The Kristian Harloff Show - CIVIL WAR dethrones Kong and Godzilla at the box office! Biggest A24 opening yet.

Episode Date: April 15, 2024

Civil War becomes the highest grossing opening weekend for an A24 film and the reviews have been split from audiences! Spider-Man 4 gets a shoot date? Geena Davis talks about not returning to Beetlejuice 2. Falllout thoughts and more on this live episode with Kristian and Rocha. #civilwar #movie #controversy #boxoffice #godzilla #spiderman #marvel

How's it going, everybody? Happy Monday. Welcome back to the live episode of The Big Thing with myself and John Roker. And there's a lot to talk about me. And Civil War, it is the highest grossing weekend for an A24 movie. And it The Thrones, Kong and Godzilla. And yeah, as you would think with a movie like this, dividing audiences. I've never seen such a divided audience in my comment section about this movie. Either love this movie, hate this movie, think it has an agenda. I think it has. The problem is it has no agenda. So we'll discuss. Beatles, too. I'm excited for that movie. Well, one of the things I thought was going to happen was that Gina Davis was going to have a cameo.

Not the case. She says, she's not in it. And then she gives her a reason as far as why she's not in it. Fallout. I watched episode one. I got thoughts. Thoughts on Fallout. Talk about that. I don't know if John's watched you ever, we'll discuss. If the trailer for that movie, this is this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, the most anticipated movie for my six and a half year old she cannot wait to see this movie and

the newest trailer just came out the final trailer just came out so we'll see rebecca ferguson turned some heads and she made her comments about her co-star who was a turd on wheels and she clarifies that and the spider-man four looks like we might have a shoot date for that maybe maybe not so that more i'm sure we'll talk a little bit about some of the stuff going on with wwe and uh whether it's the the the last raw smackdown, all that, the fallout from WrestleMania, we'll discuss it,

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And so you guys can put those in there now. I saw people already throwing them in there. You can do that. And then what we'll do is we'll read them all off until we get off the air. So there you go. So thanks for joining us here today. once again, it's me, it's John Roker.

It's the big thing. Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are fine. Let's do it. How's it going, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing show, myself and John Roker. What's up, John? I was the weekend. What's up, brother? Yeah, good weekend. Very busy. Lots to do, lots to see. I did see fallout, so we'll have a fun discussion about that. But, yeah, caught up on. How many did you watch? Four. I've watched four episodes. We're trying to knock them out to maybe do something on the geek buddies

later on this week but yeah i'm i saw the controversy i don't remember where it came from but uh about the it was a netflix or somebody somebody talked about this the dumping of everything at once what did you see this yeah one of the writers for one of the show i think scott pilgrim show he chained dan and said that he really hated it because now no one's talking about scott pilgrim came and went whereas x-band 97 is keeping the drama every week uh and so yeah it's some interesting conversation to have for sure if you want to on the show. I'm down. We should absolutely. That's that should be part of the conversation with fallout because I think it was a major major major major major error to dump the show all at once, complete error. I think that the the dump was great when it was just Netflix and that was

the only game in town. It ain't the only game in town anymore. Right. And it's it it it's still it absolutely takes away from the experience. But we'll talk about that a little bit. For sure. Yeah, there's a lot, man. There's a lot going on. And I think I'm even starting with, so did you, do you watch, what do you think about the, this is spoilers for people who watched Raw or didn't watch Raw on SmackDown? But how do you feel about them trying to push solo? Yeah, I almost tweeted this out and I said,

this feels like NWO black and red and NWL black and white. And I don't think it's going to work because as, as cool as solo is, solo ain't at the level of Roman. He ain't at the level of rock. And it would take a long, look, it took Roman, years to get to the level of rock. It was not overnight. And solo is cool, but they've never let him speak on the mic or hardly ever. He just growled.

Right. And then you're bringing in a new guy who they all got to get to know again. I mean, for the first time. So it just doesn't make sense to me. And I think eventually it's going to, it's not going to be as exciting and as thrilling. Plus, you can't escape the fact that the rock's in his 50s, man. And you, how are you, you know, he's not going to do this full time. So you can't really invest as a wrestling.

as strong as you would like. So I get why they're doing it, but I think the bloodline should have just gone away from months. Should have just gone away, let other things take central stage and then bring it back and start the Civil War then. Because now it seems like you're still hanging on, you know? Yeah, but I understand what you're saying,

but I think that you've got to keep them around because it eventually you let them cause havoc as much as you can. And then, yes, it gives you the opportunity to give Roman one last face push before he, rides off into the sunset and then and then the usos can return together and be it allows you to do that the problem with the solo thing for me is yeah this new guy is way more intriguing to me than solo is tamatanga yeah yeah yeah yeah more intriguing he seems more devastating he's I'm like that guy talk that guy should be the guy who's who's running shop so solo just solo just so he doesn't have it on the

mic he's just kind of and he's got one move he sticks his thumb in your throat and that's all he does and it's a borrowed move you know from his ancestors right which is he's, he's, you know, scary enough, but, but I'm running the whole thing. But I like what Paul Heyman's trying to do. God bless him. Yeah. scared of everything. But I think it, I do think that it's necessary into the lead-up. The other stuff is Cody Rhodes, absolutely owning the role as champion.

Yeah. Love it. Love it. Yeah. And I love that he's on social media, addressing people, going back and forward people. I think that's great. As opposed to hate that James Gunn does it. I love that Cody Rhodes does it and talks to people and lets people know what they're doing.

definitely going to be a fighting champion. And we're going to see. And I already see, you already see the bloodline people, you already see the Roman Raines lovers going after Cody. But you got to let it breathe for a little bit. And I think it's real important how they program his opponents going forward in order to really solidify his reign and then build up to something. When Raines comes back,

are they going to tag team together? Right. All kinds of questions down the road that you're going to have some fun with for sure. But I like how it's going so far. Me too. My brother is, my brother is a big, Hogan guy and he's like always like the good guys when he was growing up and

some reason he is he's such a he's such a Cody hater and he and he's and he writes writes me about me and my friend you see him put in Super chats Metbull and we're on this we're on this text thing together and I remember I was like

I hope you Cody cry babies are happy and all this stuff too and I go if you're six year old self could see you he'd be ashamed of you for shame of you For shame. Anyway, other stuff,

you know, Seth Rallens probably going to be taking a break, it looks like. Yeah. Same thing with Becky, as you said last week. Yeah,

you know, you could see it coming, yeah. Yeah, I love this Braun Breaker guy, dude. He runs at 300 miles an hour in the ring.

I love that for much longer. Dude, you knew, first time I saw him at a guy is going to be a fucking star. You just know, you and I've watched wrestling for decades. You know when you see it.

And this guy, immediately and I like the way they brought him up again I like what they're doing with him more than I like what they're doing with jade cargill they're actually showing both of them are being shown as these indomitable beasts but I feel like they're doing a way better job with um with brawn because brawn no offense can actually fully wrestle a whole match without needing to be taken care of and I think you're going to be right about this I hate that you're going to be right about this but like I because I was the one that's kind of championing jade right and I think I just think she's going to be like, but she's got, it's like, I find myself even,

it's like, okay, here we go, squash on this, on the, what's her name, Chelsea again. Yeah, Chelsea. And then that move where she like does this thing where she, it's like, I don't know. I'm like, it makes me nervous. It makes me nervous. I don't think she's going to be able to hang. Anyway, and other than that, I think so far what they've done since WrestleMania has been good, Smackdown and Raw were good and really.

So I hate the stupid draft. The draft is the worst and the stupidest thing that that company ever came up with and they're continuing to do it again. It's a stupid move. But either way, they're going to do it soon. And that's it for the wrestling side of it. Before we leave the wrestling, yeah, yeah. Talk about who punched you in the nose. What's that all about, brother?

On the other side, what is it? Is that chocolate? Oh, I thought there was a bruise. Oh, no, no, no. I got it. I had shit. Yeah, today my little one was doing. I took my father's father-in-law's birthdays today.

Yeah, because I didn't know how long we're going to go before. Somebody said, but no, my father-in-law, this, it was a thing this morning. It was a whole thing this morning. Oh, okay. I followed his birthday. And my, and my, Maysy was making, making these cards. And she had, she had to do the paint this morning. She had to do the paint the dinosaurs.

And it's like, stupid. anyway so there you go small price for being a dad yeah that's it but she's she's been she's been incredible it so anyway uh moving on and let's get to the actual let's get to the main story here and that's the fact that civil war really delivered here um and we wound up making 25.7 million yeah opening weekend knocking off godzilla and kong which still came in at number two with 15.5 but Godzilla and Kong now worldwide has made 436 million. I think it pushed, it pushed Warner Brothers over a billion dollars already for the, for the year. Yeah, totally easily.

So Kung Fu Panda, oh, no, Ghostbusters Frozen Empire, number three, Kung Fu Panda, and then Dune at number five. So Civil War, we haven't really talked about it. What did you think of the movie? Oh, I liked it a lot. I really enjoyed it. And I went in with high expectations. And I thoroughly enjoyed it from top to bottom. I had a couple of issues near the end of the movie with a couple of things they did with a couple of the characters and some needle drop issues with some of those songs that Garland chose to play at certain moments.

But overall, I thought the film did an incredible job of being apolitical in the fact that it doesn't choose a side, as Garland said. But also, it's very clearly an anti-war film. Like it is saying, both sides do stupid shit. Both sides are going to indulge their worse nature's. if we don't get a handle on this, this could be our future. And it's fascinating to me, somebody who's caught up with this California,

Texas thing? Who gives a fuck? It's a fictional universe. Right. In their fictional universe that kind of has shades of stuff in our world, they are making, Alex is making this commentary. And so for me overall,

I thought the film was excellent and totally worked. Yeah, I liked it a lot. I really did. And the problem is that where we are today is a society, people are going to get testy about things. people I agree with you it's completely apolitical and someone said you're telling me you don't take your side who do you think that Nick Offerman is playing I said any dictator that has held onto power too long yeah has been acting you know acting a fool and yeah right that it's clearly

Trump it's like it's it's not it isn't and yeah there he's he's he doesn't have anything even resembling uh it all it just seems like a someone who's tried to hold on to power for a bit And the other thing that they do, they don't paint the other side as wonderful people. No. They're fully on murder people in the middle of certain raids and other things happening. We mark out three military guys and shoot them point blank in the head with sacks over their, black sacks over their heads. That is brutal.

And the final shot is essentially Guantanamo Bay. So to me, both of them. It's everything. No one to me was painted well in that film. me even even the friend this is i don't disagree with someone said i don't really find myself rooting for anybody and i can get it i understand that i understand that for sure i think that there's there's some characters you think you're going to you're going to be rooting for but even certain choices they make you're like well it's kind of selfish and then um and

but i will say who who's the who's the older black guy that uh the that uh the mckinley henderson yeah yeah he he was he was great he's probably he's probably the most likable guy in the entire movie i think yeah and i think yeah and i think that's on purpose because he's the older guy he's from the different time a different generation where we kind of had things a certain way we accepted things a certain way all in mass nowadays it's not quite that thing so you see him being a part of this and uh you know i think he's great and seen him in a million things he was in dune the first dune he was cut out of the second dune which uh denise said was one of most heartbreaking cuts he made in the in the dune two film

film so yeah it's a really good actor and he brings the that grandfather energy that pathos that you want to see in a film like this yeah did you and i don't know what your comment section was like in your reviews but it was i've never seen such a split fittingly enough such a split comment section where that's like you'd get a comment of how great the movie was and the next time it would be how boring it was and how horrible it was and how much it took aside and like it was i've never seen such a divide and that's probably why it did as well as it did like 30 million people i wonder i wonder if it'll continue on what the drop will be like It'll be a 50% drop.

It'll be an 80% drop. Like, I'm curious. Yeah, I think this is an opening weekend movie and that it'll drop because I think people are curious. The reviews have been, some people have been mixed. Some people have been on point with their reviews. And so, or liking it rather. And so we'll see how the reaction is. But I think the public is, I think they're hesitant to go and see a film like this,

like over and over again or go see this in $100,200 million because it's a little too close to home, man. It's an easy watch. Yeah, we're an election year, and Trump's in trial today. So I think a lot of people, you know, have some feelings about it all. So, yeah, it'd be tough. So, and then Kong and Godzilla had a nice showing. Again, we did very well for Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers has started out very well so far as both Dune and Kong Godzilla.

They have a bunch of other movies that are coming out this year. But I think that if this weekend, let me see, what could take out, I think Abigail's coming out. Is that the one? Yeah, I'm going to see, I'm going to see the Ministry of Ungenerally Warfare

tonight. Oh, I'm going tomorrow, yeah. Okay, and then I say Abigail on Wednesday. So those, those two movies will,

you know, we'll give some competition in Civil War for sure. Right. The following week is challengers, which I've missed every screening for that. I'm so far.

But I really want to see that. I probably go to see an weekend. You'll love it, man. That's what I heard. And then May, May 3rd is when it all goes down and that's that's what's starting with the fall guy so yeah yeah fall guy is what everyone's

waiting for that and that's the big like i think that's the big official kickoff to the summer movie season even though godzilla and kong is like kind of soft to launch but i think it's fall guy that's really going to kick off the uh the summer movie season okay um yeah um yeah because i'm i'm curious how what is that's may third is fall guy right yeah yeah i'm what you know you and i talked about uh cinema con Yeah. At the time when we talked about it, we said it looked like it was a little overwhelming. It seemed like pick back up a little bit more towards like the last half, right? Yeah, you mean the panels themselves? Yeah, like the news that came out of it. It seemed like because it seemed like nobody really cared.

Yeah. When Jeff talked to Jeff and I talked about it on the hot mic this past week, we did a whole recap on Friday about it. And Jeff said like, yeah, to him, the Warner panel won because there was a lot of announcements coming out of the Warner panel. And then Disney had some announcements as well coming out of this thing. And so there was a lot here. There's a lot more than you thought. And yes, people are like, oh, 2025 is the year for sure, but 2024 is kind of starting out well, box office wise. I mean, look at Kung Fu Panda 4. It's almost going to cross, it's almost close to

$500 million worldwide. It's still opening in other markets. Oppenheimer is still opening in Japan. It just did like $7 million in Japan. And so these markets are still opening up in American movies and people are going to see these films. So I think it's starting out well and all this doom and gloom they came out of cinema con, I think was overdone by some people who are supposed to doomb. Well, they were all like, oh, there's, you know,

they didn't have a lot to announce. They didn't have a lot of show. They haven't a lot of finished. But sometimes it's not about quantity. It's about quality. And if you hair it down a little bit and you're out, all these things you're looking forward to, I think people are still excited to see what's going on.

Yeah, that was it. That was for me, was there excitement. And it seemed like there was some excitement that came out of it. Obviously, the Deadpool stuff, which came out of it as well. And I think the one that stole, a lot of headlines was the Mickey 17 stuff. Yeah. That's a lot of headlines. So curious about it, what do you guys think, you know, out of the stuff that we've talked

about so far, whether it's Civil War, um, you see, when in the box office, whether it's the controversy around it with people, you know, complaining about it, loving it, hating it, and the cinema con stuff. I see a lot of super chats coming in. Don't worry. The way it works is John and I go through all of our topics first and then we get to yours, so we will get to them. Before we move on to our next topic, I do want to tell you,

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Yeah. Please do. And you'll see a lot of great reviews. You will see on his channel. You won't see on my channel. That's Shogun. Yes, we do Shogun reviews every Tuesday. Yes.

Yeah, those are going to work for you. So that's, but the other show that just came out that everybody's talking. about is this fallout show i did watch episode one and so fallout game the game is soaring post the tv launch now amazon launched their fallout tv series to critical success and much hype last week it looks as though the show is already having a wider impact on the part of the franchise that birthed steam db indicates that a number of games in the fallout series have seen a large increase in concurrent players counts on steam follows follow excuse me following its release with some more than tripling their usual numbers.

Fallout 4 has seen the biggest leap going from weekend peaks of around 20,000, 24,000 for the six months to 83,000 on Sunday alone. Fallout 76 also saw a large jump in numbers, jumping from 13,000 players to almost 40,000 on Sunday, breaking its all-time peak concurrent player count. So, yeah, so the TV series is expected to proceed with a second season, with production moving from New York and Utah to California as part of a tax incentive. All right. So I watched episode one.

Yeah. And I like it so far. I don't know. I didn't know anything about the world. I got so this is I wish I had a camera on on my house during this though because I said to my wife, I go, hey, you want to watch this show this fallout show? She said, what is it? I go, it's a show that's on, it's it's on Amazon Prime. It's getting a lot of buzz. And she's like, what is it? I go, I don't really know. And so we start watching it. And at first she was like, oh, this is, this is kind of crazy. And then it gets intense. And then there's a scene where, I'll just say with with grave with the grave. Yes. Yeah.

I'm out. This is. I'm going to. I'm out. And she bailed on it. But I was like, no, no, I got to finish it. I got to finish it. And it's definitely more so for me than it is for her.

But I liked what I saw so far. I think it's pretty good. Walt and Goggins is the best. Yeah. It's great to see him. Michael Chickles tweeted about him how much he's happy to Walt getting the love and respect that he's known since the shield, of course. A lot of us, like you and I, Christian,

we've seen them in a million things and just been waiting for that moment, and it seems like this moment is here. And Ella Pernell, I think, is fantastic as a leader of the show as well, really enjoying her as a new actress coming in. I haven't seen her in much. People say in Arcane and other things, but like, I was just blown away by how

well they built out this world and how interesting they made it. And, you know, we're in a golden age of video game adaptations now, Christian, with Sonic, with Last of Us, with this. It's starting to build. And I was on, my PS5 last night, sorting through because I having a big old sale there,

and I had no idea how much their fallout stuff has been discounted. So this is the right time to jump into that game if you want to play it and have some fun with it. And so I'm not surprised at all to see the game video game numbers jump and still hard. Yeah, and it's like any time when something's really popular, like their sales go up,

even when, you know, I remember, well, the unfortunate stuff is like when, when artists like die. Right. You know, when the artists said they're, they're stuff skyrockets, but like if there's a movie about somebody, like, I wonder like what the Bob Marley album sales were like in February, right? Like, so that stuff happens and it can benefit and it always benefits. The same thing. I wonder what last of us sales were like when that game was going on.

Oh yeah. Yeah. A hundred people were playing that game. And especially what's good though is we've, we used to talk about this dude all of the time during the Collider era during Shmoh's like during the stuff. It was like, when is the video game era going to start? And it was. And it was, It was like, it was just like that, you know, in sports terms, that team that just never could get out of last place. Yeah, we could. Yeah. They're starting to get out of last place. Big time.

Because they've got a bunch of it, whether it's Sonic or Last of Us or this. And the two things, this is the thing I always said this. And you can go back to this freaking comments back on Collider. Those games will work much better as television series, whether they're H-H. HBO, Amazon, Netflix, whatever it might be, because you have time to take that big, long story that's told in a video game. Yeah. And you condense it into an hour long episode or whatever it is, but you're at least getting eight, 10, 12 episodes as opposed to a two and a half hour movie where you've got to change everything. Yeah.

No, and you were right on that because the thing is the, I think it's not a cool, I think you can't separate the success of this stuff now from how much. much more cinematic these games have become, how much more layered and nuanced their storytelling has become because they've gotten Hollywood screenwriters. They've gotten accomplished screenwriters to come in and write a lot of the story within these video games. And so that's the thing that makes it easier to adapt. And because there's so much dense material, trying to think you can do a two-hour movie out of it or an hour and 45 minute, which is usually the video game adaptations, you're way off. Like Warcraft, World Warcraft was not a good movie. If you turn that into a TV series, that could have been super interesting.

So you're 100% right. That's the way to go because these are so much more dense than they used to be. Whereas Sonic is a fun adventure game and hazd up or Mario. Those are fun to see in the movie theater because they're not really tied to a larger lore and massive mythology. There's much less going on there than there are in these other games. So yeah, this is the success that we're seeing now. And they're getting good creators. That's another part of this.

Good creators who love this stuff to go on. and work on it and make it happen. Yeah, it's true. And I think that even if you look at some of these, well, books, too, I think that there's a lot of these books, that's why I still, anytime I get a chance to take a little subtle jab into Lucas Films' belly, I will because it's like the, the fact that you're looking for television shows and you've got all of these wonderful novels and authors that have put their heart,

sweat, blood, and tears into these novels, and you have such great stories that you could adapt these books and have really well-written good stories over the course of like eight to ten episodes instead of you're coming up with these cockamamie stories that are that that seem like they're written by by seven-year-olds um so that's and that could be something that you could whether you do on um look look look what they're doing with harry potter yeah with harry potter they're these are very popular movies and some of the best movies and percy jackson is another example right people like you you have more time to expand on what people fell in love with in the first place.

Yeah. And even watching those Harry Potter movies as well as they were made, I remember watching those movies and going, oh, I remember they left that out of the book. Yeah, I guess they kind of had to. You don't have to do that in a TV show. Yeah. And the person from what I'm hearing from the people I know is the person who's going to be show running that show is one of the head writers for succession.

And so if you're going with an adult succession writer route, that's going to make it even more interesting. I'm always taken aback by these studios and these IP who just want to go and placate the younger kids. I get that you want to create contact with that. Of course, it's important. But kids are so much more older than they used to be nowadays

and they're exposed to more than they used to be now. Yeah, more mature because they're older now. They're emotionally more mature, right? And because they've access to all this shit at their fingertips. Christian, we had to go sneak books off and try to, you know, nowadays, kids have access to everything. So, no matter what barriers you put up, they find their ways around it. So you got a great content that appeals to them and gets them interested and excited.

And a more mature adult, a more adult approach, I think is important for a lot of these IPs to wake up to, man. Yeah, it's true. You know, I saw someone mention that, well, you know, but Halo didn't work. And I was like, it doesn't always work. And the other reason, it must have worked to some level of a second reason. I do agree. This person said that it sucked. I only watched the first episode, and I bailed on it.

because this is something that video game movies have done traditionally in the past, and Halo did it also. They're completely changing the game. It's not the game. It's just you just happen to have Master Chief in it and you've got the covenant and you have this, but it's not the story that you kind of fell in love with with, with change it. Like, Last of Us was the story with some changes along.

You know, like that, it's like there's a reason why you fell in love with it in the first place. Don't change it. And they changed it. They did the lone cub and the wolf and the lone cub again. They've seen it so many different times. From what I heard, season two got better, and they stayed away from it. But I bailed after the first episode. Right.

Yeah. Exactly, exactly. No, sorry, go ahead. Yeah. But I was going to go back to our conversation as we opened up the show with the binging versus the week to week. Because at one point, I feel like, and I, and if someone said, well, you used to say that binging was better, you wanted to watch all one shot. I very well might have said that, and I would go back and tell myself, you were wrong. Because it is exactly what you.

you said and what the showrunner said was that um you forget about it after you can have a like fall out everybody's talking about it right now but because it all dumped it'll be forgotten in the month yeah as opposed to letting it air for two months straight and then getting to that fact we're getting to that that the final episode and you're like oh here we go this is the episode and you that lead up to it um that's say what you want about the star war shows they at least doing week to week they're not dumping it all at one shot. And I think it allowed, because those shows came out all one time. I mean, look at, look at Echo. Came in one. Yeah. Within a, within a week. And that's the, what is why I think it's a case by case basis. I think you can't just go, yes, all binge or no all

binge. It's case by case basis. Look at three body problem. Christian, everyone was looking forward to three body problem. No one's talking about it anymore. It came out like a week ago. Yeah, they dumped it. It was binge. But if you had done three body problem every week, that would have in a super interesting conversation to have about some of the concepts that's presented within that show. I'm still not done with the show. I'm seven episodes in. It's a lot in that show that you can really explore, do videos on. It would be a lot of fun to have a conversation on. Same thing with fallout. You know, this thing. Boom, dumb. The fact that you're not taking that week to week, I just don't understand the logic. I mean, there's much more to be had with certain shows

that have much more to them that makes sense to go week to week, whereas the other stuff that doesn't, Yeah, dump it, go in and out. You're good to go, you know. We joke about it. We look at Shogun. Shogun's still in the conversation because it's been on the air for like seven or eight weeks. No one would be talking about Shogun if it had dropped after two weeks. No one if it dropped.

Yeah, you would have watched all of it. And it's like, you know, there's, I mean, and look at, look at stranger things, right? Stranger Thing was that season, a stranger thing, season four did something that a lot of shows can't do. And it made arguably a better season than its first season, right? And there's a lot of people that will go back and forth. One is the best. Four is the best. One is the best.

That's hard to do unless you're like the, you know, I mean, Breaking Bad or something like, but it's hard to do. Imagine breaking bad, it would all dumped in one day, you know, and you watch it all in one day. It's like the selfishness of you. Yeah, I want to see how it ends. But it's like you don't get that anticipation. You just don't get that as you're waiting for it. And stranger things, I feel like that season with Vecna could have.

I mean, as much as people talked about that show, imagine if people would have talked about that show weekly. Now, that's the question I have for you when it comes to Netflix. Because Netflix, you know, Amazon Prime, they've done weekly. So it's weird that they dumped it because they usually do weekly. So there was a weird move for them. They'll do weekly again. They'll go back to weekly for other shows.

So that's not a thing. Netflix, though, has Netflix ever done weekly? I can't think of them having done a weekly show. Oh, no, yes. Well, I mean, Great British Bakeoff. That is every week. Scripted. Scripted.

Scripted. Well, that's, oh, scripted. I don't think I can recall a show that has been done week to week that is scripted on Netflix. And maybe people in the chat can think of. Yes, yeah. They're split it into two. Like, you know, Netflix split into two, like the hemian split into two. It's like, now the question is, will they get, will they be stubborn?

and I think if I'm Netflix, I'm like, okay, the, Saran does it. I'm going, okay, look, people bitch and moan about this shit all the time,

right? Let's try one show. Let's try one show, one of our highly anticipated shows. Let's do it week to week. And let's see. Does it become the water cooler conversation that we hope it to? Does it help us in the long run?

Like, what's the benefit against the negative on it? You know, like it's because they, they give everybody the opportunity to get it all. It's like, take your time and build it. It's like,

because they have other shows they want to drop. I'm like, you can, you can have your show in the zeitics. You can have your show in the, as the number one, I think you made a great point with like three body problem, right? I'm still, I'm only like four episodes into that thing,

but the longer I take, here's the difference between me not watching Shogun and me not watching three body problem right now. With Shogun, my plan is to watch episodes, like on the actual channel. So I'll watch a few, release them on the channel.

And I know the finale is coming up, Like this week? Is it this week? Next week. Next week. Next week. Next week. So I still, if I started putting out episodes,

watching them in the next couple of days, I'll still be in the relevant zone for Shogun. I start doing episode drops for a three-body problem. I'm way behind the, I mean, look, I'm already four days past fallouts problem, which is crazy. Yeah. We have friends late to the party putting up their reactions.

And I don't think they're getting. the same numbers than if it had been a week to week. Right. We're putting up their reaction and Real Rejects does this too, right? They put up their reactions almost, an episode almost a day, but then you're pushing back all your programming. You're, you don't have to readjust for how you're planning that out. And so what if other big stuff breaks?

Like are you creating a space? So, and then people's interest starts to wane after a week. If they've already had time to watch it, then might not be interested to go back and watch you watching it, you know? And so that's a part of it as well. as content creators yeah 100% and i think that you know fall out i think especially when you get that buzz on i it's weird that amazon did it like netflix you like yeah i do it all the time they just don't listen to anybody they're doing it all the time and here they go again and it's just like

you old silly old Netflix but the fact that amazon did it when they don't normally do that like sometimes you do sometimes they don't i can't remember mr mrs smith was all dumped i feel like it was i think it was all dumped yeah yeah i don't know why i don't know why amazon's been doing that lately. Yeah, out of range. It's all dumped at the same time. Reacher wasn't, right? Reacher was week to week, wasn't it? Reacher was, no, that was dumped all of the same. Maybe Amazon has been doing it more so now. Apple, I, Apple's always week to week. Yeah, always week to week. Yeah. Did you start watching that Colin Farrell show? The Apple was? Yeah, no, you know what? Shannon texted me on yesterday,

and he's like, dude, you need to start watching the show. And so I'm going to put that on my list to watch this week. Oh, I want to check it out. All right. So you guys, all this stuff, whether you're watching, live, whether you're not asking a question on Super Chat, whether you're watching them on the replay, put your comments in it, put your thoughts in there. What do you think about this conversation on the streaming stuff? I'm very curious to hear what you think. Reacher and Invincible were week to week. Okay. So you were. Okay. So Reacher was week to week. Yeah, my bad. I get them all at once, so I sometimes forget with Reaching.

Oh, look at you. No, no. Don't even. You don't even. You missed a cool. All right. All right, let's go to Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. It's the sequel. And Gina Davis, I could have sworn. I think we even talked about it on this show. I could have sworn that Davis was going to do a cameo. Alec Baldwin obviously not. Yeah, yeah.

But she's not. Tim Burton unleashes Beatleges, Beatles, just later this year, which sees many of the cast members returning from the 88 film. There's some that aren't back. Sylvia Sidney passed away in 1999. Glenn Shattuckx passed away in 2010,

and Jeffrey Jones is out for obvious reasons. but what about the first film's lead Alec Baldwin and Gina Davis both are very much alive and still acting and with de-aging effects this could be possible sadly Davis tells entertainment tonight she's not in the film and understands why she says no I'm not in it I'm not in the remake oh you were expecting that I would be yeah no you know what because my theory is that ghosts don't age not that I have

our characters were stuck the way that they looked when they died forever so it's been a while it's been a minute indeed those involved in the film making have made a point of pride that the project utilizes as many practical effects as possible with very little in the way of digital trickery. Michael Keaton is back as a ghost too, however, due to the amount of makeup slathered on his face and his aged up appearance in the original. He doesn't look that different. Davis appeared in the original as Barbara Maitland, the ghost who was seen by Winona Ryder character Lydia Dietz. She adds that she heard the trailer came out but hasn't seen it yet. So Routman went on a writer, Catherine O'Hara, Justin Thoreau.

Monica Baluchy, Willem Defoe, also star in Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, which hits the cinemas on September 6th. This sucks. Yeah. Sucks. I think I get it. But like, you know, yeah, I mean, maybe it's because of exactly what they said. Yeah, you could have done de-aging. But what you have, like, if I'm Tim Burton, I'm like, look, I really want to make a movie like I used to make it.

I want to make it with practical effects. and what I don't want to do is make this movie and then everything everyone is talking about is well what did you think about that de-aging of Gina Davis scene you know like that I understand that I get that I would have liked to see her pop up or even her voice or something pop up and the same way they kind of did I thought the Harold Ramis stuff and Ghostbusters the afterlife was awesome yeah yeah but something else I mean I knew that you knew that Alec Baldwin was going to be in it but like but Gina Davis not being in it is a bummer but I guess I get it. Yeah, I don't think people would have been upset about her showing up and being an older ghost. I mean, maybe some angry people would have made YouTube videos of like, Ghost don't age, but it's a shit. It's Gina Davis. And I don't think anybody would have cared if you deaged her for one scene and had some fun with it. It was a cameo. You can tell a strong enough story. You can get away with a deaging moment with Gina Davis. So it's a shame because I loved her and I love her in the show, sorry, in the film. And, uh, you know, I think it would have been fun to have her.

So it's kind of a bummer that she's not like working in the office with like that the upper level office, which is where I imagine she would be by this point as a ghost, you know, because they showed there was a bureaucracy there involved with ghost stuff. It would have been fun to say it like his vice president up there or president or some shit. That would be a lot of fun. But sadly, apparently we're not, unless that she's doing the the Joaquin thing where it's like, I haven't been approached about Joker. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not in it. I'm not in it. And then she pops up as a cameo.

I don't know. Well, same to Liam Mason, right? Liam Mason did the same thing. No, I'm not going to be quigone. No way. Right. And we did a whole title of a video said, William Mason was a liar. Full on liar. There's no way he's not going to be in it.

I mean, it could have been in it a lot better than they did going back to that. That's true, true. Like, yeah, I sold a whole, obviously for people who don't know, we're doing the move here soon and moving to New York. And we put that Amazon list up, by the way, and people that wish list. So thank you to people for the studio list to, coming up with that idea.

But I was, I'm selling a lot of those Star Wars books that I got, like a ton of them. And I actually, I got a question from a guy, from a guy was like, hey, are you just not, you know, into the franchise as much anymore? And I said, honestly, no, just not. You want to have this conversation? Hey, I can have it. It's like, I'm just not, like, are you not, you not, like, you were the guy. You were the guy that used to talk about it all the time.

I'm like, yeah, but like, I'm still, like, as I mentioned you, I said this, I think I said this to you on text and I've said it a few different times over on the air. but you'll appreciate it again you remember when steve sacks played for the yankees back in in like 88 89 yankees were bad they were terrible um and people were leaving in the fifth inning that's where star wars is right now people are leaving in the fifth and it's like you know am i going to still watch the games yeah i still watch the games back then but do i hope that we get a better coach do i hope that we get a better pitcher do i hope that we start hitting some home runs yeah i do but like the franchise is in

terrible shape right now. It's in, it's, it's, it's really bad. It's really bad. And the more, the more stuff that I watch, like, and, and what I, I, I saw somebody talking about this recently and there's critics. It's funny. It's like, they were saying, is there a movie? And I can't remember what it was. I think it was something the Christian

Blumeir posted, but like, is there a movie that you saw the first time or a TV show you watched the first time that you then went back and said it was either better or worse? And critics like, yeah, it happens to me all the time. It happens to every critic all the time. but if you do it with star wars and then people lose their minds um but like there's a couple things like i don't think i can't go back and watch asoka anymore because the writing is is really bad in that show it's like arociously bad in that show yeah i'm not i'm not you're not wrong i i do not go back and watch much of the star wars content beyond and or rogue one force awakens every once in a while

some of last jedi and mandolian stuff and i agree i don't but it's to me it's been a combo, right? It's a combo of them delivering some disappointing overall shows and movies and people making a whole cottage industry over getting upset about Star Wars and, you know, taking advantage

of the anger and stoking the anger over and over and over again. And so it's a combo of both. And I think that, and then people caught in the middle and there's like, yeah, it's, you know, it's all just too much. It's getting to be too much. Even the Ray movies is already like people like, oh, it's never happening. It's trash. So there's

There's nothing they can do at this point that's going to satisfy people. So, well, I don't know, but I don't know if that's true. Content, I guess is the only thing they can. Look, because look, Dune satisfied people. And someone said, someone does this again. It goes back to the point where you talk and people don't really listen to you. Like, didn't I just say that, yeah, I'm still going to watch the games. I'm still going to watch it.

Someone's like, well, because it was bad writing, you're not going to watch it. I didn't say that. I'm just not enjoying as much because I'm paying. there's some of the stuff that's just not very good on the writing of it and it's also there's some of the acting is not wonderful and some of the choices that are being made for the stories that are told as I mentioned

before. So it's just it's just not, you know, but the other side of it is what I'm not is when people like, well, if you like it with a United Star Wars fan. No, you like it good. I'm glad that if you, well, this happens to be my favorite era of Star Wars. That's awesome in the same way that like if we're talking about wrestling,

when we're talking about wrestling that Some people think, well, this era of wrestling is actually terrible. Okay, I'm agreed to disagree. I'm enjoying it. I thought four years ago was terrible. So there's always going to be difference of opinion when it comes to this stuff. But I just, as far as when this person asked me, we do the one-on-one Patreon things that I do.

And another guy was like, you know, telling me like, aren't she excited about Ackleite? I said, I am curious about Ackleite. Yeah. But I'm now to the point where getting excited about these shows. doesn't do me any good because it just it just not it's it comes from leadership man it comes from leadership and it comes from them throwing trying to well maybe this one will be the good the one that people like it's like put together a freaking plan yeah it's so anyway we're still saying this i know all these years later put together a freaking plan because that was obviously the problem

with the sequel trilogy look i think it's good to have healthy discourse and have healthy disagreement ambassador. Listen, you'll never convince me that the prequel trilogy is a good trilogy. You'll never convince me. And I know people love those films and I respect that. But by the same token, I respect you loving those prequel trilogy films and respect me not liking them. It doesn't make me any less of a Star Wars fan and it doesn't make you any more of a Star Wars fan. Isn't the Civil War film about that? How both sides take it to the extreme and do terrible stuff. And the truth is, in the middle is where we all need to be with healthy, open discourse,

where we don't walk away hating the other person because they didn't agree with us. Or being called a shill, which I think is like one of the most... It's like that scene in eight mile. You know, it's like for at the end when Eminem knows what he's going to say. It's like, for me, it's like, okay, okay,

what are you going to say? You're going to pull up a Galaxy's Edge thing. Go ahead, throw it in there. You're going to throw in. Go ahead, throw it in there. What else? You're going to throw in something about my brother. Okay, go ahead, go in there.

What else you got? What you got? It's like, okay, well, that's new. That's fresh. Go ahead. That's a new one. So anyway. Yeah, I just got one.

Look, Roken doesn't know Star Wars. There you go. There's another troll who says, they all say that shit. Right. And I'm talking about Star Wars for 40 fucking years. And Christian's the one that brought me on to the show because you knew how much of a mainstream Star Wars man I was when I first started.

So you're always got these idiots who think they know more or think they have. It's part of it. It's part. You also realize it though when you're doing this though after a while it comes with the territory Right? Oh yeah. It takes you a while to get used to it, but it comes with the territory. And the same way like I said, it's like it my favorite things now when things go to spam, it's that people write these like long diatribes and I'm like no one saw.

I just deleted it. It's my favorite thing in the world. I love as soon as I see like a 10 paragraph response in the first line is like negative. I love deleting it because I get the notices on my phone. I go immediately delete or block. I'm like, you're a waste of space. Why am I going to do that? It's true.

But either way. Lots there to talk about, but if people are digging and like what's going on there, then that that's the other thing. I don't think that they should be ridiculed for it. Nope. Anyway, let's get to this last topic and then we'll get to the questions. Sounds good. Spider-Man, man.

Spider-Man 4. Spider-Man 4. They're saying it's targeting a September start. Interestante, Mr. Burkante. Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures are reportedly targeting a late September filming start for the upcoming fourth Tom Holland-led Spider-Man film. Daniel Rickman says that things should, if they're proceeding as smoothly as they think, we could see as spidey in cinemas by early as late 2025.

That's crazy. That's crazy. That would mark a four-year gap between Spider-Man No Way Home and the next title, the longest gap between Spider-Man film since the five-year break between McGuire's last and Garfield's first. The big catch is the film currently has no director. That won't be hard, though. They'll find one pretty quick on that. And Rickman reiterates that no filmmakers attached, so he adds that an offer is out to someone. The likes of Drew Goddard and Justin Lynn are among the names rumored for the gig in times past.

But both recently committed to new projects, including a Matrix reboot and the thriller's stakehorse respectively. but Sony has tried to launch their own Spider-Man spin-offs in recent years to mostly disastrous results with the likes of Morbius and Madame Webb. This is crazy. Yeah. When the report a month or two months ago

was that they can't get on the same page because Sony wants to do a Spider-Man movie with the multiverse and all over the big grand scale and Feige wants to do more street-level stuff, which is the way to go, by the way. where did they settle? Did they settle? Who's the director? And they want to get this thing out by 2025? This sounds like a Sony stink all over.

Yeah, I don't understand this. Like, I don't understand the rush on this. And I don't understand trying to get the shoot going already by the end of the year and then trying to get out by 2025. 2025 is already stacked. It is so stacked. And you're going to add another thing here in Russia? Like, are you telling the street level?

Are you telling a bigger story? There's rumors that they want to bring back, you know, all the last, Toby and Andrew to be a part of it. And it's like, well, great. Then you'll ruin the mystique of no way home. All right. But so there's so much of the day. It just shocks me, right, that they're already considering this.

We still got to get a script. We still got to get one that works for what's going on. Marvel is in such a state of flux. How can you possibly write a script without knowing what Marvel is really going to do next over the next phases as they're readjusting everything under the Iger, under the new IGRA regime. So there's so much that still needs to get hammered out before you can figure out a Spider-Man film.

And just the play. Dude, 2025. So this is what's kind of like, so January 2025, not January 25, but 2025 so far you've got, I think there's like four Marvel movies already coming out. If I'm not mistaken, I think.

So you've got in May, Thunderbolts, which you're not convinced it's going to come out in general. Not with that asterisk. Come on, Christian. That says we don't even know the film's happening. Yeah, go ahead.

June 27th. June 27th right now. Yeah. Untitled Sony slash Marvel live action film is slated for June 2025. That's crazy. That's crazy. I mean, that's a year.

That's about almost, well, it's about two, no, no, it was a year away. That's a year away. Yeah. That's a year to get, if they start shooting, in September to have it out in June. No way. No way.

But it's not alone, brother. No way. Fantastic Four then comes out in July. Yeah. And then, let's see, entitled Disney film in August. And let's see what they have anything kind of settled or held any spots. There's nothing held. That's the only spot that's held in June. So June, no way. No chance. Shoot in September out in June. No way. So I don't know. I mean, Danny Rickman is usually on, on, on, point. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, a lot of the time he is. Sometimes he's off and he certainly admitted that. Certainly with the, with the Dr. Doom situation, he's bit off on that. So yeah, most of the time he's on, but sometimes he does miss. So the thing is, you can't really, um, tie down these scoopers to certain things because everything is so in flux. Yeah. Yes, in that moment, it may be accurate. He's heard from studio people that he knows and connections that this is what's happening. But then two weeks later, like you said, Christian, we had just a few weeks ago, they couldn't even get on the same

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Okay, we got questions. We got answers. All right. Hershey, too. Have either of you watched Fallout? It's great. So, yeah, I mean, obviously, we talked about it a little bit. So it's so far pretty good.

You like the four episodes that you've watched thus far? Yeah, I've heard nothing but great things from people who've watched it all. So I'm loving the first four episodes and loving the characters and the storylines. And the worlds they're building out and the humor. It's a lot of good humor mixed with some real emotional stakes. So yeah, absolutely. It's pretty graphic, too. Yes, 100%.

Armada. Did you all see the Ryan Gosling, Beavis, and Butthead, Schitton, S&L, it was funny. It was hilarious. Dude, it's hilarious. It was one of the funniest things they've done in a very long time. Yes, when I tweeted out, I said it's the best thing I've seen in decades from S&L's a sketch because of everything involved in it, the makeup.

And then Heidi, Heidi never breaks. She never breaks. And her, she lost it, dude. Yeah, someone was like, oh, don't they practice this? I do not think that they practice. I don't think she saw those costumes. There's no chance you saw that costume. Like when Mikey Day was, pops up his butt in, his teeth, hilarious.

hilarious. It was, it was, and he, when, when, when she's calling, like, and she's, he's, he out of here and he looks at the other guy and he goes, yeah, you, man. It was hilarious. It was really, it was really, it was, and Keenan, who kind of does the same thing in every sketch. Yeah. Basically. He's so lovable, though, but it, like, it worked, it worked in this one a lot. Um, oh, come on. Man, cartoon. You don't know it? You set them together. Come on, man. It was really good. And that's the type of stuff that I'm glad that they take swings with and do those types of things because they would just do, you know, the based off reality politics things all the time.

And it's like you're, you got to switch it up. You got to switch it up. I don't think there is good when they're doing the politics. I don't think they have the guy that comedians to really, to really carry that off. I really don't. Right. But this stuff, this, like this whole show was the best episode of the season so far. I didn't watch the whole thing.

I just watched that. I did see the thing. It's so funny because I, what's, Caitlin, what's her name? The basketball player. Oh yeah, Caitlin Clark. Yeah, I thought that was great. She was good. And it's funny because like I'm, like I said, I have, she's done it right because

she's, she's brought a big spotlight to women's basketball, right? And I, I had, I think it was through your tweeting that I had first kind of learned about her and then started seeing her everywhere. and the people obviously taking shots at her because she's doing the same stuff that Michael Jordan was doing as far as on the court, not playing wise, but on the court, like the type of the same kind of antics and what Kobe would do and what other great athletes, athletes would do and she was getting shit for it. I was like, why?

So I like, I like, I like the Michael Chey kind of back and forth with that, that was good. Yeah. Okay. Jared Guffey, happy tax day. Nothing happy about it. Regarding Civil War, I saw the director is attached to a new, film called warfare is this a spinoff or a new story thanks i don't know but i know that he announced that he is going to retire from directing so is he produced your writing for it yeah he said he's going to keep

writing he did say he's writing so i i don't know i but that i will say this about civil war and i said this in my review and my out of the theater reaction that could have been that absolutely could have been a television series oh yeah 100 you could absolutely if he wanted to take that the bare bones that are in that movie and turn it into a series like on Paramount Plus or Netflix or Prime. I mean, that would be genius. And it would be a way for him to take a break from movies and really focus on fleshing out this world

a bit more episode to episode. I would love that dude. Melissa Byrne. Christian, what's my love story? What's your love story? Was my love story? My wife still keeping me around, I guess. My wife?

My wife. Can I still come in? Yeah, that's my love story. I love that. That's what I say. I love that. I'm allowed to come in. I love it.

I'm allowed to eat dinner in the house and that I can sleep in the bed. That's my love story. I love that. Occasionally make babies and occasionally make babies. Oh, I'm done. Retired. Mad Sinister Macal. So is my wife.

She's no way. How many times a month do you go to theaters? Well, I mean, I think it just depends on, well, I'm just thinking about it when it comes to like May. May will probably be at least eight to 12. It's eight to 10, right? Yeah. Yeah.

It may be 12, but this month has been like, well, this week would be like I was supposed to do, I was supposed to do Monday, Wednesday and Thursday this week. Oh, because I was supposed to do Monday night. I was going to do tonight. I'm doing the, what's it called on generally? Gentleman Walker. Yeah. Seeing that one. And then Abigail on Wednesday. And then Thursday was supposed to be challengers. But something of my kids' school came up so I can't do challengers again. So that was supposed to be three. but yeah so that's that's probably that's what are you saying i'm mad we're not getting i didn't get a rebel moon part two screening because i did part one and they didn't do a rebel moon here but wendy went to the premiere last week oh fucker when the fuck was that well did you what you know someone complained about you cursing oh i apologize guys it's this kids to watch oh there are yeah you didn't know that well fuck you oh man uh uh really nice sorry about somebody who doesn't have a kid they're mature man they're

getting mature you know you know what i said k dog westmore looks like wb will be the number one studio for 2024 i don't know yet i don't know yet dune and godzilla went crazy oh joker and war of warham to be hits i mean they got a good shot i'm not going to write you off because they got a good shot um let's you know let's go back to that schedule oh yeah yeah let's see because right now they're they're they're they're winning right now there's no doubt about it so any like the big hitters that could come out and they're re-releasing alien but no the fall guy is universal universal doesn't have nothing too big kingdom planning apes is disney 20th century fox so that's yeah disney could have a shot there if it's paramount okay furiosa's warner brothers also so that's that adds to

their power garfield is sony no um let's see oh did you watch ufc 300 by the way uh no is it's a I watched. Dude, there's a fight. The BMF championship, which I never knew was a thing. Oh, the bad mother.

Yeah. Watch that. Have you seen that fight? No, I haven't. But I know I've seen fights for that belt before, yes. It is the craziest. Now remember,

so I was, I'm going to be doing a show with Matt Sarah when I go back to New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was texting him over the weekend and he's like, big fights. And I was like, that's right.

UFC 300. So I'm going to watch. So I bought the pay-per-view and watched it. Yeah. The BMF. championship and i remember i i used to watch you know i used to watch ufc religiously yeah i have not seen an ending to a fight like this maybe ever okay maybe ever it is it is in the top three if not the best okay finishes to a fight ever i find it you find it and don't and don't find it on

watch it quick before you get spoiled because i've already seen it on Instagram as far as like, you know, the ending of it. It's the craziest, it's the craziest ending I've ever seen. And Rogan loses his freaking mind as well as you should have. So, all right, inside out is Disney. Yeah. So they've got Disney so far as the contender to fight with them. Let's see, what else?

Quiet place is paramount, but still not enough to build. Universal got Despicable Me 4. That gives a little bit of a chance. Untitled New Lion Horror from Warner Brothers, Universal is Twisters, Deadpool and Wolverine by Disney. And then trap is Warner Brothers. I don't know what Trapp is. I'm not sure what that is. It's the M. Knight-Shammelon film.

Oh, okay. Josh Hartnett. That's right. Okay. Alien Romulus is Fox or Warner Brothers, rather. No, Alien Romulus is Disney. Disney. And then Beatleju, Beatlejuice is Warner Brothers.

So the fight is between Warner Brothers and Disney. Totally. That's the fight. And then you've got Superman, the Christopher Reeve story, which is Warner Brothers, Joker, which is Warner Brothers. Yeah. I mean, the Moana 2, Disney. Yeah. So, yeah, it's a fight between, and then War of Rohram and then Mufasa for Lion King.

So it's a fight between Disney and Warner Brothers with. you're not wrong though Winter Brothers could win it again I mean not win it again but could win it this year yeah it's true okay Kenneth Coulton hey six weeks in theaters and 684 million worldwide

June 2 comes out digital this week not a big physical media but I had to get both 4K steelbooks from Amazon happy Monday yeah that one I made sure because they send out the press release for that one I reached out I was like I need that one please Mike Joy I was sent down by Washington, D.C. to see what kind of American can be profitable for Frito Lay.

Why is film Twitter obsessed with Jesse Plymins? I don't know if I... Well, Jesse Plyton was great. He was great. Yeah, but they're implying that he's like, he's over... They always come after Jesse for his weight, and it's so frustrating because it's such a fucking great actor. And they're implying that he's like, you know, he'd look like a kind of guy who would be overweight playing this kind of kid. It's so ridiculous.

He's terrifying. Yeah. Terrifying and Breaking Bad and he was terrifying in this. And he's such an amazing actor that he can turn it on its head and then make himself lovable and likable, like in that movie, even though he was a bit of a weirdo in the movie, what's the game night? Game night. Oh, my God.

It was hilarious. Game night. He was great. And he was, you know, and he was definitely, you know, the good guy in Killers of the Flower Moon. Ah, yeah, fair point. So he's really, he's a, he's a phenomenal actor. Yeah. I like him.

Oh, oh, oh, sorry. sorry, people are saying the Frito-Lay thing is a joke from Game Night, so apparently we haven't watched Game Night enough, I mean,

Christian, to get it. Oh, okay. My bad, y'all. I thought it was... Something else? You could comment on the wait all the time. Oh, okay.

No, so I guess not. Justin Fountain. Personally, I really enjoyed the fallout show. It encapsulates the spirit and overall essence, the game series was its characters, and overall world building. Yeah,

I mean, so I'm, like I said, I'm super excited about it, man. I want to see the rest of it. I'm going to watch it. What I am going to do, though,

is, um, what I am going to do is, is like finish up three body problem. Then I'm going to finish fall out. And then I'll have to do the, when I find the damn time, I,

because I want to do, I do want to do Shogun during, like, when I have, like, a break in time because this, Mondays and Wednesdays are my busiest days. Like,

I don't, I can't, like Tuesdays, Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays, I have more time to potentially watch. Yeah.

The show and then put it up. So we'll see. I'm trying to do weekends. So I have like Mondays and Wednesdays off. I'm trying to do weekends. Well, the only problem with weekends is that are people watching on the weekends? I mean,

our geek buddy show is almost 8,000 or 7,000 views. And we just dropped it at 9 a.m. yesterday. And that's a pretty quick amount of views to get. So I find good reactions on Sundays for my stuff. Jedi Way's done well on Sundays as well. Yeah. I get lucky. All right.

This is Felix, The sound in Civil War was amazing. The sound was amazing. I agree with you, by the way. For the most part, I love the music, but there were a couple times when I'm like that bad song choice and it's just sucking right out of the movie. I will say this. I read an article in Slash Film where the person was complaining about how loud the film was.

That's the effing point. It's supposed to unsettle you, make you messed up, rattle you inside. When did filmgoers become so goddamn sensitive? don't understand. Certain films are going to mess you up. Yeah, fair point. Films are supposed to mess you up, certain films about certain topics. This film being loud, and Alex came out and said

he did this on purpose because he didn't like the way that gun violence is actually depicted in films. He wanted to show what it would really sound like and how loud a weapon actually is in real life when you hear it. So that's jarring. The whole world is too sensitive. I saw somebody, what's, it was

announced Generation Z. Is that what it is? Yeah, Gen Z. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, we recently watched Sex and the City and there's a lot of problems with that show. It's like, shut up. It's like, what are you, we going to watch all in the family next? Yeah, yeah, you're right. And not get the point in all in the family.

Shut up. It's like, and then there's also the other thing with like freaking, like three's company. Like, yeah, like there's no world. Like, by the way, if you went back, if you went back and watch Marrying with children right now, that person's head would spin off their body and land on the moon. Yeah. Like, it is one of the best shows ever, but it is about as politically incorrect as you're going to get.

So the, it was the idea that, you know what? We can take a joke and we can laugh at everything. No, there's no world where you watch, you watch one episode of Marriard with Children. The fact that the show is loud on the air back then was interesting.

That show is absolutely. It's one of my favorite shows of all time. Yeah. I love that show. I know. I agree. I love that show, too. Shea Markell,

looks like Christian's been brown-nosing. Thank you. Happy birthday, family. I love this show. And you guys are great. Thanks, Shaq. That's a very time. You appreciate it. Yes. I mean, look, this is the thing when you have kids. And especially when it's moving. They're both arguing who, because they both wanted me to take them to school this morning. Like, the oldest wanted me to take her because I take her to Starbucks to get her in the morning. I get her the breakfast sandwich. And the little one's like, come on. I want to pretend that I'm, we're in the lava.

and I'm doing it and I'm going through the forest. And I'm like, all right, let's just get the hell out of the house. How about that? Sammo is probably before we talked about it. But have you guys watched a Fallout show? Yes, and we will continue to watch it for sure. Yep. Okay.

Ghostbusters are shitting the bed, is it? Yeah, it's only made 160 million worldwide. And it's completely like, no diving. And it was made for 100 million. So that's kind of a failure. It's not great. Yeah. That's too bad. I like that movie.

Yeah. Mike Choice, you're going to see a Sasquatch sunset? I heard good things about that movie, surprisingly enough. But no, I'm not going to see it. Is that the Jesse? No. I don't know. It's about the Sasquatch family.

I don't know. I don't know. Matt Sinister McCall sent this super in the bathroom while at work and didn't tell my boss. Hoping one out. Any tips for writers on a routine? I've written a book and would like to try a screenplay. I mean, look, it's like,

practice, practice, practice like anything else, too, right? I remember what, and I guess it's easier nowadays than it was back in the day with the programs that they have and the things you can set up. But I would just say if you're going to convert your book or just block out, whatever you're going to block out and just take a shot at writing the script and make sure you do have to follow the idea of minute per page.

And, you know, you get to 120 pages. that's a two-hour movie. So just keep that in mind. Yeah. So, okay. Armada, what's going to make more money? Furiosa or apes? Apes. Moad down.

You want to go another one? You're already going to owe me money. Not money, but... No way that thing was crossing a billion. I'll say Furiosa. Yeah, I'll say, just to be counter. I'll say Furiosa. I actually think it's going to be a better film than apes,

and I think people are going to be... That's a different conversation. That's a different conversation. It's going to affect the box office. Are we doing, you want to go double or nothing? All right, double or nothing. So two steak dinners? Two steak dinners.

You're only saying that. Well, look, no, wait, one steak dinner because that's a bigger, the Deadpool thing is a bigger thing. So I'll get you a chicken dinner for. How about, you know, how about a lunch? No, you know, you know, we'll do, we'll do a, we'll do a, we'll do a, we'll do a, we'll do a, we'll do a, we'll do a, we'll do a, we'll do a, we'll do an olive garden bet. So the billion dollars for Deadpool, and that's a steak dinner. This is why we do this on the air because this weasels try to get out of his bet. This guy.

Every minute I know is Christian. And then so the, so this bet is that apes on its run will do better than Furiosa. We should clarify. Domestically, globally, what do we, what do we say? Overall. We'll say globally. Overall, global, globally. Yeah, I just think it's, I just think that Furiosa.

Furiosa is a little bit, and so is Man Max, because what did Man Max do? That's what I'm, that's Mad Max. Yeah, Fury Road. You made $2.5 billion. $5 billion? No, it did not. Fury Road.

Let's see, what was it, box office, Mojum. Yeah, go to box. Let's see what it did. It made, because I remember I won, I won the bet from these other, from everybody, like 379, it's not bad. It made $3.80.

It made $150,000. three domestically. Now, now apes, let's see what the last apes did. Okay, war of the planet the game. It was an underperformer. That's why they redid it. Okay, so war of the planet of the apes, which is the last one. Four of the, yeah. You made almost 500 million. You're going to lose. It's close. You're going to lose. You're right. Okay. See what a budget too, surprising. Gallagost, Civil War and Fallout. Good week for post-opocalyptic fans, for real. My question both of you, what is your favorite of Garland's work? My favorite is sunshine. Cheers. I mean, it's ex-Magna.

Yeah. Yeah. That movie's just, it's probably his, that's his Mona Lisa. Yeah, that's a fucking great movie, man. It's really good. I saw people try to go after him as a creator. I'm like, you are idiots, man. And I thought he was, and this is a good one.

If you're going to step off the court, this is a good one to step off the court. Oh, yeah. Agreed. Jay West, would you, Oroka interview Bo DeMeo about X-Men or stay away from interviewing him because of the controversy? I mean, my question to his reps would be, Am I allowed to bring up, you know, the controversy? If not, I don't think I want to, because I don't like doing that. I had an actor on once, I was, it was on one-on-one with Christian Harlov.

And the, and the actor walked in, and I said to them, I don't know if I told you the story. And I said, before we start going, is there anything that's off the table that I cannot bring up? And they looked at me and they said, no, bring up whatever you want. Okay, great. Yeah, you always got to ask. So I'm in the middle of my interview, and I'm asking this person, the question. So let me ask you a question. Because we have a great rapport or laughing the whole time.

I said, what was this whole thing about? And the PR rep comes over and goes, no, no, no, stop, stop. And I'm like, don't stop my fucking. I'm like, you can tell me afterwards. We're not live. Right. You can tell me afterwards that we want to cut that out. We'd rather you not air that.

And because we have a good relationship, of course, I'm going to cut it out. I never run. If someone says to me, they want you to cut it out, I cut it out. I don't want to cause a bad relationship, but don't stop the interview and go, no, no, you got to stop. I'm like, who you're not the producer of the show. You're a fucking publicist. Cut it out. Great public. You could cut it out. I had the same situation with Gavin Hood when I was doing deep cut over there at Collider. I locked doors now when we did stuff in the studio because I didn't want a publicist coming.

And that publicist, I had 20 minutes of Gavin Hood telling me what his actual experience was like directing an Wolverine film and what he went through. you told me yeah and they told me to cut afterwards he was like screaming at me and i was like i'm gonna cut it who was screaming who was screaming the publicist was yeah the publicist was from paramed and i was i'm gonna keep it but i'll cut it but i'm gonna keep it you know because you respect that but yeah trying to stop the interview trying to knock on the door and let stop it it's like you say like you know we have a good relationship at all but i'm not gonna not ask the question because that's the whole point so to answer your question yes i would absolutely want to bring that up um so it says van dam about the milk and That was my favorite.

I can't, I still, because you got to remember that Roca and Broca, Ellis and McCougar were such diehard Vand-Aam fans, as was I. Yeah. They were expecting like a whole trip down memory lane with his movies. And the second I started talking this guy, I'm like, that ain't what we're getting, guys. Nope, nope. We're getting Mars to Venus. We're getting, we're getting everything but.

And I was like, you watch me, I'm wide-eyed the whole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're fascinated. I was fascinated. I was like, just take me on. And he said, do you want some milk? I said, yes. I said, do you want some cookies?

I said, do you want some green card? I said, do you want your green card? I said, do you have your green card? Oh, good. Mike Joyce, if you became an immortal ghoul like Walton in Fallout, how would you spend your time in the apocalypse? Probably trying to fix my face. Hey, that guy's face.

Yeah, I don't know. What about you? That same, I'd have been him. Yeah. He's a cowboy, 80? I would do the exact same thing. You would have done that. Okay, we keep going here. We got Alex 16-16.

Hey, what's up, Christian and Roker? I hope you guys are doing good. Thank you. Question, what do you guys think of Jake Gyllenhaal saying he would love to play Batman in the DCU? Personally, I love it. How about you guys? I see Roker kind of tilting his head a little bit. I would prefer Jensen Eccles.

I think he would be fantastic. but my but I wouldn't I wouldn't be I wouldn't be against it I wouldn't be against it I like I like John Hall a lot yeah I mean I wouldn't have been against it in the previous regime but I don't think gun is going to do it he's going to go young he wants you know the age appropriate corn and sweat who's ever run corn sweats age that's who's going to look at so I in no way do I think they're going to go with an older guy like gillen hall it just doesn't make sense because they've got so much history of the Batman to tell that I don't think they would just bring in someone who's like almost 50 so I just don't think it would make sense right um all right galagost thank you man

absolutely agree weekly it's better do you think the bear season three will go weekly even though season one and season two was under the binge um probably not they're probably going to say they're going to stay consistent I wish that they would that's a show I definitely wish would be yeah I love that that that show what and because look you're going to have that you're going to have acolyte you're going to have house of the dragon that's all in june right yeah yeah yeah that's that's that's week to week and so that's going to be interesting acolyte i don't know if it's week to week or if it is i believe it's week to week it's only eight episodes yeah okay so that's week to week um but a half an hour episode's stupid um and then house of the dragon hour long episodes only week to week

week to week the bear all dropped in one day and then there's one other show that comes out in june something big i can't remember what it was um i wonder speaking of this like what is the conversation you know what's the water cooler show and i'm gonna say it's gonna be a house of the dragon oh yeah 100 yeah uh pete parker 2288 really into it civil war you think it has any chance of the oscars makes me want to see garland do more action because that last battle wow no i think it's too early think that there's not enough it was it was an in-depth movie but not the kind of in-depth for academy awards as far as the word stuff yeah it's not what i was punch you in the hard type movies yeah which is crazy i know i know but no if he had depicted the civil war from both

sides i think you're talking i haven't another conversation right because he kept it about these four journalists uh and photographers i think it keeps it from becoming a best picture nominee yeah i had i said that at one point i was like i was journalist i don't photographer and then whatever it's photo journal whatever it was called and someone goes no it's not that either one it's this and I wrote who cares yeah people try to correct you right now who cares so you know good for you yeah good for you the boy season four that's in June that's it that's week to week that's week that's week to week well that's week too that's an amazon that's week to week yep true very true francisco lopez what tv genres should be suitable for binge watching for me it's

sitcom comedy, but show like drama, thriller, sci-fi could be weekly show. I mean, if it's not, you know, if it's just kind of, what's the word, where it's, it's, it's, it's not connected. It's just, it's, oh, yeah, yeah, it's not a, yeah, right. You know, whatever it is. If it's, if it's, if it doesn't play into the next week, it just, you know, like Simpsons or whatever it might be, you want to binge them all one shot, like it doesn't want to the next, fine. But like when it, when it's all, when you're building up and you want to get people talking about your show. Yeah, what's that. It's not. It's not. serialized is what you're trying to say. Yeah, I think so, yeah. I don't understand. That was hilarious. You just said serialized. It heard you. Say it again.

Serialized. No, it didn't work that time. It was just the eye. Yeah, with Francisco, again, this idea of what genres. No, again, you're generalizing. It has to be show by show. There are certain shows in every genre that should be weekly and certain shows in every genre that should be a binge.

So it's different. Armada, do you think we'll ever get any more S&L movies? I'll tell you what. Yeah. Peacock should be doing original S&L movies because they're not going to play in the theater. Those movies, unless you make them for like $5 or $10 million and you want to take a shot with comedies, the day of the $50, $60 million, $100 million comedies is about as big of a risk as you can take. So why Peacock isn't making original Saturn and Alive movies, I have no idea. They did that Please Don't Destroy Movie, but, you know, it didn't.

do well and it didn't get a lot of attention but there are how many characters have you seen over the last few years that you'd want to see a movie from that's the thing that i kind of hesitate about you know yeah um Carlton rudder good evening from the UK what's that man I love fallout I'm on episode five John did you manage to finish watching this weekend Christian did you how did you manage to start it yet I did I did I did start episode one but um but John you did you finish whatever is it no I had a busy weekend there's a lot going on this weekend. I went to see Civil War, did my review, had a lot of stuff going on. So I did not get a chance to see it. The car shopping right now. The BMF fight was insane. I'm telling you, dude. It was insane. It was insane. I've never seen any, I've never seen an ending to a fight like that ever. I've never seen anything like that. It was incredible.

Yeah, but someone's right. So they said that's why the fight was so good by the ending. Because the ending is incredible. But it's the fight itself is just awesome all from start to finish. Okay. And the ending made it even better, like even better. Like the fact, it was like, it's like you're watching an incredible movie, like one of the best movies you've ever seen. Right. And it just has an incredible ending also. It was one of the most, it was one of the best fights I've ever seen.

Okay. Mike Joyce, good idea to remake scary movies. Spoof movies are dead. Yeah, I think it's kind of, I think it missed it kind of, you know, that at this point is kind of missed its mark. Those types, again, it's the same thing. Common is right now. Yeah.

Or not why people are going to movie theaters. Well, Japanese are making. They're making a comeback. We'll have to see. We'll have to see if they do. Because they're getting greenlit. There are more comedies being greenlit coming out of cinema con from these announcements. So we will see. But there's a there's been a lot of successful horror over the last few years. So there's a lot of horror to make fun of. I think if it's going to work, you've got to find someone like Anna Ferris. Are you going to find another Anna Ferris that's going to be able to carry you movie to

movie and make it interesting or else it'll come off looking like something that should go straight to DVD. It depends on what you're going to do also when you talk about comedies. Like when you're talking about like, you know, anyone but you, which was a successful comedy because it costs $13 in the snicker bar and then made a profit. You know, and that's how you have to make comedies. If you're making comedies that way, make a shot. Yeah. Don't make 50, 60, 70 million dollars comedies. They are not working and they're not going to turn your profit right now. That's fair. George. Did you guys see the latest article about Dan Lynn and Netflix?

I didn't. Is he going to further ruin Netflix or could he be its savior? I like Dan Lynn. I knew Dan Lynn in my time at Warner Brothers. I was like Dan Lynn. I had a friend who worked for Dan Lynn for a long time. And then Dan Lynn was going to was remember before James Gun came in, that's who they said was going to run DC. Dan Lynn's a very smart guy.

I didn't see the article itself, so I don't know what they're going to say. And I don't know what his approach is going to be. but Dan Lynn's a good dude. So I root for Dan. Yeah, it's in the New York Times this morning, basically saying that he's going to make a more varied slate of movies to appeal to the array of interests among subscribers. So yeah, why not?

Gallagos, also good luck and congrats on the move. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. Yeah, we're excited. Let's see if there's any more that are coming in. I think that there are. Felix. Same question.

Do you think that Civil War can get any Oscar noms? Sound maybe? Yeah. but that would be interesting if they're going to do it. I don't know. Did you wind up, you saw that picture of Saul in WrestleMania. Oh my God. Yeah, he's hilarious. He actually sent me the picture

as well as a DM on Twitter and said, you think I don't look Scottish? I didn't say it. I didn't say he doesn't look Scottish. I said he's never thought of him as Scottish. No, when you hear his voice, he sounds like you should be in Goodfellas. Yeah, he should be spitting me a pie in New York. P.m. 2288. Time window for the movie before summer.

the move the move when you move moves moves the movie is what movie they're talking about um yeah probably in in the area of that i'm gonna we're gonna go try to set up the studio first and that's why we put that amazon list out there too we're doing we're putting all this stuff in there ourselves but we're also doing like uh anything that we can get put into the studio first and then move in the family probably in summer yeah um which is gonna be what's this hilarious because people were like well is that going to change the uh the dynamic of the shows i only do do three shows that are in studio. You're meaning you are virtual. The UIP show for the most part has been virtual. The other three have been in studio. I'm doing one studio show with Matt

Sarah. So that's that's in studio. So that so there's really only two. And then we'll be, we'll be doing, we'll be doing the shows, you know, I'm going to have the same crew on virtual. So it's and because this, this is the only show I do on stream yard and I might even eliminate the stream yard element of it all. We'll probably just go back to OBS because even when I'm talking over, I can hear sometimes the sound on streamerrard is so bad. I, I hate streamyard. I hate it. It's just so easy to do the super chat and everything over there too. And there's another way to do it through OBS and the quality will, John's got a really good camera. My camera's really good too. So like when it comes to like it distorts the quality a little bit too.

OBS, I'm going to try to change it up for our show. But you won't even notice it. And the sound and especially if you're listening on podcast form, you won't even notice it. uh met bull there he is any thoughts on a w airing c m punk footage i wrote it to i i wrote to i i'm glad you brought that up because i wanted to talk about that um brad gilmore wrote about it how he thought it was such a bad move and i wrote it is the definition of a piker move it was such a horrible move and shows you that this guy has no clue what he's doing because like at that point you're you're you run the test you run the test and you're like okay you know what we're going to air this footage and everyone even people even your fans are going don't do that

don't do that and you don't listen and you do it you don't have any sound on the footage so it looks like everything the punk said on air hall on his show was factual went up you don't know what he's saying so you're going to take the benefit of the doubt is that he went up and he shoved them and like you know there is this thing that people are like well you're shoving a co-worker they're wrestlers oh for fuck said Vince McMahon got knocked out by Brett Hart. Yeah. I mean, you know,

what are in fear for his life? Talk about. Look about people being too sensitive. I saw those comments as well. People are like, it's a coworker.

You're supporting toxicity. First of all, grow the fuck up. Second of all, understand what you're talking about, which is this is pro wrestling. Man, people have fought each other all the time in the back of pro wrestling.

And that is part of the situation. That happens all the time. Happens in sports as well. People fight on NFL fields. People punch each other in hockey. People punch each other in a baseball. all, that's the game. No one gets arrested. No one gets put in fucking jail. That is the game. Okay. And when you're watching that video, first of all, the video has no audio, which is a big, massive mistake as well.

Second of all, it looks very clearly that everything punk said pretty much aligns up to what you see in the video. I saw people like lay down when punk told Eril Hawani in time to what you were seeing in the video and you're like, seeing they started pulling footage. Then they started pulling people who was clipping out and they started like doing copyright strikes. So why are you putting it out in the first place? And then the British, I think the British Broadcasting Network came after him because he was supposed to get permission from all these different markets in order to post the footage. So he even fucked up on that end. And this is, but the thing is this guy is a multi-billionaire because of his dad's money and his own stuff. So he, I mean, making these mistakes, I guess

doesn't bother him, but it stains everybody. Like Mercedes is stained by this, who just got there, Edge is stained, all spray is stained. All these guys are stained and the young box is fuck themselves, but everyone else. Who is the guy that was given the interview to Renee and started taking shots at Chibald. Will Osprey, who was a British guy who only people know inside of wrestling. What a dummy.

What a dummy? It's like, thinking about the guy who runs the biggest fucking federation. Think about your future job. What happens when that thing is gone? What a dummy? That was a dumb. That was a dumb move. Even Renee was like, like,

yeah. All right. Al Rensha. Amazing that Godzilla and Kong is the least expensive movie in a monster verse and it might be the best shows that you don't always need to spend 200 million yes yes it costs like 120 or something and that's and because they got Rebecca black right now Rebecca black she's the singer Rebecca uh what's what's her all yeah Rebecca Hall Rebecca Black Friday it's Friday Friday gonna get down on Friday um she would have been great in that movie I think so too yeah but uh no sir Rebecca Hall is she great actress didn't

didn't probably cost a lot. Same thing, Dan Stevens, great actor, didn't cost too much, and they didn't need to spend that much. They just had the monkey and the lizard fight, do things, and that's it. Yeah. All right, Armada. Do you think it would be too expensive to adapt invincible as a live action movie, plus all the gore?

I mean, no, it's, you can do a movie like that. I mean, look at Chronicle, right? Chronicle made people fly and look realistic. that movie costs nothing you can do that on a smaller scale and you can make it look real and do practical effects that it's the question is do they does it take away their tone by taking away from the kind of comic coming right off the page type thing from them and i still have only seen a few episodes of invisible liked it a lot but but um i don't know yeah yeah what do you think do you think they could adapt it invincible to live action yeah yes but again it's all about casting it's all about who's

involved and it's all about how much money they're going to have to create because you're going onto multiple worlds and invincible. And you're going out into space multiple times. So that's going to be, you can do the grounded one, sure, but if you're going to tell the whole story, you're going to have to go to a lot of different things.

I got to watch the issue. A lot of money. Martin Rudder, great to hear that they have season. They have greenlit season two of Monarch. Yeah, I mean, that's another show I need to watch.

They got spinoffs as well. Armada, Pump for Tulsa King returning this fall. Is it actually returning? Yes. Oh, she's right now. Yeah, wondering when the old man is coming back. I'm not true.

Have you heard Kalanowski's imitation of Bridges on that show? Oh, that's great. He did it on. He did it on the show. Okay. Yeah, but we, yeah, Tulsa King is going to be, so you wrote me and you're like,

I don't know if I can support Stallone yet. I'm like, we don't know. I text or said, what do you think about this is what I said. But you did, you did. But you said if it was true, I don't know if you could split. And that's the thing is that like,

I don't do that thing anymore. And that's saying you do, but I don't do that thing anymore where people will go, oh, you know what? Look at this. Look out. I was like, no, I don't know what else happened. I don't know if this person.

I didn't feed it out. I knew. I was like, wait for it to see what happens. You see what happens. Because who knows if people are disgruntled? Who knows if somebody wanted money? Who knows if it's legit? We don't know yet.

So I don't know what the reports are yet on the Tulsa King. But as far as the actual show itself, yes, I am excited to see season two. I like season one a lot. So Grillo is coming on in season two. So Frank Grillo being a part of season two is going to be exciting. I'm excited. Oh, is Frank Grillo on season two? Yeah, he announced him on his Instagram.

Oh, that's great. Carlton Rudder, could Jesse Plymins be the next Seymour Hoffman? Well, I know what you're saying. There's only one Seymour, Philips Seaman. Good point. But yes, he is that kind of quality actor or that caliber of actor that is just, every time he shows up, you know you're getting a good performance. Yeah, that's it.

Michael Green. Adam Schetford is reporting that slap fighting will be in the next Olympics. Who would like to slap the hell out of John and Chris? John and Chris. Who would you like? Who would like to slap down? What? I don't know that that is. But, but slap slap, slap, that can't be right. Have you seen the slap league? I've seen the face from Dana White is. I've seen it, but they can't. I hope not. I can't. That can't, that can't be part. That's physical injury on purpose. That's, that to me, like, that's, that's the difference. That was always the argument with MMA when boxing is, I was a big boxing fan for a very

long time. But the reason why there's so much brain damage and so much cause to the head is because the majority, yes, you can punch to the body, but the majority of it is two people standing toe to toe for 12 rounds, 10 rounds going after the head. In MMA, you're going for tapouts. You're going, you know, you're going for the threat. You're going for the, these different things that like it's yeah there are knockouts and these other things too but it's not the overall objective so there was always a kind of this is just someone standing there and letting you hit me in the face as hard as you can there's no defense nothing else too i i don't get this one i don't get it is i'm not going to tell you that i haven't stopped and watched footage from it

but yeah i don't know that's supporting the olympics though that's yeah no it shouldn't be the olympics yeah yeah um okay let's have a couple left i think um rene rayus hey how do you you guys feel about the john snow show being canceled personally i'm mad they need to bring justice to that character i we talked about it the other day on the show it's um it's a bummer but what i will say is that it i i give them props if they look at it in the same way that they had that um naomi watch show yeah yep and they said not working don't tarnish the brand if it ain't working don't just put something out there because i want to see it too i like john snow a lot is my favorite character but if it ain't there don't push it yeah

Yeah. I'm a house of dragon took forever. Yep. Get up there and they wanted to make sure it was a damn good one. Unless they were going to ruin the brand even more. And they didn't want to do that. So I like that they've been very particular and picky about what they want to create there with the House of Dragon stuff. All right. That's it.

That's it. That's it. All right. So, John, thanks for joining me here today, man. We'll be back obviously next week. But what else? What do you got going on today? What's tomorrow?

I might go live later on today. I'm kind of in a mood. I'm kind of in a prickly mood. there's a lot of news going on. I might go live later on at 5 o'clock today for an episode of the nation. Have some fun doing that. But we've got definitely Shogun review tomorrow with me and Steve for episode 9. It's going to be a lot of fun. The X-Men newest episode is going to pop off. So the geek buddy is going to talk about that as well. Might have a fallout review coming up the next couple of days with the geek buddies, which will be a lot of fun. GeekBuddy stuff coming up later on this week as well. More reviews,

reactions. As Kristen said, Ministry of Gentlemanly Warfare, I'm going to do my out of theater reaction tomorrow night, Abigail Wednesday night, so all that stuff happening. Head on over to my channel, YouTube.com slash John Roka says, see all the stuff that's going down over there. Before you go, we got Haskell, Haskell got solo solo broke Hayman's phone.

Heyman was so freaked out by the son of Hakku. That's right. Hakku's another reason why I love Hakku. He stepped up on the bottom rope. The Bloodline Civil War is coming. Yes, so he's excited. He's excited about that. We talked about it for a little bit, Haskell. I know you came in a little late, but we're excited about that for sure. All right, everybody.

John, thank you, brother. We'll see you. Thank you, guys, for joining us here today on the show. Apple Podcasts, Spotify. I'm going to put the, I always put the sponsors in the list there, too. Thank you so much. We have Patreon. We do all that stuff.

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