The Kristian Harloff Show - DEADPOOL 3! Is Taylor Swift a done deal as Lady Deadpool?! (with Kris Carr)

Episode Date: October 2, 2023

PATREON: Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow Deadpool 3 is already a highly anticipated 2024 film but is it about to get even MORE anticipated. There have been rumors for a while that pop superstar Taylor Swift was going to be in Deadpool 3. Now she has been spotted attending a game with Ryan Reynolds, Shawn Levy and Hugh Jackman. Will she definitely be in it? If so? Who? there is a major possibility she could be showing upas Lady Deadpool. Good move? bad move? Box Office results, the SAG strike coming to an end? Gareth Edwards talks Rogue One internet rumors and will Heels find a new home? Kris Carr returns to join. Kristian and Brett to discuss these topics and more on Big Thing! #marvel #deadpool3 #taylorswift #mcu #rumors #boxoffice

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Happy celebrating. What's going on? Everybody, welcome back. It's the big thing. It's Monday. I hope you had a wonderful weekend. I really do. I hope it was wonderful. It was nice. It was peaceful. And we are getting into hopefully peaceful negotiations. The Sag After and the AMPM, QMRS, WXYZ, whatever the studios call themselves today. We're going to cross our fingers and hope. And I got a great panel today to talk about that. Gareth Edwards had the movie called The Creator, came out. I think it did pretty good. We'll talk about the box office. It didn't beat Paul Patrol, of course. There were some other movies that I thought were going to do well. It didn't. We'll discuss it.

But speaking to Gareth Edwards, he was talking about whether it was going to be a sequel to the creator and also some of those rumors about Rogue One. What did he say? Well, it's tuned into the show. You'll find out. And then we'll also talk about a little bit more diving deep into that box office. But as you saw on the title, in the thumbnail, everyone loves Taylor Swift.

And now Deadpool might love Taylor Swift. Now there's been rumors that she's been in it for a while. They're buddies. But it's starting to heat up. Is it true? Does it make sense? Is it one of these things like, hey, she's the biggest star in the world? We should put her in the movie or is there actually a place for her in this film?

We'll discuss that and more on today's episode of The Big Thing with What a Crew I have today. Brett Sheridan and the returning, Chris Carr. Excited to discuss all of these things and more. And for you guys, if you haven't done it already, come on, you got to show a little. bit of class. We're almost at 100,000. We just hit 95 kids. The goal is, within my birthday month, which is October, we want

to get to 100. If we don't, it means you hate me, and that's fine. And I'll just have to pick it up in November. But if you're able to do it, please do it. Spotify, podcasts, Apple Podcasts, all those things. Google. Do it. And let the English see you do it.

All right. Brett Sheridan, Chris Carr, let's joke. Welcome back. One and all. Big thing with me, Christian Harlow. But I thought I was cool. My name of the K. It was a better Chris in town. What?

And she's right here. Oh, it's in the better Chris. Right here. Nice. Stupid stream deck. I hate you stream deck. Welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me back.

It's nice to have you on the show. I love being here. Yeah, it's really good. People like the conversational back. and forth that we had last time, and I'm glad to do it again. Good. I'm glad that people don't don't. Well, I'm sure there's somebody out there does go. Oh, well, 10% of all people aren't going to be liked. It's true. And look who's back, ladies and gentlemen. Heavy metal. Someone gave us shit, Chris, on the, I was one of these comments last week about the theme song,

Why do you have a heavy metal intro? They were so mad. Just to make them mad. I know. That's exactly why. Now, while we, I'm going to see if I can do this on the fly here. I'm going to I'm going to get this stream deck going because this is going to drive me absolutely bonkers. So we got, let's see, that's that one, and I'm going to do this. Look at that. We're back. So, yeah, it's people complaining about the theme song, who cures? Because we've got a great crew.

And I'm excited because you don't know the magic that is Brett Sheridan. I don't. This is my first time meeting you're at. Oh, man, the lead up. That's too much. It's not too much. Because here's what you're going to learn throughout our conversation. we're going to be talking about things

like you and I will probably be really kind of diving deep into the Deadpool and Brett will not add a lot to that conversation but what Brett will do is he'll bring the laughs because that's what Brett does. Wonderful. But he knows it as well as I do. But Brett, what are you been watching lately?

Just TikTok and stuff like that. That makes sense. That's exactly the answer I was hoping for. We finished one piece and then just stop watching anything. Anything else? Yeah. I'm surprised. I got to tell you, I know you don't watch The Bachelor anymore

because you used to watch it. I think we have to. You're going to watch the thing, right? Yeah, the Golden Piece. What's it called? Golden, Golden Peace. The Golden Peace. Yeah, it looks interesting.

I think I might have to dive back in a little Bachelor. I'm not touching it. And I'll tell you why. My wife watches The Bachelor. She loves it. She's been watching it forever. I worked at The Bachelor as a producer for years. And it was, you know, it was what's funny is that my wife and we were dating, she was watching

as I think I'd seen an episode and then randomly I just started kind of working there while I was looking, as I was building schmose. But, you know, I worked there until like 2013. It was a good gig. And then I just, I'll tune in to like Bachelor in Paradise when she

watches it, but she's been watching it. It's like her show. It's like her comfort food that she just, she watches. So this thing comes on the other day. She's watching for a bachelor. She's watching, waiting for Bachelor in Paradise and the golden bachelor comes in and I'm watching, I go, this show is not going to do well. What is this?

What is the Golden Bachelor? The Golden Bachelor is, you know, the structure overall of Bachelor, right? Yes, yeah. This is, I think, like, 55, 60 and older? Yeah. I think he's 70. Is he? Yeah.

So maybe, maybe so. Maybe you're, I actually think, I actually think you're right. We're almost 50, dude. I think you're right. I think it's more so in like the 65s, because there was a woman that popped up and it was like 75. my wife goes, oh my God, she looks amazing for 75. And they show the Golden Batch are kissing one of these women,

and I felt like I was watching like my grandparents kiss. And I'm like this, and it has nothing to do. And I'm prefacing by saying this. I love the fact that they're giving these people the opportunity to find love. And I think it's a very sweet and very, like, it's a great premise and I get it. But we also got to remember that to me, like when this show, this show's built off like the sexiness at all. Yeah, the hot tub seems. 100% and when the I was going oh I'm like who's gonna who's gonna watch this well I was wrong because

oh no no is crushing it really crushing it I can't but so Brett you gotta watch you gotta fill a oh yeah I have to I I just like yeah like you said it's just one of these things but I I was listening to Stern and Stern said that he goes listen I don't watch porno to see me have sense right I know he's like I'm the same age as these people so it's like but that then so this is why again that I am so glad that you're on the show because this is, this is, as I set up this dynamic initially,

I was going to ask you, so what do you think? She didn't even know what was going on. No. But I love old people. Yeah. I want to see geriatrics fall in love. I'm telling you.

I want to see, I can't believe how well the show is doing. I mean, it's doing really, really well. So there you go. So, Brett,

that's what you're going to be tuned in. I think it's the audience. I mean, the audience is older, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

I'm glad they did something different because it fell, off for me when I realized that the women and men that are watching it, you know, or that had watched it for years, are on it and saw it as kids and are, know that the game part of it. So the game part of it became more than the actually, you know, I think in the beginning, there was some actual people that wanted to find love and were in it for the right reason. It's social media stuff. Yeah, they just want to be, yeah, social media stars.

The original season of love is blind versus what they've currently. Yes, exactly. See, I don't know any of that stuff. I love that one. Yeah, is that good? Oh my gosh, it's such trash. I love it. But that's the thing, right?

You do need certain shows like that, and because it is, it really is junk food. Exactly. It's really junk food. And I think that, and I guess it's a good transition into this, is that these shows probably had their spike and everything, too, because of the strike and stuff too right now, right? Oh, absolutely. Well, I mean, back in the 2007 writer's strike is when we saw the big boon of reality television. That's when we started keeping up with the Kardashians.

and we've seen that with the lack of content for the past few months, and we're going to keep seeing it. All these game shows are coming out now, too. Right. And the talk shows are coming back up too, right, right. So it's going to be all that for a while. All right, well, let's get into the strike itself, though, because it's been going, like, the writer strike is finally over,

and that one went on for a while, and Sags been going on since, what, August, like late July? We're in day 70-something. Day 70-something, right. So they're getting back to the table today, my prediction last week was, and I'm curious to hear what you think, Chris, is that I think that they're going to get back to the table,

it's the same thing that the AM, PM, WX, Y, Z is going to do. They're going to say, all right, whatever it takes, get to the table, let's make it happen. What I hope doesn't happen is, SAG and because they know what the writer's got, and they ask for a little bit more, and, you know, they know what they can get, and then, hey, don't push your buttons,

and don't, you know. And I think, I think that, It won't happen. I think that they're going to sit down Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. They'll have a deal by Friday, Thursday, Friday. And I think people will get back to work the second of last week in October. Yeah, I'm with you on that. I think they're going to mirror basically the same kind of options because AI has been the biggest issue. And hopefully these are things that are going to be dealt with to before we go into that video game negotiation, because that's right around the corner. That authorization's been finalized too. But I think they'll come to terms on AI with the same kind of situation. They give. the writers of we can't have AI use your movements and learn from you and manipulate you without your consent. I think we'll still probably get that kind of, it's a residual, it's a success-based

residual, right? It's a bonus. It's a performance bonus. And I think that's probably what's going to move forward. We're streaming for us too. And then a few of the other things on there, I'm not sure we're going to get great things with, you know, but I think those are the two big table issues that we should come to terms with fairly quickly. And because they finally, and he sat down and went through all of that with the WGA and they paved the way for these negotiations. We'll just follow that. Brett? Yep.

Perfect. We did it. Sags strong, yo. It's the truth. It's going to be, I do think it's going to be over and I think we're going to, and the boom I think that's going to come to our industry here is going to be significant because there's so much information going to be coming out. I was really curious for you guys too.

Like usually the industry kind of shuts down right before Thanksgiving, right? And if you stay here, it's, oh my gosh, it's like the apocalypse. I can go anywhere. It's that Pat and Oswald joke. It's incredible. You can get a sandwich whenever you want. No one's here. But usually it shuts down like that.

Do you think we're going to have like this kind of rush order before the holidays of everyone just trying to get their shit done? Yes, I do. I think there's going to be a ton of information. I think there's going to be a ton of interviews people want to get out there. I think there's all the projects that are coming out because the movies that are going out around holiday too. That's true.

They're going to want to push it. And I think when is Marvel's comes out around that time too, right? Yeah, November. First week of November. First week of November, okay. So, like, that's going to be one of the first big movies that you're going to have, like, such a press push on that one if, you know, the strike winds up coming to the end. But, yeah, I think because of everything leading up and then it leads into,

because the holiday, the Christmas holiday is right around the corner, then so they have to, like, stack everything up and all these potential, like, casting announcements that were already out there that they were working on. People don't realize that, though, too. Like, well, there's no casting happening during the strike. It's not necessarily true. Like there were things that were happening, auditions that were going on

that were still being discussed and saying, all right, once this thing is over, let's start to make a push towards this person and they're analyzing tapes. And they didn't shut down. Agencies didn't shut down, you know? So that's going to start.

You're going to see a ton of casting news because, and then more of announcements of when filming's going to be getting in. Like, look something like Deadpool, three, which we can, I guess, transition into next ever this. But Deadpool was already,

Once the writer's strike happened, they were still shooting. They just weren't shooting with, they were shooting with the script that they already had. And then they had to shut down once the sack strike. That's going to pick up because I don't think they're going to hit there. It's supposed to be May, I think it was when the movie was supposed to come out. Either way, it's going to be pushed back into like June or July now, which is not that bad. But that's going to be like an announcement that we hear. So yeah, I think that to answer your question, I think that we're definitely going to get a ton of stuff right around the holiday.

as well too. Brett? I agree. I think everybody else at home is wondering what that red thing is in front of you is. What red thing? It does kind of look like there's a dildo on your desk. You can't see it though, but you can't see it in the wide shot. Oh, in the wide shot? Is it a sponsor? Oh, yeah, it is.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, get a flashlight. If you've never had a flashlight, get yourself a flashlight. It's good for stuff that you, if you need to find this for Brett, because you can't fix something yourself, Brett will use this flashlight left and right. I don't know what I do. I don't know why that's there. I have no idea, but thanks for pointing it.

I think everybody at home was wondering that, and it was very crucial. Now, before we do move on to Deadpool, Brad, I know that you watched on Netflix. It was, what was it? A white owls? Can you tell us about white owls? White owls?

Well, it's, well, you know the one with the Guardians, but it's nothing to do with that. Guardian is like a who? Yeah, yeah. It has nothing to do with that one. Is it Hugh Grant? Hugh Grant, it's, well, you know, like, there's silver foxes. It's kind of a different term of like a silver fox.

It's a white owl. Right. You know, and Hugh Grant, you know, gentlemen of that age. Moose hunter, right? Moose hunter. Yeah, he's a moose hunter who, you know, he's all alone out in there. And he decides he needs to go back to society because it's like he thought being alone would be best, but he wants to find someone. And, yeah, it's just he runs into a group of other white owls. there's Kevin Spacey.

Kevin Spacey's in this one. Who's the softball player? Gary Oldman. Gary Oldman is a softball player. I can never, I can never, I don't know why. You bail on the softball player. None of this is true. It's like, what is happening?

This has been going on for at least two years. No matter who's on, we'll throw on some rain. Why can I only think of like canceled actors when it comes to doing fake. So it's like, why is he in this? That's not okay. Kevin Sorbo in White Ows 3. White House 3.

The reckoning. Anyway, all right, well, good. I got genuine and excited that was going to be like a Guardians of Gohull thing. I love Guardians of Gohull. It's so fun. Underrated. Oh my gosh. Underrated movie.

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All right, Taylor Swift, anyone never heard of her? Well, there's speculation about a Taylor Swift cameo, and it mounts even more if she's spotted with the movie's cast and stars. This is from comic bookmovie.com, Josh Wilding. Rumors have swirled for months that Taylor Swift will make an appearance

in Deadpool 3, and many fans are now convinced it's happening after she was spotted alongside the movie's director and cast. For months, we've seen rumors about her making the scamio, and some believe she's going to play Dazzler, while others are convinced the Grammy-winning icon could portray Lady Deadpool. Either way,

it's an exciting prospect. You probably don't need us to catch up, you probably don't need us to catch you up on the chatter surrounding Swift's recent attendance at NFL games, but comic book fans have been taking note of the fact that she was at MetLife Stadium to see the Kansas City Chiefs face in New York Jets. Why is that significant?

Well, she was there with Sean Levy and Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman. They're currently on break from shooting Deadpool 3 due to the strike, and while we're sure this was just a case of friends hanging out, Blake lively was also there. It feels like there might be something to this. Swift has acting experience. She's been in Amsterdam and cats, and this is just a sword.

Why do you put that in there? Let me tell you that Taylor Swift is an accomplished actress. She's been in cats. She's been in cats. It's like, you know, put anything else in there. Like, literally, put her home movies in there over than that. What are you doing? So the buzz surrounding would no doubt give Deadpool 3, boost to the box office,

and that it really needs it. But Dazzler feels too predictable of a role, so we'll go back to the Merck with the Mouth's female counterpart, Wanda Wilson. Okay. That's all we really need for that. I think this is a 100% take it to the bank, go to Vegas, and everything that you have that this is going to happen. Oh, yeah. 100%.

Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, this mostly is filled with a cast now that's Ryan Reynolds's buddies. Right. Because that's all people want to do at the end of the day when you hit that echelon is, I just want to work with my friends who are cool and fun and not deal with assholes. And know that it be, but the question also is, Sometimes that happens and it's like, like Oceans 13 or 12, whatever it was,

when it was just a bunch of buddies in there and it just felt like we were watching them on vacation. There was no plot. Yeah, that's true. And then there's, okay, well, yeah, we're going to use people that we know to play these certain roles that can make it pop and we have a story to tell. And I think that's the case here for sure. I think it is, you look at, why wouldn't you, if you're friends with Taylor Swift and you look at what she just did with this concert film, This concert film, what did it, outsell Endgame or something? Or whatever, whatever was.

And you've already been talking to her. You're like, please sign this deal. Even if it's five minutes and it's a gag about, you know, she's Lady Deadpool and whatever. And to hear her cursing and whatever it might be hilarious, right? And I actually think she was, there's some movies where she hasn't been great. I thought she was pretty good in Amsterdam, although the movie stinks. Yeah, the movie's not very good.

It stinks. But yeah, I think this is a no-brainer. Yeah. Do you think it's more Wanda, though, than Dazler? Because the whole, like, it's too obvious that she'd be Dazler. I think that's exactly why. Put her in there. Do you know, Dazler?

Do you know? Yeah. So, I don't know enough about it. So Dazler, often in, like, the 1980s and 90s, was, like, a pop star kind of X-Men who also had, like, light powers, if I'm not mistaken. Okay. I think that was her deal. Kind of, like, firewicky things. Not quite that you believe that.

for that. I was like, maybe you know. Yeah. No, it sounds like star. What's, what's from? Oh, from the boys. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I believe that's her whole thing. But she's just like, she basically is just like a 80s, 90s pop star kind of. I would think I'd prefer her to do that, right? I think so. I mean, if she could pull off the Lady Deadpool, whatever. But it'd be hilarious to hear her like saying filthy, nasty shit like Ryan does. I feel like that's something, though, where you put Blake Lively and

there so then he gets to have more meta jokes about how much he wants to have sex with himself that's that's hilarious um maybe yeah but i mean who who cares as long she's going to be in it and it's going to get people in their seat now the question though is that because this is the right first rated art disney movie like there's so many taylor's popularity goes way beyond just 12 to 17 year olds but they're significant so they're not going to necessarily be able to see this um in the theater they'll find a way. I mean, if you have a cool parent. I know.

They'll find a way. Like, my, I wouldn't, I wouldn't take, my, my 12-year-old, she's almost 12, is a major Taylor-Swift, like, loves her. Like, they went to the concert, everything. She's not ready for deadpool yet. Now, I'm not saying that there are some 12 or 13-year-olds that could handle the parents. I was, I saw, I was seeing, like, Robocop when I was that age. Very different time when I was growing up.

But my daughter's is, my, I'll tell you, though, my, my, my, my, I'll tell you, though, my, My six-year-old could probably watch it tomorrow. 100%. She's, I mean, she's already a soprano. She's going to be taking people's kneecaps out. But the other one's more sensitive, so I don't think so. But I'm just curious if that's going to be an issue at all. But it doesn't matter.

Listen, she put Travis Kelsey on the map. She's going to put Marvel on the map. Boom. You heard it here first. Have you seen people, like, it's women like telling their boyfriends or husbands. Like, isn't it great that, you know, Taylor Swift put Travis Kelsey on the map? And they're like, it's been on the map. He's been on the map.

Yeah. Well, it's just, it's amazing what she, she is an absolute phenomenon. I mean, she could be president. You joke. No joke. No joke. No joke. Eventually, if she holds this kind of weight, she could run.

Yeah. Whether she could win. And because of, and people go, oh, you're crazy. You're crazy. A reality star with a golden toilet one. Like, she could do it. Many people have Arnold Schwarzenegger, was the governor.

Yeah. Jesse Ventura was the, it's, and it's one of these, it's like, this type of stuff does carry weight now. Now she's only like 33 years old. But in general,

the kind of, what she has been a major thing, 33, 35. She's not going to do it anytime soon. She's got to. Well, she's lazy then. She's lazy. Why would she want to step down in her power?

Yeah, no, exactly. Right, take a major hit. Do you know, like, first of all, I saw Ed Shearing at SoFi with my daughter, like two weeks, go and he set the single day record for 81,000 people right that city. It was insane, 81,000. But, I mean, Taylor Swift was, like, going, like, three or four days or whatever it was.

She played, she plays for four hours. Yeah. For four hours. And, like, and, but, and everybody's losing to, like, one of the, it was Seattle. She had a concert in Seattle where they, the energy in the stadium was, was comparable to an earthquake. The energy of, it was nuts. she boosts the economy of every city she goes to. So if you are Marvel and Ryan Reynolds goes,

hey, I think I can get Taylor Swift, do it. Yeah, she's a Comic-Con. 100%. That is the most accurate state when anyone's ever said. Yeah. She boosts everything. It's wild. That's hilarious.

She absolutely, she could have a SwiftCon easily. Easily. And I would be there. Right. Right. Are you a big fan as well? I love her so much, but I'm poor, so I'm very jealous that you guys went to the concert. I have my tickets for that movie. Like, I'm hyped.

I'm going to be flinging friendship bracelets. It's going to be magical. It's, I mean, look, the seats that I was, I got them in December for my daughter and my wife for Christmas. And it was not cheap. And the seats that they had, they might as well been sitting on top of the stadium. My wife was like, my dad got me the tickets for Ed Shearron for Christmas. We had really good seats for Ed Shearer.

We could see them and everything too. It was great. My wife was like so mad at me when I sent pictures to her because she's like, Taylor Swift was like that size. It was like, A man. It was like A man. And I was like, I didn't spend like 20 bucks. No.

I mean, she's, they were pricey. My point is that, yeah, you put her in this movie. And I think that for people who are going, Oh, what are doing? Toole Swift in it, you don't understand business. And this isn't going to have a major role in it. No. Yeah.

So this is a no-brainer. And you, I don't care. Anybody who, too, Swift, you've hummed at least one of her songs. Exactly. I mean, the catchiest tunes. I don't, yeah. They are. Taylor Swift for president.

If you don't like her music, you can at least appreciate her artist or her business acumen. The only thing that I remember Josh McCooker was on Clyde-Live and he had said, and I didn't have the same type of respect for Taylor Swift that I did now. I had more in that idea of that she was just kind of like, you know, one of these pop stars that come and go back. That was completely wrong. But she's extremely talented. And at the time, he was like,

she's better than Prince. I still don't think that's the case. But it's also now, now I won't tell you that, you know, someone of a different generation won't agree with him. Right?

Like where it was like this was actually really funny. We were, my six-year-old, who again is about as big of a character as you're going to find, loves, loves, loves 80s music. Like, loves 80s music.

I can tell you, like, when jump comes on or Bon Jovi, or whatever, she jumps on the couch, she's losing her mind, and Madonna came on, so Material Girl came on. So I was like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to show her the video. So I've turned on the Material Girl video. And my wife comes in, and she's like,

oh, this is, she's like, this, this, and my oldest wasn't there. My wife goes, she's so much better than Taylor Swift. And she walks away and my six-year-licks and he goes, well, I guess mom's not a Swifty anymore. It's hilarious. Really funny. Anyway, so yeah, let me know, guys. What do you think?

Do you think this is a good move? If you were a studio executive, if you were Ryan Reynolds, would you put Taylor Swift in your movie? Do you think that it hurts it? Do you think that it helps it? What say you? Leave your comments. Tell me what you think. Speaking of money.

Think of box office. What can it do? Let's talk about box office for this weekend. Yeah, man. All right. Speaking of my six-year-old, this movie, Paw Patrol. Ah, man, was she, this was her Taylor Swift. She wanted to go, I've taken her to like four movies.

She's her fourth movie she's seen in the theater. And this was her most excited she's ever been for the movies. Paw Patrol is also a phenomenon. And Paw Patrol, the animated sequel, the Mighty Movie, top the box office this week, 23 million domestically, and double that worldwide. On a like-for-like basis, the film is 70% ahead of the first movie.

Added to that, the film is only halfway through its international rollout, so there'll be plenty more to add to this total. Budget of only 30 million, and with a robust merchandise and consumer product sales, on top of that, expect a third film sooner rather than later. Saw X took second place, domestically, with an impressive 18 million. which more than doubled the opening of the prior installment spiral.

It pulled on a further 11.3 million from overseas with the worldwide debut of 29.3. Excellent work for a movie that cost just 13 million. This is going to get to a heavier point a little later on. Gareth Edwards, 80 million science fiction epic, the creator debuted in third place, 14 million below expectations, though it had a better start overseas with a further 18.2. Going wide this week was the GameStop short stock from dumb money,

which flopped, taking in 3.5 million in 7th place. after two weeks in limited release. The extreme weather in New York expected to have been the film's biggest market may have impacted it. As such, the 30 million budget feature made just 7.3. The nun, two, spooked its way into fourth

with 4.67 million, bringing its domestic total to 76.7 million after four weeks, 231 million worldwide. Solid performance for a 38 million budget film. Yep. Okay, I'm going to start with you. See that?

Spooked its way into fourth. Yeah, you like that? Because it was a saw, and it was scary. Did you like that? Spook. Did you like the way that work out? I think Paw Patrol pawed its way into first. I like what you're doing.

Well done. Well done. Nice job. What stands out to you? Those budgets. That's the big thing here. You can't make up your money if you have these huge budgets. And I loved the creator.

I loved that movie so much. It took so many of my sci-fi boxes. But 80-mill. I mean, it looks like it. It looks like 80-mill. But 80-mill, but they spent 80-mill. on that movie the right way. They did.

They really spent it. It's like, so I don't mind a risk like that for 80 mil because other movies take 150, 200, 250 million and don't look that good. The Flash. Fast X. Looked 250 million didn't look even remotely close to as good as a creator did. So I don't mind going for an 80 million if you can make it up. It just people just didn't show up for it all the way through.

I think it'll have a life on stream. I think it'll have in general. And I think that's a movie that can have legs. I don't mind. And you know me. I've been talking about I couldn't agree with you more on budgets. It drives me crazy. I give that one a pass on 80 because it looks so good.

It looks really beautiful and it's so well done. But for original IP, which I don't care what anyone says when everyone always does. They're like, no one makes new movies. People don't show up to them. And that's why, which is really frustrating. And they obviously, they have great actors in here, phenomenal actors, but not A-lister's who every household member knows.

Like, my mom still isn't sure who Gemma Chan is. Right. Where she's like, oh, she did a Marvel movie, right? Where she's blue. I'm like, well, one of them. One of them. And so it's not like a fast X or a flash where you're putting a bunch of money into the stars themselves.

You're putting into the actual film and how it looks. But it's so expensive. And just some of the other ones on here too. I mean, like the way that you can make horror on these shoestring budgets always floors me. Like 824 is capitalized on it so much the past year. I mean, them, Bloomhouse, like, Blumhouse. Yeah, it's, that's the thing that even it, because for me, it's like taking that risk. If you're going to take a risk, take a risk at like 50, 60 mil-take.

If you're going to take a risk at a big sci-fi movie and you're going to go 80, like I said, I'm okay with that risk. I'm not okay with a risk at one. If, like, if they would put 150 into that movie, I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah. What are you doing? And if like 200, 250 million, even for recognizable IP, unless you've really earned it like an end game or like something where it's like, okay, each movie, the people, this is a no-brainer.

Yeah. Then I get it. But like, I always bring it up. Indiana Jones. Insanity. Now, I was talking to Sam Levine last week and he brought up some good points to is that these budgets don't always start out. Like it could have been greenlit, Indiana Jones could have been greenlit for like 150.

but with reshoots and different things that kind of stack up, then you get to 300. But that's also just mistaken in audience anticipation and other things too. But yeah, I agree with you, Chris. I think that the thing that really stands out to me is that these budgets of look, if you're able to really hone in on something that's 15, 20 million and you can capitalize because then if it makes 100, you've made a profit. Now, dumb money is the one I said in the intro that I said some of these that didn't do well shocked me. That one shocks me yet doesn't at the same time.

It does shock me because I've heard nothing but amazing things about this movie. I've heard it was hilarious. I thought it was really good. I just heard it's a really solid movie. But it does seem to me now there are these categories of movies that start to, oh, this movie seems like it should have been on Apple. that's just where we are in the entertainment right now there are certain movies

that if you see it you're like that's not a movie that people go to the movie theaters for anymore it's just not Brett what's say you I totally agree and I think you nail it on the head there that there are films now

that people just want to see streaming and they're not bringing people into the it's hard to get people in the theater now and you can't bring them in with dumb money because you've seen it because you can see it because the other thing is

out of all of us, how much do you think you pay? Or how many, I shouldn't say that, how many subscriptions on streaming do you think you subscribe to? I think four. Okay, four. I'm way past that. I've got six or seven. Right.

Yeah. Okay. So I'm probably in the same range. Let's say, let's say averages four or five for most people. With the prices going up right now, that's like between $10 to $15 a month apiece. Right?

that's way past a movie ticket like way past a movie ticket and you're like so if you got all these movies that are coming out and it's like okay well dumb money's coming out there's so many movies on Apple right down these other things I haven't seen yet and I'm spending like 120 $130 a month I think I'm just going to stay

home we'll make some popcorn we'll do this and that's it now if there's certain huge events like big events and you're like oh that looks like that'd be cool to watch in the theater and I'm sure Dumb Money's awesome. I've heard nothing with good news, but it just hasn't seen like one of those movies like, I need to see that in the theater.

Dumb Money has that whole situation too of it's a stacked cast. Yeah. And while it's a really interesting story, mostly you're going though because this incredible cast is part of it. Right. And we saw with Dune was, well, we're going to push this because none of our actors can promote this movie right now. That's right. And I think a movie like this, that is more of a slice of life kind of storytelling, you want Pete Davidson on the late night circuit. You know, you want Paul Dano out there talking about stuff. Exactly. And when you don't have that,

then you lose interest in these kinds of movies. Yeah, and you don't, it's just not in the public. People aren't just aren't talking about it. Exactly. They're just not talking about it. Like, look at, this is the thing I brought up last week is that whether you agree or disagree with what Martin Scoress says he's been saying for the last five years

about comic movies. Movies are done. Right. Yeah. But he, he's no dummy. He knows, he's got a movie coming out. And he knows that everyone. is going to cover him talking shit about comic book movies.

Why is this guy talking shit? He's going to be coming out. Oh, yeah? What's a movie? Because it's still more in Scorsese. Because even, I would love to see the majority of people. Now, there's going to be people, you know, that just love these particular big budget comic book movies that put their dukes up to anybody who says shit about him.

And they would never want to see a Scorsese movie in general. But then there's other people who would be like, oh, that's Scorsese saying now, well, he's got a movie. Oh, yeah, what's his movie? Right? Because it's Scorsese. I don't care. He's like the grouchy old grandpa shaking his fist.

on the porch. I don't care. I want to see that movie. I really want to see that movie. I really want to see that one. Every time he talks shit about Marvel, though, I'm like, bro, you were in fish tail.

Sharksdale, right? Shark's tail, right? You need to calm down. He was. We all sometimes do things for money. I'm telling you, no. He's, but he's,

he is no dummy. He knows that if he goes after these things, he probably saw the last time that he took shots, even when he first, the first time he did it, the amount of, press he got was crazy. So he's like, I'm just going to do that again, as he should have,

as he should have. It's like, who cares? I mean, because no one's going to change your opinion. It's like my dad, our parents, they have their own points of view that you're not going to change them no matter what. They live in a very different time. And you can, they've lived enough life that they're not going to change certain opinions and the way that they approach things. And Scorsese is no different. And it's a safe thing to have an opinion on. It's not, it's not a, he's not an old man making racist comments. He's not. not saying, well, there shouldn't be less broads in film. You know, it's

something valid that an older gentleman would say. Like, these darn comic book movies, kids with their, you know. That's what people don't realize is that, that's a great point. Because if you went over, if all my grandparents have passed on, but if you would, but if my grandfather was still

around, in no world could I see my grandfather going, how about that last time man movie? Yeah, right. And he's going to be like, what the hell is the guy doing, shooting the things? And I don't know. what's going on. And that's what he is. He's a gradual man who makes amazing movies. And I can't wait to see it. Although my favorite quote from Leonardo DiCaprio ever about Martin Scrauss says he was after, how do you feel about Wolf of Wall Street? I think it's a good movie.

I love it. I just, I love it because I don't, I think that it is, I think people that think that, you know, Jordan Belfort was being kind of glorified missed the entire point of the Phil. It's a farthest thing from that. It's the Goodfellas of Wall Street. And DiCaprio's comment was so fantastic. He goes, I think at the time he was, what, 74,

73, whatever he was. Let's say 73. And he goes, at 73 years old, he's still making punk rock. Yeah. And I was like, I was like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you look at that, you look at Wolf of Wall Street. Whether you think it's fine, good, you can't look at that and think that, you know,

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It's linked in the description. First comment below. Okay. Moving on. All right. Speaking of Gareth Edwards, he was recently, in his interview as he was building up the creator, some dark horizons.

He said, though most of the complaints about it is that it deals with tired and familiar tropes for the genre, the creator is still something you don't see often. It was a standalone, big budget, science fiction, original feature. Chris was talking about before. The film doesn't require any previous viewings. It's not tied to an existing franchise, and it isn't even an adaptation of a famous property like a book or a game.

The result is a film exploring the idea of AI and how the world would look if it became divided on the use of that technology, resulting in a fully fleshed out world that seems ripe to explore. In an interview with the direct, Edward was asked about the possibility of his new movie getting a sequel or a spin-off to which he says there are no plans, and this is very much a completely self-contained story. The main reason, he's a big fan of endings. He says, my favorite thing about cinema versus television is that cinema ends.

My favorite part of that storyline is the ending. And I really like it when you sort of work backward from the end and everything set up to this climax where there's a kind of mic drop moment and in the credits roll they're my favorite kind of films there's no intention to do part two or anything like that i'm happy to see this being a standalone one-off self-contained story those are my favorite types of films for the full quote head on over to the to the direct and the thing i think another reason why i mean this is it's not this is not a shot it's just the harsh reality of it another reason you're not getting the sequel is it just didn't do well enough to warrant a sequel um i really enjoyed the movie

like you. I think that what the movie did, it starts a really, really strong. It's gorgeous. The Hans Zimmer score, which I didn't expect Hans Zimmer, first of all. The middle kind of falls a little towards the dull side. Yeah. And then it just ends so well that you're like, okay, forgive you. It's a breakneck pace once you get to that point. Yeah, I loved it. I thought it was I really enjoyed watching it because of everything you said before. It was original sci-fi. it just, it kind of, I thought it actually spun a couple things on its head to where you thought you were going to go. I don't really agree with all these familiar tropes. I saw other people saying that. No, I feel like it deals with a lot of like typical sci-fi tropes in unique ways.

Like the prime directive is one of my favorite things to think about in sci-fi. And one of my favorite things to talk about people voicing robots and AI in video games of, you're not, you're not just a robot, you're programmed to do something. So what you still have motivation to do this? things and I love that exploration in sci-fi of okay well what did we build to do stuff or what did we do and how does that change and grow and evolve yeah and I think they do such a cool job with that i really did and i was glad to see because here my i think garr that was when he did um he's i didn't love the godzilla one that he did though it was funny it looked cool at the end of the godzilla himself the story itself um the first one he did was the first one that was uh shoot it was it was an alien

it was another alien movie wasn't it what's that independent one that he did the small one where they really kind of came on the scene of monsters is that what it was called monster i don't know anyway um so rogue one i and we'll talk about it in a second i just don't know how much of rogue one is really his oh because here think about it in in in logic terms you do a billion dollar movie in 2016 and your next real movie is in until 2003. In what world

does an agent not be able to just easily say you just did a billion dollar movie? How easy is it for me to say

she just directed a billion dollar movie what he got for her? Guy's been nowhere to be found for seven years or whatever

he's maybe done smaller I don't know but something like this is the first time you really seen him to impress

like a big movie and this to me I believe this is his movie through and through this creator Tony Gilroy got

and or not him and he and everyone talked about how it was Gilroy's movie, Gilroy's movie, Gilroy's movie. Diego Luna sat where you are sitting right now, and I was having that conversation, and he was talking about,

not whether he directed, but just about Rogue One. He referred to Gareth Edwards when he met him as the director. He called Tony Gilroy. Tony Gilroy every time he spoke about him, and he only called Garrett Edwards the director. When I met the director the first time,

me this is that to me he didn't he talked about Gilroy on rogue one he talked about it's like so i think what gareth edwards did and we're going to get into the story in a second because he addresses some of this stuff but gareth edwards to me it was look look they didn't like what he was doing they told him to kind of take a back seat and he would be played ball and he just kind of all right look i'll take ball take the credit i'll do what i have to do and tip but that's that's kind of my my the way that i look at it what do you think i i I wasn't aware of any of that. So now I'm like, oh, because yeah, usually your director is your key person,

your leader on everything. And they're setting the tone for everything. But that's very odd to use that kind of language. But think about it. And that gap in time. Right? I mean, maybe he was really ruminating on the creator. Come on.

Colin Travaro. Colin Travaro after Jurassic World got the next Star Wars. He didn't finish the Star Wars movie, but he got it right away. Oh, you did a billion-dollar movie here, Star Wars. You know what I mean? And then he got, then he did that other movie. They got taken away from him. But now, and then he did,

and then he went up doing the other Jurassic World. The third one, whatever, and that did a billion dollars also. So, yeah, it just, it just doesn't make sense. But let's get into the actual, I think that he talks about this and addresses some of it. Some of it. I haven't read the full thing, but here we go. Okay. Again, Dark Horizons, Gareth Edwards has creator in Cinemas,

his first feature since Rogue One, which has become infamous for us behind the scene story. A big part of the infamy is that no one is quite sure what happened is stories of reshoots, creative overhauls, and confusion over who was responsible for what in that film. What is known is that Edwards directed a movie and delivered his director's cut. Then Tony Gilroy was hired for rewrites

and helped out in the reshoots of the film which are said to have gone up for five weeks. That's almost like a full movie. Beyond that is where the conjecture starts with some saying that Gilroy took over the film and redid it as much as 40%. Others suggest his

role has been overplayed and Edwards' contributions have been minimized. Not helping is the key players have kept quiet about it beyond comments from Gilroy back in 2018 on the Moment podcast where he says the film was in terrible, terrible trouble and spoke about his rewrites effectively solved the issues. Meanwhile, Edwards has avoided discussing the topic much while out-promoting the creator. A few bits confirmed some elements fans thought were part of the reshoots were in fact right there from the start. In an interview with KCRW's The Business, via THR, Edwards, has finally opened up about Rogue One by pushing back against the narratives surrounding the project was in trouble. He says, the stuff that is out there on the internet about what happened on the film,

there's a lot of inaccuracy about the whole thing. Tony came in and he did a lot of great work for sure. There's no doubt about it, but we all worked together into the last minute of that movie. It's always a team effort making a movie, especially a big, giant movie like that. Edwards also explains why he will not speak ill of the experience. someone who gets that opportunity to make a Star Wars film and then starts complaining about it, I don't think many people have much empathy

for that kind of person, so I don't want to be them. It was a dream come true. I'm proud of the movie we all made. What goes into Fight Club, stays into Fight Club kind of thing. It's like that. I just want to sound grateful for what happened and not talk negatively about everything. I think he proves my point.

I think he proves my point. I think he doesn't really necessarily says, I was around for the reshues. I believe that. I believe that he was there. I don't think he was ousted from that process. But I think he sat back. and said, okay, Gilbert was coming in, whatever.

And then the last comment, he played ball. Yeah, that was a real diplomatic response. He played ball. Yeah. He played ball, and he doesn't want to step on those toes because who knows, and he's a big Star Wars guy. He loves Star Wars. So, I mean, I don't know if he is anymore. I think he probably, I think he's very, very smart.

And I think the way, and I actually had the opportunity to meet him at Star Wars Celebration. He's a sweetheart of an individual. It's a really, really nice guy. And he is just one of those guys that he's just going to go, yeah, right, whatever. I took the gig. They brought this guy in, and now I'm doing my own thing. It's the thing that I wonder is that if because this thing got so big,

and because so many people found out about it, if that put him in this kind of director jail for seven years or whatever it was. Oh, that's a big possibility. Seven years. Seven years is a long time. Yeah, that's rough. That's, this is also, this is one of my most unpopular opinions on the internet. I've got two.

I've never seen Gladiator and everyone gets mad at me. about it. It came out when I was a child and my parents didn't take me to see it. I'm so sorry I never got to it. Which gladiated? Russell Crow or the one? Not the one with Cuba Gooding Jr. I love that one. The Russell Crow one. And then my other one is, I don't really like Rogue One that much.

Oh my God. And everyone's always really bad about it. And I'm going to rewatch it again because I enjoyed Andor and it made me appreciate the movie more. But I did not look into any of the backstory on this. So this is very wild to me. I think you know when you should watch Rogue One though when Andor season two is over. That's what my plan is.

Yeah, I want to see all of this and then go into that. So I have the whole experience because that's one of the things I just liked was, well, I barely got to know these people. Right. So I don't care that much. Fair. I actually do think it is the best. When I saw it originally, it wasn't in the camp,

but after watching it, I think it's the best of the Disney era. Because of someone to the opposite, when I saw Force Awakens, I said, okay, we're getting back into it. now. And then when I watch Force Awakens now, I still think it's fine. I think this is good, but it's like, I just know it leads to nothing. It just leads to nothing. That's fair. Yeah. And so it's more disappointing as Rogue One leads to the original trilogy. Sure. And it also now will now connect to this show in Andor, because Andor, Rogue One is the series finale, which I think is very creative. Have you watched Andor yet? No. Still I haven't

watched it. Dude, that one you should, I mean, but Golden Bachelor, that's the one you should. No, that's first on the list. That's first on the list. You got it. The only thing that really stuck out in this article for me was that he misquoted a fight club.

Oh, that pissed you off. Yeah, he was like, you know the old saying, fool me fight club once, you know, what? No, he said what goes into fight club, stays into fight club? That's not the same. It's kind of mixed Vegas with fight club. Whatever. That's why I had recesses.

What goes in the sausage, stays in the sausage when you make it, and you don't want to see them making it, though. You don't want to know about it. Yeah. What was that movie on Apple, the sausage movie? Yeah.

The sausage kingdom. All right. Let's get to our last story today. This is something that I'm very interested about when it comes to this heel show. Heels. The wrestling show got canceled. It's now being shopped around.

So in Dark Horizons, a few days ago, came word that stars had canceled several series, most notably, it's period wrestling drama Heels starring Stephen Amel and Alexander Ludwig. It was one of a number of notable cancellations of late, including to HBO's Winning Time, Hulu's How I Met Your Father, and ABC's Home Economics, all abruptly ending up getting the axe. In wake of that cancellation, show owner Mike O'Malley has confirmed

he is actively searching for a new network, and is happily sharing his plans for third season. Speaking with EW, O'Malley confirmed his desire to shop the show around. Yeah, we are actively doing it, and some of the actors are still under contract, Obviously, the writer strike just ended. I couldn't have any conversations about this until now,

and granted, they just told me on Friday. But not only are we trying to find a new network, I believe that stars executives, when they say they want to see a future for the show, because they did invest a lot in the show, I really do think it's going to have a life somewhere else. Now, right now there is a chance there is no network choosing to pick it up. Not helping, is that ML was on the receiving end of a bad press following his remarks about the WGA and the strikes in July.

Now, I definitely think that had something to do with them going, All right, you know what, people are probably kind of bailed on this show a little bit too. It wasn't really doing a lot. I think that if you're Michael Malley, you do everything that you can and knock down the door at Peacock. And you knock down that door and you say, let's figure something out. Because if they can get that to happen, they can figure out a deal with WWE. And they can make the next step to crossover stars with the WWE and crossover stars into how eventually they get to the WWE and make the WWE something.

That's part one. AEDAW just isn't holding the kind of weight it was a little while ago. It was so you could try to do that and maybe crossing people over. But probably not now because S&Punk is part of heels, and that didn't go very well with A.E.W. But if you can get Peacock on board, that's the way you could save this show by crossing over. Exactly.

You got it. Of the seven streamers I have, Stars is not one of the subscriptions I have to, so I don't watch any heels. I fucking love wrestling. Oh, you would love it. The first season was pretty good. I really want to check it out. And, you know, Stephen said what he said, and then he retracted it on the lines.

We talked about it. And if that's what turned people off to the show, that is a shame. But I think if you do that kind of cross-promotion where during wrestling matches, you have the stars come out and you have them talk. And they don't even have to wrestle. They just have to talk shit to each other and, like, interact with everyone who's on there there. Have the Miz come out and fucking hype up. Or be like a character, whatever. Because the thing is, if you have, so it's essentially

they're trying to get to the big dance, right? And it's like if they, if the big dance is the WWE and you can do all these things, you can actually start having them cross over and promoting it on Raw and promoting it on Smackdown and promoting it the pay-per-views and having Stephen Amel has done stuff with the WWE, you know, like that is how you do it. I'm sure where this isn't like, oh yeah, good idea. And think about that. It's probably the first phone They're so lucky that they listen today. Yeah, I'm so glad. Who knows?

They wouldn't have thought about it. And now they know about the show with Kevin Space. Yeah, exactly. They're all gonna be into white owls. White owls. That's freaking mosquitoes. I don't know what to do with them. They're horrible.

I left Texas for a multitude of reasons, but these little shits. The bastards. I hate them so much. I hate them. Like I was, like, and they've really only been invading like the last like two weeks. I wish I could have left it in because it was so funny.

The other, I was, I was doing capes and Calton. I was doing like a read for an ad. And as I was editing it, I didn't see it when I was doing it. Winston was sitting there and Winston's like, it's going after it. These little bastards, I don't know what they're coming after, but they chewed me up the other day. It's not as bad today. I don't get eaten up. I used to back in the day. Yeah. Oh, my wife. Blood tastes like shits. Yeah. No, it must be all just disgusting food. They don't want to get hammered. They don't want to get hammered. There's just so much bourbon in my body. That's why I feel like they go for me. So much lard. So many Oreo cookies. They don't want Oreos. It's true. All right. We did it. We did the show today.

And I'm so glad that we did. We did it. We figured it out. We made it work. Thank you guys for joining us here today. I'm so glad that you were able to join us. And every time you put the show on, it really, really is a very humbling, nice thing. Thank you so much. Leave your comments. If you want to support the show and you're able to, you have the means to please consider one of our wonderful sponsors. As I said, it's linked in the description, and also the first comment pinned. I'd like to thank our guests today, starting with the wonderful

Chris Carr. Chris, where can I find you? You can find me on Instagram. It's Chris Carr, or if you're interested in voiceover or head over to speakfriendstudio.com, and we'll chat about it. Brett, what about you? What are you? I'm interested in voiceover. Go to my website, Brett. Yeah, I'll go there.

Yeah, yeah. K95 FM. Is that what we're talking about? So good. The future rock and roll. So good. So you can see Brett hounding and harassing Chris Carr. Yes, how else can I find? How about your channel?

YouTube, aboveboard TV, YouTube. Check it out. I just had one drop that was a spoof on the game Clue. I was being interrogated. Yeah, it was a fun one. I think some good responses on that one. And then I'm always here with Christian, just yucking it up. Yuck, doing the yucks.

So thanks again to everybody. here today and if you haven't already done it, show a little. We're at 95, hoping to get to a thousand. We got a lot of cool stuff coming up, man. Tomorrow, the director, you know that the encounters that's out on Netflix right now. It's that four-part series on UAP, Steven Spielberg produced, boardwalk produced, vice produced, and we got the director on tomorrow on the UAP Tuesday show. So please go ahead and check that out. Wednesday, we're going to have the Asoka finale. Thursday, we're going to be doing just a fun shoot-the-shit show. And then Friday, we're back with capes and cows, Koi and Winston. So we got a full stack show, got Exorcist reaction,

got Loki reactions coming out, that and more. So thanks for joining us on the show. We appreciate you, and we'll see you on the flip side. Bye.