The Kristian Harloff Show - BLOCKED!! UFO Disclosure Act has been gutted by crooked politicians.

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

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I talk about Wonka for God's sakes. And I'm the one that's covering this more than freaking CNN and Fox. This is silly. And we'll talk about that for sure. And why? Why are we talking about that today? Because the bill, this big bill that would finally give disclosure to the public to see whether or not you believe it or not to go, well, what the hell is it? Well, for some reason, they said, no, no, no, some of this can go through.

We're going to water it down tremendously. So all the stuff that really counts is out. And why? Because Mike Turner is bought and paid for, guys, bought and paid for. We'll talk about the article from like 2010 that David Grush had mentioned that said, this guy is bought and paid for. One of the most corrupt politicians. And yet, he's the one that is blocking this thing.

Why? because someone came to him and said, hey, guess what? We'll give you some money. Block it. All right. Why not? I need some money. I don't care about the aliens.

What do I care? I don't like people. I can tell people anything. Skunk. So we'll talk to him. We're going to bring him in. We're going to bring him in the show. That's not true.

I'm lying in you the same way that he does. But we are going to talk about him. We're talking about how corrupt he is. There's other people that are saying that in 2024, we're still getting disclosure, one way or another. How important is that? to not have the coverage behind it and to do all and and to have it out how important is it to actually have the government to be the ones that are doing it um so yeah i'm i'm i'm fired up my my co-hosts

mark riley and attack peter they're fired up and we're going to talk about it to you guys so once again make sure that you're part of the conversation hit that button right away why why should i do it because it's important i'm turned in the sainfield you have to do it let's figure it out what's in the sky. So Apple Podcasts, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. It is UAP Tuesday. Let's do it.

All right, guys, we are back. It is UAP Tuesday. It's big thing. And I am Christian Harloff and I am joined today by my partner in crime. As always, Mark Yodius Riley. And back with us once again. People love them and I understand why

the one and only attack Peter Peter I'm fired up man fired up You know this one I'm trying to like remain calm and not like get too upset Because this is There's a theme to today's show that I'm sure we'll get to And it's one that bugs me all the time But yeah we'll get into it

Yeah Mark same with you man I mean we've been talking about this for months In that I go back and forth and back and forth I'm like oh maybe maybe we're getting there Maybe this is it and then that part of me that seems to be true Unfortunately goes they're gonna find a way to say no they've been and i and i and peter i've been saying this there's a quote that george nap said that is ringing true over and over and over they are better at covering this up and they are better at their job than we are

at ours and he said that and it is so unfortunately true it's heartbreaking so um yeah i mean i don't know riley you know you we went into this thing last week going it looks like it's going to get blocked that seemed like it was going to happen and then obviously it did there was Yeah. Chumor is up there trying his best, but there's, there's corruption. There's corruption all around us. Yeah, he said bought and paid for. That's a, that's, this is, this is ridiculous.

We, we, I heard it on my way, uh, home from the, from Thanksgiving, listening to the, the, the grush interview on Joe Rogan. Yeah. And the mics he brought up. I was just like, the two mics. I'm like, uh-oh. This ain't, this ain't good. And sure enough.

Sure enough. That was the first part. It was ridiculous. It was the first part in the Lowe. elevator for sure. Yeah. He said it. You're like, wait, what?

Because at that point, when he was on Rogan, when he was, I was like, oh, this thing's passing through. and then when he said that, the second he said that, I'm like, oh, no, because he was setting us up. But Peter, you know, we'll get into like the details of the article. But before we even do, like last week kind of going, we didn't get a chance to talk to you last week. But did you feel the same way that we did?

Like, this isn't going to happen. I mean, look, I got to be honest. It's easy to say now, but I think I would have been incredible. incredibly shocked if things worked out the way they are supposed to work out. We're like the will of the people is represented in the, uh, this our Democratic Republic and they actually, that doesn't happen for anything.

So why would it happen for this? Um, I'm not as disappointed because I, that's my expectation. The reality is though, is that they clearly are putting this guy Mike Turner out to be, you know, today's,

you know, uh, you know, a, uh, you know, Obviously, to your point, Mike Turner is the guy they draft to take the hits now. So, like, now everybody's going to be focused on how much they can't stand Mike Turner.

And rightfully so, you know, he did the deed. But this is, there's going to be another Mike Turner in a few years. And there's going to be, there's been many in the past. And so what this, to me, to me, what this, the silver lining of all of this. And it feels like it's been the case for the last, you know, five to 10 years. There's a hot button issue that resonates with certain people more than others. others and through their scrutiny of that issue, you start to see the way the machine works. Right.

And that the next time the machine revs up to start acting the way it always does for an issue that maybe you're not paying so closely attention to, you go, there it is again. And so it's a good, it's a good thing in that regard that we all saw it. You couldn't have more credible people come out. You couldn't have bigger platforms. And yet it still works against it. Yeah, because one of the things, though, is that I couldn't agree with you more. There's going to be another Mike Turner because this is the way they know how to play the game.

They go, okay, well, who is the guy that we can say, hey, we'll give you X amount of dollars or something you probably don't give a crap about anyway, right? So we want this blocked up. We've been putting money towards your account for a while anyway. So we're going to give a little bit more money. And here's the money we're going to give you. Whoa, that's a lot of zeros. What do you want me to do? Block it.

And then when people ask you about it, say nothing. He hasn't said anything. he said nothing as far as why they've asked him why are you blocking it nothing and it's like the same question is why are like so if you got nothing a high and so people don't know if you tuned in for the first time you're like what the hell are they talking about there was a bill that was submitted months and months and months ago it was essentially drafted up before david grush even came out and schumer had had put together this whole thing um and then once grush came out that obviously was able to elevate it and just really accelerate it make it make it get pushed more

And that it was a bipartisan thing that everyone was saying that there needs to be disclosure of what you found, whether you found stuff that was crashed ships or you didn't find it. We need to find out exactly what it is and we want to tell the people about it. And it seemed like everyone was on board with that. But then out of nowhere, it seemed like these Mike Turner and a couple of other Republicans with Turner really leading the charge blocked it out of almost in like the 11th hour. Like why? Why? And when you look at the funding behind Mike Turner, he's funded by some of the major corporations that are rumored or, you know, speculation is that they are the ones that are funding these programs, these private companies. And so it stinks to high heaven, this whole thing.

It stinks. It really does. Yeah. What worries me, too, is that there's a, there are future Mike Turner's out there, you know, with the deep pockets of these aerospace. companies and the lobbyists that that they they you said it Christian they throw the zeros at them I worry that we get more bipartisan support in the future wherever it may be and then another guy steps up no no no no no let's just block that over here and just put it over here because money talks yeah that's what that's what's so frustrating about this is that that

bullshit needs to get hell out of here because what we are simply asking for is transparency I don't And it's, it's, Roshette was on, you know, we're going to get there. But again, he says it all the time. We're not talking Martians here.

We are talking about disclosure, transparency. You got it's, if it's China, if it's Russia, if it's, if it's threats against us that come from our earthly own plane. What do you got?

So here is, and this is, as we mentioned, Riley, we mentioned, we mentioned, we're going to talk about Burchett, who was,

to be fair, this interview that we are going to play in a little bit from Bertchette, was from a San, a CNN reporter. So they did ask them. In my opinion, it's like when sometimes when you have celebrities that are promoting like their latest film that no one's really going to see like a smaller film or a book that they think, but they had to, they were in a Star Wars movie or a Marvel movie. You want to talk to them about that, but you're like, hey, they want you to talk about the book.

And you're like, oh, ask him about the UFO stuff. He likes that stuff. So it's what it felt like, but nonetheless, they covered it. But my thing is this, here's what you need to do. everybody who's like writing because it's like oh write a letter to congress write a letter to your senator's what everybody says to do you know what they're doing the ones mike turn he's going like this taking your letter and he's throwing it in the trash uh he they're not reading that stuff what you need to do is write letters to the networks write letters to cnnn right letters to fox right letters to msnbc you don't need to write them to news nation and the hill they're covering all the time and the only reason you're getting kind of any mainstream coverage is from them because

that's what Peter was talking about. You don't have anybody out there with the main. You said everybody's talking about it. We're talking about it. People are watching those things are talking about it. Dude, I had people on that are interested in this stuff knew nothing about what's going on. Don't know.

How do you not? And again, as Riley said, you don't have to believe it. But you have to know, you should know what's going on about it. And when I'm talking to people like, hey,

did you see that stuff that's talking, I was talking to somebody yesterday about it. I can't remember who it was. But I was like, you know, oh, yeah, I'm fascinated with the UFO stuff. I said there was some stuff going on, right? A couple months ago.

A couple months ago, always is there still stuff going on with it? I'm like, yes, yes, there's this whole thing from the Senate majority leader put in a bill to try to get full disclosure. And no one knows about it. It's ridiculous. That's the thing. He's up there talking about this, talking about UAPs, talking about like something that could just absolutely earth-shattering news. No one covered our,

Our Democratic senator, like majority leader. It's crazy. It's crazy about election interference or, you know, the Trump or Biden or God forbid, Hunter Biden. It's all over the news. But with this kind of stuff, I mean, it's just like, you know, heads in the sand. Don't don't look around. And the mainstream media is absolutely at fault here.

They are absolutely just ridiculous that they don't cover this. stuff. And I feel like it's that stigma that follows us around everywhere. You know, they don't, they don't believe people want to know. Yeah, I know. I know. All right. So look, I'm going to, I'm going to read the first article here. So let me read this article and then we'll, you know, we mentioned the Burchett thing. So let's just start with that. I'll put the Burchett article or interview rather up and here we go. All right. So here's the clip this is from cnn and it is inside politics sunday and they did ask burchat about it it's it's short i'll be it but here's here's the the audio from burchet i just want disclosure since

nineteen forty seven the federal government said they don't exist but now we know they're spending millions on millions of dollars of research in something that they claim doesn't exist i'm not talking about little green men or fine saucers i just want disclosure and i think the american public deserves that if we're putting our hard-earned dollars in Why do you think they're blocking you? I think it's a cover-up. I think there's something else going on. I think there's technology there and other things that our industrial war complex is profiting from.

Now, over to the Senate, the majority leader, Chuck Schumer and Republican Mike Rounds also pushing for more disclosure. But this year's defense bill does not go as far. While the bill would require the government to disclose the signings to the National Archives, eventually some of those becoming public, it does give federal agencies and agencies, the president's significant latitude to keep such sightings classified. Why? The congressional source says it was House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Turner, who resisted the push for greater disclosure. His office did not respond to our request for comment. And the Pentagon, meanwhile, declined to comment. So the mystery continues.

All right. So this is what I will say. First of all, kudos to CNN for actually covering the actual story itself. Because as much as every week we crap on the networks and even the one that the report that they did on meet the press was kind of like, oh, maybe they're out there. Maybe they're not. The same stuff that we've seen like forever, that kind of garbage. This, even though he had a little smirk at the end of it, like maybe they said, hey, just cover this thing. Who knows?

I don't know. Maybe he's very interested in it. I can't speak on the man, but I can say that he covered the actual story that we're talking about finally on a bigger platform. And as Riley said, we didn't get it on, on, we didn't record it, but it's basically, this is everything we're talking about in a nutshell. This is everything. This is, this is Mike Turner.

And then throwing in what we didn't is the fact that the guy is the he's he's put in charge of the intelligence. He's part of the head of the intelligence, you know, that portion of it to where they're going to report to him. They're going to talk to him. And he's talking to them all the time. So of course he's going to be the one. So the answer is as far as why, because that's why they want to. And Burchett said it. They want to cover it up.

They don't want. There's some kind of tech, whatever it might be. So Peter, you know, you hear that interview with Burchett. You hear that follow up at CNN. And what do you think after seeing that? I actually feel a little bit of sympathy for Berchicks. I've really found him to be a humanizing element to the story as it's gone on. And he is, you know, obviously it's probably have a lot of different views politically and all that.

But he does give me that Mr. Smith goes to Washington vibe when I see him speak. And I feel like this is the kind of thing you hope the. government is people who agree and disagree with you but are honestly representing big issues big important unifying issues you know and uh you know going back to what i said in the beginning it's like even though it's a bummer that this is how this chapter ended i think the fact that like the day after uh and not to jump to shark on uh anything here or jump ahead i should say uh the day after we knew that this was going to get killed the cia secret office got revealed makes you realize how this is going to continue. Like, we're going to have to fight on all fronts for disclosure from everybody

from a lowly level podcaster to people in government. And then when there are victories, there are victories and when there are defeats, there are defeats. But in reality, they have to work really hard, really, really hard to keep a lie going, whereas we just have to kind of keep pushing to see, like, you know, doing what we normally do. And then truth is going to leak out from one place to the next people like David Grush, people like Braver and Ryan Graves and all that. People who are working really hard are going to inspire the next person who is like, I'm going to come out and say what I know.

I'm going to come out and say what I know. And right before we jumped on the stream, I'm pretty sure I heard that Grush has a big interview coming out this week, right, tomorrow. Actually, today. Today, okay. Nice. I just think that that's the big takeaway, Christian, is that like it's the temptation in my being is to like go,

all right well we'll see what happens in five years but the reality is even if i feel like that this thing is gone the trains left the station this has now reached meme territory where it's just going to be in the zeit guys now it's just yeah right right i do agree with that in a way like because i i think that there is that level of oh well here they blocked it so it's over now and i even saw somebody last week on our episode was like all right guys looks like uh you know got blocked it's over now so find something else now you do tell them steve dave you got us yeah we're going to review wonka now yeah exactly everything else seems so silly that's the mentality right the mentality as well that blocks you're going to do it so move on

youtube yeah yeah yeah no yeah no take a shaker you said it the train has left the station now what's dangerous to me is the the fact that these leaks can happen without the transparency people are are so they're like look we got to to get this out here. And that can really put in jeopardy some of the stuff that we need to, like certain things that should be kept secret for now, certain people that are out there. You know, Grush even said it in Rogan's interview. If he says certain things, you know, you can have Russia or China saying, wait a minute, you know, we could do this, we could do that. So a leak comes out, you know, it might be, it not, it might not hit the mainstream media or,

you know, it'll hit here, of course. But who else is listening out? Right. Who else is wondering what's going on and has their own? programs and I'm talking about, you know, Russia or China or fill in the blank that want this technology, this reverse engineering, whatever it may be. It rings true to me when Grush says, hey, I'm not going to tell like Rogan asks how many of them are out there. He's like, I can't say that because if I say seven and then Russia and China spies go, wait a minute, we only had, we had five. We got to now send more people out here. Same deal can happen. We have a leak that maybe can come out from a from a source or another whistleblower or whatever.

whatever that is not sanctioned by the U.S. government, that it's not part of this committee that Schumer wanted to create, that that can be detrimental to our national security because that's a big part of it. And going back to what Bershett said, I think that part of this, this narrative needs to change that it's not, we're not talking about little green men. We are talking about things that can harm us, actual things that could, like, what is out there? What is like Graves talking about firsthand account of his buddy saying this thing came within 30 feet of us? You know what I mean? And then there's reports out there that, you know, these things have actually hit our own people.

You know, and that's what's scary. It's not, and I'm not talking Martians. So change that narrative, you know? Yeah. And the other side of it. It's something else to talk about. Yeah. And not only is it things that could be a threat that we should be aware of, but it's also.

technology that could greatly advance society and help people and be an equalizing force to, you know, in third world countries, imagining being able to. Peter, it's knowledge. That's it. Someone, someone, it's a meme now on the internet somewhere where it's like you can't classify like reality, right? So like, right. If the reality is, there is technology that could get good services, medicine, food, water from

point A to point B in split, you know, fractions of a time that we're doing it now. and we're withholding it that's fucked up someone's talked about the nuclear you know the manhattan project yeah we don't we all know that there's a nuclear nuclear technology we use it for power and we use it for weapons does it mean that we should all know how to make nuclear bombs here at home no so but there's that nuance that it seems to be lacking from our representatives and this turner character you know the last time i heard him speak on on you know publicly in the news it was him kind of like laughingly, dismissively, you know, condescendingly saying like all these fellows here talking about UAP, none of them have come to my office to talk about it.

And now everyone's reaching out to him for comment after killing this bill. And he's, you can't get a hold of. He's the perfect example of the same stuff that happened in the 40s and the 50s. He's the guy, as you mentioned before, he's the guy right now that they used to say, say this. That's why he's in his position. He's a new paper lining at the. bottom of the bird cage.

Have you ever heard that metaphor before? But someone once described. Perfect. Presidential politics to me as every four years, we elect someone to be the newspaper liner at the bottom of the bird cage. And then we get upset. Yeah. And then you get upset at the newspaper for being covered in feces, but no one looks at the

bird. And so after Turner, there'll be someone else equally as unsavory. And then we'll never look at what's the real reason. The problem is we can't see the bird. Right. That's the problem. The bird's hiding. The bird's invisible.

So all we can see is the newspaper being crapped on. And the problem is that you talk about Burchett. And yeah, there's a lot of reasons why Bertchette's to, every time he talks now, he seems defeated. He didn't seem like that kind of his boom bah, like, dog, nodded. We're going to find out what it is. Now he just seems like people just keep kicking him in the balls every time he opens the door. And you can hear when you listen to Grush, Turner is one of the guys that, trying to get him boosted out of his seat.

Why is that? Why do they want to get, so what I would tell you is Tennessee, right? Is that where he's the, yeah. So what I would tell you is that if you're in Tennessee and you care about this stuff, you know, and look,

and it's the politics of it all too, but I would say that he's probably the guy you want to vote for if you want this kind of stuff out there because, uh, yeah, Turner's trying to get rid of them for a reason. And the same way Peter said, you know,

oh no, they never came and talked to me. I'm sure Bichette did. I'm sure Bichette did. And for some rate, he's in your party. And now you want to, why in the world? You never see that. Why is another Republican trying to get this guy out of his

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All right. Check this out. This is from 2010, guys. 2010, 13 years ago. The 26. members listed in the 2010 most corrupt members of Congress. I love that you're doing this.

Of course. Number one, Marsha Blackburn from Tennessee. Roy. What's that? Whoops. No, nothing. It's just, yeah, that makes sense.

That tries. Vern Buchanan, Kevin, blah, blah, blah, blah. Where is he, though? But number 17, guys. Number 17, Mike Turner. And he's still in there.

He's still in there. 13 years later, most corrupt members of Congress. He's number 17, guys. Yeah, it makes me think that the ones that aren't in Congress anymore weren't corrupt enough. Yeah, right. But here's the crazy thing about it. He's number 17 on that list 13 years ago.

And he's making decisions like this. Yeah, it's, thanks. If you're on a list, you're out. You're out. You cannot make decisions on this. If you're on this big list, well, it's a political thing. 13 years ago, 13, 13. years ago he's on the list even if you know whatever for the circus right yeah

before the stuff that like is really like sometimes you can kind of look at politics and like what's going on with McCarthy you know for for you know allowing the government to stay open and you know certain people in his caucus there's like nope get out of here you know and so it the circus is happening right now you can maybe read something like that and go oh was this article in 2023 no 2010 right two thousand and We're talking about 13 years ago and this guy is listed as one of the most corrupt that stinks to high heaven.

Stinks. And Grush said it as much on Rogan's show and he's like he was listed there and there's and it just it tracks. It tracks. Like if you're going to say, okay, well, what's this guy's record been? Well, in 2010 he was awarded. Oh, no, no, no, no. He was actually listed as one of the most corrupt members of Congress.

And he's, and you know what that did? That was his resume. That was his resume to get. get in. That's his way of saying, I'm here. I'm here. I'm ready to be used. What do you want me to do? Well, yeah. So you know that you know, you know, all your colleagues. Yeah, you know all your colleagues that came in and told you about that stuff. Well, we want you to go on to say that nobody came to you. Oh, you know, and then the other thing when you know, this dude, your time is now. What, what's up? Well, this bill, it can't go

through. Well, I could get, you can get money in your account. Okay, good. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, yeah. And of course, he's a, he's a crook. Someone, I forgot who it was, said that if all of our representatives had to wear NASCAR uniforms that had all the donors branded on them, that it would be a lot harder to take them seriously when they're standing on a stump earnestly saying this, that, and the other. You know, opensecrets.org is a website where they show some of the campaign donorship. And I just. Can you send that to me? Send that to me right now.

Send it to me right now. I'm going to read what this says here. But this is again, 2010. Mike Turner's opponent is calling for an investigation of him after a public interest group on Wednesday named Turner on its list of most corrupt lawmakers, citing a 300,000 no-bid contract awarded by the Dayton Develop Coalition for years ago, four years ago to a company headed by Turner's wife. The people of the third congressional district deserve ethical leadership moving forward, said Joe Roberts, a catering Democrat who's trying to unseat Turner.

Robert said the House Ethics Committee and Department of Justice should investigate the allegations. That Turner, which the group accuses of soliciting gifts and enriching himself, family or friends. Yada, yada, yada. It goes around for a while, but he's been around since 2002, Turner. So if you want to check out that article, please do so. All right, here we go. So this is what Peter just sent me. And this is Mike Turner.

This is his campaign committee fundraising. So what are we seeing here, Peter? So essentially the website is to track money in politics, right? And so you can look up, I think, everybody and where their money comes from. But right there, top industries, right, 2023 to 2024, you can see the top two are miscellaneous defense, right? And defense aerospace for about equal amounts for their campaign race. And so, like, again, it's like if you take those two out of the picture there, he's got a lot less money to run in his local races. And I think that's how this whole system works, you know, and it's like you make your, like you said, Christian, you make yourself known, I'm one of the guys that you can buy and they buy you.

And then you go and you carry that torch. And it's almost unfair to single them out because it just seems like it's part and parcel for how this stuff works. But it's just when things like this happen, it's important for everybody to go right to this and know so that you can like just dismiss this nonsense. When they came after Grush for like three seconds, all they had was like, oh, he's upset because he went to freaking war, you know, and he came back. And then you just, anybody who knows this stuff goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that's the thing you throw at us. Now we can get to the real conversation. Yeah. And they couldn't discredit him.

In the same way that you go, well, why isn't Mike Turner talking about this at all? It's the same way that, well, Grush is saying everything that he says story hasn't changed. And that's actually, the next thing I do want to play is this thing with Ross, Ross Colhart, from News Nation, because as Peter mentioned, that I believe it's today, that Grush is going to have a second interview, and they ask him in this interview. This is about about five-minute interview, so I want to play the whole thing. And they ask him about what he thinks Grush is going to say, and the answer is pretty interesting. So here's the interview with Ross Colhart on News Nation. The ongoing fight for UFO transparency from the federal government.

It is a story we've been following for more than a year now. And many who are interested in finding out exactly what the government is. knows were tracking the newest defense bill making its way through Capitol Hill. In it, two important new UFO provisions. One, a 10-person panel that would sort through which UAP records would be immediately disclosed to the public. And the other would have given the government full possession of all recovered, quote, non-human technologies being held privately, like by defense contractors. Both of these have now been stripped from the bill. Senate Majority, leader Chuck Schumer is blaming one party for fighting back against his efforts for more transparency,

House Republicans. For more on this, I'm now joined by Ross Coldheart, News Nation Special correspondent and investigative journalist who spoke exclusively with Pentagon whistleblower David Grush. It's good to see you again, Ross. Thanks for being here. Good to be back. Good evening to you. So, Ross, who were the principal House Republicans and individuals who worked behind the scenes to strip these UFO provisions from the final bill? Unfortunately, it's primarily two congressmen who are very much under the thrall and influence of the defense aerospace lobby. You've got Mike Turner from Ohio who covers the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, and you've also got Mike Rogers from the Huntsville, Alabama area, who of course covers a huge amount of the defense aerospace industry down where he is.

And there were also other Republicans dragged in, such as Mitch McConnell. It's a sad thing. It's a sad event, really, to see what was essentially previously a bipartisan piece of legislation in the Senate that received support from both sides of the Senate being knocked back inside the House for frankly no good reason other than the fact that the defense aerospace industry and certain sections of the Pentagon don't appear to want the public to know what they know. Yeah, why wouldn't they want this information out publicly? Are you saying that it all comes down to lobbying? Unfortunately, that seems to be the issue. I mean, Mike Turner, for example, since in around about the last 20 years, has received nearly $700,000 in donations from defense aerospace companies. And whilst he's not commenting at all about why he's taken the position that he's taken

on this UAP disclosure bill that was put up by China, Chuck Schumer, the Senate Majority Leader, the support, the proposal enjoyed support in the Senate from key Republicans, including Senator Marco Rubio. And it was a cross-party thing. And then all of a sudden in the House, we were all taken by surprise by this decision by certain key congressmen on both the Senate Armed Services Committee, sorry, the House Armed Services Committee and the House Intelligence Committee to essentially roll legislation that had bipartisan and support. And frankly, the only possible interpretation is that they've been got at by the

Defence Aerospace Lobby that don't want the degree of accountability that both the Senate and indeed key people inside the US government were pushing for. And it's a tragedy because, frankly, it begs the question. If there's nothing to hide, why stop this legislation? Why not let it go through to the keeper and prove that there's nothing there? If there's nothing there to hide, why oppose legislation that would have provided disclosure? Certainly. I know that David Grush will be appearing on Elizabeth Vargas reports tomorrow night. Do you have any idea what we can expect from that interview? I think you're going to see a very strong critique of the backroom lobbying that has basically

stopped this legislation from coming into existence. But I think you'll also see an acknowledgement that we have come a long way in the past few years. It used to be a unthinkable to talk about non-human intelligence and non-human technology. And now that's in black and white in legislation that's still before the House. And that's an achievement in itself. I think the simple fact that we are now hearing people talking about NIHI, UFOs, the fact of the possibility of a non-human intelligence being openly discussed in the Congress is a momentously forward. All right. So, I mean, there's a lot there. There's a lot there. Riley, you hear that first and foremost. What, what, what's going through your mind after hearing the interview with Ross? Well, it's just, it just always just goes to the point of transparency. If there's nothing to show, then just tell us, you know, just, just give it up. But it, it just is the same thing. We talk. We're going to talk in circles about this, Christian. They're bought for, they're paid for. They're going to keep doing. doing this and I cannot wait to see what Grush has to say because I think, you know,

a strong, what do you say, a strong rebuttal. He's going to go after Mike. He's going to go after Mike's really hard and he's going to go out really hard the way he did on Rogan. He was. Yes. Everything that I've seen with Brush and it might be also because he, you know, he's, it seemed like he was a fan of Rogan and he seemed like he was getting a little loose there

with him too. But I will say in that interview, he was fired up, man. was the most I'd seen him. I think he's as frustrated too, but in the way that Burchett almost seems like defeated, Grush seems like ready to scrap. And that could be, that could be youth, you know, as he doesn't think he's 40 years old yet. Yeah, and it could also be one person in the fight realizing that their buddy needs someone to carry the, the load for a little bit. You know what I mean? I imagine doing what Burchette's doing is exhausting and thinking about how it could be a threat to his career and family and all these things. It weighs on

you, I imagine. There was something that came out, and I've been trying to find it on the side here, and I can't pull it up suddenly where it was a quote or attributed to Turner saying that that he essentially has to also think of what's in the best interest of Wright Patterson Air Force Base, as if like that's the interest that he represents, not the American people. And it's like, it's getting to the point where it's so laughable and comical that you, you know, it's idocracy. It's like, it's like, it's like, a meme that we always talk about that the the stuff that we take for granted is normal today is so wild compared to where we were a few years ago and the the conversation is just going to

shift and grush is probably just going to go okay well then let's do this we try to do it your way which you know they've all said it by the way we were talking about this on a stream a few weeks ago that there was the controlled disclosure you know idea that like hey if we do this as a collective and we bring together the best minds we could do this in a a way that doesn't upset the order of things, you know, for the good of mankind. And then if we can't do it this way, we risk catastrophic disclosure. Those are the two terms have been shared about. I think that they're going to be like, it's going to be this dance where they go,

if you push back here, we're going to push a little this way and see if we can't meet in the middle somewhere. So that article from 2010 is actually what you're referring to, Peter. It's like, so he in that, here, let me bring this up real quick. So you see here in this article, Mike Turner makes it very clear what his priority is. It's not the American people. After he's called out for being corrupt, he responds. The campaign should be about protecting Wright Patterson here.

Why? That's ridiculous. That is ridiculous. And a point that I wanted to make off your finding that website there, Peter, there is a lot of information out there that you can just go find yourself. Yes. Right? And that is one of the biggest problems we have in our culture, in our society, I think,

is that everybody just takes the news in social media. Like some dude on Twitter said, there's no UFOs. Proof. You know, it's look. If you just start looking, you can start making your own decisions and your own read that. Read what Mike Turner is doing. And what is going into his pocket?

And you can come up with your own kind of idea on what to expect from this guy. You know, and when he's in Cahoots within our new speaker of the house, who is very religious, you know, I worry sometimes that that is getting in the way of this because of the day. They said it. The worldview. Yeah. They said absolutely change. Yeah. Lou Elizondo said it early on.

Like, hey, you know, and Loua Elizondo said it. said it in a way. I remember looking at his face and go, God, I just get where this guy's coming from. He's like, look, the reality is a lot of these people are old school and they think that these things might be demons from the Bibles, yada, yada, yeah. And look, this might be a dickhead response. And it's probably maybe not and maybe not as, as sympathetic as I should be or open minded, some will say. And it's funny and a little bit ironic, I guess, too. But when I see the comments going, the fact that you're dismissing it as demons is crazy. And I go, demons flying spaceships?

Whatever it is. Fine. My point is it. We should all be in the same. We should all have one thing in common. We don't know anything. We don't know. We're here trying to figure out what we don't know.

So like the fact that we would sidebar and go to, I'm pretty sure it's green men. I'm pretty sure it's demons from, you know, like that's so wild instead. We don't know what it is. We don't know what it is. But we know.

there's corruption we know people are bought off to cover things up and we know that other people are trying to say hey we need to know what this is for all these reasons we just i want to jump back to what you said though before about you know i think that grush is somebody though that is kind of handcuffed in a way as we previously mentioned how much he can say because yes there is this movement from a lot of people out i mean germany corbell has tweeted out tons of people who was it uh the daily mail posted that thing out it's like okay If you guys don't want to tell us, then we're going to tell you. And they reveal the program, no one covered it, you know, except like us and other people

covered. I guess like, you know, the News Nation covered it and other people covered it. But it wasn't as big of a story as it should have been. The, this, and Daily Mail doesn't, I believe the report, but it doesn't have like the best reputation, you know. And so when you have the disclosure stuff coming out when it's a bunch of people, because even when we go on Twitter and you look at some of the videos that we still. don't know the one remember the video we covered where it's the the planes the plane is going

and then they have the orbs around it and then it disappears and people go oh is that the Malaysia flight and people still don't know what that is yet because it hasn't fully been debunked well yes it has it hasn't I've looked I thought that it was I thought it was definitely debunks like oh somebody because they they were actually offering a reward out there you don't know if you guys saw this but there's a reward that somebody put together like a hefty amount of hey whoever made this actual video if it is indeed a hoax what pay X amount it was like a hefty sum and no one came forward on it and so the the point I make with that also is doesn't matter if nobody came forward to it or not no one's going to believe it

unless government or someone reports on like what if the daily mail reports and again nothing against daily mail I thought the reporting on that story was was very well done and I believe the story But at the Daily Mail was the paper or the website that reported the Lou El Zondo stuff that Leslie Kane did and New York Times did back in 2018 or whatever that was. It does not get the kind of notice today. But because the New York Times did it, it did. That's what's important. That's what's important. Go ahead, Peter.

No, I was just going to say, I'm sorry. I was just going to say it's almost like there are certain publications or certain organizations that when they something, say something it's almost like a signal to the others like okay we can talk about this now yeah yeah and that's and that's where like you're to your point it's like if you're not in that group it gets out there and that might annoy some people but they're not going to continue echoing in the ecosphere it's just not going to happen so we have another potential you know a conversation here that that was happening so first i want to give a shout out to um paville um meta and i'm and so Pavell's going to probably start working with us a little bit,

and he's he's gotten Bichet on his show. He's a, he's a Mexican reporter. He has a show that he does based in Mexico, and he's, yeah, and he's got a lot of great interviews, and he,

on his channel, and I'll put the link in there, he recently just had on Stephen Bessette. And this isn't from his interview, but Bessette is out there right now. This is Mike, Mike Colangelo, is how he's pronounced it?

you know colangelo chalangelo michael angelo that oh there you go i say it's lower yeah perfect michael angelo anyway well so on his post um he has this thing from stephen beset and he says that we steven beset talks about possible disclosure in january 2024 this kind of echoes what peter was talking about you get people inside of the community they're all saying this type of thing here's what here's what he is saying and this is how um this post is it says stephen besie says that the Schumer Rounds Amendment can be reintroduced after 10 plus firsthand whistleblowers testify in a hearing. It's in parentheses that he is the only one saying this. I enjoy listening to Mr. Bessette, but his timelines are always wrong and sometimes not even based in reality,

so I'm going to believe it when I see it. Bessette also says disclosure is really up to three men, Schumer, Warner, and Marco Rubio. Well, here's the interview clip that I'm going to play real quick. And so ultimately, they won. They gutted the bill. They got rid of the eminent domain. They got rid of the disclosure control program, which included subpoena power, which they were absolutely frightened of. I mean, they scared to death about that. And it got rid of the review panel.

They gutted it. And so what's left is not particularly significant, but it is there. And we do have a fourth bill. Now, here's what's going to happen next. This is very important. The gutting of this bill does not in any way impede the, Senate Intel Committee, shared by Mark O'Rubio and Mark Warner, recall the hearings that there's several dozen witnesses ready to testify. People like Grush or even better, 10, 15, 20 witnesses

are prepared to go in front of the Senate Indel Committee as soon as possible, sit down, take an oath, and over a period of five days, maybe morning, afternoon sessions, tell things every bit as powerful as what Grush said and more. And those hearings will blow the truth embargo wide open. That's where this has always been headed. Once those hearings have been held, then the president, in a passive nonpartisan way, will, after 76 years, be able to step out in the East Room and say to the American people that I've watched these hearings along with you. The testimony is compelling and profound. I've discussed it with my top officials, as well as the Department of Defense, and we have come to a consensus that, yes, we are not alone. We have extraterrestrial or non-human engagement.

We have extraterrestrial or non-human technology, and I'm sure you want to know all about this, and we will start the process of telling you starting Monday morning, because this will probably happen on a Friday. Now, here's what happens after that. Once the president has confirmed the extraterrestrial presence, then they'll just reintroduce the bill as a standalone. And given the fact the world has just been told by the president and probably most of the rest of the world leaders, that we're not alone, we have an extra trust your presence.

That bill will fly through the House and Senate like that, and they'll get all that infrastructure just a little late. Hopefully they won't wait too long because once the president makes that announcement, I assure you, all hell breaks loose. And if they don't have everything in place to properly address the process of disclosure and all of the concerns that the media and the public have, it's going to be chaos. And that would be wrong. And so I'm saying that we're going to get disclosure, hopefully in January.

that bill will be reintroduced and passed, and we will enter the post-disclosure world, and years will go on where we are getting information out of our deepest, most secret facilities, documents, and everything else, up through a very responsible process with review ability, with committee members of Congress and the review board having this exact highest clearance you can have to be able to look and see anything. There will be no project, no document, that they cannot see. They will have full special access, and that will be part of this, and we will go forward in the post-disclosure world. So we haven't lost. We've just been a slight setback, but now the history,

the most important event in human history is now in the hands of three men, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, Intel, Senate Intel Committee, Chairman Mark Warner, and ranking member Marco Rubio. These are the people that have the absolute most authority and ability to call that hearing.

The president can't call it and nobody else can call it. Only them. I want to share his optimism. I want to share his optimism. And clearly, he's crazy. I don't either. I don't think it's crazy. No, no, meaning like his, in other words, to say optimism,

it almost frames it like, gee, I hope, I think objectively speaking, based on what we said a few minutes ago. You know, there's a momentum here, dude. Yeah, I know. But the optimism is this. The optimism is what he said was everything that he put together seems like a plan. Yeah. But the optimism is there's three guys that got to make that decision to make that happen.

Then all of the whistleblowers have to come. Then the president has to go out and make a speech. Then all this stuff has to happen. It's like, I don't know. Process. Yeah. Here's the thing that you want to take it to. the political side of this stuff.

But one thing that, and there's, there's, I brought this up last week to Riley, and I'm curious, Peter, where you stand on it, right? So one of the things, too, because they don't think about the American public, they think about power and I think about seats and they think about all that stuff too. Yeah. So the question is, is, there's two sides of it. On the Democratic side, is Schumer waiting a little bit more and pushing it towards 24, the January 24 leading into it.

So Biden can become the disclosure president. And then holy moly, this guy just revealed the fact that aliens are running around. I'm voting for him, right? Or during the election here, huh? Hmm. Right. Or is it the reason that the blocking is coming also is, why don't we wait a little bit? And then if Trump gets in, he'll be the guy.

So it's like, it's, no, is it the only reason? No. but I'm just saying the conversation will come from both sides on whoever their person is. These people have these delusions of grandeur. You don't go and run for president of United States if you don't have a sense of like, you know, that you're the shit. You know what I mean?

And so I do think there's a part of anybody in that position who wants to be the guy. I know Clinton wanted to be the guy. Obama talks about it as if he was asking about it. So I don't put that out of it, but I also think. But Peter, I'm not talking about it. Peter, I'm not talking about them, the guys. No, I know. The administration.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. What I'm saying is that a president would go along with it because you get that perk that you're historically the president. However, like, you know, the bigger takeaway for me is that if the thing, the steps that he just laid out, in order for those steps to get blocked repeatedly over time, you now have a different problem on your hands, which is that we have hardcore evidence that is hard to deny that you are not in the same political system that you thought you were, that you will be

shut down at every turn, even when there are military officials who are saying, guys, we don't care about margins. We don't want to get shot or crashed into the sky by something we can't, you know, explain. And you start to like, you know, stifle their voices. Now we've got a different problem, right? which is like, you know, real, real, real, you know, selective authoritarianism over people's speech. I do think, though, that my optimism is that it's only going to take one little leak that is undeniable, that now everyone's another.

I'd be like, bring all those guys back when he needs to talk. That's, that to me is the thing. That was right. That's what I was going to say is that. So one thing that has to happen, I think, is that in order for this, as we were talking about before, when it comes to anybody can have this footage. It's got to be this thing that happens that it's just so undeniable that people are asking questions. And it is just this piece of evidence that really goes, okay, we tried to block everything else.

The grainy footage we could block, this we could block, this we could block. The guy saying he heard from a guy who heard from a guy who heard from a guy, we could make that. But this is clear cut. we don't know how to block this. We don't know how to get Mike Turner to say this isn't real. So that's what we need. The question is, is that what the Lou Elizondos of the world, the Jeremy Corbells of the world are saying, is that the kind of stuff is happening? The Logan Paul, not Aaron Paul, footage, is that significant at all, or is it not? I don't know. I don't know. I tell you what we really need, Christian, is we need these aliens to just come down,

hover over the earth and just make themselves known so that nobody can question it. So they just say cut it out. They just say, cut it out. Put like a fun emoji over the ship so that everyone knows they come and jest. You know what I mean? We want to just talk. Yeah.

I don't want any mystery about it to be so that we can, then this becomes like the next thing we have to all be afraid of and like send money to the military for, you know. Hey, dummies. We've been here for thousands of years. Stop planning, stop fighting each other. I know that we're here. Figured around amongst yourselves.

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Okay. So here's the other thing, guys. This is a crazy one that I saw. And I put this one towards the end. I couldn't believe. this. All right. So for this from Robert Powell, the FAA claims they cannot find the 100 plus UAP reports that they gave to the AARO. Dr. Sean Carpatrick stated in late October of this year that the AARO has received over 100 UAP incidents reports from the FAA. I asked the FAA for a copy of those

unclassified reports, and it seems like a reasonable request. After all, the FAA is responsible for civil transportation. They are financed by our tax dollars through Congress. Here is the FAA reply to an FOIA that I made in October. Mr. Powell. This email regards the FAA request that you submitted to the FAA on October 28, 2023. Your request is for a search of the mandatory occurrence revolving, excuse me, reports involving UFO and UAP specific to those reports which we were given, which were given to the AARO. I referred your request to the Department of Division. defense since that agency will have or should have the subject of the 100 plus reports that the FAA were provided to DOD. The FAA has approximately 47,000 employees and multiple offices,

as we do not have a list or index. That can be queried for the purposes of identifying where the subject records which AARO received came from. DoD should have those readily available. I communicated with blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, or you may contact the FOA office. Thank you. So, responds, really? The FAA claims that they don't keep up with their communications with AARO. They claim that the AARO could have contacted any of their 47,000 employees to get this information. Therefore, they don't know what they gave the AARO. It is time that Congress takes the investigation of UAP away from the military and their cohorts. Congress needs to provide funding to academia and the scientific community. Yeah, this is ridiculous. That stinks. Everything stinks,

Christian. I don't like this. It doesn't pass the SIF test. But you know, this is one of those things that's like bureaucracy and just messy, like, you know, and if it needed to be cleared up, it will be cleared up like this. The same way they cleared up San Francisco, all of a sudden for G like this, they would clear up the issues here if they wanted to. Dude, when they said when they, like basically, it's some guy, it's almost like the, the matrix when they're putting out the, not the matrix, uh, John Wick, when they're putting

You know, like the hit on John Wick and there's like all the operators in the thing and they're like, we have an email asking about that. What is it? Oh, send them to the DOD. Yeah. Okay. Go to the DOD. We don't know where those are. It's like, what are you talking about?

What are you talking? You just had the guy, Sean Carpetric goes, we've had a bunch of the reports. Where are the reports? They're open to everybody. Where are they? And this isn't just like a silly, you know, how do you build an IKEA debt? that we forgot we don't know where the instructions are that was a model from years ago what are you talking about this is the this is one of the biggest topics going on right now and you don't have in

your space and you don't have the reports you don't know where of course you know where they are you that's this email that they told you to that's bullshit yeah this is like ground zero for this kind of stuff the f a is like the the first line of everything for us that that uh commercial travel all the they're monitoring the skies for god's sakes this is are going to have that information. It's just, we don't need to say it. We know. We lost them. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sure. You're also, whoever's making that ask, Robert Powell is not, I guess, important enough to be able to just get that information. That's what I come down to. If you've ever been a part of any workplace environment or any kind of corporate structure hierarchy, you know what this is. Like someone says,

oh, yeah, go over there to ask them because they probably have it just to get you out of their face for a minute. By the time you get there, that person's like, what? Can you go ask them to clarify what they meant. And so you go back, by the time you end up getting hurt in the same page, three weeks have gone by it. It's like, and you're exhausted and you forgot what you were asking in the first place. All right. The other thing is this.

Riley and I have talked about this for a while on the show. And a couple of months back, whenever they had the Republican primaries and many ways that Chris Christie shot himself in the foot, one of the ways that he did it was he kind of goofed on the UFOs in the way that people used to in the ways like, I get the UFO question. like he's at he's at carolines um and he backfired in his face and he went up getting a lot of people kind of coming after him then he tried to take it seriously and it didn't work um the what i really respected was the fact they asked r fk about it on the hill and i asked him his opinion on it because

he's running as obviously an independent he's clearly not as caught up he didn't even know david grush's name when he was bringing this stuff up however what he did say was that it was fascinating and that he would disclose everything on day one with stuff that he could on day one to me that's an approach that all these politicians should be taking because it's like okay i don't know enough about it but i want to it's fascinating it's in the news a lot now and he's paying attention to it so peter what what what else did i miss inside of that well that he he he posted something uh i guess on excerpt somewhere he it says remember ufos were the very essence of a a conspiracy theory, quote, the term was practically invented for it.

People who spoke out were ridiculed and their careers destroyed. Our government did that. That's it. So it's just kind of like this ambiguous statement, but also it's probably loaded in the context of his campaign. And what I will say in the context of what you just brought up with Chris Christie, and this is not a political discussion in any sense. It's just that when you have a bunch of these candidates who are all vying for attention

and the majority of them are carrying the water in one direction, it behooves one of the candidates, perhaps the one that's tracking the lowest, to find an angle, to find an inside angle. And you want that to be the avenue of honesty and diplomacy and like, but if at the very least, this is one of those things that if one of them latches onto

and can speak to the angle of these are our military guys talking about this, that we always say we support the armed forces. We support our troops. Here are our troops on Capitol Hill talking to Congress in the way that you want this to work, like in a very official, organized, respectable way. And you're still dismissing on it. What does that say about your respect or lack thereof for the process and the people involved in it? So I do think that whatever you think of RFK and all the candidates, frankly,

it is something to look out for that if one of them needs a Hail Mary pass, it might be this and that's one of those moments that opens everything up. It was very smart for him because he is the highest polling independent candidate since Ross Perrault in 1922. And he's barely even getting a lot of coverage on a lot of the main networks. So by doing that, by going on and doing exactly what you're talking about, Peter, is the fact that he didn't dismiss it. He's clearly not as educated in it because like I said, he didn't know David Grush's name. He didn't know these things. And he might very well someone going, hey, this is a topic we should get into because when you look at

the numbers that this this particular network does for this topic you should talk about it and you should say this this this and that very well might be political but yeah i lean there but he's saying the right things but he's saying the right things but i i do caution because he is running yeah and uh that could be something that he's just saying i agree um because you know he wants to you know he wants to get his polling up or whatever better than christie's saying the the the i got the UFO question yeah and and and he learned fasts you know he Bedge bedfellows, though, right? Like you could say, I don't take anything this guy says seriously because he's just manipulating, you know, the people to vote for him, yada yada.

And he's probably well aware that he has that independent streak of the audience supporting him. Nonetheless, if it comes from him, someone, if he could drop something, if he knows someone who feeds him something and whatever it is, however the gates open, it could come this way. It could come from someone just saying, well, here you go. You're not going to let me into the debate. Here's this. Boom. Well, look, there's a lot that we talked about here today, guys. As I mentioned to you, be part of this conversation. If you're, for the people that keep coming in here every week,

it's because you're curious, like we are. We've always told you, and we, I stamp it down. We're not experts on this thing. We just want questions. We're regular people like you guys, and we just want to know what the hell it is. We are the people that, everybody listening to this, that a lot of these people are fighting for the information to come to, right? Like we I don't know a lot of the names.

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