The Kristian Harloff Show - Ahsoka Season 2 not coming out until 2026. Is there enough time for Filoni's plan?

Episode Date: September 2, 2024

Lots went down at Dragon Con. There wre some stars from The Acolyte still hoping season 2 was being released. One of the bigger stories was that the news was announced that Ahsoka starts filming next ...year for season 2 which puts it in the 2026 area. Is this enough time for Filoni to release this and line it up to his movie for 2026 or is it a guarantee that Filoni's movie is now 2027 or later? George Clooney says the reports of his and Brad Pitt's salary is false. The new Jurassic World film with Scarlett Johansen has some story details? Joker 2 is on par for a large opening/ Beetlejuice 2 reviews are in. This and more with Kristian and Rocha on this live episode of The Kristian Harloff Show! #starwars #ahsoka #rumors #movies #cast #news #movienews #jurassicpark OUR SPONSORS: AG1: Try AG1 and get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase at http://www.drinkAG1.com/BIGTHING TUSHY: Stay shower-fresh all summer long and join the 2 million butts who already switched to TUSHY! For a limited time, our listeners get 10% off their first bidet order when you use code BIGTHING at checkout. https://hellotushy.com/BIGTHING HIMS: ● Start your free online visit today at http://www.Hims.com/BIGTHING MANDO: Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code [BIGTHING} at http://www.shopmando.com #mandopod  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Asoka, Season 2, it ain't happening until 2026. What the hell is that mean? Well, we'll get into it, that and more. On this episode of the Christian Harlov channel, that's right, Christian Harlov Show, let's do it. It's me, it's John Roka. We're live, and here we go. Welcome back, everybody, to the Christian Harlov show.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Christian Harlov, it's me. And we are live, ladies and gentlemen, and joining me, as always is John Roker, John, don't even say anything yet. Don't even say a word because I have been working on this thing today with Luke trying to get this thing to work. Now we're going to see, we're going to ask the audience. John, please say something so the audience can tell you if you can hear you or not. Luke, I am your father.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Okay, so we got no sound on the intro, which is great. Yes. That's great news. Now, do we get, so someone did hear this song? Okay, good. So people did hear it? So maybe no, they didn't hear the intro song? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Or maybe, I'm just wondering. Okay, so if they can hear you. Now, the question is, can they hear the music? Because there was somebody who said they couldn't hear the music, but I wonder if we played the thing. And there we got that. So we're back and look at this. So this is exactly what I'm going to say.
Starting point is 00:01:28 They didn't hear the song on it. So I don't know why the song didn't play on that one, but we'll have to, well, that's something we'll have to remedy. But so far, they saw the song, which is good. And we're going live and check this out. So this is something that we're going to do. There's that, which I'm very excited about.
Starting point is 00:01:45 So we've got that. And then look at this. And we even have one for you, my friend. So we're getting started. It's something new here on the channel. So thank you guys for joining us on the channel here today. I didn't make the opening video, but I made the graphic. So I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I appreciate it. Well, it's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of stuff happening. There's a lot of stuff happening. So for people who are wondering, you know, what we're doing here is that we're starting. Like, we're not going live every day yet. John and I have been going live every Monday for quite a while now. We'll continue to do that.
Starting point is 00:02:16 It's our 100th show. No, I'm sure. Yeah, I know it may be. And so then we're going to start doing Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday are going to start going live also. But this one's going to, you, this is kind of like the guinea pig for the first one to see what the hell we're, what's going on. So we have and we have so much to talk about. And as I mentioned up top there, John, there was the story about a story about a. Soka about season two that we'll discuss.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And then for everybody also who's out there right now, and happy holidays to everybody. And by the way, if you want to put in a question, we're going to do the same thing we always do. We'll bring up the questions and we'll get to it. So there's so much, so many stories are breaking as we're even getting on the air here today. But this is the one I wanted to discuss first. And that, of course, is Asoka.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Season two gets a disappointing update. As Mani Ginto shares hopes. for the Acolyte's future. And this is from comic book movie. Asoka star Natasha Liu Bordizo has shared a disappointing update on when season two begins shooting as the accolades Mani Jacinto reveals his hopes to see the canceled Star Wars series continue. They say while some were quick to rejoice at the news, many Star Wars fans were left reeling by Disney's decision to cancel the accolade after a second season.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Despite a social media outcry and various online petitions, the odds of the series are turning for a second season, are incredibly low. For those who enjoyed it, that's a shame, because the finale left so many unanswered questions and dangling plot threads that might never be addressed. So, Mani Jacinto played The Stranger, a formidable Sith warrior who took Mandel of Stenberg's May under his wing,
Starting point is 00:03:51 yada, yada, yada, so they had him up on stage, they brought him up and they said, I don't know, can you hear this when I play this, John? Where is it? Oh, that's just Mani. I don't know where the video went, but, oh, here it is. A golden one. Can you hear that when that plays?
Starting point is 00:04:08 No, I cannot. You can't hear you? Nope. Well, anyway, he was up, he was up on stage, and he basically said that they were asking him, what he would want back, and he said, season two of that going, right? And people, I think they made it seem like there's a whole bunch of people screaming,
Starting point is 00:04:24 there's some people literally going like this. But either way, good for him, that he wants it back. He should. He worked hard on the series. But then the other thing was that they talked about Asoka. And now, so Asoka, they said, go to the plans for season two. The series left on a cliffhanger.
Starting point is 00:04:42 According to Liz, she says that they expect to start shooting season two next summer. This means we won't see this back until our screens until 2026 of the earliest, resulting in a three-year gap between the seasons. Am I crazy or is this crazy? Well, I mean, but I agree said when he came back that they were going to slow things down, they were going to take their time. I mean, we only had what, just a few weeks ago that it was announced there was going to be a season too. People are still reeling
Starting point is 00:05:10 from the death of Ray Stevenson. So I think there's time and they want to time it with Mando and Grogu. So I think this fits their time schedule. Yeah, I'm surprised in terms of as a Star Wars fan that we've got to wait three years, but I'm not really surprised when you think of the timing.
Starting point is 00:05:26 They want it to kind of connect to the Mando and Grogoo, which is of course what they did with Rise of Skywalker, right? With that Jedi being able to heal people magically, that kind of thing. And so you see that all being a part of it. So I'm not surprised necessarily. And, and Manney's thing, I'm also not, hey, look, you want to, you want to get people to love you in the Star Wars fandom. You talk about
Starting point is 00:05:48 bringing back a series that some of them want to come back. And I think Mani's heart's in the right place for sure, but they're bringing that show back. No, well, yeah, as far as that goes, there's no world that show's coming back. We know this. It's, they made the decision they're going to stand by it. That's fine. I'm going to, I'm going to disagree with you, man. I think it's a, it's an issue that they're waiting this long. because this isn't a movie. This is a TV show. Most TV shows come back within a year because you want to keep people interested.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And the story, and by there's so much stuff happening within three years, that it's like people's interest already starting to lose in Star Wars, right? So in television, I don't disagree that you're like, well, they want to hold back a little bit. But it also, to me, shows they have no idea what the ultimate plan is. Because here's the thing. This also, I think to me, you can go to Vegas and bet that the 2026 movie is definitely not Faloni, is the December one. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Definitely can't be because it's got to all lead into it. So I guess the argument can be made, well, look, this is what they're going to do. They're going to build, they're going to have skeleton crew, see how that does. Yeah. And then Asoka Season 2 will eventually lead into, or Mandalorian and Grogu will have some big events and things that happen. That will eventually lead into some of the events of Asoka, which will eventually lead. into the events of Faloni. It gives you enough time, which I don't disagree with,
Starting point is 00:07:12 but it just goes to that same old thing. Stop announcing things. Yeah. Because, well, we're announcing a movie, and it's Faloni's movie, and he's going to have this big thing. It's going to be like this big Avengers thing that ends it all. When? We don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:28 But when's Assook season two? At the time of this announcement, it hasn't even been Greenland. Oh, but is that going to happen? We think so. It is. Okay, it is. When? We're not sure.
Starting point is 00:07:37 He just finished. When is that going to happen? In a couple of years. How long? About three years after the first season. Will anyone care? We hope so. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:45 What else between that? No clue. Who's directing a movie? We're going to probably sign up 87 directors in between. How many of them are going to direct? None of them. Oh, okay. So what do we do?
Starting point is 00:07:55 We don't know. It's literally that chaotic. Let's get a writer's room together in February for a season two of the Acolyte. All right. When's that's that happening? Well, let's wait until season once over. Let's start talking to directors. All right, you guys interested, you're available?
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah, I think it could be interested in available. Hey, guess what? We canceled it. Oh, right. Right. And that's what I mean. So when you hear this, again, you're just like, okay, three years from now, and TV is different.
Starting point is 00:08:20 It seems like when they have it lined in it. And because it's a Villoni show, it'll definitely happen. But here's the other problem is that if you are now putting this show out in 2026, because he's going to have all this time to put this together. When's he going to start working on the movie? Yeah. It's a great question. It's a great question. And it feels like we said, they announced it weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Have they started working on the scripts already? Have they started putting this all together? There seems like there's going to be some kind of upheaval over there. And they're going to take a year off. So maybe this whole year next year is like them putting this all together, shooting the show, shooting the movie. Maybe it's around the same time. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:02 But like it's a lot. It's a lot to ask of Faloni. I 100% agree with you. And we're already a lot of us in the Star Wars side of things going like, is Dave the answer? Right. And so now we're going to be investing in two separate projects. And what if both of those come out and they're middling or not good or mixed? Then, you know, the Faloni is done in terms of the goodwill, I feel like overall with the audience and may want to head on and move them back to animation.
Starting point is 00:09:31 So it's a hell of a chance they're taking. I guess he's earned it. I would say that. but like if he doesn't get both of these things right brother it's it's a it's a bad sign for phlony and for star wars overall dude i mean we've we've discussed it at length here or we think that they're in that spot right now that they just everything they hit has to be incredible in order to in order to get everybody back on board you know and it's i know fabro is mando and gringo i know that but pheloni's
Starting point is 00:09:57 going to be involved so yeah yeah yeah for sure but it's he's involved in it no matter what in the same way the russo brothers were involved with anything leading up to end game Exactly. Because they're leading up to this big, if you believe it's the Thrawn, you know, the heir to the empire and all that, if you believe that. So who knows? It's like, it's just 2026 to me, I think 2025 should have been it. I always think that I knew that it was going to be the 2026 area. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know, man. I don't know. I just, it's very curious how this is all going to play out. but I'm yeah yeah well and this is why I pushed back on Jeff on the hot mic last week like Jeff was like well from my Star Wars contact and Jeff has a very strong Star Wars contact
Starting point is 00:10:41 so I'm not I'm not bashing that contact at all but Jeff was like oh they've got a lot of projects in development they got a lot of stuff they're working on and I initially pushed back on it because I'm like okay cool they can say all of that but how much of that do you have faith in at this point you know and so I think that's well I think there's two different things I just to make it seem like oh yeah I don't know hold on guys we got stuff coming you know well i think those are two different things though what you're saying because dude is development i mean as working in development there's always things in development there's always things in development that you have to in order to have a production dude there are
Starting point is 00:11:16 there are production companies when i was working on warner brothers you know that like well i can just tell you joel silver's company alone there was always active development of everything and most things didn't see light a day and then they were and that and that was a company because of dark castle at the time putting out three to four movies a year which is just crazy in general most production companies will try to get at least one movie out a year, one or every year or two, two years try to get one out. Yeah, but active development though, John, but active development, all of those companies had various projects open, even if they got one of the ground. So they can be in development. The question is exactly what you're saying, which I agree with you. How much do you have
Starting point is 00:11:51 faith in that any of it's going to get off the ground? That's the, that's the thing. That's why I wonder why the source told him that, because I feel like it's a little bit of them doing some brand saving, because look, the source has a connection, maybe someone, you know, who's very close connected to the people there. So that source maybe, you know, in a way, might have just fed that to Jeff. So Jeff could put that in his newsletter and that people are like, oh, well, they've got other projects coming. Oh, cool. What are they developing? What are they working on?
Starting point is 00:12:18 So it kind of keeps the brand a little bit excited. Keep the fans excited about the brand a little bit. But, you know, like I said, fine, you're working on stuff. But how much faith do you have that it's actually going to happen or it's going to be any good at this point? And why would you put things in development with a team of people who have consistently shown you that they can't knock it out of the batting percentage is not that strong? Right. So it just concerns me to even start to do any of that when you don't have a good team behind you. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I can put all the tactics I want on the pitch or on a on a ball field or whatever. But if the players aren't really vibed, what's the point? Oh, we're saying the same thing because it's like, it was in the same thing. To me, it is like, yeah, okay. So maybe the source said, look, this is what they're actively, this is what they're working on. They want to do an old Republic movie. They had this. They had a meeting with so-and-so about doing a Mace Windu thing.
Starting point is 00:13:03 They had this and this. This is all the stuff. And that's all true, all in development. The question is, like you said, how much of it will actually get put into play and what will and how fast before it's canceled, you know? Right. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:15 But, and then to jump back to the act like thing, I hope, man, he does a lot of great things. He was the best part of the damn show. So they should, I hope he gets a lot of work. And I hope that, you know, they can, in the same way that they work certain Marvel actors who have come back. I hope they can work them back into Star Wars if you really wants to be in just like a different role or something, you know? I mean, you could make that character do his own thing.
Starting point is 00:13:36 A part of something down the road. Yeah. I don't know how or don't know where, but there is still a possibility with that character. Because I think just like Ewan McGregor, look, I know people now revisit the prequels. They love the prequals. But what I grew up with, the prequals, they were not beloved. And Ewan was the one that everybody said he was great in the prequels. No one else really was, right?
Starting point is 00:13:56 And so he was able to survive all of that. that's changed now people we appreciate hayden and uh and um uh had made that's fine you know but like natalie portman or other but like the situation here is manny is manny came out the star to that thing kind of like uh ryan gosling out of barbie right people were talking about ryan more they were talking about margot rabbi so okay great do something that character or have something with that character maybe down the road they could do something with that character and maybe have pop-ins from people from the accolade i don't know but i don't think you should lose manny jacinto i'm with you either do something with that character down the road or give him something new in Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And if I was Marvel, I'd be looking at that kid immediately, immediately. Yeah, me too. Look, I think he's great. I think you guys thought he was great regardless of what you thought the show was. But put your comments in there. Tell us what you think. Do you think that this is something that is a problem or no? Because they're leading up to Filoni's movie and everything else, too.
Starting point is 00:14:48 They're actually getting things. This is what they should be doing. They should be taking their time. Put your comments in there. Tell us exactly what you think. All right. Now, as we are going to get to another topic, you mentioned your co-host on the hot mic, Jeff Snyder, while he broke a pretty big one right before we went on the air.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And that's that from comic book movie here, this is Josh Brolin is rumored to have been offered to the Hal Jordan role in the lanterns series. Now, a new rumor doing the rounds right now is claiming that Josh Brolin has been offered the role of Hal Jordan in the upcoming DCU lantern series. Yeah. So Mark Cassidy writes, we had heard a. Noteworthy name is being sought out to play veteran Green Lantern, Hal Jordan, the upcoming DCU Lantern series, and there's a new rumor claiming that the studio has set sights on a former MCU actor for the role. This is according to Nexus Point News, who have broken some pretty big DC-related scoops
Starting point is 00:15:41 over the first few weeks. Josh Brolin has been offered the part through the site notes he hasn't actually entered talks and might well decline. Brolin is no stranger to the comic book movie superhero genre playing Thanos in the Infinity Saga and Cable and Deadpool 2. He's also technically played a DC character in the Jonah Hanks movie. Casting is also underway for a black actor between 27 to 35. The late John Stewart, the younger Lantern Jordan takes under his wing.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Academy Award winning Lost and Watchman creator. Lindeloff is working on the pilot script along with Ozark showrunner, Chris Mundy, and acclaimed comic book writer Tom King, yada, yada, yada, production on lanterns is currently set to commence in Q1 of 2025. Nathan Phyllian, Scott Gardner, who will make his debut. Hugh and Gunn Superman reboot is expecting to have a supporting role in the series. Earlier Green Lantern TV series was in the works before Gunn and Safron took over as co-head of DC Studios, and that version was created by Berlanti and would have starred Finn Whitrock as Guy Gardner.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Hal Jordan was previously played by Ryan Reynolds in the infamous 2011 Green Lantern movie. So this one is the story of a couple of Green Lantern, St. John Stewart and Hal Jordan. We have a few other lanterns prepped in there, but this is really a terrestrial-based TV show, which is almost like True Detective with a couple of Green Lantern. who are space cops watching over precinct earth in it they discover a terrifying mystery that ties into our largest story of the DCU so they have an update Jeff Snyder's also reporting that brolin has been offered the role so Snyder says as hinted in my newsletter brolin has been offered the role of Hal Jordan in HBO's big budget sci-fi lannards plus which one of
Starting point is 00:17:15 demons Lindos watchman collaboration is being eyed to direct the pilot okay so you you don't think that brolin's gonna well a he's Do you think he's going to take it or do you think he's not even going to be offered, Jordan? Well, no, I think he's probably even offered it. I mean, I trust Jeff and I trust Nexus Point News. They've broken some good stuff over the last few months. But like, I don't know that he's the right fit for Hal Jordan. That's my issue.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I don't see him as Hal Jordan. Too gruff? He's like a gruff Bruce Wayne. He's like a Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne. That's the kind of Josh Brolin role that fits him with his gruffness and his tough love approach. Hal Jordan is a cocky pilot. Ryan was completely miscast with all his little jokes that didn't work. You've got to find someone who's got Nathan, everyone wanted Nathan to do.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And I think he voiced it over in the animated series. But like, he's kind of around the age of Brolin. So you could have argued that why didn't you just give it to Phillyen? But clearly they want a big name. Josh Brolin is a big name. He's been in a bunch of big franchises recently. Dune is one of our favorites, Christian. And so he was a part of that.
Starting point is 00:18:22 But like, I understand why you go this direction. But clearly, because I heard from my source that they weren't going above 55 years old. But clearly that changed. And now they've gone with Josh. They want to do a lethal weapon thing, as Jeff pointed out. So they're looking at a younger African-American actor, a black actor. And so where are they going to go with that? Because a lot of people were thinking the kid from F1 was going to be a part of a beast 30.
Starting point is 00:18:46 So in Kelvin Harrison, Jr. is 30. So where are they looking for the young black actor to step in? But clearly they want someone who's got some kind of weight and power and looks like. like he could be like a guardian of the universe, for lack of a better term. And so I think I understand the offer. I just don't think the energy of Josh Bolin fits, how Jordan, in my opinion. I think it's a fair take. And I think that the only thing that I will say is that Josh Brolin is funnier than people give him credit for.
Starting point is 00:19:15 He's got more personality than people give him credit for like where I shouldn't say that. But I mean, more the gruff thing is a fair, you know, assessment of him because of the role. that he's played and a lot of the roles that he's played but when you look at him in interviews and stuff too he's a really funny witty dude oh totally and he's a really good actor so if he could kind of change it up and and say look this is what we're looking for we don't want to do that same kind of Sicario this this that we don't want to do that stuff we want to do a little bit more we want you to be a little bit more relatable more likable in that one in one of those things and maybe they can get them to do it I don't know I don't know maybe they can but
Starting point is 00:19:53 maybe maybe i don't know but i i think that they're right i think he's going to pass on it anyway i think so yeah he's going to pass i think he's going to pass i think he's going to pass what what tv is he done outer range was the most recent two things that he's done and i remember that's after season two yeah i don't i'm look at when you're when you're work able to work yeah in the way that this guy is where he's got he he he's built such a career for himself where he's wanted and he can if he wanted to pick up he can book a movie tomorrow you know if he was like hey i want to be in a movie tomorrow and i want to be in this movie all right well get you on the phone with with disney tomorrow we'll put you in this big movie but he's that type actor right
Starting point is 00:20:29 he's got that kind of career the bigger actors like this um don't love work in tv it's a lot of it's a lot of it's a lot of you know what i mean it's a grind yeah yeah but you wonder how much yeah what's going to be the time commitment that's a great point yeah what's going to be the time coming for him at his age does he want to do it there's going to be a lot of special special effects, a lot of retakes, a lot of shots and setting up shots and figuring out shots. How much of that does he want to be involved in? And how was his, I mean, he was already Thanos. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:04 He was already cable. So this would be what, his fourth, if you include Jonah Hex, fourth superhero venture here. And I'm not counting films. I mean, they're playing the characters. So that's a lot, you know. And clearly they like working with him because he wasn't doing that's a Warner Brothers franchise. So clearly they like working with him over there, Warner Brothers. So this is an interesting choice.
Starting point is 00:21:25 But I mean, how Jordan is the cocky quarterback fly? He's the 80s villain with the fucking collar turned up. He's the preppy, arrogant kid who always gets the girl. I think Roland could do that. Which elitist guy? You don't think Brolin could pull that off? Nolan is blue collar, man. Brolin is wearing wrangler jeans and carrying the sledgehammer with the hard hat.
Starting point is 00:21:46 He is not wearing the jacket. You're stereotyping. You're stereotyping them. But who knows? We'll see. Not a bad stereotype. Not a barrier stereotype. But we'll see what happens with it.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I ask you guys if you think it's a good choice to have Josh Bromber as Iceman. That's your fucking hell, Jordan. Yeah. You love cursing, huh? Not anymore. Not anymore. Well, anyway, I ask you guys what you think. Go ahead and put your comments in there.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Tell me what you think of whether or not you think Brolin is the right choice. Are they going to get somebody else? we are going to get to some other topics in just a moment. And I also wanted to tell you that we're taking your questions, as we've told you many times over to what we do here on the Monday show, and we're going to wind up doing on every show. Once we go live every day, as we'll take your questions after we finish the main topics.
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Starting point is 00:27:10 and they get themselves something wonderful. So there you go. There you go. There you go. All right. So let's get to the next story here, which there is something that I thought, was interesting. Do you see this thing about Ian McKellen? Yeah, let's talk about this. I'm going to talk about this because I loved his
Starting point is 00:27:27 comment about it and I and I, you know, I love the idea behind it also. But here's here's the overall story. Once again, this one is from dark horizons here about the great Ian McKellen and here it is. So Ian McKellen has been asked to return as Gandalf. So the 85 year old Sir Ian McKellen made head. headlines earlier this year where he fell off the stage while playing Shakespeare's Falstaff and Robert X Player King's play on the West End. Since then, he's been recovering and says he has no plans to quit acting just yet. He was speaking with the big issue.
Starting point is 00:28:02 He revealed that he has already been approached to come back to one of his most iconic roles. Gandalf, he said, I've just been told there are going to be more films and Gandalf will be involved and they hope that I'll be playing him. When, I don't know. What that script is? Not written yet. So they better be quick. The film he's referring to is the Lord of the Roald.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Rings the hunt for Gallum which sees Andy Circus both reprising his role and directing the project which is targeting a 2026 theatrical release five months earlier than Assoca season two oh no the Lord of the Rings original trilogy director peter jackson will produce the movie alongside his longtime producing partners Fran Walsh and philippa boiens on film mckellan most recently appeared in anna tucker's the critic and narrated the two episodes of peacock's first season of Ted. Okay. So, John, you know, you hear this and you hear his comments and I think he's spot on, right? It's like, yeah, of course, you can get him, get him. But he's 85 years old. The poor guy fell off the stage recently, too. He's moving, he's moving a little slower as you do
Starting point is 00:29:03 when you're 85 years old. And if you get him, you film his scenes first. Yeah, with a lot of de-aging. With a lot of de-age. Do you need to? Do you need to de-age scandal? I don't know for the time frame. It's kind of immortal. You could just change. I mean, you could do a couple things here and there, but you didn't have enough beard makeup on him. You wouldn't even tell. But you just got to, but you talk about long schedules and you talk about, you know, there's only how much do you put him in? You've got to take into consideration he's 85 years old, probably 86 or something by the time you started shooting. Shoot his scenes first. Yeah, yeah. Get him out of the way first. Make sure he's comfortable. Make sure he's given you what you need and then move on to everyone else. But like, it's a smart move. You want to get people excited, you bring him back. You know, don't forget, Andy isn't a seasoned filmmaker. Like, this is still new in his change in his career here to do some more directing. So why not bring an old friend back? Why not bring someone you've worked with for quite some time that is also one of the most beloved character,
Starting point is 00:30:06 or played one of the most beloved characters ever on film? So it makes all the sense in the world. But like when James Earl Jones came back to play Vader, don't be expecting the 85. to be 65 or 75. Those days are a long past. So, you know, it's going to be a different performance for sure, but why not do it if you can do it, you know? I'm like to back as Magneto in Secret Wars.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I would love to see that. That one I don't know if he's good. He would do because I think with Gandalf, at least you could just have them stand here with the stick, say a few cool things and that's it. You know, it's like you don't really you could do. I think it's, I think you're right. I think the sticks.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Stay here with the stick. Do me a favor. And just don't fall. Please don't fall, sir. We need you okay. And I think that, you know, it's a smart move to get him if you can get him. Yeah. But it's going to be, yeah, it's going to, it's going to be, they got to move.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Like he said, he knew it too. He's like, you got to hurry up and do it fast. Yeah. So, but I'm excited. Are you excited for that movie overall? I'm cautiously optimistic. Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of the Lord of the Rings films. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:14 You know, I like the second one a lot. I like elements of the third one for sure. I'm not the fan of the first one. I like the hobby films a little bit better. So I'm cautiously optimistic, but I hope it all works. It's only because of Andy. If it was Peter Jackson coming back, I think I'd be really excited. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:30 But because Andy is kind of a still new filmmaker, I'm nervous about what they're going to create. Yeah, I mean, I hated his venom. His venom was effing terrible. It wasn't great. I do like Andy Circus a lot. I love him as a person. love him as an actor and I think that you know I never saw it did you see the jungle book that he did yeah I did I got an hour into it and I was like I I'm feeling
Starting point is 00:31:51 nothing no okay well I don't love that I mean I didn't I didn't see it but um when you when Favreau's is so good yeah that's true it was too it was too close it was too close it was so good that Favreau version it really was um okay so I wonder and I ask you guys what do you think do you think that it This was, you know, a move that they should make? Should they definitely get Gandalf back? Should they, Ian McCullen? Should he come back?
Starting point is 00:32:21 And if they do, it's something we didn't really discuss. You know, before we move on, I asked John that. If they decide that, you know, okay, if he's like, okay, I'm just, I feel a little too old for this. And it's a big schedule. What do you do if you need Gallup? I mean, not Gallup. If you need Gandalf, do you recast or do you ask him for permission to do the deep fake? like what do you do if you need them if you've written it at this point what do you do
Starting point is 00:32:47 what's the most recent thing they did where they put like the combination oh yeah like we just saw an alien romulus right if they do a better version of that yeah then i think it's possible i think you can make it work right a little bit of the luke situation as well with mark camel coming back to a degree in what they did at the end of mando season two so i think there's there's you can make an effort there to make it seem seamless and certainly technology is there hopefully they find better people than what we've seen in recent efforts so i think it is that's the route you go with my question to you is this why are they even talking to him is this a robert down a junior situation i mean i like the hobbit movies but i know a lot of people didn't like
Starting point is 00:33:26 the hobbit movies and i wonder if when you've got the rings of power series that like i've heard no buzz on this for season two so do you think like they are going to the greatest hits quickly and this is a way to kind of take the pressure off of andy bringing back so because if we start hearing other people coming back at that point you start to wonder like well what is this it would make sense that get gandolph is around during this time yeah he knew he was aware of gollum he oh sure he knew i think i wouldn't be the greatest hits doesn't hit for that one um because because he would be around and i i think in the same way that i didn't get upset when and i actually thought it made sense that luke came back for the mandolian because yeah i like that why you're bringing it back you need to
Starting point is 00:34:09 You just rely on Luke Skywalker? No, because he's the only Jedi running around the place, and he's like the most powerful one. He would be aware of this guy. He would be aware of it. In the same way, they're so stupid that Yoda doesn't show up into the last six seconds of the accolay. He would be right, his nose would be right in this thing going, what the hell's going on, guys?
Starting point is 00:34:27 Yep. Not at the end. Hey, we kept this thing from me the whole time, Chief. It's like, canceled, we are. Because you waited too long to put me in the show. Accomplice you've made me. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Yeah. Stupid. So that's, I think that it makes sense. So then I ask you, what do you think? Do you think that we should do this? Do you think that Gandoff should come back or, you know, is John Wright? Is it one of these things where maybe it is? Just trying to rely on nostalgia because they want to get people excited about Lord of the Rings again. Put your comments in there and tell us exactly what you think. As I mentioned, there's a ton of stories I kind of broke today, right? I was doing this. And this was the other one. And this was that Annie Teller Joy, Furiosa herself. She wants to play Elsa in Frozen. She wants to play the live-action version of Elsa. Furiosa and the Queen's Gambit star Aniazza She is keen to play Princess Elsa in the live-action version of Disney's animated hit Frozen. Two Frozen films have been released so far with a third and likely fourth on the way.
Starting point is 00:35:31 The 2013 original grossed $1.28 billion from $150 million budget and became a massive pop culture phenomena. The sequel, though not quite as beloved, grossed even more. 1.4 billion. Though Disney has yet to announce plans for a Frozen Live Action remake, it's very likely to happen at some point. Speaking with Vogue Hong Kong, the 28-year-old explained why she's keen for the part, which should be different to any role she's done before, and that's part of the appeal. She says, I really want to do a musical because I'm a little too obsessed with my current job. I love the challenge of completing impossible tasks. I think that's incredibly motivating for me. So the idea of being able to sing, and act the same time is really exciting to me.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I think Frozen's gonna be great. Shooting ice cubes out of your hands can be a lot of fun and you'll be the favorite at every kid's birthday party. All my siblings have kids now, so I would love for them to be able to say, my aunt is also, that would be great. The third animated Frozen is expected to hit cinemas in 2027.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Okay, so you know me. I don't believe that the movie star really sells tickets these days. Yeah, one that does. And you tell her Joy, who was phenomenal and Furioso. One of my main arguments was that not a household name. I think with this comment, I think you greenlight live action frozen tomorrow. Because this is perfect casting.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Right. Because she wouldn't be the main star. Anna is your main star. Elsa is the show of your role. Yeah. So if you've got someone like Anya Taylor Joy and her talent and her incredible abilities to play Elsa, an ice queen. And certainly there are elements of Anya's performances at times
Starting point is 00:37:12 that can be a bit like kind of push you away like you saw in Queen's Gambit. She can play this in her sleep. So I agree with you. If you can get ania, she's got the body build for it. She's got like the looking at everything about it. She is, I mean, when I read that article,
Starting point is 00:37:25 I haven't read anything else that she wanted to play Elsa. And I'm like, if I'm Bob Iger, I'm like, make this movie. Yeah. Make this movie. Like it's, it'll, a frozen live action film will make, a ton of cash. Well, it's too close to Frozen 3. Who cares? It's like you hear those numbers 1.2 and 1.4
Starting point is 00:37:43 for just the two. People lost their minds when they announced the third one, make the third film, do a live action. The only thing that I would say is I don't know if Annie Teller Joy is a great singer. She clearly has to have confidence in herself because she wants to do this role. Yeah. But that, Dina Mansell, that song ain't easy to hit. No, you're right. You're right, because she's such a great Broadway singer. Oh, the challenge alone is going to be there for her.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And I think that's what makes her such a good actress. She likes to challenge herself. Yeah. I love this casting. I absolutely love it. I think that it is if it's if it actually happens, I think it's brilliant. And I think that now I wonder, though, I guess that's a question I ask you is, why does she say this?
Starting point is 00:38:26 Does she say this because she's doing one of these things where she's making a pitch for herself? Or is this something that's been kind of floating around the place? Oh, I think she's making a pitch. And I think her people have maybe heard something. And maybe Disney's reached out and they're like, we're talking to a few people. And so this is her way of being like, I want it. I'm telling you I want it. Let's get to the table and figure this out.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And so I think it's smart. You're running it up the flagpole to see people's responses to it. So it helps her in the negotiating stage of the situation. So I think it's smart all around for her to play it or to refer to say it so that she can play it down the road. So yeah, I'm 100% this is a smart move by a very intelligent actress, regardless of how she's like, oh my God, you guys love me, which is all, I think it's very authentic as opposed to Taylor Swift. I, I, but I like, but I think Anya is also very shrewd and smart. And so she knows the business.
Starting point is 00:39:21 She knows what she's doing. It's not an accident that she's found her way into so many different franchises and has been able to knock it out of the park in all of them when she appears in it. So yeah. Somebody, I think somebody just said it in the chat, I think. you know who would be a great honor who Kaley Spaney oh that's an interesting choice and you tell her joy as Elsa and Kaylee Spaney as Anna would be next level live action I actually right that wow that would be a that's a live action I don't get excited for these live action Disney movies that would be a good movie that would be a good movie with those two if they can if they can pull it off and then you know and then I think you'd probably
Starting point is 00:40:00 have to get Josh Gad back is all off, though. I think you'd have to. Fine. You don't like Josh Gad? I'm not a Josh Gad. He annoys you. You know, it's like, don't make me do this. Don't get me. Go ahead. Might as well go. You haven't had a rant yet. You might as well go and do this one.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Go off on Josh Gad. That wouldn't, that wouldn't have been on my bingo card, though. It's like Balushi, Farley. You know, and then you started, it becomes a law of diminishing returns by the time he to Josh Gad. No offense. I just have never been a Josh Gad guy. And I thought his, him and Beauty and the Beast was like the worst part of the film. And I, but I love that song. I mean, that's one of my favorite karaoke songs. I will sing in summer all the time because it's in my range. I'm not a
Starting point is 00:40:48 great singer, but I can hit those notes. So I like his portrayal of Olaf, but I just, I don't know. I think it's a new live action. So why not just recast everybody? So why would you bring him back? bring a get somebody better get somebody better who's out there he was you know get a young actor out there to play the role you know young and so it's it's a it's a it's a voice role you better bet that he's coming back yeah it's it's voice they're gonna olaf he'll be back as olaf if they do it and we're this is by the way this has not even been announced this movie yeah i know we're we're we're talking about and casting it as if it's happened but uh anyway so i'll ask you would be interesting too who's that the princes i know that well there's two there's
Starting point is 00:41:31 so much you know guys i'll tell you who i just who i just interviewed and who's also already kind of played i'd like to see him play less of the uh you know he could have played uh who's who's the i forget the character's name in in uh frozen who turns out to be the turd who's on his boyfriend the hans or something like that yeah let me look i'll look it up well yeah havin hant who are you thinking i'm i'm not hans but yeah i think maybe this hit his hans the bag i who billy magnuson i'd like to see play the way he's he might be a little older though believe bill it was it would be a great choice if it was yeah but he's a little i think billy mages said right yeah he'd be good yeah he'd be good
Starting point is 00:42:12 yeah he's the good guy yeah uh and go no christoph is the guy christoph is a good guy he's the good friend is the freaking reindeer spens the reindeer so i was right hans it's hans who was the bagh so yeah yeah yeah but i if bill i think billy magneson's like 40 though so i think you'd probably you'd probably want to cast a little younger i don't know but uh yeah Either way, fun, fun nonetheless. I ask you guys, do you think that this is something that should happen? Is Anya Teller Joy the right call for Elsa? Do you think they should make a live action if they're going to do it?
Starting point is 00:42:44 What do you say? Put your comments in there. Tell us, we got to hear about it. We're going to do one or two more stories before we get to your questions. And I see we already have a bunch of super chats coming in there, as I mentioned to you guys earlier before. We go through, you've already started. sending in some. I think we have over almost 20
Starting point is 00:43:05 already right now. So we'll be answering all your questions as we get to them. We're just going to finish up a few more stories. Now this is something John, we talked about. You and I talked about this the other day, and I couldn't believe it when someone said how much money that Clooney and Brad Pitt were getting for
Starting point is 00:43:20 Wolves. Yeah, $35 million each. That's what the report was. Well, Clooney says that's not necessarily true. There was a report that came back from the New York Times. that indicated that George Clooney and Brad Pitt were getting 35 million each to star in the Wolf's film on Apple TV
Starting point is 00:43:37 on the Apple TV Plus service. The John Watts directed film screened at the Venice Film Festival today to a five-minute standing ovation. That screening marked one of the few cinema screenings for the film, which is otherwise going direct to streaming on Apple TV. And that's coming at the end of the month.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Speaking at a press conference for the film, Clooney shot down the pay story, saying it was considerably less than what was reported. 32 million. After calling it an interesting article. He said, whatever her source was for our salary, it is millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars less than what was reported.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I am only saying that because I think it's bad for our industry, if that's what people think it's a standard bearer for salaries. I think that's terrible. It'll make it impossible to make films. The response comes a year after Clooney spoke during the WGA and SAG After Strike that actors and writers in large numbers have lost her ability to make a living. and the strikes were an inflection point. Wolfe sees the actress playing two competing fixers
Starting point is 00:44:35 who were hired to cover up the same high-profile crime and forced to work together as the night starts spiraling out of control. He said, yes, we wanted it to be released in theaters. We've had some bumps along the way that happens. When I did the boys in the boat, we did it for MGM, and then it ended up being for Amazon, and we didn't get a foreign release, which was a surprise. There are elements of this that we're figuring out.
Starting point is 00:44:57 You guys are all in this, too. we're all in this industry and we're trying to find our way past COVID and everything else. So there's some bumps along the way. Clooney also spoke about the film only getting a very limited theatrical release on September 20th, one week before it's streaming. He says it was a bummer. And then he added some other stuff inside of the video there. So, okay, with the more important thing here, though, John, is his comments, right?
Starting point is 00:45:21 And he said that the woman's report, because what he said, he doesn't come off as a dishonest person to me. He just, I don't know. No, I like money. doesn't come up with a dishonest person so he said like it's significantly less than what it was because and he and he followed that up by saying what i said the other day what i was so shocked about i was like how that is so bad for the business if they're doing 70 million dollars for two actors for a movie that's barely even getting a theatrical release it's just apple just putting money in there and he said yeah it's bad for business if that's the standard of it so well what does that mean if it's millions and
Starting point is 00:45:54 million dollars. It's still 20 million is still a lot for that. If it's still 40 million dollars for the both of those guys to do that movie, that's still too much money for me, to be honest. There's a great sequence in the Chicago musical where the voiceover guy goes, ladies and gentlemen, now the two-step by rocks. And you see them dance around and backtrack the things they've done are said and try to give a new narrative for what they've done in the musical. And so I think this is what George Clooney is doing. Because if you listen to this and look, I can't stretch out anymore and do mental gymnastics in my age. But what he's essentially doing is mental gymnastics.
Starting point is 00:46:31 So God love him because he's saying, no, it wasn't that much. It was millions and it didn't get a theatrical release and because it didn't do this. So it might have been 35 initially, but it went down from 35 by the time they kind of settled everything. And they gave money back. He says they gave money back to the film. So clearly they had negotiated a particular rate. And I listen, I know the New York Times on all the sides of political spectrum, people have questions about their reporting. But I kind of think with something like this, they're on point with this.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I think there's sources. And he only said one source, but I'm sure, you know, you kind of triple check, quadruple check your sources at big, big publications like that. And so I kind of take her reporting more truthfully. I think what Clooney is saying is that, oh, we had to give money back and we dropped the price. So we're not making that much. But I mean, you can't say, oh, this is a terrible thing to put out there when Apple has a history, a year-long history of overpaying for all of their movies. This is the same thing I said to the other day. I already see it in the comments.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I've seen it from like two or three different people. Someone says, why are we pocket watching who cares? Another person is like, why do we care? You should care. Well, should we worry the movies are going to be good? Of course. Why do you think, exactly, Clooney said it himself, why do you think the whole reason? Why do you care so much about the budget?
Starting point is 00:47:48 because if they're spending all this money on this budget to overspending, they can't make these movies work. If they're really good, like look at a movie that costs like, you know, last mission impossible. They're lucky that they got the next one off the road because it's kind of cruise and everything too. That movie costs way too much money for what it costs. And there are certain people you can make a movie, let's say you make it for $300 million. And then it only makes, you lose money on it because it still made a ton of money,
Starting point is 00:48:17 but you lost money because all the marketing, everything, it needs to make $800 million. Well, like, well, it costs too much money, we can't make another one. So the quality and the thing that you liked and the things that you were getting invested in, you were not able to get invested in anymore and you can't watch it anymore
Starting point is 00:48:31 because they overspent on this stuff. It hurts the business overall because they overpriced things in general. They start to build up the stuff. It also hurts the theatrical runs of what movies theaters are paying for, how much they're spending on movie prices in general, because they've got to pay for their movies
Starting point is 00:48:45 because they're overspending on budgets. It is very important to you as a movie watcher why you should care for the budget because it hurts quality. Because a lot of times, too, what they'll do is they'll spend $300,400 million on a movie. And they're like, well, because we're spending this much, we've got to spend it on this big action scene and cut out the stuff with the dialogue and make sure that and it hurts the quality of your movie. So that's why a lot of times big budget doesn't mean great story. So anytime I see somebody like, oh, why do you care about budget? If you don't, you're not paying attention to the way this stuff works. It's not a matter of going, oh, I'm not crunching numbers in the back going, oh, you know, you guys are spending too much.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I, oh, this is ridiculous. I'm going to lose my job. I don't care about that. I think it's hurting the industry overall and it's hurting creative. That's the thing. That's what people don't understand. It's all relative. If you overpay for the top, everybody below the top pays the price for the overpayment at the top.
Starting point is 00:49:39 That's how it works. Screw the movie business. Put it in any context that you want, any business. if you overpay the executives at the top because they have valued themselves at a certain rate and the company is willing to negotiate the higher rate, the people below aren't going to be able to make the raises, aren't being like everyone's going to have to wait their turn
Starting point is 00:49:58 longer in order to get a shot at making more money. That's how it works in all the businesses. So if you do something like this, I mean, we just talked about Asoka Season 2. If Asoka Season, I'm sorry, not Asoka Season 2, the Acoqlein, if the Accolite had been made for $80 million, they would have probably been more open to bringing back a season two at 80 million. Of course.
Starting point is 00:50:20 And there's 180 million. So those are those things. If you spend too much and the quality is terrible, that affects everything across the board. That's why you watch the money here. 100% because it's like especially when it comes to television. We're talking about movies. Like movies is one thing. Movies like I think we made it clear as far as why movies come and TV.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And just to reiterate, if you're, it depends on who you're aiming. for it. If you're like, well, I want to do, there's a particular, you go and you're a director and writer and you say, well, we are aiming towards this audience and we're going here, you have to look and say, okay, well, this is what you have. If you, if we don't really care about a size of the audience, it's going to watch this because it's going to turn some people away, and that's fine. Yeah. But we got to make this thing for like $30, $40 million. And if we do that and more chances with lower budgets than you can with hire. And you can do it. And let's do four episodes at $10 million a piece. And we'll do a four episode. And, and, and I'll do a four episode. And, and
Starting point is 00:51:13 I'll let you do 50 minute episodes. And then we'll, as long as we hit this amount of views and we're good. At 180 million, everybody needs to watch this show, guys. Everybody. So this, what we're doing here, I don't think everybody's going to watch it. And then they don't. And then they don't get a season two. And then people wonder and they're tweeting what, what happened?
Starting point is 00:51:34 Yeah. So anyway. Okay. Last story here before we get to the questions, Joe. Yeah. We're back to box office. back to box office. I'm not betting a damn thing.
Starting point is 00:51:45 You better not bet anything because I told you. You're not listening to me. Two billion. You think he's going to make two billion? I'm joking. Because you didn't even think it was going to make a billion anymore. All right. Five weeks out from the release of Todd Phillips' Joker Folly Adieu
Starting point is 00:51:58 has appeared on the earliest tracking sites and it looks set for a massive box office opening. Oh, yeah. Box office theory is reporting that the film is targeting domestic opening weekend in the 120 to 150 million million range with their estimate being a $130 million result. That's decidedly above the 96.2 that the film opened to in 2019. That's a movie that is currently the fifth highest R-rated debut in history behind the three Deadpool films and the first it movie. Though Deadpool and Wolverine will
Starting point is 00:52:30 hold on to the crown for R-rated films with its 211 million opening back in July, the Joker sequel could come in second as the other three films are only separated by several million, about 123 to 132. It's also lacking competition. Short of next weekend's likely 100 million debut for Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. There's no other major openers in weeks aside from the more kids-kewing Transformers won in late September, which is expected to earn around 37 million its debut weekend. Even October should give the film a pretty clear run until Venom the Last Dance on October 25th.
Starting point is 00:53:06 So I mean this movie, John, you didn't think it was. going to make a bill i did you did okay i that i didn't think it would make a bill i think it's going to make i'm not going to quote you on that one because i don't know um but um but yeah this movie's going to do hand over fist oh yeah oh yeah and i see people going like oh i don't know it's a musical i don't know if i want to watch the same people said i don't know it's a movie about the joker that's not really tied to the dc u i don't know if i want to watch you're all going to go you're all going to go and if todd phillips has done as good of a job as he did in the last one this thing is going to make money hand over fist.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And the fact that it doesn't have any competition, I actually think the 138 is kind of low. I would be surprised if it's not at 150 or higher. Because Deadpool and Woolring blew the doors off people's expectations. The, what was the one with Blake lively blew the doors on people's expectations? So this is a year that is kind of weak for movies to a degree. And because there aren't that many coming out in competition with each other,
Starting point is 00:54:04 people are more than willing to go over and over and over again to the movie theater, or not feel like they're missing out or having to go to another movie. So I think this thing, if it's great, I think people are going to go multiple times through the weekend and support it. So I think 150 is more believable in my opinion. I think 140, 150 is realistic and could happen. I don't know about multiple viewings for The Joker because it's not the same kind of lighthearted laughing fest that Deadpool is.
Starting point is 00:54:30 The first movie I love, not an easy rewatch. It's a great movie. And I really enjoy watching it. when I see it, but you gotta, you gotta know what kind of mental state you're gonna be in going in and going out Yeah, and and so that's the same thing it is it is, but it's like this isn't a this isn't a movie that you're like oh, I want to go and laugh my ass off again and go and go and have something feel like it's a deadpool Wolverine's a fun movie. It's just a fun movie this I can't imagine this is gonna be fun I can imagine this is gonna be fun I gonna mess like it's gonna be whole we're just watching it like a spectacle I mean people could be curiously what kind of Harley Quinn they do that's why I think I think people, that's why I think a lot of people are going to go. And then I think what's going to happen is that people are going to go, is it any good air, it's a musical?
Starting point is 00:55:13 And the people who went to see it, are you got to see this movie. And I think it's going to play that way. But I think it gets close to a bill, especially with this freaking opening that they're going to have surpassing the first. And if it's really good, the question is how much of a musical is it going to be, right? You and I, you got us on board with musicals. It's going to be fun. But there are people, the reason they're not marking it as a musical is because people won't go. Westside Story, the remake, was one of the better musicals that I've seen, and I love the original.
Starting point is 00:55:42 It's one of the better movies that I've seen in quite a while. People just aren't flocking out to see musicals, man. You just not. Yeah, I mean, you've got to hide it because Walker made $600 million. Yes, exactly. Good point. Good point. Yeah, and that's a musical.
Starting point is 00:55:54 And so clearly they're doing that here. And we don't know how much of a musical it is, right? Because is it, if it's all in their minds, then it's supposedly conveying whatever's going on in their warped minds. And so that's going to be fun to experience. creatively. What can they do? What can Todd Phillips do? The set designers, costume designers, everybody, the production design, everybody involved in this. What are they going to bring about? How long are these songs going to be? How relevant are they to the overall plot? This is all
Starting point is 00:56:22 going to be essential in how they're doing it. You know, Makuga was very legendary for Haiti musicals because he didn't understand we would just stop and sing it and has nothing to do with what's going on in the main overall plot. Makuga is the kind of person they want to bring in. So you want to make it work within the construct organically of the overall story that you're telling. So I think that's the approach they're having here. And look, it opened for 96 and made a bill. If it opens for 150, I think a 1.5 is a possibility, especially with no competition. Curious.
Starting point is 00:56:52 I mean, it also depends on what kind of legs Beetlejust is going to have because Beatles just opening up at 100 million opening weekend. Is that the biggest September weekend, like ever? That's kind of a surprise to me that people are thinking a hundred million for Beetlejuice. It's a big weekend. 100 million for it. It's got a lot of hype behind it. It's an iconic movie.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Have you seen the movie yet? I've seen it tomorrow. I've seen it tomorrow night. Me too. Me too. So I rewatched the original of the weekend for a reaction video from my channel. And it's only an hour and a half. Yeah, it's short.
Starting point is 00:57:24 This one's an hour and 45. So I'm excited. Look, it's one of my most anticipated films. I'm excited to see it. Joker is also one of my anticipated films. So I'm curious how they, they're both going to play. There is some, it's starting to get, starting to beef up in September now leading into the end of the year. So we're going to have some good, some good stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:45 All right. So we've got some negative reviews too. So it did it. Yeah, Vanity Fair didn't like it. There was a couple other sites that didn't like, you know, juice. But then there's been people who were very positive about Beto juice. The critic response is going to have no impact on this movie. It's not. It's going to have no impact on this movie. Like I can tell you, like my, my almost 13-year-old is a major Beatlejuice fan, loves the musical, loves everything about it. She could read 100, see, 100 reviews, and they could all say it stinks,
Starting point is 00:58:16 not keeping her out of the theater. No way. It's Beatles' just, man. True. Yeah. All right, I ask you guys, put your thoughts in there about Joker, obviously. Do you think that this movie's going to make a billion dollars?
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Starting point is 01:02:24 about yourself and then I'll show you one of these apples. I tell you, it's called the Outlaw Nation, my channel. It's going to be the John Roker channel very, very soon heading over there. So look, you go to YouTube.com slash John Roker says, wonderful content over there. Some of you aren't heading over there. Head over there for God's sakes. We got so much fun going on. The geek buddies are a blast with Michael Vogel and Shannon McClung, two people who are industry, vets who are working in the industry. Not a lot of people who have these geek shows or have people who've been in these rooms, who've been in these conference calls and had these conversations.
Starting point is 01:02:56 and pitch shows and been show runners. That's what we tell for you in the geek buddies. We have hands-on experience of creating shows, making shows, being in there. So our analysis is a much deeper analysis than some of these other shows. So give us a shot. The hot mic, you know Jeff Snyder's reputation. That guy knows everybody in town and has his ear to the ground. Great stuff going on there.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Laura Kelly, Kevin Spence on the Jedi Way, fantastic people. My stuff I've got going on with reactions and trailer reactions and reviews and the stuff with Winston A Marshall, we got the spill of T. Keela. Come on. Hang out with us, for God's sakes. Outlaw Nation, YouTube.com says, John Roker says, come and do it. Come on. Come on, do it. Is that good? Look at that. Wow.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Look at that thing. Yeah, dude. It's good stuff. Look at that. Crunchy. I haven't seen something that big. Never mind. That's where you're going with that. The medical condition. Anyway, all right.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Okay. Well, you didn't finish up what you were saying there because you come up. Who knows who you're perfect? All right. You know what's funny? It's my friend of mine who watches the show. And I don't think he'd have a problem you're telling you this. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Because he's, he's thrown in, he's thrown in Super Chats before, too. Nice. And I think that when the show first started, he's like, Raoka again. This guy, oh, he's just, he's one of those people who gets pissed off with you quick, right? And then I talk to him. And I talk to my brother, my brother's like, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:18 James really loves Roca now. And he's like, because he just doesn't, because he definitely speaks his opinion. Any like that? All right. So here we go. We got some, we got a lot of questions. And let's start with this one.
Starting point is 01:04:32 And we'll be here, by the way. We will be here with you guys. So throw them in there while we're still going up, and that's fine. Justin Fountain. Yes, happy labor bait. Justin Fountain, I'm cautiously optimistic about Jurassic World Rebirth. We haven't talked about that, by the way. I should read that story, though.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I have faith in Gareth. And while it sounds video gamey, There is some logic since larger animals don't get cancer hardly ever because of the mass like whales and elephants. That's interesting. That's probably something that we should do then. You know, because of that amazing comment and Super Chat there. Let's talk about that Jurassic World thing real quick. This is some potential story details, John.
Starting point is 01:05:17 So check this out. This is, again, I'm reading this over from Dark Horizon here. and here it is. New story details have apparently emerged regarding the Universal Pictures upcoming semi-reboot of its Jurassic franchise with Jurassic World Rebirth. Recently, the first photos
Starting point is 01:05:35 from the currently in-production movie went online showcasing stories Scarlett Johansson, Jonathan Bailey, Mahershal Ali, and the film's first poster. The film's title was also revealed, and so far the reception to the name hasn't been the greatest. A brief synopsis was also released at the time,
Starting point is 01:05:48 but now SFF Gazette has posted what they claim to be more detailed. The new synopsis reads as follows. The film will be set five years following the events of drastic world dominion when the planet's ecology has proven largely inhospitable to dinosaurs. Those remaining exist in isolated, cordial environments with climates resembling the one in which they once strived. The three most colossal creatures with the tropical biosphere hold the key to a drug
Starting point is 01:06:16 that will bring miraculous life saving benefits to humankind. Covert operations expert Zora Bennett attempts to, secure the genetic material from the dinosaurs but ends up stranded with a civilian family on an island that holds a secret being kept from humanity for decades. All right. It seems like the same old same old. Yeah. Where's the locusts? Come on. Oh, God. Think of that. But it seems like, you know, I guess again, they're trapped with a family and they got to run away with a dinosaur. This is going to help humanity. You got to help humanity. You got to help them. help humanity. Didn't we just see this in Alien Romulus? If we can get this down to the surface,
Starting point is 01:06:59 we're going to save humanity. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not that excited about it. I've hoped. I got to look at that. I mean, I think that from, let me go back to our, our friend Justin, what Justin says, I think Garrett Edwards gives me a bit of hope with it when it comes to, because I liked the last movie he did more so than you did. But I'm the creator. But I liked the way he shot it. But going back, Back, here we go. Back to the comments from earlier, people who wondered about why you care about budgets so much
Starting point is 01:07:27 because he had an $80 million budget to work with. He didn't have 150, and directors have to challenge themselves to make that 80 work. How much is they given him from Jurassic? I hope it's not to 150. I hope it's like 70 or 80. And the reason why I say it's possible that they could get it to at least 100 is because Scarlett Johansson's your only high-priced
Starting point is 01:07:49 talent. Mahershali's probably got a nice price tag, but not too much that's. going to break the bank with two big stars, right? The rest of the cast is pretty much not, not huge. So I think, you know, let's scale this down. Scale it down. A number of sites are reporting that the budget is possibly,
Starting point is 01:08:12 and I'm not saying, I'm not saying this is truthful. I'm saying, I'm like the way you're setting this up. Some of these sites are reporting that it's $265 million. So stupid. It's like you don't. If that's true. When is it going to change? When is it going to change?
Starting point is 01:08:27 Because like, and I guess it's like a math thing too. I'd love to like have a studio like a big wig on here. Not like there's something exact. They won't tell you the truth. But this is the question I would ask. This is a question that I ask this. If you have an IP like Jurassic World where you know people are going to see it, why do you have to spend $260 million on it?
Starting point is 01:08:47 When you can spend $100 on it, put somebody in it and scale it back and not just throw all this money like this because you have to because now you've got to make almost you got to make at least $800 million in order for this thing to do well and you put so much pressure on the director you this is the answer to your question before for everybody's like why do you care you're putting pressure on the actors you're putting pressure on the writers now to come up with constant rewrites to make sure that the studio execs feel like their money's being spent the right way and it's like why are you making this movie for so much you can make imagine the profit that they can make spend the marketing on it, sure. Spend the $100 million on the marketing and make it for a heart. Look at the
Starting point is 01:09:25 freaking converse Godzilla. That movie cost $100 million to make. You made hand over fist. Yeah, the Jurassic World Wiki and numerous other sites that I just looked at real quick, all say 265. I think Illuminarity is the one that's got the lowest one at 185. But either way, it's still in the $200 million age, if not more. So yeah, I hear you. The thing I've hope on this one is that there's already a script. And that's the thing I had a problem with the creators. I thought there were some script issues and Gareth Edwards, some of the stuff he did that with the story. So hopefully the story is good and Gareth is coming in to direct a kick-ass film because he's such a great, visually great director. So can the story match the visuals?
Starting point is 01:10:04 That's sometimes the issue. I think that's why Tony saved, Tony Gilroy saved Rogue 1. And so you're like, okay, well, can the story match the visuals? Well, you hope that happens here with an already written script by David Kep. So yeah, 265 is a lot. But I have him cautiously. optimistic. That being said, this is a plot we've seen numerous times before. I'm less excited about this than I was. I still like Scarlet Johansson a lot, but I'm I'm less excited. All right. Here's the next question from our good friend Mike Joyce. Mike Joyce always helping us out over here. Calling it now, the biggest secret in rebirth is the dino human hybrids and they can say is Alan that are that that are aliens are behind everything. I know. That's
Starting point is 01:10:48 another thing that's that they always feel like they got to go the next step up like the crazy thing it's like i think scale it down scale it down it's like still hoping they were going to get this thing of um you know the terminator i keep bringing up terminers i'm trying to will it into existence where they're going to make a 1984 low budget terminator movie where it's like a horror film again like a 24 style you know that's what i'm that's what i'd love wouldn't you like to see an a 24 like 30 million dollar terminator movie 100 right 100 Show me that. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:11:21 All right. Next one. This is from Justin again. Thank you, Justin. Part two. There's a lot of young creators who are on YouTube, dude, who can make this for way cheap and make it look fantastic. Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Dude, some of the stuff that's done on the internet on YouTube, the deep fake stuff is way better than what the studio does. Way better. Justin Fountain. Part two of my super chat is the secret being that of DX, a dino to human transmissible disease from the lost world novel. That's my guess, but who knows? Nerdy Jurassic Park fan here. You should be writing the movie. Honestly.
Starting point is 01:11:54 That's like that's the kind of stuff that sounds more exciting to me. It's like the first novel was so detailed. And you know, Spielberg got a hold of it and made it the big blockbuster that it was. And it's great. But it's so detailed that first novel. I'd love to see that. I'm surprised they didn't, Universal didn't go with a Jurassic Park series for a peacock. I guess maybe because of the-
Starting point is 01:12:15 What are you doing over there? Yeah, sorry about that. The light sometimes play some trance music? Because the change in the sun, they like it's a little bright. But yeah, yeah, yeah. They did what they could.
Starting point is 01:12:27 And now it's like, well, every time they try to swing back to make it a little more nerdy, it's harder because they also have the expectations of trying to hit the mainstream big budget audience, you know? So they can't make it too nerdy. And because that's why the Holocaust,
Starting point is 01:12:41 the locust thing really kind of messed them up. It was just not the right. Two different things. Yeah, just not the right situation. So, all right, let's get into the next question here, and that is Kenneth Colton, September 12th, the Old Man Season 2 and the Penguin series on September 19th. Whoa, they're both coming out the same weekend, huh? Busy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Very excited for these shows. Oh, yeah, an NFL is back. There is. I'm telling you, so much is coming back right now. So much. Tonight, the Noles tonight. I'm about four episodes into Bad Monkey, by the way. Great show.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Dude, great show. I finished the whole show. It's fantastic. Really good, really good show. So I'd you like it. Cannot wait for Old Man season two. Cannot wait for that. And the penguin, I'm also equally excited for that.
Starting point is 01:13:27 That I'm probably going to, the penguin I'm probably going to do reactions to. The other one, I start my movie reactions. I think this week we're doing, yeah, the first one we're doing is Borderlands with me and Sarah. Was that coming out on the digital? It's already out on digital. Yeah. So Matt Sarah and I are going to watch that. My wife and I are actually going to watch, what's the Shama,
Starting point is 01:13:47 on one that just came out. Oh yeah, trap. Trap. We're going to watch that one. My friend Tina is going to watch Bumblebee with me or long legs. I don't know yet. And then my friend Sam has never seen Logan. So I'm going to watch Logan with her. So that's going to be, those are going to be the ones that we
Starting point is 01:14:03 start out with. We're excited with that. But Penguin, I'll probably be doing some stuff for sure. But yeah, Kenneth, I'm with you, me and the old man season two, and then football's back. So pretty excited. It's old dude time, finally. That's right. Carlton Rutter, London, and calling what's up karlton wolves 90 million for cluny and pit and it goes straight to streaming so not 90 but it was reported reported 70 apparently but he says no i i still think 40's too much
Starting point is 01:14:29 what are your thoughts on it not having a theatrical release well it seems like that's what apple does it's like i don't know if they necessarily care about theatrical as much and i just i just don't think that they do every i mean i was just mentioning bad monkey every time i turned on a bad monkey episode there was a trailer for that movie that comes on first for every time because they're promoting it they want you to watch it on TV they don't want they don't want you to watch it in the theater they want you to watch it on Apple my wife is the first time she starts what's this let's watch this when it comes out on Apple because she you know she's not going to see in the theater so that might be one hey it comes out on Apple that might be one to do a watch along
Starting point is 01:15:06 too who knows oh yeah definitely but either way I don't know how it works with Apple we were talking about the last week John how does that work with Apple like they don't really care of they because you can't it doesn't seem like the flowers of the killer moon they were phased at all with how bad that movie did no because that was for that was trying to get awards they were trying to get awards with killers of the flower moon so they they were happy to take a loss on that one but i mean like they just came out with the extra 48 minute footage of the director's cut of napoleon yeah how many people watch that how many people were like you know what i hated the first time around let me see the extra 48 minutes if it's going to be i'd be lying if i'd be lying if i told you that i didn't
Starting point is 01:15:44 turn it on last night for like to be i watched the beginning my after we finished bad monkey my wife yeah she was coming back from i don't know where she was downstairs whatever she comes upstairs and she's like what are you watching i said director just got into poland and she's like it's like we're right about to go to sleep i would but i would still be watching it right now it's like four hours long exactly yeah i'm with you all right um continuing on continuing on all right next one here and this is uh matt sinister mccall here john we always get a good one from him And this is Beth Snyder.
Starting point is 01:16:15 He says, R.D.J. is doom. But there are runners up. Yao Ming, Smoky the Bear, Gordon Ramsey, Otis, and Will Ferrell, but he wouldn't let him
Starting point is 01:16:25 keep his clothes on. Nailed it. As always. I'm pretty sure that's Ellis. You think? No, but he's witty. He's witty, that guy. I always look forward to his
Starting point is 01:16:35 questions. Could be, Brett. It could be. Julius Wyatt. No, it couldn't be Brett. It was too much about moving. Julius Wyatt.
Starting point is 01:16:44 John, will you do a vid if Florida State loses tonight to BC? I'm thinking of doing a live watch on my sports channel. So the lady outlaw, unfortunately, we had a surprise passing on her side of the family. So she's out of town today. We had plans for Labor Day, but she's out of town now. So I may just watch the game live at 430. So come and join me for that on my sports channel. And I'll make an announcement of it sometime this afternoon.
Starting point is 01:17:12 doing that so yeah so i'll do something like that for sure sorry to hear that yeah um all right so random pat hello random pat hey gents happy labor day what do you think the chances of fantastic for being delayed to fall 2025 i'm really hoping they delay it instead of a july release i will say the chances of that you have a better chance of my wife letting me go on a date with julia roberts and she's she's saying yes my wife uh no there's no there's no there's no They're not dealing anything anymore. I think this is it. I think everything's locked in stone because they've got to hit that secret wars dates
Starting point is 01:17:49 for both of these. If they keep pushing stuff, I think the Marvel fan base is going to really start turning against the movie. There's no way. And the push that they're making on this right now, they're, they have videos for it. They just debuted the music at the Hollywood Bowl the other night. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're up and running.
Starting point is 01:18:07 They're ready to go. This is a big, this is a huge movie for them. This is like, well, the biggest movie for them, in my opinion, next year is Captain America because it needs to hit. Because it's just restarting the whole wave again. If it bombs and it doesn't do well and it's not good, it's like, oh, all right, Marble Mist again. All right, cool. Now we want Thunderbolts are good and the Thunderbolt's not good. Then all the pressures on Fantastic Four, but at least you have it, right?
Starting point is 01:18:36 Yeah. But it's positioned in a good spot. it's in July it's right after those two movies so if those two movies hit and then fantastic four hits and it's like oh they finally got it right now they're firing all those cylinders bring out the Avengers movie and then people will be all hyped for Marvel again and if it does yeah go ahead you know so what about the Spider-Man film Christian do you which I think that they should release the Spider-Man film between the Secret Wars movies I mean I kind of feel like I feel like they have to because I feel like they have to yeah well because because
Starting point is 01:19:08 Because Spider-Man has such a big part of Secret Wars. I know, I know. Unless you make him part of it first and then do a movie. But it's like, and I think it also depends on what's your movie. Go back to our conversation with Terminator A-24. I think Spider-Man, obviously not to that lower of a scale. But I think you get away from, I think that Rothman is wrong when it comes to what he's trying to do with the multiverse, bring him back.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Garfield, that is such a studio dumb dumb move. It's like make it your family, the neighborhood Spider-Man movie. Fagie wants to do that. Every thing. Scale it down. Street-level Spider-Man. Let's get that version. We haven't seen him Tom Holland do that yet. Do that.
Starting point is 01:19:54 And then if you can do that kind of movie, then it doesn't matter where you can definitely fit it before the Avengers. Yeah. Fairpoint. Fair point. So we'll see. Okay. Next one here. And that is our great friend. Tim Sim. Hey, Tim. Happy Labor Day. Happy Labor to you.
Starting point is 01:20:11 When looking over the Ackleit videos, the algorithm gave me a great video by Adam and Konova about how streaming destroyed TV, which definitely ties in today's Star Wars TV news. I recommend this to you all to see. Tim, people didn't like the show.
Starting point is 01:20:27 That's it. You can put all the YouTube videos you want, and you know I love you. People did it like the show. There are plenty of streaming shows that explode. Shall I show you House of the Dragon numbers? Like, this is madness. There are so many great streaming shows that do well.
Starting point is 01:20:45 So, yes, streaming has killed some shows, but that was not the reason the Acolyte was not successful. It was not well written. Some of the acting wasn't great. Some of the direction wasn't good. They were clashing tones throughout the whole damn thing. So, come on. I love you, but you're becoming an Acolyte Truther at this point,
Starting point is 01:21:04 and you're going into the wormholes, brother. There's a lot. Look, I love it. I loved. There's a lot. There's a lot of people who wanted this show to come back and want to I do feel though that there are a lot of people making excuses for why and it's like streaming has nothing to do with this. Streaming has nothing to do with this as I think you make a good point. That is just there's a lot of there's a lot of shows that do very very well. There's there's so many different things we can break down that we've broken down in general but how streaming destroyed TV I I would
Starting point is 01:21:37 if someone made a show that said how streaming destroyed the movie theater experience i'd be like oh that that's that's a definite possibility and and very and and i believe it did i did i think there's it or changed it dramatically streaming um but how it destroyed tv no i think it's enhanced it personally but uh i agree yeah i think it's enhanced it because we you're able there's so many because here's here's one of the reasons it enhanced it and you just think about like think about how hard it was to see certain smaller films back, you know, 15, 20 years ago, right? There are smaller films that you're like, oh, what's that movie? Unless I live in Los Angeles and New York, I can't see that movie in the theaters and I'll
Starting point is 01:22:18 have to wait until it's on HBO in a year, right? Right. Now they make these things for Netflix. You get high quality, independent films. They probably just dropped one during the middle of this conversation. They probably just dropped a high level independent film that you can see now because you have so many opportunities. The negative is that there's so much,
Starting point is 01:22:37 it's hard to find stuff, and there's so much to watch. But no, I don't think that Acklead had anything to do with streaming being the problem. If the overall thing is, that's another conversation. Okay. Mad Sinister McCone. Saw the original speak no evil. There is no way the U.S. version will go to the places it did.
Starting point is 01:22:56 When did the studios lose their balls? Was it social media? Nah, studios have always, this is, I can't remember who I was talking to about this. I don't know if it was on the, I can't remember anymore. conversations blend in whether it's off the air or on the air but I was talking to somebody about the thing is with studios it's always been like this from when I was there from before that to after that
Starting point is 01:23:15 you get certain studio execs that are the really good studio execs who take the risks who take the chances but people are too scared because they don't want to lose their jobs so they go through the mechanics and they go through the numbers and they go through the things and they go to what they think is going to get them in trouble they have to throw sponsors and they have to do this they have to do this and they lose the creative juices and they lose what it is so it's not a matter of did they lose their balls it's just a matter of who's in charge of that project and do you get like is when you look at and that's the thing that I always say when the same way that when people are saying that well Disney's ruined star wars you know and Disney's ruined Marvel but when the Avengers and the end
Starting point is 01:23:56 game was great no one said like Disney's the best they never gave Disney credit for that they gave everybody else to credit and it's like it's a thankless job the studios have and the studios execs in the same way the executives on those projects don't get the love either you never hear about the executive that brought the project in or really i mean every once in a while if you really dive into the story but like who founded who championed it who who put who was on set to do all these things like there's a show that's coming out that i had the first three episodes to see and you're going to love it you're going to love this show john the show's right up your alley it's the franchise on hb oh yeah you know it's it's it doesn't it comes out sometime in september october
Starting point is 01:24:32 And do you know what's about? No. Oh, man. It is so this audience is, it's got, um, oh my God. Uh, give me, give me, oh, the great, the great actor, Stephen, uh, from a local, who's old, old Loki? Oh, Richard E. Grant. Yes. God's sake.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Richard E. Grant, um, it's got Daniel Bruill, Billy Magnuson. It's got, it's got, the cash. So this show is about, it's essentially about Marvel. It's essentially about Marvel, but it's, but they never say it. And it's about the, they're making a superhero movie and how the, the franchise is like this big, huge IP that has, you know, lost its way. And they're making it there, it's during the filming of this thing. And Hamish Patel is the main, he's like the first AD. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 01:25:22 And he's got to run this whole operation. And it's, it's like, it's creators of Veep. It's like Veep meets Entourage. And it's, it's, yeah, you're. It's right up your alley. It's, it's, I've seen the first three episodes.
Starting point is 01:25:34 This audience is going to love it. And, and I can't, it's what I talk to Billy Magnuson about. But it's like, it is going to be, uh, but they show the executive that comes on and like,
Starting point is 01:25:45 well, that's the guy they call the help out, like the wolf in, and so that person never gets the, wow, the love. All right. Did you have Billy in studio?
Starting point is 01:25:54 No. No, no. I had them on, um, that's, that is the beauty with these new, uh,
Starting point is 01:25:58 layout and everything too. And shout out to, to Luke from Galaxy Gets. who's been helping me out with the layouts and everything else too. So, yeah, I didn't realize, you know, the whole thing is, too, we did this the whole time, John. I've had the, is the, is my logo been up here? My logo is.
Starting point is 01:26:12 There it is. Why did it go down? I went away. I don't know why I went away. Anyway, so, oh, I know why. And he'll tell me, he's going to tell me exactly why, because I don't have it on a loop. I need to put it on a loop. Anyway, all right, let's get back to this.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Timson. Also, yes, Roka. We, Man United is still stink after your Liverpool destroyed my club yesterday. Our manager isn't doing any favors, getting him sacked, and our existing idiotic player contracts before Ineos took control is frustrating. Hold on. Let me tell you what I just heard there. I don't know what was said in that.
Starting point is 01:26:53 What was said there, John? There's just a bunch of excuses from a Manchester United fan. That's all you need to know. And they got their butts handed to them by a better team. Okay. That's it. All right. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:27:04 I don't know what that means. All right, here we go. So here's the, I know the Yankees. I've been watching the Yankees. Oh, Yankees. It's me. Stivo. Are you both keeping up with AW and WWE?
Starting point is 01:27:16 MJF is top three. So I've been kind of paying attention socially. I saw like the event that went down over the weekend. I said Gunther kept this, kept his belt. Oh, back. Brilliant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that.
Starting point is 01:27:30 I saw a few of those. other things that CN Punk just won his battle right so that was good and um so i'm paying attention i'm casually watching from a distance um what's going on roman anything going on roman over there no you see it came back at summer slam but now he's kind of receded back for a little bit and they're going to figure out what they're going to do next uh with him coming up but they bash in berlin was very much gointhir's uh showcase so that's why because they're doing in berlin he's german so they put it there and so yeah there was no roman raised No bloodline, nothing.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Okay. Mike Joyce, the owner of the White Sox is notoriously cheap, and they are on track to be the worst team ever this year. Who do you think the worst owner in sports is? Oh, man. John, I'll let you answer that one. Ooh, now that Dan Snyder is out, that's tough. I mean, because Dan's, I mean, I think Jerry Jones might be the worst owner in sports.
Starting point is 01:28:21 A guy who chased away a Super Bowl winning coach because of issues with ego and Joey and Jerry needing to get the stroke because he was jealous that Jimmy was getting the stroke. And I don't care that they've made up now. But like he has overpaid for the wrong players, underpaid for the wrong players, brought in terrible coaches top to bottom. And don't give me that Barry Switzer nonsense. He won with Jimmy Johnson's team.
Starting point is 01:28:46 And he's basically pissed away the name of the Dallas Cowboys for almost three decades. So to me, I think he's the worst owner because he had the biggest possibility for success in his situation and he has ruined it and cd lamb just took him to the cleaners because he shot his mouth off in an interview so you know it's just yeah i think he's the worst owner overall well there you go i've always thought you're going to say sam levin ha ha all right let's see so next one one ewalk excited to see the brutalist it just premiered at venice and it's being called a masterpiece with comparisons to the godfather and there will be blood which one's the brutalist john i don't know I actually haven't heard of that one. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Which one is that? The Brutalist. This is the Adrian Brody and Felicity. Oh, okay. Directed by Brady Corbett. Oh, interesting. Okay. All right. Well, there you go. So, well, we first heard it from you. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Now when we hear about it, let's see. Okay. Alex is Naraja. Let's get a new spin on Gandalf and cast Ian McShane. Sauron, that guy. Filarious. Wow. That'd be a scary, Gandalf, for sure.
Starting point is 01:30:02 That'd be something. Look, they've done it before. You put that ring in a mountain. You put that ring in a mountain. Darth Vader's burnt asshole. Ew. Gandalf is a key figure in the hunt for Gallum. In the lore, he and Agagorn catch him.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Arrigorn, sorry. Catch him. Which is what ties Gandalf to knowing Gallum told Sond where the Shire is. It's not just greatest hits. He's integral to the story. which makes that's what i was saying it makes sense that he would be involved at that point in time it's like i don't think your point is off though john where it's like you know he's still 85 so even though gandos a little older you still got to make sure that he looks like he can like he can do it they're gonna
Starting point is 01:30:41 do a lot of cheats to get him back but but yeah you got i'm not even i'm kidding and not kidding at the same time he got to shoot his scenes first yeah no honestly i mean you have to um but what he's saying that himself He's just like, or saying along the lines of like, like, they don't, I don't know how much longer I am doing this. I don't plan on quit acting, but like, let's go. You know, 85, time is time is money. I mean, look at, look at the Dame Judy Dent. She's, she's legally blind.
Starting point is 01:31:12 No. She really? Oh, wow. Yeah, she's gotten that old that she's legally blind. And so she has to, she can like see somewhat a little bit in front of her face, but she has a very hard time reading and all these kinds of things. And, you know, so, yeah, age catches up with everybody, y'all. It does. I know it does. Certainly does. But again, thank you for that.
Starting point is 01:31:30 And for Darth Vader's burnt a hole. That's also the, but that's a good point, though, you know, to know that there's so much more involved in it. And I do, I really hope that's another one, though. You mean, you and I are in different pages. With that. You, you, how, I'm not going to, I'm not going to break your shops on it, but I think you're lunatic. You think the Hobbit movies are better than the original Lord of the Rings. But that's one.
Starting point is 01:31:54 I just enjoy them more. That's a different, well, that's a different, that's a different argument. But what about what about what are, what about better made? Oh, well, I guess you'd have to argue that the scope of the Lord of the Rings movies are better made in terms of the look and the feeling. It looks more real to me. Like there's more, there's more like this way too many, even though there's a lot of CGI obviously in the original Lord of the Rings movies, it seems more practical. And even the stuff that he did with the orcs and everything else too. hope they go back to that and i hope that andy takes that style from the original ones and
Starting point is 01:32:29 stays away from the way that they shot the hobbit stuff and that's fair that's fair we'll see i'm just i just like the hobbits because the dwarfs are men i like men the the hobbits irritate me they're like kids it's fine i guess maybe i'm a pop so i don't mind them all right my choice knives out through my my little one though oh she was testing me yesterday john in the car oh she's testing me in the car oh you put her on a plane any time you want man we will take care you little one we like your little one here we'll take care of the little you'll w peacock all weekend mike joy knives out three the budget apparently is 210 million first one costs 40 million i just is only so much you can have the same conversation you know mike it's like it's like
Starting point is 01:33:10 oh i don't know what and that's and when you're you're ryan johnson's like hey i'll make another one for you give me 300 million dollars to do what i don't know we want 100 million dollars to go to hawaii oh okay deal tim sim Also, thank you, Tim, once again. Also, as we are at the end of the summer movie season, my takeaway is that we had a slow start with the fall guy's box office flop. We got better and made tons of money from July to August. Thoughts in the summer movie season. It definitely had a bounce back for sure.
Starting point is 01:33:40 If you jump back and you look at the movies, I mean, I don't have the list in front of me. It's a great comment. May was starting off rough, not only with Fall Guy, but you also had Furiosa, if was okay. but then Inside Out 2 started it all. Inside Out 2 was the one that really got it going. And so Inside Out 2, Deadpool, Wolverine, Alien Romulus, what was some of the other, Despicable Me did well? And there were other smaller ones that did well also.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Yeah, the Blake Lively one, right? Blake Lively one did well. $200-something million worldwide. That's incredible. Right. So there are tons. of movies that did very i i think that um overall all things considered it it bounced back pretty well i mean i i am not the number cruncher but i i would say when they look at it at the end they're
Starting point is 01:34:33 going to be pretty happy with i mean there's two movies that already hit billion dollars in in the in the summer and not alone they didn't have anyone since mario i think from before and barbie maybe and that was it considering the dearth of choices they've done well yeah the box up been well on the comeback yeah i think if i'm 2025 i'm excited because it right because 2025 has a lot more contenders than this year did and we're not even over with this year yeah yeah um oh summer though from what tim's talking with summer i think i think summer is even though i think summer will be massive next year i think this summer recovered for sure yeah uh mad sinister mccall underworld beck and sale better than pew and julia come on now um i'll you know what i'll say though
Starting point is 01:35:15 I'll give you Kate Beck and sell over Florence Pugh. Although I'll tell you though, John, I got a, there was a picture they had of the Thunderbolts. Yeah. That was released. And I'd be lying. I'd be lying if I didn't say that Florence Pugh looked like a damn smoke show in the elevator. I heard you backtrack. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:32 I didn't backtrack anything. I just said she looked hot. I didn't say she was higher than Julia. I just said she looked hot. That's all I said. That's all I said. The punicence. You feel in the punisance.
Starting point is 01:35:41 That's what I heard. Back in sale. I can't. I have always had a crush on that. Look, Rachel Weiss is my number one. Rachel Vise is my number one. That can't be touched. Rachel Wex. Back in sale is a
Starting point is 01:35:54 gorgeous, gorgeous woman. Yeah. Let's see. Sarah. Oh, are Matt, Sarah and you reacting to horror movies? That would be big for the views in October, Bone, Tomahawk. He loves Bowen Tomahawk. Did I tell you that?
Starting point is 01:36:07 Yeah, I know you told him. Oh, God, he loves. That's the one you should react to with him, especially for that one scene. God, he loves that movie. He loves that movie so much. And then acts and terrifier. Maybe. Maybe we'll say he's he's he's been asking me so many times to watch that damn that damn movie. Let's see as I'm going down the line here we are I think we might be coming to
Starting point is 01:36:27 coming to an end we have a we have a good amount today though so I think thank everybody for being part of it and I think we we our first kind of live show is the with the new branding it's gotten pretty good yeah yeah great Justin Fountain have fun with borderlands movie hurts me as a fan yeah that's what I heard there wasn't ever heard one very good Hank Pym, don't think you guys are big anime fans, but have you checked out the new Terminator anime, it's phenomenal. Production ideas behind in a great anime studio. I knew it was out, but no, you know, I haven't watched it yet. Maybe, you know, my daughter, the oldest is a big anime fan, so maybe that's something I can actually get her to watch with me.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Because she's getting me, she wanted me to watch the last night she was showing me this thing that she was created of the last avatar did. And the dragon prints or something like, do you know what that is? Okay. I don't know what this. Maybe people know what that is. That's a part of the Marshall question. Yeah, but so I'm sure somebody in the audience knows what it is, but the dragon prison she's like and she wanted me to, she wanted me to watch.
Starting point is 01:37:23 I watched the opening. I mean, it's very inspired by Lord of the Rings. I mean, the font alone is Lord of the Rings. But maybe I can get her to watch that with me. It's good. I'm glad you brought that up, Hank, because I was eight episodes. They're only half an hour. You ever seen him?
Starting point is 01:37:37 Yeah. No, no, I've saw them on Netflix. I'm going to watch some of them today and then try to do a review tomorrow. Okay. Skeleton Strange New Worlds I'm one fan. Hello guys, the podcast, the Adam Friedland show
Starting point is 01:37:48 called the new Star Wars shows Baby movies. Do you think aiming these shows to 15 year olds is a main reason older fans aren't tuning in? No, I'm going to quote what John said.
Starting point is 01:37:57 It's bad writing that is not having me will tune in. There are something, and or is not aimed. It's not a baby movie. And that person cannot be talking about and or, but there are certain things
Starting point is 01:38:08 that are written that if you make an argument that like, who are these written for? They were written for like 12 or 13 year olds? And I'd be like, yeah, it's hard to argue that. But like, I've mentioned this. Dave Filoni is not a good writer. He's a good storyteller.
Starting point is 01:38:22 He's just not a good writer. And Asoka's not the best writing. And Obi-Wan had nothing to do with him as far as that because he oversees all this stuff. But I didn't think Obi-1 was good writing. I didn't think, you know, the Ackleit was good writing. Whatever they're doing, whatever they're being advised. They're not being advised, like, to be aiming towards, again,
Starting point is 01:38:42 everybody. Yeah, well, this is a foolish narrative, right? I saw it over the weekend. Somebody put Disney Star Wars. It was some goofy girl with a face and then someone put up Sidney's original Star Wars. I'm like, you guys are idiots. There's absolutely no correlation between the two. Original Star Wars had so much childish kitty crap. Give me a break with trying to compare the two and complain and claim that the original and the sequel or the prequel trilogy were just these very serious, you know, strong. Give me a break, man. The racist. aliens, mid-chlorians is stupid. Darth Vader's, no, it's childish as hell. The Ewks is, that's Disney-made product right there. George Lucas himself said he made these things for the
Starting point is 01:39:24 kids. So to this idea, to this idea that you're going to be like, oh, Disney Star Wars is like childish, but the other Star Wars, that was real, real stuff. Everyone, Empire Strikes Back and a New Hope is pretty much it. I don't care how much people try to tell you the prequel trilogy is good now. That was not, those are not, I will stand on. that hill until in the last one there those films are still not good and there's a lot of childish stuff in those films for god's sake i mean the the the miracle childbirth of anakin aniken can build c3biel well come on sure but then that's and and i know you're not arguing towards that's why there was this many stupid written things in and the acolyte that were just no yeah it comes
Starting point is 01:40:03 down it comes down to writing it's just writing it's writing so it's not a matter of what yeah i think that the the direction of writing has been terrible um star wars from his inception is that childish things all across the board execution like anything else the two yeah exactly it's all execution philly g i can't wait for the watch long on christian's wife up and leaves 20 minutes into a movie to watch something else well that's she normally if you were if you if we set the cameras up at my house you would definitely catch that um but in the office she ain't going anywhere she got to watch like i almost you know what's funny as i was because you know transformers is coming out soon so i was going to watch i was going to make her watch um bumble me with me oh nice
Starting point is 01:40:40 So I was like, okay, you know, bumbleb, that's a good one. So let me show her the trailer. She's like, I was not paying attention within 30 seconds of this trailer. And I was, she couldn't, she couldn't care less about it. I was like, I'm not wasting this reaction on her. I'm not doing it. She's going to be bored out of her skull. But I think that that trap movie was, is perfect for her.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Yeah. Yeah, it's perfect. There's a gift that you and I have partners who are not desperate to be part of this sphere. I think there's a gift in that because, but it's also, there's a frustration in that because we both are like excited about things we want to share with our partners and they just go nah that's stupid no they want anything to do with it but but she actually but the thing she wanted to do this like I didn't even ask her it's like I don't respect I appreciate because when I was doing I'm bringing in some people and she's like well I want to do one I said I want to do one I said I want to do one I said I want to do one I said I want to do one I'm just like you do it's like I'm only going to start with one a week and then if yeah people should be perfect for her to do it we're watching movies together and I have some yeah people should she feels well she's only gonna do probably one a month but like um because i'm gonna do one reaction a week is i'm gonna do one reaction a week for now and if people start watching them and people like them like them like to start i'm gonna do one a week and then if they do well and people dig them then we'll do
Starting point is 01:41:54 then we'll do more um okay keeping it on julius wyatt hey john i'm curious what your expectations are for the commanders this season i like jaden but i thought may should have been i thought may should have been the pick. No, I don't like Drake, May. I don't like anybody coming out of North Carolina as a quarterback. I'll say this right now. To me, they're 500 team. I just, I'm sorry, I'll be happy if they had a 500. I'll be happy if they're 500. I don't expect too much. I like Jaden. I don't know about Dan Quinn as a head coach. So he blew it in Atlanta a couple times. So let's see what happens. But if we hit 500, I'll be happy. That's what I'll say. All right, Spitey Sense 72. Your channel doesn't typically review horror, but I really love if you
Starting point is 01:42:33 reviewed the New Speak, No Evil, and compared it to the original Danish version. I think they've ruined the U.S. remake. Well, I can tell you that I am going to see that on Monday next week. So I'm already going to see it. So I will be reviewing it on the channel. Yeah, but I haven't, I haven't seen, but I'm not going to lie to you. I'm probably not going to be seeing the Danish version. Not anything against the Danish version. It's probably phenomenal. I just don't have the time to do it. And I probably won't have the time to do it in time. So have you, are you going to see that one? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe. I don't know, dude. like the person was saying
Starting point is 01:43:05 the American remakes of these foreign films are always toothless. Like even Girl with the Dragon Attoo from Fincher, he took away what happens at the end of the original film where she's the one that kills the guy. And he lets, she lets him
Starting point is 01:43:21 die not with not by her. This whole idea of like having to always have our heroes be nice people by the end is what I love about European films. They don't do that. And they really make you question things and question. yourself and I love that so yeah I'm not excited to go see this remake but maybe I'll go to the screening we'll see all right next one our buddy screw face John thoughts on Hulk Hogan losing his
Starting point is 01:43:46 biopic personally I'm not mad at it at all so y'all by the way I'm always in here creeping and you know how to comment well we always appreciate you doing it and we always see you're every Monday we love when you're in here for sure um yeah I don't think it's not money watching me I felt somebody I don't think there's any surprise that his biopic was can to Todd Phillips said it's the first time we heard Todd Phillips talk about. He said it ain't happening. Hemsworth has always recently has been like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:12 And then, yeah, I think with everything that's kind of been going on with the Hulkster lately and as far as politically and stuff too, I think that they don't want to be around them as much. So, yeah. So, yeah. I mean, look, it's one of these things. Not with, look, this is why I never think anytime.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Biopics should have nothing to do with the people, they're making them about. Hulk Hogan should have nothing to do with it in general. It doesn't be involved at all. Madonna shouldn't be directing her biopic. 100%. It shouldn't because there's a whole reason why because they're going to go,
Starting point is 01:44:47 no, no, let's not put that part in. Yeah, but that's crucial. Do a Hulk Hogan biopic with everything. Do it all of it. Like now I'm very interested. I haven't heard them again. They're not canceling that Ben Affleck one. No, because that's more exploring the darker sides
Starting point is 01:45:03 of hoag. Right. So that's my point. That's my point. Yeah, yeah. So I'm not surprised either. And I have to say I officially stopped becoming a Hulkomania for the first time my life. Last week, I donated all my whole Kogan shirts to the goodwill. I just got rid of everything. Because that, it wasn't that he spoke. It wasn't that. It's how he followed up with some of the comments and some of things like I get political discourse is political discourse. When you start threatening physical violence and you start joking about that kind of stuff in this environment, and we just had an assassination attempt. Like, no, man, I ain't about that stuff.
Starting point is 01:45:35 And you're an idiot. And this isn't just people with different opinions. There's more on the line here. And so I'm not surprised they canceled the biopic. I'm not surprised about anything. And for me, I'm done with him forever. Like, it's just heartbreaking, but it's the truth for me, you know? So yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:51 So nonetheless, it doesn't look like it's going to happen. So Matt Sinish and McCullough, glad Harleft didn't move to Kingston. What a show. Thank you. Appreciate that. Bear of Kingston. That's right. Daniel Hernandez, biopic about Jared from Subway in Works, played by Drake. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Played by you. Man. Shee. I bet you screwface John really liked that one. I bet you he liked that one. Yeah. All right. Richard Humphrey, any chance either of you are going to review Terminator Zero.
Starting point is 01:46:21 That's the second person who's asked for you. I don't know. I mean, I haven't, I got a, it's just timing for me. but I don't know if I reviewing it maybe if I want I'll tell you what if my if my daughter decides to watch it with me and we wind up like getting through it pretty fast then I'll then I'll do something yeah yeah yeah yeah if I reviewed it'll be tomorrow that's what else okay so you watch it depends on how many you've watched right yeah I'm gonna knock it out of the park before tomorrow so hopefully be ready to review it tomorrow either with geek buddies or solo either
Starting point is 01:46:58 way okay all right let's see um people are saying that i i broke under pressure with florence pierre you can't no no no julie rosa buries her berries her please berries her all right here we go vicarum how excited are you guys with a vincent man documentary on netflix now that's going to be something you don't think i i'm concerned because janelle grant's is not a part of it okay and her representatives are not a part of it. So how much are they really going to explore these allegations? Plus, Netflix goes into business with Vince in January. And they're already, Endeavor is already a part of the situation over there at Netflix. And they're part of the, of course, they're the board there and charge of WWE. So I don't know how much they're really
Starting point is 01:47:42 going to show the allegations and highlight them and really explore them. And how much of they're going to touch on them as like at the end of the sentence. Do you know what I'm saying? And so it's not quite. So yes, I'm excited. So yes, I'm excited. excited, but only if they actually really show how much of a horrible person Vince McMahon is. Because remember, the same filmmakers made Tiger King. And by the end of Tiger King, with all the terrible crap he pulled, people liked Tiger King by the end. So if they make people like Vince at the end, with all the crap he's pulled, I'm going to be super pissed. I think that Tiger King, even though he did a lot of pretty horrible, horrible stuff.
Starting point is 01:48:18 I think if you compared the two horrible things, you'd probably go with the Tiger King of who you want to. Oh, well, of course, 100%. Yeah, totally. All right, let's see. Let's go to the next question. Tim Sim, back again. My apologies for angering, Euroka. I was just saying there's a vid that I was reminded of, and I think that everyone should go watch it in relation today's news. I'm already over the Acculad, and I understood the lessons to take away from it. Sigh. Poor Tim. Well, I'm passionate. I'm mad. There's a difference. You know that. Yeah, yeah. Thank you, Tim. Again, and the same can be safe for Tim,
Starting point is 01:48:52 because he was passionate about the brand in general. Skeleton Strange New Worlds, Skeleton Strange New World's number one, fan love Roak. That being said, the OG trilogy, Rogue One and or are mature in tone and writing. The Ewoks are debatable. I can argue this point in Super Chat, but the cost would find me divorced. But you're right, and that's my point.
Starting point is 01:49:14 Yes. Is that there's great stuff in the original trilogy, and if you want to add some of the scenes from Prequel Trilogy, fine. And there's great stuff during the Disney. run with the two seasons of the Mandalorian, with Clone Wars, which everybody seems to forget that final season, Star Wars Rebels, which I think is great, Rogue One and Or, so there are good, there is good stuff during this age of Disney and there's as much bad stuff on this age as there was
Starting point is 01:49:39 back then. Do you forget the holiday special? The EWalk movies? I mean, for God's sakes, there's so much to pick apart here on that side of the fence too. Right. Well, there you go. So I think those points are well made. Let's see. Do you know, I remember this. So Aaron says, sorry for keep pushing this show, Tass Masker on YouTube. I just think Christian would love this show. It just brings me a joy after a long day of work.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Have you seen it? Yeah, but you're not a British guy. You don't like British stuff. That's not necessary. That's not true. Don't judge me. I didn't tell you that I'm a full, that I'm, you know, I'm the number one fan.
Starting point is 01:50:12 But I enjoy British humor. British humor makes me laugh. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. So watch the show then. No. Let me know. No.
Starting point is 01:50:21 I just have no time. Julius Wyatt, when do you think Spider-Wverse 3 comes out? Love you guys. Thank you, Julius. When do you think it comes out, John? I would tell you probably, I mean, late 2025, early 2026? Yeah, that sounds about right. With all the stuff that's going down now, and it looks like Lord Miller are pulling out of the whole Sony situation.
Starting point is 01:50:42 So I think it's going to be. Lord Miller's leaving too. They're leaving too? Yeah. It looks like they're going to, Sony's not going to renew their contract. Lord Miller seem to have issues with Sony. That's smart. That's smart on Sony's point.
Starting point is 01:50:54 They're fighting over the Spider-Man Noir budget, apparently. That's what the reports are, which seems odd. Sony is, Sony really has no clue what they're doing. No, no clue. How do you give up jobs? It's unbelievable. What do you do it? You give them money to the amount of people you get money to,
Starting point is 01:51:10 but the people who actually are making you money, you don't give money to? Okay, that's good. Logic. That makes sense. Ewalk, apparently Josh Prolin is Hal Jordan and Lanterns. No, well, we talked about that a little earlier. I don't know if you came in later, EWalk. um but we yeah we talked about that was one of our top stories i think a second story that we
Starting point is 01:51:26 talked about yeah um okay unheard sirens incorporated no shades of the other ladies but selma hyac hyac is peaked for me i don't care what anyone says selma hyac in the inner prime is a hard one to argue against hard to argue against she's she's she was i mean in desperado i mean come on she's not in desperado and in dust have been a solomon for sure yeah i haven't always been a solver person i think she i mean yeah i don't think she touches again not My goat or your goat. So, yeah. Okay, let's see.
Starting point is 01:51:56 Anthony M.72. What's the future of Moon Night in the MCU? I am one of the few people who liked Moon Night, and I still don't necessarily think it needs a season two. Is it going to appear, though? Probably in Secret Wars. I think it's probably a good idea. I mean, you should bring everybody involved.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Shang Chi should come back and all this. They should all come back. Where is the sequel to Shang Chi? That is a great. great movie. I mean, come on. He's the part of it. He's not. I mean, what's the deal? And why is Aquafina the sidekick to everyone? Every movie. True. Need a sidekick? Get Aquafina. She just did a lottery movie. She's great. We need a sidekick. Well, she's busy. Well, we need an animated sidekick. Sign her up.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Let's say. Hank Pim, if we're talking peak woman, it's Ria Ripley. Easy. Rear Ripley is. What? is definitely got our own, there's something about Ria Ripley where she's just energy. Like she is, she is a star. I mean,
Starting point is 01:53:01 Ria Ripley is a star. I really, I mean, it's, yeah, and she, and from everything you hear about her, too,
Starting point is 01:53:07 she's just like a wonderful person and the stuff she does with her fans. So, like, I'm glad that someone like Ria Ripley exists. I really am. I agree. 100% agree.
Starting point is 01:53:14 And I think, because she's good in the ring and outside the ring. Yes. And on the mic and on the vignettes. And like you said, great when, with the kids.
Starting point is 01:53:23 And listen, she's at airports, sometimes to her detriment, signing all this stuff for people, and she gets overwhelmed. So, yeah, I mean, like, she is given so much to the business. And she's great all around. And so I can't wait until they put the title back on her where it belongs. Mr. I crap and shits. Hey, happy Labor Day, guys. Are there any YouTubers that make you how to reach to the screen and choke? For me, it's den of nerds.
Starting point is 01:53:49 I like Josh. Oh, my Josh. She's always been good to me. He stokes the division in Star Wars fandom And this time he named Roka As a reason this time Oh, I didn't see that I don't I don't get into the drama of it all too
Starting point is 01:54:00 So I don't really I don't When it comes to YouTubers, no I don't as I've gotten into my later years I don't do that And I see people doing videos or tagging me or something to They've ever been muted or I don't get into it If that's what if that's what get people excited to do If they want to have videos against somebody
Starting point is 01:54:17 And they do those things then that's on them I just I don't do that I don't get into that I don't care about it. Like I said, Josh has always been good to me. It's nice to me. So I don't know what he said about John. I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:54:27 Wow. Yeah. Well, from last I checked, Josh and I follow each other on Twitter. And I or whatever it's called this week, if he wanted to tag me, I've asked to be on his show. So if Small Balls couldn't call me to be on his show to go back and forth about Star Wars, that's small balls problem. So, you know, I don't, I don't have an issue with it. If you want to tag me, I'm happy to come on your show. Come on, let's have a debate, unless you don't want to debate.
Starting point is 01:54:55 Then that's cowardly, and that's a separate conversation. But I have a DM right now. I can copy and show people where I've asked to go on his show. So let's not do dramas. I've never had any issues with Josh. So I'm surprised that he would say anything without at least talking to me first about it. Well, John, you have a YouTube channel. What's going on on your channel?
Starting point is 01:55:13 Yeah, you can head on over to YouTube.com slash John Roker says, look, I don't trade in the drama on my channel. I don't have time to watch other people's content, clip it out and put together a whole diet trap. I got no time for that. I got a million things I'm doing multiple revenue streams. But if you want to have some fun content, head on over to YouTube.com slash John Roka says. We got the geek buddies, we got the hot mic, we got the Jedi Way. We've got spill the tequila.
Starting point is 01:55:36 We got my stuff going on with reviews and reactions and all of that stuff happening. And every once in all, I can convince Christian to come on the channel. It's always fun. So, yeah, that's going on there. Plus, our wrestling is back every Saturday. doing the ring general stuff with Aaron Turner and Chris Burns. So come and hang out with us there. And I'm sorry I don't trade in the drama.
Starting point is 01:55:55 I wish I could. Thank you, John, for joining us here today. Thank you, you guys for being here today. And we did it. We did our first official show as the Christian Harlov show. And we will be doing this show daily. Not yet, though. I got to get everybody on the,
Starting point is 01:56:11 I got to find everybody scheduled. Like I said, I think Roxy and Brett will be on Tuesdays. Not tomorrow. I got to give Roxy and Brett. some time to get ready, get their schedules ready before we can launch. I'll have an official date when we're going five days a week. For now, it'll definitely be me and John on Mondays. Wednesday is going to be Steph and Mike. I'm pretty sure I'm going to get Mike on on Wednesdays. Thursday I'm looking, there's going to be a new crew. I don't know who yet. And then Friday
Starting point is 01:56:40 will be capes and cows. So yeah, we got a lot. And then obviously I'm going to be doing the movie reactions. I got some. stuff coming out. We're shooting the first one tomorrow with myself and Matt Sarah. Hopefully get that on the channel this week. I look to air those on Thursdays. This show will always be on by the way. The Christian Harlowff show will always be on on 10 a.m. P.S.T. And one p.m. E.st. for everybody. That's what it's going to start to be daily. And then I'm going to be doing, I'm going to do like two or three clipouts of this show,
Starting point is 01:57:14 I think, a day. But I'm also going to have my out of the theater. reactions my movie reviews I'll also do the you know like I said the reactions the movie reactions are probably gonna be on Thursday Thursday morning I assume maybe maybe Thursday after I don't know yet I gotta figure it out maybe if it's if it's Thursday it'll probably maybe like Thursday at like 9 a.m. EST to give you know people a whole lead up to get into this show so we got a lot going here a lot we're that we're working on. So thanks for joining us here today. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed the show if you want to help us out. And again, let's see, that's it. So thank you for being here. I
Starting point is 01:58:00 appreciate you. And you guys are the best. Peace out. What the hell is that? Oh, come on. We were having a good, we were having a good time here until Turtle Ousk showed up. Thanks for being here, guys, and that's it. So I think I got it this time. You guys rule. See you. the brands that the pros preferring to preface that you conviening. Ahorrable in madera compuces in stock, Trex Naturales, and
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