The Kristian Harloff Show - Can Star Wars movies make a comeback? What needs to change?

Episode Date: March 23, 2023

JOIN THE SITE (Free) http://www.thekristianharloff.com The Star Wars movies have been on hiatus since The Rise Of Skywalker. There have been directors and creators announced to the projects but lots o...f those people have left the projects they were attached to. The latest news is Damon Lindelof. The Leftovers/Watchmen producer was part of the new Star Wars project that was supposed to be announced at Celebration. What does this latest departure mean for Star Wars? Can it bounce back? The Mandalorian is in Season 3 and episode 4 just aired. The Bad Batch Season 2 hit episode 14 and The Daniels will be directing an episode of The Skeleton Crew. This and more will be discussed on today's Big Thing Sith Council with Kristian Harloff. Enjoy! #starwars #starwarscelebration #movies #kathleenkennedy  SUNDAY: http://www.getsunday.com/bigthing ATHLETIC GREENS: http://www.athleticgreens.com/bigthing OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg

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Starting point is 00:00:01 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to Sith Council. Big thing, Sith Council. It is Wednesday. And normally we have the entire crew on. Wasn't able to do it today. I'll explain more of that once we get to the actual show itself. But on the show today, Damon Lindelof is gone,
Starting point is 00:00:18 leaving the project that he was apparently attached to, developing, going to be more part of, and now he's leaving. After comments that he just made us south by just last week, not too surprising to hear this and also not surprising because it seems to be an ongoing problem at Lucasfilm. The Bad Batch, they had episode 14 air. They got a two-parter coming out next month. The series has been pretty good so far, so why aren't more people talking about it? Speaking of more people talking about it, the Mandalorian has had four solid episodes thus far,
Starting point is 00:00:52 and there doesn't seem to be as much buzz as previous seasons. Again, why is that? Is it a Star Wars thing? We'll talk about that, and we'll get in. into it and what we thought about the episode in general. There's a lot of great things that happened inside of this past episode, and a very, very familiar actor from Star Wars had made his triumphant return. So we'll get into that and more. The Daniels, you know him from everything, everywhere, all at once, just won an Oscar, and now they're going to be doing Skeleton Crew, a full episode.
Starting point is 00:01:22 So there's all of that and more, and I'm going to be taking questions from you guys on Sith Council here today. So thanks for joining me on the show. And if you haven't been here before, do me fair. Show a little bit. Just an ounce. 100,000. We're trying to get there. We're almost there.
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Starting point is 00:02:25 Big thing, let's do it. I'm ready. You're ready. Come on. Welcome back, everybody, to Big Things Sith Council. It's me. Christian Harlov. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Obviously, Spotify and Apple Podcasts. You could be listening to this right now. It could be exactly how you're listening to this. We could be watching it on the YouTube's. So where's the council? Where are they, man? Where's Mike? Where's Steph?
Starting point is 00:03:00 Mike, sometimes we used to Mike sometimes not being here. He's got to work. Dustin, but Steph's always here. What happened? Well, it's the same reason why initially we were supposed to do this big, kind of big party on Friday. We're going to have everybody in the room. We're going to have this whole big thing.
Starting point is 00:03:16 We're still doing an event on Friday. But unfortunately, it's got to be virtual. And you guys know how much I love virtual. But we are doing it for the launch and everything, too. And we're excited to kind of still. We haven't had the entire big thing crew together. So it's still going to be a lot of fun. But the reason why is that someone in my house got sick.
Starting point is 00:03:37 and, you know, I'm not, but you never know. And you want to protect people. And then someone else on the crew got sick outside, someone who wasn't even here at all. Got sick on their own. So they can't come in. So even, you know, you get to a place, you're like, okay, man, everybody's getting healthy again.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Wrench in the, it's another reason for people who have been watching the channel wondering where my Dungeons and Dragons reaction were missed the screening to it, wondering where my air out of the theater was, missed the screening to it, had some event I had to go tomorrow, it's a thing, whatever, what are you going to do? So yesterday on my stream, if you saw me on the stream and I was a little, I don't know, on edge, and I know why. But I stayed up last night and I watched the Mandalorian. And again, normally on Sith Council, we'll do like a full Mandalorian.
Starting point is 00:04:36 spoiler discussion, but I already did my spoiler review, and it's just me again, so I'm not going to do it again. You want to watch my spoiler thoughts. You can check it out. It's up on the channel right now. And again, the spoiler discussion is to really get with Mike and Stafford and kind of get the thought process going. But what I will say again from the show is I saw a lot of people saying how much they really love the episode. And I really like the episode a lot. I got a really, really silly comment from somebody, too.
Starting point is 00:05:05 and it's kind of was actually addressed by somebody else in the comments and the questions today too. I agree with people that, you know, hate comments are the worst. Like, you know, the negativity and people just being horrible to each other. That's the worst. But not liking someone's comments because they're not as positive and don't find all of the positive that you do and making them feel bad for it is getting just as. bad. So I stand by for what I said on this episode. I thought that the episode was a good episode, but I thought it could have benefited for 15 more minutes. And I still do. I think that with
Starting point is 00:05:47 the writing of it, it could have been a little bit more, I think a little bit more detail. I think that we are getting an idea more so now, really what the story is about to be. It's Boca Tan and being able to get her people together, all signs of it. And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, Din and Grogu kind of help her show the way, and it's her learning all sides of the Mandalorian, and it's also Grogu coming into his own and becoming a Mandalorian, and it's the history and all that, and then leading into kind of restoring Mandalor and probably getting their revenge against Moff Gideon, and I like that story, and I think it's working well. But it needs a little more time.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It was like 26 minutes, and I said as much, and I got this comment from this guy saying along the lines of, and there were a lot of great comments, too, by the way, people who are just very positive on either the show or talking about their review, anything in general, but going into these things, why the Star Wars fans just have to complain, and that's why you don't get into bed, blah, blah, blah. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:06:49 I literally said that I liked the episode. It was a good episode. Could have been longer. Could have been longer. There are things I like to, like the things that I'll tell you the things that I love, and I'll tell you the things I had an issue with. I love that. this is a spoiler. So if you haven't, this part of it, so if you haven't seen last night's
Starting point is 00:07:08 episode, you know, make sure you steer clear this particular conversation. But, all right, you've been warned. So they show who saved Grogu. I think it was amazing that they had Ahmed Best back. I think it was such a nice moment for him and a nice moment for them to say, look, we know that all the crap that you went through for years. And not only do you get to come back can be a Jedi. You get to save Grogoo, and you get to be the reason that this show actually exists. It's amazing. So I loved all of that.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And I said inside of my review, the only thing I kind of, you know, I was bummed, not for a split second because I was like, oh, it would have been cool if they had Quinlan Voss. That doesn't mean I'm saying, like, oh, bad choice. And there's a good choice what they did. It's fun. And then people started making more sense about what it was. I said that, well, who were those people that were, like,
Starting point is 00:08:03 protecting them. Why aren't they fighting against the... Why aren't they fighting against the Jedi when... And they said, well, those are Nibu soldiers. That makes sense. I get it. But either way, I thought the episode was pretty damn good. And it had...
Starting point is 00:08:23 It had... As I said inside of yesterday's episode... Excuse me. This morning spoiler was that it really is about understanding where this whole culture of Mandalorians is going and how I think they're going to have to live as one. The people who don't believe in the way, the people who have kind of,
Starting point is 00:08:48 because they've already established that they can, Bo and Dinn and Grogo have found this portion. This is who they know. This is Dinn's family. So they're going to be able to recruit them first. Then they've got to go and they've got to recruit the other side. and then they got to retake Mandelor. At least that's what I think or hope.
Starting point is 00:09:05 It seems like that's where it's going to go. And then they got to incorporate how it's going to work with what we saw with Pershing and the cloning. And it seems like Katie Perry. Katie Perry is in the show now. Katie O'Brien's character is working for Moff Gideon. So there's a lot. I think there's a lot of good stuff that's going on. I still think that there should have been maybe, you know, combination.
Starting point is 00:09:30 of episode one and episode two. Could have been one long episode because it essentially tells the same story. Episode three, I think maybe even you, because what I had said this morning, I don't necessarily, I mean, sometimes I'll push back a little bit on this, but I know, I'd kind of agree with what this person said, and that was, I said that, I think intercutting
Starting point is 00:09:53 with this episode that just aired with last episode might have made it flow inside of a mandolorn. type episode. And someone made a point, and they said, look, sometimes intercutting is, I mean, well, they didn't say it as nice, but intercutting can be jarring and doesn't work. Well, sometimes it works very well. But I don't necessarily disagree with you that it might not have worked in this situation. However, I think what could have worked maybe, because the conversation I had was talking to Riley
Starting point is 00:10:18 about it when we talked about, because people use that example, right, of Boba Fett. When Mandalorian shows up in Boba Fett, and it's a Mandalorian episode in the butcher shop. Now, you know, when he shows up, it's, it's his episode. And I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, that it just starts with him from the beginning. You don't get any BobaFed up top. I don't think. I haven't seen the episode a while, but I don't think. You guys, again, tell me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And I think that it's just whether or not you go, what the hell is that doing in BobaFet? Sure. But if it's, if it seemed like there's two different episodes. but two different shows going on at the same time. That's what was jarring. So my thought process after reading those comments and thinking about it was maybe even have just done Pershing and Katie O'Brien's character. I forget what her name is, the character itself.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And they just do a full episode from where it starts with Pershing in Corrassant. Don't do the bow and Mando stuff at all. Just the full episode, episode three is just Corrassant. what we got and let people complain about it. Oh, what the hell? There was no, there was no, there was no, it was, because it pertained to the story, right? And then the stuff that they did have,
Starting point is 00:11:42 that, that fight when her castle blows up and they go and they show up to the, to the Mandalorian cage, you put all that stuff in this episode, and then you got yourself another, now you have two, 45 minutes, like close to, yeah, because last week's was like 52 minutes. You have to, like, two 45 minute episodes. I'm very curious to hear what you guys think about it,
Starting point is 00:12:01 what do you think, in general? You like the length? I think the length plays well. Yeah, and again, people who, it's like, there's definitely, definitely a reason for one of the reasons that they're cutting back on time is cost. And so, are you kidding? It's not cost?
Starting point is 00:12:21 You look out of the CGI in there? Yeah, exactly. More CGI for another 15. minutes. See how much more expensive that is? So the 35 or 30 or 26 minutes that they had, they CGIed the hell out of it. It was really expensive. Fifteen more minutes of CGI, even more expensive. So, but I'm digging where we're going so far. But I'm curious, you know, you see a lot of people, there's a lot of back and forth, but I think that the main thing people are really talking about, and I think rightfully so is Ahmed best, to have him back
Starting point is 00:12:56 in the way that he did because now people are going to be thinking about that. And he was able to do that. He was able to, and he looked good doing it. He's, I mean, that movie was, what, 20 some odd years ago, whatever it was. 23 years, it was in 99. Yeah, I can't remember. 98, 99, Phana Menace. And he looks like he's 25 years old.
Starting point is 00:13:21 It's amazing. And I was really, I was very happy for him. I've never met I'm at best, but I've only heard incredible things about him. So good on him. I'm glad that that happened. What did you guys think of the episode? Do you like it? Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Tell me. I want to know. All right. Let's get to this. All right. It's from Grant Davis over at Star Wars Newsnet. Lucasfilm's latest Star Wars production has to hit a new snag. Damian Lindulof and Justin, Britt Gibson, have left the project right ahead of the film's official announcement at Star Wars Celebration.
Starting point is 00:13:54 There is some good news, however, the film's direct. the film's director is staying attached to the project, while at least one new writer has been selected to revise the draft written by Lindelof and Britt Gibson. And production is set to begin early next year. Jeff Snyder himself says that Damon Lindeloff and Gibson decided to exit their Star Wars project in the middle of February after delivering the first draft of the screenplay. Though the film directors in production timeline is otherwise unaffected,
Starting point is 00:14:20 a new writer or writers will be taking over. The replacement writers were already initially circling the project as Lindelof and Gibson were on the way out, and the director remains on the film. The report comes from Snyder, who broke the rumors about the project beginning and covered multiple news updates on it over the month. Snyder indicated that despite the setback,
Starting point is 00:14:38 the production timeline will remain the same and that the title and basic premise will be discussed next month at Star Wars Celebration in Europe. Okay. So here's the thing. Again, people saying when they hear this report, they go, oh, this is, this is Stan, this is what happens. This is what happens.
Starting point is 00:14:56 in Hollywood. They hire on screenwriters. And then after they hire them on, then if it doesn't go through the first, they don't like the first draft, or they just hired them on for the first draft, they move on. And they bring in other people. That is true. That is true. I can tell you from working at, when I was working at Warner Brothers, working for silver pitchers, they had drafts, and they had people who submitted draft one, submitted draft two. Okay, they're off done draft two. new writers for draft three and draft three. It happens all of the time. However, we're also in a very different time now where Damien Lindelof is a bigger name than just a, and nothing against screenwriters. A lot of screenwriters are very talented screenwriters out there. But Lindelof is also,
Starting point is 00:15:44 whether it's Watchman or leftovers or all these different shows and things that he has done. he carries a bigger name and idea of what his involvement will be, and it seemed like he was going to be part of a longer run than just submitting a draft and then, oh yeah, I wrote a draft and then I'm out. And the problem also with that is they didn't even officially announce Lindeloff, and it was scooped as you saw by Snyder. It was pretty much confirmed he started talking about it that he was doing, and he wasn't the way that he talked about it was if he was going to be.
Starting point is 00:16:20 on for a while. And then the comments that came out of Southby were along the lines of, well, it was difficult to write. I'm not sure whatever his particular words were. He just wasn't, it was harder than he thought, and I don't know if that necessarily means from notes or whatever that he was getting or whatever it was. He said, well, we'll leave it at that. So they both left the project. The problem is that high profile names keep leaving the project. And it's like, oh, once this excitement, the biggest, I think that Lindeloff had the most excitement, positive excitement. Sir, and I know not everybody, there's a lot of people who I've seen comments of people
Starting point is 00:17:02 who aren't fans of Lindelof, and that's fine. But I've seen the most positive response off of his involvement than a lot of different people that have been attached to projects. But now, once again, he's gone. Now, the question is why? Was he just hired on for the first run of the script? And if that's the case, well, then that's what he was involved to do, and that's it. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
Starting point is 00:17:30 It seems to be that he was involved in it for a bit, wrote a couple of things, got a couple of notes. Every time he tried to put something in there, he got more notes. Now, I'm also going to say this. You could wind up getting some notes down the line, or notes, are inside information down the line that maybe he was trying to do stuff outside of the Star Wars box and people inside of the box, and people who knew whether it's a Dave Filoni,
Starting point is 00:18:03 Pablo Hidalgo, whoever, you can't do this because it goes so outside of the canon, it goes that we've been in this position before and we can't go down that direction anymore. This isn't really working for what Star Wars is. And then he's like, well, this is too hard for me. I've got to get the hell out of here. And it might have been for the best.
Starting point is 00:18:20 best. It's very possible. But it's just one of those things again where it's like every single time someone comes in with a name, a creator, Fige and Petty Jenkins and, you know, Lord and Miller and Josh Trank and Benny Off and Weiss. And it's like one after the next, like, see you later, bye. Like, is a Sean Levy thing even going to happen? There was another, there was, there were a few other ones. It was developed and gone. And I don't know. What is, I think it's, it really is going to be, there's absolutely a way to turn this all around, too, by the way.
Starting point is 00:19:05 If it turns out that this idea, whatever the idea might be, that they announce at Star War Celebration, and they announce whoever is writing it and taking Lindelof's place, and they talk in excitement of what it's going to be, if they can get, all facets of the Star Wars fandom, which is definitely not easy to do. But if they get all facets to go, well, that sounds really interesting. That sounds fun.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Interesting. That's what they're going to do? Huh. But if they start to go to a place that just seems like the same old, same all, the stuff that they've been doing, throwing anything against the wall with no real plan, it's not working out for them. And I think that they, I mean,
Starting point is 00:19:49 we've been saying this forever on this show. They need a new battle plan. The plan is not working right now. And it clearly isn't working with either directors and producers and all these other people too. What do you guys think? You think this is just typical Hollywood stuff and it's the way that the process works and kind of assume that Lindelof wouldn't be involved in it? Or is it just the same kind of repeating vicious circle, if you will, that's happening at Lucasfilm?
Starting point is 00:20:18 Let me know what you think. Okay. All right, before we move on, we're going to get to Bad Batch, and we're going to get to, I want to talk about the Daniels, then we'll get into your questions. But before we do it, I've got to tell you about our sponsors for the show today, Sunday, and Athletic Greens. Spring is around the corner, and I'm excited about it. I'm excited about it for a lot of different reasons, but Sunday is back. Not the day. The peeps who bring you great lawn care.
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Starting point is 00:24:33 And this is from Sidney Watson, over at Star Wars Newsnet. In the aftermath of the success of their film, which earned seven Academy Awards, Best Director and Best Picture This Month, Everything Everywhere, All at Once, Daniel Kwan, and Daniel Sharn, commonly referred to as the Daniels, are rumored to be directing an episode of Skeleton Crew, according to sources over at One Take News. When asked about the rumor at Lucasfilm declined to comment, a representative of the Daniels did not immediately respond for comment. Now with an update, Daniel Kwan has now confirmed via Instagram that they are indeed directing an episode of the John Watts captioned, captained series.
Starting point is 00:25:13 He also went on to explain that they were approached before everything everywhere all at once even came out. So there you go. This is a good move. this is a good move. And I think that it's smart. And look, even they got them beforehand. And it's also John Watts working with, I've mentioned this many times over.
Starting point is 00:25:33 If you have not seen the old man on Hulu or FX, whatever, fantastic. He directs the first two. Really, really well done. And I'm excited to see what John Watts is going to bring to the skeleton crew. And I think that we're going to get more excited for skeleton crew after we see Asoka, because there's, I think there's going to be things and the overall idea.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Now there's more of the kind of confirmation from like Dave Faloni and they talked about like the crossover event. And what I mean by confirmation, they asked them something along the lines is, is there going to be this big crossover event with everything. He's like, yeah, it kind of has to be, right? And that kind of means that, yes, there will be. And I think that they start to set that up.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I think they even set it up a little bit in Mandalorian. They start to set it up big in Asoka. And then they started up, have it even bigger. and leading into giving you more of a reason to watch with Skeleton Crew. And I think that that's what we're going to wind up setting up with Thrawn and these unknown regions and all that stuff. And to have these guys doing it to put their stamp on it, it's going to be a smart move, a good move.
Starting point is 00:26:36 It'd also get the buzz going, the headlines going, and it's, yeah, I think it's going to end it'll also look fantastic. So I'm curious of what they're going to do and how they're going to play it. But Skeleton Crew is a show I'm definitely looking forward to more so than I was. originally because I, in the same way, and I think that I've kind of learned my lesson when it's come to, like you look at Andor, I remember when all the shows were announced back in the day when we were talking about them, and I was like, and to me, Ander was the one I was least excited about. And I, there's no doubt about it. Mandalorian included, Andor is hands down the best
Starting point is 00:27:11 written Star Wars television show and probably the best written Star Wars material since the original trilogy. You know, just script-wise and character-wise and development-wise. That's kind of what was my point in earlier in the show. It was just there's just those episodes are close to 45 minutes to 50 minutes, whatever it is. And it's just so much detail inside of each piece of dialogue, monologue, conversation, all these things that they had.
Starting point is 00:27:39 So I think that you could get something like that in Skeleton Crew. And as I said, it wasn't, it, when, it was first announced, I don't know, then he matched John Watts. And then hearing John Watts's take on it in the idea that it's going to be like kind of a stranger thing, but there'll be some serious moments like the Clone Wars is what he said. And so I'm pumped for that show, man. I think it's going to be, I think it'll be really good. And I'm looking forward to it, especially, you know, Jude Law.
Starting point is 00:28:05 It should be all right. What do you guys think? Let me know. Do you think putting the Daniels is a good move for this? I think obviously the answer is going to be yes. But if not, tell me why. Tell me what you think. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Before we get to your questions, bad batch, man. They hit number 14. The crew is moving forward. They're all kind of getting back together. They're really, the fact, it's like this almost tragic thing that's happening, right? They're all, like getting domesticated, living on this nice island and all this happened. The big flood happens, and it's a, I don't know, it was, it was, it, you're like, oh, these guys just can't have anything nice.
Starting point is 00:28:43 You've got to get sucked back into it. But I think this is the combo before the storm. kind of getting into the final episodes of this season. I think we'll probably, I don't know if we're going to lose anybody. I don't know if we will or we won't. But I do think that the show has been, at least the last, like, five, six episodes have been pretty damn good. And I don't think a lot of people are talking about it.
Starting point is 00:29:08 And I'm not necessarily excited about the show a lot, but I can say that I think that it's a really, it's been really good the last few episodes. And I think that I want to see how it ends and how it's going to play into potentially another season, which is what I would assume. But I'm so curious, like, how the ratings are, like what the metrics are for the ratings for, like, a show like this. Like the ratings to, the metrics for something like Mandalorian
Starting point is 00:29:33 is so dramatically different than obviously this because it's way more, way more people you want watching Mandalorian and it's kind of more of a niche number. I think you need to hit, especially again for costs and all those types of things. But what justifies another season, right? Or do they, are they even planning on do another season? Do they do another animated series altogether? Do they play with Tales of the Jedi?
Starting point is 00:30:00 Do they play with Tales of the Sith? I don't know. Curious. But this, right now, with the clones kind of all back together, and now obviously going to have to save crosshair and all that. I'm very interested to see how it ends. But thoughts for you guys, are you like it in the series? Have you gone back to it?
Starting point is 00:30:21 Did you start it in the first place? Did you start season one? If you started season one, did you start season two? You're one of these people who just went up really loving season two more than season one. Go ahead and tell me exactly what you thought. Let's get the conversation going. And speaking of the conversation, you guys have submitted a bunch of questions.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And thank you so much for doing so. we're going to get to your questions right now. All right, let's get to your questions. You guys submitted a bunch of questions. Thank you so much for doing so. I really appreciate it. Some really great ones here. Thank you to everybody who submitted.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And let's get to it. Robert Rhodes, 5816. What is the honest future of Star Wars? Numbers for Mando and Andor were low or down, regardless of one's opinion on whether they were good or not. For myself, it is hard to feel hyped or excited for this franchise. I mean, look, I can understand. I will say, though, the way that you have to look at streaming, I will say, is different from, say, theater.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Because you look at something like Shazam, right? Shazam comes out at this $30 million opening weekend. It's not going to do any better than that. It's not going to have a miraculous kind of turnaround. It's not going to make another $50 million next weekend and 70 the following weekend. It just doesn't happen, especially with all the competition. it's got out there. Streaming is very different.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Streaming, you look at something like Andor, which when people first saw it, I don't know, well, I'm subscribed to Disney Plus, but I haven't checked it out. And more people start talking about it and then people start looking at it. The initial ratings, when I first came out, no, they weren't as big as, say, Mandalorian Season 1 and Season 2. But I'd love to see what it is now as far as,
Starting point is 00:32:04 they never, they don't release, they always release the numbers for, like the same way they do for, like, a theater release. Like, what was it the first initial, when it was out, not afterwards on demand because that's when a lot of these streaming things do well. Look at something, look at these. I mean, hell, man, Battlestar Galactica still does well on streaming. So it's like, the question is, Sopranos still does very well on streaming. So that's harder to say as far as the people, when they see it, when they watch it, it is more of a, when are they going to get their movie division in line?
Starting point is 00:32:38 because that's going to help scratch the back of these other shows because you look at Marvel and Marvel's ratings and the things that they do, regardless of what you think, a lot of the shows, the reason why it's because it's all concurrent with everything that's going on inside of the movies as well. And they're missing the movies. Now, I don't miss them as much because I think that they need a plan before they just start throwing movies out there,
Starting point is 00:32:59 and that's why I'm not really worried about it because I'm looking, to me, Acolyte, Asoka, that's the type of stuff I'm really looking for. forward to see. I would like to make sure that when they're doing these shows, like you get better writing than what you got in like Obi-Wan. But like I said, there's tons of stuff that's going to be out there for everyone. Now, if you're not excited for it, then you're not excited for it. And there's tons of other things. And I also think there's a reason why bringing up comic book movies also. There's a reason why Avatar did so well. There's a reason that Tom,
Starting point is 00:33:32 that freaking Top Gun did so well, that John Wick's going to do so well. Because it's, I think that people are not necessarily just exhausted from, they want more options. And I think that movie, the comic book movies and Star Wars content and all that is going to take a little bit of a hit. Plus, there's so much out there now too. And the quality needs to get a little better. It's not, it's not as solid. Like, to me, Andor was super solid.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I'm really enjoying Mandalorian. I'm very curious and confused as to why Mandalorian, the premiere of Mandelorian, the premiere of Mandelaerian didn't do as well as the other ones. Because it ended, because season two ended so big. So I don't know. I mean, I think it may be because of a lot of other, maybe Bobavitt was subpar. Maybe again, there's just so much other things people can watch.
Starting point is 00:34:24 But it's a great question. I don't know. I don't know. Galaxy Geeks Luke, do you think the reason the Star Wars shows aren't trending like they used to is due to the fact that with no movies coming out, the mass audiences aren't being pushed back to the new Star Wars show? Yeah, it's kind of what I just mentioned.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yeah, I absolutely think that has something to do with it, for sure. For sure it does. Because it's not as much in the pop culture zeitgeist as, say, like, Marvel or even D.C. or anything is, too. I'm curious to, like, say, how, like, a show, like, the Batman will, or the Penguin will do off of the Batman, you know? But I do think that it needs it. And there's also, even when the, if the core audience isn't, super excited. It doesn't push out
Starting point is 00:35:11 to the casual audience as much. The core audience, that they're really excited, then it pushes out, and then the casual start to create hardcore fans, or they just, or it becomes more of an event,
Starting point is 00:35:23 like something like Infinity War, end game. Casual, hardcore fans were super excited and everything that was going on to the Marvel with those first three phases, and then it just kind of stretched out and it became like this big, massive thing. And Star Wars right now is,
Starting point is 00:35:37 I think it scratches the itch for like the hardcore fan that wants the Star Wars content for sure. But overall, yeah, I think there's a lot of people who aren't happy with the direction that it's just been put in at the moment, which is a bummer. But I think they're in a stretch right now with their TV. That TV is you're going to get the, like, Mandalorian to me is, I think it's going to end up really well. I've really been enjoying the season so far. I think that everything that they've gone on with the Soka and Skeleton crew, this big event, I think that's going to get people hyped and I think it'll be pretty quality. And for me, Acolyte is the one and that's next year.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Ackleid is the one that I'm looking forward to the most, especially with the announcement, 55 minute episodes, I think there are eight episodes, eight or 10 at 55 minutes apiece. Like that's a perfect length to really dive in, tell me what these characters are, who they are, give me some big, I mean, you don't have to have big action set pieces. every single time. Yeah, you do it. Star Wars. I don't think you do, and I think Andor proved it. But we'll see. All right. Next question. Thank you again for that one. Daniel 2626.26. Hey, Christian, big fan of the show. Thank you. Have you noticed that there seems to be a lack of online buzz and chatter surrounding the Mandalorian this season? Given how popular show has been until now,
Starting point is 00:36:56 it's surprising to me that this has been the case, and recent reports suggest viewership has declined. What do you think the reasons are for this? I mean, again, it's like a lot of these are, you know, playing into the same conversation that we're having. And I think that I do think that it's a lot of stuff. And I think there's a lot of stuff on Disney Plus. And I think there's a lot of stuff in general. I think there's lack of movies. And I think that there's also,
Starting point is 00:37:20 and this is another reason why I push back for people who say, oh, the 35 minutes is a good time. I don't think it gives you enough time for buzz on social media. Like there's, I think that you probably got a lot of buzz from the Ahmed Best thing, but there weren't any big massive moments that, like water cooler type moments yet that people were talking about. Like, last of us, did you see the episode of last of you?
Starting point is 00:37:46 Did you see what happened? Did you see, oh my God, did you watch that last night? They, like, every episode of Mandalorian for me so far has been, yeah, it was really good. And the thing that I would talk to like Mark Riley about if I called him, I'd be like, hey, that Ahmed Best thing was pretty cool, right? And that's what we were talking about. So that was kind of like a buzzer where the first. first episode, I'm trying to think, like, what really stood out. I mean, it's great that
Starting point is 00:38:11 like, seeing the myth of the store and those things, but I'm talking about, like, stuff, again, casual viewer type stuff to where you're going to get people chattering online about. Like, you can't always have Luke Skywalker in there the way you did, like, that's, that was one of the biggest moments that they had. You can't always do that because it gets repetitive and it gets lazy and it gets desperate. So you can't do that all the time. But having moments, that you're talking about, like strong moments, but strong characters, strong, and strong story moments too, not even characters that you know and music that you remember
Starting point is 00:38:46 and not that stuff. But stuff that, like, you have set up with characters that you're like, okay, this is going to happen. Again, I think of Last of Us, these story beads. This is why I just think that, I just think a little more detail, a little more detail, and I think more people would be, paying attention to what's going on. Lego Movie Master 219.
Starting point is 00:39:10 If you were in charge of, if you were out, if you were out in charge of Lucasfilm, what would you, what do you do? Oh, if you were in charge of Lucasfilm, what do you do? Hopefully not hire and fire another director, please. No. I'm adapting, I'm adapting my books,
Starting point is 00:39:27 if that's the case. I'm adapting the Star Wars books that, the vast library that is out there. or video games. I would set a writer's room to get Knights of the Old Republic and the Old Republic in general and start to set stories and games and comics in that era and focus in on that era and put shows in there and create characters and movies around that era for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:58 And I would bring authors, I would bring Claudia Gray into writer's room, I would bring James Lucino into writer's rooms. I would absolutely not ignore the library that we have, the Darth Bain trilogy, Darth Plagas. And again, you can turn these into protagonist stories if you needed to. If Disney gives you that note that we can't have bad guys leading, you could still do that within.
Starting point is 00:40:24 And there's other things that you can do. You want to do it at Obi-1 season two? Then adapt the book that you have and change things around. You know, it's like look at the vast, amount of books that you have inside of this. And that's what I would look at it. And that's that type of detail. I think the last of us kind of showed us that you can do that.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I don't know. All right. Strong nerd 4638. Hey Christian, is there any chance that with new leadership for Star Wars that we will get a new story, new characters, no more Skywalker saga story or characters related to that era? I think Star Wars is extremely stale and kind of needs the DC treatment of a reboot.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Any thoughts? I think it definitely needs a reboot. And on my life stream, I think that what they need to, yesterday on the Christian Harleff and French channel where I do live streams, I said that this is what I think they should do. I think that they basically, Iger should do to Lucasfilm what Zazloff did to D.C. Hire two people. Hire two people.
Starting point is 00:41:24 One person to make all the business, you know, to be the business head and to have the meetings with, with, with Iger and the, you know, the same thing that Saffron is kind of doing. producer side of it, right? And then get the head of creative, like a gun to set the slates to know what's going on as far as timelines and where you want to go and those types of things, a full plan. That type of thing we've been saying way before Warner Brothers did that. Like that's the type of thing that Lucasfilm would absolutely benefit from because the one side of it, the creative head could deal with not just the Star Wars stuff because Lucasfilm is bigger than just Star Wars. It's Indiana Jones.
Starting point is 00:42:05 It's other things that they have. And have those creative heads putting together a plan and then have, you know, I just think that that's something it absolutely does need. As far as getting away from the Star Wars, I mean, excuse me, the Skywalker side of it, I think that that's already what they've tried to do. And they said that's where they're going to go away from, I think go past episode nine, but they're bringing in, if they do bring in Ray or anybody else too, it still kind of ties into it because they're going to be scared
Starting point is 00:42:32 because they don't want to lose any familiarity. in general. But that's why I'm so excited about the Ackleite, because the Acolyte is like 100 years or something before. I can't remember. I always forget how many years it is before episode one. But it's a while, it's not going to connect. It's the first one that's really not going to connect at all.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And that's why I always say, like I just said before, playing into that Knightsiel Republic and playing into that time period. And the rumor was that Beniof and Weiss were looking into that time period of how the first, like, Jedi and Sith for it began, And if you treated that like Rome, you know, like the beginning of it and years and years and years of it through it and just spend the majority of time just building that out and got away from the Skywalker's and all that, like years and years and years before, the same way that House of the Dragon, you know, that type of stuff. That's what I wish that they would do inside of a reboot for sure.
Starting point is 00:43:29 All right. Let's see. But I don't disagree that it is getting a little repetitive of the same time periods. And they did that in the comics for a long time too. They kept putting everything in between like episode four and episode five. I did that one already. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Nick Alexander, 7-6-18. Do you think that Bo is really buying into the way or is she playing the long game? I think it's a little bit of both. I think she really is starting to buy into it. And I do think that she's, because I think her in the armor or, are forging a relationship.
Starting point is 00:44:04 And I think that she's starting to see the respect that she's getting from this crew. And she's starting to, you know, she was there basically just to survive and to kind of find a new purpose with Dan and Grogu. And she definitely has an affection for the two of them as well. But I do think she's buying into it. And I do think that she's going to use it to her advantage on both ways to kind of unite the clans, if you will, and then wind up taking back Mandelor. That's what I think. Noah Bunch 6178.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Do you feel exhausted from all the online chatter arguments about fandom as of late, especially with Star Wars? It seems like it only breeds disappointment and petty anger among fans. It's been exhausting to listen to. You like what you like. You don't like what you don't like. People act like the end of the world. Their opinion doesn't line up with someone else.
Starting point is 00:44:47 It's much love to the channel. Well, thank you, Noah. Yeah, I agree with you, man. It's like it's, it is exhausting. But I don't think it's a new thing. I think it's been really happening since like 2016, 2017. It has become politicized in the fandom. Each side uses it like it's either pure hatred or self-righteous,
Starting point is 00:45:08 and it's all this stuff that it's exhausting. I try not to get involved in it. I have been getting, again, even addressing comments and things too, something I don't really want to even do anymore. I just wanted to have fun trying to discuss positively. You can have criticisms over the things that you like. You can have criticisms over the things that you don't like if you do it in a right way. That has always been a part of conversation.
Starting point is 00:45:31 And there are people who try to come in and say, you know, like, oh, if you like this, it's because you're part of the system and you love everything that they do. And then there's other people who say, if you don't like this, it's because you're part of the problem. And all you're doing is complaining and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, or you like what you like. You just said, no, you like what you like. I'll like what I like. You don't like what you don't like.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And I'll do the same. And if we agree, we agree. If we don't, so be it. But yeah, it's kind of nuts. All right. I think there's a couple left. Louis-R. With Lindelof leaving, Lucasfilm is in chaos, more so than D.C.
Starting point is 00:46:09 With celebration coming up, what movies are left? Tyca's movie, Star Wars movies are now irrelevant because the streaming shows have been organized and moving it forward. Okay, so a lot of that is correct. TV's more organized, yes. It's also easier to, not easier to, produce, but you can get them out faster and you have more time to tell the story and all that.
Starting point is 00:46:32 So yes, they definitely have way more of a plan than the films, no doubt about it. The Lindelof movie is not canceled. That's the one thing. As you say, you know, having this in this one, it says, with celebration coming out, what movies are left, that movie is still being announced. It's just not, I just, I just, Lindelof was the one that was everyone myself included was just putting his name attached to it as the, I guess not showrunner, but executive producer of it, saying, okay, he's the one who's kind of putting this forward. It's the Lindelof movie,
Starting point is 00:47:05 and it seemed like it was. But from what some people are saying, it was just a script, and that was it. I can't imagine that's the kind of deal that he'd signed on to. But nonetheless, I think that they're going to announce that movie and what it's about. They still have the director. She did a great job on Ms. Marvel. So I think, that they're going to have that movie and I think they're going to announce Tyca and I think that they should not do that but they will I think that they will soon and I think those you're going to you're going to get because Friday is when they open up celebration not this Friday but when when it happens Friday is it next is the two weeks from now I think and they open it up and it's always
Starting point is 00:47:48 the big announcements is the first panel the main panel so they're going to get all that news that's going to come out that because they also want to steal the head. headlines to get more people to start watching because I think they are live streaming. Some people said they weren't live streaming, but now they are. I don't know. But yeah, I think that one of the reasons TV is doing so well is because there is a plan. And there's no plan right now for movies and we'll find out what the plan is in two weeks. Now, whether or not we like that plan, that's another question.
Starting point is 00:48:12 But, yeah, there's going to be a plan soon. We'll just see what the hell it is. Elsie Deals 749. Elise. Right? Elise deals. Hey, Christian. Love the show.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Thank you. And Yarfed. What do you guys think Grogo's official first words will be? I'm hoping for Dank Ferrick. I think it's going to be either, I think it'll be din. I think it's going to be din or dada, maybe. Depends on how old they kind of make them sound when he, but probably din or dada, I would assume.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Could be. I think this is the second of the last one. You Mitch Man 7. Would you view the sequel movies differently if the current and future shows fill in gaps to make it a cohesive story. I mean, I'd have to, I'd be lying if I said no, because look at,
Starting point is 00:49:05 um, look at, look at the, first of all, I love Rogue One. I think Rogue One is going to be significantly better and it's really great already. I think it's going to be significantly better when it plays as a series finale to Andor. So it's going to be significantly better. Then that's a, that's already a good movie. So.
Starting point is 00:49:26 And, and then I'll also. say, like, I look at the prequels. I've said this recently, too. The reason I look at the prequels, I actually enjoy the prequels a lot more now than I did years ago. I still think the writing is not fantastic, but I think the essence of Star Wars is
Starting point is 00:49:43 absolutely there. The stories themselves are absolutely there. But Clone Wars and rebels make both the original trilogy and the prequels significantly better because of the cohesive story. So I do think there's a way to do that.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I think there's always going to be fans who are saying that that's the only thing they're trying to do to make sense out of the sequel trilogy. Because clearly they're setting up the cloning and all those types of things. And they can make it work. And, you know, you go back into watching the sequel trilogy and they are heightened because of it and it actually makes sense a little bit more. I mean, yeah, why not? I think it's possible. I'm curious to see how they do it. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:27 J.C. 47. After today's episode of Mindlorian, do you think Grogu will get more armor as the show goes on? I hope so, but not as big. Like that plate that she gave him is almost bigger than his head. But I think, yeah, I think you'll get it. I think you're going to see him get his helmet, for sure. But you don't even, you know, capture that guy's face or get rid of his face. I think, by the way, that Boca Tan is going to make some rule that you can do, you know, once she takes over, it's going to be a mixture of, hey, as the, as kind of that the zealots were looked upon as, oh man, these lunatics who just won't take their masks off. I think they're going to all live together and understand that each other's thing.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Some people don't take their helmets off. Some people do. I think the Mandalorians are going to be kind of pretty strong by the end of this thing. And the last one, last one. Oh, that was that? Is that the last one? Or is this the last one? No, that was it.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Is that my right or am I wrong? there it is sorry go giants 109 nice do you think star wars and lucas film will announce season two of tales of the Jedi at star war celebration i really hope that they do because those six episodes are incredible i would love more stories like that i do think they're going to announce that i do they usually announce some kind of animation or something that i do think they'll announce it
Starting point is 00:51:48 because i think that it went over really well with fans i think there were shorter episodes i'd like to i mean it would be great if they actually did tales of the sith I don't think that they will, but Tales of the Jedi would be a season two. I think it's, I think it's coming. I do. I think the announcement will come. I think it's going to be usually one kind of animated announcement for sure. All right, guys.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Listen, we did it. Thank you guys for joining me here today. Appreciate it. A lot of great questions. And I really appreciate everybody who's always comments and make sure you click in those likes. That helps tremendously. If you didn't already, please look into those two sponsors.
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