The Kristian Harloff Show - Can BEETLEJUICE 2 become the highest grossing September film?! Jillian Michaels Interview!

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

Can Beetlejuice Beetlejuice become the biggest Septmeber movei of all time? The hype is real for the movie. Can it happen?! Beau Demayo is charging people 9.99 to get his side of the story on why Disney fired him. Roxy has TV picks and Kristian interviews Jilliam Michaels on today's epiosde of The Kristian Harloff show. #xmen97 #marvel #beetlejuice #beetlejuice2 #controversy #jillianmicahaels #discussion  OUR SPONSORS: AG1: Try AG1 and get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase at http://www.drinkAG1.com/BIGTHING TUSHY: Stay shower-fresh all summer long and join the 2 million butts who already switched to TUSHY! For a limited time, our listeners get 10% off their first bidet order when you use code BIGTHING at checkout. https://hellotushy.com/BIGTHING HIMS: ● Start your free online visit today at http://www.Hims.com/BIGTHING MANDO: Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code [BIGTHING} at http://www.shopmando.com #mandopod http://www.shopmando.com  

Is Beetleju going to be the all-time September leader? Can it beat it? We're going to talk about that and much more on today's show. It's Krishna-Rloff show. Let's do it. Here we go. All right, welcome back, everybody. It is Krishna-Rloff show, and we are not live on this Thursday.

Just yet. We will start going live pretty soon. But joining me on the Thursday, as you always know, is. Roxy Stryer. Roxy. And. Hi. Brett Sherrodune. Hey, look at them graphics.

You like those graphics, don't you? You like them. Roxy, let me ask you a question. How are you feeling about going live? Again, it's me and you. We're going live to people. How are you feeling about that? I feel I'm not going to ever look at any of the live comments.

That's right. Okay, look at that. You came out with that all on your own, and I love that. I love that. Brett, how do you feel about this? I don't ever look at the live comments Because I don't like them But I want to

I had Steph and Mike on today We did a live show And they were not aware of the comments Whatsoever because of this wonderful program They were using They had no idea Of what it was And what was being said

So they were very engaged in the conversation But did you look? Not really, only for like What I do because I have to Because I got to go through the topics So that's why what we've been doing that's been very successful on Mondays is that if people want to get involved with the conversation, they have submitted their questions, and we do the super chats. And then people who were asking, and I want to make sure that I address this, we are no longer ever doing the Schmobot ever again. It's not coming back. Never say never.

No, I will not bring that thing back. It absolutely ruined the show. What if I died and my one wish was that you used my voice as your Schmobot? And if we use the Schmobot, sure. But I would, but I would. I'd tell you, I would say, I would say, hey, listen, if we use it, I'll use your voice, but the chances are slim. Rocks, can you imagine the nasty-ass shit people would put in if your voice was the Shmobile? They make you say, 100%. So bad. 100%.

Yeah. So anyway, point is that I've been, what's been working well with Roke is people just, we get people in the beginning before the show even goes live. They want to put a super chat in the can. And in the end of it, we read all of them out by the time we're done with the last time. It allows us to do everything. So we'll be doing that. We've been doing that so far. We did that today with Steph and Mike.

The only thing, though, Brett, this is the one thing that's going to break some hearts for this particular show. This is the one thing. I might have to switch out Brett and Mike from time to time. It means that Mike and Roxy can do some shows together finally. And it might even, but it's going to be a kind of a switch for a little. So, Roxie. Well, because Mike's schedule is tough on Wednesdays. So in order, what I didn't want to do, because it wouldn't be fair to you, is to ask you again, who you just moved your schedule to get in on Tuesdays and set up.

But it could have done it was like, hey, Roxy, can you move to Wednesdays? And then Mike and Steph could be on Tuesdays. But I was like, no, you know what, it'll be fun to have. Mike and, Mike and Roxy haven't had interactions. So we're going to do back and for Mike. I thought Mike was always on Wednesdays. He is, but he can't, but he can't do two hours. He can't do two hours on Wednesday.

That's, that's the issue. So his issue is that he'll be able to do some Wednesdays. So he'll be kind of back and forth. So the staples, you'll be a staple on Tuesday. Steph will be a staple on Wednesday. And then Brett and Mike will be bouncing back and forth on. Or Mike and I can switch around too. I thought you can't switch.

What did you say? I thought you can't switch. I thought that was the whole point. No, you asked what day and I knew they were Wednesdays. I said Tuesday. I know, but I didn't want to come back again. after I found that out and said, hey. If I know in advance, like once a month, I could do a little switcheroo.

Because if you wanted to, we could just, this show could just be on Wednesdays, and Mike and Steph could be on Tuesdays, if you want to do that. Well, I don't know. What do you guys think is better? I think it's fun of the strategic dynamics. I like having you on Tuesday. I think that you start with, you start with Roka than Roxy, because, you know, you and I've been doing shows for so long, get people like the second day on a, to do it.

And then I think switching it up a bit and having Brett come in on some Tuesdays, and him doing some shows with Steph, him doing some shows with you, you doing some shows with Mike. I think that'll be fun. And you and Mike have a really good dynamic too. So I think that... Yeah, I love being with Mike.

I'm not saying this like I don't want to do with him. I just love being with Brett. Yeah, I know. I like the switcher-roo a little bit that we can do those two days and Thursdays. But my favorite of all of you is Steph. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Right.

Yeah, we can switch that sometimes too. Have you Steph and Rocks? I just don't know what kind of... See, the dynamic between Steph and Roxy, we know is wonderful. That dynamic between Roxy and Mike, wonderful. That dynamic between Steph and Brett, wonderful. I don't know what Mike and Brett is like.

I have no idea. Yeah, that's interesting. What are you guys? Brett, have you ever had a conversation with Mike? He's very loud. He's a loud fella, I noticed. I've been in the studio a lot with Mike.

That's right. I think I could be all right, but I'd probably be quieter than me. That's my problem. That's my problem is I think that with Steph, I think the humor comes out. with Roxy, the humor comes out. I think you just kind of go into a little hole if Mike's around.

So yeah. Yeah, so probably not that one. That would be funny, though. I'm really, because he doesn't say anything. And then... No, I think that you guys, like, Mike can cater to people. I think that it would be interesting. You have to try it at least once.

You got to see what it's like, because that's what you're... Well, we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. And then Thursday, because here's what's going on so far for the channel. As you guys know, Thursdays are a lot of... right now the pre-tapes are. This is the other thing that I'm excited about with when you can do shows,

Roxby, is normally what happens is we pre-tape on Wednesdays, and all the topics that we covered already on, you know, with Mike and Steph is done. So you don't have anything, we don't really have anything besides TV, and we've been just kind of BS, which has been fun, and I will still do that with date stuff and other things too. But, like, I think that, you know, you'll have more fresh topics, because one of the cool things that we talked about,

and we'll kind of discuss it now, my movie reactions start this Friday and we already shot two. How are they going? So far, so good. First one was with Matt Sarah and we did Borderlands. That's going to be a good one to do. And then Sadie and I did one today. We did, yeah, we did, that's right.

We did, what are we doing? We did trap. How'd you get her? What did you do? Trap. With Sadie. Yeah. How was she?

She's great. She's great. She's hilarious, actually. We both were watching together at one point. She was commenting on people's hair. What a fun way to spend more time together. Yeah. And so that was cool to do. And there was a couple different times.

We laughed and it was good. And she doesn't hold back on what she's saying. So it was pretty funny. I can't wait until you have Vivy come do them with you. Yeah, that's probably between five and 10 years from now. Yeah, but that would be so fun. Yeah, I know. But that'll be, I'll give the business to her.

Yeah. After she comes and does a couple reactions of you. Yeah. It's the only reason I'm telling you that I'm able to even, because I thought about this, if I'm doing this, if I'm going to plan to do this for wherever, however longer, I was like, it's amazing how weight ages you. It's amazing. Like, I feel, I feel that I was, and I feel like I, I feel like I looked 10 years older

when I had the 20 pounds on me. Oh, oh, oh, oh, I thought you were talking about right now. I was like, you look awesome. What are you talking about? No, thank you. But I, but I, I was. Stelt. Thank you. You're allowed to say that.

Yes, you're allowed to say that. But I just feel better. And I was walking around the city last night, which was awesome. I would see Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. And I was texting with rocks. I was on the train with you when I was texting you. Yeah, I'm jelly of your Beal Juice, Beal Juice. But I liked our conversation last night, by the way, texting.

We had a bunch of different topics. I know. I had fun texting with you. You know what? Yesterday was a big day for me. Anniversary. Happy anniversary. 20th anniversary of my wedding. And do you know what I did on my night of my wedding anniversary? Are you kidding me, Brett? Why didn't you tell you that?

What did you do? What did you do? Oh, yesterday. He went to Roxie's and fixed her camera. Had a little chat till about 1030 and came home. My wife was sleeping. No, she was exhausted. But why did you do that?

No, my wife came home from work. I said I could do Monday. I could do Wednesday. I could do Thursday. You picked Tuesday. anything. She, the good news, she got a new job. That's amazing. That's great. Ray, it's going to be working from home. Completely remote now. Doesn't have to, going to save us hundreds of dollars in gas.

No, she was tied. We're going to go out on Friday. I just wanted to be known that I offered up so many days and you pick this one. And now I'm starting to wonder whether you wanted to get out of playing the bill for a nice dinner on your anniversary. Not at all. It was a bad night. Kids have soccer. It's like, you know, we have to pick up my daughter because, of course, they can't have soccer at the same place and my you know now that my son drives um they have to be the same time different locations no it was absolutely not a big deal and we actually that morning uh she was going to work she goes hey is it our anniversary i go no it's tomorrow and i go no way it's today

oh so you guys were both you guys are both like locked into it yeah that's that's that is that's not happening in my house tell you that 20 years and also did she say happy birthday and late oh did i say happy birthday happy anniversary yeah and then she said birthday bye she wouldn't be she didn't want to forget the birthday so she just gave it to me yeah that's fine for sure march can't come soon enough well happy happy birthday happy birthday yeah um sure no that's amazing 20 years that's freaking awesome i keep telling my grandparents because they just hit 77 years but like if i found my person tomorrow i wouldn't be married for 77 years even if we left out the rest of our lives together like if i got my person tomorrow and we were together for 20 years I'd feel really good about it yeah I don't know the

medicine's pretty good night you know um yeah I don't know man okay so that'd be 110 that's right we'll move your consciousness around who knows um lots to talk about and we're gonna talk about about a beetle juice today I got an interview with Jillian Michael and that's gonna be and that's a long talk for like 40 minutes we talked about a lot of different things tell her about your weight loss journey I didn't you know what we actually and you know what's strange and this is the one thing and you'll never hear about it probably ever again after this episode. So buckle on in guys. It's the first time

in a long time and maybe the last time I actually started talking politics. Were you guys on the same page or different page? Not I mean it wasn't really about that. About the same page, different page it was more about being able to speak your

mind without being on, labeled on the wrong team. You know, like and she's doing a show on on Bill Maher's network, you know, the way that, that her podcast, which was very popular. I know, because that's my, you know, my friend Ashley. Yeah. She worked for that network.

Yeah, so which, which was very, her podcast was very popular on audio. And then Bill Maher convinced her to do video. And she told me the whole story on how that came to be. And then she talked about how. Her studio is sick. Yeah. And she, well, she told me, she, it was actually a very good conversation. I thought we were supposed to have an hour.

So her and I were just viving and talking for a bit. And it was like, 45 minutes in. And her public was like, oh, and she's like, oh. And she's like, can we. we stay a little longer? It's like, now you've got another call. We talked about UFOs. We talked about, we talked about a bunch of stuff.

So, but yeah, so it's a pretty good conversation. So we'll play that in a little bit. But before we do, let's talk Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Now, we don't have to go into the, you know, the spoiler-free thing. I just want to. Transition, man. You like that? You like what we're doing here now, Brett?

This is a lot. I thought so. I got to give Luke props from Galaxy. helped us help this out but this whole and roxy you know as you were talking about it we needed to look better i needed to look at we're going to do it this way and like look all the your camera looks slick like this is just so funny though because i haven't been i used to be on a show with yellow neon and black oh yeah now it's back it's like blast from the vat well do you know where that came from for us anyway um is that i was using it for my thumbnails i kept using yellow and yellow white and black

combo yellow white and black that's why they're the that's why buzz yeah well that makes sense i was used but i was using it for my thumbnails and they worked and i liked the colors and then we start coming up with logos and we're like yeah that looks good let's do that's the best so what's behind us that keeps moving it's a moving it's just a moving screen if i if i what is it what are the actual here i'll there's a lot i got to do here but i'll do it on oblong rectangle is that what you would call and they're chasing each i don't know how to get bread out of there whether you get bread that's okay i can i get i get you go see get the gist of it perfect so that's oh oh oh the k h is slick too i like the good yeah and it's moving around the whole time so i'm

happy with i'm happy you know it's um it it's looking good so but you want us at the top you don't want us in the middle in the oh you mean like over here i could do that i guess too like you you mean like like this yeah yeah yeah it's not bad let's we'll ask the audience what they think once we once we do it's too many shots but i like to do it's too many shots but i like them seeing like the cooks like a lot of a lot a lot a lot happening behind the scenes here i like now if you keep me up here okay and no christian why i oughta so like right there you guys like that i think that i'm a little but then your cage has got to go over but or you could stay i can do that do lots of things well that's easy i can just do that look at that and then i think that i just have to do this

Make sure it's need to find your center Yeah, we can find it I think that each one is it fits the screen But I can mess around with it a little bit more And but for the most part We can play and there you go But I was talking about Beetlejuice You know, it's the movie is

It's on track to make like $105 million Or something like that opening weekend if not more And then I think it Is like 125 for the weekend I think that's the That is like the record I feel If Beetlejuice has, like, I'm telling you, I went to this screening.

Oh, that specific, this September weekend, you mean? Yeah, September. I think the biggest September weekend ever is it. And I went to this thing last night, and it was a half-screen, half critics, half fans. People were dressed as Lydia Dietz, like in the red dress, in the black dress, Beetlejuice, people were dressed up, like, you know, there was the little head guy and all that stuff. There was sandworms. it was an event for this like press screening.

So this is going to be a big, big movie. It's going to be, and it's only an hour 45, which gives you multiple screenings. There's nothing to say, I think this movie could do it. I think it could beat it. It's not projected to beat it. But I think that the projections, you know, the projections for Deadpool and Wolverine were lower than what it ultimately hit. So, Roxy, is it going to, is it going to break the record? You saw it. I didn't.

So I think a lot of it's going to depend on what the word of mouth is about this and if it's really great. So far from my friends who have seen it, which is a decent amount, they're saying it is solid. Like this, if you love Beetlejuice, you've got to see this. But it's not like nobody's going to walk out and be like, this is better than the original. I think the press is really helping Michael Keaton going out there being like, this is my favorite role of all time. Winona Ryder's been like slaying the press line too and same with Jenna Ortega. So I think they really have done a good job to make us feel like

if you don't see this movie you're missing out, which is always great. This is a bigger movie than it to me, even though I love it. I think that this movie is going to crush because, and I happen to agree with whoever you've been talking to. This is a, my review, my non-spoiler review, and my out of the theater reaction was, this is a good movie. I wanted it to be great,

but it's a good movie. Like, you always want, if you love a movie like this, it's great. And the other thing I said in my non-spoiler was, like, does it feel like it's part of the Beetlejuice world? Does it feel or does it just feel like,

you know, they just want to try to milk the franchise? And it does feel like a part of the world. It absolutely does. Like, you feel like you're back there. It's shot the way. It ends a little chaotic. There's some jokes that miss,

but the most part, I just, I had a smile on my face the whole time. It's like, it's Beetlejuice. He's back, baby. What ages is for? Say one to 100. Yep, 100.

I'd say 12, 12 and up. 12 and up, I think maybe, you know, there's a couple darker images, but if you can take the first one, you know, it's like, it's on par with the first one for how dark it is? Yeah, if not. And there are a couple times that maybe even pushing the limit a little bit more. But it's not as, I mean, yeah, there's a lot more to it.

But I, and I've gone into it already in the non-spoiler and everything. to it, but I think that the main thing is really the vibe that I got when I was there. It's like, you know, Roxy, when you go to those screenings, that sometimes it's just like, you go and you just know, you feel that vibe, you're like, oh, this is going to be, this is going to be a big one. Yeah, for sure. You can feel that vibe. Like, you just know that, oh, wait, people are psyched about this.

You're like, people are waiting to get their seats. They're there early. Press and fans are there early. So I don't know. But Brett, you know, this is your Beetlejuice guy. Are you going to go see this with the fam? Yeah, I'd be lying if I said I was, but I would definitely, if they were up for it, I'd go see it. So you basically, it's worth you asking them and getting turned down.

Yeah, yeah, it's definitely worth that. And it is, you know, I mean, I think I made a Beetlejuice quote the other day. Or no, we were singing like Deo or something like that or, you know, shake sonora. So, you know, it's, it's a timely film. And I would have liked to have heard that you thought it was wonderful. But I'm probably, I would probably like it a lot more than most because I'm pretty easy audience. It's very, it's good. We're better in the center.

Okay. Have you guys' kids seen this? Oh, my. The first one? Pretty sure. Yeah. Vivian, it's one of her favorite movies. She, she, she loves Beulgis.

She made me, she became, so she fell in love with. the first movie when she saw it. And then last year, actually, when we visited my uncle and aunt in New York, when my wife and I went out to eat, she discovered the play on YouTube and started watching it and became obsessed with that.

And then I took her to the play. Before we left L.A., we went and saw it. And we had like front row seats. Where? Where was that? I can't... Somewhere in Orange County. Somewhere in Orange County. I can't remember the name of the theater. But it was great. We had a really fun time.

It's one of her most fun experiences that she's had. She was, she knew all the songs. She was singing along. She was in heaven. So she's been looking forward to this movie a lot. So she was very bummed that I couldn't take her to the screening last night for two reasons. One, I didn't have a plus one. No plus ones, wow.

They didn't get plus ones last night. But the other, she couldn't have got anyway because it was her, yesterday was her first day of school. So this was, yeah. So she is, she's very excited to see it. and I think that you're going to get more people to go and check that out. And putting Jenna Ortega in there is brilliant. It's brilliant. And it's not just, and what makes sense with it all of having her in there isn't just,

well, she was in Wednesday, so let's get her. She's popular. A, she fits the vibe of the movie. And B, it's Tim Burton who did Wednesday. So it makes even more sense. He's probably in the middle of the conversations while he's filming with and say, hey, listen, I can put she in how would you would like to play like Lydia Dietz's daughter? And she's just like, yes, please.

And there are some moments, you know, did you love the first one, Rocks? Yeah. So you know, like those grounded moments that they have, like with the Maitlands when they, and it's really the relationship with the Maitlands and Lydia that makes the movie really, it gives it its heart.

There are moments in this movie that get there, and then it's like, it doesn't just get you the same way. You know what I mean? And the other thing is that in the original movie, there's the maintenance trying to get people out of the house the Dietzis are moving into the house and you know they have their story

and then Beetlejuice is trying to is trying to cross havoc those are really the three stories right in this William Defoe is a is a dead cop but not really and I don't want to spoil it you'll see what I mean when you see it

Monica Balucci is a jilted lover looking for Beetlejuice and that's her and that's a big story. Jenna Ortega and Winona Ryder are trying to, you know, patch up their relationship, but Jenna Ortega also has another side story, and Winona Ryder also has another side story.

Catherine O'Hara has a side story. Beetlejuice has a side story. So there's a lot of stories in an hour and 45 minutes. So, and it's, but it's not like to where it's all messy. It's just a lot. But it's also not a rehashing. No. Probably why they did that.

It's not a rehashing, and there's a lot of nostalgic moments in it. Like, there's a lot of nostalgic moments. But not in the way that's like, oh, they're getting you with the member berries because they don't know what else to do here. It's like, no, they tied it in nicely to how the story kind of plays out. So I dug it. But it's more so it's just, I think. Do you have South Park person? Where'd that come from?

The member berries? That's not a South Park thing. That's just. Really? Huh. That's a South Park. Remember when? No, but I do like, so I do.

I don't ever heard of member berries. I do like, that's just the term. But I do like, but I do like South Park, but that's not, that's not as South Park. I've never heard of that. Member berries? Member berries. Yeah. Remember.

Yeah. That's, I think that came from South Park. I don't think so. They're literal member, remember berries. Yeah, but I, who cares? The, the point is this movie is going to do very well. And I think, so let's. go.

I think, and these are this rough estimate, I'm not even looking at anything. I think that, I think it made 125 is what my guess is. Does this movie opening weekend beat it? Brett, let's say you. Yes, definitely. You lost weight, too. I didn't. I've shaved my face.

Oh, okay. It's an old check. What else is going on this weekend? What else is going on? I mean, football, I think, starts, right? Any other movies being released? Nothing, nothing, nothing that's going to... Yeah, football does start.

That honestly might affect it a little bit. That's Sunday, though. Yeah. Yeah. 125. No, I don't think so. You don't think so. I think it gets close, but I wouldn't.

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I know you know about all the drama going on with Beau de Mayo, right? No. You don't know about all this. drama you always oh my god do you not really know i i got this is this has been going on for months no i i don't even know who beau de mayo is wow this times have changed roxy you're usually the ones keeping me up to about the yeah okay so we're over in camp marvel x-men tell me what's going on all right then i have to come back to this because i this is this is like jump into the season finale do you know what's going on bret no no no you don't know i don't know what's going on

Right. His name sounds super familiar. He's an X-Men creator. He was the showrunner on X-Men 97. I'm going to give you the condoms. Oh, I didn't watch the show, so I don't know anything about this. It doesn't matter. It was everywhere. As much as you're on social media, how you didn't see this stuff, I have no-it, this is everywhere. I couldn't avoid it. I didn't want anything to deal with it. Well, did you see that the girl who did who the F did I marry is getting a spin-off show with Natasha Rothwell playing her? I have a good friend. That's where my brain's been. I have a good friend who's working on that. I'm just kidding.

I have no idea what are you talking about. Gotcha. I wanted a chat visit so long. Yeah, that's fine. I'll make a phone call. So, Bowdo Meo was the showrunner in X-Many-7. So this show before, you know how big of a hit this show was. Yes, he was.

Yeah, yeah. Please don't tell me he got fired. He got fired the day before the show started. The day before the show debuted, he was fired. he was fired and they didn't say why. And there was like, there was no reason to just gone. Not just gone. But what do you mean?

He's a showrunner. How do you get fired for the next season? No, he wasn't even invited to the, they, we didn't invite him to the premiere of the first season. But he didn't get fired. He just wasn't asked back. He wasn't, yeah, well, he was, he was fired from continuing on. He already did seasons one and seasons two, right?

Okay. But he wasn't, but he wasn't part of, they said moving forward, we're removing them from it, and that's it. Right. And he's highly regarded as the reason why this is as successful as it is and how well he knew it. But. Okay. Oh my God.

Yeah. So the question is then like, well, this is what this is, and this was like months, like four or five months, whenever it came out, four or five months ago. And everyone was like, well, something, this is something more to this than, because he wasn't posting about anything. He was just tweeting about it while the show was going on. Disney wasn't saying anything. and it was just nothing was happening. He should come out and reveal the truth of why he got fired. You know what's going.

Are you looking at news now? Is that what you're doing? He was talking about the show, though, critical, right? While the show was going on, he was talking about the show. He was talking about the show, but he wasn't talking about, like, why he left. So then, I don't know, this is probably like a month ago, maybe. Jeff Snyder said he had some more details on what was going on. Snyder get his newsletter and rocks yeah and there are some other people who said there was some news and basically what it was is that he said the rumors were the rumors were that one of the reasons that were floating around but never confirmed was that the reason why beau de mea was fired was because of some only fans thing and that he had some picture whatever it was that that was the reason why it's going to be a lawsuit if it's out if it's not if it has nothing to do with anything it's just because he has an only fans page who cares it's like it's like but that clearly wasn't the case because what happened then

And he spoke out because what happened recently, the recent drama before the thing I'm going to read you now, is that the big drama was this, that they removed him from season two, his credit. They took his name off of it and they said, even though he worked on it and all the stuff. And so he was like, then he started publicly tweeting about, well, this and that, and they said, well, the reason why we took him is it's in our agreement

that if you were tweeting out and everything, And apparently he was tweeting more stuff about what happened or whatever it was. Take your name out. You kind of violated whatever it was. Then they revealed that he had made kind of really inappropriate stuff around the office and that people felt uncomfortable, all this different stuff. And you have to read into all of it. It could be misquoting some of it.

But for the most part, that's the gist of it. And now there's a new report kind of, there's so much more to it. I'm giving you the idiots version of it. It's just because this is like six months of it. But then this is the story that broke, at least on a number, reading today. So Bo de Mayo is going to reveal the whole truth of the firing if you subscribe to his only fans page. Brilliant. Yeah. Oh. Bo de Mayo, who was fired as X-Men 97 showrunner earlier this year, has promised to reveal the whole truth of what happened to those who subscribed to his

only fans page. Back in March, the surprising news broke that Marvel Studios Disney had fired X-Men 97 showrunner Bo DeMayo shortly before the animated reveal shows world premiere. Since then, the internet has been rife with rumors and speculation. about what might have led to DeMeo's dismissal, and last month Marvel finally released a statement on the matter. Mr. DeMeo was terminated in March 2024 following an internal investigation. Given the egregious nature of the findings, we severed ties with him immediately,

and he has no further affiliation with Marvel. Though no specific details were revealed, we have heard that DeMayo was terminated for sending lewd photos to members of his staff, and there have been further reports of him been physically and sexually inappropriate. with several of his colleagues. DeMeo has denied this, suggesting that his firing was simply due to homophobia and claiming that he was stripped of his Exman 97 season two credits shortly after sharing some gay Pride Month

fan art of himself in a six-a-simpy Cyclops costume. Now, DeMaio is promising to reveal the whole truth about what happened if you subscribe to his page for $999. D'Amato has already shared the following. The allegations of this conduct are false. The rumors being spread around me are lies. Marvel Studios has hired a new scribe to replace DeMayo for the in-development season three with deadline reporting that Matthew Chauncey, who has previously worked on episodes

of What If and Miss Marvel will take over. Chanty will work alongside Jake Castorina with original 90s series EP Larry Houston, yada, yada, yada, yada. So, Roxy. Now that's some tea, is it not? Yeah. Yes. No, I mean, I'm super curious what actually happened.

It feels like an internal. investigation and you were immediately fired wouldn't be you showed a couple of fun gay pride images to your co-workers in a skimpy outfit like there's more to that this is hollywood and nobody would give a shit about that like go on with your bad self sorry not nobody but like an internal investigation would not fire you over that no so if that's what he's going to claim in his only fans video because clearly he's not going to slander himself. Yeah.

Then, first of all, hysterical way to get people to your only fans. Second of all, of course, it's going to be written about, I'm sure, in Snyder and everywhere else. But also, is Marvel going to retaliate and say, this is actually what happened. If he's going to say this now. They've already done that. And he's not going to win this fight. He's not going to win this fight because. Well, what do you mean win?

Make a lot of money off of it? Maybe. He said there's going to be lawsuits and he's got these other things too. This is one of those things where there's not, because if this is what he's saying, and look, it's alleged. So this is what he's saying. And it actually is the fact that he did this one picture. Then Disney's going to lose a lot of money.

And Disney's going to, and they're going to, you don't think that Disney is going to say, we better be able to back up everything that we're talking about here. Especially after the James Gunn situation. after all of it after this everything that they've gone through yeah what do you think he's going to say in his only fans and don't you think he's going to make a ton of money oh sure he's out ten bucks they'll have to join just to just to see what's happening see what he's going to say is like somebody sign up to this guy's page see what's going to happen give him ten bucks I guess we got to sign up what's going on 100 percent but um but it does it does show you though that it's like this is this does go back to because Roque and I were talking about this. It almost seems like this guy is his own worst enemy because this thing could have just gone away

after a while. And he would have gotten his credit on season two. I never heard of this problem, so I never even would have known about it. And he was talking about, and he was talking about these things publicly again. I was talking about certain things about how they, whatever it was,

he started talking again. And it's like, dude, we could have, this would have gone away and you could have worked again. Now you're making it such a, a big thing. Now look, if it comes down that he's telling him the absolute truth and all this was. Then it's like, look, then fight your fight. Fight your fight and prove it. I just feel that it doesn't look good for him in this. Anyone coming to his defense? No, that's the other thing. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of people. And I shouldn't say no definitively, but not,

not loudly if I should say that. I shouldn't say definitively because I don't know if that's the truth. Yeah. But I, but I say loudly I haven't heard it and it doesn't, it doesn't seem like, you know, if it was really unjust, it'd be like a lot. If it was really unjust, Roxie, I feel like you would have heard about it. Yeah, but I don't know. And if really they fired him because he showed pride image of himself, then we're going to find that out and they're going to get fuck. Right, that. That's right. And don't you think they know that? Don't you think they're aware of that? Like if it's like, yeah, yeah, right. For, forgive me, but like, so

because he didn't keep his mouth shut about the firing, that's why they released why he was fired, right? Before. Well, no, no, no. And that's why they didn't get credit on season two. Yes, that's why they didn't give credit on season two because he kept talking about certain things and he kept bringing up. And then, and then because he kept, then they said, well, here's, here's the real reason why we took his credit off because of this. He could have just kept his mouth shut.

They didn't know anything about that, you know, so then they presented the picture. He should have, he should have, if he would have stopped tweeting and not tweet it at all, like, so there's many people have gotten themselves in trouble for. if he would have not tweeted I think you're right, Roxy. I think it looks better in the middle. So if if he would have stopped

You get the movement on the top of it. You've got to move me closer to Brett so I'm not so close to you because we've got time gap. Good? Now we're just... How's that? A little more to you.

I heard you a little more. Yeah. Oh, right there. That is that is, that was an ad for ADD. That whole thing. Anyway, so yeah, if he would have just, if, you know, not said a word, he would have gotten his season two credit. He wouldn't have come back to Axeman, obviously, but he probably could have gotten another gig somewhere else, too. It would be hard for him.

Now he's got to do OnlyFans to, in order to, or continue to OnlyFans or try to give his money through Onlyfans. So I don't know. Not that it is our business unless you subscribe, but do we know what he's doing on Onlyfans? No idea. No clue. But what's that? Well, what are you laughing at? I'm trying to send you something.

Just this, I'm sorry. I just thought of something. I think this is a great bit once we finish this. Or if you want to drive right, I'm, what is it? You're giggling your ass off. I want you to,

I'm going to send you this thing and you can play it over the room. Are you trying it Christian? Oh, no, that's a photo of it. That's not what I wanted to do. Is it video? No, it's just an audio thing. And I want you guys to try to guess what this is.

Okay, let's see. Now, hold on, let me do it this way. I did a screenshot the first time, but I did it accident. So, yeah. Don't tell anything. I think I can do it. I think, tell me if you can. I didn't get it. No, no, he sent it to me, but tell me if you can hear this first before I start.

Can you hear that, Roxy? You can. Okay. All right, ready? Here it is. No, I couldn't hear anything. Couldn't hear this? Oh, yeah. Is that Roxy's neighbor? Sounds like Rock's the neighbor, doesn't it? Is that what you were saying?

Now, no. Is that his only fans page? No, you know what that is? No. I wish it was a little louder. It's, it's, it's, uh, you let me know if you want to guess or I reveal what that is. What, uh, what is that? Is that Patty boy, it's me, daddy's having trouble later on?

No. No. No. It's, it's me having a nightmare. My daughter has you. My daughter has an app that records. her sleeping and then it records the whole sleep because she sleep talks and she just likes to go back and listen so it records all of the night and then only clips out what you and that's through a closed doors and a

wall me screaming in the middle of the night or wait wait and where is lying next to you when this is happened was she like hit me like woke me up like what's going on yeah what dude that sounds like a horror let me see if i if i played in the mic maybe it'll be be yeah try to play it in the mind let me say well maybe maybe it'll be louder here last night i'll try to turn it up but it sounds like sex noises what what we're talking about it just made you think of that brad you poor bastard i just thought i was like that's what that's what he would sell on his only fans is it yeah yeah i thought only fans and to me it sounded kind of sec and it was my brain was going like there was something i wanted to share with these guys and then suddenly

you should you know you should do you should play that in tandem with with your neighbor roxy Great. Do you remember where you were nightmarrying about? It was a dark room and somebody like came around the corner and attacked me. It was a very brutal, brutal. You remembered it. Well, you remember the actual dream. I have very vivid dreams that I remember now. So this medication I take for nighttime that's both depression and sleeping gives me the most insane dreams. but they're like films that come full circle and then like if I wake up I can go back to sleep

because I have to finish the through line of the third act and and you know come to a conclusion I remember Makuga talking all about this his night terrors you guys remember maccuga used to talk about this on air they screamed off his lungs that's what that sounds like yes I was stationary luckily I wasn't like flailing and stuff because I know people that have like hit their spouse and oh my girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever you You know, like, but I was just like, and there's been times where I've actively known I was sleeping and having a dream. And I went like, like to wake me up because I wanted to end it, but I couldn't get out of it in the dream. Now you wonder why you didn't celebrate your anniversary.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I was like, oh, it sounded like I was celebrating it. But, damn, I've been having the weirdest dreams recently because I only nightmare, Brett kind of sounds like that. I like yell in my sleep and stuff too, so I've been told. But I recently, I'm only in horror competition shows in my nightmares. Every night, it's a different competition, but they're all like, it's almost like fear factor. Yeah. And I have to get through them, but I'm making up great shows in my sleep right now.

I just can't remember fully when I wake up. You watch so much stuff. Oh, speaking, we're going to get into the TV stuff in just a second because I have things before you can get into your picks. things that I can tell you that I've been catching up on. Yeah. But before we do it, as I mentioned, Jillian Michaels, you guys know, she has a podcast that she's now on Bill Maher's network. We had a really good conversation. I didn't never met her before.

It's just one of those people that we had a good conversation, even though we had said that maybe we don't line up on everything. To be able to have a conversation with someone is very important without saying, you're on the other team. So I want to show you this interview with myself and Jillian Michaels. Please take a look and then we'll come back and we'll get Roxy's picks. Here you go. Okay. So my next guest doesn't really need an introduction, but I'm going to do it because I need to do it. And I want to tell you about it.

Because Jillian Michaels, you know who Gillian Michaels is. She's a world-renowned health and wellness expert. She has dominated the health and wellness space globally, whether it's in every realm of media. She is committed to becoming the best. version of everybody, whoever if you, if somebody is out there, she wants to help them. She wants them to be the better version of themselves. And she has had a podcast for a very long time that is super popular, keeping it real. She's going to video now.

And she has been doing it. And I spoke to her maybe 33 seconds before we started this conversation. And I can already tell that we're going to have a blast here because it's just going to be conversation. It's going to be me and Jillian Michaels. And here she is. Hello, Gillian. How are you? Hi, how are you?

I'm well, thank you very much. Right before we started chatting, I told you that I traveled across the country to, I lived in L.A. for about 25 years and moved with the whole family to New York. Why New York, though? Like, I get the move. Listen, I completely, everybody knows I had an exodus from California, but New York doesn't really solve any of the problem. that California presents

taxes being a big one. Taxes is a pain in the ass. There's no doubt about it, but I'm not in Manhattan. I know. I know. I know. I know. However, I'll tell you this,

I'm not in Manhattan. That's part one. Okay, okay. Yes. So part two is that the schools where I have two children, I have two daughters. So one is 12, one is six going on 45, and she literally is a soprano.

I'm not even kidding. Good luck with that, man. It doesn't get easier. No, but they're in gymnastics. They're in martial arts. They're in all these things. So that's great. But so they needed to,

my 12-year-old was not happy where she was school-wise. School system, not the best. Gas was like $6. $6.50. It was like $3.15 here where I am. Groceries are not that bad where I am. The community is really, really nice. People are sweeter.

I'll tell you that. Oh yeah, LA's brutal. It's like the land of tolerance. Yes, yes. With the most intolerant people. It's so true. It's like, it tells you something. My 12-year-old was with my wife.

They were walking around in a store. And she, and a woman said to my wife, oh, I see it kind of looking around. Do you need help? How are you? Nice to see you. And my daughter's like, why is she being so nice. That's weird.

She wasn't used to it. And she loves it. She absolutely loves how nice people are here. So that's kind of why we made them. I was born in Queens. I lived in Queens for a long time, but that's not where we're living, but that I couldn't do again.

After living in L.A. for 25 years, jumping back to Queens would be very different. I get it. But that's it. But that's it. But you're in, but you're not,

you're in Miami, yes? So we moved from Los Angeles in 2021. We moved to Copeland Grove in Miami. And then we recently got a little place in Wyoming for two reasons. One, to escape Miami in the summer. Holy cow. And to be a bit closer to L.A. because I still have my mom in Los Angeles, who is not young, my brother, my ex didn't move,

so it's a whole thing. And occasionally I do have to go in for work. So it makes it like an hour and a half jump instead of a six hour jump. But I just, L.A. is brutal. It's changed. It's changed. It's changed dramatically. I was there for 25 years and I have a lot of close friends there. Same thing. There's times that I have to go back for work. I do have to do that five and a half, six-hour flight when I go and it is not fun. No. But my parents are in Florida. So for me, I just visited my dad.

It just had back surgery. So I just visited him. He'll go help walk the dogs. Two hours and 15 minutes. Cake. That's so easy. You can get to Europe like that from East Coast. I know.

Hawaii's not as accessible now, but that's whatever. So anyway, let's get the whole Caribbean though. The Caribbean is beautiful. That's true. That's true. That's right there. We have options. But, you know, I really, as I was, I really like the fact that you

have throughout your career, you know how to pivot. You know how to do, you know, if there's, and especially if there's something that you want to do and there's something you want to go after, you do it. And I think that is, that is the podcast, the fact that you took that show, you made it a hit in audio and then you said, you know, it's time to shift and go to video. Where did that come about? When did you want to do that? I did it. Bill Maher did it. Okay. So I want to take the credit. But this all started 15 years ago. I was doing a little radio show in Los Angeles on KFI, AM 640 and Sunday mornings live. And it was like Dr. Laura, but for fitness and diet, people would call and ask questions.

And I was getting busier and busier. It became harder to do the show live. And my business partner, I think I was making like $150 a show. But I just, I loved the medium. I was already on NBC. I didn't need the money. I just enjoyed the medium and he said, look, you can't be live every Sunday. This isn't going to work.

However, we could get into this podcasting thing. And this is obviously years ago, for a decade ago. So we moved over to the podcast world. And first, it was same thing, fitness, nutrition. And we won a little award from Apple and a little award from Google. But we weren't on YouTube. That's for a podcast where they were audio only. And then we expanded and began interviewing different jobs.

and different PhDs in nutrition science or exercise physiology. And it grew from there. This year, I was on Bill Mars podcast, Club Brandon. And then I subsequently went on his HBO show real time. And we got in a few heated debates about a variety of topics, whether it was Ozympic, there was a pedic or poison. He thought his coffee was acidic and bad for him.

and bad for him. And we had a numerous, numerous amount of little bickering matches over this stuff. And ultimately, I smashed him with all this research after the shows. And he goes, why is nobody else saying the things that you're saying then? I said they are, Bill, just not publicly, because some of these doctors suffer from things like medical McCarthyism, pharma cartels that come down on them. They get canceled. They get censored. All this stuff happens. And he digested it. And he his own form of anti-woke liberalism, but his biggest goal, whether he agrees with you or not, is to protect the integrity of freedom of speech,

the ability to have difficult conversations, a fearless search for the truth, and he just said, I wanna weaponize you by putting you in a position where you can't be canceled. And then I wanna see what you can do. We're gonna move it to YouTube where all the eyeballs are. And from there, you know, I can do a substack deal, I could do a locals deal,

I could do a Rumble deal. I can do whatever I want. And again, he's Bill Maher. So that's really how it all happened. And we've got like 15 shows done, but only five are out because we release one every Monday. That's fantastic, though. But it does show you the power of a conversation and the power, not only just conversation, no, the conversation where people can actually be rational even if they don't agree with one another, right? because that doesn't happen a lot where because especially where we are today as a society like it's like it always seems to me Yankees versus Red Sox you know it's like no matter what it is on both sides whether it's politics or whether it's freaking Star Wars and DC and Marvel like people are like it's like they take these stances now like everything is right everybody wants to fight and and the idea that you can get into these arguments especially like Bill Mars someone to

takes his stances and could, he doesn't seem to me, and you know him, I don't, but he doesn't seem to me that someone that does back off of his opinion. So it does surprise me a little bit that he's like, well, wait a minute, you showed me this. I took a look at it. I'm actually going to, not necessarily change my stance, but I want you to talk about it now and he gave you a platform. And that's, there's a lot to that. Bill, I think, has become hugely popular, not just because he's funny and not just because he's smart, but because he's willing to do all of those things. And I think I did change his mind on most of the subject matters. Although, when it comes to politics,

who's out of their lane now? He went after me. But where I could solidly stand on expert ground, I could shift his opinions. That said, you're absolutely right. Our ability to engage in difficult conversations where we don't agree with each other is how great things.

get done. I don't know what happened. If you go back throughout history, you had Kennedy working with Khrushchev to stop the Cuban missile crisis. They were not homies. Now we're at a time where you never talk to the enemy, you only talk to the ally, whether it's on a geopolitical scale and wars are happening because of it or it's literally with the guy that is a fan of a different sports team. You're absolutely right. It's bizarre. But I think the more we work on it and we continue talking and push people to diversify their newsfeed. I really think that's critical, is if we can get them to diversify their newsfeed and then start doing their own homework on what they're finding in these diversified forms of

media. I agree with you because I think what happens ultimately is that we're hurting knowledge, our own knowledge, right? Because you'll have these conversations with people, and this is the thing that I hate social media. Like, I hate it. I know. But because social media, look, I use it. I use it to promote my stuff.

I use it all the time. But I can't, I see people and friends of mine that have got back and forth and arguments instead of how many people do you see either ruin their careers or ruin things over one thing that they tweeted no matter how passionate they are because they can't do the same thing. Like what you and I are doing right now, we're having a conversation. If you happen to say something that I don't agree with or something that I, like, well, wait a minute, hold on, let's talk. I feel like we'll have that conversation of you'll tell me your point. I'll tell you mine and maybe we'll find somewhere in the middle like, okay, maybe I don't agree. but I like the way that you kind of represented yourself and I get where you're coming from.

You can't do that on social media. I can't figure out, by the way, why people vilify a person that has a different opinion. So, for example, if you told me you loved Kamala, I would say, what do you love about her? If you told me you loved Trump, I would say, what do you love about him?

And the irony is both of these parties are promising the same thing. I mean, pay attention, whether they can deliver it or not is a totally separate conversation. But my point is, I'm going to fix the economy. I'm getting us out of these wars.

It's all the same shit, right? Everybody wants the same stuff. We want to be healthy. We want to be financially secure. We want people to stop dying. We all want that. We just have different opinions on how to get there. So let's work off of that common ground.

I was just having this dialogue about masks, people who wore masks at all costs, triple masks in the car. And that means you're a lefty. whereas the people who are afraid of the vaccine and concerned that there might be a vaccine associated, and that means you're all right. But the reality is you've got two people who are just worried about their health. And they just have different ideas about what could compromise it.

So how do we get some empathy there for that fear and concern and then begin to look at the science behind each concern? And if we don't end up agreeing on all that, oh, well, it doesn't mean that person. is a bad person. Right. Yeah, I mean, that's, well, that's exactly, especially in the political side, that's where it is today, right? It really is, because it's like you can't, if you happen to have certain ideas that, as you say, like maybe you, there's some stuff that you lean left on. You say, well, I actually agree with that. Like, oh, you're on their team. Or if you go on the other side, you go, well, wait a minute, there's some things financially that Republicans are saying

that I'm on board, well, what are you saying you're on their team? It's like, I'm not anyone's team. I'm just saying that there was a time in the world where you could agree with someone who has opposite political sides that maybe for that one particular issue, you do agree. And we have lost that. I totally agree with you. My ex is still very, she's a great co-parent. And we, you know, we go back and forth sometimes on different subject matters. Because my daughter decided to antagonize her and said, Viva Le Trump. Right. And she's like, I shouldn't even know how she gets this. Anyway, we were going back and forth. And I said, listen, I think she's more exposed to some things than you think.

And I said, are you aware of this 25% capital gains tax on unrealized gains that Kamala is presenting? Because I think you should know about that. Your income's capital gains. And she's like, no, I did not know about that. Did you know about this? And I was like, I did not know about that. It's like, where is the ability to say, hey, this is. Well, let me ask.

We got to keep doing this, but we're doing this. Of course. But let me ask you, though, too. And I'm sure the answer is yes or maybe it isn't. But if she then had brought to you and then said, okay, well, wait a minute. But there's also things that, you know, your guy is saying that is actually not true at all because of this, this and this. You're listening. I know it all.

And I literally sit there and I'm like, okay. Right. Right. You got January 6th. Yikes. And I'm not even saying, forget the people that weren't really armed and all that. I know all that. It's just the fact that you said don't certify the election results.

That's like, they're great. Right. But then it's the fact that you guys kind of plan this whole thing so you can slot in your candidate, even though she never got one primary vote. Like, both are kind of fucked for me. I think the political game in general. I think the political game in general is fucked. I totally agree.

Yeah. So for me, I'm like, good Lord. It's definitely a conversation of lesser evils. And then I appreciate people who are one to three issue voters. What are the issues that are most important to me? What are the issues that are most important to you? And when you stop to listen, a young woman's issue is going to be, or issues, are very different than a middle-aged guy's issues.

And you don't hate those people. We vote based on what we're dealing with in our own lives every day. And I do, I absolutely see the boss because I don't care. It's not personal. Well, yeah. I don't care. You're right. It's like, I want to know.

And let me figure out. what I can live with, given that these are my two choices. Yeah, and that's why there is not, and where we have come together, where there is really not a lot of bipartisanship. They push it as it is. I'll tell you the only thing, and I cover this, and I have no idea if you have interested or not. Tell me.

UFOs, UAPs. Oh, I'm just, I totally tell me everything. Did you just watch that new Rogan with Luis Elizondo? I am, so I host a show called Down to Earth with Christian Harlock, and it's a daily UAP news thing. following Lou's book, everything that's going on with Lou, David Grush, the whole thing I've been following, because the way I fell into it, Gillian, was that I was never into this. And I hosted a show back on Collider and the New York Times article came out, which Lou talked about

on Rogan. Was this 2019? 17, 2017. Okay, got, got, got, got, got. And that was, Lou was behind that, right? He was, him and Chris Mellon. Him and Chris Mellon. Yes.

Yeah, he was. So, Leslie Kane. Yeah, Leslie Kane. Yeah, Leslie Kane was the one of it is. I'm interrupting. No, you're not, it is, look, we're just talking. So I was watching this thing on, well, rewind, 2017. I was hosting a show in Collider Live and that New York Times article came out.

And we started talking about it and I was like, you know, I'm a science fiction guy. I like all that kind of stuff. And I'm like, wait a minute. These pilots are actually talking about this? Interesting. And then it just kind of disappeared. And not that it wasn't, like there weren't conversations happening that I wasn't aware of, but in the popular, the zeitgeist and all that stuff, it wasn't there for me.

So rewind to last year. And I'm watching something on Disney Plus, or it was National Geographic or something, and there was this documentary that pops up that says UFOs investigating the unknown. And it was a five-part series. And I'm like, oh, what is this? Ancient aliens? I'm like, what are we doing here? So I'm like, I think I was stone.

I think I was stone. So I was like, I'll watch it. So I go and I turn it on. And it's not that at all. It's exactly what you're talking about. It's more of the inside of Leslie Kane, Lou Elizondo, James Fox, going into all this And I'm like, wait, these are like actual pilots and military and everybody talking about this stuff. And I started talking about it on my show.

And then it became like randomly. So David Grush does this interview with News Nation. And it's this guy who ran this who was part of the program who was interviewing people like Lou Alizando and Carl Nell and we're admirals and all this stuff. And then they do a hearing. And where this all comes back to our point that we're talking about. So in this hearing. you have Matt Gates sitting next to AOC, sitting next to Tim Burchett, sitting next to Garcia,

and they were all on the same page. They were all bipartisan talking because if this whole thing is legit of what Lou Alizando was talking about, it's more important than any of the shit that we were just talking about 10 minutes ago. That wild. Right? You know, have you spoke to Michael Schellenberger at all about this? No, but I'm very aware.

He, so I just had him on about something totally different. We were talking about the W. Pat files, which has to do with gender affirming care and all of the dark evils that go on there. That said, and this has nothing to be of being transphobic for anybody who is misinformed. It has to do with the leak. Just Google them double path file. That will go too far off these. But he was doing research on the UAPs.

And when he came on recently, I said, Michael, I got to ask me, so I'm fascinated. Where are you at with this? And he goes, Jillian, a little too intense. I had to stop. It's, it's, I'm telling you. I keep up with this every day. Every day.

I had to stop. Yeah. I mean, the guy is trying to take down, like, CIA, the White House, the FBI. You stopped researching this? I, I, wow, that freaked me out. I am fascinated by it like you. I'm totally with you on it. I've followed it for a while.

And what I don't understand, and I guess because it's intangible, no one really seems to care. It's the main, the mainstream media doesn't cover it as much, which is crazy. When you have like, so take for example, look like News Nation, right? So News Nation has covered it. When they clip out something about Hunter Biden, Trump trials,

their clipouts, do okay at best. They do UFO, UAP stuff 700,000, 800,000, 1.2 million. It's like not even, because it's the one news outlet that actually kind of covers it. NBC finally covered

Lou Alessando, Fox covered it, ABC covered it, and these people are finally covering Lou because how do you not, a guy who ran the program is saying, oh, not only are these things real, but they're non-human. This isn't somebody behind a barn saying it. This is a guy who worked for the government.

And it's like, and he's out there saying, well, he wants to sell his book. One book? He's going to save the aliens around. One book? But there's evidence. That's the thing. There's evidence. It's been going on.

And Schellenberger said to me, he goes, I'll tell you this much. After we dropped a bomb, something serious happened. Yeah. Like, oh, God. Oh, I'm telling you, I could talk to you about this for like five hours. Do you remember the Arizona Lights? Yes. I'm sure how old you are.

When I was a kid, I remember that. was on the news for about five seconds, and it was some craft the side of a football field. And I remember thinking, what the fuck? And I don't know, 10. I don't remember what it happened, but I was very young. It was on the nightly news. And I was like, is that, how is nobody going to,

nobody's going to freak out about it? Then they made fun of it and it somehow went away. But I saw this thing on the news. I know what I saw. Well, go back to that. Go back. That's the whole point we were talking about with social media, right? is that it is getting harder and harder for them to do what you just said with.

They're like, oh, well, they made fun of it. It's taboo. Harder to do taboo with social media with so many people talking about it and these clips coming out and the conversation around it. But it really is fascinating. I think there's more, as you're saying with Schindberg, I was talking about, there's more information coming out. There's potentially more hearings. And that's what I hope because the way this ties back into kind of what you do as well is that it's not partisan. bipartisan, bipartisan, not political.

No, consciousness. Consciousness is what they say that this is all combined of two with whether you believe in the non-human stuff, what they do with the craft and the things that they have. It's the consciousness and the idea of whether it's manifestation, whether it's all these different things that you can do with the human mind that haven't been explored. And I have to assume that with your career and things,

just mentally what you have to do in order to, you know, keep yourself in shape all the damn time. I know for myself that it's like you've got to mentally really, I'm becoming really good friends with Matt Sarah. I don't know if you know Matt Sarah. He's a former UFC Walter Ray champ. And he is, I'm producing his show and he is every time he comes in here, he goes, when are you coming to my school?

When are you going to start training? And I'm like, I'm like an idiot to not train with Matt Sarah, but I got to get this right in order to do it. So that being said, how important is it? Like the, you know, consciousness, the mental to keep yourself kind of moving in this direction constantly. I would love to give you funny. I was just watching Megan Kelly interview Sean Ryan this morning.

I don't know why. It just like popped up on my feet as I was bringing back from dropping up to kids at school. He was talking about how we developed this unbelievable discipline. And I was thinking, God, I didn't have a process for developing discipline, although there are so many things I don't believe I would have the strength for. He was talking about people not signing up to join the mission. military and all the reasons why, top reason I don't want to die. Yep, that's, you know, I'm scared.

I don't have the strength. I wonder often, could I survive the loss of a child? Could I survive going to war? Could I survive? And I hate to tell you, I don't think I have the mental strength. The things that I have become resilient with is because I had no choice. Have you had told me that I was going to be publicly flogged and canceled and attacked and insulted, like all these people were going to hate me.

I would have never signed up for that. I didn't know. So it happens to you. And then you don't have a choice but to come through it. And when you're on the other side of it and you're still standing, now your emotional fabric is that much stronger, has been stretched that much more. And you're like, all right, well, I got through it. If I could do that, I can do this.

But none of it was really intentional. It was just about life kicking my ass. ass not like i was brave enough to engage in anything i kind of accidentally stepped in a pile of shit and then had to deal with that whether it was getting into martial arts as an overweight kid i had no idea that was going to be you know my being challenged in the way that i was and um six years of very intense training to get my black belt and it would reform my entire physique and mindset i didn't know that shit until i accidentally fell into it and then once you're in it you don't really have a true

choice but to survive and I have often found myself in the free fall if you will. Yeah. I mean, that makes sense. To go back on what you just said, like, and I guess combining it to working with Bill, like, is there, so you got, as you said, you have gotten yourself, obviously, whether it was people coming after you and kind of bouncing back from that. And is that, and I know that I'm sure at times, especially when you're in that storm, that it's hard to find work and it's harder people want to take meetings with you. Like, yeah. How long does it take before, like, and are there any hesitations? It doesn't seem like it with Bill, but he's more so.

He seems like he approached you. So he's more like, let's, let's do this. And if there is, because you're not someone that holds back, you're going to speak your mind. Is there ever a conversation where he says, well, you know, it doesn't seem like this is something he's going to say. But if he was, if there's ever a conversation, like, look, there are certain things we stay away from or just like, just gloves off do what you got to do? He gives zero fucks. Yeah. He really does.

And he's team. So there's Chris Case and Chuck LaBella who run Club Random Studios. And I just did a podcast with a world-renowned gastroenterologist named Dr. Sabine Hazen. And she was one of the doctors whose research was silenced during COVID. And I've been talking to Dr. Hazen for years because I do a health podcast and she wrote a book about the microbiome. And she's one of the best. So we've gone back and forth for years. And the long and the short of it is she put forward a hypothesis.

about Ivermectin, mitigating the severity of COVID, and then she looked at the vaccine and its impact on microbiome, blah, blah, blah. And she went through hell and she was silenced. And ironically, Mark Zuckerberg just came out and said, yeah, we silenced all these doctors and all these people talking about COVID, I had no choice. The week that episode dropped. So I called Chris at Club Random and I was like, listen, this is, this is going to say like Ivermactin, COVID, hydrochloroquine, Vax injury.

Like, what do you want me to do? He's like, I don't give a shit, go. He goes, if anything, I'll just go to Bill and say, let's move to Substack. Like, are you serious? Wow. Are you sure? And he's like, do it. So I did.

And, you know, we're still standing. Everybody's still alive. Show's doing great. But I think Bill is, he's that much more seasoned. And he's also a gazillioner. He just doesn't give a fuck. He really doesn't. Yeah, he doesn't give a shit.

Not about being canceled or having somebody go after him. In my experience with Bill, he cares deeply about his work. And he cares deeply about his messages like anti-woke liberalism, engaging in conversations, all the things we talked about earlier. But I don't think he's afraid of anything. It doesn't seem like that now because he even went, because he's changed kind of, I've never, because truth be told me, like, as far as I respect, I respect him as far as what he's done with his career.

There are some times that I disagree with him all of the time. Of course, yeah. But there are times that what, and I'll see him on, there's certain times, like he, that's why I said to you earlier. There was something, because I also deal in like the movie space and the kind of geek space and that stuff too. And he had made comments about comic book movies and certain things that he said where to me it felt like he was kind of insulting the people who worked on him and talking about

how they were just meant for children. certain things. And he knows sometimes to put his hands up and he keeps punching in your face, even though you're like, well, wait a minute. Hold on. He does. That's what he does. He knows. He knows. He knows he's going to do that because he also knows he's going to get himself. Yeah. And he's like, I have seen him say that this is out of my wheelhouse entirely. But I remember when he had been commenting that crypto was just a policy scheme and I thought he really should talk to like Charles Hoskins. It's a tech actually. And it's kind of brilliant. And they're doing pretty impressive stuff with it. It isn't about Doge.

There's so much more to it. But I didn't challenge him on that because I'm not the one to do so. You know, maybe one of the Winkle boss twins will do it down the road. Sure, he's not, he's not a genius about everything. And you're right. I disagree with him and, and in fact, disagreed with him on numerous things. But the fact that he just, he's like, and this is why, you know, we have this conversation and we can still be friends, even though we don't agree. And I think that's what people love about him ultimately is you can challenge him. He can challenge you. It doesn't take any of it personally. And he's anti-cancel culture at a time where being anti-cancel culture gets you canceled.

And he's been doing it since the beginning, fearlessly. Him and Rogan, I think. Well, I think that says something a lot about Club Random, though, too, is that they want to take points of views and different points of views and different political points of views, different takes in general. That to me is smart business because I think that, look, there are times that, that there are times that people will have a point of view. I don't agree with everybody, but I like to, as we were just talking about earlier, I like to talk to people, right? And it's like, well, you can't have that person on because they're not,

we just, we talked about this, but it'd be, because if that person's on, then that means you, that you're on their team. I'm like, no, it means it's when to talk to them. It means I want to, I'm curious. Like, I don't, and as you said before, I've heard your stance on, like, the vaccines and everything, too. I don't necessarily agree with all the things that, that you have said, but I do. Me on the vaccines, which one, hepatitis B?

Yeah, I think that there was one particular thing as far as like when you were talking about the vaccinations as far as people with the shots. Yes, for COVID. Excuse me. When it comes. I have really made a statement about that. Oh, you haven't. So maybe then maybe I'm misinformed. Okay, well. But tell me what you think it is. I'll see if I've said anything similar. You know what's funny about this also, Julian, I'll tell you this, is that I don't normally go. I don't dive deep into these topics normally on my shows. I don't. On the UAP stuff, I do. I don't normally. I'm here for both. Yeah, because, and the reason why, and when I, when, with talking to you, because I feel as, A, comfortable talking to you about this type of, B, I have made it, because people, I've seen people make statements about me. They don't know what the hell I am as far as politics. They don't know where I stand on politics. Because I think that it doesn't really, in my opinion, it doesn't matter what the hell I think to my audience as far politics is that's not what I talk about all the time, minus UAP stuff, minus all these other things. I have certain things. I do think that my kids needed the vaccine. I do think that, that I, that I needed it. But what I don't do in the same way that I, if, if, if somebody likes the last Star Wars movie, good for them. I didn't. It doesn't mean that I think that you should, you know, that you're a loser and this is,

this is what the people do. It's like, if you think that you should have gotten the vaccine, then you should get it. I didn't actually get the vaccine. Bill actually wishes he hadn't got the vaccine. But here's just, just for the record, what alarms me at the moment regarding vaccines is, I'm not well versed on the COVID vaccine, believe it or not. I'm more concerned about the fact that our vaccine schedule for kids has gone from like 12 when I was a child to 70 plus.

And I was doing an interview the other day. And the gentleman goes, well, isn't that just the advancement of technology? And I said, now, let's take something like hepatitis B. And this is one that I've been very outspoken about. So hepatitis B, you get from risky sex and needles. So a child's not getting hepatitis B unless they get it from the mother when she's pregnant with the baby, but you can test the mother. So why would you give a newborn hepatitis B? And if you do some research into the origin of this vaccine, you know, they spent all this money, they created it.

And then the community that would generally need the vaccine isn't particularly concerned with getting a hepatitis B vaccine, considering they're doing intravenous drugs. to now they're in the hole tons and tons and tons and tons of money and it's like how do we recoup this get it on the schedule that's the kind of step that personally for me i'm highly suspicious about yeah and dad i'm like hold hold on because all drugs all vaccines all medications have a cost benefit analysis just my 14 year old just got the HPV vaccine i do not want her getting HPV i don't want it like no no way now I would look at every single thing and say, what's the risk? What are the side effects, cost benefit?

And then I would talk to the family doctor, her pediatrician. With COVID, I got the shot. I didn't get the boosters because I interviewed a virologist named Vincent Rackin Yellow and he was like, don't bother. You're healthy. At the time, it was the exact same. The booster was the exact same as the actual vaccine. And he's like, you don't need to get the boosters.

your healthy, no need. And then we started to see that you were getting it anyway. And I was like, okay, we're going to get it anyway. I don't need to run the risk of getting another booster. Now, I haven't dismissed anyone that's told me they've experienced a back's injury and I'm more than willing to engage in that conversation. And I did just talk to Dr. Sabine Hazen about it. And what was super interesting, and this is really the only conversation I've had publicly about it, except Bill saying he didn't want to take it. And Sage Steele's saying she didn't want to take it and me listening to it is she said with any again with any medication there'll be side effects right and we used to call them adverse events and all adverse events get reported to the

FDA it's normal but this has been stigmatized like oh vax injury you tin had weirdo she said it's totally normal for there to be side effects and health issues but the fact that we can't even report it or it makes us crazy or look at what could possibly be happening and one of the things that she found in her research and take it and leave it she published a study on it um you can look at her background and see if you you find her to be a credible source or just throw it out entirely but i thought this was interesting she took this she's a gastroenterologist so she studies the microbes in the stool right and he took samples of stool before people got the vaccine and after they got the vaccine and one thing that she did notice is that their colony of biphidil bacterium which is this

really powerful beneficial microbes had been diminished. And people who had vaccine injuries, a theme she noticed is that they were not able, whereas you and I might get it. Let's say that that did happen to us. Let's say this hypothesis is true. We would be able to rebuild that colony of microbes in some people they were unable to. And she thinks that could play a role in some of the autoimmune issues that may have occurred as a result of the vaccine. Now, I don't know. I have no idea. I'm not a doctor. I don't understand the tech. I did get the backs. I understand why people didn't and I don't judge them. And that's officially my position and you're allowed to disagree with it. Well, I actually know. Well, I actually know when it comes to getting it. Yeah. I mean, like I said,

I did. And as far as I think we're more on the same same page than I initially said. So I apologize. Because I thought that when it came to. Don't apologize. I'm so glad you brought it up. Yeah. Well, when I came to do the last, like I, the last booster, I didn't, I didn't do because I felt, you know, the same thing. I said, I did it, and that was it. And I also, I think I got into the point where I finally was like, you know, when things were starting to finally, it looked like life was getting back to normalish, you know, and I'm just like, I remember doing stand-up comedy and have, again, and like being back up on stage and like, I'm like, I don't want to wear a mask to be in the club when I'm waiting around. And like people were stopped, stop wearing them. And I was like, I felt it, it felt like it was coming back to being normal. But it's, but it's weird because you don't know how to do it.

And I'm never, I still, I think it's so stupid that when someone is wearing a mask and they judge people until today, if someone judges them for doing it, let them do it. Who cares? Because they think it's a political statement. That's why. But it's not. Everything is, I agree with you. I don't know. Like I had just done another show with a woman who didn't want the vaccine and was telling me all the reason she thought it was bad.

And she's like, I'm going to red pill you. And I go, I don't understand why this is. a red pill conversation. Why is it not just, I'm concerned about this tech because I worry about my health and I have Lyme disease. Why is this blue or red? I cannot figure it out. Well, because we said it. We did. I think the two of us figured it out the, the beginning of the conversation. It's two teams. It's two teams. I am not on anyone's team. I'm on, I'm on my family's team. I'm on my family's team. That's the only team that I'm on. And I, for me, it's always a matter of what do I think is working best. What do I, and, and jumping back into the political side of it, I don't think that any,

and it's always been like this. I don't think that most of these politicians, I don't give a shit about me and you. I don't care about us. No, not at all. You're so right. I don't give a shit about us. But like, there are, to say there's no, to say there's no good politicians is not fair. Of course, or are. There are people who are trying, but, you know, there's only so much you can do because I was looking at, there was some clip that they showed back when it was Romney versus Obama. And... I watched that debate. Yep, I know what you're saying.

Go ahead. Walk up on stage. They shake hands and then they debate. And now today it's a matter, like, two different countries. Bloodbath. It's like, I hate you, this, you're this, you're this, you're the worst, your face stinks, like, it's like

everything. And it's like... Racist, communist. Yeah. It's... It's like, who can tell... It's like, do you remember? I'm sure you do. Howard Dean was Oh, it was this. Woo! It was it. He was done.

He was done. He was done. And like now you can do anything you want. And it's like, who can do it to the more extreme is the person that's going to win? And I don't, I just can't. It drives me, it drives me bananas. That's why I, to me, think, bringing back to that UFO thing. To me, that's the most important thing that no one, like, freaking Chuck Schumer in rounds.

Julian have a bill that they, tried the pass in December, which how the mainstream media doesn't cover this, the speaker of the house, I mean, sorry, the Senate Majority Leader is up there saying we have non-human intelligence stuff that we need to get out there. We need eminent domain. We need all these different things. And the mainstream media didn't cover that. And I don't know if you even knew about that. The fact that, but you should have. That should have been a topic that everybody knew. They're going to try to pass it again in front of the house in December and that it's a major bill that would start the disclosure process. But for some reason, the mainstream media, this is where I get into the,

I think that there's more to meet the eye when it comes to the media, that they're not, the private companies, the Lockheed Martins, all that type of stuff. I am with you entirely, though. I completely, like, I just was fighting with my poor mom last night. She's like, well, I don't understand why I'm not seeing this. And I was like, Mom, Google BlackRock, and look what percentage they own of every main television network from CNN. to Fox to ABC and it's like 18% 16% privately owned yeah yeah there's like come on you think you're getting the truth no there's more than there's so much there's there's so much more than me yeah and look this is what I'll say I just just from

talking to you for this last 40 minutes like the the fact that you can you really engaging I understand your point of view or where you're saying that I like and I appreciate that fact that you try to you listen to everybody you take both sides You have your stance. And I think that's why people should listen to your show now that you're on video. Can you let everybody know exactly if they want to find it and want to go to video where they go? Yes, you just go to YouTube, search Jillian Michaels and subscribe. And I do have Michael Schellenberger on.

He's amazing, but we weren't talking about UAPs. We were talking about W.TASA. You got to get him to talk about the UAPs. Hook it up. Let me, let me, I'd love to talk to him. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for your extra time. and I really appreciate it and we'll talk soon.

I would love that. Thank you for having me. Have a great day. Bye, Jilline. Bye. Thank you so much. I'm sorry. I kept you.

I know. I started your reps. I thought for some reason we had an hour and I went over so I totally apologize. No, I was paying attention. I was so engross. I have the best time. Thank you for everything. Hopefully we'll talk again soon.

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I mean, Tush, I mean, come on. Use those forever. Sprague's. And hymns, super helpful. And I'd like to thank Gillian. Jillian was a really, really good conversation. I had a great conversation with her. And even, like I said, I had, for some reason,

I thought she took a stance on COVID that I was wrong about. But I love the way she actually talked about. She's like, I hadn't actually ever talked about my stance on that before. And the fact that, and this is the first time. She gave her overall thoughts and everything in general. So between there. and getting into everything, it was a good conversation. I liked the kind of the points of view,

and I think that it is important that you should be able to talk to somebody, even if you don't agree with them, that you should be able to talk with them and not think that they're your enemy. You know what I mean? I don't know that much about her, Christian. She's pretty conservative? Is that you thought you...

Well, I mean, it's a more... But this is the kind of whole point. She was talking about it inside of the... She has things, and this is what we talked about. there's things that she lands on that can be pretty progressive. There's things that she lands on that can be pretty conservative.

There's things in general, and that was the point of the conversation more so than it was just about politics was the idea that like there are things like that because of you're on one side and if you agree with anything that that side says, then you're on the wrong side.

There are things that people say on certain sides that I go, oh, that's an interesting point. And then there's other things on the same side, they go, you're out of your freaking mind. What are you talking about? That's extreme. And there are extremes on both sides.

And there are people who are level-headed on sides. There are. Like there are people that you go, wait a minute. It depends on who. What side are you talking about right now, like Democrat-Republican? Topics, anything, anything. You know, there are people that, you know, are having, it's less, to me, it's less about the political side of it.

And it's more about society in general. where it's like we've gotten to this place, especially because of social media, and we talked about this, her and I, is that this has made people just so numb to how you talk to one another that you go, oh, well, I see a point of you that I don't agree with,

F you, F your mother, and I'm going to go play catch with my kids. And it's like you have no idea what you just did to that person. You probably either pissed them off or you made them feel sad. You don't care. You don't see it in their face.

But you and I had a conversation last week off air, Roxy, for about, I don't know, 30 minutes, 40 minutes. And we had a discussion. You didn't necessarily agree with some of the stuff I was saying. I didn't necessarily agree with what you said, but we saw in each other's eyes we were having a conversation. And we ended that conversation by understanding where we were coming from and realizing, okay, wait a minute. Let's talk about it. And that's what you can do inside of rational conversation. And that's my 17-year-old son.

I'm going to brag about him. He said, he goes, debates are pointless. Conversations are necessary. You don't have a debate about it. It's just you're going to be screaming in each other's faces, but having conversations need to happen. Debates are necessary if you're in a debate contest. Yeah.

If you're in a debate contest, then it's like, then it's a game. But yeah, if you're debating, it's like, no, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, it's a conversation. And even with the debate, though, Brett, it's like, as long as you can do it, And if inside that debate, you can say to yourself, well, wait a minute. That's a point that I didn't even think about. But are you just thinking about your next point to combat that without even hearing what that person said?

People don't go into a debate expecting to have their mind change. That's 100% right. It's about this is my view. This is why you should feel this way. Right. You know, two people trying to change the mind of somebody who's not going to change their mind. Well, even when I said that I was interviewing her, someone's like, oh, it looks like you're jumping on that train, huh?

I'm like, what train? I'm having a conversation with somebody. I'm having a conversation with somebody. It's like, Oh, the interview already dropped? No, when I mentioned it, I was on, I was on the air with you like a month ago, and I said she was coming on.

It's like, good luck talking. Oh, it looks like you're going down that path. I'm like, what path am I going down if I'm having a conversation with someone? It's like there, and that's the other thing. It's like, you can't have, like, I, there are so many people that I want to interview and talk to. Like, there are people that, I want to discuss and have conversations with that I haven't reached out to because I don't want the headache of hearing how I've jumped to the other side by doing this or I've done this and

I'm done this and I'm done this to that. And there's people that don't agree with. People that I'm like, I just want to see what the hell were they thinking when they said that? What the hell they were doing when they did that? Or the other side of it too is sometimes I want to talk to somebody that it's like, you know, having people on that there's people that, again, rocks, both sides that are just so on one side of things. And I'm just, to have that conversation of, well, why? But then it gets too, it gets too hairy.

Yeah, I interviewed Ben Shapiro once. We probably couldn't disagree on more things in life. Right, right. We disagree on, like, everything. It was really interesting to talk to him. I don't agree with anything he says, but as opposed to watching him and screaming at my TV at him. But you had a conversation.

I thought it was interesting to hear. Right. Where was that? Was that Collider? That was, no, I used to do this thing with this guy, Brant Pimvinnik. It was called I Could Never Be or something like that. And we would interview people who you couldn't do what they do or you don't do what they do.

Yeah, it was interesting. When was that? So this goes to it. into the point. So what year was that? I'm going to say like six years ago. Right. Because I feel that if you were going to do that today. I think I would get slaughtered. You would get slaughtered.

Why are you doing that? You'd get phone calls and DMs from people and be like... And I can't stand this guy. I can't stand this guy. That wasn't the point. It's not the point. The point is the conversation. It's like, you know, there are people that we've been on the same, like, that we know, we've been on the same show with and that you get texts from people who go, why are you doing a show with that person? Why are you doing a show with that person? What do you care?

But I have to say also, though, I do think there is validity to the fact that you don't want to give somebody a platform that you think is doing legit evil to the world. If you're fanning the flames to it, sure. But if you're asking in conversation, like, if there's certain people on there that you have out there, and you're having a conversation with somebody. And you, and it's like, and then you just change your stance on it. And you, if you've been very active, let's say that you've been very active on something in general. and you're out there saying something. And then there's somebody on the other side

who's been pretty destructive on that point of view. And you have the opportunity to interview that person. And then you do interview that person. But you don't bring up your stance on how you really feel about it. Well, then no, you should not be interviewing that person. And you shouldn't because even if, like, I do think that our society has really gone. When you hear people say extreme things,

there are people who, okay, so for example, you spoke about Bill Maher earlier. And this came out. I just wanted to make sure that this came out in the news. Bill Maher asked a Kanye West podcast interview due to anti-Semitism. So clearly what happened was Bill Maher had Kanye West on his podcast. Whatever it was that Kanye West said, Bill Maher thought was so detrimental to the Jewish community.

Right. People to hear that he cut the whole interview. Which I, yes. And there are things like that that happen. Like I'm not saying that about Gillian Michaels. No, no, I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. But like sometimes I do think it's important to.

not allow people to congregate under the form of hate by giving somebody a platform who doesn't necessarily have one. Benchpure obviously has a massive platform. He doesn't need to eat. But still, I know your point. Kind of, but CNN wouldn't have Kanye on. MSNBC wouldn't have Kanye. You know, like there are places that he just can't go and can't reach.

He's his own platform, but there are places other than Fox and himself, nobody would have him on at time. I think that's fair. And I think there's also, I think there's a difference of like, when it comes to, but I think there's also, that's in, that was in the heat of what it was going on at the moment, too, is like it's not smart for, for Bill Maher to have him on. He doesn't want to offend people. He doesn't want to. Absolutely. But let's say in five years from now, and let's say, Kanye hasn't said a word at all. And then Bill Maher wants to revisit it and then say,

then he probably will because you can still have a conversation. I think about that all the time with Louis C.K. Like, I think so whoever interviews him next, big person who's, interviews him, I'm really curious how the last five years have shaped his life. And I honestly know a little bit because I watched a special where he was talking about some of it. But there are people where you're like, okay, you didn't do something that was the most evil that you could do. So how have you grown or changed or learned? That's I always think is valuable. That's what I mean. And that's ultimately what I mean too. And I say this where it's like you just have, I just think conversation. I think that what you said is very valid, where it depends on, it always depends on the person. It depends on who

it is in general. And the other side of this, too, is like, it also, do you, do you want to talk to that person? Do you want to have a conversation? The answer for me is that I don't really want to have, like I mentioned in the beginning of this thing. Like this was, and I say this with Gillian, Jillian was a very pleasant, nice conversation, and it was an intelligent conversation, and it was a back and forth, and it was someone who was presenting themselves. I don't ever want to get into conversation and I didn't even want to talk any politics before she came on to be honest. I was like, I'm not talking politics. I don't do

that on my channel. I never do it. I don't want to do it. I don't like doing it. I don't like where it goes. I don't like what it brings out of the audience. I don't like doing it. But it was just an organic conversation and you know me, that's what I love. I love, if it goes in a place, I'm like, okay, I'm comfortable here talking

about this because this is just someone who's just talking about these things. Like the conversation is always, is this a conversation conversation that I would have if I was sitting with this person having a cup of coffee. And the answer was yes. So, anyway, I hope people like the conversation. I thoroughly enjoyed it. And I think that, you know, people will maybe see her and say, okay, look, this is someone

who just wants to talk and doesn't hold back their thoughts at all. I've got to jump. There's people waiting for me. Can you do it too of you guys? Sure. Get the hell out of here. Thanks a lot. All right, Roxy, so it is time for TV time.

So let's get into a few more topics before we, as far as television goes. I want to let you know that. And you told me you're watching some stuff. I'm caught up with Bad Monkey. This is one of the reasons why I love... I have five minutes left in last night's episode or this week. Was that this week's episode? So I guess I missed this week's episode.

I'm not caught up. I have one more episode of love. But I was almost all caught up. but I love that it's week to week. I'll be able to catch up. It's what I love what apples do. It's awesome. It took me a couple of episodes to get into the swing of things,

but I'm so glad you're watching it because I keep saying the show to people and they've never heard of it. And I don't know why this just doesn't have the buzz that it should right now. I think that Vince Vaughn carries the show. Oh, yeah. So good and so funny.

But it screams Bill Lawrence. Like it's got his, energy. I'm interested. I haven't looked at this. Remember how Krista Miller told us that she was doing the music for a lot of Bill's shows? She's doing it for this one too. Probably. I love the music on this. I keep shazming stuff. So I'm curious. I would assume. I think that's probably her deal with him too. So let me do the music. He's like sure. You know. Yeah, I want to look at that. But I love it. I love it. So it's got a good balance. It's not like ha ha ha ha funny. But no, it's it's when Vince Vaughn is on like sometimes Vince Vaugh is like I was just doing. is Vince Vaughn's stick and he doesn't have anything else to do. But when Vince Vaughn can do his Vince Von Schick with a good story, then you're cooking with gas. And I think he's doing, he's doing really, really good on this show for sure. I like this show a lot. I'm curious where it goes. The other one is I finished Coburca. I told you that season, I think I told you that, season six,

the first few. It took you so long. Well, I finished it. I finished it like two weeks ago. I watched it with my, it was because of my, my daughter who actually got me to watch it. So I, I finished that. The, what was the other one? I'm about six or seven episodes into Shogun. So there you go. I've been watching that. I can't believe that you haven't finished that.

I'm almost done with that. Well, I just watched two movies. I watched Borderlands and I just watched a freaking. Yeah, that's like four hours in life. I know. It's a lot. It's a lot. So, and then I haven't finished.

I haven't watched the boys yet. Oh, I finished the bear. I finished the bear. You haven't watched the boys? I don't know what it is I really, it's so weird I like love that show I love that show

I know I haven't had an urge to go and watch it I don't know why and I finished all generation V or whatever it was and I had no I had no I haven't been like I haven't had an urge to go I gotta watch like show gun I'm like I gotta finish it

I love the show by the way I love show gun and I just like yeah I've been watching like last night when I did I was Roxy I was when I tell you I was starving last night I was starving I was starving I was like, I went, because I got on the train last night and I headed to the city and I'm like, I'm not doing pizza again. I'm not going to do it. So I get to the train station. I didn't have time anyway because it was like one of those, it was the way that this worked last night was crazy. I get to train 545. I get there at 6.15. Hop on the subway. I'm right at the theater. Get into the theater around 6.35. Sit down, get my seat. Super relaxing. Movie ends right across the street. I go to the, I go to the,

go to the subway. Subways wait. Don't have to wait at all. Get right there. Get on the train. Get to Penn Station. And I'm like, oh, I got to get my train. It was waiting on the tracks. I was home, like in and out in the city, within three and a half, maybe four hours tops, right? So it was wonderful. But I was starving. So I get home and I just fire down a whole bunch of food. I mean, I'm just eating an insane amount of food. But I was watching. I was like, I got to watch something why I'm winding down here. because the city just gives you that energy. And I was watching and I watched Shogun. It's a hard show to watch while you're eating or doing anything, though.

Not me. Because how do you read? Oh, I can do it. I was doing it. Yeah, it was like, and it was easy. But, I mean, it'd make you sick. I told you everything I ate. Make you sick.

You just had it in the fridge? Yeah, and leftovers. I made a big turkey burrito, which was turkey, like, meat burrito, which was wonderful. It was really good. Do you mean like deli meat turkey? No, my wife makes ground turkey and she had to do that ground turkey and beans and tomatoes, hot sauce, lettuce, the whole thing. Delicious. And then I also made myself a sausage. I ate a sausage with it. And then I had a whole bunch of other stuff. I can't remember what I ate, but it was a lot. Wow. So the burrito wasn't enough. No, I'm telling you, I was starving. I was starving. I didn't

eat any lunch yesterday. So anyway. Okay, good. Remember how svelte you are? Well, that's probably because I didn't eat any lunch yesterday. Yeah, okay. All right, let's talk. Bachelorette. Yeah, they had the finale. Do you know what happened? I think, I think, like, the one guy that was, like, crooning over the whole time, she chose him, and then he told her, I'm just kidding.

So it was devastating. I mean, this was, like, maybe the hardest finale yet to watch because I've fallen in love with Jen. She came down to these two final guys. Marcus and Kevin. Marcus was the whole time honest with her. I really like you. I'm not there yet. I really like you.

I'm not there yet. Finally, she like sits him down before their last date and was like, I don't know what to do with that. Are you there yet? How do you feel? What do what? Where do we go from here? And he's like,

he says, I love you, finally. Marcus, but she lets him go because she was like, tomorrow's supposed to be engagements. You're telling me you love me the first time now. Like you seem so uncertain. Like it just, I don't think it's supposed to feel like this. So she lets him go after the whole time with that. Devin on the other hand, Dylan, Devin, Devin, I think you're right.

Devin on the other hand, all the, the, has told her since like week three, I'm in love with you. I'm in love with you. Like, he's been one of my favorites. I thought he was such a genuine kind soul. He's just been all about Jen, keeps the main thing, the main thing, like just loves her. So she decides, because he's been all in on her the whole time, for the finale, she's going to propose to him. She said, I'm not going to let him propose to me. I'm going to propose to him.

So we hear her say that. We're feeling giddy at home. Then we cut to Jesse. Jesse's like, you know, Jesse's host of the show. Jesse's like, we're going to have. actually stop there. Why are we stopping there? Because we're actually not going to show you the proposal because what happened after that is so devastating that we're just going to talk about that and then show you the proposal after. So then Jen comes on stage and is just bawling her eyes

out and is like, I don't understand what happened. We left. He wouldn't speak to me. He wouldn't try with me. He didn't look. I'm to this day, I don't know what happened. I'm madly in love with this person. Why don't they want to be with me? I'm so confused. Was it all a lie? And then he comes out onto stage and like they just were on complete opposite pages. She was like what happened? And he was just like, what do you mean? Like, why are you acting like this? You know what? Like let's just say we're both really hurt with how each other acted and move forward. And she's like, what? I don't know what happened. What are you? And it was like, who knows what happened behind the scenes? But she acted like and I

tend to believe her she has no fucking idea what happened and he is like it just didn't work out so they're both going to be on Bachelor in Paradise is what you're saying I know that he will be very clearly I think she's like

tapped right now I and you know I've heard this story a thousand times yeah but Maria was tapped from Bachelor and she was offered Bachelorette and she turned it down because she was too tapped And that's her best friend. So maybe she'll go on because she likes all the girls.

But like, oh, and then Devin, the day that he called it off started following Maria, the girl who's supposed to be The Bachelor, which is one of Jen's good friends. So the thing that I'm doing right now, as you know, is anything that's nominated for Emmys, especially as we're in September now, anything that's nominated for multiple Emmys, I'm trying to binge. Pomorow was nominated for multiple Emmys. I never watched it. It came out this year.

And I was like, okay, let me just binge this. What? I don't know what this is. Oh, yeah. How crazy is that? Yeah. But it's nominated for multiple Emmys. Kristen Wigg and Lord Dern did the show.

It is like a takes place in Florida, West Palm Beach vibes. When are we at the 60s? Okay. Something like that. Like it is a cute, a little bit funny. It took me a while to get into. I get what they were going for. But it's, I think it's being.

compared a lot to something like a white lotus because of the interactions of the people. I haven't watched the finale yet. I want to see how this closes out before I let you know whether this is super worth people's time. But I will say it was not an immediate grab the way I hoped. And I love Kristen Wig. Okay. All right. So that's Kristen Wig, I wasn't sure if it was her.

And then it looked like it, but I guess it just wanted to let the poster look weird. But all right, that's on Apple? That sounds right. Okay. All right. Next. I'm Rale. Yeah, Apple. So we already talked about Bad Monkey a bit, but this show is really good. If you're looking for a fun, detective, kind of comedy, and you love Vince Vaughn. It's like just, it's really well done. Another hit by Bill Lawrence, the guy who did scrubs and Cougar Town and shrinking and a lot of your favorite things, Ted Lasso.

It's really good one. All right. Last one. Only murders in the building came back. And I love the show. always love this show and I never don't love this show. And they also added Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Zach Galfanakis, and Naryl Streep is still making multiple appearances throughout the show. I don't know that we've ever had a show as Star-studded as this one. It's funny. I have another new clever murder premise and I, this is like becoming one of the shows of the decade. All right. So, Roxy, that's it. That's our. TV picks for this week, and I see more people have been tuning in to your TV picks and using

exactly what you've been saying there to further their TV experience. Now, I think that... They like me. They really like me. Yes, and you'll be able to do this live. Do you know what that comes from, Christian? I had to look it up the other day because I didn't know who originally had said it. That's so Grammy, I said it, and she's like, do you know who said that? And I was like, I think it was like an old-time actress sometime. And she was like... Sally Field was the Oscars. I didn't realize it came from Sally Field in the Oscars moment. How crazy is that? I didn't know that. I forget.

You're a different generation. The same way. I can't agree. That's not actually what she said, but that's what we remember. She said, it's kind of like Luke, I'm your father.

What does she say? I thought she said, you like me. You really? Yeah, it's something a little different than you like me. You really like me. That's how we remember the quote,

but it wasn't exactly that. Well, it's the same way that I didn't, I couldn't believe that you had never heard of the professional. That's crazy. I'd never heard of it. That's crazy.

So good. Yeah, it's amazing. It's one of the best movies. You know, so funny about that? It's weird how my brother just watched it, like a couple days ago. There's another fan who just watched it. Really? Yeah, it's so weird. Everybody just started watching the professional.

I was like, why is it, did it come out on Blu-ray or something? No, I don't think so. I don't know. I had never even heard of it. They told me I was watching it 10 minutes before I did. I was like, what is this? And I was like, oh, it's amazing. Hi, Natalie.

It's amazing. You never, you never saw. What a great movie to watch for the first time. It also has like 10 different titles, which is confusing. Well, I said to you last night, it was one of the main reasons that you're going to be, that you're so much fun on that because you've missed so many movies like so many good ones and it's like that's why like Samantha is going to be like I'm doing things differently than real rejects does like real rejects will always have like two people on who have never seen it like I'll be on with people

and even if I've seen it like I've starting to do that too actually are they okay because like I've somebody's rewatching somebody like like I've seen Logan but my friend Samantha has never seen it so I'm going to watch Logan with her and I haven't seen it in a while so to rewatch it would be fun but the first two that I did, I've never seen. I never saw a trap and I never saw Borderlands. I haven't seen either of those either. No. So that's, I'm very curious to

see what you think about both of them. But anyway, thanks, Roxy for joining us. Thanks to Brett who dipped out a little early. And thanks to Jillian Michaels for joining us. Thank you guys for being here today. Roxie, where can they find you? Everywhere at Roxy Stryor, I'm also in a movie called Crest. It is a limited release coming

out September 13th. I'll talk about it live next week's show, but September 10th, we have our premier Christian come back to L.A. What, to live? No, just to be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I think I'm going to come back for the Critics Choice Awards. When is it?

January. So long from now. But you'll need to get out of New York by that point. You're going to be fucking shivering. I think we're going to go. We're probably going to, like, my wife doesn't realize that she's like, she doesn't love Florida, but she's going to be, she's going to be. She's going to love Florida.

She'll love Florida in February, March. I'll tell you that. You don't live on the, East Coast and not like Florida in the winter. I know. She's not, she's, she'll, she's going to, she's going to, she's going to I don't know if we're going to Florida. I'm like, okay. Okay.

We'll see. She'll get it yet. Yeah, we're going to, we're going to go. Because my little one wants to go back to, she wants to go to Disneyland. We were supposed to go before we left. We never went. So I was like, we're not going to Disneyland, but we can go to Disney World. Yeah, for sure.

That's what we did. Yeah, that's it. All right, guys, thanks for joining us here today. Remember next week, next week, next Tuesday, I don't know if Brett's going to be here because I think might be going out of town. But Roxy and I will be live on Tuesday. So next week, the way you got it. Monday for sure, myself and Roca.

Tuesday for sure, myself and Roxy. Wednesday, for sure, myself and Steph. Thursday, TBD. Friday, capes and cows. So we got things moving here next week and we start going live. So thanks for joining us here today. Really appreciate it for Roxy Stryor and myself. We'll see you later.

Bye.