The Kristian Harloff Show - BAD MOVE?! Sony wants another Andrew Garfield Toby Maguire Tom Holland Multiverse movie?!

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

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What in the world is Sony doing? If you believe these rumors, if you believe these rumors, they say that Kevin Feigey and Tom Holland wanted to do a more grounded Spider-Man 4. That's what everybody's been talking about. Let's do that. Let's get back to basics. And Sony goes, no, no, let's do Multiverse again, put Andrew and Toby in there. how true it is, we don't know,

but it seems on brand, seems like a Sony move. So we'll talk about that. We'll see if everybody's on the same page, if that indeed is the case. Should they be doing that or should they be, you know, doing something else? Speaking about doing something else, Denzel Washington, if you watched my show from Wednesday,

Jeff Snyder, who pretty much breaks, I think, every news story on the internet now, is, who was on my show, and he talked about a few different things, but he had hinted, and he didn't really say anything. He just kind of hinted that he was pretty confident that he thought that Denzel Washington would be doing a big IP movie soon. Now, when he gave his percentages,

DC was the lowest, Star Wars was the second, and Marvel was the highest. So if that's the case, if Marvel did land Denzel Washington, where would he fit in? What should he do? So we'll definitely discuss that. Deadpool, wrapped filming. We got a, speaking of rapping,

we got a picture of Ryan's package for some reason in the promotion. So that was the thing, literally. And there are other stories. There's a lot of other stories. There's X-Men stuff, speaking of Wolverine. We've got a lot to talk about on Capes and Council today. So I'm excited that you're going to join us.

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Coy Chondro, Winston, A. Marshall, straight off of Varacus. We saw Dune in theaters last night, dude. We went to the re-release in IMAX. He had never seen it before. He hadn't seen it. So we did it out of the theater reaction. Dude. And people were, but people got mad at first at themselves, but they didn't get mad

of me because I wrote clearly, Dune re-release. Out of the theater reaction first time watching. Yeah, yeah, yeah. what I wrote. And people, a bunch of people said, I got fooled. I thought it was part two, but that's on me because it clearly says it in the thing. I didn't say Dune 2. No. I said Dune. You put, you put all the things that they just saw the words Dune and that was it. And they got excited for it. You had seen it because we talked about it, right? I had never seen it in the theater. Oh, okay. God. I had only seen it in, in, on the big screen on my house.

I remember how much we both liked it and I thought we talked about like the deep sci-fi of it. It's, it's so much better than theaters. It's so much better. It's so like. Yeah. And so that's part of the reason why I hadn't seen it. It's hard for me to see a spectacle film not in a theater first. It's very, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I would have been, I would have been a little more forgiving had I seen it in a theater. I understand. But watching it at home, it was terrible, like, to the point where I will probably never watch

Aquaman in the Lost Kingdom again, but, like, in a theater, like I said, you guys hated it. I was like, it's fine. Right, because it's a theater experience. Because I saw some dopey comment from somebody on our, uh, on our thing that said, I hope Christian take this in consideration when he says that movie shouldn't be on the big screen And I was like that's not what I said

Well I said was that there are certain movies That don't fit on the big screen anymore It's not just that The main thing you push is you're like as a man That is a father of two I would also like sometimes Because I'm tired to watch plenty of these at home At home

Because I got a good setup but that you Everybody knows There are certain movies You have to see the theater You have to see in the theater Yeah What I said during the pandemic was like, look, it's going to be tougher and tougher for certain movies to make it in the theater. It's just like it's becoming so much easier to watch things at home.

I just had a conversation with one of our patrons again. Like, this is a dude. He's a father of two, and he and his wife, they go out to the movies, and it's an event. We are privileged. We are very lucky that we get to see so many movies for free because of press screenings. That is not what happens to regular people. Regular people have to say, what am I going to see in the theater that I'm going to spend $100 just on tickets? Bro.

But I'm saying $100 just on tickets. I'm here with you now. But you know why? Because I think I told you guys this. So I ended up in a bit of a situation. Most people know I broke my leg last year. And so when that happened, I didn't notice that a credit card that I had had expired. So AMCA A list because it didn't renew my thing in a set amount of time, they said, well, you're banned now for six months.

because their whole policies, they don't want people signing up and canceling because, like, oh, the Marvel movies out, I want it now. So it's like, you have to either keep it going or you don't. Right. And so I am now in that position where I go, if it's not a screening that we have, and I really only have it to most of the superhero films at this point,

I got to make a decision, am I got to see this or not? Exactly. And think about it because, like, so if you and I go see a movie that we get invited to, and we see it, we leave going, it wasn't great, but whatever, because we're not, it didn't hurt our budgets. It wasn't a financial impact.

budgets. So if I go and I take my family, the stakes are so high. I don't do this for a living and I go, okay, I really want to see this movie. Do we want to see this movie? I hope it's good. All right, I'm going to do it. I'm going to spend $100 and my kids want some snacks. It's a night out. I'm doing this. I might have spent $150 and the movie sucks. You're going to hate the movie even more.

One, that's where something like an A-list and or a movie pass even though that was a giant fraud, though I think they're trying to make a comeback. It's so vital, especially if you have a family. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is where To that point, y'all got to answer this question. As, like, white folk, do y'all not sneak food into the movies? I mean, so not as much anymore.

But, like, it depends. Like, so, well, that's not true. It depends on where I am, what I'm eating. You know, if I'm not throwing things out. Fair. If I'm in the middle, if I have to go somewhere. You went to dinner before. If I'm starving.

And trust me, if you're the movie theater, you don't want me in there if I'm starving. If I'm starving. Also a bad way to have a good experience. Like, if you're hungry, that movie's a distraction. No, right. So sometimes I'll go and I'll say, you know what, grab something on the run, I got something, I don't want to get to add, but I also want to be considerate. I don't want to get something really stinky for people. Right, right. But if I get something and I'm like, okay, I'm put it

into my sweatshirt. All the time. I'm taking a while, because I also, and I've talked about it many times throughout the years, I don't like Desani. I guess I'm never getting them as a sponsor. Do you know why? They put salt in their water. It makes you thirsty. It's the only, it's the only water. If you look it in the back, it says salt. It's the only one that does it. So I always bring a water bottle of it. Because I don't want Desani. I agree. And the food of the theater like isn't up to par like generally. Unless you go to I pick

like we used to work with that was super expensive and I only went there because I worked there so everything was either and I was delicious in common yeah but like for two years I got used

to eating a movie but quality food but it's just hard to rationalize like $8 for a bunch of crunch and that's $8 for a bunch of crunch or like a chicken tenders at AMC right now it's $15

and it doesn't come with fries yeah so it's like if I'm a dude if I'm a dude that and this is where I need people to just wise up I'm a stop a chifelay but the problem is

sandwich I'm a sandwich I'm a sandwich I'm gonna put in my dad here. They need to restructure because that's how the theater stays open is, is they only get half the ticket revenue right after fees. And so the movie ticket is. So then the problem is the food keeps having to raise because they got to raise the rates for everybody. They got to raise like electricity going up.

Get better food. Get better food. But then people think it's highfalutin and only go to IP. Like people remember that people that I pick and be like, oh, this is such a special occasion. And I was like, yeah, people aren't going to wear like a little ascot to AMC. People are going to roll up with a Cumber fund. Like, oh, hello, yes, we're going. to the AMC. We're seeing Dune too.

Coy, that's how I used to get so much ass. Oh, yeah, 100%. Because you bring him to eye picking and be like, bro, this is free for me. Here's your five-star event. Oh, 100%. I used to bartend there. It was amazing. We got free tickets. There was a rule that it had to be a situation. Two weeks after. It can't be too new. It can't be too new,

but it also was, if it's going to be a full movie, you're screwed. You can't, you can't do it. But most of the time, all you got to do is wait like three days. And you're good. On a Tuesday, you're set. And so because I was bartending, all the bartenders took care of each other. So if I was like, hey man, yo, go ahead and get me a beer and like, she liked that liquid nitrogen content. Get her that one.

Do that shit for free. Oh, dude, liquid nitrogen is like the best way to be like, I'm fancy. And then you go in and the food, everything's 50% off. So I'm literally spending $25 to go on this date, but it would cost anybody else 150. Yeah, that was a good era. But we get back to the point. We share a very unique experience. No, no, no, no, but it all shows no matter what you're talking about.

we've found ways through our movie-going experience, through our lives, to cut costs. A lot of regular families that they don't do that stuff. But the cost for us is we don't get to watch anything without second. Like our entire movie experience is thinking about how we're going to talk about it. Sure. But like 24 hours a day, we don't get to. But I do think people get to enjoy things differently than us.

I don't get any. Small fiddles. You watch a movie for your career. We make $7 on YouTube. People that have actual careers make actual money. They can actually spend on movies. and actually enjoyed them, we make very little and limp by and don't be a corporate fuck. I don't know what I mean what I mean was because we're not corporate fucks we don't get to like enjoy shit

I feel you I was the only thing I was paid the checks that people think they do we'd be enjoying ship more is what I'm saying I would be a shit all day if that was really true if the shill checks were real I was chill all day I'd be out here shilling and javan man I'd be talking about the marvel's different I was over y'all's head wasn't it no I got it I just didn't know how to comment I am white. I bleaked knowingly. I went, I, the only other thing

Well, I will say about Aquaman, though, that did, the one thing that did piss me off is because the AMC A list, that's when I found out. I had to pay for that. Oh, that's. So you got the exact difference he is describing.

That's exactly. You got experience of paying for it. We found our way back. So, look, either way, the point is that it ain't easy, especially with prices going up, the economy in general. So you understand.

I just was trying to get that perspective more so where, you know, when you see people who are getting pissed off about, it's like any product, though. You're spending money on a product and you don't like it. There's, again, ways to express your frustrations about that product in a better civil way. But again, that's the problem with these things. You walk away. But either way, you get frustrated. You spend money on it and you hope for quality stuff. But, all right, look.

Alaska Airlines. Exactly. So let me, let's talk about some of this news, man, because I got to start with this thing. I saw this post. It's a major rumor. It's a major rumor. Sony wants Toby McGuire, Andrew Garfield, back for Spider-Man 4. And they honestly say Kingpin might appear.

This is Mark Cassidy. Though this shouldn't really be a surprise given the success of No Way Home. There's a new rumor that is claiming that Sony Pictures wants Andrew Garfield and Toby back for Spider-Man 4. Original big screen Spider-Man Toby Maguire and the Amazing Spider-Man star, Andrew Gar-Pie. Garfield reprised their respective roles alongside Tom Holland's MCU Webhead for 2021's No Way Home, and the movie went on to become one of the biggest superhero successes in recent memory. It shouldn't come as much of a surprise to hear that Sony is reportedly eager to replicate some of that box office glory by bringing back McGuire and Garfield for the next solo Spider-Man Adventure.

According to Daniel Rickman, the studio does indeed want both actors back to rejoin Holland for the currently in development, though not officially announced Spider-Man 4. He also mentions that Wilson Fisk, aka Kingpin, set to appear, but Vincent Dinoffrio has not yet entered talks. It's just a rumor for now, but again, would anyone really be shocked if this proved to be accurate? Of course, even if Sony does want Toby and Andrew back, it doesn't mean it'll happen. Rickman also hints at a possibility of a conflict of interest with Kevin Feigy eager for the movie to be more grounded, while Sony wants it to be huge. At any rate, both Garfield and McGuire have previously expressed interest in returning.

So even if they don't show up in Spider-Man 4, we say there's a good chance of them swinging by for Secret Wars. Tom Hollins and Dia will almost certainly return as Peter Parker and MJ, but the former is believed to be growing wary of playing the iconic hero, so this could be his final time in the red and blue suit. During a recent interview, the actor said he feels like he's becoming too used to the safety blanket of Spider-Man. There's a good quote here that you want to check out. Go to comic bookmovemovie.com. They do great stuff over there, especially Mark Cassidy.

I'm going to start here with this, and then I'm going to throw it to you guys, because I feel like this is a true story. I really do feel like this is a true story, and I feel like it shows how incompetent the, or how out of touch the people making these Spider-Man movies that Sony are. Because they, in a move like this, when you look at this, there's so many more opportunities for dollars that they want to go huge and they want to make some. so much money because what they see is we meet so much money off of no way home we got to do that again because all everything else we're making in spider man is landing in the dirt because madame web is not going to do well it's if it's lucky if it breaks even um no one cares about craven and venom three could potentially do well because it's got two movies that have done decently although the second one did significantly less than the first one so they need

something the first thing i've talked about this recently why in god's name After no way home, they didn't sign Andrew Garfield and Toby McGuire up to either a movie together right away after that moment that they had at the end or give them two or three single movies on their own and then join up for a mega one that they could have done on their own. Sunday opening weekend. They should have a Sunday opening weekend either done a buddy duo lethal weapon Spider-Man or each individual like or I do. Or Sam Ramey Spider-Man four instead of taking over Secret Wars. that now. Do not piggyback off Holland. You don't need them because Kevin Feigey, as much as we've been saying

he's making some decisions. You've been saying this forever. We've been saying this forever. The next Spider-Man should be a grounded neighborhood Spider-Man. This is a stupid move by Sony. Stupid. Go ahead. Tominson. I said this with you

last week that if you're going to reintroduce Toby and Andrew into this, then what you need to do is treat this like the grindhouse films and let them each have their own kind of like hour, hour and a half film

of like, what has Toby's Spider-Man been up to? What has Andrew Spider-Man been up to? And let that be the film. You do not need to reintroduce this idea of all three of them being in it again because we've seen it. Not only that, you have to remember that was an event. You cannot make

every single time that this happens be that kind of event because it loses its luster and then all of a sudden it's not special. But you've also, but what you did Winston in that movie was that everybody knew how good Andrew Garfield was as Spider-Man, but those movies weren't as well-received as the first two Toby movies and the Tom Holland movies. But what you did in that movie in No Way Home is you made him almost the most lovable out of the three of them. So to not jump on that immediately. I think the duo would be the cake and eat it too because it seems to me this is reactionary of the second part of this interview.

the article, sorry, the article saying he might not want to come back after Spider-Man 4 seems to be like, okay, if we're only getting one more time, we've got to put the three of them together again because it should be either them individually, which I would prefer,

have an Andrew Garfield third, have a Spider-Man 4 with Sam Ramey, have all those things. Tom Holland gets his own small film trilogy, which I think is more akin to what he wants to do, and then down the road, maybe have it be an event again. But if you have, this is the last time

Tom Holland's going to put on the suit, I could easily see executives being like, We only have one more chance with all these guys. But my concern is that will cost us all of the specialness of this ever happening down the line. So I'd honestly, if you're going to kill off Tom Holland, that's how you bring in Miles. If you're going to have one last ride with any of them, that's how you bring in Miles. And then you can have a new actor take over. But I don't see, unless they make them really contained and let Tom Holland get to act, I don't see him doing a trilogy, which is what you'd need to do.

You know, it would be so interesting. It's funny that you bring up Miles. Paul Giamotti is Spider-Man. Hey. with one walkie eye. I think you got to be filled in on what happened the other day, but we'll bring you in on it. I was going to say, as almost a bridge in between, and people would be mad at me for even suggesting that we push off beyond for a little bit of time. But because we're traveling through these various spider verses as it is, you have Miles accidentally end up in Toby's verse.

And so that Toby movie we get is Miles learning from Toby and we get to see him interacting in that. And then the next movie he ends up in the Andrewverse. And so that same live action Miles is now with Andrew before he ends up with Tom in the last one. And that might be maybe that's around Secret Wars. You got time because Secret Wars is going to be a ways off. And these would be Sony productions anyway.

That could be something that might be kind of interesting to be honest. Sure. But the only thing is that you don't, it's the same kind of conversation is you don't need it because. Sure. Because you have those movies that are super successful. People are going to see that third one. When it comes out, it's going to crush.

So Miles and Miles is going to get its own live action movie because of that. And because the Toby movie is so beloved by so many that if they announced a single Toby movie, then they announced a single Andrew movie. And then after both those movies crushed because they both would. Then you bring them in for their own movie that they come in. That's the third movie. It's one, two, three. Three movies that they're all doing. Then the worry of the...

Now, I don't know, because... I don't know the deal. And maybe you know this, I don't know. But because Sony owns Spider-Man, like when he was in Infinity War and Endgame, I would assume they get paid for that. I get a little bit of a cut, yeah. I would assume that.

So the argument to what you made, which I think is super valid in the, well, they're probably panic because of Tom Holland. Well, guess what? Tom Holland is going to show up in Secret Wars, right? And so you would assume these guys. How much more of an impact would it be if you knew that they had a movie that they was coming out,

and they had them, they'd have to move quick on this. But if they had their movie coming out, and then it leads to Secret Wars, then they get to meet up in that moment again. You know, like, oh, well, we made some money, because we had all three of our Spider-Men were in there. I mean, I agree.

I think there's also a concern of just volume, you know, like they were talking about at least three more movies. I don't know how much the market wants a movie of Spider-Man a year. I do, but I don't know how much... Let me ask you a question before. I don't know what you'd finish that point. But just to hear that, I'm going to ask the audience.

So I'm going to give you this in that market because I think it's a fair question. If I was going to give you guys either a Spider-Man Toby, Spider-Man, Andrew, and then a movie with the three of them, or Madam Webb, Craven, Venom 3, Venom 4, Craven 2. Morbius 2.

It's morbid time again. What would you choose? Oh, that's easy. I mean, I'm not arguing that. No, I know you know. But what I'm saying is Sony needs to pivot that direction if that's what they want to do because I don't think those three movies this year and then a Spider-Man every year. So it needs to be a distinction. But I would personally think that a one Toby and finish that journey because Sam had a whole plot outline would make close to a billion dollars if not a billion dollars.

I think Andrew Garfield would make $700,000 if not more. And I think Tom's are going to keep making money. But I don't know if they're afraid that if they do all of them, they'll all dip some versus the guaranteed big event. You know what I mean? So I would rather have Spider-Man with Tom Holland be a $70 million movie and have the one that he'd probably want to make, have a big finale for the other two. And then bring it together, yes, I just don't know if the market is. That's what they're scared. But Spider-Man, I think they're discounting how important Spider-Man is.

It's not just an Ant-Man or a Thor even. It's Spider-Man. You can make one of these a year, but I'm saying like reactionarily, I think they're afraid of what my little question was. I don't think that's the case, but I think the concern is like, oh, these numbers are dipping. Oh, okay. So, you know, according to some folks, I'm going outside of my lane here. So I've got to ask this question. What's another major franchise that Sony has under their belt right now as far as movies? Not TV because they've got a lot of good TV.

Is that the other one? How are those doing? Good. I mean, are they? Ghostbusters is on, the new one is on most people's anticipated list for this year. How did the one that just came out do, though? I mean, enough to warrant a sequel. So let's see, Ghostbusters.

What was it called? Was it Afterlife? Afterlice is the one. Ghostbusters, Afterlife. Afterlife box office mojo All right Ghostbusters

Afterlife 2021 So 204 million Right So I cannot imagine It made a lot Hold on 75 million

So yeah And it grows 204 So it definitely warrants A sequel So Does it though Because I thought

You got to do 2.5 Right It just depends on that A movie like that The marketing Is probably not going to be

100 mill Close to Let's say it's close to Plus to the other You know It's enough To warn a sequel. Okay.

I say all that to say what this sounds like, to be honest with you, if that's the only two things that they have right now. And so they have uncharted. I know that's getting a sequel and it did well. I think they wanted a little bit more, but it did like a half billion. Like it did well on the budget. Got a war is a property they have.

They're leaning obviously video games because they have PlayStation. I love Grand TRISMO. Oh, don't they have Sonic? Yeah. And they have Sonic. That's Sega. Is that? No, I think that's Paramount.

That's Paramount. Isn't Sony PlayStation? Sony's PlayStation, but Sega is Genesis's Sonic. So that's Paramount. But it's also a Paramount film. So, okay, so let's... Last of Us, right.

So I look this up. All right, here we go. So they got Spider-Man, Jumanji. I guess they technically have Bond, though. I thought that was bought by Amazon recently, wasn't it? They don't have Bond. Yeah, they just had distribution, I think.

Jumangi's huge. Jumangy's big. They have bad boys. I know that there's talks about one more of those. They're supposed to come out this year. They're filming them. Yeah, Peter Rabbit, Resident Evil, men in black, which didn't do well.

Hotel Transylvania. Right. Ghostbusters. So they have things, but the ones, like the successful ones at the moment in the, they have a couple, like if they're going to do, I don't want them to do another uncharted because I still, I thought that that would have been a better television series for sure. But they have Spider-Man. They have all these different things, but it's, I don't know. I just think the choices were not great. And then I want to, I want to move to, again, sticking with Sony and sticking with this whole thing is the other thing is that they're doing is they do.

Don't have someone to really keep a rain on this because if you believe the rumor, I don't think we've discussed this yet, Madam Webb, apparently, was going to have Andrew Garfield in it. And then they went, no, no, no, got to put Tom Holland in it because Tom Holland is the more popular one. So let's do that. And then they decided not to do it all together. And then they realized that they had so many, like they were going to put it in the 90s or something. It's like specifically 2003. It's like a really specific year by the billboards. So all the billboards are one year.

Right. So they had to cut out all their references to it. So they messed it all up and they had to cut all their references out. So somebody's not paying attention over there. Right. And so the other thing that then comes out is, I think it was the director who came on and said, this is a standalone thing. It's not connected to anything else.

You've just lost a ton of people that were going to go see this movie. I was genuinely hoping it was going to end with like the web that ties into Spider-Ververse. And it genuinely could. Like the spider totems. And now I really am bummed. That was the only reason people saw Morbius. It's because all the ads had Spider-Man. Well, that didn't, isn't that the point at which, or am I confusing with Venom?

I wouldn't swear was Morbius where all of a sudden Michael Key. Morebyes had a lot of the worst-credit scene ever. Yeah, but all of a sudden it was like, I guess I will because I got to see how this all connects with something. If you're going to have a shitty movie, at least have a connection to something that's better, so that I have a reason to see. And what I'm bummed about is I genuinely, and like, I'm very serious. I genuinely like the aesthetic that Madam Webb looks like it's taking influence from, but if I hear about the pre-production being that messy, it doesn't give me hope that the style that looks intentionally messy isn't just messy.

Do you know what I mean? Like even from a non-comic book perspective, me going like, man, I like those underworld. I like the really stylized, gritty, almost mini-divy camera. Now it feels like because of the quotes, that wasn't intentional. And that's sad because I hate knowing that much. And it's already getting, and the movie hasn't even come out yet, and people are already quoting the bad dialogue from it.

Like, it happened in the Amazon when the spider came in and bit my face and then took me out to coffee or whatever the hell. It's put it out for coffee. Whatever, whatever. Best adapted screenplay, Madam Webb. Whatever the line is, it's like, it's not good. And people have been quoting it. And, you know, and now this, it's a, well, what, because people, the argument, and someone will either wrote this in the comments already or is going to. They're going to say, well, why can't movies just to be standalone?

does everything have to connect to each other? Not all movies do, but when you're selling this off the fact that it's somehow connected to Spider-Man, yet it's not really. Then you didn't need what you could have done, to be honest with you, if it's like, why does it not have to connect? Then don't make it Madam Webb, the character out of Spider-Man. Take the idea of Madam Webb, a psychic person, and she's protecting these girls who happen to have powers and make a completely original IP, and then just run with it that way.

You didn't because you own it. You literally did this because you wanted to connect it. So don't play me that card. Well, it was the oops. The oops was, let's connect it. We got Tom or we got Andrew. Great. Oh, no, we shouldn't.

The same conversation we had 10 minutes ago of them going, oh, no, no, we need Tom Holland. And that's another way to introduce the characters back in is Andrew shows up in one, Tom shows up in another. And then they build excitement. And then it feels like those movies that get their solo are payoffs, then they can be more eventized. But if they don't show up between anything and then every three years it's like an event, then nothing's an event. And the other problem is they are now playing. So DC, when they were kind of doing this back in the day, they were lucky enough that they were playing in a sandbox

that everybody wanted to see comic book movies. Sony's playing in a sandbox right now, unless you hit something that's good, nobody wants to see your stuff. And so when you're doing this and you're making these kind of moves, this is, they need somebody over there that's going, no, no, no, no. Get Toby, get him a movie, get Andrew.

Let's take the hit on this Madam Webb. Let's take the hit on Craven. Let's start building out these spider versus things because we get paid. on Secret Wars anyway, guys. There's a big overlapping story that could be told and I know a guy.

Let me play. They need a figgy. They need someone to oversee it all. And it's to comic fans, a lot of the choices are obvious. Like there's a map that they're accidentally filling in the right amount of things like.

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Jeff Snyder didn't really break a story, but he was kind of hinted. And I just know Jeff's been sniffing around. I can tell. He won't tell me. He won't confirm it. But he's saying he had a high percentage that Denzel Washington is going to start looking at one of these big franchises. He hasn't done, and Jeff Point was, look, he never was a sequel guy, but now he's done three or four equalizers.

He's doing Gladiator 2. So you should be looking for him to go to one of these big movies. Now, is it going to be Marvel? Is it going to be DC? Is it going to be Star Wars? Now, I think that had we not asked, like, let me ask you guys this. Let's start with you, Winston. If I was going to ask you, without giving you what Jeff Snyder said, where rank him from one to three, what do you think the most likely is where Denzel goes?

We'll get into what and who, but just rank them for me, where you think. Then I'll get to tell you guys, Snyders. I would probably say Marvel 1, DC 2, Star Wars 3. I want to see the graphic one more time because this looks just like Sam Richardson to me. And I feel like I want to see Sam Richardson, right? It does look like Sam Richardson. That does not look like that's like. That looks like Sam Richardson.

I'm thinking of him in comedy. I'm thinking to it last. So, no, I'm going to go with Sam Richardson, Denzel, Washington in, I would say Marvel has bigger IP characters that more of the world knows. And if you're going to cast Denzel, I think you give him like, hey, this character has got 60 years of lore. I would disagree. DC's got plenty of names. Wait, so say it. My argument is that Marvel has more characters the mainstream public knows.

Okay. I disagree. DC probably has like 20 And I'd say Marvel has like 40 Let's not just get the Let's just get the rank Left Okay so but for that reason

I'm going to say Marvel first I'm going to say DC second Because of the James Gunn overhaul And then Star Wars 3rd So I think all three of us Would have said the same exact thing What you just said Snyder had

DC at a low percentage I think it was super low Like 10% or something really low He had Star Wars at a high percentage I think it was 45. Hasn't Snyder been coming out saying that, like, James Guns is a mess? Like, didn't you have a whole thing about the new gun universe being, like, chaotic or something? I don't think so.

I'm not sure what it was, but he's been on point more than he's been wrong. Sure, sure. So, I mean. But I wonder if you know something we don't. That's what I mean. I don't know. But he, oh, you're saying is for why he gets a low percentage. Yeah, maybe DC was low because he has in sight.

Or maybe, look, and this is all, nothing he told me at all. I just know that, you know, if Jeff was that, it was given these percentages and was saying these things about Dendell, he's not just going to randomly. pick an actor and say, so this is probably some smoke, when there's smoke, there's fire. Little did he know, it was actually Sam Richardson. They were talking. Right, exactly. But you've got 45%, I think he said, for Star Wars.

That's a big number. And then 55 for Marvel, which was his percentage. That's too much math. That's 110%. 55. He's 55.45 and 10? Oh, whatever he said. Yeah, so.

I'm just laughing because of, he said 35. He's 110% in one of these. That's what I was saying. That's what I was saying. He has a cameo? in one of them. Bro, it's Denzel. He always gives $100.

110%. No, 55. It was 55, 35, 35, 35, and 10. But 35, still, big number for Star Wars. So I, out of all the movies, out of all the franchises, where do I see him fit in the most?

I see him fitting in the most, as much as I want to say Star Wars. I see him fitting in the most of Marvel, for sure. We had this conversation off here. Definitely would have it on air. I know that Winston had suggested this. So the people have suggested, well, Magneto would be interesting. Would Denzel bring an absolutely amazing performance to anything he does?

Yes. I'll tell you why I wouldn't recommend him doing Magneto. Because what I don't want to say, this is like one of the greatest actors of all time. I don't want to see the stupid discourse that will come of him playing it because he's black. And it'll be like, okay, well, no, Magneto's supposed to be white. Doesn't matter if it's Zenzel. It's like it takes away from the fact that you got Denzel. Let him take a character.

Denzel, you're like, oh, you know what we want to do? We want to make a movie about an ice cream man that the ice cream man then starts to use superpowers and can throw, you know, strawberry ice cream at people and call him Ice Cream Man. That movie sucks, but we got Denzel. Greenlight. It's like, I don't care who it is. Give me someone I don't know because you don't need it anymore. You don't need the big name because you got Denzel.

Some actors are bigger than the IP. even today. And that's what's happened in the last 10 years. IPs become bigger than movie stars. Denzel's still the movie star. Like there's not a lot left. Tom Cruise would be bigger than Hal Jordan. Well, there's still movie stars.

Movie stars doesn't sell the movie. That's what as far as what the weight of the ticket cost is. I'm saying that if Tom Cruise played Hell Jordan, then it would be Tom Cruise as Green Lantern more than Green Lantern starring Tom Cruz. Denzel is the same. You can have him play anyone and it's going to be a Denzel movie. And that's why I think you shouldn't necessarily use a character that people will have

backlash over, even though he would be one of the best. Like, I'd love to see that. Great. But I don't know also if he'd want to tie himself to seven movies over 20 years. Because I think Harrison Ford doing Red Hulk is so, and this to me feels like a similar thing. I feel like Harrison doing this is like, hey, I want my kids college and I want my grandkids to be set. Scan me, make me Red Hulk.

If I die in 20 years, my legacy lives on. This to me, like Denzel going, hey, my kids really love these movies. I want to join a franchise now because that's what's popular with my kids. And he's never done it. And he hasn't done it. So I think him playing a character wouldn't be as big as a seven-year Magneto thing. I think it'll be a big character, but I don't think it'll be someone like that. You know what, though?

I- I-I-love-that. I originally said Marvel and, like, Magneto, and obviously that discourse, I agree with you and all that. I'm thinking about it, and I actually think he would be better as, like, a Star Wars villain. He'd be-old. To be honest. Give him, give him, like, an emperor type of, like, character. He would crush that. In the All-Republic.

Oh, my God. a mangold movie. Yes. All that weight. Like that gravitas. If you give, you literally let, you're talking about Alonzo, detective Alonzo, you put him in the old republic and you let it. You go be playing basketball and Gorson and Pelican Bay.

Just like I, he would absolutely destroy that. Look, like I said, I would, I would rather it be Star Wars. I would love, because I want them, I want Star Wars to get out of the era that they've been in. Look what Rage is. What they just brought over with Ray Winston was so powerful because of the weight of the actor that made that that universe feel so much bigger. I'd love to see Denzel bring all of the Denzel to universe and make it feel like not just the Skywalker story. Well, that's the whole, that's my point is that even Ray, who was brilliant in that is still playing in that same playground that we've been playing in since 1977. And arguably the Mandalorian is now because of what they did with Boba Fitt.

But it's all in that same time period. Yeah. It's all in that same time period, even from the prequels onto it. The only one that's not playing in that sandbox is the accolade, which is like, I don't know, it's always, I always forget it's like 100 years before episode one or something like that. Maybe two, but I think it's 100.

So, but if you have Denzel in that movie during that time period and establishing that, that'd be great. But I think back to Marvel, you can put them in anything. I mean, well, here's the other thing. Is there a world where they replace Jonathan Majors with Denzel? and because no one's going to say anything to where... No, because you just said the idea, is Denzel going to want to,

or maybe Koi said this, is he going to want to do seven films over 10 years? Not that Kang is in that many more movies and whatnot, but it's enough. It's a lot. He'll be busy for a long time. That would literally be... He's not doing really anything other than Marvel movies

if he does that. So I feel like you're right. It has to be a character that's big enough to warrant Denzel's prowess, but to not have him that tied. Because you would even give... It's also 70 years old. That's what I'm saying in 10 years he's going to be 80.

Right. So like think about what they did with Samuel L. I think there were times where it feels like he was everywhere. But there was a point because he was Nick Fury, he was important. Right. But he wasn't, there was never a Nick Fury movie. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Right. I also think we're at a handicap discussing DC because we don't know what the universe is going to feel like yet. So we have two universes that are both in transition, but we at least have a tone. DC, we have no way to know what type of actors they want because we haven't even seen corn sweat, really. Sports analogy for you. Oh, ready. It's like,

but it's like there's a free agent on the market. Sure. You got some teams. You got one team. They were winning championships all the time. They're having a little bit of down, you know, but... All these coaches right now, boy. But they also, but they still have a lot in their salary.

Yeah. They still, and they can make big offers and they can still be because there's always a chance that tomorrow they could win another championship. Then you've got the second tier that's coming after you that was the main championship during the 70s and the 80s and then they came back and everybody was so excited to see

that they're going to do. They won one. They won a couple million dollar or billion dollar championships. But we don't love the roster as much. You get and but if they make them an offer,

it's still, it's a legendary franchise. But then you get this one. They're rebuilding. Yeah. They're rebuilding. They have money. But they're rebuilding and there's no shot

or no chance. You don't know what they're working with. You don't know what their strategies. You don't know how they're going to try to win championships. And I honestly think what we're going to see is each one of these franchises would use it as blank is back. Every TikToker is going to be like, oh, it tells it a blank is back.

And all you're going to see is stupid yellow font with people yelling. And that's what one of these franchises needs is stupid TikTokers yelling with stupid yellow font. Like all of these people need the win for their little like asterisk of like I'm doing a franchise, but the franchises really need actors with weight to remind people why we do all this. He's got a cowboys thing. Cowboys should have hired Bill Belichick. I don't know, man.

I think Belichick got exposed once Tom Brady left. Well, but that's the thing, though. I think because now we can go on a whole sports thing, I think you have all of the pieces that if he really went and whipped the Cowboys in the shape, they clearly showed they had enough talent on the team. Sure. You just,

Mac Jones is not a good quarterback. God doesn't like them. Okay. So we go to the next next story here. Deadpool 3 officially wrapped shooting. Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman share new behind the scenes photos and comments. Josh Wilding over at Comic Book Movie,

work has finally concluded on Deadpool 3 ahead of the movie's release in theaters this July, and it stars Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman, and they have both taken a social media to share their thoughts and photos. Had these strikes not taken place this year, Deadpool 3 would be just a few months away and released this year, alongside Captain America, Brave New World, and Thunderbolts. Instead, it's heading to theaters this year. July and its

24th sole MCU movie, which I actually think is a pretty good thing. I said that, not that. We know that dogpool is done working on the three-cule, but lead stars Reynolds and Jackman have confirmed shooting on the untitled movie wrapped. The suit hides the blood. Also sweat, Reynolds said on

X, but today, with Deadpool wrapping, it's mostly tears. A giant and forever thanks to the cast and the crew of our film who battled win, rain strikes, and Hugh Jackman, all under the stalwart leadership of Shone Levin. He concluded by saying, I got to make a movie with my closest pals, and that doesn't happen very often. Jackman chimed in to say, what a ride.

I've loved every minute of making this movie. Well, not the training and the diet, but the other 93.2%. To the best cast and crew, thank you. You are all aces. Two of my best mates, Ryan and Sean, I literally couldn't have done this without you. And Levy, who directs Deadpool 3, has also confirmed post-production starts tomorrow. No official new look at the movie was shared beyond the behind-the-scenes photos that you see below, though we do anticipate a trailer being released during the Super Bowl.

Are you excited to see DiBlie? So the only thing you see is Ryan Reynolds' bowls. I don't have Manscape today, so I'm not bringing them. I mean, this is great. This means that they're on, back on Target. July will be fine. I'm very confident in this movie. I think this movie is going to be the first,

I think it's the only, potentially only billion-dollar movie. this year. I think it's, is there anything else you think you'd make a billion dollars? Wow. I want Dune 2 to make a billion, but I mean you can't really. No, because three didn't do very well. Yeah, but people are excited about that one of the more so. But not a billion.

Is there a despicable me this year? There is. That's got a shot. Dispigable me, Deadpool. If, if, so here's the thing, I'm excited about Kung Fu fan of, Kung Fu. Kung Fu is good. Kung Fu Panda. That one will make a billion.

Kung Fu Band of Four. However, seeing that trailer, there's nothing in me that's like all of a sudden going from like, oh man, I'm really excited. Holy crap. Like, you don't have kids. Yeah, I was thinking of the... I was obsessed with those films when they came out. Sure. And I get

it. I'm not a child and I understand that, but animation's more for than just in these kids. Totally get it, but I, like, the Mario made a billion, both because kids loved it and adults were like, you know, it's not the great, it's not cinema, but it's, I, like, people love that film. It was fun. I think

Kung Pu, Kung, he's, Killing it. He's killing it. He's killing it. He's Kuhu Panda 4 will do well. Scat play definitely not for kids. There's a lot of,

a lot of... I just, I just genuinely think, though, it looks a little mid right now. Sure, but you have to also realize and the reason I bring up the family stuff is that there are only a handful of movies

so far this summer that... Look like they're going to rewatch. Family's going to rewatch. Well, but even going to see. Yeah. Like, there's only... Like, I, there was nothing in the theater to take my kids to see this past weekend, but I wanted to take him to a movie.

Sure. So I took him to see Wanka because it was still in the theater. I'm lucky that it did because, A, they loved it. Great. B, I wound up liking it a lot better the second time. Because your kids? Yeah. I think so.

I looked over and I saw my 12 years had this big, cul-aid smile on our face. I haven't seen it on her face in a while. And I was like, and the music just became catcher. But my point is that there wasn't anything else really to see. Now, granted, January. Now, when you are looking, now I got to find, the other one that my, The one that my little one really wants to see is if. That's the John Grisanski, Ryan Reynolds,

the imaginary friend movie. Oh, yeah, that looks cool. And the cast is stacked. It's stacked. I feel like adults want to see it for the cast. Kids want to see it because of what the story is. My six-year-old, it's her. If you mean her most anticipated list, it would be one, two, and three on her list.

She's so excited for that movie. I mean, it's not going to make a billion because it's going straight to Amazon. The Roadhouse! I'm so excited for Roadhouse. I'm sick out of a road house. It doesn't look like cinema, but it looks like movie. And it should be the last time Connor McGregor ever act. I, 20 seconds, I was like, okay.

Okay. Somebody, hold on. I don't know if they were sarcastic. I think it may have been rocca, but someone's being like, Connor McGregor's going to be a star. I was like, No one said that.

No, I'll find the tweet. No, what? He's a star. He's already, yeah, he's one of the biggest stars in the history of sports. No, he's having fun. He's having fun. And I'm happy for everybody. Yeah, he's having fun.

And I want to see him fight Jake, And what a great tone. This is the tone you want for that movie. It looks great. I'm so excited. And got, oh, shoot. And, uh, Daniel, uh, Jessica Williams is in this movie. From shrinking.

From shrinking. I'll tell you what, though. She is smoking hot. That's part one. Yep. Part two, extremely talented. Part three. Hilarious.

Her comedy is so good. Part four. Super nice. Like, I met her at the, the Critics Choice Awards. It was the first person I kind of went up to and told her, and she was super nice. big fan of her. So she, I didn't realize she was in this movie.

Dude, it's Doug Lyman, too. People are sleeping on the fact. I can't wait. I'm excited for it. I put this at my number four or five, most anticipated the year. I think it's like number two now. I'm not going to go that far.

Man, make it three after Dune. But it's like Deadpool Dune this. Like Roadhouse looks so much. I got apes up there too, men. Oh, apes this year. This year's, I mean, it's not, I'm not claiming in 1999.

Yeah. Right. Sure. Certainly did last year. And I stand by it. I stand by it. Look at those best picture nominees. Back to Deadpool.

So I am happy to see that they were able to get so quickly back on schedule. I'm happy to hear that it doesn't sound like as long as nothing happens in post, that there's not any more delays and we're getting it on time. And I agree with you that because of the fatigue, just getting this, because like how many other superhero films are coming out this year, period, not just... Go-Ker, three Sony's. Yeah. And then so what, Madam Webb, Craven?

Three Sonys. Three Sony's. Madam Webb, Craven and Venom? Oh, so three Sony's, a Joker, and a Deadpool. So we got five. So technically that sounds like two killers and then just three complete just flops is what that sounds like. I don't think that's going to flop. Well, and Craven being redid and R thing is going to help me.

Maybe that money wise, but I have a feeling. I think Craven being rated Rada R is going to help it. And I think Aaron Taylor Johnson's really talented. And I think the director of it is really interesting. So I don't know. We've only seen one trailer. But like I do think Madam Webb with the way the navigation of the movie coming out in two weeks, looks isn't good because of the quotes are all just like guys.

Stop. Pull a Marvel. Don't talk. It's, it's, yeah, I, all I'm saying is that little amount this year

feels like doing almost like a juice cleanse or something where you're just kind of trying to reset your system. Yeah. And then once you've kind of flush that out, we can come back at this next year. You hope so, but I think the selling thing is going to hurt, you know,

because, you know, but you think people aren't going to be able to differentiate? The regular audience? It literally has a Marvel banner on it. It's in association. The regular audience, the hardcore movie fan, yeah, they don't care because it's like, oh, that's not, it's not MCU. Also, the hardcore comic fan is in their own way excited for Madam Webb.

Some of them, like so, but they know what it is. I'll tell you who's excited for Madam Webb, and at least that I know is my 12-year-old. Really? Because of the Galentine kind of element. Shuttle it looked cool. I mean, I was like, I was curious. It looks the definition of cool. It's for a 12-year-old girl.

The 2000s are super popular right now. Go to Melrose Trading Post. It's all millennial fashion. The music in it is. exactly at the time that kids, Ginzy is getting right into that stuff. But our 12 year old's going to, our 12 year old's going to take the time away from TikTok and talking to their friends and going to this.

Like, the thing is with my daughter, she wants, she, it's a different, like there's two types of it, like excitement, like Mean Girls, I had to take her to the screen. I had to.

Did she like it? She loved it. Oh, interesting, because I've found a lot of people say they hated it. She's a music, she's a big musical fan. I know that too. I'm saying my girlfriend is obsessed with the original Mean

girls, she and the musical, she hated this movie. She loved it. My daughter loved it. But again, 12 year old. 12 year old girl as opposed to, you know, an adult, it's going to be different. I mean, remember how you watch movies as a 12 year old? Remember how you watch movies now? You don't compare it as much and you just, my daughter was dancing and listen.

She knows all the music and everything too. And so it's different. For me, I thought the movie is fine. But my point is that movie, I had to take her to see. Sure. Even though she thought Madam Webb looked cool. when I have a screening of it and I tell her I have a screening of it

and I didn't take her she'd go oh I wanted to see that but she's not going to win is that I need to see it but she did that with Mean Girls she did that and she wants to see Doom 2 because now she like now she Timothy Shandler yeah

I mean the the Mean Girls thing which you're talking about sort of makes sense in the fact that like you have this young star in Renee rap and the way she dealt with the media on top of that even further built up her plus Megan the Stallion

like doing that co-song with all of that was enough to plus the title of me girls to like push that up. But I know that- where we also. I know, and this isn't obviously a full,

right, this isn't a full conversation about mean girls, but just even the fact that like I heard what some of the complaints were is it almost felt neutered a little bit. Part of the whole idea of mean girls is that they're mean, and it felt like they're,

that sometimes it was a little cleansed. I had less of a problem with that as more, and I think that it didn't have the same magic as the original. The songs, I knew them because I hear them on my house all the time. Because of the musical originally.

Yeah, the music, but it's like, it seemed, they didn't the cast to me I thought that this is a longer conversation that we shouldn't have on this one but either way the the 12 year old

looked at them because I was curious I saw it with my six year old I saw it with my six year old and I saw it my 12 year old I looked over six year old during the previews was just pounding popcorn

watching it and when there was one trailer that pops up and she goes to me she was dad what's this and I go I go I go, this is Kong and Godzilla. She goes, that's what I thought. Dude, why is she such a thug?

She's a thug. And she's just like jamming the popcorn in her mouth. And then I said, and then Vivy sees the, the trailer for Madam Webb. And she's, and I was like, what did you think of it? She's like, I want to see that. It was good. And I looked at Amazing. And he goes, to be fair, that's Macy's genuine reaction to most things generally.

Yeah. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. I mean, the other day, when I told her, and it's a quick, quick story. And I said it yesterday too, but when I said to her, I basically told her she couldn't watch TV because we just saw a movie. And I said, Maisie, I told you that. She goes, I have no memory of that. Bro, why is she literally going to become the new Kingpin once the doctor?

Yeah, she's going to oversee Sony before me. That was the other rumor, by the way, is that Kingpin is going to be in. Which makes it just Spider-Verse again, which really worries me. Because I'm like, what a cool thing to have multiversal and Kingpin trying to do that. And I'd love Kingpin in a small Spider-Man story, like a Tom Holland street level. That's perfect for Kingpin. Let them build him a dare devil first. We don't even know what the hell that's going to be.

But I think he's going to be the Kang for the smaller street level side. I think DeNofrio's lobbied for it successfully. Yeah. But yeah, again, to bring it back to Deadpool, I mean, just in the standpoint of I I think, like you said, for most people, this is their most, one of their most anticipated films of the year. So I'm happy to see that Ryan and Hugh really did feel good about it. And they seem really excited about it and whatnot because that's what you want to hear.

Because I feel like a lot of the buildup for this other. stuff if they're not excited they're just like go see it right I did a time and that's it you know I did a poll on Twitter because I was genuinely curious of like like this if you want to see Joker two more retweet this you want to see Deadpool three more so I could see like clear because I'm not going to read everyone like I but I can those two numbers are clear a lot of people in the comments below were saying they don't have any interest in Deadpool three because it's going to be all nostalgia and I thought it was really interesting that we're going to let's let's do it we're just from from

Now, because how much more time do you do you? I got 15 minutes, 15 minutes. Great. So here's what we're going to do. Right now, as we tell, I'm going to put a poll up on the channel. Yeah. And I will see by the time, in 15 minutes, what it's at 15 minutes. Let's do this right now.

Real time poll. Real time poll. Hold on a second. But can I speak well? You're going to be editing. Yeah, go ahead. So my point being, I'm worried that the Marvel fatigue is actually just people thinking referential fatigue is happening.

And therefore nostalgia has gone from being a thing we seek. to a thing that's like, oh, I don't like that because of nostalgia. But nostalgia when it has heart is a great thing. Nostalgia when it has comedic elements is a great thing. But people are using it in a very, like, media illiteracy use of, oh, it's going to have references, and I've seen those go badly.

I assume it's bad because the Marvel brand is so sullied right now that people are attacking that. So interestingly, Deadpool was getting more negative comments than positive, and then Joker, the only negative was, oh, it's a musical, but a lot of people didn't realize it was a musical, and I also still think it's going to be. Noah was a musical? We're so plugged in. I also think it's not going to be as much a musical

as people. I announced Lady Gaga. What movie has Lady Gaga done other than the Prado or the Gucci one where she's not singing? Starring 30 seconds to Mars, Jared. You know what I'm saying? Like literally what movie has she done? Oh yeah.

Oh, no. I wear Gucci. But that's my point is that's crazy though. Those both have these negative swipes against them sight unseen that I'm really curious how that plays out. All right, so I put the poll up there, and I'm going to, in 15 minutes from now, as we end the show, I'm going to bring up the poll of what it stands today. It'll be tomorrow, it'll be significantly different.

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Earlier this month, we learned that Millie Alcock, Amelia Jones, and Meg Donnelly were in the mix to play the Girl of Steel who got cut. It seems the search is now narrowed down to two. THR is saying that the screen test took place yesterday in Atlanta and Supergirl will either be played by Millie Alcock or Donnelly. Priscilla's star, Kaylee Spainey was also said to be in attention at one point. Alcock will best be known for playing the younger Princess Renara Targary on the first season of Game of Thrones prequel House of the Dragon

while Donnelly was in the Disney Channel. Oh, that's right. I knew I knew her. That's why, because my daughter watches... You're the one with kids here. I know her. Oh my God, my daughter's going to be thrilled if she gets it. And already has some experience with Supergirl having voiced the hero in Legion of Superheroes, yada, yada. The new Supergirl will eventually

headline her own movie, but we now have confirmation she's going to be in legacy. That's enough for us for this particular story. I, and now, now even more, and look,

you guys know how much I love House of the Dragon. That was my favorite show. Yeah. That's the same year that Andor came out, and it was still my number one. Really? House of Dragon. Wow.

Even over the bear, too. Oh, was it that? I didn't think you watched the bear until. I didn't watch until afterwards, but I mean, the bear's my favorite show on television.

Yeah, I finished season two last week. Oh, it's so good. My, oh, That Christmas episode, right? Dude, you know what?

Anxiety. I love the Christmas episode. Fish is great forks. Forks, that's right. I like fishes better, but I understand. Fishers to me feels like an A-24 film. Yeah, it does. And honestly, I'm surprised that, oh my God.

Jeremy Allen White? No. Thank you. That she didn't get awards for that. I'm shocked. Because she got the Oscar last year. I don't care. No, no.

But I feel. She should have been nominated. She should have. Meryl Streep gets nominated every two days. I mean, you're not wrong. But either way. So I love House of the Dragon. And I really do like Millie Alcock as an actress.

I think she shined in that show. And you're like, who's that? She's great. And not just because of zombies. But I looked and I said because before I even knew, Meg Donnelly just, she's got that. I think she looks more like the character. You are a great example of why they might cast her, though,

because your daughters just made you go, oh my God, I'm excited. for that and that's the demo they need for this movie. In addition to us, they've got us, but I think it's going to be closer to her now because of your reaction in real time going like, my kids are going to love. I guarantee you James Gunn is watching this and he saw him freak out about it. Literally, you just cast her. You're welcome. James Gunn anytime.

But I'll tell you, but the thing is, though, is as much as I love Millie Alcock, and I haven't seen her audition tapes or the reads. They do. To me, she seems when, like, you're going to tell me she's tough, I'm buying it, right? can she get to that place where she's, because there's that kind of wholesome thing about Supergirl too, right? Can she get to that?

Maybe. I know that McDonald's can. I know that McDonald's. It's a tricky character because there's a wholesomeness underneath the lifetime of being literally trapped in an asteroid, being isolated, being alone. And I think they're really going to play up since Superman is going to be opening a world

where it's already established. And I think they're really going to be establishing a found family story because it's James Gunn. I think we're going to be meeting the Justice League mostly formed already. I think we're going to be meeting the Daily Planet mostly formed already. So we're going to meeting a lot of people, which is why I think it's not going to be a cameo

fest, it's going to be an establishing world. When you watch a movie with like 30 characters, unless it's a comic book IP, you don't go too many characters. That's true. What's interesting too, I think, with the element of Supergirl that you're talking about, is the difference between her and Clark. It's Clark because he was a baby. Babies don't

remember the idea of really being adopted like that, so you might have that. I need to go find out who I am. His parents are always parents. But she was a teenager when this happened. Well, it's nature and nurture. We're going to see Clark get nurtured. We're going to see her deal with the nature of being alone. And that's why casting is so important.

Well, but that's also why, like you said, if Meg is giving you the innocent side and Alcock is giving you the hardened, like I've been, my family's dead. Like, maybe Donald can do it also. Well, right. That's the question is which one can do the other thing. So the other question is, does James gone to have children? Not that I don't know.

I don't think so. I wonder, because if so, because I could see him saying, well, you know what? My kids love zombies. I told him to. He saw the show. It's in Christian's daughter. That little mafia leader said I had to. She loves the show, too, by the way.

She does love the show. So let me ask you a question. Then let's go prediction. We've been predicting the Superman stuff. Out of the two, who gets cast, Winston, go. Out of the two of them? Yep. I'm going to go McDonald's.

I would have said Alcock until your moment just now with zombies because I didn't know the show. I'm gonna go McDonaldly. I'm also gonna go Donnelly. So around the board, yeah. I think the other thing, too, and you didn't read that last little part out loud. She has already been voicing Supergirl for animated features,

and I think that, knowing that she already plays well, knows the character, is already in with D.C. like that. I think that gives her a slight edge unless Amelia Alcox's audition is just so phenomenal. And I bet you it was,

but she's got something else over Millie Alcock. The two of them, more people have seen House of the Dragon. than they've seen zombies, right? Sure. And so that to me is a benefit because in the same way that,

and I think that James Gunn is so good at casting, is because David Cornswet, the reason why over anybody else that was really famous, that was up for the role, he cast Superman because Superman needs to be, who's that? Yeah. Who is this presence?

Who is that? And that's what, no one knew David Corrin's. I didn't know Sasha Kaye in Still Supergirl. And now I'm going to watch anything. She does. So an unknown of, you know, besides like my daughter and I wouldn't know who she was if I didn't have two daughters, right? So the fact, and I didn't even even looking until I read it.

Yeah. I didn't know. But I think having an unknown because Supergirl, Superman, they're going to, you're going to see the movie because they're in it. You're going to hope that the actors, that the cast are good enough to be in it, but you're going to see the characters. So it doesn't, you don't need. And not that Millie Alcock is like, super.

super famous. But it's like, oh, that's, you don't, what you, what you were saying before with the Denzel thing. It's the opposite of the opposite. Where you're looking, you're going, oh, that's, I'm watching Supergirl and that's the, that's the girl from House of the Dragon. You don't want that in there. You want, you just like, that's Supergirl the whole entire time. You want a clean slate because of her powerful performance in that show, we have a lot of associations, which we don't have for zombies. I mean, I love Brett Goldstein, but I go, oh, Roy Kent, every time he appears in anything. Oh, Roy Kent, he's here. He's there. He's every, he's every, he's a lot of casting thing that happens sometimes. Now,

I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens. But I ask you guys, because I'm sure that most people are going to say Millie Alcock because they know her. And I don't believe in the, I recognize you so you should be cast. I think that's a lot of people to do, especially casual fans and I get it. But if you know, both of them from the look, who would you choose? Go ahead and comment.

Tell us exactly what you think. All right. So, Corey's got to get out of here. So I think we'll call the show. But let's see thus far. Let's see thus far. I was shocked at the Twitter poll. See how many votes we have so far.

Only 576 at the moment. There's going to be more. 83% to the pool 3. That's what I expected from Twitter. It's usually an indicator of it's not going to come. It's not going to come back. This poll will probably end up anywhere between the 4,000 or 5,000 views. I'm going to say it's going to land 7030.

You got a better shot at that. But let me tell you why I was shot. by my Twitter poll because my Twitter poll is literally retweet for Deadpool, which is less common to do, like for Joker. So I was like, I'm curious how this goes, 431 to Joker to 420 Deadpool. It's a margin of 11 votes. Yeah, but that's also tricky though, too. That's crazy.

And people sometimes are lazy and don't want to retweet something. No, that's what I'm saying. Deadpool is the retweet one. I know, I know, but I'm saying also, same thing, but maybe they would have got, maybe it would have gone the other way. Yeah. So there is a poll option coin. Yeah, but I wanted to see if this would go different.

He's just trying to get more engagement. That's what that was. That's fine. Just call it like it is. What do you use social media for? Enjoyment? Engagement. It is not a place you go for fun times.

That's why my brain is unraveling. Welcome to the internet. That's what a joke or two is about social media. Folly and you do on your brain. It's a Harley Quinnian. I'm going to invent new social media. All right, listen, we've got to get out of here. Thanks for joining us here today.

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for being here today start with Winston Winston where can I find it really quick can you open up Instagram so you know where to find me at the Swaggy Blurred on Instagram to talk all that good stuff. Brett from Sam News. That's going well. Sports time. We covered the AFC and NFC championship games with John Roka.

We're talking about the Super Bowl prediction after those games are over this weekend. So definitely check all that out. But what I really want to do right now is my boy Vince March Banks. He's known as the LeBron James of Dodgeball. He has started doing custom shoes. And he's done everything from sports to films

and superhero stuff as it's capes and cows. Right now, Christian should be putting some images up of some of the You can see the Miles Morales. He did some with Kirby. If you're a sports fan, you see all of the four teams that are up this weekend. These are incredible, incredible shoes. I'm trying to help my brother out.

If you are interested in anything like that, please go and find him at V. March Banks on Instagram. You can shoot him a DM and you can put your order in for whatever you want. The Jurassic Parks look awesome too. The Black Panthers are my favorite. So, yeah, check them all out, man. Coy Chandrault. You can find me on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, all at Koi John Rowe, spelled not like it sounds.

And also I'm going to be at MegaCon next weekend. So if you're in Florida, if you're in Orlando, I am sitting down with the Spider-Man 2 cast from the video game, my buddy Yuri. The entourage first reunion ever. They've never done Comic-Con. So I'm stoked to sit down with the entourage guys. Keith David, who I adore. Sean Gunn, going to be talked to him about all sorts of Marvel goodness.

Tom King, one of my favorite writers of all time. The Princess Bride reunion. I get to join the inconceivable ones themselves. Jeff Loeb, Arthur Adams, and Simon Bianchi from comics. My name is Earl Cast reunion. Jason Lee, Ethan Suple, Jamie Presley. so excited. The Stranger Things cast, Alan Tudick, and then on Sunday, after Stranger Things and Alan Tudic, Tom Hiddleston, talking Loki with Tom Hildston himself. Very excited.

I wasn't recording. Can you do that again? Yeah, totally. Thanks for joining us here today, guys. Appreciate it. Go check out all that stuff. Thanks for being part of it. Patreon, by the way, if you want to join today, patreon.com slash the big thing show. Super helpful. And Mike Kalanowski will do stand-up comedy for five minutes if you can sign on up. So I think we're going to try to do another flapper show. I'm going to like to try to do that before April. That's my goal. Fingers crossed.

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