The Kristian Harloff Show - Amber Midthunder In Studio Interview!
Episode Date: June 21, 2023Join the website: http://www.thekristianharloff.com Amber Midthunder in the house! Before the interview, we talk Marvel NOT going to San Diego Comic Con and how that will impact SDCC. We also dive int...o various topics, ranging from the John Wick 4 director's cut to the growing A.I movement and everything in between. And then also has an engaging interview with Prey star Amber Midthunder, where they discuss her role in the film. Amber talks about her experience working on the film, not seeing any of the Predator films before she got the movie and more. Enjoy the episode! #ambermidthunder #predator #marvel #MCU #johnwick #hulk RUMPL: http://www.rumpl.com/thebigthing ATHLETIC GREENS: http://www.drinkag1.com/bigthing GREEN CHEF: http://www.greenchef.com/thing60 OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg
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Happy Wednesday, everybody.
This is going to be an exciting episode.
I'll tell you that.
I'm going to cover a couple of stories here and there,
but for the most part,
this is really going to be all about Amber Midthunder from Prey.
I had a chance to sit down and talk with her for a little bit,
and she's going to be a major superstar.
She already is turning heads,
and people are talking about her performance in Prey and rightfully so.
There's rumors of this Emmy Buzz.
should say there's Emmy Buzz, and there should be.
I wanted to chat with her about the process alone,
about going into something like that,
working with the director,
kind of getting into the process of it,
realizing the gravity of a predator movie,
all that more I talked to Amber about.
But I will cover a couple other stories.
There's a big, massive story about Marvel.
They're not going to Comic-Con.
That's usually where they own.
They usually are the kings of Comic-Con,
Marvel with their panel.
I shouldn't say they're not going to Comic-Con.
They're not doing a Hall H panel.
They are doing something at Comic-Con,
but they're not going to do Hall H,
which is usually where they do a big announcement.
The pending Sag Strike and a few other things are causing that.
John Wick is going to be a director's cut.
Talk about that briefly.
And Angleys Hulk turns 20 years old.
How about that?
That and more.
On the show, I am getting ready to go to New York.
I'm going to be in New York really, really soon.
so hopefully you guys will be there.
We're going to be there this Friday.
If you can't be there with us,
you can get it at the live stream,
and that's the Christianharlov.com.
Please make sure you head on over there.
I would appreciate that,
and I hope to see you there.
The other thing we're really pumped about
is this one.
Katie Sackoff,
where I'm producing this show,
blah, blah, blah, with Katie Sackoff,
and she just announced
the first episode
is going to drop on her YouTube channel
on the 28th, as well as a live show at San Diego Comic-Con, July 22nd, on the strip there,
Gas Lemp District, and it'll be at the American Comedy Company July 22nd from 4 to 6 p.m.
You can, the same thing, you can go to blah, blah, blah, katie.com, and you can either get live tickets
or you can get live stream tickets, and there's a really cool thing she's going to be doing at the end of the night.
if you're part of the live stream,
you'll actually, she's going to take the phone with her,
and you can travel with her from San Diego all the way back to L.A.,
and she'll do Q&As and all that stuff, too.
So head on over there.
It's going to be a lot of fun,
and you'll be supporting myself as well,
because I'm producing that show,
and I'm very excited.
You got to see the guests on that show.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
Okay, let's get into it.
Let's talk about it.
Cool, perfect.
Great.
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All right, let's start with this.
Let's start with the first thing is this Comic-Con story.
Marvel, skipping Comic-Con Hall H this year, 2023.
From Dark Horizons, following a major splash at Comic-Con, Marvel Studios will reportedly skip its Hall-Age presentation this year, according to the rap.
You're still going to have a presence on the convention floor.
Marvel often uses the panel to offer first looks at upcoming movies and shows.
But the studio currently has multiple productions on pause due to the right.
writer's strike with Blade, Thunderbolt, Stair Devil, and Wonder Man, all paused.
Then there's a potentially looming actor's strike.
If SAG is unable to reach a deal before the end of Friday next week, on a new labor contract,
it could order a strike as early as the first weekend of July.
If it goes forward, actors would not be able to do any promotional work for their films
and TV shows as part of the labor stoppage, impacting the rollouts of films like the new Mission
Impossible and Barbie along with Comic-Con, which are all about promoting upcoming works.
Marvel is not the only one skipping.
Universal and HBO also considering sitting it out.
Wow.
So this is massive.
This is massive news.
Because you kind of thought it.
And I think if you guys watch, I don't know, if you watch one episode of big thing, if you watch all four.
But on Fridays on capes and cows, we talk a lot about Comic-Con stuff.
And I even think we talked about the Soroxia on the Thursday show.
This is a thing that we kind of saw coming.
that if there was this strike,
if it was going to happen,
if all these potential
the lays and things were happening,
studios were going to pull out of it.
Now, there's still going to be a present.
Someone said,
what do you think they canceled Comic-Con?
I said, no, they won't cancel Comic-Con
because, as they said,
they have display stuff,
they have comic book people there,
selling merchandise and toys
and all that type of stuff.
In comics, you know,
and such as it was.
They will still be parties.
I don't know how many actors will be there doing that,
but I wonder what are the rules
for people that are out there doing stuff like that?
What are the rules about people doing podcasts in general?
You know, just in general.
So that's a curious thing too.
Like the guests that come on to shows
or you look at somebody like Michael Rosenbaum.
Like, if he has guests on,
can they talk about anything movie related?
And I really what's like,
what are the rules?
I'm not going to really knows it yet.
So that's an interesting thing to find out.
But as far as Marvel goes,
it's a big, it's a big,
It's a big, big move because they are usually the ones who have the most buzz.
So I think it's smart for DC at the moment in Warner Brothers to not say anything just yet about not going.
Because if somehow the SAG strike does not happen, which I still don't know for some of that I don't feel like it's going to.
but if it doesn't happen,
Warner Brothers could now own it.
Could be the ones that are the talk of the town
because who else,
because there's no Marvel versus DC showdown anymore,
it's just going to be D.C.
And they'll be the ones who are kicking ass.
Or nobody goes.
Interesting.
I don't know, what do you guys think about it?
You think that this is a sign
that more studios are going to drop out.
There's not going to be any presentations whatsoever.
It's going to be just a, you know, people hanging out in San Diego type thing.
No big, no big massive Hall-Aid events.
I mean, somebody will be in Hall-Age, but it won't be like it normally is.
So I'm very curious to hear what you guys think.
Make sure you comment.
Let me know.
All right, let's get to the next one.
I want to talk about this.
Ang Lee's Hulk, 20 years old.
Again, Dark Horizons.
Today marks the 20th anniversary of Angley's Hulk, this was yesterday, I guess, a movie widely dismissed as the time with mixed reviews, praised by critics for its ambition and style, but criticized for its lack of action and visual effects.
Hulk came just a year after Spider-Man, Sam Ramey's Spider-Man, and has swung into cinemas to great success, just a month after Brian Singer's X-Men 2, which also drew rave reviews.
The audience was ready for Hulk all around the same lines, but they got something much more experimental, a dark and often introspective psycho-thes.
thriller of repressed trauma, bad dads, and dangerous genetics.
A story matched up Freudian tropes, Greek tragedy, and a dash of PG-13,
coronerwork body horror.
I think this guy likes the movie a little bit more than I do.
So anyway, it's a, I guess some people have liked it over the years.
This guy certainly does.
Who's this, this is Garth Franken?
Garth Franklin loves it.
But I'm not a big fan of them.
We're trying to watch it again, too.
There's one pretty great.
I mean, it's, there's parts of it that are okay.
But the problem is that the stuff that they do with the,
the big action and everything else too.
The stuff with the dogs was fun and the stuff with the tank was,
it's okay.
I actually don't think the story was very good.
I'd probably have to revisit it again.
I saw it five, six years ago.
But Ang Lee, I mean, a really good filmmaker.
Doing Hulk was an interesting choice at that point, right?
So I remember people being hyped about it.
I certainly was hyped about it.
But I was bummed about it when I saw it as well, too.
I think it's like fairly dull if I remember.
Correctly.
I did.
I did see it.
When the hell did I watch it?
I felt like I watched it five years ago.
Maybe I'm wrong.
You're making that up.
But I can remember, maybe I just saw clips on YouTube.
Maybe I do have to go check that movie out again.
I don't know.
But I just remember not liking it.
I like The Incredible Hulk a lot more than most people.
I think it's a really good movie.
It's really, I like watching it.
I like rewatching it.
I saw it a couple times in the theater.
I like the music.
I do think it's an underrated movie.
But not everybody agrees to me there.
All right.
Next one. This was an interesting article that came out. Chris McCquiry and Christopher Nolan both talked about the dangers of AI. AI you start seeing it everywhere now, right? So the Mission Impossible films have dealt with various threats over the years and the upcoming Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1 is going to deal with one that's very current, that's artificial intelligence. The rise of the likes of Mid Journey and Chat GPT in the past year has raised obvious questions about humanity's future with technology. However, the new two-part mission was conceived five years ago, making this a very
weary timeline on the part of writer-director Christopher McCre and star producer Tom Cruise.
Speaking with Collider this week, McCrory said they were having the earliest conversations
about the film's threat back in 2018.
When is that all, that's when the AI idea came up?
McCrary says, we've done nuclear threats, we've done chemical threats, biological threats,
you did the rabbits fool and God knows what the threat was.
In trying to keep it fresh, we were looking for outward.
And the big conversation I had with Tom Cruise very early on was technology, information
technology and what now everyone is talking about is AI. He adds that the likens the new films to
the Cold War films in which the threat of the nuclear annihilation was very real, a very present thing,
and you didn't need to set up a threat as you felt it. Here, though, it's the threat of this new kind
of tech. I felt in the zeitgeist this anxiety about technology and what and how technology
was beginning to influence our lives and how do we take that anxiety that the audience is bringing
into the movie and give them a release. That's what the movie boils down to. He also says that the
upcoming second part will go even further and wilder with AI fears.
So, I mean, it keeps going.
A lot of people have been doing this, by the way.
And there was something I just saw, what was it recently?
No, it's crazy.
There's some stuff.
What was this?
Recently, I just saw some AI thing.
Everybody's kind of going after the AI movies.
Oh, it was that the new Garrett Edwards movie is AI also.
So, yeah, there's a lot of people doing that.
And I feel like we're in the kind of the early stages of,
of SkyNet Man, Matrix.
Like, you know, two, 300 years from now.
We told you.
I mean, they've made movies about it in the 1980s,
and you guys, you didn't pay attention.
You still developed a program.
He said, now, I'll be all right.
Because I remember being a kid,
and I think I was like, I don't know,
fourth or fifth grade or something.
And I remember the story.
I can remember what the short story was called,
but it was like a short story,
and it was a futuristic story,
and they were talking about how the family
wouldn't go to the grocery store
because all they had to do was go to this screen, push buttons,
and then someone would deliver,
and within seconds someone would deliver the groceries to your house.
And I was like, oh, my God, you imagine that ever happened?
It's Amazon.
And that was like, what, 20, 30, 30 years ago, whatever it was.
And I remember just thinking, yeah, that was so crazy back then.
And I remember, it was like, yeah, my God, can you imagine?
Is that, like, ever really happened?
and like these things that continue,
there will be self-driving cars.
Obviously there are now, but they're just not,
they're going to perfect them, is what I mean.
There's all these things that are going to keep developing,
and eventually AI will probably drive the damn cars.
And then the question is that the AI is in a mood and goes,
I'm going to drive this asshole over over a cliff.
I'll be all right.
So it's scary.
It is.
And that's what, it's like we've predicted our future.
I feel it.
And you're not, it's just science.
fiction. I don't know, man. People have been scared about this shit for a while. I mean,
it's fascinating, fascinating technology. There's not that about it. I would be lying to if I
tell you, I didn't try a couple of the art pictures or the, you know, the, what else?
There's a program that I use sometimes and it says like, to a little description for AI.
And I say, write, write this and see what they say. It comes up with something.
interesting. So yeah, we're all doomed. It's the truth. I'm sorry I'd tell you. All right,
let's move on. All right. One more story before we move to the Amber Midthunder interview,
John Wick 4, director's cut. So the director, Chad Steleski says that he's confirmed. He's
almost finished director's cut, and it's close. It makes the movie almost three hours. And it made
almost $432 million worldwide. The title came to digital the other week, and now Diss.
and speaking with comic book movie to promote the disc release,
he was asked about the reports that it was originally a longer film.
And he said, I've been working on director's cut,
the extended cut, which we've almost finished.
There's another like 10 or 15 minutes that we put back in there.
We cut a big chunk out of Berlin,
a whole character called The Frow,
which is a pretty funny scene with John
and another scene between him and Tracker
and a few other scenes that we put back in.
There's stuff that we take out because it doesn't fit the pacing,
and I think the stuff is super quality.
and I love the choreo, I love the characters.
It just, as a whole, it changed the pace of the film.
I didn't think I could get, you know,
two hour and 30-minute film in there, and it felt slow.
I think we got away with it because it felt driven.
I felt like it was purposeful,
and I didn't want to upset that pace, and it has to go, it has to go.
Look, if you're able to do it,
and that movie's very successful overall,
if you're able to put together a director's version of it,
and it doesn't cost the studio that much more,
and already made the amount of money that it did,
and they can make some more money to try to see if people want to see the extra footage.
Take the shot on it.
The movie's made almost half a billion dollars, so off of like a $100 million budget.
So this, I understand what they're doing.
Plus is the fourth movie, and this guy has delivered a very successful franchise,
and he's like, I want to do a director's cut.
Sure, go ahead, do a director's cut.
You got to cut some stuff out, 15, 20 minutes, most three-hour movie, make an epic movie.
Sure.
They want to milk that franchise for whatever they can.
Plus, you know, they still want them to do.
a fifth one. They're going to do spin-offs and all that. So it makes sense. What do you guys think?
Do you give a shit about a director's cut or do you, you're generally curious about it?
I want to hear what you think. Go ahead. Put it in there. All right. So let's get to it, man.
This is the interview with Amber Midthunder. I had the pleasure of talking to her and having
just kind of a breakdown about the whole film that she, about, about.
up prey and how she got the role and and what's great and I said this to her in the interview and you'll
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she walked in, she was looking at some of the stuff on the, on the, on the shelves, and she was having a,
and we were just having a conversation beforehand. And she was, and we were just having a
genuine conversation, but we started talking about prey. So much,
So she was just very open about it and just talking about it.
And I was like, I hate to do this, but let's stop for a second because I want to talk to you about this on air because this is awesome.
And she started laughing and she was, she's great.
She was great.
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Ladies and gentlemen, if you remember last year, you know how much on this show I've talked about PrEP.
And it's one of my favorite movies of all time.
And then they announced it was coming out.
I said, all right, let me see.
And then I told you, they did it.
They went back to basics.
They went.
Then they had the predator versus a kick-ass person that the predator should not have messed with.
And that kick-ass person is here today, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm excited because this is a movie.
This is a movie that people should be paying attention to.
This is a movie that if you have not seen it, please see it because of my guest today.
Amber Middunder is there.
Hello, how are you?
It is I.
It is nice to have you here.
Thank you for having you.
Yeah, of course, we were talking about it before we went on air,
and I told you that what I loved so much about this movie was the,
this is the fact that it was, I mean, simple in the idea that you don't need to go with this big grand scale
that a lot of movies, I think, as the franchises keep going on,
they rely on CGI.
They rely on these big, we need a big action piece there as opposed to the chase
and this kind of like almost horror bill to it.
So is that one of the main reasons that you kind of got?
involved in it, like when you were auditioning for it. How much, like, tell me the story about how
you kind of got involved. No. No. Not at all. Nope. Okay. I wish I could say yes. Yeah. Um, no, I, you know,
I did not know that this is a predator movie and I had not even seen the predator movies at the time
that I was auditioning for it. And, you know, obviously didn't watch them because I didn't even know
that I should be watching them. Um, so no, it was really just, I mean, I think that there were like
two really big factors in it for me, which is that, um, um,
You know, Dan is so great.
Yeah.
And I knew, you know, that it was like a 20th century movie.
And I knew that it was about like period piece, um, indigenous people and, you know,
Comanche girl.
And I was like, that's so weird because studios never want to touch this stuff or tell,
you know, focus on these people.
So it was suspicious.
Um, and I knew that Dan was there.
And Dan is just like so great, you know?
And, um, I love 10 Cloverfield Lane.
and, you know, he did Black Mirror and just all the stuff, and he's so cool.
And so that was kind of really everything that I knew for like a year.
Yeah.
Had you met Dan before that or it's just as you're auditioning, you kind of met him.
Yeah.
We met over Skype before Zoom was cool.
Pre-pandemic, I had auditioned for this.
It was like, you know, it had come under like a code name and I had like two scenes that I didn't even know, like, what, you know, they were in the movie, kind of.
and we had like a Skype audition and it just kind of like I think there's just something that happens when it's like you put on like you know a skin and it just kind of like it just feels good and it just fits well yeah and even though I didn't have any information it just that kept happening where it was like oh this just feels good um and then it was the same thing when I met Dan I was like oh okay this even over Skype I was like oh there's something here um that's really working and that's really flowing and that's really flowing and that's really flowing and
and then, you know, the pandemic happened
and it went away and I didn't remember it.
And my manager called me and he was like,
hey, that movie is back.
And I was like, what?
And he was like, you know, that one, the movie, the did it.
And he was explaining it to me and I was like,
I'm so sorry, I don't.
Did you really know what you're talking about?
I had no idea what he was saying.
Wow, because it was so long ago.
Yeah, it was so long.
And I just, you know, I worked on other things.
And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
And he was like, you know, Dan Tractenberg, this one.
You Skype to do it.
And I was like, oh, okay.
Oh, it's bad.
Oh, and he was like, by the way, you're testing for it next week.
Wow.
And I was like, oh, my God.
And then so, yeah, and that was, I think it was like two days after that.
That he was like, also, this is a predator movie.
And so it was a very, like, compact.
It was a lot of information really, really quickly.
Yeah.
Well, go back to that, though.
So you find out it's a predator movie and you said you hadn't seen them before.
So do you do the research, like, right away, or do you wait?
Do you do the movie and then watch the predator movies?
How does that work?
No.
If I remember, I immediately watched them.
because, you know, I felt like, I mean, I don't even know how much Dan and I talked about it in the audition process because it was so quick.
I mean, once we were going, obviously, there was a lot of conversation about, like, I had seen all the movies and we talked about kind of like where this movie fit, like, tonally and taking the, I think, DNA of what was great about the other movies and then infusing that into what we were doing, but then also being intentional about, you know, creating something that is.
different. I mean, obviously, like, even the title is a standalone title. It's not like
Predator 5 or something like that. So I think that that was also a big part of, you know, what we were
kind of like shaping and creating in the process of, you know, telling the story and making this
movie. Yeah, it's the most like the first movie, too, by the way. Like is, and what I really loved
about the first one is why I love this one as well, too, because it's just, it is, it's, it's, it's,
and it's, it's the message of kind of self-preference. What you, what you can do, what you, what you, what the human
spirit is really capable of, you know, and because you see what she has to go through. And especially
at that time where she's not, she's not, you're not supposed to be the warrior. And then the fact that
she is the warrior, the one who's able to do this. So is that, I'm assuming that's one of the
most attractive things about this role. I think so. I mean, I also hadn't, I should mention,
I also had not read the script at the time that I had auditioned. No, I read the script after. So it went like,
I had my initial audition, didn't know anything, and then the pandemic happened.
And then I came back, they were like, you're going to test for it.
By the way, this is a predator in a movie.
Oh, by the way, here's the script.
What was the audition then?
It was the scene.
I mean, they're very different now than what they were at the time.
But the bones of them are pretty much the same.
It was the scene of me and my mom in the TP, who was played by Michelle Thrash, who I love.
Shout out Michelle.
And then the scene of Nadi Win Tabe,
by the fire after he comes back from the with the lion.
Mm-hmm.
So it was those two scenes.
Okay.
And we did them in English originally.
And then at the task, we did them in English and Comanchee because he wasn't sure what
language the movie was going to be in.
Okay.
Because he wanted to do it originally in all Comanchee.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which would have been, you know, very cool.
And that's why we have the Comanchee dove.
So, no, I really didn't know anything about it.
I just knew what I had on the piece of paper.
Okay.
I watched that.
That's how I watched it, by the way, so I thought it was.
Oh, cool.
And it was, yeah, I just, the authentic feeling just, it is.
It's just, it was so, it was so raw.
It was just so raw.
And like, so tell me about, though, after the movie comes out, at the time, does Disney,
had Disney bought Fox when before the, before you got this role?
Do you know?
Yes.
Okay, they had.
So, so, because then it comes out on Hulu and it's, and obviously, I think a lot of eyes
were on it because it was such a big release for Hulu.
And I remember everyone kind of, because, you know,
As you said, it's called prey, but then the predator aspects.
It's a new predator movie and people start.
Of course, it's a predator movie.
Yeah, right.
And the social media starts blowing about what's the new predator movie?
Is this another one?
Are they trying to just, you know, milk it?
And it's like, no, they're not.
This is a predator movie.
What's the reaction like afters?
And there's always the nerves of how people are going to take this movie.
What's that like the premiere, you know, as far as when they put it out there and, like,
are you nervous?
Do you not pay attention to that stuff?
I think I don't really.
I mean, it's weird.
because there was not like, you know, we had the, we had a big premiere, but it wasn't like the theatrical
release we didn't get. And so it was kind of weird to just kind of like release, you know, like to just put like a,
like putting like a small turtle in a pond. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like, you're like, I don't know what's
going to happen to this. Um, is how that felt. Like, you know, on the release day, I was like,
Dan, what are we going to, like, we have to do something. Like, what are we going to do? Because we can't just like
let this go into the, so we went to Disneyland. Oh, cool. As a big. And, you know,
group. Yeah. And yeah, it was really
scary. Like it was, I think,
I mean, it was funny to me originally, like, how angry
people were, I think, at our movie.
Even when it came out? No, no. Like, before that.
Yeah, like, we, we, Dan and I
talked about that a lot, especially, like, while we were shooting.
It was like, just how people
felt about the concept and
the idea of making another one. And what is it? The idea that, oh,
a woman can't fight the predator. Yeah, it's a lot.
I think that there was a lot of layers. I feel like there are people
who were upset at, like, oh, another predator
movie what is this going to be and then you know when the concept was announced i think people
didn't like that of like oh there was a lot of people who were like this is just like you're trying
to shove something woke down on the road and this is obviously not the case um and so you know very
satisfying yeah yeah i mean it was like i kind of try not to pay attention i was mostly honestly
there were two things to be nervous about i think when you're like putting out a movie like this
which is one that like there are people who are loyal to the franchise
And you care about what those people think.
And I've done a few, you know, things that come from like a greater universe.
And I learned really quickly.
I was on a series called Legion.
That was a Marvel show.
And I remember we went to New York Comic-Con again before the show had even come out.
And it was there that I realized like, oh, fans are very serious about what they love.
Which, of course.
I mean, you're like, you know, keeping care of something that they care for and you don't want to mess it up for them.
And they don't want you to mess it up.
So there's those people.
And then really to me, what I was the most nervous about was representing, you know, Comanche people and native people and Native women well.
And that was a really big deal to me because I just felt like there's not a lot of that out there.
And this is the first, like, indigenous female action hero ever, which is a huge deal.
And a very scary thing to, I mean, it's exciting.
But I think carrying that responsibility also really scared me.
so I just wanted that to be everything.
I wanted to be able to step into that as fully and completely
and do it the justice that it deserves.
Yeah, and of course, when you're coming into a role like that,
and you feel like there's like some big shoes to fill overall, right?
What you have to do there.
And I think from what you're saying,
it makes sense from the time period,
what she has to do and she's setting the stage
to ultimately getting to where we do in the 1987 version
and all that because the predator has been here before
and this isn't the first time.
And even though Arnold's got to deal with it later on,
Yeah.
You know, it's been here.
That's right.
You did it first.
So the movie comes out.
It gets a great response.
People are buzzing about it.
And what happens to this?
This is an audition that you had that you didn't know what it was.
Find that it's a predator movie.
And then your life kind of changes, right?
Does it?
Does it?
I think, I can't tell.
I don't know.
Yeah.
you know, we were shooting for like six months and then it takes like a year for the movie to come out.
And so I think that the changes have been gradual, which I'm grateful for.
And I think anything that has kind of changed is very like external.
You know, it's like my life is still the same.
Like my parents are still my parents.
Of course.
And that's really, I think, kind of what I have a very interesting relationship.
I think with like the way that my mindset views like what is like kind of out there versus like what is in here.
Um, like, there's a part of me that is always, I think, kind of surprised when people see something that we make point, like period, even though that is the point of it.
Like, because, you know, the process of making the movie was just so, uh, it was so intense.
Yeah.
And so long that, you know, there's like a little tiny part of my brain that when people are like, oh, the mud pit, I'm like, you weren't there.
Right.
Um, because the experience is just.
so big in my mind that that's what lives overall.
And you're locked into the role.
Yeah.
You're not thinking about that at the time, you know, but I mean, yeah, it's been really
cool, I think, to have this go out there and then see kind of like, you know, the ways
that that's changed things for me.
I want to jump back to something you said, though, but you're talking about, like,
you're still you, you're still you, you're still you, your mom, still your mom.
Yeah.
But when you walked in, I automatically could feel like, you seem very grounded.
You know, you seem like it's not because a lot of people can get caught up in the success of
People can be like, yeah, I was in that movie.
I kicked that predator's ass.
And you don't seem like that to me.
And does that come also?
No, I'm actually a huge jerk.
You seem real, you're just putting it on.
He's a really good actor.
She's going to come out here and start ordering people around.
But no, but what I meant is though, you know, is that something that comes from family background?
Because I had on, I talked to Sholo Medveduany, who, from Kopekye and a blue beetle.
And I've been talking to him since he was 17 years old.
And he said the same thing.
Like his mom was really, his family was what keeps him.
him level. Is that, is that the same? Yeah, for sure. I think that like my family and yeah,
I think I'm just really fortunate. That does start with my family. I think I'm really fortunate to just
have like normal people around me who are just very like, you know, both my parents work in the
film industry and it was never a presence in my household. Like it just was not, you know, like we
watched movies because we love movies, but it wasn't like. But didn't bleed into your life.
Yeah. Like I just didn't even, I had to find my way to acting on my own. That's great. Um, you know,
And then I was like, what, you guys are right?
How did you not?
And they were just like, I don't know.
You want to do it.
You do it.
And so, you know, they're supportive, but they never like connected what they did to what I did.
And also like, I think culture, you know, like being grounded into like I was raised with like, you know, all of my cultures in my household.
And, you know, having that, I think is really like when you look at like the values of what those things are about and keeping that with you every day.
I mean, I was like just in Montana with my family there.
And like it's, I think it's hard to let like those things, like let things in like ego and any kind of like arrogance come in when you really genuinely stay connected to like where you come from and the people around you and who you're doing it for and who you're representing.
Yeah.
Well, I saw that.
I can't remember recently.
Who the hell it was, but it was, it was a really big actor that would go.
back and um we just go back home and go back and and i can't shoot i can't remember it was someone
really massive go back home and just kind of chill out and yeah oh it was it was the michael j fox
uh documentary on apple oh oh it's so good but it's like it's tough it's tough to watch obviously
he's going but he but in the height of back to the future and all that he would go home he would
because of the because his dad you're not michael j fox the movie's right you know and you
go watch the car like and that but that's you need that in your life yeah yeah but that's you need that in your life
you really do and so you can you can tell just from hearing that one sentence of you're saying how you
mention that because if you mention that it's in your mind and that's something as you further along in
your career you'll you'll continue to keep that yeah i think it's i think that like you know i do i think
all of us i think that to be good at i don't think that you can like get good at or like even
making this movie i don't think you can try to like i don't think you can necessarily make a
good movie just by trying to make a good movie if that makes sense i think that like
you know, Dan, I was just talking about this, like, Dan cares so much about, like, he made this movie because he loves Predator movies.
Like, he's there because it actually interests him and because he really cares about it.
And that's also why I do what I do.
And I think that you have to, you know, really, like, be there because it's not, like, it's not always super fun.
You know, like, this movie was not always super fun.
There were moments that were really fun.
I'm sure.
But it was not always really fun.
And so it's like you have to be there.
I think you can't just be there for like the end product.
You have to be there because you love doing it and you love the process.
And so then to me, I think the kind of like external part of it is very, I think like comes last.
It's kind of like secondary to everything else because like I'm there because I want to be there.
Yeah.
And that's really.
That's it, you know.
Yeah.
Did you feel the pressure at all?
Because like this is the, you know, maybe Dan made it easy as well.
the easier.
But like, because like you said, like the locations alone, I can hear everything you're saying
with the locations, whereas I can only imagine how it's like, oh my gosh, it's like weather.
Was it pretty cold there as well, too?
No, we were there for a long time.
We were there from spring until fall.
So it was like nice weather when we first got there.
By the time we were shooting, it was actually so hot.
Okay.
Dan and I had like a running joke of like, oh, is this outfit going to be better to be hot or cold in?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they were both equally uncomfortable.
But yeah, it was really, really hot in the summer.
And then by the time we were done, which was like all day time stuff that we were shooting.
And then by the time we were done, we were doing nights.
And then that was fall time.
And so that got pretty chilly.
So we experienced all the weather.
I'm sure you did.
And then, but yeah, but as far as the pressure went through, you didn't feel like there was any pressure on you or to this lead of the movie taking the...
I mean, I did have those thoughts in my head.
But, you know, I did have those things of more, I think more that was about, like, oh, people, you know, have put trust in me and people are believing in me. And is that found a lot of like, you know, imposter syndrome thoughts.
So just like, oh, is this, you know, should I be here and stuff like that when you're like, yeah, it's 100% I should be here.
Right. It's like this internal battle you're having with yourself. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Which is also very, I think, aligned with the movie, fortunately and kind of everything that she's going through of like being this person who's like so viciously.
confident, you know, in terms of when she speaks on what she is going after, when she's like,
no, I want to hunt. I want to be there. I deserve to be there. I know that I can. And then when you
see her and she gets alone and she's there, she's like, oh my God, I don't know if she should be here.
And I think that's a really relatable feeling. And what's important is that it's like, you know,
those thoughts come and go and that those are just thoughts. And that really it's like you're there
because you're supposed to be there. And that's like the story, I think that she goes through as well as kind of
also what I was experiencing to a degree.
Because, yeah, there is also that thing where, like,
I mean, definitely, like, the terrain of where we were.
It was very, that also felt so far removed from, like, shooting a movie.
It just felt almost, like, silly to think about that that's what we were doing
because it just was, like, you know, we'd just wake up and we'd be outside all day.
And we'd do this thing.
And I would, like, chase a deer.
I would be, you know, hunting with my dog or stuff like that.
That kind of feels then just, like, so normal and real.
Yeah.
And then, but there was one to, I remember, you know, the clapper board is going.
And I forget it was like, you know, scene 32, whatever, something, pee.
And he went, P for Predator.
And I was like, oh, my God, this is a Predator movie.
And I just had this moment.
And his name is Perry.
Yeah.
And I looked at him and I was like, Perry, this is a pretty freaked out.
And I was just having this moment.
And I was like, oh, my God, this is so cool.
That's pretty awesome.
And then I was like, okay, sorry, guys.
I got to, well, tell me about seeing the predator for the first time, no on set,
though, when they have, when they have the, because that alone, it's such an iconic costume.
Yeah.
And what Stan Winston didn't know that?
Like, it is, yeah, what's that like the first day?
It's got to like snap you in the character immediately.
Yeah, 100%.
I saw it.
And, I mean, it was like, there was like whispers, you know, there was like slowly people were
disappearing into the tree.
Everything is trees.
It's trees everywhere.
So, you know, there was one specific direction of tree that everybody was.
disappearing into and I was like oh I wonder you know what's going on over there and it's kind of
very like oh nothing nothing's happening and I was like okay I don't believe you um so I walked you know
so I followed the crowd and I saw like a small huddle of people and then the people kind of stepped back
and I saw like movement in the trees and I got closer and then I saw the suit and I was like oh
Oh my God.
And I looked at it and my like noddy brain took over and I was all.
Yeah, I could take him.
That was the first thing that I said by my side.
I was like amazed.
Yeah.
And then I was like, nah, that's not hard.
That's why you got the gig, man.
Yeah.
And it was super cool.
And then I like walked up to him and we were just like looking at each other.
And I was like, you know, because there's everything.
I mean, they just did such an amazing job on it.
Like I think that's something also that made our movie different is that.
you know, it's not like tennis balls and green screens.
It's literally like a man in a suit out there.
And the suit looks so good.
That's why I enjoyed it.
Yeah.
Because I haven't, like, so Terminator, the first Terminator is one of my favorite films of all time.
Everybody loves a second film.
I like the second film a lot, but I love that just really raw, focus on the characters, focus on what's going on.
And that's what, that's what Prey did for me immediately.
So what comes next?
Is there talk of a second one?
You guys, anything as far as potential?
No.
Just kidding.
Nothing that we can talk about?
I mean, listen, I would do another.
You know, I think I would do it.
I don't know what the plans are.
Nothing yet.
I mean, no.
I don't know.
Fair enough. Fair enough.
I mean, I love these people.
I love this movie.
I love this character.
So if there is a way.
You would be open for it.
But would, and you'd want Dan to come back, obviously.
For sure.
Yeah.
What about opportunities that as far as coming out afterwards?
Because we had talked, we were looking at some of the stuff that was on the shelves and stuff.
We were talking about Star Wars and other things too.
Have you had an opportunity to, you know, that's why I said has things changed as far as your life?
And auditions, things are coming up because I could see you in any of these.
I could see in Marvel.
I could see in DC.
I can see in Star Wars.
Absolutely.
I mean, I'm surprised that there hasn't been an announcement yet, to be completely honest with you.
I know that we're doing Last Airbender.
You're like, I don't know, she slept for the rest of the name.
She said every time.
We talked about pray for a while.
And then she just fell asleep.
And then she fell asleep every single time.
But I know there's only so much you can talk about with Last Airbender.
Can you talk about anything in Last Airbender or nothing at all?
I don't know what I'm allowed to do.
Okay.
But I'm really excited.
I mean, I loved Airbender as a kid, like just obsessed.
And then I rewatched it recently.
And like, it's just, you know, probably around the time that I was like prepping for the show.
And I was just like, I was like, if,
10 year old me or five year old me or whatever,
if little me knew that I was going to be in the show at all,
and then if I told her that I was going to play Princess U.S.
She would poop her pants.
Like, it's so excited.
You know, like, it's the coolest thing ever.
So I'm really excited.
I'm excited to see it.
And yeah.
Yeah, fair enough.
We'll move.
I don't know.
Yeah, no, it's fair.
I don't want to get you in trouble.
But when it comes to that other stuff, too,
and maybe it's just because you're busy shooting that or to, has there been,
Have you had an opportunity to meet with anybody?
Marvel, DC, Star Wars?
Is that something that potentially are we going to fall asleep again?
Just so.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm very open to that.
I think that, like, it's, you know, I grew up doing, like, jiu-jitsu and, you know,
I had, like, horses and dirt bikes and stuff like that and, like, that archery and, like,
that was the thing about this movie is that, like, even, you know, months or maybe a couple years before,
I had bought my dad a set of throwing axes for fathers.
Wow.
So, like, this is just, like, how we live.
Yeah.
And so I think that I've been fortunate to end up in these spaces where, like, you know,
I think Legion was the same.
You know, I think this is the same that it's like, it's not just about any, it's not, like,
it's not just a straight drama.
It's also not just, like, action for the sake of action.
It's like, I think I've been fortunate to be in these spaces that really blend, like,
people who care about their characters and their stories.
And then I also get to do really fun stuff.
Yeah.
Because I love, you know, I love writing.
I love action sequences.
I love all of it.
And also I am like, you know, I do love just acting.
Yeah.
And I love storytelling.
And I think that it's really cool to be able to blend those and kind of go off in any direction that you so please.
And so, yeah, I'm definitely, you know, I think that anything that holds those qualities is something that I'm interested in.
Fair enough. So I also like to ask where what do we do as far as just like when you get an opportunity to relax when you get an opportunity, are you more of a obviously chucking axes and trees and stuff too. Are you going outside a lot or are you sometimes you like to curl up on the couch watch TV. You're watching certain shows, movies or yeah, you're both?
I'm a big couch. What's some of the shows that you're digging right now? Oh my God. Okay. Well, Dan and I really, this is one of the first things we bonded over. Yeah.
was our love of Love Island.
Oh, my God.
He's a big Love Island fan.
And we, I don't even remember how that happened, but he had bought us.
We have matching Love Island hats.
It's hilarious.
Rewired is their brand.
And so he bought us, I have a little, we have little rewired hats because we love Love
Island.
He texted me the other day and he was like, new UK season out.
He was like, new format.
I love the relationship that you guys have, man.
You tell you really bonded.
Yeah.
He's super, you know, he's just.
just a cool. I mean, that's what it's, I think
is very fortunate to just be around
somebody who's just like a normal, nice person.
You know, and then also is
supremely talented at their job. And a Love Island
fan. And a Love Island fan.
No, so there's Love Island,
obviously. Of course.
What else? I just watched,
I was just hanging out with my parents. They love murder documentaries.
Oh, is it? Yeah, they're a big date line
fans. Well, tying it back into
Predator and everything, too. I'm watching that Arnold
Doc right now. Oh, yeah. It's awesome.
I haven't seen it yet.
Well, it's fantastic.
It's really, really, it's interesting because it's like it goes through like four parts
of him, like, from his, I don't know how much you're familiar with this story, with the idea of, you know, what he did.
We're coming over from Austria being the bodybuilder that he was, transitioning, seeing the goal of what he wanted to do, be an actor.
Like, yeah, right.
It was English.
And then he becomes the biggest movie star of all time.
And they say, you're making millions of dollars.
Well, now I want to be a politician.
Yeah, okay, sure.
It becomes a governor of California.
It's crazy.
It's a crazy story.
I would love to watch it.
It's really, really good.
I'm sure you get this,
you've gotten this conversation.
I'm sorry, it's a very,
probably cliche conversation,
but did Arnold reach out to you at all?
Did you talk to Arnold?
Did you have met Arnold at all?
No, none of the above.
I've not interacted with him.
No, I think that it's just,
I don't, I mean, I don't know.
I think, you know, it's just very,
I imagine, I mean, I can't speak for him at all,
but I feel like,
I think that it never even kind of,
I think early on it had crossed my mind,
but it also didn't like, I think we just got so involved so quickly, for me, mindset-wise,
I think just so involved so quickly in the world that we were in, in terms of the story.
And then just, you know, I was also like, I was shooting a show at the time.
So it's like I went from like literally like finished a season of the show, had like two weeks,
started the movie, went back to the show immediately.
And so I think it was just very like, it didn't even, you know, I think it just came and went so quickly that thought.
Yeah.
But obviously if I saw him somewhere, I would say hi to him.
I did have a dream about him.
Really?
What was the dream?
When we were in the beginning of shooting, I think.
It was like...
That's crazy.
What was the dream?
Yeah, I've never talked about this.
I remember I told Dan, and I think I told my parents, and that's it.
I had a dream that I was, like, walking on the street or something, and it was, like, empty.
It was, like, L.A. Beachtown, and it was, like, totally desolate and empty.
And he, like, pulled up in, like, a fancy car with a driver, and he got out, and he got out,
And he was like, get in the car.
And so I got in the car and he took me to his like home office.
And it was like, it was like almost kind of like that kind of vibe.
It was just like there was just like stuff like like I think kind of like his legacy.
And there was like a lot of people in there.
I remember it was like very like it was like dark and but very lively.
Like it felt like deep.
You know like this place runs deep.
and I remember he sat down
and I was standing there
and he like handed me like a
I don't remember like a scroll almost
like handed me a scroll
and we like talked
there was not a lot of speaking in the dream
there was just a little bit of words
I don't remember what they were
and he handed me the scroll and then I left
It's like passing the torch
I was like passing the torch on us
did they have whiskey and lulu with me
the two donkeys and the horse
the best is the cigar
but that's great
no you know what's going to trip you out
is that in that documentary
he had they show when he's
when he's um
he carries scrolls
very well might but he's a layer
but he has a lair
when he was when he was
politician he created like this cigar
lounge which was dark
and I shit you're not you got to see the
it's part three
and he would take the
he would do meetings and stuff with people
in these in this tent
and I swear
And like they would be in where they would look and other people would want to get deals done with him.
Like how come I'm not in there?
You get in there when there's time for you could get in there.
And it's and it really, it's it when you were saying that, I was like, oh, maybe it was the cigar lounge that she had the dreamy bottle.
That's crazy.
I do remember thinking, why is it so dark in here?
Yeah, it was, it's crazy.
Is it all like mahogany wood?
I don't think so.
It was like a cigar tent is what it was.
You should, you should check it out.
But, oh, that's cool.
Congratulations again on this movie.
It's really cool.
And I'm, look forward.
I know we're going to see a lot more of you.
I can't wait.
So when you do, and when we got Airbender out there and when you have,
when you eventually get cast in one of these Marvel, DC, Star Wars movies, because you will.
Come back and talk to us because I want to, it was a pleasure talking to you today.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you for having me.
Guys, if you haven't checked out, pray, what are you doing?
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You have to see it.
Amber Midthunder.
And by the way, what an action star name, by the way, is something I wanted to tell her also.
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Peace.
You see?
I'm telling you, man.
She was great.
I think she's going to be around for a long time.
You're going to see her in other big roles.
She's going to help.
It's hilarious when I was asking her about.
So what about this?
Like that was, I thought that was funny.
Sometimes you ask people and they, you know, when I asked Diego about Diego Luna about Marvel,
he kind of looked off to the side to the publicist.
like, uh, she just turned her head to the side and pretend she was sleeping. I thought that was
awesome. But yeah, I think, I think she was, she was just really, um, a, a fun person to talk to,
and I root for her because I really enjoyed that film. And I, and as I told her, I like the style
that they did. And I love the, she was talking about the relationship she's got with the director.
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