The Kristian Harloff Show - Are the Fantastic Four Guaranteed to be Announced at Disney's D23? (Greg Alba) - The Big Thing

Episode Date: August 22, 2022

The Fantastic Four film has been announced in Marvel's Phase 6. It was announced by Kevin Feige at San Diego Comic Con this year when it would arrive. So who are the Fantastic Four actors and when will we see them? On today's show, the Reel Rejects' Greg Alba joins Kristian and they discuss what they think will happen at D23 and if the F4 will appear. Kristian and Greg talk a lot about Youtube, starting a channel, evolving with the times and trying to balance it all. It is a great chat, hope you enjoy! #d23 #marvel #fantasticfour #starwars #youtube #videos #reelrejects STORYBLOCKS: http://www.storyblocks.com/BIGTHING PATREON will all live here on Sep 1: http://www.patreon.com/schmoedown SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVES CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAQQ... THE BIG THINGS CLIPS CHANNEL: http://www.youtube.com/theschmoedown KRISTIAN HARLOFF CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/THESENCHANNEL SEN CHANNEL https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLXlpF-KK__bpcv66toTqiw SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://patreon.com/schmoedown Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg - CM Punk Interview: https://youtu.be/R8Js8uj6GfE FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hope you did a good week. So the sound is on. So that means that I'm going to have a good guest here today. I got Greg Alva from the Real Rejects coming in. We're going to talk about a great mini-thie. Definitely going to talk about some of the stuff happening in the MCU, some stuff going in the world of D.C. Star Wars. But the D23 is really, I think, what's coming up really soon.

And I'm so curious to get Greg's thoughts on what he thinks we're going to be seeing the D23 panel. And just in general, I'm still definitely going to give him some shit for how much shit he gave me about Thor Ragnor, Thor, Love and Thunder. Man, he gave me some shit. We'll talk about that for sure. but listen you're brand new to the channel and you've never been here before and you're just figuring out you're like hey i like the real rejects but i don't know who the fuck you are well look when you subscribe to the channel we're trying to get the 70,000 by the end of the year and what we're trying to also do is we're going to take the show on the road stand-up comedy big thing capes and cows

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Welcome back, everybody. There you go. It's the show now. Yeah, good start. You know what it is? I don't know why my mic is now. Welcome back to the show. Oh, good start already.

Thanks to have you. Thanks to have you. Thanks to have me. And right across from me, finally. It's Greg Galva. What a good start we had there, huh? How you doing, man? One time I'm going to see you and you're just calm as how.

No. It's like, that's my, that's my secret, right? I'm never, I know, it's funny. I've been trying to master this thing. I'm getting better and better, better at it. And then the one day it's like, club city McGillocuddy. How's it going?

How was you ride over? It's like, it's like getting on a plane for like a four hour trip, huh? It's nothing but ambulances and road and construction on the road is over here. It's like they're trying to keep us apart. Because if it was nighttime, it'd be like a 15 minute drive. But it turns like a 45 minute drive. over just, oh my God, how many people are dying today? I know. I know. And that's why I originally were, I was talking about like doing like nine in the

morning for you. And then when you're like, ah, well, can we do 11? I was like, that's going to be much better for him of traffic. I guess not as good as I thought, but probably better than it would have been at nine in the morning. Oh, definitely. I got to say, by the way, while you were doing your intro, I was looking around at your space. And I love your set. Oh, thanks, man. It always looks like you just moved in here. It is true. And that you're, you're rushing to set up a space because you've got to keep your channel It's what it looks like. None of what you said is inaccurate.

All that is saying is that you might as well, you should be, you should be like, I can look at you and know what's going on in your soul right now. And you just nailed it. That's exactly right. I like it though. It feels very grungy. Yeah, well, it's true. But we're going to be changing it though because I got, I have like inquiries from like, like,

guests that are going to be coming in. People are promoting movies and TVs and shows and shit. And like I don't want them to have that feeling. You know what I mean? What did I sign up? Like you and my other peeps and like when people come in here, it's like, okay, cool, that's fun. But it's got to change. And it's going to change.

We have some changes that we're going to do. But I will say this. And I've said it with you not on the show. And I've told you in person, but I would like to say it on the air too. Greg Alba is definitely one of the main reasons that I've had, I think, you know, I'd say a measure of success on this new channel where I've been really pushing hard. Certain things I didn't understand about it, even though I've been in the space for, while. Greg got on the phone with me many times and had some great input and definitely helped tremendously. So I thank you for that. I want to thank you on the year. It's all my my responsibility

for why you're doing well. I've done all the hard work here. It's just you. Yeah. That's true. It's like even like the thumbnails. You're just like you were and he's so nice about it. He's just like in in reality what he's what he wanted to say these fucking thumbnails are terrible. I've done so many I've made so many mistakes. Yeah. And I've done so many things and I'm like, oh, I can't believe that. So now I'm just. I have people who are always giving me advice. It's just part of the, I think it's part of the right. If you're running the right circles, everyone's just going to give advice to which.

It's like paying it forward too, right? Yeah, that's what everyone does. Like, I'm always getting advice from people. Yeah. And a lot of times, like, oh, shit, why did I do this before? And that's just my life. But I love, I love what you're, sincerely, I love what you do. Like, I have a lot of friends in the space.

I don't listen to too many of them regularly, but I love a lot of your solo stuff. I really love your shit with, uh, bread and Roxy. Oh, thanks. I think that is really interesting. Admittedly, I haven't listened to stuff with Steph and Mike yet. That's okay. He has a lot of stuff to talk about. There's a lot of things going on.

No, it's true. Look, look, the same goes for you. The way that I look at is very similar to the, like, stand-up comedy. When I would go to the comedy story, there were many comedians that I respected very much so. It doesn't mean I watched all their sets. It means that I was like, okay, yeah, I respect what they're doing. I appreciate what they're doing. It works for them.

I get it. I just, I'm not going to go and watch their sets. set, nothing against them. It's just, I got a lot going on here and I'm preparing my stuff. And then there were other comedians that I was like, well, I got to, I got to spend some time listening. Because I genuinely just really enjoy it and if I wasn't a comedian would be tuning in to hear it because I'm genuinely like just a fan. I feel that way about your stuff. Like I tell you, like, I comment on your stuff all the time because I'm like, because when I'm, I'll be working on my stuff on my computer and I see Real Rejects just, I have the notifications on. So it pops up.

And I'm like, and I listen to you guys talking and I and I leave the comments and stuff too because of Same thing. Generally entertaining to know what you're, whether it's friends, but someone that you respect. And clearly, as I said in the intro, we're not always on the same page.

No, definitely not. But can discuss it in a way that I think that a lot of people don't. And, and I think it's more important to do. Because like I said, we're on like bringing up like Thor,

love and thunder. We're on, I think, completely opposite sides of the spectrum. Not as opposite as you think. Okay. I watched it again. Okay.

The second time I watched it and, I really, and I said this in our spoiler talk when we were live streaming. And, you know, you, I want to be, the thing about it is like what, what I would have still been honest about it. What I was worried about being honest was was that the reviews were not the greatest. So I didn't want it to look like I was placating. But, but my honest opinion was that the second time I watched it, the first half of the film really didn't work for me as much.

It was the first half. Yeah, because it was, it was suddenly I started feeling like, okay, when you don't have a pack crowd and I've heard all these jokes before. This is not funny. A lot of this is not fun. Like there's some jokes in there that are funny, but a lot of it was like I realized that my my first experience, my takeaway was more with the last half of the film and that's what the movie left me with. And then on the rewatch when it was a much smaller to crowd, not that, not that it was crowd manipulation. It was just that now that I was with something where I could just absorb the movie. Yeah. I was like, okay, the second time around these jokes are really not quite clicking for me.

Totally. And look, but it, but it is a sense of crowd manipulation, as you say. It can be at times. Yeah, 100%, especially when you go to like a premiere or screening and you're around a bunch of friends and you're just and you're, and you're there for like the kind of good time. I think that's what they kind of count on a lot of the time too as they should. It's smart. You bring in a whole bunch of people. Hey, you're going to the premiere and have some fun. And then they're you kind of enticing them with that feeling. They're not telling you like, oh, because we hooked you up and think you got to give us a good review. That's not what it is. That's what stupid people think. But like what it is is that they definitely paint you in

this picture where they're like, oh, look, you're in this big atmosphere and you're around all your friends and this is a good time and you're having fun. And like you said, it leaves you, I agree with you that the second half is way stronger. But for me, by the time I got there, I was so checked that because I had said to you at the end when I saw it, I said it was a little too goofy for me. Yeah. See, I didn't really think that until I rewatched it again, right? Because I was thinking more about the second half. Yeah. Yeah, the second half definitely plays, they start to give a little bit more of context of the story and then like just that first half is like I hated that fucking zoo stuff I hated it yeah okay I can't meet you that's fine I actually enjoy it

you know because it's like it just you ever see the movie top secret with Velcro it's like top secret yeah yeah yeah but that the top secret's intentional and a hilarious yeah right right that's and and and it knew that it was and and it didn't try to trick you that it was that and so that's why transitioning to like Shee Hulk I was um actually didn't catch your opinion on she Hulk yet. Love it. Yeah, okay. Love it.

Good. Because, but I was hesitant going into it because of two reasons. One, I didn't think the CGI was very strong in the trailer. Mm-hmm. And was worried about it, but also realized that,

hey, you're watching it on YouTube, so it'll look different once it's on Disney Plus, and it's not completely finished yet. So I understood that going in. My issue was what we just talked about in the lead-in was Thor, was that I worry when it's just comedy, comedy, comedy, comedy, first everybody gets a joke that you don't know what the tone is it switches all up and like are we getting that again um the first two episodes of this show are so well written and is a great balance which i think

thor was missing it is a good balance of character i think three and four get a little goofy i haven't seen three and four okay three and four get a little goofy but still pretty good i think um is it jessica shoot the writer i keep messing forgetting the rider oh i forgot the writer's name i barely remember I have to start remembering because she's such a great writer. She wrote the first two. And from what I heard, she didn't write three and four. And you could tell. Three and four is good.

But I just loved one and two. But I assume you like, how many did you see? I've only seen the first two so far. Okay. I went to the premiere, but I left the theater. Oh, one three played. Any reason? Yeah, because I got to react to it.

Oh, wow. You wanted to get that. We'll get into that later. I love your work etiquette. I really do. It's a weird thing to be correct. Because I had several people say that to me of like, respect. I'm like, well, it just makes my job easier if I have never seen it.

Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, I mean, I prefer to, like I've done it with trailers, like with Dr. Strange to play at Spider-Man, No Way Home. I just was like, don't watch, you know, or I leave the theater when Avatar was playing. I forgot what movie would be a premiere before. But yeah. But I liked one a lot. I liked it more the second time I watched it.

I already liked it a lot the first time. The main criticism that I had, and I had this criticism before criticisms for it came out, was the fact that I didn't like that, and I see it in the comments, people are debating about it all the time, and some people have no issue with it. I still feel like it could have made the episode that much better, is I did crave her having a little bit more physical struggle with adapting to the Hulk power set. Sure. I know that's setting up for the internal struggles, and I don't want to give away what happens in the second episode.

episode because that's what I was kind of feeling was like, oh, they're sending a play more to the internal struggles that she's going to have to endure with some external struggles are going to come. And I think the second episode, I find stronger than the first. And that was the one thing that was like kind of missing for me in the first episode was I needed, I just wanted her to have a little bit of that uphill battle with developing the powers. But I felt like they were also just trying to get it out of the way because the second episodes when it's like, yes, a show. Yes. And I think that that's absolutely fair. I didn't have the issue with it, but I understand the issue with it. I had more of an

issue with Kate Bishop and how easily she was able to just start fighting rush, you know, people. Right. That, that was, I had way more of an issue with that. There are a lot of characters sometimes that just are able to do shit and you're like, well, how the hell? I thought even though it was a quick thing, the other way they explained, like, how her body was taking to it pretty easily and how she was able to control it and not be the rage beast right away. I like that. And from what I hear from, again, we both hear the same, more stuff from Koi and Koi, like what they do from, uh, the comics that it's pretty consistent, but I also agree that it was more so because I like the idea.

There's a lot of shows, whether it's Obi-Wan or other shows, I think, need to be longer to get more character development. I like that they're sticking to the 28 to 32-minute Ali McBeal structure of this show. And I think because of that, you just can get in so much inside of it. This isn't really about the origin story

and how she'd be able to do it, how she manage her powers. And it's more so of her balancing her life with being the, Hulk. I think it's a fair criticism. I just, I didn't have as much of an issue. I think that's, I think that a lot of people did. No, the second time around, it's, it's, it just reminded me that it's just a, it's a sincerely fun show. Yes. Like it's, the, the, there's an authenticity to how much fun it actually is. And sometimes I can feel force or sometimes I can feel like it's under,

which is perhaps with Thorlob with underd it, which is undercut stakes or undercut dramatic tension. Right. Right. So the fun feels like you don't need a joke some, a lot of the time. Whereas here, Here would Shee Hulk, it feels natural. It seems like it's part of the show. Yeah, it's just fun. Right. And it, I mean, and it's not, sometimes you say the word fun, and that's an excuse, that's an excuse, but it's not for this. This is just, I think one of its strengths is the fact that it embraces its show.

Yes. Versus a lot of these, a lot of times with like, you know, streaming shows or whatever, they're like, we made a six hour movie. Right. And we cut it up. And this embraces the fact that it's episodic and that they just need to tell a solid story. I mean, I haven't seen three and four, but I feel the impression I get is that they're just trying to tell a solid story every episode

and have like an arc for her every single episode. And I think that is a strength versus trying to like cut up a cut up something in a six hours. Right. Right. And I think that like you said, they knew exactly what they wanted to be and how, what it's structured for, you know from episode one exactly what this show is and it stays consistent into it.

But it also you bring up these, I don't know where you stand with this because we talked about this on Friday, are you more of a and I think for your for your business the obvious answer is week by week but as a fan are you more week by week of a fan or do you like when they all dump it in in one shot I know for work it's one is week but week I like I mean yeah I mean I I generally it always it's all it's all subjective on what they're telling you know like most of stranger things I think works as a full streaming stranger things for I was like this could have been a week by week. Yeah, that that particular season could have been a week by week. Whereas part season three,

I'm like, no, that works as a full stream. I think it just always depends on what it is. Because a lot of times, that's the problem you run into when what we were talking about, when you're like, instead of making a solid episode at a time, they try to make a six hour movie and they just end it per episode. And I think that's, those are ones where I'm like, you might have just wanted to make that a streaming show. That way you can get the whole picture, because a lot of times these shows get judged, but then people come around to it by the time you get to the end, And that's because they made, they constructed it that way. Yeah. I mean, I think my, my, my issue with it for the shows nowadays is because like,

Netflix was, were the, really the innovators who with streaming and had all this with the house of cards, all these other shows, gave you the full season. You're like, oh, wow, I can just watch the full season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they had really no competition. There was nobody out there. There was, because week by week television, okay, I mean, network TV. Okay, fine.

But the streaming wars didn't really start until like 20, like, say 19, really. Right, right. And now we're. still only three years into it. And now that it's heating up the way that it does, I think Netflix has to change their strategy because channels like yours, channels like these other things that like when you're covering week by week, if you're going on YouTube, you're going on Twitter, you're going on TikTok anywhere and people are talking about these things. They're talking about it on the day and then the following week. And if you nail everything in two days, your show's

going to be lost. It's not the water cooler discussion anymore. Well, I think what people like more than anything else a lot of the time is anticipation. Yes. They like looking forward to something. So I think that's why when you have a week to week show, you have the anticipation looking forward to something. Like there are shows that I watch that I don't talk about on the channel. Like Better Call Saul is my favorite show I've seen like one of my favorite shows of all time. And I would look forward to it every single week. I was addicted to it. I couldn't. Why don't you talk about it? I'm curious. There are some shows that I just need for me. Yeah. I was going to say to I want to miss business with pleasure sometimes.

I mean, sometimes it's like, you know, the whole point of what I do is I have to kind of enjoy and kind of ignore. It's like I have to be aware of there's a camera, but also kind of ignore the fact that the camera with what I do. Sure. But there are some shows that I'm like, I just like to eat food and kind of veg out, depending on the day,

might smoke a little bit just so I could just enjoy my television, enjoy my TV because part of, weirdly, that kind of feeds into what I do, because if I can enjoy it in my personal life, then it's easier to do it on camera too. So sometimes it just does work better for me to do something like a better call.

Or Westworld, for example. Sure, okay. So I like, there are some shows I just need for my, same thing with movies, too. And so, yeah, I'm not going to cover everything and anything. Well, I think it's, and it's also different for,

for you and I right now or what, so for me, I can do that in a certain example because just how I start with when Schmo's, I'm so used to like the review itself, right? Like, I don't, I don't do the episodes. And I'm starting, and it's again, advice from you, but I'm probably going to start doing episode like reviews,

the same way, or, excuse me, or watch a long as the same way that you've been doing. The reactions, yeah, yeah, the reactions off the actual episode itself. But right now what I do is I'll, even if it's a show that I enjoy, I'll watch it. And I'm like, okay, I really like that. I want to get the word out and I want to talk about it and get the review up. But sometimes, depending on I watch it, it's like, well, if I do that, I don't know if it's going to hurt the algorithm because it's three, it's three months later, nobody's talking about this show.

anymore, you know, and that's, and that's, that comes into it now. Like, it wasn't like that five, 10 years ago. Like, you could just, you, you see, oh, shit, I just watch Ghostbusters again and I'm going to do something with, with, uh, with Chris Stuckman and me, him and Mark going to watch Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters winds up doing whatever the hell it does. But, like, for example, I'm watching the Sandman. Okay. Have you, I love this show. I love it. I'm, I'm like six episodes in. It's, it's different. It's got, it's, it's creepy, um, but it's, it's clever. And I'm like, nobody's talking about this. And then some of the people were talking about it,

they were just talking about it on the first two days that it came out. But I'm still going to try it to, like, when I'm done with it, I'm going to put a review up and tell people that they should check it out. Like the offer was one that I saw that I know if I put that review up, nobody would have watched it. But I try to talk about it on this show all the time that for when people are going through the chapters and going, oh, what's this show? The offer is phenomenal.

I haven't seen yet. Loved. There's a lot of shows I have to start. I mean, it's like you don't, I have to do a lot of editing. to and yeah no i know you do a lot of ship i don't think people realize how much shit you you really do you do a lot i mean you do a lot there's a there's this there's a guy actually a friend of mine ryan airy he runs a channel called screen crush has like uh yeah yeah over a million fall great channel and he messaged me he's like wait you actually wait you actually watch this show

on camera for the first time i'm like yeah what are you he's like i thought you watched it advance and then maybe record it like record certain scenes after he's like that's so much editing you got it. I'm like, yeah, I know. It's, it's, it's very time consuming. And then a lot of things with things you're talking about with algorithms and stuff, it's, a lot of people don't realize, like, when, like, when we first met, it was so much easier to get views back then. It was, it was, it was way too, it was actually too easy back then. And now everyone's channel has a very specific algorithm. Yeah. The algorithm is this crazy AI that we don't, that we don't, that no one really understands. So everyone I don't even understand. No, they don't. They don't. And so everyone I

talk to has a specific algorithm. Right. So like your algorithm is going to be different than mine. And then everyone else that I know is so it's sometimes YouTube pushes your video. Sometimes they push a full channel. Sometimes if you try something different, they're like, that's not associated with this. So everything is some people can do a variety. Some people can't do a variety. And it all just depends. It's weird. And some people get all their views from their subscribers. Some people get all their views from just being in the search or recommended it's all over the place. Dude, it's so crazy because it's one of those since I remember when we were first talking and you're like, yeah, well, the goal is you got to start to get into the trending page. And I'm like, you know, no fucking shit. I would love to, but I'm like,

and I said, I've never, that's, even with, I want you to get into recommended as well. Recommended, right. Yeah, yeah, and that's what, right. Recommended. And I'm like, uh, no, no, I wasn't recommended, the trending page. The trending page? Yeah. And, and, and I wanted, and I don't recall saying. You said, you said, you got to trending, like, eventually you said, recommended, recommended, absolutely, you said, but you said, but the trending and like, because you've been on it a few times and I was like, you know, and I said to you, I don't know if it does anything. I don't know. It certainly does. I'll tell you why, because Ellis and I had never, ever been on the trending page, ever. Okay. My Spider-Man one was. Yeah, yeah. That's the most amount of a subscribers, views,

one of the best months I had when it was, it was myself, you guys, and Grace Randall for all trending from that review. It's because you keep getting suggested and recommend. So, like, and they have a thing called click through rate, meaning how many people saw your thumbnail, clicked on your video. Right. So there's all these different numbers and calculations. It's insane. So like, and then I'm like, oh, that'll happen.

Maybe it'll happen again. I'm sitting here twiddling my dick in the wind. But either way, it's like, but you're absolutely right. And I told people this who do things. I was like, look, there is, the algorithm is going to push you in certain directions and do certain things

and favor you at times and not favor you at other. And I'm not a dummy to this. Like when a trailer comes out for even if it's like and or I've got to get, because the benefit for me is I have children. So I'm fucking up. Yeah. So if they drop this thing at six in the morning, I'm up and I'm doing it, right?

But I got to get it up there quick because once yours, Tyrone's, other people shit comes out, you guys obviously so and should be you're going to get, the algorithm is going to start to when people are searching for it. They're going to throw to you guys because you've been doing it. The algorithm knows your channel. So you've got to work if you're a smaller channel and you got to move. And that's what I think that a lot of people will realize. Some people put it out like, I've seen people put it out like five hours after you guys have done.

And I'm like, you're, you're toast. Yeah. You still should do it, but you're toast. We're fortunate enough now, because before I always felt like I had to be the first one up. And after close to a million was when I was like, oh, maybe we don't actually have to be the first one up. And now I can like spend at least, at least an hour editing this video before I make it life. Right. Yeah.

So it's a fortunate position. But no, you always got to figure it out. I mean, for the longest time, our movie reviews wouldn't get views, just our solo, just movie reviews. And then I realized. Okay, but if we shoot a full review at the theater, and then now I notice there's a lot of people doing it. I'm not saying we're the influence for it. If anything, it's probably can't be who I would see do like a one-minute one,

but I was like, what if we just did a full one at the theater? That's when I wanted to do. And we've got it in trouble with many a security card. We've got cute down. But that's when we started getting views on our actual reviews, was doing them at the theater. Those out of the theater reactions to me are something that I think have been kind of eye-opening for me because when I was looking at it,

there's always these social reactions that are allowed. Social reactions are allowed. And then I remember somebody saying, I remember who's like, well, if you did like a minute social reaction on YouTube, what's the difference of tweeting it? It's a social media platform. It's a social media platform.

I was like, well, what's, there is no difference. I'm like, wow. And then I started doing those. But you got to make sure that you don't, some people are like, who are you reviewing it? I'm like, that's, if you've been watching me,

that's not a fucking review, a minute of me just talking about, blah, blah, blah, blah. So those things are helpful for sure, you, like you said, you've got to find things that fit your channel, that fit your personality, that people want to come back for you. Like, I realize when I do Shee Hulk reviews, which is a show that I want to watch, enjoy it, I'll get people watching it, but I'm going to find more people start watching when I'm putting my Andor reviews up. Sure. That's what people

know me for us. Yeah. So doing that. But yeah, it's just, it's very interesting kind of learning it, even though I've been doing it since 2008, 2009. Yeah. It's such a different game than it was back then. It's always going to be evolving and changing. I mean, there are people, who like have more followers than ourselves, but I know we're doing better than. Likewise, people, there's a channel, there's a really great friend of mine, probably my,

actually, easily my closest friend outside of the States. His name's Paul runs a channel, heavy spoilers, less followers than us, but does phenomenally better than our channel phenomenally. And I'm always getting advice from this guy.

So yeah, I mean, it's a fascinating game. But yeah, when I met you, I mean, I remember, yeah,

you were doing Shmo's at the time. I remember being like, hell of nervous the first time I made. you because I was when you came into the show I had never done collabs or anything like that you were the first channel that I was like oh my god I'm going the schmose no what the fuck this is weird I've never done collabs and we were like 60k subscribers yeah so it was a really strange time for me yeah it was awesome it was a lot of fun and I remember that I remember then Mark and I um I think it was your old apartment yeah yeah yeah we couldn't find parking that was great yeah we couldn't find parking

that's right yeah we did but we did um we did a few reactions and then we did and then you had like the the greatest schmose memories or something that we that we reacted to, which was really fun too. It's still in your channel. Is it? Oh, I haven't seen it. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting.

We're doing, we're fun. Isn't, uh, you're going to be shooting, am I allowed to bring this up? You have to show us out the last day of, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, as this, as this airs, you already have shot it. Yeah, yeah. So this air is, this is going to air on Monday, but yeah. So the, the end of the, um, Schmodown, the Schmodeon, the Schmightuckit we had shot it this weekend and it airs on October 1st.

And so I, I'm hoping. So otherwise, I'm going to have to cut this out, but I'm hoping to make an announcement already. So what I'm doing is I'm moving a bunch of things around. My goal is that I have already announced this on Friday so we'll put fingers crossed. I'm moving things around from

channels, right? So there's now going to be four YouTube channels. Okay. The first is this channel, which is not really going to change everything on here. Big things, Sith Council, Capes and cows, all of it. It's all in this channel.

And nothing will change. Reactions, reviews, this the way that you like if you're subscribing, well, how's that going to affect this? It isn't. Um, the schmodeown, the YouTube channel that, that is the Schmodeon channel right now, that used to be the old Schmo's channel is going to be the big things, uh, big thing clips channel. Okay. And so what's going to be on that channel in general, you're going to have, um, basically, so today, you know, once it, once it transitions in, if we're, if the main topic of this is D23 or whatever it might be and we start talking about YouTube and how to help your channel, and I go, that's a good video. Maybe we'll put.

that up, that'll be on the clips channel. It'll be like four of those. Plus, if Coy and Winston and I are on and we saw a movie together, instead of their review being on my channel, it'll be on the clips channel. So there'll be like three or four clips a day and hopefully to build that out. Be able to what the hell's going to happen with the Shmodown Library. We built out a channel called the Shmodown Archives where the spectacular is actually going to air and like there'll be a couple episodes of rundown on there leading to the spectacular and all the old episodes will start to kind of come out too from the season. and so like a new audience can find it.

So, and then the final channel is S.E.N. Live, which will be its own channel. And that's still going to be offered on Patreon. And then S.E.N. Live is going to be live two times a month. And so if people want to go and find Sien Live, they can, they can do it. So, so it's, that's kind of how we're rebuilding the whole, the whole thing. How are you feeling? Great. Yeah. I'm feeling great about it. Yeah. It's, um, it's like, look, there's, it's like happy and sad at the same time, right? Obviously, I think that there was so much more that we could have accomplished in general.

And I do think that the pandemic was the fucking iceberg that the Titanic never recovered from. Yeah, yeah. But it was nine seasons. How many people can say that they did nine seasons of a show and did it pretty damn well? And we had a lot of good things that were working and a lot of things. And the other thing that I said, when you lose an audience, whether it's because of pandemic or other things, whatever it is, with everything we were just talking about, there's so much shit on YouTube. streaming. If you lose a portion of your audience,

it's hard to get them back because you got to say, hey, look at the stuff we're working on now, but they got to, yeah, but I'm watching all this other shit now. Like you just said before, like, there's only so much shit I can watch at one point because your lives go on. Because I happen to think that,

and we talked about it, this version of the Shmowdown at that studio as Titans, it was probably the best version that we had ever done, like as far as production and all that too. But it just said, calling it what it is. Not enough people were watching it. Yeah.

It's a hard thing when you, I mean, I've had my ups and downs with Schmow down behind the scenes emotionally that I've like talked with you about. And I'm not afraid to be like candid about it. But I think what you built and with the team involved too, the influence of it is is something that is quite phenomenal. Like when you really sit back and look at it and it's really beautiful.

And there's so many people. I've gotten to meet from, like I got to know Koi from there. He's one of my closest friends. I got to know so many, like so many of the personalities. I'm like, there's so many people who also were given a platform to shine, like just true fans who, and that's why it made sense to me why there were so many people who embraced playing in the game because a lot of these people finally felt recognized and noticed. And I think that was such a grand thing to give to people who actually started to accrue

a following for the first time ever and started to get some people who were just journalists, some people who never got the time to shine in the spotlight. I think the shmowdown was, was a very impactful thing. And it is sad. It's weird, like, as much as I'm not one of the most involved people with it, it still is a sad thing to see go. You were more involved than people realized, especially towards the end here, you were like, for people who don't know, Greg was reaching out to me many times. Like, look, I think there's things you can do to try to boost this, to do that, do that. And I, and I implemented a lot of stuff that he had suggested. for sure and it just was we were just in a and it was minorly working in the beginning it was look

the arrows are going up on the analytics look good but i just like i said about the boat though i just think the hole was too big in the boat at that point yeah and it's a massive ship that you're running you got a whole team full of people and what a lot people don't realize with you is you know you have to be the leader of this whole thing right so you're you're helping to lead and manage so many people right and i'm like that responsibility is tough like i i've been expanding real rejects would just, you know, like the first 500K was just pretty much me. Yeah. And then John officially partnered up with me.

So that was like my first like employee technically, right? And now I got like, coin and then editors and then trying to brand. And I'm trying to produce a couple of other things too. And I'm like, I don't this. It is, it is a lot. I'm never sleeping. Yeah. I don't even have kids like you.

And then yet you're doing all this other stuff with these people. And so and then yet I'll notice that because you're the leader, it's easier to be judged to. Oh shit. Just go on Reddit. Yeah. I know. It's crazy. It's like you turn to Vince McMahon. I know this Christian guy. This is not him. They fucking hate me over there.

And that's what I mean. It's, it was crazy. It's like the prophets never appreciating his own land. And that was like the position you were in a lot of the time. And you know, it's like, I know everyone has their own whatever subjective experiences with you. But I'm also really well aware of like, but he's also too little like a hundred people here. And so sometimes he might get a little bit shorter, might get reactive towards a situation that goes wrong because of one piece of the domino. one thing creates a domino effect. Yeah, it does.

And then sometimes you don't have time to be like the most, some people want all this undivided time and attention. Right. When you're like, you don't really have all that time, so you've got to be a little short. You also got to be able to concentrate on yourself at some point. Exactly.

And we'll be able to concentrate on your mental health. Because again, being completely open. Like you and I had probably like a two hour conversation outside. And I was just, and I was the most open with you than I probably have been, anyone outside of my wife. And I was like, I was just,

I was struggling, like mentally. I was just struggling and I was, and I, and I'd gone on like, those Reddit threads and these other things. And I was just like, it was bad. It was like,

I was in a really, I was in the worst place maybe since my brother passed. You know, it was a really bad place. And I was like walking around going, I'm just in a terrible, terrible place right now. I did feel underappreciated at certain things.

And I felt also like, you know, I tried, I would put out, I'd have this idea and I put the idea out and then, and then you just see someone just fucking shit on it. And you're like, it's their right to do. If they don't like it,

they don't like it. why don't you like my stuff? You can't do that. But it doesn't mean we're not humans and it doesn't hurt, right? And so that's just one example of like many different things. And then, but that doesn't, that didn't even lead into the fact that like there's, like I had no call on the Dishmodown like ending when it did. You know, it just, it did.

It ended when it did. I was, I was, I understood. And I said, okay, well, let's let's make it work. And to sky bounce credit was phenomenal in how they wanted to make sure had proper send off and all these different things. And it was very, I mean, I can't say enough positive things about Skybound. Like, very positive things about Skybound. And the way that they handled it in general, which is just smart business decisions that they had to make and get it. But it's like, but I was, I was already in a place where I was just like kind of getting beat down that

when it does come to so many different people and looking at enjoying myself on this channel and doing the things that I'm doing on this channel, I'm like, I really, I like doing this. I've never been on, I've never been on my own ever. Like, because Mark and I had done for so long, and I've never done my own thing. And I wasn't planning to, I kind of fell into doing my own thing because we had S. C&Live. We turned it into the KH channel, you know, and inside of that, it just, that kind of came out of nowhere. Reactions and reviews again, I had kind of written off reviews.

I'm like, I don't know if I want to do that anymore. Then I was like, you know, kind of having fun doing it again. And I said, you've got to have fun. But it is, as you said, and you know more than anybody. It's, it's work. But if it's satisfying work, then it's worth pursuing. Well, it's like,

I equate a lot of what we do to like actual, you say acting and it sounds like pretending or faking, I'm talking about like that, that old philosophy, every time I watch inside the actor's studio, the philosophy I always heard about was you do a lot of, even right now we're doing this with you. You hear a lot about, you do a lot of prep,

you got to do the work, you got to do the research, you got to do this, this, this. But then when it comes time to film, you got to let it all go and be in the moment. Yeah. And that's what we have to do. Essentially, it's true.

It's like you let it all go and you just be in the moment because then you got to have fun. You got to enjoy what you're doing when the camera's rolling. And that's pretty much how it is right now as we're doing this. It's true. I see you stress and try to put this together and all that stuff. But then you just sound working. It's true. Then you kind of ease into it.

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Because I send it to the sponsors once I hear what you're enjoying and what you're not enjoying. So go ahead. Let me know. All right. So I think people thought we'd be joking around a lot more. I mean sometimes look sometimes sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't I don't I can't force it right you know and you'd be and you'd be surprised man like something like the conversations like this I think are so helpful for people and I think that especially whether it's like whatever we're talking about whether it's um stuff that we can geek out about

yeah inside of the shit that we love better call Saul fucking shea whatever it is and then there's stuff that they want to hear like if I was a creator kind of coming up and starting a YouTube channel and I knew fucking Greg Alba was going to be on the show, and the guy who's built this thing from the ground up and got himself to over a million subscribers, right? Talking about two things that I think... Not alone, though. I want to make sure not.

John, of course, of course. But he's not in the room with this, but I'm saying... Yeah, fuck John. Fuck John. No, but of course, for what you guys were able to do and build it together. Same thing with Mark and I were able to do, right? I'd want to listen.

And I'd want to say, well, sure. I want to hear what they're saying. Plus the fact when you also, those things of, like, people are human beings. Like, it's like, yeah, you can. can see us having fun goofing around, but it's like, we can get our ass kicked like anybody else. Well, a big part of what we do has to look like we're not working. Yes, yes, absolutely.

That's why, you do, when I'm not working, or when I am working, this is part of my work. Yeah. That's part of my work. And I put that on my sandboard because that is part of my work. Farts are my brand. I mean, it should be a shirt. Farts on my brand. It really, my wife would agree.

Yeah. The whole point is supposed to look like this is not work at all. Right. That's not, and then if you try to put it out there too much, and it takes away the whole fun. It's not an illusion necessarily, but there's like prep and time.

And granted, it's like my fiancee, like that's real work. Like she's, she's a therapist for autistic kids. That's a, right. And that's like a,

that is a job that is helping. I'm always like, the fucking views are low. She's like, yeah, this kid fucking punched me in the gut today. That's a real job right there. You win.

Yeah. Yeah, totally. You know, I get it. It's the same man. Yeah, there's a lot of like when I, like I was having, I had a, I had a meeting with a friend about a week ago and this listening to him talk about the stuff that he's doing.

It's like, it's certainly not what your fiance's doing, but it's still inside of the entertainment business. But I was listening to like playing like major league stuff. And I'm like, and then I got in some tweet or text from some kind of drama going on. And whether it was a Reddit thread or it was a or it was a or it's, like some kind of internal drama and I'm like I'm like this is so stupid I'm like what what grade are we in? I'm like I'm like meanwhile I'm talking to this other person about like real things and I'm like like there's so much more stuff that's important to worry about and enjoy in life and like just kind

of breathe and enjoy it and as you say yes what we're doing is fun and it and it's work and you should embrace that side of it that we get to watch this stuff that we love and talk about and That's why I don't get, I used to get, like, really take more things on the air with me, like, whether it was somebody like saying something in the comments section or anything to, and I would, I'm so over that now. And I'm like, so like I can, like, it's, it's easy to just block that person. It's your store. You can throw out anybody you want from the store.

Somebody comes out with a dick hanging out of their pants in your store. You have the right to throw them out of your store. You don't have to scream at them in order to do it. That's the beauty of that block button. I get shit all the time and be like, you'll never see it a lot of the time in the comment section. Like if it's like really hate, I go through the comment section all the time. And if it's like hateful stuff, I don't want that to be what I think is accepted in a lot of YouTube places. There's something that you just can't, there's so many comments coming and you can't

always police it. But I'll put certain word blocks and things in there because I want it to be as much. I think people should be able to talk to each other. I think they should be able to disagree with each other. But hateful speech and all this type of shit that goes on and calling people name because they like something else you do it. Fuck it. Go to someone else's channel and do it. I'm So that's, I'm just, I saw enough of it at Collider and other things. I don't, I'm over it. Well, I can really, I think what I really know, at least I could speak from me. I've been several other people is a lot of times when you read these hate,

a lot of people don't, people don't, I certainly didn't know until like within the past year. Like, Christian's a lot more sensitive than I think people realize. Yeah. Like, you're more sensitive guy. And I'm, like a lot of times I'm, I could be a sarcastic asshole, but I'm actually a very empath. I consider myself a pretty empathetic human being. And just watch your Forrest Gump thing. Several movie reactions later.

I was like, bawling my eyes. You crying me, me, bro. Yeah, so I like, I like those conversations. I actually, I really like doing the movie reactions. That's really fun. But I'm so sorry. I just lost my train of thought. You just type of just being empathetic and just people don't realize.

Oh, with the comments and stuff is that a lot of the times when you read like a hate comment, you know, especially where you're at in your life, you're reading something. And so the voice that's reading it is your own voice in your own head. So then it kind of can feed into your own subconscious. You know, it's different than if some dumbass said it to me in person actually. Of course. So I'll be like, who the fuck are you? I don't know who are you are, you know?

But when I read a comment, it's like it's my own negative voice in my head. Reading is that true? Yeah. And then I'm going through us because, you know, from doing this as I started the channel, like when I was really, when this channel really started making like pennies, like I mean literal pennies. I must have been like 24 or something. So now I'm like 32. And I feel like you could watch me grow up over time.

And I've matured over time before, you know, I was just always trying stuff out or I was trying to be like, like I was always listening to Eminem and Louis CK. So everything about me was just provoking people all the time. And then I learned and I realized like, I'm not really enjoying my life. I had, I had about, I've never even talked about this. I've had like two times I was admitted into a 72 hour hold. Okay. for suicidal ideations and stuff. So I was like in a really fucked up place

and a lot of meds and shit. I've talked about that sort of. And now it's like some people kind of miss that side of me. A, that wouldn't fly by on YouTube. And that's not why I didn't do it, but it wouldn't fly by on YouTube anymore. They just keep striking me down. But B, it's,

I just feel like I've grown, like what you're talking about being a little bit, because I can get affected by comment, sure, but I am not as affected as I used to be. I'm certainly not bulletproof. I'm so they don't have that rhinoceros skin I've heard about forever. but I am significantly more comfortable in my own skin.

Where I can have a genuine conversation with you, whereas before I would feel like, I have to come on. I got to try to make people laugh all the fucking time. And now it's, I think that's a big part of, you can kind of watch us grow up here. Yeah, it's getting comfortable, right?

And it's that thing. And it's like, from performing at the comedy, certainly the microphone has been a part of my life and comfortable for a while, but it's that type of stuff of understanding. Because even back in on Shmo's, like I would do certain things,

on screen and I would say, oh, that's how I would handle a heckler in a comedy club. And that always worked out. People thought that was hilarious. But it doesn't play that way. If people don't understand that certain side of you and understand they just think you're screaming and yelling. Yeah. And it's like, oh, well, that doesn't really play as much anymore on that sort of on that type of thing or listening or getting affected by certain comments. Like there's things that happen all the time where like some perfect examples. Now what people like to say about anything, if you put like whether it's a woman or anything to people, why do I go, oh, I hear it's woke. I'm not going to watch it.

That's what everybody says now, right? Now, I'm not going to tell you that there are not certain times that there is certain things I think that because this is what Hollywood does in general. The Hollywood can say, well, we're supposed to just do this and do that in order to make sure everybody's a piece. So we're going to do that. That absolutely happens. There's no doubt about that because they're like, well, we don't want it.

We don't want them to yell at us. So we're going to do this. Does that happen? Absolutely. It happens. But you can't fucking say that about. Everything. No, you just can.

It's like, well, I saw someone say it, well, you know, this, this, she Hulk. It's woke. So Stan Lee was woke because that's what Stanley, Stan Lee did that fucking, that was the whole thing that what Stanley did. He, he wrote Shee Hulk as, that's, there's no difference. And it's like, you can't just say that because there's some fucking crazy war going on because there is. There's been a war going on with the fandom for years. Yeah. for, I don't know, three, four, five years.

And it's just so, I'm not going to say that, okay, guys, just end it. Because it's not going to end. There's no fucking way. You look at the way the world is. It's not going to end. But I don't, I feel like I want to be like William Wallace in the beginning of the fucking thing. It's like, you got to fight.

It's like, I want to stay out of the wars. Yeah. I'm out of it. I just, I just want to sit around. I want to play, I want to play some, I want to have some fun. I want to do that. Like, I want to have, that's all I want. And I just want to goof and talk movies about people.

I don't want to get into this whole thing. Well, what do you think about the social thing? It's like, never been like that. Never wanted to do that. And I think that I explored it a little bit more at Clyder Live where I'd go into certain things, talk about things. And it's like, because that's the kind of shit in like, like, it's funny. And it is it not a dig on, on Roxy or Josh or Riley or any people that I did it?

I fucking hate Collier Live. I hate it. Like, hate it. Like, people bring up, oh, I love Clyde Live. It's so great. It's one of the biggest dark spots on my entire fucking career. I hate it. Not the people that I worked with love Josh and Roxy and all them and had fun with them,

but I fucking hate that show. And same thing like Jedi Council. Like those things, they felt like corporate. And you're like, really? That was the show that I found you for him too. And I'm glad,

but I was not me. I was not like, this is the most me I feel like I've ever been. You can't say what you just said back then. No. You can. Because it's like any of this. What am I going to work?

Hey, guys, I fucking hate this show. This show, this show is. This show sucks. And you guys, well, we got to talk about this today. Fuck you guys. And I did that once and I almost got canceled. But all that.

That's a great day. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. But even that, even that, I went on Christie fucking Lemire show the other day. And, like, I've talked about this. She's about being open. I've talked about it many times over that. That whole fucking thing that went down.

Like, I was, like, my brother died when he was 37 years old. And that's not an easy thing to handle. It just isn't. Like, you know, and I, and people that recently, friends that have, have lost siblings. I say, and a friend of mine who also lost a sibling,

we've said it, it's the worst fucking club in the world to be in. It really is. And you carry shit with you, you carry anger with you, and you carry stuff with you for a long time.

And as we just talked about earlier, if you're not, if you're not talking to anyone, that shit can bottle up. And if you think, well, I'll let work, work will substitute

and work will get, we'll bury it. It doesn't bury. It just festers. And that shit festered for a year. and I fucking came into work that day, furious at the world, just mad at the world,

and fucking just went off, except I did it on air, and I got fucking caught in the jaw. I made that mistake, yeah. I got caught on the jaw. And, you know, people who didn't like me, clipped it out, fucking went after me,

and rightfully so, people who were like, what the fuck you, what do you care about whether or not you got invited to a fucking theme park? What do you care? I was like,

rightfully so, fucking come after me. And then there are people who know the story, don't know the story. And I go, look, not happy about it. went in and had a bad day you ever have a bad day on air i had a really bad day in there and i fucking caught caught caught caught it on the jaw but i went on christie lemur show's like oh i can't

watch this guy after the whole fucking outburst he had about a theme park and i'm like that can i it's a thing i got to carry with me yeah there's no doubt about it fortunately it sucks but it's like it's one of those things but it's why i always tell people if you're if you're going through shit whether you're on the air or not if you're going through shit talk to people that's why by the way that recently I spoke to you for as long as I did because I didn't want to carry that shit around again because I was getting into a place where I felt

that again when like read I some fucking Reddit thread about how like I'm on on how I was the one who ruined the schmowdown and this and this and I'm going through it and this is one particular guy that just kept coming after me and it fucking just put me in this place and I'm like I can't let that happen again.

I cannot. I cannot for not even for a selfish reason of because of you know it's going to carry it around again. because I don't want people around me to deal with that. And so you've been around it. You know, you understand like that you've gone through shit like that too. Yeah. That's why today's video is sponsored by BetterHelp.

Is the true? Use the code real reject. No, I fully, I mean, I made a lot of, you know, one time I don't really talk about this.

One time I had a breakup and I went on camera and it became like, fucking other people started reporting about it. And I was like crying on camera about a breakup. And that turned to a nightmare. And I was like, why the fuck did I do that? I took it down like within an hour, but it got like so many views and people were talking about it.

So it was really embarrassed. I don't, I don't generally like, no, I feel like I've talked about it plenty enough already, obviously. So, but like I've made human mistakes.

And that's the problem. That's the thing when you have a channel, you're on the channel, you have access to everything, you control everything. You get in, you get your hands on shit. But even at the start of this channel,

when this channel, when real rejects started growing, you know, like the 2013, um, the different girl, uh, had a breakup,

grandma died and dad died and then I went gung-ho with the channel right and and I said and like I said it was listening to like a lot of Eminem and Louis CJ's everything was about like provoking yeah and I took adopted this personality that was like a satire of like a Judd Apatel like character we were just all about like a whole bunch of just like borderline races borderline sexes like it was all satirical but the idea was I put on the name Ryan Wright right which was the thing to hide behind to get away

with these jokes and that was all stemming from a place of a lot of pain. And so when I look back at that, Ryan Wright, even though some people really can't tell the doors, but when I look back at that of why I always had to be like a dick joke every single day, it felt like, and I bring a lot of female guests on,

and a big part of it was like doing bits that made them feel uncomfortable. You know, and I really feel like, like sometimes it's funny to go back and watch it. Like, man, I can't know one can get away with it. any of these jokes that I'm making some of these videos right now. But a lot of it was also stemmed from a place that I wasn't truly in tune with myself.

Like I remember when I met you, I felt uncomfortable when I would go anywhere and under this name and having this certain image. And a lot of that was stemmed from a place of a guy in pain who was escaping through this alter ego by hiding behind a different name and feeling like I should just make all these jokes to provoke people. And now, yeah, it's like I've been, I've been in therapy for like over 10 years now. Yeah, I'm not sure it's been helpful tremendously. It's been one of the most beneficial things. To this day, I never want to go to therapy.

Like, every time I go to therapy, I never want to go. But whenever I leave, I'm so glad I went. And that's what I'm saying. It's just like, so don't, so if you're out there and you need someone to talk to, find someone to talk to. Seriously, because it's tremendous how much it helps and how much like damage it can do if you don't. Yeah.

It really can. And I try to tell people that. And even going back to, like I said, I used to be combative in the comments. And I like when someone would say something, but like, well, fuck you.

So everyone's while, I'll be like, today. I still go. Everyone's what I'll do, I'll do like a smell my farce. I'll do like a smell my farts or something. But it,

but I'm laughing about it. I'm laughing about it. I don't get, I don't, I'm like, well, you know what, but,

blah, because it doesn't help. And it doesn't, it also doesn't help me in trying to talk. Like when people will come out, like if someone ran, like, because you can't also think that everyone knows your story.

All they see, going back to the same thing. like I said, going back to that whole scenario, to them they saw that clip. They don't, and maybe they don't watch my stuff. The hell of the fuck that they know about anything with my history. They know what they saw. And to them, they have their image, like the same way that we watch a TV show

or we watch an interview with somebody. You see one interview with somebody. They see Jamie Fox is on some show you tune into. You've never really heard Jamie Fox talk. He had one interview. He said something. I don't fucking like that guy. I saw him say this thing on thing.

And then meanwhile, Jamie Fox could have 75 other interviews where you watch them and you fucking like him. You watch that one. you don't like him because you saw what he did that day you don't like him and that's fair that's what you saw you don't have to well you should have watch his other stuff fuck you I don't want to watch that though that's that's what I saw and that's part of that person's penalty so that's who that person

is not fair to them but it's also not unfair to you to have that because that's what you're watching at that time so I get it I don't have I don't have personal beef with somebody when someone comes in and goes hey you know you did that thing with the theme part which I recently said on campus on campy show last week and somebody wrote that on the thing and I wrote look and I told them the situation

basically what I just told you. The person said, I had no fucking idea that that happened to you. He's like, I'm sorry, I deleted my comment. I didn't realize that's what you're going through. And I, and I, and I apologize. I don't need that back from everybody to say that. But I want to present that to someone to go, oh, I didn't know that. Or they can go, well, you still did that.

Well, fuck you too. People are going to do that too. So it's like, it's only on me to be able to say, well, hey, I'm talking about it. Now I'll let you know that this happened. You can either say, well, I still don't like it. Go fuck yourself. Or you can say, okay. cool. Maybe I'll check out or you can say still I feel for you but I still don't like your face

and I'm going that's that's that's everybody's right. I think I've seen you mature a lot and I like this because like we've known each other for a long time. I'll feel like we became real friends and I think the last like two years it became really good. Yeah. Yeah. It's when I had an emotional experience which mode. Well yeah and that and that was but that I had to call you and I was like oh Christian's really hearing me out right now. But that but that was the thing is that because like as you say. Yeah. I hand, like that was the thing a lot of people don't realize that too is that when you're

dealing with a hundred plus personalities. Yeah. You do become the person that they are like they want you, whether people, like all time people like I someone so and so was my favorite. So and so did this. So and so. The reason why Christians do this because I had somebody recently say that we were fixing the fucking game and like, like, oh yeah, they fixed.

They had options and you asked me the harder one. It's like, no, no. what it is in the document the way that we would do it because we'd tape seven matches in a day. So the way you would do is like there'd be three pointers. And so there's like four three pointers. So you go, okay, which one. And you forget the announcers have about 10 seconds or so

to fucking, okay, here it is. You got to pick a question. These are the three or four options that you have. Boom. So you can also say, oh, well, there was another one that could have asked, but at the time, that's those you have like again three or four three pointers three or four five pointers whatever it might be but that type of stuff people think you're playing favorites think you're trying to

get the other person and that shit happens all the time so but and it is this balance of like friends and workers right but like with you is so different because you would you would come in and like you were coming in like a lot of people to have fun and do all that stuff and like when i heard you were having like a bad experience i'm like i don't want that's not that's a not what i want Greg to be feeling at all during this. And B, I don't want my friendship to be affected by it. So that's why I was like, and I think that it sometimes helps when you're like, well, nobody gives a fuck.

And then you're like, well, wait, the guy who's running this does give a fuck. That should make that. It meant the world to me. As I thought you were thinking it's stupid. And then I was like, oh, this is a completely different side of Christian that I have not had an interaction with about yet. Yeah. So that was, that was very, that was very meaningful to me that you talked.

That was a similar thing with Koi, actually. Like the fact that Koi even recruited me on the team, I was like, Koi knows who I, I really felt like no one really knew who I was. And so, you know, and the fact that Koi was like wanted me.

And then we became good, like great friends. We're super, super close. So that, that's what I mean. Like, I've had a different experience of Shored on that's been very influential

and impactful in my life and then getting to know you through there. So it's pretty weird how like, I've become much closer with you. And now the Sprout 10. Yeah. And now we're here. So, look, and I hope, and it's, like I said, it's, it's harder for you to get out here. But I told you, and we've been trying to make this happen for a bit, whenever you're available,

I'd love to be. Because what I want to do eventually once, because we're going to redo this whole studio. And then I want to have you on with Roxy and Brett, you know, so we can goof around and have a little bit more of a, of those goofy times we can have, too. There's other things that any time you want, you're always welcome here. That dynamic, the three of your dynamic is just awesome. Thank you. It is seriously just awesome. I appreciate it.

Yeah, I love having Roxy back. And that's what I'm saying. Like as much as I didn't like that experience, like Roxy's like, right or die when it comes. She's so, you will not find a more loyal person in this world than Roxy Treyer. She's such a loyal,

good person who is just like, and research wise, holy shit. She's like, she can do, I can't wait to interview people again with her because she's like so good at it. So to have her back on,

with Brett and then Kate's back to, and then Wednesday. in Koi and we're going to be doing some really fun stuff here. So I'm excited for it. I'm excited for it, man. Are you going to D23? Because that was kind of what, no,

you're not going to go. Because you can react to the stuff. I have someone going for you. To represent us. Okay. Who's going for you guys? My friend Aaron Alexander, who's been on the channel a bunch.

He's had experience with this. So he's going for us, but it's like, I've seen people who go to Comic Con and then go to their trailers and then try to, go to their hotels and then react. It's hard. And I'm like, this is so fake.

And I just can't do that to the audience. And I like to prep a video in advance. So. And I also want to clarify. Some people think like I didn't give a shit about when I was on Schmodeown. Like I'm going to make this little bit about me. Like I would goof around and stuff. But people don't realize like, you took it serious.

I still took it serious. Didn't you for a while? You played? You fucking almost beat Mike. Yeah. I took that match seriously. But even when I was like a goofball. Like I remember the last time I went, I was, I was dealing with so many things.

and I showed up having, is that, you mean? In studio? Yeah, yeah. And he had to like talk to me and the court's having to call me. I was hyper stressed. Oh, right, right. I was like seeing white. It was really,

I've been a while since I've been that like furious. I was talking to my fiance. She was having to try to calm me down. And then it was like, fuck, we got a film. And then, but I took it seriously.

And it was the most fun I've ever had. But a lot of people don't realize it. Like, even if I'm, you're goofing around like that, it's still, you're still taking it seriously because your goal like, okay,

Now I understand my position is I have to try to entertain. First of all, what people don't realize, if everyone says you don't take it seriously, people also don't realize you were part of the first live event we ever did. Yeah, and I gave a shit. I cared a lot about it. You sure did. Even though the act is like you don't care.

You were in a lot of matches. You play against double toasted, against like, yeah, it was fun. Tons of matches. And you always took it serious, even though, you know, we were goofing around. That's part of your personality. I never, I never took it that you didn't,

that you didn't take it seriously. Because people who didn't take it seriously wouldn't do it more. than two or three times. True. I mean, I think, like, I'm a big part of why my fiance and I click,

and I think you've talked about this with your wife, about your wife too, is that my fiance, she genuine, like, we're on YouTube and I think a lot of people, even the ones who adopt the persona of like, I don't go fuck. You kind of do.

Because, like, you're doing this. You're on camera. You want to be recognized. And like, that's just the reality. There's always a bit of wanting a little bit of validation or recognition. Even if you're putting out there that you don't, is that part of you that does.

Sure. where my fiance, I think, what's so great that I've literally learned from her, she is, she truly does not give a shit what other people think about her. And she knows how to just stick true to her own beliefs and opinions without feeling like she has to placate or be validated by anyone else. It's awesome. It's a true strength. As someone who's on camera all the time, it's a great strength to have.

And that's something that I feel like has been an influential part in my life. How did you guys meet, by the way? We met at Barna in El Tahano. I found a she was a therapist for autistic kids and then I go to therapy. And I was like, it's hot. So, yeah. Anything psychological. I still have never met your wife, by the way.

Never met my wife? Yeah, she's, I know she's right over there. She's right. She might be. Well, you know, I tell this story now that it's the last, this Monday, she's in a very different state, which is great. She, my, both of my kids are at school now. Oh, cool.

And they have, she hasn't had a free day like this in like 10 years. So she was playing, I said this, she was playing George Michael's freedom in the kitchen the other day. dancing around. She's like, I'm going to the mall today. It's like, we had breakfast the other day. She's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, 15 years younger, you know, so like she's in a, I don't know, the chances of

she's not even fucking home. Who knows where she looked at you in the eyes for the first time in 10 years? She's like, who are you? She's like, oh my gosh, she's like, you leveled up. I think I'm, I think I'm still attracted to you. Yeah. Should I think. But yeah.

So, but anyway, I, to jump into D23 before we, literally it's going to be the, we're probably title it a D23 thing and it'll be the last thing we fucking talk about. Piss off people. Quick mate. But yeah, if you didn't get a good conversation at this, I don't know what to tell you. But D23, there's a lot of speculation. In general, not just on the Marvel stuff, but let's talk about what do you think the major news going to come out of D23.

It could be Marvel, it could be anything. The stuff that you are pretty sure is going to hit on D23. I mean, I think everyone pretty much knows, like, we got to know who the fuck the fantastic four finally are going to be here. You think they're going to be announced? I think 100% are going to be announced. I mean, I did not expect it for Comic-Con, but I fully believe that they're going to be announced.

Dr. Doom also, you think? I don't think. I hope they do not. I firmly believe Dr. Doom's going to be in it, be in Phase 6. Yeah. I hope they conceal them. I agree with you. That's what I agree.

That's my wish is that if Marvel can get their leak situation under control, if that happens to not be revealed, Like the big rumors that it's going to be in Black Panther, Wakana forever post credits. If that's true, don't reveal it. I don't want it to be real. I really hope that.

Like, oh my God, it is like that's him. Like, cool. Yeah. So I, I,

that's my main wish. I do think we are going to get something with mutants related. The X-Men, you think? It has to be, I don't know about X-Men, but I feel like something, maybe,

we've heard that talk about like the mutants. Yeah. And I feel that, I feel that, I think Star Wars is going to regain a lot of hype, though. See, So we'll go back to Marvel in a second.

So Star Wars then. I hear that acolyte. Everything we're hearing about acolyte sounds awesome. You've got to assume they got to play with acolyte here for a lot of different reasons. The reason why there was nothing at spectacular. It was spectacular. There was nothing at my brain is. There was nothing at celebration about acolytecite at all, at all, except I think Amanda Laugh confirmed their appearance maybe.

No, it was a Comic-Con that they did that. but the Ackle has had a few like a leaks coming out recently. Yeah. That usually means that there's more gearing up and amping up towards it. And even Amanda L is in the news, whether it's positive or negative with the stuff going on with the DMs and shit. But I think they are going to announce a release date for that show. I think we'll get some images from that show. I would love if they actually announce that Darth Plague is in the show.

I doubt it. But I would like to see something. as far as just photography cast. That would be good for me. I think that it's a Lucasfilm and Marvel panel. So I'll give kind of my thoughts why I think's going to happen. And I'd love to hear you agree to disagree.

So Accolade, I think, will have something. I think they're going to show, because at that point, at September 10th, Andor will be a few weeks behind. They'll probably do some Andor stuff still because they're going to hype right before it comes out. I think they show the Mandalorian thing again. I think they show the Asoka thing again.

And you probably get... I'll probably go online. Yeah. They'll probably go online. And they'll probably show a little bit more... You might get a little bit more cast. You might get Ezra. You might get, um, uh, what's his face?

Thrawn. You might. Uh, and then you might hear some stuff about skeleton crew, but I think it's a guarantee we get some kind of teaser for Indiana Jones. Oh, I didn't even think about Indiana Jones. It's out in the summertime. Oh, damn. And they did...

And they did... And Willow. And you'll get something about Willow. I always say Will, like, oh, Willow. But like, I'm looking forward to, I just, I don't think that Willow should have been talked about at celebration. I think it should be talked about now. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So what do you think as far as the, the Lucasfilm panel? What are we going to see? I think, I think the same thing. I actually forget Willow is Lucasfilm. Yeah, right. I forget that. Right.

It's kind of, it is weird to associate that because you should, yeah. You say Lucasfilm, you just say movie Marvel. You've seen Marvel Cinematic Universe, Lucasfilm, Star Wars universe. But yeah, I think that would be awesome to get all. I mean, I didn't see any of the leaked footage of any of those. things though. So actually I didn't have any, oh you mean the act of Assoca and mandolorean. Good, good. Stay away from it. Obviously, you definitely should stay away from it. But, but it's, I hear, I'm not super excited about, I'm hearing rumors about a book of Boba Fed season two.

Yeah, that and Obi-1, you know, I don't, I don't, season two. I mean, I didn't mind Obi-Wan, it's just, I don't need a season two. I wouldn't mind Ewe McGregor in more stuff. Yeah. Hayden Christensen and more stuff. I don't think it needs to be in We want a series again. And Boba Fett, it's like, not unless they're going to really retool that character. I don't like the good, happy Boba Fett, who, Jamie Costa was on the other day, it was hilarious. He was talking. He goes, everywhere he goes, like, what are you doing?

I am Boba Fett. We know that. You keep saying that. It's like, do you need some help with your speeder? I am Boba Fett. We fucking know you're Bobafet. We get it. I don't know.

I don't know if we need, unless they're going to go full on. Tonya supremano, gangster style, like, really go that way. Yeah. But I don't think they're going to do it. Let's get the hell out of that time period. Let's go. You're ready to, skeleton crew is going to be in that time period. Let's get the hell out of there.

Let's go, you're setting up the High Republic in the Ackleite. Play there. Yeah. Like, let's get some more stuff. I don't know what they're so scared of. I would love for them to do something truly dark. Maybe focus on a Sith character or something like that. That's what the Akelette is supposed to do.

Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, like a live action would be great. Was Akelet's live action? Yeah. live action, right? Yeah. I constantly get it confused if it's animated or live action. I know, I know. The only animated that they have is, and they probably show, and that's the

other thing, too, that, I get nervous with the Lucas film D23 panel because Marvel is going to steal is going to be the star of that show. D20, I mean, Star Wars was, well, they had the hype of, Eddick and Satan Christians is coming. Right. Right. Right. That was pretty

monumental, right? Because I, I didn't hear about that until D23. And I was like, this is fucking bananas. Yeah, right. So unless they have some type of special announcement up their sleeve, but usually their special announcements are reliant on nostalgia. Yeah, I know, but they have, but they have so much that they can put.

And the other thing we're not talking about is what the hell's going on with that Tycho a Tini movie. Right. Right. So is that going to be in a lot? Is that going to be talked about? Are they going to bring up an answer? I could see them canning it after.

Absolutely. But they, but the question is, from what I've heard, rumors are they actually, are shooting a movie already. Oh, really? I don't know if it's there, that movie, but I hear, who knows, maybe they bring that up or not, the Patty Jenkins movie, we're going to hear anything about that. It's apparently because at one point it was canceled.

Now it's not. I don't know, but my point is, though, I think that the panel's like 10 the morning on Saturday. And it doesn't say how long the panel is. If it's a two-hour panel, like 10 to 12, okay, then maybe the Lucasfilm panel is like 45 minutes, like almost an hour, and then they both get an hour each, then you might get a lot. of cool shit from both but if it's only like an hour an hour and a half i'd say lucas film you're going to get like 20 minutes 30 minutes a majority of it's going to be and or they're going to not

give a lot of shit out and then marvel will just come in throwing haymakers and probably give you all of phase six it's probably just going to be announcements too from marvel yeah i don't know what trailers they would show probably another black panther one because it's it's not too at that point you're only going to be like two months out from the release and they they tend to hold on to their trailers Yeah. Is there a Disney Plus show for Marvel that I'm totally forgetting about? Is it what secret? Is Secret Wars the movie?

It's a show. That's a show, right? Isn't Secret Wars the beginning of, I don't know. I've lost track of so much. There's so many of them. I think it's in the beginning of January of February. There's something that comes out. We could get a teaser for that, I suppose.

Could be. And then what about what if season two? Maybe you get something. Because I remember they showed what if season one. You see, that is what I, like, Star Wars is a vast. Everything is a long, long time ago. Galaxy 4 where I'm like, do a multiverse show of Star Wars. They talked, there was a what if comic book for Star Wars.

Yeah, but I don't know what. I mean, I would love to see some type of cool, even if you use some of your legacy characters and did an alt universe of it. I think that would be really cool. What if Anakin never went bad? Anakin never went to the dark side. Something to make them more compelling in that regard. I'm like, that's that you have the galaxy.

You have it established. Just don't even get me started on all the stuff that they could be doing over there, man. Like I, like there's like I even how fun when I brought this up to the day and I, I, I say it enough because I'm always crossed my fingers that someone will steal it. Right. Like the, an idea of like an anthology series live action with Star Wars and just call it the Star Wars show. And every like every week what, what's on the Star Wars show? I don't know, man. I'm hearing that this whole episode is just about Vader and Palpatine. I'm hearing that this whole episode is just about Asoka and so and so. I'm hearing this whole thing is about the old republic. Yeah. And it's basically what visions did. The visions did. The visions. Did you watch any visions? Yeah, I like visions. So Visions was not canon, but it did that, explore different time periods, and it was essentially just a Star Wars show. Yeah.

That played in every area, and it was great. I thought was awesome. Do a live action version of that. You can play in any time, and there's no expectations, and there's nothing. Oh, well, do an Obi-One episode. Do whatever. They're weirdly restricted to, they've, and they're not restricted. They've restricted themselves to this very specific chunk of time.

Yeah. When I'm like, you're the galaxy. Do whatever you want. And it's always crazy, though, too. And they talk about the multiverse and everything, but. But Star Wars. Which is the only place that it really makes sense. Yeah.

Time, like, they did time travel. And they had the veil, the, and that they reveal, is it the veil? Then rebels. In rebels. In rebels, not the veil, but it was called the, a shoot. What the fuck was that called? Oh, they said, no. That got Osoka back.

Yep. Yeah. Oh, man. Not the wolves of time. Yeah. People are going to be screaming at us in the comments. But either way. I thought it was the veil.

No, it's not the veil. It's not the veil. But I, because I, the shit. I can't remember, but they'll yell at us. Anyway, that has been explored.

I always say, it's people would, no, I don't want time travel in Star Wars and I get it. It's the only place that, that really makes sense because, fucking wormholes and shit, man.

Wormholes, light speed, like the way that time works on different planets and other things too. Like, when you go, like, I always thought interstellar was a movie

that I thought was so fascinating when he goes to that one planet. And time is not moving, like, moves here. It moves faster. It's fucked up, man. And it never happens on other, on other, uh, in Star Wars. Like every planet and everybody talks the same in every atmosphere is breathable. Right. I speak English too. Yeah. But that's, that's, that's, that's, that's the sci-fi fantasy element of it all. Yeah.

That's where interstellar was science fiction. Um, so you can get away with the fact that you can actually hear the gun, the blasts in space. You can't hear the blast in space. But who gives you shit? Because it's a sci-fi fantasy. But, um, if you go back to everything we're talking about, I'm more excited about the theories or the, or the what we want to see Star Wars do that I am for Marvel announcement. For Marvel. It's true.

It's a fictional thing that Star Wars is not doing. Well, but that's, but that's, you know what that is. That's because you already know and you trust in the fact that we've just talked about it, Hall H. Fikey comes out, delivers, and doesn't even give everything because he's going to save it for D23 because you know he's done it enough and he knows how to satisfy the fans and that they have a

full cut plan. The reason you get excited about the ideas of Star Wars is like, because they're not doing it. doing that. And everybody, I said this other day, everybody, whether it's Warner Brothers or Star Wars, everyone's like, we want to, we want to fight you. Everybody wants to be Marvel, but nobody's trying to, nobody's following those steps. They've got Faloni and Favro in place. Make one of those fuckers to head. They would be the fight. They would absolutely be the fight. But you got to put them in place because they're like, well, they are. They're not because they didn't, they, they, they have like a

credit on Obi-Wan, but they, and, and even Boba-Fet, Favro was in charge of a lot of it. But it was really Robert Rui was leading the charge. He also wrote a lot of it. him. Fever did, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, right, and that's the show he wanted to do, but you should have somebody in place that's designing, like, a plan that, did you ever read the Thrawn trilogy back in the day?

Did not. So Timothy Zon did a, it was like, after Return of the Jedi, Timothy Zon did the Air of the Empire series, which is essentially like the only real Star Wars material anybody had afterwards. And it was, it was like, that's how Thrawn first kind of came into play. And it was, right, it was like five years after Jedi. and Luke was at the height of his powers, and I sort of Marjade came into it and all this shit.

And then because of the way that the new movies kind of retcon, it wasn't canon anyway, but it couldn't put Thrawn in that position. Faloni reintroduced Throne as a canon into rebels. Yeah. So you could still do an idea of a Thrawn heir to the empire. Imagine like that scene in Bobafet, when Asoka says to Luke,

or Luke says to Osama, we'll ever see you again. And she's like, perhaps or whatever she says. I've been saying this. I keep saying this. I'm crossing my fingers that they do a Marvel type thing where they set up Asoka, they set up Thrawn, Luke comes in, and they set up this whole kind of mini event that's six episodes or whatever. Oh, that would be cool.

You know what I mean? And it's like, yeah, it's like what, damn? I didn't even think about that. That would be cool. What was the DC one that they did? Like infinite crisis. Crystal and Infinite Earths. Yeah.

Like, remember how big of an event that was when that all went down? Do that for Star Wars. Like, you're setting up the TVverse. And then it's like, imagine, like, Six episodes, the Thrawn series of Luke finally, but you're like, holy shit, you'd break the, you'd break Disney. Yeah. And this whole time you didn't realize we were building to that.

Yes. That would be, oh, that would be pretty monumental. That would be awesome. Fingers crossed. But then that would, wouldn't that fuck with Canon? How old? Obi-1 and Luke being in the same show? No, because, well, Obi-1 wouldn't be in it.

No, Obi-1 would not be in it. No, no, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not he's forced ghost. But, but, but no, he wouldn't be in it. Yeah, because you can't have that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you said it. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no.

It would be, it would be Luke and, you know, him. Luke is so. Yeah, getting involved and whether you can do it. And I still think it'll be tough to do. But with Deepfake technology getting as good as it does, the day that they're able to actually get, I mean, because look at how good that Luke looked in Boba Fett, right? The day that they put Leah, Hahn and Luke together again on a Disney Plus show,

it's going to be a moment. It's going to be a very high... It's a very controversial. It's a very controversial. But, I mean, they'll put Lay in again. They'll put her in again. Yeah, I mean, whether or not she puts him the three, but I mean, they'll put her in again. I mean, they might even do it in Andor.

Yeah. I mean, as long as Billy Lord and her daughter signs off on it, I don't, I think that if, I think that would be, I mean, look, Peter Cushing was in Rogue One and signed off on him. And maybe he'd been, he had passed away a kind of long time before that happened. but I'm surprised. I mean, Andor's really flying under the radar right now, but I got tickets to go watch Rogue One on IMAX. Okay, cool.

I wanted to, like, go experience that again. I've only seen Rogue One one time. How'd that reaction do for you, by the way? Not the greatest. I noticed that for all around the board. And it's like, I think it's one of the best trailer Star Wars has put out in years. Yeah, I mean, as much as we want Star Wars to be fucking more expansive

and do crazy yourself and try different things, bottom line is the thing that does generate monetary. success for Star Wars is when they are doing something that we're mainly familiar. Like, Mandalorian was the exception because it was brand new

and it was their first like Star Wars show. But he still had Boba Fett's armor. He still had Boba Fett's armor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whereas like we've only really got Cassie and Andor like in terms of most people.

Like I haven't taken the time to read him in other mediums. But Cassian Andor was just one movie. And he died, you know? Yeah. So this is the legacy of Cassie and Andor is not,

even though they have two seasons. and it looks fucking awesome. It looks great. And like the kind of, I liked Rogue One more than a lot of people did. Rogue One is my favorite Disney era of Star Wars. I think it's my favorite of them too, yeah. I thought it was epic and awesome.

It's the most, it wasn't when it first came out, but it's the most rewatchable, connectable to the overall thing. And like I said before, when I first of Force Awakens, so on board with that movie, still think it's a good movie. But my problem with it is that everything comes after it now. It's like, clearly they weren't even talking to each other.

So it's like, eh, it's just not, like when I watch it's just the point, it's disappointing. Rogue one's not disappointing to me because Rogue one leads right into episode four. Where Rogue one is,

is, delivers. What really hit me when, when, when Rise of Skywalker came out, I decided to rewatch all the Star Wars movies. Yeah. And by the time I got to Force Awakens,

I realized this feels like Disney's Star Wars. You know what I mean? Like you feels like a Disney film all of a sudden. Yeah, but you know what's tough about that? And I've been saying this lately. The problem is, it's still Lucasville.

film's fault. Even though it's Disney, and I shouldn't say fault, but it's still, it's still, like, if you're going to go, your Lucasfilm makes the decisions and you're sure, Disney is going to give you the money and Disney's going to say this and Disney might, uh, Bob Iger might have his notes. But they hired JJ, JJ, JJ came up with the, well, because the same way you look at Mandalorian, right, Mandalorian's under the Disney banner and Mandalorian feels about as OT as you get.

And Rogue one, which we're just talking about. Yeah, exactly. Rogue one is about is, and that's still under the Disney. Disney banner. So it's really, to me, I, it's really that fucking trilogy.

It's the trilogy. And it's, and it's the way that that thing was, it just was thrown like, okay, like I said, it was just made an old school movie mentality making. And it should have been made in the Marvel type of mindset of where's,

okay, we have a treatment. Like, like, hey, I got a fucking big thing for, these three movies are going to happen. This is going to take place.

We're going to get someone to direct one, and what Figey does is, okay, you don't like, well, This is where we're going. Well, I don't like that. Well, you have to do, you can, you can add stuff.

Look at Ryan Cougar. Ryan Cougar added so much to Black Panther, so much. But he still had to put stuff that connected to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Because he had to tell a story to eventually get to Infinity War. And there was none of that in the new show. He was like, oh, you want to do that? You can, yeah, sure, negate that person's movie. They're not directing.

Oh, you need to come back and you want to negate that person's movie? Sure. It's like, it was a mess. Well, I think, too, with, like, as much as Star Wars has outgrown George Lucas, the author and god of Star Wars, as much as, like, there are people who know more about Star Wars and George Lucas says.

And then I think it didn't help that, because I think that's a big part of what gave the prequel's respect, even though a lot more people have come around in them, I think what gave the prequels respect was like, it still feels like this is the complete story, this truly is Star Wars, even if you don't like the execution of the filmmaking,

it's still Star Wars. And George Lucas coming out and pretty much being like, yeah, they canned all my ideas, everything I really want to Star Wars to go. It didn't have his endorsement anymore. It just combats with what you're now watching. Yeah. And then it feels like a corporate product versus true Star Wars.

Agreed. 100%. And from everything that you heard about him, he really liked Rogue One. Yeah. From what when they say. He likes Mandalorian too. He likes Mandalorian as well. Mandalorian doesn't surprise me because of...

Faloni. And his connection with Faloni and the fact that he was... I remember when the Clone Wars TV show came out and I remember thinking, well, George Lucas didn't give a shit about the novels during his 10 years. year because he always he didn't really he's like finally just make money off him yeah but i thought that was what clone wars was going to do with animation and then i found out he was in the room all the time working and coming up with the stories all the time and teaching phloney this stuff all the time and you're like oh okay you can tell like the philosophies of

star wars are all over clone wars i don't think i think george lucas should have been to figy he should have just stayed producer yeah the problem is i don't think george lucas had that yeah i don't think he'd ever be able to do that without, you know, because if you didn't use this particular thing, he took, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he, he's, he's, he, he still speaks out against the movies. He still gets, he still gets, he, those aren't my movies anyway. He gets so mad about it, but, um, but, but yeah, he, I don't think he'd be able to be the guy, like, I, I, I'm telling you, if, but he didn't direct empire or return of the Jedi, oh, he, he, was there a problem? Well, we'll say, we'll say he, we'll say he, we'll say he, we'll say he, we'll say he

didn't direct empire, that's just true. He pretty much directed that. Oh, did he? Richard Mark I was kind of like a ghost director. Oh, that's so funny. I'm actually not that familiar with the behind the scenes on it. I'll tell you a book you should read. It's called How Star Wars Conquered the Universe.

I may even have it over here. Chris Taylor. Okay. It breaks down. It's incredible. It's an incredible, incredible, incredible book. But with Kirchner was his, was George Lucas's teacher, I think, at USC. Okay.

So he came to him to direct it. And then at one point, you know, because George's, George was off, like, because this was right in, like, 1979 was when they were shooting it and it came out in 80. But like they were, he had, Lucas was out and about, you know, the company was blowing up. At the point is two years after the original Star Wars. So he's off doing a bunch of different things. And, and Kersner, he's like, I, Kershner was directing it. And then Kassden wrote the screenplay for it. And Lucas wanted to change a lot of shit. He didn't like a lot of the stuff, right? And he didn't like that. He liked, like, it's famously known the, the whole, the most famous line in Empire Strikes. back. I love you. I know. The original line was, I love you too. Lucas, right? Luce was not the best dialogue writer, right? And so he wrote that and he said he wanted it changed. But to his credit, they screened it, they tested it and he saw that

the audience like, I finally leaving it. Right. But like, Kirstner's like, you got me to direct this movie. Let me direct it. And he kind of stepped back a little bit and did it. With Marquan, Mark Juan, because they wanted Spielberg to do Jedi originally. And something happened with like the union or something that he couldn't do it. So Marquan did it.

And like from what we hear, it was not, Lucas just basically was directing that movie. I could see it now. I take back my foggy. But, but I think Follone, though, took all of those philosophies

that he took. And I think that would be able to implement all that. I wish Follone would pay attention more to the novels than he does. But that's a small grape. I mean, when I heard that, I've only seen that little bit when he's talking, talking with the directors, Faloni, and he's breaking down why the duel of the fates fight is.

So I'm like, holy shit, this guy's making me like Phantom Menace. And he's because, but that does come from George. And that comes from George. And that's why he's, George is his Yoda. He was trained by Yoda, you know, and so like that's, that's why I think, and you have, like, a, and that's why I think the one-two punch of Favreau-Feloni, because Favro's learning about the philosophies and everything, too, and certainly is a fan and learns a lot from Flon. but he's like a masterful with technology and directing and everything too and being in the live action space

and pretty much kick-starting or jump-starting the Marvel Cinematic Universe and the things he's been that he's accomplished. So that one-two punch could be powerful, but let him do it all. Let him give that to him. Say, okay, what do you need from me? Go build it out, do this, do that, do that, and then you guys run this and you guys map out the entire plan. And I like Debra Chow a lot. I'm a massive fan of Debra Chow. And I was, I think maybe though, I would, I think that the same thing they're doing with a lot of the different directors,

maybe directing a couple more episodes first and then then getting a, like, directing a series. Great. But I think she pretty much kind of show ran the whole thing. It's a lot of responsibility in your first Star Wars show. Yeah. A lot of things I would have changed on, on, on Obi-One. But what did you think about it? Did you love it?

It was a real up and down experience for me. Yeah. Same. Like we had, you know, like, again, through Shmoh. I met Ace Cabrera. Yeah. And we had an ace on for our reactions for it because he's such a big Star Wars expert. And I discovered that from this from the Snowdown.

I was like, damn, I didn't really, I've known Ace, but I didn't know he was his big Star Wars. Oh, yeah. He's very non-gum. Yeah. So having a mom was, was awesome. And he, of course, loved it. But for me, yeah, it, like, there are things about it. I enjoyed overall, but I kind of forgot about it after it was done.

I was like, I'm probably not going to watch it. Yeah. I don't really care. And that's the problem. Like, Mandalorian leaves impact. on me. I've rewatched Mandelorean one and two many times over. Mandeloreans the shit. Yes. Whereas Obi-1

somehow did not feel that significant. And it should have. It should have been the most intimate experience of Obi-1. Kind of like what Jamie Costor who was trying to do with the short film. And I felt like this should have been the most because if you're going to do a prequel where you know the characters are going to live, you know a specific

kind of outcome make up for it. It became so plot-heavy. Yeah. Then I'm like, I'm not really feeling stakes because you're so focused on the plot when I should be just more focused on the intimacy of this character and whatever personal affect this is having on it. Yeah, there was a lot of things. And I think that the tone and feel and kind of dreariness of like the Andor trailer. Yeah. Was kind of what I was hoping for, for Obi-Wan. Like that kind of-Andor looks confident.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Great direction. Great point. And I, but that's my point. Again, not taking away from Debra Chow who is a very, I'm a big fan of Debra Chow. But it shows, the difference, I think, in experience maybe so, like what Tony Gilroy is doing right now. Yeah. Gilroy, like, and there's a lot of things about Gilroy that scare me, though, too. I don't know how invested Gilroy is overall in the Star Wars lore, where I think Debra Chow was very invested in the Star Wars lore.

I think Gilroy knows he's invested in the Rogue One universe. He's making a film. He's a filmmaker. He is. But he's invested in the Rogue One universe. So you might see Hera pop up because she was in Rogue One. Anybody who's in Rogue One could show up. Sure.

I don't think he gives you shit about anything else. No, I really don't. I don't think he's a Star Wars fan. I think he's a Rogue One Universe fan. Yeah. That's all I need for this show. But I, but it goes back to my point.

I don't think Philonia Fabro involved in this show at all, at all. And they should be. So very interesting to see. But I do want to point out for, I actually, I did think some of the aesthetic nature of Vader was some of the coolest I've seen a live action. Absolutely.

Yeah. He was like a brutal force and he was. scary whenever he entered the room. Episode 3 or whatever it was, that was fantastic. I wish the music would have been better. Yeah, sure. I wish they would have to use more of the classic music. I like when he fought Riva.

Like, I know if some real start, like, I don't know if you have issues of that. For me, I'm like, I like it. When he fought Riva, like when he fought her. I just think that Vader that we saw would have killed her. Like, there was no. Oh, yeah, yeah. Leaving her, leaving her alive. Like, originally the screenwriters of the movie said he did kill her.

Yeah. they should it's like that to me it's like it doesn't matter who it was vater ain't leaving you alive yeah he's not leaving you alive and like that there's a little inconsistencies in certain things there was really cool shit there was like really cool shit and there was stuff like you're like and i'm never going to get over that that uh that run around in the woods with lea you watch it with the bany hill music yeah it's hilarious yeah oh it's hilarious anyway um and other than that at d23 i think those are the major things dr doom uh i think phase will be announced, like more so they'll start filling off phase six.

Yeah, I think we'll probably find out, like, everyone who's really in Blade, perhaps the villain of Blade. I feel, I do wonder. I was kind of surprised they unveiled like Avengers King Dynasty and Secret Wars at Com. I'm like, damn, those are massive reveals right there because now it's like what comes in between that. It's kind of interesting to reveal your finish line. And an interesting way to do that to say, because you know that they had that conversation where Fike's going, okay, look, this is what we're going to do? We know that we have all these movies planned out for Phase 6 and some in five. let's we got to give them something big at comic on.

Let's give them Fantastic Four and the two Avengers movies. You're going to do both the Avengers? Fuck yeah. Let's do both Avengers. All they gave us was a release date for that. That's it. That's it. That's all we got to do is just let them know it's confirmed.

They already know it. They don't know the directors. And that shit. Do all that at D23. But set this shit up because then they'll start talking. He's got a, that dude has, he's got a plan. He knows what he's doing. Like we talked about the very beginning of our talk,

he knows how to build anticipation. Like you can, whatever problems people were having with phase four, suddenly a lot of people don't even give a shame more because now you're caught up in anticipation again. Yeah, because you go, oh, okay. And phase four is like one of the shortest phases like ever so far. And then it like leads in like what's five going to be,

how's five going to play, what's six? I mean, I think like announcing Secret Wars and King Dynasty was enough room for anyone who knows what that might imply. Yeah. Was like, oh, okay. So have everything in phase four will. connect.

Like, it just suddenly clarified that. Even though that's what a lot of us were thinking, it solidified that belief. So I'm like,

damn, that, he is a genius. He is a genius. I have no, I, I am going to say there's a less than one percent

chance that happens, but I would be lying if I, I want this to happen. I want to leave D23. And like, yeah, the Marvel stuff is cool,

but holy shit, Star Wars finally came out and kicked fucking, major ass on their shit. Like, they announced this, the casting, this, the planet.

Holy shit. shit, who thought Star Wars was going to do that? Yeah. Because they have the IP to do it. They just never do it. But that won't happen. Also really quick. Deadpool 3, I think we'll get announced.

Deadpool 3 will definitely get announced. I agree with you. Because it's the, there's an untitled February Marvel picture. And traditionally, that's when it's come out and it's February. And they already have them writing it. Yes. It's sort of bit in the papers enough as it is. Right.

And I wonder if there's going to be any new series that are announced. Or maybe there's a, I think Loki season 2 they announced right of it too. like is Hawkeye or is Kate Bishop getting her own show? Is she going to show up in the other one, the Echo Show? See, I feel like, you know, there's all that talk about Young Avengers and it seems so obvious, but I keep wondering now if that's going to be a phase seven joint and probably not. I just feel like it would be kind of strange if they announced another, because they already have the Thunderbolts, they already have the Avengers movies.

Right. So they announce another team up movie in between them. I don't think they announced it yet. They have the marvels happening. Yeah, I don't think they're going to do anything within, I don't know. I don't know. Who knows? But I mean, I think that, because they are going to, they did say this,

the end of the multiverse saga at the end, after the second Avengers. So whatever that plays in it. Maybe, maybe you're right there. Maybe they hold young Avengers until phase seven. They don't announce anything from there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It kind of gives a little bit more reasoning to have. Like, they play the long game a lot of time.

Even though Marvel can feel rushed, they're also playing the long game. Totally. Do me a fellow, please. What? Get out of here. Now? Get out right here, man. Shit.

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