The Kristian Harloff Show - CHAOS AT LUCASFILM? THR releases the messy plans within Star Wars.

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

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Great news, guys. They figured it all out at Lucasfilm. There's a good plan that's happening. We were wrong. They figured it out. They know that they have tons of books and comics to pull from, that they can create new characters and adapt stuff. They figured it all out. Or I'm just practicing for April Fool's Day. There was a big article that came out on Hollywood Reporter. that pretty much said they're in the shits, the serious shits. So we're going to discuss this article in full. It might take up a lot of the show, honestly, because it's just been stuff that we've been discussing and kind of things that we've been talking about

in order to write the ship and where the future of the franchise is headed or they think it should be headed. I don't know. So we'll discuss that. It's going to be myself, Mike, and Steph back together again. Here it is. It's the show. Let's do it.

Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen. It is Thursday. And it's the Thursday show. And joining me on the Thursday show, it's been regular thing. Miss Steph Sabrault. Hello, Steph. I got a movie for you to react to. I got to talk to your crew over there to get you on it.

I'm assuming you've never seen closer. oh man it's uh it is it's it's it's it's it's it's it's a movie i would love to see you react to for sure um because it's the the i think it is an underrated performance by clive owen i think it is i think clive owen should have been nominated for it i think it was that good you you cheer for him and how despicable um there's certain characters that are very despicable and you cheer for people in it but anyway uh speaking of miserable look at this guy has your light i don't mean i don't mean your light i don't know i was talking about i was talking about your essence right i oh they can't hear you they can't hear stuff uh wait wait wait

hold on hold on i got it all right give it give it a give it a test you should say Yeah, it should be good now. It should be good now. Can you guys, can you hear him now? I know. Everyone's saying I can't hear me. Everybody should be able to hear me. Can you hear me now?

They should be able to in a second. Okay, cool. Hopefully in a moment here, they should be up. Okay, you're good now. Okay, so anyway, I told Steph she should watch it. She said, okay. And then I talked to Mike. Mike didn't even say anything except he disagreed that he's sad right now.

I love closer. It's a good movie, isn't it? It's a great movie. Dude, I saw that movie a week after a break. up. Yeah. No, but I, but it was the most therapeutic thing ever. I was there's a there's a scene that happens between Clive Owen and Julia Roberts and I audibly like cheer like I was at a sporting event. It was it was it's really, really good. Um, anyway, so we have a lot to discuss here today. This is, um, as I told, I told you guys, I told, well, I told Seth and Mike before

I'm telling the audience now. Um, I am waiting. for lunch to be delivered. It was supposed to be delivered about 20 minutes ago and it's late. So I know as right as I start getting into this story, the lunch is going to is going to arrive. So I'll do what I can do in the interim. But it's going to be a long conversation here, guys, because this is, you guys both saw the article when it came out? Yeah. Yes. And are we all in agreement that it is everything that we've been worried about and talking about in general for the last two years?

Of course. Yeah. Did you find any hope in this thing at all, Steph? Hope, no, but not complete despair. Okay. All right. Yeah. So.

All right. It's super confusing. I mean, just, it's confusing. It's confusing. But that's what that's their MO now. Yeah. Is it it's it's super confusing.

But. Um, and before we get into it also to let you guys know, Steph, I didn't have a chance to tell you, you and Roka won last week. Oh, nice. So I don't think, do you know how many questions they hit last week, Mike? Um, am I frozen now? Yeah, you're all right.

You're doing great for yourself. Uh, I'm going to say 128. 202. Holy crap. They annihilated. Can we beat it today? With those dogs. I mean, this is my, I almost, now, I love, I love, I love talking.

I love talking to Mike. I really do, but sometimes when he tells me he can't be on the show, I'm not upset. When he tries to be what? When he tells me he's not on the show, I don't get upset anymore. Oh my God. I do. Well, not anymore. I like talking to him, but it's frozen camera dogs, lawnmower, bad camera.

Look at him. He's like the best. He's just got to bottle up that energy. I know him so well. I love it. He's so man right now. Look at him. He's frozen. He's, his froze. The camera froze on his anger. Hold on. My, my, my door dash is here. Okay. All right. Hey, you downstairs.

Okay, let's guess what Christian's going to eat. My guess is it's a sandwich. Do you think so? I eat pizza probably. You think pizza? Okay, so it's 1 p.m. You don't think 1 p.m.'s a little early for pizza? No, hell no. 1 p.m. There are there no rules on the time? So you think he's got like some kind of big meat like he's probably got a meatball sand. I think he has a part like a meatball sub or just like straight like Italian sub. But it's a deli sandwich is my get.

I'll get you. I'll go with your bag. I got your back on that one. Yeah. Yeah. But Mike, I can't believe we haven't been on the show together for a few weeks. And a hot minute hasn't a kid? Yeah.

Our schedules haven't been lining up. You guys have to make me and might be everyone today in the question. Who are made? Oh, that's insane. We can do it. Well, the good questions, though, was just like just trying to get the numbers up there. They were. They were.

It was a good topic, though. We were talking about. It was the announcement of the Star Wars trilogy. That's what it was. Yeah. So the, the, uh, Simon Kinberg thing. Oh my God. Which we'll discuss also.

Um, Steph, you're wrong. I didn't get a sandwich. You're going to be excited. You're going to be happy. You'll be happy with what I got stuff. Okay. Let's have I show you. Drumroll.

Oh, I would have been. I hear that nonsense in freaking New Yorkie. Did you find a sushi place in New York? I got a good place. Hey Mike, there's a new song on the radio. It's called, Suck My Boles. All right, here he goes.

So let's get into. Don't humor him, Steph. Okay. Yeah, okay, she says. She laughs. Look, he's talking to himself now. Poor bastards, lost his mind. All right, but you know you should do.

You should stick on Twitter. That'll help your mental stuff. All right, let's get into the story. And here it is. Oh, good. The lawnmower man is just going great. I love it. It's going good. Real good. All right. Star Wars, the movie Race for Ray and the future of the franchise on the big screen. The future of my of this big screen. Look at this. How's going on over here? This is a show. All right.

Scavenger Turned Jedi played by Daisy Ridley in the last three episodes is the key to the spacehoppers next towing. As Colin Farrell would say in the penguin. Forget the next, forget the Death Star, the most coveted weapon in the Star Wars movie Arsenal as a character of Ray. Since the November 7th reveal that Simon Kinberg had signed on to develop and write and produce a new Star Wars trilogy for Lucasfilm and Disney, the debate has focused on whether or not it would be a continuation of the so-called nine film Skywalker saga, tying it to the legacy of Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, and storylines first laid out by George Lucas in 77. The reason for the debate is that the new hope for the trilogy would feature Ray in some form or fashion. Some fans have expressed criticism.

The Lucasfilm would return to the well to make episodes, as they are called, beyond the nine movies that comprise the Skywalker story, which has been billed as concluding with 2019 Star Wars Episode 9, The Rise of Skywalker. That film grossed 1.7 billion, 1.07,000, globally, but also wasn't well received by much of the fan base. But Ray, the Scavenger Turned Jedi, played by Daisy Ridley in the last three episodes, is key to the franchise's next turn. that potentially puts Kinberg's trilogy story development as early in its conceptual stages,

as it may be on a collision course with the Ray standalone movie that is actively in the worst with director Charmine Oveid Chanoi. That feature revealed with fanfare in April 2023 at Star Wars Celebration in London is to star Ridley and could have already been in production where it not for some unanticipated headwinds with writers rotating around more than R2D2's Chrome Doe. A new writer search is underway. It's unclear when that one would go. Perhaps that is why Lucasfilm was receptive to Kinberg's multi-story pitch. Anything to move Ray forward, but it does engender rumors in the Star Wars underground of filmmakers jostling for characters. Ridley, for her part, recently told a Hollywood reporter that I feel like the new one, the new ones will be very interesting. Time has passed and a lot has changed

for me personally, so it'll be interesting to come back to someone who I know so well, but in such a different moment. While insiders dispute the notion that there's a battle for Ray, they're definitely his internal deliberation within Lucasfilm as to what to do with the air to Skywalker next. She is the most valuable cinematic asset in some ways maybe the only one Star Wars has right now. One source close to the franchise tells the reporter that Pedger-Pascals the Mandalorian and Yoda like Grogu are Disney Plus creations and have their big screen power tested in 2026. According to sources, Ray is set to play a role in several movies that are being developed, although which one remain unclear.

Star Wars movie development has been under scrutiny for years with Kathleen Kennedy taking fire for not developing meaningful characters beyond those created by Lucas prior to the sale to Disney in 2012 for $4 billion. And it's not like they have a ton of books in her office! And if the franchise looks forward in canon timeline, all those characters, Luke, Leah, Vader, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Haunt are dead or had their storylines wrapped in prequels or spin-offs. created in the post-Lucas era is arguably the only entity with currency on the big screen now. The closet is a little bear.

What the Kinberg hiring lays bare is that the development of movies at the company remains its own unique ecosystem in Hollywood. There are numerous Star Wars movies being developed at overlap characters or timelines. They are not related, but whatever one were to come out first could, in a domino effect, impact the other ones. Mangled's Dawn in the Jedi movie takes long before the Skywalker's may be one of the exceptions. Some Lucasfilm directors are aware of what others are working on, what others are not. That's smart. For instance, Tygo-Watiti is working on a Star Wars movie. Sean Levy has a feature project in the works,

and Donald Glover's Lando idea has moved over development from the TV to the film side of Lucasfilm. Rogue Squadron Project also still in development as a feature. It's a different way of development, says another insider familiar with the company's way of working. There's so much parallel work going on. It also points to the unique nature of Star Wars to fans. case, filmmakers and producers. It is not a brand of franchise, but something akin to a religion. Unlike Marvel or DC, with decades of stories propelling them forward, or even Harry Potter, with seven fleshed-up books, Star Wars at its core has been the original George Lucas movies,

and nothing has been codified or made more canonical in modern times than those two movies. False. False. False by Boris Kit. False by them. They announced a whole canon timeline with books and comics. What do you mean? To filmmakers and executives, the first trilogy is the Old Testament. They're being asked to create the New Testament, adds one source who worked on previous movies, and no one can agree on anything, and there's a lot of second-guessing about meaning. Another source familiar with the process is more business-minded, noting Star Wars is a nostalgia-based enterprise, and they're running out of ways to create nostalgia. The television side doesn't appear to have these problems.

Several insiders note that arm has a lot more freedom to expand Lucas's universe, which is why they'd be in a varied slate that runs the gamut. For better or worse than the eyes of the fans from Andor, season two comes out in April, to the acolyte not getting a season two as well as corner for a soaker creator Dave Filoni, chief creator officer at Lucasfilm. As an insider to make standalone movies or continuing the

Skywalker saga in any form is a fundamental question the company faces as it tries to move forward. Oof. Big oof. Mike, I know that you've got a lot of anger in you right now and I want you to use it here on what we just read.

Oh, that's great. Never mind. Go staff. Go to Steph. Oh, it's so good. Steph, go. It's like, I hate to say it's a bit, but it's one of my favorite bits going on right now. It is good to Steph.

It's like, cut to the baby. Cut to the baby. It's so good. Seth, your thoughts on this disaster. Okay, wait, but I, can I, can I, Uno reverse you and be like, what's like the biggest oof in that article when you're reading that? Um, so the whole thing or was there one thing that really yeah, you. It's a lot.

There's a lot. Um, but I think the one thing that stands out to me is, um, well, I mean, this is more of a Boris Kit thing also when they, but it's probably because of them. They said, well, they don't have a lot of stuff that they could pull out of. They like, like Harry Potter. Right, right. They literally made an announcement in 2012 and said that all of our books and our comic books will be canon moving forward.

And they have all of these great storytellers from Alexander Fried to Claudia Gray to to Christy Golden, the list goes on and on and on, how many great writers that they have, and stories that have been told inside of these universes, and new characters that have been developed throughout it, that they could choose some stuff. And even some of the non-canon stuff, the Darth Bain stuff, the other things that they have.

They have tons of it. They should have adapted the damn book for the Obi-One book that was out there, and they would have had a really solid story, get a really great screenwriter to come in, adapt that book, and they can do that. They don't do it. If you don't pay attention to the books and comics, he doesn't give a shit about them,

and because of that, Kathleen Kenny probably doesn't even know that they have the books in the comics, so she said as much. So that's a problem. The other big problem is the fact that, like, this is what happened last time. Some of the directors aren't even aware other directors are doing projects in the general area of what they're doing. They're not collaborating not doing anything. And it is the old school way of thinking and why Simon Kimberg, of course, is a safe choice of like, we need to get movies out.

Simon can get these done. We need to do a Ray movie. Here's some ideas. Let's do it. And though it's desperation. It's an absolute disaster. And I say this again, and then I'm going to pass to the stuff. I say it every time we talk about Star Wars, that I agree that you keep the comics,

whoever's writing the comics and the books, and everybody running that on that side of the things, the animation, you leave them be. You have to gut Lucas film executives at the top level in the TV and film. You've got to get rid of them. You've got to get rid of them. They have no idea what's happening. And clearly, it's a disaster over there. looking at the old trilogy as an old testament and trying to get so far away from it and not

understanding that it all plays together in the same way that they don't look at the Marvel phase one as Old Testament they look at it's okay we can we'll mention it here and there but we've got to keep building building building you can do that you build and build and build so it's it is it has absolutely just confirmed everything we've talked about it is that that group over does not know what they're doing. They just don't. Not when it comes to the shared kind of overall universe and having Simon Kimberg desperately make a trilogy

that's going to include Ray. I don't know, but those are my thoughts. There's going to be a lot more of those, but stuff what are you big? Yeah, so the parts that I find I empathize with and I actually agree with is that I do think that there is something unique to Star Wars lore that does supersede Harry Potter,

MCU, DCU, and the most famous franchises. And the way that I do think it is more like a way of life that people have taken, like the true fans really follow, you know, the lessons of Yoda and the Jedi in a way that feels a little bit more serious than some other franchises we see. But what I don't agree with is because of that, that that hinders their ability to move forward. to me that just is doing what you're saying, which is showing that there is a lack of leadership in the sense that like that should be an exciting area to play in. There's so much to do from there and it feels like they're very scared and only like they don't know how to make, they want to like

make money, but I feel like that's hindering their creativity and their ability to use the books, use the comics and use all the other characters in the universe and the franchise that they've already created so that part feels like what are you guys talking about that you don't know what to do there you have all these different movies that you guys have been announcing and it feels like just spaghetti it's yeah it's like they haven't picked what they want to do and it's been years now no they're running the company like they don't understand in the way that they are part of of the same way of, well, it should be, the same way of storytelling that DC and Marvel is right now. Granted, it's not the same exactly kind of linear thing every single time, but it's all

connected to a shared universe. And if you're doing it that way, you cannot make movies the way that you make them in the early 2000s or late, you know, in 1998, where you come in, you say, oh, producer, you got a good idea for a movie, great. We have something else kind of running around, but that's in development. You've got to have a mapped out plan. And, you know, you figure they would have learned that from the trilogy they have not they have not learned that they do not they try to just it's it's like this magical thing of trying to piece together the things to get a movie making movies and getting movies grinlit and getting them out a very very difficult thing to do so by doing it oh we got one thing oh this this is going to go well and having

daisy ridley by the way and having i'm i'm not of the mindset that oh they shouldn't be leaning with ray i think that's i think having ray in multiple movies is probably a good idea i think it brings in people and you can do some stuff and you can create new characters that particular way. But just throwing it against the wall, it's like, what are you doing? Are you doing that, that standalone Ray movie or doing a trilogy? Are you doing a Mangled movie? Are you doing? Like, what the hell are you doing? Mike, how are you in the gardener feeling? He's, I don't know what he's doing. All right. How are you feeling about this? Dude, I feel about this like I feel this morning.

What? I don't know. I don't, I don't, I don't, where it's like everyone talks you and i get it you know Kathleen kennedy great producer of what she's done but what's going on man the ship is the ship is sailed at this point not even sail it's hit every iceberg on the way it's taken on water like and they're just trying to do the same thing like this is yeah but it's like what we've talked about for how many years now it's the same thing yeah what what stands out from you from this article everything everything's it's a mess like yeah Simon Kimberg that you guys talked about that last week right he came in the guy did

dark Phoenix yeah but well why they bringing this guy in what did they go yeah that's the movie well now if they had said hey Nolan wanted to come in and take over star wars I'd be like oh he did low I was just thinking about that this morning I was like I they need a dark night trilogy they need that that would be so want a trilogy why why why why because no i'm just saying something like that do you know why they're doing do you know why they're doing a trilogy might because why i don't i agree with you by the way they shouldn't do a trilogy but why i do i'm just saying like a nolan film yeah yeah but why they are doing it is because they want to make sure that this problem of hey it's 2019 what a year is it now

2016 how many movies have you had none and it's like they want to make sure if they have a trilogy locked up that okay well least we know every two three years we're going to have a movie guarantee because we have this thing locked in we know we're putting into place and i think i'm telling you this and that's why even if you come up with a great idea of a movie and whatever it comes out this is this is why people like hey you said about this particular idea and the answer's always going to be no as long as this team is running it because yeah it's like yeah you got using the sports analogy you have the great players but you're having them call stupid plays and they're dropping the ball they're they're doing they're they're not even doing

right things you're asking him to do because they're out of place and it's a mess and it's the wrong it's the wrong coaching staff it is the wrong coaching staff and yeah i don't know why and and i did i said this and i say it again at this point it is no longer the lucas film pointing the finger at them you you pointed at eiger now you have to how do you allow this to continue yeah how can you allow this to continue it is so bad you paid all this money for this franchise and you're like oh yeah Yeah, yeah. What are you doing now? We think we're going to do a Ray trilogy. We got Simon Kimberg because that's what it's a desperation thing of just going,

we need to get movies made. And it doesn't matter if they're paying attention to each other or not. They don't realize that the creativity of it. And they have and they're so scared to try to dive in. Knights of the Republic could have been a franchise. They started five years ago. But Floney doesn't like it. Kathleen Kennedy doesn't get it.

She's two inside baseball. And they left it. They left it be. They almost adapted lost stars from what I had heard. as far as a, I don't know if it was going to be a series or a movies, and they thought nobody would get it because it was books. So they left it alone. They don't concentrate on the actual core of the writing and the core of the characters.

They're too busy of trying to play Moneyball with which characters are going to hit with the fans, and they're not going after content and real good stories. And again, with Filoni, it's like, Poloni is living in this religion of George where he doesn't let anybody else tell him what could be Star Wars. He knows. So because of that, you get zombie troopers and Asoka that looked like something out of a bad animated film. And it's a disaster. It's an absolute disaster over there.

Yeah, I think also it's unfair to Daisy Ridley, like this article, because she already has faced such unfair backlash. I really liked Ray as a character. I loved Ray as a character, actually. But I was excited for a Ray movie. I feel like that does make sense. And I do hear you. Like it makes sense to put her in different movies. And, but to make her the lifeline of your entire next movies is like an unfair way and also not what anyone is asking for.

When you guys finished the last trilogy, the sequel trilogy, it was to be over with and then expand the universe. And that has not happened. No, they've gotten to rely. because they're nervous and they don't know what to do and they want to make sure they get financial wins and they still have nostalgia. So the nostalgia now is for a movie with a star that came out in 2019 and just bringing her back to do more stuff. Which is now the more years that go by, the more you're missing the generation that fell in love with her. So it's like who are you aiming for now? Because now the kids who are going to start watching it maybe would have watched if their parents got them to

watch it because let's say this movie comes out in four years the generation that watched it in 2016 that's a different generation that i feel like they would be aiming for depending what age they're aiming for these days i'm not totally sure but um so i'm like who who is that fully serving i don't think they know stuff i i really don't think that they do because the other thing that was said in this article that i really disagree with they said that oh they feel like the the tv area is doing is doing good it is yeah that was like when that popped up i was like what right yeah i mean the tv is doing good i mean yeah sure and or they're gonna be in good shape next year because and or is the only thing they have coming out right well we'll see we'll see how

skeleton crew does i'm hoping for a fun adventure yeah i think skeleton crew has given itself a pretty soft place to land because it's clearly more kid centered and i think that that opens up a door where you're a little bit more accepting and not needing it like you're not promised this dark mafia story and then given you know the flintstones it's a hundred percent that's a great point because it's like where you got pitched an obiwan show that's going to be this rekindling of vater and and or not rekindling but like the beef continues between these two foes and you got that for like 35 percent the rest is this relationship with young lea the rest of it is the riva stuff and it's like not not paying attention to

to what you pitch to the fans what the fans want right then you get acclite you're going to see the true detective Sith adventure nothing of the sort um and then the Bobafet you're going to get the supremacus you're going to get that thing no watch the penguin that's that that's what that's how you do that I know I really feel like the penguin writers were like what's really pissing off people and then they looked at Star Wars and the last three shows and it's not do that the villain turned good And they were like, no, no, let's make the penguin a monster. A hundred percent because he had to be. He's a villain.

And you don't have to turn. And it wasn't just Star Wars that was doing it. I remember. No, right. Right. But they're very guilty of it. But Maleficent does it. I remember watching it.

Come on. You can make the bad guys bad. And people will watch the show and people will watch it. And I guess you can argue with the Ackleit that you kind of have that. But the reason behind it, nobody cared about those freaking twins anyway. but yes if you can actually put forward what you're what you're talking about and say let's let's put together an actual idea structure and and make it happen but um the tv though i don't i and or is going to deliver but to your point i think i agree with you stuff i think that skeleton crew when

you look at that you look at that trailer and you say i know exactly what this is this tone is aiming for right like i already know that i'm going to try to watch you at my seven-year-old Yeah. I'm going to try to watch it and see like it didn't have a Star Wars feel to me. It felt like a fun amblin space adventure, but that's okay. Maybe it's a really good show. And maybe I was like, well, you know what? That actually did have a lot of that Star Wars magic. It just doesn't show in the trailer in the same way that I didn't think that Transformers won

showed the actual essence of Transformers in the trailer, but delivered so hard in the movie itself. But yeah, I don't know, Mike. and then do you what do you think as far as do you think i'm being too extreme when i'm saying that the that the powers that be within lucas film the tv executives the film executives higher need to be replaced um i i i i you said about i go that's a good good you know assessment because he's been there how long he's been back now two three years now something like that he's leaving nothing happened but he's leaving and he's leaving he's leaving he's leaving he's leaving he's leaving again. Oh, we didn't. Okay. Even in 2026 or 2025, 25 or 27. I can't remember. He's leaving soon.

I, I, yeah, I don't. Like, it, I, I'm speechless, I guess. I know. I don't know. It's like, why there isn't an answer. It seems pretty easy. DC and Marvel were able to do, Marvel kind of did a soft reset and DC did a hard one. James Gunn has done more for the DCU. in seven months or a year, then Kathleen Kennedy has done for the continuity of Star Wars. I think maybe that's the problem is with Star Wars. They can't admit that something's wrong. Exactly.

DC was like, yeah, that stuff's good what you guys did, but it's not clicking with the fans. You're going to change it. Marvel was like, whoa, we went way too hard. We got a little big on our britches. We got to fix this. But Star Wars has not come on and go, hey, these things didn't do well.

No, they think good job, guys. The people don't get it. They don't understand. That's the problem. You got the egos involved that are not saying, hey, we like the product we made, but people didn't. So we got to do something. They got to do something.

Yeah, that's a big. It's a big mess. And Steph, same. I know that you don't really, you're not like, yeah, get rid of them. But you hear what I'm saying here? Do you think that it's this is because you're sports, you follow the sports and teams that are certain teams that you love. If there are calls that are being made, you know, you're not.

playing the wrong players and you keep and you should be winning and coming in first place and you're coming in last place every year people the management team usually gets fired right like they're on pace to in 10 years from now be studied for the downfall of one of the greatest franchises of all time really because if they keep going at this pace they'll be you know they'll be like on on par with disney channel originals where they're good like you know they're good just shows to watch but it's not like you're like cannot wait for the show to drop or the movie to go to the theater they're just not gaining the excitement and the trust in the fans that the other franchises are doing and just how they're not evolving with television and movies the entire structure of the way we watch

entertainment has changed and it feels like they're the last two Oh, dude, they are running it so, it reminds me so much of when I was in the studio system 20 years ago. It reminds me so much of how, like, it is the same way that Joe Silver did things, the way that a lot of those executives did things. And Kathleen Kennedy does it the same exact way. Who's the hot director right now? Who's the hot writer right now? Let's get them into a Star Wars movie. What story are you going to tell?

We'll see what they want to do. And what about the other one over here? It doesn't matter. If they have a better story, let's just do that. We just have to get something greenlit. We got to make it because they get bonuses. They get these other things that happen when it goes. And she makes more money when movies are getting greenlit.

So she knows that she can make. What does she do? She put out a trilogy that people do not love. But we mentioned it many times over to her. She can give a shit because those movies all made over a billion dollars, including Rogue One, which is the fourth one, that one people do love. But out of those four movies, billion dollars, she has wins. So she's like, okay, you know what?

As long as I get a trilogy with signing a convert, she still thinks, the fans are just going to go out and see it. And she might not be wrong that they might just go out and go see no matter what they put out because it's Star Wars. I think that that, I think that that magic has worn off tremendously. But I still, but if you put, I do think mandolorean and grogo is going to do very well. No, yeah. I think and when I said that the things are good, they're usually are good enough to me. But you expect Star Wars to be great.

So I do think that those movies are going to be received. Well, I do think any movie they make is probably going to do decent in the box office, partially from curiosity, but that magic that they once had is deteriorating quick, not even quickly. I feel like it's been like a slow burn. The people, like even me are getting fatigued with it and hoping for something different, but it just reminds me of like when you're editing something or picking between colors and you just need to get a different set of eyes on it they just need a different set of eyes on it because i don't think that they have the

clarity or the vision that's necessary to take it to the next level at all no they don't and it's and it's they need like a full on structure and they need and simon kinnberg is the very safe choice he'll get the movies made and the question is he if he's just writing it and he doesn't have any help writing it like it's stephen knight writing a star wars movie peekie blinders and he's he loved left because he was tired because they didn't know what the hell they were doing over there. And we can go through the list of how many people have left. And then they still mention Tycho and TD in there. They're still mentioning Ryan Johnson's trilogy at one point and Patty Jenkins doing a movie.

They have no idea whether or not. They're like, well, you know, we'll see if we get a good draft. We'll make it. And it's like, that should not be the way you're doing it because that's how it usually was. That's how it would go. I remember sitting in Silver's office and them going, how is that new draft? It's really good. Okay, we're going to bring this to the studio and make sure we're going to get this done.

How about this one? That one's okay. Which one are we going to do first? Which ever draft is better. And you can't do that with a continued universe. You can do that just in a regular, you know, studio system. But you can't do that with a shared universe. Have an idea.

Have a plan. And then the thing that really is frustrating is the fact, why have they not tried to adapt any of their books, New York Times best selling books that they've had? Why have they not tried to do this? Right. It is, it's like right here. How does, how doesn't, that's why I, that's why I still, and very well, there might be people inside of it.

And that's why I was try to clarify that I'm talking about the high level executives that I think need to go. And not like, because I'm sure there's some creative executive that doesn't have a say at all and comes in and goes, hey, why don't we adapt this book? And they, and he or she gets shot down, you know, no, two inside baseball. We're not doing that. Dave doesn't think it lines up to what George wants to do. No, this, this isn't going to work. No, we're not doing that.

We've got to come up with, who's the big director who that just, oh, the Deadpool Wolverine guy, get that guy in here. Let's say, what does he want to do? Someone lightsabers, cool, sign it up. And it's like, as opposed to, well, what are you thinking? Claudia Gray did a really great novel of Quigon and Obi-Wan. Can we adapt that to the second season of, and kind of of Obi-Wan, maybe kind of go back and forth with that and take some ideas from that and maybe have a writer's room? and take some of these great storywriters that we have that we've used that really get the lore. Can we bring them in on board and then then bring in our screenwriters and then bring in,

can we do that? Yeah, let's do that. Right. It's in front of your face. Yeah, it's like there's no, like with other companies like Pixar, there's like a pipeline that happens. And it feels like there's a community within the company and a lot of the animators become writers and voice actors become writers or directors. and it feels like they're like all involved in making this. And that's why they have all these different movies coming out.

And they usually do really well. This is like, I don't know who's how this works. Yeah. And I saw some comment that I guess isn't hearing what I'm saying. Someone said, all I want is pointless prequels. That makes no sense at all. There's also different stories that take place further in the future. And if you can do stuff where you can continue on with the lore and do

books and have the same types of writers that are coming in and develop the characters, you can push forward way past episode nine and see where the galaxy has indeed been taken. And you can fit Ray into that. But you need to have a structured plan. So I think that person commented on the wrong video and was talking about a different Christian because they must have been watching a different video. But if you go and you go to the overall thing and develop it with writers that understand okay this is going to connect this this this this and this way but we're going to do

this one this one's going to take place like a hundred years after episode nine whatever it's like create that lore create that thing create have have trust in writers that can do it and don't just rehash the same stuff like they did with episode seven we need a death start let's blow it a star killer base oh let's do what about the what about stormtroopers yeah just new ones now new resistance whatever and like they don't they're too they're too worried to change right Yeah, which is bizarre because I don't know. I just feel like they have the money and freedom to do that, but they're so stuck in this way. And it just feels like we're seeing hearing the same news cycle over and over with them.

And nothing's changed like it feels like three years of this really. Right. It feels like since the pandemic. It's been. I mean, well, I mean, I guess three. It's well, since since 2019, they haven't made chits. It's been five years since 2019, but, yeah. But, yeah, they haven't had anything.

I mean, there's been tons of stuff they were supposed to do. Benny Off and Weiss had the thing. You know, they were going to do Patty Jenkins. They did a whole big announcement with her flying in the in the X-wing with the helmet on. And that fell apart. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. And it's kind of, I just remember the first one I really remember the big story was Lord and Miller when that was that was solo, but that was like back in the whatever it was.

2017 is when that all went down leading into the release. So 2016, 27, whatever it was. But that was the first time I remember, like, uh-oh. Like things are starting to stink in Denver, as they say, right, Mike? Rotten and, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Rotten and you're in one today, buddy. I understand it.

No, you have no clue what's going on. No? Turning up gas? Yeah, I wish it was that. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, you need to take a break? No, I'm good.

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And I said, man, you understand how much you're helping out of the show. And now you're going to smell wonderful. You're really going to like it. So I'm going to ask you guys this question. Because I'm curious, because you guys both pay it. Mike, you want to be in? the framework now you're right um so that i know you guys with news when it comes to news you pay attention with news and everything to it did you guys hear anything about the hearings that happened

yesterday which ones perfect okay that's all i want to know um all i let's let's i knew there were some i haven't looked into it doesn't matter okay let's get to the next story well let's and is there anything else we want to wrap up about this with um this whole thing because Do you think, let me ask you this. Let me ask both of you guys this. Where do you think they go? Where do you think, let's say two years from now? What do you think the state of Star Wars?

If this team is still in place in two years, this article is dead on. They're going to just, they need, they're going to put all the pressure on poor Daisy Ridley. And they're going to try to create characters around her. And hopefully they get this. That's what they, if they had to. competent team there, then I would say that the plan could be build out around Daisy Ridley and get some writers to create like four or five characters around her that you really, really like, right? You got to treat it. It's not an easy task, but you try to create some new

characters that fans are really going to like. And with the goal of, okay, if the fans really respond, then we give the new scoundrel their own movie. We give the new Jedi their own movie. That could be the plan if it really responds. Imagine like go back in time and if it was this shared universe and they create the trilogy and then the trilogy Return the Jedi ends and they're like, well, we need more Star Wars movies. And then it follows Luke's adventures from, you know, Jedi until whatever it might be, or then there's Leah and Han and what they've been doing. You don't do that now. I'm saying

that if it was the same mentality back then, of the idea of, oh, we're building out franchisees, we're building out pieces. Build out the pieces around, you know, what's happening. Now, I just don't think that they're competent enough to do that. I think that what they're going to do is say, we need Ray movies to hit and make a billion dollars, and then we just kind of, oh, okay, well, we had so-and-so,

and they're signed up for the second movie. We don't know if they're going to come back for the third, and what are you doing the in between you hope the mangled gets together and and you know gets gets lucky with it with a big one i mean mangled's great but you know you want you want them to create that but where do you think it goes me yeah no the other guy hello it okay let me ask you maybe this is where i feel like i just have no hope for star wars right now and i'm not looking forward to anything that makes any sense yeah it does it does it does i just don't it does i'm like like to me i'm really excited like over the moon excited for dc i cannot wait to see what's going to happen i'm like

building up to it marvel i like fantastic four and in this stuff that they seem that they want to do you know but star wars i'm just like whatever and and like it was no excitement there's no i'm gonna say this i'm gonna be a hard thing to swallow maybe. I'm not excited for Andor. What? Because I loved it so much and but there's just been so much, you know. But I'll tell you why you should be excited, but I'll tell you why you should be excited for that show. Because it's all going to be awesome. That's why. No, baby. Your, your, your concerns are more than valid. But Tony Gilroy's off doing his own thing.

No one's bothering Tony Gil. I know. I know, man. And where, Faluny doesn't collaborate with him. Flonio is happy that it's gone after season two. But that is his own thing. But here's the thing. A caveat to that is it's going to be done after nine episodes or whatever. And then I'll be like, what now? 100%. That's like Marvel.

It's always slowly building and building and building. You know, okay, they're on the right footing. And you're looking forward to the next thing. You're looking for the next thing. And it builds to whatever. This is like, I'm going to have a great time for eight, nine weeks with you guys. And this is going to be awesome. And then it's going to be like, we're back in the toilet again.

Here we go. Right. Because because it, because of the leadership. Because they don't, like I said, You take one creator. You hope the creator gets, gets it. Tony Gilroy gets it, making it work. It's going to be solid.

And then you're like, well, where's that go next? And it's almost like when Marvel had Marvel had Guardians three. It's like, oh, yeah, Marvel's bags. Like, no, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Yeah, yeah, I get you. And then the next movie, I think, was the Marvel's after that. So it's like, be careful because they don't, it's in the same thing.

It's what is the plan? And to answer your question, I, am not excited. I will not be excited about it until I hear that the, and it's not just people can be like, oh, Kathleen Kennedy, she's gone. Yay. It's a Star Wars can get back together. That's not it. Because anybody that she put into place is still going to be there and they're going to follow the same things that she did. You got to get rid of the top tier executives. Get rid of them. Let them help them find other jobs and then get rid of them. So I don't know. Seth, where do you think it goes. Do you think is there any way it turns around in the next five, 10 years? I have no hope for this.

In the next five, 10 years. Yeah, I would say maybe in the next, like, closer to 10 years. But I think that just the way production moves with movies, there's no way that they can do that in five years. I mean, maybe at the cusp of five years. But they would need to in the next six months, like completely have a extreme makeover. I just don't understand. You're Bob Eiger. I just don't understand like where he goes, how many times can you say, oh, she'll get it together? How do you think he cares because they're making money? Are they? I mean, well, the last time. If I, if I, if I buy something for you, from you and I want and I hire you to make me things to continue on my investment of, and then you deliver on right away, in 2012, we buy you, okay, the first one, first movie we're going to get,

for you is going to be in three years, but we're going to get it. We're going to make a lot of money for you. And you deliver on that promise and you make a billion dollars. I'm like, okay, nice job. What's next? I've got another one coming out next year. Rogue one comes out. It hits a billion dollars.

I go, you're on my good side. That's two, that's two billion dollars. I don't give a shit what the fans are saying. How about the third? Pretty controversial, controversial, but we still made a billion dollars on it. Great. Okay. What's next?

Solo. All right, I want that out in May. No, no, no. I need to put it out in December. No, put it out in May. Put it out in May. up we're making money no i need to put it on december i force you to put it on may on my my bad because a we just had the last jet i think and everything else too okay my bad what do you got next well here's the

next one's the last thing in the in the trilogy uh another billion dollars i'm going oh okay okay so we're good now what's next and you go hold on a second hold on a second pandemic it's like all you got a little bit of time you got a little bit time now now what all right we got this so they fell apart we don't have that okay but by now it's 2021 nope nothing 22 got anything for me Nope, 2023, nothing. 2024. Our next movie's come out in 2026. You are fired.

I don't care how much money you made for me. I gave you $4 billion to make me money. You did it for a little bit. And now you're gone. It's business. You are gone. And your team goes with you. Where would you like me to make a phone call for you?

I hear George Clooney's hiring. That was a great reenactment. Who was? Thank you. That was. Yeah, I mean, it's true. I do think it's, it is. It is like the lull is you can't ignore it.

It's really fierce. I don't hear my family stopped watching the shows. They were watching Mandalorian, but in the past few years, they've just, they didn't even check out Ann Door, I think, because the lull hit them faster. No excitement. And yeah, so I think that it's sad.

Yeah, it is. And so it's said in the chat just now, I said with everything that I just said, she still won't be fired. And it's true. That's why I say it's Iger's fault. Like you, you can't listen to what I did. I didn't make any of that up. That all happened.

Like, why do you think he or they are not? Do you have any idea? Maybe she's got pictures of them. I don't know. Some party they went to in Vegas. I have no, who knows. Like it's, but it's, it's, and it wasn't just, it wasn't just him. Chepec kept her around too.

And, you know, yeah. It's interesting because back. with Marvel when they were having their kerfuffle and like the cg i was getting a bad rap they got rid of that victoria alonzo real fast right and i know there's other stuff involved but she kind of was like the fall girl for a lot of like overworking the vfx artists because she wasn't kevin faggy she was kathen kethan kheny is in the kevin faggy position but kathlet kathie ain't firing anybody no i know but i mean but but kathleen kentz fires of people kathleen kennedy needs to fire some people Clearly. Who does she needs a fire? People, I don't know. Kathleen Kennedy? I mean, she's

Kathleen Kennedy is the figgy of Star. You have imagined, yeah, but the problem is this. If you're like, hey, why did she fire me? Well, I pitched a whole bunch of ideas and she said no, but she fired me. Why would you do? I guess she didn't like my ideas. Were they good ideas? Who knows? It never got made. She wanted to do her thing. It's like, she's the, her, the only one that she could fire is Filoni. And I think she needs to push him back to animation or keep him in the, TV universe with with Favro because the religion aspect that he's got going on with how he sees Star Wars is as much of a downfall as what as what she's doing with the executive stuff. Yeah.

It's a mess, dude. It's an absolute mess. Yeah. It's a mess. But I'll tell you what's not a mess is the box office for Gladiator 2. Yeah, right now, they're saying it's targeting an 80 to 90 million dollar global start. Ridley Scott's gladiator. sequel has begun its overseas rollout with over 60 markets having either opened the film or about to in the next 24 to 48 hours. The global rollout comes out ahead of the U.S. and China release, which doesn't take place until next Friday. Even without the two biggest markets in the world, though, the film is ready to earn some serious coin. Deadline reports that the film is on track for an international opening weekend of around 80 to 90, possibly higher for the big budget

epic, which stars Paul Meskel, Pedro Piscall, Denzel, Washington, Joseph Quinn, Fred Hesinger and Connie Nielsen. The filmmakers and cast have been globally touring the film in seven countries and across continents with the tour ending last night in London ahead of the U.S. premiere in Los Angeles. In the U.S. domestic market, the film is tracking to earn $65 million on its debut and is expected to come in second behind Wicked, which launches the same day and is due to open at $80-plus million. Reviews for the film aren't the 2000 Gladiator good, but they're decent, 76% on Rotten Tomatoes.

I still don't understand that because as I've seen, as I've seen, told you guys before where a lot of people still don't really understand how rotten tomatoes works right right anything over three out of five is a positive right so if you so it's a fresh rather so if you if if a hundred people saw a movie and all 100 of them thought it wasn't bad three out of five that movies at a hundred percent of rotten tomatoes so and it makes it look like it was a great movie but you don't know what what what it is so do I think that this movie was anywhere lower than a three out of a five I don't I think it is a really fun action epic movie and i'm excited for i gave it eight out of ten is what i gave it on my

score um i really like the movie a lot but i don't know did you guys step did you see this one yet no not yet okay i not yet i told my family i would see it with them because yeah it's like our big one of our starting our holiday theater experience but i'm really excited for it yeah i've heard kind of what you're saying is that it's not the epic gonna be the Oscar contender that the original was, but that it's a really great fun action movie. So that's all I really need, I think, to get me in the theater. That would be good enough for me. Like it would, yeah, that delivers makes the $20 ticket completely worth it.

And what about you, Mike? Do you care about this one at all? Um, it looks fun. Like a good movie, but yeah, I'll see it. But I'm not, um, I don't know. I'll anything Denzel's and I'm I'm game for so yeah and he's and he's having fun he's I mean there's there's no doubt about it that's he's he's this is what you yeah was this I if I'm mistaken I think you would say this is one of your most anticipated in 24 right was yeah okay

and it was um and like I said I really enjoyed watching it I really enjoyed I didn't love the first trailer I didn't I like the music and music wasn't and I went in my review which I released yesterday I said that there's some really bad like flash level cg i heard that in the in the movie itself glad it's too there's two like they're both they're both with like with animals right there's like this um like baboon or whatever it's not enough that moon yeah so he doesn't suck you out of it i mean it does during that scene but it doesn't ruin the movie um yeah i don't know um anyway yeah that feels like such an odd choice from redley scott i just it's weird because it's where 24 years past the first one and you're

still in the cg i looked this is some bad cg i in the first movie but this that was 2 000 a little more forgiving there's there's two things with animals in this year like oh this brutal watch i'm like just get past the scene i can't take it serious at all but the animals were real in the first one at least i thought there was one tiger shot that wasn't but tiger was half and half Half and half. Okay. I'm not, I don't have as keen of an eye, but the I liked the first one made it feel like they were really in ancient realm. Like I was just like we're here. So we're going to get to your questions in just a second here, but I will say what I saw last night and there's another story regarding this star of the movie. Red one I saw last night. Oh gosh. Dwayne the Rock Johnson is mocked now again for sharing a bizarre story about watching Oppenheimer and IMA. And he said there was a time when the Rock could do no wrong.

Having conquered the world of pro wrestling, he established himself as a Hollywood A-lister, was widely credited with saving the struggle, struggling Fast and Furious franchise. Few of his movies have been critical darlings, but the vast majority have been proud-pleasing off his hits. In 2022, Black Adam was meant to launch a new DCEU revolving around the actor, instead it flopped, and things haven't gone well for him since.

His missteps range from XFL struggles to Young Rock's cancellation and the way he was rejected by many W.E. Fans year which saw him to attempt to take Cody Rhodes' place at WrestleMania. He remains the most disliked YouTube video in the company's history. The Rock is still incredibly successful, of course, and plans to take on his first serious role with A-24 as the Smashing Machine. However, his latest big budget effort, Red One has proven to be another critical and commercial letdown. In the video, Johnson says that a screening at Oppenheimer, which saw The Rock sit specifically in Christopher Nolan's seat, left him with the belief that

should his upcoming movie Red One use the same technology, it could be Game Over. With Red One, our intention was to make a movie that you can enjoy on the biggest screen possible. Legitimately, the biggest screens possible are IMAX. I was midway through shooting Red One and had an opportunity to see Oppenheimer. I watched it in the IMAX theater where Christopher Nolan watches and screens his movies. Him and Emma Thompson, Thomas, his wife, I even asked to let me sit where Chris sits. They said, Chris sits here. I watched Oppenheimer.

It was amazing, but I was thinking, holy shit, Red One on this screen and this technology could be game over. I remember texting Jake Kaz in a picture of my bare chest and a picture of the screen. realizing how cool iMacs would be when you figure out why johnson's set picture of his bear chest reminds you that red one's budget was 250 million dollars it only made 26 million so far at the international box office it's eyeing a soft 20 million in north america it's got 35 percent on rotten tomatoes um okay i'm not going to give him as much crap on this stuff like he he he's at a touch he's out of touch with the idea of what the movie itself watching it it's like This movie was made by somebody who thinks that these types of movies,

that he's this big 90s action film, everybody's gonna go see his movies, and we can spend as much money as wanna, because we'll make it back. The movie is not, you hear this movie in the first, Mike, Mike groan, Mike goes, oh God, right? It's not an oh God groaning, horrible movie. It's not.

It's nothing I would recommend anybody seeing in the theater. You don't need to see it in this in the theater. It's a movie that I'm at home, it's Christmas time. I have watched every Christmas movie back, and forth and there's a new one in amazon prime with the rock and chris evans should i throw it on in the background and let let it play sure do you need to see this in iMacs no you don't um so mike do you have any problem with the fact that he you know he went and saw the nolan screening and and thought that you'd be at i max or just to show how out of touch he is i i think we should all

aspire to have the levels of confidence and balls that the rock has to sit there and say like wow we get the we get red one and we get it in this same theater it's going to go ballistic yeah and i honestly i thought red one was a netflix film it should have been it should have been it should have been yeah i yeah i'm frozen again my there we go okay why not any more people would rather stuff talk anyway go ahead stuff um what do you think uh i no do i think that we should dunk on him because he wants to believe in his film the same way that one of the greatest filmmakers of all time believes in his own. No, I think anyone who wants to make something great.

One thing I do respect about him is he gives a hundred at everything. And he works really hard and that's a well-known fact within the industry and you can't not respect that. Does it mean that he's creating even in the same genre or level or universe as Christopher Nolan? No, it's not it's not the same thing. I think that I do think that billionaires and people who are multi-millionaires like Kevin Hart and him are out of touch with things like this because they are so liked. They are so paid. They are so followed. But that's not the same thing as making a massive blockbuster film.

It's not. It doesn't mean that it's a for sure shoe in because you are the most paid person in Hollywood. But doesn't this go back to what we were just talking about with Bob Eager, right? When you look at the people at Amazon to go, this guy just did Black Adam and spent like $400 million, $300 million on that movie and it didn't even break even. Why are we giving him $250 million, $225 million, whatever it is to make a Christmas movie with Captain America and, and J.K. Simmons, why are we doing that? I think they're out of touch. Totally. It's like 100%.

It's like, what do you? I mean, yeah, well, it's a Christmas movie. We'll put it in around November, everybody gets excited for the holidays, and we'll get, it's like, it's not the movie people are going to see for the heart. I just think it's,

it's the Hollywood, you know, way of take some spaghetti, throw it to the wall. And hopefully we've got the right ingredients that this one's going to stick. And it's like, this is,

you know, it's funny, someone said, and I'm going to bring it up, and it's a super chat, but someone said, it did, it did remind me a little bit of jingle all the way.

It had, but not in, there were some hard, there were some moments that this movie had heart. There were some moments. And it was like, oh, just and just when they did, then they had to do a big CGI scene with the rock running on the, on a hill and then jumping on a train and then doing this big huge thing where they clearly were trying to get this big action stuff. And it gets lost in any of the moments that were good are lost. So I don't know.

I can't imagine. And plus the fact, and then whoever scheduled it around both Wicked and Gladiator too, more. Right. Because no one's talking about anything but Wicked. and gladiator two there. Press, specifically, Wicked's is absolutely insane. Yeah, they're probably thinking stuff that,

oh, well, they were a different audience, we're the family audience. It's like, the family's going to see Wicked is. Wicked is. Wicked is and also Gladiator 2 for an older family, like mine. Right. Those two are completely family movies in different ways. Yeah, it's like almost like their people are trying to make movies

like the five, six, seven, eight fast and furious franchise where they kind of just like do whatever they want, but it's awesome. But that was like after four movies that were somewhat steeped in some grounding. And then they earned the audience to suspect. And then they were like, you know what? Let's just bring in every famous action star and make this absolutely insane. And it worked. But I don't think other franchises have been able to do that for the theater, like the big action movies are you know the top gun mavericks uh but mission impossible didn't even do great this movie should have cost 80 million dollars to make yeah take a shot and i don't think they're gonna make that right like the eddie murphy was that the jingle all the way the eddie murphy

netflix christmas movie last year right right but something like fun and stupid and i was like and he's got a deal but i think i think the rock to me goes a little too you know this is what it's in his MO. He was too big sometimes. I think this was too big. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, what do you guys think about this? Is anyone going to see this? And Steph, have you been sad about this? Oh, yeah, I am. I am. Wait, I said no face, no case. Why are you giving me a dead face? What? I don't want to. Well, I was like, well, you don't really know if he's dead. But now I'm seeing, I'm seeing visual proof. Yeah, he could be playing dead, but he hasn't moved. He hasn't moved. So, like a possum. Yeah, he could be. Anyway, um, put your thoughts in there, guys.

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questions um and we've got a ton of them so we have 52 going into it stuff so you need about 30 more you guys let's go can you beat rookie you teamed up last time but can you beat them we shall see as they say in some parts of france i don't know if they say that um okay here's the the first one. What is that noise? Not me. No, it's it's my hairy. Okay. It's like an elephant got caught in a trap or something. Yeah, you're being an elephant. He says, sorry. That's hilarious. It's better than the, than the whatever Mike had going on there. Ian Davis, our Star Wars characters are able to force heel now. How do we feel about these things? They, they, forciel was always a thing in like the old republic stuff and other things too for for skill was the thing how do we feel about

these things plot devices that keep throwing in there that would have been real nice to have any older movies well in the older movies there look there are certain it depends in the lore there are certain jettai that could do it and there are certain jettys that cannot so in the older movies it's probably some of them that maybe couldn't do these things right so depending on how powerful they were i don't i don't hate that it's just a matter of if it's it does just kind of feel thrown in there but i don't know do you mind that stuff No, no, I don't, I don't mind that. Mike, are you still here?

I mean, Mike, what do you think? I'm still here. Okay. It seems like they're going to put in anything into the story that will suit that particular story without any regard to what happens on anything else. That's fair. So when you're dealing with a small sandbox like Star Wars, you got to like, I mean, we saw it. We made fun of it.

People made fun of it like, oh, so. I forgot our name in and Assoco with the punky hair She gets stabbed with the saber Oh she's fine Then next series someone gets stabbed him The same exact way Ah dead

Like Right You gotta come up with some kind of It's true Yeah the lightsaber people getting stabbed with lightsabbers And being okay It was horrible And it's like I love the

I didn't them Bader stabbed Riva And she was okay Yeah he got stabbed too And Vader, one of the smartest villains out there, she's like, yeah, she'll be all right. I mean, she's dead. She'll die.

It'll be fine. Yeah, I mean, and it's not just like a slash. It's straight through your body. Yeah, she should have died. I mean, Quigon died. Let's see. So, Ewok, I'm okay with Kimberg guiding the overall story for all three films, but I'd like to see him collaborate with top tier writers and directors for each.

I'm sure that's a plan. I'm sure that's a plan for them to try to do. the question is who are they going to get they're probably just going to get because i i think that one of the main reasons that people keep dropping off of projects is they don't they can't get a they can't see eye to eye with kennedy so she's just going to get a bunch of yes people around kinnberg and that's not going to be good for anybody no yeah um and now i walk says if the films turn out to be episodes 10 to 12 who would you want to direct each film yeah that's hard for me to say i i don't i don't know who i'd want to direct them right now because it's like

Is it going to be someone in their rotation? And that's the thing that I don't want to do anymore. Is that I don't want to say like, oh, you know, it would be great. Well, we didn't. When episode seven was coming out, we had like a Star Wars draft and who we thought could not only be in and be certain characters and we had a lot of fun with it. I just, it's not, it's not that level of fun anymore, you know? So to even think of who would direct, they're just going to get somebody who's just going to be able to do whatever they want to do. So.

The one who I'm kind of. of jumping on well i've been a fan of hero marai for a long time um he's done a ton of fame really famous music videos in atlanta mr mrs smith and he works oftentimes with um don't glover and he is now doing an a 24 samurai movie called boshito and i'm so excited for it and i was like man i wish that you took that energy to star wars for real and speaking of like because you i was thinking as you were saying that i was thinking about shogun right and right why doesn't Justin Mark's written anything for Star Wars? I'm sure he's been in meetings,

but that would have been interesting too. That would be too, yeah, totally. And you could see, you get already see our guy over there too. He's like, I need to get to my boat, except I need to get to my ship. Which is, do you have a lightsaber? Yeah, Cosmo. Yeah. All right.

Roman, hey all, hope the week has been treating you well. Thank you, Roman. Thank you for the time and effort you put into these shows for reviewing. Greatly appreciate it. Thank you for continuously watching, Roman, you're the man. He said, what are some of your most disappointing film? from this year for me it's Deadpool and Wolverine it's a good movie but I think it missed a shot of greatness I understand that I think that's fair um disappointing movie when that I saw it in love

oh the Joker Joker too oh yeah yeah easily yeah that's yeah that's yeah that's a good one you do declare right right right not even in the mood to do that today no soul is sucked at it wow you're right yeah I'm all right Roman Fedorak enjoy asking this when Mike is here what are some hot takes on movies that you have I'll start Blade Runner 2049 is better than the original no disrespect ever to anyone

that disagrees with me though I had one the other day that I was thinking of I got my movie hot take it's not something new I've said it forever I think the dark night is the worst is the least good of the Dark Night trilogy. Yeah, I know

I think that's stupid. Yeah. That's what it's called the hot take shit head. Hot take. I think Agatha all along is the best Marvel series. Whoa. Whoa. Hot damn. Yeah. Hey, hi. Hot, hot.

Hot. Hot take. I hate I hate avocados. Oh my God. Is that for Rizzle? Yeah. I could physically fight when I'd be okay with it. I can't. I hate it. I hate avocados too.

The only time I like... Whoa, guys. The only time... Wackamole? No, never. I don't like racemole. What I tell you, though, is that for some reason, in sushi, when it's like little cubes of avocado, then I can deal with it.

All right. Artem. Shakuraman. Andor had to be made by HBO and Disney. Just want to say this. How can a studio that made Andor also make accolay? Because of what we were just talking about, Arndham. It's different creators that they're, like,

It's not the same. It's different creators. That's why when people always say when they blame Disney, well, Disney can't make a good Star Wars thing. It's like you've got to blame Lucasfilm because no one ever gives Disney the credit on end game. Everybody loves end game.

Nobody ever says, oh, Disney did a great job with endgame. They say Russo brothers and Kevin Feigy. This is Disney. Why don't they give? When there's the big hits that you like, why don't you give Disney the credit? But when it's when it's crap,

you always say, ah, it's Disney's fault. No, it's Lucasfilm's fault. It's Disney's fault that they, They haven't fired them. So I guess in that point, sure. But like, yeah, for the movies that are being made, it's the production team. What are you doing? So, yeah, that's how I, uh, when it comes to TV, same thing.

It's like that was all Lucasville. They decided to give Leslie Headland $220 million to make this show. And like, that's the other thing. You talk about the rock. Kathleen Kennedy spends money like my kids play Monopoly. You know, it's like, yeah, she spent. I mean, that Indiana Jones, $300 million. Like, after that, in my thing before, Steph,

when I was doing that little monologue, I didn't even bring that up. The one movie that she does do, that's not Star Wars, loses, like $100 million or whatever it was. Right. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah, it's like, hey, you know what? Yeah, I know you haven't made any money for me for that one franchise. The other one, how about that one that we really want to bring back?

with the guy that we like you got it yeah we got it okay how much are we going to make on that one well we actually lost 150 okay no problem hey i'm having a christmas party tomorrow you want to come over and shit my living room the same thing ardom follows it up in about two weeks after submitting first draft kinberg will realize that he has a scheduling conflict now not not not that's why they're bringing them on because that's what you're not going to get that that this is a desperation move this is because they lose everybody and they know that simon kinberg you can't Hey, hey, Simon, we don't like this draft. We instead want to have our main character be a rhinoceros with a clown hat.

Can you do that? Sure, I'll do it for you. That's what that, you're not going to get pushback. He's going to do whatever you want. So he's not leaving. Mike Joyce, how was the UAP hearing overall? The only part of your reaction shame I checked out was Beelius lady's line of question. Talk about random.

That was a mistake. That was a major mistake having her asked questions, especially at the time that they did. That's why I asked Steph and Mike if they didn't even know kind of really what it was. I think Steph kind of knew, but didn't, but didn't, it wasn't covered by the mainstream media. That everyone says that this hearing was for the casual person. Well, I just asked two casual people and they barely even knew that it was happening. And these are two people who follow the news. So it, it was, to me, it was a, it was a big bust.

Christopher Brickner with Lucasfilm planning on Ray being in so many projects, how big. bad would it be for Lucasfilm with the first Ray movie was bad and flopped very bad very bad yeah good yeah that i mean that would be their next movie has to be good it really that and not just box off is good it has to be good where people believe in the franchise again but you know what you know what the other thing is that we didn't cover is the first movie that comes out is the mandolorean and grogo if that movie let's say that movie is awesome let's say that movie is awesome let's say that that that is the best movie that we have seen in the theater some people some the old school fans think it's the best thing since empire the new school fans think it's the best thing since revenge of the Sith

and it's like this great movie and then they have this ray thing planned out that's a problem because everyone's going to go do more of those movies right they let favro do it and yeah no favro's look at his chops right now he's favro's going to throw the fastball like he did with iron man he's going to throw the fastball um and he's had enough time to work on it that i i i i I think the man, Linole and Grogu is going to perform. And I think it's going to perform for fans. And I think it's going to perform for audiences. John Fabro is a very good filmmaker.

Yes, he is. And he's a good storyteller. I like that. And then I can tell you right now, foresee all this. I have foreseen it. You're going to have John Fabro being called for by the fans to run all of Lucasfilm after his movie hits. And it's not the right choice, but everybody's going to be saying that. Yeah.

Yeah. do it um all right so next one here we got 60 so far you only got about 23 catch roca can you do it okay possible very possible DUI champ hey team i recently heard that mike was a star trek fan what's mike's opinion on new star trek and more importantly strained star trek strange new worlds um i i'm a fan i'm not a hardcore fan um uh they're in a tough spot because they can can't get it going. They had those three movies that were, you know, progressively less and less. I think they dropped the ball. I think Abrams Star Trek 2009 nailed it and revitalized the franchise and it was all firing in all cylinders. I think the movies are a little bit of limbo, but TV's clicking along. Well, I love Strange New Worlds.

That first season, I'm not caught up on the second season. I love it. And I think I was talking to someone about this the other day. I think his name's Ethan Peck is Spock. He is my favorite iteration of the character so far. Oh, okay. More than Nimoy or Quinto. I think he's awesome as Spock. I'm working on trying to get Quinto for an interview.

K.P. Kev, the poet. Is this maybe about merch? Does George Lucas still get the merch money for his creations so they're focusing on it, right? Lucas doesn't get anything anymore. Lucas sold the company. Lucas sold it. I don't know what part of maybe he has a deal where he gets something. I doubt it, or is it just ego doubling down?

I think it's a mixture. I mean, it's always about merch. I mean, they always hope that no matter what they do, they hope that there can be merch inside of it that it's going to be great. And in whatever movie you're going to have, in a special big trilogy movie, you want to have the Ray shirts. My kids still have Ray shirts that they wear, you know?

So, yeah, I don't think that was the driving thing behind it. It's about making money, for sure. Yeah. Okay. So the next one here is from Shay, Shay Markell. My boy, Mike is going through it with the pups. Yeah, they were, they were, they were going nuts before. They've been quiet, quiet so far. Because they're in the crate. Oh, there you go. Shea Markell, got to say, I'm glad Mike's on today. Where you been, buddy? Where have I been? Work. Yeah, but I feel like, yeah, because we were doing Halloween at Universal Studios. It's Halloween Horn Night. So my schedule kind of shifted. And I was doing the Purge show. So my day work got shifted as well to like Thursdays. And yeah, I usually had like Mondays and Tuesdays off.

So my schedule was not the best for it, that end of October, Gallup, busy. Do I champ, did anyone see Bill Burr's opening monologue on SNL? Yeah, hold on. Can I talk about this? No, can I finish the question? And then you can answer it. Opening monologue on SNL last week. He's one of my favorite comics today, but I think he bombed.

Yes or no? Oh, what do you think, Mike? Okay, so Shannon and I were sitting around. It must have been either late, late Saturday or early Saturday or Sunday. And people on Twitter like, oh, Bill Burr, how dare he, the things he said. And we were both like, oh, boy, here we go. We watched it, laughed the whole thing. And then looked at each other and go, that's what people are upset about.

Like, he went after Kamala. He went after Trump. He went after it. Like, it's who Bill Burr is. Like, I was expecting after hearing this kind of backlash for him. I was like, oh, this is going to be bad. And it was funny. Yeah, Bill Burb.

He gave both sides, like both barrels. It was like, I think that's the problem we're looking at now and kind of seeing the way things have gone in the past couple weeks here. We're too sensitive. Everyone is too sensitive about everything. And I think middle America is just sick of it. We're just sick of everyone be offended by every little thing. And Bill Burr is who he is. Yeah.

I mean, dude, he gets, he, Bill Burr gets upset if he doesn't see Twitter upset about his sense. Yeah, I thought it was a great set. I loved it. I like to tell you. I feel like it's, I know that the middle has, America has taken the narrative that the coasts are very soft and sensitive. And I'm not saying that's wrong, but I think they're equally soft and sensitive. I think the entire country is soft and sensitive. And everyone is. Yeah, in different ways, completely. Like everyone is sensitive over their one voter issue. And that was very clear. So I mean, it's like they've ran with that and i feel like it's very good marketing but i agree with you mike like i think bill burr's going to be bill burr and i think a lot of people don't understand him and people were probably expecting a dave chappelle post um election s andl monologue and he's just not the same comic as dave chappelle and i do think that often with comics including dave chappelle people miss the mark like he equally he goes out to everybody yeah and he i don't think that he was saying that he clearly doesn't like Trump either like it was I think the Asian joke

felt really I think that was the one that people yeah that one that I think once he said that they he lost the crowd yeah the crowd did go quiet on him when he said yeah yeah and it was like yeah he's like and what did it say he's like didn't they say that oh they say that that's where you get it it's like yeah yeah but yeah my my 12 year old was watching that with us and she went ooh I don't know about that funny but I loved it I thought the set was good but that that joke didn't hit go pie congratulations Christian I saw a headline from NPR covering the UAP hearing yesterday I mean look a headline that that happens I mean there are headlines from newspapers all the time

it's the question it should be it should have been a lead story um from every news outlet and it wasn't and there's no way that people like Mike and Steph and other people in this chat are ever going to hear about it unless that that happens unless they right you know just hearing me talk all the time. Shut up, idiot. Arndham, when talking about regime change at Lucasfilm, everyone only mentions Kathleen Kennedy, but should anyone else leave with her as well?

But that's what I'm saying, Arndon. Yes, I do. I think all the high-level executives over at Lucasfilm need to go. In the TV and film. Not from the side of the, anybody working on video games and books and comics and all that stuff.

I think they're doing a fine job. It's those are those are fun stories and those are good stories. I haven't read the books in a while, but from what I hear they're still do they're still delivering. But the film and TV, it's it's more about decision making. The decision making has been terrible. GoPie, Sam New Hardin. Did you see Finn Wolfhardt as remaking idle hands? I saw that because Devon Sawa actually posted it out.

The original came out when I was in college and I'm getting ready to crumble to dust and blow away. Yeah. Did you guys see that? No. Yeah. saw the post about it. I didn't, I wasn't a fan of the original movie, so I just kind of moved on from it. Okay, fair enough. Shea Markell, with the amount of lawn care and Mike's background on these episodes, I bet his neighbor has the best yard in the block. No, here's the thing. I live on a busy

street. Yeah. But we, they're all like little fourplex kind of townhome apartment complexes. So the lawn is about 50 feet by five feet in front of everyone's house. We got this little Patrick grass this asshole next door this lawn service he must charge by the hour and he's got a racket going on because he's he's still blowing that damn thing we've been on for what an hour 45 minutes still doing he's still out there he's got a racket going on he's got a friggin racket going on because the landlord they're not around they don't know how long he's here for he's just like i was there for you know three hours paid by the hour you want you want mike to come alive in an episode ask him about the gardener jacob thompson they hit lightning in a bottle with rogue one

and Mando season one and two hoping they can do it again my son who's 15 has checked out of star wars completely and it sucks following you since gladysed days love your content thank you jacob uh yeah my same of my daughter my daughter was uh watched it with me for a little bit when she was younger and then she bailed on it but like it's not it's harder and it's hard enough to get kids of that age to watch anything outside of their ticot and instagram and everything too so you really got to lock them in with your shows and your tv and star wars is not hitting the younger generation right now at all. Right.

Arnhem. Mike's facial expression is the same one that Star Wars fans have every time we see more Star Wars news. Yep, it's true. And then Shea follows it up. Honestly, I've been bored with Star Wars for 82% of my life. It's not until I talk to Star Wars fans that I can see how amazing IP actually is. There's a lot there. There's a lot there that could really be special.

And it's just, I think that's why people get so bummed about it because it really could be good. show gun order Lucasfilm is aware of the EU they could Lucasfilm is aware of the EU they could take ideas from but they want to make their original content to make Star Wars great with but it's hard yeah I think that's stupid I think they just adapt it's not you look at you look at the books especially with TV shows you can adapt some of your books even the the old the old EU ones and adapt them into series rewrite them and the people who read the books they're not going to this is such a small audience compared to the wider audience i'm going to say something

go ahead maybe because people you don't need to hear this like there's the books are you know people love the books people love the common books but you ask people what what's the greatest iteration of batman of all time and they will you'll get a good people to say the animated series 92 that thing is the gold standard of batman they will never hire bruce tim to write a batman right There is a discourse or disconnect between the studio executives, run the movies that are like, no, that's just kids cartoons. Wow, I got to push back. Those are just books.

I got to push back. Why didn't they not hire James Lucino or someone to write a Star Wars movie? I'm with you on the Star Wars side of it. But what's his name? Is it Tom King? No, but that's different now. Why is that different? Because things have changed at D.C.

Okay. Well, yes. Right, right. Okay, right. So you got a guy in there. But hold on. Hold on. Okay.

All right. James Gunn is not a studio exec. He is a creative that came in and goes, I love these comments. We're finally going to do this. He's a studio exec now. But yes, but that, but yeah. But we're making, but we're ultimately saying the same thing.

You need to get a studio exec that thinks like that in order to. Star Wars people don't have that. They do not have that. They have the traditional studio exec, crunch the numbers, money ball. How do we make a head? This guy's movie was great. Had nothing to do a Star Wars, but this was the big. He's an Oscar winner screenwriter.

So he'll do Star Wars great. The last movie made a billion dollars. Maybe he made us a billion dollars. Yeah. So it's just old school. I was the incorrect. with James Gunn you're right Tom King yeah Armada I want to Bill Burr standalone Star Wars show I would watch I would watch one episode I was standing along with him uh I don't think Bill

Burr would want a full series of that I LL magic no one wants full control of any project he directs and Disney ain't having that yeah I mean you know no one's earned the right to get that yeah but you know you're not going to give no no one's not going to be a you know do you're doing star wars no um let's see i'm gonna keep uh keep looking here we got some more um while we do step what's going on from the um from the world girls is that was that last night a new episode yeah last night 6 p m pt wednesdays and um we're going to do a lot of restructuring for the new year so stay tuned for that anything you can tease um no not yet all right uh okay all right so mike what you got going on you got anything going on right now oh you want tonight no not tonight in my life in your life

do you want to tell people about are you did you do you sign up to the blue sky like everybody else what's blue sky oh that the new social media thing well it apparently came out like last year but then everybody I'll tell you this oh here we go this here we go and parked up again so the other day we're not going to get into it I tweeted out something you yeah it was just kind of I thought was funny and like what when something goes viral what does it mean to go viral like how Does they have to have a certain amount of likes or views? I guess it's, yeah, I mean, it brings in people that aren't following you. Okay.

So I had, I think I had something like viral, like three million views right now. Oh, yeah. Okay. $250,000 likes. That's viral. I woke up to like 300 new followers and like every day it's growing. Okay. So I was going to get off Twitter after last week.

I was like, I'm done. I'm out. I can't do this anymore for my own sanity. But now I'm like, no, there's good people out there still. And to me, Twitter is the most engaging when it comes to an audience. Like you can engage the best. with people, good or bad. So I still love it.

So yeah, I don't know. I do think that Elon Musk is ruined the magic Twitter in a lot of ways. And I see like a lot more hate on it than I ever saw before because his rules of engagement are just different. And so that's sad. But Mike Joyce actually made a good point in The World Girls last night where he was like,

I feel torn because it feels like if we, all go to blue sky than more just everyone's in their own echo chamber depending where they're politically aligned right now and that can be dangerous because you're not seeing the other people's thoughts and sides so i'm i'm torn on it like i don't want to engage with a person and a company that i feel like is completely just not aligned with my values or ethics but i also don't want to just keep getting further and further from my fellow countrymen where i'm like i don't even know who you guys are right i understand um that's why i just post and run yeah so i just post links yeah i don't engage shay markell i'm a star wars casual i don't hate on star wars but unfortunately the fans talking about

the lore leaves a better impression for me than the actual projects yeah because it's like because the fans kind of hope for that potential of what could be you know so but i just i've i've come to a place now with Star Wars that I'm just, I'm just not expecting anything from it anymore. Like I just, I expected, yeah, I mean, I guess I expect it to be bad now. And when it's good, I'm happy. Um, Captain Paineous is here, guys. Yes. Do you think Captain Pianus?

Yeah. Do you think that Lucas film will ever adapt Knights of Republic? No. And I used to think that they would, but from birdies that I hear, Flonni's not a fan of it. So it ain't gonna happen. Uh, Armada. It would be so cool. So, well, yeah, but I don't want them.

I don't want this regime to do it. Yeah. I don't want them to do it. I thought the accolite was going to be in that vein. Yeah, me too. Armada, a James Gunn Star Wars movie would bring the boom. I mean, yeah, but he's tied up forever. So yeah, he's not going to do it. You know, he's a big Knights of Republic fan, by the way. He would have probably been the first thing that he did.

Yeah. Now seeing what he's doing with DC now, I wish like, damn it, I wish they would have gotten him. There are people like, oh, I said that once the Knights of Republic. James Gun, Knights are Republic. you crazy, just got dick jokes the whole time. It's like, he can't, he's not, I think the guy knows how to do it outside of just 10. Right, right, right.

I like how you said that, like John Chavolta, stuff. Right, right, right, right. Artem Shackaraman. Kathleen Kennedy is the one using the lawnmower, and she's pissing off Mike's dogs to prevent him for talking on this show. That's probably true.

I've been hilarious if you look out the window, and she's actually, she might be soon, who knows. Day Napper, Disney. nuts nice like that let's see there is some more here we're at 69 dude nice Luke sky wanker oh yeah this is I have a feeling that skeleton crew and and or seasons two are going to be oh and or season two are going to be like a left jab and a right hook combo I'm optimistic yes Mikey Christmas exclamation point yeah I mean look I hope I hope I like John Watts I like

John wants a lot. I like him a lot. And I hope that this is a really good show. The only thing that I hope I'm surprised about is that I think that it looks like a fun adventure film. I'm not worried about that. I'm like I want to feel like you know what? This does feel like it takes place in all the other Star Wars shows that I that I've seen. All the Star Wars movies. It's not just the original trilogy. It's got to feel like all of Star Wars like because it's like people, what do you want to feel like Star Wars for? I don't know because it's a Star Wars show. Yeah. Can I say something? You know what I am like a little bit. concerned of over the show and I'm not going to be hyper critical about it, but something I don't think I'm I'm trying. I'm finally understanding I don't think I like the pirates in Star Wars. Yeah. Okay. Even in the animated? Uh, the animated is better. I, I feel like I can tell they're in makeup. And then it just completely takes me out where I feel like I'm, I'm visiting, um, Galaxy's Edge in at Disneyland.

Yeah. Yeah. Good point, stuff. Yeah, it is a good point. I mean, and I guess that's where the lower budgets kind of go. Like when we saw it in Mandalorian, I felt this, I was like, this just isn't working for me. It's fair. Mike Joyce, Mike, you got to join Blue Sky. Twitter's bad for you.

He says. Artem. Why does Disney still care what George wants and thinks? They bought it. If I buy a car, I don't give a damn what previous owner wants. I don't think that they do. but I think that Faloni was taught by

Lucas and I think that there's a lot there that you should still abide by with the overall essence of what George created he understood he's a great storyteller what I think that Philoni does too much is that he holds like well this is what George wouldn't do and George wouldn't do this and George wouldn't do it like he knows everything and there's a lot that he does

he's very knowledgeable very knowledgeable about a lot of this stuff but I think that he has a lot of that, you know, religion of George, if you will, and doesn't let people touch it. And I think more times than not, he's wrong about certain things. Anyway, Armada, are you all excited for the Cross show? It's out today.

I've heard good things. Michael, that seems like a show you'd be interested in. I have never heard the books, so, and it wasn't really into that. I think it was first Morgan Freeman, and then angeline and julie right yeah but i like is it Aldous Hodge yes I believe I really like him as an actor so if i get a chance i'm a little behind of my tv so okay um Armada step did you listen to the new uh dochi album she got nominated yes nominated for best rap album this year i recommended 100% to anyone that's a fan of hip-hop so you did yeah yes as she should i feel like she has outcast vibes nicky minage vibe like old school Nikki Minaj. Like she is, I think, one of the best right now, most and most underrated.

Okay. Derek Johnson, with a big super chat here. Thank Derek. Throw in some support. I've been crazy busy and I can't hit lots of support, but I hope this helps. Anything you ever do, my friend, you're the, you're the best. Thank you. So wonderful. Al Rensha. I think Star Wars needs to move on from Skywalker Saga entirely and do something else in Next trilogy. Night's O, Knights O Republic. You and us both, pal. Knights of a Republic, or maybe you do some elseward stories. I mean, yes, I agree. But like I said, it's just a, do you trust, if you had, you know, if you had asked someone

to clean something, if you're like, oh, hey, you know what, I need you to clean something. And every time you ask that person to clean something, they broke your lamp, right? Would you keep asking that person to clean around your lamp? Right. So just stop giving Lucasfilm anything because they're going to break your lamp. That's, that's the moral of this. the story. Keep them away from their lamps.

Keep them away from your lamps. Met Bull, my good, Brady James. Would you be more excited for Star Wars if the only live action canon from Disney was Rogue One and or and Mando? They can do that with a pen stroke. Yeah. I mean, that's the other thing, right? Is why not to stay inside of the lanes that are working right now in the, like,

like the way Marvel did. It was Iron Man Captain America, Thor, right? They were playing inside of those one, two, and three, one, two, and three. And now, yeah, they, I think and or we know they, I'm telling you, I'm not making this up when the three of us went and they said in Gilward was like, I want to do three seasons. And then he goes, what's his face? Diego's like, oh, they sign on for two. But again, from what I, from what I would think is that following is like two is good, two's good. Yeah.

Okay. Next one. And this is Shea Markell. there's a scene in civil war that sums up what the MCU is missing it's when bucky and sam are in the car smiling at cap and Sharon's sharing a first kiss moments before they were in a complete desperation yeah that's a great it's a great great scene and this is I mean but the MCU can get that back I think they can get that I think Thunderbolts can bring that back yeah yeah I do too I like the Thunderbolts

trailer a lot better than I like the Captain America trailer I tell you that I was with you on that yeah that Thunderbolt was like yeah we're this is going to going to be a lot of smoke with that movie going on a lot of smoke flip of the coin uh shay markell hey mike are you familiar with eddie remand's new show day of the jackal i'm on episode one and it seems legit i believe that you like spy and action stuff i didn't have i had no idea about it i know day of the jackals that famous book with carlos the jackal well there you go um and there's a movie based on it but i had no clue there's a tv show on it at all it just goes to show you have how much is out there and yeah yeah i'll check it out though thanks for the heads up chris granier

hey mike i don't agree with you a lot but your mood is my mood today i just want to throw hands wait you want to throw hands isn't we're gonna throw down now with you no no like to the world he's he's he's sharing your your dude i got an appointment i got to be it in a little bit and after that i'm going to go to the garage and just work the bag for a good hour smart just get it out of there it's one of those days today fx star lord here's a mad idea Ray versus everyone. She kills Luke. I mean, turning her bad. I think you missed the missed the bone on that already. No, please

don't. Please. You just just introduced a real evil villain. Like, get just an evil villain. Yeah, who's not going to turn good. No, just an evil villain that we hate. Yes. Brogu. Guys, I love the stream and I love the headphone stuff. Thank you. Next one. And this one comes in from Armada. Jeff Snyder as the new Lucas film CEO. Oh, good Lord. It just be David Fincher would direct

everything. Yeah. Yeah. And he tried to get Tarantino for a movie too, I'm sure. And what's wrong with that? That's true. Who's who's and have Booker T announce them. And now your new CEO, Jeff Schneider. Armada. Denzel Washington. Yeah. Wasn't that was it wasn't that from Collider Live? I think it was. I don't remember. Blocked all that out. um let's see next one is jim one despite the star wars chaos i admire daisy for staying professional and gracious same of course same she is she is i think everybody here is clear we'd all like to see her back we all yes i'd like to see her just use the right way right i think she's a great actress i loved ray and i think that she's handled press really well because she really got

She and continues to get shit. Yeah, totally. I admire Daisy for staying professional and gracious. Compare that to what Rachel Ziegler's new outburst. Did she have another outbursts, Rachel Ziegler? I didn't. Which could doom Snow White. Is that the same one you're talking about from like last year?

No, she did see. I saw something recently. Excuse me, Twitter this morning. Oh no. What's she do now? It's political. Yeah. This is what I'm talking about.

You got a movie coming out. Stop tweeting until your movie's, out or you're not working. Like what in the world? Uh, the bend do. Let's see we see if you can find anything. Yeah, I'm looking. Yeah, the bend do. Who would you guys see as Lucasfilm president? And what that person should do first to set it on the right track. Also, should they explore TH1-1138 world. I don't think they should explore that world. I think that should make original Lucasfilm movies. I think that's something they should do. Maybe you did science fiction or fantasy or something along those lines. She'll do original movies for sure. Uh, as far as a president, I want

see someone I don't know. I want to hear about their resume when they announce them in the trades. This is someone who's anywhere between 35 to like 55 years old and you're like this person has done this, this, this, this, and this. And they're worked on these movies as a producer and this and now they're coming on this big product. What happened to

Fikey jumped over to Marvel? I don't want to know who the person is. I want to learn about them through their accomplishments. Oh, good news. Captain Penis is back. Oh, nice. Yes. Lucasfilm is Lionsgate with more money. Brutal. But at least Lionsgate takes swings at their at bats.

Yeah, and they also put out movies. Lionsgate. Lucasfilm takes every pitch and then strikes out looking. 100% Captain Penis. Thank you so much. Who would have thought that the best comment of the day comes from Captain Penes? Captain Penes.

Shea Markell. I think the Rock is facing increasing rejection due to the rise of anti-establishment sentiment. Rock used to feel endearing and authentic. Now he feels like ego and big business to a lot of fans. I think that's a fair. I think that's a fair assessment. I don't know if that's a fair assessment because look, who just won the presidency?

I feel like a lot of people like that. Different, different from where he is, look, Rock was always big and bold and brash. Never was that. But it was like at what point do you switch over from, you know, being the people's champion to, you know, the corporate champion. to, you know, the corporate champion, if you will. Right. Because he still pulls audiences when it comes to wrestling. Make no mistakes about it.

I'm very curious to see what he does. He, look, I didn't mind him in that movie last night, Red One, but he's just doing the same thing he does in every movie. He's the Rock in this. Like, you always say The Rock and this. You never remember his characters. You always remember The Rock. I'm hoping that the Smashing Machine is significantly different.

Okay. I know we lose Mike in nine minutes, but we'll do what we can here. Greg, Chris Grineer. one at best will be this generation's jingle all the way. It's not jingle all the way. I love jingle all the way. It's got a very different tone. Got a very different tone.

I will tell you that I liked whoever the crampus was. The guy who played crampus was pretty good. Shea Markell, Rock's movies are suffering from a lack of subtlety. Maybe. Maybe. Jim. Was the Rock paid more up front to

wave residuals? I don't know. I don't know about that. I think that's just kind of what he demands now, but I think that's going to stop, though. I think that's going to stop. The Big Balls wasn't taken off the rotation because of me. It's because I woke up when I came in the studio one day, my old roadcaster, my new roadcaster was busted. I have it. I still have it on the Amazon list.

Shea Markell. Steph, we're waiting on Fast 9 now. Last one was fun. Oh, yeah, I know. I'm excited. Watching the Fast franchise, I, it's funny talking about Rock. now because I'm late to the game he is one of my favorite parts of fast like he is so fun to watch are you watching just the fast movies or you watched did you watch hobbs and shaw

i watched hobbs and shaw i was obsessed it's good it's fun it's so fun you're gonna be a little you know what i made one martinez hey all mike congrats on the purge dangerous waters i watched through the show multiple times and it was a blast how long you've been doing stunt work man Thanks and stay safe. Oh, thank you, man. I got involved in stunts about 22 years ago in Florida. And I work extensively in Florida doing a lot of stunt work. But I just always did it just to make me a more proficient actor to have the kind of skills that the roles that I go for to be for.

So I don't do it as much, especially out here. I'd focus more on the acting stuff. But thank you. I appreciate you. I'm glad you love the show. It's one of the most fun shows I've had doing in a real long time. So thank you for seeing that. All right.

Next one. And this is Chris Graneer. Saying Star Wars is a small sandbox is like saying MCU is small. Kathleen Kennedy needs to use the books to their advantage. Stupid not to. Yeah. Really stupid not to. No, it's not a small Sam.

It's a small sandbox in the sense that it's the Skywalker franchise. That's all they do. You know, the MCU's got vastly different. stuff all over the place where Star Wars it's very it's I say that small because it's easy to go all right what's what's the rules on a lightsaber you don't have this massive playground where you know it's very small very contained in the sense that hey these are the rules for lightsabers and then everyone would have them and you wouldn't mess with it right it's it's manageable that's what I meant by the small sandbox um Mike comment about question for you is watchman technically

DC? It is. It is, right? Yeah. Okay. Liam O'Toole. I don't understand how they think Star Wars TV is okay and has more freedom. 50-50 at best. The lack of awareness is a disaster. Yes, it is. You said you might as well be on this panel. And then Steph, you guys have tied Roka one more and you beat him. Nice. Okay. Jedi Master for Life. Sad to see Star Wars where it's at now, but felt the same after the Snyderverse, but after Guns, DC, you plans, there's hope again. What would need to happen to give all of the fandom some hope? New leadership. I'm just going to keep saying it over and over again.

New leadership. Anybody else? They're at the point they need to do what DC did with Gunn. Yeah, new leadership. Yeah. GoPy. On hot takes, Mike, can you expand on Dalton being your favorite bond? I've never heard that before.

Most people usually say Connery or Craig for the kids. Yeah, I think he was the closest to Fleming's. books I think he was dangerous he had that kind of he had like an air of violence about him everything he did connery i know people love him because he's you know you have to respect because he's the first um but he never felt that that violent he could switch in a second and slit your throat whereas dalton just there's just something about him but he's charming too yeah i love i love Dalton. Shea Markell. Abin the Rass says react to secret level trailer. What's that? I know. I heard that it's like an analogy about video game movies. Oh, okay. It's a video game

something where like every and now every little segment is a different video game movie that they're trying to do. I just read something. I didn't see anything though. Yeah. Uh, go pie. If it's in there, I did pick up Mike's bond. If it's in there, I did pick up Mike's bond book a week ago. but I haven't had time to read it. Oh, if you talked about, if you talked about Dalton in there, about why he's your favorite? Yeah, I do, I do.

There's a couple chapters in there. I think I go into it heavily. Enjoy, thank you. Thank you for that. Jedi Master for Life. Christian, what comes first? The official announcement that aliens are real and disclosure, or official announcement that Disney will sell Star Wars to Apple.

I'm not even kidding when I say this, the aliens first. Not even kidding. Disney's not selling Star Wars. No. And apparently, apparently the Apple deal, the Apple deal was close. but it was they didn't want the theme parks. Apparently it was really close.

Apparently it was very, very close. I'm so bummed. I hope that's what Byger does before he leaves. He just says, you know what? Screw this. You guys handle Kathleen Kennedy. Sell it. Here it is.

Scott Cross met Andy Circus last weekend. It was awesome. He's definitely one of the nicest people ever. I've met Andy a few different times. I get to hang out with them a couple of times. My friend is his manager, and I was able to hang out with him a few different times, and he's just such a sweetheart of a human being.

Favorite stories of him or other positive times, meeting celebs. Well, because I was at my friend's place for his birthday and Andy was there with his family, I got to hang out with him there. But then I saw, I mean, well, my friend again brought me over to him when I was when he was at, it was the last shed I premiered and I talked to him for a bit there and his wife was just the coolest. But I saw Andy at the grove when I was walking and I said it reminded him that we met at my friend's place and he's like he knew right away because we'd talk for a bit. And we just sat there talking to the grove for I think like 15 minutes. And he's just he's just awesome. He's just awesome. He's just awesome. He's a really like family guy very creative super talented. I love Andy and he's one of my favorite actors of all time. Yeah, he's awesome. Yeah. Any favorite positive meetings on celebs guys if so, and you've been like wow, that person was really either cooler than I thought or.

I liked our John Watts. That was cool after it's Star Wars celebration. Yeah, that was cool. Yeah. Stephanie got one or no. No, I thought I, Sylvester Stallone was not. I was very brief but he was cool. Yeah, like you're on the show you do.

Yeah, exactly. We give that a world a girl, huh? Lord. Lords and Hammers. Mike, have you read the James Bond comics on Dynamite Entertainment? Any standout recommendations, if so? I did. I've fallen off the past couple of years, but I think it's called Varger and Edolian.

Those are the two kind of, um, storylines read those uh the dart double oh five hey step i've got a flat butt for a guy any tips well good thing it doesn't really matter as much but i i would just say you just squat you just got a squat and get your protein in and that's that's that's it mike loves that question i love it yeah it's nowhere hey step i got a flat ass well as the expert as the expert as the expert you came to the right place right day napper you three are making a movie together i'm gonna let staff answer this one okay what would the what would all three of our roles be in the production can't be actor okay all three of us are making a movie what are our roles i would say that

christian would be the director mike would be he's can't be the actor first ad first ad yeah first ad then yeah well not mine and then i would be the personality higher and make everyone's day better see i would go the other way i would i know what i'm gonna be go ahead billy i'm gonna be the intimacy coordinator yeah well i would say if it was me i would say i would take the executive producer role i would give step the director role in the mic's okay okay make shit go down um are you three we did that one wickick What up, Wicked Art. Did you guys watch Arcane Season 2 yet? I love it. No, I've been waiting into reactions to it. I have no, have you started. Steph, do you love it? Of course.

Like this one, we were so pissed because usually Netflix releases their shows on like Wednesday. And then they did it Saturday and we were just like waiting, waiting, waiting. This, it is one of my favorite shows of all time. I can't wait to watch it. Kai Perderson. Can you fire, can you fire Kathleen and execs in your your Arnold voice short. Come in here. I get to tell you something. All of you sit down.

You, you're in the pantsuit. Stand up, I tell you this. Yeah, I don't want you, Dian, anymore. And I need you to listen to me. What you're doing is not good. You're putting out $200 million there, $300 million over there. These witches, there's twins.

There's nothing. Nothing. No movie in years. Yeah, it's not fantastic. No one is you're fired. Goodbye. It's not fantastic. It's not fantastic.

The Kelly Kid. What are Mike and Steph's favorite movies this year? Dune 2 Furiosa. Nice. Inside Out 2. Yeah. Fall guy. Okay, good one.

No style Dutch. If not Favro, who should take over Lucasfilm? Got a pick. Like I said, it's an executive. We don't know their name. I want to get a really good creative person. who was an executive the way or slash producer the way that Feige was. You didn't know Kevin Feige's name before 2009 or 2008.

You didn't know who he was. And they need that person. Elusive Rock. Onion CEO statement about Info Wars is a must read. Yeah, that's pretty funny. Okay, I didn't see it. Pete Parker. Mike has me dying today with the lawnmower man.

Shea Markell. I think an Edgar Wright directed Star Wars would be great. Well, the problem with that is it's the same thing. Edgar Wright is going to make his kind of movie and he's not going to listen to anybody. So you need somebody who's going to be able to structure together and not just be a company man, but still play ball. Stephen, does Kennedy have any dirt on the high executives at Disney or something? How has she not been fired? It is one of the great mysteries of life right now.

Mike, you just take off and you got to leave him. I'll get going now. I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. Bye. All right. Sorry about that. It's all right.

You've got an appointment. It's all right. I guess. Um, so me and step. Um, okay. Hey, I've been watching since I was 16. I'm 26 now. Oh, man. Uh, thank you all for years of entertainment and the hours of bonding with my brothers over your content. That's so nice. Thank you. That's awesome. Great comment. That was. Thank you, my friend. Um, Ed Haskell. Hey, guys. Tomorrow, Cobra Kai's on Netflix. That's right. Twisters on peacock. Alien Romulus is on Disney Plus and Mike Tyson and Paul Friday night. Make your predictions and how many rounds. I'm going to say, Tyson and two? If it's real, if it's a real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If it's real. But I think if it's a little gas up, then maybe Tyson and five. Oh, well, if it goes past three, Tyson ain't winning.

I don't. Yeah, because it because yeah, he needs a knock out quickly just because of the age difference. Six years old. He's going to eat. So we'll see. I hope what I hope is it's in the first 15 seconds. me too uh jack lewis pheloni is a hack he animated his animated stuff is great when he tries to bring it to live action not so much the fact that he doesn't like and or tells you everything that you need to know about him um yeah some people how do you know that let's just say that it's it's it's it's kind of known um so it yeah i i totally agree i i distinct he hasn't transferred over joey pedrus let's get some whistleblower protections for people coming from lucas film It's 100%. Bradley Pooper's in the house.

Lucas film LTD acts like a drunk uncle. 100%. It's like the drunk uncle for the Keenan plays on, not drunk uncle, but Willie on Saturday Night Live. Oh, yeah, yeah. Mike Joyce. Tom Cruise wants Glenn Powell to replace him on Mission Impossible. Hmm, it's interesting.

I could see it. Derek Johnson. Have you seen the trailer Pamela Anderson is in The Last Showgirl? It looks amazing. Jamie Lee Curtis is also in it. I saw that it was released. I didn't see that it, that it, I haven't seen the actual trailer though,

but I heard about it. Are you here by? Jedi Master for Life. I agree with Steph. Acklite's characters looked like they were from a, from a, from a comic con, not from a way down the street from a comic con, or not that far away from a street from a Comic Con.

Yeah, it looked, it, it looked like costumes. Jim one. Zegler hoped 70 million who voted for Trump never find peace. Oh, is that, is that what she said? She's, yeah. I just said that. And I just don't understand what, like, you have a movie coming out. You're allowed to have your opinions.

I understand that. But we just show, you, this is what I'm talking about when it comes to, if she's making a $30 million movie that she wants a certain audience to come see, say whatever you want, tweet whatever you want. But if I'm Disney, I'm going, don't tweet anything right now. When the movie comes out and it's done, tweet whatever you want to tweet, we're promoting a movie here. And we want these people to see the movie.

You want them to see the movie. And it's like, yeah, like, and it sucks to say like, oh, well, she shouldn't be given her opinion. She has a responsibility to promote the movie also and to get people in the theater. She does. And so I think that it's, I think it's a mistake for her to do to do at this moment. Tweet whatever the fuck you want to tweet afterwards. But when it, when the movie's out. Yeah, I think that it's completely, I can completely empathize with where she's coming from.

Yeah. And it's like so everybody feels emotional in some capacity. about the election. And I've had to tell myself, like, pause for a second and ask myself, is this helpful? Right. And I think that, um, especially when you have a huge movie and a huge career, you just have to be careful about what you're saying. And also the, that those types of things that go on in my mind too when I'm like, aren't helping us. Right. So I don't know. That's the thing is you're, you're like in an echo chamber. because who are you trying to reach by doing that like who are you reaching and it's like you're right

so i tell mike and roke all the time on twitter like who who are you reaching when you're when you're doing that you're just screaming to the same people who are going to support you in the first place i don't understand it um no style there is it no style somebody uh lost it no style dutch could philoney be more of the problem than we think yes 100% yeah 100% um Haskell 420. If it was a, it is a trip how Pat McAfee shouted out and show the Insnighters post on his story on Tom Cruise wanting Glenn Powell to take over on. Oh, I didn't see. That's cool.

I saw that. It was fun. Oh, can you link me that, Haskell? Send it to me in DM. I want to see that. Sun Tzu. Hey, everyone. K.H.

Mike, 30 seconds of Arnold and Michael Kane. Aw. Just lost Mike. I'm sorry. Out of the three directions to Last Jedi picking up with somehow Palpatine return. Well, you know, Sunzu, why don't you save that one? We'll save that one. I'll want to screenshot this.

So for next week when Mike's on, we'll pick this up. I'm going to screenshot it so that way we can do that. Put it right here. And I'll save that for next week when Mike's back. He had to leave his appointment. Shoot, sorry about that, Sun Tzu. That was a good one. Pete Parker.

I want Big Balls back, but I also want a PS5 pro. I understand. Yeah. I get that. I get it. Look, Big Balls is, he's in the Amazon list. He's in the Amazon list. But that could be weeks.

It could be months. It could be years. Armada. I hope you get Frank Rillo on for an interview soon. I'm actually working on it. I'm actually working on. Did I tell you this? That'd be awesome.

Well, you know, it's hilarious. I was telling my friend. We just reacted to Warrior. My friend Sam, who had never seen it, right? She loved it. And then we kept talking about Warrior again. And I said, I remember I interviewed Frank Rillo at Clutter Live.

I said, I wish I would have talked to him about Warrior. There was one regret that I had. And I went back and I did. I did. I did talk to about Warrior. I saw, there's a clip of me talking to him about Warriors. Like, oh, okay.

Shea Markell. don't let this Star Wars news distract you from the fact that that Amon is the one true king poor aim he loves Amon you love you you hate you hate Amon don't you where was he from again house to the dragon come on girl oh yeah yeah sorry I like Amon wait no I don't no sorry you know I'm not I didn't watch season two oh you listen yeah remember the time I met you and you like your like hey you want me in the movie rocky yeah okay told the king yeah totally amon's one of the sons of the oh god i hate this guy i hate this guy yeah yeah mumrah vic saw cobs injury he should have jabbed the wound oh yeah i'm not

gonna i don't want to get too much into the penguin stuff but yes the penguin was great all right step that was the last one and unless you know let's i'm gonna give one more uh sign off but you could potentially hit 90 but you stopped at 89 winston and kroyd will have to have to have to be 89 tomorrow okay once again in the lead you have become you have become a dominant force in this game you nice you know I'm not going to lie to you when we first started doing this I always thought well Steph was and she'll do all right and you're like you're like the champ you're like the overwhelming I love it um so once again step hitting 89 can Winston and Coy beat her tomorrow we will see but Steph overtakes John Roka beating with 80 up I'm just kidding 90

You just hit 90. Captain Penis, if you're concerned about our country, go out and support your local community charities. Make your community better with positive action. Thank you, Captain Penis. Again, Captain Penis saying wonderful things today. Totally. Yes. Who would have thought?

Captain Penis taking us out with a wonderful word. Thank you to Captain Penis. Thank you to Steph. Thank you to Mike. And thank you to nerds engage who gets Steph up to 91. I'm just kidding. Huskell for life gets you to 92. too. So have someone react to Dune or the substance. I'm going to react to to Dune,

the new series. I'll be, I'll be doing that. Oh, that'll be awesome. For sure. So, um, all righty then. Thank you. Steph, go watch closer. I'm very curious to hear what you think. Oh, did you watch Battlestar the pilot? I'm halfway through it. And I am. I really like it. I thought so. Yes. It's a great. The pilot's a great pilot. Great pilot. And how creepy with the baby part, right? Did you get the baby part? I don't know if I'm there yet. Yeah. Sweet to get that baby part. Okay. All right. And now we get, oh, Wicked Art. Did I get a chance to read episode seven of capes? Not yet. Not issue seven of capes. Not yet. I have it. I have it in my inbox ready to go. Don't worry. I will definitely get to it. This has been an insane. I'm managing

four channels right now. It's nuts. All right. Speaking of which, I get Matt Sarah in here soon. We're going to do. We're doing a show with him and Dean Thomas. Thank you guys. it. Well, oh my God, we keep getting more questions. Nice. 94. Jay, J. Bach, you guys go into Star Wars Celebration in Japan. I'm trying to, honestly. And yeah, I'm trying to because my family has just been really, this is at the top of our list of things to do. And we're just waiting for the right time, but that might be the right time because of my parents' busy schedule.

So hopefully that'd be fun. Yeah. I'm not going to be going to this one, but I don't know if they do it. We'll probably wind up doing to Chicago again. I'd like to probably go to Chicago. I really enjoyed my time in Chicago. I've never spent time in Chicago, so that would be really fun for me. Celebration was really fun there, really fun.

All right, thank you guys. Appreciate it. Harry cough drop. I know. I got to send them some. I hope he's okay. All right. Thank you guys.

Appreciate it. Thanks to Steph. Thanks to all you guys. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. That's where you can find us. Check us out, check out the Clips channel.

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You have a few on interview with him. So thank you, everybody. We'll see you guys on the flip side. Peace out. Go get those sponsors today, will you? All right. Bye. Bye.