The Kristian Harloff Show - ANDOR EPISODE 6 Spoiler Discussion | Sith Council | Star Wars

Episode Date: October 12, 2022

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Back. Back. Back. South Counsel, everybody. It's me. Steph's a braw. Hello there. Well done.

And the Kalanowski of Mike. How are you? I'm back. You are? I'm back. Nice to have you. All right. Welcome back, everybody.

Look at. Look at that shot. It's a great shot. What are you guys thinking in the studio thus far? Looking great. Looking good so far. Yeah. Very nice.

Mike came in and noticed. He's like, is the wall different? It's a big old holes. The TV's not there anymore. That's what there was. Okay. So I used to come in. I'm very perceptive of what out of the room I'm in.

It's something looked different. It caught my eyes. Like, what's different? You paint it and stuff's like, no, no, there's holes in the wall. I'll give you more credit than what I have because I'll tell you this. I did this. I've done this many times over. This, but this is the most famous one, stuff.

There was something hanging in my kitchen a little while, like a couple years ago. And I said to my wife, I was like, oh, I really like that. on the wall. Like how long has I been there? She was three years. Oh. Three years? I don't notice things. Is it a painting? It was like a Coca-Cola thing. I really liked it. And for some reason, that day, my eyes decided to say, oh, he noticed it. Imagine how many more things you've missed in your life. Oh, shit. You have no idea.

I'm wondering why I've only been in like three relationships in my lifetime. I've missed a lot. Anyway. Do you notice if your wife changes her hair? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've been, I've been accustomed. To make sure it's for my own. You got to recognize that if you don't. But I also notice it to be honest with you too. She's like she goes, she's going this weekend. I'll notice it right away.

Roxy's the one who gives me the more shit. If stuff, if I'm if we forget, she's like, oh, do you have something to say? I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot to give people bubbly. That's what I forgot. It's true. I did. Do you want to bubble? Oh, yeah.

I'm good. No, I'll get stuff one in a second. Yeah. Okay, let's get into this thing. because I don't know how much we're going to know. What else? Is there any other news going on? I mean, I guess, you know.

Oh, didn't they? Yes, go ahead. Something with the acolyte. What was it? There was something with the acolyte. Like in my head, I was just like, well, this is not. It's, that's what they said they start filming like in a month or so. So Steph and I have been talking about this.

Oh, remember, Steph keeps saying, which I agree with her. She's like, it's happening. And I don't disagree. It is. It is happening. I just think that they're just like, oh, yeah, we have that thing. I mean, and everyone's like, well, they're going. going to talk about it more at celebration.

They very well could. I think that they will. I think they're absolutely going to push it in it. But I just think it's bizarre that they didn't even mention it. That's my only thing. I just think it's weird that they didn't mention it. I kind of in hindsight, foresight, whatever you want to call it, I think it's good because our eyes are on Andor.

Like that's what everyone is talking about right now. We're all in Andor. I mean, it helps that the show is fantastic. But I think there's, you know, it's always that bright and shiny. You know, we're in the middle of something. everybody was like, oh my God, when's the trailer coming? You know, we're in the middle of Sheehawk right now. And it was like, one more, Black Panther, Black Panther.

Right. And when we get to Black Panther, when that comes out, you know, it's like, oh, he's on to the next bright and shiny. With this, there's, they're not giving us the bright and shiny. People are focusing on one thing. Well, I do like the fact that they're focusing on Andor now. And we'll get into it. Now this is Andor, um, episode six, which is crazy.

Because that's the whole thing was them dropping three the first week. And now we're already at six. I said it in my spoiler review this morning. I'll say it again here. If anyone thinks this episode was boring, I mean, you're out of your mind. You're out of your mind. And if somebody says, well, it was boring until we got here.

Why do you think you were so invested in the show in this episode? Because of all the lead-up. And like I've saying this so many different times, stuff, to start with you here, this structure that we heard about a celebration of the, episode one, jab. Episode two, jab right hook. Episode three, finish off with the uppercut.

And they've been doing that, and they really, like, episode one set up the stakes. So two, you know, a little bit more, him on the run. Three, join with Scars Guard, get to hell out of Dodge. Four, here's the new mission. Five, learn the crew, start to train. Six, the mission. And the mission delivered hands down. And what I said was people die that you thought was going to die, but not in the way you thought they were going to die.

And there was a lot of that, like, a lot of that, like the skiing stuff right over my head. I didn't think he was going to turn. No, I know. Well, play back the tapes, y'all. I think I said in the first episode was introduced, I turned to Christian. I said, do you think he could be bad? You did. Do you remember that?

You did. You did. And absolutely. And the thing was, I was hoping inside of the episode that no one. one turned bad because what I thought was, is I going to turn someone bad during the mission? And they're going to screw up the mission. Totally, totally.

And then something, but the mission was done. Yeah. I loved that. Me too. I this, the way the approach, the three episode tiers is so cool.

I think it's so genius in the way that he's just changing television, even more so in opening the way that we can present television in different stories. I love what it's taking from Rogue One and then building off that in a TV way that is really working. This episode was so stunning too. The mix of VFX.

Cinematic. Yeah, real life footage. Them filming in Scotland, thank you so much. It is sick looking. Yeah, Mike, you love this episode, right? I did. Yeah. You know, it's funny because I've seen a lot of people online.

Not a lot of people. It's simply like, finally, an episode felt like Star Wars. I was like, why? Because it had lasers now. Now, like, it just, it's just, I don't need that. I didn't need the ending to be a great episode. The build is what made it great. Yeah.

I don't need, like, and just seeing, like we said, the characters of way they ended up and where they ended up, you just like, that turn, like, that's not an actor. Eben Moss, I believe his name, Bar. Scheen? Yeah, Evan, something. He usually doesn't, usually, they'll always cast the guy that, oh, he's usually the shady guy, you know, and he's not ever played. He's not known for that. So that turned. But and or it's 100% in character.

He did it in the first episode, didn't, didn't, and, so let's talk about that, though. Let's talk about that, but it was different. It was strange how he did that, right? You're right. It was a very rogue one moment. Yeah. 80 million credits in the tank there.

Yeah. You and me were the same type of dude. Let's, let's rip him off. And then you shoot some dead. Yeah. That said so much in that. Yeah. Because what it said was exactly what you're saying, Mike,

it's that moment of, okay, I am fighting. for the cause, I'm doing my job. I'm not here to just rip people off. I'm doing my job. But it also said like it's that statement of subconsciously him really believing in it. Yeah. And I think that the two times we've seen him kill, I think are two situations where I don't think he would have gotten out alive unless he had made that split second decision.

Because even though it's a gray area decision to murder someone, I don't think he would have gone away. You think scheme would have started to talk about? Yeah. I think he wanted the 80 million. I don't think he would have been okay. Anyone who's that, like... Maybe eventually. He needed him to get off the planet. Yeah. No, no, I'm saying I think he would have landed on a new planet and killed him.

Killed him after him. You're probably right. But I also think that... I think the reason he killed him was because if they had continued on on the mission, like if Andor said, no, I can't do this. We've got to finish this and this and he's like... And then they all would have gone along as a group. He would have killed them eventually. So he's saving them of like, oh, you're going to turn on us. No matter where we can never turn our back on you.

You're a liability. You're gone. Yes, and I think that that's what was so... Yeah. I mean, in him taking care of the crew, and he just said it too. He said that and they showed it in that, and every time the preclips of things that happened, he said, I'm here to do my job. I'm not here to screw anybody over.

I'm here to do my job. I got paid to do a job. I'm going to do the job. And that's why my favorite, one of my favorite moments, what's the lead character's name of the woman? Vell? Bell? Bell?

Bell, that's right. So Vell, this is why we have Mike on the show. So Vell, when she's standing there after the kid, I call him mouse because you remind me a mouse from, from Matrix. On internet, they said, like, they posted this guy, mouse, and like one other from another show. It's all the same. And the way he died, everybody thought he was going to die,

but nobody thought he was going to die like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was heartbreaking. And then the fact that he was able to get up and go,

climb, climb, dive. That was all awesome. But when Vell says to Andrew, when she walks in and he has got the blaster, and he's like, it's not what you think. She goes, you disgusting bad. A bastard she calls him. And I was like, oh, man. She realizes quickly that when he goes, no, I'm just here from my, I'm going to take what I was promised.

Yeah. Take the crystal. I'm out. Yeah. And she's like, oh, wait a minute. Because he says, he's a scheme's going to kill you. She's like, no, he wouldn't do that. He's like, what did you think about that?

Yeah. And then she realized that. You see that in that moment. I mean, you think of how long they were training before Andor came in. Yeah. Like they had a bond. And then, but she realized real quick, he's like, oh, he's 100% right. Yeah.

She talked about honor among thieves and stuff. But. Yeah. Like, and I love her like badass, badass for four or five episode. In this one, she hopes a coward. She almost backs out. Can't do it. Well, she's not coward much.

I think human side. I think the human, like the nerves and everything. Sure. The break the fact because I think, you know, coward or fear would have been if she would have turned away, right? So she's standing there and she feels it and she, and there is that moment that you're talking about where they're like, are we going or what? Yeah.

And it's like, this is a do or die moment for her. Right. So when that, that whole thing. I mean, the intensity of all of it. And it felt like you felt Tony Gilroy all over this thing. Yeah, of course. Sinta was so badass. She was great.

She came in blasting. Yeah. She was up for her. No question. Bob just got him. But when they went over the railing, I was, I haven't seen that kind. That was super spy stuff. That was really cool.

That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. The way, the music too, I had like this 24 type TikTok, like, woven into it. It was so well done. The music on the show is so great. It's so great. And I think that overall would really, go ahead, Mike.

Did, yeah, I wanted to ask you guys, because I don't remember it. So we, when did, okay, so who's, the guy who's leading, so they're four soldiers. They're disguised the four soldiers, he's leading the four. He died when he went to. Former stormtrooper.

Yeah, he died when he went to go to Vell. They were in the, they were in the thing. He was wondering, he was a first one out. When did the lieutenant die? Or is he still alive? When they know he's dead. I don't remember him. Oh,

he was actually a first one. He was the first one. I think he was the second one. Oh, no, he was the first one. You were right. He was. And I remember being like,

yes, he was, he was the first one. His last words were iconic, though. He gets, he gets whacked up top. When he starts shooting, he gets whacked out from the heart attack.

Yeah. And that's when all hell breaks. We don't know if he's dead dead or just. He's gone. They didn't make, but they didn't make a, but they didn't make a shot of it like the other guy. No, no,

you're right. I'm like, because I was like, did he just die? Yeah, but I mean, I think they gave him his last iconic lines when he's like serving you for seven years is worse. He's definitely dead. Yeah. And then the other guy, yeah, they're dead. And I was like, bold choice if those two are the only ones who die in this episode. Yeah.

And then it wasn't. And I was like, okay. No, but I thought, but you know what I. But what I also thought was a moment that they did. It was a fact that like, but those two black guys that died were two of the most. And what they did, they fought against the, they went against. the evil. Yeah, from the inside out.

Both of them, one, the main left from Stormtrooper, and the other was realizing after eight years, and without those two guys, this mission does not happen. No. You make a great point, and I was thinking about this, because, you know, this show is incredibly, and all Disney Plus shows have been really good as far as diversity, and, but this, and, you know,

making sure, like, their team was a very diverse cast, and you see it as, hopefully it's the right, for the right choice. You know, it's not trying to fill, you know, whatever reason they have to do it. But so then a lot of people say, oh, the two black guys die first. But their characters, everyone was fully fleshed out. It wasn't like we're sacrificing, oh, the great storyline characters. We kill it. Everyone's character was so invested from Sinta to the kid. So it was just like, no, we've got, this is the way it goes off. It made sense for the story. It's not a matter of, you know, shortchanging a certain.

No, I don't. I agree. The show is so well-witten for every character. It was. regardless. It was like classic Rogue One where at least, I know some people had criticism of not being attached to the characters. I found attachment with all of the characters. And then by the time they died, it reinforced that the whole point that every man or every woman, every person can be involved in the fight in their own way.

Like everyone has their own role to play. Well, that's why I think that this show has been more, I mean, I love Rogue One, but this show, that's why TV is more impactful because you got to spend that time with them. And you learn, like, this is something that you wouldn't get. in a movie and also stuff for people who are saying it's too slow. It's so silly where you learn about Gorn is that the, which is the...

Lieutenant Gorn? Lieutenant? I didn't know him as the lieutenant. I think it's Gorn. I'll pull it up on. But either way, when they learn about Gorn the fact that he that, yeah, so Gorn has this had a relationship with this woman, fell in love realized that he was doing the wrong thing. Those couple of those lines and the fact that he's been working

inside and you look what he's doing over the course of those episodes, you're already attached to him. So he's not just some kind of nameless, you know, empire guy. So it's like, oh, well, you only got to spend like a quarter of a scene when there's, who cares if he dies? I cared when he died. I cared when, I cared when, like so much.

I cared when he died. I cared when, when, when, was stormtrooper? Stormtro. Oh, right now. Yeah, right now. They were both such great actors. And but it's, it's. Marcona.

Yes. So Marcona, when he died, I was like, no, because of what they set up. They set up with this idea of like, all right, here's this guy. Oh, you didn't, you didn't know. He was in, he was a stormtrooper. That's why he's so methodic and everything he's doing. That's why he was so, because Andrew says, this guy loves giving orders.

I was like, oh, you would understand why, right? He's like, what do you mean? And then you're like, oh, he fought against it. And then he made that rush to protect his people and he got whacked. And you're like, oh. And then before I knew Skeen was a scumbag. Skeen is running through. I'm like, he's going to get whacked.

And I'm like, no. And he makes it. I'm like, all right, great. And then Malice, he made it. He made it. And then he gets crushed by the credit. So I was like, oh. Oh, it's brutal.

So it was set up really well because you cared about this crew. And they did that over the course of four and five. And now what now? And then you finish up with Lutheran? Yeah. At the very end going, he's cracking up, he's laughing his ass off. Because he did it. Because he did it.

Because he hears some guy going, oh, do you have a thing from a, blah, whatever the planet is? And he's like, no, why would you say that? Because there was a rebellion there. And the empire's losing their minds right now. Oh, we're in here, everyone, we'll know what's leaving. Tell your families,

we've got to be here to midnight. Easily. Past midnight. And it's like, oh, man, it's going down. Mon Mothma's giving a speech, and everybody's leaving in the middle of it. Now, did you get, okay, so Mammothma, the speech, did you get, I saw the couple people leave,

but it just seemed almost empty from the beginning. Like, there is no more, the planets don't care anymore, or they don't have representation. That was incredible. And then the few that were there were, like, reading their pads or whatever, like, oh, we got to go. Because there's no place for them.

It doesn't matter anymore. And it's that, they're complacency. complacent. It's also, and what I said to you, and I still feel the House of the Dragons is the best show on television right now. I don't watch it. I didn't ask you that. I don't watch it. I still didn't ask you that. But I, but what I will say is it's, to me, it's the best show on television because it's must watch, must watch television. Like, I have to be there every week. And you can't pull me away. And I thought, Andor, leading up to this episode is like, I need to watch it. I have to watch it, but, you know, I'm not there yet. This has put me over, over, over that limit. And we're at the

halfway point, right, of the season. Yeah, yeah. So, like, now I'm like, oh, my God, give me another episode. I'm glad that I got away to a week, but I'm still like, give me another episode. I love that they're letting the directors do three. I love that they're giving them these little pods. Love that. Love that.

Because they're telling the story that the Gilrways want to tell. Yeah. And they have this full-on thing. Like, so I was talking about it yesterday. I was on Campia show, and they brought up, like, how Kevin Smith doesn't want to do, um, wouldn't want to do Star Wars, wouldn't want to do Marvel because he's, he's the fandom is. They hate him.

Look what they did with him with the key man. But he was saying that he brought that up. But he said it's because it's, it's just, the fandoms are tough inside of that. And, and there are certain directors, like,

Kevin's the guy wears his emotions on his sleeve and, like, he, and that the Masters of the Universe stuff hurt him. It hurt him to his core, right? Like all the, the backlash and everything, too.

It absolutely did. Tony Giroy is like the Honeybadger. Tony Goodroy don't care. He don't give it. He don't give a crap. No. He's, He's like, I would love,

I would love to somebody have a conversation in Tony Gilrigal. It's a boring. It's like, slow is, if you want to say it's slow, I'll give you slow, I'll give you slow. I'll give you slow, I'll give you that. Yeah. But boring, you're not, you're not watching the show if you think it's boring.

It was, it's the comment that I saw a couple comments yesterday from, you know, like finally it's felt like Star Wars. It's been Star Wars. Why? Because there was a tie fighter with, and they had a balaster fight. It's been Star Wars from, and that's the great thing about the show is, it's, like we said, my thing.

no Jedi, no lightsabers, but it's 100% Star Wars. Yeah, but you can still do this tone and have all that. Yeah, you could. Of course you can. I just love this the way it is. What I said is, it doesn't feel like Star Wars. Well, maybe Star Wars should start to feel like this more. How about that? I love the things that I see people and I don't agree with this, but they're like, it's the best thing since 1980.

I'm like, I love hearing that. I don't agree with it. Because I love all the flavors. It's hard for me to argue that it's not the best written thing since 1980s. That's an easy argument. Yeah. I mean, I'm still, I'm still a man Mandalorian is just fun. Mandalorian has that feel of what people are talking about the fantasy space opera,

that people right away go, hey, that's what Star Wars is supposed to be. It's called Star Wars for a reason, by the way. The political stuff, the strife, the fascism from battling with him, because what I mentioned in my spoiler review, and most of you guys agree with this or not,

in the first episode, remember when Andor is saying that the empire, he says in the trailer, that the empire is look how fat they are look how they're lazy they never expect us coming in that was such a

foreshadowing for this and the embodiment of that was the main the main guy who has the heart attack we need to give him a name too mustache magoo oh my gosh this belt has been compressed when you put it away she's like perhaps you've expanded we'll call him brimley

we'll call him brimley so but brimley was uh but he was but he was the embodiment of what that what he was talking about because he's, he can't get the waste thing around him. He can't imagine in a million years anybody would be turning on him. He's walking around. He's making fun of the natives.

He's, he's everything stinks. I want to get out of here. And he just never saw it coming. And that's what, and the, and the end of it wasn't even part of the rebellion at this point when he said, hey, you can just sneak in and never see it coming.

And that's ultimately what happened. Yeah, I really liked his character. He's such a slob. And I loved how he represented. What I think is so masterful is their research to, I studied human rights in college, and we took, like, so many courses on genocide

and human rights issues, and they're doing it in such a great way. Like, they're talking about it in a way that I think the lame man can understand, but it also makes you think, which I miss that about Star Wars. I like the Star Wars that makes me think about my place in the world, like good versus evil and all of that.

So with the Aldani, I loved what they did. Yeah, they were like, they think we're stupid. giving us this stupid fur and think that's okay and think we're distracted and we're not. We know better. And that main dude, the main Litan was, he was a beast.

How did they keep Brian Cranston's casting a secret? I saw that for a second. I was like, I'm sorry, is this him? He's walking through and the disdain on his face as he's walking past all the, even when he sees our guys,

he doesn't realize what they are, but he's looking, the only time he kind of acknowledges it, it's when Gorn looks over and says, and gives the wrong translation. Yeah. He's like, I don't say that. Yeah.

And he was like, all right. And then the mixture of like the eye of the storm, the way and they play into that. And the tie fighters, when the fighters are getting into the Thai fighters, and you're like, oh, no, they're going to bring the Thai fighters out. And the thing that's so great about the Thai fighters is that, and as I mentioned you guys,

it's my favorite sound in all of Star Wars. Yeah. But they're also, even as dangerous as they are, they're also the easiest things to destroy. They're like paper. Like, they've always been like that. They're so fast. But one shot,

out. And they take all three of those things out because of the climb, climb, climb, climb, dive, dive. And that whole scene, and that was the best, he's like, hey, I need some coordinates. It's like, this guy's dying back here. And he's just like, well, it doesn't change the fact that I need coordinates. We're going to die if we don't get this. Right. The tension in this episode. And I should be, and we got to find what the director's name. She, well, she did all three. I'll pull it up right now. I got it right here. She did all three. Yeah, she was. I think her initials are SW. She was great too, man. Like, it's like, they have it. Susanna White.

Okay, Susanna White was... I was great. S-W. So Susanna White was awesome. I got to say, I got to say, the I sequence at the very end, I will put up there's one of the best sequences in all of Star Wars.

It was great. It was so beautiful. It really was. The combination of effects, practical, just a... Emotion. It reminds me, I mean, I'll say this is, you know, lover hate solo.

The scene in the maw at the end, it's fantastic. Yeah, for sure. And I got little shades of that, but just awesome. Well, but like you said, But you can do that and you can make all those things work. And it's a matter of investment.

It's investment. You could have easily made this show the way the previous, like, BobaFed and Obi-Wan was. And it doesn't play the same, the same story. Yeah. But you start to play it where it's like a little bit more cheesy, a little bit more goofy, you know, a little bit more of the, well, we got to really dumb this down for kids. We got to make it for kids.

I understand that at one point, And I think even Lucasfilm does this. Well, Star Wars, George always said, Star Wars is for kids. Guess what? Those kids grew up and they still love Star Wars. So you've got to play towards them as well. Can't forget about them.

You can't. And that's what Tony Gilroy is doing. He is playing to that audience. He's realizing and understanding that that audience has grown up. Now, I'm not telling you don't make Star Wars for young kids also. Of course you do. But this is proven, make adult Star Wars. It works.

Do you feel, okay. I'm listening to that and a great point, do you feel, because when you watch the gallery series for the Mandalorian, it's all the round table, and Bryce Alice Howard's sitting and talking about my toys

and playing the sandbox. And we might get this, but we might not. We're not going to, I'll never get it for Tony Gilroy, but like Susanna White, are they going to sit around and go, gosh, I was Star Wars as a kid

and I got to play in that sandbox. So they were just like, no, I'm a filmmaker. I'm working with a great writer. We're making a great film, a great series. That's what they're doing. That's what they're doing.

That's what the Mandalorian, we feel. it's like kids playing with their toys. And you get that with Favre and all those guys. But these filmmakers, and maybe they will. But maybe when we get the gallery series, it's like Tony said, no, we don't want Star Wars. Don't feel like you've got a shoehorn in this.

We're telling this story. And if the Star Wars other stuff comes in, that's icing on the cable. Tony Gilroy wanted to make a spy thriller in the Star Wars Galaxy, and he has succeeded. Yeah. That's, he has done what, I mean, again, I love Favro. I love what he has done.

But Tony Gilroy delivered in a way, on Andor was spy thriller that Favreau did not deliver with Boba Fad as a mob story. It's not a mob story. It's not a gangster story. You know what I mean? It's like they pitched it and Favreau was quoted. Say, well, we watched Godfather. We watched Goodfellas. That wasn't in there.

If you told me you watched Born Identity or Mission Impossible and it came up. That's in there. This is the show that was pitched. This is the show that we thought we were getting from the trailers and everything like where we looked at those trailers from when we watched Boba Fett and went, Oh, that thing around the table. It's going to be a mob show and you can get that. And when you're watching Andor, you're going, oh, this is going to be a spy thriller.

There's going to be a political intrigue. There's going to be stuff with the empire. There's going to be moles. And it's all there. It's all there. I would, Hunter, I'd expect it. I would love to see it if, you know, the trope's like, somewhere in the show, we get like some kind of digital mask pull of someone

impersonating someone just because they've embraced the tropes so much, but made them fresh. But you did it. They did it already. They put the wig on, on Scarsgaard. Yeah. And they did that.

But they did it in that subtle way, right? Instead of like a mask. Yeah. But they absolutely did that. So I'm going to say this. And I'm going to, I'll stick to this now because I've got six episodes in. You know,

we always talked to is Vader going to show up? We're going to see Tarkin anywhere. I hope we never see those guys in this. Seeing how good the show is six episodes in with not any even touching on that stuff, season two maybe, but going forward, the next six episodes,

if we don't see Vader, we don't see Tark. We don't see Tark. We don't see Tark. We don't see a talk about Death Star somewhere. I don't think we need Vader. I hope to God we don't. I don't think we need Vader.

They've earned it. They don't need it. I think Tarkinette in the season finale would be pretty special. Okay. Okay. I'll go with you on that. Or even Krennick. Or even Krennick would be better, I think, because it does.

Or it might be the opposite because Krennick and their paths were never destined to meet. It's just like Rogue 1 we show him. But you meet him in those rooms. We need a Krenik somewhere. And this is the thing I saw it. I saw it again today. And because my first thing when I heard about this show, was why am I going to care about a guy that I know dies on the beach and scare?

Right. And the answer to that Tony Gilroy gave you right away was you're going to know how he got into this and why he cares and why he's able to be invested on what he went through during how he was involved. That's part one, right? But you're not really going to get attached to worry about him dying because you know how he goes. You're going to worry about the people around him. You're going to meet a whole bunch of people around him that you're going to care about and you're going to lose them.

And that's what's going to bother you. And because that crew, I cared about that crew. I didn't know anything that crew until episode three. And I was like, oh, and I knew Mouse was going to die. I knew it. And I hated how he died, but I appreciate how they did it. Smart. Two things to your point right there.

One, I didn't think for a second about Sierra Leighton boy this episode. Not in a bad way. Oh, right. Because we're so invested. Right. And we know what he was. Right. And we don't care because we know he's in the story.

he's to be back. We were so invested with them. And two, these characters that we met in one and two and three, like, I'm like, Bix, what are we going to find out of Bix? We're so invested in the little time we met them. And the buddy on the thing is like, yeah, I'll lie for you. Go and get out of here because cereal boy's going back and he's taking out that whole village. He's

killing them all. He's going to turn it. But you care about them, and we haven't seen them in three episodes. We're still like, what's going on with them. And they're all really, what I like to, you've got to have a lot of energy to be in that. And I think for that, I would assume that they're all on athletic greens. if I was to guess.

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All right. So, let's keep talking about this showman. It was, it really was. It was this episode, though. Where they go next? One thing, though, is this is so petty, and you know I love fashion. I've got to say, the level of realism that these clothes look lived in fully, I believe every piece of attire that's been put on in comparison to when Obi-1,

when we met O'Shea Jackson and the group of... The outfits looked like kind of how the Halfling's outfits look in Rings of Power, where I'm like, this looks like a play. This looks like you went into the local theater. I'm telling you. And I feel so bad because I know, like, there's so much power, like passion getting put into it. Yeah.

That's hilarious. That's a silly graphic. Come on now. Come on. We're going to be. I want to be cartoonized like that. We were. What happened to our Sith Council cartoon?

We got our Sith Council cartoon. We were. It's new. We got update. Well, Wicked Art did one for us. So, by the way, it actually reminds me we're going to be doing, we're putting up our store. So we're going to be working with T.

gun and we're putting up our store and we're going to have the Sith Council logo and we're also going to do apologies apologies for sure um we're definitely no apology and I think we have to do what does she propose and we need the top gun guy so the top gun guy I was thinking of doing a um just like the lettering of the top gun guy with a question mark exclamation point Brett had a great idea I'm going to take that sound bit of you just screaming the top gun guy and anytime Tom Cruise has mentioned ever The top gun guy. The top gun guy. So I had Jen Sturger, many people reach out to me and go,

the top gun guy clip was hilarious. It's like 30,000 views on Instagram or something. She's like, God, damn it, Steve. She's like, I know that. She's like, I know that sounding. It was so well. God. That was my dad's favorite thing to say to me when I was going on.

God, damn. It was the best. Like, so the top gun guy, that top. God guy? Unbelievable. Anyway. Oh, wait, can I tell you something random? Good news?

Okay, so my favorite thing Christian has ever told me is that I remind him of Maya Rudolph. Yes. She reposted one of my TikToks. I was like, ooh, I don't care about anyone, but her I care about. I was like, I have to tell Christian. Yes, you do. You remind me of her all the time. It's true.

Okay. It's like, Roxy reminds me. Her personality? A little bit of both. Like the facial expression. Yeah, both. Oh, you want to see the best facial expression ever, and I'll try to put the out. Oh, God, here we go.

I'm going to show. Steph always likes one of the little maniac. Oh, my God. Jesus. Showing my, why does she have so much personality? She's got, so I'm showing people here, and she's got on Finstock's old shirt, you were displaying loser behavior. She looks like the Farrell kid from Mad Max, like right there. She looks like a barbarian.

Is it the one that was on the skateboard and jumped off it? Yeah. And undies. I'm gonna, I was gonna do a video of that and send it to you guys, same way. It's a little blurred out area. That's a good way to get canceled. So anyway, let's get back to this thing. If I was canceled, when I came back, I'd be like, I'm back.

You just can't navigate off, huh? Nope. You stay right on track and then you just like to go. That's how I do it. Like a cat. That's how I do it, buddy. He's back. Listen, stop this.

So we're trying to get back on track. The episode's where it goes, right? And I think you guys said it, though. I think you said it. When it comes to Vic. and I think we start to maneuver back to them. Oh, yeah. I think in 789.

Return of the Bix. I think so. I think 7.89 she comes back. Because that has to be his love interest until I think she inevitably dies. And then that's why it opens up the space for Jen. I don't think he continues a love interest with her. I think, nope. I think Ray is the first.

Ray, Ray's coming back? Not right. Gin. Can you imagine? Jen. She's young. She's not even born. No, yeah.

There's no way Bix could be a. sister, right? Because she knows. No. No, they've had, they, they hint that they've been on it. And they said it at a, at D23 that they've had this. They're, they're, they're going to explore a little bit more. And I think that, and she's coming back for season two. She already, they said it. Grief builds bonds. Yeah. Yeah, he's, she's going to crap out. She's going to crap out. Yeah, it's going to be so sad. And maybe, you know, because we do know that. I don't think so. I know you've made that clear. I know. She dies, but not, I don't think there's a love bond that keeps going. Because then it's,

This is what, five years pre-Rogue one? And the last season is getting into two years before. He said the last one is going to be like five minutes before. We meet it. Yeah. Which I think we're going to lead right into that scene of when he goes to kill that. Is there going to be a time jump between one and two? I don't think.

I don't think it's dramatic as like House of the Dragon, but I think they'll be like a minor one. I think there's going to be time jumps in the next three in three episodes. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Because I think this covers more time than the second season. Okay. So I think we might have a flash forward.

or something. You might be right. Yeah, I mean, but look, because he's, which could make sense, right?

Because by the end of this episode, he's like, I'm out. Yeah. I don't want to, I'm not doing this. Here's the crystal. I'm out of here.

And she gives him the, she gives him the navigations, the manifesto. And he takes off. The manifesto, yeah. Yeah, he takes off.

And so I think we're going to, I think you're right. I think we're going to probably jump into, we're going to see that our, our crazy town cereal boy is, is, is he's going to be in a different position now. Yeah.

And now whether he's going to grow a beard or I bet. Okay. He's going to have a goatee in the next episode. He might. But I think that his downfall, again, is not listening to Mustache Magoo. Yeah. I think because I think he keeps hunting and or. I think that's going to be his, because he's obviously going to eat it by the end.

For sure. For sure. Because otherwise, where the hell is hate. Yeah. And then they're going to have to introduce. I mean, Krenick, I think, doesn't have to come in. He doesn't at the end of episode one. He's got to come in.

This whole agency is the Death Star. That's why he's in Star Wars is the Death Star. Right. So if they don't make it about the Death Star at all, he doesn't need to be in it. But I just think there's something. And the question is, we haven't mentioned him at all. Mads Mikkelson. Oh, yeah.

Matt has to show up, right? Does he though? Yeah, because he's been working with the Empire. Well, he's like a cameo. Like a cameo. Hold on. Okay. No, he's, okay, so let's think time-wise.

Because how, right now, the end, or how is it close to Rogue One? He's not going to be. A couple years? Yeah, he wouldn't be in it until season two. If he's going to be in it. But at that point, he's living on La Mue. That's true. When is he bail?

That's true. He's with the empire right now building on... Right. So if you're going to see him, he's in Corrason. If you're going to see him with the empire, you're going to see him now. Yeah. Right. That's a good point. Okay.

So how old is we meet Jin and she is... Five or something like that. Really young. And then I'm trying to think if he had her. I'm trying to think of the flashbacks in Rogue One. I think he had her. He's with Lara on Corrason. Where he's like...

Is he on Corrason right now? How long? Or is he left? And he's like, I can't do this anymore. That's true. How long has he been on that planet? You're right. Right.

The question is how long has he been? You might not see him in there. You're right. Absolutely right. He may not. He might be on that of the planet. So we might have missed his story. Interesting.

Until season two. Right. Because then he would be brought back. Because Gin's on the run at this point. Okay. So they are building it because they're saying that one episode they're like, there's a lot of something, something to Scariff. Yeah.

They're talking about materials of Scarf. So they're building you. You're right. You wouldn't see him. He's way gone at this point. He's on that planet. He's, no, wait a minute. He's got, I think he's living on the planet.

No, he's not. Why not? So we're, you're right and wrong at the same time. Always. Where we were thinking, no, because at that point, remember, she, she's like, what, nine or ten when, when, uh, she's really young. After. Gin.

Yes. Yeah. After he, after, yeah, right. He's taken by credit. Yeah, that's right. To start working on the thing again. Until he dies. But we see the flashbacks early on.

where they're on Corrason, where he's just like, we got to do this. But that's way before, dude. Right. Right. But that's not that. So the time period that we're in at the moment, right? So he's working on it. He's working on it.

So you could see it. It's not Jedda. It's the planet that where he gets killed. The rainy planet. Oh my God. Is that where he is? But you don't necessarily know he's not been traveling back before. Yeah, no.

I don't know exactly where he is, but he's in one location. I got it. I got it. It was Edo. Five pointer. Belt still smith. Shut your mouth. Yeah.

Look at this beauty. I had this. Did you know I held on to that? How long? Longer than any player? Ever? Over 365 days I had that. Interesting.

How many times have you defended it? Three times. Interesting. No one's ever done that. No one's ever done that. Never. Wow. No one's defended it twice.

Interesting. That I did. That's just the T. I think they're going to be focusing a lot more on the ISB part of the empire. Yeah. Because that's what they've been sprinkling. and now they're on overtime. Yeah.

And you said, Blondie looked pissed. She was pissed. She was like, I told you. Exactly. She's like, what,

you remember? I was here last week, Bill. Yeah. What's his name? What that guy's that? Bill. Bill Bumble,

we got Bill, we got Bill. He's like, I was here last week telling you. And this guy's like, I got my assistant saying, this is the right thing to do. And then what do you do, Bill?

You just say, oh, And now we got a blown up thing And heart attack central over there So what are you gonna we lost And they left a lot of credits behind still though A lot of credits left The fact that they took just

And the fact that they got away with 80 mil And they think and they were and they were and they were And they was like what are you doing? Leave it. She's trying to pick it up by herself He's like, come on there. What are you doing? Get out of there. That's when he got I think that's when he gets capped right at that point.

Yeah I think so. They were yeah Scene man was awesome. And then when the one guy comes in and he's like Uh sir what's going on? He's like, no, there's a top secret mission, beat it. And he's like, tell him. Oh, man, I got nothing now.

He's like, I got nothing. And then that's when Skeen's just like, F this and just starts firing away. What an awesome scene that was. Yeah, I love how he came down and was like just like not for a second acting like he was still a part of the empire. He was like, all right, mask off. Let's go. Right. And the way that actor played all his lines was so chill.

You'll hang for this. Yeah. After working for you for him. eight years, I deserve a lot worse. Yeah. Wow. Like he was ready to die if he needed to. Between that and you disgusting bastard, those are the two lines.

So it was such great lines. What is Cyrus? What's her name? She's the only one that was left off there. So I wonder how she's going to reunite. Sinta, yeah. She'll love her. They've got to have like a backup way.

Like, hey, we can blend in. This is the rendezvous because we knew. She knew she was going to be separated. Remember, a lot of those people still on the surface. Seth, they had no idea what was going on. on because remember they're looking up at the sky and she was blending in with them. So I think she can just kind of drift off and she'll be all right. They probably had like a hey we meet on the rendezvous so and so.

Well, I think that's her bay, right? Yeah. Is the blonde? Yeah. So she's going to come back for her. Yeah, yeah. They shared a cape. Isn't it the one?

She shares a cape with someone already. Yeah. Yeah. Then they showed them kind of like hugging and stuff. And I was like, okay. So that because that was interesting, she's like, I'll be fine. She's like, tell me you're going to be okay. She's like, I'm going to be good.

And even that whole scene of the. Ryan, they could have done something stupid and they didn't, where they could have tried to do a Han Solo moment, which I love the Han Solo, it's my favorite moments ever, but when he's like, hey, what's going on there? We need to figure out what's going on. And instead of some cheesy stupid line, she shuts it all off and shuts the electricity. Yeah, yeah. The Hux moment. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. Oh, la la la la la la. Like some cheesy. They didn't try to do some stupid joke there. They just made it seriously. They shut off the electricity and it intensified. It's like, that's what I'm saying.

And I get it. Like I said before, and I understand this. Like, you look at something like Skeleton Crew. That's going to be a show. There's going to be kids in it. And I think there's going to be more a serious tone of John Watts, what he told us. Yeah.

Like, I believe him that they'll be more like a stranger thing. Or like Harry Potter. Yeah, yeah. But it'll be some serious moments with, but there's going to be moments for kids because there's kids in it, right? And I think you need those types of shows. And I think that there's a certain times where there's certain shows that should fit those tones.

But I do think there's certain shows. shows that should fit this type. I think Boba Fett should have felt this way, and I think that Obi-1 definitely should have felt this way, depending on what's going on in the galaxy. You're taking away rights from planets, like full-off planets. It's serious. It's not a joke.

Why do you guys feel? And again, I... That pissed in the space monkey isn't here yet. So if we look at Obi-1 and we look at Andor. Yeah. If you would have said, if these two shows, which show do you, like 100, And, uh, Obi-One's like, we're going to put our budget in that show.

Right. And we're going to give you about half of that. How does this show look infinitely more expensive? An easy answer to it. Like, like, it's an easy answer. Take out cast. Take out your, the cash, your payment. It's an easy answer.

Well, that, what is it? Tony Gilroy. Because Tony Gilroy's experience and Tony Gilroy. But Tony Gilroy's not making the props. It doesn't matter. Tony Gilroy brings the, the gravitas to say, come in and say, I need this, I need that, I need this. I'll be able to do this.

And you go, oh, what's your resume? Oh, that's your resume? Okay, we're going to give you the shot. Okay. Okay. It's Debra Chow. Deborah Chow is a very good director. She directed some great episodes, but they gave her a lot for, to handle for her first major project.

And they didn't give her that much. I'm so curious behind the scenes of what really happened with that show. No, look at this. I want to know for real, for real what happened, but you should watch the, you should watch the. How much is that is designed to tell some narrative that they want to tell? Yeah, that's a narrative. Okay, look at this. I don't know.

You worked in reality. I didn't. Perfect example. We're going into two military imperial installations. Obi-1 swimming underwater into that scene where she takes the guy behind the thing. Hold on a second. He takes it behind the thing and he shoots him and like no one hears that. Where's this breaking into this military installation?

Like that, like Steph said, like you said about the costumes, that looked like a high school plays set. And this looked like that's a real thing in Scotland somewhere that they just put a couple imperial design things on there. Let's the easiest way to describe this. Yeah. And tell me if you disagree. This feels like a television drama that you'd find on HBO.

That felt like an animated series. On Disney, yeah. Yeah. Obi-Wan felt like if that was an animated series, if that show was animated, you'd be like, what an awesome show that was. If it was an animated series the same way, but it was shot, it felt like an animated series. A lot of it. Yeah, a lot of the writing.

I liked the show, obviously. I loved a lot of it, actually, but a lot of the writing was not my favorite. Right. This, the writing is so I actually think if the show was on HBO would be doing better. Yeah. Viewer-wise. My analogy to that is like, Obi-1 felt like an NBC drama, NBC show. This felt like HBO, you know, something. Like, that's the pedigree, I would say.

The show just feels more adult. It just feels more adult. And I think, and I get, and as I said, I get that Star Wars need show. Like, what I will say is this. My daughter is watching the MCU and she loves it, right? And she's going to be 11 soon. I don't think my daughter would love this show. I don't think she would love it.

I think that she might like it, but I think she'd probably think it was a little too serious. Right. That's not fun. Like, it's fun for us. No, you're right. I talk to someone who works on these types of movies and very much so was like,

look, Obi-Wan, to me is my favorite of it all. And I can see a lot of people are going to love this one, but this one is not fun for me. And I want fun. Sure. And I think that that's the thing is I don't want it And I understand people like well I want it to be more fun And I think I don't think you should make everything like this because I think that will get kind of like whoa

This is intense I think you need to balance it out But I still think there's a way to do it and make like you got to make the writing better The writing was was not good as Steph as writing was the dialogue was non-existent They had like maybe two lines of dolly log next scene They didn't build the only time they built off you know Obi-1 was my brother this that They didn't build off anybody Kill to have a Tony Gilroy scene and what I wanted in Obi-Man between Obi-1 and Owen. Yeah.

I would kill for a Tony Gilroy right. Yeah. A whole half-hour episode with the two of them. That's what I was hoping for. Do you think he's going to get a deal? Like a bigger deal? I don't think he'll want it. I don't know about that.

You think he'll want to go back into Star Wars? Yeah, I think he's having fun. If he can do what he's doing now, yes. If they put shackles on him, no. No, I think I agree with you 100%. I think he's got a very specific, like he's coming from the world of born. Like, he's got a very specific. thing he likes doing.

Right. Well, that's, that's a good point. It's like, I like doing things like this. I like doing things where it makes you think. Because the reason why I think they will sign it to something where he's going to get another project is because of Star Wars Celebration. At Star Wars Celebration, he set on stage three seasons. I got so many ideas.

And Diego Luna's like, I only signed on for two, right? And he's like, oh, I want to do three. He wants, it seems like he wants to do more. He's having fun. Yeah. And if he's doing, this type of stuff, then I want to see what he does in another. I want to see him do something outside of this time period.

I want to see what he can do. It does remind me, I'll be on it. Now you're saying this. It reminds me of McQuary in Mission Impossible. He's like, I'm doing one and that's it. And now he's going to end up doing four because he's like, I love what I'm doing.

You guys are responding to what I'm doing. They're letting me do what I want to do. Let's go. Well, I wonder now, though. Maybe it is more like that. Okay, okay. And again, from so at the time of this taping, my spoiler review is up on the channel now

and the comments that I did see it does seem like the majority of people, even the people who felt that the previous episodes were either slow or boring seemed to really enjoy this episode. So if it continues to lead this way, which I think that, and I was talking to somebody recently

on that we did the Patreon Q&A and I said to the, I was telling this guy, I was like, yeah, I'm telling you, it's one two punch, one two punch. And now the next, the next adventure starts with eight. Or seven.

So it's like seven, eight, what the hell is? Right now I'm already thinking, what's nine going to be? Because seven, eight are going to build it up. What's nine going to be? So do you guys think, okay, seven eight nine, ten, eleven, twelve. Will ten eleven, twelve, be to the culmination? Or are we just going to, you guys have seen the old man, right? Yes.

No. Okay. I had no idea. I need to. It was seven episodes. I thought it's just, that's it. Yeah, but you know why, though, that happened? I don't.

So from what I heard is that, so you remember Jeff Bridges wasn't, it was, it was, it was, He's ill. Cancer. He beat it. He beat it since, but at the time, he was filming it when diagnosed. Right.

They had to, they had to abruptly just stop. Okay, so I thought, because I'm like, how did they not know this was going to be, that's why?

Season two got greenlit after episode one. And I'm like, so they filmed these, the way it ends, you're like, they've, this, they ended this

and not knowing they were going to get a second season. So they knew they're getting a second season. So with this, they knew they're getting a second season. Are we going to end? Like, the old man,

we're just like, oh, we're midway or is it going to be a definitive like this is it if we never got another season two we're done no because they knew they knew that they were doing two seasons right away so this is going to so 12 is in that may not be like this grand finale i think it'll i think it's going to go back to what step said i think that it will be a time jump going in from season episode one of season two will be a time jump so i do think it'll end definitively whatever because because of the format that they've laid out so far and it's the mission is set up in episode one mission is

developed in episode two, mission is delivered in episode three. Okay. And I, whatever, you know, that mission might be. And I think that that's exactly what's going to happen. Definitely a 7, eight, nine. Now, do I think it's going to end on a high note? No, I do not. I think it's going to end on a dark note.

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Stupid Brad Gilmore last night. Texted me because I'm not an Astros fan at all. He is. I love Brad. I know. I love him too. But, yeah, he really rides for. Well, yeah, but he and I were on the phone for a while last night or yesterday.

I was talking to him and I was like, I had sent him this. thing about Houston, how much, I hate the Astros. I remember it being a funny meme or something, too, and I was very proud of myself. Of course you were. And he was like, he goes, yeah, I didn't write you back on that one. I go, nope. He's like, it really pissed me off.

I go, good. And so last night, they had a, or, yeah, last night they had a, they had a, it was a walk-off home run to win the whole thing. He sent me the video. And then he sent me where one of the Yankees last night, it was, it hits a home, I think he hits a home run. So it's running around the bases, but they caught, but they, but it, but it, but it, bounced off the wall so they threw him out and Brad's like,

hey, he sent it to me and then the Yankees won four to one. I was like, he's pretty silent now. Where you've been? Are you a Yankees guy? No. No. He's not even from New York. Come on, man. Are you not?

Yes. I need you to leave. I don't. You literally just made his brain hurt. I don't watch sports. I don't know sports. Are you a New York Yankees guy? He is wearing Yankees attire.

Where? Half the time we know. Where, Steve? Okay. God! Let's circle back to Mike's comment in which he said, I'm really observing. I notice everything when I walk into a room.

I don't see anything on the walls right now. It is the Darth Vader and the crow. That's all I think. He's always in a Yankees hat or a Yankees car. Where is the Yankees memorabilia? Do I see anything? I look over there. I see New York Giants football thing.

He has a pizza box right there. You racist. Racist. Racist. How's a racist? He's a Italian. You idiot. She said New York.

The Italian. Racist. Are you? Italian eat pizza? Or do you mean stereotype? Whatever. It's a little different. Is it the top gun guy?

Okay. Hey, mamma me, what do you watch a Super Mario trailer? Pizza, you should have done the voice. I would have gone better on Twitter. I would have killed it as that. All right, listen. It's me. I'm going to look at this.

What are we looking at? First of all, I want to say, Nossette for the wonderful, look at the layout. Well, what am I looking at? Yeah, that's awesome. Can you not see it? layout of the studio or that shot of and or. Just go to sleep. God.

Go to sleep. I need some athletic greens. All right. You'll be all right. All right. Let's look at some of the stuff we got going on here. Okay, here we go. Star Wars NewsNet.

I want to see if there's any new reports thus far, and I don't see anything. And what I try to do every single time with this site, where's the new news? Remember we did this last week, Mike? You can find it. You're an idiot.

Thanks, Billy. Just go on the news and click on the little drop-down box. Thanks, Ralph. All right, Jimmy. Thanks, John. All right. So Diego Luna on, and this is more indoor stuff. Industrial Light and Magic building new studio in Mumbai.

That's awesome. It's our peeps over at Star Wars News now. But I don't think there's anything really big going on. I just saw that. It was the Acklelight starts filming type, I think, in the end of the October or September. Oh, is Ashley Extinct. She's the coolest. Yeah.

I don't see anything actually. You know what? I'll do a search. Let's check this out. Akelyne. We'll see if there's anything going on with the Akelyne. Nothing so far. We've got to type up latest news.

Jody Turner Smith. Is that the one? We knew that. Oh, we did that one already. I knew that a while ago. That's nothing. I don't see nothing, Mike. Ackleight and Star Wars News.

That's the last one. Then we're going to call it an end. Yeah, I have one more comment. Sure. Okay. Can I say it? Yeah, go ahead. Okay, so when you're talking about what's the buildup going to be,

is it going to be as big in the next 3-3 arc? I think that's what I find to be the most genius about the way that they're handling Andor is that they're stealing credits. That's not a big deal, you know, like it's not a huge war. And when we're so accustomed as viewers to watch things and most movies are done on big battles, right? Like recently like 1918 or whatever, I feel like they're doing smaller battles and we're seeing how it's done. And how many parts of war there are. It's not just the Death Star. There's so many little things.

And so I do think that they're not going to have a problem if they stay in this tone and pace, making everything a big deal, even if it's not really that big of a deal. Little skirmishes. Yeah. You had something else, Mike? I was just agreeing with her on that. I thought, like, yeah, I think, yeah, you're right. Star Wars, but these are the battles in that war.

And they're not always ships fighting each other. Or battalions of soldiers against you. These are the little pockets of resistance throughout the random, planets that we see and I like the little smaller ones too. Yeah, we don't. And look at House of the Dragon, by the way. You know, so I don't look at it. I don't watch it.

I know you don't watch it. But what I like about House of the Dragon is that they're able. And again, the reason why that show is so good is the writing. Yes. And it's character build up and it's all this stuff because I'm guessing and I haven't talked to you about it. But I feel that you feel significantly different about Vassaris now that you get episode one. A hundred percent.

And that's because of writing. And I think that with, and the, well, not just writing. writing, the brilliant performing by Patty Constantine. Yeah, he rocks. He's awesome. But anyway, but you do stories like that, and that show thus far, and I'm sure there'll be big battles and all and stuff, but that show thus far has been fairly contained and small. And it's about the politics and it's about, and you can say, well, politics can be really

boring. Of course they can, but they can also be very intriguing if you do it the right way. And I think that Star Wars has done that here. And I'm hoping. I'm just hoping that they don't, that they continue to do shows like this. What I hope that they don't feel is that it doesn't fit into this George Lucas philosophy and that it, and that it's different and it doesn't have that feel. I feel that I could feel them doing that.

I know, I know he doesn't give answers a lot of the, you know, has anyone, has there been any talk of Lucas of what he thinks of this? Is he seen it? Like, a lot of times, like, I don't watch this stuff anymore. I don't know. But some of the stuff he's come out and he's like, I don't like what they did. They didn't, like, at the Force Awakens stuff, he's like, yeah, I don't like what they did with it.

From, so I'm curious what he was, rumors are that he was not a fan of that Last Jedi at all. Rumors of the trilogy. Rumors are that he liked Obi-Wy-Wan. Okay.

I mean, not Obi-Wan. Force Awakens. Rogue one, no, he didn't like Force. Rogue one. Again, this is just rumors. I didn't know how factual it is. But the rumors are a new trilogy, not a fan of.

Rumors are that he liked Rogue One. Rumors are that he liked Solo. Rumors are that he loves Mandalorian, but I don't know. Yeah, Mando, like, yeah, because we've seen the most on. And Flonny's his guy. Yeah, so I'm just curious what he thinks of this. I did hear that Amad Best is coming out with a script. It's like the one man shown.

It's like his version of what happened. Yeah, I'm curious to see what it's like. I hope that they bounce back on him the way that they did with Hayden. Yeah, it's not his, it's a character. But it's the, but I don't think they will because it's not. It's not, yeah. It's not the actor. It's the character.

You're right. And they could not separate it. No. Poor guy. You mean, just anyone is an actor. You're saying it's like, I'm part of Star Wars.

I'm going to be the new Chewbacca. Oh my God. And then. Right. They need to like make him a role in like Rick and Morty. He should go in the animate, like the adult animated voiceover. I would say I would go as far as it's not even the character.

It's the design. The way he looks. No, I think you were right the first time. If it was an alien, like yeah, he was the bumbling one of the group. But it's those ears, the voice, the, if you had that character, again, subtitles, man. Yeah.

Even with the same jokes, I think it would have been better. Easily. I'm so shocked still, episode one or two of Andor, when dude, when the one alien is talking basic. Yeah. And I was like, why do I accept this? The one guy was like, you told me to stand behind him. I loved it.

I was like, that, I didn't go, oh, come on, give him subtitles. I thought the subtitles should have worked for when, In Obi-1, when they had, what's his frick? Oh, frack? Frick of frack, whatever is it? The lizard. Zach Bras. Oh.

They just, they just. But that's, but here's the thing. Here's the difference. Here's the difference. But this is why. Let it out, Steve. Let it out. But wait, wait, but look, look, this is, this is why I think, bringing up that character.

So that character, Zach Brough. They brought in Zach Braff because it's Zach Brough and he has, it's like, it's a, it's like, it's a back him to do a voice. Let's just get him to do a voice. You do an alien voice. It would be great. But not thinking, but that alien would probably work better with some titles and work better because it's like, oh, you're okay, Obi-Wan, right?

And it's like, that's, as opposed to, then you have some of it, it's, I don't know, it just doesn't, it's like tone-wise, right? It just feels off. How much does that bring in? How much does what bring? It being Zach Braff didn't do a thing for me. No, no, no, no. But I think the fact that he wanted to do it, it's a name.

Okay. And remember him and Faison, Donald. Faison are really close and they're like best friends. And Donald Faison is a massive Star Wars guy and was in the resistance show and probably introduced him to the world and

so it's more of like hey, come playing Star Wars for a little bit. Not like this is a casting coup. No, no, no, no. Okay. Let him voice a character and they're like, okay, great, we'll just give him like an alien voice. And it's like, yeah, but you're only doing it because it's like that's star power driven stuff. The same problem that sometimes when you go, well, it's a hot director right now.

Like a hot director. Like a perfect example. Flea. Right. Totally out of character. Didn't look the part. Didn't fit. And that's one of the most hated, hated scenes in Obi-Wan. You're just like, that's awful.

And it exacerbates how bad it was. When he's got his, yeah, that shaved head is. But that's also, but that's also, again, as much as I love her, that, that, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a Debra Chow thing. Because that scene is not well-direct. That his performance is not well directed and that should have been something where it's like, all right, you know what? Like, you've seen those fan edits. He grabs her, you can make him terrifying and you cut. You could have cut around that performance and made flea.

The same way you, I like Bill Burr. I was just going to say that. Me too. Bill Burr, I know when he first came in because I only knew him from his comedy. The first episode where he's like, okay. But then that other scene where you got to act and you directed him and that you're just like, oh. You brought it out of it. And he directed them the right way.

Phenomenal. They directed him the right way. So yeah, you're right, directing. I think that the directing and the writing, and you can go back and watch many times over on this show and other times I was like, Debra Chow is going to be, he's going to annihilate this thing.

I was disappointed with Debra Chow's directing in Obi-Wan and storytelling. Like, really, like compared to those two episodes she did in Mandalorian, like she was the rock star. She was like the goat of that season. And I thought it was going to be the best season ever. I did not like what she did with Obi-W-W-W-W. Back to what you said then,

the behind-the-scenes. Yeah. Seeing what she did on Mando, we're like, yeah, this is perfect. Absolutely. I was all for it. So now you're like, was she, was there too many cooks in the kitchen and that's, that's a question that absolutely could and should be asked? And it also is maybe did she need more time to develop as Star Wars creator before you gave her a full show?

Okay. Maybe, or maybe not even her fault necessarily. Should they have stuck to what they were doing? because I was a big advocate of, oh, I love the idea that one director's doing all the episode. Yeah. Right? That's a lot of work. I love that.

Or show running it or whatever. And I said, maybe that wasn't the right thing. Maybe Flonian two movies. Maybe Flonian Favre or someone, they should have done that, and she directed a couple episodes. And I don't know. But either way, this show is fantastic. I love them what they're doing. I want to know what you guys think.

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