The Kristian Harloff Show - Ahsoka first reactions are in and it gets a new schedule and time change!
Episode Date: August 18, 2023Join the website here! http://www.thekristianharloff.com Ahsoka was screened last night and a bunch of critics had a chance to see it. The first reactions are in. I give my reaction to eps 1 and 2. T...he release day for the series has changed as well as the time. Is this good or bad? Ewan McGregor has been pushing for a season 2 of the star Wars series says director Deborah Chow. should it happen? Should it be a movie? Blue Beetle is targeting a 30 million dollar opening, can it deliver? Rebel Moon gets a trailer release date, The Flash hits streaming soon. this and more on today's Big Thing with Kristian Harloff. #ahsoka #starwars #kenobi #movies #DC #DCU #Bluebeetle
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Asoka, I saw episodes one and two last night.
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I can only give my same type of social reaction that I did with Mike.
That's on the channel if you want to watch that.
But some of the news happening with Assoca, I think this is great news.
The first part of it is that they're pushing it until Tuesday.
The show's going to come out on Tuesdays now, which you're like, okay, great, Tuesday at midnight.
Tuesday at 6 p.m.
I think this is a great choice.
I hope they do this with their Star Wars series, with their Marvel series, and get rid of that silly 12 a.m.
model that they were going for.
I don't know what that was all about.
I hope that this is the end of it.
And I hope Asoka is the one that starts it off.
We got some other topics to talk about.
Also, there's some news with Zach Snyder.
He said he's going to give us some information about when that first trailer for Rebel Moon is coming.
And I mentioned the Flash, by the way.
The Flash is coming to streaming pretty soon.
Also talking about, hey, look, this thing is supposed to come out in whatever date it was,
and now here it is.
Percy Jackson, the streaming series for Disney gets announced.
and it's coming out in December.
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But normally what I'll be doing during Asoka is I watch the episode. I'll do an immediate reaction.
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40 or 1 a.m.
whenever the episode was done and put it on the channel.
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All right, this is some news, man.
I really like this news.
At first I saw Assoca has moved up to Tuesday nights.
I was reading Dark Horizons.
And Asoka has moved up to Tuesday nights.
and it says Disney Plus has announced a change to its release strategy for Star Wars series
starting with Star Wars Asoka next week.
Now, instead of premiering at midnight, 3 a.m. on the East Coast on Wednesdays,
new episodes of Star Wars are going to kick off on Tuesdays from August 22nd.
Specifically, episodes are going to launch now at 6 p.m. 9 p.m. for the East Coast, peeps.
So North Americans' family will be able to watch them at a reasonable evening hour.
Meanwhile, early reactions for the first few episodes are rolling out across social media with plenty of praise for the actors and good impressions, but also suggest issues with pacing.
I disagree with that entirely.
God, I disagree with that so much.
I saw that, and I'll talk about that in the second.
I love Jermaine.
Jermaine's a buddy of mine, but he said, I think Asoka has a lot of potential.
As a Rebel's fan, I felt a connection that was special, and yet it's hugely epic and sometimes oddly flat.
I disagree with Jermaine.
Again, love Jermaine.
He's a good buddy of mine, but I disagree with him.
Sabine is the standout through
through and by episode two
I was sucked in. That I agree with
and it could go south but I don't think it will.
I also agree with that.
All reviews confirm it's pretty much a Star Wars Rebel sequel
with some questioning how it'll play for those
unfamiliar with the animated series. Meanwhile the first
clip, yada, yada, yada. Okay, so there's
some stuff to be talked about there for sure.
The pacing stuff
and I don't know if the Dark Horizons was just
specifically because that's who I was thinking of because I watched
Jermaine is a guy that when he goes to the
cons and celebration. I'm not able to go. I'm following his stuff because he gives great updates
and he's really locked into all of it. So I was actually sitting in front of him last night
and I didn't get a chance to talk to him about it afterwards. But the pacing I saw from him and I saw
from Laura Kelly who kind of equated it to Andor, which is what I liked about andor. It had
time to marinate. There are moments sometimes where it's like it holds on a shot for a little bit
and it's a 52 or 53 minute episode,
and it takes its time to give you the atmosphere
and to give you what the characters are feeling.
It's not rush, rush, rush, go, go, go, shoot, shoot, fly, fly.
And it's like, yes, just, it has all that stuff.
But take your time.
That's what I was hoping for it.
Mandalorian 3 was like smooth at such a pace
that you're just like you couldn't connect with anybody
and it didn't, the speeches were cut down and all this.
And it's like, no, hold on it.
Hold on the moments.
and I thought the pacing was great for Asoka, at least episode one and two.
So I love what they're doing, though, with the shift.
Whether it's Tuesday or Wednesday, it doesn't make a difference to me, whether it's Tuesday or Wednesday.
But what I will say, what's great is that this Tuesday at 6 p.m. thing, I mean, that's what House of the Dragon did.
And it was a very smart move.
it's like what and not even for critics and people who are doing reviews and that kind of thing
you know if you want to get the word out that that's that's that's minuscule it it's like yeah
we want the fans to talk about it but making the fans stay up to like 12 a.m.
And even if they're like, ah, watch it tomorrow as opposed to yeah push it back.
Push it back to Tuesday at 6 p.m.
And then you get everybody talking about it in the middle of dinner time and it's trending and I never
understood. I never understood the strategy of putting something out at 12 a.m.
And when you wanted to be part of the conversation, I never understood that.
Like, again, yes, being someone who covers these types of shows and is doing the reactions,
it is a pain in the ass as far as being able to, like, I normally go to bed because I got
two kids and I usually go to bed like 10 30, 11 o'clock. So pushing myself, because I wake up early.
I wake up at like 6 in the morning, 5.30, 6 in the morning. So when I wake, so I'm starting to get
tired at that point. I'm like, okay, I got to do it, got to cover it. And a lot of times you'll
see me, like the reviews that I do, I'm in my kitchen and I'm doing the, the out of the, well,
the immediate reaction to it. And then you watch my kind of immediate reaction to House of the Dragon.
You see a lot more energy. I'll tell you that. So, yeah.
Yeah, for me, and again, this is not why anybody should, for people who are reviewing these things,
but for the fans, you want to make sure that the excitement is there,
you're going to get two people, you're going to get those hardcore fans that are going to watch it at 12 a.m.
Or 3 a.m., rather, at East Coast, right?
They're going to watch it.
They're going to tweet out about it.
They're going to talk about it about what kind of energy do they have at that point?
And when they wake up in the morning, they're in the cycle of the tweets and posts and all that stuff.
By the time people are waking up, does it push past a little bit?
Do you get more coverage of people who are going nuts about it?
Again, from critics and from fans.
This is a great move.
This is a really smart move.
And I hope that Star Wars continues to do this.
And I hope Marvel takes a page out of this, too.
Get rid of this silly 12 a.m. thing.
It makes no sense.
I have not heard a good explanation to why they have done this in the past.
I feel like they're the only ones to do it.
because when HBO Max has a show or
or any of these shows,
they drop them at a certain time, they don't drop them at 12 a.m.
I don't get it.
I would like to know if you guys have an idea
of why they did that in general,
if you think it's a good move at all.
As far as the show goes, man, I was,
I really like the tone of it.
I really like the tone of it.
It's not goofy.
It feels like the one thing is,
yes, sometimes you notice the volume.
I don't think you're ever going to get past that with these shows now.
I think that when you look at something like Andor or the majority of House of the Dragon,
I know there's some stuff that was shot in the volume.
The real locations just play better.
There's no doubt about it.
But it also allows you to get things out, and the technology still looks really good,
and there's things that they do.
But I think that one of the main concerns I certainly had for this show
that Mike Kalanowski had on this show was,
will non-rebels fans be lost?
and I was happy to hear from Mike right away.
He was like, no, I was locked in.
Mike was locked in.
And Mike, you guys, if you watch Wednesday's show, Mike, Mike is a, Mike's going to tell you what he thinks.
Mike's not going to be, oh, you know, it's fine.
He was locked in.
He wants to know where it goes.
He was, he wasn't, and he thought he was convinced he was going to be lost,
and then it was going to be two inside baseball.
And that's why Mike's on the show is that Mike will also admit when he's like, no,
I was completely locked in.
And they give you good Easterer,
It's not like one of these things where if you are a Rebels fan, you're like, oh, they didn't even pay attention to the lure.
They absolutely pay attention to the war.
And they absolutely give the character's respect and obviously it's Faloni, right?
But the thing that stood out and the thing that I was talking about on Wednesday show with Mike, Kevin Kiner, the music in this show is the best music we've had in a Star Wars show so far.
because Kevin Kiner
knows the theme of Star Wars.
He knows, he takes John Williams
and what John Williams set up,
and he doesn't try to mimic John Williams,
he certainly pays homage to it
and plays towards certain themes,
but there are times that if he's like,
oh, that's very John Williamsy,
oh, and then he took it and made it his own,
but it still feels so right.
The opening scene, again, not spoiling anything,
don't worry,
scene the music that plays, there's one particular moment.
You're like, oh, it feels, that feels very, like, almost like episode one-ish.
But there's something new to it.
It's, it's brilliant.
His music is brilliant.
There's something that happens at one point in it, the music.
And I said, well, that seems very modern.
And then I was like, wait, let me, oh, I see what you did there.
I see what you did there.
I like that.
And I'm curious what people are going to say, but I think Kevin,
Kiner should be doing the music for every Star Wars series.
Every Star Wars movie.
I know he's not, there's only so much time the guy has, but this should be your composer
for Star Wars once John Williams says, I don't want to do it anymore.
If John Williams wants to do all the movies and he wants to do all the series, you let
John Williams do whatever he wants to do, obviously he's John Williams.
But if he decides, this is it, I'm hanging up the hat, Kevin Kiner should be the guy.
Kevin Kineer, I would have loved to see what Kevin Kiner would.
And nothing against the composer for Obi-Wan.
She's a great composer, and she did, what did she do?
She did something I really liked.
Was it, shoot, what was the, it was a Marvel series?
Loki.
Didn't she do Loki?
She did Loki.
I really liked Loki's music.
And I don't know if it was necessarily her score,
or it was the direction she got for the score.
But I didn't love the score in Obi-Wan.
I thought there could have been new themes combined with old themes,
and it wasn't.
It just didn't hit for me, but it really stands out in Asoka.
But speaking of Obi-Wan, this is from comic book movie.
Deborah Chow, who directed the Obi-I-Wan-Kin-Kin-Cenobe series,
season confirms that Ewan McGregor has been pushing for a second season.
Debra Chow has shared her thoughts on a possible second season
while also sharing her thoughts on the way Hayden Christensen has been embraced by the fans
since his Star Wars return.
Obi-Wan Kenobi was a hit with Star Wars fans.
with the show shedding new light on the Jedi Masters' first meeting with Princess Leia,
his previously unheard rematch with Darth Vader, and much more besides.
The series ended with another decade to go before the events of a new hope,
and we can't discount the possibility that Obi-Wan went on to other adventures during that time.
He and the Sith Lord wants to know as Anakin Skywalker may have crossed paths again.
I hope not.
Talking to the Hollywood reporter, Obi-Wan Kenobi director, Jebara Chow.
confirmed star
Ewan McGregor
has been pushing
for a second season
since the moment
the camera stopped
on the first season.
She says
Ewan and I
finished our very last
shot on a second unit
and I was literally
taking off my headphones
he was already pitching
me ideas for season two
the filmmaker recalls
there's another 10 years
of plenty of stories
and I don't think
it's off the board.
It is a never,
say never a situation
but we did conceive
this to be a limited series.
It's hard to imagine
Lucas film not
eventually moving forward
with a second batch
of episodes
and Chow went on
to share
her thought of the recent resurgence of both Star Wars prequels and Hayden Christensen.
She says, when we made the announcement that we were bringing back Hayden, that prequel generation
became very clear all of a sudden.
They loved the prequels and Hayden was their guy.
It was lovely.
Honestly, to work on something that was for a different generation of Star Wars fans.
A lot of the actors have been subject to a lot of scrutiny over their roles.
And having Hayden come out the other side and see the love for both him and his character,
it was one of the most gratifying things.
Honestly, I wouldn't have felt good if he didn't have a good experience.
on this. Kathleen Kennedy has been
resolute when it comes to Obi-Wan
and the Canobey season two not being in
the works while Bob Iger has suggested
the studio will cut back on making Star Wars content.
If that leads to a movie
will have no complaints.
Now that I agree with.
It's funny because I still
stand by. People keep
keep telling me after seeing that series.
Now don't you think it should have been a movie?
No, I think it should have better writing.
I think it should have better writing.
I think it should have had better pacing.
I think she should have a better music.
I think that people have,
people did cut it down to a two and a half hour movie,
but people also cut the episodes differently as well too.
And the characters, the writing,
and I say this again,
Riva should have been in a different show.
It has nothing to do with the actress.
She should have been in a different show.
There was no reason to take the focus of Obi-Wan and Anakin,
that whole story, that whole drama,
should have been the fact that this guy has been tortured
by the fact that he thought he killed his
Padawan and his friend
and he should have been tortured by this.
And they focus on that,
but it goes back and forth with this Inquisitor story
that no one cared about.
And especially at the very end of it,
when they're going to this epic duel between the two,
when it bounces back and forth between the Owen stuff
and then getting a, and,
And it got, it kind of muddied the waters with the lore with how Leah was involved and Luke and all.
And it just, the writing just wasn't good on the show.
And in my opinion, it was a popular show as far as ratings go.
But I think that it's, when you look after Andor came out, nobody talked about Obi-Wan.
Everybody was talking about Andor.
Wasn't Obi-Wan nominated for Best Series and people are talking about,
talking about it for actors and it was and or nobody expected that everybody thought it would be
obo. And she's not wrong though. Having Hayden and you and back together was fantastic. It was the
best part of the series. It's still, again, certain things writing wise, I hope that they would
improve and I hope that they would take notes of when Asoka does come out and the way that
Asoka is paced and the way that it plays and the music and all that stuff. I hope that they
retool it.
And they should take a note
out of what they did with Andor.
Now, I do agree that not everything should be Andor.
Not everything should be a real flushed out
drama with heavy dialogue and this.
But I think Obi-Wan could serve from that.
Now, I'm not telling you don't cut out the,
I'm not telling you too cut out the big action scenes.
That was great.
But there was some minutia.
And we always bring that Benny Hill scene.
from when Flea is chasing Leah around the woods.
I mean, that kind of stuff.
It's like you don't need that kind of stuff.
And I hope that if they do a second series with Obi-Wan,
that they either really work on the writing.
And I think, correct me from wrong,
but I think this is a lot of it was shot during the pandemic
and there was only so much that they could do
so they couldn't do, they were kind of handcuffed.
behind the volume.
So maybe they had a chance to change things up.
Hayden, I don't think, well,
I was going to say Hayden shouldn't be in Obi-W-1 season two.
If you're going to put Vader in it, season two,
they shouldn't meet again.
I was all for it.
You guys know I was all for it because I think,
and that was the other thing that drove me crazy
is that the whole reason and basis
behind the conversation of,
um,
that Luke has with,
with Vader and Jedi
as Obi-Wan once thought as you did.
And I was like, well, that's your, that's your Obi-Wan series right there.
He's got to think that he can bring him back.
And he doesn't really do it.
He kind of gives up, he doesn't,
there's not like this thing where I thought it was going to be him
actively trying to get Anakin to come back.
And he does have that realization at the end.
He's like, oh, then, you know, he's dad or whatever he says to him.
But he doesn't, it wasn't, it wasn't the,
driving force of like I really got to convince him and have him come back and try to bring
because then you're like oh yeah that's what they're talking about that's when obi one once
thought as he did but now he's like more machine than man nonetheless all that stuff happened
already he thinks he's a machine that's it let him go off on his own adventures if you want to see
vader doing a side mission that's still why i still think that i would love to see i brought this up a
couple different times and i would love to see it come to fruition as this anthology series in live
action that I think that they could get away with so much stuff to do where they wouldn't have
to commit to full series or even a movie, right? And it's like basically an anthology series
where you would have just called the Star Wars. And you can cover it on any different period
of Star Wars. So if you wanted to do a three-episode arc of Obi-Wan with Quigon and
there, and as a force ghost, and he's teaching them things and telling them get more in peace. And
And now that the stuff with Vader is in the past and he's got to protect the child.
There's a couple things that happen on Tatooine and do a three-episode arc.
You get you and back.
You get whoever back.
And you do three episodes, great.
And then the next episode, episode, episode four, it's essentially kind of like what Visions does, right?
But it's like episode four is the old republic.
And you have two episodes in the old republic.
And you introduce some characters there.
And who knows that if you spark enough interest out of some of these episodes,
there could be a throwaway where you're like,
I didn't really like that whole thing they did with the Ewok.
And I'm done with it.
But then the old Republic stuff, that was interesting.
Who was that character?
I'd like to see more with that character.
And then they spin off a series.
There's so much you can do with an anthology series that I'm trying to put that into the universe.
And hopefully that that happens.
But who knows?
But I wouldn't mind seeing something, especially a movie with Ewan, for sure, if they were going to do something.
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to some more news here. Blue Beetle. So it made $3.3 million on Thursday previews, and that's just
below Shazam 2. So it's now in theaters and a DC Comics movie is off to a decent, if not,
spectacular start at the box office, taking a 3.3 from Thursday night preview screenings. This is from
Mark Cassidy. Blue Beetle arrives in theaters this weekend and the movie kicked off its box
office run by taking in a so-so $3.3 million from Thursday preview screenings in North America.
This puts Jaime Reyes' first big screen outing on track for an estimated 25 to 30 opening.
It won't be considered an impressive debut for a superhero movie, but it might not be disastrous,
which had a modest budget. That's the key.
Compared to the Flash, this has $120 million budget.
Shazam Fury the Gods had a budget of 90 to 100.
Okay.
And the recent sequel top Beatles preview totals,
hopefully not an indicator of what we can expect.
Yeah, but that was a sequel, though.
Blue Beetle should take number one spot from Barbie,
which is holding strong after five weeks,
but it remains to see how it fares over the next few weeks.
Positive reviews should help.
It's certified with 80%, with a 95% audience score,
and good word-to-mouth could propel the DC Comics film past expectations.
Okay, so there's a lot here.
this was this was already kind of predicted they were predicting this movie to make around 25 or 30
for opening week and I do think that the positive reviews are going to help I think that the
positive reviews are going to do after the initial weekend because there's not a lot coming out
there's grand terrismo there's equalizer but in this type of realm and those types of
big blockbuster kind of movies it's it kind of stands alone and it's a good family movie too
So I hope that that's the word that gets spread,
because it is a movie that should be seen in theaters, for sure.
Yeah, the Shazam thing, even though it's a modest budget,
the thing that I say is that it's a sequel, though,
of a movie that did fairly decent,
that it should have done better, and it did significantly worse.
So Blue Beetle, the fact that it is 120,
I think that is a major, major thing that studios should be paying attention to,
because had this movie cost $210 million or anything like The Flash or Indiana Jones or anything like that,
then we'd be in serious trouble here.
You're not going to make that money back and you're going to lose money.
They have a shot to make money here.
They have a shot to at least break even.
They have a shot because it was only 120.
And I know marketing and I get that.
But that plays into all of it.
And I think that by trimming that stuff down, you're going to see more success.
And it's why these movies that they take these shots with that cost 20, 30, 40 million dollars.
And they put a good story into it.
And they put, you know, decent actors into it.
And they make a gamble on a 40 million or 60 million as opposed to a 300 million.
That's greedy.
It's greedy.
And it's like, well, we've got to hit a billion.
And then we're going to hand over a fist.
It's like, it's not working like that anymore.
And I think Blue Beetle could prove that because that's the other thing.
if Black Adam would have cost
80 million to 100, it would have made a lot of money.
And it costs too much.
How much does that budget?
Let me see.
I always check this.
I'm going to go, Black Adam budget.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
It's like in the range of $190, 260 million.
It's outrageous.
Shouldn't have cost that much.
You would have brought that back to like $100 million or $80 million bucks.
Give the rock back-end stuff and give the actress back-end stuff instead.
then that movie would have,
that movie would have made money.
That movie would have made money.
That movie didn't need to cost that much.
But anyway, Blue Beetle,
I'm very curious how it's going to play out
over the next couple of weeks.
I don't, because I think this could be an elemental type thing,
because elemental had time to breathe.
Everybody thought elemental was a bomb.
And maybe, maybe it broke even now,
or maybe it just made money.
I don't know, but it was considered to be a bomb, and it started to fight its way back.
Yeah, so, I mean, unlike the Flash, which is now considered one of the biggest bombs in superhero history, The Flash, two things about this movie.
One, this is again, comicbook movie.com.
Man, they really, Josh Wilden, really gives it to the movie.
It says, The Flash, Max Reveal Streaming Premiere Day for the greatest superhero movie ever made.
they surely shot themselves in the foot by doing that.
Max has finally announced when the Flash will premiere on the streaming service.
Great news for those who you're excited to watch.
The greatest superhero movie ever made from the comfort of your home.
Real nice.
Earlier today, we brought you the news that the Flash concluded its box office run
and it had a dismal 268 million worldwide.
Yeah, that's really bad.
Considering the movie probably cost just about that to make or close.
to it, not including marketing.
So that's a bust.
As a result, it now ranks among the biggest superhero movie office.
As a result, it now ranks among the biggest superhero movie box office flops ever
released.
We know many of you decided to skip the divisive DCU movie in theaters, but Warner Brothers
Discovery has announced today that the Scarlet Speedster's first big screen solo
outing will make its streaming debut on Max next Friday, August 25th.
there's always a chance the Flash will find a new audience at home
and we'll be lying to say that there weren't at least some fans
who had a fun tie with Barry Allen, Batman, Superman.
I'm one of them. I still liked the movie.
It's my favorite comment, by the way.
Weren't you, the guy that says you liked the Flash?
Yeah, I did. I didn't tell you, you have to like it.
I liked it. I like the Flash.
There's some stuff that's not great about it, but I liked it.
I saw it twice. Doug it.
I really liked the movie.
Didn't love the ending, but I liked the movie.
But I think that there are going to be some people who dig it, but there's a lot of people who don't.
I'm surprised at how many people don't like this movie.
But nonetheless, it ate it.
It ate it bad.
While Ezra Miller's DCU future is unclear, Michael Keaton's time as the Dark Night has ended, despite there was once major plans for him to come back.
As for Sasha Kaye's Supergirl, we have no idea whether she'll star in DCU Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow.
Prior to the Flash's release, the studio proudly touted glowing reactions from celebrities like Tom Cruise,
Jaden Smith, Stephen King.
Even new DCU studios, James Gunn, got in on the action describing it which has 64% as one of the greatest superhero movies ever made.
Early screenings allowed fans and critics to share their thoughts, but as time passed, it became clear.
People weren't thrilled with what they were seeing.
Bad VFX? That I agree with.
Weirdly released cameos, that I agree with.
And a messy story sealed the full.
Flash as fate. I didn't mind the story and decimated positive word of mouth.
So I'm very curious with people who, like, this is a good question. If you guys haven't seen
the Flash, because there's a ton of people who didn't, obviously, are you going to watch
it on Max? Are you going to check it out when it comes out to see what you thought or you just,
I don't really care. It doesn't connect to anything. I'm done with it until Superman. I'm not
going to watch any of this stuff until Superman, because I see a lot of people doing that. And I think
that's what a lot of the hype was behind it too from a lot of these people like tom say something
about this movie we got to get people into this theater um plus the stuff that was going on with
Ezra miller and all that and more just wasn't yeah it's i i thought that movie would do a lot better
than it did i mean that movie did really poorly and this the cg i is awful the vfx are i mean there's parts
of it sometimes it's it's it's cartoonishly bad not all i shouldn't say that's not not all but
there's sometimes you're just like it's like it's like
Scorpion King level, like, whoof, what are you doing?
So, and that's tough to get an audience behind, right?
And like, that opening scene, I watched, late to the party.
They did a reaction to it watching it for the first time.
And I was watching them, because when I saw that scene,
there's an opening scene that happens that I'm not going to ruin for people
if you haven't seen it.
There's an opening scene that in the theater, I was like,
oh, that plays, I mean, the CGI in the scene is bad,
and that's where I really looked at it.
But that plays kind of fun in the theater.
and I watched them watching it
and they were not reacting in a way
clearly that the director
that Moushietti had intended, right?
Like the stuff, like even there were sometimes
that they were like cringing.
And when I saw it in the theater,
I was like, oh, I had fun watching this particular scene
and people were laughing at it and everything too,
but watching them, I felt the vibe
and the energy of the way that they were watching it,
not only like, oh, they're not really,
they don't see this the same way as I do.
I felt it when they were watching.
I was like, oh, I can understand why they're reacting this way
because it's not playing the same way that it did
when I saw it twice in the theater.
But watching it with them,
I was like, oh, I can see where some people are going to really go.
So, and as far as the other actors in it,
I thought Sasha was pretty damn good in the role.
I thought she needed more to do.
But I think it goes back to the same thing.
And even though it's sad,
because she's only got a chance to play the character once.
Now, I know what the argument's going to be here.
What I'm about to say, even before I say it.
But I think with Gal, Jason Momoa, Henry Cavill, anybody involved in any of connected to the DCEU,
you've got to scrap it.
You can't make it confusing to the audience.
They're like, oh, wait, that's Supergirl in that movie.
and now she's in it so is she's connected to that she's not what i don't who where that's going to
happen and people are going to say well oh they already said that show lomened dwean is coming back
for blue beetle so why not just do the same thing he's going to be that that movie isn't
necessarily connected to it but he is so isn't that confusing no because i've seen the movie
um the flash is very much connected to manna steel to the deced to the deced
CEU in general, it connects to all of that stuff.
Blue Beetle stands on its own.
They mentioned characters in the DC, but that could have been from anything.
And if they did, it went over my head and I didn't even hear it.
And it's not enough to where you would be confusing to anyone.
So you can use him and bring him back and it won't be confusing.
Now, would it be as confusing to bring back Sasha as a supergirl as it would bringing Wonder Woman?
No.
You could get away with it.
You could.
You could get away with it.
I just think that those questions in general, I think it's, I just, I think she should do more with Warner Brothers.
I'd like to see her be around more.
I'd like to see her do other roles also because I think she's really good.
And I wish she'd give her more to do.
but I think that
Supergirl you got to
I think you gotta move on
but like I said
if they announced her coming back as Supergirl
to give her another shot
that's not as confusing
and I wouldn't be like why are they doing that
if you're going to get rid of that when the gal
when I said we were going to bring gal back
or the rumors where the gal was going to come back
I'm like that makes no sense
like what are they going to do is going to be elseworlds like what is it
you wouldn't have to do it else worlds
and you could connect it because
the other side of that is because of the multiverse side
and she's connected in a different way
that you could do it. You really could. You could do it.
But I just, maybe it won't be as confusing
because nobody saw the movie really. I don't know.
Maybe if it gathers a life. How do you guys feel about it?
I'm so curious in general about all your thoughts on Flash
about anything we just covered here.
Okay, moving on. Percy Jackson.
Percy Jackson gets a trailer.
Now, this one's got, is, I'm a little bit more biased to this one now than I probably ever would have been.
But this series was supposed to come out in, like, people didn't know, February, March, April.
No, there was no announcement.
So randomly there was a teaser trailer and then the announcement date that's coming out like December 10th or something.
So it's coming out this year.
Now, why do I have a bias to it?
because, as I mentioned, my daughter is now almost 12 years old.
She read all the Percy Jackson novel.
She loves Percy Jackson.
We sent her to the half-blood camp for the last two years.
She's a total Percy Jackson geek.
I love it so much.
She does the sword fighting.
She does all this stuff.
She loves it.
I know more about Percy Jackson.
I never thought I would.
And I'm probably definitely not going to get the name of the writer, right?
Rick Rodarian, probably got that wrong.
But nonetheless, he wasn't a massive fan.
of the movies. And they took a lot of liberties and the stuff that had happened in those movies.
And the fan base is not a fan of those movies because of the stuff that my daughter loves to bring
this point up. Percy Jackson fans will know. I didn't know. Some of the, um, was it, not blue milk,
but it's blue something. Blue something. He drinks or something like that, right? I don't know what it is,
but it's something blue. And they asked Logan Lerman about it. Logan Lerman didn't even know what the
hell they were talking about. So it didn't really go over the different, all the little, you know,
things that are important to the Percy Jackson audience. But Rick is involved in this series,
is very, very hands-on, wrote a lot of this stuff. I think he wrote a lot of the episodes.
So he's involved very much into the series. So the trailer, it was too short to really have an
opinion on it. It looks good. It doesn't look CW-ish, which I was always worried about,
only because if you watched, like, Willow. Willow turned out to be very C-W-ish. And I, I, I,
don't think it's going to lean into that.
It looks pretty high budget.
And they're putting a lot of stock into it because if they get this fan base on board,
it's going to take off.
But I dug what I saw thus far, but it was so little of a little teaser.
But the surprise that it's coming out at the end of the year,
maybe they just need something because they have enough that they're, you know,
they'd shot enough, they'd put anything together.
Like, look, we need something.
We need some material here with the strikes and all that.
and Percy's ready to go.
Let's throw it out there.
Let's get it going.
Now, you hope that the strike is over by then,
so the actors can promote it a little bit more
and those types of things.
But yeah, Percy Jackson, what do you guys think?
Do you want to see it?
Do you not care?
Go ahead and let me know.
Very curious.
Okay.
So, Zach Snyder officially announces his first teaser for Rebel Moon.
Zach Snyder fans have been waiting
for a first look of the footage
from his new Netflix science fiction movie,
Rebel Moon,
and the director has now officially announced the teaser trailer debut.
We've seen a few behind-the-scenes clips in a feature at here,
but the fans have been anxiously awaiting a first proper look
at some footage from Rebel Moon,
and the Justice League director has announced when the teaser is going to debut.
He says he's putting finishing touches to the trailer,
but it's ready to come out at GamesCon on Tuesday, August 22nd.
That's this Tuesday.
So he tweeted it out and said it's coming out.
So we don't know for certain when it'll be released on launch.
but it's pretty safe bet that it'll be at the same time.
Okay.
So I'm actually really excited for this movie
because it spawned from a Star Wars idea
and it's like a rated R Star Wars
and I think it's going to have like a dune feel
and all these different things of what he wanted to do
and he pitched it to Star Wars and it was too out there
and I like the fact that he kind of created
his own original IP off of it.
That to me is very exciting
and I think that it allows him to get away from
again, the handcuffy thing of being locked into a DC, a Marvel, or whatever it might be,
and you can create a whole new fan base and take your existing fan base and put it there
because I'm a science fiction guy in general.
So there's going to be no expectations except I want to see a good move.
I want to see, I'm going to watch it on my big screen.
I'm going to watch it with sound because you know it's going to be huge.
I do wish that you could see this one.
I mean, I guess it's, we'll see.
Maybe they do a release to it in the theater also.
So if they give options, they probably will want to see that in the theater.
But I'm excited for this one.
And I think it's going to do very well for Netflix.
I think it's going to do very well for Netflix.
I hope it's really good.
I hope it's good.
And I'm excited for it.
So I'm excited to see what the trailer is going to look like because I think that's going to bring a lot of,
it's going to answer a lot of questions.
And that comes out on Tuesday.
So I'll be reacting to that one for sure.
I'm curious, what do you guys think about that, though?
Are you excited for Rebel Moon?
Do you want to see it first?
Are you on board?
No matter what, do you agree with me that the fact that he's created this kind of original
IP off this pitch, what say you.
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