The Kristian Harloff Show - CAPTAIN AMERICA'S "TENSE" On-Set Struggles REVEALED in New Vulture Article!

Episode Date: February 14, 2025

A new report on Captain America: Brave New World reveals major behind-the-scenes drama, with claims of a tense set, big egos, and production struggles. Did all these issues hurt the final movie? Plus,... The Batman 2 is officially set to start filming this year, Miles Teller reflects on the Fantastic Four reboot nearly a decade later, and are more Spider-Man delays on the way? We break it all down on today's episode of Capes and Cowls with Kristian Harloff! Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share your thoughts in the comments! 📢 Topics Covered: 🔥 Captain America: Brave New World—Behind-the-scenes issues and what went wrong 🦇 The Batman 2—Production update and what to expect from Robert Pattinson's return 🧑‍🔬 Miles Teller opens up about Fantastic Four (2015) 🕷️ More Spider-Man delays? #captainamericabravenewworld #mcu #marvel #captainamerica #captainamerica4 #drama  OUR SPONSORS:  Go to Mando at https://bit.ly/3PqN5WS and use promo code KRISTIAN5 to Control Body Odor ANYWHERE! get $5 off your Starter Pack plus free shipping (that's over 40% off). Thanks to Mando for sponsoring this video! #mandopartner  NORDVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/khshow Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! AG1: AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You'll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out hhtp://www.DrinkAG1.com/bigthing to get this offer!  STITCHFIX: Make style easy—get started today at http://www.stitchfix.com/KHS! HelloFresh: Get up to 10 FREE meals and a free high protein item for life at http://www.HelloFresh.com/kristian10fm One item per box with active subscription. Free meals applied as discount on first box, new subscribers only, varies by plan. That's up to 10 free HelloFresh meals – just go to http://www.HelloFresh.com/kristian10fm.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Captain America, Brave New World. It comes out this weekend. We all saw it. We all do non-spoiler thoughts. Strangely enough, I'm going to guess who I think liked it the most out of the three of us, and the answer might shock you.
Starting point is 00:00:17 That's good. I've been doing this a long time now. I realize after hearing myself saying that, and the answer might shock you. Tune in. So that is something. I'll tell you what shocked me. I heard that Batman, the Batman, Patinson says they're filming it this year.
Starting point is 00:00:34 And why is it coming out in 3,036? We'll talk about that. There's some Spider-Man stuff. There's more X-Men rumors. I love this latest rumor by Jeff Schneider. I heard something about Star Wars, and it's not necessarily comic-related, but I got to address it because I'm going to say it's 99% not true.
Starting point is 00:00:56 And I heard about this today. I'm going to say it's not true. And there's a report that I saw. Anyway, so we'll talk about that and more. There's lots of comic book movies with me, Winston, and Koi. So let's get into it, everybody. It is Capes and Kals. It's the Christian Harlov show.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Me, Winston and Koi, let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Capes and Kals. It's a Christian Harlov show. It is myself. It is Winston A. Marshall and Koy, Jondro. So, you know, I don't know why streamruns doing this lately. I had Joe Manganoa on the show.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I did the same thing. Like, distorted, like, you guys both look. Now Winston looks good. And Corey's getting back. So we'll see. We'll see. How are you guys doing? Quay, what's going on, buddy?
Starting point is 00:01:54 Excited. It feels like we're in that crazy summer of Marvel stuff, but it's, it's early spring. We got Spider-Man on TV. We got cap in theaters. We got Daredevel out in two weeks. It's going to a comic store. Winston, I said in the intro, man, like, I'm going to give a guess on, And if we are the three of us who liked Captain America Brave New World the best.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Okay. This is where my ranking is going to go. I think you liked it the least. Okay. I think Koi liked it the second least, and I think I liked it probably the best out of the three of us. I think. All right. Because let's, let's, because I saw Winston's out of the theater reaction, and I saw,
Starting point is 00:02:36 Koi had posted a review, and I watched it a little bit of it, And I started shooting Sarah's show, but like from where I, from where I stand, it seemed like you were analyzing it. You were breaking it down. There were things. But, uh, Winston, you just didn't, didn't really dig this movie. No, overall, it just wasn't for me. And it's, the funny thing is, is it, I felt, and I think maybe part of it is the more I've been hanging with you guys, the more I take a second to have a little bit of a critical eye. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:05 But the first thing I really noticed. and this isn't really a spoiler. I thought that the first act was way overscored. So it felt when you had discussed about seeing some of the acting scenes that they had released early and how sometimes it felt almost soap opera, even the scoring like that put me in a mood where I was like, what are we doing? And so when you throw that in for me where I thought that some of the storylines felt half-baked and that kind of comes from the standpoint of, I think,
Starting point is 00:03:39 when you do that many extensive reshoots that can happen, I just didn't work for me quite as well. There are some really great moments, but I personally, it's better than quantum mania, but it's giving me those same vibes where like initial, yeah. It's hilarious that you said that, because someone on my,
Starting point is 00:03:58 yesterday's show said that I gave quantumania, like a 3.9 or something. I said, I did. I said, that's not accurate. I thought, I don't mind it. But if I was to watch the two of these movies again, I would rather watch this one. I like this movie better than Quaomania.
Starting point is 00:04:19 So it's interesting. Like, I don't know where my ranking was on that one. But again, I have to rewatch quantumania. I remember just really disliking the ending, but I thought it was a good science fiction movie, but not a good Ant Man movie. So I got to rewatch that one. But I,
Starting point is 00:04:33 Koi, I don't know, man. Like, for me, this movie, I mean, I still gave this, I gave this a 2.9 out of five. I couldn't quite get it to fresh because I think it's, it's a very messy movie. It's a sloppily edited movie. But it felt like an episode, and I agree with you, Winston, so much. There's just so many things that they already did in Falcon and Winter Soldier that they're just doing again. It's like, here's Cap again.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I don't know if I'm worthy of the shield. We already determined that you were. We know that you're already, you know, worthy of the shield. But Anthony Mackey is really good. I like him a lot. I loved Isaiah in it. I thought it was great. I thought Harrison Ford was really good.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Oh, it was fantastic. Yeah, I thought, I thought Harrison Ford was really good as Rosson did a good job. I thought he had the best character arc out of all of them. John Carlo was wasted. And I said this many times, and I'll say it again, I love Danny Ramirez as an actor. I thought he was annoying in this role. I thought he was so annoying, and it almost ruined him for me. I'm like, oh, and I know it wasn't his fault.
Starting point is 00:05:28 It was the script, but in the way he was directed. But I just felt like I watched like a subpar episode of, Falcon and Winter Soldier, but I liked it better than the Marvels. I liked it better than Love and Thunder. I liked it better than Quantum Media because I felt like it drove the story forward as far as the MCU.
Starting point is 00:05:44 There were some good things, but you've heard both of us, Goy, where do you land? Do you land higher than me or do you land lower than Winston? I think I'm exactly with you. I said three and five, but it's not quite a three, so 2.9 I like,
Starting point is 00:06:00 I didn't even consider the decimal. I do think it's about right there for me because it feels like a bridge episode in TV and anime terms like a filler episode. It's not quite bad, but it's not quite great. Like it's closer to good than bad, but it's not quite even there. It just, it has a lot wrong in the first act where it's, the exposition is, is really heavy. It then does get interesting places in the third act. I really enjoyed the action of the third act. But my two biggest issues were it isn't focused on what it has to say. And I think that's because it was two to three to four movies, depending on which rumor you
Starting point is 00:06:39 believe. But I definitely think whatever the first movie was had an opinion. And by the time we got the final cut, the opinion was very distorted and very like brushed over. Like there were a couple moments where like say something. And I'd be like, huh, an interesting plot. And then they'd be like, but we're going to go over here. And it was a weird choice to, I mean, I get we're living in a very sensitive world, but if you've got a movie called Captain America
Starting point is 00:07:05 and he doesn't stand for something specific. I was saying the only thing he stood for was almost a direct echo of Steve defending Bucky, but that was it. There wasn't the same than I look at, say, Civil War, where he is like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:26 you don't get it and things go all hell breaks loose type scenario. I agree with Koi, and I think that's one of the things I couldn't put my finger on it with, is they do seem to at times set up so many different story elements where you can understand, why are we not addressing this? And it's because we kind of took our eraser, but you can see the faint lines of what was written there previously. And so it can get frustrating at times. And I think that's probably why I kept getting taken. out of it would be okay no okay right that's well that's the sloppily edited like kind of messy
Starting point is 00:08:04 thing i was talking about but i you know what it is for me i think it's because i was expecting it to be so bad and it wasn't and i didn't have and there was and they never broke out the song and dance which is good uh that never happened so no musical planet um they didn't tell stupid jokes and start you know they they tried to take itself seriously are you some jokes and things like every Marvel movie should have. And I thought a lot of it felt flat. Like Danny Ramirez, all of his stuff fell horribly flat, I thought for me. Like they were fighting at one point. He punches somebody. He goes, punk ass. I'm like, who's that supposed to make laugh? Like, who's, no one is laughing. Please stop doing that. Um, so there was those types of things. Um, but I enjoy, but I just enjoyed
Starting point is 00:08:46 his journey and what I think it's a matter of if you really like Anthony Mackey, you're like, okay, what they're trying to do here. And like I said, the storyline with Thunder Underbolt Ross, ultimately, can you really change? Can you make up for mistakes in the past and those types of things? I thought that worked, but I don't disagree with anything that you guys are saying. It's just a matter of enjoyment, right? If you didn't, I found myself going, I thought this was going to be like a really bad movie. And to me, it wasn't a really bad movie.
Starting point is 00:09:13 It was a subpar movie, which I said, I will disagree with you on this, Winston. I think that if you're a Marvel fan in general, that if you want to see where this movie takes us into the Avengers movies, I think you should see it in the theater. I think that you should see, I don't think you should avoid it. I think you're out of the theater reaction, you said, if you wanted to avoid this one, you can avoid it. I don't know if you should, because I think that they set up stuff,
Starting point is 00:09:38 that's if you care about the MCU. If you don't care about the MCU, just like Captain America, but I think they set up too much to avoid it. My only pushback on that, and this isn't a spoiler in that, it is at the paramount of it, and it's been in some of the release stuff, we're talking about the celestial, you know, that from internals. And that is the only thing, but you really could get the quickest of explanations as to what happened here. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You think that's the only thing? You think that's the only thing they set up in the movie? Of major import, we know that Red Hope is here. You just used. Huh? Yeah. You said of major import. They talk about a very important import.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Yeah. Well, no, no, I understand that. But even that, but even the post-credit scene that they set up, there's other things that the reason why the president wants to talk to Anthony Mackey in the first place of what he wants him to do and those things like this, there's a lot that's set up that I think is crucial to the MCU thing that they're doing. And again, if you're just a Captain America fan or just a casual Marvel fan, then yeah, you can avoid it.
Starting point is 00:10:44 There's somebody who just like to watch the Marvel movies and not really follow everything. But I guess that's part of my argument of the idea that that Coy initially, of we oh that's interesting oh we're not really talking about oh that's interesting oh we're not really talking about like you literally it felt like to me instead of going and sitting down and being like here's the meal it's like here's just a little sliver this one here's a little sliver that one his little sliver it is and i was just like oh my god pick a lane like that that was more my concern i guess and that's where i kept getting pulled out of it is because i was like i'm trying to understand. I'm not, I'm not again, I understand that. I'm just saying as far as like if you, I do think it's one of those ones that, you know, that people should, if they want to see what happens going further, I, it doesn't mean, it doesn't mean don't wait for it on Disney Plus. You definitely can wait for it on Disney Plus, but to not watch this one. Yeah. That's, I didn't, maybe I didn't articulate that very well. You're saying it's not necessary to see in the theater. And that and that hurts me because I want to support the course, this cast. Obviously, it's a black lead film. I'm.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Obviously, my boy Carl's in it, and he was fantastic. So I want the movie to do well, but at the same time, if I'm just being honest, you could wait till Disney Plus. Right. I thought you said had to kind of avoid it altogether. Oh, no, I meant specifically a theater. Specifically, I don't disagree with that. But, Corey, you know, they do set up some stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I actually liked that element of it that I was like, oh, okay, this is the first movie, because I didn't get that in the Marvel, certainly didn't get it in Love and Thunder. And a lot of these things, they try to do it with Quantumania, obviously, with Kang, but a lot of what they were trying, this seems like, okay, look, this is going further here and here are the things to pay attention to. I thought they did a decent job of setting up what comes to the future. I thought it was really interesting because it is usually a few Marvel movies a year, right? Like we usually have two or three. Daredevil is coming up, but Deadpool was the only thing we had last year that's like in the MCU Canon specific. But
Starting point is 00:12:46 even that is MCU canon, but it's kind of wrapping things up while, while sprinkling in new things and using MCU characters. So Deadpool Mulverine at points felt like an MCU movie, but it also had a lot to do that was outside of MCU. So it was really interesting watching a true MCU film after a full year. Like Deadpool Wolverine is the only thing we got last year. And it reminded me of like, oh, this is really cool to see like this step ladder of things that are going to be important.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Because I do think there's a fair amount. And I do think the overall raising of stakes via what Harrison Ford had to say, I liked those concepts. But everything that I felt like was an interesting concept, they just misuse the concept. So I still think the movie is good because it brought up interesting ideas. I still think the movie is good because of the third act. I still think Anthony Mackey deserves leading roles now that we've seen him and run. Like I really think we got a lot of those things out of it. But it was almost impressive how much they misused concepts or danced away from them out of fear of the public.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Well, I also think that they had, the fact is it was, they had a different movie at one point. And that's, it's kind of where we're going to go, though, Winston, with the,
Starting point is 00:13:51 with the article. The last thing I was going to say is, I think that is probably where I am taking it much harder than you two are. I didn't see the scenes, the scenes that you mentioned, Christian, because you were like, they put some stuff out,
Starting point is 00:14:05 geez. The two scenes they showed were, were the scene, was the fight scene mixed with, Danny Ramirez, taken out the two guys and for some reason, the bike guy just drives off the side of the road and doesn't even get hit. That one scene, and then the other scene was the scene where Harrison Ford's on the treadmill
Starting point is 00:14:23 and the Secret Service. God bless her. Again, I don't know if it's just directing. I didn't think she was a very good actress, but maybe that just been because of the script. And she came in and had this conversation, and it is such a struggle to get through. So that being said, because I didn't watch it, I don't think I had as low of expectations as you. So I think that's the other thing that's doing it too, in the same way that I'm now having more of a critical eye,
Starting point is 00:14:47 having talked with this kind of stuff with you for so long. Yeah, yeah. I think that I went in with higher hopes, and maybe that's because I wanted it to be good, and I hadn't seen anything outside of those initial couple trailers. And that's exactly probably why I didn't, because I already saw those scenes and went, uh, what am I in for?
Starting point is 00:15:04 And I didn't really get, I didn't get that. I never, there was never a time when I was checking. I was like, oh, my God, I want to get out of here. What am I watching? I was like, whatever. I literally felt like, it's fine. So I was a friend and we were just like, it wasn't terrible. It wasn't terrible.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It just was there. It was messy. But apparently there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. And there was an article that Vulture came out with calling it a tense Marvel shoot. A lot of A-list egos. And we'll get into that in a second. But before we do, I also want to tell you for once again, you guys are battling Roxy today. Roxy sits at, do you want to say, guess what she's got?
Starting point is 00:15:42 I don't even want to know. It's probably like two-fitty or some. I don't say guess, Koi? 203. 242, guys. God damn. 42. What is in the water right now? I know.
Starting point is 00:15:57 This is going to be her, I think this is going to be her third. This will be her third in a row is what she, if she, if she can beat you guys. You guys currently stand at, again, a very solid 29, only into story one. But Mike and stuff. I have a heart out at noon today because I have Valentine's Day plans. Yeah, same, same. So we're, so we're, we'll be, what we'll do is. Be aware of that while attacking this.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah, I'm only going to get, wait until we're going to do is cover this Captain America story. We'll cover like the Batman story, the X-Men thing, and then we'll get into the questions because the meat of it, I think people want to hear about the Captain America stuff. So we're going to talk about that. And here is this particular article. Now I'm going to read a lot of this because it was summarized,
Starting point is 00:16:37 for some reason yesterday, I think Vulture realized that people were clicking on that article because it was it was everybody could access it now they're charging people to read and I said nope there's someone who summarized it and I'll find that and that's exactly what happened um to quote Marvin gage trouble man there's only three things for sure taxes death and trouble captain America brave new world starring Anthony Mackey as the star spangled successor to Chris Evans retired super soldier was a troubled production according to a new report Marvel studios movie was reportedly beset by expensive reshoots unfavorable test screenings and a list egos and diva behavior causing one anonymous crew member to discered described the Hulk-sized show as tense and plagued by a politicized environment. Vulture reports that the 180 million budget Captain America for a costly reshoot, which was reported in May of 2024, directed by first-timer Julius Oana.
Starting point is 00:17:27 The film wrapped principal photography in the spring of 2023, but then returned to Atlanta for a 22-day shoot. Marvel punched up the film with new action sequences, adding the boy's actor John Carlo Esposito in a villain. role later revealed to be Seth Volio, Sidewinder, and removing Seth Rollins as a member of the Serpent Society. With
Starting point is 00:17:47 Wild Brave New World, Rapsed Principal Photography before the writer's strike and the actors strike shut down most of Hollywood in 2023. It was reported at the time that its post-production process was hampered and delayed, causing Disney to push the film from July 26, 2024 that went to Deadpole
Starting point is 00:18:04 Wolverine that date to February 14, 2025. Marble's first February release since Ant Man and the Wasp, quantum unperformed with a 106 million opening weekend. I think they're going to keep movies out of February after this one. According to Vulture, the reshoots were a course correction following test screenings that a crew member described as disastrous, resulting in Esposito's late edition and major sequences being cut or reworked.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Although Capp 4 retitled from New World Order has been characterized as an espionage political thriller, Volcher reports the character of the newly elected U.S. president, Darius Ross, replacing the late William. William Hurt created uncomfortable political residences to President Trump after Marvel said it was taking a new approach to the comic book character Sabra after Israeli actress Shira Haas was announced in a role in 2022. Then amid the Israel Hamas War, it was clarified that Ruth Batsarraf is not a Mossad agent like her comics counterpart, but former black widow turned high-ranking government U.S. official. I think everyone on the crew, this is not going to be a good film, the crew member told Volcher, with the source adding, we had a lot of of frustrations on the set. Regarding the back and forth, with the inclusion or exclusion of the Serpent Society, the source said it was on, then it was off and it was on again, that was
Starting point is 00:19:18 very expensive to do. My co-workers who spent more time on Brave New World than I did, said, yeah, this has been a really rough production. According to the crew member, Disney executives try to temper political illusions to reach a broader audience, a palpable move that has been criticized in critics mixed reviews. People are conspiracy theorists. Some people think the original title, New World Order means Jews run the world. And now there's a war. going on. It's like all these things that were not predicted when Cap 4 was given the production greenlight coming to fruition. Trump, the war in Gaza, the tensions in America right now, Vulture quotes the crew member as saying. Ford 82 has a reputation as a comagion, but the crew
Starting point is 00:19:55 member described the Star Wars actor as one of the crankiest performers they've ever dealt with and described form as a diva. According to Vulture, another source close to production said that there's no truth that Ford was unusually challenging and the star was seen palling around with his co-stars and good spirits at Tuesday's Red Carper premiere. According to the crew member, Ford seemed to hate the motion picture process to turn into the Red Hulk, even though he hulked out on stage at San Diego Comic-Con and has since spent the press tour praising the fun he's had in the MCU. When Harrison was done, he was done.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Everybody was trying to scramble to make him happy that made for an awkward work environment. Reshoot's are part of making any movie like this with a big budget, but this isn't Marvel's First Rodeo. Entire sequences we shot won't make it into the film, and that is very exciting. I'm not going to say the director was not equipped to handle the production, basically dealing with A-list egos was the issue. It was mainly just Harrison Ford, so that was a little disappointing. They continued. At the end of the day, it was the most tense Marvel shoot I've ever worked on.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Everyone kind of felt their buttholes tightening a little bit. It's like, oh, Marvel Studios, Captain America, Brave New World. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yada, yeah. Okay. So they end with a, they end with a butthole comment. The butthole tightening comment. So I will tell you, though, this is like this article is, is all stuff that we just kind of like
Starting point is 00:21:10 have been speculating for weeks, months, almost a year. It's like, okay, the expensive reshoots, we know it's not really, Mike made a great point the other day, and I hate to say that, but it's true. He said, you know, the truth is, the $180 million that they are reporting is the $180, is that that's how much the movie
Starting point is 00:21:29 cost that you watched. The one that you saw, that finished product, that's the 180. You asked us what the budget is? What about the other stuff? Well, that's not what you asked. Guess that's how much that call. And that's basically what it is, because there's no way with all that stuff cut out and everything. There's no way that the movie costs 180.
Starting point is 00:21:47 So as far as Harrison Ford, you hear those things. It's funny because I've interviewed him before. People have interviewed him before. It's kind of his schick to do the, what do you mean? He's a funny guy also. He is, but he's, regret you, oh man. And he knows it, plays into it. I don't know if I buy the diva behavior stuff as much of it's a matter of, yeah, 82.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Oh, an 82-year-old guy doesn't like the Hulk makeup and doesn't like to do all that stuff. Really? Colin Farrell didn't like doing it as Penguin and he's in his 40s. Jennifer Lawrence gave up after two movies. She said, I know, I ain't sitting in this damn chair. So I don't know. Maybe it's just me, you know, trying to tech old Harrison Ford. But a lot of this other stuff, though, when it comes to the set itself, it just seems like, yeah, it was just, it was messy.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Now, the political side of it is interesting because, look, this is the thing. thing if you're going to do a political movie in general you got to know the world changes every day every hour every minute so you got to stick to your guns no matter what you're going to do because if you start shifting stuff around because you get nervous then don't do that kind of movie koi how do you feel about this uh this overall article man uh i think the harrison ford i'm with you like i don't know if it's me defending harrison ford but um i i've only had a couple interaction with them that were hyper positive. And I do think he leans into the curmudgeon brand more than he actually is.
Starting point is 00:23:10 He was downright, Jolly, like one of the longer conversations I had with him about making movies. And he, every quote I've heard is him pursuing this one, him liking the Marvel idea and seeing friends of his do Marvel movies and thinking he wanted to play in that sandbox. And all the press I've seen him do for shrinking and everything else, I feel like he's actually in the opposite place in his life right now where he's trying to appreciate everything. So I'm just going to not for me. As far as the, you know, hostile environment on the set, like that's unfortunate. It's always hard when it's an anonymous source because you don't know if someone just wants like their little pat on the back from an interview.
Starting point is 00:23:44 But since I'm not getting it, like how is that going across? I do think the political element is what doesn't work for me in this film is it's a movie called Captain America Brave New World. And the last thing I would describe this movie as is brave. I think the movie itself has a lot going for it. And I think the movie itself does a lot of MCU building. And I think the movie itself shows a lot of great acting and a great idea for story. But the bravery would come from making a statement about having a red rage-filled Hulk monster in the White House in 2025. And that imagery is in this movie.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And the things that are in this movie allude to it. But every time it can be an actual statement, it kind of goes away. Like there's a line in this movie in the third act. between, and I won't give it away because it's the day of release, but there's a line between Anthony Mackey and Harrison Ford that is a theme in the film that I thought would be a very interesting thing to do in 2016, 2020, or 2024. Like, there is a theme about the two of them that I really thought like, hey, there's your movie and they never address it again. And if you're going to make a Captain American movie, I do think politics are a part of it. And I know the average
Starting point is 00:24:55 commenter of YouTube is like, keep politics out of my of movies and keep politics out of comic movies. But like, one, artist political, two, comics are political, and three, Captain America. So I do- Like neutering the character that would have the most to say at a movie about Sam Wilson. Like, what I always think of with Sam Wilson is he represents America in a way that Steve Rogers never could.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And he represents an America that is different than the one usually can see conveyed by this character. I feel like we saw Sam Wilson convey. in Captain America more in Falcon Winter Soldier because it was addressing his America. And there was so much they could have done with an, you know, imprisoned for 30 years. I say a Bradley that was wrongfully imprisoned. That represents a lot of the wrongs happening. And it even represents a VP we just had running for president.
Starting point is 00:25:47 So I would have loved to have seen some things said instead of some things winked at. Maybe that's what it is for me. And then I'll get back to the article is, is, you know, had mentioned kind of the half-baked story points. I think it's not just story. I think it's the themes and the stuff that you were saying you want to challenge. And ironically, New World Order to me fits better to what this movie is. And it almost feels like Brave New World would have been a better fit for whatever the movie was. As far as Harrison Ford being grumpy, the man is 80-something and has made millions. If he wants to be fucking grumpy, unless he's calling people out,
Starting point is 00:26:26 they names, he can do what he wants, who cares? And on top of the fact that I would argue everything I have also heard about Harrison Ford, I haven't had the honor of meeting him is that he is super sweet. You know what I'm saying? And he just doesn't
Starting point is 00:26:42 he doesn't suffer fools. So if you don't know what you're talking about or you're being obsessively annoying been around forever, he'd probably be like, get away from me. Exactly. He's like, what are they asking? He was like, who shot first? You were, you were, uh, Grito.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Who cares? And maybe this crew member just was annoying at the end of Jones fame. Like it just, maybe, but you, but that's the thing though is everybody that you, if, and how much did he actually really talk to Harrison for, right?
Starting point is 00:27:13 It was just like, oh, Harrison's, you know, again, you're having problems getting the 82 year old guy to move real fast and get to the, and get to the set and want to be, you know, moving around and jumping around.
Starting point is 00:27:25 It's like, it's Harrison Ford. He's like, okay, yeah, it's and if he was goofing around with everybody else, that's one thing. But it's more about to me, because you can't point a finger and say, all right, if all these movies were the biggest problems, it was Harrison Ford being a commudgeon on set? No. I think the biggest problem was that they didn't stick to the guns
Starting point is 00:27:45 of what they wanted the movie to be. What I totally agree with you with 100%, Winston, is that the look of the villain was awful. It was really bad and especially knowing what he looks like in the comics, man. Yeah, it did change. And, you know, but what I will say about this, and I don't know if you guys agree with me or disagree with me on this. And I didn't mind this because I liked the movie, but I felt this was more a sequel to the
Starting point is 00:28:10 Incredible Hulk than I did a fourth Captain America movie. I would agree with that. I would make the argument that, you know, I've since come around on this argument with Black Panther, but I used to say this is more of a killmonger movie than a a Tchala movie, but I've kind of swung back around on that. But this one in particular, it really was so focused on Ross. And moments when we would be like, oh, I would love to explore more of what Sam is kind of thing. No, I'm telling you, it was more about the cat, even the villain.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I mean, the main villain is obviously Hulk villain. It was his story, all that stuff. Yeah. Exactly. The fact that it was a Hulk villain, I think the fact that, like, you, they tried it. They tried. moment right as we're going from act two to act three that I know you all probably know what I'm talking about where he uh Sam has a conversation with someone and that felt like a means of being
Starting point is 00:29:04 like this is a Sam movie but even that then felt like the conversation he had right almost kind of felt more of like even though it was supposed to be about him it kind of felt about them you know what I'm saying like oh yeah you can really focus on so anyway anyway it is yeah I think a huge problem with this film is that the marketing, the film itself has a ticking clock element and the marketing negated that 100%. You know what? Someone
Starting point is 00:29:33 brought up in the, I think Mike brought it up actually again, damn I hate to give him that much credit. So, um, all right, Mike. I know. He made this point, which is valid. It's the first time, at least that I remember, and Cole, you probably have a better memory on this than me, but Kevin Feige did not do an interview
Starting point is 00:29:50 with the red carpet for this one. Oh, wow. Didn't even talk about it. that's interesting also was there no Marvel fanfare in your guys's uh movie what do you mean um oh the Marvel like um dun dunan-na-na-na-na no no no no no no no no no no no no no i didn't even i don't even remember which is so the same thing as civil war civil war didn't either if maybe that's a civil war you're like some sort of build-up and it just immediately pops up the the you know 1992 or whatever the the thing was from when that happened.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Oh, but it ties, no, but it ties, yeah, but Winston, but it eventually goes into that, though. You're right, because I just, I just watched it. It starts with the event that happens with, with Bucky, but then after that over, then, then it goes into the intro. Is it, there's no intro at all? That's interesting. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Anyway, I'm, let's, before we move on from this topic, I do want to say, you know, ask you guys, as we always do with the, because the box office now with this coming up, you've got some people, that were guessing anywhere between, you know, 85 to 90. It does seem, though, what I've noticed, I feel like the audience is going to like this movie better than critics and, and not loving, but just saying basically, it's fine. Critics, I think critics are diving way too deep into it, way too deep into it. And there were certain times I was reading one, I'm like, get, there was one review that I read yesterday.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And I literally said out loud, I was like, get over yourself. I'm like, you are not as special as you think you are. I'm like, I'm like, look at where I went to school. And I'm like, give me a break. But either way, I think they're going to like it. Does that mean that people are going to go out and see it? Because of, you know, I don't know. Overall, I think this movie is going to do, I think, 87 million opening weeks.
Starting point is 00:31:53 weekend, which is not great, but three day weekend, Winston, what do you think? I mean, the fact that you have a three day weekend, I will lend it to, especially because I'll be honest, man, I mean, you look at the audience score and even when you go under my page, the number of people that are like, I guess I understand why you feel that way. I had a great time. So I'm going to say it'll probably hit like 90. I'll split the difference between 90 and 95, 93. I think it'll hit 93.
Starting point is 00:32:24 That's where I was going to go. I was going to split the difference. I went to AMC last night to see my number one favorite movie the weekend. And it was slammed. Like it was in crazy, like it felt like Marvel. Pattington? Yeah, I love Paddington so much. Was it good the third way, even without the director?
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah, so this weekend, I, Paddington, the Gorge Cat 3. Like, I loved this weekend. This weekend was something for everybody. Okay, I got to watch the Gorge. We started watching last night. but then we realized I didn't want to invest and know that I was going to turn off for 15 minutes to go to sleep so yeah you want to watch that one as an arc but uh the board is also exceptional like so I gave the first two Paddington's five stars I gave this
Starting point is 00:33:02 Paddington four stars a market step now it's still better than most what's still a minus okay because I was missing the director um it's missing um what's her name from uh that fish movie uh Sally Hawkins oh right right right uh but it has so much heart and love and dude Olivia Coleman in this is amazing. Like she is, he's Paddington good. But I digress. But when I went last night,
Starting point is 00:33:25 it was slammed. I'm gonna go 96 million just so I'm a little high. Okay. Fair. I just realized what this movie was for me. Did you both go to AMC to see this? Um, I did.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Yeah. Did you actually see the shield, collapsible shield popcorn bucket while you were there? No. Okay. So I'm in line and, and I'm thinking to myself, damn,
Starting point is 00:33:47 that buck, the shield and it collared that is dope i might have to spend the money on this and it's going to be a treat for myself and i got close to and i was like this shit looked cheap as hell yeah that is kind of how i felt about the movie i said hey yo anthony macky to leave bro and carl in this red hulk this shit cheap as hell yeah it looks really back i'm like i just carl came by my screening i thought of you winston oh that's cool man he is he is he is he is the one of the sweetest individuals in the whole world I'm curious people are putting their predictions in there and a lot of people are in the 80 85 area. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:34:25 All right, we're going to move on. We have some other stuff to talk about before we get to the questions. One of the things, this is not comic book movie related, but I just saw this today. Star Wars, there's a report on comic movie that the Mara Jade, that they're going to, they're developing a TV show. And I'm like, really? Like, that doesn't really line up to anything I've ever heard about how they feel about Mara Jade over there.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And then I just kind of did some digging from what I hear, that's not true at all. I'm not even going to report on it because when I hear it's absolutely false. So there you go. Anyway, let's get to this next story because this is a good one. The Batman star, Robert Patton says when part two begins shooting. Batman star Robert Pattinson shared a big update on when Matt Reeves long-delayed sequel begins shooting and appears the movie is on track for its scheduled 2027 release. Batman was released in 2022, and by the time the Batman 2 arrives in theaters,
Starting point is 00:35:23 roughly five and a half years have passed since we first met Robert Pattinson's Dark Night. That's a long wait for the sequel, and the movie will also have competition for whatever DC Studios dreams up for the next DCUs, Batman. Following multiple delays, the Batman Part 2 does appear to be taking shape and Pattinson shared an update at the Mickey 17 premiere yesterday evening, asked when shooting begins, the actor said, I think at the end of the year, that's crazy. And I know what it's about, but I can't tell anyone, but it's very cool.
Starting point is 00:35:52 It's very exciting. The interviewer was pretty clueless. I love that. And under the belief of Batman's Reiki had already started shooting. As a result, Pattinson didn't really get the chance to share any additional updates about where filmmaker and Matt Reeves plans to take the franchise. That is the most polite way for that person to say, this, you know, Koi, so many times you and I have been sitting there and watching some interviewers and we're like, turn into Sebastian, Niscalco, what are you doing? Ask a follow-up.
Starting point is 00:36:27 It's like, what are you doing? Wait a minute. Hold on. You're not filming already? It's like, shut up. Ask about what the movie is. Ask what the villain is. What are you doing? It drives me crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:40 It's like sometimes I remember when I went and I, and it's where I met Kelly, Kelly Carter, because if you don't know, Kelly, she's an amazing interviewer. She's an amazing interview. And I went and I went and saw the, it was the Lion King premiere. And they were doing it. And I always kind of go, let's see who they have asking these questions.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Because there's always a generic, no one listening, like, okay, and they just, and I'm like, and I'm like, I didn't know Kelly at Thomas.
Starting point is 00:37:04 And right away, I'm like, let's say, and just crushes it, listens, asks a question, but because of the answer that was given, spins off in a different direction
Starting point is 00:37:15 because she wants to stay in the moment, And because I remember having on her, I was, I told Marshall, who was at Disney at the time, publicist, how impressed I was with her. And we had her on Clare Live, like, right afterwards because I was just like, she was so good. But like, I could hear the frustration in that article, Coy, did you, but, but I love the sass of like, I'm a, I'm an analyst, but I know I could have done it better. I also think, like, when you watch those clips, it's always so hard when you're in our job where you're like, just let me play. Like, I imagine an actor when they watch actors not acting well. Like, why didn't I get this role? Like I went out for this. That's how I feel hosting half the time. But I also, I ran into Marshall yesterday. Paddington. Oh, is he there? That's good.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah, he's doing great. Met his hubby for the first time. But what's it called? I think this is a reasonable timeline. I think that's where we're going to conversation. If this starts shooting at the end of the year, that gives it, you know, a three or four months shoot into quarter one next year, maybe early quarter two, and then six months post-production and then have it out in the fall.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Like I think that works. I hope it has a long production time. Like I hope it actually shoots practically like the first one did. Like I don't know how long the first film shot, but that movie felt like it wasn't made. Okay, an example. I worry that Fantastic Four started shooting after Superman wrapped because that meant they had everything kind of already constructed
Starting point is 00:38:38 and then the actors just went in, did their thing, and left. When a movie's practical, it tends to take a little longer. It tends to be more organic on set on the day. So I'm hoping a longer production for the Batman because that means like it'll be more like the first film which felt like a Fincher movie and lived in sets, especially after the Penguin 2. I mean, this is a high, high stakes thing.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Five years in waiting, the Penguin 2 being that good and it's got to follow up the Batman. I think this is reasonable time frame. What do you think, Winston? I was still caught up on both A, I don't know if you saw the text I sent you because Yeah, yeah, I remember. Stay on target, stay on target.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Stay on target. But I mean, look, I am glad that they're getting it underway. I think Koi is spot on that when you're dealing with a more practical situation, you want it to take that time. I would be worried if they were just like, oh, yeah, no, we're done in like two months. And because then that would mean heavily into way more like kind of CGI, whatever, whatever. And again, we're dealing with a more realistic Batman. So even if they are going to somehow involve Clayface, as we have, you know, kind of alluded to things like that or whatever else, you really want it to feel as realistic as possible.
Starting point is 00:39:55 So you need to take your time to do these things. So that's fine. I'm fine with it being earlier than it is. I'm still fascinated by the stories of these interviews you're talking about just being complete ass. That's funny to me. It's just a... Yeah, I don't want to get into it again. Oh.
Starting point is 00:40:14 It drives me crazy. It drives me crazy. Anyway, all right. We got more to talk about this. A big rumor as far as X-Men casting. We're going to get into that in just a second. Before we do, I tell you guys every single day. I give you the best options for some great sponsors here.
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Starting point is 00:45:54 so we got some other stuff you know what i wanted to tell both you guys and I know you're both going to appreciate this. Right now, Sam, who's been doing the, I'm going to show this to you guys in a second, but Sam has been doing the reactions with me, and we got to, we just did, we just released Captain Marvel today. And it's funny because she,
Starting point is 00:46:15 she didn't want to, you know, promote her social media, such as for our kids and the thing. She was like, you know, I'm going to create one for my, for the Sam React's thing for just, so the fans can see certain things I put in there. She's like,
Starting point is 00:46:27 you think anyone will will follow me so today i wrote on the captain marvel thing she's got like a thousand followers already wow let's go it's great so and she's like she's like what the hell's happening um so we did shoot the end game reaction right and you guys have to remember how attached she is to tony stark right this is her journey oh i'm going to show you just a little bit of this so people can see it but she has so right at this point you know, the snap had happened and from Tony and she's like, she was cheering and then now she sees him. This is when she sees him kind of like, you know, in the shits. And look at me, looking like when she's going to run power.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Is he going to die? Shut up, Christian. She's mad at you. Oh, yeah. Watch. You'll say, wait. It gets significantly, you can say it gets like. significantly more and more oh poor baby oh it goes on for quite a while so that's
Starting point is 00:47:55 i've also never reacted to someone reacting before it's surprisingly tragic i know she she was someone wrote it she's grieving she was grieving and she grieves throughout the movie but that one like like that's that's a fraction like i literally almost went like this because it I felt so bad for her. Dude. But yeah. Good for her. Because like,
Starting point is 00:48:18 I mean, look, both Infinity War and Endgame, both the, both snaps. I've never, I've never done this before, but I'm going to do it once.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I'm putting Ed Harrell in timeout. I love Ed. He's going in timeout. He'll tell me how to promote my show. It's like, you go a screenshot, not the whole clip. I didn't show the whole clip.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I didn't get it. There's no footage on there. No footage on there. I just saw crying. I'm standing it. So, anyway. I love it, but he's getting, he's getting time out for that one.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Okay, we have other things to discuss. And this rumor, I got to bring up, man, because this is an interesting one to say the least. So let me, I don't know why it's not, is that it? Oh, that's it. Okay. So here is, and this is once again from our buddy Jeff Snyder. And this is a big one. Do you guys hear this one yet?
Starting point is 00:49:09 Is this about a certain Southern Bell? It is. I love this. I love. I love this rumor. This is my favorite rumor I've heard so far, and I hope Jeff is right. He usually is. So let's see.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Margaret Qualley, rumored to be in contention to play rogue. Another X-Men casting rumor here, and this time we're hearing that the substance star Margaret Qualley might be in the mix to play fan favorite Powerhouse Rogue. The X-Men casting rumors continue to swirl, and the latest report is sure to get a lot of attention. According to the hot mics, Jeff Schneider! The substance star Margaret Qualey is being eyed for the role of Rogue. We have no idea if she's being seriously considered for just a person of interest. I feel like after this rumor goes out, she's going to be a person of interest.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I think people are going to lose their minds about this one. Rogue's real name is Anna Marie is easily one of the most popular members of the team and fans have been hoping to see a comic, accurate take on the sassy Southern Bell in live action for many years. Anna Pacquin played a younger version of the character in 20th century's Fox X-Men movies, but she didn't really have much in common with her comic book counterpart. Her Quayle's turn in the substance has made her hot commodity in Hollywood, so it was probably only a matter of time before a major superhero franchise came calling, though we're still waiting on our official announcement.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Marvel does seem to be making moves on this project behind the scenes. No director is attached with the amount of casting rumors from various reliable sources doing the rounds would seem to indicate that the studio is quietly assembling its new lineup. Okay. this to me is as perfect casting as David Cornswood was to get the Superman role. I think this is perfect casting. Perfect. You sign this up, you sign the deal now.
Starting point is 00:50:52 You don't look at anybody else. It's perfect. What do you think about this casting once? I am not familiar with Margaret Qualley's game. I don't know if I can answer that question. I just, I know she was in. Have you seen once upon a time in Hollywood? I got halfway through it because I was in a phase of I can't watch three hour movies right now.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And so I just, because I was watching it at home. If I had seen it in theater, I would have been fine. I need to go and finish it. But I'm just genuinely not familiar with her work. So that is going to be harder for me to give that answer per se. But I trust you in that regard. You don't really miss on Cassie. Ever since Robert Pattinson, you trust me a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:51:35 I just, if you say that you think somebody's, she's perfect for it. She's perfect for it. And I'll tell you, like, I was yesterday years old, or maybe last month, when I, I didn't even know Andy McDowell. I didn't realize Andy McDowell was her mom. I, I, I had no idea. I had absolutely no idea. The end, coach, I have things to say.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Oh, no, I don't want to hear from you. I don't want to hear from you. Lose it. Okay. I love this actress. and I think she's the perfect combination of all the things they need rogue to be correctly. She just did a southern accent and driveway dolls. I think she can nail it.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I think Storm. I think Storm needs to be storm. I think Rogue needs to be rogue. I think Wolverine. Like, go comic accurate this time. I get that Brian Singer had his mutant movies that did well. And Anna Pacquin got to be Canadian or whatever the hell she is. But like, they need this rogue to be a rogue and from the south.
Starting point is 00:52:29 So she can do the Southern accent. If you go as far back as like the nice guy, she does the, the standoffish, quirky well, but then you've got once in time in Hollywood where she's just like hot. And you've got the substance where she like plays hot. Like I'm pretty sure her butt was in frame more than most actor screen time in 2024.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Like they like, what dude. They literally know how to play the attractiveness of the character with her being kind of like an untouchable. And rogue needs to be a pent up aggression of like, you know, repressed sexuality. So I think, put all those movies together like i'm a big big fan of hers please yes yeah it's it really is perfect
Starting point is 00:53:10 casting and like she looks like her it's like i'm i'm i think this is perfect i really do think it is perfect and i never thought of it i love when i hear a casting that i'm like oh yeah she played that in pieces together like that's it i mean there's no one else i really want to see play this role anymore except yeah this immediately like i i personally um didn't see the kee he palmer thing until i watched one of them days and then watching one of them days it clicked but now i only got to have that kiki palmer dream for one month because now it's margaret quali like it immediately like i i see the vision how old is she i don't know enough i talk about her but yeah exactly so that's that's my point here right they're going after younger actresses in general um well no she's 30 uh did i read that wrong oh 90 i saw 94
Starting point is 00:53:59 sorry i saw 94 she's 30 so still she was 32 so i feel a little guilty about the butt comment, but I stand by it at 30. Either way. So she's, but she's, I think she's perfect. I'll tell you, there's another rumor about casting. That's interesting. And I also think if they go this route, which we keep saying, I don't know if they're going to do that,
Starting point is 00:54:20 but if they do, this is also perfect casting. The rumor that Kang will return the MCU and could be played by seven star, Tranmole-Tum. This is perfect. Fantastic. Perfect. If they actually get him to just to say, okay, we need to finish off the Kang storyline. We need somebody to do it. This guy can do what essentially Jonathan Majors was setting up with Kang and how he was approached. Because it's a similar approach in Severance. According to New Rumor Marvel Studios does indeed have planned to reintroduce Kang to the MCU, but it won't be Jonathan Majors during the Conquering. Last week, a pretty shaky rumor that Marvel Studios might be considering bringing. bringing Jonathan Majors back to the MCU as Kang to the rounds online.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Jeff Schneider Desired to discuss the Kang situation on this week's episode of The Hot Mike, and he believes that there are plans to reintroduce the villain to the MCU at some point, but it doesn't sound like he'd be sticking around. Apparently, Marvel wants to wrap up the Kang storyline, bring the character back for what could just be a handful of scenes. Snyder has heard that Marvel has a plan to say goodbye to Kang, and that Dr. Doom could be the one who kills him in one of the upcoming Avengers movies.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Majors would not reprise the role, as Snyder has also heard that Severin's actor Trammell-Tilman might be in talks to step in as the powerful time traveler. How much stocks should we put into this? Steiner does caution this is very much a rumor for the time being, but Coleman Domingo recently confirmed that he spoke with Marvel about potentially playing a new version of Kang, which would obviously suggest that the studio is searching for another actor for the role. Majors was found guilty of two mis-mirich. Okay. Okay. So let's just go. I want to talk more so about the casting of this if they indeed do this. Because I also thought that from what what Coleman had said on Josh Hart to show that he didn't necessarily have those conversations that his agents might have, but other people would have had it. But he didn't want to do that in general. So maybe they just shut it down. But I do think that this is something they are going to wrap up. There's going to be a way to do it. I think having doom kill him would be a great idea because it just shows like, oh, so that guy wasn't as powerful as we thought. It's that guy.
Starting point is 00:56:28 but this guy playing him oh my god with a second both mark quilly and him back to back coy i was like yeah this is perfect uh i personally think the idea of doom taking out kang is the only reason like i i thought from the beginning the reason we'd get king dynasty is to show his power a la thanos and infinity war and then at the end have doom take him out like i've been saying it for years they got receipts but then loki season two happened and i personally feel like they wrapped up the only good take on Kang. Like we've had some rough takes on Kang, and I think the good take on Kang is in Loki.
Starting point is 00:57:05 So I'm kind of cool with wrapping up Kang in Loki. And so my immediate reaction is if you're going to bring Kang back, I wanted someone amazing like Coleman Domingo, like this guy that plays Milchick, that would be the goal. But also I realize immediately seconds later, like if we cast him as Kang, he gets a couple of scenes get killed, then we don't get Milchick in the MCU.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I'd rather see a dude as Bishop. I'd rather see the guy get to play time traveling. You don't know if he's good or bad. He's got some nefariousness behind the eyes. He's got the hair, the 70s. Like, he's Bishop to me immediately. Coy, you cook in the day, baby. That would, Bishop is a significantly better casting.
Starting point is 00:57:42 For him? Yeah, just because of what, of what Coy is played up. Both the vibe, but I think specifically the energy of what Coy is saying, if you're bringing him back, you were bringing him back for at most, maybe 20 minutes. Nah, don't do that to that guy. like especially because I feel like he is really starting to hit his stride now
Starting point is 00:58:04 because of severance. And so this is the moment that his stock is rising. I don't want... Maybe he just wants the payday. Maybe he wants the payday. Just takes like one movie. But if he,
Starting point is 00:58:14 but I can see this dude playing Bishop for 10 years. If, if, how old is he? Winston needs to say it because I can't. What, Black don't crack? Well said. So, all right.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Well, we, either way, the casting news has been off the hook. So I really, I like it. I really like it. What say you guys? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. We're going to get to the questions. He's only two years older to me. He's 39. He looked like he photo fat.
Starting point is 00:58:45 But he just kind of doesn't have a definition. It's what that is. He plays. He's also jacked out of his mind. He is. He's a big dude. Yeah, he's a big dude. And he carries himself big, which is that military. bishopness to me. Yeah, he's great.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Are you guys both watching Severance? I'm behind, but yes. I'm all caught up now and he's, he really, yeah, he's, he shines, he was great in season one, but he really shines in this season. Oh yeah, I think he's great. I love that casting. All right, we got some questions to go through. So before we do, I'm just close up with the final two, I want to tell you guys, again,
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Starting point is 01:02:09 mando um we love you know and i'm telling you guys you want to get some good good meal plan i'm i'm hooking you up so you want to help out the show just do just that all right guys real quick before we get into it too uh coy you're right around that 50 000 mark man you're almost there what's going on getting there i just posted my non spoiler long form cats in america yes This morning, I posted my full spoiler review for Captain America, Brave New World, and in it is two ways I would fix the MCU. So I break down the problems I saw specifically in that film that spread out to the rest. And I break down all that in my video, including the marketing and lots of stuff with specificity. So check those out.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I'm doing lots of videos going forward. I got my Paddington video going up tomorrow. I love that bear that loves Marmalade. I really want to grow that page. And I've really been enjoying it and taking Christian's advice. I actually made today's thumbnail with him in mind. It was a really weird moment. I was like, what would Christian do?
Starting point is 01:02:58 So in honor of all that, please check out my page over there. I'm trying to grow it. And before Winston plugs, I always plug Winston's too whenever I think of it. The dude's editing is what I aspire to do when I have the patience that I never will have. So it's like a pipe dream to edit as well as Winston does. So his page is if you want panash in style, if you want like a crazy jazz mixed with like a cat on the street, you go to my page. That is quite a good, not only compliment, but like a. analogy um but yeah you can find me at the swaggy blurred uh on all the platforms but specifically
Starting point is 01:03:33 here on youtube i was a little dark as you can see i've been moving here i'm in the new space and you know it's going to take me some time to set some stuff up but i'm excited about the stuff's going on i put my out of theater reaction i will get my uh spoiler review out later today so you want to check that out as well uh but other than that man uh everybody have a wonderful valentine's day let's get to these questions all right so speaking of which you guys You need about, what did I say, 249? 243. No, not 243.
Starting point is 01:04:02 I think it's 243. Oh. Yeah, it's only 240. 242. 242. So, I took, there you go. So, and currently you're at 66. So we got, we got a journey.
Starting point is 01:04:11 We got a journey. You got almost 200 questions. We have 56 minutes. 56 minutes to do about 180 questions. All right. All right. Alex Frazier, no Hulk in Cap 4 despite the connection's thoughts. I don't think they wanted to pay Ruffalo the money.
Starting point is 01:04:26 This one around because they'd, they already exceeded their expenses. Yeah. I think it would have felt shoehorned in as well. Like it would have been a lot of Hulk. Coy, quick question just as far as how we ended up with red. I thought that it was, never mind. I realized that I'll go into.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Yeah, there was spoilers. Alex Fraser also says, Malignant or Saving Private Ryan for reaction. I asked Sam, she has seen saving Private Ryan. So I don't really know if there's anybody on my crew that hasn't seen that I got to ask Tina. I am doing Nosferatu with Tina that'll land on Friday,
Starting point is 01:05:01 which I've seen, but she's never seen it before. So that lands on Friday. And Malignan, I don't, which one was that? Oh, that's a James Wan movie, right? I've actually never seen that movie. I definitely haven't seen that. Would anybody tune into that one? I wonder. Demeter Jones, weren't you the guys who said Drake was done?
Starting point is 01:05:20 To which I said, Demeter, who was that directed to? That is the fastest number of. album of the year. So I think you're wrong. It's also been six weeks. What do you mean the fastest number one album of the year? Nothing has happened. I think he was talking to Koi on that one because he said you guys. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:05:41 He's very popular. So is McDonald's. I don't think he's done. I just think he's not good. But that's a difference. There's a difference to say someone's done. He's clearly not done because he's he's touring in Australia. He was. Doing very well. Very well. Yeah, he's doing well. this person is just looking for some fun
Starting point is 01:06:00 Mr. 101, Coy Winston, what's your thoughts on Elon Musk? You don't want to hear my, that's not what the show is. You don't want to do this. He exists. We have a new member with GT86 Ben. Thank you, GT86 Ben. Mike Revel, chances that Bucky survives Thunderbolts. He's my favorite MCU character.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Just think he bites a dust. I still think end game time machine brings back young cats. No, I don't, I don't think he's, he's going anywhere. He might get sidelined a little bit, but I don't, I don't think he's going anywhere. I hope they want to kill him because of the tone of the trailer, but I think they know they need Sebastian Stan because of his love. Like, Sebastian loves the MCU like we do and he's in it. Like I hope they don't agree with that guy. Let me, let me, let me show you, let me show you what happens. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:06:51 This is really probably a servant. Hey, hey, hey, guys. Yeah, yeah. It's, it's Kevin. Hey, listen. Um, yeah, I know. You know, I remember we're all excited about things. Yeah, we're going to promote all the new people.
Starting point is 01:07:01 You know, yeah, yeah, the Sebastian stand death scene. Yeah, cut that out. Yeah, cut that out. You know, edit it. I don't care. You just, we got to bring them back. Okay, that's it. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Look, if you want to talk about predictions, I do think somebody dies. I think it's Taskmaster. Yeah, if Taskmaster's not in a lot of footage. Like, everything they've released, it's the five of them, not the six of them. I think Taskmaster is the one. one that dies. We'll see. We'll see. Beagle Studios, despite me not seeing the movie until tomorrow, I can already tell this is a drop it. Let's Move On film. It does seem that way. I heard that the set was intense. Yeah, Fregey was at the premiere, but ever spoke. The score doesn't feel like a Marvel movie.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up. I'm so glad you brought that up. I said that. Do you a score? I guess. I said it was overscored. I didn't think it fit a lot of it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I missed you saying that because you and I are on the exact same page. The score, the score to me took me out of the movie at times. It was it overpowered things and it does, it did not feel like it, like it fit into the movie. I'm sorry I missed that.
Starting point is 01:08:04 It's okay because I was, I was like, I said that and you didn't respond. I said, oh, I was so proud of myself. I was like, for once I'm like actually listening to score and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:08:12 this is FD up Christian would be so proud. No, you know, I know what happened at that moment when you were talking. So the, the good news and the bad news is that the reason, the bad news is it wasn't listening to it at that point because the good news was on Matt Sarah's podcast we had on
Starting point is 01:08:26 WWE superstar Carrying and cross. And he came into studio and he was here. And he had just, right as he was leaving, that's the studio, he had sent me a message and he's on its way, and I had to respond to him because of the stuff going on that. So that's where I lost it. So I apologize. Oh, it's all good.
Starting point is 01:08:41 But he's only a WWE superstar that took his attention away, Winston. I can't argue with that. I don't have any WWE superstars in my house. So that was, that was it. But I'm totally with you. I made the point yesterday. that yeah it just was so jarring i thought the music was was i think that was honestly and i you have talked about this a lot how the score really does set the tone for everything i don't
Starting point is 01:09:06 think that i understood how score can mess something up yeah until this movie and then that i was like oh this is what christians talking about yeah it felt it didn't it fell at the times that they were it was trying to manipulate you to feel a certain way and it wasn't earning it it was like now you should feel here's the big hero theme feel wonderful I don't want to feel wonderful because I'm paying attention to a theme when it's not just bringing me through the the you know the movie itself. It's like I shouldn't be aware of it. I should just feel it when when you really listen to music and like like listen to some of that Alan
Starting point is 01:09:40 Sebastian stuff when he's doing it. It just it's seamless. It just kind of goes along with the actual thing. This it was yeah, it was drawing. I did not like the music at all. Beagle Studios part two. Plus it seemed Marvel just wanted to get to Daredevil Thunderbolts are fantastic for his marketing for those already started. late last year. I don't think it's a coincidence that they put it out in February, knowing that
Starting point is 01:10:00 they're like, okay, we got Daredevil next and then Thunderbolts and then Fantastic Four, because they could easily put Thunderbolts in February if they wanted to. Granted, they probably also did it because of Black History Month, but I think that they could have, and I think that they realized it wasn't going to be a big hit for them. I also think they should have marketed Spider-Man more because it is great, but releasing it in four weeks was a crazy thing to do with a 10-episode show, And then to have, I get to not be conflicting with Daredevil, but Charlie Cox as Daredevles in the Spider-Man show. Like, how great would that have been if they were both on?
Starting point is 01:10:32 So, yeah, weird release and weird marketing this year. Derek's throwing in some support. Thank you, Derek. He throws in a big one here. He says, Can't Watch Live today. So I'm going to drop 250 spots. Thank you, Derek. I watched Cap 4, and I loved it.
Starting point is 01:10:45 It wasn't amazing, but it was a good movie. It was a black man, former Marine, and brother. It hits some deep feels for me about the burden on one shoulder and some great subtext. I love that. Love the show, as always, brings great entertainment and smiles to me on days when I'm struggling to see good in people and not their greed. You are the farthest thing from greedy, my friend. Whatever the opposite of greed is, it's too fit. That's you.
Starting point is 01:11:07 That's you. And in general, that's in general. Derek's just a really good dude. And I'm glad that you love them. And I always like to hear that when people say, you know, that they dug the movie, unless it was to love and thunder. Roman Fedorek on Derek's note, what helps you guys be hopeful? How does Superman keep hope when he gets a can to his head? Also, I still plan on reading All-Star and studying soups ran into some speed bumps.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I'll tell you, the thing that hopefulness for me is, as I mentioned many times over, is that my family, obviously, that's an easy one. But I think just surrounding yourself with really good people and people that don't stress you out, right? There's nothing against the amount of people that we used to work with. And there were a lot of good people that we did with, but like handling that many different personalities in the Shmodendis was it almost exploded my head. It just almost destroyed me. I only work with people with people now that like, you know, like this is, I have, I don't have those stressful situations anymore with this crew. Regardless how often I have to deal with Mike Kalinowski. But other than that, it's a, you guys have to see the best thing that happened on yesterday's show, by the way.
Starting point is 01:12:11 And it was, it was like, I was my personal therapy session because Mike, his, for some reason, you know, he has his tech problems and his camera went, his sound went off. the audience could hear Mike we could hear Mike but Mike couldn't hear us Stefan I so I said I look at him right in the camera I go Mike he's like I can't hear I go Kevin Smets is a far superior energy team player than you are I said you are the most difficult person I've ever dealt with in my life and I started saying all these things and he's just like this it's pretty it's pretty great anyway so what helps you guys be hopeful I mean, honestly, like the stuff I put into my brain, like, whether it's comics, whether it's books, whether it's, like, my TikTok is the opposite of my output. I don't have a single comic book or movie commentator that I really pay attention to.
Starting point is 01:13:03 When I scroll, it's like people reuniting at airports and like puppies. Like, I just love like Hope Corps. Like I'm all about like joy. Because in my opinion, the world's really bad. So if I can curate what I can control. And also to what you said, like I got rid of most people that aren't. an uplifting force in my life. Like I'm realistic. I'm not going to cut someone off because they're negative,
Starting point is 01:13:22 but I'm not going to prioritize them. Right. Yeah, it's what you prioritize. Like where it's, it's the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence. The grass is greener where you water it. Water the good stuff. And Winston,
Starting point is 01:13:32 what about yourself? Yeah, I think the two things specifically. One, I, I've been telling everybody that I really resonate with the Hulk in Avengers where it's, my secret is I'm always angry. And when that's the case,
Starting point is 01:13:45 then nothing really pisses me off. So that, A, turns the level down for me a little bit. But B, it's taking moments of focusing on times when you are dealing with something rough, knowing that you will get to the other side of it. So part of our move specifically, I'll make this quick, is we were having horrible construction stuff happening outside of our place constantly that was making living in my apartment, living hell. And this move already just seeing my girls smile, waking up in the morning and not being stressed,
Starting point is 01:14:13 that's the type of things that it's like I push through the hard stuff. Oh, my Kalinowski moment. Because the good stuff is around the corner. You froze for a second or at the end, but it was a great speech. Oh. It caught up, though. We heard it caught up. Maramel Ponce.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Shout out to Koi for recommending the current Fantastic Four. It would have jumped on it sooner. If I knew North was the writer, love his Squirrel Girl series. Anyone that wants to read Comics Fantastic Four right now, not only is it a great setup for the movie that's coming up, and it's only three years in, so it's like 30 issues. It is the best, I think, in the 60 years of Fantastic Four. It is such a good run.
Starting point is 01:14:47 That's great. Mr. I crap and shits. It's my 46th birthday on Sunday. Happy birthday, man. Here's some of my birthday money. L.O.L. saw cap four last night. I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:14:57 It's mid-tier, but it's enjoyable. I'm with you. Not the cluster F. I thought it would be. Yeah, 100%. That's, I think that, and I promise you, I didn't write that. I was actually Mr. Craven says,
Starting point is 01:15:07 but that's exactly how I felt. It's exactly how I felt. It was just like, I enjoyed it. It was fun to watch, mid-tier. Yep. And wasn't as terrible as I thought it was going to be. Shane Canavan. Hey Christian and crew.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Long time listener, but really get to see live. So here's some support. Thank you, Shane. Wondering if full reactions are continuing on Patreon or was that a one-time thing for Infinity War? No, it's definitely going to happen. I'm actually, I'm going on vacation next week and I'm going to be on the plane,
Starting point is 01:15:33 kind of putting out some editing some of the ones and putting it up there. But I'm probably going to do the, I'll probably put the Captain Marvel one up next because we just finished that one. So that one will go up next and then the end game will come out. Yes, I'll start putting out more of the unedict. it once for sure um wins are you frozen or you're just staring into the camera okay you were actually that was good scary back in class baby no scary uh okay next one here is from joshua gonzalez i went to a comic store and i got love and rockets zubly zoo zubly zoo
Starting point is 01:16:04 hell yeah go blue blue zoo uh be town curious to hear coy's thoughts on hickm's hickman's x-man run uh in brief i love hickman i like or Kakoa saga. I thought it lasted a little too long because he wanted to do that as a three-act structure. And when they finished the first act, Marvel was like, no, no, we're going to stay in this act structure and we're going to keep it right here. So it felt like it was not the way he wanted to tell the story and the weight of that carried on. But overall, Hickman is very consistent. His F-F run is great. He's one of those writers that can do no wrong to me. I will always read his stuff and I like to his X-Men. This is hilarious, by the way, because I mentioned Matt Sarah and
Starting point is 01:16:42 carrying Ron today and Matt brought up. He goes, you know, I was on Rogan last week. Those guys were breaking my balls about the Superman trailer. And so Mike Joyce says, I feel so bad for Sarah on Rogan. Whenever made fun of him wanted to talk about the Superman trailer and be excited for the movie. He said, yeah, Callan was on board with him for a second. And then once the dog showed up, he wasn't, he's not on board with it. But apparently Rogan was breaking his balls about her. I didn't see that part of it, though, but hilarious. Douglas McKinney, big Koi cast anniversary coming up.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Q the Koi plug. You got a big anniversary coming. coming up. Five years of Koicast starting the well we we we had our first pre-production the last week of February our first episode dropped the first week of March so five years of my podcast that I never plug guys I got a podcast you can listen to it anywhere you listen to your podcast I always forget to plug it literally it's all over like Spotify our heart radio I'm doing it for five years and I forget I do it every week so check it out there you go uh Sean McCabe who I think is a recent finder of us and I think he's also from from Bayside in Queens because it's where we uh it's where we are any better bell boulevard shout out yesterday For my Queens peeps out there, Kristen's Cap 4 reaction of its fine translates to its men's amends. What does that mean? You've got to look it up once. Call me Java. New Hasbro, 6 feet 90 Spider-Man figure went up for pre-order 50 bucks. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:17:58 If you had an action figure, what accessory would come with it? Hmm. Mine? Let's see. A pepper spray. You usually get two, right? You get like one free chand. coffee and comics or coffee and spidey cat yeah my movie pepper spray new
Starting point is 01:18:19 your pepper and a slice of pizza not to be paired no um air pods and and and energy drinks that's such a joy joy mode joy mode joy mode yeah beagle studios Danny Ramirez's nightwing would be awesome see this is what I mean if you would have put that super chat in there, three or four days ago, I would be like, ah, interesting. Now I go, no, thanks. I go, no thanks. And I like, I don't know. He, I'll tell you, you know what's funny when I was watching him? I started to say, I think Andrew Guy would have done a better job. I think Andrew Guy is, I love, I, look, I like Danny Ramirez. I think Andrew Guy is more talented than Danny Ramirez. I do. I think the Andrew Guy has not gotten the opportunities that
Starting point is 01:19:09 Danny Ramirez says. I think Andrew Guy is an incredible actor, like an incredible actor. He's really, I think he was, sorry, Mike, I think he was the best actor out of everybody that was in, that was in the showdown. I think he was the best. He thinks because from watching what he did in general, and I was watching that going, damn it, Andrew Guy could have had this. So I don't know, Nightwing. Hey, for Nightwing. Andrew Guy for Nightwing. Yeah, Armada. I saw Cap 4 last night and Marvel just needs to slow the F down. think the Disney Plus shows really hurt the brand from both low quality and increased quantity. I don't disagree with that at all.
Starting point is 01:19:45 How do you guys feel about that? I think that's what they're doing this year. They're getting as much out as they can to have it out and have it done. And then, I mean, it's sad because how many times have we been like, well, this is the last one from the messy time. I hope that cap four is actually because of the reshoots and because of the stuff. I haven't heard as much about Thunderbolts. We've heard nothing about F4. So I'm hoping this is actually the end of our little asterix phase, ironically, with Thunderbolt's
Starting point is 01:20:09 asteris. Yeah. Oh, this is a great question. Casual scroll. This is great question. To solve the Magnino Xavier Age problem, couldn't the X-Men be in the Fantastic Four 60 universe? We could just bring them over with Fantastic Four. Did you say that? I said that either last week or the week before that, that when we were discussing Magneto and how you deal with how does he still associate with the Holocaust and things like that, I was like just make him from the same right. Right. Right. Which makes sense. Day Knapper. I'm getting a three-topping pizza tonight. Can each of you pick a random topping? I don't care about the combo. I'll try it. Stay awesome.
Starting point is 01:20:43 All right. That's great. All right. So everybody picks one. I'm going to go. I'm going to go first. Mushrooms. Bacon. Buffalo chicken. Whoa. That sounds delicious. Dana, for taking, you take a picture of that and you send you send a photo to us.
Starting point is 01:21:03 All right. Screenbytes nights. Big fan of you fellows in the UK. Thank you, Screenbytes nights. First time question. How many movies, it just really is the old time radio show. It really is when it's like the first time caller. Every time we get one of those questions, the first time question. How many movies to DC have to save the new
Starting point is 01:21:18 DCU if it doesn't hit Superman? Hoping it soars, but money talks. And following it up, of course, with I refuse, that is not Kendrix. It's not. It's a mad hatters. It's not his. He stole it. He stole it. It's not his. He's having bad. Somebody
Starting point is 01:21:38 got to do it got my foot up on the gasman somebody got to do it uh not his um yeah it's not his it's so stupid it's not his master thank you um anyway turn the tv so big fan uh he says that how many movies does that save the in general now i don't think um i don't know if they can come back from a superman bomb if it's if it breaks even if it breaks even or makes a little bit of money they can continue on. If it bombs, it's over. I think they need to prove. I think Superman will do well. I think it'll be the movies after Superman. Like, I think Superman is the proof of concept. I think they'll need two or three, just general properties. Because I think creature commandos was a small, well-received property.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Now they need a big, well-received property. And once they're on any sort of run of consistency, I think that's proof of concept. So I'm actually not thinking about Superman. I'm thinking about Supergirl and Lanterns. And Winston? I think you got it, it doesn't need to be as many as like what got us through the first Avengers, essentially the phase one. But it needs to be exactly what Coy said. Some level of consist. Give me like three to four where I'm like, yo, they're cooking over here.
Starting point is 01:22:53 And then I'm, I'm in. Yeah, they really need. They do need, they got to hit the big with this one. They really do. Corey, this one's for you. How is Duncan not capitalize on Affleck being called D.D. like Deer Devil, Dunkin' Donuts? Hello?
Starting point is 01:23:09 I literally speed read that as you were reading it. All I saw was Duncan D.D. Affleck and I knew exactly what he was asking. And the fact that there isn't fan art of this as my desktop wallpaper right now. Please, someone. That's, yes, you're right. By the way, I've not done that. You must have been so pumped yesterday because that account in two trailer was awesome. It is incredible.
Starting point is 01:23:29 It was already my number one most anticipated like non-superhero thing. It's number two of the year. I was right. Like it feels so good to have shot your shot on a weird pull. it's going to be the movie of the year. Like I'm so excited. It was really good. I'm going to let you for this one,
Starting point is 01:23:42 Coy, ready? Can I get a happy birthday from big balls? Is what he wants. Okay. It's time for a birthday with me and Coy. Put your hand out. I'm coming to you,
Starting point is 01:23:52 baby. Hold on. Wait a minute. I'll be there in a second. Hold on. Hold on. Okay, ready? Here I come.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Boop. Nope. Other side. Thank you. Other side. Thank you. Okay. Happy motherfucking birthday to you.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Happy motherfucking birthday to you. the fucking birthday to you. Happy birthday, Mr. Crapping, crapping, all over the mapping, crapping all over the place, crapping shits, you got some crap, you got some shits, then you got to eat something, then a drink of schlitz. I'm here all day, dancing with my balls in Kov's hand. Happy birthday, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Thank you. Perfect, big balls. Cool, you everything, this was going to be the show that you really broke out on, or what? You know, as my life is being written, I'm always baffled by the twist and turns of takes. What did you do on the show today? Well, I interviewed Sean Gunn. What about the other show? Well, a chipmunk was, his balls were in my hand while I was, the warmth of a digital chipmunk's balls today.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Yeah, while he was singing, happy birthday to Mr. Crap and Shits. Perfect. All right. Next one, and this is why people tune into this show. All right. Next one we have is from Go Pal. I love Go Pal. Congrats.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Winston in the new place and getting at least somewhat set up. He's trying to at least got the tech up, man. So you can be here with my messiness and see how it expands out as I grow. That's right. Next one here. And that one is coming in from Mirjam. A happy and lovely Valentine Christian. Thank you, Winston and Coy.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Hope it is a wonderful one. And that this day may be blessed for all of you and your families. Happy Valentine's Day, right? We didn't even mention that today. I got to do that today. I'm going to go. I'm leaving a little earlier today. I'm going to be home.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Go with the lady, get some food and stuff. and shut down the studio a little early today. So I'm sure everybody's doing the same thing. You guys are having dinner with the ladies. We are going to home goods. That will be our for our little, we'll probably get some ice cream and just buy some stuff for the house. Well that.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Yeah, which is a very adult. We have a tradition where we each do a five hours of the day. That way each of us picks out like a surprise. So she has the five hours from 12 to 5, I have from 5 to 10. Oh, okay, that's pretty cool. The old side got joy mode. Five to 10. I might have picked the side. First, I might have made my choices. Yeah, well, enjoy it now because you're getting married and you have kids. You ain't having no 5 to 10. I'll tell you.
Starting point is 01:26:20 C. I enjoyed Captain America. Red Hulk was sick. I did like the Red Hulk a lot. It was good to see Rage Hulk again. I did. The only thing that I would think it was missing is I really wanted to get more into, like, the whole heat element, like, powers that he has didn't really kick up quite as much but other than that yeah i liked it a lot too i walk uh snider says margaret quelly might play rogue yep we definitely we're all excited about that one go pal follows it up i asked step and mike yesterday is there a real world available object from tv or movies that you coveted for years for me it was brosden's bluebell seamaster they stock for 25 years i set a lightsaber you guys got one i want to borrow a soap from fight club oh okay probably the black panther suit oh that's
Starting point is 01:27:07 I love what's reasonable to It's a necklace It's inside it man Come on Dennis Shruck became a YouTube member Thank you Dennis Excited to all these new members that we have Chris Fields
Starting point is 01:27:18 I didn't love Captain 4 But I enjoyed it Yeah same Go pal Carl Lumbly was great in alias Oh was he in alias Also Winston Uh yes he was
Starting point is 01:27:29 That was actually one of his major roles that people in this era Really got used to him That in Martian Manhunter On Justice League That's awesome Okay, so next one is Joe for show. I could have swore I put it in there.
Starting point is 01:27:42 What's that from? What's that from? Is that one from? I'm not sure what that's from. I'm not sure what that's from. Go pal. And what's that? The Falcon and the Winter Soldier is all swear.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Whatever else I've seen him in. Yep. Great. He's really good. He was good, too. That was the thing that was another reason and why I agree with that last comment about all the shows and everything. You do rely him in order people really connect with that.
Starting point is 01:28:07 character, you have to watch that show. Because you don't get the gravity of it. Like you can still, you can still, oh, I guess this is an old winter soldier or an old super soldier. But yeah, you know, but you don't really get the, the gravity of it at all. So, yeah, I was just going to say, like, I mean, I know it's a movie. You only have so much time, but like seeing a situation, not just him like running from everybody, but weird flashback of a mission of his to see, oh, he was a badass.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Like that, you know, that would have been enough to try and help with that. Corn Emperor, was that Toad? Captain America for it was Toad in there? I think that's what he's saying about the leader. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's bad. It was bad. Justin Oramishi, support for Koi's dark sport hoodie.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Classes. That's pretty sweet. It is pretty. It's a good hoodie. Yeah, it's pretty great. That is great. I didn't even see that. Tyson's chicken nuggets.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Nuggies. Excuse me. Happy Friday, Jens. Have ever you seen the perfect getaway with Timothy, Olafan, and Steve Zon? Fun action thriller. That might be perfect for Sam. No, I haven't.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Look, Sam's going to be tied up for a bit. We got all the MCU stuff. And we're, you know, she's even, we're actually taking a break because we're doing the Spider-Man, Toby and Andrew next because I think that started, maybe started on this conversation. People were like, when are you going to do that one? Because you didn't want this post-credit scene to be spoiled for No-A home.
Starting point is 01:29:34 So we're going to show her those first and then that move. movie. But yeah, she's taking a break, and that's why I'm putting nose fraud to. Now, give her, after end game, giving her like a week to just chill out. So, yeah, I've never seen perfect getaway. You guys? No, I don't know. But I love Ali Fon ends on a lot. Me too. Yeah. Corn Emperor, my friend, niece, and I like Captain America for, watch it in theaters. I love that for you. I'm not saying that condescendingly. I genuinely, we've said this
Starting point is 01:30:01 multiple times about stuff. If people love something, they should love it. It's an opinion-based thing. It's art. So I hope that everyone loves the hell out of that film. I just had my problems. Totally. Okay. Next one here. Renetta W. Just throwing a super secret. Thank you, Renetta.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Aisha Kenya, happy Valentine's Day, was Gunn's decision to skip the Super Bowl, a misstep. It had the highest viewership of all time. That's crazy. I can't believe that that had the highest viewership of all time. What do you think about the market as far? I watched five minutes of the game. I was on the phone with AT&T for an hour and 15 minutes.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Oh, damn. Yeah, but and then by the time I got to, I didn't care. Because I was like, because there was just no way for both teams to lose. Yeah, I think that that's an interesting, it was an interesting choice to do that, but you kind of took your own moment back in December and then again, with the flight thing, I think maybe they just were like, we don't have another trailer to go right now. Yeah. I think that was it.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Is that they, but they do, but even if they did, you don't, you don't need to spend the money on it. You don't need to spend the money. It is expensive. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:13 It is expensive. If you already have no, people, people are aware of it already. You don't need to, you don't need to put it on Super Bowl. For what? Six months earlier is to raise awareness that it even exists.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Three months out is to start to give some story. And a month out is to remind you and give probably too many details and have a trailer that reveals too much. I'm hoping this one doesn't happen. Like, I'm hoping the one month out. So like, I think they're on a track.
Starting point is 01:31:32 I do think, the Super Bowl was a good opportunity for movies that are out like in May and earlier. But I personally don't think the Super Bowl is smart for deep summer films. But I get people being upset because I think this is an example of rumors getting out and being believed to the level that hurts the thing. I never heard a confirmation. I saw you're holding a magic mind. You guys should have some new ones coming. Did it just go up to your house now?
Starting point is 01:31:56 No, no. I just had this one because I needed it. Oh, you got a new one. The new one. You're the old one. Oh, great. And you got the sleep stuff coming too.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Yeah. Oh, I'm a review. Yeah, both of that's coming. So we'll talk about it next week. Okay. Derek 0-1-1. IDR 50,000. Thank you. Hey, Christian, did you ask Joe Mangonella about his role in One Piece 2?
Starting point is 01:32:20 He's going to be an important character for seasons to come. I did. He wouldn't tell me shit. But I did ask him about it. He told me what he could. He was, he was, he was promoting his, this is my third time talking to Joe and I like Joe a lot. He was promoting his dealer no deal island and I will tell you this.
Starting point is 01:32:40 When we talked about that show, he lit up and told me a lot of stuff. When I tried to go off course and talk about other things, he wasn't really talking that much about a lot of stuff. He was talking about like he told me about we were talking. We talked about Dune and Dune 2, which you really got excited about. We talked about that. But when I tried to, I was talking about D.C. stuff and everything too. And he, he wasn't, he wasn't really having it this time around.
Starting point is 01:32:59 He didn't really want it. It wasn't. He was being great. he's being great but he just you can just tell he didn't want to go down that route um but we try but i tried it's only about a 45 minute interview uh man sinister mccall favorite kandric song an album berry and damn for me coin winston have a blast uh good kid mad city and probably song uh huh um coy go ahead until i figure out the song because i got a few it's recency bias but either either gnx or lately i've been really feeling Mr. Moral just because I'm, you know, at a midlife point of looking at my life
Starting point is 01:33:35 in a very introspective way. And that movie has, that album has a lot to say about that. Song-wise, that might be Mad City, but also Man at the Garden and TV Off really hits. I don't know. Like, it's hard because I've got GNX. I finally got GNX on vinyl. Like, it can't be like it sounds so good. It's like a new album. So it's hard to not feel that recency. But Mad City is a song maybe my favorite. Maybe money trees, bro. Oh, me and my, I think you're trying to get it, you bitch, yeah, bitch. I think money trees is like an anthem for like me wanting to have kids, so I think I think about money is the most.
Starting point is 01:34:11 Money trees is an anthem for you having kids? It's all about planting a tree for the future you'll never see. It's all about like... Sure, boy. All right. Go pal. Qualey was great in... What is that? Oh, and... Oh, once a part of time in Hollywood. And the substance, yes.
Starting point is 01:34:27 I would never hold that acronym. Yeah, well, it's because I just mentioned it. Hunter Vance. Thank you, Hunter. I came in a member. We're getting a lot of new members here. Al Patrickson, not surprised over the expose over Brave New World's troubled production. I called this being the MCUs one bad egg and there are nine projects for nine for 2025.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Looks like I was right. Hopefully my prediction stands. I think you might be right. I don't know if it's going to call it a bad egg. I just think it's going to be the most disappointing out of all of them. I will tell you. And I said this. I don't know if I said this with you guys.
Starting point is 01:34:57 but I want to make sure that I'm consistent. I think not including Daredevil, out of the theatrical releases, I think Fantastic Four will make the most, which isn't a big surprise anybody, I think Thunderbolts will be the best movie out of the three of them. Yes. Yeah, I feel like I'm going to be the most impressed by Thunderbolts.
Starting point is 01:35:18 I think the Fantastic Four has the highest stakes. And I think Daredevil is going to be like a warm hug. I think Daredevil is going to be like, oh, we're back. And, you know, as the TikTok are sick. I feel like that's going to feel like the comeback. This is interesting. Jason Ashcroft said Snyder said last night that he's heard, the directors don't want to work for James Gunn and take notes from him
Starting point is 01:35:37 except hired guns like Jeff Wadlow. Thoughts? Also, he said that Swamp Thing is unlikely to happen. I mean, I'm just a matter of who he's hearing that from, you know, because like I said, I don't,
Starting point is 01:35:47 I don't scoff at Jeff Snyder's stuff. I know for a fact that the people that he's talking to are legit. So, you know, it could be the same thing that we're, talking about on this article in the vulture that we read about is it's it's i think Winston or so or koi might have said it could be an employee that's disgruntled or whatever might that is saying these types of things but i say we let the movie speak for themselves first
Starting point is 01:36:12 i agree and i also like the directors he's talking to so i don't know how much validity i have considering the names are people that i admire so i just don't know uh jakeykeveta what's up jake speaking of ed i invited him to stay with me in brooklyn he and eric frederick wouldn't shut the F up so me and Mariano went out to hang out where is Ed? Did I come back in after I throw him out? I haven't seen go pal she does the southern accent naturally when imitating her mom too and thank you Jake by the way and I've forgotten about the nice guys I like her there too
Starting point is 01:36:42 was she she's the nice girl the nice guys dude that's a young Margaret Quali dude she plays she is it clearly a quali I think to live I always say quality you might be you might be right but um She's the, wait, she's the girl, she's the nice, she's the daughter. Yeah. Oh, the one, the one that they're, wait, the, in the nice. The one that, like, runs over the car, the one they have to bring.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, yes. Right. Not the blonde daughter, not his kid. Okay, so that's where I was thrown off. And now that my memory plays it, yes, 100%. Yeah, the non-family child. Yep.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Jake, any chance the uned cut of end game will be on Tuesday as well. I loved watching Infinity War along with Sam. If I can get to it, the answer is yes. It's just a matter of the thing is, I don't have. have I you're looking at you're looking at the editor thumbnail designer everything like I only have so much time to do all of it so I was very proud of myself the day when I was able to sit down and throw the infinity war into the editing program and get that done so I'll try to get I'll try to get it done ASAP for sure PLD there he is I'm here for quality with Glenn Powell and ed harris in
Starting point is 01:37:49 huntington coming soon nice good old good old ed harris comment you're looking at that Robert Gonzalez, three out of ten. Mackey didn't have a villain, kind of, advertised Red Hulk. I didn't mind that, though. I'll tell you, I didn't mind, because everyone was, well, he's not in as much in the advertised with it.
Starting point is 01:38:10 I was my concern with it. I thought the way that it was led to how they got to the Red Hulk, I thought it worked well. I feel like they rushed the ending and wrapped things up a dialogue. See, I didn't feel that way with the ending. I felt that the ending was the one thing that actually worked. The third act worked for me. I personally on my side,
Starting point is 01:38:27 wish we didn't know the Red Hulk because the way the movie was written was like a powder keg. And so that did undermine it. Yes, I agree. Like, I definitely am aware that we're not in the 90s anymore. I totally get it. And I think maybe that's another thing
Starting point is 01:38:39 that hamstrung it for me. I was like, this whole time was okay, so when it was Hulk coming? Okay, so when is whole coming? I know that the Rose Garden part is coming. So when is the hole coming? And I think that that was another thing that maybe heard it for me.
Starting point is 01:38:50 All right. Next one here is from GoPel. Incidentally, how did the logistics work? when watching the uncut reaction, which is on TV versus computer phone and volume level for each. Oh, as far as when I'm watching them, how does that work? So with the, I think this is what you're asking, GoPel. So for me, you know, you want to make sure that you're not sending, that you don't have the audio, you guys can hear the audio through.
Starting point is 01:39:12 So basically what I do is I'm able to watch it on my monitor, put it on the big screen here, Sam and I'm watching it, but I'm able to mute it. So the audio is not picking it up from the camera, but Sam and I, can still hear it. That's how we're able to. That's that that's what you're asking. Al Patrickson, I hope Thunderbolts won't pay for the sins of Brave New World underperforming. If I were Disney, I would do free screening of Thunderbolts a week before released to save its box office like they did for Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and Shung Chi. What do you guys think about that? I think they're going to have a, I think the reason the quiet right now is happening is because
Starting point is 01:39:49 they're going to gear up for a mega post-Daredevil surge for Thunderbolts because of this. I think it's going to be a great word of mouth movie. I think Thunderbolts is going to have legs. I mean, we've all talked about like, wow, those trailers. Wow, this made the big surprise. So I do worry about that generally, but I think Thunderbolt's going to be too good to have that happen to this one. I think that Thunderbolt will be fine.
Starting point is 01:40:08 You'll get some screenings, I think, but I don't think you're going to have anything super crazy. I think they're going to let that part of its own. Agreed. It's a summer movie also. Renetta W., Happy Love, Happy Love, Valentine's Day of the Guys. The Thunderbolt's trailer was fire looking forward to that movie. We can't wait.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Coy! Great suggestion for casting for Bishop. It like hit me. It was so, like once I saw his face in your article, I was like, that's Bishop. I will say that,
Starting point is 01:40:33 you know, you know that I, I haven't, we even talked about it because I also haven't watched it. I didn't watch the Thunderbolt, the new Thunder Bulls trailer. Oh, it's pretty great.
Starting point is 01:40:40 I heard, but I was called in Captain America's because you guys went to screening, so you didn't see ads. Yeah, they played trailers at my screening. Did they? They played F4 and Thunderbolts.
Starting point is 01:40:49 I finally got to see F4 big, and when that aspect ratio opens up a few. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, so that's why that's, I didn't watch Thunderbolts on purpose because I've seen it enough. I didn't do a reaction to it and I figured it was going to be like, because look, one of my anticipated movies of the year is sinners and that entire trailer was ruined. And the movie was a second trailer. Dude, it gives away the whole, oh, it gives away the whole movie.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Don't watch it. Don't watch it. It's terrible. Al Patrickson, what do you guys predictions for Thunderbolts Global Box Office post-Cap 4? I'm thinking $450 million worldwide on $150, no, Thunderbolts will do better. Thunderbolts you're looking at, I bet you it does between $6.6.50. I was going to say $6.00, 7 on the high end. I was going to be the crazy one and say $750 because I think that it's going to be that good of a movie that it will stand on its own legs.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Yeah. I mean, you're not putting in a movie in May if you only think it's going to do $450 million worldwide. Hunter Vance. Once Sam has caught up, it might be best to have her react to some of the big TV series that may have missed. Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones, for example, your audience has become invested in being. Oh, no. Character is long term. You know, the funny thing is, game of Thrones is certainly a possibility. Game of Thrones is, but the thing is that probably won't happen until like 2026.
Starting point is 01:42:10 Because I have so many movies and things that we're got to remember, we're going to watch all the rest of the MCU. We're going to watch, we are going to watch, um, uh, Loki, season. one and two we're going to watch one division we're going to watch falcon and the winter soldier um those will be the only series that i think we watch a marvel i believe i don't think there's anything else that's really it's just you just say breaking bad and game of thrones that's a lot of time well right so that's what that's what that's that's what i'm saying so we're going to finish up all the mc u and all the movies we still have left of all the phases that we're probably be catching up the captain america four that she's going to have to watch and get up to thunderbolts and all that
Starting point is 01:42:47 But then we're going to watch all the X-Men movies. We're going to watch all the Spider-Man movies. So she's going to be pretty much occupied for the rest of this year. So she is. I mean, she is. We have so many. We have so many. She comes in like, you know, three, two or three times a week.
Starting point is 01:43:01 If you look at all the movie, I mean, we already, we still have like 20-some odd, 20 to 30 things left to watch in the MCU, plus all the X-Men movies. She's, there's tons of things she hasn't seen. Like, she's never seen Inception. We're going to watch Inception, which is going to be great. Yeah. You're both until the Batman 2 comes out, bro. I know that she never saw the Batman once I'll probably do that right beforehand she's never seen the accountant so we're going to watch that one too yeah so yeah so when you watch that you text me yeah so game a game that's the pro of this year yeah well no it better not be uh just john ashford do you think Robert Denny Jr's doom killing Kang will reunite the Robert Danny Jr. gets second chances but majors can't debate from the comic layman and join the show I never really liked that argument in the first place Robert Danny Jr didn't
Starting point is 01:43:47 Robert Don Jr. was self-harm to himself. You know, but it's a straw man argument for, because the main thing you aren't taking into consideration considering Kang as a time traveler's time. You, like people keep forgetting all the stuff that Robert Duned Jr. got in trouble for early 2000s and did not get another chance for years.
Starting point is 01:44:05 Right, right. Exactly. Right. That's exactly right. It wasn't like, oh, even, even what, whatever it was to, you know, again, it was to himself and things he was doing, but he was also couldn't get insured and all this stuff. They didn't want him at Iron Man.
Starting point is 01:44:16 I was like, yeah, have him come back. Favre had to fight for him. Favreau literally had to fight tooth and nail to get him in there. And so, like, I think that's the thing people have to take to consideration is time. It has literally been, what, 18 months at most with John the majors at this point. He'll be back. He'll be back. Yeah, Aaron, a creator.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Because he plays Kang, I thought you were talking about time travel when you said time. And I was like, that seems like a weird thing. Koi is, it's safe to say that Spitey show is better than Tom Holland's trilogy. If it wasn't for No Way Home, I would say a definitive yes. I think the show is as good as No Way Home. Really? It's really good. It's so good, Chris.
Starting point is 01:44:57 I am mad that the way that they did not advertise this and they kind of just kind of I've had absolutely no interest in watching the show. If it helps, we literally, I would put it up there with like, no home is a five-star film. I think this is a 4.7 five-star show. It's exceptional. It's that good. It's really. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:14 It's like first season. like invincible good. Wow, which considering that goes along away, considering I haven't seen season one of the movie. Okay. It's up there with XM97. Okay, well, that's good. Wow. All right. Jay Mobile, I'm glad we're finally
Starting point is 01:45:30 wrapping up the Chepec era films, but I'm a little worried that Feige and upcoming Russo Avengers are going to spend too much time trying to tie up the Cheapac era loose ends. I mean, that is a great point, though, that you don't understand from a lot of people. I mean, this guy clearly gets it. But like, this movie still is part of that Cheapac era, the Captain American movie.
Starting point is 01:45:46 And now it seems like Daredevil is starting it. Didn't they say it wrapped in 2023 right before the strike and then they had to go back? Yeah, yeah. So exactly. Al Paterson, I bet Fantastic Four will do a billion worldwide and Thunderbolt to do 450. Thunderbolt is, there's no way. That one I'll put a bet on. There's no 450.
Starting point is 01:46:04 It'll do better than 450. Fantastic Four, I don't think it's going to hit a billion. I think it'll get close, but I don't think it's going to hit a billion. Let's see. Next one. And this is Corn Emperor, watching The Conjuring 2 for the nun seen alone. I got to you know I know she's she's seen the conjuring one but I don't think she's seen the second one Nick Vaughn do you guys feel like Fige's enthusiasm just isn't there for
Starting point is 01:46:27 Marvel's projects like it used to be I just think that he is very excited about the fantastic foreign the X-Men he has been quoted he wants to get there wants to play in that sandbox and he's like yeah I had fun with this one I want to play with these toys I think that's exactly right I think he just wants to get to the X-Men I also think he loves this universe so he's taking it personally when the check X-off is up because it would feel like it's you and it's not so I personally think he's gonna come back in a big way yeah me too pharaoh vibes it's great name hey crew what was everyone's score for the new cat movie just saw it couldn't have been more
Starting point is 01:46:59 disappointed bored and uninspired it's a streaming movie at best I get that keep up the good work on the show I went 2.9 out of five I couldn't get it to fresh but I didn't dislike it but I don't necessarily disagree with what you put in there Farrow but what would out of five Winston what would you give this whatever it averages out to what kind of the critics are saying around that 50 to 55 percent mark. So five out of ten. So five out of ten? Yeah. Yeah. I go three to five. I got just a hair over Christians, but like I get everyone's qualms. But I also didn't mention this earlier. My first bit of professional press was at this tiny network called bite size. And the first thing I did on my own as a
Starting point is 01:47:39 producer, writer, and host was the announcement of Anthony Mackey as Falcon in Winter Soldier. So I broke down the falcon suit and how it might translate to Winter Soldier 10 years ago. So there was like a bit of a personal relationship for me to see him become cap on screen because that was the same year that Sam Wilson became cap in the comics. So that era is like when I started hosting to scale. So this one kind of meant a lot to me. So I can't tell if that changed my score. Yeah, I think it's overall, I mean, we all seem to be in the same neighborhood with that
Starting point is 01:48:08 score. Corn Emperor Engade was the end of the MCU, not literally, but I mean, it's, it's, I don't know it was the end of the MCU as much as it was. It was the end of like that vibe. It's like you know, it's like you have to look at the MCU like a series of television. And they had a lot of great seasons. And the last few seasons have just not been as good as the first three seasons.
Starting point is 01:48:31 So maybe season six will be better than the previous two seasons. I also think that was before the world. And like the strikes and the pandemic were all before endgame. And I don't think people give enough credit to how much that changed all of movie making. I do think Marvel is less consistent, but I don't think that we should discount the variables that have tapped the cinematic universe. Right. Jack Lewis.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Are you guys worried about the MCU entering Doomsday? Things are all over the place compared to when we went into Infinity War. Back to what we were saying. We got to get through kind of the Chepec stuff. And I honestly think that the setup from this movie, then going into Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four, we're well on our way to what we need to do. I think we just needed to kind of deal with what we had left.
Starting point is 01:49:14 before we could get there. So I'm feeling fine. Renetta. So also, I keep watching the halftime show over and over. And Kendra Moore is a genius. He stayed with who he is and I'm loving it, giving the dancers a shout out. They were on point, loving everything. That's the only thing I did watch, by the way, was the Super Bowl, was the halftime show. Oh, good, man. I watch.
Starting point is 01:49:36 I do love Roxy's story about the real rejects going over. Were you over there, too, great? Oh, I was super bowling. Okay. So she said, I went over and, and they invited me able to be over there. And she's like, and I get there. And she's like, well, where's the game?
Starting point is 01:49:52 He's like, what do you mean? And, and he's like, he's like, we just watch like the commercials and the trailers and stuff. And he's like, she's like, what are you talking about? Where's the turn to keep? I was over there three or four years ago for whenever multiverse had their trailer and like the game wasn't on. And I was shocked.
Starting point is 01:50:09 They like were refreshing the trailer. It's hilarious. Yeah. Joe for show. Cap four. their phones to go off grade but not their smart watches don't know why this bug me it's a great point that's a fantastic great point you know what i was thinking when they ditched the phones i was like bro you're in an electric car you know that they drank the hell out of that shit like if you
Starting point is 01:50:29 would gotten a hoopty i'd have been like okay back right but i'm telling you there was there was some really bad directing try we haven't really talked about this the director is a good director i remember the last film he did oh shoot the cloverfield paradox no what was it. Anyway, the directing was bad in this movie. And there's a lot of things that happened that were just not good. And like, I'm telling you, as much as I've been goofing on it, you got to pay attention to little details because it matters, right? Like, you watch that scene with Danny Ramirez when he knocks the guys with the bike. Why does that guy just ride right off the road? He just rides off the road. He doesn't come back. And it's like, it's, it's so stupid little things like that. It's, it drives me nuts. Adit Mahmood from Variety. Goonies too as a writer. It's Winston. sent me this before also is that I was pretty convinced that there was going to be some kind of an announcement once
Starting point is 01:51:22 all of them were taking pictures at the premiere of Funn's last movie. I love love hurts. Yeah, you were all there together. The after party was dope because I got to see all the Goonies in one room and that was like, I got, talking to Goonies while they were with other
Starting point is 01:51:36 Goonies was one of those child moments. But they were all there together and I was like, wait a minute. Yeah, like, but still, they were there to support their friend, but they're taking pictures together and you know speculations come and then it doesn't surprise me that there's a right on it's going to be a Super Bowl announcement to be honest because they were all there yeah uh they've been trying to get it done for forever robert conzalus fantastic four trailer never showed mr fantastic's powers so they will in the next one i have a theory behind that and i think that because his powers
Starting point is 01:52:01 in a lot of ways sometimes even more so um for people that don't understand like the stretching and distortion uh special effect it's kind of partly why they change miss marvel's power supposedly it takes a little bit more. So I think that they were like, we're already, people are already bitching about the thing and how that is still trying to be worked and all that. I think that they were like, let's just leave that alone for now.
Starting point is 01:52:24 I agree. Let's see. Larry Quarteritz, I'm going to Cap Fortinite and I'm pretty psyched. Also, shout out to Queens. I went to Bayside High School. Nice. I went to Holy Cross, so it's not too far away from there.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Let's see. This is the next one is from Al. Patrickson. You guys see Fantastic 4 IMAX countdown with Captain Captain McGrath in New World? I didn't. Did you guys see that? Mine had it at the IMAX screening which I've never seen them do. But yeah, all the countdown when it got to four
Starting point is 01:52:53 it was the Fantastic Four. Like they MCUIs the IMAX countdown. That's cool. It was the smart marketing. Like it's a great idea. JP Brunette. My favorite show on the internet. Thank you, JP. Leading up to Fantastic Four and Superman, when you guys do rewatches of past movies,
Starting point is 01:53:09 those were awesome leading up to Spine around no home. No, you got to remember this. The reason why we did that back then, because there was no capes and cows. The reason why we had that in general is I wanted to do a show with these two guys. And we wanted to figure out a way to do something. So we did that. And then what we realized is that, unless it was a movie that people cared about, because we did Toy Story and we had fun doing it, but nobody watched it. So we were like, well, what are we doing here? Should we keep doing this? And like, well, let's just do. Because at one point when we were doing the Schmodown thing, we had talked about doing a capes and cows type show and those things, and we're like, let's just do it
Starting point is 01:53:40 together. So we've been doing, I mean, this show, we've been doing the show now three years or something like that close to it. So leading up to it, probably not, but I probably will do a man of steel reaction with Sam because she's never seen that. And maybe even the Fantastic Four movies. I don't don't know if I want to do that to her though. Keep her happy. I know. I know. Right. Because she's going to, yeah, we'll, we'll see. We'll see. Um, all right. Next one here. and that's Brooklyn. Literally just got out of the theater for Cap 4. I had a good time with it.
Starting point is 01:54:14 I know Marvel doesn't do Directors Cup, but do you think it's possible for Cap 4? No, because I don't necessarily know if this was a director's cut as much as the original version of it. This is more like a Frankenstein thing than anything else. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:26 Aaron, a creative. Do you think an Avenger dies in Doomsday? And who do you think? My pick is Ant-Man. Well, we know what's his face is going to. Deadpool's going to be in trouble and Thor is going to be holding him. We know that's going to happen. Yeah, I think Ant-Man's likely.
Starting point is 01:54:40 I think Thor gets a Thor 5, so not Thor. I think people will die because I think people's contracts are up. Yeah. But will it mean anything, though, anymore? Because everybody comes back anyway. I mean, like, again, we're doing, we're doing, the door is always potentially open, but I think we're doing this soft reboot. So people got to go.
Starting point is 01:55:01 Yeah. Madhouse Entertainment. What's up? Jokes. Just wondering what you guys think about is this spawn movie ever happening. I mean, if you look, do you talk to Tommy Farley? it's happening tomorrow. But no, I remember asking when he was on the show.
Starting point is 01:55:14 He said, yeah, it's happening soon. That was like six years ago. I mean, George R. Martin never going to finish his books. Right. Same thing. So I don't know. Dave Mack, love this show. Coy, in comics, is Superman's suit indestructible?
Starting point is 01:55:26 Batman v. Super suit survives explosions. Guns gets burnt and charred. Is there a new suit by the end of the film? Depends on who's writing. I do think that the gun suit will evolve and change. And that's not for many, I don't know. But I do think that is, seeing it messed up is definitely
Starting point is 01:55:41 a different feel. So whether or not that turns into a different suit, I don't know, but I do think that the indestructibility is kind of relative to the thing he's fighting because the costume is strong, but like Doomsday shattered it, right? Dudes fight naked or almost naked. So I think it'll depend on which story they're telling it and how they're going to navigate it.
Starting point is 01:55:57 Maramouth Hounce. Winston, Coy, thoughts on King's Wonder Woman. One of the best Wonder Woman's I've read since George Perez's. I personally think it's an incredible way to make a very politically charged comic feel real and like our world, but heightened like hers. It blends the world of Themiscaria and Washington brilliantly.
Starting point is 01:56:16 I love it. I haven't read it, man. For a second, I was like, which story was that? But yeah, no. Dude, and only 19 issues in. It's so good. So good. Jay Mobile.
Starting point is 01:56:26 Glad to be watching live again, by the way. Thank you, Jay Mobile. Best show on YouTube. Thank you. Saw a cap last night. It was just okay. Not the worst. I'm shocked how much the trailers gave away.
Starting point is 01:56:35 Most spoiler, most spoiler Marvel trailers I can remember. It's up there. This is a major Voltron for me. They were really trying to get people in the theater. I think that again might be another thing contributing to it. I knew too much. Yeah. Yeah, they're really trying to get you in the theater with whatever they can.
Starting point is 01:56:53 And it might have been in a backfire. SJC 360. Coy, where'd you get your Superman hoodie? DC Studios. Oh, there you go. I do think they will be telling them, but I, I, uh, DC Studios. I'm a big shot. I think I saw your co-host at the screening I was at.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Oh, yeah? Yeah. Oh, that makes sense. Frankie's out there. Yeah. Okay. Maramouth Hounce. Goku, vegeta, or palaco?
Starting point is 01:57:21 That's all good. Goku, Vigino or Piccolo. It would misspell Piccolo, but that's totally fine. Gohan. Yeah. Sure. All right. Joe, for show.
Starting point is 01:57:33 Any reason Cap for opening only, said brave new world what else will do it said uh oh he's talking about the no marvel fanfare i was curious about that too oh oh okay yeah i don't know i'm not sure sean macape christian i'm from ozone park oh i say the wife's from whitestone got it close enough you're the best you're the best sean did you son did you just find us recently because i i feel you've been pretty active on the channel lately and i don't i'm not sure if um i haven't seen you before but i'm glad that uh i'm glad that you found your way here for deal strongly hate this movie from mackie overscored it was it was overscored, no doubt.
Starting point is 01:58:07 Hully contrived, terribly villained, third act, spoiled, easily one of the worst MCU movies in my opinion. Hey, fair enough. I mean, you gave your opinions of why you felt that way, you know? I'll put it to you this way.
Starting point is 01:58:20 If you were breaking up the MCU into thirds, I would argue it's in, it is the king of the lower thirds for me. I feel the same. I think of it as thirds, and this is the top of the bottom. Yeah. Beagle Studios.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Coy, didn't Sam's not sell well in comics when he was first introduced, which why Marvel brought back Steve as Cap and Sam Falcon until now? Yeah, I was actually just talking with that with my 2014 thing. I think a big problem was it was coming out alongside Winter Soldier where Captain America as Steve Rogers was peaking. And then they were like, let's make the comic Sam Wilson. I'm like, that's just optically, that's really hard to sell comics when the other guy
Starting point is 01:58:54 is doing his best movie today. I think it would do better, maybe not now, but maybe a year ago. But I think it could do well again now because of the movie. in the future, but I think the Rick Reminder run is slept on in the Acunia art on the next run is even better. So I think there's a place for it. I just don't know how to sell it with the optics. Yeah, I think Anthony Mackie's run as Captain America will take him into the Avengers, but he's not getting another movie.
Starting point is 01:59:20 I don't think it's going to happen. Horn Emperor, the Fantastic Four trailer actually looked really good in 3D. I didn't see them 3D. Did you guys see it in 3D? No, it'd be fun. Aaron, the Creative. Over under 60%. Miles Morales appears in Secret Wars.
Starting point is 01:59:36 There's a rumor though that Sony wants to put Miles at the center of their reboot for Spider-Man for live action. So I don't know. They should. I'm going to go under for that reason and because I think he's going to be after all that, not in that. Yeah. Go pal. I was actually asking how I or other viewers would do the uncut. Oh, I started one of real rejects and switched to the highlights after a couple of minutes. Yeah, that basically the way you got to do is you just got to line it up. You got to put your, that's why I put the time code on. So some of the reactions,
Starting point is 02:00:05 the uncut ones. So when you go to the uncut, you just line it up and I'll tell, I tell you in the reaction, start it now at zero, zero, zero, and then you watch along from the time code because someone, someone's joined up and didn't know who it worked. Someone signed up on Patreon or membership and said, well, I try to watch the whole movie
Starting point is 02:00:21 with you guys, but it's just you guys with a time code. I'm like, well, I put the whole movie on there. We get a copyright and you'd be able to watch it. Guys, I got a boogie. I can do like two more, and then I got a All right. Okay. Yep. Ray finds as Magneto. Boom. We're almost done too quick. This is, I think we're, I think we're coming to the end here. DJ Case, watch the gorgeous morning on Apple TV. Pretty fun little film. Corey said the same. Literally, like I liked it more than Cap 4. That was my biggest surprise
Starting point is 02:00:44 of the year so far. I did a whole review out of sheer passion. I didn't have a reason. And you love it. I'm going to see it. Jay Mobile. This might be a dumb question. How do I join to be able to watch the full Sam reactions? Watch the Infinity War reaction with my wife. And it took her back to when she was too sobbing like a baby. Jay Mobile, you just go right near it. You should see it on your YouTube. thing. It just says become a member. Join, become a member, you get the reactions once they're the raw ones and you'll be able to get the Infinity
Starting point is 02:01:06 Who 4 or one raw. Armato, whatever happened to that Spielberg DC movie? Oh yeah, was that a thing? Yeah, Black cock. Someone... Black cock. A war, black cock. Happy Valentine's Day!
Starting point is 02:01:21 A very different movie. Go about Siamondarin. That's weird. Look at our Reddy is. Look at our Reddy is. get out of here. Close with that one. Close and I'll do that. Go find some black cock.
Starting point is 02:01:37 All right. So go, pal. That's weird. Coy, yeah, it was. My way into this whole world was chaotic, awesome on bite-sized TV in 2014. We might be cooked, bro. We might be cook, bro. We might be good.
Starting point is 02:01:52 We try to finish it up, but I mean, that was pretty great. Bean, Diff, Supreme. Only emotion I in Brave New World was Isaiah Prison Busy. Yes, agreed. Agreed. That was pretty solid. We're almost done here. Joe for show.
Starting point is 02:02:05 Cap 4 didn't say Captain America, Brave New World in the movie's title, was wondering if there was a reason on Marvel's end for that. Because it probably had a different title at the time. I don't know why they didn't add it in, though. So I'm not sure. I don't know. Al Patterson,
Starting point is 02:02:16 you guys hear that Disney's Pixar's Ilios moved back one week. No, but that makes sense. What was it? What was it? What was it was going up against? Where was it? I saw it in a spot on that I remember thinking, well, that's interesting.
Starting point is 02:02:26 It's there. Wherever it was, they probably have a better chance to do that. Um, Steph, de Gostini. Good day, gentlemen. Where do you think, oh, he's been asking every day. So I got to make sure I have it. Where do you think Red Hulk will appear next? Um, I don't know if you will.
Starting point is 02:02:45 We'll see, but I don't want to spoil anything though, but do you, I mean, if he does, maybe in the Avengers. Based off of this movie, I would definitely say Doomsday. Because they think about the main thing that he was going on and on. Right, right, right. Maybe. Maybe so. And they told me that Harrison Ford, I guess, is locked in to do a couple of these movies. Actually, maybe Thunderbolts. Maybe.
Starting point is 02:03:07 Maybe. I don't think they're going to go right back to back. Maramouth Hunts. Favorite Pokemon, Winston? Probably squirtle. Someone said, I guess the I guess the Lio has moved to get away from how to train your dragon, live action. Oh, I see. That's probably smart.
Starting point is 02:03:25 Last one. Aaron the creative. I heard a rumor that Marvel is hiding the fact that Sue is pregnant. in the Fantastic Four trailer. Do you think Franklin Richard plays a big part of Secret Wars? Yeah? Absolutely. For a number of reasons, the quick summation of all of that, I mean, A, they were on
Starting point is 02:03:39 the Today Show. You don't have a rogue question of someone thinks you might be pregnant. That was clearly set up for them to do that. But also, B, if you read Secret Wars, Franklin's powers, because he can reality warp. That's the child of reading soon. Okay. So he gets them to the new reality. I get it.
Starting point is 02:03:57 All right. Winston, that's it. you had a good day today not even close not even close one 105 is what you're in with that's a great day normally yeah but you would you would need to get another
Starting point is 02:04:10 about another 140 we may not win again until thunderbolts good god I don't know but there's actually one more that came in let me let me get to that um hold on there's a new one and it says this is from Keny King we need Morris attack versus Robocop please that'd be amazing actually
Starting point is 02:04:26 one more Bobby Bobby Anse, how dare you are? Thor, Love and Thunder is leagues better than Raven. Not to me, it isn't. It feels like, I'd actually like to see a movie with a story instead of dumb jokes that Saturday Night Live would do. It's a Saturday Night Live dumb movie. It feels like a place of a movie and not a Scrumble.
Starting point is 02:04:47 I couldn't disagree with you more about it. The funny thing is the throughline story type situation feels a little bit better there, but as an overall movie? Oh, it's a mess. It's definitely better. It's a moot. It's actually, it takes itself seriously. That's, it's like Thor went from the whole, especially now after rewatching these movies.
Starting point is 02:05:07 Thor went from serious, serious, serious, Shakespearean thing to kind of goofy in love and thunder, but there's a reason for any crack shows, but he's so distraught by the time, because by the time he gets to end game, he's so distraught and he's drinking and everything to, but he comes back from all of that to become, you know, who he was again. and then he's a complete goofy moron in the next one. And as nobody takes it seriously, it's a horrible movie. It might be the worst out of all. Jason Ashcroft.
Starting point is 02:05:36 Snyder said he heard Marvel is worried about Thunderbolt's bombing, the box office said he heard it's good, but they're afraid. Yeah, I think they probably are afraid, especially after this movie, you know, and it's like the question is, is there going to be any hype beforehand? So I'm hoping it's good also.
Starting point is 02:05:50 And now Joe for show just wants to get us, well, it wants to get me upset. Go Cowboys. I wish, but I don't believe in Shondheimer. So I don't know. We'll see. Well, that's it now. Still, 109, not even close.
Starting point is 02:06:05 But we got close. We got close enough to something. Well, Winston, thank you for joining us, as always. Coy dipped out a little early today, but we got through a lot of it with him. So you make sure you check out Winston's channel. Make sure you check out Coy's channel. We'll be back here next week. Two more.
Starting point is 02:06:25 Kenya King, the soundtrack in Cap 4 was so distracting. So distracting. It was terrible. The soundtrack stuff didn't bother me. The scoring did. The score. I think that's what he had. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like, like, even in the end, the very end when they roll credits for them to play Kendrix, I love myself and all that I thought was great.
Starting point is 02:06:42 But I think I wanted to explore more. Like, there was a whole run with Sam Wilson. I know we got to get out of here. Yeah. The whole idea, hashtag, not my cap. If we had even had more moments of that and then him again, I think that would have been. Agreed.
Starting point is 02:06:57 All right. Well, thank you guys. Enjoy your Valentine's Day and have a great weekend overall. Roka will be hosting the show on Monday and Tuesday. Wednesday, my Joe Mangonello interview goes up and then Thursday I'll be back. So enjoy. Be nice to Roxy and Roka on Monday. See if they can both shatter the record together.
Starting point is 02:07:15 See what that can happen there. So we'll see. So we'll see. Thank you guys so much. Thanks for Winston. Thanks to Koi. We'll see you later. Bye.

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