The Kristian Harloff Show - DAVID DASTMALCHIAN talks Late Night With the Devil, Oppenheimer, Dune, James Gunn+ more! | Interview

Episode Date: March 21, 2024

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What's going on, everybody? Happy Thursday. This is a special episode. It's a shorter episode, but it's worth it. There is a brand new movie. It's coming out, and it is called Late Night with the Devil. It stars David Dalsmaltan, which, if you've been following me for a little bit, you know, I had a chance to speak with David back in the Collider Live days,

and you've seen them kind of posting in a video for Shmodown. This guys worked with everybody, whether it was Christopher Nolan, Deneve, Leneuve, James Gunn, the amount of movies this guy has been in and the great performances, I mean he was just in Dune, he was in the suicide squad, and now he's leading his own movie with this film Late Night with the Devil. So I'm very excited for you guys

to see this interview. It's really a great conversation. David's one of my favorite people. I love how open he is. I love about how he continuously, he talks about the adversity he had in his life, how he overcame it, but also just other things, and the way that he approaches everything from work

to life, and especially this particular role, so I hope you enjoy the conversation. If you're brand new to the channel, you've never been here before, subscribe to the channel. We have interviews like this. We have out of the theater reactions. We have regular reactions. We have movie reviews. We have full podcast. If you're into the UAP phenomenon, we have that. So we have all of this stuff, man. So hopefully you enjoy this interview. Please leave your comments. Click the like button. And without any further ado, it is the big thing with myself and David Dalsmaltz. Let's get to it.

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It's going to be streaming on Shutter on April 19th. It was, whether he was on the show right now or not, I would say it, and I've said it before, one of my favorite interviews at Collider Live when I was there. Ladies and gentlemen, please, as always, give a nice warm welcome to David Delsmouch and everybody. David, it's so good to see you, man. How you doing? Dude, thanks for having me.

I'm great. And, boy, I can't ask for a better introduction. I feel like I need you to come and when I go to pick up my kids from school, let me take a recording of that. So they're so embarrassed of me. Why? Why can't they think I'm cool? How old are your kids now? Nine and six.

Oh, dude, I get it. I got a six-year-old and a 12-year-old. So it's like, especially the 12-year-old, I am, she told me I have no Riz. I didn't even know what that meant. Me either. Me either. I had no clue.

Yeah. My kid, he turns beat red. We'll be in like, you know, a Starbucks other day. See somebody with a cool guitar. And I went, I wanted to go over and be like, hey, what's, and he's like, dad, don't you go, don't. talk, don't talk to them. Please don't. Your God, it's like, all right, man.

I know. I was like, dude, I was in Batman. I'm cool. I'm cool. I got no cool with these kids. Someday, someday, hopefully they look back and be like, oh yeah, dad, that was pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'll tell you what's cool, man. I said to you before we started shooting, I said, you are

an absolute natural when it comes to hosting a late night television show. I mean, this movie, first of all, I love the swings that this movie takes because I have been and my my audience is sick to death of me hearing we talk about how budgets and movies are just so overblown now and that I wish that you could just kind of go back to old school filmmaking this movie is that this movie this there are there are things like they reminded me of some of the special effects from the thing in this I don't I don't want to give it away but there's a

particular moment that I'm like oh that's so old school right there and I love it um so tell me about that mean tell me about hosting a late night talk show was that daunting? It was so daunting, man. The prospect of having to convincingly, convincing. There's the trick. Like, yeah, you go, oh, as an actor, people say, you know, oh, what's something you haven't gotten to do yet? What's something that you wish you could do? And I, there's thousands of things. I want to play so many different types of humans. I want to try and, you know, capture and manufacture and manifest the, the essence of all different types of people from all different walks of life. But that doesn't mean that I can do it convincingly every time, right?

Like, it's my job to put on the costume, learn the lines, and try my best to manifest something that tells the story and feels authentic. The danger, and by danger, I mean the creative danger, the fear, the thing that scares me, is the idea of like taking on something, which I've had an opportunity to do a number of times in recent years, but nothing as strong as what happened with late night and the devil, late night with the devil, is taking on something that feels so outside of my capabilities as an actor,

that feels so distant from what I think I could do well, and saying yes. And that, as I approached the starting line, And luckily I had a few months of preparation time, so I was able to really download into my brain and subconscious hundreds of hours of like 70s late night talk shows. But I got to say, man, that's like telling, you know, it was about as is on par with telling me, Dave Dismolich, and you're now going to be cast in the, you know, the Joe Namath story. We're going to have you play in a, you know, all-star quarterback. Whatever the thing is like a host of a talk show, it's like, that's, there's so many elements to that that need to be perfectly captured, not just in the way, you know, I don't think I look by any means like somebody that would ever get the job as a late night talk show. I definitely don't think I have the sense of humor for it or the quickness.

And yet I said yes, I took the challenge on and I'm really grateful. I even would say I'm proud of myself that I did. I have a weird hang up with the word proud just because it's like it's whatever.

I don't know why. Probably my own shit that I got to work through. Like I am proud, not of the performance. I'll get there. I hope. But I'm just proud of the fact

that I was so afraid of something and I still went for it. Because even if I had crashed and burned and failed with this thing, I still know it was something that I was going to learn a lot from. Well, dude, that's your story. I mean, I remember talking to you the first time.

That's your stories, in general, is that fear of what, you know, life brings at you and being able to jump over that and say, okay, yeah, maybe those things got in my way, but I've got to be able to focus on something I want to do and go for it. And you did it again here. I mean, we've talked about that. And for, and you've talked about it. So many, the life struggles that you've had, you've talked about it openly a few different times and how you've overcome that and to get to this place. And what you just told me just now, I'm not surprised to hear that, that this was something that you wanted to tackle and did because you were very, very believable as a talk show host, because that's, honestly, that's one of the things.

I know you well enough. I followed your work well enough that I knew. It was like when I saw because a fan actually sent me the trailer way before we even had this set up, a fan that goes, you got to check this out. Look at how crazy this movie looks. And I That's nuts. That's so cool. Yeah.

If that fan is, uh, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is,

when we're going, like, please, please know how grateful I am to you. And every fan that's out there that has been, there's been this like, swell of support for the movie that's grown, you know,

slowly, but steadily since we first premiered at South by Southwest. Yeah. Um, when you have a tiny, tiny film like this. We had so little money. You know, you don't have like some big crazy budget cooked into doing any like long run marketing. You don't have anything other than the goodwill of the people at festivals. You might see a thing and get excited about it. We got so lucky

with the team behind helping cut the trailers and doing the key art and all of that because that stuff, if it's not done right, people just go right past it. But this stuff, to me, the way the materials have been cultivated and curated feel like you're really going back to the 1970s in a in a cool way, a new way, a fresh way. And it's the fans, it's like it's nuts, dude. I'm getting

tagged in all kinds of posts in the last 24 hours on Instagram and people are like, you know, blowing it up. And that's just it's such a great feeling because yeah, you go make this thing and you barely got enough money to even get the final frame

shot and you go, man and and and and I knew we were making something special but the this is just confirmation bias now to have you know people like you know those followers yeah sending you the trailer I can tell you exactly it was there's a guy that follows us for us name is Ed harrell and he uh he he was he always tells me one these trailers that I think that I will like and and he's and he's been following the show long enough he knows that you've been on the show before and he was like check this out and and like and as I said in my intro I always root for you I root for you all the time because you were one of the nicest people that came in there.

You were so open with us. When I see, like, you did something very kind. We had the Kevin Smith and Jericho match for the Schmowdown. I asked you to do something that was, you're just a good guy. And I root for you. And I think you're extremely talented. And this proves that in this movie, dude. Because, like, it is, I'm telling you, from someone who's done stand-up for so long,

it's like, that's one thing. Hosting a talk show. And, like, because that is that, you're, is like, well, is he really hosting a talk show? He's hosting a talk show. This movie is a talk show. that happens to be a, it's a movie that is so, that's why I like the swing of it, is that you get the, the, the, the, the, this change, the, and I really like what the director did with the change of style, like when, during the breaks, you go to this black and white so you know, and then once color, it's on, we're back to, and it's, you follow this inside of this exorcism movie, which like this bundle, and to go back to what you just said before about the reason why I think that the fans are responding to it, as I said in my intro, I think we're at a time with, movies right now that people are just tired of like the big just spectacle and they miss that feel that this movie gives you.

I like that you said you're in the kind of nitty gritty and not sure if you have the budget to do it. That seems like all the great movies in the past, the people like that have to fight for it. And you got the passion behind it. It felt like that on scene, right? Absolutely. It felt to me like energetically I was trying to embody and capture the essence of what you felt like when you're first watching those John Cassavetti stuff.

You know what I mean? Got that like, there's something that just feel so authentic and real here. And there's that like, there's that like king of comedy. I know that was a bigger budgeted film in its time, but it still was an independent movie. And it still had that vibe of like, you know, I got to give people the, because for those of you who aren't aware yet with late night with the devil, what you're getting to watch here. Because on October 31st in 1977, Jack Delroy, who was the host of late night of night owls, basically was getting clobbered by Johnny Carson. in the ratings. And so on that Halloween episode, he needed to save the show. So he did something a little, a couple things that were a little ethically questionable. But for him, his, his opinion,

in the good service of saving the show, saving people's job, saving the legacy and the memory of his his wife who's passed. And things backfired. Things went horribly wrong. And so getting to do the presentation, you're watching a 90-minute episode of a late-night talk show from 1977 that we are trying to recreate moment by moment. But then, like you said, because to commercial, there happens to be a documentary crew that was there that night from France that's shooting behind the scenes. You're getting to see, and for me as an actor, what an awesome freaking challenge. That was to be, here I am, presentational, you know, Jag Delroy. And it's great to see you. Thank you, Night Owls for tuning in once again.

Tonight we got something crazy on the show, and I'm going to tell some jokes and I'm going to make you yuck, yuck, yuck, and then I'm going to get deep with you. And you start to think you're getting to know this guy. And you are getting to know. a version of him but then commercial break and it's like guys Gus please can we hurry the F up right got to get this we got to get this joke now right where's June has anybody seen June is she okay that that dichotomy that paradox and by the way before we go too far and I forget Ed if you're there thank you for sending the trailer thank you for being a fan that I know what it's like when you get excited about

something and you see something and you want to share it with people I do it all the time. So the fact that I and my movie was something that you were so excited about and wanted to share that that makes me so that feel that's like the best feeling. Yeah, well, I'm going to do it too now, man, because I've seen it. So I'm like, you know, now I want, I want people to see. You got me on your show, bro. Hell yeah. I'm getting all those ears and eyes.

Yeah. It's great. Yeah. It means the world to me because we don't get a movie like this out to the world without you and people like you because it's just it's it's it is a. very crowded room of a lot of loud voices that often have a lot of amplification by having, you know, millions of dollars to billboard and, you know, spread the word. So when you've got something smaller like this, the goodwill of people and media and fans who are willing to chunk out some time for you to help spread the word, it's, it is invaluable. Yeah, I'm glad that you guys, and you got it at South By, how did it go at South By? So we premiered a year ago this week at South by Southwest, and I had been there once before with a film that I wrote and starred in called Animals, which changed my life.

Animals, one of the most personal stories I've ever told, ended up being in the competition at the festival and won a jury prize for courage in storytelling, which is something I'll always be so proud of. So here I was almost 10 years later with this small movie that I was so proud of that felt intensely personal. And I walked into the Alamo and the place was packed, man. People were like, no one had really known anything about the film yet. There'd maybe been a little bit of imagery released to the public. But like, everyone's just sitting there waiting. And I don't believe this is true. But the fearful person in me, the scared David,

the voice that I think haunts all of us sitting there going, oh, here's 500 people ready to watch this thing fail. Which I don't think is true, but I do, that moment before the frame started rolling, I'm going, oh God, what's going to happen? And the movie starts, and people start laughing, and then they start gasping. And then they start, like, getting out of their seats.

And I was like, yes, it was the best feeling to be in Austin and just we got a great as soon as the movie ended, people went crazy. Good. This is a compliment. It didn't, when I was watching it, it didn't feel like a movie. It felt like a talk show. That's the best compliment. Yeah, that's why.

It didn't, like, I was, because I loved the opening, by the way. I want to spoil it for people, but the opening gives you such a good, as you, brilliantly just talked about what the film was about. It gives you such a good setup in the beginning, but it's documented in a way that you're actually following as if you're watching something on you know just like that old school don't you remember when we were kids you'd be like yes a group of school teachers

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all the stuff that you've worked on, by the way, and you really, I think that what you do very well, and obviously from being a very talented actor and the stuff that you're working on is the main reason. But I think another reason why you are in so much great stuff is because of your attitude. And it seems like, whether it's Deney, and Dune 2, oh, dude, I've watched Dune 1 now. I can't even tell you how many times.

Dune 1 is a masterpiece. Dune 2 is 10 times better. I'm like, how does he keep outdoing himself? How does he keep raising the bar? The guy is such a gift to all of us. We're so lucky to be alive during his time of creation. And you've worked with him what? three times now?

Three times. So prisoners, Blade Runner, this one. He loves killing the hell out of me. That's our ongoing bit. He'll call me and say, David,

I've got a new thing. I'm going to go to kill you terribly. I deeply love you, David. And I want to kill you. It's a good gig to have. It's a good gig to have. You know that he's going to be. It's a great gig to have.

And I love him so much. And he has definitely put me through hell as far as the character. I've played. Yeah. But he is, his sets are by far one of the most

warm, loving, safe spaces you could be playing in. So it's probably why I feel so comfortable going through the, the,

the, the, those experiences. When you think about how, how things ended for poor Bob Taylor in prisoners,

like shooting that day was, yeah, that was, I was so scared, man. I was terrified of doing that scene and what it might you know I'm somebody who's survived suicide attempts and I'm someone who's wrestled with a lot of PTSD and I've someone that struggled with a lot of the things that Bob Taylor was haunted by and so for me going into a okay now we're

going to recreate and try and manufacture a bunch of emotional states of being that are actually very similar to emotional states of being I've had when I've nearly lost my life. It's like, how do I do this and keep my melanon, you know, correct? And, you know, how you do it with someone like, Denise, holding your hand all the way and making you feel like you're completely safe as soon as he yells cut. You're safe, you know? I don't hear, I mean, anybody that I've talked to that's worked with them, anything that you just hear is nothing but stuff like that, man.

I mean, because you hear, you know, in our business, you'll hear the, you'll hear the stuff in front of the camera. and then you'll hear the behind the scene stuff. You're like, yeah, I don't know. The guy, he's all right. That's not, that's not the case with this dude. Plus the fact, he's, he's brilliant, man. He is brilliant.

This guy is best. Because you're talking about one, a lot of people say that, that two is better than one and everything. I don't even know how you can say that to where it's like, that's just one big six-hour movie. What I think is, to me, it's just, there was a necessary amount of narrative world.

building in one that it doesn't to in any way dissuade from the the magnitude of every single scene of that film yeah it's just what was so fun about two because they're connected they're almost like now we're watching one movie the second half of a movie exactly the first half but now now we all know what's happened yep now the shit has hit the fan now it's time for us to go into full battle mode. From the moment that movie starts, it's da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. It just unrelentingly doesn't stop until you are left with your freaking jaw on the floor like I was.

I sat in the theater, dude. Like I was at, I went and I saw a screening of it. It was at Warner Bros. And I sat at the end of two as that just beautiful Hans Zimmer score is playing. And I didn't even realize it. I went, wow. And I just, and I caught myself. I said aloud.

And I was just amazing. I speak of Hans Zimmer. You've had an opportunity to be in so many films that have his music. And I know you're a music guy. So have you ever had a sit down, like, long conversation with Hans Zimmer? Just the, I'm sure. Isn't this wild? It's funny that you bring it up.

I've always been such a fan of Hans Zimmer. And I think he's just, you know, obviously one of the greatest composers of our time in all of the history of film. and I saw him in a photo somewhere recently on Instagram. It was, it was, it was, it was, I forget what, what it was from, but I, I clicked on his, the link to his page because I went to go follow him. Sure. I was like, oh, how am I not following Hans Zimmer? And I saw that he was following me. And I got so excited.

It was one of those moments where I was like, Holy crap, Han Zimmerfalls my Instagram. That was a, I felt very proud of that moment. Yeah, you should. It was pretty darn cool. I do hope I get the opportunity. You know, composers, it's tricky. You don't get an opportunity very often to do that.

There's certain people that you just don't get a chance to connect with editors. Composers, VFX and post-production supervisors who add so many of the elements to the films that people then look at me and go, wow, you were so great in that. And I think there's so many people that added to what made what you think was a good performance by me that get no credit. I mean, think about it, hair, makeup artist, the costume, or people that create this whole reality that I'm getting to be in. It's like I just memorized some lines and stood somewhere. But I think that, oh, look at, I mean, look at these amazing composers I'm getting to work with, who I did get to hang out with him quite a bit on the awards run. like a chill dude. He seems like somebody is so humble. He's so humble. Yeah. He actually, he's old friends with my friend, Ian Holtquist, who was the composer of animals. Ian

used to be in a band called Passion Pit, and I was in a music video for them, and he was trying to get out of the rock business. He wanted to be a composer. And so I said, well, I don't have any money, but if you want to compose my little movie animals, and he threw a pitch to us that me and the director loved. And so we brought him on, and he's been a friend and collaborator ever since. It's amazing. And you know, you mentioned, as you mentioned, the editors and just everybody who else, who a lot of times don't get the credit that they deserve, I really like seeing that at the Oscars that they gave a shot out to all those people. And the other thing, speaking to people that you're working with a lot. And there was a lot of

Nolan love, rightfully so, at the Oscars. And talk, I mean, let's talk about Oppenheimer. We're talking about another movie that I was like, wow. I mean, you, to me, if I If I'm a director, I'm calling you first because every of all the movies that you're in. It's like, look at, look at, you're like a good luck charm also, man. And then what a, what a creepy role that was, too. Everybody, you guys hear that? Put that out, please. Call, uh, Guillermo del Toro and West Anderson.

Yeah. You've never worked with Del Toro, huh? No. You, I would, I would give a, maybe a foot. I definitely give a toe. I might consider giving a foot. Because, I mean, nowadays with prosthetics, I feel like I could have a good fake foot. But I would give quite a bit to be able to be in his lab and play in his in his space.

I loved Pinocchio. I loved Pinocchio. I would, I'm going to say, we'll clip this out and we'll send this to, we'll send this to Deltour because you guys are perfectly matched for each other. Holy moly. Let's talk Nolan. Let's talk Nolan and Oppenheimer. Like, was that another one? As you mentioned prisoners early, you auditioned for that one and then established a relationship with Deney and then you wanted to use you and kill you and everything.

When it is Nolan, one of your first roles is The Dark Knight, if I'm not mistaken. That was the first role I ever had in a film. It was the first time I ever was on a set. Isn't that crazy, dude, how you're able to do that because you stand out in that movie. And I think that's probably in that, obviously I would assume is one of the things that changed your lives. is that it was that film and it was the that like that's like when I think about moments like when I got clean and sober yeah when I met my wife when I was in the dark night those are those watershed moments where the whole course of my life completely changed and was altered by one casting

director John Pabsedera yeah you putting me in front of one director Christopher Nolan who then said you and for whatever reason by luck and fate and hard work and dreaming big and pushing myself through fear, that opportunity now changed my life. And you know, Chris didn't know that it was the first movie I'd ever been in. And so the other night, I was getting to hang out with him for a little bit during Oscars weekend. And I, I thanked him as I always do for changing my life. And my wife, Eve was there with me. And I started talking about the first time I was on his film set was the first time I was on a set. And I think, and he was kind of surprised. Like, I didn't realize that was your first time ever on a film set. I was like, yeah.

Yeah, and then he called me, actually, his producer, Chuck Robyn, who is one of the most prolific producers in Hollywood and has become a mentor to me. And I'm so lucky he really is supported and believes in me. Chuck called and said, Chris has a role that he would like for you to play in Oppenheimer. It's William Borden. So I immediately went and got American Prometheus and read the books so I could learn about William Borden and understand. you know, and and I was just so honored that he would think that I should be a part of his

his movie. Yeah, I mean, and you could tell, like, again, from, is that, so establishing a relationship with these guys that you've done, because Oppenheimer, that's what you did in both Dark Night and in Oppenheimer for the second you show up in that movie, you know, because you have like this,

you can, and this is when you do what you do in late night with the devil, where you're this, and I know you said, you based off like 70s hosts, but I saw a little Fallon in there. I saw a little other people in there that you see throughout the years, which I thought was, but you were able to do that. And the person I'm talking to now, like there are elements of him in there too.

I didn't see that in Oppenheimer because there's like this kind of stare of this just kind of conspiracy nut. This, I don't know, when you're going through that book and you're really learning, like as you said earlier, how do you get out of that place? You know what I mean? Like you're in that place and it's got to be so hard to get out of that place. A lot of tools. It's just like how do you get out of being dysregulated when you get in a fight with your partner or your kids

or you get in a traffic situation where your impulse is to just start screaming or wag your finger out the window or you get somebody piss you off. Your instinct is to start texting. To me, it's very similar. There's that when you're in a space where you feel. like there's any possibility that you're not steering your own ship or you're losing control. To me, it's just a de-escalation process that involves breath work, mental gymnastics, Jedi mind tricks.

You know, I often try to make myself a fly on a wall in a circumstance where I'm starting to feel like I'm getting disconnected from my body. Try to give myself this odd perspective I learned from this wonderful book where I say, I talk to myself in the third person, like, David, you just did a really, You just did a really tough thing with that scene. Are you okay right now? Do you need a... Do you want to just ask if you can go get a drink of water?

I know people watching this and make this dude's nuts. But honestly, guys, we got to learn those tools because, you know, coming out of, let's say, Bob Taylor, blowing his brains out in prisoners. I needed a moment. I couldn't... And it's my job as an actor to be able to reset. Be ready.

Let's do it again. You just sobbed your eyes out. You just tried to, you know, kill somebody or yourself. Great. Good work. Now we're changing the light. We're changing the camera. Do it again.

Do it again. Do it again. That's my job. So I've had to develop tools and skills over the years that I wish, honestly, I had incorporated into my real life before, more than I have before this point. I'm at a stage now in my life and my journey as a grown up where I'm really committed to and seeing the results. Yeah.

The positive results of ways in which I can regulate. And when I start to get fragmented, combating my. my anxiety and depression. And I think it's interesting that I learned a lot about my real life coping mechanisms from my artistic life. Sure. Well, you're having a hell of a run, man. You're having a hell of a run. And last thing I asked you before I let you go here is that, as we mentioned, all these great relationships that you have and all these amazing roles that you have, one of the goals that absolutely loved and laughed my fucking ass off was.

It was in the suicide squad. I absolutely loved what you did in that movie. the relationship that you have with James Gunn, you're not going to tell me, but how likely, I feel like you're going to pop up in Superman. I feel like you're going to show up. I wish, man. I wish your lips to God's ears.

James is awfully busy right now. He's definitely one of the most important people in my life, one of my best friends. I don't get to talk to him as much as I wish I could because he's literally running a studio while making a movie about the most important superhero of all time while, you know, just being the magic madman that is James Gunn. But sure, you know, I would do, if James, whatever James would ask me ever in my journey to do, I would do in a second.

He is one of my favorite humans, but he's also an artist who creates a workshop, a space guided by his vision that is so conducive to the creative process and that makes me feel so great. grateful and lucky as an actor, but equally as much as a fan. So I'm dying to see what he does with Superman, as I know, billions of other people are. And I'm sure you're right in line there. I can't wait. Same. All right, David, as always, man.

It was an absolute pleasure to have you on. Yeah, thanks, man. I hope all these, yeah, Deltoro, James, Denny. I hope all of them will watch late night with the devil. But most importantly, I hope all of your fans will watch late night with the devil. Yeah, we're in theaters. March 22nd. So please, if you can go see it with the group at a theater, see it.

I think it's the best way to experience this film. You'll be locked into it, man. Again, as he said, March 22nd and streaming on Shutter on April 19th, but go check it out in theaters. It is an absolute ride, so make sure you check it out. David, as always, man, you've got to come back again. We've got to do this. Thanks, dude.

That was awesome. All right, peace out. All right, everybody, I hope you enjoyed the interview. I really enjoyed my, I don't even, I got to call this more of a conversation. than anything else because I just liked talking to David and picking his brain and I wish I got to talk to him for like an hour

or two hours because it's that easy to do with him. So go see the movie, especially if you're, as we've been talking about many times over, when these movies that are, these smaller budgets that feel like these throwback to the 70s and the way that this is shot,

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