The Kristian Harloff Show - Andrew Garfield Denies SPIDER-MAN 4 Rumors. Is he full of it AGAIN?!

Episode Date: January 3, 2025

Welcome back to the Kristian Harloff Show, Capes and Cowls! In this episode, Kristian, Coy and Winston discuss the recent interview Spiderman No Way Home star Andrew Garfield gave wehn he denied being... in the new Spider-Man. We have been down this road beofre so do we believe it? Aaron Pierre discusses the research he is putting into the role of John Stewart in the Lanterns series. Wolverine was almost NOT allowed in the title of the Deadpool and Wolverine movie, how come? Ghost Rider TV show? first look at the Leader? This and more on the show with the crew! #marvel #mcu #dc #dcu #spiderman #spiderman4 #rumors #speculation #andrewgarfield #lanterns  OUR SPONSOR: ROCKET MONEY: http://www.rocketmoney.com/THING  

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Starting point is 00:00:01 man oh man Andrew Garfield I love the dude but he gets put in the position that's not his fault but he says no I haven't heard anything about that as far as Spider-Man for he's a liar and he said as much he said I can tell you that I don't know anything about it and you're still going to say you're not going to trust me and guess what Andrew I love you but I don't trust you we'll talk about that we'll talk about the fact that Spider-Man is still
Starting point is 00:00:31 this discussion of should it be a street level should it be a multiverse thing um there's tons of dc stuff there's that little bit of the batman silhouette that we got in creature commandos so we'll discuss that about what's happening with batman overall uh you got some stuff with um you know now that we haven't really discussed jason momoa as lobo so we'll get into that so there's so much to talk about on this episode of christian harlough show the capes and Cowles edition I'm pretty excited for it I hope you guys are excited for it it's myself it's Winston it's coy let's get into it guys right ladies and gentlemen it's capes and cows it's myself mr. Marshall yeah you know it boy jondros here I'm just kidding
Starting point is 00:01:54 yes he is so we are back ladies and gentlemen it is the show here today and what a what a week it has been to say the least. Say the least to say the least. So what's going on? Koi, how you doing, buddy? Excited. Spider-Man News is always like just hope. Just like the S on a chest. I'm just made of hope.
Starting point is 00:02:17 That's true. Winston, I got to thank you, my friend, for helping Roka and hold it down this week on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. You guys kept the channel going, so I am thankful. I was starting to believe that the only other person that existed on the internet was roka so you know i'm glad to see you two guys i haven't uh feel like it's been forever it's true well so look so coy winston and roca had an opportunity because they had three days to
Starting point is 00:02:43 you know set the record this week so luckily enough they didn't do it any one of those days step and mike did it yesterday at 93 oh yes jesus christ how do i have four shots and i'm still in last place. Yep. Ouch. I mean, at least it's Steph. Like, Steph is reigning champ. So at least if you're going to lose.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And to be fair, it was my first show back. That's also true. And you guys got to talk about Lobo. I'm really jealous. Like, that Lobo news breaking before our show, man. I'm like, that's such downy level casting. Yeah. I mean, look, I can't remember what it was.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And I think Winston and Roke even read it out at one point where they said it's like the worst kept secret. Everybody knew that that was. Momoa making like a celebratory video. at DC being like something's happening. I was like the character you were born to play. Yeah. So anyway, we have a long show today. We have a lot of stuff that we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:03:37 We already got four questions in there. So if you guys want to get some questions in for myself, Winston and Koi on our first show of 2025, make sure you do just that. And as Koi mentioned, yeah, this Spider-Man story. And this is said story. Andrew Garfield denies Spider-Man for. rumors, but he is fully aware that no one is going to trust anything that he says. It's true words.
Starting point is 00:04:05 It never been spoken. Recent rumors have claimed that both Toby McQuire and Andrew Garfield are set to return for Spider-Man 4, but the latter has now denied the involvement. Okay. So previous big screen, Peter Parker's, Toby McGuire, Andrew Garfield, both returned for Spider-Man No Way Home, joining Tom Holland's current MCU Wallcrawler for a multiversal adventure that went to take on over $1 billion worldwide. There have been persistent rumors that both actors are set to reprise their respective roles for
Starting point is 00:04:34 the still-untitled Spider-Man 4, but if plans are in place, Garfield is not about to confirm anything. I'm going to disappoint you. He tells GQ, yeah, no, but no one's going to trust anything I say from no one. Garfield is referring to the numerous times he denied the rumors that he was set to return for No Way Home, only to swing onto the screen alongside Holland and McGuire. Even if Marvel and Sony were considering bringing Garfield and McGuire back at some point, plans might have changed. Several scoopers have claimed to have heard from reliable sources that the
Starting point is 00:05:01 story still hasn't come together, indicating that the script might be undergoing a major overhaul due to differences opinion between Holland and Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feigy. Apparently, the movie is still a long way from starting production because there isn't a financial shooting draft yet. Finalize, excuse me. The movie has a release date of July 24th, 2026 with filming reportedly scheduled to get underway around August of next year, there's time to ensure that these deadlines are met, but insiders believe that delays are possible. Holland also has Nolan's The Odyssey to shoot next year, which could result in scheduling conflict. This wouldn't be the first time. Those involved with bringing No Way Home follow-up to the screen had disagreements about
Starting point is 00:05:41 the project. Previous reports have claimed that Feige and Sony's Tom Rothman clash, with the former hoping to scale the multiverse elements back for a smaller adventure. Rothman, meanwhile, is said to have wanted to capitalize on No Way Home success by bringing McGuire and Garfield back to their respective roles on Peter Parker. More recently, we heard that both studios have settled on a mostly grounded story with some multiversal elements, though the movie was still being described as Avengers-level event up until recently. Here's what Holland had to say about the fourth Spidey movie.
Starting point is 00:06:09 We have the best in the business working toward whatever the story might be, but until we've cracked it, we have a legacy to protect. The third movie was so special in many ways that we need to make sure we do the right thing. It seems like they're still trying to figure out what the right thing is, a number of rumors relating to the story may have been doing the rounds and all of them to believe will be seeing Holland McGuire Garfield's wall crawling joint forces with venom, ghostwriter, black cat, dare double punisher, all set to go against Mephisto, vulture, null, and an army of symbiobias. Hopefully those involved with Spidey Ford will come up with the ideas that suit everyone,
Starting point is 00:06:41 yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. Okay, so there's really a lot here, to be honest, and a few different things, Winston, And I think the first thing that I noticed that we, I don't know, because I don't think we've discussed it on this show, is that we were all convinced it's going to be this multiversal thing. I didn't heard anything that they'd settled on a more grounded story. So that's an interesting thing right there. The other interesting thing, there's like 15 interesting things in this article,
Starting point is 00:07:08 but the two that stood out to me was the one I just mentioned to you, and the fact I didn't know that why are Fige in Holland not getting along? What's going on there? Or not agreeing, I should say, not going on. but not agreeing on what does someone want an even more grounded story does someone want like what's happening there and i think that's one of the things where you know when holland gets to a certain place he's a producer now right he's not just the actor in it he's a producer now and if you want him to come back and you want he's got to have more more say that sometimes that could be a good thing sometimes that could be a bad thing so
Starting point is 00:07:41 yeah what do you make of all of this um i mean a couple of things first of all i'm happy to hear that they've pulled the they've pumped the brakes on going cosmic again if the if you really are bringing it more grounded i mean even if you somehow involve the other two spider men i mean sure but as long as it stays as something it's kind of hard to do that i guess but but as long as you stay with something that feels street level one way or the other and maybe we just had a situation where you know toby's here for some reason whatever then then fine um instead of the idea of the multiverse is going to collapse if spider man doesn't do something that's the one thing we've been asking is we just want to see your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man, which is what they kind of set up.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I think maybe Fikey and Holland have been disagreeing because even if they've come to that conclusion, maybe how they're handling it hasn't gone very well. Maybe there's, you know, I don't know if Holland was super going ho about Venom per se and the king in black and then all of a sudden, you know, Fikey's like, now, but that's not what we're doing right now. Or maybe the opposite. Maybe it's like, Fikey's like, yeah, we're about going to Secret War, so we need to whatever. I wouldn't read too much into it because the one thing that Tom said is that he's not going to pull the trigger on anything that doesn't feel comfortable about.
Starting point is 00:08:54 And I've gotten to a place where I trust him. I trust Figey to be smart about it too. He's never done anything just to do it. I think the only time that that really happened is when he was going to be pushed more into quantity over quality in that Chepec era. So I think that, sure, they're probably disagreeing, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. personally. But, Coy, where do we go with this at this point where if they still haven't locked down a script yet, you know, we even even address the Garfield comments in general because
Starting point is 00:09:23 maybe he is telling the truth that it's like, hey, they had conversations with us, but they don't really know if they want us in the movie right now. But if that's the case and they don't have a script locked up, why do we, are we going to believe that they're going to release this in July of 2026? It seems like that that's going to be a tough thing to do. Yeah. I think the biggest thing is the release date for me is like whether or not that's possible. Also, I mean, what I hope is happening is that everyone is Andrew Garfield.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And I would just lie everywhere all the time. Like I would, if I was in the position of Tom Holland, Kevin Feigey, anyone at Sony, anyone at Marvel, I would actively tell everyone 10 different stories and let people like us talk in circles for a year. Like maybe they're done filming. like I just at this point like I would want as much mistruth out as possible and that way we have no idea like I think everyone's a werewolf and that's how it should be every studio should constantly lie so people don't get scoops yeah I mean look there's I think it's it's probably unlikely
Starting point is 00:10:27 that they're at film right because there's no in the oh no it was being hyperbolic I'm saying I know you're in well we talked about that at one point you thought you and I did think yeah literally you and I had that scenario where we're like what if that's the thing but one of the things that came in to that was the fact that it just be so hard to keep that a secret oh it's impossible in 2025 but i don't disagree with you that even if Garfield is in it he should continue to lie that's the other thing too even though we have said hey uh rumors he's telling a fib we can still say yeah he's he's lying and i think that he is i think he's that never conversations but he should because he got to protect the secret because
Starting point is 00:11:04 what is he going to do what's he going to say yeah i'm in it and then for a year have to dodge it again yeah i the yeah i mean one i think that's smart for him to just just play that off don't don't worry about that but i've been trying to think what tom and kevin could be fighting over is there a world in which maybe like you know tom has said he still loves the role but he's obviously started to grow into other things and stuff like that is there a world maybe where he wants to like introduce um uh you know a successor quicker so like maybe they want to bring in miles but Feigey's not ready to do that or something like that because we do already have Donald obviously playing prowler.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Like that's already happened. And we've kind of seen him also in Spider-Verse. So is there a world where maybe there's this like kind of build up to do that? And Tom wants to pull the trigger quicker than Feigey or something like that? I'm intrigued because didn't like six months ago, wasn't there our first like Kevin Feige mentioning Miles Morales name drop in an interview or something where he said like, you know, went down the line, Miles Morales. Like, it could be. But also, like, even the argument element, that's something I would
Starting point is 00:12:10 immediately want to leak if I was trying to, like, get, uh, uh, mislead people. I would love, like, like, I would, I would leak like, oh, you know, Kevin Faggy and Tom Holland are getting along in the story. What a great way to go, like, pivot and get stuff done. Like I, back to my, my first statement of like, everyone's the werewolf. I would leak something as big as like, man, those guys aren't, aren't agreeing on the script. And that would be, you know, the story as opposed to anything truthful getting out yeah um like that's a big enough like sizz you know like that's enough still i just same thing i think there's just probably too much spy work that we i feel like a lot of this stuff is actually probably accurate that they can't get on the same page i do
Starting point is 00:12:53 but it's just a matter of what it's going to be i don't know i don't know what the story's going to be i still don't know overall what the shape of marvel is so it's even though i'd like to see a street level spider man I don't know where they're going to lead up to how it's going to play into the overall arc of what they're doing in the MCU. I still think that in order, because someone said that they apparently in the contract, you can do a separate Peter Parker story. You know, just bring in Andrew Garfield and McGuire and let them do their own thing for Sony. People will watch it. I mean, maybe, you know, it's going to be, as Coy said last week when we were talking about the Batman movies,
Starting point is 00:13:27 it's that you get more Spider-Man stuff. It's literally the same scenario. Why not have to? It is, but it isn't. Because the reason What's that? Different studio? No.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yes, partially, but that's not my main reason. Because it is part of the same time. It is part of the same story. It is part of this because Garfield and McGuire have interacted in the MCU. Oh, I see you're saying. And it's connected. So you have that audience that it is paying attention.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Like those people have existed in the MCU, even if it is in a different timeline. Sounds like. Yeah, but you can still, given their own story in an else world's thing, for sure. but you just know that they have been there before so i don't know man it's like it's it's going to be interesting in general but we i guess we'll get into a bigger conversation about that with the street level conversation because comic book movie did actually do a whole article on that and this is what they um this is what they said as far as the street level versus the multiverse thing and i guess making making the case for it um all right let me let me bring it up here so
Starting point is 00:14:31 And for people who were yesterday, I mean, every other comment was because I told everybody that I was, I've been out taking care of the family and everything, you know, and it's been, it's been tough. And then I guess it must have been like three months ago. My roadcaster went down. And ever since then, the sound has just been so weird on both OBS and especially streaming. And yesterday, for some reason, somebody's mic or Steph's mic was hotter than ours. And then today, they're saying the same shit. It's like, you know, we all press that button, the equal. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:05 It's just like, it's the same thing. I don't. And then which is fine, people who say, but I saw some guy and made a comment yesterday. He's just like, come on, another sound issue. I'm like this is, and I wrote to the guys, so I said, did me favor, you know, just hire somebody, spend the money, hire them to my place and then hire them for me. And then you can, you can have the engineer. You can have the, you know, hire them for me.
Starting point is 00:15:23 He's like, say, you know, you can't have a sudden issues. I work by my motherfuck and self. I don't have a big. crew I have people I have you guys who host with me but they don't have people to help me so if you want to hire someone to help me hire someone send them on over but I'm working on it today I'm supposed to get on a phone call later on today and I think that I'll probably be able to knock it down at the end of the by the end of the day tomorrow so we'll uh we'll see we'll see anyway so this is the conversation that they were having the Spider-Man 4 should it be a street
Starting point is 00:16:00 level or multiversal tale and here it is so the marvel cinematic universe next spidey film is scheduled to release in july of 2026 would the film be better as a multiverse story or a street level tale rumors surrounding tom holland's spider man four have been widely circulating for months some rumors have claimed it would be a street level story including characters like deer devil and kingpin by other rumors stated that the movie would be a multiverse adventure featuring null or other Spider-Man telling a street-level Spider-Man story and telling a multiversal adventure both have the potential to form a great movie but which would be best let's dive in some of the multiverse pros here and they say venom you could have venom in it it would be in the second movie
Starting point is 00:16:46 he brings up venom here street-level pro a new kind of story which we've discussed many times over we keep seeing the same multiverse stuff it'd be good to get back to the kind of street-level spidey multiverse pro the spider-men I don't know I don't see that as a pro. I see it as it is too much. And then street level pro, Netflix characters. You can bring in Daredevil and those people. Multiverse Pro, Robert Denny Jr., Dr. Doom, down there.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Street Level Pro and identity crisis. Amy Pascal was quoted saying Peter is giving up on being Peter Parker in the next Spider-Man movie while they're having been rumors. Marvel is they're not happy with the script. It doesn't mean Peter won't go through an identity crisis. Technically, this idea could play out in a multiverse story as well. Multiverse Khan, the multiverse itself. yes, agreed.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Street level con disconnect from the MCU. I don't know if that's a con. So this is some of those pros, some of those cons in general, you know, read the whole kind of breakdown of it. But what do you, what do you guys think? Just off the bat, that last con of being disconnected from the MCU, who says? Literally who says, like how many different,
Starting point is 00:17:53 that was kind of what we built this off of, is that you were connected, but you were focused on where you were. like look at say I'm trying to give like a good example maybe Captain America like Winter Soldier like yeah it's connected to the greater MCU but we just focused on CAP we were literally focused on CAP working with Widow to be like dude I think a ghost from my past
Starting point is 00:18:15 is alive and how that affects things the same thing happened with Spider-Man if something happens to New York City and he's the only one that's there that can save it it still affects the rest of the MCU if New York City is in peril so like I don't understand how that is necessarily even a real thing to make that a con. But as far as all those go, I think we're all on the same page that I still think it needs to be street level and leave the multiversal stuff alone, especially because you have plenty of that teed up anyway.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I think this article is a great example of why people got decently mad at me a few weeks ago when I was saying that the best thing D.C. could do is not try to be a one path story where everyone's waiting for the next thing, the next thing, because everything becomes about the post-credit scene of the Easter eggs or the trailer for the next thing. And I think that this is, this whole article reads as that problem. And I,
Starting point is 00:19:06 to Mirwa Winston's saying, the NCU has been able to succeed in doing this story as independent. It affects stuff out here, just like in real life. But I think the expectation, of like, oh,
Starting point is 00:19:17 I'm not going to see that when it doesn't connect. We saw that to scale with the end of the DC EU. When people were announced as this ending, they were like, oh, why would I see those movies? They don't connect to anything because the movie itself. Like I think we need to focus on the two hours that we bought a ticket for
Starting point is 00:19:34 and then the consequences they're in. But we, you know, for 80 of the 100 years of cinema, you didn't make a movie to make a sequel. It was a benefit, but you also didn't make this thing in order for the following thing. Like I want kids. I'm not worried about my grandkids. I'm worried about having kids.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Like it's a really weird way to look at art. So I hope we go back to that with these characters because they deserve their own time. I mean, Cole, you kind of hit it, man. It's the idea also as far as, like, you don't gear up for a sequel, you might leave a thread.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Sure. It's whether or not we're going to pull it is the question. You just leave enough of a thread that if you want to pull it, you can. And we obviously know because of how this franchise of the MCU has been built out that we're eventually going to, but that should not be the focus. I mean,
Starting point is 00:20:20 you brought up Winter Soldier, right? Like, Bucky was dead for 70 years. Like, or like 60, like, Bucky Barnes, the character, died and then a writer a great writer at bruebaker was like what if and then made winter soldier and then winter soldier existed but it wasn't us waiting for winter soldier bucky was dead yeah oh speaking of which uh you know doing the mc u rewatch or um well i'm doing a rewatch and sam's doing it for the
Starting point is 00:20:45 first time and we just recorded iron man three i don't know if i've ever seen a better reaction from anyone in watching it but not you guys won't guess the moment that she has just the two best reactions ever. And it's, I love that movie. Probably, I've come back around on it. Probably Trevor Slattery,
Starting point is 00:21:06 she probably, no, that's not the biggest reaction. That was an airport. I mean, the airplane, monkey, monkeys in a barrel?
Starting point is 00:21:12 No, it's, when Pepper, when Pepper ate it. She was so, she was so upset when Pepper ate it. She was like, no,
Starting point is 00:21:21 she took it as a real, and then when she came back, her reaction on both, but like she, she curses, She hates Loki, but she hates Guy Pearce even more after that. And it's such a great, honest reaction. And I'm so glad that people are checking it out.
Starting point is 00:21:36 It's going to be a good, but it's so funny rewatching them again. Like, especially after the movies that we've gotten over the last, like, two, three years. Like, there's so much more solid. I mean, not those movies. The Iron Man 3 and all those, there's so much better. Like, I still don't love some of the stuff they do. And I mean, I still think it's a great Shane Black movie. movie as opposed to an MCU movie.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But because there's, there's stuff that Tony Stark does in this that is not consistent to the other movies that he was in. And it's clearly Shane Black humor, funny humor. But like, for example, like when, um, the kid says like, well, my dad left. He's like, that's what dad's do.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Don't be a pussy about it. That's such a Shane black line. Tony Stark never said anything like that ever. He's always been snarky, but never, never like that. And that was such a shame. black thing the Christmas side of it all that but it's um but yeah it's it's it's it's still if you look it as a shame black movie I think it's better but anyway um that comes out soon and I am excited to talk about this with the guys we haven't discussed this yet so we're going to do it now jason
Starting point is 00:22:46 um yes officially cast as lobo for the DCU to reportedly debut in supergirls we talked about the other day or Winston and um and roca talked about the other day years of rumors and wishful thinking from fans and Momoa himself. Jason Momoa has been cast to play the main man Lobo. Jason Mamma posted to his Instagram, an image of a quote from himself back in 2023 during an interview he did with Fandango. So Lobo was, I collect comics and I don't do so much anymore,
Starting point is 00:23:15 but he was always my favorite and always wanted to play Lobo because I'm like, hello, it's the perfect role. I said at the time, I mean, listen, if I asked me to play him, it's an F, yeah. I haven't received that call, so I don't want him to put any fake news out there. But if they ever call me to ask to play, asked me audition, I'm there.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And it looks like that's exactly what happened. It looks like he's going to be in a supergirl, a woman of tomorrow, and then they'll probably give him his own movie. So I think that this is easy casting. Yeah, so this is what I'm going to do now in the comment section, for let everybody know. As I said, I'm very aware of the audio thing. I'm going to try to fix it today.
Starting point is 00:23:50 If you comment on it, I'm going to put you in time out. You, Daddy Christian back, bro. I was going to tell you, the idea that, like, obviously, you know, and I'm hoping your wife is doing better, man, but the fact that you're watching the kids, you're in dad mode. And anybody, you're like, we're getting SpaghettiOs tonight. But Dad, I don't, you're getting SpaghettiOs
Starting point is 00:24:12 or you're taking your ass to bed. That's essentially what's going on now. 100%. And it's just like for 100% to where it's like, you know, like people, people just, they want, They want their perfect thing. They want their perfect show. They want all that stuff too.
Starting point is 00:24:26 It's like, I've been dealing with people shitting and throwing up all over the place for days. It was a damn exorcist in my house. So with kids puking them in buckets. So I don't give a fuck about your audio problem. I'll fix them. I'll fix them when I fix them. So you mention them. You're going right in the gosh darn.
Starting point is 00:24:47 It's your store. Kick them out, man. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not deleting them totally. Is it the same thing like the people don't understand. seeing inside you know it's like the free speech I had somebody the other day who was like you guys were so Winston and and Roka were talking about um I don't know like I I don't like when they do it but they get political sometimes and I don't like it I said one thing and it wasn't even like it I don't like Martin Luther King I can't mention Martin Luther King that's not that's not what
Starting point is 00:25:13 you did but that's not but that's fine that's not fine but it doesn't matter I don't like when we get over political however that particular show also called for it inside of the conversation But my point is that somebody was like, when someone's like, well, Winston and Roker are this way on the aisle 100%. And then that same person is like, well, yeah, and Christian is this way. I'm like, you don't know. Don't start telling people definitively what my politics or you don't know anything about me. And then so that person, and I like to put people in timeout because it's fun. And it's also one of these things where it's like, if I put you in time out, it means that I feel comfortable with you as a viewer that we're having fun.
Starting point is 00:25:49 If I ban you, that means I want you off. I don't give a shit if you ever come back. but if I put you in time out and you get sensitive about it then whatever I don't give a shit but that's that's what it is um anyway so let's get into this conversation the I think this is really really good casting it also shows the kind of levels that where they're going to go that I would assume they're going to make an R rated Lobo movie right oh you got you have to I we're leaning that way with DC as it is I mean we've already you know discussed there's going to be levels to this there's some things are R-rated, some things that aren't.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I think this is a great example of, like, if it fits the character, I personally don't need an R-rated Spider-Man. I would have loved an R-rated Craven's last hunt, but that would involve Spider-Man. So that's like, there's a line. An R-rated Wolverine makes way more sense than an R-rated Cyclops necessarily. Like, you need to be able to sell enough tickets, and therefore PG-13 is going to open certain doors. But if a character suits it, I really am glad we're considering that.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And Lobo absolutely suits it. Like, he bought Santa, one of my favorite ever Christmas issues and hooked him to the gut. Like the style of Lobo opens up a really interesting door because he preceded Deadpool. He came out first and was the like irreverently violent vigilante. But I think honestly, this is great news because Tom King had written Lobo in the Supergirl comic initially. And then they changed the storyline. And I'm really curious if we're going to get some elements of like the Snyder cut, so to speak, of Tom King's original ideas for the story. Like what's the more expanded version?
Starting point is 00:27:18 So I'm top to bottom excited for this. I think he's, like I said, Downey, Reynolds, J.K. Simmons, level casting. What do you think, Winston, this? I know you spoke about it at kind of great depth the other day, but this is, like, kind of ideal casting, right? Oh, it's funny because I had somebody unlock a memory for me because they randomly, we were just watching old trailers. And I remember watching the first trailer that we really see Mamoa as Aquaman. And I was like, man, wow, old boy looked more like Lobo than Aquaman.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Like, I remember saying that when I saw the trailer initially. Like, he was born to play this role. Like, because Lobo falls closer to him playing called Drogo. Or not called Drogo. Oh, my God God, God, damn. Who was closer? What? Mamoa.
Starting point is 00:28:09 He's closer to playing, why can I not remember his name all of a sudden? That's a sick brain going on. I mean, he was called Drogo. That's who he was. The name of the character, like, Momoa played the drug. Yeah. This is how I know Sabrina's affecting me because I'm over here. You were right when you said it. We were so right. We didn't know how to
Starting point is 00:28:26 correct you. When you said it like 45 minutes ago, it was exactly I was literally, I literally was sitting here thinking I messed up and I was like, no, that's the Rocky guy. What am I doing? That's Drago. No, you know, you. I haven't Drago. Drogo. You were, you said it right. God, the day quill is already wearing off. All I'm saying is. It's a long road to get back there, but we did it. It's a long road.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And I already did not cut you off. I'm just like, we'll find our way. Yeah, we did it. So Lobo, he is closer to that. And Lobo is closer to Drago than he is to Aquaman, who I'm glad you brought some bad assery to Aquaman. But Aquaman has really been the blonde hair just kind of like, hey, you know, I'm the king. And da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Like, he was almost too badass for it.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And I enjoyed it. But if we're being honest, I was like, yeah. this feels a little bit of miscasting here he he needs to play someone a little more badass not that aquaman can't be badass but he wasn't he wasn't he wasn't aquaman he was jason mammao right right which it was a cool it was a cool version everybody wasn't aquaman i mean that's that's so this this seems like he can actually play the character also you know and how great is it that him as jason memoa made a billion dollars with aquaman and lobo could be an r-rated free spirited like the shackles of even framing it as an aquaman film are now off like the dudes a motorcycle
Starting point is 00:29:52 riding space like he's he's alien jason mamoa and the makeup allows it to look you know different enough that it's not just going to look like aquaman in a motorcycle like there is so much good about this news well there's also good news for everybody else you know why because i'm going to save you some money with financials i'm going to save you that with rocket money i've told you about rocket money so many different times. So many times this whole week, Rocket Money has been the whole reason that we are moving, pushing, and able to even look into trying to get some good sound issues. It is Rocket Money. Ladies and gentlemen, tell you about them. Here you go. I've told you about Rocket Money, guys. And the reason why for Rocket Money was so important is that I, for a long time, I used to do these
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Starting point is 00:32:09 So let's treat it as such. but there's a rumor that DC Studios is developing another animated movie alongside the dynamic duo. Last October, the news broke that DC Studios and Swaybox Studios have teamed up to develop a dynamic duo, which is an animated movie revolving around Robin and Robin. Robin and Grayson and Jason Todd, yes. It's expected to both a unique animation style, likely giving it the same vibe as Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse. Of course, many fans will refer to see you. Dick and Jason in a live action project, although there's been no sort of confirmation about whether
Starting point is 00:32:45 this is DCU or Elseworlds. However, according to the trades, dynamic duo will depict how the friendship between Grayson and Todd's youths, the two youths, became tested by the diverging ideas for what their future should be, reports that the characters will begin as a pair of thieves in the film or false. It's since been rumored that the authority is being redeveloped as an animated project, a smart move on DC Studios part given the success of Creature Command. Was it already supposed to be live action? We haven't gotten any direction with it. Got it. And in fact, it's hard to imagine a movie featuring those characters being a guaranteed hit.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Today, my time to shine. Hello. Brings word that DC Studios is already developing another animated movie besides the dynamic duo. There's no word on what the movie could be. There's every chance as a DCU title yet to be announced. DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn previously discussed his decision to kick up the DCU with the animated creature, Commandos. commandos. All right, well, we can get that. So look, do I believe that there's, they're developing another animated thing? Yeah, sure. I mean, it's, do I do let me follow that up? Do I believe they're developing another live action television show? Yeah, I do. Let me follow that one more.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Do I believe that they're developing some more live action films? Yeah, I do. So I think they're developing everything. Now, the question is, is it going to be announced around the same time also is another question. James Gunn even said when he announced his slate, this isn't all of it. This is what we're announcing right now. So yeah, I think there's more stuff that's going to come out. But, Coy, what do you think? I think as to what you said, like, it's a medium and it's a format within the medium. Like this is very broadly like animation, not live action. And it's very broadly like show or movie. Those are kind of the variables. And video games are being developed too. But this is the thing we're discussing.
Starting point is 00:34:40 So I think it's logical to expand the DC animated universe, especially after the success of Creature Commandos and how popular DC animated films have historically been. So this does kind of feel like, oh, we've got peanut butter, perhaps jelly. Like it's, it's yes. But I don't know time frame because it is really about the script being finished according to every announcement. It's like, oh, this now makes sense to discuss. So I love that we've kind of got to ride this roller coaster of like, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:35:10 no dynamic duo because it wasn't in the initial slate. And then that seems to be decently far along enough to announce. So I'm really enjoying this versus the, let's look at a map of the next five years and know everything that's coming. I think this is a more enjoyable way to us to have conversations about it. Like, oh, this is a potentiality. So I hope we keep getting stuff that feels organic to the creative process versus organic to the suits wanting the bottom line to be art process. What do you think, Winston? I mean, look, like you said, said there some of their best work has been animation i honestly believe outside of say like you know the spider verse films or things like that the dc has fully dominated animation over
Starting point is 00:35:51 marvel like handedly um again i guess another exception would be like exma 97 but again that's that's a more recent sort of um iteration so it would be smart of them to do that i think that the tomorrow verse kind of fizzled out there especially with uh crisis it was fine Um, but I think getting back to, to writing the ship and especially knowing how, again, how successful creature commandos has been. And I think you can typically get away with a little bit more violence with animation. So if you want to save it for series that are going to get a little more nitty gritty like that, I think that that is also a big option you can do there too. Master. Perfect. Um, Corey hasn't seen that yet. Uh, so yeah, we had to, we had to pull it. because the whole, if people don't get that, that, the joke also is because they won,
Starting point is 00:36:43 there are a bunch of people, I guess, quoting Kendrick from the mustard thing. And the first time I ever read it, I just automatically thought it was the Mad Hatter. So to me, it makes a lot more sense. I love this big surge of Matt Hatter popularity. You're like, everybody's watching the house in Wonderland. What a time. Master. That's the one part about us being back on, on Streamyard to do this.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And since it looks professionals, that allows him to throw his memes back in. And he's having a deal all the time. Master. This is back to, I wish I knew. I'm surprised I hasn't made an appearance. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:37:20 My favorite part, though, was when you guys were on it. Luke, who was thanked out for like Monday and Tuesday, was engineering the show. You guys are talking about whatever it was. My daughters were in the room with me while I was watching it, but I was still behind the scenes. You guys didn't know I was. And you guys were talking of American Idol,
Starting point is 00:37:37 and I was quickly taking, pictures like Clay Aiken and throwing like William Hung and throwing them on the on the screen like right in the middle of it and they're like they guys thought Luke did it and Luke was like not knowing what they was like it was pretty fun I enjoyed that anyway so let's let's let's let's move to the next we talked about everything right yeah with the show we got that but just I guess as you talked about with development on live action development on other shows this is this is one that that is very highly anticipated, and that, of course, is Aaron Pierre in the Lantern show, and now we get him commenting on a little bit more, and he's talking about doing the research of the role, and that is on a Virgin Radio UK show,
Starting point is 00:38:25 Aaron Pierre commented on the process of becoming the Green Lantern, John Stewart, including his physical transformation and studying for the role as well. Lanterns is an HBO series featuring Kyle Chandler, as Hal Jordan, Aaron Pierre, as John Stewart, the most notable Green Lanterns. It's expected to release during the summer of 2026, filming is scheduled to start on February 2025.
Starting point is 00:38:47 So even now, it seems like Aaron Pierre is still doing his research for his role as John Stewart during an interview with Virgin Radio UK's The Chris Evans Breakfast Show. Sure. Aaron Peter commented on preparing physically for the role of a Green Lantern as well as preparing for the knowledge of the character. He stated his opinion on the character of John Stewart as follows. So this character has always radiated class.
Starting point is 00:39:08 He's always radiated charisma, strength, identity. So I'm very happy to bring him to life in a live action context. It sounded like Aaron Pierre has a good understanding of the character he's about to be playing. He then gives an update on what he's doing to prepare for the role. What's happening now is my homework, my extensive DC homework and my intense physical preparation. Aaron Pierre is hard at work. A few training videos have dropped of his physical preparation, and it does indeed look to be extensive to add to the DC homework comment he had this to say.
Starting point is 00:39:37 It's comics, it's film, it's top. film, it's television series, it's all of that. It's sort of familiarizing myself with things that I already know and introducing myself to things I'm learning about. Sounds like he's familiarizing himself with the source material massively while also studying past interpretation of John Stewart. This Green Lantern has never appeared in live action before. So when he says he's studying film for the character, he likely means the animation DC movies. John Stewart has shown up in the likes of Green Lantern, Beware My Power. As far as shows go, I imagine he's been watching lots of Justice League Unlimited, a series that grew up on the features, John St.
Starting point is 00:40:08 during the interview Aaron Pierre was also asked to comment on recent quotes from Jesse Eisenberg who played a very different version of Lex Luther who he said he always tries to play the best version of whatever character he's playing to which Pierre replied by saying he was not a method actor but that while on set he tries to
Starting point is 00:40:23 partially stay in character he continues to use whatever dialect and accent his character has even when not filming he also mentioned he continues to try to keep the character specific cult all of this is part of the method of partially staying in character while on set.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And then I just kind of dive into what this is going to be. I think that this is just going to kind of justify what everybody's been saying. Thank God this is the guy that they got, right? Like this, for a lot of different reasons. One, this is, you can tell the intensity. You can tell he's, he also understands where he is in his career right now. There are certain times, it doesn't matter if it's an actor, if it's an athlete, whoever it is, that you get a chance.
Starting point is 00:41:08 to take the ball further than you did the previous season, right? And this is the time where the light is on him, and they're going, what can you do right now? And he's going to go everything I can. So he's diving into it, he's looking into this. It also is a testament to when you listen to, whether it's Frank Grillo, whoever it is, talking about James Gunn,
Starting point is 00:41:32 the kind of excitement that he has brought to the DCU and this kind of new team and understanding that they're the first wave of putting the flag down, if you will. He's aware of this. He understands this. He knows that this is also the first time that this character is hitting the live action for the first time. So, Coy, how do you not want to hear these comments? The fact that he's comparing the gym and comics as his training is exactly my ish, like, as someone who loves the gym and loves reading comics to look like the comics, it's perfect. Like, I've never understood how there isn't a broier contingent of nerds, because if you're
Starting point is 00:42:12 looking at all these jacked people, they go hand in hand. So I love that his prep is equal parts, the gym and reading, and how much passion he has for both, because the physicality of a character is so essential. And I love that perspective on how essential it's going to be for a character that is so different. Like, you're going to be doing aerial work. You're going to have powers, but it's a grounded story. so how do you balance those things out?
Starting point is 00:42:33 But also there's so much history, decades of history with John Stewart to read. So I love that he's invested there as well. So I agree with everything you're saying. It's really special to see these actors like Frank Rillo, like him, so excited about being on the forefront of a new universe, like having David Corn Sweat know the stakes of playing Superman, having this actor know what John Stewart means to people.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And he can't say much, but everything he's saying is what you want to hear for like a, it's got like a teaser trailer. Like I don't want to do too much. But just enough to know what the world's going to be. I'm not wanting to hear too much, but he's saying just the right things in small doses. What do you think, Winston? I mean, I thought he was excellent casting for a reason.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And it was not just from the look of him, but like the skill and the passion he brings to the projects that he's a part of. I mean, again, people know I love to use sports as metaphors. I remember hearing a story once about, because a lot of people may or may not know about Julian Edelman. He's, you know, a potentially going to be probably a Hall of Fame wide receiver for the Patriots who in college in high school, he actually was a quarterback. And a lot of quarterbacks do transition to
Starting point is 00:43:38 wide receiver because they understand routes exceptionally well. They have to as a quarterback to understand what their players are going to do. So then, you know, if they have the speed, they have the hands, it ends up being a good translation. And so I remember hearing a story about how him and Brady occasionally, he would play quarterback and let Brady run the routes. And the same thing, you figure out your timing, you figure out, oh, this kind of happens when I'm doing that.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I think the same thing happens when he's sitting here. Yeah, he could be a gym rat, but to go, oh, I get it. So, like, this is kind of where this motivation is coming from. This is the thing that comes to the backstory. Any good actor knows that you've got to go and read all of your history and figure out where you're going to go on that whole journey. So I think he's going to crush this role and I can't wait to see what he does with it. Yeah, me too. I think that the guy is, there's just some people who just got that thing, right?
Starting point is 00:44:24 And he's got that thing. And I think this is going to be a very interesting role. I'm so, I love the direction. at least the way it's been pitched in this true detective side of things. I mean, I like what they are doing. I really like the whole vibe of what they're doing so far. But, you know, we've got to see the finished product. We shall see.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Okay. We have just a couple more stories that we're going to discuss, and that's why I wanted to tell you guys that we are also available on Apple Podcasts. We're available on Spotify. All these different things are going to get to your questions right now. Winston and Coy, as they do every Friday, putting up a fight here. We're 21 questions already. We're going in yesterday, Steph and
Starting point is 00:45:06 Mike going into the question section. We're at 30. So if the guys get the 30, then they're going to be on par to catch them. Can they do it? Who's going to win the first battle of 2025? Come on, y'all. We shall see. Come on, y'all. Let's set the tone. One of the stories that we did talk about yesterday, but I'll be it a little briefly, was this Batman story. The DCU's Batman looks like one specific actor, but is he the right choice? Interesting. We shall see that. And I just know. that this character showed up here Batman on Creature Commandos
Starting point is 00:45:35 they showed him in this week's episode of Creature Commandos Batman officially made his debut he was technically featured in a previous episode when Amanda Rala was shown a vision of the future in which Batman was dead and impaled on a spike we didn't get a good view of him then as he was almost entirely covered by his own cape but in the most recent episode we see him entirely
Starting point is 00:45:52 huge the DCU's Batman is massive out of all the live action interpretation of the Dark Night what we see Creature Commandos most similarly resembles Ben Afflex hulking Batman, making Batman's first DCU appearance so similar to the DCU Batman is an interesting choice. Could it be that Gunn has found his Batman in a commonly fan-casted actor? Well, disclosure, Batman has only shown for about one second and exactly one shot. There's not a ton to go off.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Speculating about Batman this early could be premature, but Gunn's recent comments, tell us what is shown is very intentional. He said the design team showed him a lot of different material for Batman, and that he wasn't ready to commit to most of it. And they asked to include more silhouettes to keep things vague. That means whatever he was willing to comment to, for example, the size of Batman has to be intentional. Even so, it may be too early to speculate.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Speculation can be fun. It's one actor commonly fan-casted, and that could be Alan Richardson. Alan Richardson is one of the most commonly fan-casted actors for Batman right next to Jensen Ankels. Ackles, excuse me, Glenn Powell, Scott Eastwood, Jake Gyllenhaal, simply Google actors who could play Batman,
Starting point is 00:46:58 and you won't find a list without Alan Richardson. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. There's so much more to this in general what I say here. The first thing is this means absolutely nothing. When it comes to the silhouette of a, because the perfect example of that is, Frank Willow in Creature Commandos, salt and pepper hair, whole thing, does not look like that.
Starting point is 00:47:25 In Superman, does not look like that in Peacemaker. Now, granted, body size is pretty much the same, but the look is different. The idea was to say, hey, Batman exists here. This is Batman. It doesn't mean because he's a jacked monster, it's going to be Alan Ristin. Because I do very much believe that the conversation has gotten more and more serious about Robert Pattinson. I really do. And Robert Pattinson is not a big, huge dude.
Starting point is 00:47:54 He's cut, but he's not a big, huge dude. now that doesn't mean that that robert patinson is going to be the dc u batman it just means that it does not mean um anything except uh they just wanted to show batman but winston do you agree with me or do you or do you think no no no they did this for a reason it's going to be a big jacked monster i mean two thoughts popped in my head first was me saying the same thing everybody's like damn batman jacked but my thought honestly didn't connect to the dc u even though it should have i immediately thought of absolute badman coy i don't know if you in a same spot because I've been reading and I was like,
Starting point is 00:48:29 this crossover? Did we, did I just try it? Not like, what is happening right now is just where my head went one way or the other? But I agree with you. I don't think it necessarily means anything, let alone the fact that like, if you look at say the Dark Night Returns, Batman in that world wasn't as jacked as he was, as old man, Bruce Batman in that case previous before that.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Like he kind of put on hell of muscle and whatnot. So, you know, it's fine. I'm not going to read too much into it because it was a silhouette. And it was also a flashback. So the other thing that I think we'll probably end up happening in Peacemaker one way or the other, even if we, you know, hop dimensions. I think we're going to start to get this idea of, you know, memories and flashbacks can't be trusted.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Like, and maybe that was it. It was like, oh, and then there was this hulking figure of Batman. The number of different times we've had storylines where a villain is describing Batman one or the other. Then he was this giant Batman, literally. Like, he was huge. I don't think it's anything to worry about. I mean, Coy, what do you think as far as, you know, silhouette? And I always preface this to say, too, Coy doesn't know shit, even though he's on, you know, the D.C. You don't tell him anything. I don't know about Batman, which hasn't been like, yeah, we've got an announcement of Braven the Bowl. That's as much as I know. I think that the silhouette is
Starting point is 00:49:55 Winston brought a really good point just now with the cowardly lot. Like suspicious and cowardly lot is a whole thing about the criminals of Gotham, and that's why Batman takes on the mantle. So I personally think his silhouette being reflected in the henchmen seeing him is a really cool take. I like that idea. We don't know how big he's going to be. That said, if they want to keep the Batman separate, which I personally hope they do,
Starting point is 00:50:20 I love the idea of that Batman being a smaller Neil Adams, like regular size guy and then a big boy over on justice league so when he's standing next to erin pierre six fourness and david corin sweat six fourness like i think he needs to be a bigger dude so he doesn't look he's already the only guy without superpowers the last thing you want is for him to be like you know uh uh j qualls like you don't want him to look tiny next to these big boys so well i do i do have one question that i guess ask myself is that when will the new Batman be announced? I wish I knew.
Starting point is 00:51:00 There it is. We waited for the right time. George Clooney confirmed. And what a perfect time to do it with George Clooney. Who knows now? Who knows with what the hell's going on? Batman is going to... The thing is, and I think that we all agree on this too,
Starting point is 00:51:16 even though right now they're not ready to announce Batman. They're focusing on Superman. When it is time, the Batman is going... to take over the new the comic news cycle as far as when it ramps up of who it is then when we finally find out who it is then what the actual movie will be who's going to direct it that's why they're waiting because Batman is he's a rock star you know it's like so when when Batman like I remember when Ben Affick was announced it was like this huge major story that was like they took over everything and so
Starting point is 00:51:54 So the last thing you want to do is have anybody talking about Batman right now when Superman hasn't even come out yet. You just like you do that afterwards. You hope you cross your finger and you say let's hope this thing hits in the way that we wanted to because then you got two rock stars on your hands. Right now you got, you know, someone who could be a rock star. He's got the potential to be a rock star, but you got to get him, you got to get people to buy his album, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:22 How great is it then right now in this? conversation today. It is the year of Superman and we have that amazing trailer end off the year and we're excited. We have Aaron Pierre just starting to be able to talk about Green Lantern and we're excited just from like him in Rebel Ridge and him as an actor and the things he's saying. And then because of the Batman glimpse a second in creature commandos to establish Gotham by way of Dr. Phosphorus, we've already got this whole conversation that feels like a universe forming before our eyes. That's so unique. And to be honest, I'm appreciating that. Like I loved the way the MCU did it because that's the way they had to do it. It was like, maybe this will work. Maybe we can do a shared universe. And we had these things come out. But I love that this feels like an already built out thing. And we get to discover it in real time. It feels, I don't know, it feels like a game. We're like, I'm finding new levels in. It's, it's fun. Like as a reporter, this is fun. Yeah. So we'll find out more about it. Like I said, I think, I think even though Supergirl was going to come out, I still think Batman, the news of Batman will start to come out around that time. After.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Superman's rap we're going to start getting more about Batman but it'll be probably I think Roka said it and I think he's right I do think that we'll get an announcement of who Batman is but it'll probably be towards the later half of the year if not the end of the year but we'll see what say you guys what do you think what do you make of all this right last story before we get to your comments and this is Deadpool and Wolverine star Ryan Reynolds reveals why they were almost stopped from using Wolverine in the time title. Deadpool and Wolverine star Ryan Reynolds has reflected on the complicated process of making the movie reality, including a legal issue, we've almost barred them from mentioning Wolverine
Starting point is 00:54:04 in the title. Deadpool and Wolverine was one of 2024's biggest hits and a movie that went a long way in restoring faith in the MCU after a somewhat hit and miss multiverse saga. Rather than bringing the Merck with the mouth into the MCU or Earth 616 to be a little more specific, it celebrated 20th Century Fox X-Men universe and franchise like Blade, Electives, Electives, and Fantastic Four. Of course, what truly made the R-rated Blockbuster Excel was the return of Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. Talking to Indywire, Deadpool and Wolverine's director, Sean Levy,
Starting point is 00:54:34 and writer-star Ryan Reynolds were asked whether Deadpool versus Wolverine was always the plan. I must have pitched Kevin a dozen, maybe 16 Deadpool movies, a Sundance Deadpool, which was like a road trip with Margot Martindale shot on no money, no special effects needed, just character. Reynolds explained, I pitched Deadpool is Hunting, the hunter who shot Bambi's mom, finds him and they fall in love, become like Butch and Sundance, and of course I was told we don't
Starting point is 00:54:58 touch Bambia at Disney and rightfully so. The actor confirmed that Deadpool versus Wolverine was a possible title for a time, something Levy elaborated on when he said the title was Deadpool 3 for a long time. Then it was going to be Deadpool and friend, and we had a late in the process epiphany that the arc of the screenplays that they are pitted against each other until eventually and frankly for audiences satisfying or joined enough, so it's versus that transitions into And for some reason, we weren't allowed to use the name Wolverine in the title. Reynolds said, I have no idea why some weird loophole thing, but at the last minute, we changed it to Deadpool and Wolverine.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And they somehow pushed it through. But a lot of times, it's persistence. We were told we couldn't use Blade or Gambit. Levy added a lot of things started with, no. Not because they were micromanaging, but because the lawyers down the hall said, that's not part of the deal. And yeah, we were hopefully respectful, respectful hammer.
Starting point is 00:55:53 hammers. But for sure, we were hammered. If we felt that something was right for the story, it became we had to have it. It was a little bit relentless. So it's clear that these remarks that even after the Disney Fox merger, bringing these characters together was in a simple process. It's a shame. Reynolds didn't talk more about why Wolverine couldn't be included in the title. And we can't help but wonder what legal issues that could mean for Marvel Studios' future X-Men plans. What it means to me is what we keep hearing about is that the reason why they haven't been able to introduce X-Men until a certain year. I think that they probably, when they were making this movie, like, no, we can't do this because our deal goes up until
Starting point is 00:56:30 2025, 2026, or whatever the hell it is, and you can't do that. And then they're like, okay, wait a minute. Technically, it says this. Could we use the name in the title? Technically, I guess we could. So then they found a way about it. Or we might have to pay X amount of dollars in order to do that, but it's not as much as we were going to break the contract and do a new Wolverine or something like that. So it goes back into the whole conversation that we were having about like the Spider-Man talk. What's in that contract that says, can they use Peter Parker? Can they not? There's so many tricky things in the same way like, well, you can't use Wade. Can you? Well, you can, but you have to use Wesley Snipes. Or you have to, or you can't do this. Or you can, but you have to use Jennifer
Starting point is 00:57:08 Gardner, if we're going to do it at this point, because that might be the deal that they had with Fox in the old regime, right? It's that you can't use any of those characters yet, but if you do, you've got to use Jennifer Garner or you've got to use you know Wesley Snipes so I don't know Winston what do you do you see the same kind of legal thing there yeah I mean it's part of my my concern one way or the other as to why we haven't moved forward with the X-Men quite yet I think we were talking about this that we had until 2025 that there had to kind of stick with certain characters
Starting point is 00:57:39 so I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo that was like locked up in there that you just couldn't do certain things but all that being said, we got one hell of a movie. And we got one, one insane, like, not an homage to what was 20 plus years of, of, you know, good, bad and ugly, you know, films out of Fox. So it is what it is, but I, I am glad that they were respectful hammers as they, as they, you know, so aptly called themselves, to be honest. Yeah, Corey, do you see this as more of like yeah that this fox deal will soon you know hit the date that it's supposed to hit and then all hell's going to break with what's crazy to me is even with a merger of studio it seems to me like
Starting point is 00:58:28 there's contracts that are like we've got a five picture deal with this actor even if the studio goes away this actor is contracted to play this character so i think 2025 from what we've heard it's just the rumor of the number but it seems to be like that was the expiration point of maybe the full ending of fox or the full ending whatever those contracts were with the merger so i do think the floodgates are about to open, but it is interesting that while they're developing this, you know, 20, 20, 23 or however long, whatever that journey was, it was this kind of, you know, lawyer battle. And that's, I could never imagine being an IP lawyer at that scale with characters like this and between a studio merger. That must have been so exhausting. So I'm ever more appreciative
Starting point is 00:59:08 of Deadpool, Mulgrain existing because of the insanity of the behind the scenes we hear. Yeah, it's like, it is, it's the legal jargon. I remember even when being at Warner Brothers and like certain things that they wanted to clear and I remember that there are certain names and you know what's hilarious is that so I saw a Nora recently right and you guys both see it yeah I haven't I haven't seen it yet yeah I like a lot
Starting point is 00:59:30 I think we talked about it a little bit coy and I said like the first like the majority of that movie is hilarious so like when you see when you see it nominated for comedy I get it like but the the very end of it it's clearly not a comedy but the majority of it is a comedy however the first like 15 minutes I'm like oh they're just basically doing Pretty Woman
Starting point is 00:59:48 because Pretty Woman was I don't know if you guys knew this, but it was a drama. It was a, the name of the movie was called 3,000. And before Disney got it, it was a dark comedy. There was a dark drama about, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:06 prostitution and all that. And at the end of the, at the end of the movie. And then, yeah, Julie Roberts is like addicted to cocaine and stuff. By the end of it, Richard Geer dumps her out on the street and takes off. It's not, it's not, it's not what we got, right? So, but then that quickly changes. That quickly changes fast.
Starting point is 01:00:28 But I was curious about it. And I said, after I saw that, I wonder what that original script of pre-women is even floating out there, right? And it is. And I, and I looked at it. It was fun. It's hilarious is that the character of Richard Geer, his name in the movie is not, what's his name? It's Edward Lewis in the in the actual movie they made. But in the
Starting point is 01:00:50 PLD is going to love this tidbit. His name was Ed Harris in in the movie. The reason I bring this up, there's no fucking way that they're going to get a clearance of a character his name being Ed Harris. There's no clearance. There's no way. And so that goes up. The first thing that they say is like, hey, yeah, okay, you guys can change everything you want to do here. This guy cannot be Ed Harris. Change his name to Ed Lewis. You can't. Ed Harris and that's probably exactly what happened. So that kind of stuff that I think is very interesting that that that that's that's the kind of stuff that happens.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Like you can as a creator say, well, that's the guy's name. It's Ed Harris. Bullshit. You know, it's a legal team. Not here. No, not unless you want to pay this. I mean, you start paying money for it, you know, so that's, um, it's very interesting. Uh, anyway.
Starting point is 01:01:38 So that's it, guys. Thank you for sticking around for this part of the show. we're excited to get to your questions and we got a bunch so far but before we do real quick Winston what's going on in your channel yeah so later today my best of 2024 movies will be coming out I'm very excited to put that out there I'm most excited about the fact that I got the call from my mother-in-law that the computer came which means it should arrive here either Sunday or Monday morning so that means I can finally get in there and get back to work once I've got the computer all set up, I'm going to do a live stream to kind of announce what's going forward with
Starting point is 01:02:17 the channel scheduling and all that kind of awesome content that I have coming up. So if you haven't already, please go over to YouTube.com slash the slaggy blurred and also follow me on other platforms as well. But I am very excited to get started off my 2025 strong. But for now, come check it out today. My best of 2024. You can find me on my page today. I'm dropping my most anticipated at 2025.
Starting point is 01:02:38 I just put up my most, my favorites of 2024. I did two parts. I do a 24, 2024. I did a 23, 2023, et cetera. So 24 to 11. And then I top 10 favorites of last year, two videos on my page. Also covering creature commandos that just dropped last night at midnight. So today, part one, 25 through 11. And then tomorrow going to be doing my top 10 most anticipated of the year. And I did by 33 videos I dropped in December. So tons of stuff over there. And January, I'm going to rest a little bit more. So I'm going to do like three or four videos a week. But I'm also going to sleep a little. Well, yeah, it was one of the things I was. supposed to do obviously during that break what or you know the whole thing when I was
Starting point is 01:03:16 taking care of the family was I was supposed to do most anticipated I was supposed to do my best of I haven't done either so the they will be coming up soon okay guys so yeah like I said yesterday Steph and Mike going into this had 30 questions you guys sit at 27 so okay that's the start can you hit you got to hit 93 in order to defeat them to I believe in y'all and real quick before we get to the questions you know give people time to throw some more in there for show
Starting point is 01:03:49 coy I just what did you think about the doctor phosphorus like origins or just holy crap oh dude I love that episode so much I won't but I'm just just just his thoughts just off the off the rip it was beautiful to see Gotham I was hoping as you it's not a spoiler you've seen one second of Batman but it was beautiful to see phosphorus get his due and also the cinematography of that episode is some of the best Like the actual visual language of that character, like episode six, episode four and six, I think are my two favorites. Dude, that, that and the fact that I really loved the throwback to Batman, the animated series by a particular, uh, uh, character that showed up.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And I was like, oh, this is like if you did make that character rated R because, oh my God, that is way worse than he was in a cartoon. All right, let's start this off here. We got Ian Davis is the first one with Christopher. Nolan set to direct the Odyssey got me thinking would it be possible for him to direct in another superhero film which superhero do you three think would be best for him to direct in his style well let me let me squash this before we even start because I literally just someone just tagged me on this video which is interesting they said it was a Christopher Nolan rapid fire thing and one of the things they asked him was would you ever do another comic book or superhero movie and without even
Starting point is 01:05:09 hesitating he said no um however they said would you ever do a star wars film he said pass ha interesting he's so he didn't he didn't answer the question um on that one but he definitely said no on that but i i mean for me i'd want to see him do something similar to what they're doing with um what's what's the what's the what's the one that they're doing the clay face i'd like to see him do something kind of smaller i if he was going to do it i was going to say maybe the question i think just being because he's very good at weaving a mystery and, you know, Abrams talks about, like, the surprise box and all that.
Starting point is 01:05:46 He's very good at, like, kind of leading you down something and all of a sudden, surprise. So, like, I think if you were going to do that, something like a question would be great. But, yeah, I'm sure as much as his movies are loved as far as, you know, the Batman trilogy that he did, people were also all up in his ass because it's Batman of all characters. So like I'm sure he doesn't want the smoke. I'm sure he sees the writing on the wall of how people are treated doing comic book movies. I don't want to do that. By the way, real quick, I couldn't chime in and from the back with start disagreeing with you.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I disagreed with what you said the other day about Bill Scarsgar. I like, what was wrong with this comment? He said, I know I've got a good joker in me. He's like, he knows how to pull it up. He knows he's got enough. He's got enough in there. He's like, I know exactly how I would, how I would approach that character. I get it. It was however it was directly phrased. I was just like, bro, what, essentially,
Starting point is 01:06:43 quite what it was, is however he said it, I mean, it tell me like, yeah, I got a great joker in me. And I was like, bro, you sound like you about to go kill somebody. Like, chill out, bro. You could be like, I feel like I would crush playing the role versus like, yeah, I got a good ass joker in me. I didn't, I didn't get, I didn't take it that way. I got, I took it, I took it as far as him just saying, yeah, I just know, because this is a guy who's played penny wise. He's played no spratu. He's played all these characters. You're like, yeah, he, he, And he's got, he's got it. He knows, he knows how to do it.
Starting point is 01:07:11 He didn't say, oh, yeah, I was, I was looking at somebody online at a grocery store, looking at how I could chop them into pieces going, oh, yeah, I know I'd play Joker. I would, I would blow that person's face up. I, while we're talking about it, I honestly think Scars Guard would make an amazing comic accurate Joker. And I love that we've had some different takes, but we really haven't had like the clown prince of crime yet. Like we've had Jack Nicholson.
Starting point is 01:07:37 he's punk take we've had like i would love to see six foot four comic accurate scars guard he was so good in john wick he was so good in that movie he was so good he's like and and he's great in those for he's great and everything but he's but there was something about like that sometimes like all right so let me give an example of like juno temple who is just an amazing actor i love her i love her so much and and she would tell us her for for that man wasted in venom right this is two great actors wasted in it that you we all say anybody could have played those roles and you didn't have to spend the money to waste two great talents. Now, if there was a bad performance or he or in John Wick 4, that character was wasted,
Starting point is 01:08:21 like, what the hell did you need Bill Scarsguard for? Anybody could have done that. But Bill Scarsguard made that such a role to where you're like, oh my God, look what he did with that role. And you're like, it was so memorable. He was just as memorable in that movie. And he could have been just forgotten like oh yeah he was the villain and that I remember he was so memorable because he was just so great and my answer to the Nolan question is I would not touch another superhero film if I was him either but
Starting point is 01:08:45 I would love to see him do a new gods movie I think he'd crush the new guts and last quick thing like if you remember though I didn't say that I thought that he would be bad I thought he would crush his joke no no no you didn't just the way it was presented I was just like I guess I that was the I didn't mind the presentation of it but no you didn't you didn't see anything
Starting point is 01:09:02 against oh I thought he would kill it he's fantastic Crashing Coyote. Very important question. Who wins in a fight to the death? Jeff Schneider. Versus Jeff the Landshark. They shoot bets now. Easy.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Jeff Lanshark all day. Sorry, Snyder. That's not even, bro. Jeff would tell you the same thing. You ever see him box? You bowl beat the shit out of him. You guys ever see that footage? I forgot that was him.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I saw it before I knew Jeff. So I saw it when it was just a guy getting his butt kicked by you bowl. I give Jeff all the credit in the world getting in the ring with him. He got in the ring with him and he fought, but he got his balls kicked then. That's, I did not see that. I'm going to go look that up now. It's on there. You can find it.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Like, yeah, Jeff Snyder boxed UBow for, I guess he said something about his movie and Yuval challenged him in the ring. Jeff goes, I'll do it. And he got in there and he just got his ass beat for. Dude, look, as much rivals as I've been playing, Jeff Lanchard's going to do that, that ultimate and just spit him off a cliff. All Things Super. Are you worried about the Superman screening rumors?
Starting point is 01:10:03 I will say, not at all. You had me the first half. I'm not going to lie. Not even in the slightest. To where I just disagreed with Winston, I agree with them thoroughly of what he said the other day
Starting point is 01:10:16 about the screenings, is that every screening is meant to get notes. You get notes and you say, okay, wait a minute. This is what they like. This is what they didn't. Because for the people that said that they didn't like it,
Starting point is 01:10:31 first of all, how do I know I agree with them? How do I know it wasn't Bibiani that said that? I don't agree with anything, Bibiani says. How do I know there wasn't him that saw? And then there are people who loved it. What are those people that I saw, that do agree with me? So test screenings, I understand their purpose, but I don't start to say, uh-oh, look out. Let me hear that.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Now, the initial, and Winston said this the other day, too, press screenings, because that's a finished product. So let me start to see. And that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be accurate either, but they're watching a finished product. but um koi i know you're terrified about these screenings right oh i have lost sleep every night about imaginary screenings that someone could have typed and said existed if there was ever a movie to have people lie about it's this one and uh i honestly i've never cared less about other people's opinions in any genre of any medium like i don't know why people are so invested in other people's takes um but i i personally think if there was ever a take it's an entire
Starting point is 01:11:30 army of people that are going to just type stuff about this one site unseen i don't know of any screenings that actually happened so until i hear of them and there of uh people that i care about their opinion of i don't think it's going to happen but until then when it's released i'm going to see it myself it's i'll be honest coy the only reason that like i don't care but the only reason that it's something to pay attention to is just the fact that the the adage of you know the law uh nobody will believe the truth and the lie is more entertaining if you If you sit here and you smear it this whole time before it gets there, that is something that's concerning because then you've just put this
Starting point is 01:12:05 horrible kind of thought out of the ethos. But again, the point of screenings now, as I said yesterday and Christian just reiterated, is to get your best final draft done. You are trying to get notes. And the movie's out in seven months or six and a half. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:22 That means nothing to it. Go pal, running behind. Here's some support. Thank you, Go, pal. Always a tremendous, tremendous supporter. and really really appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Rock and roll movies with Tyler. T. The Man. What up, buddy. He's been a member for two months. Thank you. Hey, y'all. So interesting 2024 music list, Koi, have some recommendations, but stay tuned for YouTube posts. Sweet.
Starting point is 01:12:44 I put out my favorite albums of 2024. For the first time, I've never talked about music online, but I thought I'd dabble. So please, let me know, Guy, on my video. Smart. Simon section. I would rather have seen the lie Matt Smith said he wasn't in Rise of Skywalker. But he, but he was.
Starting point is 01:12:59 That was the whole thing. And I remember I said, I said, he's lying. He was lying. He was supposed to be a, like, he never truly confirmed it. But he was supposed to be like Young Palpatine or something. But he was cast in a certain role. He was going to be in it. And he talked about it on Josh Harwood's a show.
Starting point is 01:13:14 But he was, he was supposed to be in the movie. Okay. So next one, Mr. I crap and shit. Solo crap and shit. Happy New Year's guys, whole ball as well. Roka and Winston, they held the fort down very well. You can count. on the DEI crew.
Starting point is 01:13:31 I kid. Have a great weekend. He's kidding. Real nice. I didn't even see that at the end. All right. Well, you caught me on that one. Heroic hideaway.
Starting point is 01:13:43 I'm enjoying creature commandos, but I feel it would have been better cut as an animated movie instead of a show. What do you think? Keep up the great job. My only pushback to that is we have allowed a lot of these episodes to
Starting point is 01:14:00 stell to tell the origin stories of these characters. If you do that to make it a movie that people are going to sit through, you've got to cut a lot. And I liked spending time with Dr. Phosphorus, with the bride, you know, with Weasel to really know why they're so misunderstood.
Starting point is 01:14:17 So I got to push back and disagree a little bit on that. I couldn't disagree more. No disrespect. I just, I think the movie idea would make it feel like one thing and this feels great and serialized like a comic book. As Winston's saying, each episode feels like an issue and that's because of that.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Plus, I mean, binge culture has ruined people's attention spans as it is. I think long form, we need more of it, not less of it. So I really like the show format. I agree. Okay, let's see. So we all know that Winston is a huge Dodgers team. Exactly. What's his hope for them this year?
Starting point is 01:14:51 He doesn't know anybody on the team. Also, who do you guys think is at the Super Bowl this year? Lions? We'll let Winston answer about the Super Bowl. first because then he's going to come up with some bullshit story about the Dodgers. Like he actually knows who they are. You got to love that nobody actually ever listens to the... Why did he leave?
Starting point is 01:15:13 He's going to go play for the Dodgers. Why did he leave? We were in the middle of a conversation. It's crazy. What a weird choice. I like that this looks like Sports Center, too, in the back where he's gone. Why don't you leave, Winston? Come on.
Starting point is 01:15:22 He's supposed to be... I'm sorry. Just go ahead, please. You know, he's just dodging his answer. That's the best Dodger impression he can give. He's just, frankly, he's out. I'm messing up the shot. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mess up the shot.
Starting point is 01:15:37 So as far as the Super Bowl goes, I think most likely we're going to see probably the lines. And honestly, I still don't have any proof that anybody outside the chiefs are going to do it. All those other teams are good. I just think that the chiefs are on a mission. They're trying to go out here and break history. I would have given the Eagles a shot, but now I hate them more than I've ever hated them because you're not going to let Sequan go get this record. I am still fuming about that.
Starting point is 01:16:05 I've hated them even before that. But, you know, so let me, I don't know, this is, you know, a lot of times, you know, when you're watching a movie or a TV show and there's just a certain actor, for some reason, bugs you. And you don't know why it is. It's like, they didn't do anything. It's like, you just said, that person just bugs me. Mahomes is that person for me.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Really? Because that's how I've always felt about Brady. Yeah, I don't know what it is. He's like, I see him on those commercials with Snoop and I go, get the guy out of here. I don't know why. And there's no, there's no, there's no merit to it. It seems like a nice guy. I just don't, he does, he does,
Starting point is 01:16:38 kick in. When did that kick in? Because is it, is it, is it everything else around him? So is it the idea that, like, his wife is pretty annoying and his brother is annoying? Don't even know who they are. Never, you wouldn't,
Starting point is 01:16:47 pick him up out of a lineup. I don't know what it is. Just annoys me. Don't know what it is. That's fair. I like Mahomes. I, but I think it's,
Starting point is 01:16:55 I think it'll be the chiefs and the lions. And as much as I would love to see that for the lions, I just think. the chiefs are going to i think the chiefs are going to make history honestly yeah i know kendrick is going and that's all i care about i hope i hope dochi is also there that's my that's my my pipe dream is that doche opens for kendrick at the super halftime show but otherwise there's just people playing football but there's a kendrick concert in the middle you'll be watching for the trailers um so i'll be working and then kendrick concert and then back to work that's right um all right
Starting point is 01:17:25 36 questions right now, guys, 36. Pete Parker, 2288. Chances we see a Penny Parker movie slash show. I can confidently say I have no idea. I think it'll all depend on what Sony wants to do after Spider-Man-N-War. I think Spider-Man-N-War is kind of like an opportunity to see if that works as like expanding out. I think eventually, but I think we, you've got to figure, like Coy said, you've got to figure a lot of stuff out right now. And I think that Penny is low on that totem pole.
Starting point is 01:17:56 If anything is closer, it's, again, Miles. That you've already really established him as, as, you know, an MC and his direct connection to Peter. So we just got a, I think you just got a way, Penny's way down the line. Wait, Lyons is Detroit, right? Yep. Oh, so Eminem would be in the stands while Kendrick. That is just, that's a great, what a great concert. So you're going to love it.
Starting point is 01:18:20 All right. So Joe, a show. Mamoa is Lobo. But will dog show up? Hope so. What is that? Is that someone from the comics or nothing? I think he's talking about, like, Lobo's got a dog at times.
Starting point is 01:18:34 So I think that's what he's referring to. I'm curious if eventually they get to his daughter showing up, if Crush shows up. Because Crush has been really popular lately. But priority one is, you know, I think Lobo is just going to crush. If I remember correctly, dog is like this giant, like, bulldog that is, like, supposed to be the antithesis of crypto. So the same way that Lobo was constantly annoying Superman and, you know, and them kind of having their scraps, dog is just just like ugly ass bulldog that just him and him and his name was dog. Thank you, Winston.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Like that's why my brain went like dog. Like you're right. Like DWG dog. And horrendous looking like slobberant. Yeah. Thank you. So it's so it really is kind of like a Deadpool thing. Oh, and he proceeded Deadpool a bit.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Okay. Marcus Longoni. I keep seeing the report that soups are worrying. Any truth? Same thing we just talked about before. By who? Like, who's really saying that? Like, you know, it's not to say that it's not true, but by who?
Starting point is 01:19:33 There's been so many movies that have been doomed before they began, and then they turned out good. I remember people saying, I'm hearing that Wonder Woman's not that good. And Wonder Woman was great. There's a lot of reports that a lot of people say aren't very good. And then it's worrying, especially a movie at that caliber. So, you know, I'm not, I'm not worried about it, and I don't think you should be yet. Literally until you get to the press screenings and even then you hold your, you hold, you take it with a grain of salt until you see it with your own eyes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Because I told that story earlier this week, Coy, hold on. Excuse me. I agree. I knew somebody who was working as a low level producer on Abbott Elementary who was like, yeah, the pilot's great. But then after that, the next three episodes are trash. The show will never make it. How many Emmys is this thing already won and killing it in season four and has this awesome crossover coming from always sunny now? Like people talk about it.
Starting point is 01:20:32 See it yourself. Will the question is, will the movie be good? I wish I knew. Armada. Genius movie pitches. Mark Wahlberg returns for Boogie Nights 2, where he struggles to renew his blue chew subscription. I would, I would say Joy Mode, Joy mode. I'd watch boogie nights too joy mode boogaloo all day he'll never do it he he regrets doing that
Starting point is 01:20:59 movie oh he's all like jesusy now he got his like tattoos lasered off and he's all like oh what yeah that's why he works with bell gipson so much long time ago long time they christ bros ruby bands scratching my ear ruby bands did you guys hear that coy was cast as green hour in the in the in the dc u also thoughts on ben afflick as dc u two face i know that at one point um um James Gunn said that he was talking to Ben, they want to work together, just got to find the right project. I don't know if that was just politics, or if, you know, maybe they will actually do something together.
Starting point is 01:21:35 If Ben Affleck comes back to work at DCU, I think it's the direct. I don't think it is to be in it anymore. Probably not. And if he does, it won't be anything major. It would be a cameo situation. I don't think he wants to be in the middle of all that. And you can't do that again.
Starting point is 01:21:50 I think Mamoa works. He's some makeup. and he's also the character don't start don't start doing that with everybody i understand that you can do it moa but don't start bringing back everybody because then it's like because then you're going to catch yourself into some crap it's like why just recast henry like if you're going to do it i would say if you're going to put uh ben in it at all make him like thomas wayne and make it that kind of like nod cameo type situation where where you see him do something like that if we ever really get to spend time with like thomas and martha that could be like a really interesting thing to have him do in
Starting point is 01:22:20 that regard and then push comes to shove if we get way way way down the line and we somehow do like a legit flashpoint you could if he still wants to you can make him the batman then but other than that no he's not doing anything other than i think he just let him direct he's a very he's a very good director and i think that uh i think it'll work if he directs um okay mild mannered comic nerd coy loved your x-man christmas extravaganza the tv show and podcast question was the best Winston thoughts on db dama i'm not into it but vegeta season i don't know i'm pronouncing i got you i got you Winston thoughts on dragon ball dima i'm not into a vegeta
Starting point is 01:22:58 super saan 3 clip i enjoy i want to see a young beast gohan thanks guys um yeah i mean i'm having fun with it like once i understood what it was and it's more of kind of an adventure take than getting to like the standard fighting stuff we got in dragon ball z and super then i've accepted it for what it is but yeah seeing regita super saint 3 this is what people been asking for forever so it's cool to see I think he's excited about it. Like, I love Dragon Ball, like Z and earlier. I now, Vegeta Super Sand 3 has me intrigued.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Mild Manick comic, Mild Manor comic nerd. Last question. What is the best way to store comics beside comic boxes? My two comic bin weighs as much as Thor's hammer. Jesus. Historically, I used to keep all my comics on bookshelves. Like, I bag and board them,
Starting point is 01:23:43 and then I would just be rows of white on the bookshelf because they are so heavy. Out in L.A. because I'm in an apartment. I do have them in long boxes. And 300 long boxes is only like 50 or 60 pounds. But if you don't like working out, that's probably heavy. I love having heavy boxes to move around,
Starting point is 01:23:57 because I'm a weirdo, but I personally understand wanting to tuck them away. I get really good quality bookcases. Don't get anything that's like particle board because you can break them with comics. They add up really heavy. Get a good quality bookcase, tuck them away,
Starting point is 01:24:11 alphabetize them, know which shelf they're on, and they don't have to worry about it again. And also the last thing was about my podcast, coicast that I never talk about. So thank you for watching that. We did a whole Christmas special where they,
Starting point is 01:24:20 hundreds of people tried to trick me with X-Men questions. And one of them was literally asking about a panel of a comic from 1976 and I pulled it. Master! Help! All right, let's get to the next question.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Don't let's be Philly. Let's see. Next one. And this is from Rangers fan, 1996. Just watched Super Slash Man and I regret for getting the tissues. My face is an absolute mess for both the good and the bad. Love the show as always.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Yeah, it's a tough watch, man. I mean, it's like, especially when the guy was just so beloved and it's a good, good person. You know, when you see all this stuff and what he's done. Yeah, it's a tough, it's a tough one. It's a really special documentary. I highly recommend it. Ruby Bands, Harloff is Wildcat in the E.C. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:25:06 I know what the hell wild cat is. What is that? Are you still boxing? I'm throwing up. Is that help? You're getting cut. Yeah. He's, uh, he's, uh,
Starting point is 01:25:16 a street level hero who is a world champion boxer and it ends up being a big fighting trainer for a lot of people in the justice league so even if they have superpowers they're not to throw hands so you know so that that's why get a delorean and get my 23 year old self to do uh nick vaughn in my opinion both linear and non linear storytelling can work and linear has worked for phases one through three of the MCU they're in a rut right now and are working on recovering so let's see how things go um i don't know if rut is the right thing. I think trying to it's like they're just not on they're just not at the highest quality but the other thing is too. That Deadpool
Starting point is 01:25:58 Wolverine is still their last movie that they put it. Right. So right now they're in the wind box. Now that's the same way that they were in the wind box when Guardians 3 had just come out and then they just then they threw the marvels out there and basically just rolled up the windows and farted in the car.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Oh my God. And And so then you've got it. That's how I felt during what if, man. I was so happy with X-Men 97 and then what if happened. And those windows were up. Oh, you weren't here for the for the talk about about Bo going at the what if. Yeah, I heard it. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:26:35 And then he's not wrong. But it's that's all you guys talked about it. But anyway, I think that they can turn themselves around, but I don't think Captain America is going to be a way to do it. I think that what's going to happen is I think Thunder. Bultz fantastic four that's when that's when you're going to start to see the up i think they're going to have i think we are going to have the conversation with everybody else from february until march because march i think daredevil is going to come out and
Starting point is 01:27:00 daredevil people are going to be happy about but i think from like daredevil on they'll start to pick things up but i think you're going to hear that conversation now marvel's in big trouble because captain america was was the farce i don't i have less and less um and this is look this is the same conversation we just had about Superman. I have no faith in Captain America right now. I feel like the movie's going to be bad. I could be 100% wrong. And I hope that I am. That newest trailer I love, but I just, I want to feel more excitement that I don't yet feel. Yeah, the trailers are good, by the way, but we have seen trailers be good. I mean, the Green Lantern trailer was good. Trailers can be good. But can you polish a turd? And I hope that this isn't polishing the
Starting point is 01:27:40 turd. I hope it's an actually good movie. But I just feel for some reason, I just, I don't like I don't like where we're at with this movie right now. Anyway, let's see. Next one is Ruby Bands. Winston is Mr. Batman in the DC. Mr.
Starting point is 01:27:54 Batman. It was, it was so for, Corey, you weren't here. So somebody had short-handed Matt Reeves' Batman is a capital M-Capital R Batman. And so,
Starting point is 01:28:05 so Walter Reddit, he was just like, uh, the thoughts of Barry Keogan, staying as the Joker in Mr. Batman. I was like, I mean,
Starting point is 01:28:13 Matt Reeves, so I just took a, we stood a bad bad. I love that so much. It is pretty great. Christiane, unpronounceable. If you all love Frank Grillo, you should watch boss level. Awesome movie. Frank Grillo can do no wrong. Dude, that's one of my favorite action comedies in the last 10 years.
Starting point is 01:28:30 That was actually one of the last collider screenings back when Collider was what it had, like that iteration of Collider. Boss levels were the last things we did before the pandemic. That's great. Mike Joyce. Right now you get 41 guys. you got 41 with half an hour left you need you need around 50 52 to tie this you can do this you can do this too more to time speaking of aaron pierre did any of you guys see rebel ridge he was amazing in it and it was a great movie too i agree with one part of that i agree that he was
Starting point is 01:28:58 amazing in it oh you didn't like it that's not that i didn't like it i just the movie the movie was it it could have been so much more especially with him in it it's like i people were saying oh it's first blood is nothing close to first blood except the fact that the no but i mean as far as the story goes, it's like, okay, yeah, here's a guy that was being harassed and then getting thrown into it. That premise, similar to the same with the Nora and like pretty woman. Then it ceases to be because he's, the guy didn't even saw combat, you know, and before. He's just really smart, knows how to kick ass. And then, yeah, I thought it could have been more. I thought it could have been more. But I thought he was electric. I think he carried the whole
Starting point is 01:29:38 movie um and he's the reason that i cared at all maybe that's maybe that's what i'll watch tonight i i had um work i had to do this evening and uh non this related maybe i'll put that on while i'm writing it's the best audition tape for john stewart i can imagine easily easily easily uh buster barns i feel like dc u batman has to be a fairly big dude if he's going to stand next to cornswet and pier that's why i feel like a skunar i love that choice i love that choice I also yeah did you watch 1923 and he's also did you oh and did you see the Blake lively movie the one that's gotten all the controversy no I didn't but I I just pulled a picture of him okay I remember I
Starting point is 01:30:20 recognize this guy you know what's so when I was watching that show with my wife who we loved at 1923 loved it and we both said the same thing said this dude is gonna be a star like this guy is this guy's he's got that thing he's got that thing I don't know if they're going that age range with him I would love Brendan Sklinar as as as a batman or anything he's he's fantastic he's I don't know how big he is though well how tall is he but he can't be more he can't be more than 510 though five let's see I bet she's 510 if I was to get was he's about 34 though he looks like he could be Brandon Scler yeah yeah six two yeah he's six two yeah holy shit I didn't know he doesn't
Starting point is 01:31:05 I didn't know he's that big holy shit yeah no he Trying to play any age. He looks like he's in his late 20s and mid-40s at the same time. Yeah. Yeah, he's got that, that Palmiskill face where it's like, what age are you? He's great.
Starting point is 01:31:18 He's great. Chris Grineer. If Jensen gets Batman, Padalecki needs to be Joker, and Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Commissioner Gordon. I mean, just casting supernatural. Hilarious.
Starting point is 01:31:30 I do like, I do like, uh, Jensen, but he just, but he was just, I keep seeing. He was just casting something recently.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Jensen Ackles? Yes. He was just cast in... It's not the boys thing that he's doing. Oh, yeah, he's doing a boys' spin-off show. I think that's what you're thinking of. He's a spin-off of... It's called Vought Rising. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Maybe that's what it was in any good news. He's from Dallas? Oh, shit. I didn't know what he were cousins. Spidey Sensei 72. Coy, have they have explained why John Stewart doesn't wear a mask in the comics like Hal and Kyle? It's proud of who he is.
Starting point is 01:32:05 It's a very, it's a strong, um, theme for John Stewart of his pride at like he has nothing to hide he's who he is that's why he's doing it. It's actually a huge part of why I think Rebel Rage is such a great audition tape for that's the character. Like there's a sense of like nope not hiding anything. This is who I am and I think that's a really unique take in the DC Comics universe. It's the same with Guy too, isn't it? Because he's also just that arrogant. Yeah, it's the inverse right. Like John Stewart is pride and Guy Gardner is arrogant. So it's the same reason but in the like the same coin the other side. And one is a stupid haircut I don't know.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Armada. A big shot, puppy over here with glasses on his balls. It's from the Dice. Angel Dice Clay. Have you guys been done what I told you to do there with the Instagram and look at Dice's Instagram? Oh, I just dabble every so often. It's amazing. It's the best.
Starting point is 01:32:56 It's an adventure every time he posts. Did you ever see the one where he's chasing after Seinfeld? The Seinfeld one is how I discovered, like, when we talked about it. Oh, it's absolutely the best. It's so good. Winston, you haven't watched it yet? I haven't seen to know. I didn't even know you said to do that.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Oh, yeah, you have to. You have to. Damian Eve, happy new year, guys. Thank you, Damien. Have you guys watched Mike Flanagan's Midnight Mass? It's possibly my favorite limited series. Super excited for his take on Clayface. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 01:33:21 And it's not to say, look, Mike Flanagan is hot right now. You haven't seen Midnight Mass? It's so good. I saw Midnight Mass. I love that damn show. It is fantastic. I haven't seen that. I haven't seen not a one of Squid Game.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Not a one. Yeah, we talk. about this already you've got to man you would love it not a one mike joyce christian should be like coy winston and grow a cool goate um i know you know it's so funny it's holiday length yeah it's sometimes it just grows out and i go i got to cut that stupid thing off uh legend m m 600 happy new year first friday of 2025 y'all rock thank you just curious what's your favorite movie coming out i'm or or most anticipated i'm excited to see new captain american movie soon oh sorry as I just shit all over it.
Starting point is 01:34:08 So I think that for me, the two that I really want to see the most as out of the big budget ones, the big, I'm going to do the anticipate and there's going to be a ton of like small ones on there too, but the big ones, Superman and Avatar three, the two that I really have to see in the theater. Big budget wise Superman and regular size, the accountant too. Yeah. Sinners and probably somewhere between Superman and Thunderbolts,
Starting point is 01:34:35 probably more towards Superman but yeah uh Simon section I remember the ending the pretty woman the last shot was a homeless guy talking to himself what's up with that yeah Christian they showed some respect at Harris well yeah in the in the beginning well that home homeless guy first we know he's homeless um second he begins the movie what's your dream hey mister what's your dream remember that I do all right buster Barnes uh really hope when they introduce flash to the DCU they take from how Macaris speed scenes were done in Eternals with some added lightning effects. Thoughts?
Starting point is 01:35:11 I mean, yeah, I think that that was the best example of, like, super speed that we've seen in a live action, in my opinion, was what they were doing with Macaris for sure. I thought, is it Macarres? Is it Macaris? I think so. I haven't seen it since that year. But, yeah, I love that speed use, agreed.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Tyler B. Anyone mentioned the sound? L.O.L. I wish I knew. And now, Dennis Hoffman. Coy, have you read your buddy, Dex Shelby's Thundercat? Surprisingly fun book.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Yeah, Declan Shalvey, the guy who invented Mr. Knights, not Moon Knight, but that persona of Moon Knight, and a bunch of other incredible stuff is on Thunderbolts, and he's killing it. It actually is one of the highest selling comics of last year at not the Big Two. like it's it's out selling big two books it's it's fantastic yes i've read don rinaldo mc whiskey
Starting point is 01:36:06 happy new year's everyone it's new year's it's new me i'm watching from an elliptical at the local planet fitness i love that 15 dollars a month and you can get totally jacked there you go it's a great ad i love that yes do it don armada i'm worried about john gumping uh jumping to different mediums for films and tv to build the dc u seems super risky why not all live action probably because of money but still you just nailed it you just nailed it it's it's it's you've been you Because what it does, look, here's the thing. And please, fan animator, don't start knocking your head into the computer. You're going to give them a stroke.
Starting point is 01:36:38 I know. But the reason of the way you can do animation also for, you get the, you know, on Macs. And not everybody's going to watch that, Preacher Commando's. And most of the mainstream media, a mainstream audience has no idea what that show is. And they're never going to watch the animated stuff. And they're never going to pay attention to it. But the hardcore fans and the people who want to continue. you in this world. It's like bonus content for them. And it's bonus stuff to do. And it's bonus
Starting point is 01:37:05 way for you to set up the characters. And you say, hey, we did this Creature Commandos thing. And Rick Flagg is in there. That's actually the first time he appears in the DCU. But to other people who don't like animation, they go, hey, I found this guy from Peacemaker. Those people who don't want to watch the TV shows say, hey, I saw this guy in Superman. So there's just a way to expand it in general, I think. Boy, would you disagree? I just think multiple mediums is really useful for telling different types of stories. Like in addition to the cost and exposure and all those things, I also think there's elements of versatility in different mediums and different pulls.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Like the video game stuff intrigues me because I don't think we've ever seen that share in a universe. And there are so many gamer fans that might be more interested in that story. So I think in addition to all the things you're saying, it's also the medium as a strength for bringing in new audiences. I think that 100%. And I also think that it allows you, as you mentioned the money thing, for example, it allows you to very quickly, like animation can a lot of times take longer than live action. But it allows you to also kind of bridge the gap sometimes when it's like what we were expecting from what if, that it would have more of an effect on the MCU one way or the other, right? And so it just will allow you to kind of give extra stories in there as well and not to say that they're not important on their own because they are.
Starting point is 01:38:22 Chris Grenier. Can someone please explain to me how we have three lanterns at one time? My understanding is for Earth to have a new lantern and the other has to die. So three at once, all diversity, never understood as a comic fan. Did I miss something? Coy, I got it. I got it. Okay. As someone who has always kind of sort of known about the Blackest Night storyline, but I just read it over the Christmas holiday and it was incredible.
Starting point is 01:38:49 So one, the idea that apparently all life really started. from Earth, which is a whole thing that the guardians were trying to hide from stuff. So they were actually keeping lanterns away from the Earth. There's nothing that says that you only have one lantern or a particular place. But as Abensur, was that the, yeah, so as Abensur essentially died and gave his ring to Hal, it then kind of opened up a floodgate of like, well, this is kind of where the epicenter of a lot of heroes and stuff was going. So as that happened, you were, the rings were essentially finding more and more people
Starting point is 01:39:19 that were worthy here on Earth. So it doesn't really affect it one way or the other. They're still space cops. So just because let's say you had four cops that were from Brooklyn, they may end up in different divisions. It's the same thing. You're just getting more dudes that are coming here and they still got to go into space and go work other sectors. But that was the thing. If there are other people of different races, multiples on different worlds and this is kind of where we are now.
Starting point is 01:39:44 I butcher that, but coy. No, that's totally fair. And I do think the thing a lot of people don't talk about enough is that Earth was kind of an origin point. And I think that does allow for a lot of the, like, why are there so many on this weird? Like, why does everybody live on that street of the universe? And I think that's the essential part of this question is that doesn't get talked about enough. And I hope that's an element in the true detective theme show of like why Earth's important. Before we go out into space concept.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Are we getting Necron already? I think we could. Interesting. And I also think we'll have an important death that has ramifications out. So I think we could. And I was just thinking about the slippers that I got my way for. Christmas. Mild Manor comic nerd.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Hey Christian, could you do me a huge favor? Can you please say, Darth Vader's burnt asshole? I think it's hilarious how you say it. You sound like a teacher reading the attendance list. Thanks again. Son of a bit. This is a substitute teacher. You guys are at 50.
Starting point is 01:40:40 You need 43 at a time. Come on, y'all. Don Ronaldo McWhiskey. I will super chat 50 if Harlock goes to just one Brazilian jiu-tzu class this month. just one this month i'm supposed to go next saturday to i mean i got to talk to matt tomorrow i'm supposed to start on i'm supposed to start next next saturday so you might have to put that super chat in i'll let you know if uh if we do it for sure um i got to talk to matt shut it's supposed to talk to
Starting point is 01:41:06 chanler poise pine i liked aquaman for what it was but moa just never felt like the aquaman that i'm used to lobo was a much better fit my daughter loves the superman trailer when i told her they were about a Super Girl movie, she got so excited. I think that that's, but that's like, that's also what they're trying to do here, right? That I think is smart.
Starting point is 01:41:26 They set up Supergirl and this one, one of the biggest movies of the year. They introduce her. They get people excited. And then, yeah, you capitalize on that. But as far as I want to see the comic accurate Aquaman. We never really have seen it, you know? Ever, like Super Friends is the closest,
Starting point is 01:41:43 and that was some time ago. Even Vinnie Chase couldn't do it. I know. We're saying James Cameron. James Cameron can't direct it. Who can't? Except for the guy people want as Batman playing him on Smallville,
Starting point is 01:41:53 which was closer. Right, right. That's true. You got live action and TV, but never, never in, but even that felt like a broier take than, like, the comic.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Right. So, all right, go pal. After Quoy randomly pulling DJ Qualls, I might have to re-watch the new guy this weekend. I'm going to do that. I'm a do that.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Oh, I love that movie. I was trying to think of the skinniestest person I got to mention. Hey, Berishel is another one. Yes. Hey my head on. Who's the bitch now? Two icons, too, man.
Starting point is 01:42:25 I love both those guys. Freddie Castanella, excuse me. Do you think since the, as Steph would say, Penguin was R-rated show, the Batman 2 should be R-rated. I think it would solve the potential confusion of two Batman to make something for everyone. Happy New Year.
Starting point is 01:42:41 Was the first one, PG-13? Yeah, just a heavy PG-13. Wow. Yeah, I... I don't know. I don't know if it should be. I think you probably have to. I don't love changing the ratings of a sequel
Starting point is 01:42:54 after the first one has already been whatever it was, whether that's PG-13 to R. The best example I always give is Major League 2. Major League, the first one was rated R. They made the second one PG-13, and it just completely changed the overall tone of what that movie was. Die-hard? Die-hard? Yeah, they made the third one.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Apparently is an unrated cut that I still have never seen. They made the fourth one. Yeah, the fourth one being PG-13 Just yippie-kyea, mother-father Well, he just He just cuts at it But the TV dub is like legendary There's so many different TV dubs of the PG-13 cut
Starting point is 01:43:30 And then they're like, let's make that a movie But no, they shouldn't change Do you guys think that they should? I don't think you need it to be rid of R. I mean, depending on the villain, I guess, But like they showed the strength of a good PG-13, I thought, in the movie. Let's be honest, that movie's never coming out. All right, so unknown. I don't know, it's, it's turned, Winston said it best last week,
Starting point is 01:43:47 it's turning in the blade. Unknown, saw challengers and thought it was meh. The acting was great, and the idea was cool, but overall felt flat. Have you seen it? I really enjoyed it. I didn't love the ending, but I really enjoyed the movie a lot.
Starting point is 01:43:58 I think that Luca got a little too overstylized at the very end with the match, and I thought sometimes the music overpowered some of the scenes, but I did like the movie a lot. I really did, and I'm looking forward to Lucas. I like, I like him a lot. I think he's, his movie's going to be on my anticipated, and everyone will say,
Starting point is 01:44:17 the reason why and it's not true because julie roberts is in it it's not the reason why i actually want to see i want to see i want to see i want to see but i do want to see lucas it's going to be and and it's got our uh it's got our from uh from the beer so i'm excited i liked challengers i didn't think it was like a lot of people put it there like top 10 i liked it a lot but it wasn't that for me um i i thought it was a little everyone said it was like the hottest movie ever and i thought there were moments there were certainly like ooh but it definitely like i thought it thought baby girl was was way more like i heard but i heard that baby i've so uh i told you filthy yeah well that's what i was going to say more my speed i thought baby girl was much more
Starting point is 01:44:58 what i wanted challengers to me well i mean the part of the conversation that was interesting is i remember when challengers was coming out that was around the time when that that survey came out that jen z was more interested in movies about friends than like getting it on and so like that was like oh oh oh we like this one though so like i don't know it's a baby step in i guess jensen day it wants things hotter it's the comedian in me that i still don't know if you're allowed to say things i don't care i was like i was like it's like see the difference is that zandaya likes to fuck around Nicole kitman fucks that's kind of the plot of these two moves 100 percent a hundred percent at the whole point is just like oh yeah just kind of teasing ain't no teasing about nothing
Starting point is 01:45:39 Nicole kimmons like brace yourself there it goes three points three points stance all right uh Ethan Lynn Lillniers. Hey guys. How about Scars Guard as Batman? I think 10 years ago. Well, but I don't know, but no, I shouldn't say that. Alexander Scarsguard as Batman. I shouldn't say that depends on a matter of casting.
Starting point is 01:46:06 What age? What are they looking at? You know? He's a big dude. He's a big ass dude. Yeah, he's a big dude. And he's pretty charismatic. So it's not a, it's not terrible.
Starting point is 01:46:17 Just a matter of what they're looking for age. He's got to be, he's got to be close to 50 years old now. Oh, yeah. He's up there, man, 48. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, 964. I've completely forgot. He's a big dude.
Starting point is 01:46:30 He's a big dude. Yeah. It'd be interesting if they got him and then his brother to play the Joker. That'd be interesting. Uh-huh. Oh, I'd love that. That'd be great. Unknown.
Starting point is 01:46:38 Do you still recommend nerd armor? I do. Looking to buy myself my first lightsaber for my birthday. I have been terrible about, about that. Let's say, um, yeah, there's still a sponsor on the show. I just haven't been able to promote it as much too, but if you can find my link, use my link. And yeah, they're great. I love, I love their sabers. Absolutely. Love nerve armor. Um, okay, let's see. Next one is Buster Barnes. I wouldn't hate Richardson's Batman, but I feel like he could fit into other roles better.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Captain Adam, Shazam, Wildcat, Aquaman, to name a few. Yeah, I, I actually really like Alan Richardson a lot. do not like him as Batman at all. He comes off as, I don't know, I was going to say too serious. Batman's not exactly a jokester, but like I, I don't know. I don't know. I'm robotic. I could see him as Batman, but I actually like all of those except for Shazam that were just listed. I think he'd be great as Captain Adam.
Starting point is 01:47:35 I think he'd also be great as major force as a psycho. I think he'd be great as Wildcat. And if you want to go to Aquaman, like if we're tapping Justice League unlimited to the one with the hook, who is also kind of, he's not like surfer bro, Momoa, but he is a, you're not going to F with Atlantis. Like, if you want to go to that, then I think he could fit any of those. I love all the Wildcat love today.
Starting point is 01:47:57 And if you haven't read, there's a new Black Canary comic out right now, I'm an issue too about her training and she's fighting Lady Shiva. It's a boxing comic. And the comic is told from like boxing commentator's perspective. It's so good. That's cool. All right, Winston, I just realized that you got to,
Starting point is 01:48:12 we got to get you at least 38 more because you've been on four shows and if you don't win one of them out of the four shows, that's going to be something. It's embarrassing. But then we know what the real problem is. Roker was holding me down, bro, because like right now I think we've already passed all of the other shows.
Starting point is 01:48:29 I think Monday, Monday you guys at 70 something. Okay. Monday that's true. Yeah, because that was the one to beat and then we beat that yesterday. Yeah, Tuesday and Wednesday. It was tough because it was the holiday. Yeah, it was tough. All right, let's see. I wouldn't hate it when we did that already.
Starting point is 01:48:44 one is Ethan for Marvel rivals fans fantastic for trailer one to six 20 oh hell yeah so uh on on on January 6th and that's uh what today's first Saturday's at Monday on Monday okay bet I'm ready right heroic hideaway coy will you be getting the mr. miracle absolute edition Winston who is your main marvel's rivals Christian my house is also nonstop wicked yeah wicked is is playing in my house over and over because now the seven-year-old's into it now too So, no. Yeah, so much so that I actually put my short this morning was it was a wicked Easter egg. That was a short because I found an Easter egg that from all this freaking is now, here's the other thing.
Starting point is 01:49:27 I will tell you this. You guys know how much of an advocate I am that I hate social media. What do you think my favorite social media platform? And then if you guess it, you got to guess why. TikTok. No. Instagram. Yes.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Why do you believe so? booty booty booty booty booty booty booty rockin air well no that'd be nice but uh but no i because of the i think that the algorithm on instagram is wonderful and so what i did during the time i was like you know what i want to find some spots in the city and in long island for like good food recommendations and things so i started liking some stuff and putting some stuff into like a folder and then my algorithm just started popping up more and more places to go and check out jazz places that i want to take my wife to like Italian restaurants, other things. And like, it's just so much more like
Starting point is 01:50:16 helpful than, and you know, and I don't have to look at stupid comments and things there too. I'm just looking at certain things that are going on and like these recommendations. But the other thing is because I was watching and then my daughter wanted to watch some wicked stuff, the other part of my algorithm was all wicked shit. So the other thing was like an Easter egg
Starting point is 01:50:32 and other stuff and I found all these different things inside of it. But what my seven-year-old absolutely loved, I don't know how we found this because the algorithm popped it up was a roll of toilet paper singing instead of popular, pupular. She loved it.
Starting point is 01:50:46 And I don't, like, don't even have, you know what? I'm going to play the audio in just a moment. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:50:53 Does that? Go ahead, Corey. I was going to say, Mr. Miracle, absolute edition I am going to get. I've got it
Starting point is 01:50:57 in every other edition. I have it. Individuals. I have the first trade as a trade paperback. Actually, no, I gave that to Stephs the bra. I gifted my Mr.
Starting point is 01:51:04 Miracle paperback. I have the first hardcover. I have the special edition right there. And then I'm going to get the absolute. It's my favorite DC comic. I love it. Nice. I will go based off of the three different types as far as vanguard's Captain America as far as duelists either Hawkeye and now Punisher's kind of sneaking in there for me and as far as strategists gotta get Jeff the Landshark maybe throwing people off cliffs that shit is hilarious You're gonna be pooh Bueller I'll teach you just how to sit when you take a shit little ways to drop
Starting point is 01:51:36 That's that that goes that goes a long way with a seven-year-old time. Next one is Mohammed Hassan. I'm a bullshit. It goes a long way with me. I heard that there was a super man early screening and it was negatively
Starting point is 01:51:50 received. Then he worked truth to that. That's what we got that already beforehand too. But yeah, I mean, we kind of, not to reiterate. No, I just wait until the movie comes out. Just wait to the movie.
Starting point is 01:51:59 You guys are at 59, 59 with eight to go. Can they get it? Can Winston get himself out of this hole? We'll see. Hey, Ryan Abney. Hey, guys, hear me out. What do you all think of Henry Cavill as the DCU Batman?
Starting point is 01:52:14 He's got the look, physicality, and acting chops to pull it off. I'd love to see him make a comeback for DC like Jason. Yeah, it would be, it would be interesting, but the chances of that, you got a better chance of Spidey Cat being Batman. I think the other thing, too, is Henry Cavill isn't like an absolute, like, layup like he was born to play Batman. And when I tell you, Jason Mamoa was born to play Lobo, you would be smoking crack if you didn't immediately go, we got to do it. We have to do it.
Starting point is 01:52:50 Yeah. So, yeah, I just don't see that having quite a no world, right? I think it's a fun idea, like my fun idea to have him play Apollo, but not really likely. Yep. Ethan, Lynn Hart. I'd love to see Raul Cooley from Midnight Mass in Marvel or D.C. He's a fantastic actor, and I think he'd kill it as Constantine. I don't know enough about the actor, but I don't know if you guys think that's...
Starting point is 01:53:14 I can hear him as Constantine, which is a cool. Yeah, he's got the right accent. He's got the right energy in the accent. That's a fun take, and I definitely think he should be. I think he's fantastic. There's a part of me that wants Matt Ryan to just keep doing it. Like, there's something that's very funny about the fact that he did the constantine is exactly the same, no matter the universe.
Starting point is 01:53:30 No, like it's just the same dude. Buster Barre. If there's actually a DCU video game, I think one following a younger, Hal Jordan around space would be awesome. It's possible. I mean, it depends on the popularity of this stuff, right? And that's the strength of having, you know, the same voice actor as actor as you could have him voice it.
Starting point is 01:53:48 And that could be the younger getting to the point we get the lanterns as, you know, the actors in his 50s now or 40s or whatever. All right. Let's see. Next one here is from Indiana Jake. Are you old Dexter fans? The prequel shows better than I expected. I can't wait for resurrections too.
Starting point is 01:54:03 I do. Look, I love Dexter. I really did. not the last season, but the one before that, that was supposedly the last season, I bailed on. It was so bad I couldn't do it. I just watched the last episode and said, that's stupid. And then when they did the last season, I was actually blew through that when I had COVID the first time. And I really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:54:29 So the idea of a prequel series is interesting. I know that he's actually doing the voiceover for it. I'd be interesting to check out a couple episodes. I'll give it a chance because I do love the first four seasons of Dexter. I did not come back after that. After Trinity Killer, I fell off. Most people did. Most people did because that, well, they lost the showrunner.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Yeah. After that, but he came back for that last season. And the last season is good. That's a good place to go back. Yeah, it's good. The last season's good. I mean, it's like, you know, the other stuff just started getting into very soap opera. He's making dopey after what happens at the end of season,
Starting point is 01:55:06 for. It's like he kind of lost his whole anchor of what he was supposed to do. But anyway. Surprise, motherfucker. That's hilarious. Those memes. Dennis Hoffman, recast choice for Sinestro. I loved Mark Strong, but that's the wrong move.
Starting point is 01:55:22 Wrong movie. It is a hard bar because Mark Strong is not one of the problems of that movie. He's so good as Sanestro. Paul Giumati. Give me that ring. Are you afraid? What's the dude's name from John Wick that runs the Continental?
Starting point is 01:55:44 Oh, wow. The pirate-looking dude. Ian McShane. As Sinestro? If it's just a voice and he's in, like, you know, he's usually like underst, I just love his voice, man. I think, I think, I think Kung Fu Panda. I mean, yeah. Get Kelly and Murphy to keep doing out fear, take him from scarecrow over to Sinestro.
Starting point is 01:56:02 I just, the voice is sinestro is so key to me. Tantranin, 9101 with a very generous super chat. Cheers, best of luck to all of you in the new year. Thank you, Tans. Very kind and very, very nice of you. Thank you. Joey, Pedrus, Adrian Grenier for Oceans Master and I. I think you'd have to give him a cameo.
Starting point is 01:56:23 I love that. I think you got, I was surprised he didn't get a cameo in the old DCU. I think he should have a cameo. Yeah, that would have been fun. He does so much environmental work too. like he's actually like a conservationist now so yes Dennis Hoffman
Starting point is 01:56:37 Harris Dickinson as Nightwing loved him in Ironclaw and Baby Girl. Oh wait is that? Yeah that's the dude and baby girl he's great man. What is he in Ironclaw? He's one of the brothers. He's the second to oldest brother I think Is he the one? I was going to
Starting point is 01:56:53 say that. Hold on to see Harris Yeah don't go don't give away things No What was he in Ironclaw? Hold on let me see because I it's funny because he's another one I thought he was really good in Baby Girl from what I've seen so far, but I said
Starting point is 01:57:08 to my wife, I said, does he know you? And she goes, and she's like, no, why? I don't know. You know what, he's, he was, he was great in Iron Claw. He was great. All right, I changed my mind now. He doesn't know him. Redemption for Harris Dick. Yeah, he was, he was great in Iron Claw. I loved him in that movie. I thought I, yeah, he wasn't getting, I mean, nobody got love in that movie. Nobody got love in that. That's one of the biggest Oscar snubs I can think of them.
Starting point is 01:57:33 ever uh russell amador has anyone seen shiva baby highly recommend no i'm tricky with comedy it wasn't my sense of humor but i know a lot of people like it which which one was that it's the one with the girl from uh the bear um it's like a comedy set during a shiva oh no yeah i don't know oh no i haven't seen this mohammed hassan coy what are your top three dc comics if you're just starting comics uh let's go superman for all seasons, Tim Sale and Jeff Loeb, really good, all-encompassing Superman story. We're going to go Batman Hush, which I would say that or Batman Year 1. Year 1 is super approachable, but Batman Hush is going to catch you up in a lot of villains,
Starting point is 01:58:14 and it's beautiful Jim Lear, written by Jeff Loeb. They're actually both written by Jeff Loeb. And then either the current run of Wonder Woman, because I think it's very approachable and very good and really gets her as a character or Mr. Miracle, which is just my personal favorite DC comic of all time. It is really cinematic and it's really approachable because it takes place. in a world that is fantastical but also is in LA. Like it's grounded in LA, but it's also a big fantastical story.
Starting point is 01:58:39 Winston, what you got? Didn't ask Winston. Damn. I just saw you nodding. I wanted to give you a speed round. I just got told to shut the FFFF. So I'm still sitting here. No, no.
Starting point is 01:58:53 As far as Winston, if you want to know his comic choices. I wish I knew. God damn it. I knew that was coming. Go ahead, Winston. got one um the only thing that i'll that i will add to that uh did you you said hush though didn't you i did then never mind i have nothing so that's what that's what you should do then all right let's see let's go chris green here uh now hear me put if he's done in mc only if he's done
Starting point is 01:59:23 tom hittleston is batman if we're going older i don't see it i love tom hittleston me too yeah that is not as bad man um but he's at me great actor but Constantine. Oh, that's fun. Great Paul, Winston. Yes. Tatchettian 901. Why is Josh McCougar calling me
Starting point is 01:59:43 in the voice of Tiffany's dad? That might be a poll that I'm not as well-in-round enough. That's Toad Hop Day's stuff, but I just I don't know if I necessarily remember. Tiffany Smith? Blocked all those years out. Yeah, Tiffany Smith.
Starting point is 01:59:59 Kenya King. I hope we get more holiday center bless you i hope we get more holidays centered dc u movies some of the best justice league uh what is that justice league of america or unlimited uh episodes were centered around christmas oh justice league animated unlimited episodes okay i got you um yeah i mean they were they were actually pretty good there's a fun one in season one of justice league uh where you've got like martian manhunter going with to the Clark house to the Kent household for Christmas and learning what Christmas is. You got John Stewart and Hot Girl go to a bar and they get in a brawl for Christmas.
Starting point is 02:00:44 The Flash trying to help deliver toys to kids since he can literally do what Santa does. It was a fun sort of thing. So yeah, if you're trying to get like a very fun loving thing, I think that could be true. Any buddy cop thing I'm all about. And I think Christmas and Buddy Cop go together well. So Shane Black, DCU, confirmed. 68 questions thus far
Starting point is 02:01:03 and Winston you at least try to beat your Monday let's say come brooks Brooks Wilkins hey guys pick for green arrow in the DCU
Starting point is 02:01:11 Coy thanks I agree no boy you that goate is the gotee if not if not me Charlie Hunnam I think Charlie Hunnam would be
Starting point is 02:01:21 an exceptional green arrow I'd only come back to acting for Kevin Smith or for Green Arrow that's my list but Charlie Hunnam I think it would be
Starting point is 02:01:28 really really good I'll tell you more so Hunnam is kind of, you know, Hunnam was really good in the gentleman. But a lot of times I've always felt he's just okay. I'll tell you who I really like is that, that Travis Fimmel from Doom.
Starting point is 02:01:43 Oh, he's great too. That dude is, that dude is awesome. You know, I love Garrett Headland. Yeah, he'd be good too. Charlie Hunnam's best friend. I'd love to see that. Aaron Ederton.
Starting point is 02:01:53 Oh. He's going to land somewhere. I hope so, man. I love to be Carriard. Did you see Carriot? Dude. It was so good. I know. I'm too. Damn, I might have to redo my list. You know what's not fair is that and for Winston, you guys know you both significant others is the fact that like we're always, if we watch something that the significant other wanted to watch without them, we're the bad guys.
Starting point is 02:02:17 But if they do it, oh, you should have been around. Why weren't you here? Oh, bullshit. I love when there's like an actor they do or don't like that they're in a thing. Like actually Trinity Killer, Anya doesn't like Jonathan Lickick. She doesn't like him because of how good he was as Trinity. So when he pops up in something, she's like, I don't trust that character.
Starting point is 02:02:33 And I was like, I don't know. I've been doing it. So now every time with my daughter and the little one too, it's like, because of Oz, it's the one thing. Now I can do an impression because that they both get.
Starting point is 02:02:45 I'm like, oh, yes, well, well, yeah. Okay. Yes, yes. Eat your strawberries. Have them. Oh, okay. Eating them nice. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 02:02:54 And so, and so I did that the other day. And the little one looks up. I mean, she goes, Oz. Vincent Zawada. I hope the show is Roka and Dan is happening. I will tell you, Vincent, that as soon as I'm done with this show here today, I'm going to text Dan Merrill to see when we can lock that down.
Starting point is 02:03:12 We're supposed to do that. We'll see. Matt Thomas, Ackles for Batman. Enough said, perfect casting. I like it, man. I just don't know what he's going to do. I like Josh Hartnett also. Okay, I think we got, we're at 70 right now.
Starting point is 02:03:24 So, Winston, you've got about two to beat your record from Monday. Come on. Buster Barnes. Glenn Powell is Green Arrow. I'm just over-exposed. And literally any woman has Black Canary. Any woman.
Starting point is 02:03:37 So Glenn has chemistry with everyone. Also, I hope we get JSA appearance in Sergeant Rock. Yeah, I like Glenn Powell, but he's getting to that Jennifer Lawrence phase when she was super hot. You know, like when she was in everything and she had to take a break.
Starting point is 02:03:53 Give the guy a break. He's in everything now. And it's just like, there are other actors out there. Give him a couple years than Cyclops. Yeah. Yeah. He's more my Cyclops than Greenauer personally. Yeah. Um, okay.
Starting point is 02:04:05 So next one here is Ethan. Ralph Feens. Oh. Ray Feens. Ray Feens. Excuse me. Ralph Feens. Ralph Feens.
Starting point is 02:04:12 Ralph Feens. Is it Ray Fines? Yes. I said Ralph Fiends. It was from, it was from the Clark and, uh, Sam episode. I said, I kept saying Ralph Fiends and Clark was like, uh, it has hurt fiends giving. So he kept saying Ralph Fiends. But it's Ray, Ray Fines.
Starting point is 02:04:26 who was actually fantastic in in conclave he's so good i love that pull great call yeah uh let's see joey pedrus do you think harley quinn will be a big presence not for a while it's too confusing right now because the james guns kind of jumbled cannon some of some of some of suicide squad is canon other parts of it not like what like the gerard letto was not the joker you know what i mean So it's, that's, that's tough. I think we need distance from Harley Quinn. I think, I hopefully the show, because I love the animated show can keep going. But, um, and they, they showed the put, they drop the trailer.
Starting point is 02:05:06 It should be out soon. Mm-hmm. Uh, yeah, January 16th, I think it drops. I think so. Uh, nerds engaged. Danny Rand fancast. I, I, I don't know, honestly. I don't know any martial artists.
Starting point is 02:05:23 Not, not, not white martial artists. And that is important to the character. Like that's, that's, sure, but I don't think he fits. the character though i don't even know who that is iron fist iron fist okay uh legend m m 600 ha ha you guys rock favorite superhero mine's batman superman batman batman spiderman batman deadpool nice uh chris craneer batista as bain well you know it's funny uh josh harwood's asked um gun about that i think that i don't think batista wants to play him anymore i think that was like 10 years ago i think he's I think literally has grown out of it.
Starting point is 02:06:04 I don't think he wants to put that kind of weight back on. He's like spent the last three years losing the weight because it's not healthy to walk around with an extra hundred pounds on you. And he's got to be 55 years old. I think he's I think he's done with that. And he's a really good actor now. I think he's going to focus on certain things like that and not just do the physical stuff.
Starting point is 02:06:23 So I don't think we're going to get him. It should be played by a good actor this time around because it's, Tom Hardy's not a bad actor. Bain should also be played by someone with like, intelligent captivators. He's not Batman and Robin. No. Now, if he was going to be following up Bain right after he did
Starting point is 02:06:39 Dune, I'd say, sure. But he's not in that, he's not in that physicality anymore. But him for Hugo Strange would be great. Yeah. Starboy. Do you think that we will get Batman beyond under the Red Hood under gun? If so, who would you cast for Terry and Jason?
Starting point is 02:06:56 Do we get Batman Beyond and Under the Red Hood? Well, you're going to sort of, we're doing dynamic duos. You're going to probably get some thing. I'm assuming we're getting Red Hood, Jason, and not, you know, Robin, Jason. As far as Batman Beyond, sure, but we're a ways away from that. Just because Batman Beyond takes place in the future, you can't start with that and go back. You need to really establish things first.
Starting point is 02:07:22 And who would I cast? I have no idea. Jason, I'm going to go with actually Harris Dickinson. and I love that idea for a Robin, but I think he does have that unnerving. Like, I don't know if I trust you or not thing that Jason Todd should. And then Terry, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:07:38 I would want... That's such a hard person to cast. Nice, Winston. Dennis Hoffman, is Alan Richardson as Orion in a new gods movie? Oh, I see... He says, I see Alan Richardson as Orion in a new God's movie. I like that a lot. I think that suits them more than a most
Starting point is 02:07:58 the fancasts and more than Batman. Taryn. No, Tatt Ronan. Hickory Dickery Doc. Guess it's Finstock. Oh my God. I love these throwbacks. I talked to him the other day. Ethan Lynn Harris.
Starting point is 02:08:15 Who is your dream casting for the MCU's Ghost Rider? Norman Redis. Redis or Ryan Gosselin. I actually like Gosselin. That would be fun. Yeah. And then
Starting point is 02:08:30 Patron says, Finstock can tell you that David O. Russell knows the thing or two about a thing or two. David O'Russel. My favorite, my favorite thing ever, my, I don't know, the hardest I ever laughed at a Shmodeon match ever was when Finstock played Matt Nost. He was answering, he was trying to answer and he said, Chasick Bosman for Chadwick, he said, Chaswick Bosman. And then he tried to get the, point off of it and we said we know we can't give you the point of that and then he had this moment where he completely unintentionally fuddles his uh a race board and it flies out onto the floor it was hilarious it was like it was something out of an abbot in costello movie um all right mazie's role new year's resolution to watch disney plus john williams doc i do have to watch that i still haven't seen he has anybody seen it no i figured if you'd be the score guy no yeah no i haven't seen it um
Starting point is 02:09:28 So right now, that's it. Good news, Winston, is that you beat Monday with 76. The bad news is that you guys get defeated by Steph and Mike who win the first battle. Yeah, 76, but that's pretty good. Hey, 76. You come in, poor Roka coming in last place again. So thank you guys for joining us here today. I really, really appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:09:54 Real quick, give a shout out to your channel. just the, where can it, they find it? At quote, John Drow, right here on YouTube. Put me down. At the Swaggy Blurred. Same thing. Thank you guys so much for joining us.
Starting point is 02:10:09 Uh-oh. I just lost the feed. That's all good. So, yeah, thank you so much for joining us for the Christian Harlow show. What it's really called is capes and cows. On behalf of myself and core, there he is. Okay, go ahead. I don't know what's going on with this. That's the one thing. I'm still learning the buttons.
Starting point is 02:10:23 Still learning the buttons, but there it is. Thank you for joining us here on the show, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. Thank you for being here. We have the Clips Channel. We have so much going on. We have the Iron Man 3 reaction that should be coming out. If it doesn't come out this weekend, it'll probably come out on Monday.
Starting point is 02:10:40 But you're going to see an uptick in those because Sam's going to be coming into the office a little bit more. We're going to try to knock out as many as these as we can. I've got out of the theater reactions for Denna Thieves 2 coming in next week. I've got Wolfman the week after that. And then we're just going to start. Thank you, Spidey. And then we're going to start heating up. So thanks for being here again.
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