The Kristian Harloff Show - Behind The Scenes Trouble On Avengers: Doomsday? | Deadpool, Star Wars, Bourne & Box Office News

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

Is there trouble on the set of Avengers: Doomsday? On today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, Kristian Harloff and John Rocha break down the latest Marvel production chatter, why Deadpool is reportedly in Avengers: Doomsday, the weekend box office (Weapons vs. Nobody 2), a massive Bourne rights win for Universal, how Andor is shaping the next Star Wars trilogy, and we remember screen legend Terence Stamp (Superman, Smallville, Star Wars). SPONSORS: MASTERCLASS: Right now, our listeners get an additional 15% off any annual membership at http://www.MASTERCLASS.com/BIGTHING TRADE COFFEE: Trade is offering 50% off a 1 month trial at http://www.drinktrade.com/kristian NUTRAFOL: Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to http://www.Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code KRISTIAN

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Come on. This is, there's stuff going on and there's friction on the set. Deadpool is back on Dune State. What the hell's going on? Who knows? John Roka and Jeff Snyder talked about it on the hot mic, so I got Roka here.

I want to find out what's going on. Box office weapons still in everyone movie. Nobody too didn't do as well as they hoped. and universal wins the born bidding. That and of course we say a sad goodbye to the great Terrence stamp. That and more on the show here today with myself and John Roker. Let's get into it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the show.

It is Monday. Welcome back and hope you had a great weekend. joining me on the show on monday as always is john roko roka what's going on everybody how you doing neil before the outlaw that's that's what it goes me i'm already hear that i always it's like i feel like everybody's just uh we're losing so many people from our childhood you know just getting older this what happens you get older when we start losing all the heroes i know i don't like it i don't like no i know i guess i mean we can talk about terence stamp full quick i mean the fact that like Obviously, the first thing that comes to my mind is, and a lot of devil's mind is Zod.

Yeah, of course. And he just brought such a prowess to that role in general. And just he was, it made it, it made it classy. He was menacing. Two Wong Fu. Yeah. There's another one. And then, you know, Star Wars, I think he was underutilized in Star Wars.

I think he should use them a lot more in Star Wars, what they did. But what he did was great. And I love Terrence. So you know words about the great Terrence stamp? Yeah, I mean, you look at the stuff like the Limey. You look at some of his comedies like, yes, man. Some people forget that he can do comedy and he was always great to show up and do those kinds of things. The thing that was great about him as an actor is that he was always game.

Sorry, I'm just to just my camera real quick. He was game for doing anything he felt compelled to do and like motivated to do. And you saw the best of him when he got the chance to do that, especially later in life. He really became such a go-to guy for a lot of directors in playing roles. And so I thought he was fantastic, very, very recognizable voice,

commanding voice, and appeared in a number of superhero things, along with, you know, standard stuff from when he was building his career early on in his life. So, yeah,

a fantastic talent, but, you know, 87's good, dude. I mean, I don't know, I know a lot of people want to live forever, man, but, you know,

87, 85, I'm good. I'm good to check out at 75. I'm, you know it's funny 75 years at least younger than you think it sounds it's sound older to us but it's it's younger than you think um but nonetheless i i understand what you're saying you're full life uh and he's i mean don't forget bowfinger right bofinger oh my god hilarious well like i said comedy he was deceptively great at comedy he was the

guy helping charlie sheen and wall street so yeah he's he's he was absolutely a legend so I say Terran Stamp gone too soon, but yes, a legend to say the least. Joe, what's going on with this story? I'm hearing things, and I hear it from you guys. So let me, we'll talk about a couple of things going on here with Deadpool. First of all, we talked about Deadpool last week and back on Tuesday, Ryan Reynolds, posted Instagram with the Avengers logo and anarchy style. A symbol painted over it in the wake of the posting, many on social media,

it to mean that he's suggesting Deadpool will appear in the Avengers Doomsday movie at Marvel. The reveal coming as the project is currently a little past the halfway point in shooting. Now sources for industry trade Hollywood Reporter and their Heat Vision column have confirmed that yes, Deadpool will appear in Avengers Doomsday, but add that don't expect him to be joining the Avengers team, though. Reynolds has previously and rather visibly not been linked with the film, nor has his co-star Hugh Jackman. The report comes as another at the Hot Mike. claims that they have been there have been clashes on the set. The dysfunction

I've heard about on set is only to that of the fast and furious movies. There's a lot of testosterone and a lot of ego on that set. Comic book movie added that we have heard that a clash between two particular actors became so heated that certain scenes involving their respective characters had to be altered or removed from the script entirely.

Avengers's Doomsday is slated to arrive in cinemas on December 18th, 2026. John, clear this up. What do you want me to clear up? Be specific. Let's start, let's start with the um with that last part of what comment from movie said like who are the actors that are fighting oh i'm not going to say that uh you know no i do know yes and they are two pretty big actors and apparently a comment from what i understand a comment was made in jest that was a bit too familiar

because these actors didn't know each other that well and crossed the line and one of the actors got really upset about it confronted the other actor um they said it in just like publicly or set it in just like behind the scenes on the set okay and that caused a big rift and battle and i'm just going to leave it at two very outspoken actors went at each other and uh from what i understand and what i was told they one of the actors was a marvel said we'll shoot your scenes separately or you'll shoot scenes without the other actor in it um or we can or you can um or you know we'll figure it out in some other way um and so that actor felt that the fact that marvel was willing to make these concessions was enough because they also told this actor that it

would cost like millions of dollars to shoot scenes without the other actor and that actor felt that well since marvel was willing to at least make the effort to concede that and and move the schedule around that they felt it was a good faith effort and so both actors were brought together apologies were exchanged and people moved on but they're okay now yes that's from what I understand

well there's been no other incident between those two actors that I have heard and maybe there has been but I have not heard anything so wow yeah okay it was a pretty big blow up apparently yeah so I'll be honest I'm surprised that a story like this didn't happen on the first two Avengers movies you know what I mean

like on Avengers and Ultron, Infinity, with all those egos. I think they were all, like it was a smaller cast, Christian. I think they were all focused on, let's all be successful to try to make this happen. Hamzworth wasn't big enough yet. Chris Evans still wasn't bigger. It was R.D.J. right?

And Scarlett, who were big names. Jeremy Redder was becoming a big name. Ruffalo, two degree in the indie scene. So I think these were all just that, but the fact that you keep expanding, expanding, we have 37 plus these, all these other actors that were rumored recently in Comicobo. dot com that are coming back and now Ryan Reynolds.

So, dude, that's a lot of people to manage. A lot of people, yeah. And all these people have already mostly established themselves as successful people. So now, were you more quieter at the beginning? Now that you're more established, you're more vocal about the things you like and don't like. Oh, I agree with you. There's way more people. I'm just saying I'm still surprised regardless.

You are 100% right on the status of those people back then. But by the time you got to Infinity War, they were still pretty big. And the fact that we didn't get Oh, Fairboy, Infinity. Yeah, like more clashes and stuff. But I also think it has a lot to say with where Marvel is right now because they also know at this point with Marvel, it's like, this is, like, there's no, this is it.

This is, this really is the one that needs to work and everything kind of hinges of it. And depending on who the actor was, that it's getting upset, it's like, is the, is the stress on that person to carry the movie? Is it someone who's coming in and just like, look, I can come in do a couple things. I'm just getting the paycheck. As you said before, the investment, is the investment not there the way it was? So this is not the best news. However, what could be great news is, like you said, if it's settled and the Russo's showing that they

can be like these generals and say, look, guys, let's figure out a way and say, something with Marvel, saying, let's figure out a way, make it work. And if it was still like muting and that was still a thing, then that's a big issue. But if they're, if they can nip it in the But look, I take it as small as to Shmode out stuff. There are tons of things behind the scenes of people, like, going after each other and not getting along with each other. And I'm me having a look, sit down, have the match, be there. And there was some that you could tell on camera that things were not great. And there's other things that you couldn't even tell at all.

There was a big friction thing beforehand. Oh, yeah. And it worked out to be great. So it's just a matter of how it's handled. Yeah. And I think that's what Marvel. realized in that moment because it clearly they wouldn't have done that for a lesser actor lesser character so the fact that this was an actor that they have a lot of respect for and care about and they were

willing to move things around in order to appease that actor i think speaks volumes of the status of that actor and the way they wanted to handle that situation but i think you know this is something about me that i believe in energy and i know it's kind of weird for some people to hear but i believe in energy And when there is negative energy around a project and there's a lot of stumbles and flops or underperforming movies and energy is not that strong, then the energy around the set, it's going to permeate into the actors instinct. Actors live on creative energies and like feeling shit and being empaths. And so when you sense that energy on a set that's negative, I think that bleeds down to the actors and the actors just instinctively act accordingly. as you were saying earlier, Infinity War Endgame, that was when Marvel was on the come up

and there was nothing to enjoy and exciting. It was like being in King Midas world. Right, exactly. We're all in this together. Somehow we're going to be able to push this entire boat across the sea. Now everyone's complaining because they've already taken the boat across the sea multiple times. Now people are like, well, what about mine? When do I get mine? And it's also not

a championship team at the moment. Yeah, yeah, no, not anymore. No, no, glory days are past right now. Yeah. It's like being on the Yankees right now. it really is i can say that do you hear speaking or i guess we can get a different segment that they might rearrange all of baseball yes what's rob manfred's been talking about it metz and the yankees in the same division how would that work oh my god oh my anyway uh so that the deadpool is really a non-story to me it's like of course he's going to be in the movie well i think yeah i think they need him in the movie right because you don't you don't have

that sarcastic smart-ass energy that Tony Stark, because he's going to be playing Dr. Doom. I don't think he's going to be playing Dr. Duess. Right. You need to be like that. Yeah, well, you're still going to be Chris Pratt, I guess, but not until the next one. Yeah, but I think it's, it's, you think Ryan. And I think they need to bring out their big guns,

Christian, because Fantastic Four is like crawling at the end of a marathon across the finish line to 500 million if it even gets there. And so I think they need some positive energy to go in there. And Ryan needs it after the whole Justin Baldwin, like I have madness right oh you know they killed two birds and ones still yeah um it's a bummer to hear

that you know already this and but people it's like look you aren't guys aren't the only ones reporting this too like you said comic book movie hearing this too there's a few other places not just coming from you i mean do you guys obviously have your your side of what you heard about it and then it's this when you hear from so many different a bunch of different places it's like oh okay maybe this is there's some real weight behind this thing too you know yeah I mean, the other part of it, Jeff revealed on Hot Mike was about Robert Downey Jr. having shot three weeks of stuff with a stand-in in his Dr. Doom uniform. That's what Jeff heard. We poured that on the Hot Mike. He stood there for three weeks. And they did three more weeks of reshoots because of those scenes. Then at the end of those, Robert Downey Jr. didn't like any of the scenes. So he reshot them all with him in the costume. Because what apparently he was doing, according to Jeff, was that this stand-in was doing the scenes from the movie with Robert Daniel Jr. reading the line.

lines off camera, not acting on camera, but reading off camera. So the actors were reacting to Robert. I hope that's not true. I really, that's madness. That's hubris. If that's true, that's utter hubris. I really hope it's not true because the amount of money that they're paying him through these movies, he should do anything they ask him to.

I don't care of the status here. Again, that to me is, who knows if that stuff is true or not? I'm not saying Jeff didn't hear that, but who knows if it's true? I just hope that I hope that that's not true because that's like you get paid that kind of money you do anything they ask you to anything and you don't it's okay we're looking at it as normies dude we're normies these people like Robert Tanya Juner's as ass kissed since he was born you know and so well no no no I'll tell you no no no no no wait no no wait no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no he he he we know the journey that he had in general of getting to himself back up right but like I'm telling you did that to himself so yeah Of course he did, but he, but he also had to get himself out of it. And I say this because I was able to spend, when I worked at Silver, it was to spend some time with him, you know, and like he was a very grounded dude. And was really, I mean, that was at the point kiss, kiss bang, bang when he,

nobody's looking at him or anything too. So your point is more than valid that it could be at that point when I knew him, you know, he was still like, hey, I mean, he was talking to everybody. He was treated everybody as equal. I'm not saying he doesn't do that now, but like, he wasn't at the spot. He wasn't getting $7 billion. You know, people, actors will, they'll start out a certain direction. And then as they get bigger and bigger, there's that thing where they're pushing the lines of what they can and can't do.

And let me tell you something. Most actors want to do as little work as possible for as most money as possible. And I think Robert, who's getting up there in age, probably he was like, well, there's a lot of stuff that you guys want me to do. Let the stand and do it and I'll just read the line. So it's possible. I'm not saying it's it did happen, but it is possible. My wife walked in, she helped me because I left my lunch today at home. Did not like the bridge look to when she opened up the,

she just put the both food in the fridge and she, her face right now looks like she's like she's like she was flitting the murder. What? She just asked me if I got robbed. Pretty brutal. It's the Julia Roberts face and Aaron Brockovich. It was. You see a picture I posted?

Yeah, I did. It was not for me. for Sam. It's for Sam. You want that? You want that? You can take that one. You can take that one. I have two other bags. Good, good conversation to have on the air. Get out of here, will you?

Nice. She's twerking for me right now. Yes. Did you, I posted that picture. Yeah, it was great. We had a good time. We get to go out with the kid. It was fun. Anyway, good disruption. Appreciate it.

What do you guys make? of this entire thing put your thoughts in there everybody let me know do you think this is there's some there's some merit to this what do you say put your thoughts in there apple podcast spotify the clips channel that so many people checking out that clips channel now i love it you haven't already subscribe to it's easy christendrille clips it's all you got to do and it's also in the description great okay let's get to this next topic because we always talk about the box office here always and this is the thing that happened basically this weekend the box office is still going down box office weapons is number one yet again what was the drop off about to tell you

weapons holds nobody two was soft as we head into the late summer lazy box office time overall box office is to soundly down despite a glut of titles in the marketplace only one new wide release hit this past week nobody two which will debut in third place to nine point four million softer than expected $25 million budget film landed a weaker B plus cinema score compared to the first a minus but did get a slightly larger start than the 6.8 million kickoff of its predecessor weapons remained on top set to take in 25 million in its second weekend it's a drop of just 43 percent which is excellent especially for its genre by the end of this sunday title is expected to hit a gross of 89 million freak your Friday also in second with its second weekend looking to come in at

14 million, a drop around 51%. Its total by Sunday is looking to be around 54.2. Marvel's Fantastic Four came in fourth with 8.7. Ouch. Drop of 45% in its fourth weekend for a total of 246.9. Running out the rounding out the top five was bad, bad guys too, which landed 6.9 million and now sits at 56.6 after three weekends. Superman became available on PVOD on Friday with a launch heavily advertised and

discussed online as it's relative to. early for Wanner's title only 35 days yet once again PVOD has shown to have not impacted the box office with the title heading for a 5.1 million haul this weekend. Smallest weekend to drop so far at 36%. I'm also going to want to just want to look at the actual box office Mojo numbers here and as you can see we've got weapons at 25. Let's see what's made so far. We're looking at 148 so far. That is a big hit for them obviously. Freaky or Friday another one 86 that's pretty decent for them nobody two we just looked at those for the opening weekend 14 that movies it's gonna it'll struggle to make its budget but we'll we'll see uh fantastic

four this is the number that i want to look at and it's still got a shot of five john it's still got a shot of five you look at um and then you've got the bad guys two with 117 so far that's better than I thought. So I don't know, John, you look at these numbers there. What stands out, man? Weapons, the enduring power of weapons. I mean, 140-something million. I mean, only a 38 million dollar budget already talks about a prequel film being possibly in the works focusing on Gladys. So, yeah, I think this is a great thing. And if you're a horror fan, you've got to be excited about this. And if you're a Zach Greger person, you got to really be excited about what's to come for Resident Evil and that Joker film that he's been pitching and any other projects down the

road. This is yet another fresh, exciting voice on the scene as a director and clearly resonating with audiences with a fantastic film. So to me, that's the thing that really stands out from all of this. And also the Fantastic Four. That is the, listen, man, it is, you can't deny that that is an underperforming movie. Daring, I mean, I might even call it honestly a flop. And not maybe not financially, but I think expectations. I think expectations is fair. I think expectations is fair. I think major disappointment as far as expectations go.

But yeah, I mean, it was probably going to lose a little money. Maybe not, maybe break even. But yeah, that's not what they wanted. They wanted massive head. So yeah, I'll tell you what the biggest story is for me. Go ahead. Superman. I think Superman.

No, I'll tell you why I think it's the biggest story. because people were losing their minds last week about it's going to take away from the theater. It's going to take away from TVOD. Yeah, put it on Friday. It's going to, it is like people where this, this is such a bad precedent. Overall, what's going to happen? And now that you're putting this out, you're taking away, it's still in theaters. You're hurting it.

Didn't have a big drop. Didn't have a big drop at all. People that wanted to see it in the theater saw it in the theater and it made a lot of money. They're virtual. And that's what I was, I was making that argument on Friday. I'm going, I don't think it's going to have as big of a drop off as you guys think it is. And it didn't because people that wanted to see it in the theater did. What it did was allow people like, oh, Superman was a big topic of conversation in my household on yesterday.

Oh, I never even said. My little one through the biggest fit. We had the almost punishment fit. It was such big. She was tired and everything too, but she had a fit. My wife wanted, we were like, you know what we're going to do? We're going to do family movies from now and every week. And each person gets to choose.

My wife's like, I want to watch Superman. My daughter's like, my oldest is like, I watch Superman. There's not necessarily the thing I like. The little one. I don't want to watch Superman. It's PG-13. It's PG-13 is the whole thing she's saying in the car. And I'm like, what?

I'm like, I was dying to watch PG-13 movies when I was eight years old. You know, like, the fit that was going on about Superman. I'm like, it's got a dog. I don't care about the dog. I don't want a Superman stinks. It was like, I don't know what was going on with this kid yesterday about Superman. But nonetheless, my point being. Yeah.

It was brought up to watch with the family. And we almost bought the movie to watch it with the family. And that's what families probably did all over the place. People that couldn't get to the theater, watch it. Yeah. Listen, again, and I want to make this really, really care, because it's so frustrating when I hear people say, well, you've got to stop thinking that, you know, movie theaters,

there's before COVID and after COVID. Like, it's different. You got to accept that it's different. No. Here's the thing. if people want to do something, they will effing do it. They will find the money, they will find the time, and they will make the effort. If your film isn't getting over, it's because it didn't resonate with the audience.

It isn't about, oh, you know, we've got to stop thinking that, you know, post-COVID is the same as pre-COVID nonsense. It is about desire and human beings have a desire. And the thing is, Superman has clearly struck a chord with a lot of people. That's why the film is still enduring. Look, it's not a smash hit. As my brother at Josh at Denham Nerds gets a little crap for, it's not a massive hit, but it's a good hit. It's a decent hit, and it's what they needed to move forward.

It's not going to make Man of Steel money, and it's not about all the time it came out and the lead in and all that nonsense. It's just not going to do it because it's not residing with enough people to get them in the theater to hit the 700 million or whatever. So that's the way it is. There's nothing one of properly assessing a movie. But it's going to hit six. It's going to hit six. That's good for them.

It's good. Apparently. Apparently. It hits six. It hits six. And it's like, and it's still, it's, you know, it's not, same thing. That massive billion dollar number, but it's not, it's not a mass of disappointment by any. It ain't four or five as, as fantastic four struggling in the minute. Right. And it's, and now that it's, it is also making money, uh, PVOD and will for a little bit. I bet you, I mean, that's going to be one of the biggest titles out there right now. I'm taking a crush. I'm sure it already is. is crushing. We're doing a reaction to it today. Sam's coming in to do it because she hasn't seen it yet.

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Amazing. Um, so there's a lot of other things. who discussed here on the show, John, as we talked about box office. Are you a big, even born identity guy? I like the born films. The last one, maybe not so much, but overall, even the Jeremy Runner one I liked. Yeah, I like the Jeremy Runner one also. I just, and yeah, the last one to me had potential. And it's, when I rewatch, it, it's better than I remember seeing in the theater. Right. But it's still, it's not, not as good as those first three. Those first three are just excellent. I agree. Excellent. So I understand this, universal,

went after they've had it forever, so they won the high stakes bidding war for Bourne, and they had to go against Netflix and Apple, and they won it, good for them. It also shows loyalty, I think, too, which we can get into.

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At this stage, it's widely believe that neither Damon or Runner will return for the wave of projects. Okay. Okay. So I'm kind of mixed opinions here. Okay. The thing that I think is good for Universal that they're able to. to retain it makes sense they did the property right for the most part as you said you're not going to

you're not going to hit home run every single time um but i don't think any movies are bad you know they they did they did they did they did they did they did they did they do a treadstone television field in a bomb right on USA yeah yeah yeah yeah so that you know that that that was a miss but they but again it wasn't like they were it doesn't it never seemed like they were trying to take advantage of and they always wanted to kind of do right by it so them getting it back they fought for it spent the money on it they don't have a lot of IP so it made sense where i'm mixed at and i understand it but maybe it's just me saying i don't want to see anybody else play born you know but i understand that they kind of have to they're going to go younger with it but i don't know if i wouldn't need to see that

story and i think i think matt damon made born as successful he he was as responsible as the material itself oh yeah um because he was not an action star when that movie came out no and but the thing is that was matt damon at that age you know coming into his prime as an actor so you're not going to bring out creaky old matt damon now and put him into these action things and expect him to go toe to toe to with people physically it's not that they can't do because he's about doing the odyssey i'm sure in certain scenes i just think it does it's not quite what audiences are looking for so i think you do have to go back and find the i mean if you can recast james bond constantly you can recast james

ds i know you could i know i'm just me that that's this definitely me thing i know i don't look you're alone i think a lot of people want to see him come back but i just um yeah i don't know i mean because look i guess case and point here is jeremy renter is pretty great right he was good he but i'm saying in general in general people like jeremy renter right you look at the show that he's doing what's that show that everyone likes which oh uh mayor kingstown yeah right people love that show people love him um when he got born he had probably not gotten to all to the level he's at now but he was close. Yeah.

But the movies didn't, people didn't respond to him the same way because, like everyone said the same thing. Well, it's not mad dame. They got to try to get somebody in this that really is going to get the role and make it work and carry it over. And you got to get a young person that's going to take you into the, because I don't want to see them cast somebody and then,

but that person's not playing him in the TV show or that person that they got is actually not going to be in the TV show. You get somebody that's going to be born and that's their life. That's it. That's who they are. A new actor, whatever, sign them up. But whoever it is, maybe I don't know who the person is, but make me believe that they're born.

Yeah, I agree with you. That's the way we're going now. I mean, you see this happening with Corrin Sweat, right? He's going to be Superman and he'll pop up in Peacemaker, possibly, or in the Superman saga film. So he is Superman for everything. So, yeah, if you get Jason Ward, he's got to be Jason Bourne for everything. No, well, I'm not a TV actor nonsense.

Like, you've got to be on everything. So, yeah, I agree. There's a lot of young actors coming through. Right, that's what I mean. And especially what if Brendan Scler becomes Jason Moore, would you wake up with it then? Yeah, I think he'd be good at Jason Moore. I'm telling you, that guy is like,

he's going to get something big. Now, whether it's Batman or Indiana Jones or born, he's going to get something big. It's just a matter of when he's going to get it. But if it's not Batman, yeah, maybe it's born. It would be interesting. Nonetheless, I don't know why it did that. this thing we're still even though the graphics are cool this thing so sucks um but jason bourne

he's back do you guys like that he's back excited that he's back put your thoughts in there let us know what you think all right so now we got some more stuff here yeah that i don't know it's got a good these layouts are pretty good but um i know they are they're good they're just uh we're still getting used to um okay something else that popped up here that i thought was okay right I read this or I'm glad that Luke included this on the stories today let me just bring this up here and where's the news the news the news that okay so and or is going to have a lasting impact on Star Wars as the new trilogy creator cites the series as an inspiration okay we're talking about

simon kyn kynberg here mark julian writes Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy has confirmed that Kimberg's planned trilogy is being developed as the franchise's new saga intended to guide Star Wars into his next chapter, even though about a month ago, she's at the time. Trolley's anymore. Set firmly in the post rise of the Skywalker timeline, the trilogy is designed as a cornerstone of the era with Kimberg writing and producing all three. Unlike the sequel trilogy was shifted between creative teams, this approach aims to deliver a cohesive, carefully structured story from beginning to end. I like that. Speaking with Neutropolis, Kenberg admitted the opportunity still feel surreal.

It's not even a dream come true. I couldn't have dreamed it. Just to be told there'd be more movies would have been unbelievable. To be allowed in the set of anything of them would be a dream. My enthusiasm only grows with working on and around it. Kenberg also highlighted his admiration for Tony Gilroy's acclaimed series Andor. There's a ton of wildly talented folk that wanted to do great work. I was super inspired and just sort of awestruck by what Tony Gilroy did with Andor.

I thought that was about as good of science fiction storytelling as you can do in any franchise. Kimberg's long-standing connection to Lucasfilm, most notably as a co-creator and executive producer of Rebels, has cemented his reputation as a trusted and influential creative partner for the studio, although some industry chatter hints that the upcoming films might bear the title, episode 10, 11, and 12. Other sources indicate the real intention is to introduce an entirely new saga populated by original characters, steering the franchise into unexplored territory rather than directly extending the Skywalker lineage. For the moment, Kinberg is focused on completing his upcoming Star Trek film. he's producing for Paramount.

Once that project wraps, he'll turn his full attention to building the next era of the Star Wars saga, though the trilogy is still years from entering production, early signs are encouraging. Confidence in the project comes from Kinberg's established success as a storyteller, his past collaborations with Lucasfilm, and a strong working ties to Lucasfilm Paramount, factors that make the ambitious new saga far more likely to reach the big screen. Okay. So I agree very much so with that last,

point there John and that is that um that because of his connections he's he is a safer choice in the fact that with Kinberg involved a lot of his stuff that he's involved with gets to Greenland and he winds up seeing the big screen sure um so results very results may vary 100% yes hence safe choice because a lot of times he does the thing that we need him to do and you know he also I remember interviewing him and I had heard a long time ago. He was when I interviewed him and Faloney went for rebels. I said, so Simon, what's going on with the Boba Fett movie that you want to do based on the tails of the bounty hunter? And he went like this.

What? And I think off air, he was like, how did you know that? I go, I hear things. Because he was working on that. And he's a big tails of the bounty hunter guy. And so he's been involved. in circulating Star Wars project. That was 10, 11 years ago.

So he's been to these, they wanted to do stuff with him, but I think like you said, the ups and the downs of what he's done, because that apocalypse, not apocalypse, the, the,

the, the movie was the shits. I mean, but he was also involved in, in other movies, whether, that were real good, the days of future past,

other things. So, you just never know. But the thing that I am encouraged by, and yet, like, oh, here we go, is, well, everybody now wants to make Andor. Which I guess is a good thing, right?

But the question is, can you do it? Not everybody is Tony Gilroy. I would like to see them in theory. I love the fact. So you're mean you're not going to just do, you know, pew, pew, and that's all we're going to do. And that's all you have to do is in the same thing that they did in, last episode nine of just throwing every Star Wars thing out you and go,

oh, look. What do we need to do? Let's do another death star and like actual put like character studies in there and you're going to actually do that. Um, okay. I would love to see it. I just, it's, it's one of these fool me, pull me once type things, you know? Yeah. Well, you look at his resume with Kimberg. It's a fascinating resume, right?

Because he's not that, uh, experienced as a director, but he's very experienced as a producer. Right. He's not directing this though. Right. I know. So as a, but like, you know, you got to have the director's eye when you're producing.

Right. Who's going to do this, right? Yep. So I think. this guy can do and or stuff. If you look at Legion as an example of what he can do, you look at some of these other films. He can go a little dark. Invasion is kind of a dark series on Apple TV. So like there are things that he can dive into and explore the darkness of. I don't think anyone is Tony Gilroy or very few people are Tony Gilroy, shall I say. But I think

Kinberg has a chance. The problem is when you look at some of the other stuff that's kind of falling apart not been that great like the 355 or the new mutants of the he peeped you can be like uh or the gifted which was kind of a mixed bag in terms of quality you you have questions so right now i don't think it's a home run he's a good hitter he gets on base but is he going to get home is he going to cross home plate i don't know it's up up for grabs right now well that's here this is this is the difference and i i hate when it comes to star was it always feels like i'm um um trying to like throw a pile of shit into phlone's face but like the difference between the two of them is this in my opinion why i would much rather see a kinberg trilogy than like a floney trilogy because kindberg's

going to produce this thing and what we think and already i love the fact that it's we're start we know that we're starting from a point and we're going to end at a point we have a we have a synopsis of what we're going to do right and like we have a beginning in which they have not done yet okay well i i'm on board already with that okay great The other thing is he's not going to be writing all of them. He's going to have writers come aboard. He's going to be staffing it. He's going to find the director who's going to say,

this is where we want to go with this thing. We want to start from here. We want to that. We're bringing in this director to execute the first one. We're going to bring this director to execute the second one and the third one. I don't mind having different directors if there's one plan. And he's the one overseeing it as opposed to, well, no, no, no. I'm writing the whole season of Asoka seasons.

Right. Why? You showed into Osoka Season 1. You can't write. so don't do that. But Kinberg is going to be mixing and matching. If you mix and match the right team, you could be the guy that won the Cubs

to championship after how many years. You know what I mean? You Epstein. Yes. I think it's very, I think it's a positive. Yes. That he's on board because he's not going to be a guy that's going to go like, oh, Dave Filoni,

please tell me what to do. Like, he's going to be like, look, I have a shit ton of experience, man. And just trust me what I'm doing. I've got a vision. I've got a plan. Now, Dave will come in, have some suggestions, have some notes. But it's not going to be a situation where Kimberg is dependent on Faloni, approving what he's doing, right? It's going to be like Gilroy. It's going to be very much like

his own voice here being a part of it. And if Faloni is smart, and he is a smart man, he is hands off unless it's something that's going to mess with the candidate. And again, and I will say, I think Kenberg is a safe choice. So I think Kenberg should be the guy that they're doing this. Not really, but if you have him, like, so somebody in the comment, are he glazing Kenberg? No, we're saying that if there is someone right now, if you're going to,

between the two of them, right now, I would much rather see what he's going to do because he's not in the power to say, he can go out and get the kind of director, like a, like a Gilroy. He can go out and get a Gilroy and put him on there because he's producing all of it. It could wind up being a

colossal error and be horrible to have him in there. It's just that with Faloni, it's like, my way. And it's like, no, Kimberg will at least be in the position to, whether or not he does this or not, who knows, he'll be in the position to say, all right, let's get that person to execute that, that, that. It could be an absolute disaster. Right. But he's set up better than in the current headspace that Falonies in. That's the difference. No, almost no successful person in Hollywood doesn't have failures, especially if they've been working a long time. So crying about glazing or whatever is just utter.

nonsense because the guy has a track record of success with a lot of projects. Yes, he's had some failures. Pixar's had failures. Just about every director may be the side of Tarantino has had failures or not great movies. And so it happens. But what you look at are how great were the successes. And I would argue that there's some really strong successes on his resume and varied

successes on his resume. It's like one of those things like what I did about. Yeah. That's why I said it could be great and it could be disaster. It's not like, you know, you bowl is coming in to do it. I mean, like, uh-oh. Don't get us in trouble. I'm not going to box them. I'm just saying he doesn't have the best track record.

You're looking at track record. But when you have, but when you have camera, you're like, okay, it could be, it could be, look, you could get days of future past. You could get, I mean, didn't he produce Deadpool and Deadpool groups? X-Men first class, days of future passed. Right. Right. The Martian, Deadpool, Logan, Star Wars, Rebels.

for 71 freaking episodes. Right. But you can list off a bunch of movies that will, you go, oof, that stinks too. But you're hoping that you're going to get what you just read. You know, that's what you hope. But anyway, we'll see. What do you guys make of Kenberg saying these comments about

that he wants to make this a little bit more so in the vein of the Gilroy and or show as opposed to the current kind of fluff that we we've been getting put your thoughts in there let us know all right uh last story that we're going to do before we get to and i said john so right now yeah last week chris carr takes her first victory at 177 big uh big victory for chris car last week it's Chris Chris it's huge so right now john's at 17 oh boy oh boy come on you we got to get with with over almost a thousand people watch we got to get got to get john to the magic land so he can uh so he can win this week so 17 thus far but we're going to do one more story and then we're going to get into the questions and i figure

this is appropriate because we always talk about um wrestling on this one and i don't know if you saw this or not but street fighter first glimpse at cody roads at uh guile in the new streetfighter movie so here is uh that story from comic book movie dot com the new street fighter movie is currently shooting and we have a first glimpse glimps is the key word here i saw this picture at undisputed W. Champion Cody Rhodes as Gile, and he's rocking the iconic video game character's classic hairstyle.

Cody Rhodes will play Gile in the upcoming Street Fighter reboot, and we now have our first glimpse at him. I think Andrew Schultz took this picture. The American Nightmare has recently written off television for a few weeks after being attacked by Drew McIntyre on Smackdown. That's allowed Rhodes to shoot his role in the movie, and this

behind the scene photo confirms it. It's not a particularly realistic hairstyle, but props to the movie for embracing what we've seen in this video game franchise for over nearly four decades. As for Rose, he may be best known for his in ring work, but he was also had a few acting experience in Arrow, Warehouse 13, and the naked gun. Gile made his debut in 1991 Street Fighter 2. Here's the picture. So where is it? Where is it? Oh, there it is. Right there. See that big flat top happening there of Gile, more accurate. So, all right. John, you see this picture. I think that

you get a picture and you get to see this haircut you're like, you know exactly what this movie's going to be. Yeah, this is, God help this movie. I have no expectations that this movie is going to be good. But if it is, I'll be very pleasantly surprised and excited for it. But they're clearly trying to honor

the fans, but not going. Like, if that's, if Shadow had been even bigger with the hair, then I'd be like, forget it. This is stupid. Don't even watch. But it's just a little bit. So you get just enough. You get the idea.

But they are going to do it. Now, what are we going to do about Chun Lee? I want to know are they going to be adding some extra extra goodunk-good-dunk on Chun Lee? Winston-A-Marshal has schooled me on this. So if they're going to go video game accurate, are they going video game accurate across the board?

I'll be real curious to see with that actress. Yeah, I want to say how they're going to do it. I got to see the tone and the vibe in general. I'd love to see. I'd love to see a video game accurate street fighter. um and how they're gonna isn't is momoa playing blanca is that what is that what is that oh yeah i know he's in it who's yeah the budget for this movie is got to be pretty big because it's like who's who's who you know bring it by mdb who's playing who's playing all these roles all right uh momoa is playing

blanca yes there is he's perfect not people is playing bison who is david dazmaltz how k how good on nothing's playing oh bison okay bye Noah Centennial is playing Ken, which I think is the new character they're bringing in. Andrew Koji. No, Ken's been, Ken's an old. Ken's a classic. Yeah. Andrew Koji is playing Ryu.

50 Cent is ballrog. And Roman Reins is playing Akuma. Andrew Schultz is playing Dan Hibicki. Yeah. And Kalina Liang is playing Chun Li. Yeah. And then Orville Peck is playing Vega. That's crazy.

I wonder if, I wonder if 50 Cent is going to do a Tyson impression. that's the character is based on. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, characters based on them. So, wow. Yeah, I don't know. When is this movie? They started shooting, obviously.

So when is supposed to come out? I would assume it's going to come out next summer. I assume show as well. Or not next, maybe not next summer. Maybe like next fall. Yeah. I'm looking at the deadline article. Yeah.

It's a shame we didn't get the Philipu brothers to finish off doing the film. That would have been fantastic. but yeah, it's set to be released in 2026 through Legendaries. Oh, Legendary's doing it. Okay. I'm curious. I'm curious.

So what do you guys think about? What do you think about the first look for Gile? And what do you think about the look for Street Fighter? Do you think it's going to be a movie that's going to actually do well? Is it going to be one of those kind of surprise hits? Are people going to be really pumped to see it? Are you going to be pumped to see it? Put your thoughts in there.

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that'll drop it later on today. And yeah, I'll be catching nobody later today as well. But we've got geek buddy stuff coming up. We got hot mic stuff coming up. We've got spilled of tequila tomorrow night, Jedi Way this week with Kevin Smets making back here. And of course, more episodes of The Truth with a new show that I've been doing as well here on my channel.

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Can we get you to over 100 today? That is the goal we shall see. Let's do. First one here. I'm all for the hate questions, too. Send in the hate questions. Oh, you should, yeah. That's true.

Hate questions. Why not? Why not? We have a member here. Ghost Action Customs becoming a new member. Good time to be a member. And Tudor 101, 102. followed by Tudor 07086,

followed up and became a member and it's really a great time. Tudor. The Tudor. Hey, come on. You be the Tudor? You can do it. You see, Arnold parroting your political point? Yes, over the weekend. No, what are you doing?

Both parties are trouble. Did he? Neither party believes in you. That's right. Did he take my notes? Yeah, he was talking about the gerrymandering and he was like, I don't trust either party. Both parties are out of war.

Oh, I need to. Can you send me that? I'll play it on the show right now. It's on Twitter. Oh, my God. Go ahead. Go ahead. Please.

Come on. I can tell you right now, these parties do not care. They tell you that they do. They just want your money. That's what they want. They want you money. They want you to support. They want to vote.

And they want to get in there. You call them beforehand when they're voting, when you're voting. And it's very easy to get in touch with. You say, hey, I need you to, can you pick up a phone call? They said, yeah, I have not voted me in yet. I will take your call and then I get voted in. I'll never hear from you ever again. I will never shut my door. I will lock the door.

I don't need you. I don't care about you. I print all the promises that made you the extra pizza, everything you thought you were going to get. You will not get this because I hear you vote. Don't do it. Yeah, he's got his, I think you have to get the shirt. I just sent you the link. You got to get the shirt. I think you want the shirt.

I've got to get it. A good looking shirt. I might even get the shirt. Let me see. I don't have to play this. Hold on a second. It's that video. It's just a picture. Oh, it's just a. It's just, oh, F the politicians. Terminate Jeremy.

Oh, I see. Look at that. That's a red and blue fist there in the middle there. I know. I wish he could run. I wish he could run too, but he's 70. Oh, you've been running for office. That was good.

Sean McCabe, Broca, Christian. Happy Monday, guys. Great weekend. You too, Sean. Yeah. Easy fochese became a YouTube member. A lot of great members right now. And we've got the unedited Lord of the Rings.

We're going to have unedded Superman up there. I'm putting my predator reactions up there today, guys, alien Earth. I said predator, I'm an alien. Sorry, alien earth, putting that up there. Full week, a lot of great stuff going on this week. Andrew Brown, the secret wars, it was based off to build to a confession from Dr. Doom, that Reed Richards is better, so it will suck if it's about Iron Man. It could be.

Depends on if they're going to steal the bodies and stuff. I don't know. Yeah, well, I mean, Marvel in the past has. shown a really good has done a really good job that they can adapt these storylines and make them work in their MCU right with the infinity saga and all of that they've been able to do it with civil war they've made it work and so I hope that they make it work this time around as well but don't expect just a straight transfer from secret wars the comic into the movie that won't happen uh okay easy for she's

roka and christian absolutely crushing it goes who's christian who's christian Oh, me. It should be your alter ego. He does everything you don't do, Chris, you would. Probably get canceled. Let's leave it at that. Screw face, John.

Hey. What's up, Screw face. Dropping by to say, Drake put my name in the paperwork for the UMG case. He thinks I'm in a secret evil cabal with them. He is just salty air cooked and trying to silence people. So what's new we go?

Did he really? Wow. That's what I don't understand. I don't get it. I got a guy like Screwface who does content. Like, why address Screwface John at this point? Like, in the same way that like James Gunn addressing people.

Wait, I don't understand when you address it. You know, screw face is a mouthy motherfucker though. So. He said, what? He said,

what? No, I think what's great about it, though, a screw face, if you want to look at this in a positive is, dude, you're big enough that they mention you in a lawsuit like this,

bro. That means you've arrived. Don't even and get out of the one bedroom. Go get a house now off this and do a disc track or some shit on Drake. You'll make money, man. But look, it's ridiculous. And I agree with Christian.

Like, all of these people going at it with people who are way above these people. It's just nonsense. It's so foolish. You can't win. And I don't know why they do it. I don't know. Drake's doing worse since the thing, but doing litigious nonsense. Nobody likes litigious.

No. especially not in the game that he's in. No, it makes you look like a bitch. It makes you look like a bitch. Screwface, John. Love the shirt, Roka. There you go. He's at the M.A.

This is inspired by the boys, like a boy and the boys who wears all the rap shirts. He inspired me. I was like, oh, yeah, I should be rep in my old school rap stuff. Oh, totally. Armada, will Matt Serra react to weapons on his channel? I think so. I think so, yeah. I think once it comes out, for sure.

Mike Joyce. It's a shame that Sidney Sweeney is so prominent in the Americana Poster Marketing. Halsey is fantastic on it. It feels like her movie worth watching. I don't know that Americana movie, but it's not a shame because it's like if you, I'll tell you this, Mike. If Halsey, who is also popular,

but with the kind of press and the kind of publicity in general that Sidney Sweeney is getting right now, if you were my producer and I woke up the next day, and Halsey was on there instead of Sydney Sweeney, I would fire you. Sydney Sweeney should be because what did John just say? I said, nobody knows this movie. He said, yeah, nobody.

He said, nobody knows it. How do you get people to notice it? You put Sidney Sweeney on the poster. I don't even find Sydney Sweeney attract. I don't. But I'd be a moron to say that she's not one of the the most popular people out there right now. Why wouldn't you market with her? That would be so silly.

And the reason I say nobody saw is because nobody saw it. It only made $500,000. at 1100 theaters. Now, it is a small film. It's an indie film, so you have to kind of, it wasn't like it opened at 4,000 theaters, like a blockbuster. So you have to kind of look at it

to that perspective, but it didn't do well. And so for all the things about Sydney, Swoonie representing this or representing that, people didn't show up. So, you know, that's the thing at the end of the day. And that's what matters. Yeah. Giggle Lod Stars.

Hope everyone is doing well. What do you guys think of WWE possibly buying TNA? I thought they did already. Yeah. Yeah. They're in, they're in, what do you call it? They're in negotiations. Weren't they always?

How did Joe Hendry show up to the show up? It's all in negotiations. Like they've had a deal together, but they don't. Okay. At this point, just buy them over. They went to start the Wednesday night wars with AEW. Also, what worse? Also, they were talking about counter programming one of AEW's PLA.

Why? Is AEW even putting up numbers that is scary? I don't know scary, but you know, WWE, like, loves competition and they love to crush their competition and then buy their competition like they do with WCW. So I think it's more, but I do think AEW's in ring work

is amazing. Their storyline stuff could use some help. And I think maybe WWE senses that people aren't showing up to their stuff in the same numbers that they were, like there's all right, they've been pictures for last year of like empty stadiums that aren't that full aren't that full, that they're covering up some seats to make it look like it's sold out.

So there are problems on the WW side of things, even though they're spending all this other money while they're cutting other people. And I think AEW smells a little blood in the water. People need some counter-programming, and so they're starting to watch AEW more. I think WW is getting scared of that.

I'm not paying enough attention to it to know, so you know better than I do. Andrew Brown, the next Star Wars trilogy should be inspired by Zeta Gundam as one of its best sequels ever. Which one is that? Fundum. Isn't that a game? I don't know. I don't know. I'm sorry, Andrew. I don't know enough about it. I've been kind of tapped out, to be honest. Carlton Rudder, London Calling, saw nobody to, and it wasn't for me.

Watching for All Mankind on Apple TV, season three just starting, amazing show. Also, Stick is a solid comedy series. I'm proud of myself, John. I decided to do something, and I'm sticking to it. Go ahead. There's a lot of shows that I have missed, right, and things that I wanted to catch up on. So now, what I do at night, My perfect day has sand, salt, water, and friends. But my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis can take me out of the moment. Now I'm all in with clearer skin thanks to Sky Rizzi. Rizzen Kizumat Rizza, a prescription-only 150 milligram injection for adults who are candidates for systemic or phototherapy.

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Visit Skyrizzi.com or call 1866 Skyrizzi to learn more. When the wife and the kids are, for a second, I start watching something. something. I'm like, you know what, I'm going to finish it. It took me forever to finish bear season, the last season, but I did it. Right now, I am six episodes into Tulsa King's season two. Nice! And so hopefully catch up. And did you watch all Tulsa King? Of course. As soon as it drops, I start watching that show.

I love it. I'm so glad that I'm watching it, because especially because since then, since that season dropped, I have interviewed Frank Grillo and have also been on and produced the interview that Matt Sarah did and had to interact with them again. I love Frank Rillo so much. He's a good guy. He's so great and he's just a real person. And so he's so good in this show. Yeah, he's so good in this show.

I'm so glad that he's into him back and forth, toe to toe with Sloan. It's like a dream. In this new season, they're bringing him back. Don't tell me how many more. Don't tell me more. They're bringing in Samuel Jackson in the next season. Oh, really?

Samuel Jackson in the next season. Kevin Pollock. It's going to be a big fun season. Wow. For sure. power hands. Yeah, yeah, I've interviewed Frank on the deep cut when I was doing that. Yeah. Really great guy. My biggest regrets in life because I was, I was not in shape of the time, was Frank saying to me, you coming out to my gym, we'll work out together. I'll work you out. And I didn't go because I'm like,

he's going to kill me. He's going to destroy me. But if I had that opportunity again, I would do it. That's kind of how I feel right now. That's how I feel right now. It's because Sarah's been trying to get me into to basically get free jihitsu lessons from Matt Sarah, one of the greatest American jizu guys you'll ever going to and I've been postponing it. I want to get in shape. And now I've been getting in shape. And he's like, all right, now you're in shape now, right? And I go, wow, my, I said, this is, I can't remember what episode it was. Actually, it might have been the Frank Rillo episode. I think it was Frank Rillo episode. At the end of the Frank Rillow episode with Sarah, he goes,

I tell you this story. No, no, please. I'm listening. He goes, he's like, so what, so what do you do and, uh, I'm actually, I mean, you know what, let me, I'll find the clip. Let's go through and I'll actually play the clip voice. It's, it's, it's hilarious. I'll find it. We'll go through that. So stick is another one that I'm going to wind up watching also. I'm three episodes in The Steak of Loving It. I'll tell you this.

I finished off. We finished off the new season of Slow Horses last night. Yeah. It's season five because they sent us the screeners early. Yeah. Not allowed to speak on it, but damn. Is it great? Yeah.

And we started task, the new WB one that's coming on HBO. Oh, yeah. That's with the Ruffalo, right? Yeah. F man, fuck. You guys are, that's, first season, first episode, rather. Solor? It's, man.

Okay. Okay. All right, let's see. I'm going to see if I can, okay. Oh, and I love the last season of the bear, so I'm glad you finished it off. I did. I really liked it a lot. All right, let me see.

I'm going to get, I'm going to, I think I found this, this clip. So I'll play it. Where is it? Yeah, that's, I just bring this up here. You. Take care, bro. All right, bro. Wrap it.

You're going to wrap it up. Oh, shit, man. I'm going to look to you. I'm a fucking great. All right. Hey. What a great time, man. What a great person.

I, you know, so genuine. Best. Oh, shit. You know, what I'm going to,

now I'm going to go eat with Marab. Yeah, I'm having a great day. I've got some jiu-jitsu this morning. There you go. I was going to say, Christian. Yeah.

The camera's not on me, but you all looking in shape. But I don't almost do not want to give you a compliment because you're not doing it through jujid. But I told you would once I got, I'm not up a little more. He did say that. So the next step, what am I waiting for a few more pounds? What are you doing?

I think I got to, you know, speaking of Stallone. Yes. I interviewed him. I have this clip. I'll send it to you. But I said to, he, I was wearing an Italian, Italian shirt that my brother gave me. He was wearing for the creed junket. Oh.

And I said, um, I said, look, this is a shirt I'm wearing. He goes, the chest is impressive. I go, the chest is an embarrassment. And he started laughing. I got a laugh out of it. But it's, I've never been able to get a chest. So when I start developing a chest, that's when I'll come in. Do you have a trainer?

My friend has been the one of you said looks like you. Wait, wait, hold on. Back it up a second. You're waiting until you get chest muscles and do some jiu-jitsu. What are you talking about? What did I just listen to? I'm glad he called you out on this. Chest muscles.

Pish-ups in the off time. All right, we're getting out of here. I'm trying to recover from what the fuck I just heard. Thank you, my great producer, Chris and All-Off. Everybody, the great Frank Rillo. I watched Superman I loved it he's dying stay humble you're dangerous we have fun all right amazing it was too great it was hilarious we have we have fun there um tell people to go and check out um match channel if you haven't done that already

he's got some great guests on her he's had uh rash evans rob gs p and he's got some great people on it uh eric kirby it's the 40th anniversary of thundercatch christian roper the score Romans is better than a lifesaver in any service property ever tell me I'm wrong and wrong and why I mean I don't ever but I'm not going to argue against undercats because I love it so much I just really want to I hope that they can actually pull it off the live action at wingard wanted to do it yeah can make it happen I would love to do a live action version of thunder cats before we get too old it's true you have 33 so far john not too bad Mikel Zane hey all rewatch man's heat so good still great one of my favorites If they do make a sequel, I hope they don't give it a gladiator to treatment where they make character

posters and add popular music to marketing. I mean, that's true. I hope they don't do that also. Yeah, I don't think Michael Mann would do that. But it's going to be an interesting situation to see if he gets it off the ground because clearly there's issues with the budgeting and the finances and all of that. So I think you got to look at the reality and Michael Mann hasn't had a hit in a while. And so you have to have questions about how much he can make the movie for.

God, I want that movie to happen. I know we love heat, but remember, heat didn't blow the doors off the box office when they came out. It became a hit because of people watching it on home video and stuff. And it grew in legend status. But does that mean it's going to make a lot of money if you do the heat too? I don't know, you know, like Played by 2049 was supposedly. I know. I know.

You make sense and I don't want you to. Andrew Brown. You used to see Kamentani versus the kind of career versus career. I didn't. Did you watch it? No, I did not watch that one. No. Sorry.

I can't wait for the deal, though, to go through. the two uh the deal yeah yeah yeah yeah um Miguel Zan also someone suggested Oscar Isaac as Vincent Hanna and DiCaprio as the killer main villain who would you cast as Tom Seismore and John Boyd oh man um John Void's still around so I would bring him back to repris well you but the younger but the first half of you know that's first half of the book is them younger because Neil McCauley is you know I mean spoiler for heat if you haven't seen the first heat but uh Neil McCulley is is can't be in this

in the older part can't because he's toast um but you know I'd like to see I don't know I I'd like to see DiCaprio as McCulley to be honest with you well I like the idea if DeCaprio is the villain if that's really what because that's been what they were rumored the last few days but with John Void I as I said I just saw task the first episode and tom belfry is the main antagonist in the show and what he's doing in that show is incredible so i would immediately cast him as the john voight character as for tom seismore i mean that's a tough one

a lot of a lot of uh big shoes to fill with his role in the movie yeah i know um he's so good in that movie yeah that's a good character actor a slick uh cody hunt my bet is the clack between Evan Moss and Robert Danny Jr. Hmm. My class, my best, but the thing versus the whole. No,

no, he's saying he's, he, he, he, he, he, he,

I don't think it was Evan Moss. No way. No way. I can confirm it was neither one of those. Okay. Brandon Ninja, Batman enters public domain in 2035. What do you think?

Good luck. He'll find a quick way to squash that. George Sharmer. I love the show. bring some joy to my day. Johnny Boy, will you have Dan in your 50th anniversary for Jaws? No, unfortunately not. We should

have thought of doing that, but we are on a tight schedule. But speaking of Dan, he reached out to me yesterday. He's coming into San Diego. He's coming to the town. We're going to grab, we set up, grab some lunch when he's here. He's so good with that, dude. He's so familiarly. When he's in town, like, when he comes into New York, and he's not,

and he doesn't call it like to do works up. He just calls to like hang out. I love. That's why I asked him. I was like, are you here for a junket or something yeah and he was like no man I'm here because I got invited to this thing and since I'm in San Diego thought we should hang I'm like absolutely come on down I can't wait to see Dan go pal got a late start but support thank you go pal you always support thank you go pal christian can you a johnny boyd that's his thing I can do the the jeb schneider yeah um sorry I'm starving sorry I'm gonna really grab you

Of all people eating on camera. I have to. But the problem is, I know that it's a no-no. Anybody who wants to make fun of me for doing it, I'm not going to combat you. I think you're right. But if I don't, I'll get grouchy. Yeah.

You don't want hangary, Chris. No. Johnny Patrice, thoughts on Cross's new interest in entrance music. He's got a new entry. Wait, where is he? Yeah, that's my thoughts. Where is he? Like, where is he?

Yeah. Callie Kid. Look at this, Callie Kid. Hey. Wow, Callie Kid, love is the answer. Dude, that's the nicest thing in the world. Thank you so much for that. That's a, that is, love is the answer, my friend.

Holy moly, thank you so much for that. That was really nice. Armada, wait, who's Christian? What does that mean? Well, because they think you're Christian. Oh, Christian. Got, I got it. Corn Emperor, the John Rogo Channel.

Christian, like and subscribe to both. Do it. Hashtag the Roker channel. Is it officially branded that now? Yeah. That's the real. Yeah. Andrew Brown, AW is raising the price on wrestlers.

Oh, yeah, negotiations and stuff. Are they going to sign cross? He's a billionaire, man. Yeah, there's a lot of conversations about bringing Carrienne and Scarlet over. So we'll see. I haven't heard from MIA. Johnny Patricea, AEW would be better if they would sell more. I don't know what that means.

I guess selling moves and stuff too. Oh, yeah, maybe. Or selling out or. Johnny Vascovich too many shows too many movies not enough time that is very true i can't tell you man everyone's like you get to do this job it's so great it's like you have no idea you can't do these things on your schedule like you have to be watching them consistently timing wise and if you miss it then you've missed out on the moment to grab and do a review which it's a lot man there's a lot that's out there

Especially if you have got interests. Best comment of the day, John Vasquez. Part. Thank you, John. Thank you. Jet Sangini, do you still have the Schnep, Superman, bobblehead, and poster from Clyde Alive? Can we get a Barnaby and Dagnino scam show?

Hans Zimmer F1 since score. Okay. So first part, no. That state of Clydea Live. Remember, I left before Collider was over. They still had all that stuff in the studio. They kept all that stuff. All opposed to someone, and we just had first rate,

Nate, out to me too because the more thing I was the most bummed about and I still don't know who did it. Yeah. When I was there, because I used to talk about the Braveheart sword all the time, the William Wallace sort of the favorite swords of all time and I always wanted to get it. I was still my ex-girlfriend I wanted me. She got me some samurai sword and I was, you know, I still have that, but I always wanted the Braveheart sword. Some fan bought the Braveheart sword for me and sent it to Clare alive and we had it there. And one of those people, whether I don't know who it was was either I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't,

lock it down. I don't know if it was Rubikaba. I don't know if it was. Uh, McCuga. I don't know who it was, but somebody has my sword. Somebody somewhere. Um, and they took it. But, uh, but either way, but I can't prove it. So I think Fad took it and he comes into the bedroom with the sword to have sex with

his wife. That's what I think. That's what I think. That's hard to be. That way you're walking in there. Just get that for a hard sword. I'm, I'm going to pretend that didn't have. Patty Boy, Carlton Rudder. Northern Ireland. for life.

Okay. What do you say? Stay out of the troubles. Yeah. Better call mall. F-1, Superman, and MIA are all neck and neck just below 600 million. F-1 just had the biggest weekend of the three. Are you shocked that F-1 will end up at the highest worldwide gross of three?

No, because I do believe that the worldwide audience in general is tired of superhero movies. It happens with everything. It happens with westerns. It happens with science fiction. It happens. And they had a really long. run there's still a hardcore audience for it it's just not the worldwide phenomenon that it once was and people want to recapture the magic of old school school films and that's what f1 did yeah f1's at 590 yeah

yeah and coming out on i think tomorrow on uh on digital yeah it's back in i max this week as well i'll probably i'm i think i might catch it today or catch it tomorrow uh but it's only one screening near me so yeah go pal sort of omens gave me site beyond sight hey oh god uh mam rah rohat rahoo w wb doesn't own tina yet i wrestled there for five years and was just backstage at the pa show the next the nxte guys get to work with tna vets to win win i mean that is fun for them yeah it's a partnership they're in a partnership so yeah so i don't you know it's funny i always see the joe hendry clips yeah um don't i'm just i don't really i mean i don't I've never seen the guy wrestle.

I've never seen him. Minus WrestleMania. So he, and I thought he'd put on a good match. But like, how long can that schick go for? You know what I mean? Why don't you eat some more, man?

What's wrong? I'm just telling you. The smile and the thing. I mean, it's a good given. But how long can he go for it before you're just like, we get it? He's going to pop out of a,

you know, a trash cat? We're still doing what chance? 20 years later. They're annoying. Well, yeah, but they still carry over and so. But a chiant is not a whole gimmick.

Okay. But I think the Joe Hendry song is what keeps it going. Sure. But it's, I don't know. I'm bored with it. Rush, Rashad Green. Who had the better villain arc, The Penguin or Agatha? Oh, well, Art.

The Penguin, yeah. Yeah. Because Aga was a villain by the end. Yeah, it was, she had a good story. But the overall art, no, Penguin. Geek Loadstars. I'm two years doing YouTube and thank you guys for movie talking Shamos. Thank you, people. It's still surreal to me that when I look at subscribers, when you first

started this, when did the realization hit? As far as, as far as the people were watching? I mean, for Ellis and I when we started, you know, we were happy when 100 people were watching. Yeah. Because it was, and we also started at a very different time. YouTube was very different, but once you saw people coming in and interacting, that's always fun, people, that anybody's watching your stuff. So I think that if that's what you're saying, I think it's right from the start. we had like a couple people watching yeah i i can't speak to that because i i came in through christian so it's like i i was aware of it through him so i don't i still don't think i'm

anywhere near these guys so i'm just building as i keep building so no realization it's it for me at all in any of this so yeah if i get to 100 000 subscribers before i'm dead then okay you will julius quiet john should the harry potter show use john williams team he knows my answer to this I say no because it's got to be its own thing. And you don't want to evoke stuff from what you did before because you're not continuing what you did before. So I think that would be a mistake. And I 100% disagree. I think that it is the same way.

I always say the same thing. I say for James Bond, if you have a theme good enough that you know instantly when you hear it, it's, it is that movie or that you use that. And it is not easy. Hans Zimmer was able to do it with Man of Steel. Yeah. But still, even as great as that theme was, and it was great when you listen to the John Williams team in my mind. Yeah.

That's just, you hear right away, you go, oh, you play that for, again, a casual person. You play that song. You play the both of them. Nine out of ten people are going to guess the John Williams, oh, that's Superman. Then they are going to guess the Hans Zimmer one. in the same way that Harry Potter instantly, instant, you know it instantly. And I think you need that for the TV show.

But Hunter Vance, hey, Rocha, I love the hot mic. I don't always agree with you and Jeff on everything, but I do wish you guys were better about spoiler warnings. It's fair. Don't put me in that mix. It's Jeff who breaks that stuff all the time. I rarely do the spoiler stuff. But the thing is this, we're not going to live in a world

where you've never seen all the trailers. Our job is not to cater to you because you don't want to watch the trailers. You don't want to watch any coverage. That's on you. So it's not about spoiler warnings because we don't know what you haven't seen. So you've got to be clear on that. But we try to tell you from the beginning if we're going to do a review, that there might be spoilers in our review.

So if we've dropped the ball a couple of times, then my apologies. But Jeff's the one who crosses lines sometimes without thinking. So, yeah. All right. Donnie Patricea, I enjoy AW, but mean selling moves. It's not just AW, but I'm tired of being moves, a big move, just being shrugged off and get out into another. I agree with that.

I've seen stuff with AEW. I don't think I'll ever watch that because, like, I've never, like, I respect ricochet as, as like an athlete. Yeah. But the bouncing around gymnastics thing, it's like, that's not, that's me, that's not wrestling. That's a style of wrestling, I know. I don't like, I've never really liked that.

It doesn't, it seems like a choreographed fight. in the same way that I didn't love the Darth Mall versus Obi-W because I'm like, as great as it looks, it looks like a choreographed sword fight. It doesn't look like pure emotion sword fight. Like, it didn't look at a real fight, the AW, like the bouncing around ricochet stuff. I hate that stuff.

Yeah, good point. Okay. Eric Kirby, Mumrah versus Dr. Doom, Jogger versus Yoda, who wins? Yoda beats them all. Yes, especially, I want to see, I remember that they were always going to have like a younger Yoda, like a 600-year-old Yoda. I want to say what he would have done. Give me a group Yoda, teenager. Right, yeah, exactly.

Hunter Vance, Christian, you've inspired me a lot this year with your health journey and what you're doing with your pilots. But appreciate you guys. Thank you, Hunter. I appreciate that. Yeah, I've been, I told, I said, it was funny because I took that picture because John and I were kind of going back and forth on the text. And I tried taking that picture and I was like, you know what? Maybe I'll post this. And then I asked Roxie.

And I said, no, I think people will find. it inspirational if you do it and I said all right I did and she was right I got a bunch of people who kind of reached out about it I actually was able to talk to some friends I hadn't spoken to in a while because they saw it and and right you're asking questions about it and so that was pretty great and the pilot got a the director reached out last week and we're supposed to get on the phone hopefully this week so we can then set the set the budget and get this thing rolling nice I'm excited for it's going to be really it's going to be it's going to be my next big that's my next big project you know john you know me better than anybody like

when i came like the way in the way that i did schmows or collater live or schmodeown right yeah like it's like that tunnel vision stuff that's where this pilot is right now yeah you're going to get into that yeah yeah um i am to fly cam i like weapons julia garner was the weakest part of the movie oh i thought she's pretty pretty good a lot of dumb decisions by her brolin and alex mbp alien is okay in my opinion kids take me out um oh yeah but i I like, I, I, I, I, I, I'm going to disagree with you. I think the kids element of that whole show is the reason why it works. Let me show you about horror films and dumb decisions.

Let me show you so many dumb decisions. How many dumb ones? Yeah. It's the whole element of it. Brandon, what's up, Brandon? John, what did you think of Liverpool's performance on Friday? I like what I saw, especially from the new guys. Conan still looks like a deer in headlights.

Can I have his head's already been turned. He's going to Real Madrid, man. And that's why Liverpool up the offer and said, hey, sign or go. Like, I don't think it's going. And I think, look, we've got defensive frailties. We've got to figure that out, but we are going to be an exciting team. I don't know if we win the league, but we're going to be a crazy exciting team. Nathan.

Christian, we watch, we've seen, is it, does it come out on virtual this week? Oh, no, I think it comes out in theaters this way. Oh, does it? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I don't think so in the theater. I have to, I have such a schedule this week of recording stuff, and we're so close in getting the virtual reactions. Don and John, I'm probably going to see. I was thinking, have you had to do.

a couple virtual reactions with me too. Oh, yeah. But the thing is, I just, you've seen everything, but I still got to see if there's a lot that you've missed, but we should, I'm sure there's some. What's, what's an old school movie that you know you've never seen? Let me think about it. Think about it, because that would be,

it would be going for us to touch you out. Callie Kid, this is the best YouTube channel. Thank you. I love geek buddies and your channel the hot mic. Thank you, Callie Kid. Appreciate that. Thank you very much. I like the freak buddies. That was pretty good.

Thank you so much for that. What a generous, another one. Kelly did, crushing. Prushing there. Thank you, Kelly. Okay, next one here, and this is Andrew Brown. Have you seen Isha Vershebara from G1, 20203? It's the best sub-fifteen-minute match ever. No, I didn't see it.

Did you see it? No, I've not seen that one. No. I've got on the list. Yeah, I haven't seen that one. Thank you, Andrew, for his suggestion. Mark Long, great new episode of the Jedi Way. Thanks, John.

Thank you. How was it? Came out about four or five days ago. Lord Kelly and I talking about all the new stuff that's been going, on and coming out of Comic-Con and the news that's happening. So yeah, great to be back with Laura. It's been a while. So it's been a few weeks since we did.

I give you such credit, such credit for pairing on. Are, yeah. Have you seen the freak out over male cheerleaders in the NFL? People are just looking for things to be mad about this days. No, I didn't see anything about it. Yeah, it's so dumb. It's so dumb. What's wrong?

Men can be cheerleaders, women can be cheerleaders. Who, why do you care about this? Like, this affects your, life in literally zero ways and all the not yet another boycott of the NFL get out of here you everyone's going to watch the NFL it's too big yeah eclosers have you guys seen everyone thirsting over jimmy le curtis that freakier friday promotional video had everyone in shambles i i think i did see something like that there's a picture she's always had big boobs yeah go see watch trading places you know for god's sakes but how does she ever was like that i ever remember being was in that

movie with John Travolta the hell was that movie called perfect yes that's a five-pointer right there that was a five-point she was very very sexy in that movie um Spencer great a film set you could be a fly on the wall for Avengers dooms day boogie nights right now put me as a fly on the wall although I wouldn't this is a joke that I would say I wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall you know why because flies don't understand English and they don't know what's happening They just looked for shit. So I wouldn't want to be a fly. You don't understand anything.

Make me brundle fly. Seth Brundle fly. But I was I was in some mood the other day. I was driving down the street. And I was in the stupidest mood, like the dumbest jokes mood. And I'm like, at nowhere, I say to myself, I'm by myself, mind you. And I go, I like to embarrass dogs. I was like, I like to roll down the window.

Look at a dog. The dogs in the middle will leave himself. Look at that dog. He's taking a shit. And I go, ha. I like to embarrass the dog. And then I realize. It's a dog probably doesn't care because he doesn't understand English.

No. So stupid. Andrew Brown. Ishi where we did that way? We already did that way. Yes. We're at 54. Hey, 54.

And that's it. That's it. That's all of them. We're done today. Wow, what a short show. You know, a short show. That's all right. It happens at best of us.

850 people watching at this age. At this age, happens to all of us. But before we say, sometimes, sometimes you do like that late comeback. You never know. Yeah, you never know. Andrew Brown. The water versus June 94 is the best match in the 90s.

Well, I don't, look at this. I like that. I like that. So, John, why don't you tell us one more time where they can find your channel? Maybe people throw some stuff in there, keep us on. If not, we'll be back here tomorrow. Yeah, YouTube.com slash John Roka says the John Roka channel now officially in motion. So thank you all so much.

Head on over there, subscribe. As I said, close to 40,000. You get a lot of great content, a lot of fun entertainment. And, yes, some stuff you get upset about, but some stuff you'll also enjoy and laugh about it. as well there with the Hot Mike, Geek Buddies, Jedi Way. Spill the tequila, especially tomorrow night with me and Winston A. Marshall. And, of course, don't forget the Cinephiles, my podcast that I've been hosting now for almost 10 years. With me and my great friend, Steve Morris, we are tackling Jaws.

We just dropped part one over the weekend. So please head on over there and enjoy that wherever you download podcasts. Wow. We have two more here before you go. Brandon Summers. Christian, you must watch Boondocks, but definitely watch it with Winston. You'll love it. Hatcher Freeman episode of Long as World Watch.

He's been really trying to sell me on Boondocks. He's amazing. It's on HBO Max right now. Boondocks is incredible. Not the Boondock Saints, right? No, no, no. The Boondocks is animated? Yeah, animated. Yeah.

Okay. Nathan Drake, Landman Season 2 coming in November. Can't wait. Bitto. Love that series. Love that show. Quar Emperor, hey, it was more than five minutes. What was?

I don't know. I don't remember. I miss it. Kelly Kid. Kitt. Roka. caught it. Autocrite. Freak buddies. That's our late night show.

The freak buddies. I'm sorry, people get upset that. I don't know what boondocks is. I apologize. Yeah. It was a good series that came out, focused on the black culture and exposing exposing first some of the racism that's inherent in society, but also focusing on some of the double standards

that black people have have with their own community. It's a really groundbreaking show. Who's in it? Brilliantly done. Is it Regina King? does the voice of both of the kids? I think it is. I forget because I'm

forgetting things like, yeah, Regina King does the voice of both of the young kids. And then you got John Witherspoon, Cedriced Yarbrough, Gary Anthony Williams, who's fantastic. There's Uncle Ruckus. But yeah, it's a pretty... I like that name. Uncle Ruckus. Yeah, he's the racist

black guy. He's like racist towards black people. As a Black... Uncle Ruckus. I mean, you go to earn that name. So yeah, it's 56 episodes, but it's funny, funny stuff, man. And really incredible animation style. Okay. The Tyler Berry episode alone. Okay.

Now I want to say, what is that next time someone asks? Now I've heard of it. All right, guys, thank you for being. Not six. We're still figuring it out, guys. Thanks for being here. Thanks for being here on the show. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found.

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