The Kristian Harloff Show - BLADE Reboot DOOMED? Major Update Revealed!

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

🔥 Welcome back to The Kristian Harloff Show! 🔥 Today we're diving into the latest bombshell in the MCU: BLADE is now said to be on "indefinite hold"! After years of anticipation, the Daywalker r...eboot starring Mahershala Ali may be in serious jeopardy. Flying Lotus just revealed he was set to score the film before things completely fell apart. What went wrong with Blade? And can Marvel Studios still salvage it after Secret Wars? But that's not all — we've got a packed show: 🦸‍♂️ SUPERMAN update! A judge has ruled on the co-creator's bid to reclaim foreign copyrights. Will James Gunn's Superman reboot stay on track for its big release this summer? 🕷️ SPIDER-MAN: BRAND NEW DAY rumors are heating up! A new casting call may have just dropped a big hint about the villain Peter Parker will face. Plus, new details emerge about Zendaya's reduced role as MJ. 🕶️ Flash Thompson actor Tony Revolori opens up about the chances of becoming Agent Venom ahead of Spider-Man: Brand New Day — is the symbiote future still alive in the MCU? We break it all down — from Marvel's Multiversal priorities possibly derailing Blade, to the latest Spider-Man 4 casting rumors, to Superman's legal hurdles overseas. If you love Blade, Superman, Spider-Man, or just crave the biggest Marvel and DC news, you won't want to miss this episode. ⚡ Drop your thoughts in the comments! Will Blade ever actually happen? Should the Daywalker join the Multiverse? And are you excited for Superman's big DCU debut? STITCH FIX: Make style easy—get started today at https://www.StitchFix.com/KHS  

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Starting point is 00:00:24 Shop Wayfair's Memorial Day clearance now through May 25th. Blade movie is happening. Just kidding. It's not happening. That's why, that's what Marvel kept saying. And I just did it to you. What's not happening?
Starting point is 00:00:43 Looks like it's indefinite hold now is the way it's looking. I don't think we're getting the Blade movie anytime soon. Superman, there's that whole copyright thing that was going down. And we'll discuss that. See if that has changed at all. Thunderbolts is right around the corner. We're going to be checking that out. Reviews have been out so far, first reactions.
Starting point is 00:01:02 There's a Spider-Man casting call. Check that out. Something, some comic books that are dropping. So it's going to be a good conversation on capes and cows today. So I'm glad that you can be here with us, myself, Winston, and Coy. So let's get into it. It's the Christian Oliver Show, Caps and Cows, Baby. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, too,
Starting point is 00:01:40 Cape and Cowell Show Friday. And we always have a nice discussion here about everything in the world. of comic book movies myself christian harlough coy john droe Winston a Marshall the gang is back in town um what's up guys how you doing hanging good good yeah I mean I was gonna say I just I'm doing the the greatest Leslie Marshall impression that's my dad you know he he all 90s rock this thing so it's that I mean dude that looks like that looks like that was like 70 showing up to some set that nobody else is allowed on. Maybe early 80s of your account, but I don't think about it.
Starting point is 00:02:27 All the Black Dads in the 90s from all the shows, man, sister, sister, fresh prints, like all, everybody was rocking this, you know? Good. You know who's not going to be rocking that is Blade. Because you're not going to be. There's nothing that it's going to be doing. We're going to get into this topic in just a second, because we've been discussing this blade thing since it got announced in 2019.
Starting point is 00:02:47 But before we do, let you guys know, you guys won last week without me. And I saw that. It was a good one. It was Roka and Mike had it. It looked like it was locked in. You guys came back and won the week. Well, you got a chance to do it again because right now, Roxy holds the top spot, I believe at 83. Oh, that's very doable.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I feel good about this. Yeah, you can do it. You can do it. You're at eight currently already. We just started. And don't open those stories, Winston, because the light brushes out your wonderful thing. All good. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:03:20 It is Blade, and it ain't happening, at least not anytime soon. It's now said to be on indefinite hold as the Flying Lotus reveals he was set to write music for the reboot. Another disappointing update for Day Walker fans here is Marvel Studios long-awaited Blade seems to be back on indefinite hold with Flying Lotus revealing that he was on board to write the music. From Mark Cassidy, though Blade was removed from Marvel Studios slate late last year, we had heard that the movie was simply delayed and would eventually move forward. Unfortunately, this no longer seems to be the case. Despite recent reports, the MCU reboot was still on track to commence production in the UK at some point later this year, insider Daniel Rickman claims to have confirmed that blade has been put on indefinite hold. Backing up this claim is recording artist DJ Flying Lotus,
Starting point is 00:04:07 aka Stephen Ellison, who has taken two X to reveal that he had signed on to write the music for the project before things fell through. And he does not sound optimistic about that film, back on track. Last we heard, the latest draft by Eric Pearson, who is the sixth writer to have been assigned to the project and from Michael Green, Stacey O.C. Koffa, Michael Starbury, Bo de Mayo, Nick Pazolato had finally satisfied everyone involved, but clearly not the case. Apparently, the reason that Blade was pushed back again is because Marvel is prioritizing the multiversal stories in the buildup to Avengers, Doomsday, and Secret War, so it might not be a case of the studio struggling to get Blade right as simply bad timing for Maharshal Ali's Day Walker to make his MCU debut.
Starting point is 00:04:51 We also heard that the positive response to Wesley Snipes' appearance in Deadpool Mulverine had led to the studio planning to make the reboot a multiverse story that could feature both takes on the Daywalker. This might all be moot now anyway, but hopefully Marvel will come back to the movie after Secret Wars. Delroy Lindo was talking about the role he would have played before parting ways with the film during a recent interview with EW. he said when Marvel came to me, they seemed to be really interested in my input. And in the various conversations I had with the producers, the writer, the director at the time,
Starting point is 00:05:20 it was all leading into being very inclusive. It was very, it was really exciting conceptually, but it was also exciting in terms of the character was going to form. And then, for whatever reason, just went off the rails. There was a Marcus Garvey-esque component to who this man is, was shaping up to be. I'm not saying that would have been an out and out Garveyite, not that, just in terms of how this man's philosophy, his ethos, and what was driving him. He was a character who had very similar to sinners created a community, a black community.
Starting point is 00:05:49 He was a character who was the head of this community. Jan Damage, who stepped into a place with Sam Tarik previously confirmed the movie, or at least a version he was attached to it was going to be rated R. He said, I'm excited to show a kind of ruthlessness or roughness. He allows him to walk the earth in a particular way, and I love him for that. He's got a dignity, integrity, but there is a ferocity there that he usually keeps at surface. I want to unleash that and put it all on the screen. Well, it doesn't seem like he's going to be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:06:15 So, you know, I think we start Winston with you, man. And when you hear this, obviously disappointment hits because everybody wanted to see Mahershali do this. He's not going to do it. We've been saying that for a year now that we, none of us thought Mahershali was going to wind up doing it. Is there a world that Blade happened soon, you know, outside of once they rap Avengers And is there a world that Maharshali shows up or is this pretty much that they're going to recast or they're not going to see played for a long time?
Starting point is 00:06:47 We're looking at a recast, which sucks. I hope that they still find a way to include Mahershala. If they haven't already figured out a Beyonder, I feel like he could actually be really interesting Beyonder, to be honest with you. The Beyonder can be a little eccentric at times, but there are some very serious moments with him. So I think that that would be a good role for him to potentially slip into. But I don't think this is going to be happening for a while. until we start talking Dr. Strange 3, until we start talking other, you know, Midnight Suns type situation.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I think that this is fully on a back burner. We've already talked about it. The main cash cow is going to be the X-Men. So once you kind of deal with what we're in the middle of right now and get through the end of doomsday and secret wars and all that kind of stuff, that's where they're going to look, as they should. but this sucks. This really, really sucks.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And I think the main thing we need to look at is, is Wesley Snipes actually some sort of voodoo master because he said there's only ever going to be one blade and go be no other blade. And he wasn't lying, bro. Boy, what do you make of this story? I echo a lot of what Winston's saying here. I think X-Men and Fantastic Four are going to be a huge focus.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I think they're going to make a lot more streamlined choices going forward. The good news is, is a very streamlined choice. It's a very, this can be a narrative. And the other good news is they're focusing on darker things. Like, things feel like they're turning more adult overall. So I could see A Blade, but I don't see it being first wave out the gate post-secret orders necessarily.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And I don't see it happening anywhere between then. But the good news is, for me, as someone that hates early announcements, they haven't announced a lot of stuff post-secret wars. And I think that's good. I think that's healthy. I think announcing this in 2019, It is six years later. I hope this is one of the last casualties of that phase of announcing phases.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I don't think they should focus on 10 years out publicly. I think they should focus on 10 years out privately and focus on the year or two ahead of them publicly. And until Blade is filming and until Blade is actually going forward, please don't tell me about him again because I'm sad. Well, they also don't have that kind of power that they did back in the day when they could do that stuff, right? and the excitement that was attached to it beforehand where you wanted to hear the slate of five, ten years because they had earned it. You're like, okay, you guys just not that.
Starting point is 00:09:16 That's good, that's good, that's good, that plays into that. Okay, great. What do you have lined up for the next four or five years? And then they tell you, you're like, okay, good. You've delivered on that. Right now they haven't been able to do that. So they're rightfully focusing on, okay, we got to get these Avengers movies, right? Because the first thing that everybody's concerned of is like,
Starting point is 00:09:34 as everyone's been saying, there's no real big buildup. to this yet. What are they going to do? And I think that what's funny about that is because of what I just said, where we're so used to Marvel giving us movie after movie that leads up to leads up, leads up, that we forget that most movies, if they're going to do a trilogy or even two movies,
Starting point is 00:09:53 they set up all the things and all the cast of characters and whatever the drama, the inciting incident and all that in the first movie. So whatever that might be for Doomsday, you've got to get us to a place that we're so excited that we want to see Secret Wars. Now, if they accomplish that. If they make that happen, that's what they need to do to get the money in the bank. After that, the focus is going to be the X-Men. We all know it. The X-Men is going to be the main focus. Within that, if they get back on track and they start making some money again, and you can put,
Starting point is 00:10:20 like, look at what they're doing with some of these movies. Look at the Sean Levy's Star Wars movie, which is going on a lower budget now, right? Go on a lower budget, make a blade movie. It's unfortunate. I'm Hersch-A Lee is not going to be in this movie. There's no world where he's going, well, there's no world he's going to be the blade. I just don't think that that's going to happen. What I do think that could happen and should happen, as Winston said, we'd said this long time ago. They should say, hey, we know we drop the ball on this. We understand who you want. You want to play Magneto. You want to play this person. You want to play this person. Who you want. You got it. We want you in the family. We drop the ball who you want. And I think that that's what
Starting point is 00:10:56 they should do. Go ahead. What I'm curious about is all the groundwork they've laid, what actually sticks around post-secretors. Because a lot of the stuff that set groundwork up, feels like that's the stuff that's been delayed. Like this year we've got those nine properties, including Iron Hearts, including Marvel zombies. That's all like the horror occult side. I felt like they were driving towards
Starting point is 00:11:16 with even Weirult by night. But after Secret Wars, does that pay off? I mean, I feel like Ironheart sets up Doom really well with magic and technology merging and all those things. But all of this groundwork,
Starting point is 00:11:27 I don't know if that's going to feel like it's a precedent after Secret War. So I'm really curious what counts. Yeah, Vincent. You were going to see something? No, I mean, I'm on the same page with Coy of where that kind of fits in. And you quote,
Starting point is 00:11:39 don't even forget, we also have Wonder Man. So, like, he's also trying to figure out where that's going to kind of click in a little bit. I just, I think the smart move for the integrity and, and in the same way that how much disrespect have we had for Star Wars recently because of the constant making promises and them not coming to fruition. Right. And then let alone, you. do that and then stuff you put out doesn't hit so i i think the smarter thing to do you've
Starting point is 00:12:11 made the announcement you got to kind of sit with that that l and just focus on what is currently working i mean you know things i've heard about thunderbolt sounds like it's great you're trying to get started on uh you know obviously doomsday and whatnot and and how even the chairs was good like it seemed like bad press but it was great press so like focus on what's working and this is just going to be a a weird blip this week and then no one's going to be thinking about it sadly um it'll be in the back of my mind i'm going to be very sad about it but i people will move on yeah as soon the chairs prove that marvel has a lot of clout still but they really need like thunderbolts being you know we hear amazing i haven't seen it yet but like that's going to be such a big victory lap moment we need to
Starting point is 00:12:53 like keep that momentum up we've talked all last year about like if cap doesn't work we need the one two punch of thunderbolts going into fantastic four what does it look like to have this momentum and how do you keep that going into Avengers and things if you're going to have these properties that aren't on the next docket. Like I would hold off on announcing much until 2026 for post-segoers. I agree. And I think that that's probably what they do. Blade will eventually show up.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Could be two years from now. It could be 10 years from now. He'll show up as long as Marvel's still making movies. Eventually he'll show up. It just won't be Marshall. What do you guys think? You think them, who knows, you guys are wrong. They're going to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Mahersh Ali is going to be in this movie. They're going to make it happen. Or is it a done deal? You can comment here and let us know. You can comment if you're watching live. You can comment on the replay. You can also comment on the Clips Channel. I hope that everybody has got.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I've noticed we've got a whole bunch of new subscribers on that Clips channel. You just go in your search bar, go to Christian Harlov Clips, and subscribe there. And why would I do that? I watch the show three days a week. Yeah, but on those other two days you don't, you can clip it out. You can watch the clips that you missed, and you can watch it that way. you can't have to catch up. So there you go. Coy and Winston were both mentioning the Thunderbolts.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I don't know. Quay, when are you going to see the Thunderbolts? On Monday. Me too. Winston, same. I will, just because of stuff I got going on, I'm going to have to just figure it out on the Thursday preview because it's going to be a crazy weekend. All right. Well, we're going to do, we will be, I'm going to see it on Monday as well. And then we will basically, I think we'll probably just do our spoiler thoughts. on on friday the following when we see it probably do like a you go ahead quite what you say i was
Starting point is 00:14:38 just going to say i feel like by the time winston has seen it thursday the most of the world will have and then people can just wait till like if you guys don't see a friday watch our show saturday i feel like we'll have that's the time to do our we'll figure we'll figure it out and we'll talk we'll have some stuff and you know we'll do the same thing where if people haven't seen it yet they can always skip that portion of the show whatever but we'll we'll we'll figure that out um they it's getting great reviews people are are digging it so far and and it's not just the influencers it seems like it's people you know every influencer loves everything so the the main through line that i've heard that has me excited is the
Starting point is 00:15:15 idea that they they attacked it like a movie and not like trying to do the mc u whatever so it sounds like the whole the whole of the first two acts is really grounded and focused on real issues and then it gets to the fantastical which i think is that's exactly what we need to do that's what we need to do That's what we need to do. But here is, this is something interesting that, because there's tons of articles in comic movie about Thunderbolts, but like 95% of them are like spoiler-heavy stuff, and I don't want to get into that.
Starting point is 00:15:44 But this is interesting. And I think, Coy, I don't know if you saw this article, Thunderbolt's director reveals that earlier versions of the movie was kind of like a diehard thing. And Coy's a big, leekle-ha. Really? That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:15:57 He's not a die-hard guy. I'm on the other side of the fence. We actually had a debate yesterday. who would win in a death fight Martin Riggs or John McLean and both Mike and I both took Riggs. Yeah, I love to hear it. Yeah, we both love diehard. This is just no world where John McClain compete Riggs. Thunderbolts.
Starting point is 00:16:19 He said in a new interview, Jack Shrier reveals that Marvel Studios originally had a very different idea for the anti-hero. Those specific plot tales for Thunderbolts are still under wraps. The trailers have given a pretty good idea of what to explain. from the basic premise group of misfit anti-heroes joined forces after initially being set against each other and decide their best to put a powerful new threat known as the void. We all know that these six characters first encounter each other in a vault of some sort, and it sounds like we're originally going to spend a lot more time in this location. While speaking to Games Radar, Jake Shrier revealed that an earlier draft of the script
Starting point is 00:16:53 would have played out differently to the movie that's set to hit this week. He said that Eric Pearson came up with it, Brian Chapic. I think one of the original versions, like a die-hard thing, was going to take place in this one vault getting out of it which were very cool so i think the DNA of the film was always a bit more contained uh i don't i'm i'm still i'm hesitant to dive too deep in this because i don't really learn anything about the movie at all um close man here literally right there but i'm excited to this one but this is big in this is how i i still feel the same way that i what i've been saying recently i think out of this year's marvel releases quality-wise this is going to be
Starting point is 00:17:28 the best one i think quality-wise as far as overall movie it will not be the one to make the most money. And I fear that people don't know what the hell it is. I feel like it's going to have either a okay opening, just okay opening, or decent opening, or a disappointing opening. I don't think we're going to get one of those cross your fingers. Wow, this thing crushed like a Minecraft, you know? So, Winston, do you think that this movie could, well, I didn't even ask you, I don't think I've asked you. What do you think this movie is going to open of this weekend or next one when it comes out? see the problem is sinners is still is still here so and i think sinners will still be doing gangbusters honestly um so if i had to guess maybe maybe like 8590 yeah that's that's where i'm landing to
Starting point is 00:18:22 koi what about yourself uh i'm going to go 7580 but i'm going to say a less than uh 60 percent drop weekend too i think the legs are going to be what makes this movie i think it's going to be word of mouth through the week that i think it's only going to drop like 20 million I think this movie's going to do really well long term, but it's all going to, like, the optics are going to be tricky because it's, it's going to be better for clickbait sites to go Marvel fails again. And then people might read that and think the movie's bad. But if the word of mouth is louder than the articles, then we'll get it having legs. I think it's going to be a matter of public perception of what Marvel is versus what a movie is. Like you even see what the sinners press, like them being like, you know, only 60 million when it's an original. IP that is making all sorts of waves. It's it's it behooves garbage to espouse garbage. So I think it's going to be a problem optically. But I think when enough people love it and if the right people shout it, if it's good,
Starting point is 00:19:22 that's what's going to make a difference. And I hear it's amazing. Yeah. I hear it's amazing as well. I don't think though. I don't think centers is going to have anything to do with this old Winston by the time this comes as far as tripping because by the time this comes out. This movie comes out in two weeks and,
Starting point is 00:19:36 opening weekend for sinners was like 60. Last week was 60. This week will probably be for them another, you know, maybe there's another 20. So even if it taps on and it does another. I mean, the only thing, though, and then this is why I'm saying I think sinners will still take a bite out of it.
Starting point is 00:19:53 It's just from the stand. Damn, I didn't even mean to do. Oh, God, I am fully in dad mode. Holy crap. That was a dad joke if I've ever done one. Take a nice. Oh, my God. Blood right out of it.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I have unlocked my superpowers. power, I guess. But I think it's because look at what it's done in the Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday where we're still pulling like seven, eight, and like nine respectively on those days. Like, I think that Sinners has kind of crazy legs, especially because people are not only just from the community standpoint of people really being into it, but there's so much to unravel there that people are trying to go a second, a third time to go see it in 70 if it's in your city that way. I get what you're saying, because by then we will have been on week. three and the summer movie season starts so those people who are either going to see it again
Starting point is 00:20:41 or whatever it might be i just don't i think it'll still do good money for what it's doing on in this third week but i don't think it's going to be enough that's going to damage um the opening weekend on fenderbals i just think that this is this is this has the ability to be what like up and sinners does it's not going to hit a billion it's not even going to get close i don't think but but but i think it can have the kind of further sinners or Sinners, yeah. The sinners will not come close to a billion, but I think it will have the kind of fervor and the legs
Starting point is 00:21:12 to still maybe get to 4, 50, or 5. And from, it's a long shot, because you've got to go international really to do that. But I think enough people will continue to go. It will have the kind of cultural impact at the movies the way Oppenheimer and Barbie did. That's the only thing that I'm saying might take a little edge off of Thunderbolts. It's a great movie.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And I wonder what's going to happen with it. But, you know, turning it back to Thunderbolts, though, Koi, you know, if the movie, as you said, let's say it doesn't, it does, let's say it does 75, 80 and then it has a decent drop off week, too, and it does okay, overall. It's more important, though, I think, for Marvel that it's a good movie than it is crushing a box office, because you can have this movie do just okay and break even or even lose $15, $20 million, really. And if it's a great movie, it's critically acclaimed and it's pushing people towards the next, you know, movie. To me, that's a win. I don't know. How do you feel about it? I mean, they've been literally describing it as an A24-esque film.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And I think that's smart because it is a smaller budget. It does need to make less money. But so much of movies are now decided in the court of public opinion, like I know far too many people that don't make their own decisions. They go, like, what do people think? And then I'm going to go or not. So if people, like, I personally spend my own two hours my way. But I think it's going to be decided by whether or not the optics around it. Like so many people watch YouTube videos of people like us and make their decisions
Starting point is 00:22:44 that I think it's going to be required to make a certain amount of money just for the headlines and be good. But I agree, this movie uniquely has a quality thing from the feel of it that is going to carry Marvel in a really unique way. like I haven't felt this excited for a Marvel movie probably since No Way Home and that's been a few years. So the buzz I think is going to help, but it's going to really need people if it's as good as I think it will be to be lobbying for it. And I hope it's that great. And I haven't. Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Sorry. I was just going to say, I mean, I told y'all, y'all, y'all kept asking me which of the superhero movies am I most excited about? I said, Thunderbolts, then Superman, then Fantastic Four. And based off of what they're saying this movie is playing, like, I mean, I might be on to something. We'll see. Quality-wise, we'll see. Superman's still my number one as far as comic book movies in general. But this movie, like if you said to me, I know most people don't feel this way,
Starting point is 00:23:40 but if you said to me, you can only go see Thunderbolts are Fantastic Four and picking Thunderbolts. I think we're going to get the better film out of the two of them. But I don't know. I liked that last trailer more so that I think you did, Coy, the Fantastic Four. I thought two of the four actors were perfect. I also think you're both lunatics that I saw the show. That Daredevil finale was incredible
Starting point is 00:24:04 and did exactly what it was supposed to do. Oh, I loved it. He liked it. It was me. Then you're a lunatic. Which is fine. Look, I said it was a good episode and I liked it.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I just said that for me, I didn't think that I, it did not feel like a proper season finale for me. It felt like a winner finale. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like, okay, it will be right back. And that's my,
Starting point is 00:24:27 problem knowing that that's it's not coming into every months. Oh, wait, but it's coming, but it's coming back. I literally watched hacks that night, Winston, and it, season one ended on a cliffhanger way bigger and then we waited to eat. That's TV. That's TV. Not, not, not always, though. You did all acted like, like, like, like, like, real, not like that.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Not that literally felt like, we'll see you next week. I literally said the same. He really watched the episode. I'm impressed the fact that we got back to that. All right, listen, we have more to talk about. We got a lot to talk about. And I ask you guys about Thunderbolts. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:25:03 You think this movie's going to do good? Is it going to do bad? Are you excited for it? Are you going to see it in the theater? And the other question we didn't really get to, are more people going to wait for this one to hit streaming? And is it going to really find its legs there? Put your thoughts in there, let me know.
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Starting point is 00:27:08 she just disappeared. And it was, it was really bizarre. But we have more to discuss. You guys currently, as you're trying to catch Roxy, you guys are currently at 16. Not too shabby. Not too shabby.
Starting point is 00:27:24 All right. Not too shabby. That's the fifth of the way there. Yeah, you need to get 82 or 83. I can't remember. Luke will tell me in a second. But we have more stories to tell. And another story that we've been doing is, I feel like this is kind of like,
Starting point is 00:27:37 just talking about cliffhangers. We had a cliffhanger of that Blade story, which a, but not a great season finale, it seems like. And now we have another update on the story we've been talking about forever, and that's this Superman story. The judge, he rules on a co-creator's bid to reclaim the foreign copy.
Starting point is 00:27:55 who writes, will the reboot release without issue? What a teaser by Comic Hook movie. Mark Cassidy, as promotion for James Gunn Superman continues to heat up ahead of the DCU reboot summer release, studio recently ran into a potentially major setback. Now we got an update. Back in January, we learned that Warner Brothers and James Gunn's Superman may have run into a potentially major roadblock
Starting point is 00:28:18 on its journey to the big screen when Mark Piri, the nephew of the late Superman co-creator Joe Schuster, filed a lawsuit against Warner Brothers Discovery, DC Studios, DC Comics. Perry claimed that the studio lacks the rights to release the DC reboot in a handful of key territories, including Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, and Australia. The matter has to do with foreign copyrights to the original Superman character and the story of those Siegel and Schuster assigned worldwide rights to DC's predecessor in 1938. The copyright laws of countries with the British legal tradition contained provisions,
Starting point is 00:28:53 automatically terminating such assignments 25 years after an author's death. Besting in the Schuster estate, co-authors undivided copyright interest in such countries. The studio noted that the courts have repeatedly rejected Perry's claims, finding that his mother, Gene Peavy, signed away all the rights to the Superman character after Schuster's death in 1992. However, the estate's lawyer Mark Toboroff argued that in the overseas territories, copyright assignments automatically terminate 25 years after the author's death. Had the suit been successful, it could have interfered with the movies released this July, but it doesn't look like
Starting point is 00:29:29 this is going to be an issue. Following Warner Brothers filing a motion to dismiss in March, Bloomberg is reporting that a federal judge has rejected the estate's bid to reclaim the foreign copyrights, citing lack of jurisdiction over the case. Superman's overseas rollout was probably never in any real danger of being impacted, but it's nice to have confirmation that release will go ahead without issue. I still haven't watched that behind the scenes footage and I think because I missed it that day and I was going to you guys were covering I don't think you guys covered it on the show not sure we discussed it we didn't like show anything we talked about it but I haven't seen it yet but I I'm getting more hype for it every little piece that comes out and this is this is something I think we all kind of knew was coming it was going to be tough for them to beat Warner Brothers inside of this type of thing and they didn't really have much of a case if you asked me. But, Quoy, obviously, I think that you're probably, you're going to be torn on this one. I, you know, I'm so distraught at the thing happening that we all knew was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I think, you know, my cousins, nephews, Dog Walker owes me some money. No, it's tricky because I'm team, like, a creator should always have more rights than they seem to, but these weren't the creators. They were related to. And the problem becomes when it's like the fifth or sixth time. I'm trying to make a buck. Yeah, and it's really unfortunate when in the 40s, they weren't credit, or late 30s, early 40s, like there was not credit given to a level that could have been,
Starting point is 00:31:01 you know, like with Batman and Superman and lots of characters that era, but this isn't that era and these aren't those people. So it's, I don't want to seem unsympathetic, but at the same time, it doesn't seem fair to raise a stink every movie looking for, you know, pennies on the dollar from a thing that wasn't yours and isn't yours. So I think that they've been working on making the credit more proper. We've seen in the last 10 years Bill Finger get more credit on Batman. I think that we've done, you know, justice to a legacy.
Starting point is 00:31:28 But at the same time, if this is every movie, there's got to be a point where it's just not the courtroom's time to waste. What do you think, Winston? What do you make of the same type of thing? I mean, I think that Coy kind of hit the nail on the head. And I think the main thing to look at here is, is there disrespect being thrown at, you know, the legacy of the creators? It doesn't sound like that's a case. It sounds like, you know, I would love to know more about this nephew that's, that's, you know, trying to do this. But it sounds like he's like, I have a way to go get money.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Yeah. Ultimately what this sounds like. I haven't heard anything about this is how Warner Brothers has disrespected their legacy or it in my family's face or try to tear the character down. As this has come out, this just feels like I want Superman money because someone. Maybe you did some shit. It seems like a bunch of people were sitting around drinking wine. And this guy goes, you know what I was doing the other day? It's like, what were you doing?
Starting point is 00:32:27 I was going through the contract, Superman. Why are we doing that? I was bored. I'm a lawyer. Oh, yeah. And there's some, there's a, we might be able to sue one of us. Really? How?
Starting point is 00:32:40 Well, they say that after 25 years or someone dies, we can do it. It doesn't really cover it. is kind of like some red tape here. So we could just be a bunch of dicks and sue them and see what we get and say, like, hey, you're not, you're not doing us proud here. This you guys went over here and you did that, but this doesn't actually cover here and you're manipulating. And really, we'll just sue the shit out of them, throw our fingers in the air,
Starting point is 00:33:04 cross our fingers and see what we can get. And I feel like that's what happens. I say, fuck it. Let's do it. And that's what they did. And it didn't work out. That's a thousand percent what this feels like. And it's, it's kind of.
Starting point is 00:33:16 infuriating because there are actual people that have had like like i think of so many musicians where they don't know any better they know better now but like they don't know any better and then like obviously they they get the the record deal which means they get in advance but then their masters are owned by those those labels forever and they're not making any money off of their artistry and no deal to kind of set it up where they can try and get something back it's not what's going on here yeah you know what i'm saying so this is this just this just genuinely just feels like an asshole being asshole. Of course. Yeah. So apparently it happens all the time. So I don't know. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:33:53 What do you guys make of all this? You think that, do you think that they were slighted? Or the judge should have ruled in their favor? Or it's like, no, it seems like what we're saying here. I know that nobody really wants to have a route for the studios or say, hey, the studios won this one. All right. But it's like, it feels like they should have won this one. Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. We appreciate it. Before we move on, I gotta tell you guys this story, because I didn't get a kick out of. Amazing, my little one is pretty much like Joe Peschev,
Starting point is 00:34:22 I've told this. I was driving her gymnastics class last week, and it was right, it was like the day before Easter. So we're driving by this place. And I don't know if it was, it wasn't a church, but it was like, it was somewhere they were celebrating for Easter.
Starting point is 00:34:37 They had a Roman, a guy dressed, it was like, it was super, it was like 87 degrees out, by the way. And there was a guy dressed in a Roman soldier outfit, like just standing. like in the blazing sun and i go to my seven-year-old macy look look at that thinking you know seven-year-old's going to see kind of costume because it was pretty elaborate costume like macy take look at that she goes that guy's a lunatic and i go i go i see a lunatic and she goes you know how hot it is right now it's like i do and standing out there he's a lunatic and then she goes and he's not getting paid enough
Starting point is 00:35:16 It was incredible. And then the other, and then the other thing, we bust each other's chops sometimes, and I'll play around with her. And she goes, and I go, you breath stinks. And she goes, you're ugly. And I go, I go, you look just like me. She goes, yeah, but I'm the better looking version.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Mafioso. She really is. Dude, she is something else, man. She is. Anyway, a little story for you guys, and sometimes people like it. If you don't stick your head up your ass. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Next, this is a, we're sticking with D. guys because there's some green lanterns stuff going on that we have to discuss and do just that wait a minute wrong story just kidding there's a different one there's a there's a green landing story later i don't want that one it was like Ryan Reynolds still talking about i guess i mean he is he is but that's that's not the story i want to cover uh lanterns actor garret dilland uh dill hunt drops hint that he's playing green arrow james gun responds to that Okay, Mark Cassidy yesterday, some images posted by Lantern's actor, Garrett Delahunt, sparked speculation that the dead wooden last house and the left star
Starting point is 00:36:23 might be set to play Oliver Queen in the upcoming HBO series. When Delahunt's casting was announced, he was said to be playing a character named William Macon, who's described as a self-righteous conspiracy-minded man who massed his ruthlessness, ambition behind a charming and calculated a facade. It's easy enough to understand why fans might have assumed that he's really playing Ollie, the actor appeared in costume as Green Arrow and some behind-the-scenes photos and storyboard shots after all, but whatever his reason is for sharing the since deleted Instapost doesn't seem like he'll be suiting up as the Emerald Archer in DCU.
Starting point is 00:36:54 When asked if there was any truth to the rumor that Dill Hunt might be playing, excuse me, might have been cast as Green Arrow on the threads. James Gunn said no. Many fans were quick to point out that Dillon is too old to play Oliver Queen, but we didn't think he'd be getting a 59-year-old Hal Jordan. so it wouldn't have been outside the realm of possibility that they also decided to cast older for Howl's long time friend of me. Dylan has now shared the following clarification.
Starting point is 00:37:20 He said, no, no, me, I should be so lucky, but no, it's just a Halloween costume from a few years back. I'm just a nerd. I'm just a nerd, just a fan. Unless they want one-legged conspiracy, theory, the personal old man, Ollie, then maybe I'd have a shop, but no. No one tend to rile it up. That's the one. I see. Oh, I see. Okay. I've actually, I didn't realize that was some.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I've actually met him. a few times. I watched some UFC few faces them. I forgot that was his name. He was buddies with my friend Naveed. He's a nice guy. But we are going to get this character. We are not going to get it with him.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And we're not going to get it in a surprise. Hey, homie, don't tell anybody you're playing Green Arrow. Just tell us who Green Arrow is. It's like, you know, they're going to surprise you. like that there's other times they do with i i don't know you think am i wrong listening to surprise you green hour they're going to tell you when they cast them the only reason they would ever do that is if like if the way you would i think of like samuel jackson ended up being nick fury at the end if it's if it's a scenario where this has nothing to do with this story so you're trying to wait for it to set up something
Starting point is 00:38:31 else but but if he's going to be in this the whole of the show then no you would just tell people ahead of time. That seems silly to do that otherwise. What do you think, Quay? I think that it'd be, you know, fun if the universe is being set up in a way that you could have that surprise, but I don't think this is the way to do it. I mean, back in the day, we had the post credit scenes. I think that is not the way to necessarily always have it happen. I think an in-movie surprise would be awesome, but I feel like so early in the universe being set up, it's fun to get press riled up. It's fun to make big announcements. It's fun to get like those kind of things. So maybe down the line, but I wouldn't think green arrow and I wouldn't necessarily think here.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I think Gary DeLhunt's a fantastic actor. He's a delight. I've talked to him a couple times too, but I don't think that is the green arrow of starting a universe. I don't know what age. I don't know any of that, but Garrett Delahunt is, I think in it, I just don't think he's all like, I mean, I think he was just celebrating like, you know, being on a DC set and he addressed like a DC character. And then it's like, oh, right, PR.
Starting point is 00:39:32 And you're going to also realize this too. there are a lot of actors who don't understand the kind of shitstorms that happen when you do things like this. She's like, oh, this is fun for me to do. The guy's 60 years old. You think he's paying attention to comic book movie sites and everything to? No, of course he is. He's like, oh, and then he gets a phone call. You got to take that down.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Everyone thinks you're green, green areas. Oh, my God, I didn't know. I was excited. We know, we know you're excited, but it's just, it's how this thing goes. It's a circus. And but everybody always thinks, oh, he knew what he was doing. You didn't know what he was doing. Denzel barely knew what he was doing.
Starting point is 00:40:07 He was like, you know what I'm saying? Oh, 100%. He was seeing that movie and Ryan Cougar's next to the Black Panther movie. And everybody was like, whoa, Denzel, who's a master of PR and didn't realize it because he doesn't pay attention to this stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I went to Superman Day, and I'm just like comic correspondent. Like, I'm not a big cog in any machine. I'm a guy that does a show. And I wore my kingdom come Superman shirt, and three different journalists asked me if they were making that, if my shirt was confirmation for King's,
Starting point is 00:40:34 come and I was like I just like super Superman day so so like I it's insane but everybody's looking for the next thing I mean look look at Haley Steinfield and she was on she was on the carpet and someone goes are you in the next Avengers she kind of leans over and she nods or whatever and then some people made a video out of it like she looks like she went oops and then realize it and it could have been the case but she's also really good at what she does someone else asked her again she's like did I see that I don't even know yo hold Just quick pause. I know, Corey, you don't, you know, just you brought up Haley Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Quay, I know you don't mess with football like that. But, Christian, did you hear that apparently the very first scene that Haley Seinfeld and Michael B. Jordan shot was the train scene? No, the backroom scene. Okay. And so the running joke has been like, man, no wonder Josh Allen won MVP. He was throwing his heart out there as much as he could. Oh, like, are they gay? They're engaged, bro.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, so just the whole thing of like seeing he's like, the number of NFL players are like, I'm not seeing as sin is just because Josh Allen is my boy. Can I tell you how, after hearing that story that I've just gotten very proud of myself? I know I hate attention to celebrities, love lives at all, and I'm so proud of myself because that's fair. I don't care. I don't get, I don't get involved at that, but I follow Josh Allen. I don't give a shit. Well, it's still funny.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I'll give a shit. You know what I'm saying? Mustard. Yes. At least no one's cursing. No, mustard. Stop that. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Anyway, what do you guys think about all this? Everything we talked about, Green Laner, D.C., all that more green arrow. Who's showing up? Who's not showing up? Who gives you shit? What do you think? We're going to have some new lighting in the studio. This table is going bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Brett said, hey, tell them about the. Amazon list. I need some stuff. If you guys want to look at the Amazon list, it's in the description. You don't, it's fine. I didn't say that though. Brett doesn't know. Brett doesn't watch his show. So he won't know that I'm not really pushing it that hard, but it's in the description. He told me, he said, just tell them about the Amazon list. I need some stuff for the studio.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Well, we'll see. Anyway, um, so this is the next story. And then we're going to get to some questions. So, Corey, we've got to do a Spider-Man story for you, man. Got it. And Flash Thompson actor, Tony Revel, Laurie talks about Agent Venom chances ahead of Spider-Man brand new day. Spider-Man No Way home star Tony Robloy has shared his thoughts on potentially suiting up as anti-hero agent Venom in next summer Spider-Man's brand new day, admitting that that is the dream to do it.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Josh Wilding says during Venom, the last dance's final battle, there was a brief mention of a soldier called Thompson, who appeared to have his legs bitten off by a rampaging xenomorph. xenomorph, excuse me. We've heard the plan was for Venom 4 to be Agent Venom movie with a new lead with the three equals post credit scene strongly hinting that the symbiote had survived. However, the movie only did so-so numbers at the box office. And then when Craven the Hunter flopped,
Starting point is 00:43:42 what? Only abandoned its slate of spinoffs, at least for now. Well, not according to me. When Winston and I were talking about it a few weeks ago, apparently it's what we're going on. In the comic, Flash Thompson lost his legs while fighting for the U.S. Army in the Middle East.
Starting point is 00:44:01 The military bonded him with the Venom symbiite, giving him his legs back in the process, when only for limited amounts of time, lest he risk being permanently bonded to the alien. Tony River Lurie plays Flash in the MCU, having previously bullied Peter Parker and his Spider-Man homecoming in Spider-Man far from home before idolizing the web slinger and by extension Peter in No Way Home, talking to the direct about his new movie, Marsh Molo, Revelo, Reveloy, shared his thoughts on the possibility of potentially becoming Agent Venom and Spider-Man brand new day. Yeah, you know, look, I read the comics that everyone's read. I would be really,
Starting point is 00:44:36 really effing exciting to do something like that. It would be really cool. I have no idea what or when, or maybe we'll see. Look, the hope is to do it, the dream is to do it, and we'll see if it ever happens. But doesn't, they're making great shit regardless that I will watch over and over and over again. I'm just happy to have been part of it. Great comment. Great comment. Indeed. You've done quite a few things with Tony before, right, Coy? like friends. Yeah, so like, and he's pretty much a big comic guy like you. Dude, he is such a nerd and he's so passionate. Like, he will talk about Spider-Man because of his love of Spider-Man. And he, that's such a genuine thing. He wants to do stuff, but he also knows there's so many cogs. He's also very aware that,
Starting point is 00:45:12 like, he's going to watch it. He likes Spider-Man. So, uh, yeah, he, he challenged me to a movie fight. And then we've been friends ever since. So like a decade ago, uh, the dude is a nerd and he's really passionate about this stuff. But, uh, he doesn't know any more than we do yet, because everything's cooking. Yeah, Winston, you think there's any shot that they did the storyline in the next one, or is there just already too much stuff going on? I think there's too much going on. I think that there is a world where eventually it happens in the same way that I think there's a world where we eventually get, uh, you know, Ned as hobgoblin, but I don't think that's the focus right now. I think that that is, I think Venom is going to be put on the back burner. I potentially,
Starting point is 00:45:46 as Coy suggested, maybe Peter getting the black suit during Secret Wars, uh, similar to the comics and then we re-engage with Venom that way, but we will have to wait and see. All right. Well, what do you guys think about that? Do you think that they should do this with Tony? Do you think that they should do this at all? Or do you think, no, we have too much stuff to focus on in the next Spider-Man. Put your thoughts in there.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Let us know what you think. I think the last story we're going to talk about is something that is very comic book-related. There's a lot of comic books that they do in this series. I think Koi would agree. And I hate when they do this. Stop this. Stop it. Oh, you fuckers.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Oh. Why don't you keep your mic and mute the... Can you hear me now? Yeah, I can hear you. I muted it. I figured out how to do it. But I really despise when they do that. Anyway, so this is this new trailer, Badlands, that just came out.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Did you guys both see the trailer? I did not. I know I'm watching it. So let's bring this up first. The director reveals new details as Elephanx character, Alien Connection, is confirmed. 20th Century Studios debuted the first trailer for the next live action movie in the Predator franchise Badlands earlier this week,
Starting point is 00:47:12 and director Dan Tratchelberg, who also on Prey has now shares some new details, said the filmmaker confirms that the Badlands will at least partitionally take place on the Predator's home planet. Okay, okay, okay. One of the things about the movie. There's some stuff from the extended universe. We decided to treat it like Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I mean, that's, I don't even want to go too much into this because I want to spoil it for the guys. But I, so it's funny. This goes to show you as far as creators getting more of a benefit of doubt than the actual trailer that they put out, right? Because I saw the trailer itself and I thought that the trailer was fine. I really did not like the look of the new predator, like the main predator that is in the movie. I've seen at least images of that and that looked weird to me. It looked like,
Starting point is 00:48:04 it looked like someone at a Halloween party. It looked like the costume that Mark Ellis makes fun of me all the time that I bought for Schmo's and that I wore out. It looks, it doesn't look good. It looks like, it looks like a regular dude wearing a predator hat. And that could change because like I said,
Starting point is 00:48:20 Dan Trasper from his comments and from prey, he gets what predator is. He understands it. More so than anybody that has come since, I think, McTiernan, he really does understand it how it is supposed to be smaller, how he understands the world, the lore, the lore. So that's why it's like benefit of the doubt. But the trailer itself, and Elefano looked good, but I'm looking going, I don't know if I'm going to get bored with this main character. This kind of looks goofy.
Starting point is 00:48:47 But maybe it, maybe it changes. I don't know, but I guess it's harder for you guys to say because you really haven't seen anything yet. Yeah, I've been skipping every non-comic movie trailers so I can watch the movie. I don't trust studios anymore. I feel like studios are just like, we need butts and seats. Show the third act. I'm just skipping trailers unless I'm getting paid. Especially from the standpoint that the reactions to the comic trailers do numbers for me.
Starting point is 00:49:11 But like I did one for Eddie Aiberi's new movie and it didn't do anything. Sorry, A.O. I. I.O. I. I. be what's wrong with me i'm having a thing i'm having a stroke um but it just didn't do anything so i if i don't i agree with coy if i don't have to watch it for work i try and avoid it because i just want to enjoy the movie same i mean i wish so that i never watched that second sinners trailer um he gave away so much i still love the movie it's my favorite movie the year so far but like it i think i would like that even a little bit more with not knowing what was coming because i remember there a couple times i'm like oh well that hasn't happened yet i know that happens so
Starting point is 00:49:48 that's a bummer. And that, I don't think that was a coogler decision, and I think it was a studio decision. So I agree. But that's the last of the bad land stuff I'm going to watch. I only watch it because I knew that we were going to talk about it on a couple of different shows. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:50:00 I'm curious to see because, again, I really like what Trachenberg did. But as far as the article itself about paying attention to the lore, how do you not love that? I don't love the fact that he wants to do that. He wants to do those things. And he wants to take certain aspects from things that he's seen and make it like a, a big kind of old a big canon and pay attention to that canon how do you know if you're a favorite
Starting point is 00:50:23 predator how do you like that yeah i i mean that that's what you want you want a creator that is going to that is going to actively do something like that so i love that i mean i'll be honest with you the main predator news that i've been paying attention to and we're keeping it full circle with this coy i'm assuming you've been reading all these predator v marvel character stuff and have did you already read the the the first issue of spider man because whole wait what is it for what is Predator v. Spider-Bed. They're doing a predator versus individual Marvel character series. They did Wolverine already.
Starting point is 00:50:55 They did. Was it Panther? Panthers my favorite so far. It was Panther, Wolverine. Because Panther is when we get his son between Tachala and Storm. So he's out here with mutant powers and he's the Panther, which is awesome. And the predators are looking for vibranium. That's like the ultimate weapon source.
Starting point is 00:51:13 All the reasons are dope. Yeah. And so now it is. Predator versus Spider-Man, and there's a predator in New York acting like a serial killer, and they think it's just some regular serial killer, but no, Predator is loose in New York City.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Oh, wow. That sounds good. Well, you got a lot of stuff to watch or read. You got Predator running around against Marvel characters, Spider-Man, everyone else. What do you think about the trailer, though? What do you think about the comments from Trash and Brue? Do you think this is a good thing, bad thing? Do you think that the predator looks good? You think it looks like
Starting point is 00:51:45 shite? Put your thoughts in there. let us know. All right, we're going to get to the questions here today. And currently, 23, not too bad. You still need around 60 to tie. And 61 to win the week. So we'll see if the audience is going to push you there or not. We have some time here today to do just that. Before we do it, Winston, you were mentioning your channel before. What do you got going on in the channel? Where can I find it? Absolutely. You can find me at the Swaggy Blurt on YouTube and on Twitch. I'm going to, to the essentially what's going on right now. I actually have a pretty big project happening
Starting point is 00:52:22 where I am going to have to go slightly dark for a little bit outside of, we're doing spill of tequila with Roka and then being here. Sorry, I just got some of my mind. I will explain more about that once I'm allowed to, but if you want to know why I decided to rock the 90s dead stash, it's because of that certain thing. So please keep an eye out, check all that stuff out.
Starting point is 00:52:44 I will put out announcements when stuff is dropping and all that, I appreciate the support. And yeah, go check out Koi's shit. Coy, tell him what you got, man. Yesterday, a counten two review went up. Two days ago, I broke up all by Andor's individual videos. So episode one of Andor, two of Andor three of Andor, days before that, and my last of us, episode two.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Every week I'm doing all my favorite comics live. I read about 50 a week. This is roughly half a week that I need to read. And then I give you my favorite nine comics of that week. Every single week this week, I'm going to be seeing Thunderbolts Monday, putting my review up on Tuesday, spoiler-free, Wednesday, doing my comic coverage Thursday, doing whatever show was out,
Starting point is 00:53:19 and then Friday, spoiler review of Thunderbolts, and then Saturday, going back into the next cycle. So please, I'm almost at 50K. Join me. Get them there.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Yeah, speaking, it's funny. I did the same thing for Andor on, when it was a Tuesday or whatever, Wednesday. I thought that was coming on
Starting point is 00:53:34 on Wednesday for some reason. And so I missed it, but I put all episodes that I did the reactions and stuff for three separate videos. I'm not doing that again this week. I'm going to make them one big, I'm going to make them one big video.
Starting point is 00:53:46 I'm going to give it one more week of trying because I didn't think ahead. I posted them at when the first episode ended and I should have waited until the third episode ended because no one's going to stop watching to watch thoughts. So I'm going to try one more time individual and then if that doesn't work, I'm going to do them all as a chunk. I'm just dropping it as a chunk because they play all of these episodes. I've seen the whole season. Have you?
Starting point is 00:54:06 No. So they play like movies? Yeah, each one plays the movies. There's four arcs. There's episode. There's arc. One, which we just watched, which was good, real good. It is my least favorite arc out of all the four.
Starting point is 00:54:22 And it's real good, the first one. I would go, arc, and I said this before, arc three is my favorite arc. Arc four and two are tied, and then one is my least. And I love one. That's high praise. You didn't see nothing yet. It's the best Star Wars written, acted show, and acted anything, or produced anything since Empire Strikes Back, hands down.
Starting point is 00:54:48 I'm loving it so far. I'm unenamored with the world, but also how it's letting it breathe philosophically, so you have time to think about stuff. Even with the binge model, it's still, I actually like this release okay so far. I haven't started yet just because stuff going on,
Starting point is 00:55:05 but I didn't finish the first season of Andrew, so I need to do that first and come back. Yeah, yeah, you have to. Speaking of the accountant, too, as Quint mentioned, check out Matt Serra's channel today. He had Gavin O'Connor on for a good hour in like 25 minutes or something. It's a really good conversation. They're like the two peas in the pod, those guys.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Like they, you can just tell they really get along well and it's a great conversation. Gavin's a very open dude. Talks a lot of cool stuff. Matt and him just have a really good report. So I highly recommend going over there. You can also check out chunks of that interview that will be up. We're going to put some clips out pretty soon of it, so check it out. All right, let's see.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Let's see if you guys can do it. Can you take out Roxy here today? Roxy looking to get another win. Last week, it was you guys, but can you come back and do it again? We shall say Mike and Steph had a good run yesterday, but they couldn't quite do it. Okay, let's get to the first one. And we got a new member, guys. So hell, Actar.
Starting point is 00:56:10 So good time to become a new member. I'll tell you that. We just did a bunch of unedited reactions. are probably going to put the we put Civil War up today. I put four up yesterday. Black Widow will be probably next. We just did the Black Widow movie. The reaction was Sam. So that'll be
Starting point is 00:56:25 that unedited, excuse me, the edited one is up and the unedited will come soon. Nathan Drake, first did you catch hot mic last night? I thought Jeff made some good points about sinners. He asked, why did this movie need to cost $90 million and is not doing well internationally either for some reason?
Starting point is 00:56:41 Well, $90 million for a studio, budget movie with that kind of cast today like 10 years ago 90 million is a lot of money it's nothing it's like kind of like akin to 50 million 10 years ago you know it's kind of like a smaller movie I think the movie look if you would have said 80 million okay I think 90 was they and I think he used every penny for the right the right way so um I don't know as far as internationally I think that's why when Winston was saying it's going to make all like hoping it's going to make a lot of money as do I. I think internationally is going to hold it back. And once I went to see just how bad it's doing international, bad is the wrong answer.
Starting point is 00:57:23 But, you know, obviously there's a couple of things. I mean, one, without getting to the grand scope of things, you already have China, which has been pulling back from American movies and things have obviously escalated in the last couple of months. But so you have that. It is what it is one way or the other, but the numbers it's doing here and the numbers that I think it genuinely will continue to do for the next few weeks, it will be fine. Like, I'm not, I don't think anybody's worried about that. And I don't think it would have necessarily been the same movie if you would take some stuff out. Because like, that's what you would essentially have to do. Like, Ryan is not known to be wasteful with his budgets. You know what I'm saying? So I'm curious where
Starting point is 00:58:00 it would have been taken away from. Yeah, I didn't see all of Jeff's point, so I can't really respond to them. But as far as I kind of agree, that internationally is, you know, it's not performed, but 90 million? I think it deserved 90 million. Robert, any advice on an easy way to read Zatana's spells? I read Shakespeare for fun and her spells break my brain. So Christian, her spells are written in reverse. So all the letters are the other way. So I personally, I love trying to piece it together phonetically and just figure out what the words are.
Starting point is 00:58:36 But you can also take a mirror. Yep, just a mirror. That's pretty much it. Or, I mean, there are plenty of, like, riddles and puzzles that, like, train your brain to read backwards. So that's also another thing you could do. But, like, when I was watching Young Justice, I would put the subtitles on if I was trying to figure out what the spell was. And then just pause and go, oh, okay, that's what she's saying. That's what I heard.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Yeah, essentially what Christian just said right now, if you're trying to figure out that spell was, I'm motherfucking bad bad. I know. There you go. Robert, does Daredevil cold day in hell remind everyone else that Dark Night returns at all? And do you enjoy it so far? Is that a new comic? Dude, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:59:21 It's basically Old Man, Matt. And it's Matt Murdoch doesn't have powers. It's a dystopian nightmare of a world. It's like a broken New York. And it's very much Frank Miller's take on Dark Night Returns. But it's also very Frank Miller Daredevil. It's fantastic. And yes, I have enjoying it.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Speaking of a Broken New York, I don't know what we're, I don't necessarily know it was Broken New York or wherever it is. Have you watched, Coy, did you watch Havoc? Yeah, dude, I loved it. It was so crazy. It was like in New York and Chicago and Baltimore just, but like just broke. The whole city feels like Gotham.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Yeah, it does. It's a new Tom Hardy movie that's kind of the director of the raid. It's bad shit crazy. For two hours. The only thing I, it's not even two hours. An hour and 40 minutes. So the, the whole reason you watch this movie is for the club scene and for the, and for the cabin scene.
Starting point is 01:00:11 That's it. I mean, the rest of it's really, is really good, but those two seem like more money did in action sequences. This is a, this is a Netflix movie? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:00:18 dude, it's out today. This right now. Yeah, and my reaction to it should be dropping tomorrow. It's like a white knuckle experience of Tom Hardy, just losing it. It's insane,
Starting point is 01:00:28 but it's like the story, and the story behind is good. There's some, there's some questionable decisions by some of the characters, but that's not why you go to watch it. Okay. I enjoyed it. Robert, thank you Robert.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Wait, did we read that one? Oh, do you ever drop a comic book because you can't get over the art? Like, I don't care for the art in Absolute Manhunter, for instance. That is my favorite art in absolute so far. That's so funny. That's literally of the absolute imprint. That's my favorite art. I don't know, not to condone drugs.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Oh, wow, that looks good. I like that. Yeah, and it ties into the story so directly. It's so psychedelic. Um, not to condone drugs on YouTube, but it might help your experience. Perfect. Next one is Christopher Brickner. Revenge of the Sith box office this weekend.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Wow. What was it? They re-released it for what that. How much did it do? Let's see. Let's see. Box office mojo. Uh, let's see.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Three million strong last yesterday. Oh, okay. So I made three million yesterday. So it'll probably, we'll see what it does this week. in general, so we don't really have a number on it yet, but I bet you, because it was tracking a pretty big number. People want re-releases. I think this is like, the Spider-Man's did well.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Like, I think more movies in theaters. Well, think about it. Think about the Star Wars fans that have come, that are like, you know, 20 years old now, and they get a chance to see this in the theater. That maybe they want to go check it out and go see it in the theater. It's a smart play, and I think. Being Superman 78 in the theater was so incredible, like more of that. Uh, go pal. Shout out to Corey for calling attention to the magic me,
Starting point is 01:02:10 the mind sleep formula been using for a week. And with your code, it's great. I love hearing that. Yeah, if you don't use our magic mind thing when we're talking about it, I mean, they're on the show today, but we won't rave about them. You're making a mistake. It's, it's, it's, they're fantastic. I literally have not slept this well since middle school. Like high school onward, I just don't sleep good. Magic mine genuinely helped. It's good. Reggie Brown. I wouldn't mind Jamie Lawson from Sinners playing Storm. Which, which, which, Jamie Losson?
Starting point is 01:02:36 was the one that Sammy was with, I believe. Oh, yes, yes, yes. She was good. She was good. I wouldn't be opposed to that. I just, again, my situation at the end of the day is I'm still trying to, like, at least she is of a darker skinned.
Starting point is 01:02:54 She is, Storm is an Amazon, essentially. Like, I'm really looking for like a, just a tall drink of water. Right. She played the mayor in the bat. Oh, yeah. the whole movie i was like who is this woman and i was like oh wait the mayor it's a breath of fresh air oh okay uh all right let's see next one there pld projects i appreciate a good stash for
Starting point is 01:03:17 winston coy you're next if coy shaves off the rest yeah it would work oh i'm rossin i look like a cop what you look like a cop oh you would you would stick with your olive queen yeah that's fine i'll run i'll run gordon you be queen that's fine sean mccabe christian coy winson happy friday gentleman one week until Thunderbolts, super stoked. Corey, congrats on the DC gig. Well deserved. Did you get a new gig? What happened?
Starting point is 01:03:43 So, dude, there's a, there's a, we're adapting the comics directly into radio plays. So everyone that's like, oh, why don't they, movies just adapt the comics directly. We're doing it. And it's, we just did year one.
Starting point is 01:03:54 We're doing the long Halloween. You'll love the score, dude. Full composer. Every different villain gets their own, like, and a blizzard and a blend of the orchestra. And the sound design is like a million, like it's an incredible,
Starting point is 01:04:05 piece and it's one to one word for which are you and you're reading it out i'm hosting all the interviews oh okay so i sit down do i'm sitting down with jeff lobe who wrote the long Halloween i'm sitting down the voice actor that did batman oh what is my last year uh the first episode of my stuff started yesterday oh great and you can let's go it on spotify you can watch it on youtube and dude you'd like this because watching it on youtube it's the cinematic comic with the audio and then you can grab your own it's so good i think you you probably i don't know if you interviewed or yet but my friend Reba Burr has been working on that. I believe she was Catwoman.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Dude, she's also the opening voice. I start talking right after her. She welcomes you into the show. So Reba is like the voice before me. That's awesome. Okay, good. I go watch that. Vincent Zawada. Happy birthday to Pacino. Whoa. Favorite movie of his.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I have a lot, you know, I will, I mean, the easier the Godfather ones and Scarface and Devil's Advocate, He, he is one of my favorites too. He, he's got the most quotable lines. Yeah. And not just, you're not even just that.
Starting point is 01:05:06 It's like when he is, my favorite is when Tone Lokes talking to me, man, I get killed talking, talking, telling you about this. He goes, you kill walking you dog it.
Starting point is 01:05:17 So good. He's like, he's like, who? Who? Who? What are you fucking owl? It's so,
Starting point is 01:05:22 it's so good. It's just so unhinged, but young. Great. I love it. So yeah, I would say, but I would also say devil's advocate is a,
Starting point is 01:05:30 is a good one too. Yeah. You got one, Winston? I mean, I love him in any given Sunday. Yeah, scent of a woman. I haven't seen sent. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Yeah, I haven't seen scent. But any given Sunday is probably the one that sticks out the most off the top of my head. Yeah. I'm in the dark, yeah. You understand? I'm in the dark. I mean, who doesn't love Scarface? That wasn't Scarface.
Starting point is 01:05:57 No, no, no, I know that. I'm saying as I heard you. I heard your impression. I'm just looking at his filmography now to try and remember. The sympathy of all things is centers an allegory for Coogler and Marvel. A little bit. I think so. A little bit just like as far as the dive of keeping things, keeping your art,
Starting point is 01:06:17 keeping it centered to yourself and this idea also of it then kind of selling it out one way or the other. Like there's, there was a lot of talk about, you know, kind of keeping stuff close to the chest, keeping stuff of the community, being like yourself, the main. allegory for that is like smoke and stack when people are handing over like wooden nickels and stuff like hey man we only take real money we only take this that and the other and then deciding if they're going to talk to the white people like all of that is kind of a lot of the push and pull for that somewhat he he talked about it in his open letter as well uh to the fans so uh old man mike blade canceled why don't they his internet went out that's mike kalinowski
Starting point is 01:07:03 He's got my AOL discs back. I can't tell you how many times, like it's absolutely hilarious, eight free. Oh, you know what? I'll actually play you. Even when he's laughing, I have a clip that's pretty, from yesterday's thing that is pretty good.
Starting point is 01:07:20 You guys have got a kick out of it and just find it. Where is it? Oh, here it is. Watch this. But like humans, every one of us are different. We all have, you know, distinct features. eyes and a nose and two ears and a mouth right so there's going to be that but the stop step just stop you're usually my buddy just stop it just stop step you're usually my
Starting point is 01:07:45 sidekick I can't do this I'm your side kick but I'm not gonna be okay I'm done I'm done okay what you laughing that stuff you laugh at those hands you've got huge hands kid no I don't yes you do what I'm Hold that hand up to this hold that hand up to your face step hold that thing up to your face you put it up to your face. Steph put that hand up to your face. Look at those things. Look at those things.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Okay, you really maybe you have a small hands. No, I've got normal hands. Look at next to my face. Now look at your hand next to your face. I have claws. You're your pound for pound of the nubs of your. What's that? pumper pound greatness. It's a tear rolling down my face because I was just offended.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Big handed pineapple loving freak. Yeah, 100%. Perfectly proportioned. Thank you very much. That's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Poor stuff. How dare you, Mike? How dare? Oh, how dare? Look at Mike. I can't breathe Step, put your hands up. Put them up. Step, put your hands up. So good.
Starting point is 01:09:35 So great. Oh, my God, bro. So great. That's what we do here. The sink lord. Could young race, Briggs beat Jet Lee from Lethal 4 character. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I think that'd be the fight because I think the implication was like, oh, he's above me in the, obviously in the fourth one, but I always like the idea of like that was kind of like him facing his past like ability. Yeah, I mean, he definitely was too old by the time he went up against him. But like his cat, he is, even though Lethal weapon four is not the best, I still like it a lot, but it's not the best. He's one of the most devastating villains. And he was so fast.
Starting point is 01:10:14 they had to slow him down because the cameras couldn't capture him. It's hilarious. That was, yeah, I don't know. That was a tough one. Mark became a member. Hell yeah, man. Welcome back. Zerod.
Starting point is 01:10:26 How are you going to tell Sam that RDJ is back as a villain? I'm not, because you know what I've been doing? I have been doing this new thing. If you watch Black Widow, what I did. I did it for Falcon and Winter Soldier. For things she knows, like I won't do this for Shang Chi, because she doesn't know it. For things she knows, I basically go,
Starting point is 01:10:48 okay, you don't know what's coming here. I'm not going to tell you. I tell her nothing about what she's about to watch. So she comes in and she's like the other day with Black Widow, she's like, she just knew she was watching a movie. She had no clue what she was watching. So when she saw Scarlett Johansson's name pop up on the screen, she went through that whole opening scene,
Starting point is 01:11:02 not knowing who the characters were, just these two little girls and David Harbor. And then when she saw Scarlet Johansson, she lost her mind and she would, so by the time that that movie, when Doom's Day comes out, out, I'm going to watch that with her when it comes out on digital, and I'm not going to tell her anything about it. I'm going to let her find out about Downey on the thing, unless she's watching
Starting point is 01:11:22 the show right now, and then it's over, but she doesn't, she's working. So there you go. All right, Christopher Brickner, box office shows how much prequels meant to kids who saw it. Well, kids who saw the sequels feel the same. I think it's too early to tell us, things are different for the two trilogies. Yeah, I think it'll be, I don't know, man. I just, I don't know if the new trilogy had the magic for it because people were talking about the
Starting point is 01:11:50 Star Wars prequels as kids for a bit I don't think it captured the imagination the same way I don't I'm not not at all I think for sure but I just don't think I think especially when the prequels came out they were really the only game in town there was no Marvel there was not this a Marvel was in its prime when the new trilogy came out
Starting point is 01:12:10 I also like I'll be honest with you I was a massive nerd, but I wasn't jacked into like the internet and people talking about stuff the way I was. And we weren't shit like as kids, we weren't shitting on the prequels. Like they actually were very funny because of the lightsaber battles and stuff like that
Starting point is 01:12:29 versus now the way people have gone in on the sequels and understandably so for a number of reasons. It just reads a little different. So I don't know. And it does carry over to kids because I'll tell you, My, Koi, my 13-year-old, and I hate, I hate that this happens, but like, I, she was, I hate this, this was the most, a lot of conversations you have as a parent. I hated this conversation. This was a few years back.
Starting point is 01:12:56 My daughter's like, dad, is it wrong to like certain, like Disney movies? And I was like, why? And she's like, because I saw something on this site that people that like Disney movies are, are bad and wrong and everything to it. And I'm like, no, honey, you like what you like, what you like. and don't worry about what people are saying. And she's like, yeah, but there are people, there are bullying people for, like, in this Marvel movie or Star Wars, whatever it was.
Starting point is 01:13:20 And I don't, should I not watch those movies? And I'm like, horrible. She was like 11 years old. And I'm like, no, you watch movies what you don't watch because kids are on the internet, unfortunately, and they see that kind of shit and that nonsense that starts to come in. And it's like, make your own opinion for it. You like it.
Starting point is 01:13:35 You hate it. You hate it, but watch it. Yeah. I mean, I remember Disney, like when I was growing up and I was really, little. There was like weird, like, religious people in my family that were like, oh, there's magic. It's the devil stuff. And I was like, hell. And now I feel like that's coming back. And so, like, I'm curious how that relates to the next wave of Disney. Not necessarily that specific, but that kind of like weird energy around it. But I think Star Wars will have a similar thing where it gets popular in a decade,
Starting point is 01:14:02 but not to the same scale. Because there is more like it now. Like, I think when a prequels came out, that was less fantasy, sci-fi, just to scale. But now, you know, the sequels came out in this age of Marvel. So I think they'll be more nostalgia for early Marvel than there will be for sequel Star Wars. It's, it's that what you're talking about with people like, oh, it's the devil. You know they've already been doing that about sinners, right? Like not a large contingent, but there's been a number of people. You see how they're trying to tell you to worship the devil.
Starting point is 01:14:33 I was like, I kind of feel like it's the opposite when you considered, like, at the beginning of the movie. No, there's no spoiler, but at the beginning of the movie, you know, Sammy's preacher of a father was like, I told you not to be messing with the devil. Like, it actually feels like the exact opposite.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Right, yeah, people are always looking for that kind of complaint. It's never true. Yoshimitsu, on a scale of blade to Nosferatu, how scary slash disturbing is sinners. Nosephratu traumatized my girlfriend, and she only trusts Winston to know if sinners is safe, since he's scared, or you guys are the best. As opposed to Nosferatu, I mean, it's child's spike.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Because there's some really disturbing scenes in Nosephiratu for sure, like at the beginning scene. And it plays way more horror. This is more on the side of blade, I would say. I would make the argument that the only, oh, is like the very beginning because you're not really ready. There's flashbacks. And the flashback jump scares.
Starting point is 01:15:31 And that's it. And then after that, the occasional, oh, but it's not, it's really not bad. No, it's not. Ethan Ingram. What's up, guys? Sorry, you've covered this ready, but you guys noticed the Spider-Man theme playing in the Daredevil finale. No. I didn't clock that.
Starting point is 01:15:47 No, when was that? Was it maybe when he said he needs an army? Give us a time code. Yeah, please. Give us a time code on that. I'd like to go back and watch that. All right, guys, we got about, well, either 40 minutes or we're going to have a short show here today. We have 34 questions so far.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Come on. So right now, it looks like we're going to be. Roxy might have it, might have it, but we'll see. All right. TX. Rogue Driver, guys, I know we have the comics, but has DC or Marvel ever tried writing, selling novels, I guess? There are, like, novelizations of comics for sure. I don't generally read them because when I'm reading a novel, I'm trying to not only read comics. I haven't read any of the, but like Star Wars has novelizations.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Marvel and DC do as well. Okay. next one here Christopher Brickner Kimberg is on a streak of bad film screenplays and Ray film has a first time feature director it's very possible the films are poorly reviewed
Starting point is 01:16:46 well Kimber is not working on that one you're talking about you're just saying in general okay it happens now how bad would that be for Star Wars and Ray well Kimberg's doing a separate trilogy altogether he's not doing the one with Chenoy but yeah it would but this is why but this is why the Ray movie is not coming out first.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Remember, when it was announced it, everyone thought that it would be the Mandalorian and Grogu. And then the Ray movie. And then they realized that's probably not the route to go. So they're going safe choice with Sean Levy because he just did a billion-dollar movie with Deadpool. They're getting Ryan Gosling.
Starting point is 01:17:24 It's the right choice. What they're doing, I will say. I know I haven't been complimentary to them lately, but this is the right choice for them to do after Mandalorian Grogu. You're doing the Moana Two-Planky. with Mandalorian and Grogu, and that worked out for you, so you hope that works out again for this.
Starting point is 01:17:41 And then following year, you're going to do your gossip movies. You might have two hits on your hands leading into, you'd give yourself enough room for Kenberg. And I honestly, I don't even think that'll be the next one after that. I think Mangol will be the third. So you could potentially go boom, boom, boom,
Starting point is 01:17:54 and be in a position, as Corey said before, where Star Wars could bounce back, that if you have a little bit of a setback with Ray or something at that point, the today's uh judgment judgment of the property will not be the same and those three are a hell of a trifecta if that works out that way yes if it works out if it works out that is it's a good plan it's a good plan if they can actually make it happen it's a good plan uh sam thomas the actor playing green arrow is harry goodwin's news to me you know that um go pal Garrett Dillan, was great in the Saracana Chronicles and an arc on life with Damien Lewis and Sarah Shahai.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Not enough people remember that show. I don't know that one, but I like Damian Lewis. There was a place, guys, my old way before I knew you guys, but when I lived on, I used to live right by the Beverly Center. And there was a bar that used to be there called St. Nix. And it was like our spot. We would go there all the time. And I'm assuming, Corey, you're a band of brothers guy. Yeah. So like Damien Lewis and all those guys like were hanging like he hung out there all the time like at that bar we would go in it. It was great. But yeah, Damien Lewis is great. He's such a good actor. I feel like he doesn't get enough like love for how good he is when people bring up the great. And he was so great in that movie. That's band of brothers that show is my favorite still my favorite miniseries of all time.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Like definitely made me believe miniseries could be as good as my favorite movie. like it's that good easily dancing dog 60 when did fans start rooting for box office results like it's sports certain phantoms act like they're making or losing money themselves thoughts well it depends it depends on for box office because they they want their things to succeed and that's what is the measure of the business itself but i also think that one of the main things like i i give a pushback jeff sniner we just talked about before i give such a pushback like why do you care about what the box office is it doesn't affect you bullshit it totally affects me a thousand percent of it Yeah, because it affects me in the stuff that I like.
Starting point is 01:20:04 If something really good, if they spend too much money on the property that we love, and you make a movie that should cost $60 million, and they spent $200 million on it. But let's say you're a Black Adam fan. Let's say that you can, you just been waiting for Black Adam to come out. You were waiting for it. It's like a movie that you, and you didn't mind what they made, but it made $200 million to make profit.
Starting point is 01:20:24 They're never making it ever again. And now it's affecting you because you're like, shit, I would have liked to see the sequel. I was like one of my favorite things growing up and now I'll never see it. And that's why it should affect you. It also, it isn't just the property. If your favorite actor or director is involved in too many bombs, they don't get additional chances.
Starting point is 01:20:43 So I want sinners to go off because I want Ryan Coogler to keep making effing movies. You know what I didn't get? The nice guys too. So I care about box office. Right. That's why it counts. And it counts so much. And it's like because people are overspending or you could have gotten somebody
Starting point is 01:21:01 maybe you overspent on an actor because they were a name and you spent too much money on them when you probably could have gotten someone who was better for the role and you blew your budget on that you blew your budget on other stuff and it of course it affects you and i never understood that argument from snider on other people like people say it all the time in the comment section like what are you talking about when people make that comment as much as like all three of us but Koi and I in particular are like, you know, I'm always rooting for artists. You have to remember the business side of this
Starting point is 01:21:34 and especially how capitalistic Hollywood has gotten more so than it's been in the past. So it's incredibly important. Yes. Dancing Dog 60. What was the last movie you were excited about that turned out to be total ace? For me, it was Superman Returns, total disappointment, boring. Last movie I was excited about Joker 2. I was pumped for that movie.
Starting point is 01:21:56 I was on it It was the absolute farts The last I'm trying to think of the most recent disappointment Like my biggest ever is X-Men 3 After X-Men 1 and 2 That's my biggest one Yeah it's bad
Starting point is 01:22:10 But recently you didn't have anything that you were excited to see And then you're like Checking the tapes All right you check the you guys check the tapes So I'll do the next one Shelf presence Carrying Cross after mania shoot was what he needed Agreed
Starting point is 01:22:25 And I tell you, I've got a change. Coy, you would love Carrying Cross, by the way. So he's a wrestler that big jiu-jitsu guy, but he was following Matt Sarah on Instagram. And Matt reached out to him to get him on the show. And he came in, he flew in to New York in the studio in Long Island and come into the studio to do it. They had a great conversation.
Starting point is 01:22:48 And he's just, this dude, you can find videos on Instagram. He breaks bats with his legs. baseball batts with his legs. But he's a completely such like a, and he's a filmmaker. He's an actor. I've become friendly with him. He's such a good guy and he's a great dude on the mic. He had this promo that he cut afterwards where it's real.
Starting point is 01:23:12 I have sent it to you'll love it. And he goes off on how he's been underused in the WWE. It's, it is, I'm going to send his you. You will love it. It's really, really good. He's great. I hope he gets a push. I figured it out.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Coming to America. When they decided to do that sequel, because especially when you added so many of the original cast and added incredible superstars, that movie was not good. And Craig Brewer, who's great. And it had just done the Dolomite thing. Yeah, Dolomite was so good. That's incredible.
Starting point is 01:23:43 That's incredible. I love Craig Brewer. Mine is either Megalopolis, which I was hoping, you know, would somehow turn out. Oh, is it poops? Oh, dude, so bad. Or The Watchers, which was Eminight Shyamelon's,
Starting point is 01:23:54 daughter's first movie that I was really hoping to be good and it was not that was that was not that was yeah see that one was in the farts for me but it just was like kind of I just wanted more so those are the last two that were like there Andrew Karnes center scores up there with interstellar for me it's great the music in that movie is is a character wait a minute so special yeah yes yes I mean well Ludwig is I think Ludwig and potentially Ruth are going to both win more Oscars after this I think that they'll be nominated I think that you know there's still I would love to see this movie nominated for an Oscar. I don't think there's a world where it happens,
Starting point is 01:24:28 but I do think that there will be things from this movie that will be nominated. The score will definitely get nominated, and obviously we have a lot of movies. We have a lot of movies to watch before the year is out, but there is a high probability that Louie would could pull it off again. Yeah. The sound design will get nominated for this movie. Ruth, the costume design of Ruthie Carter,
Starting point is 01:24:49 who is known for working with Ryan and both the previous Black Panthers and one for both of those just has a hard hill to climb when you have, what, three more superhero movies left. We have Wicked coming up again. She's got a large hill to climb there, but that's also a pretty high probability, too. All right. Let's go next one. You guys are at 39.
Starting point is 01:25:10 I need about 43 more to go. Dancing Dog 60. For me, it's hard to read certain indie comics because they look like they're drawn by 12-year-olds. $7 to $12. I need a decent heart. a book. Is that how much comic books right now? Seven to twelve bucks? They're four to five. Okay. I remember back in the
Starting point is 01:25:28 day, there were 75 cents. When I started buying, there were 75 cents, and then it went up to a dollar, and I was like, okay, we can sustain this, and then... Yeah, I remember, dude, like when I was buying my G.I. Joe Marvel comics, they were like 75 cents. Love it. Still don't know why those haven't been adapted. Maybe because it's the Marvel thing. Yoshimitsu,
Starting point is 01:25:46 last year I saw The Crow, 1995. That's the farts. Oh, no. 1990. 95. 94 was, it was 94, the crow. I thought it was 95.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Let me look. I'm going to get, I'm going to bet it's 94. The Matrix, Lord of the Rings, Alien, Raiders of Lost Ark, draws,
Starting point is 01:26:03 Jurassic Park, with live orchestra in person, that's cool, and a new hope on the big screen. Re releases are awesome. Good,
Starting point is 01:26:11 Coy. I was going to say, he had an incredible run of just living, because that's some of the best movies, in my opinion of all time. Like, those are,
Starting point is 01:26:17 those are some of the greats. Whenever I typed the crow, unfortunately the other one pops up 1994 you're right yeah it was 95 uh Marcus M settle the debate amongst friends top five most popular superheroes of all time right man spider man probably Wolverine at this point Superman uh you would put you would put wolverine over Superman right now and yeah not in order I didn't put them in order I'm just list I'm just listing them um and who would I who would be the fifth maybe I guess you could make the art
Starting point is 01:26:50 argument, Wonder Woman, but I don't know. Coy, what do you think? Definitely Batman, Superman, Superman. Wolverine is definitely four. I'm trying to think of like if the X-Men as an entity would be five or Hulk. Hulk? Hulk, maybe.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Like before the 90s, Hulk was like. Hulk was huge with fur, you know, and all that stuff too, especially, yeah, it was. Before this wave, I would say Hulk, but now with this wave, Deadpool's definitely up there. I think with this wave, now you maybe throw in Ironman honestly just because of the impression that Robert Dunny Jr.
Starting point is 01:27:24 It was a thousand percent was not before this happened. I don't say Wonder Woman or Iron Man is a modern five. Yes. Good call. Winston, what do you think about Jacks trade up for Hunter? Great player, but so much to give up for a new GM head coach. Are you happy with the Cowboys and the Giants? Yes.
Starting point is 01:27:46 So the Jacks training up for Hunter, I think that's a, that's a big move because you're trying to focus on the fact that you don't think Trevor Lawrence is very good and you gave him all that money. So you go and get this star player that you could potentially genuinely play two ways, will bring good stuff. Travis Hunter was happy as hell. You don't have to live in Cleveland and you can go live in Florida. I'm happy with what the Cowboys did.
Starting point is 01:28:09 We just lost Zach Martin, so replacing our guard is huge. Good on the Giants for both of their picks. I thought they were good picks. I'm just shocked at the store. I think Jackson Darts can be any good. I honestly think he will be. I think he will be. I'm just shocked that Shador genuinely fell to the first round.
Starting point is 01:28:26 I cannot believe that that happened, but we'll see. We'll see. That works out. Eric Kirby, after seeing Falcon, just stay by and watch Abby Kay. Oh, oh, I wish a certain redhead was in that world so you could, yeah, there was too much of it going on in there. Go, pal, dog day afternoon is, I had to give spoilers in that thing, man. Dog Day afternoon is great.
Starting point is 01:28:50 And Justice For All is not enough. People know besides this whole place that or yeah. You're at all to this whole place. Yeah. And I'll tell you, send of a woman, that whole scene with him at the end, doing the courtroom scene is just the best.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Jake, without spoiling anything, are there any writing moments in season two of and or that match Luthan's monologue or Andy Circus is one way out of speech? Yes. Yes, 100%. There's there is an episode of this show that everyone will be discussing.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Everyone will be talking about. Yeah, for sure. It's, it's, it's, there's few, quite a few of them, but there's one in particular that everyone's going to be talking about. Joey Petrus, what was your favorite superhero video game as a kid? I love the Maximum Carnage Spider-Man game from that. I was really good. Love that game, dude. You got one?
Starting point is 01:29:44 I mean, that one is probably my favorite of all time. I love the X-Men fighting games on arcade. like the smash arcade like those like marvel versus capcom yeah yeah marvell was capcom was great um hmm i mean i i had a soft spot for the batman forever video game that was the on sega genesis that was fun but i think i think probably if if it's specifically as a kid then i i guess that's probably what i would lean to but if you're just talking maybe ever it's a tie between the arkham series and the spider-man series it just came out for PlayStation the last, you know, a couple of years.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Spider-Man 1 is one of my favorite Spider-Man stories ever in any medium. Yeah. There was a Superman game. I think it was, I don't know if it was Nintendo or is it. In-64. Superman 64 is one of the worst video games of all time. Let's see, Superman. The Wolverine side scroller on Genesis was also dope.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Oh, dude, Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Holy crap. What am I doing? Those games are fantastic, as were the X-Men Legends games. What's wrong with me? Let me see, I'm trying. I know it was, let me see. I'm trying to think what game it was.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Oh, did you ever play the Spider-Man Dimensions game and then Spider-Man? Oh, dude, those were great. Oh, my God. And the one with time, it was like modern-day Spidey and then 2099, which then led to dimensions. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Yeah, and the Spider-Man PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 games are great, too. Here's the next one. Ethan Ingram, it plays when Matt says he needs an army. It's the MCU-S-U-Pity theme. It blends into, oh, okay, this is for when, that's what I thought it might be. It's the MQ's Spidey theme, and it blends into the Daredevil theme. The director's composer confirmed it.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Interesting. That's a big implication. Huge implication, but like, especially when Sony is not too keen and posting these things together. So that's interesting. I go back and listen to that. Mike Joyce, Winston, do you feel bad for Shador? I do. I do.
Starting point is 01:31:40 He'll be fine because I think on the one hand, you have the idea of obviously who his father is. and like he's not hurting for money there's nothing like that but i do feel bad in the sense that it feels like there was this campaign to knock him down a peg and i really hate that because all the kid is is confident in himself that's it there's never been a time where he said he was better than anybody or anything else like that he's just like if you want to win you you pick me because i will lead you to like that's the kind of confidence you want out of the leader of your team so i i hate what they're doing to him uh miriam support for all you love of jens thank you Mirjam. Appreciate that. The next one here, and Mirjam follows it up and says,
Starting point is 01:32:17 love The Last of Us and so far. So I just, yeah, did you watch, I know you watched episode two, Corey. Have you seen three yet? Yeah, yeah. Of us? Okay. Dude, the Last of Us. Jesus Christ. No. I just watched episode three, put that, uh, that episode will be out on Sunday, obviously, too, but because all I'll say is, not spoiling anything too, is because everyone's going to tune and going, well, what do you do? What do you do now? Yeah. Uh, dancing dog 60, follow-up. I'm thinking as to why people will root for a movie to fail.
Starting point is 01:32:45 A certain fandom wanted Barbie to fail. Why? Why does it make their lives better? Because the internet is a place to just fart into a jar and hope everybody smells it. Just crappy, crappy people. Just, that's, because people don't want people to be happy and be fun and the old
Starting point is 01:33:01 adage of misery loves company. So you have the grifters on the one hand that want to make money off of people's misery because they know they can make a buck. And the other half is like, well, if I'm upset, I want you to be upset. Yeah. I'm 10 days clean. I'm only reading and responding to the comments that I get since. I haven't read anything in 10 days and I'm lighter.
Starting point is 01:33:18 I told you. I told you. Amir, do you guys watch the new season of Black Mirror? No, but I've heard nothing but great things. It is fantastic. I've heard it.
Starting point is 01:33:26 It is so good. There's a, there's a spiritual sequel to San Juaniparro. The opening episode will make you want to strangle people because we were in late state capitalism at this point and like talk about commodifying life. It's it's so, so good, man. Okay, I want to check it out. Jake, back in 2013 while playing the OG Last of Us and two years removed from Force
Starting point is 01:33:48 Awakens, never thought we'd be here watching Last of Us and Andor in the Weekly. And I'm glad we are. It is, we're in a good spot for TV right now. And I'm telling you, like even those people who just want the Pew Pugh for Andor, and even those people should be satisfied with everything, the way this whole thing wraps up. anybody who says it's not Star Wars by the end of this is flat out wrong it's wrong he's wrong by the time you get to the end of this is wrong
Starting point is 01:34:16 it's great last of us so far has me has me locked in uh dancing dogs no shame losing to roxy she's a force of nature hey it's not over yet i'm catholic guys i need crystal that crystal come back girl 49 I'm Superman. Superman is number one, Spider-Man is number two, Batman is number three, Wolverine.
Starting point is 01:34:41 If you're talking all-time, it's hard to make an argument against that all-time. You could argue Batman. You could argue Batman and Superman at the one-and-two spot. I would argue it's either Batman or Spider-Man and then Superman,
Starting point is 01:34:55 like almost Batman and Spider-Man. There's no world at all-time. As far as just like straight popular, yes. Spider-Man, Spider-Man a long time ago just really kind of climbed his way into that. It was the 60s, wasn't he? I went against it in the 60s, and then he had TV shows, he had movies, but I still think Superman, he ran the 40s, 50s, and most of the 60s, and then was still popular in the 80s,
Starting point is 01:35:23 got a huge pop in the 90s, the death and return of Superman, or the death of Superman is still the highest-selling comic, I think. Superstarred the comic book movies. And I would, and X-Men as an Indian, entity was bigger in the 90s than Wolverine. I could see the argument against Batman. There's no world I would ever concede to Spider-Man or Superman all-time. Recently, sure, all-time, no way.
Starting point is 01:35:44 But as far as one and two, hard for me to argue Batman. Batman, Superman, you can make an argument for both, and it'd be hard to pick a winner. All right, next one, after that. Ryan S. Did you see the trailer for the pee-wee dock on May 23rd? looks great. Any thoughts on Peewey and Paul Rubens? He talked about another guy who just was all, I mean, 80s, everywhere.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Banana sandwich? Arr. Yeah, it was everywhere. And that movie was him and Tim Burton. I didn't hear, I know that the doc was coming out, but I didn't see the trailer. You guys? No, I haven't seen anything about it. I saw, I knew that there was one. I just didn't have seen it. Connor Mulles. Cork Ian Wilson. There you go. Dancing Dog 60. Teenage Mutual Ninja Tritters on the NES. I always say, fuck the world. Michael Merkel.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Coy, UFC, just announced to Prairie versus Holloway 3 in July for Dustin's retirement fight. Thoughts? What other fights are you looking forward to? We're trying to get Aspinall on Sarah's show. Oh, dude, that'd be awesome. I'm going to give it. I think Justin might get it.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Justin's strong, man. Holloway's incredible. Holloway is one of my favorite fighters, like blessed, but I do think Justin, like, I think he might go out on top. I think it's a good retirement fight. I still like Chandler, even though he's like, you know, five lost streaks in. I still think he's one of the best.
Starting point is 01:37:11 He's one of the most exciting fighters even when he loses because that dude goes in and just ends up burger. I'd love to see Gayche come back in a real way. Yeah, those are like, and Hooker's been fighting great. Chris, do you have anybody? For me, for this fight, I don't know enough about the card of what's going on with it for this one but i'm just like i have been getting watched like as i mentioned with aspinall because i've been watching more of this stuff and wondering if he's ever going to wind up fight in jones um and i was just like i told matt i was like you got to reach if i asked him i how's your
Starting point is 01:37:44 relationship with him so you got to reach out try to get him on the show because he just had boss rooting on the show which was great that was a great interview any jones fight or any izzie fight i'm always there for and if connor you know isn't president or whatever he's trying to do uh he's got make sure you don't go to jail. Marcus M. The 2017 Power Rangers movie cast was great with a movie bomb and we never got another one. 100%. It's true. Great example. So just really quick. Sorry, I hyper-focused like an asshole.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Just going back to like just popular. I get that there's the idea of what pops in people's heads and whatnot, but even just looking at total amount that the media has brought in for those properties, Spider-Man is sitting at 26.8 billion and Superman is sitting around $7 billion. And are you talking about inflation? Are you talking about overall? You throw inflation too, but yeah, they're looking at merchandise sales, box office, home video, video games, all that stuff. Right, but put inflation from the 1930s and see what that is.
Starting point is 01:38:47 You can't compare 1930s a dollar to 2002's dollar. I mean, absolutely. I understand that. So I'm sure. Look at that before you go into it. But it's just, he just, Superman has more years on him. That for me, the money is not going to win that argument because of inflation. But Mr. Dave, six years since endgame, crazy.
Starting point is 01:39:09 God. I looked at my Facebook memories this morning. It was seven years since I hosted Infinity War Red Carpet. And it blew my mind. Like, it's so insane. All right. A couple left guys. We're coming to the end here.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Connor Mollah's been struggling. A friend of mine took us, oh, man. I'm so sorry, God. I'm sorry, man. Very, very, very, very. Send in healing energy your way. I'm so sorry. I'm very sorry to hear that.
Starting point is 01:39:31 And again, as we always say, it's like, you know, yeah, man, mental health is no, it's just something we have to be aware of and trying to talk to people. It's really, really important because, and this is for everybody. So I always notice, too, it's like you just got to, I wish, they, Winston does, is very good at this, to be honest. He's always checking, how you doing? How's everything going in your life? How's anything?
Starting point is 01:39:53 Like, always, always ask questions, man. Always ask questions. Not everybody's going to tell you everything, but always has questions. and I'm so sorry that you went through that, Connor. I'm very, very sorry and love and prayers to your family. Carlton Rutter, London calling. Christian, I won't be able to make the Q&A later today. So just checking now, I just saw The Accountant 2, fantastic movie,
Starting point is 01:40:13 Q&A, Ging Number 3. Well, I got news for you. I'm not going to make the Q&A later today either. A version of me, Will, the virtual will. I'm going to do a bunch of questions that kind of came in, and I'm going to record that, and PLD will be handling today. my daughter has her first softball game today, so I'll be going to them.
Starting point is 01:40:31 And this is the last one for now, for now, Dancing Dogs, 60. What was the last movie you walked out on? Actually, there's two more left. Last one I walked out on? I don't know if I've walked out in a movie in a long time. In a long time. Ellis and I used to pick, we were both,
Starting point is 01:40:50 we had an agreement that we were able to walk out of one movie a year. I can't. Year one is one that we both walked out on together. I'm just stubborn and I paid money and especially because it's A-list at this particular point, I'll just take a nap. If I'm really, if I'm really feeling that type of way, I'll go to sleep. Yeah, I don't remember walking out. It's been a long time.
Starting point is 01:41:10 A long time, yeah. Okay, let's see. Abernathy, Rob. Battlebeast, number one. The things from a different world. This, we had to figure out last time. Oh, things from another world. Okay, got it.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Yeah, yeah. Is it good? I don't. Okay. I'll tell you the one thing that I've been that I've been watching and just randomly. I know you guys aren't super into anime and manga, but man, solo leveling, holy crap. Especially if either of you has any sort of love for like video games or RPGs and stuff, that anime is fucking fantastic. I can't speak higher on that.
Starting point is 01:41:50 It is so good. Dancing Dog 60, man, you were right about Trader Joe's Pizza. I'm telling you it's a hidden gem. It is. It's pretty good. It's the, the actual boxes that you put in the oven, like the big pizzas.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Yeah, and you do it in the oven out of the microwave. Incredible. Yeah. You guys are in the oven. I can't believe how good it is. It's like, it should,
Starting point is 01:42:07 it's way better than like dominoes. And you're on the East Coast where pizza's good. Like, there's no excuse for West Coasters. No. I don't really, like I said, we have one like sitting in the freezer.
Starting point is 01:42:16 We don't really, it's not, it's not our go-to, but someone asked the other day, what's a good frozen pizza? Trader Joe's pizza is great. Not even a sponsor. Abernathy Rock, will you be my hero baby?
Starting point is 01:42:28 What's that from? Do we know? Isn't that a song when you kiss away the pain? I can be your hero baby. Enrique Iglesias. Oh, is that way? Can I kiss away your pain? Connor Mollens and everything you do.
Starting point is 01:42:41 You're all amazing. Again, Connor. Thank you, Connor. Just again, sending love to you, man. And this is the last one for now. Oh, right. Huh? The Battle Beast is, I was like, why do I know that character?
Starting point is 01:42:54 Battle Beast is that like lion-like creature and invincible. I didn't know they were doing a spin-off. That's great. Well, there you go. Okay. So right now, 58 questions, and we are going to give a sign off.
Starting point is 01:43:08 This has happened before it happened yesterday. Look, see, this is what happens. Abernathy also follows it up. It says, I'll buy you a copy and pay shipping. Damn.
Starting point is 01:43:16 There you go. I mean, I'm not going to know it. There's you. Damn. But, so what we do is, yesterday same thing
Starting point is 01:43:25 Steph and Mike were at I don't know what it was it was like 52 questions or something too and we're about to sign off and I don't know where they they hit 74 so we'll try to do the same thing here and look at this and Connor comes back in on a letter note coy I got my hitman on me
Starting point is 01:43:41 a couple days ago I love it Garth Ennis rules. Hell yeah man omnibuses are a really fun way to read comics especially if you can find them at like a used bookstore or comic store as sales and stuff because then you get so much lore in like one megabre book. I love that. All right. Winston, where can the good people find you?
Starting point is 01:43:59 Give a final plug to your channel, please. Absolutely. You can find me at the Swaggy Blurred on Twitch and on YouTube. Like I was saying, I've got this awesome thing that I'm working on right now, so I will be a little bit dark for the time being had. But until that comes back into full swing, on Tuesdays, you can see me with Roka. Spill the Tequila is a full official show now that'll be running weekly. So definitely check that out. You can obviously see me here. And then again, just follow me on social media.
Starting point is 01:44:25 I'll let you guys know when I'm dropping stuff out, give you a heads up and all that stuff. I'll probably be streaming in some downtime with this big project as well. Boy. Tuesdays, I got my Andor reactions over on my page, dropping individual episodes, Sundays, Last of Us, weekly comic book stuff, the news, the breakdowns, the comics themselves. And then also I've got two shows over at D.C.
Starting point is 01:44:46 I've got one that is the DC Studio Showcase. The episode dropped today with me interviewing Skyler Gassondo, as well as Beck Bennett, who plays Lombard. and a really fun interview with Kat Grant all in this episode. And then what dropped yesterday is my new show, DC High Volume Batman, which is a full one-to-one recreation of comic books as a radio play, and I'm interviewing the talent behind that. And you can find me on Real Rejects,
Starting point is 01:45:07 and you can find me on Koicast, which is my podcast I do every other week that is available on all the places you stream your podcast. And on Monday, I'll be reporting for the Hollywood Reporter for the Thunderbolts. And so I'll be doing the red carpet for them. You can check out all my coverage at THR and some clips on my page. And then I'll be doing a review of Thunderbolts on my page and then a spoiler review that weekend.
Starting point is 01:45:27 And I need sleep. Hey, real quick, I just, one, shout out to three of you that just instantly followed me on Twitch. I have to keep OBS open while I'm running stuff. So I got the notification. Thank you so much on that. And I will also be doing Thunderbolt stuff. That's the one thing for sure that will be out next week on the channel. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 01:45:46 So make sure you follow Winston, follow Koi. Check them out over there. Make sure you're commenting over here. As I said, we're on Spotify, we're on Apple podcast. Every podcast are found. It helps us out tremendously. When you subscribe those, you got to absolutely get Stitch Fix,
Starting point is 01:45:59 telling you that. But the Clips Channel, man, right now, go to the Clips Channel and subscribe today. You will get all of these clips and more. But one desk, well, look at that. Sean McCabe, Connor, I've lost as many of my battle buddies to the demons as I did during the war. You're not alone.
Starting point is 01:46:17 There are many of us here who will stand beside you. That's very, very kind to you, Sean. And I love when the community supports one another. It's very nice to you say. What a note, what a note of positivity to end on. Again, thank you to Sean for that wonderful, wonderful, what a way to do that class act. And thank you to everyone here joining us. Thank you to Coyne Winston for being here.
Starting point is 01:46:39 You guys for a great week. I got some stuff going on tomorrow, obviously. It should have the havoc reaction up. And then on Sunday I'll have Last of Us Up and got a pretty busy week next week. I'm going to be doing the final destination movies with my friend Tina. So you should check that out. as the new one is coming out. I really never seen them before. So that's it. See you guys soon. We'll see you on the flip side.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Bye bye.

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