. And they did it in such a kind of silly way in the how they're teleporting in hallways and whatever they're doing. And besides that, though, you have that. And then the reverturn, we called before. the series even started the same way. You knew that was going to happen. I'll say that. Not talking about turns and stuff. Now three episodes in.

I don't know if we get those Anakin flashbacks we were hoping for. I think we will. You do. Yeah. I think they wouldn't have marketed that commercial with his voice for just the hell of it. Okay. There's going to be

I'll find out. I think there's going to be like a full episode where or at least a good a good amount. Like, Hayden Christensen has already kind of, I think, announced that he's... Yeah, but it just seems like every... We've seen now, these episodes are advancing the plot dramatically. So what would that do to the plot?

Like, did Anakin and Thron ever... Were they ever involved? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, well, in the canon books, they were anyway. It's books, though. It's never animation or... No, no, not that I've seen in the animation. I can't remember them ever...

Canon books, they have a couple interactions. Did Vader and Thron ever... or is he already gone? Yeah, I think, I think that from what I remember in the books, I think Thrawn is aware that Anakin is Vader. Okay. All right. I don't know if that ever comes into play.

But they ruined that. Deborah Chow, who I loved, ruined that whole mystery thing because, like, Obi-Wan found out Theriva? What? That was an original thing, too, from what, from what that, if you read that script, that's not how it, it's not how it happened. He discovered it on his own and figured it out. And, like, why, why, why, why,

We don't even know that he's Anakin Skywalker. That is so silly. And she's alive. Why wouldn't she tell everybody that? Silly. Silly, I tell you, silly. But they're building up. I'll tell you what they're doing well right now.

What's that? If you tell me, because for someone who's seen rebels, for someone who hasn't seen it, I know you know the character already, they're building up Thrawn really well right now. They're making them scared. like from the like the way that they're talking about them the way that you know they how it's someone like Morgan holds so much weight to go get him and that she's so powerful alone but yeah right thron's calling me and they're talking about all these

different things what's going to happen a different war is going to happen if they bring this guy back and then how he was responsible for the death of loved ones they're they're really setting them up in a very powerful way that if you haven't watched rebels if you've never seen you're like who's this strong character they're talking about like this guy This guy seems like they're setting him to be Thanos. I don't know. Because with Morgan, we don't know who's pulling her strings. So he's reached out to her to, hey, come find me?

Remember she said he's calling, he's been calling me across time? So he's basically trapped in like the phantom zone. He's trapped in a different galaxy. Now who knows what the hell he's doing out there. And who knows what, I mean, they've been gone for so long, so many years now who also knows how time works in this particular galaxy i have no idea but they're they're in a so are you saying is that what did you say the world between worlds i mean that could be involved somehow i don't know if it is though i'm not sure but like they have

yeah it's it's interesting and then and then even like germane brings up that did you see the that the senators looked at each other when herr brings up his name like they were shitting in their pants when they when you bring up throng because the guy was just responsible for so much chaos and he was, I think they say it in the trailer, the heir to the empire. He's the one that could bring everybody back. And it's one of the reasons that it's one of the reasons that they,

that there's still this love for the empire and that they're still, because they still believe that it can come back and there's still the mission to get back, the one guy that could run the whole thing. I think for people that don't know the, don't know rebels, don't know the books, we need to see some kind of what

the aftermath of what Thrawn is capable of. Right. We need to see a civilization that was wiped out, a world that was destroyed by his people, people that lived under his thumb. We have to see something like that to give those of us that don't know. I know him from the book. But 25 years ago, it's not even planning anymore. Teasing how scary the boogeyman is, show me how scary he really is.

Like with Jaws. Yeah. You saw little boy getting killed, the small things that built to him coming back. So when you finally were revealed, you are terrified of this. terrified of it because we need to see something that is he just can't be methodic he's he's supposed to be method he's supposed to be kind of like very like one note mundane you know and right that voice that's just so scary he's got that he's got that thing that he's just it's and and i think laurs mickleson did a great job in rebels and i'm very curious how he's going to play him in live action i do hope

i'm pretty sure you i think you're right though i think you're going to get him in in seven and eight and you'll get Ezra in eight um but it would be what would be devastating is if they find it if they go and they have like a really tragic moment they find that that that isra's dead and that's why me and the mosaid didn't take the rule the role because he's dead because he's dead and it's just a it's just a hologram they go to find him and he's and he's gone already like that would be the most devastating choice and also show you like thron thron found away and thrown killed them like how who knows and people probably call foul because like really got rid of Ezra that easy but I would much if you're going to ask me would you rather see Ezra killed off

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So please give it a consider. That's how you help the show out today. All right, Mike. So we got some things coming up. other thing that I loved was Baylon at the end because they, they, they, not crash, but they land on that planet. Was that, what's the planet? So I'm going to quiz you, I do.

Oh, here we go. Come on now. What's the name of the, what was the planet that, uh, that, that, that's that, that, that's the planet that, uh, that, that, someone will say in the comments. Hold on. Don't, don't, don't, let me get this. Hold on. It's not how's named prime.

That's the system of it blew up. It's star killer base is on. You're going to get nailed here. Someone's going to get you before. I know. Star killer base is on. on I thought I'lliam no that doesn't sound right maybe I don't know what it is what are people saying in the chat so far just I'lliam and it's not Dathamere but no that's that's where so from

solo that's with Darth mall they're saying nobody knows circular base was saying it's I'm it's it liam but is that was is it I don't know um all right well it looked it kind of looked like across this planet looked like a cross between that that you know when they when they when they land hon solo and uh yeah it looked like that you know in that area when they like they're in a force we have four or something yeah well that's where that's where the battle was with uh ray and kailorren the first you know it's illum illum a you've been to illam they got a good pizza shop in the in the in the backs of the back of the forest um but i like how they just kind of pulled that move, let's just shut everything down.

And Liu Yang was like, oh, come on, you shut me down. He's like, and again, another moment that I love. She's like, we have to. And he's like, all right. We got it. And he got it. He understood. And then when he woke up and realized, and they asked them, they were going through

the technology and what it was, he's like, well, the only way to be able to do that is like space wells. Oh, funny you say that. We just saw something. He's like, really? I've always wanted to see him. It was a great moment. It was a great moment.

So. Yeah, you were a spacewell, so. Yeah, I thought that was, I thought that was good. And then they had Bay, who's, you know, somebody, this is what somebody wrote, that what if it was Baylon that turned good? Because out of everyone, out of everyone set up thus far, he, he has made a couple comments that make you go, huh? Like, you know, you know that comment when he's like, when he's talking? Yeah, but he's, so he's a mercenary.

So he's going to go where the money is. And any time in these stories, I'm not saying Star Wars, you see the mercenary that realizes the error of their ways. Like, really, I'm taking money. and these people are all dying. Yeah, all right. I could see him changing more than her. But how about this? How about we don't have anyone get redemption?

I'm with you. Bad people are just bad. I love that. And I hope that I would prefer that. But if there was anyone that was going to turn at all, that's the one I would go, okay, because for a lot of different reasons. And because they set it up already where Morgan's like,

what, you don't want, whatever she said, you don't want to kill the Jedi. You know, seem like you, you don't want, you're, right. I forget it was sentimental or whatever. And he goes, that's in the middle of truth. You know, he just, there's just so few of them left. Yeah. And he doesn't want to kill him.

He doesn't want to kill him. And because it's what he comes from. And he's not, he's not like this kind of just murderous lunatic. Right. He just, he's got an agenda for power. You know, anybody doesn't, he'll, he will take them all out of he has to, but he doesn't want to. And maybe they lead into that.

And the other reason is Ray Stevenson, Ray Stevenson going out, you know, as a good guy and for his last role ever, you know, or at least I don't know if he, if he recorded other things that'll come out later. But one of the last roles and if he goes out as a good guy, I'd be okay with that, you know, but I agree with you. I would prefer the, just keep them all bad.

You don't need a turn. You don't need to turn everybody. It just looks like it's also kind of set up where there's this little rift kind of between what's her name shin shin yeah so shin and um and morgan oh yeah yeah there seems a little something there's a little thing there

and like so if she's going to turn i i just please don't turn her please it's like see that's i just don't seeing it is they have the that tension between the two of them between um morgan and shin like i don't see a turn happening there I could say okay all right now if we're going to talk turn I see if we raise Stevenson's turn I see her shouldn't killing him that would be really siding with Morgan like doubling down on it right that that that that because there's something about there's something honorable still about bailin there is right now there's just there's kind of honor maybe and maybe that's Ray Stevenson is an actor bringing something with it that

a different actor in the role I wouldn't be seeing agreed I think I think it's a nice layer to his performance. Well, he's defining the character, right? He's defining who the, like, I love the idea that you get this guy who's an ex- Jedi, you know, and he's, he clearly will take you out in a heartbeat, look at you that captain on the ship, right? But he's still, he's got a respect for the Jedi order. He has a respect for what it was. And like, I want to learn more about him. I want to learn, like, there's that moment inside the trailer where he knows about Anakin. He knows, like, it's one thing if you know about him now. If you know the story that Anakin went to the dark side and become Vader after it all went down and, you know,

the things start to come out. That makes sense that you start to hear a little bit more about it. So if he knows about the Anakin and Vader turn and all that, so be it. But I, like, I want, I want more of those kind of conversations. That's why I want more of these 45-minute, 50-minute episodes. Let us, let us really stick with it. And also, let us bounce back and forth from the different characters and build it up. Let me get some more imperial or new Republic scenes. Let me get some more those and all of those conversations and then get me back like there's got to be that's these please stop with these stupid 32 minute episodes stick to 45 you got it um we did get some questions mike we got a few super chats that came in so i'm gonna go i'm gonna go through them as we

any other final thoughts about this episode as i look through them like no i you know um it kept me engaged so that's always a plus like i you know It feels like Star Wars to me. Like it just, it does feel like Star Wars. It does, it's a nice, you know. So was it too, was it just that it was too short for you? Is that, is that what it was that? Because you seem, as you're talking about it, it seems like you liked it.

No, I'm not not saying I don't like the show. Yeah. The episode I mean. The episode itself. No, I enjoyed it. Yeah. But it's tough. Like, because it's hard.

I feel like we're in the middle of something. and like with Andor like you I watched it I graded it as a whole whereas as old mando Mando and Boba Fett individual episodes

oh this is fantastic oh this thing and that's wasn't good this I feel like you said we're building and they know where they're going we're not going to meander anywhere I think they're going to land the ending

I don't think it's going to be one of those ones we're going to be at episode seven we're like they got one episode to wrap this up and they're screw he knows where it's going so I feel like I can't give a fair assessment of it because it's it's a puzzle piece of this story that right right it could it's it's

very similar when we were watching like the mandolorean season like it was one or two here it is yeah i'm never going to watch pop in one episode of this show and watch just that one episode like mando i do that all the time right this i'm going to watch it all together sit down over over a couple days and watch it all as one thing like with and or it's certainly leading to you know the the the bigger picture which is hopefully another season of asoka the other thing i was like they had like it's like 15 million viewers i think watched the first episode and then i saw things where people are saying that was under mandolarian just better than and or whatever it was to and people are calling it a flop and saying it's like what are you talking about like that's not what are you

talking about that's like it's not not everything's going to do the numbers like mandolian do right way it's not it doesn't have that kind of thing and the other thing they don't realize about and or that i keep trying to tell people tv streaming numbers are not the same as opening weekend box office. Please get that through your heads. It's like trying to compare. Not as people to watch. Andor bombed.

I saw someone recently said, well, Andor bombed. Andrew did not bomb. Andrew had a, it was one of these things where it had a, it had a, it had a spot itself. People were like,

okay, I don't know what this is. It does Android words, a character from Rogue One. And then the word of mouth started hitting. And the difference is with streaming and the movies are, with streaming, you already have Disney Plus.

and if you go, okay, I already subscribe to Disney Plus. I'm not going to watch Android. I don't know what this is. And then your friend goes, you should watch Andrew. It's amazing. Well, I'm already subscribed. They're paying for it already. I'll check it out and see if I like an episode.

And you watch the movies, bless you. The movies you have like, you know, okay, so I saw there's a movie out. I don't want to see it. All right, I go spend $15 out of my pocket now to go see it. And then I don't like it. You just wasted $15. At least you feel that way. So it's like you don't take that risk.

if it doesn't do well in that opening month or whatever too, it's a, and it's gone. Streaming numbers, if it, like, look at like, Battlestar Galactica is still doing good streaming numbers. It shows been off the air for 16 years. That's the thing, like, it's hard to, people want to latch on to something that,

that's, you know, a narrative that's there that's not there. Right. Yeah, it's, it's bizarre. All right, let's get to some of these questions. Here's the first one. Stubby Juan Canobi. What's up? Stubby one. but Soku was wearing a jet pack and sparks fly from it showing that it malfunctioned.

Sure. I mean, if that is the case, we need to see that. We need to see a shot of that thing working. I guess. It's still, it was, I don't know. It's funny. You hated that moment. I thought it.

I hated it. It just played silly to me. When she's, it played less silly to me when she started floating around in space. I'm like, all right. And I actually thought it was a humorous moment where she's just like, all right, why don't you come get me? For me, the funniest thing was how fast you got dressed in that thing. It's right.

Pretty quick. Pretty pretty quick. But I get it. I get storytelling. I know. I know. I had to. Kenneth Colton, I can't get past a chance to, I can't pass a chance to send an donation.

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We're trying to aim for 100. We're going to get there. We're going to get there. So thank you for that, very kind of you. All right. lose your nerd this episode did its job for me and left me wanting more i hope we see asra trained jason to be a jason asoka is my star wars car wars car i mean risario dawson is a is a great actress and a very attractive woman so i understand that crush for sure but she um she also

she i like what she's doing with asoka and i think that i don't know as we're training jason i jason could take on the role of jason solo and kind of because jason solo in the books went to the dark side from what I remember or was it jane out so long ago but either way like him him i could see going to the dark side if her hair losing losing and i it runs into another trope like how many parents got to lose how many parents you lose the dark side i get it but he wants i mean the kid wants to be a good eye so it's it's dark road but i think maybe maybe they take him to the academy maybe they take him to the academy to train with luke so Um, okay, let's see.

Is this, we did that one? So I agree with you that the, the episode did his job for me too. I saw, it was so weird. I saw some comment going, stop being negative on the, on the episode, one of the spoiler, Mike, did you, and I always do this now. If someone says something stupid, I go, I think you comments it on the wrong video. And so I write to them now. It's like, the whole time I'm talking about how much it was.

I think people have a default setting that that's there to make ago, even if you give some criticism. It doesn't mean you hated the episode, even if you criticized certain bits of it. Yeah, no, I mean, I'm always going to do that. Spades, massive fan from New Zealand. Thanks, man. Do you think Zeb is going to be brought in as a key character or maybe a surprise appearance near the finale? Zeb, I think it would have been more of like a, I don't know,

if it hadn't been for Mandalorian. I mean, he shows up in Mandalorian. So I think he's going to show. I don't know. I think that was more of a like, we're going to put him in here. He'll feed fit here. I don't know. I don't know.

I think they will. I think there's a reason why he was testing him out in Mandalorian because they're going to bring him in. I don't think he would debut him in there just that's the only place you're going to see him. Now, the question is, will Callis be with him? And will they,

I do think it's more of what you just said, though. I think it's more of like he shows up maybe towards the end, and I think maybe you get him more involved in season two. Miguel Nuva, Leah Hahn, and Luke would fit into this story. The answer to that is yes, they would. as far as how it all plays in the chronological order of Star Wars, you're absolutely right. There was a book about it.

Then, yeah, they would absolutely get involved. It's only five or six years after Jedi. They're still pretty young. And the problem is the deep fake stuff is the word is that they're not going to do it as much anymore. I heard the guy that they hired doesn't work with them anymore. It's not even there anymore. Yeah. So I don't know.

quick like yeah I'm out from what I heard is that Kathleen and I don't know how true this is but Kathleen Kennedy doesn't want Luke Skywalker in it anymore she doesn't want to do deep fake stuff anymore I don't know I don't know so the answer to your question is yes it would make sense but I very downful very downful all right Ronan Unchain what's up man hey Christian and Mark part three was stellar it balances the mentorship the political landscape of the new republic and the race to find Thron and Ezra I could

couldn't agree more. That's well said. I mean, you had three major plot points. Yeah. Throwing in Morgan Ellsbeth and the bad guys. And in 32 minutes, you know, maybe that's the thing. Maybe they looked at, hey, it told the story we needed to tell. We're not going to pat it for no reason.

It was impressive that they were able to fit in that much. Good point. My counter that is just. You want more. You can just get more with 12 more minutes. 12 more minutes is all you needed. Ismail Montaigne? when do you guys think the New Republic

will get involved to help Asoka? I wouldn't mind that this is more of an espionage season instead of a battle. I think it is definitely going to be more of an espionage. I don't know if the New Republic is going to get involved. I wouldn't be surprised if Dushbag McGillicuddy is one of Thrawn's dudes. Oh, little wolf and sheep's clothing, as it were?

I think so. Yeah, seeing is what happened second episode with them still around and all that kind of stuff. He might have spies in the New Republic. Why wouldn't he? If he's got them all over that shipping are when they say he is. Why wouldn't he have senators? I mean, look, again, look at the landscape that we're in today.

I mean, you see a bunch of the people that are all over the news working for Thron. All right. So here's the next one. So, yeah, I'm very curious to how they're going to do that. But I don't think the New Republic is going to get involved. I think maybe, maybe Mon Motha gives Hara a kind of a couple ships to fight. But I don't know. Yeah.

All right. I think Ronan follows up. I love that Mon Mothmo was letting democracy go about, but without saying much, she believes her as word, plus the danger if Thrawn is alive. Yeah, she's just kind of,

she's kind of in the background. There's only so much that she can do, you know, and that's, that, I think is very interesting. I think also she realizes what it was like under Palpatine, like when you've got this absolute ruler,

so it's a democracy, and you don't always agree with what your counterparts say is, you know, but they are a democracy for a reason. You have a say, and everyone has an equal say in a vote. So, yeah. It's great.

So this is, this is more you than me. Yeah. Jay Jab Dev, a Jedi fighting in space, that shit was beautiful. I get it. I agree. That was cool as shit. I think a lot of people did. And that was the only, I don't know why I was just watching on it.

She's on the wing of a starship in the middle of space. Flipping around. Deflecting lasers. I dug it. Yeah, flipping. Flip it for real. Steph Ponzi. Sherwood Mway could use force abilities,

but is attuned to force and stronger because of it. Maybe seeing as stronger in this way without abilities. That would be great. Okay. That would be great if they did that. If they were able to play that inside of the same way they did with him, that would be amazing. I just,

another trained Jedi in force, it just becomes like, how many were there? No, I did. Yeah. And did she go and train with Luke also? That would be great. Who knows?

I don't know. What's the deal with all these mentors and Jedi? Are they around? She's good. She's bad. I mean, come on. With her mind. I mean, come on.

What's the deal? Thank you for everybody, by the way, who's putting in these super chats. We weren't even inspecting it today. So a lot of people throwing in questions. Really great and really appreciate it. We'll take the questions until you want to stop sending them. Stuby on Kenobi. Redemption is a vital plot beat in every Star Wars story.

If done correctly, it works every time. Yeah, but when it doesn't, it works terribly. Also, Assoca being Stoic works. I agree with you. I couldn't imagine being Snips. I couldn't imagine Snips being Sabine's master. And she's gone through too much. She's got, I mean, to all the stuff.

And that's why I do see why she's like that, but it just seemed like Hara and Sabine were also these kind of stoic. Hera too. And again, it was more of the delivery of the lines that they've got than the character. So it just seemed like everyone was kind of imitating. Rizardo Dawson to appear first of all step one thank you for the very generous donation i was very kind of you um but i i mean like i said the redemption it's a vital plot in every star wars movie and in project and it's like sure but it's like when does it get tiresome and when

does it get predictable that's the problem is when it starts to get predictable like when mike and i don't even want i mean and step we don't even watch obiwana and we're like that riva's turning good you just saw i mean if anybody didn't see that coming from a mile away it's like it's i mean that's the reason why with certain things and a lot of franchises do realize it like man we've seen our guy do this X amount of times we got to do something different. And change it up.

LGP vintage toys, Greetings Masters, Osama bleeds Star Wars love it. I mean, you can't argue with that no matter what. No, you cannot argue with that. It is Star Wars. It is Star Wars all over the place. I mean, there's so... And I'd even say this. It's Star Wars

with the clunky dialogue. There's some clunky dialogue in there. that Sabine had to deliver. And I'm kind of like, but it's Star Wars. It's some Lucas dialogue. We've been there. We've been on this path before. There's some Lucas dialogue.

I'll say that. For sure. And I think, and I wonder if it's deliberate because I, again, yeah, could it be? Here's one of the things that I will say.

I think this is about a Star Wars that it gets. And I think that it has, what Mandalorian 3 was missing is it has a full on story that I'm really digging. And Flonie really knows the essence of Star Wars. I think that Philoni's, biggest detriment. I think his biggest problem is that, and this is going to sound ludicrous to say,

I think he holds too close to what Lucas do. Yeah, I think that he, I don't think, I think he won't venture off. I think that this whole 32, 33 minute thing is a he thing. I think it's a him. I think that even from Mandalorian, the whole stronger, faster, more intense. I think that's

a Lucas thing. I think it's silly. I think that I wouldn't be surprised If you looked at, if you looked at certain things, I would, I would guess that he's not an Andorffan if I was to guess. I have no merit in that, but I would guess, I would guess that that was the case. Because like you, that those were, there's one episode that was like 34 minutes, but the rest of them are like 50 minutes, whatever, too, and is dialogue heavy. And it's about as far away from George Lucas Star Wars as possible. And I think that sometimes he holds a little too close to the vest on the Lucas thing, that I love the essence of it. love that quote of the whole thing with um of him and favor of the homage to star wars and doing

what george did the things that inspired star wars and that's what they do really well like he does that really really really well but i think sometimes he holds it a little bit too close to the and doesn't break the the lucas stamp and i think that you can see it sometimes with the dialogue and other things um all right let's see so where was the other one oh Andrei Armini with a very nice super chat as well. Thank you, Andre. I'm not really liking us, so can I blame Andor? Here you go.

I thought that not every Star Wars movie should be like Star Wars media, excuse me, should be like Andrew, but I'm changing my opinion. Can you imagine the writers of Andor could do with Thrawn? Look, I get it. I get it. Yeah, I'm with it. Andrew kind of ruined me for Star Wars because of...

But we said it, though, with that. I know. Everything can't be because here's the thing also, is that... You're right. You also got to understand in where, what I was just talking about, one of the things that I think is a positive and a negative inside of holding on to Lucas thing is that Lucas made Star Wars for kids, right? So there's Andor is not for kids. It's not. It's not for children.

There's nothing inside Android that is for kids. It's an adult-based Star Wars spy thriller. And it's, I mean, the opening scene alone feels more like Blade Runner than anything else. And I love Andor. So I probably, I still think it's the best word. show best written star wars piece since empire strikes back hands down um but this is way more of those kind of star wars fun feel like you can watch with the family you can watch with kids you can have you know it's like even though i don't love the moment like a 10 year old watching asoka

flipping space with sabers is more exciting than and or and scars guard having a conversation about rebellion it just that's that's the thing so you got to have that I think you need it. I agree with you. I would love to see Tony Gilroy write a scene for Thrawn, and I would love to see someone like that in that universe. And I think that they should do more stuff like that. But I do think that I also think that Falunni's got a lot of say in the Star Wars world,

and I think you're going to see more stuff in the vein of Asoka than you are going to see Andor. So do I mean Andor is quality or show type? I don't know what that means. Do you mean Andor is quality or show type? Do you know what that means? I think he means, like, in the sense of its quality, like how we don't think it's Star Wars, how it's kind of this elevated or show type as in, I'm trying to, how am I going to word this? Like the pulpy feel of Star Wars.

It doesn't. I can be wrong than that. Andrew doesn't have the Pulpy feel at all. No, it doesn't. Yeah. If that's, this feels more. But again, I don't really feel like this, this doesn't fit with the boat with Mando. You don't think Osaka fits Amanda?

It feels closer to Mando, but I feel like it's its own thing. It just kind of has this, because there's higher stakes. I feel a little bit more of the tension and the drama. Right. It doesn't feel Saturday morning cliphanger to me like Mando does. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, it's, it's a, it's a spot between Mando and or for me with this show so far. Yeah.

Oh, so look, and this is, this is a good point too. This 50-year-old dude would rather see Mr. Joseph B is talking about himself saying, This 50-year-old dude would rather see Asoka flipping through space than old dude's talking. That's what that's what our track is for. Hey, fair enough. Fair enough. It's a good point. Yeah. I mean, it depends on what you want, right? Wicked art, the great wicked art. My wife and two daughters are hooked on Assova, especially my wife. She isn't a big Star Wars fan. Glad I have something for the whole family isn't due for once. And that's that's kind of my point, right? So like, you need that stuff for people with families as well too. And I do think, and I hope, I hope that there's not a mistake where they don't do shows like and or because they don't feel it's inside of the lucas realm i think that's a major mistake and i know that we're getting season two but they should do

do more like you alacquite might gear a little more that way i could be completely wrong could be i hope so but um i don't know we i mean who even knows when that show's coming out with you know with the strike and everything too and 2027 maybe um Aaron coronado just sends in a 999 super chat Thanks, man. Very, very appreciative of that. Thank you guys to everybody who's joining us on this live stream. It's been, I'm, I've been shocked. There's Aaron again. Do you think Ezra is being held captive by Thrawn and left over stormtroopers and using his force ability to communicate? It's possible. It's definitely possible to see what, you know, what Ezra's doing out there too, because it can't, it can't just be Thrawn as communicating, right? He's got to, that's why it's either, or maybe that you're doing it, like something happened. I'm going to watch that scene again where the two of them dissoning. disappear and like they disappear together like what happens i mean i'm sure phloney i always had an

idea for but you have any idea i have no clue i didn't watch rebels fair enough hey mike and i show went ran five seasons a lot of involved what do you happen to them stubby one canoby i might a nitpicked you again i nitpicked you a bit but i'm here for all the shows and i've been here shmose no and love their admit it's very kind hey nitpick it's okay and i don't mind i don't mind when people are having conversations but i don't mind when people are having conversations and and disagreements and criticisms like real criticism i i love that on this channel and always have loved that it's it's just and i will say this so mary came on the show the other day right and this channel is just so different than other channels i've been on in the past

whether it was collider schmose anything to the chat i was never i was never worried about the comment section. I was always worried about the comment section when guests came in to live chats, whether there's Collider or Schmo's and I was like, and I was always worried about it. The comments were so nice, they were so respectful. They were like, there was just like, it was, I don't know, just that there's a different vibe on this channel in general. And I'm really appreciative to all you who have been, who've been contributing to that. So thank you.

Thank you. Terry again ten ten dollar super chat very kind it felt like episode three could have been the start of an episode versus a whole one so as a short I agree I feel you know he's not wrong we'll get into it I feel like sometimes modern TV shows treat seasons like one long story and don't give episode his own three acts I mean I think that that's true to both of it right like I agree with him 100% you could have that 32 minutes when they end in the forest whatever the next 32 minutes are that could have been a full episode. In the same way the Mandalorian could have done that also.

But you could have, like all that lead up leading to the forest, I think it'll like a, oh, you don't watch Game of Thrones either, but like if you get to a spot where they land into the forest, and then that's the first half of the episode, and then you lead into the second half, it's a great episode. It's a fantastic, if this episode had another 30 minutes to it with a big climax, considering what we got in that first half, this is a fantastic episode. No?

Yeah, I see that. I get your point, but hey, but I'll say this. This is nothing new. We're used to this storytelling method with them. So whoever's in charge of it, they've dubbed this their thing, and that's what they do. Nico Adele, what series of episodes should I watch in Rebels to appreciate this better without watching all of it? You all are awesome. So, Nico, I think that there's a guide of a few, I think even official Star Wars tweeted out something.

I think Flonie gave something. And if you guys know in the chat, whatever. it is please post it in the chat but i think there's like a there's like at least six ones that you should watch to really catch up with all of it and i don't i'm sure if you do a google search you can find it but i don't know them offhand but there are there are like a few different guides of different people who have who have done that to um to let people know exactly like where to watch because i think that would be helpful to to catch up especially like the jason sol like the jason solos i keep saying jason solos but the jason sundala stuff also um

Ed says as Kylo yelled more, more, more Sith Council live shows, please. Almost 600 of us here happy as F right now. What's up, guys? Thank you. I appreciate it. Look, this was something that kind of came about because Mike was going to come into the studio. We couldn't make it happen.

And I was, look, you want to go live? And he was like, yeah, I can make it live tonight. And I figured it worked out. So I'm glad that you guys are able to join us. And yeah, very appreciative of it. J.J.J. deaf love the training scene droid was showing her different styles of fighting yeah i love that too the different when they went into the different lightsaber yeah that was awesome sook's ship is badass the way

it flips reminds me of sea creature i'm telling you there are little things in here that people are overlooking there are little the little details that i think are really put out there that um that i think are spectacular you know all right let's see haskell 420 again and or is akin to opanimer yeah it's long and has a lot of talking in it but all that talk and build up in it was riveting as yeah 100% man 100% i i i really want to watch and or again and there was a very special show it was a very very special show and i think it's i think that the second season is going to be it's going to do very well in the ratings much better than the first season that when it first came out so um yeah man uh that's uh that's very very it's a very good point the the lead up to it and the build up to it. And I liked how Mike and I talked about on every Sith Council like that. It's that slow burn, you know, that's slow burn. All right, guys, look, we did it.

We caught everybody's super chats here. We talked about Asoka and we got into it and we'll get into it next week. I mean, I would love for the strike to be over next week so we get Steph back to because I would love to get her thoughts on the show. I haven't talked about. Have you talked about Asoka at all? I have not. I'd love to get her thoughts.

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