The Kristian Harloff Show - Can Matrix 4 Resurrect the Franchise? | The Big Thing

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

Matrix Resurrection teaser is out and so much to discuss! Kristian goes solo on this one and talks about all the news that he wants to. He talks Matrix, RIP Michael K. Williams, Y the Last Man series ...coming out soon! Shang-Chi box office, AEW vs WWE and taking questions from you guys!! Follow on Twitter Kristian Harloff https://bit.ly/31PePMD Mark Ellis https://bit.ly/2U1wKPa Brett Sheridan https://bit.ly/2HBltii Steph Sabraw https://bit.ly/3m0ud0z Kate Mulligan https://bit.ly/3owBneT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:24 that's the easy part of adjusting to the suburbs. Progressive Casual Key Insurance Company coverage provided in service by affiliates and third-party insurers. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the big thing. I'm going all by myself today, and it's going to be okay because I got a lot to talk about. I mean, the Matrix, the little teaser came out. Is it going to resurrect the entire franchise? We're going to talk about it. Go through some of those images that came out in the teaser alone and see what we expect to come out from this film. A lot of other stories. Why the last man, RIP to the late great Michael K. Williams. Oh man, the Rousseauz. Apparently don't want anything to do with the MCU anymore. What's that all about? We're going to talk about all of it today, and I'm going to talk about it with you directly,
Starting point is 00:01:07 and speaking about you directly, well, I got some Facebook questions. That's right. I've been really active on my Facebook page lately, and I wanted to get some questions from you guys, and I took a bunch this morning, and I'm going to address those at the end of the show. And before we get into the actual show itself,
Starting point is 00:01:25 I wanted to remind everybody, if you are going to be in the New York area, if you're going to be at near the New York Comedy Club on October 8th, well, the 7th and 8th for Mark Ellis, and I will be on the show on October 8th. You can get tickets at mark ellis. Live. Get tickets over there or go to the New York Comedy Club's website and go check that out.
Starting point is 00:01:45 And speaking of New York, we're also going to be there. You get 20% off right now if you get, if you got to act on it, we're running out of these tickets. Only have like 20 of them. There's like five or six left. But if you want to go to the Shmodown, you want to see what it's all about. You come check it out on the ninth in Brooklyn at the roulette.
Starting point is 00:02:01 We've done this show many times over. It's a lot of fun. Please go and check it out. The links for all this stuff is in the description of the video. But we are going to get on moving here because I'm super excited, man. I'm ready to start talking about The Matrix. I'm so pumped, so pumped for this show. So let's get going.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Boom. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It is the big thing. It's me, Christian Harlaw. Joining by myself on this, what the hell is it? Wednesday. I'm still thrown off by the weekend. It's a long break.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Kids had off from school. Barbecued a little bit, did all that stuff. And, you know, Monday starts to feel like Sunday. And then once you start to get into things, on Tuesday. You're like, what the hell's going on? What the hell day is it? Plus, the fact, it was my wife's birthday. We celebrated. So that's why this show came out a little late today, because normally I'll record the day before, put everything up, make sure it has all the bells and whistles. And I just, yesterday was about my wife, guys. You got to do that. Got to make sure
Starting point is 00:03:18 the wife is happy and we had a nice day. We had some Thai food. I don't know, not necessarily a big Thai food guy, but it was delicious, some curry. And we just had some dumplings, sat out in the back backyard with the family and we had a blast it was a good it was a nice birthday wasn't bad and capped it off with bachelor in paradise i know none of you fuckers watch this show and that's fine but um it's a car crash there's so much shit going on in that show it really is i mean we're not talking about that today don't worry about it you're all right trying to skim through the time codes already wednesday that's not talking about bachelor in paradise what ain't gonna happen today jack why because shit went down.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Shit went down. And the big thing that is happening at the moment, give me a second. There it is. Boom. Kenner Reeves, coming back is Neo and the Matrix. It's perfect. Nice and loud.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It's good. It's good. As we start this fucking show. I was going to stop recording. I was going to stop. But I figured, let's get the sound effects rolling. Let's really let it move. Maybe next time the guy can stick
Starting point is 00:04:32 the fucking router right through the window and blasted into the microphone. That'd be great. Nice sound effect. Or I can just lie and say that that was my, that's my new sound effect. That's my new robot. It's the, it's the, it's the fucking router. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's my co-host for the rest of this show.
Starting point is 00:04:50 You think you hated the Schmobot? Welcome to the Router. On today's news, and there's no, and there's no monetary benefit to it whatsoever. At least the, the, the robot would come in and say something. I'm stupid and then he'd leave you $20 and take off. This fucker just comes in, places his balls on the table and takes off. Scumbag. Scumbag Router.
Starting point is 00:05:12 It's the kind of mood I'm in. You ready for this shit? I'm not. All right. I was going to stop the show right there. I was about to stop recording. But I said, you know what? Let's just go with it.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I got a bowl of oatmeal. A bottle of water. I'm probably not going to drink for the whole show. Because if I do, it would take too long of a pause. And I don't like that when that happens. happens. It happens too often in radio. People are going, hey, you know what? Yeah, that's what's happening on today's show. So, you know, stick around and we'll figure it out. Talk. Say something. Shithound. You know what I'm talking about it anymore. All right, listen, Matrix came out and it dropped. Well,
Starting point is 00:05:54 the teaser dropped. People are pumped about this movie. It makes a lot of sense why people will be pumped about it, right? And this, by the way, I took some of these screenshots. I want to tell you it was the Hollywood Reporter. I'm sorry if it wasn't. But I was going through and I was looking at some of these images and watch it. There's so many different sites that the breakdowns of this little teaser trailer. And I know people are asking if I was going to do a reaction. I'm going to do reaction to the main, to the main trailer, not the teaser. So anyway, there's a couple of different images throughout it. I mean, this one is just Neo walking around. There's a coffee house called Simulets Shining in the background. There's another one here.
Starting point is 00:06:32 A reprise of one of the first shots from Trinity. So I don't know if that's Trinity yourself, but someone with a big braid. And I'll get into what all this means in a second, right? So that's the Trinity shot. There's Neo looking like he's jumping off a building here.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And I'll tell you why I'm getting really excited from looking at all these images in just a second. But then so this guy, Jonathan Groff, and he's got that thing that happened in when Agent Smith was, you know, interrogating them in the first one. So this is the actress from Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Her name escapes me at the moment, but I remember her being pretty badass on Game of Thrones, and she seems to be part of, like, the resistance. And, you know, if she was in the first movie, she'd probably be on Morpheus' crew, right? So it seems like in that particular one. And then this dude is the same guy here, Abdul Mateen,
Starting point is 00:07:29 he's this guy gives me like a Terminator type feel because look the same thing by the way you look at that mirror thing that's happening it's this is the same thing that neo is going through also because this is this is somebody with a braid looking in the mirror that's not not the same guy so this there's some quantum leap shit going on and speaking of quantum leap you got this thing right so there's neo and he's got the and there's this old dude so this is very quantum leap ask for people who didn't know what that show is Scott baccula was a show and in like it was like the late 80s, early 90s, and he would time travel, but he would, we would see him as Scott Bacula, but when he looked into the mirror, he was somebody else, right? And I think they also did that
Starting point is 00:08:09 in Wonder Woman 84, which was the big controversy and people were losing their fucking shit over. But this is, this seems to be a new gimmick that's going to be happening in the Matrix, because it happens with Neo here and it happens with this cat, Abdul Matine. And then you, I think this is like the beginning of it, right? This is probably the placement. So what I'm getting from all of this so far from what I've seen on all those images, it seems very Terminator 1 meets Matrix 1 is what it looks like to me. And who knows, my opinions might change overall completely once I see the full trailer. But it seems like they're going back to basics.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And what I would assume is that the Wachowski's looked at some of the criticisms from two and three because to give a breakdown to you guys how I felt if you've catching me for the first time or haven't really heard me talk about the Matrix that much. The first Matrix was one of my favorite movies of all time. Like many people, was expecting, was really just looking forward to episode one that year. And then what's this movie coming out in The Matrix?
Starting point is 00:09:17 What the hell is this? Matrix comes out and just steals everybody's hearts, right? And it's just like, it's so creative, so clever, so revolutionary inside of the technology itself. And when it happened, you know, it was a phenomenon. So I watched it recently. It still holds up. It's still great. I mean, everybody stole the bullet time shit after they did it. But the lore, all of it. And the animatrix, by the way, is another one that people don't talk about enough that it really ties in very well. And it is canon to the overall series. And it plays into how Neo
Starting point is 00:09:50 meets that kid and the second one. The second one I didn't hate. The third one made the second one worse. is the problem. So when I saw the second movie, I remember seeing it, people were let down by the second one. I remember saying to whoever the hell I saw it with that day, I'm like, well, let's wait, because the third one really delivers,
Starting point is 00:10:06 this is a set-up movie. The second one's a setup, minus the stupid rave thing. I mean, that's, whatever. It's not that bad. It's set it up. The third one, though, I got to be honest,
Starting point is 00:10:17 I may be seen the third one or two times, and I don't, I remember the stupid stuff that, you know, Neo and Trinity both die or whatever. happens and the 75,000 Agent Smiths and it got so repetitive and dumb that I remember really being let down and then I remember saying after I saw the third one, okay, well then everyone who gave me
Starting point is 00:10:37 how they didn't like the second one, it's more warranted now. I understand that. But I think this is one of those movies. There's a lot of movies sometimes that if they wait too long, like Zoolander, the fuck out of here, Zoolander. Nobody wants to see Part 2 75 years later. but and I say that because I don't I didn't care about the first one either and a lot of people love Zoolander but I don't know why Zoolander is the first one I think of but there's a lot of movies sometimes that after a while it's like it's too late some people think that avatar is going suffer from that right like it's too late you don't need it this is not that thing this is one of those movies I think because it's had a bit of a layoff people are excited to see because
Starting point is 00:11:20 you clearly from these images you can change the rules a little bit from what happens. And if Neo is somehow able to download himself into other beings inside of the Matrix, then it could work and they have to set it up the right way. It looks like, it does look like they're going back to the roots of the first one and don't overcomplicate things and spend more time in the Matrix. That's what was so fun about the first one. There's a lot of time spent in the Matrix.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And don't break the rules and make two. people too powerful and and the idea was so fun about the first movie, in my opinion, was the fact of like the, what is the reality and what is, what is this facade and play with that more and introduce new characters. The characters that were introduced in both two and three was a lot of fun, you know, there were a lot of different characters. People don't talk about Roy Jones Jr., by the way, in the second movie. I liked Roy in that movie.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Anyway, so out of all this stuff that you see and going back to the M. stuff here, you know, like this image alone is pretty badass, right? And it's, and don't you get that Terminator feel like when the Terminators would like show up? Because both he and Neo are doing the same thing. I would assume this guy, I don't know, maybe he's a good guy. I don't know. I think he might be the bad guy. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:46 But I don't know how involved Neo is going to be. How involved you guys think Neo is going to be overall? I would be disappointed if he's not involved heavily, but are they going to make him? The main guys are almost going to serve like the Oracle. Because I can see him doing that. I can see him doing the, you know, he's more like the all-powerful force that helps out
Starting point is 00:13:10 and teaches the new guy, which might be, which might be Abdul Matin. So I don't know. But I like what I'm saying. I like the potential. I was never, I mean, I think that everybody is looking at the movie going, oh, man, I hope it's good. Nobody's going all, man, two and three were so horrible that you know the third one's going to be, or the fourth one's going to be bad.
Starting point is 00:13:41 You just know it. I don't think people, I don't, I don't, that's not what I'm reading. I haven't seen a lot of that. I've seen more hopeful. I've seen more people really excited that this is, that there's a chance to resurrect. and I think that by calling it resurrection, I think that they're kind of, you know, saying we get it. We understand.
Starting point is 00:14:03 We got to change this thing up. We're going to resurrect the franchise here. And that's exactly what they're doing. They're going to, if this movie hits, if this movie hits the way that the first one did, it can play. And if Keanu Reeves ain't a lucky charm, I don't know who is.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Because this dude, besides being just like one of the more likable guys in the industry, he's just, um, he just, there's like moments he'll be out of the limelight. And then when he pops back in, it's massive. Look at John Wick. Like, who doesn't, like John Wick one, two, three. Who doesn't want to see more John Wick? That's, that's crazy too.
Starting point is 00:14:40 He's like, oh, enough already. Nobody's saying enough already about John Wick. More, more, more, more, more, more. That's what I want to happen with Matrix. Because if Matrix hits, if this one resurrects the franchise, give me a Matrix TV show. Give me Matrix 5 and 6. If it plays right, if you set it up right. But what I hope doesn't happen, which is certainly possible,
Starting point is 00:15:00 is that they do in moving and it doesn't work, then you're going to start hearing people going, all right, well, you gave it a shot. It's just, it's over now. Because Terminator, speaking of Terminator, that's where we are with Terminator. People were excited to try to get Terminator back on track, and they just couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:15:16 They tried too many different things and things that just didn't work, and the series just, for me, Terminator, I think you get one and two. that really work. There's some moments at three. There's some moments and some of the other ones, but moments. Good movies,
Starting point is 00:15:29 there's only two good Terminator movies. And what I'd love, I'd love to start saying that. There's two good Matrix movies. There's two great Matrix movies. There's one, okay, one, and there's one crap one. That's a wash.
Starting point is 00:15:42 That's good. So, fingers crossed. We'll talk more about it once we see the trailer, because the trailer's coming out. At this time, I mean, I think it's coming out tomorrow, but this should be evergreen in general. So you can just listen to this and go back after the trailer and see if I was right about any of that stuff. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:16:01 But, and I wonder, you know, how they're going to play Trinity into this because, you know, she dies. Neil, it's easier to just say, you know, he's all living. He's able to, he's, because we know from the mythology, he's been around forever and he keeps popping back up. So he pops back up again. He figures a way to reboot himself inside of the, resurrect himself and get into the system again. So he's an easy one. But how do you explain Trinity, right?
Starting point is 00:16:31 Or do they go back and, is it, you know, can they go back in time in how the matrix works? I don't know. I don't necessarily think it's a good or a bad idea. It's a matter of how do they explain it? As long it's not too complicated, I think it'll work. I think it'll work. 92% of households that start the year with Peloton are still active a year later. 92% because of a bike?
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Starting point is 00:17:36 would really like to talk about it's not it might be stuff you don't want to talk about it might be stuff that uh you know is it was covered by somebody else a while ago it might be stuff that or I might miss stuff that everybody's covering because the honest truth is I don't give a shit. This is a different time in my life of the way that I'm doing shows now. And it seems like you guys are responding to it because I wanted to, when Mark Ellis and I started
Starting point is 00:18:05 the Shmoh's No back in 2008, the whole idea of that was, all right, after you go see a movie, you go out and whether you're grabbing a bite to eat, you grab a beer, you're standing outside, talking to your friends and you're just shooting the shit. And that was the premise of Shmos. And that's what we did.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And that's what we did on our show in general and on the Shmoh's No Show and all that. And somewhere down the line, I think it was lost a little bit. I think it was lost because of, you know, you get everybody I feel, and I think I've talked about this many times, whether people feel that they are taking movie news too serious or whether it's, people think that they're reporters or critics when they're not critics or people who watch movies, there's a difference, and I've just gone over this between critics and people who watch movies,
Starting point is 00:18:49 there's a difference. There's a difference. I've made it very clear. I find myself a movie, like, you know, I review movies, some, you know, when I see them. Would I call myself a critic? No, I don't analyze film the way like a Bibiani does or Alonzo Duraldi does. It's not, I didn't, I don't have the experience of those guys, too, so I wouldn't call myself that. And I think that that got lost somewhere, somewhere for us. And, um, And I wasn't having a lot of fun doing that stuff. And then when I discovered the Shmowdown, that's really my passion and having a lot of fun
Starting point is 00:19:23 and being able to combine the movies and performance and all that. And then, you know, this show came along. Because this show, and I've said it many times, I've been very active on my Facebook page. And as I've said, by the end of this show, I'm going to take some of your questions that you guys put there. And I started getting very active on that page. So if you're used in Facebook and you find my public page,
Starting point is 00:19:43 please go over there and follow me. I'm trying to post every day and interacting with you guys every day. So, and I want to do, when I do shows like this, I will put questions, a Q&A type thing out there and choose some of them and talk about that at the end of the show. But I've said it on a lot of the post that right now, this show is my favorite show, I think, minus the Shmodown. It's very different to Shmodown from this, but this is my favorite show I think that I've ever done. it's a combination of all of the things that we've done in the past. Like when Mark Ellis is here and Kate and Brett are here, Kate and Brett are just having a conversation,
Starting point is 00:20:22 shooting a shit laughing when Ken was on here, and I was talking to Ken and we were bullshitting, and there was no, you have to talk about this, you have to do this, you have this time, you've got to hit this, you got to, it was in general. So like combined with all the stuff that we've done in the past, and Katie Sankoff's coming on. She's going to be on Monday.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I'm so looking forward to that. And I don't want to say interview. I'll say conversation. I'll say conversation. Kate's going to be on with me. We're just going to talk. And I've also listened to you guys too. I'm looking on redesigning the studio because people have asked, how can we don't get a two shot?
Starting point is 00:20:57 Because it drives me nuts. Sometimes people are like, oh, you're still doing Zoom? No, we're not in Zoom. Everybody's talking to each other. We're here. The problem is that we don't have that long shot so you can see the full table. And it's the reason why it's a fucking mess over here. There's a it's it's wires and tripods and all this shit.
Starting point is 00:21:14 So I reached out to Thad Williams and, and Jake Lieberman, who's producer of at Skybound. And we're going to redesign this whole studio and give us time. But what I want to do is I want to get a, obviously the one shots, but then I want to get a larger table. I'm going to redesign this whole thing because I want to put, I want to what you guys have really inspired me even more, so the the love that you've given this show the comments the being as interactive as you have sharing
Starting point is 00:21:46 it going on facebook and talking me over there like it's about community it always has been so we're going to continue on and and do that i don't know how long this show is going to go today so if i get if i get long winded i get long winded but uh here we go we're going to do some more news matrix obviously uh we'll be talking about matrix a little bit more i think on um i mean probably on Friday because it's a it the big trailer is going to drop and maybe it'll be a lot more all right so the other thing I wanted to talk about which sucks is Michael K. Williams I was bombed man when they um when when when this news came out Michael K Williams I mean I knew him from the wire obviously he's been a lot of other things he's using the Sopranos too by the way just saw him recently in the jacky
Starting point is 00:22:34 April Junior episode. But he was a phenomenal actor, man. Just brought some solid, solid performances. I never watched Boardwalk Empire, but I'll tell you, I'm probably going to go back and watch it now. He was supposed to be in solo
Starting point is 00:22:50 when Lord Miller were doing it. I would like to see Matt. What happened there? But he was confirmed in New York. He was found dead on Monday inside of his Brooklyn residence. He was on World Walk Empire, Night of, Lovecraft Country, and he was the co-lead on Sundance TV's Happened Leonard. He reoccurred on ABC's alias and NBC's community.
Starting point is 00:23:14 He starred in various films from Inherent Vice and 12 years of slave to Red Sea Diving Resort, Triple Nine, Gone Baby Gone, and The Road. He scored three Emmy Nods for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a limited series or movie and is currently an Emmy contention for Outstanding Supporting Actor for Lovecraft Country. In addition to his acting, Williams hosted and executive produces the 2016 Vicerland DocuSeries Black Market with Michael K. Williams. Second season was mostly completed prior to his death. That comes from, oh, the source was variety, but Dark Horizons also aggregated it. But yeah, man, I was really, this one hit me. This one really hit me.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I've always been a really big fan of his, and I always heard really great things about him. I don't want to get into his personal tragedies and life. And what happened? It was just sad, you know? It just sucks. You never know what people are going through. You never know what people are going through. And you always assume,
Starting point is 00:24:14 especially with people in the public, because public figures, you see them, whatever it is their role that speaks to you, you relate to them in one way or another, and you don't know the person in general. You don't know what they're going through. You don't know. You know why they spoke to you.
Starting point is 00:24:30 You know what their performance did. You know what it was? I mean, hell, man. His performance, I mean, everyone right away, I mean, the guy's been in so much stuff, but right away they referenced The Wire. And he wasn't like the main character. He was a supporting character, and he was Omar,
Starting point is 00:24:47 but it was, it's what he brought to that role. And what he did, and his performance was so strong. He was just such a strong actor. A lot of pain, you know, and a lot of great actors. I right away, I think of Philip Seymour Hoffman, you know, Same thing. Great, great actor. A lot of personal demons, man.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And I've obviously have had my, I've had my share tragedy in my life. And personal demons, they get you. And you just got to, you got to have compassion. And that's why I always say to people when they're looking at the, when you're out on Twitter, moving around and you get mad at somebody and you tweet something out. just think about it man think about it i was i wasn't very open and honest for a while about a lot of the shit going on in my life and i think when i was on that facebook page i did the same thing someone
Starting point is 00:25:44 someone asked me straight up they said look man i got to be honest with you i'm not i haven't tuned into your stuff because that whole galaxy's edge thing kind of turned me away and i said i get it brother i understand that completely and i said i haven't really been open and honest about it but let me share it with you and i'll and i'll tell you whether or not you want to watch or not that's up to you but like i i feel that i should be honest because i kept it quiet for so long is that during that time my life, I think it was about a year beforehand. My brother had passed away. My brother was 37 years old.
Starting point is 00:26:11 He passed away. And, you know, I carried a lot of anger with me for a long time. I took it into work. I took it everywhere I went. And I shouldn't have been to work that day. I shouldn't have been, and I definitely shouldn't have taken them on the air. No doubt about it. Had a bad day.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Cameras were on. People who didn't like me, let me have it. And deservedly so. Shouldn't have brought it into work that day. It just, you know, it's, it's, it's, um, sometimes you got to talk about things and I didn't talk about things. I paid for it. It's part of it.
Starting point is 00:26:39 It happens. You know, obviously regret not being able to chill and say maybe today is not a good day to go to work. You're feeling angry. You're feeling upset. Breathe. Take some time off. Someone said the same thing. Someone said, hey, you should have taken some time off 100%.
Starting point is 00:26:57 You're just not thinking about that moment because you're like, go, go, go. Maybe my head is in a, is, you know, maybe if I focus on other stuff, this won't come out. If I just focus on something else, then I can put it all aside and I can push it, push it away. And you can't. You can't. It'll, it'll, it, it, this, you know, boils and then,
Starting point is 00:27:18 and then you're on the air screaming about theme parks. It's part of it. Happens. But, um, but, but nonetheless, man, personal demons and stuff that, that happens. You got to, you got to have compassion for people in general. And, um, and, um, and, I really, thoughts and prayers go out to Michael K. Williams and his family. It was a bummer.
Starting point is 00:27:41 It was a bummer to hear that. But all right, let's move on once more RIP to the great Michael, P. Williams. Moving on here, this was something I found interesting. I saw this. I had no idea that this was going on. Let me find this. It's Rousseau Brothers story. They were, apparently they were offered another movie inside the MCU.
Starting point is 00:28:04 of Civil War and the freaking Captain America, the second one, the Winter Soldier, and then Infinity War and Endgame. So you do what you can to get these guys back. So here's what happened.
Starting point is 00:28:22 This is from Dark Horizons again. In the wake of Scarlet Johansson's Black Widow lawsuit over Disney switch from a theatrical only to a hybrid day and day release, it appears the move may have upset another working relationship. The Wall Street Journal reports that Avengers Endgame directors Joe and Anthony Russo were in talks to return to the MCU. However, negotiations hit an impasse amid the Johansson dispute.
Starting point is 00:28:44 This reportedly led the director duo to harbor their own concerns about the new film's release model and their potential compensation. What film that it might have been is unclear, although they have expressed interest in a potential Wolverine film or a Secret Wars movie. Johansen's lawsuit is expected to go ahead with arbitration unlikely. The Arusos aren't necessarily big screen-only hardliners like Patty Jenkins recently revealed she was. The pair were released the Apple TV plus film Cherry earlier this year, and they've wrapped the mega budget, the Grey Man for Netflix. They also produced extraction franchise for the streamer. Uh, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:24 So this Scarlett Johansson thing was a fucking mess. It was a mess. Handled terribly. handled terribly. And I, you know, I talked about, who's a, I think I was talking about was Steph. We talked about this whole thing. To me, it's, I think that it's very easy for us. Not unlike the conversation we were just having five minutes ago, it's easy for us as a public to see Scrawl at Johansson who makes millions of millions of dollars. You go, oh, stop complaining. You're being selfish. Yeah, but you also got to sit down in the business chair and say, well,
Starting point is 00:29:57 well, what happened here? Because if she was told one thing and then they decided, well, we're just going to do this. It's shitty. You know, I don't know, I don't know the full extreme, the details of all. I'm not going to pretend that I am. She said, they said, I have no idea. But Kevin Feige apparently wasn't happy about it. Rousseau's not happy about it.
Starting point is 00:30:25 The deals in general on how they're going to make it work. when it starts to bleed into losing, if you look at it in a sports analogy, two guys who won you multiple championships and probably the biggest championships of your career with endgame and Infinity War. Because those movies had to work. If you don't close out those phases with that version of end game, and end game sucks and it's a badly directed film, I mean, look what happened with Ultron, right?
Starting point is 00:30:55 Ultron, I watched Ultron recently. It's not as, I think, bad as everybody gives it. I remember seeing it originally, not thinking it was great, but watching back, it's fine. But it's certainly not something that I want to close out. Right. So watching the Russo brothers do that. My wife's coming in to work out now on the back, so I haven't switched over the camera. So this is what happens when you do a show by yourself.
Starting point is 00:31:22 So you guys are going to watch my wife work out. Oh, you're not. They might, they can hear you, by the way, the microphone. I'm leaving. You're going to leave, yeah? Sorry. Well, listen. I know, but I didn't know what you were doing.
Starting point is 00:31:33 This is the conversation I'm having with my wife and you guys are part of it. See, anything can happen on this show. Do you want me to switch the camera around for a second? I can actually do something. I can give them this. Here, you know what I'll do? I'll try this. So I'm going to give you guys this picture here of the Russo Brothers again.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And I'm going to try to maneuver the camera over here. Where's the damn dog? I don't know where the dog is. Sleeping over there. So this is what happens when you have a studio in your house. Let's see. Let's try that. Did that work?
Starting point is 00:32:01 I don't know. All right. You should be good. Yeah, you should be good. Okay. So, anyway, with the Rousseau's, go that way. Unbelievable. You won't be on camera.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I don't think so. Go ahead. Let's see. Go in the shot. Yeah, see? And I do live to tape, so it's not going to be edited out at all. You're good. You're good. All right. No, please don't sing. Okay. So anyway, with the Rousseau's, this is going to be a bad move for Marvel. It's not a good move for Marvel at all to not get these guys back. And I'm curious what you guys think. Okay. Let's now move on over to the next story here. And this is a big one. I'm going to switch it up a little bit. I'm not going to go into the movie news anymore. I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:33:02 going to go straight into wrestling. And not everybody is a big wrestling fan, but it's a massive story. Because if you remember when wrestling was mainstream, really mainstream, I mean, obviously WWE has been around for a long time, billions of dollars, and they make a lot of money. But you remember in the late 90s or hell even in the 80s when it was WCW versus WWF at the time in the 90s, it was massive. And competition always breeds way better product. and it's happening again.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Seampunk made his debut. There was this big thing when Seampunk came back. And if you haven't seen my interview with him, by the way, that's on the channel right now. You should, the link is in the description. It was right. It was like a week before. It was like a week before he debuted in A.E.W.
Starting point is 00:33:50 So he makes the announcement, he comes out, he does this thing, and it's massive. It goes mainstream. ESPN's covering it. I mean, I know they cover wrestling anyway, but it's everywhere. And people were talking about it. And it was really good for heels,
Starting point is 00:34:02 the show on stars. that is or that it's out now and it's right before his episode came out and he's really great in the show but then WWE then I think botched Becky Lynch's return stupid the way that they did that and also screwing over one of their their new talent on the way that they did it by it with a squash really stupid and then Brock Lesnar comes back which I thought was interesting but I put out a poll for people and I said well who's got the better product right now and it was a resounding like 79 or 80% for AW and you look at this all-out pay-per-view that they just did and this is massive as far as entertainment goes whether you're into wrestling or not Sam Punk came back he did this um
Starting point is 00:34:50 he did this return he had his match it was a great match he he's having fun again that's scary for w-db i can tell you that right now that this guy's having fun and promoting he's a he's a national promoter he talked about it on different shows that he just was not having fun at WWE. They were running them into the ground. And AW, the common thing that I'm getting from a lot of people is that AEW is what you want if you want to watch what wrestling used to be was in a pure wrestling show.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And WBS has said as much, we're just sports entertainment. And they're not, and it's more of a show. they're not wrestling. I think it was the quote that someone said that they had said at one point. So if that's the case and more pure wrestling, because this is something I've been looking forward to a while. And I'll be completely honest with you guys, I haven't been watching as much. I did watch a lot of this AEW stuff. And I don't remember what his name is now. Brian Danielson used to be Daniel Bryan.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I think he comes back. Adam Cole comes in. Ruby comes in. They're just pounding. This isn't like WCW back in the day when they were getting. like Randy Savage and the older guys. It's similar, but these guys still got it in the tank. And to be completely honest, I think Sam Punk's probably around the same age as those guys were back at that time. But this is very reminiscent of that. And AEW is starting to make a move, a big move. And this was a turning point, I think, because it was never really a war.
Starting point is 00:36:28 A man, Chris Jericho is a smart dude. He knew it right away, had the conversations. and he's been on both sides. He's been through the WCW ringer. He's been through the WCW ringer, and now he plays back into this thing, and he saw it, he saw it quick. So, and it obviously helps that.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I read Eric Bischoff's book recently, by the way. I think AEW has a way better chance of succeeding the WWE more so than WCW did, because reading all the stuff that was going on during that time, with Eric Bischoff and what he had to do inside of, like, Turner's, Turner supported them, but there was a lot of executives that didn't get it. Tony Kahn is the guy, and he's a wrestling mark.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Like, money plus that mentality and trusting the wrestlers, ooh, man, that's, that's, that's, that's, it's getting spicy. It's getting spicy. It's getting spicy in the wrestling world. But I know that not everybody is a, wrestling fan and I don't know how everybody in general is a football fan but if you are a football fan
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Starting point is 00:39:31 We got some more stories. We got some more stories. Lots of good stories coming out, too. And obviously, so if you want to check out that interview with Sam Punk, by the way, it is on the channel now. Some other stuff. Chang Chi Box Office,
Starting point is 00:39:45 I'm not getting into the politics of it all, guys. It's like, you know, if you think the movie did shitty, then you think the movie did shitty. If you think the movie did great, you think the movie did great. I'm going off of what they say. To me, it looks like a hit. It looks like a hit to me as far as where we are in the world.
Starting point is 00:40:01 what they're doing, how they're setting it up. Let me get in some of these numbers here what the projection is overall. I mean, it looks like they said set for like a 90 million holiday hall. If you start comparing it to $150, $200 million when theaters are in full swing, it's silly. This is a massive win for this time when people aren't going to the movies.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Shanky and the Legend of the Ten Rings continues to surpass expectations at the, let's see, the Labor Day weekend, higher than expected. The film is now on track for a 90 to 92 million domestic opening in his first four days of release following a three-day total of 75, the film dropping just 2% from Saturday to Sunday. Demographics-wise, the film is seeing an 18% turnout of Asian-American audiences around double the 7% and 9% regular average for a Marvel studio film. In addition, the film has amassed 56% percent. point two million overseas in key markets around the world, mostly in Europe,
Starting point is 00:41:04 and that's with large markets like Australia and parts of Asia, mostly out of commission. And there is no China release date set as yet. That comes from deadline through Dark Horizons. Yeah, I didn't understand. I mean, you look at those numbers, you look at what they're saying, and there's the audience in general that's coming out for it. To say that the movie didn't do well, I don't understand it. But then again, I don't understand a lot of the shit that goes on in the internet
Starting point is 00:41:26 and people just look in a fight with each other. I don't know. If you look at overall where we are in the world, what's happening with theaters and how many people and limited amounts of theaters and the marketing in general has it been as phenomenal, we will say, as other Marvel products, in my humble opinion, yet it's still pulling out these types of numbers.
Starting point is 00:41:49 And the numbers might be that might be an all report. I have no idea. I'm wondering how that sounds, by the way, the treadmill. I can hear it. I don't know if you guys can hear it. It's, uh, let's start locking my door. But this is,
Starting point is 00:42:04 this is the, someone, someone actually asked that one of the questions about is a, a full-on studio, but it sounds, it sounds like the, the garbage compactor in Star Wars episode four. And the beauty is that my wife has no idea I'm talking about her right now,
Starting point is 00:42:17 because she's, um, she's got her headphones in. So she's here right now. She's like, she's walking. And it just sounds like, that's what it sounds like to me.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I don't know if you guys can hear it. To me, it's picking it up. I'm sure you'll comment about it if you do. But that's what we're doing here on today's show. It's a very intimate show with me and you, the thousands of you watch. A lot of people, by the way, didn't know that this show is available on podcast form.
Starting point is 00:42:47 People said, does it help if I get it on podcast form? Please get it on podcast form. If you're watching right now, please get this on podcast form. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, whatever you can do, get it on podcast form. because Draft Kings and our great sponsors that we have, it all becomes because of those downloads. As I've mentioned before, YouTube, they don't help. Not really.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I got to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. You know, the YouTube's, they want you to put on the content and whatnot, but if you put on too much content and it doesn't do very well, well, then they traumatize your other videos. And so you've got to make a whole new channel. You make that channel and you monetize that with bullshit ad revenue. So I'll tell you what you got to do there.
Starting point is 00:43:37 You get to the podcast form. You put it on, not for nothing, but you put it on the podcast. You listen to it in the gym. Or if someone else is talking to you and you don't want to hear the mouth, you listen to us. That's what you do. That's it. Let's see if there's some other stuff. So that's the Shang-Chi stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:56 It's a lot of great stuff going on in the news over the last week. or so. This one is pretty cool with Venom. Venom's moving on October 1st. It's my birthday. It's my birthday. They're moving it again. But I saw a few different critics tweet now and about because there's other things going on in the world still. You can't, a lot of people aren't comfortable going to the theater yet, right? So the streaming links have stopped, have, have ceased from the studios to to people who are reviewing movies
Starting point is 00:44:37 and they're just offering up theaters. I haven't. I haven't gone. I've turned away quite a few movies and I do want to see this one. I didn't really love the last venom. I've got to watch it again. But I am curious about this one. Tom Hardy's one of my favorite actors
Starting point is 00:44:55 and that photo alone is pretty badass. I've got to tell you. Looks good. I don't know what they're going to do with this movie. And I think that there's ways now, I think that this is one of the things that that No Way Home is going to do. It's going to open up the possibility of combining all these different universes. Oh, and speaking of which, I'm excited to announce this. So if you guys have been paying attention to Sith Council,
Starting point is 00:45:21 if you have it, it's our Star Wars show that we do here every Friday. We've been doing rewatch episodes where we're going through every single episode, every single theatrically released, live action film. And just talking about the movies in general, but really the main focus is to see how it's going to tie in, if at all, to any of the upcoming series. So we've just finished Revenge of the Sith,
Starting point is 00:45:45 and we're moving on to Solo this Friday. But it got me thinking that we should do it on the big thing for other movies, because it seems to be pretty popular with you guys, and you guys have been liking it. So I talked to Coy, Janjaro and Winston Marshall. we're going to do a full rewatch of all of the Spider-Man movies. Probably start sometime in October leading up to the release of No Way Home. So hopefully you guys are excited about that.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Would you let me know in the comments? If that sounds like something that you'd be interested in watching, it's just going to be the very same thing that we're doing for Sith Council. Watching the movie, breaking it down, seeing if there's things we missed, are there ways that it'll tie into No Way Home now that we know that there's certain, you know, from what we've seen out of the trailer?
Starting point is 00:46:28 So let me know. And then as far as Venom goes, being released October 1st, I'm like in October 1st. It's still not my, there's no chance you're going to, I'm still torn on what I'm going to do on October 1st. Am I going to wake up in the morning and get myself a got myself good and sit down and watch many Saints in Newark first thing in the morning and then review it for you guys? Or am I going to take that day for myself and sit down. chill out, have the big Ziti that my wife said she's going to make me for my birthday, grab a glass of wine and kick back in my robe and watch the movie at night. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Or do I do a combination of both? Do I, wake up in the morning, sit in the studio, kick back, watch the movie here, review it, put it out, And then eat some big Zidi, watch it again with my wife. I probably wind up doing that because, oohie bullshit. I'm definitely going to want to watch it again. I'll probably want to watch it again the same night.
Starting point is 00:47:42 So give me your thoughts. What do you think? All right. You've got to keep on moving here because there are a lot of other things I want to talk about. It's why the last man movie, or sorry, TV show coming out on Hulu. I'm not, I've never been, as you guys have been, have known for following me for maybe, maybe you're brand new and just found me recently,
Starting point is 00:48:05 but if you've been following me, I have never been like the comic book or graphic novel guy, right? However, the one graphic novel, there was, well, I read Watchman back in the day, but the one that I really, um, loved was why the last man. I remember when I was working at Warner Brothers, buddy mine gave me a whole book, a box full of comic books,
Starting point is 00:48:29 but Eric Olson, it gave me this whole just bunch, and I think Watchman was probably in there also, but like, just classic stuff. And I remember looking at this one and going, and let me check it out, because I remember at the time I was trying to dabble in like a sci-fi comic that I wanted to try to see if I could write. But I read this thing, and I fell in love with it,
Starting point is 00:48:48 and I kept wondering if they were ever going to do like a movie, and then there was rumors of it, and there was Shaila Boof at one point. I don't think he was going to be in the movie or a TV show. I don't know. But here's the movie. Here's the, here's what they, what they're saying about this show, because I saw the trailer for it. And I didn't even, I, I, it was very similar to many saints and newer, where I had remembered when they talked about doing the movie and they talked about all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:11 But then the trailer came out. I was like, oh, yeah. And it was the same thing. I was watching that nine perfect strangers or whatever the hell that show was. I couldn't finish it, by the way. But, but we started watching it. And during the trailer, during the commercial, excuse me, the trailer for why the last man popped up. and I didn't know what it was at first.
Starting point is 00:49:29 And I went, oh, yes, yes. And I'm so excited to see it. My wife is actually pretty intrigued by it, too. So that's going to be like the next show we're going to watch. But this is what they said about the show in general. Eliza Clark, who is the showrunner on FX on Hulu's upcoming TV series adaptation of the comic, Why the Last Man, says her vision of the series will see it clock in at around five seasons. I love that already because it's a pure design.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I love when showrunners have a design of how long the show should go, as opposed to, well, it's doing popular, let's just keep going. Brian K. Vaughan and Pia Gawarra's original comic follows Yorick Brown, the sole survivor of a mysterious plague that kills every mammal on Earth with a Y chromosome. Speaking with Polygon, Clark says to fully translate the 60-issue comic for the screen, it'll be five or six seasons. That's what I'm thinking. And then adds five more specifically as an ideal to shoot for. Without giving anything away, the comic is a great template,
Starting point is 00:50:26 but the show will have its own twists and turns. Generally speaking, I feel like television is best at about five seasons. I am with you. The first season will begin with the cataclysm and then two weeks immediately following in its aftermath in the United States. Clark says her larger plan for the series would take in the comic's larger scope and subsequent seasons will include a big-time jump and playing about with genre like the comic.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Style-wise, the show boasts a very naturalistic, cinematic style with plenty of close-ups and high detail. The first three episodes of the first season we released on September 13th, via FX on Hulu, with further episodes to come weekly. Sign me up. I am so excited for this series.
Starting point is 00:51:12 There's a lot of stuff I'm looking forward to, man. I was at a place where it was like, I don't know if anything's really excited me. I'm so pumped up for a lot. For a lot here. And this is one of them. have you guys read this graphic novel? Did you like it? Have you heard about it? Do you care? I'm really excited because I don't know. To be honest, I was thinking about it. If I hadn't read the graphic novel, would I be as intrigued? And I don't know if I would be, to be honest. I'm like, oh, what's that? I have to hear from it. I had to hear about it.
Starting point is 00:51:43 But the fact that I remember loving the graphic novel, I definitely didn't read the whole thing. I read the issue that I had. It wasn't the conclusion of the entire story. I'm looking at. I think. think I have it on my shelf. And if I do, if I have it on that shelf, I'm probably going to reread it, at least to see, you know, how it is. I'll probably do a review of the first episode. If enough people, I mean, I'm curious, do you guys care about it? Let me know whether it's in the premiere, as the premiere airs and in the comments, because I'm pumped for it, but I don't know if anybody else is as excited as I am.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I hope it crushes. I hope it does really well. Let me see if there's any other stories to go before I jump into your questions. Venom. Oh, yeah, the Dune reviews are in. They're mixed. I don't want to care about the reviews I'm doing it. I can't wait for that movie.
Starting point is 00:52:35 I'm excited for it. That's it. That's it. All right. I'm going to get to some Facebook questions. So I asked you guys, I asked you guys to submit some questions today about things you wanted to talk about and that I would address them. And that's what I'm going to do. And I think that maybe when I do these episodes like this, I'll continue to do it.
Starting point is 00:53:00 So for people who are listening on podcast form, whether it's Apple or Spotify or wherever you get podcast, just to know, head on over to my Facebook page. It's my public Facebook page. I've been very active on that page. And I'm going to continue to be, I'm trying to post at least once a day and responding to as many comments as I can. And I've been doing the same thing on YouTube, try to be as active as I can. There's the SEM group over there too. Admins have been doing a really good job connecting things to the big thing now.
Starting point is 00:53:27 So yeah, so head on over to that page and we'll do more of these. But here's some questions. I'm going to start with the first one. And this is from Alex Tourney. Now that the Sopranos is fresh in your memory, what's an episode that stands out to you? For me, it's the season premiere of season three when the FBI is watching the family outside their home. So well done, great soundtrack, and really shows the duality of the life they live. Very underrated episode that does not get mentioned.
Starting point is 00:53:53 You know what's so funny about that episode is I remember watching that episode at a friend's house. Strangely enough, not to name job because I'm not like, I'm not friends with the guy, just my buddy was Gloria Stefan's kid. We were over his house watching it, hanging out, watching the, I don't even know, he was a nice guy. I don't know what the hell happened to him. But anyway, we were watching that episode, and I remember everybody was talking about that the music. It was the way that they They combined the spy The theme
Starting point is 00:54:24 With the police And doing that That the narrative for the entire season Like rewatching it Knowing how much they put into it And just like that Meadow takes the lamp And all of that is for naught
Starting point is 00:54:41 Like that That's it That was the brilliance of that Of that episode in general As far as what stands out for me I mean, like I've been telling you guys, I have the, I just got the Pio Mai painting,
Starting point is 00:54:58 but it's the one that Pauly switched up with Napoleon. But I think that it's, the Ralphie Sorretto stuff always, always sat with me, you know, and especially that, that whole scene and of all the rules that are being broken in the mafios at that point, because Tony's supposed to, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:19 it's this love that he's got for the animals and this hatred that it's like an excuse for him to go over there and meanwhile ralphi is like mourning for his kid who's in the hospital and it's like almost like not brain dead but like just take him a long time to recover after the the bleeding to his brain because of the arrow and and he's he's in mourning and the horace pio my winds up dying and tony goes over there and like it just it's chaos. It's just a chaotic scene in general, and it seems very real on how these two guys are fighting. And yeah, it's just that it was,
Starting point is 00:56:01 I remember it being shocking at the time. I mean, another episode that stands out is for the Burt Young episode, Pauly from Rocky, played Bacola's dad, and how he was like, he needed to, he was, emphysema, but he needs to feel alive. So he decides to do the, the hit on,
Starting point is 00:56:17 Mustang Sally and that's a pretty devastating episode there's a there's a lot of them I I forgot a lot to be honest to do because I'm I'm in season five right now I think that I watched back seasons one through three so many times and I never I definitely never rewatch season five I only saw it once because there's tons of stuff that I didn't remember I it kind of came back like the stuff with Tony's dad's Kumar and he goes and he's and he starts like almost treating her like a mother figure, but the seasons have gotten significantly better for me on the rewatch as I figured that they would because my biggest concern with it was,
Starting point is 00:56:58 or observation rather, was that I think this is what's going to happen. I think because back in the day I was, obviously, like we do with all properties, you're expecting one thing, and when it doesn't happen, you're disappointed, but not just that. The Sopranos for television, you'd have to wait like almost two years for a season. So everything wasn't really fresh anymore in your head. I'm coming off of a week or 15 minutes after a season ends. I'm right back into the next season and it just continues on.
Starting point is 00:57:26 And I'm enjoying it more that way. I remember being bummed the first time Feet-Lamana when he came in and then Tony just sends him on a bus and he goes back to jail. And I remember being bummed when I watched that originally. But watching it now and watching what he says, like I learned nothing from Richie Appreel. and he makes a leadership call and sends him off and gets rid of him, but he sends him off in a different way.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I liked that because he couldn't kill him, because Stilvie even says, he's a well-like guy, very light guy. He's very light, and Tony says, and that's also what bothers me. But instead they set him up with Chrissy, and they give him a shot. They go, hey, look, man, we got this truck, and he's like, ah, put it in the garage. And he stilled his own fate. All the stuff with Busemi.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I love Steve Bussami, by the way. in season five. You can tell you, the accent sometimes goes in and out for me, for him, but I think he's, Tony Blondetto is a fun character. All right, moving on over. That was, thank you for your question, by the way. Alex, I appreciate that. We're going to move to the next question.
Starting point is 00:58:34 And the next question is from Pat David Dean. What are some of your favorite movies and TV shows you've seen since the pandemic started last year? Maybe a top three for both. I don't know about top three, but I can tell you there's a bunch of, I mean, obviously Palm Springs is one of the movies that pops in a mind when it comes to that. I mean, does Cobra Chi count? I don't know. I'm not sure if Cobra Coy counts because I've already had watched it for YouTube. And then as the season moved on, you know, onto Netflix.
Starting point is 00:59:06 So that doesn't really count, I think. Same thing with Ozark, and everybody started. Some of the movies, favorite movies and TV shows since I mean, I mean, I mean, the one that stands out is Palm Springs, to be honest. Oh, mayor of East Town. Mayor of East Town for HBO Max. Probably one of the shows that I definitely enjoyed very much. Suicide Squad, definitely.
Starting point is 00:59:29 That was one that I was curious about and went up loving it. My favorite movie of the year so far. I mean, granted, I haven't seen a ton of shit, but that's one. Oh, what else, man? What else is really that I've talked about that I can, I mean, like I said, the last like three months of my life, or two, three months I've been watching The Sopranos. And I have no regrets. I have no regrets whatsoever watching the Sopranos and doing what I've been doing.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Is there other stuff that I've been, I mean, some of the other stuff as far as TV shows go, I mean, Mandalorian, does I count those, season two? I don't know if that counts because, season one had already come out. So that's kind of the stuff that I've been, and well, Loki, Loki was a lot. I think that Wanda Vision surprised me.
Starting point is 01:00:21 WandaVizabeth, and Class Action Park on HBO Max about Action Park. That was one. That was definitely one. But Wanda Vision surprised me because I was not looking forward to that show at all. Like almost skipped it because I didn't care, and I thought that the trailers looked really stupid,
Starting point is 01:00:36 and I didn't know how the gimmick was going to pan out. But I wound up really liking that show. Yeah, I think that's good I mean, I don't have a great list for you I don't think. I mean, as far as any other movies that have popped, that I can really stand out,
Starting point is 01:00:51 maybe anything I've been raving about? I don't know, you guys will probably tell me because I don't remember. But I know that's a shitty answer. It's all I got, though. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:01:01 All right, so that was from Pat. Thank you, Pat. I appreciate that. Okay, let's go to the next one. The next one, Michael Mengus. Do you think that the MCU delving into multiple movies about the multiverse is going to start alienating the casual moviegoer? It's a phenomenal question. And to be completely honest with you, Michael, I thought the same thing.
Starting point is 01:01:20 It's complex, right? They did something, you know, complex with the time travel, but it's really not the same thing. Because there is a, Loki, because of all that stuff, my wife loves Loki, loves Tom Hiddleston, loves own work. Wilson was kind of bored by the multiverse stuff. I loved it. But is it going to be too confusing for people? I don't know. I mean, at this point, you've got to give them the benefit of the doubt that they'll explain it in a way that it makes sense and that you can keep the casualer because you know that that conversation comes up in the creative process, right?
Starting point is 01:02:07 It's all right, well, look, this is a lot going on here. Can we, do we think that we can grab the casual viewer? And they waited for a while to do it because you've got to switch things up and you got to change stuff up. And now it's time to give it a shot. And I also think it's one of the reasons why you're going to be able to bring in like Alfred Molina, Toby McGuire, and Andrew Garfield and all these people. Because the fact that you're doing that, you're bringing in people that maybe weren't even fans of the MCU. And they were just fans of the Ramey movie.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Now they're curious, and it depends on how it's explained. Look, Into the Spiderverse did it, and it won the Oscar. So the casual viewer, I mean, that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to get the casual viewer, but it did very well in the theater. It did very well in general, and it didn't lose the casual viewer. So if you do it the right way, you can get them on board. You just got to set it up the right way. So it's a risk, but I don't think it's a nail in the coffin by any stretch of the imagination.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Let's do a couple more. Steve Frederick, can you talk about Jeff's retirement in his legacy? For those people who don't know, Jeff Snyder just made a tweet recently that he is moving back to Boston, no longer working with Collider, and also retiring from the Shmode. So complete transparency, Jeff and I talked about it, and I was under the assumption that Jeff was, we were going to wait and I was going to say something that like spectacular. And we were going to talk about, you know, Jeff retiring. and I called Jeff yesterday, and he's like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know, I'm just figured,
Starting point is 01:03:40 you know, I just wanted to get everything out there. I was like, it's cool. I told him I'd do something for him at Spectacular. He insisted that I did not. He's like, he's like, no, I appreciate everything you guys did. I just want to kind of step back and kind of focus on, on, you know, writing and do everything that I'm doing now, and he's looking to do some other stuff. So Jeff did a lot for the league, and as far as his legacy goes, he's the best team's player
Starting point is 01:04:02 that ever played the game. He won multiple champions. ships inside of that division. He was a, he was the Dennis Rodman of the Schmodeon. I never think that anybody's time in Schmodeon is final. I feel like anybody can show up at any other time. But, but no, he did a lot of great stuff for the league. So, you know, he's got to do what gets himself.
Starting point is 01:04:26 He's got to find a gig. You know, he's got to find a job. I mean, he's looking for, and he always will. I mean, the guys worked for a variety and the rap, the Hollywood Porter, Collider. He'll, he's going to land on his feet. and do something pretty special. Matt Varny, how about your thoughts on the rumor that Mace Windu could be the antagonist of the Canobi series,
Starting point is 01:04:44 that he returns hell-bent on ensuring the children of Anakin Skywalker do not live to repeat the mistakes of their father. God, I hope that doesn't happen. Oh, I hope that is just a bullshit rumor that comes out. I think that sounds terrible. I hate that, I hate that rumor. Yeah, I hope it's, no, please no. He always had the dark side in him, like in the novels and stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:06 He was like the one that he was able to do it. And even shit, you saw it in Revenge of the Sith when he's ready to just slash Palpatine with no regrets and just take him out. But no. He's hunting Luke and Leyen. That's what the, then why do you bring Hayden Christensen back at that point? He's going to be, so Obi-Wan's got to juggle Mace Windu trying to take out the kids, plus still worry about Vader at the same time and other stuff going on in the rebellion. Nah, I don't think that's going to happen. I mean, look, if that's ultimate.
Starting point is 01:05:36 the direction that they go and Deborah Chow and Floney and all those people figured out a cool way to make it work. Just like I was talking about with Wanda Vision, I could come back and go, look, I was really opposed to that. I thought it was going to be shit, but they executed it the right way and it turned out to be phenomenal. But I could not care less as far as that storyline goes. I don't think it's necessary. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't want to see Mace return in some way, but not in that way. because there's so many people return. If Darth Mall can return,
Starting point is 01:06:08 if they're getting cut in half, Mace Windu can figure out a way. I mean, you're like, oh, you're throwing out of a window. Anakin and Obi-Wan are like zipping through, in the attack of the clones.
Starting point is 01:06:18 They're like navigating through cars and traffic. And, you know, granted he got hit with lightning, but he could have landed on something and they could have been fine, they could reshoot it. I, you know, I just also want to know,
Starting point is 01:06:29 well, where's he been all this time? If it was a matter of just a little, bit of time and he still wind up crapping out a couple years later and not be able to reveal himself, then fine. But give me a limited series with Sam Jackson or maybe he comes back later on. He's been living, you know, I don't know. It depends on how they did it, but not for that angle. I don't, I don't love that angle personally. But who knows? Rumors are rumors and that's what it is. All right. I think this is the last one. Ebben, Ezzer, Oriana. When do you think that S-Ean can be in person again, especially being on Twitch, the audience interaction and with the crew on person
Starting point is 01:07:06 would bring so much energy like the show had prior to going digital. I agree with you 100%. The problem is, as you saw, not 20 minutes to half an hour ago, I do this show from my garage. And my wife just proved that to you by coming in here and doing a 25-minute, 30-minute jog on the treadmill. So I, and I also have to, this is my office, this is where I work. This is where I'm doing other stuff for Shmodown. This is where I'm doing stuff for, you know, skybound stuff and other things, meetings and all that.
Starting point is 01:07:41 It all takes place here. So, and this is what I said in the beginning of the show. I'm going to be maneuvering this office around, and I'm going to be trying to get it more podcast-friendly going around. like in getting that two shot and setting it up more but it doesn't serve itself well to just kind of renting out and having SCN live come in here and do stuff while I'm working trying to work in the corner it just it just doesn't work but I'm very hopeful and very I'm confident that hopefully by like February or March or 2022 maybe even January um we will have a place for
Starting point is 01:08:21 SCN Live to be able to be live in studio on Twitch doing all that stuff. So the answer to your question, the goal is yes. The plan is to get them back in studio. Realistically, this year, I don't know if it's going to happen. But you guys should, you should head on over to, and at the time, this is the apology on my part to SCN Live. By the time this premieres, they'll still be on the air, and I'd never like to do that. is only because I put the show on so damn late
Starting point is 01:08:50 that it, and by the time it goes up, their show will almost be over. But you should be going over to SCN live every day, Monday through Friday. If you want to interact with the crew, you can do it. And you send in the robots, do all that if you're missing that. I know some people were saying,
Starting point is 01:09:03 oh, we miss it being live. That's why SCN live is there. So hopefully you can head on over there and interact with them. Okay. I had a fun show. Did you guys like this? Please let me know.
Starting point is 01:09:15 If you had, if you liked these episodes, I was planning on doing these like once a month and sometimes when necessary, right? Like, for example, yesterday I knew that I was going to be spending some time with the wife for her birthday and that I wasn't going to be able to get anybody over here to tape. And I knew I wasn't going to be able to do it myself, do it myself yesterday. So I said if I woke up early enough and did an episode and asked some questions from the fans and then also covered the stuff that I haven't covered over the last couple of weeks, that maybe that would be interesting. But you're the ones that tell me whether or not you think it's interesting or not. So in the comment section, and I'll ask the question as one of the first questions, do you like this format?
Starting point is 01:09:54 Do you want to see me do it more? Do you want to see me do it less? I had originally said a month, do you want to see it every two weeks, or would you like me to keep it to a month? Another reminder, Katie Sackoff is going to be on the show on Monday, just confirmed with her. She's coming in. It's going to be me, her, and Kate Mulligan. We're going to be doing an episode on Monday. So please check that out.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I'm probably, I'm not probably. I'm going to do a Matrix trailer reaction. I'll do that tomorrow. So hopefully you're able to head on over there and watch that and support that. If you haven't subscribed to this channel already, please do so. If you haven't downloaded the episodes on podcast, please do so. Even if you're one of the 10,000 people who are watching these episodes in their run, if you guys all went to the podcast feed, whether it's Spotify or Apple or any of that,
Starting point is 01:10:39 and just downloaded the episodes and subscribed, like the numbers would jump significantly and we'd be able to do more of these and all of that. So anyway, it's been fun today, guys. I had a blast doing this. I'm really excited to continue to do this. And I thank you for all your support. I appreciate it. And we're going to see you on Friday.
Starting point is 01:11:00 I don't know who's gone yet. Probably Kate. Might just be Kate. I mean Kate. I don't know yet. Figure that out. Anyway, thank you guys so much. It's a big thing.
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