The Kristian Harloff Show - Daredevil Born Again taking the series back to it's dark roots says star Charlie Cox.

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

In this video, Kristian Harloff reacts to the exciting news that Daredevil: Born Again is taking the series back to its dark, gritty roots, according to star Charlie Cox! Daredevil was one of Marvel's most popular shows on streaming, known for its raw, Rated R tone, and intense action. Fans were understandably upset when rumors spread that Marvel Studios would lighten up the series for Disney Plus. But that has changed! The show will now be a continuation of the Netflix series, and Cox promises it will be as dark as before. We also dive into the latest box office news, including how Smile 2 claimed the top spot while Joker 2 slipped from the top 5. Plus, Gladiator 2 had its first screenings—what are people saying about it? Catch all this and more with Kristian and Rocha as they cover the latest in the MCU, celebrity news, and entertainment. #DaredevilBornAgain #MCU #Marvel #CharlieCox #DaredevilReaction #MarvelStudios #ComicBooks #MarvelPhase #Deadpool #Wolverine #BoxOffice #Joker2 #mcu #marvel #daredevil #daredevilbornagain #ratedr #boxoffice #joker #joker2 OUR SPONSORS: PERFECT JEAN:  Podcast Description,  F*%k your khakis and get The Perfect Jean 15% off with the code BIGTHING at http://www.theperfectjean.nyc/BIGTHING15 #theperfectjeanpod If you are looking to take your game to the next level, visit http://www.TRYJOYMODE.COM and use code BIGHTHING at checkout for 20 percent off. That's T-R-Y-J-O-Y-M-O-D-E.com and use code BIGTHING  for 20 percent off your first order. MANDO: Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code BIGTHING at http://www.shopmando.com! #mandopod 

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Cummins is a registered trademark of Cummins Inc. Graham and Hemmy are registered trademarks of FCAUS LLC. Charlie Cox pretty much confirms that we're getting a darker Deadpool. No, we got a Deadpool already. Don't worry about that one. But he confirmed it and he was right because it came out and it wasn't very dark. So he was wrong. There's a lot of things I was wrong about. I was wrong about some things on my math test. I wasn't good at math. So I did other things. Tons other things. I started a juggle once.

It was a joke I used to do all the time that I liked and he's telling people like a and I would just throw things into the air and let it crash on the floor and walk away. So you take that and you shove it in your hat. That's what you do. If you eat too much pizza, you get fat. So throw it around. See the clown? Hey man.

You ever paint the town? That's what we talk about in this show. So Charlie Cox was talking about Daredevil. He said that it's going to be dark. He confirmed it. And there's other things. Why my wife continuously won't leave me alone about this. freaking futon so we'll uh we'll get into it it's me and roka it's the show now you know

that's the wrong freaking thing too great it's good good day perfect i love it good good just great stuff going on here welcome back ladies and gentlemen moving grooving everything's going great welcome back how you doing john good weekend good good stuff I'm right I'm right I have fun with this. I ride with you, man, wherever you're going. Fun little tangents you go on.

Cool. The Yankees did good. Speaking of the show, hello. Did you watch the game? Were you watching when Soto hit that shot? Soto, man. Soto jumped up.

He was, dude, he was, he reminded me of you when you were playing in the Shmodown when you were on your tear, like the way that you just like staring, like when you're staring down, Bibbiani or standing like, you see he was just messing with that.

with the pitcher dude he's just like kind of like okay i'm like he's like i'm all over it i'm all over it and he just like stalked him it was crazy so uh it was hilarious is that yeah i figure it was game it was game three when they lost the game um sam levin was texting me throughout the game like when they came back he's like how great are these guys and i'm like yeah it's it's going good it's going good and then they it's like two strikes in the ninth and i had to pause the game for a second because i had to take the dog but oh my god i'm like i'm not going to check my phone or anything too and then my phone dings I'm like well if it's Sam that means that they won and he keeps

on going and it is Sam and I'm like okay so I'm at least check it and I'll have to rewind and watch how they want I'm bummed out I have to do it but he's like sorry I jinxed I'm like you son of a bitch so and they went up losing that game and I said to Sam I go he actually said it to me he goes yeah I'm not going to text anymore until it's over I go please

and then so the next day they win and he texts me afterwards and I said let's keep this trend and and we wind up doing it so So it's, but they won that one. And then the poor Mets, I was hoping that the Mets were going to win. It really was.

Like, no disrespect to the Guardians and the Mets. Their fans were like, oh, we got you this year, Dodgers and Yankees. Don't you count us out, Cinderella story, team of destiny. Let me tell you something. When you've got teams that are this stacked, destiny means nothing. And clearly it showed throughout this series on both sides what they were able to do, the Dodgers and the, and the, you know what's crazy too, the Dodgers and the Yanks. they both are the highest paid

salaries and baseball rosters overall, but they both think they're underdogs, which is so weird. But hey, they grabbed onto it. That's their approach. Well, I'm mad at Derek Jeter right now,

and I love Jeter. It's probably my favorite second, second favorite Yankee of all time next to Mattingly. And he, you know, did you see that they should, they showed predictions that Arodd picked the Dodgers versus the Yankees with the Yankees win in seven.

This was before when the playoffs started. and and Derek Jeter took the the Phillies and the Orioles bastard that's weird yeah I know he's just trying to like not look like a like a you know company man but it's a buddy come on DJ get your shit together

the other thing is I know you can relate to this if I have to hear about a futon one more time I'm gonna smash my head there's a food my wife wants to get a futon she wants to get this because there was a thing you guys back in college what is no it's a food it's for the it's for the guest room we would guess for in my like you know it's a nice a nice futon that you people that went up crash in there like

they can just fold it out it's in the office all right and they crash out on it and they crash out on it and so like it's she's like I want to get this futon to the thing I'm like do we need to get it now is no one never will be staying with us and like my oldest has been staying in in the in the room because the youngest it gets sick and they try to separate them and and and the other one we had and they're broke so I'm like okay you know just just get it I'm like just get it and she's 57 texts about futons and where to get it from. I go what color to get? I'm trying to figure out Charlie Cox talking about Daredevil right now. We're talking about futons.

Turquoise, beige, she's giving me shit because I spelled beige wrong because the auto spell. It's like the whole thing. It's like it's a thing. Honey, I'm trying to do important things here. No, yeah. What are we talking about? The futon. So anyway, we have a lot to discuss. and we have these things in new york comic con i didn't get a chance to go i was hoping to go um you know i had i was supposed to go to josh harwood's thing oh yeah and had to cancel the last minute because again my dude it's that's so you're lucky you don't have kids it's like they get sick every five

seconds they go into school and um so yeah people get nail over here couldn't do it again and then um but the good news is that because of that i found a good burger spot here that i've been looking we've been looking for a burger spot is a good good spot it's a good one just found a burger spot it was good yummy taste it in him I don't want to tell anybody that. No one needs to know. What was I going to tell you? Oh, you know what's hilarious is that Matthew Lillard came on the show.

And I, yeah, he's, shaggy. He was in, he was in studio. He came in and he came in. He could have taken a train and been here 35 minutes, but he took a car at 3.30 in the afternoon from Manhattan, and it took him two hours and 10 minutes to get here. And it was hilarious in the way that he responded to it. But you'll see you'll see that on Wednesday.

Anyway, yeah, we can get into this trial. Let me ask you some. Yeah, go on. He's tall. Yeah, he's tall. He's not heard it. He's tall. Well, he came in. He was there. He was, weren't you there when he came into Clyde Alive? No, I don't think I was there that day.

Or if he did, I just was like working. He's working or something about. Yeah, he came in. He was great. He's a great guy. He's very, he's very funny. Very, I'll tell you, for very inspirational story he tells when I asked him about the descendants.

Well, it's funny because my head was mush by the time he got there. And I was like, listen, what's how about? I don't think anybody talks you about it. I know, like you're in. It's great. And I'm thinking Alexander Payne. I sit sideways, right? And he goes, he's like, well, I wasn't in that.

And he goes, I'll help you out. Descendants. And he's like, I shouldn't help you out. She'll just sit in it for making me be in the car for two hours. So I was like, I know where you're going with it. I was like, I get descendants. Same direct. But he told a great story about getting the descendants.

Oh, wow. And it's very inspirational on how he got that. So I look forward to having people check that out. That's going to be on Wednesday. So, you know, I was going to dive into this story about Charlie Cox. But I saw you did the show Winston, on the other day and you guys are talking about the spill of tequila and you guys are doing the cynthia rivo stuff and i saw your take on it and i think that everybody seems to be on the

same thing it's like look the first thing that i heard about it that i didn't even i didn't follow the full story at first and now i'm right up on it but when at first it was i thought that it was more so about the because there was people doing like sexual like you know green private part stuff and that's disgusting that's hard that's the 10 year old thing by the way but that stuff in general right like if anything like that anything sexual anything racist anything like that and this you have every then go after do what you got to do going after fans doing fan art no matter even if you're heard about it is the wrong way to go because these are the people these people these people that are on your team like you can you can make a you can make a statement like oh you know it bums me out because my face was

hidden the whole point i wanted to get my eyes out there but i see what they're doing they're trying to pay homage to the actual the art and these are massive fans and they're not erasing me from the thing they're just they're just emulating the thing that they love from before and they're and it's still ours is still out there i think she handled it terribly yeah terribly yeah you know i'm one of these people that initially will always be like okay look i get whether you know i think what they're saying is correct but in this situation especially when it comes to you know people of color or black people like getting erased i think there are valid concerns and valid complaints to make in certain situations, this doesn't feel like it. I know, Chris, I think you're 100% right. The response was more, hey, I get what they were going

for, but I also want them to be aware that this also kind of conjures this for me or can conjure this for those of us who've worked really hard to be seen in this industry, kind of erases us a little. There was no malice behind at all, at all. Can you imagine? I think. I think she has more credibility in the A, I think. But the posters themselves, that was just a, homage to the original poster that's all they even changed her hand glinda's hand to cover her face more so you saw lots of ariana grande in that shot so yeah it's unfortunate i get cynthia's point but i think it was the wrong place to make the point i think it i think it was just handled wrong i think it was just said wrong because imagine it's like and i don't know who did it i don't know who

did the art itself imagine it's like some 13 year old you know kid who's doing photoshop and sends it out to a star going oh look what i did also because i'm so excited and then you just completely destroyed this person's love for this thing and hurt them in general for what they're trying to do. And it's like, I think you can say there are versions of this. And I see what, that's, that's the point is that if it was done, if they got rid of her and made her a different person, and it wasn't her face. And it was like, you know, they said, we don't like the casting of Cynthia. We were put someone else we thought was a better casting. And this is our version of it with the thing. Then she's going to go, well, what are you doing? Why are you trying? This is

something I worked really hard on. What are you trying to, but that's not what happened here. was just someone going, this is a beloved, it's not hers, by the way. She was cast in this role. This is a beloved, this is a beloved theater presentations have been going on for years, years. And so I think it was, I think, as I tell you, every show, this is why this is a travesting. It's a travesty. You're allowed to have those emotions. She's allowed to have those thoughts. She's all that to feel the way that she did. She 100% could say to someone and like a producer or whatever it is too. Like I'll be honest.

I know what they're doing. I understand. Like I get it. It's they're paying homage to it and I see. But like it hurts me because like it races me a little bit. But I understand what they're doing. But I'm just letting you know I'm bummed about it. By going out there and shitting on the fan base, I think it's, I thought there was a big mistake.

I think this movie's already like dangerously possibly going to. underperform and I know I know there's a big to do and I know there's a lot of women getting together to go see it a lot of people from the LGBTQ bus community excited to see it but like the last thing you want to do as you said is kind of go after a fan who was trying to do something cool with it and look he didn't change her for that person I don't know what gender they were they didn't change her face they just move the hat to simulate like but her nose is the same or lips the same the mouth the face construction all of it is then they added the red

lipstick a little bit because to mirror the poster, but that's it. And so I think it's just kind of foolish, as you said, to go out to the fans when this film may not be this big pop culture, zeitgeist that everyone's trying to create out of it who really love the musical. And so you kind of make some of these fans be hesitant to remember movie. And that's not what you want. And by the way, John M. Chu backed her up. So the director of the movie backed her up. Yeah. That's also kind of a bad situation. That to me turns into this thing that keeps on happening in general with this culture is that it's like because there's one thing is that we're well we got to i've got to i've got there's there's something to say like well i got to protect my star i got to be there for my star

but i still think you can say things in a way that look we respect in the same way that he says that he could say it also in that we respect what our fan base wants to do we understand it essentially saying what we just said it's yeah but cynthia was in the middle yeah she was hurt by this because she's worked so hard on this and we're so proud of the work that she did and we're proud of it too and we know how much you guys love it and we can't wait and we have not only do we have our version of the photo we have that too and we understand what we're going for but boom and and you can still protect her too without saying yeah she's right stupid stupid it's really stupid because it's as you say this is business yeah yeah yeah and you're trying and and if i'm if i'm universal i'm going oh no

what are you doing well and ariana had a great reaction like they asked her about it and she said you know, this is, it's a very complicated situation with AI. It's conflicting and troublesome, but also there's a massive adjustment period. So it's so much bigger than us. And the fans are going to have fun and make their edits. That's what she said. Yeah. So it's very much walking the middle of the road here. And so Ariana Grande said that. Yeah, Ariana Grande said. Yeah. And so I get where Cynthia was coming from. I just don't think this was the example that was so obvious that the intention was there to a racer. That wasn't the intention. No. And the same. And the is where the PR people should also be under under going to like hey in such maybe this was the case

but it's like you got before this whole thing goes on to look if there issues is there's anything come to the PR team and the PR team let them take the hits for right the PR team's like hey we really appreciate what our fan base is doing but our stars also does and let them take the hits for it right because if you get something out there because look at and we've talked about the rachel Zegler whole thing with Snow White and how that stuff. It's like that I'm serious and I know that it's a goof on this show at this point, but it's like social media has done as much damage to PR as it has also helped. Yeah. Yeah, you can do it. I mean, look at someone like the rock can be can do great things and Vin Diesel can do great things on social media and promote their movies and get, I mean,

Ryan Reynolds can do these things and really get their movies like out there and and put them in the forefront. Then there's times where you just, when you're too free with your words and people are like, well, F you, I was excited about this movie. Now I don't want to see it at all. Yeah. Yeah. It's a dangerous road. Yeah. Very great. Anyway, so curious what you guys think about. I know it's a couple days old, but I didn't really get a chance to talk to John about it and I'm very curious about his thoughts. Got him. So now I want to get yours. Put your thoughts in there for sure. And let me know what you're feeling. Yeah, John, before we move on to this topic, last week, you always set the bar so high on Mondays that everybody's always trying to catch up to you.

Mike Kalanowski hit 113 on on Thursday. Yeah, he's one is one his first big battle. So you but I'll tell you you're at 23 already and Mike was only at 21 when we started on when we got to the question side of it. So you're 23 already. So yeah

we'll see what happens. It's my birthday this week. It's this week right when yeah Wednesday. Oh nice you go on it. What are you doing and taking the day off? You know what I'm doing? I'm working. That's what I'm doing. I have a live show at night, give away stuff. I like to boy stuff on my birthday but this weekend yeah the lady's taking me to medieval times i never been a medium times that's fun and i thought one time before i die i should go right yes um i need you

do me a favor though don't boy if you do the spill the tequila thing yeah don't ever let let Winston do that accent again well hey listen it's Winston i'm happy he does the show i'm let them do that accent all right let's uh let's get into the next one here um i didn't you do that accent yeah well good yeah you know you did you did Nobody should do that. All right, here we go. Randy Cox, I was going to say. This is every time of this story, Randy Cox, Randy Quaid, Lewis, he teases Daredevil Revival

Darkness. Following the panel for their Daredevil Born Against Series in New York Comic Con, Marvel Television has released the official logo, the synopsis, and the cast for the show. The synopsis reads, Matt Murdoch, a blind lawyer with heightened abilities, is fighting for justice through his bustling law firm, former mob boss, Wilson Fisk pursues his own political endeavors in New York. When their past identities begin to emerge, both men find themselves on an inevitable collision course.

The series includes a lot of different people. The show is confirmed to have a TVMA rating, and Cox explains to Collider that is essentially going to be as dark as the Netflix series. We're continuing the darkness of the first series on Netflix. It's going to be that dark and intense. We worked our butts off to make it that way, so we're excited about it because of that.

As far as I'm concerned, the biggest question that I got asked the most, is it going to be dark like the original series, and the answer to that is a definite, yes, it's dark, it's crazy. We do some things that are definitely a first for Disney Plus. He also confirms Matt uses the F word in the new run. It was shocking to me. It's almost under my breath, but you can hear it. I was like, oh, wow, great.

Good to know for season two. And then Dario Scarta Payne is a showrunner on Daredevil, which premieres on Disney Plus. There's the costume and a shot of Daredevil. So this is something, John, that we knew about, obviously. They had talked about this. They had said the whole reason was that they were. going to do Bournegan. They announced Born Again at D23, two years ago, whenever it was,

and it was supposed to be 18 episodes, and it was going to be not attached to the Netflix lore. It was going to be something new, new universe, all that. And then whatever they saw on the dailies, they went, oh, they're saying right. Let's not to do this. And they decided, hey, why are we going against that? And I give them so much props for this. I give them so much profit. They said, this ain't working. Let's turn this around. Let's go back. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And let's continue the Netflix series. And now you get a confirmation from Charlie Cox that this is going to be more gritty. Is this, this is the right way to go?

And how do you feel that Disney Plus is going to go this route? Yeah, I'm excited about it. I mean, look, we just saw Deadpool and Wolverine under the Disney banner go pretty, go into some pretty interesting directions with a lot of sexual references and cuss words and what have you. So clearly Disney sees that this is a viable financial route to take. and it isn't affecting their bottom line on the other side. Like there are a lot of parents going, oh my God, we're not going to watch this now that you do this.

So it's clear that the society has kind of evolved to the point we're okay with this being for adults, this being for kids, under the same banner. It's okay. My thing here, when you look at the costumes, why are they afraid of putting the DD on his, the double D on his costume? I'm really confused by this.

It's just kind of odd to me. But I do like the darkness. I don't think the cussing is a big deal. I don't know why the F word is such a big deal that he's going to say it. I don't really think it needs to say it. Honestly, Matt Murdoch's not really known as this like cussing guy, but maybe in certain situations, they'll need a moment where he says that.

But, you know, that can be good or that can be bad. We've seen in Star Trek and Star Wars where they kind of say a cuss word or get close saying a cuss word and it's like, so I don't know. We'll see. But the darker approach, I'm always going to be in favor of that. So I'm excited to see this.

And then they ounce, what, that it was coming out like March or something? that yeah they said March I think they said official was March which is great and it's going to be it and I also think that you know now that they've had the success with with Deadpool now Deadpool is not necessarily dark but it's definitely it's a little kind of but it's it's it's bloody and it's and it's foul and it's that kind of and it's it's a hard rated art there's no doubt about it oh yeah totally but as far as like you know this uh like it's daredevil got kind of grim at points especially with the backstroy with the Punisher and all that

And John Berndtall said the same thing. He said he wasn't going to come back unless it was true to what they did last time. And it seems like they're honoring that. And I think this is a way to go because they kind of promised that a little bit with what's the one that just came out. Shoot, the one. Echo. Thank you. They promised that with Echo.

The trailer was a little deceiving. Yes, I agree. The trailer looked like it was cut to be this. And I think that they did some of the stuff. there was more true to the Kingpin character for sure and more so than that stupid performance in Hawkeye, whatever it was. That was awful. What a goofy, what a goofy way that they turned. If they would have done that with him and it was awful. But anyway, it was just the story just kind of fell flat and echo, I thought. But they have more time to work on it here.

Yeah, I agree. And I think they showed the darkness in the trailers. You said, the majority of the darkness was already in the trailer. Yeah. So when you saw it in the show, it didn't quite carry over as cohesively as it should have. And you're right. That's the story overall. I thought it was a watchable series, but I didn't think it was a great series, right? And so I wanted to see more of that.

And I think them stopping, what, a quarter of the way through, going back and going like, we need to do something better here. This is encouraging, right? Will they get it right? I hope they get it right. I like what's happening with Agatha. It's getting stronger and stronger as a series goes along. And hopefully this is Marvel.

maybe slowly starting to turn this corner. Tom Holland talking about those Spider-Man Four scripts. He's really excited about Robert Downey Jr. coming back here. I know people won't be on the fence about that, but he's coming back. So to me, this is maybe Marvel kind of figuring things out going, okay, we need to go back a little bit, reanalyze where we're at and come with better product, better efforts so that the fans get back on board with this stuff.

It's not lost cause. There's a lot of people who want it to work. well they they think though that um you know that when they run into captain america that's going to be the big thing because right now you can talk about you can get hype going and get all this stuff going for and dare the good news for them is that daredevil comes out in march right if dare if daredevil's great because the test screenings for captain america not so good as you're hearing and other people are hearing that yes right so if those if that movie turns out to be the farts. Then they still have a chance. They have a chance to get people kind of excited again through Daredevil, even though it's a street level kind of thing and it should attach to Spider-Man,

but it doesn't seem like it's going to. However, you still get, okay, yeah, yeah, don't worry about Captain America. Watch this for eight or ten weeks or whatever it is. And then we're going to show you Thunderbolts. There's a little more gritty there and cross your fingers on Thunderbolts and hold that works out. Then that leads into Fantastic Four. So, still have an opportunity but it just it's like they're doing this thing right now where they're like they get one and guardians and oh here comes the marvels and then they get you know oh there's there's Deadpool over oh there comes Captain America and then we're you know we're we're counting it out before it's even now but I'm just saying they need that never used to happen

back in the day even with even with things like the dark world that movie still did very well and people like oh okay not the best but you know what what's the next one that's They don't have that anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm curious to see how it's going to play. I'm curious what you guys think. So put your thoughts in there. How excited are you for, for Daredevil?

You think it's going to be a great series, good series. It's going to continue on. It makes me want to go back and rewatch the other series. And I don't know. I'm pretty sure that I finished the last season. It was only three seasons? Yeah, three seasons. I think I watched the third season.

It was so long ago. I feel like I did. I know I didn't see the Punisher though. I didn't watch the whole the Punisher. You didn't watch the first season of Punisher. No, I know. I know. That's my favorite season of Marvel television ever.

I highly highly recognize it. It's funny. I think I was at that point, I was in my kind of farewell to being at Collider. And I think that they wanted me to watch it or something to do something like that I don't watch it. So I, I am excited to see it.

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23 million, rather, for Smile. Then Wild Robot, which I just watched again, we're releasing a reaction to that on Friday. Terrify 3 with another 9.3 million. Beetlejuice at number four. That's crazy. How much is Beetle? I'm going to look at it.

And look at we live in time. That's a good number for that movie. For 4.2 coming out limited, I think, theaters. And it does, I mean, yeah. Did you wind up seeing it yet, John? I might go see that one today. My afternoon just opened up. Okay.

I like that one. I like that one. And then so Wild Robot thus far is at almost 200 million. Love it. Okay. So then we got, let's see. Back on that, you got Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice?

$2.434. Worldwide. So that is, I mean, crazy stuff going on here. And then it's my mind. smile to smile to a terrifier three i think has 41 million thus far so i don't know john this is a that's that's a number for um for terrifier again and it's also a number for smile the horror is kind of in october very spurs that's 46 million for that movie that's that's a pretty damn good uh 23 domestic 23 international so it's a pretty good start for that movie i agree it's fantastic to see it uh you know

for the box office and for theaters that there's you know it's not just the superhero stuff there's other genres that and horror has been doing really well over the last few years um as a as a place for people to go and enjoy themselves and especially if you if you're able to direct one and create one that top that kind of checks these boxes or tap certain buttons with people people will go see it over and over and over again i mean it's crazy out there in the world right now so you'd think horror wouldn't be successful because there's enough horror going on in our world but no no people do want to go and escape into this stuff and have some fun with it in the theaters.

And so I think it's great to see it. I can't wait to see Smile too. Everyone across the board says it's really good. And people who I don't normally see talk about horror films say it's really good. So I'm excited to see it at some point this week. I'll be the curmudgeon. I think the first two acts are good.

And then by the time you get to the, I think the end is ridiculous. And it's, but they're setting up. What I do think is I love the director. And Naomi Scott, awesome. But I just think that it's a clear setup to make this a franchise. And it's so painfully clear watching it. And it was just disappointing because I had just seen the original.

The original just feels like this kind of going back to that gritty, low budget horror movie. And because of that, you just feel like you're really in it and it felt original. And this one is just kind of grabbing a little. lot of those things and there's one when you see it when you see if anybody who saw the movie and i'm not spoiling it for anybody but if you saw you know i'm talking about there's a ridiculous scene with a bunch of dancers of all say and i couldn't help it but go it didn't seem scary at all it's and i'm like come on i'm like don't do that it's like it was like um was like red light red light green light one two three remember that came yes when you're going to see the movie now

you're going to remember me the red light green light one two three and you're going to laugh because there's no way now you can take it seriously red light green light one two three it's stupid it's so stupid but the movie it's it's fine it is as i was saying when i when i saw it i i was really enjoying her for a bit and then by the time you get to the anyway but 42 44 whatever the hell it made made a lot of money yeah 43 because john it's the same it's our song they're singing our song which is stop spending too much money and you will make it. If you make 40, because imagine if this movie costs $200 million, then you panic of $44 million.

Because guess what's not in the top five? Yeah, Joker 2. After week three, that's, can you imagine in any world two months ago, if you and I were talking about this, would we have been saying, you know, oh, well, it won't even be in the top five. If I told you it wasn't going to be in the top five by week three, you would have bet, you would have tripled or nothing our bet.

Yeah. Right. And I would have, I would have encouraged you to. Yes, yes. I mean, what a shock. What an utter shock. It's crazy. I don't even know where it landed in the top 10. It's an intellectual masterpiece that we all don't get. And it's now, where's it at? It's number six. It's number six. It's number six. It's made so far, it's made $191 total after three weeks.

No, it's not even this budget. And after three weeks and plus the marketing, it's going to be a major loss. And they already announced it's going to digital next week. Right. Well, this is the way to try to get something back. They're trying anything they can, but it's a shocked. Hilarious. Hilarious and sad at the same time.

What I'll tell you, it's not. It's like, I don't know how you do it. Every week, you know, you don't even say anything. You know, 30 questions already. We haven't even gotten to the thing yet so far. It's pretty good, John. I'm impressed. Always impressed.

Let's see. What else we got here? We got, um, there, I don't know, do you know what this show is, this evil show? Do you know what the show is? Evil? Yeah. Oh, no. I know what it is. Evil's the one that was with Michael Emerson, who I, who I, who really, Michael Emerson.

And so they, I guess they, they aren't going to do anything with it moving forward. I know they had a series finale with it. I knew that. And then I know, so strange, I actually, you know, I interviewed him with Roxy. And then, Michael Emerson. Yeah, yeah. He was great. And so I interviewed him, but what's great is that he was in New York. I was supposed to try to get him to, that was going to rent out a studio in the city and go and interview in there, but I couldn't get it done. So we wound up doing virtual. It was a great conversation. And then that whole debacle when I got lost from trying to find that theater when I was going to see Saturday night.

Yeah. I ran into him randomly in the subway. Wait, wait. Are you saying that you got lost and you ran into Michael Emerson? Yes. That's actually really good. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That was hilarious. But I am. But I, but yeah, I met. I wound up meeting him. talking to him for a little bit really nice guy really nice guy he's married to which i found out over the weekend my my lilly all she loves that elzbeth show on dbs yeah that's his wife i had no idea

that was his wife yeah they talked about um his wife quite they were at one point they were like she was working he wasn't she was working he wasn't and then um he was like i'm not i'm good not working right now and then i ran into him he's like i just book something and he's like that's going to be working forever he's the best he's so good and he's such a pleasant person to talk to that's great um and then um i forget were you were saved by the bell person or was that past your time oh yeah oh yeah so you remember so i have a clip out that i'm going to put out on the channel if i can ever freaking get to it um i where you know i interviewed mark paul gossler last week yeah and um we i talked to him about that ac slater fight oh yeah and i talked to him about that

fight he he told me he was a real fight he said he he he said look now i've done so many of these fights and like the choreographed and the way that they're you get stuck people to do certain things he goes yeah we rehearsed it once Friday night then they said go because the emotions are high he goes like I'm pretty sure that was a real fight. I'm not surprised I don't want to fight Mario Lopez too no you would want to fight him is that what he said of course of course you're not like Mario Lopez I'm not a Mario person I like I like gossler though I think he's great he was yeah he was he was great he was great um so anyway uh we do have some what's that what does you have coming up he's got a show he's got a show on uh on on NBC

called found right the the kidnap show yeah and he's he's kind of like the Hannibal lector of the show yes i forgot about that yeah yeah he's um so he he's he's really he's really good on it and he's and he's i like i enjoy i really enjoy talking him him lillard we got some we have a i might i'm gonna jinx myself because every single time i do this i tell i say who's going to come on the show it always gets jinx but i'll jinx it anyway um the kid from uh from penguin oh renzi felice yes nice yes yes So I'm working on Victor right now trying to get him. And did you watch Sundays?

You did, right? We just did our review this morning before it came on the show. So good. And my reaction is up on the channel right now. Really? Yeah, I like this episode. It was good, like episode after last episode. It's good like, let's reset the table, see where we're at.

And Sophia making her moves and Oz making his moves. I loved it. Loved. Absolutely love that show. It's so good. And you know, it's so funny is when I was watching that episode because I had to watch back to back because I missed it the following week so I did I did four and five together um I didn't even realize Kristen Miliani was in the Supronos.

Yeah she had a really small part she was Johnny Sacks kid. Yeah she talks about she said she didn't never even seen Super yeah I saw that clip. Yeah yeah yeah so she said that until like recently she watched it and then loved it yeah But she's she's great. It's she's really really good um you know show I where would you stand on House of the Dragon did you do? I love it. Me too. It was great. Same. There's no word yet on season three. Not yet. So no progress yet has been made in the third season of House of the Dragon,

at least according to the actors, peering at a panel at New York Comic-Con, Matt Smith, Fabian Frankel, Tom Glencarnie, all say they have very little information regarding the new run. Moderator Josh Harwoods asked if any of them had seen a script for the upcoming third season, to which Glenn Carney said, no, not a jot, not a letter. they take the longer we don't have to read anything for a while. Smith added whilst turning to Frankl, I've not heard hide nor here. I don't know about you guys. I've not heard a thing. Have you? Franklin responded, I've heard some things that I couldn't possibly share here. Showrunner,

Ryan Condal and the writers are working on the new season, which follows in the wake of the second season finale, which aired in August. HBO has not announced any production or release plans for the series beyond the renewal order and plan to end the series with this fourth season. The gap between the first and second seasons was 20 months, and airing tends to take. place nearly a full year after filming wraps. This means we won't be in the third season until 2026 at the earliest. HBO has another game of thrown spin-off a night of the Seven Kingdoms, which comes out in 2025. I think that adds to it. I think the new show adds to them going, okay, we can take a breath, come back when we need to come back with it. And I also think all this

drama with George R. Martin didn't help. I think the, you know, because if he's out there, because he had pulled, I think he wrote that thing and then he pulled it down, right? yeah what what a stupid stupid thing to do i just was so mad at him for doing that like what's your right bitch if you're gonna write stand by it don't fucking pull it down i'm sorry i don't mean to get upset but like it really made me mad like you can't finish your book but you got time to write this whole long treatise on what went wrong with house of the dragon like get out of here man come on yeah and i just don't but i just don't understand it's the same way that we're talking about before with with cynthia it's like what do you do it's people that are paying your bills and you're like it's like

okay because you know you the fans are going to rally behind you because you're George R. Martin you're the guy who created it. So if you start saying oh they're not oh if you know if you guys knew the real truth here about this unless unless you know there's something that he said to them many times like look guys stop doing this I need you to do this it's in my contract to do this and we're supposed to and you're not and you're negating that you're not going and so if you keep doing that and you're not listening to me and I'm feeling ignored I'm going to have to post something and if he told them that I don't know if this happened I'm just saying like in a scenario like that and you found that out

He was like, okay, well, he gave him enough warning where he kept telling him that he wanted to do something and they kept ignoring him and he knows the world. He created and they're clearly ignoring him. But if he just decided that, well, you know what? I don't like the way this is happening. I'm going to tweet now. And it's like, dude, stop it. Yeah. That's the frustrating part of it all because he didn't say that that's what happened.

So it looks like he's trying to save face like, oh, hey, these are the changes they made. It's not my story. It's their story. It's like you're intimately involved in this. So if you're going to come out and go against what the storylines have been and force, because I think a couple of the directors or the showrunners had to come out with a statement saying, we understand George's opinion, but we had to go for time. We had to constrain certain storyline.

Then you're just kind of left with your own devices. And I think George should come out and say straight up. I told them not to do this. I thought, but they went ahead forward and blah, blah, blah. But to take it down means the lawyers got a hold of them. We're like, take this down. Right. you're going to lose money so and that's and that's the and that's the point it's like figure out first

if you can do that and then do it right it's like if figure it out first and don't just post because then if someone goes you're going to lose money here we keep that up it's like take this thing and chop your hands off everybody because this is the worst it's the worst it's the worst it continues the amount of money and the amount of careers that were destroyed over these things it's insane it's insane and I'm telling you for the it is like it's like having a loaded weapon eventually you're going to shoot yourself in the foot you keep doing it I'm talking all you you mean the phone or do you mean the app the app the Twitter this I'm telling you events eventually you're going to shoot yourself in the foot and you go oh how'd that

happen it happens to everybody yeah everybody he's happened to you you know it did it's happened to you of course I don't yeah well no app wise appwise no I got my in trouble because I open my big stupid mouth and when I shouldn't have done that. Same thing because I'm alive all the time, tired. This? Not really. No, I haven't gotten myself with tweeting out. But people will because I don't do it because I post and run. I run away.

Run away. Run away. But the same thing is like even going back. Over the weekend I got myself in it. Not trouble, but like I was, there was somebody who I was in my sopranos mode. And there was somebody who commented on the Robert Eiler video. And it's a clipout. And so there's a portion of the clip out is me talking.

and then him following up. And so this person writes on the clipout, they go, why don't you let your guests speak when you interview him? And I said, hey, fuckface. If you would have been watching the whole interview, you would have seen that I was actually having a conversation, so why don't you stick your head up your ass?

And then I said, I would delete that. And I just banned the guy from the channel. And I was like, it was like, that's what I do, what I normally do, nine out of ten times, I, I just hide the user from the channel

because there's no reason to get after. And I'm guilty of it 100%. People who don't have successful channels love to tell you what to do with your channel. Love to tell you what you should be doing right or wrong. And that's the danger. You're right. That's the danger. And I don't include myself.

I mean, like I only have 35,000. But like it's still 35,000. And so I know I climb into the comment sometimes. And people with like one follower or one subscriber like, you're terrible. You should do this and you should do that. And it's like, show me you're successful or even remotely 1,000 subscribers. subscribers, YouTube channel. Let me see what you got. But, you know. Well, look. So it's also, that's, that's the thing is that it's more, it's not easy,

but it's also that what you have to realize is it, and I tell myself this, it comes with the job. Yeah, it comes with the job. And I have to understand. And I've been so good at it. And then that's, that's also one of the reasons I wanted to stay away from live because it's like, there are a lot of times live where I'm just, I'll be, like, last week, I was having like the, it was on with Mike. And my, the sound. was messing up with this freaking thing and it's like you know I'm like that freaking the monkey with the with the clap and trying to do all these different things and people cracking jokes that's why I would do too in the live thing but I was at the time I don't want to hear it because I'm sitting there trying

to figure it out and I'm like yeah I get it I get frustrated and I'm like I can't do that especially with people like because I was Mike Joyce cracked the joke Mike Joyce is the most loyal freaking fan it's like it's like me telling him his poster sucks so you tell him his postagely Michael occasionally crosses the effing lines. If Mike's got learned something too. Look, we all love the support. Thank you very much, Mike. But, you know, sometimes you cross little lines.

He didn't cry. But he didn't that day. He didn't that day. It was, I was just irritated with the freaking sound. Anyway. Yeah. So I'm trying to think of anything else. Yeah, go ahead.

John, you're going to say him. Please tell me Tim Sim is commenting a lot in the, because Tim said all that crap about the Yankees and the Yankees and the Yankees. Well, we got here, buddy, boys. So he's not here. No, he's not here. He's not here. No, no, stop that.

He sends in his fair share. He's not here at the moment. At least I don't think he is. But I'm trying to think if there's anything else, anything big that we should cover before we move on to the stories. But I mean, the questions. But, oh, we mentioned Deadpool before. It's a pretty big story.

Deadpool beat Barbie at the U.S. box office, man. It's a mess like. Yeah, it may be on digital, but Marvel Studios, Deadpool and Wolverine is still continuing to smash records at the box office. Marvel Studios and Disney's R-rated film is now surpassed Barbie to rank number 12 on the list of all-time top grossing films at the domestic box office. Film just took in another $679,000 this weekend, which is insane, pushing its domestic total to $636.3 million, just above the final 636.2 of Greta Gerwig's meta-comedy. Globally, however, Barbie remains queen with its

1.446 billion worldwide hall, putting in the 15th place of all time, easily ahead of the Malthy Merck's Hall of 1.336. Worldwide, it sits at 20th place of all time, having knock Ryan Johnson's Star Wars of The Last Jedi out of the top 20. The film still holds many box office records since it's open, most notably the biggest opening weekend for an R-rated movie at 211, the second biggest film of 2024 to date in the MCU 7th highest grossing film globally. This makes all the sense in the world that it would, with the trajectory that it was on, that it would be a domestic thing over than a worldwide. It would Barbie, to me, makes more sense that it's the did better worldwide for sure yeah um but yeah i mean remember back in

the day when you uh you didn't think it was gonna cross a billion dollars yeah i know i was surprised who knew that they you know the film was going to do as well as it did and me who knew that joker was going to crash down to earth as well because that could have been a real big competition if it had come out and been an actually good movie so yeah a lot of surprising things happened here at the end with this but i'm you know but i'm happy for it because it's a good movie. I've seen it three times. I enjoy it every time I watch it. And I think there's more darkness in this film than people think.

I mean, Wolverine is, Wolverine is dealing with the fact that he might have had a hand and having all of his friends killed by accident, you know, and so there's that and Wade is dealing with the fact that all of his family might be ripped from him and he's going through a breakup with Vanessa who he loves so much and is really

kind of glimcing his life without her. We see what happens to Johnny Storm with his skin being ripped off. That's true. Some of gross stuff. And then Cassandra going into your mind, essentially raping your mind with her fingers. I mean, there is darkness amidst the jokes on all this movie. So I think people need to give it a little more credit for where it exists at. It's not just yuck, yuck jokes.

Sure. I don't think, I don't think, oh, the overall tone is dark. Are there some dark moments? Sure, sure. Which I think helps. Yeah, I would agree with that. I would say there's some dark moments, but overall the tone is not necessarily dark. Yeah.

What about the gladiator to react? What are you? I was going to ask you. I was going to add that that's one. That's in there. Thank you for bringing that up. Let's bring this up. The gladiator two, there were some screenings.

They held its first. I know that I know the Mance Man saw it. Yes, he did. Yeah, I don't know what his- Wendy went as well. Oh, did she? Okay. Were they allowed to do social reactions on it?

Yeah, social media reactions. Yeah, there's a lot of social media reactions out for this. All right, all right. Here we go. So Ridley Scott's gladiator two had its first screening last Friday night, and the early reactions made their way to social screening at the Paramount lot in Los Angeles. The word has been unanimous raves with dubbing it release cuts best in a long time.

However, said reaction is time to come from social media influencers, junker reporters, or more award-centric journalists as opposed to more regular film critics, or even LA-based junket regulars who voice their skepticism on social media today. The result has been a lot of gushing off in par for the course with early screening reactions, but even those usually are tempered with a bit more of critical assessment than the reaction we're seeing here. unless the film is really that good. Full critics, reviews for the film aren't dropping until closer to the release date, but Paramount seems to be bullish about the film's quality, with early screenings being held with in the next week or two around the world, well before the film's release. Expect a ton of reviews well before it opens. Now there's a sampling, yada yada,

rest easy Romans, Gladiator 2 is the kind of large-scale filmmaking excellence only really Scott could crawl. Everything about it just works. Big maverick vibes in this ability to conjure the past while adding something new, bold, filmmaking from a legendary talent. That's Drew Taylor from the rap. Clayton, Clayton Davis says Ridley Scott's best directorial effort since the Black Hawk down. I found Meskull's work as Lucius to be one of the film's most honest surprises. This is Denzel Washington having the time of his life and one of his most killer roles yet. Gladiator 2 is a true epic and Ridley Scott best in years. Meskla is a great action star without sacrificing his indie grit, a worthy heir to the throne. Denzel Washington eats every line in costume without overplaying it. Scott Menzel.

This gladiator 2 is Ridley Scott's best film since The Martian, a big, bloody, and badass action spectacle that builds up the legacy of the original. Let's see, is anything else, too? Jermaine, who I like a lot. Gladiator 2 doesn't quite rise to the greatness of the original, but it's a damn fine sequel with big stakes, solid story, excellent performances.

I enjoyed it thoroughly. Most probably will too, but most probably will too, but it's just lacking emotionally. Everything is very easy and surface. Okay. I like Jermaine and his take. stakes so I think that there's um most of those that I read that were critics I was gonna say what what the hell is that intro talking about a lot of those guys are regular critics well those are

those are credit they pulled from critics and now there were critics that were there but it seemed like there was more which is heavy it does seem like there were way more critics there than than they made it seems all those were all I mean the rap is not an influencer obviously but it does keeping up with that trend in that article that they wrote that that the rap actually wrote about influencers are the ones that are really more of the priority now than the critics are. And, you know, as much as it doesn't behoove us in that case, which is funny, though, to be because if we wanted to, we could be invited to those because we could be looked upon as both when it comes to YouTube or whatever it is. We've just

been in the critics world for so long. And those are the screenings that I get into, the critics are the critic ones. But if you're looking at again like a business and, You want to get everybody, you want to get the regular fans and the regular people out there and you want to get them excited. Look at what they did with Beetlejuice and it worked. Look what they did with Joker, which it didn't work, right? They put the, now it looks like, what is this? This is Paramount. So Paramount is now following Warner Brothers and saying, okay, let's get the, let's do the influencers first.

Yeah. Critics can see it afterwards. Let's get the fans out there to see it first because they're going to be excited about it and they're going to get their followers to it. And that's the hype. Who cares with these? We have to do it. We're obligated to tell the critics about it, but we'll give them a plate in the alley and throw some meatballs in the back. You know, that's kind of what it feels like now. And that's what that article was pretty much. I think that that's, I think it's changing. I think the business is changing dramatically. I think everybody, and I think everybody's at fault for this. I really do. And a lot of people want to be like, oh, studios this or critics that.

Everybody's at fault for this. And by that, I mean, look, there have been some critics who have absolutely taken advantage of their position. kiss their own butts and thought they could write some really sanctimonious, passive-aggressive, snarky crap about a film that really diminishes the artistry and the amount of work that people put into a movie so they could collect their paychecks, get as much click on their articles and enjoy it

and earn their, quote, six-figure salary that they get from some of these sites. And by the same token, studios themselves have been a bit cynical with putting out a crap product and trying to put a sheen on it or a gloss on it to trick people into the movie theater. Influencers kind of slid into this area here where there's been the battle between fans and critics

and played to the fans so they could get followers and subscribers. But then some of these influencers are paid by studios to promote their movies, to talk positively about their movies. So it becomes a nebulous situation. But the studios, it's about, as we said, many times, Christian, it show business

and they're about making money. So they see that no longer do they have to cater to the critics exclusively in order to help their movie. In fact, if they know they've got a crap movie, going to influencers first who are willing to talk about the movie, talking up to their large fan bases, allows them to make a good amount of money on the first day of the lease. It's marketing.

And then eventually the critics. Yeah, right, exactly. It's free marketing is what they're basically doing there. They pay these influencers. Well, I mean, some of them. Some of them are just invited. There are some influencers that are just invited to a screening. The big ones they pay, but the other ones are.

Right. And the big ones, ones they invite to do videos and stuff and come to the premieres and do all those things. But that's also because the studios had no other choice back in the day. Yeah, right. When it came with critics, it was like that was the way it is. The critic came in, a critic review. There was no influence.

There's nobody else to do it. There's nobody else shooting things. And now they've come to a point where like, a guy in the meeting go, hey, do we need critics? And they go, never really thought about that. Hey, I got a, I got skunk fart's 83. He's got 1.2 million things and he's going to come in and do a big happy video about the movie and then tell people about it. And then you got Grouchy Magoo writing, you know, he's got 500 followers and he's writing for a thing, but no, but he's just going to shit on the movie because we know it's not good. Do we need him to go? Well, we got to invite him. But invite him to the last screening possible. Invite skunk farts to go to the thing and get him out there to tell everybody about it. And then it's just, I know, critics don't like it, but it's just the way, it's just the way it is now. And it's like there's no, look, that's why I've always said, I have never, A, I don't consider myself an influencer, and B, I don't consider myself a critic. Never really have. I always said that I've been,

someone who, a review a movie, you can review it in the same way that. You're a reviewer. Yeah, I think that anybody who, you hear who's watching right now who watches a movie and reviews it, you can have, you can, by definition, say, well, that's a critic. okay fine but a professional critic like so i always say like i think william bibiani is a professional critic yes 100 percent i think william bibiani is a professional is a professional yes um or and and even he's pulled back a bit yeah right so um yeah yeah and well jermine too i think jermines is it's kind of goes he's more of a i think he's more of a writer you know like he's writing certain things that he does and um yeah but i think that he did and what's his face um

Whitney, Seibel, professional critic, right? Alonzo Duraldi, professional critic, right? And I think that there's just, I think that the, I just think the business has changed, man. No, I don't think you're a professional critic. I don't. I think you want. Critics Association.

What is that? So did I. So did I. But I think that we're, but I, but they're also, but that's the thing too. The critics, the CC has also now, it is, it has changed dramatically since I got accepted into it too. in the same way that when I first got accepted into going to screenings with Mark, we were, thumbs are up.

People wanted nothing to do with us. We didn't want us to be there, right? We were, we were two YouTube guys. And I remember writing to the studios and like, you do what? Who? What? Like, I had to, like, it took a while to get into those screenings. And it was because eventually you show the names.

And I had to use, I used connections and stuff that I had. I said, well, I worked at Warner Brothers. I did this. I did that. And then they started the, and, I was on Adam Carolla, so they started to take us a little bit more seriously that way, and we started getting in, and then you, you know, you start meeting people, and they start inviting you to more things. But you are, you are an influencer. I mean, you want to call yourself

an influencer or not. You are an influence. It could, it could, if I, if we fall into that category, we'll fall into that category, right? But what I'm saying with critics, thinking being in. No, but the CCA has, has now, they definitely look at stats on YouTube and they look at different, That wasn't like that when I got it. They weren't caring about the stats on on YouTube. They were caring. No, but they weren't caring about your stats in terms of are people reading your articles?

Sure. 100%. Absolutely. Yeah. It's still the same criteria. It's just in a different format. They're shifting, though, the same way that everybody else is shifting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're shifting that they're letting their criteria who gets in now is different. There are people like I saw, there are tons of people that I saw that from YouTube critics that are getting in now that would have not gotten in five, 10 years. ago because I remember speaking like it was like yeah they wanted a certain thing and now it's just different the business is different yeah all right so you guys what do you think about all this what do you think about gladiated you excited about it do you want to see it pumped what say you put your thoughts in there let me know man um what I also gonna tell you guys about rocket money baby it's rocket money time I love rocket money

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because john's starting out we'll find out um okay let's go with this first question here and that's Miguel, I haven't seen Miguel. What's up, Miguel? Miguel is on. Do you all think that the Batman is still underrated today? The movie should be bigger than what it is. Everyone is asking for comic book movies that look different with great cinematography. Well, there it is, and more. Also, do you like how the Rousseau's film their movies? I mean, I love all their MCU films.

It's just that they all look the same, mostly color-wise. That's why I wanted someone else new for Doomsday. I get the point with the... Rousseau Brothers movies do look... similar. I don't think that's a bad thing for the new Avengers, though. I think it's good to have them do the Avengers movie and the colors and everything. I think it fits. I don't disagree that it looks the same. But as far as the Batman, I don't think the Batman is underrated. I think that people really dig it. And I think that I, and I think the numbers have even boosted

up more because of the Penguin. But I don't know. What do you think, John? Yeah, it's kind of interesting situation because you, you, I don't think the Batman is underrated. I think a lot of people really enjoyed the movie. And it came out during COVID. Like, don't forget. And it made as much as it made is pretty amazing. I think this is maybe in later times. This is a film that it makes a billion dollars. If it came out maybe this year, it makes a billion dollars where people are much more comfortable going to the theater. And so those are the situations there. People like that it. It was good enough to create a penguin series off of it. So I don't think it's that underrated if that universe is still very much seen as a universe that people want to see. And so the studio,

the studio is green lighting projects connected to that universe. I mean, there's still the the Arkham, the GCPD stuff. So there was still stuff kicking around for a little while before it kind of got moved away. So I, you know, I think it's still very much well-rated the Batman. People love it. And that soundtrack is at that score. It's one of Jekina's best for sure. Yeah.

You know, before. And I went for the Russo shoot. So yeah. Before we move on, John, what's going on your channel this week? Oh, yeah. If you guys, YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Roker says, they're the outlaw nation. A lot of stuff going on. We just dropped out, or I just dropped my reaction to the penguin. which is the watch long reaction there. But we will have our spoiler review on the geek buddies later on today.

More geek buddies content, Agatha, all along. We just dropped our main show, talking about Spider-Man 4 and Spidey stuff over at Sony. The hot mic, of course, happening every week at 4 p.m. Thursday. Good to see the numbers haven't dropped that much, even though Jeff's jumped off of Twitter. It's nice to see that people are still coming back loyally and enjoying that show. And I'm sure we'll have a new Jedi way this week.

And we just dropped a new episode of Spill the Tequila with me and Winston-A Marshall get into some of the more dangerous stories going on in the world of entertainment. So a lot of stuff happening there, plus my reactions and my reviews for you all to enjoy. Thank you. Make sure you check that out. Go and check John's channel. He's building some stuff over there, some great shows. And Winston's wearing the hat.

All right. Let's get to this next question, and that is. Yeah. Gary Buse, this is from Armada. Gary Busey is Jerry Jones in a Jerry Jones biopic. I believe that if you put enough people running around in the field and put put emin Smith back in there can he can he still run how about Michael Irvin running around backwards with the new is Troy is Troy there too has anybody

seen my Doritos thank you there you go perfect aida Norris congrats to your your Yankees thank you very as a Mariners fan I know nothing but pain having never made it to the world series I know Jay Bioner never got it done maybe one day when they spend money on the players instead of fireworks and bobblehead nights I understand your pain that's how I feel about Lucasfilm right now but I get it I totally get Armada at least Lucasfilm has had some victories Seattle yeah I know Seattle I know Seattle I know I don't but I like uh I don't mind Seattle it's so funny is it's you know my neighbors here I realize moving back to New York how much MEP fans hate Yankees hate the Yankees

more than the Yankees ate the Mets. I realized that. I realized that as I came back because like my two neighbor who were great, really great. It's a guy that was right across the way, his family, nicest people ever. And then, from the corner of the family, we become friends with the

family on the corner. And both diehard Mets. And I said to my neighbor right across the street, I go, you know, this is when they were still in. I was like, you know, they got a shot. Yankees just made. He's like, I had my game. I had the game on last night. And he goes, look my favorite team is the Mets and my second favorite team is anyone playing the Yankees and I

and I was like hey he goes he was little what you want me to say I'm a jealous Met fan and I go honesty you got honesty right but I'm like I don't and I said to him and I maybe maybe I shouldn't have said at the time I did but I go I go look I've always liked the Mets it's like hey a little guy guy I ate a little guy he did it um anyway Armada kind of would be cool to see Nolan do a swat buckling movie that would be cool maybe it could be an adaptation of the time machine or something HG Wells inspired that would be cool I would love to see I would yeah wouldn't you like to seem to do just more like a fantasy thing I would 100% yeah because I mean like that that time machine remake with Guy Pearce is not good and so if you wanted to explore

that one again I think there's a lot of opportunity for him to explore it but Nolan doing a swashbuckling film film would be a lot of fun I think it'd be good for people like okay let's not be so serious let's have a little fun with Christopher and see what he can do with a crowd rousing spectacular. It would be fun to see. I would love to see that. I would love to see that. I don't know if he has any interest in doing that,

but I want to see him do something more like that. And look, and then go back to another historical thing or whatever, too, because whatever it is, I want to see it. Like, I love Dunkirk. I love Oppenheimer. But I want to see him do something else like dive in. I do love when he plays with science. I mean, I really do.

Armada also says, any word if the cross show on Amazon is any good? I haven't seen it. I've got the screeners. I have not watched them this week. Jeff Snyder has, but I think he's under embargo because he loves that Dallas Cross series. Okay.

Yeah, Aldous Hodge. I love Aldous Hodge. So, you know, I want to see it. This is right up Snyder's Alley to that show. Evil John Madden, wish we could go back to actually being able to tell someone a movie sucks without having to say, but if you like the movie, that's awesome. People are too weak now. I don't care when I'm told a movie. I like sucks and I'm wrong.

Wimps. Evil John Madden's always in here to destroy some shit. And I love it. But, but no, I don't, I don't agree with that. I think that you can, if someone, if you can still say, you don't like a movie and something stinks, it's, I feel the wimpiness is, is like if you don't think it is and you don't want to hurt someone's, if it's what you do, if you're out there well, I don't want to offend anybody or I want to, I want to, I want to make sure that I, I keep the positivity all the damn time. That to me is like, if you don't really like it and you're just saying and you're fine it's like okay I've been getting that recently so I was like oh Christian he's just negative all the time I don't need that in my life it's like if I don't like

something I'm gonna say I don't like it right but I also don't think it's right to say if if you like it you like it you suck you that my opinion's not it's not end-all be all so so if you like it's great right like look I'll tell you right now multiverse of madness sucks I hate that movie. I think it's terrible, right? But if you like it and it works for you, who am I to tell you that you're an idiot for liking it? Right. That's right. You know, I think it's another one to evolving to a place where you can still say something sucks for you, but also respect the fact that it doesn't suck for someone else. Because I think of this, some of the movies you like, there are plenty of people who will tell you they suck.

Sure. So it's all a matter. That's why it's a subjective art. And I do see people going like, No, we need to have unanimity about this kind of thing. And it's like, no, we know unanimity. We know Oppenheimer is an excellent instant classic. 1917 is an instant classic. Because we know a majority of people like it. And so there are people who don't like it. But in the end, they're not the opinion that carries the day.

So we can have all of these things that exist. Yeah. A, love the show, guys. Let us all rejoice that Deshaun, Cosby, Watson, finally had some karma catch up to him. It was pathetic seeing James Winston defend him. It looked like Winston was recording a WWE promo backstage or something. And guys at goofball, maybe he can star in a soap opera when he retires.

Yeah, I did, now I feel like it was, I saw the clip, and I feel like it was, you know, obviously doctored from the you deserve it chant. Is that? Yeah, yeah. Is that real? Yeah. It was real. No, the clip was doctor.

Okay. People were cheering and people were. That's horrible. But I don't, yeah, right. I don't think anyone should be cheering his injury, right? No. And I think some people are a little more level-headed, look at it and go, okay, the reason people were actually cheering was because they didn't like him as a quarterback.

Right. Like he wasn't good. Right. But if this guy was leading them to Super Bowls, a lot of them would ignore the 30-plus women who he sexually assaulted or allegedly sexually assaulted and had to, what had to come to terms with all of them and pay them for their accusations. And so there's an element of that. And James is the last person, a guy who's been accused himself of sexually

assaulting numerous women and stealing crab legs and messing with Uber drivers. He's the last person to be out here being sanctimonious about anything. And I feel so ashamed that I cheered for that guy as he took us to a national championship because he is not a good, he's kind of a bad person overall. So, yeah. Well, I mean, for me, it's like, like I said, I don't think cheering someone when they're Kurt is ever the thing, but it's bad karma. I agree with you.

I agree with you. Okay, Mike Joyce, going off last week's conversation, Roka absolutely should start a politics channel. Impolite truth with Doreen was great. Maybe title it the enemy within. I'm telling Roka for weeks upon weeks, maybe months to do that. And especially now, I don't know what he's waiting for. I don't know what he's waiting for.

Because it's a lot of work. And it's also a lot of mental health work to watch all this stuff. That's true. control your emotions. But you watch it anyway. Yeah, but then, yeah, because I rage and then I move on. Do you know what I'm saying? But to sit here and sit and fester it and have to watch these interviews, like, oh, you think I want to, you would think I want to spend an hour watching the Undertaker interview Trump? Give me a break, but that would be great content. But it's just a matter of do I want to put myself through it? All right. Hey, listen, I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you.

All right. So, EWalk, I haven't chimed in for a bit because my wife just gave birth to my second child. That's awesome, dude. Congratulations. This is who. chat is in honor of all the moms out there the true superheroes facts total facts um you walk follows it up what except for maybe penguin's mom but yeah that's true that's true uh what are you're although she toughened them up she kind of did you know what I you know what I love you know what I love about that that whole thing if you listen they like it's all planned out in that show because Kristen Miliotti's accent is significantly different than what penguin is doing yeah however

if you listen to his mother, his mother has the same exact cadence. And it's like, it's like a different part of town. Like it's like a Gotham accent. It's like old school, old-timey 1930 Chicago accent, which I absolutely love because it's like it's not like just his trying to do a bad East Coast accent. It's not. It's clearly like they're going for something. And it's his mother's accent too.

They're both doing the same thing. Yeah. And so and because then you get Milliani who is, it's funny because my, the editors that I, because I was, I said like, she's got to be from the East Coast and and I realized it throughout my reaction. I was like, oh, she's from Jersey. Yeah. But I never, but it didn't edit that part in so

the whole comment section is she's actually from Jersey. She's from Jersey. Like not people being douchey, just letting me know that she's from Jersey. But her accent is just, I mean, about as authentic as you get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's good to see it. Yeah, it is. Oh, wait, Ewok, what are some of your favorite Shakespearean adaptations?

Mine or Corosacos ran based on King Lear and Brannas Henry the 5th. Yeah. Brannas is great. Yeah. Go ahead. Do you have some thoughts on this? Go ahead, man. I was going to, well, I mean, I really, you know, I've always wanted to see a new Othello.

You know, and because I know he did that Macbeth won the other, the one with Fastbender. That wasn't bad. Yeah. But yeah, I think, and there was, there were, there's quite a few that I probably have to jump through. But I think that I always wanted to, I wanted to see the Othello one for sure. Yeah, I mean, the Orson Wells Othello is fantastic. I enjoyed that one. All a long time ago.

Yeah, long time. But I do like the Macbeth, Othello. I'm sorry, the Macbeth, the Fast, Fast, the Fast, Fast-Bender Macbeth. I thought it was really removing all the comedy and just making this dark moody Scottish piece. I thought was genius. Yeah. Brana's Henry V is good. I thought his Hamlet was mostly good although there are a couple of miscasts

character. I think Jack Lemon is horribly miscast. Mostly dead. Mostly dead to blame. To blame. But yes, and Throne of Blood is another fantastic with Beth from Kurosawa that I think works really well if you take a look at that one. And I thought Hopkins King Lear, which I think is on Prime Video, was really good with him as King Lear. So there are a few of these most recent ones that I think are a joy to dive into.

And of course, Ian McClellan's Richard the third is incredible with Robert Downey Jr. and at Benning that I thought was excellent that y'all should check out. Fucking theater nerd. All right. So here is the next one here is for Armadig. And he says, shout out and major love to tribe for getting inducted into Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Also Dupa Leapiep was there, hot enough to make the sun melt.

God damn. She's, she's an attractive lady. She was at the Critics Choice Awards last. year and yeah she's attractively I don't know if it did but um what was oh yeah Dave Matthews also yeah you Dave Matthews guy I liked it I liked Dave for the music he released that were hits I was and I grew up in I'm not sorry I lived in Charlottesville for two years so that is like Dave Matthew Central of Virginia so I was always surrounded by his music and so I enjoyed it I mean you couldn't get away from it of Florida State

didn't get away from it at Florida State oh yeah yeah yeah yeah um you know who gave a speech to get him into the Hall of Fame Dave Matthews no who should look it up while I did this look it up Armada excuse my French on that last super chat oh you're all right all right watch Broca's reaction when he finds out who gave this speech

Julia no not share wasn't share Share was also inducted she was inducted yeah it's just say who Who gave the speech to, there you go. Lawrence Pew. Wow. That's not Florence Pew. She wishes.

Julius Wyatt says, I can't believe I live in a world where Indiana is ranked above Bama and college football ranking. Shut out to my dogs for a big win in Austin. Love the show. Yeah, well, John and I can't really dance about football right now, college football. Brutal. But great games going on, though. That Tennessee Bama game, a bit of a snore fest the first half,

but then it woke up in the second. And I thought George's game with Texas was fantastic. Hey man, you're at 47 thus far. It's pretty damn good. Derek Johnson says, I love this show. Just throwing some support. Derek is always throwing some support. We love Derek.

And Exalted 10 says any opinions on the rumor that part of the reason the wild robot is holding so strong is because young teens are buying tickets for that and sneaking into Terror Fire 3. You know how many people would have to do that in order for it to be a success? You know, like, okay, did like 100 people do that? Did like 200 people do that? Sure. But like even, even if 500 people did it, a thousand people did it. It's still, I mean, how much, it's not enough to really put it up that much.

Like, it's, although, look, we live in a different era. Like, in the way that you could send out a TikTok blast to millions of people to tell them to do that. So who that hell knows? But I don't think so. I think that it's a, well, what's funny about that is I had my friend Sam watch it. she had no idea what it was no clue cried five times watching it and then and then her friend her family when she just said what she had watched with me none of them had heard of it oh wow so um i don't know what do you think about this uh i don't know if we could have been quantified to be honest with you

i mean i used to sneak into movies when i was dirt poor and so i get it and and sneak in the movies that you weren't maybe weren't allowed to see because they were all rated but i don't know how many theaters still do like still have that possibility right because it's a science Seating everywhere you go. So are you going to risk, you know, going toe to toe to with somebody because you're sitting in their seats? I mean, did you check and see that it's an open theater? That's right. It's not a lot of seats. So it takes a lot of effort. It does. It does. It's not like if it was like 15, 20 years ago, I remember I had to sneak into Ford Fairlane. Best. Carl and Rutte. You know what happened?

Those pedals, I'm dying over. That, he was like the first guy to get canceled. I mean. Yes, he actually legitimately got canceled. There's a lot of people who used that word. Didn't get fucking kidding. Because it was like they let him into the party. And then he's doing the same thing he was doing when they let him into the party. And then he decided, no, we don't like that anymore. And then they turned on him like Nora Dunn at the Saturday Live thing and MTV.

And then. All people are done sanctimonious Nora. Well, it was so funny was that whole, that whole movement with him with Dice was that that movie, Fort Fairland was supposed to get, that was when he was at the height of his powers. And when he shot it. And so they were going to put it in, it was supposed to get big wide release, and then he gets canceled. They put it in no theaters. I remember the theater that they put it was called the quartet.

It was on Northern Boulevard. And it was the only place that was showing it. And I had to sneak into it, dude. It was like, it was bad. I mean, the movie, I like the movie. I love that movie, too. I think it's, you know, you don't be fun as if we did a reaction of that movie all these years later. 100%.

But I'd be that. Who would watch it, though? Who would, besides me and you? we literally would just do it to watch the movie i think your audience is a little nice there's some dice fans in the audience i think no wonder carlton rudder london calling well done to liverpool in your book who is a better actress tilda swinton sercy ronanne florence pew or anna teller joy a new teller joy um better actress i'd have to still give it to tilda because she's got more years more experience i think if you if you take her out of the mix and you put the because of the

younger ones you got seriously ron and florence pew and you tell her joy florence i still go florence i'm probably gonna i mean look after the seeing that that movie yeah she's pretty damn good in that i mean look i never i never doubted her talent that was never the conversation that was never the conversation she's pretty damn good and she's really good in that movie but and you tell her joy pretty damn good too but yeah i think i'm and it's so seriously ron i'm i haven't seen her new movie though have you yeah the outrun is a good review for it it's so good okay it's excellent in that movie i hope they hope she gets nominated because i don't think it did well in the box office no it didn't she is excellent

of that i want to see it uh west nelson so i'd probably go for in spue by the way west nelson hey guys if you started season two of shrinking i started the series last week and finished a day later i was presently surprised how good it was well the whole season you mean season one and then you finish because season two i think there's only one or two episodes out so far i did start season episode one i haven't watched two yet have you how do you watch this series i haven't not watch the series yet i got to get on this series i think you'd like i even watch severance i got to watch severance well this is a lot lighter than severance uh derrick johnson turn to support thank you shah markell question was sophia really a friend to us i say no i i think i think early on

yeah because she was such a i really love the way that they kind of marinated her character i think i think she legit felt for him i i think she felt for him for a bit and then she got caught up in the anger and everything else too and kind of did what everybody else did to him. And I think that that's what set him on the path to ultimately kind of say, okay, I'm going to do my thing now. I don't know. It's a good question.

She's a privileged rich kid. Yeah, that's true. Awesome. Who went, like when it was convenient for her to be nice to Oz, she was nice to Oz, but when Oz tried to warn her away from the reporter, remember her reaction. She's like, you're just a freaking driver. Well, that's what I'm saying.

And then what she said your opinion. So that's what she set him off. But that set him off. Imagine if she didn't do that. You can't imagine that was the only time. time she's done that. I think that was she did it one time too many and it was right when Oz wanted to make a move. I'm sure she was verbally abusive to him a number of times. He was getting to know what it was like to be a driver. And even when he was in the house, she's like, what are you doing inside? You know,

and so there was this thing. So yeah, I think there's a, I don't know about friend, but certainly maybe she used him as a counsel when it was convenient for her, but then dismissed him when it was convenient for her as well i see so many people trying to be sophia apologists you remember she said i want to take over the kingdom and i was happy to take it like she made the deal with her dad to take over his crime empire yeah she's always been no she's not but she did get screwed right yes a hundred percent yeah um all right next one this is francisco lopez yesterday was a stressful night with my metz and my jets lost but at least my liberty or w nba champs well that's

What's right? Hey, hey, the guy likes the liberty. Come on. Give me a break guy. Go back and watch that. I mean, the foul disparity in the finals. They said they got, that's right. I saw the coach said that they got screwed, right? She said they stole this. That's right. I saw that. I saw it. I know nothing about the WNBA. What team is Kate is Caitlin on? Indiana fever. And so were they even in the thing?

They got in the playoffs, but they got knocked out in the first round real quick. Okay. the Connecticut son. Okay. And then so that's when the whole audience stopped watching basically. I don't know. I haven't seen the numbers. There's no, I would love to see the numbers. The second, the second they got eliminated. I'm sure everybody stopped watching. But Sabrina's celebrating when she was one of 19 for five points in a finals game. Get out of you with that stuff. You know more about it than I do. Um, so let's get to the next one here again for hitting 50. John hits 50 once again. You got to that's be it's got to be a record.

Thank you. Francisco Lopez. Now I'm rooting for the Yankees to win the World Series. Now that's a real New Yorker, but that's a real New Yorker. It's like, you know, it's,

to me, just because if you're a Mets fan and you just, like, I'm so curious with my neighbor is, who he's going to root for? Because, you know, he said that thing about my second favorite team is, yeah,

but are you going to root for the team that knocked the Mets out of the playoffs? Yeah. You know, it's a New York team. Bring home the title. So he's his choice. Yeah,

I'm rooting for the Yankees to win the series to support my father the Yankees his favorite team and my city and that's also that you know that's also fair um go paul sam godaharan i just saw your video with gregg it reminded me that my mom took me to see the golden child in the theater when i was seven or eight yeah excuse me oh it was it was rough um greg started gregg alba started a podcast and so he asked me to do it virtual and wait another one how many of his well he doesn't he doesn't have any podcast he just this is his first um he does like a long he doesn't do any long form he just started he did the diary of the real rejects podcast so it's like a full hour kind of interview so i did um i i was i did the episode with him and we just talked

for a bit and we talked about like rated our movies and i'm and i was thinking about how i've told my mom this like i was trying to remember i know that there was one or two i always said there's two movies that i know that i saw in the theater i know which one i saw with my mom and which one i saw my dad and i was like which is the first rated our movie you saw and i saw vision quest with my dad I saw Beverly Hills cop with my mom. And I was like, oh, Beverly Hills Cop was actually 84. The only one's 85. So it was my mom.

And my mom, if you knew my mom, like, you'd be like, it was an accident that we wound up there because there's no world where she would have taken me to see that. She wouldn't even let me watch Three's company on TV. So, yeah. So Beverly Hills Cop, but she also spent money on it. We ain't leaving, you know, so. Oh, right. Right. So I remember seeing that.

And to this day, she's like, that. never happened. I didn't tell you. I was somebody else who looked just like it because I went and I saw that movie. But yeah, so I just, I remember seeing that for sure. That's great. Yeah. That's awesome. That's a great thing for Greg. Of course. Yeah, it's, it was, it was good. I had, it's so funny though, too, because like I said, and going back to what we said before, I want to make, like, I wanted to kind of follow the same advice I can give people who are on this show or other things too. It's like, I went into the comments for a section for a minute. And I'm like, why am I doing this to my go and I left because like a lot of it was positive but then you know

you see one guy who's just like that was the way that comment came from about the well he used to be positive but he's negative all the time and I can and now he's just doing reactions and he said he used to hate people who do reactions which I never said said there are people who overcook it there are some people and you see them doing reactions and it's like that you know someone will do something and it's like it's like someone picks up an apple oh whoa oh I hate that shit and that's not what Greg does Greg they don't those guys don't do that but like yeah I still hate that shit it's like it's not real it's like when it's real it's like that that that's the whole point and and so um yeah i was and it was the same thing that was someone on one of the shorts we've been doing

we've been doing a lot of the shorts from the deadpole wolverine thing and they've been they've done very well for us the little shorts but they're like 15 20 seconds and some you know as dice would say asshole face com comments on the thing goes well reactions when you actually react and say things i'm like watch the two two-hour freaking video, you stupid moron. And it's like that kind of, I didn't, but I didn't comment. I was like, I'll leave it alone. So I stay away from that stuff.

Josh Vaskervic. Hey, guys, happy birthday, John. Mine is Saturday. October's the best month. Our birthdays, Halloween, and the post season. Right, MLB. Yes. Yeah.

It's a good month. I forget that you're, and you miss the Libre stuff, right? Yeah, I'm a Scorpio. Yes, you are. They definitely are. Josh Vascovitz, the Dodgers, the Dodgers, the Dodgers, fans here. What are some pop culture equivalents to this world series? Stone Coal versus the rock, Nirvana versus Pearl Jam, Bugs versus Mickey. What do you think?

Godzilla versus Kong because like these are the two legendary stories, right? Lakers, Bulls. Yeah. Lakers Celtics. Yeah. These are led, these are two legendary baseball teams in the history of the entire MLB. Tyson Ali. Tyson Ali. Yeah, if they were to face each other in their primes. Yeah, let's say so. That's a fair point. I think that's a good comparison. Hank Pimp, is Tiffy time to cash in at WWE Crown Jewel? You've been watching? Yeah, I don't think she'd cry. I don't think she'd cash in. How do you watch all this stuff? You're watching sports. You're watching politics. You're watching movies. How do you watch all this?

I don't have kids, buddy, boy. That's probably true. That's a good answer. No offense to anybody's at kids. God love you. No respect. I'm happy not having kids. And I enjoy my free time. And God love you if you had kids. What do we say about the movies? Yeah. It's great. If you like it.

Yeah, exactly. 100%. Yeah, no, it's true. You can stay up to three in the morning and wake up at any time you want. It doesn't hurt you. You don't have somebody going, Mama, da da. Yeah. And I have a very supportive life partner who doesn't need me to be around her all the time. So it's great.

It helps me. Yeah, I understood. Cowboys fan 92. Hey Harleff and John, happy Monday and happy early birthday to John. Sorry for going off topic, but earlier day, the CEO of Warner TV has confirmed that HBO Harry Potter series will be more in death than the films were. I guess dealing more with death with death. Is that what it is? In depth, right? Or in depth? He said he said in death, but I think he means in depth, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope so. Well, you would hope that's the whole point. So you want to dive into

the books themselves. And I think that's what I always thought. I push back against anybody who says it's not a good idea to do that series. Oh, yeah. I think it's smart as hell. Very smart. Very smart. You can die because you can do what they do with Percy Jackson. You can do, you can really break it down. You got to, I mean, if I'll tell you, and they won't do this,

because Warner Bros. and HBO does not do this. If they make these episodes, half an hour episodes, I'm throwing things at the television. Yeah, yeah. They won't. They don't. HBO Max, I mean, look at the penguin. The penguin's over an hour long. If it was Disney Plus, it'd probably be 23 minutes. They hired the woman from Succession, which I,

broke on the hot mic months ago and she is not going to be doing a half hour show like she is going to be diving in deep they're going to explore everything right and what's been the main complaints from harry potter fans is that these movies only skim the surface of what is in these books so of course they're going to be in death makes me kind of want to go back and reread the books yeah yeah ian davis best director of all time between these five scorsese spilberg tarentino nolan or james Cameron. I love to know both your thoughts on this. Of all time is so hard because Cameron doesn't really have a lot of misses, right? But he also doesn't have as many movies as the rest of them. So if you look at box office, he's the goat box office.

Totally. Totally. Yeah. So I was Cisorsese because just the amount of classic films and the fact that he's endured for decades and decades and decades and made great films in each of the decades that he's made movies, I think speaks volumes. Spielberg is much more of a populist filmmaker. If there was more Schindler's lists on his list on his resume, then I would kind of veer a little bit closer to Scorsese, but I just think Scorsese overall found that sweet spot of making artistic films that are also widely consumed by mass audiences, and that's a really difficult thing to do. And so I think he's the best of the five. But Tarantino is great, but he's fun. you know what i'm saying he's making great movies but they're really kind of 70s omages almost all of

them so no one where do you put nolan in there too too young still i think nolan is still a little young but he's getting there for god's sake he's getting there i mean i don't the dunker is the only one that i haven't really liked to know and so did you like tenant oh yeah 10 i guess ten i enjoyed that experience way less than dunker dunker dunker i like the good movie i really i really love dunker but um 10's probably my my least favorite is um But yeah, they're all, you can, I think that you can make a case for any one of them. I really do think you can make a case for any of them. It's hard to argue against it.

Because Spielberg, what's funny is that I actually prefer his stuff that he does now, like the Post and all those other things, more so than the big budget blockbusters now, because I just don't think it's the same type of blockbuster making these days. And I think that he is, I don't know, I don't think he's got it the same way that he used to with those. but with those other movies I really did and Save Private Ryan is actually my favorite Spiller movie I know you're not a big fan of that one right after the first 30 minutes no the whole movie the first 30 minutes are great the whole movie's wonderful

it's great um so yeah so that's but again I could if anybody picks any of those I would say I understand I think Cameron you can make the least strongest because he doesn't have enough he doesn't have enough um Francisco Lopez I want to be and you know what is about Cameron also John is that he doesn't outside kind of going off the point you made before he doesn't have those smaller saving private Ryan movies or the you know or the or the or more

Oscar movies he's got all his movies are big huge movies for the most you could argue Terminator is the only right legitimately small and that's only because that's all he had that's all the money that he was able to do um Francisco Lopez I want to be excited for daredevil but the things that keep me worried is that it's a Disney plus show and all the live action MCU shows are okay at best, but I love Wanda Vision. I love Loki and what if and Hawkeye also the shows are not consistent with their runtimes and that bothers me. Am I crazy for that? No, you're not crazy for that. That's what we're just talking about with the runtimes. That's a great point. We're just talking about that with Harry Potter, right? Like I hope that Deer Devil on Netflix

was like 45 to 55 minutes or mostly 55 minutes to an hour I thought. I don't know what it is about I'm thinking more and more so it's it is a Disney plus thing because I used to say it's just a Lucas film thing because their shows are so short but I mean Agatha doesn't need to be an hour I think Agatha works finds a 35 40 minute show but no this this show should be daredevil should be an hour long if it's 35 minutes it's going to be a problem yeah yeah you think what do you think you think it's going to wind up being I think a healthy amount of skepticism is good going into this situation because remember they stopped midstream to start all over again so you you hope that it's for all right

reasons but we don't know so um and i do think the the runtimes will be varied because they're this is the longest um series they're ever going to do right because it's like or that they've done to this point it'll be like 20 episodes or 18 episodes yes no not doing they're not doing 18 anymore well what do they say for daredevil daredevil they think they're doing more so i think it's i think it's 10 or something they they were going to do 18 initially and i think they pulled back i mean Fact check me on that, but I'm pretty sure that they're not doing 18 anymore. Okay. Well, either way, then if they're not doing 18, I think these will be 35 to 40 minutes each,

or 45 minutes each episode. That's what I think. Yeah. Okay. So Derek Johnson throwing in some more support there, as he always does. Oh, okay. Well, it's, okay. It says season one is nine episodes.

The season two is nine episodes. So maybe it's not a split it up a little bit. Let's split it up. Yeah. Derek Johnson, what are your feelings about reality TV? Has it dumbed us down as a viewing audience, or is it a different type of gladiatorial spectacle for this age? I mean, it's been around for so long now. I mean, ultimately, people will throw back, I think, not correctly and say, well, Survivor started it all in 2000.

It's not true. Real World started it all back in, like, the 90s. I would say before OJ started at all. OJ is the original reality TV. That's true, too. That's where the producers. went wait wait a minute we'll sit here all day and watch this core case it wasn't real it wasn't wasn't real world before oj I don't know I think a real world was

right after maybe a couple of years maybe but the same check yeah but you same same but I think that it's always been it's a genre you know and I think that it's there's there's more just like there's trashy television script that there's they get trash here and trash here and there's some that are really smart and there's some that really work well and there's other like I like the cooking shows and things like that I still find myself watching those things because I found like that to me like I like watching the skill and those you know what I'm watching now like I canceled after one season but I'm watching it with my my seven-year-old is the Dr. Seuss baking show on

Amazon it's it's not great but it's just I get to my but my little one is just like she wants to watch it she curls up with me we watch we watch it and they're building you know nonsense right so whatever well yeah so real world was 92 okay and then OJ's 94 so yeah what you're argue is because that's MTV that's very much a you know like a cable channel so that was their first foray into seeing if this works i think oj is where it went all these big networks were like wait a minute you can do so much more with right yeah yeah you know yeah um armada personally would love to see nolan adapt slaughterhouse five or cat's cradle by kurt ronigan or he could do a remake of dreamscape um

i mean yeah there's so much i mean you just said so many different things of what he could potentially do which would be so great. I mean, I'm excited to hear whatever it's going to be, but I would like to see him. I'd love to see him do a fantasy movie for sure. No offense. Vonnegut is boring. I wouldn't want to see him do a bonnet good thing, but maybe you make it interesting.

Derek Johnson asked your thoughts on the expendables franchise. I feel like the premise was amazing, but Stallone and Statham made it about them. They could have brought in 80s action stars like Cynthia Rathorock, Jackie Chan, Salmon's Hung, and others. I think it lost its way. I think that they started it pretty good. I think it lost its way, and I hated.

the fake blood. I hated the fake blood. It drove me nuts. It drove me nuts. And I think that they could have taken it a little bit more into the 80s, like kind of, it got too big. And it got, and it, it, but the first one, I remember, I mean, I can't even tell you. I remember some of them, but the first one, the second one, I remember thinking, you know, I was enjoying myself, but it lost the luster. I think the third one, yeah, because they started casting less capable actors to play the ensemble. And that, I mean, why is Ronda Rousey in that movie, for God's sake? So, or those boxers that they brought in, you're like,

these guys connect with nothing. So that's when they beard away from that, yeah, it became an issue. But I thought the first two, I thought the first one was really good. I thought the second one's good for Van Damme, who play, who's arguably the best villain of all three of those movies. And Bandarison, the third one is a lot of fun with Harrison Ford. So, you know, there's watchable things about all of them, but yes. It should be strong.

Yeah. Mike Joyce, any interest in Conclave, the trailer looks great. I think that I had, the first time I heard about it was last week in Gambino, too, I didn't see the trailer yet, did you? Yeah, Conclave, I've watched all the trailers and I'm seeing it tomorrow. Which one is that? 430. The Ray finds Poplar.

Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right. Eric Kirby, Mr. Roker. When is Game Time airing this week? I don't know. Winston is out of town next couple of days, so I may have to do it myself. That's my fault. do it tomorrow after Monday night. Yeah, that's my fault.

Oh yeah, you sent him to the Ultraman thing? Yeah, he's doing the Ultraman thing for us. He's going for Netflix. He's going to do... I know. I apologize. Armada, I'd love it, but would torture Christian as if he's Arnold and kindergarten cop, if we had a show

with Roka, Christian Snyder, and Kalinowski should be a donation request. Oh, my God. I don't know. I wouldn't... I think that would be a fun show. The four of us trying to do a... That's an after dark show. Well, not necessarily. I mean, you guys, all of you guys can talk.

I mean, that's business. I mean, the business side of things. And Kalinowski, you know, it says the question is, who's grouchier? It depends on what mood you're in. But it depends on the subject. But I think overall grouchiness, Kalinowski and Snyder could go in a battle there. But I don't know if those two have ever been on the air together outside of Shmowdown. I don't know if they would be able to.

Especially, you know, what happened. Yeah. Jason fast force little movie trivia genre sci-fi category quotes name the movie who who is it this time my mother also I think Roka is a professional critic well there you go thank you so what is who is it this time my mother I don't know you know that one

I don't know this one Jason's gonna have to let us know the answer oh someone said who is Dupa Lippa you don't know who Dupilipa is when you ain't paying attention Dupes is probably someone who'd never watched this show before it's like i had um there's two things that are great about that first of all when we first started saying that on the show um roxy because brett and i started saying dupa dupa roxy was on a conference call with all the younger kids from after buzz and she oh yeah

didn't realize she said dupa lepa and she said they all looked at her like she was a basic bitch her words not mine um and so that was hilarious um and then when my wife was on the show with me we're doing reaction and she's and something like doopalipa and I look at her she goes like I'm not doing that with you I said armada Anthony Cheesman's going to get blocked you know why why I think I'm gonna block why do I think I'm gonna block him I don't let me see the chat anymore he said he said he said he said she's more attractive than Julia Roberts and blocking who is Florence Pugh oh no maybe saying Dupalipa is he saying Dupalipa is he saying Dupalipa he said Dupa

hard i'm not hard for me hard for me to say right now that she's not more attracted i'm not gonna be an idiot i'm saying i mean jupil duple leap is like make you sneakie stop being tracks uh armada kalanowski and roka politics show be warned oh my god no way you be screaming at each other even if you're on the same page uh so this is and i'm i'm kidding by though it wouldn't be anything uh christian unpronounceable i love to know if you've seen my favorite movie of all time the man from earth it's a small one room story of it affecting me the most no did you see that one the man from i've seen the man who fell to earth david bowie one but not the man from earth yeah interesting okay yeah so there you go uh no i haven't i haven't to check that one out hadn't heard that one

dr zeus uh zeus uh i always have loved listening we can never watch live with work silver lying to being homesick i get to watch you guys been following guys since you guys popped up on an old movie fights well thank you dr zeus i appreciate you being here with us and enjoying uh the show thank you so much those with the days christian got me into that show that's right um we're 57 right now but 57 you think he hit 60 before we sign off come on how close are we 57 uh steve s hey guys a few months my local cinema closed it opened with new independent chain owners recently and i saw seven samurai with a 4k remastered That's cool. That's awesome. Amazing experience with an almost full house.

Hopefully cinema isn't gone just yet. And that's, I mean, that's the type of stuff that needs to start happening. Some more and more generations kind of pick it up. But that's a great story. That's why I do my podcast. We've been doing it for nine years, the cinefiles. We go into classic movies every week to talk about them, one movie every week. And I love doing it because it's my way of touching base with why I fell in love with movies. and if you really want to hear my critical analysis of films, that's where you go. Because we just did a three-hour episode where we broke down the second half of The Natural, the 1984 film, with Robert Redford.

And so we go bone deep. And so that's what I love about doing that because it's a way of getting back in touch with classic cinema and keeping it alive. And a lot of people listen to us every week, like 30, 40, 50,000 download for a week. So it's a really nice podcast that I enjoy doing. You know, speaking of the natural, we were going to, I was just looking at, I was just looking. we were going to do at this point we're about 10 years into we were i was i always planned on starting the schmodeown hall of fame after year 10 oh and we're we we would have been a year 10 this year well um so it would have a bill set it up i know no thanks uh hang pym i just went to dollywood for the

first time and threw up what's the strangest place that you've thrown up i mean i don't know it would have been a strangest place ever thrown up i don't think about that um i don't think sort of thrown up in a strange place. Yeah, I'm not sure. Just like out of nowhere. I can't. I mean, I mean, I guess this isn't, this is, I guess this is a car for the, part for the course, but I went to, uh, Mardi Gras.

I remember just on the street. Like, hey, I want to do it here. And just keep on walking. Yeah. Uh, Derek Johnson. Thank you so much, my friend. And then Hank Pimp, a music artist that you'd like to have, you'd like to have their own park, Rolling Stones.

You're kidding me? The Rolling Stones. great have their own park like their own like amusement park great i guess you can hear the stones all day i suppose yeah i'm i forget you're a beetles guy right i am yeah i'm a stones guy stones are garage man say what stones are a garage band you know what come on rolling stones are cool i think elvis should have his own damn theme part probably probably right fast jason fast horse for you and roca name your favorite memory from the old Collider days when I left. And also

I think you missed my first question. I got your first question. I got your first question. I think I did. John, you go ahead. You bring up a memory. Favorite memory? I mean, interviewing the Rock twice. What do you want for me? I mean, Baywatch and Jamonji. I went back and rewatch those interviews over the weekend.

Because they try to bury my stuff on that site now and you can barely find it. But like, yeah, every once in a while, I go back and rewatch those and so yeah i appreciate it yeah yeah those great memories and christian hooked that up for me so i'll always be appreciative of that you know because i was so nervous to interview the rock and jack black and uh he's a good one and uh and kevin hard he had the bell i saw the picture this had the picture the day but jason i got sure the question it was the movie quote um unless there was another one after that but i but i i answered um but yeah i mean i would say the

The schmodeown, the schmown, for sure is hilarious. You want to hear something hilarious? Is that Mike Joyce knows me so well. This is, this is a back, you know, this backed up. So Mike Joyce said Christian's answer is going to be leaving. 100%. Yeah, that one, if I go back again, I would have said no. Let's see.

Wait, you would have said no to joining. I would have said, I would have just kept, if I can go back in time, if I was go back in time, I would have had Mark Ellis and I do the Shmo's No show with the two of us doing movie reviews. And knowing that what I do now, doing a YouTube channel, just the Shmows, no, YouTube channel, the two of us doing reviews all the way through to now, nothing else. No Schmo down, no collider live, nothing. That's what I had a million.

You might have hit a million. Because that and also just knowing it and because it's just way more, like knowing how it works now and in general. And less, way less stressful than all that stuff too. Oh, yeah. Yeah, New York truck. Samantha Irvin just announced she's leaving WW. Yes, I was going to tell you. Breaking news, Christian, your favorite answer is leaving WW.

Who are they going to get to do it now? They're going to need someone to scream and yell. How dare you. Yeah, that woman was one of the best things since Finkel. Well, I think she's going with ricochet at AEW. Interesting. They're going to have her do that. She's going to scream to an empty arena.

Screwface John. Hey. Try. People try to. On Roka. Oh, people try to shit on Roker for being woke, but I'm with it. Even if I don't always agree, sometimes I feel like if we don't get represented as much as an elect we get told to get over it, a lot. I deal with it. Let's see, although the snow white actress is tripping. Yeah. Yeah, she definitely is. Well, thank you for that sport. He's the back. Thank you, Scrooface. We always appreciate Scroo. Joyous, Romer. May the force be with you. Are you guys excited for Skelton Crew? I'm not going to say excited, but I'm not going to say excited, but I'm.

But I'm curious and I'm rooting for it. That's a contrary to belief here. I am going to be rooting for this show. And I like John Watts a lot. So I'm really hoping this show is going to be good. I want it to be a surprise and I want people to go, that's how you do it. That's how you do it.

I want me and you on the week after it comes out and go, who knew that this show is going to be so good? That's what I want. But that's what I want. But I don't have hope for it. Am I, how are you feeling about it? Yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic. Like I'm, I wanted to be good.

I hope it's good. Nothing I've seen has made me concerned about how good it is. And I know some people took my comments from a few weeks ago on the show and, and misconstrued it. And when I said that Disney was concerned about how it was going to be received because of what, how other shows have been received before. I wasn't saying Disney knows they have a bad show, you know,

but people just ran with it to aggregate it. I was expressing because I think all of us are looking at this going like, okay we're wondering how this one's going to be received because I already see people coming for it from the anti-woke side of things and so it's going to be exhausting to get into that again but you know I just want it to be good and I hope it's good I really hope it's magical yeah that's that's the thing right is I want I hope I really hope that it's good and I hope that it plays into whatever they're trying to do because it's supposed to like be part of this kind of universe right but the Flonio Favre you universe but I don't I don't know I saw some comment this is a completely off subject that about um we were talking about John Favreau and how he kind of took he was the one who was really championing uh to get downy as as their relationship and all that I remember when downy downy was around silver pictures all the time because he was at the time dating Susan down he was now as his wife now his wife um and he used to be around all time and I remember when they were talking about him getting that

movie and talking about how what john had done and and someone in the comment section was like i don't know what you're talking about it was terence howard it's like now terence howard also put his support in for him but it was it was it was john fabro like 100 percent it was john so sometimes people make up their own things i don't know um that's it john we did it you end the day here at 61 nice very very nice start 61 and we are going to have roxy on tomorrow see if she can top that but but and we just just She'll be doing some TV stuff. And that's it.

I miss rocks. You haven't done a show of rocks yet. Have you? Put me on with rocks. I miss rocks. Well, nobody, I don't let anybody touch the Monday show. Mondays your, Monday's your, Monday's your, you're, you're, let me come on a rock show.

Let me come on. Are you, aren't you busy during the week? I haven't asked you to do a second. Over something. Come on. It's good TV. It is good TV. You know, it's, if you're going to be around, like on days, like, you know, because

like, I should, that was the case. I didn't know you. I would have had you on last week because, because, because, um, Boy wasn't there. Oh, yeah. If you just reach out. If I've got time, I'll make time. I never thought about that before.

I missed the people. Yeah. So someone said there's no threat to break legs because the record wasn't broken. Roker's going soft. It's a Monday, man. That's a Monday. I've had a busy week, man. That's why he wants to be on the Friday show.

A Friday show is going to be strapped the rocket launcher. Yeah, can I combine the two? Yeah. All right. You got anything that real quick that you want to plug? Please, as I said, my Pinguine reaction is up for episode five. We got a review coming at 3 p.m. PT from the geek buddies this afternoon. And then we'll have, I'll let you know about game time, what we're going to do with that.

But of course, later on this week, geek buddies, we just locked down Jedi Way as we were doing the show. So there will be a new Jedi way this week as well. And some more stuff coming down the pike. YouTube.com slash John Roker says, I'm at 35,000. Would love to get to 50. Some of you could head on over there and subscribe. I'd really appreciate it. Trust me, it's good content over there.

Thank you very much. And thanks, Christian. Thank you, Joe. We'll see you guys. I'll see John really soon. And thank you guys for being here, as always. We're on Apple. We're on Spotify. We're everywhere podcasts. Make sure you check us out. I have Venom the last dance. I'm going to be doing that of the theater reaction for that one tomorrow. So we're going to be doing that. I have a reaction that I'm doing of Alien Romulus with Sam. Shouldn't see that. That comes out tomorrow. We've got the Wild Robot with Sam on Friday. And I got a Agatha. reaction with my wife coming out this week. So we have a lot of stuff here. So make sure, and if you haven't checked out, you can be a member. There's a lot of people who gifted memberships here. You can do a member. You can become a patron. If you're into the UAP phenomenon, you want to check that out, check out my other channel, which is down to earth with Christian Horleaf. You can check that out. But that's it. That's everything here today.

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