The Kristian Harloff Show - Deadpool 3 not included on Disney releases for 2024. Is a delay imminent?

Episode Date: August 11, 2023

Leave a question here: http://www.streamlabs.com/theschmoedown Deadpool 3 could be delayed again due to the strikes. When will the strike end? Gal Gadot doubles down on Wonder Woman 3 happening. Why d...o people care so much about the Fantastic Four casting? Boom Studios is back on this episode of Capes and Cowls. Kristian Harloff is joined by DJ Wooldridge (http://www.twitter.com/djtalkstrash) from  @OnlyStupidAnswers  Enjoy! #DC DCU #Deadpool #marvel #MCU #fantastic four     

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How's it going, everybody? Happy Friday. Capes and Cows is back. It's myself. I don't have Winston and Coy this week, that week, that week, any week, well, at least right now. But I got a pretty great replacement today. I'll tell you that. I've been talking about him. He's the one and only from Only Stupid Answers.
Starting point is 00:00:17 DJ Wildress. He's a UAP. He's a fanatic. He believes all of it. This guy, I could talk to him about UAPs all day long. That is false. But we'll be talking about that. We're going to be talking about a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:30 inside of the world of comic book movies. Gal Gaddo, she says she had nothing to worry about. Wonder Woman 3, that's happening for sure. There are movies that are happening, like Deadpool 3 and Echo series, we think, but Deadpool 3 definitely getting pushed. Echo might be getting pushed indefinitely. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:00:47 Gwen Stacy, we love her. And we like Emma Stone, is Emma Stacy? Is she coming back? Emma Stacy? Yeah, sure. Gwen Stacy, she's coming back. We think, because she has a haircut, and that's what the Internet does.
Starting point is 00:00:59 But we've got a lot of talk about. We really do. And of course, Boom Studios back today. And before we get into any of it, show a little bit, just announce 100,000. We're almost there, guys. We need your help. I think we hit 90,000 by the end of the month, but we need you guys to help us do it. Yeah, and also, we've been doing this thing now. If you throw in a question to streamlabs.com slash the shmowdown, at the end of the show, we will take the ones that come in the day before or anything relevant to the show itself, and we will ask it. Nothing here today, but we just started it.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Anyway, that's it. Let's get into it. It's capes and cows. It's me and it's DJ. I'm ready. You're ready. Cool. Let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Capes and Cal's big thing. It's me and DJ. Hello, hello, hello. First off, great intro. Thank you. Great intro video. I love it. Second off, did Roxy out me on the UAP thing? I watched it. Oh, you watched it. So, you know, I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I'm not going to get into it. Yeah. I'm not going to, because I've talked about you quite a few, not about UAPs, but on this show, because, and I've told you this, too, we're screening buddies. Every time we do the same thing when it's a screening, we sit in the back. Same thing. I'm a big fan of yours. I think you're a great guy, and I feel that if,
Starting point is 00:02:21 If I wasn't married and had kids, I feel like we'd hang out even more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that you do, and please don't get offended by this. I think you follow the wave of, well, if it's not, if I can't see it, and I don't think it doesn't exist. Because some of the stuff you said on that show, and you even said, I watched one episode and I turned it off. How can you argue it?
Starting point is 00:02:42 I have to have a skeptic in front of me that's watched it all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then I'm not telling you going to believe it all. Yeah, yeah. But I got to have you counter the stuff that I believe, because you don't know about the O'Hare stuff. You don't know about the stuff in Hudson, New York and all those things. But you have a belief that you just, unless you can see it, it ain't real.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I don't know that I'd clarify it that way, but I do get your point. I do hear your point. I do hear your point. And listen, man, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. That is what it comes down to, though. It really is, Riley and I talk about this all the time. By the way, it is going to come down to that, even for us who are way more obviously believers in the fact that it's going to come down to the moment like,
Starting point is 00:03:20 oh, well, nobody can say that that's not. They have to land in the middle of the park. I think where it's like, I think the level is, could there be sentient life out in the universe? It's a big universe. That seems like a problem. Could they be advanced enough that they found a way to get here? I mean, maybe, who's, again, big humor.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I'm not in a position to say anything. Does the government have some? That requires me to believe our government is competent enough that thousands of people. are involved and no and it hasn't really gotten out and I just, I don't, based on my experience,
Starting point is 00:03:57 I don't think our clown car of a government will be able to pull that off. Let me ask you this though without us going too far away, tin foil hat stuff. Do you believe that Kennedy was taken out by Oswald?
Starting point is 00:04:09 I believe Oswald wasn't evolved, yeah. But do you think he took him out along? I think that's probable. Okay. Yeah. All right. So then, see, I don't.
Starting point is 00:04:17 So that's, and then it comes down to, and I think that they hid that very well for a long time. I think there's things that they can definitely hide for a long time. I'd actually would love to actually have you on the UAP show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I think that there's something where, because, like I said, rational conversation is healthy.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's one of the, I just, I would like you to watch those five things, because I want you to be able to say to me, look, I saw that and I understand where you're coming from and that particular thing, but this is how I see it. It's just because I always get that whole thing of, you know, well, how come the U.S. is the only one that sees it? And how come the U.S. only ones report it?
Starting point is 00:04:48 They're not. Russia, Brazil, Australia, China. There's tons of information. There's things about, did you watch the part of it with the Japanese pilot that had, they had the actual audio and the stuff that went to them? No, no, no. And the air base that, these were like, these were like 15 air base people who were in charge of the nukes. They weren't deemed crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:06 They said they saw this particular thing. The nuke shut down. And the point that I think that was brilliant was, okay, let's say that these guys are lying. Yeah. All these. Then who put them in charge of the nukes? You know what I mean? Well, and that's the other thing is I'm not necessarily saying anybody's lying per se.
Starting point is 00:05:21 You know what I mean? Because people see weird stuff. You know what I mean? People have had weird experiences. Like, you know, but I also like, I grew up in the church where like hundreds of people would be speaking in tongues and would they heard. They're hurt God. So it's like, you know, people have weird experiences. And I'm not here to tell you, you know, what experience is valid or whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:40 But I do think there's, there is stuff that we don't know. And there's probably going to be stuff that we never know. I couldn't agree with you more. I couldn't agree with you more. I just, there's just so much. And again, I'd love to have you on the actual UAP show because there's things that I have the questions about, like the pilots and why they would say certain things. So we'll have it. We'll have you back on. Yeah, we'll do another day. We'll do another time. That's not for that. That's not for this. Today, though, if you do want to watch the UAP show in general, you can go on Tuesdays. That's where we have this show. Tuesdays. Tuesdays. UAPD Tuesdays.
Starting point is 00:06:06 But let's get to some of these topics. And I want to get to the first one, which is this Deadpool thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, this comes from comicbook movie.com. Deadpool 3 absent from the Disney release schedule suggesting a delay is now imminent. Highlighting its upcoming slate of movies during a recent earnings call, Disney may have confirmed that Deadpool 3 will end up being delayed after failing to mention the highly anticipated R-rated 3-equal. The WGA Sags Strike is expected to last now into next year. They have been expecting a Deadpool 3 delay for some time. I think we all have.
Starting point is 00:06:39 While not confirmed, that's how it's looking increasingly following the call held by. Disney yesterday afternoon. The studios touted its upcoming theatrical releases from September 2023 through June 2024. Deadpool 3 was notable from its absence. The likes of Snow White, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, and Inside Out, too, were all present,
Starting point is 00:06:58 but why not Marvel Studios to the sequel? Well, those movies are thought to be quite further into production than the Deadpool Wolverine team up ever was. While by no means it confirmed delay, Deadpool 3's absence strongly suggests that Disney knows the movie meeting is currently May 3rd debut is
Starting point is 00:07:13 doubtful. It was scheduled for next November before being brought forward, so we imagine it'll probably move back to winter. Marvel is still stated for November 10th right now. We'll see what happens, yada, yada, yada. Okay, so DJ, we've got
Starting point is 00:07:29 a few reports that have come out with Deadpool 3 in general since the writer's strike. Yeah. They kept filming. You're not allowed to improvise on your Deadpool movie now that the writer's on strike. It's like, well, then maybe you're not doing the movie. Well, but the only thing with that, though, The reason why they did it was because he filmed a lot of it with the mask.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So you could, once you're allowed to, you could dub it over. And I'll bet you there's that, there's that Marvel's like, don't worry, we do 90% of movies in post now anyway. We re-edit it and reshoot it. Yeah. Yeah. But so when the writer strike, people were like, oh, they're still filming during a writer strike? How are they going to do that?
Starting point is 00:08:04 That to them probably easy was yes, yes, improv is a big thing for Ryan Reynolds. But once they get into post-production and once they're able to, and they'd probably, you know, crossing their fingers that once the writer strike was over, they could go in, dub over any lines that they had, make them do, and they could shoot a lot of action and things, too, that were just on the page. And they would have been fine with that. But once the sag strike hit, it was over. And then they said, okay, we've got to push.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I think this is inevitable. I think that there's no chance. I mean, this strike, when do you think the strike's going to be over? I hope not early next year, hopefully sooner than that. But also, but you got a, we were talking about this, little bit off air that the Marvel V of X team just decided to unionize with the Yatsi. And it's like, do you realize how, as a business CEO, how bad you have to screw up that you're causing one of the biggest labor movements, which is great. It's great. But it's not, in Bob Iger's mind, it's not great.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Although now he's backtracking his comments, too. Yeah, of course he is. Of course he has to. Um, but it's like the, the, that's how, I mean, it's how dire things have gotten out here that, um, the good things are happening that we're having, you know, we're having these conversations that we need to have and that we're, we're forcing the situation to improve working conditions for everybody. Um, I don't know because it, it's, it seems to me, it feels entirely dependent on the producers and when, and, and I, and I, and I kind of wonder, considering, I know they're going out, they're like, well, we're actually, we're saving money. It's like, well, you know, let's have this conversation and get this time next year and see how you're doing.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So what are they, is just the fact that they're so scared about revealing their streaming numbers. It's like, what are you? And that's been, and that's been like a Netflix thing. Netflix kind of set that bar from the, from the outright. They were the ones that was like, yeah, we're going to, we're not telling anybody what it is. And we're not, we're not. And it's funny. I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I saw a lot of people in the comments defending me. that. Like you don't have to, like, you don't reveal what you make, you don't do this. And it's like, yeah, that's a lot different though, because I'm not responsible for the well-being of a lot of different people. And I know not necessarily they weren't singling on me, but just in general. But yeah, so I think that when it comes to the pushback of these things, they have to do it, because the strike itself, I think, is also, I think it is going to go into, I go back and forth. Warner Brothers is going to start to push hard to get to people at the table soon, I think.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I think Warner Brothers and Zazlov are going to start to push the studios to get it done because they've got Dune, Wanka, and what's the other big one? Dune, Wanka, and they have an Aquaman. They have three massive movies coming out all this year by the end of the year without any actors promoting it.
Starting point is 00:10:59 They're going to take another hit, and they can't afford to Disney. Certainly, I don't know how many movies they have coming out right now, but Disney also has the added problem of their that being linear they have ABC right anybody with a linear network and it is interesting when you have these conversations about how the more you hear about is how Netflix you know created Netflix and everybody tried to rush in to mimic that to the detriment of all their linear things and now it feels like Netflix is one of the major holdouts on this because not only do they have programming either they've they've already filmed you know way in
Starting point is 00:11:34 advance. They also, I was reading a report today about how a lot of, because of the success of school game, a lot of their stuff is South Korean. Yeah. And they don't get any residuals. Like, it's really bleak. When you read about how Netflix is treating their South Korean productions, it's really bleak.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Yeah. And so it's like Netflix is eating everybody's lunch coming and going. You know what I mean? And, and so I think you're right in that I think Warner Brothers, Disney, anything, anything, a more traditional studio, they'll have to. Like, screw Netflix. We've got to try and, like, do something because we can't. They got to.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah. You're just losing, and like you said, you're, you might be saving money today. Yeah. How long are you going to hold out for? I mean, if you're always going to save money, then why keep doing this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, eventually you're going to start losing a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Because that's the rumor anyway that they were losing more than they were saving. I think they were, I think they were definitely saved a lot of money when the writer's strike coming because I said that that was, that was deliberate what they did. They, they had no, they didn't meet with the writers for three months. Yeah. And there was deliberate. I said it when their strike happened. I go, they want this to happen.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Because they have so many deals in place that can expire, they can get rid of, they can do this. They don't have to go through with some of the deals that were signed because there's no work. So they're saving a lot of money. So that was something that now, once the actors kind of got involved, now it's going to start getting, like Blue Beetle's going to take a hit. Because now I don't think Sholo, Medaduania, you know, out there promoting it is going to make this movie do an additional 10 or 15 million, but he certainly got a very charismatic personality, and he is likable, and if you watch Cobra Kai, you really, you know, gravitate towards him. If you've ever had a chance to see him in an interview, I've had the pleasure of being able
Starting point is 00:13:22 to interview him a couple times, and he's a great human being. He really is, and I root for him, and I hope the movie does well. The trailers to me have been okay, but I root for him, but without him going out there and get more people to say he's also young he knows how to make viral videos pop and all this stuff to get it out to the and I think that it's uh I don't know I think that that is one of the movies that's going to take the big hit I don't know where where you stand on that well you know it's I wonder because originally was supposed to be max right it was supposed to be max original so I don't know what its budget compares to 150 or something yeah something like 150 I think it was something pretty I feel like we we talked
Starting point is 00:14:01 talked about this. We talked about this when we were talking about Mission Impossible. Like, we talked about the Indiana Jones budget and everything. 20. Yeah. Again, I bring this up a lot. Everything everywhere at once had a $25 million budget. Yep. When you're seeing, when you're seeing, less with the 120, but when you're seeing like Indiana Jones is 300 million, ridiculous. Most of that's going into producers pocket. Most of that is graft. Like it's not going up on the screen. Right. And so that's where you should be like, like, you're right. They're probably cutting, cutting deals and everything. But that's, and that's the unfortunate thing is, Zazlov's paycheck is not on the table.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Iger's paycheck is not on the table. You know what I mean? It's these workers, even though that's where those paychecks are where you'd save the money. I hope Blue Beetle does well. I am looking, I look forward to it one, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:47 because it's, I don't, is it the first blockbuster superhero film that's Latino led? That's, that's what I had. I had the, when I talked to Sholo, that's what I was under the impression that it was.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah. So for that alone, like, that's huge. And so I hope people really show up to it and really respond to it. Not out of support of the studios or the Zavslavs of the world, but people like Show-Lo. And the director and the people that really bled for it. I feel like that has been getting better buzz than Aquaman. And I've got to imagine it's got a significantly lower budget than Aquaman does. Definitely. And with all the reshoots, Aquaman's already gone through four rounds of reshoots. I mean, now reshoots in general are normal,
Starting point is 00:15:36 but not four rounds. Four rounds is a lot, and James Gunn apparently ordered some recently, too. So whether or not that movie comes out in December, who knows. But that movie, the reason why they're taking a risk on that one is because the first one went a billion dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Now, this movie, the problem, the only reason that I think that Aquaman will, even if it's not a great movie, we'll do significantly better than Blue Beatles because it's got a recognizable IP. It's got a bigger movie star. It's coming off of, it's a sequel to a billion dollar movie. Blue Beetle is a, you know, it's whether Sholo is very charismatic or not, not a big, not a big known star,
Starting point is 00:16:12 minus the Cobra Chi people. And the trailer played pretty, I think, generic. Yeah. I think, here's what I like about the trailer, what I saw. No multiverse, no, whatever. Just do the thing. Just do the thing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:28 that's all where I just want to see Blue Beetle be cool. That's all. Were you, were you pretty familiar with the character? Yeah, Hamir is. Yeah, like Jaime Reyes. The trailer looks cool. And again, I'm kind of burnt out on just where these places have gone. And I think, you know, back to your point with whether WB specifically come back to the table, like, can they afford another flash?
Starting point is 00:16:53 No, they can't. You know what I mean? Can they afford another? Like, you know, Barbie was a hit. and despite Mattel being like we're making a magic eight ball movie it wasn't because of Barbie
Starting point is 00:17:04 it was partially you know obviously brand recognition but a lot of it was Greta Gerwig and Margo Rhabi and Ryan Gosling and it's different yeah and it's different and also and it's and it is for it's a movie that is absolutely geared towards female
Starting point is 00:17:19 audience which there's not a lot of movies people are what are you talking about all this so many female leads in comic movies but it's not geared Yeah. Just because just because of a female lead doesn't get scared. Because the superhero films have eaten up rom-coms. They've eaten up, you know, everything, all these other genres, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:36 But yeah, so like that's, you know, as far as the bottom line, you know, Barbie did well. But yeah, I hope you're right. I hope it's stuff like, oh, damn, we got to get, we got to get Jason. I'm all out there promoting stuff. We got to get, you know what I mean? Or you got to push it. Yeah. Or you got to push it because that's that if Warner Brothers can't get anybody else to go to the table like Netflix and everybody else to.
Starting point is 00:17:57 then they're going to have to push those movies because they need Wonka to hit. Because from what everybody's saying, Wanka's fantastic. Aquaman is the thing with Aquaman and The Flash and even Shazam, those movies, I don't give James Gunn shit when it comes to him promoting these movies the way that he has, even when he's saying that The Flash is one of the greatest superhero movies. because he's putting in this he's got a the studio has to make money and it's and it's not his he wasn't it was before him but he still it's it's a momentum thing as he gets to superman legacy yeah so if you have black adam which ironically enough is going to be the movie that actually out of all of them
Starting point is 00:18:45 does maybe Aquaman but but does the best because that's a movie that was people only saw it because of two reasons the rock and henry capo yeah that was that was it. The movie didn't, no one knew who Black Adam was, minus the hardcore fans. Shazam 2 ate it. And I don't think, I think it was fine, but it ate it. And then, yeah, and then the flash, which I liked, I enjoyed, how did you like the Flash? The Flash wasn't for me. I wasn't, yeah, yeah, yeah, I liked it, but it doesn't matter what, what I liked, it, it ate a big pile of crap, so. Yeah, and it's one of those things, like, if the, maybe if the, if the, if the budget had been more reasonable, maybe if it came out one of was supposed to, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:21 there wasn't a lot of issues with the main star. Boy, if it came out, it was supposed to, we wouldn't. It would have been pre all that. That's true. That's 2017. Yeah, it would have been free all that. So you would have dodged those bullets. Yeah, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:19:33 It's tough. And it just, I think I, you'd like to think that the CEOs would look at the, look at the environment. Look at like, okay, stuff like Flash and Black Adam and whatever, aren't doing. Shazam aren't doing well. Every union's on strike, basically. And what did well was Barbie and Oppenheimer. And it's like, wait. should we like go back to the drawing board?
Starting point is 00:19:56 And it's like, yeah, you'd like to think that would be the answer. I've been saying, as you mentioned, you know, I've been saying scale back. Because 120 is not a bad budget for a superhero movie. It really isn't. It just stands out because it was originally a max movie. So it's like, wait a second. Yeah. And it doesn't have any major stars in it, right?
Starting point is 00:20:15 But 120 for a DC movie, not crazy. Yeah. When you start hitting that 170 and up, that's when you go, all right, this better be, this better be, you know, a really great movie. You better have some, and the other reason Barbie did so well, the marketing was fantastic. It was fantastic. And if you got to, and it just, and it was different. So you've got, like, Indiana Jones to me at $300 million was a crime.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Yeah. Like, it's a crime. Like, you should be laughed out of the office when you present a $300 million budget. Because I do think, yes, you're right. A lot of the stuff went to producers and all those things and maybe too many producers on the movie who got paid, Harrison Ford fees and all that stuff. But it also went to an ending, not the very last, you saw the movie, right?
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah, yeah. Not the very last scene, but the actual ending of the movie was probably $80 to $100 million, and it should have been $20, $30, scaled down the way the last crusade was. So there's ways to spend and ways to enhance your story that the studios just feel like, oh, well, they need to shove popcorn in their face,
Starting point is 00:21:19 like, you know, just, uh, and not give them any. to latch on to. It's like watching a bunch of degenerate gamblers. It is. Like, you know, like, if we script a $300 million, it'll be a billion? And it's like, will it though? Right.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Will it? Right. You know, you're not wrong. You know, how much, wait, how much did everything everywhere make? So it was the budget was 25. We did this. It's an insane amount. And then you know who, you know who is the king of the moneyball strategy here?
Starting point is 00:21:46 Blumhouse. Blumhouse. Oh, Blum, yeah. They're the king. I think they just did something recently. recently. And their movies aren't always great, but they spend like $20 million or $5 million on it. And they make like $200, $300 million. I would rather you present me, if I'm a studio exec, present me with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Hit me with the $5 million. Okay, $5 million. That's tough. You're going to get a lot of people in it? Yes, because we believe in it. It's going to make $200 million. Okay, as opposed to, you presented me with $250, $2.75 and we could lose, we have to make back just $350 or $400 just to break even? Literally every person on the planet that watches movies needs to see this movie twice for us to make our money. And it's like, what are we doing? Right. Unless your name is James Cameron, don't present a big budget. Which, who knows how, who knows?
Starting point is 00:22:28 Let's try that. So let's see. We have at a 100, it made 141 million with a, what was it, the budget was, yeah, around 25 was when I looked up. Something like that, 25 million, but it made 141 worldwide. Yeah. Yeah. And that movie, it looks great.
Starting point is 00:22:45 It did. It got awards, which these people care about. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's, and again, it's just one of those. like, why are, not again, and it's like, listen, we love this stuff, we love this genre stuff. Not that I want every director to be snapped up by a Star Wars or a Marvel. But you'd think they're like, well, yeah, let's get these guys, give them a $25 million budget to do.
Starting point is 00:23:06 A Star Wars movie? Or Star Wars or, you know what I mean, whatever. Here's the difference. Here's the problem with that, though, is what happens then, and this is, and rightfully so, if you have to pull all these strings on a $25 million budget, because in the long run, even though $25 million is a lot of money to you and I. In filmmaking, it's really not. It's nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:25 So if you and I are directing the $25 million movie together, and we're like, all right, let's pull all these stuff. We can do this. Let's do this. We've got a shoestring. And it's probably what made the movie as great as it was because you can't kind of rest back. You don't have everybody doing stuff for you.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And then Disney comes and goes, okay, guys, now we want you to direct Star Wars for $25 million. You're like, you got to afford more than $25 million? You know what I mean? And then you ask for $50 or $70. And we're in a room together. We know what we couldn't do on and everything. Everywhere.
Starting point is 00:23:54 We couldn't do that big thing we wanted to do. But if Disney gives us an extra 50, we can do it. That's what happens in the room also. Like the creatives are going, shoot, if we have it now, let's try to do this. And it's like, you almost wish that's all you, that's what happened with Deadpool. Deadpool had a very small budget. They had to cut a lot of stuff from Deadpool. And it was better because of it.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Well, it's interesting too because, you know, going back to these VFX artists unionizing is a lot of these studios, I feel like I could make an argument that I've been coasting off of the ability to abuse these VFX artists, specifically Marvel is, I think, a great example where it's like when you see Love and Thunder, why is Thor's helmet CG?
Starting point is 00:24:32 Why? It's a helmet. Put a helmet on them. And hopefully, you know, being forced, it's a bummer that people have to be forced in a position to take care of people, but being forced in a position to take those positions more seriously, I would hope would get us back into a position
Starting point is 00:24:47 where it's like, let's have the script be done before we film. Yeah. That's the thing, of the stuff that James Gunn said about his big announcement, the thing that stood out to me the most was that idea of like, we're not moving forward with a movie until the script is done. Which is great. Let's hope he sticks with it. Yeah, exactly. And so, like, you know, that because you used to have to, you know, part of the reason Jurassic Park still looks good today.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Yeah. What? 93. Yeah, 90, so almost 30 years ago. It was 30 years ago. is he had to think about it. It's just like, we'll just throw it into to the computer guys
Starting point is 00:25:21 and they'll do a thing. They actually had to figure out like, oh, well, the CG things knew. And, you know, they had to go to puppeteers and instead of like, and figure out how the stuff would look and work. And it's like, that's the kind of thought you need to put into stuff
Starting point is 00:25:33 to, I think, more reliably get a product people will want to go see. Well, that's also why these big strike points are happening with AI. Yeah. And it's so funny yesterday, Mike and I were talking about it. And I said, look, the way that the world is work, is that like, and I made it so funny.
Starting point is 00:25:47 You know how it is with the internet, but I was talking about how I am, I'm with all the points that are being fought for. You need to be paid for your likeness. I think AI's dangerous. I think all this stuff. But then I followed it up by saying, I do think though,
Starting point is 00:26:01 because kids and the way that they're kind of going to be growing up, like me, you, people older than us, are going to be fighting for it. This is not natural. This isn't. And then kids, when it is just that they're going to know it that way, it's going to be second nature to them.
Starting point is 00:26:13 They're just going to see it. And people like, Mike's trying to convince Christian why AI is bad. I'm like, I understand why it's bad. I understand that, but I'm like, well, he just says, just go with it. It's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:26:23 It's going to happen. I mean, it's just the way that the world is going. I think the nature, you know, like, I think what I've been saying about AI is, AI is a tool, right? Yeah, it is. And there's nothing inherently good or bad about tools. The problem is we live in a system
Starting point is 00:26:35 that prioritizes tools over people. Yeah. Because you don't need to pay a tool. Right. You buy a tool, you know? And I think that, my problem isn't AI. My problem is how, how corporations and studios will use AI to screw over people.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And that's the thing that, you know, if we can figure that. Because, you know, a lot of what I, you know, I use Photoshop a lot. I use Adobe a lot. I remember seeing Hale Caesar, the Coen Brothers film, Heel Caesar. And there's a bit with Francis McDormid. It's set in like the 50s or 60s and she's editing.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And so anytime you see like old school reel-to-reel editing, it's like, I would have never been an editor. I would never, you know. I had to do it. I had to do it for, I was part. of New York Film Academy. When I went to, when I was in Florida State, I was in a New York Film Academy at UCLA.
Starting point is 00:27:21 But at the time, they were still cutting with film. Dude. Yeah. And so, like, you could look at that, you know, the stuff like Adobe Final Cut, stuff like that, is those tools that change, or in Photoshop, which changed from traditional post art and everything. And, you know, the argument there is that while those didn't,
Starting point is 00:27:41 I would say, I would say improve the process. It made it easier, definitely. It didn't necessarily cut people out of the equation. Right, right, absolutely. Especially out of, and I saw somebody did a tweet, and I can't remember who it was,
Starting point is 00:27:56 but it was one of those like, I don't want to live in the world where we're doing all the crappy jobs, and machines are the ones getting to do poetry and art and stuff, and it's really, why is this the book we're giving you? So bizarre. Yeah. I'll tell you the one thing, though, that machines definitely can't do.
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Starting point is 00:32:02 They're all linked in the description and pinned on the comments. Okay, let's move to the next topic here. All right, more Galgado's stuff, man. She says, D.C. bosses told her that she has nothing to worry about when it comes to a Wonder Woman return. So in a new interview, Gal Gadot once again makes it clear that DC Studios, co-CEOs, Gunn, and Saffron have assured her that they want to develop another Wonder Woman movie with her. Gal Gadot recently surprised us all by revealing that as far as she knew, James Gunn and Peter Saffron were planning to develop a third Wonder Woman movie
Starting point is 00:32:37 with her back in the lead role as the iconic. Amazon Warrior. Again, this article comes from Mark Cassidy over a comic book movie. Since the new DCU or was supposedly being developed as a full reboot, it was generally assumed that Godot, along with Cavill, and the rest of the original Snyderverse cast,
Starting point is 00:32:53 would be replaced as their respective characters going forward. Now it looks like that Gunn intends to pick and choose which actors and characters he wants to keep. During a new interview with USA Today, conducted prior to the strikes, Godot was asked about her status as Diana, Diana,
Starting point is 00:33:09 after making appearances in both Shazam and The Flash. And she reiterated that Gunn and Saffron are developing another film and have assured her that she's in the best hands when it comes to her future in the role. I guess this is the actual audio here. Do you think you'll play her on screen again? Look, I had a meeting with Peter Zaffran and with James Gunn. And they both told me that they're going to develop a third Wonder Woman with me.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And if I'm quoting both of them, they said you're in the best hands. You've got nothing to worry about. Time will tell. Okay, so there's a lot there, man. Is this politics? Is this politics? Like, you know, is she trying to, like, lobby to stay in there because she knows that the audience will back her
Starting point is 00:33:50 and her gun and saff her right now, like, oh, like, or is this legit? Who knows? Who's to say? What do you think? I think probably not. You think it's not legit? I feel like, I feel like I would be surprised if she can't. back. It would be of the people to come back, I think her and Momoa would be the ones I'm least surprised about of the Justice League people.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Sure, sure. But I just feel like, I just feel like that's kind of like a mistake, right? I think it's a major mistake. I think it's just too confusing. It's like, unless you come out, the one way, and we've talked about this kind of, an nauseam at this point, because, but it just keeps coming up. And I think that the thing is, the one that would make the most sense to me, we're like, okay, I get it. There's been two movies. People love her as Wonder Woman. And it's, If Saffron and Gunn were like, guys, this is going to be an elseworlds movie. We're just going to wrap up this trilogy. We're going to finish it out. We're going to give her one last movie as Wonder Woman because we know you guys want to see it in the same way that Joker had a pretty, had a big audience. It's getting a second movie.
Starting point is 00:34:52 We're doing three with Patinson and Matt Reeves. So we're giving Gal one more. That to me, I'd go, all right, one more movie in the Elseworlds. Not everybody's going to understand it. My dad's not going to know what the hell the Elseworld is, but if that's the case, that's the case. the confusing part is no we're developing another one and what the potential is that she's gonna
Starting point is 00:35:12 it's gonna be a reboot and that she's gonna be the Wonder Woman in the DCU and continue to play her in what you were saying before which is the multiverse stuff and gets all confusing and that's gonna confuse my dad even more. Yeah yeah yeah I think you just gotta
Starting point is 00:35:26 you just gotta clean break it you just gotta be like yeah it's not yeah because because then you're gonna and who knows how much this stuff matters but like the Henry Cavill crowd is gonna be like the only one The only one you get away with, I think, recasting, like, if you're picking and choosing,
Starting point is 00:35:43 like, you get away with Men Affleck because he didn't, he just stopped wanting to be Batman when he was doing Batman v Superman Press. Like, he hasn't wanted to be Batman for a minute. He's done. He did Aquaman as a favor. Yeah. He did Flash as a favor. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:55 He did him as a favor. So, yeah, 100%. But the Cavill thing is the one that is so, because all those guys came back in the Flash and in Aquaman, but they cut out Affleck's role, I guess, in Aquaman. But Cavill had a thing in one of these movies, and they cut his thing out. And it just seems kind of weird that he's, it's like, in order to save yourself from that, just say it's over. We had a good run with all.
Starting point is 00:36:19 And if the Flash had made a billion dollars. And if Aquaman winds up making a lot of money, you're like, oh, look, maybe there's some merit to keeping this thing alive in the else worlds. And like, given another one or one movie, maybe bringing Henry back for something else too, and have like a side thing. It makes some money over there. And then we start our own and we combine it. And then we can do it.
Starting point is 00:36:37 a movie with all of them too because it's a multiverse thing down the line. But nobody those movies are eating it. And there's movie, yeah, they're eating and I think the Snyder cut crowd, I think, is never really contended with the fact that those movies never really did that
Starting point is 00:36:51 well. You know what I mean? Like, like, and so it's one of those that's like, I think you, I think the decisions are you either reboot, start, we're starting from scratch. Right. Or you could have done soft like, listen, Campbell's still around.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Godot's still around, but a soft reset. Yeah. You know, being in between, and it's tricky, because then, all right, are we saying no more John Cena's peacemaker? Are we saying no more Margo Robbie is Harley Quinn? Like those are, but also like, how much longer is Marco Robbie going to be one and do Harley Quinn? I think she's only going to do it for James Gunn because I think she, I think they get along
Starting point is 00:37:29 well. Suicide Squad was one of my favorite, his suicide squad was my favorite comic book movies. And that movie didn't do very well at all. Yeah. But that was also... It was pandemic and stuff too. But it was... It still, it was...
Starting point is 00:37:41 It was fantastic. I love that. And then because of that movie, it was because of that movie that I got more excited for Peacemaker, because I've never been a big John Sina acting fan. John Sina was phenomenal in Peacemaker. Just phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I loved that show. And I had actually watched that show before I started watching the boys. So I started watching it and I'm like, oh, this show's the best. You got to watch the boys. I'm not going to like it more than this. I like it more.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Boys are pretty great. The boys are pretty awesome. But I love Peacemaker, but as much as I love it, you've got to let it go. Yeah, yeah. If you're going to do this stuff and you want an end for David Corenswet and for Rachel Brosnahan and everybody, you got to give them a fresh break. And truthfully, I think he's kind of making a mistake with the whole like, and you could feel them trying to get that stuff out prior to the strike where it's like, we got a Superman movie and also Green Lantern's here and Metamorpho. It's like, don't. I just gave me flashbacks to like black ass.
Starting point is 00:38:35 and Flash and it's like, just do the movie, man. I don't mean all these things, because now I'm confused. Right. How long has this- He responded to that? How long has this Superman been Superman? Right. He did respond to that, though, and he said, because I had the same critique, and he said, it was, it is just to acknowledge that these type of beings exist in the world still
Starting point is 00:38:56 where he's at, he's not the only one. And that's, which if it doesn't overpower the movie, and it's, I'm fine with it. Because I would like to see, as you said, too, a Superman story. I want to, I don't know David Cornswet. I don't want to start watching him do this. And then I'm like, oh, there's Nathan Philean. And then there's that person too. And oh, oh, yeah, I forgot about this David Corrin Sweat guy.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I got a, I got a, you know, the same way you did with Henry Cavill. Henry Cavill had his own movie with Manistiel. And true, you know, Zod and stuff came in, but that was his villain. Yeah. You know, like, I thought, like, I don't know where you said. I like Man of Steel's fine. Manist Steel's fine. I think my, as these, as that trend of movies went on, I soured on it more.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I think I'm with you. The Suicide Squad is my favorite of, it's really good. But it is a bummer because that the teaser in Black Adam, it was like, oh, dang, it's Superman. Because it was the first time like, he's smiling. And he seems, his costume is brighter and it's like, oh, Henry Campbell can do it. And then it's like, he's not going to do it. Oh, but he just showed us he could do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:00 And it's true because that that was. so Josh Harwood's had him on right as all this stuff was going down and he was so excited to be back and he not by gun but he was lied to tremendously and not by the Rock. There was other people inside of that there were deals that already made
Starting point is 00:40:16 and Rock was trying to get him in and to do the stuff and the Rock was this thing that Galgat Dote's doing brings me a little bit of flashbacks to kind of what the Rock was doing with Cavillware she's out there talking about the now grand this was before the strike but she's still
Starting point is 00:40:31 every interview that she's asked about she's saying the same thing so she's pretty much like now holding saffron and Gunn's feet to the fire this is what you told me guys and the audience they responded to it and then because there is that world where Gunn and Safran had a meeting with her
Starting point is 00:40:47 and said okay we think Flash is going to do pretty good Aquaman made a billion I want to make a billion we're going to do one more movie with you the doors open we're going to do one movie and then Shazam Black Adam you know flash and you're like oh no maybe we should just end this thing and then gal Gadot's out they're going
Starting point is 00:41:06 this is what they said they're in a no win position yeah yeah when she was in both shazam and the flash she was yeah yeah so there was clearly like it also it's also interesting that they didn't use i don't know how the best do that right it's interesting they didn't use the flash as an opportunity to kind of like re-like i thought they were going to do that yeah yeah i thought that's what they're sure or like you know so you're sitting there for the post credit and it's like oh oh aquamans drunk with the Flash. And it's like, well, is Aquaman going to be the movie that resets it? How does that work? Well, I was confused by that too. The way
Starting point is 00:41:35 that I read that post-credit scene in the comments so I told me I was wrong, so I just gave up on it. The way that I read that post-credit scene in the Flash, and it's a spoiler for the Flash if you haven't seen it. It's been out, so you can fast forward. Flash shows up at the end. He's in a different reality because he made the change with his dad
Starting point is 00:41:53 and Clooney is the Batman in that version. So then when I read when he's finds drunk Arthur, he's like, everywhere I go, there's a different Batman, but everywhere I go, you're still the same. Isn't that what he said to him? Something along those lines. Seems right, yeah. Then that kind of explains how they can do Aquaman. Yeah, new universe, but he's still Aquaman. Yeah, if they do, if they're like, you know, because then that's what the reshoot was maybe,
Starting point is 00:42:18 and they can combine that like, oh, well, that's what he did and he was able to do that. So because, you know, Ezra went back there, did what he had to do. Yeah. I don't know. I just think at this point, Affleck doesn't want to be Batman. You already let go, Henry Cavill. You've got all the issues with Ezra Miller. You know, it's just, I think it's just cleaner to just like, you know, is Jared Lettel going to be your Joker? Like, just move on. You're just going to be. You just got to start. That's it. Start from scratch. And I think, I mean, my big thing for a long time was I would have, I would have built off the Batman. I would say the Batman is our new, you know, because it's too hard. though with kids. That's the only problem with it. The only problem is...
Starting point is 00:43:02 That is a very good point. That is a very good point. You can merchandising, man. One, I think, you know, I think you make a good point because I think, I think they leaned too hard into... David Fincher style. Well, not, no, I'm talking about generally the DCU with Snyder and everything was like, we're not your, we're not your dad's comic book movie.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And that was how they were going to differentiate themselves from Marvel. But I don't know if you've checked out the new on Adult Swim, but I'm watching on Max. my adventures with Superman, it's great. It's like really good. It's definitely like, it's not for us, it's for kids,
Starting point is 00:43:34 but like the idea of some eight-year-old watching this and having this be their first Superman is like really exciting. And so that's a good reminder of like, yeah, and I don't know how you fit, because obviously we just talked about how much we love the Suicide Squad,
Starting point is 00:43:46 which was R, as opposed to something like Man of Steel, which just was more, it was PG-13, but it was just, you know, darker for a PG-13 movie. But I do think you want to have that accessibility to younger audiences
Starting point is 00:43:59 because at the end of the day it's a guy and we keep flying around. Like this is, you know. But also, when you look at theater demographics, right? Like, it's always been this way that it's younger, it's the younger tickets that spike.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Like, it's the 14, like 22. Like that's, and you got to aim to that. And I'm not telling you that there's not a lot of people inside of that range, maybe in the, in the teenager and up that don't like the more serious kind of darker tones. Of course there's a lot that do. but in a worldwide appeal,
Starting point is 00:44:30 I like where they went with the Batman. I really do. And I love that David Fincher approach to it for sure, and I can't wait to see the other two. And I'm so excited for the penguin. But as you mentioned before, the Caval scene, I want to see Superman like that again. And this is coming from a Man of Steel fan.
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Starting point is 00:46:23 All right, let's talk about some fantastic four, DJ. All right. So this has been the thing. There's so many different rumors every other Wednesday about who's getting cast, who's doing this. And Jeff Snyder, Shmodeon legend. And him and John Roker on the hot mic had the scoop that they say Vanessa Kirby is locked. Vanessa Kirby is a done deal. And then they say that Joseph Quinn from Stranger Things is Johnny Storm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Now Jeff had said, well, let's go there first. do you take do you think that this is our cast or you think that there's no we haven't we haven't found who we haven't found him yet I think um I don't know but what weirds me out about it is why now like why during the strike
Starting point is 00:47:10 because like Vanessa Kirby's not I would think not you know yeah yeah so is this like why does it because like you just mentioned it's like we're still like every other week like fantastic foreign news is this and I've always felt with this casting stuff because it always feels like, you know, you get the rumors before you get the thing or whatever. So it always feels strategic in a way. Is this the way like keep people interested like, hey, I know you
Starting point is 00:47:34 all hated secret invasion, but remember, I mean, that's a force gun. You know, this, this one, because I know Jeff, this isn't anything Marvel wanted out there. Okay, okay. This isn't it. This is, Jeff's just, Jeff's just got the inside track. Yeah. So what I think happened inside of that, and I haven't spoken to Jeff about it, but if I was, I've spoken to him about previous things, what I assume probably happened was he talked to his person, the person that gives him the, the, scoops and whose name and social security numbers is also David Grush but no he he's associated with with this guy you know and so the guy the guy gives him or girl gives him gives them the news and he basically what I think it is is Marvel was has a list
Starting point is 00:48:14 and says okay we know that we're going we still have to work on these projects we're not on strike we have to work on these things and we've auditioned these people we can't talk to them right now we can still talk to their agents we can talk to stuff too, but the ones that we've seen and the tapes that we have and the stuff that we did before the strikes, here's our list. We have her, her, her, her for, and I think that Vanessa Kirby might be our girl. And the person is, hears of it and goes, hey, Jeff, guess what I heard. I love the imagery of, like, I imagine, cup to the door. Like, ah, right. Email is a slander immediately. That's, I mean, but that's usually kind of the stuff that that happens, right? And
Starting point is 00:48:49 I don't know if necessarily that's how it went down, but that's how I would assume it's not a matter of like, oh, Vanessa Kirby just got a phone call. She has nothing to do with any of this. The same way that's why you're not going to get a lockdown casting announcement for sure until it's a done deal. I just think that that's probably this person got a hold of the list. Why do you think what is it about Fantastic Four that it has appeared to be so volatile that we've gotten like however many, how many rounds of rumors are we into?
Starting point is 00:49:20 Why people are so excited about it? Not necessarily why people are so excited about it. It's just why does it. it, why does it feel more, like, why are there so many rumors? Why is it, why this movie of the movies has it been so, like, up and down? Yeah, yeah. It's this guy. Actually, no, it's this guy.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Actually, no, it's this guy. I think because it's such a, like, recognizable comic that was so popular and one of the most popular, and it's just never been done right. Yeah. Like, the Tim Story ones are just kind of, like, cotton candy versions of it. They're entertaining if you're on a, but it's not good movie. Yeah. The Josh Trank one was a disaster.
Starting point is 00:49:57 And they haven't done it right. Marvel's and Kevin Feige's wanted to get a hold of it for so long, and they finally do. So, and they're, in my opinion, Fantastic Four and X-Men are going to be the leads of phase six and seven and potentially eight. Yeah. So you've got to get those right. Because the other thing is who are you real? And this is a conversation that Winston and Coy and I have had in, are you sports fan? No.
Starting point is 00:50:23 No. But you'll get the reference in general. But it's like who are you all stars right now? I mean, and not like good players. Like who are your all stars? Like back, you could say Black Widow and you could say Tony Stark and Captain America and Hulk and Thor, who are your stars right now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:42 You don't have any. Like in the same way, you'd be like, well, wait a minute, wait a minute. His guardians have just walked off the court for the last time. And you say the Marvels, well, they've had, even Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel had a good game with the billion-dollar movie, not an All-Star just yet. Maybe she's an All-Star with End Game, maybe, but they had to pair her up.
Starting point is 00:51:01 They didn't give her her own second movie. And then same thing. Shung-She had a great game. Don't know if he's an All-Star yet. It's like, who are the All-Stars? And the Fantastic Four, having even had a movie, and they're All-Stars. Because they've had that.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And so that's why I think the casting is so important, and why? Because it's like the Spider-Man casting, or it's like a Batman casting. It just has that thing. Who's going to play? even the Josh Trank won. It wasn't good, but everybody was so excited
Starting point is 00:51:27 to who the hell is going to be in the movie. So that's what I think. Yeah, no, that makes sense. I think it's just interesting to me and I wonder what it speaks to. You mentioned the Spider-Man casting because I think that is comparable, but it was one of those,
Starting point is 00:51:38 who could it be Tom Holland? Wow. As opposed to Fantastic Four, who could it be, it's kind of this guy, or it's Vanessa Kirby or it's Margo Robbie or it's da-da or it's da-da. And it's like, why this time is it so...
Starting point is 00:51:50 Like, I think, like, when it was like Yelena below, It was like, it could be Emma Watson and no, it's Florence Pugh. The end. You know what I mean? That's it. Well, I think maybe because they want to, it's like, they just want to get it right. But also, the other reason is because of what we just talked about with reports.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Yeah. Because a lot of times, it's either, like you said, Hollywood reporter reports that it's two actors, two actors that are up for the role. And then it's like, well, who's it going to be? But now in the age that we live in also with got to break the scoop, got to get the hits. Yeah. a casting list comes in with eight different names on it. Well, they're in it. It's like, oh, well, there's like eight different people.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And James Gunn said this. I think it was on Michael Rosenbaum's podcast where, and I looked at it so differently after this. And it makes so much sense. Again, using the you and I think, it's like, if you're my client and I'm like, okay, you know what? I got you an audition for Fantastic Four. Yeah. So go on in. And then it's an okay audition.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Like, it's fine. Yeah. But then I leaked that. I leak it to Snyder. Hey, DJ's up for, uh, for, for, Fantastic. We went into read for Fantastic Four, and it looks pretty good. And he's, they said, DJ Wildridge, went into read for Fantastic Four, and he could be up from it. And your name now is all over the place. And it's everywhere. And even if, I'm like, I know he didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:53:04 It's fine, but just now people are talking about it. Yeah. So, and I think that that's, I think that's honestly what helped David Cornswet. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that makes sense. Yeah. Because before that was what, Pearl and I knew he did some Netflix shows. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's interesting. I mean, if it is Vanessa Kirby, she's great. She's great in the Mission Impossible movie. She was great. And Hobbs and Shaw. she is she's I don't see the crown she's in the first like two seasons first of the second season she played the queen's sister yeah okay cool yeah she's great yeah she's fantastic
Starting point is 00:53:31 well but it does lend to the next topic though too because if you look at let's say do you watch the bear yeah a couple episodes of season two we talked about so Evan Moss backrock yes so he's rumored to be in the movie
Starting point is 00:53:45 also people and people don't know what the hell he's going to be yeah originally he was rumored for thing I think that would be great. Yeah, because I looked out if he's Jewish. And it's like, that's your guy. That was the first time whenever these rumors came in and that came up. I was like, I mean, yeah, that's your guy.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I mean, if he's on the table, that's your guy. He plays that quiet anger, man. Yeah. It's not like the same type of thing like Hulk. I know that, but he's got to have that attitude. Gruff. Yeah. Cousin.
Starting point is 00:54:10 He's cousin. He's cousin. Yeah. And he can do it. So, but people don't know if he's necessarily going to play the old. And he could be silver. No, dude, he's your thing. If he's not your thing, like what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:54:19 hope he is. But even if he is. So we know him because of the beer. Not a big name. Great actor. Also, Mike Rowe in the first season of Punisher, Fantastic on that. Right. But again, not a big name. A kid from Stranger Things. Yeah. Great actor. I think he's great for Johnny Storm. If he is cast, not a big name. Vanessa Kirby, not a big name yet. Yeah. So that means you've got to have no stars in this unless you put Mr. Fantastic as a star. And this is one of the points I think that Jeff Snyder made also. And this is the, because Adam Driver apparently turned it down. However, there's a new report. Once again, hidden from comic book movie. This is written by Josh Wilding.
Starting point is 00:54:59 And Adam Driver, with the Invisible Woman and Human Tort seemingly a lock for Marvel Studios Fantastic for reboot, we have a Mr. Fantastic update which throws Adam Driver back into the mix. It's getting increasingly difficult to keep up with all these fantastic forecasting rumors, though it now appears of Vanessa Kirby, Joseph Quinn are a lock for Invisible Woman. human torch. Antonio Banderas supposedly remains in the mix to star as Galactus, while Eben Moss Bachrock may end up playing The Devour of World's unnamed Herald while he's not thought to be playing Silver Surfer. It's not outside the realm of possibility. As for Dr. Doom, he isn't currently expected to appear. When it comes to the rest of the Marvel's first family,
Starting point is 00:55:39 however, casting for The Thing remains a mystery to us while Adam, Driver and Matt Smith are both in the mix for Mr. Fantastic. Driver reportedly passed on the reboot after reading an early version of the screenplay due to the fact he was unable to connect with the character. That seemingly would lead to Smith emerging as the new frontrunner, but Marvel Studios isn't done with the former Kylo Renjust yet. According to Scooper Daniel Rickman, the studio plans to meet with Driver again once the strike is over. At this stage, it'll probably be early 2024. The plan is to allow Driver to read Josh Friedman's new script and see if he would be open to playing the MCU's Reed Richards. Unless that knocks his socks off, we're not banking on the actor changing his mind
Starting point is 00:56:16 and wouldn't be shocked if Smith ultimately lands the role. While Hollywood finally returns to business as usual, that will require studios to do the right thing. Then we might finally get some fantastic forecasting news, but the rumor mill shows no sign of slowing down. Okay. I think, did you like House of Dragon? Yeah, loved it. Yeah, it was great. Favorite shows last night.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Yeah, it was fantastic. Loved it. I don't think Matt Smith's right. I think he could be, he's great in that. He's great as the doctor. He was great in Morbius. He was the one. Yeah, he was the watchable part of Moribus.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I like to, shoot, Aronis. Yeah, the love interest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was great, too. But, like, Matt Smith was like, why isn't this guy you're morbis? Right. He's clearly the star of this movie.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Yeah. He's fantastic. But I also don't see a reality. Like, Adam Driver doesn't need this. He doesn't, but they need that kind of power, that kind of star power for Reeve. Because I don't know if Matt Smith has that kind of star power. I think he's more recognizable with House of Dragon now.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Did you see? I'm trying to remember. He did an interview. with somebody and it was clearly one of those guys that like does press that like he's seen him enough of their kind of friends and he joked around of like do you ever play the game this was Matt's George Harwitz. Do you ever play the game movie star or actor?
Starting point is 00:57:32 And he self-clarified if it was himself as an actor. It's like I mean, yeah, probably. You know what I mean? But not that you don't have the skill. You clearly have the skill. But I do, I think Adam Driver would be great specifically if you've seen stuff like white noise where he brings like hardcore dad energy.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Yeah. It was like, yeah, that Adam Driver, I think we do a really good job. And that's what I think. I think that I think Driver would be fantastic in it. And I think they're going to do whatever they can to get him. I think driver's going to be the guy. I do. I think that, and I think that he does he match up well with, shoot.
Starting point is 00:58:06 My God, what's her name? We just talked about Vanessa Kirby. Thank you. My head's fried. Yeah, but I think he matched up with her. Well, Matt Smith could too. Yeah. Look, Matt Smith's one of my favorite things, the House of the Drag.
Starting point is 00:58:14 He's really good in it, but it's a very different character. And I'm not saying that he couldn't get there. I just think that you do need somebody as opposed to, as he said it himself with an actor. Like, you're going to look at him and you go, oh, that's the guy from House of Dragon. House of the Dragon, as opposed to, oh, that's Adam Driver. Yeah. I also think they'd probably run into, they'd probably make what I would think would be an error, which would be they'd think about Matt Smith's time as the doctor.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Yeah, right. And having him be like, you know, he's that kind of smart jerk guy. And it's like, you already did that twice. You got that. You got Iron Man. You got Dr. Strange. You did that bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:49 So I think having Mr. Fantastic be a little bit more cheery, a little bit more goofy, a little bit more dad joke guy, I think would be a good change of pace. And we get away from Adam Driver having to be so solemn. Scouting and grumpy. Yeah, because he can do a lot. Yeah, he's got incredible range. Yeah. And so I think that would be cool.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I didn't like that. And then they're like, well, Dr. Doom's not going to show up. I'm like, guys, you got to see your orders in the pipeline. Put Dr. Doom in that movie. I think he'll be in the post. Yeah, maybe. I think it'll be the most. Because remember, as I said, if the movie does very well, Fantastic Four is going to have a Fantastic Four, two, and a three, and then he'll be around a lot more. Because I told you who my, I don't know if you know who my pick is for Dr. Doom, and there's no, there's been no rumors of it. There's been nothing. I just think it's such a, it would be such a great poll. I would love to see Henry Cavill as Dr. Jim. Yeah, great. I would love to see him, but there's no chance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also think he would get, I would get pushed back because of height and everything. I also think he would be really good as Wolverine.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Yeah. I think the problem with Wolverine, though, too, because I think he's perfect, personality-wise, right? The problem is that X-Men, to me, is going to have to carry on for another 10 or 15 years. Cavill is like 43 years old. That's the only, that's the main, and that's one of the major things. It's like, that's, if you're not going to, because you're going to go away from the, I mean, shoot, Henry, Henry, Henry Jackman. Hugh Jackman was in early 30s or something. like 32 or something. Yeah, some early.
Starting point is 01:00:20 So he, I think that they're going to, I still think that it'll be Taryn Engerton. But you need to, my only issue with Taryn Agerton is the, the, he's got the youth, but he looks young. Or is Hugh Jackman, he was 32, but he didn't look, he looked, he looked, when you said, like, this guy's been around for a long time. And it's like, and he's got the, if you've seen Blackbird, um, Taryn has got the build.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's got the build for it. Yeah. Um, he is, he just, he just reads as, he just reads as, as little young. Yeah. 33. 33.
Starting point is 01:00:48 33. Yeah, so he's got the right, he just comes across as a little young, and I think you'd need somebody. But I think you're, you make a good point with Cabell. My, I've always thought for Doom, there's this actor. Did you see, um, the Northman? Yes. The guy that plays the evil uncle on that, he also played Dracula in the Netflix Dracula show. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Um, and I think he'd be really great. If you've seen him, he's very sassy as Dracula. And so I think he'd be a very good, um, I think he'd be a very good, um, I think he'd be a very good, uh, doom. Yeah, Klaus, I think that's how you pronounce it, Klaus Bang. Oh, I see. Yeah, again, if you've watched the Netflix Dracula show, and you see, he'd be, okay, he'd be good for Doom. He'd be a good
Starting point is 01:01:28 doom, yeah, he'd be a good, I think he's, yeah, yeah, I can see that. Uh, yeah, yeah, kind of like um, uh, sassy, he doesn't do that in the Northman, he's very, everybody's very grim of the Northman, but, uh, but in Dracula, he's got that a, he's got that look. Sassy, smarter than you, uh, vibe. Sure, sure. Um,
Starting point is 01:01:43 I'm excited to see where that's going to go because depending also what's going to go down with this Jonathan Major's trial in September, they might shift and make Doom the focus. They should either do that or they should call an audible and do high evolutionary. Yeah, and bring it. Because he was great.
Starting point is 01:02:02 He was great. So it's like, oh, actually, no, he's the. And I think you could do any, you could just say, no, he's the bad guy now or say like, no, Kang needed the high evolutionary for his master plan. Oh, high evolutionary. rewrote all King's DNA and now everybody's high evolutionary.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Like, yeah, it's going to be the end. But, um, that's so, do you question for you, what did you, did you watch Secret Invasion? I bailed after episode two. Okay, great. So that gives me, that tells me what I need to know. Yeah. How, uh, we, you're talking about they need to do, they really need to try and nail fantastic forward.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Where is your faith in that, then being able to accomplish that at this point? With what they're in doing. Yeah. I know. And, um, my faith in that goes to a few different things. things. One is the love that Kevin Feigy has for those particular characters. He won a fantastic foreback for a long time.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Yeah. The fact that you asked me that question in the first place, that they're aware that they need to turn the ship around. Yeah. And also, because of what I mentioned earlier, that they didn't have any stars yet, like major stars. And I know that Don Cheadle and Sam Jackson and their outright are big stars. but not enough to carry a show.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Not enough to end all those different things that happened. I mean, look, they had Calician. It didn't do nothing. They didn't do anything. They just haven't, and we talked about this on the show the other day, this whole phase is supposed to end with Kang Dynasty and secret wars and all this stuff. Multiverse saga ends.
Starting point is 01:03:35 I don't know what this phase is about. And so I think that one of the reasons that I have faith in the Fantastic Four is to me because Dr. Doom is supposed to be one of the big guys in secret wars. That that starts to set up who our heroes are going to be on the other side of that. And it starts to set up the Fantastic Four are going to have a big role in this thing. So that's where I think that they can't afford to screw that up. So that's where my faith comes in it because I'm, I guess I'm a little bit more of, I have faith because of the phase one, two, three.
Starting point is 01:04:06 But if you're asking me, like, if it was a brand new set of people, it's a brand new movie of these new characters, I don't have faith in that anymore, the way they did with Guardians back then because they're not coming on. Like, yeah, it's tougher right now. But I understand, I think the question's more than fair. Do you think there's any, you know, and I'm sure the people at home are like tired of us
Starting point is 01:04:20 talking about the strike and everything because it's not, it doesn't impact them as directly as it does our lives. But beyond that, like, it does affect them entertainment-wise. It does affect them entertainment-wise, and I hope, you know, it's easy. I feel like it's easy for me in this world
Starting point is 01:04:36 of like, everything's entertainment. But I do hope that, you know, obviously there's been the stuff with the UPS. Yeah. And there was the general labor strike, I think, as of this recording, like, what, a couple days ago now. Yeah. I do hope that this is a sign of, like, taking steps to just make our lives more equitable. Because it's just, it's tough, man.
Starting point is 01:04:58 It's just tough right now to be alive in America generally. But so beyond that, you know, obviously, but with the strike, with the fact that stuff like secret invasion isn't being held, there's so much, you know, know, the studios were like IP, IP, IP, IP, IP, IP, IP, IP. And there finally feels like, you know what, hey, maybe, let's do something. And obviously, like, stuff like Barbie is IP, but you know what I mean? Right. Is there any chance of, like, a come-to-Jesus moment with these studio execs or anything? Is there any chance of, they'll, like, reevaluate anything?
Starting point is 01:05:31 So I worked in, you know, I worked in the system for about three and a half years. Yeah. I was, when I worked for, I worked for Joe Silver, and it was, it was, it was, it was, the business was very different back then. But the executives were the same. I was going to say, but the egos weren't that different. It's more about,
Starting point is 01:05:47 because the problem, what happens is that you do get executives that are, I think that they all get a bad rap because there's so many just business, business first mind. There are a lot of really good creative executives out there, like really good ones.
Starting point is 01:06:02 And that they get a bad rap because, oh, you just want money. You're like, no, but not that guy, not that lady. And I've worked with some of them. No, they care. Yeah. But there's the other ones that just, I never forget it.
Starting point is 01:06:13 When we got He Man and Masters of Universe set up, one of the executives and Warner Bros. came over, and when we were pitching it to him at first, he didn't get it. Yeah. He was like, nah, this is, nobody wants to see the Purple Tiger and this and this and that. And then once we got it, he started showing people around it, and he's talking about Laturnia as opposed to Eternia.
Starting point is 01:06:30 And the words, what are you saying? I'm like, oh, now because he sees money and now he's telling him, oh, it's just going to be like whatever the hot movie was at the time. We're going to do this with it. And it's like, this guy had nothing to do it. do with any of this. But now because there's money involved, now his brain, oh, you know what we can really do with it, we can do this and this and this.
Starting point is 01:06:48 And I think that that's what happens where they want to, a lot of the execs hold these jobs and they want to, all right, well, this is what's making money right now. And we can do something like that, but let's do it better. And it's like, just, you don't need to do that. Like, we just had this whole conversation about the budgets.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Now, what I hope happens in that same, in the ironic part of it is I hope that because Iger's like, let's start scaling down on budget that the other execs go, wait a minute, let's start scaling down on budgets. And it's their idea, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when you start focusing,
Starting point is 01:07:19 they don't give a shit about focusing on story. They don't give a shit about a lot of times. They just want to, they think a lot of times, again, not all. Yeah. They think that as long as I can get you to spend money to watch things, go boom. Yeah. And a big superhero thing at the end, you're going to pay for it.
Starting point is 01:07:36 And time is showing that is not working anymore. Yeah. People are starting to go, even the hardcore fans that would see everything, they're going, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know you. I was feeling that more with,
Starting point is 01:07:49 and there's stuff I like about, like I like She Hulk a lot. I like Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness, you know, because they let Sam Ramey, it felt like they let Sam Ramey be Sam Ramey. It's so funny, I didn't like those two.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Yeah, you know, but it's like, yeah. And I think that's one thing that, like, you know, by loosening up the formula a little bit, you know, you get stuff that, you know, you get stuff that, you know, might appeal to some people, but not others, which is only a problem when you're,
Starting point is 01:08:10 spending all the money in the world on it. I think it's dangerous, though, with the Sam Ramy thing, although the argument can be made. That movie is the last Marvel movie to almost make a billion dollars, right? But, like, it's just, there's stuff I like, but you can feel that, like, and it could be a variety of things. You're talking about they don't have any All-Stars, any of that stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:29 But you can finally feel like, almost like an on-way, like, eh, whatever. That's what it is. Well, I brought this stuff not too long ago. I was in New York, and I was with my uncle, who's almost 60 years old and Mike and his oldest son who's about 24. And
Starting point is 01:08:45 I asked my uncle's Flash had just gone. My friend James was with us too. It was my age. And I said, you know, the Flash just came out and I don't do you guys see it. My friend James goes, I'm just over superhero movies. I'm just saying. He's not locked into it. He's like, I'm just over. Even though Michael Keaton was coming back, he's like, I didn't
Starting point is 01:09:02 even know Michael Keenman was at it. So that's which is wild because it's the one thing. Anybody that knew about the fighter Mike Kitz back. Yeah. Right. So he didn't even know that he was in it. And that also shows you that outside the bubble, maybe the marketing wasn't as strong as they kind of hoped that it would be. My uncle was like, I don't know, it just wasn't something I was really interested in, right? I don't know. My cousin is 24 pays attention on TikTok. He's like, like, the guys are Miller stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Not really. He's like, I just don't know what the DCU is. I don't know what it is. He's like, is it connected? Am I invested in this? Am I not invested in it? Is it just a movie? I don't know what it was. It was like it just wasn't marketed to to me and it was three different three different people who just like not singing it yeah so and I think that there's just and like you go to the the comic book movies when they remember it was very hard to get comic book movies made back in the day very hard like the superman was the donner stuff was the was the was the first one and then after that it wasn't until like Batman 1989 well and even then what was the response the response was like oh Batman did well let's make the shadow and the phantom and these pulp heroes and it's like I don't is that the lesson we're taking away from
Starting point is 01:10:07 But dude, look at Star Wars. Star Wars comes out in 77, and then they start making all these generic... George Lucas had to fight and scratch. He had to finance that movie on his own to get Star Wars made, right? And nobody wanted to do that. This is the age of Chinatown and all those different movies,
Starting point is 01:10:23 and it was like, it was the Vietnam era, and everything was kind of really not hopeful. And then after that movie does well, then everyone, oh, let's make Star Wars movie. And they couldn't do it. They couldn't find the formula. And you got... I love Flash Gordon, but it's terrible.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I love it, but it's terrible. And you look at the film made. They need more movies and more movies like that. And that's what they do? They keep finding these, like, what's the thing? Oh, let's do our fantasy thing. Let's do our thing. Let's do our thing.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Let's do that thing. Yeah. And I think that's one of the, I think one of the discouraging things that I hope we kind of, this helps break us out of is this. You bring up Star Wars. You know, George Lewis originally wanted to make a Flash Gordon movie. He did. He didn't. So he made it.
Starting point is 01:10:57 That's right. They wanted to make a James Bond movie, but they couldn't so they made Indiana Jones. Right. And it's, and so, you know, I wouldn't. And it's not these movies, like we just mentioned. and everything everywhere, at least a couple times in this conversation. But it's harder for those movies,
Starting point is 01:11:13 as much as like we talk about like 824 movies and stuff like that. It's harder for that stuff to get the oxygen, the same oxygen. But it's like that's where you get, that's where the IP comes from. You have to do like, you know, the... You've got to make the Matrix.
Starting point is 01:11:30 You know what I mean? You've got to take the jump. You know, even something like Rocky, right? Yeah. Like Robert Redford was supposed to. wanted Robert Redford to play Rocky. They wanted all these people like, Ryan O'Neill to play Rocky.
Starting point is 01:11:40 And he's like, no, I'm playing them. And like, OK, fine. But you're not going to get paid for it, then. You're going to just do this. And it built the whole guy's career. So there's ways to do it. But it's also why the cream rises to the top, as they say. It's because there's so much just mediocrity.
Starting point is 01:11:58 And it's why there's a, I mean, I had fun watching Black Adam. I really did. It's about as generic of a 1990s superhero movie as you get. It's, it really is. And a lot of these movies, that's what I'm worried about with Blue Beetle. It's like the dynamic look good. And yes, it doesn't deal multiverse stuff, but it looks like stuff we've seen before.
Starting point is 01:12:17 And it's just, it's everything, every whole at once again, to bring that up again, is just, you're like, whoa, what was that movie? What the hell is that? And everybody's doing multiverse and shit right now, but they did it in a way. You're like, whoa, that's the way you want to do it. So, yeah, I don't know. It's just a matter of
Starting point is 01:12:33 hopefully they can scale things down. They pay attention more to character. to me that's what I'm always looking for I would be using Indiana Jones which I've made this thing at this point now a couple different times but just to reiterate it to you because I don't think you've heard me make it Last Crusade
Starting point is 01:12:48 What's your favorite Indiana Jones movie? I like Raiders the best But I think But I'll even defend You know there's aspects of all through those movies that are dated now But I'll even defend Temple of Doom I just watched on a plane of that. Yeah it's like it's like this part as blockbuster movie
Starting point is 01:13:03 movie movie knows it's like a perfect trilogy I enjoyed it I enjoy that movie third, but I also understand the argument against Temple of Doom because when you look at this, some silly shit going on in there. But nonetheless, Last Crusade is a phenomenal movie. The difference with like the ending of this latest one, as I mentioned, is probably $70 or $80 million alone just to do this big, grandiose ending that was unnecessary. And you look at the Last Crusade, which is one of the best endings of a movie ever. He's got to do these puzzle pieces of the Pendent Mitchell Pass, and he's got to try to save his dad.
Starting point is 01:13:36 gets into a cave with an old man who's been there forever. And John Williams' music is playing. The only special effects is Donovan's face kind of melting off his body or whatever it is at the very end of it. But it's simple. And it's powerful because of the investment that you made from Frame 1 of the film until the end. And you don't, and not just the dial of destiny, but a lot of these blockbuster movies in general, you're not invested. Because they're just like, oh, just throw the big, bring in the VFX guys. the VFX guys and that's going to look great and they're going to go, whoa.
Starting point is 01:14:10 And it's like, we're past the whoa. I think what we're touching on it. I haven't found a way to really articulate it. And I'm sure I'm not the first one to do it. But it's like we talk a lot about betting and stuff like that. And they've been betting big on IP. And I think the lesson is you bet on people. You bet on Christopher Nolan.
Starting point is 01:14:26 You bet on Greta Gerwig. You bet on, you know, you bet on Margar Robbie. You bet on all these people they don't want to pay. And that's this argument with AI. There's nothing. Well, directors got to. Directors settled up pretty fast. and screwed over everybody else in the process.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Because now it's like, I think in that meeting they tried to do, it's like, well, we're going to base any agreement now off the DJ and it's like, anyway. But you, instead of betting on this IP, you bet on people in their vision. And that's the very thing they want to cut out because they want it to be like this production line. Something like McDonald's, like you just slap the meat on the bun. you put the ketchup and that's the formula. And it's like, but that's not what this industry is.
Starting point is 01:15:10 And so you need to put those bets on people. And maybe bet last month. Don't bet 300 million. They're doing business versus heart, right? And so like to them, it's also if they feel, this is something we've talked about recently, but it's where these AI programs are potentially going, where in 10, 15 years from now,
Starting point is 01:15:26 if you're like, hey, I want to watch Indiana Jones, but I want to watch one right after Last Crusade, and I want Harrison Ford to be 44 years old. that I want, you know, a young Meg Ryan to be in the movie with him and this, and it's going to create it for you. And it's not going to have the emotion. It's not going to have everything that you think, but it's going to be created in their minds, the studio's minds.
Starting point is 01:15:48 They're like, okay, well, that's the direction that's going. And if we get that and we lock all that stuff down and we get the rights down, we do this, we won't need these people. We don't need to do that because eventually people, and this is where the kind of the non-creative soulless kind of business aspect comes into it, where they're going to go, well, that's just how it's going to go. That's how the money is going to, that's how we're going to make our money. So pay them off for their likeness, pay them off for this too. And then the hell with them, because we're not going to need them in the same way that a lot of jobs in general have been phased
Starting point is 01:16:16 out by machines. And that's what people were misunderstanding what I was talking about yesterday, was they're like, oh, you're, you're accepting. I'm like, I'm saying, you don't have to necessarily accept it to realize it's just the way it's going to be. It's like because, as you said, I think really well before. it's a tool that people can misuse. And now, and because the human race is lazy. And they're going to start doing this stuff down the line. And the studio is capitalizing off of it.
Starting point is 01:16:47 And there's people who are unfortunately really smart and really, you know, business savvy, you're going to find a way to capitalize on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think hopefully these efforts, you know, in efforts across the board, I don't know that things need to be this way. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:17:05 I think there's a way, I'd like to think there's a way that we can make things more equitable for people. And again, it's not that necessarily the tools are going to go away. But just, you know, put, I think we're in a position now as a society where we can put people first in a way that we never could before.
Starting point is 01:17:23 And we're just not. And I don't know, and I don't know if it's just because our brains haven't evolved that way. We're still like, in some part of us, were still that, like, lizard brain. I got to get my thing. Like, I got to get it. Capitalism.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Yeah, you know what I mean? And I think, and you can't explain this to anybody, but like, I think if you could explain it to these CEOs, like, I do think if you bet on people, like, you know, you talked about this, you were like Indian Jones with Meg Ryan, da, da, da, da, yeah, maybe, you know, you'll get people to the point where that's, you know, what they invest in, but will you be making the same money as if you made a new Indian, like not whatever the next Indian Jones is going to be, you know what I mean to their to their argument it probably like we own all of it and all you have to do is type it in yeah but then you you know because you can already see the you know obviously there's a reason they don't want to share their streaming numbers right right I mean theater theater viewership numbers are are going down you you've put two movies in theater that feel original sure it's the biggest weekend of a I don't I mean I agree I just say it's it's just a scary technology in general but um and nonetheless I mean I'm gonna finish up here with this as you guys No, we have Boom Studios.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Boom Studios is a sponsor of the show, and we're so excited to tell you about their latest. All right, this week is a very exciting one for fans of Boom Studios with their first ever animated TV series. It's premiering today. The series is called Mech Cadets adapted from the iconic sci-fi adventure series. Metcadet by Greg Pack and Takishi Mayazawa. The show is set 50 years in the future in the aftermath of an attack on our planet by alien monsters.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Earth was saved by the arrival of giant RoboMex, bond for life with a human pilot. Ever since then, a school called Skycor trains new potential pilots who await the arrival of the new robos each year, hoping for a chance to be chosen. The story follows Stanford U, a janitor at SkyCore who desperately wants to become a robo pilot, and one day he finally gets his chance, but in a very unexpected way, and just in time, as the earth is once again threatened by alien invaders. The series stars Brandon Suu, the voice of Beast Boy, Ming Now Wen, Daniel Day Kim, Deborah Wilson,
Starting point is 01:19:30 many more. What a cast. It is available to stream worldwide on Netflix starting today, and you can find it by searching Met Cadets. But that's not all. A brand new comic series also titled Met Cadets is out now at your local comic book shop. It's not only a great sequel for fans of Metcadet
Starting point is 01:19:46 You, but it's also a perfect jumping off point for new readers. I absolutely love Boom Studios. I don't know if you've you read them a lot. So the way I kind of found out about Boom was well first through Koi
Starting point is 01:20:02 who did the berser panel and then a guy that I used to work with at Skybound started working at Boom and we started talking and I was like yeah you know I've been kind of dabbling in some of the stuff Booms doing and then they're sponsoring the show and the stuff that they have sent us and the
Starting point is 01:20:18 different genres that they dabble in right like from and as you mentioned before it was great with the different IPs that they have big IPs with the Teenage Muti Ninja Turtles Power Rangers but then stuff like this and the original things that they do and they don't just play in this is fun like mechadets is awesome they send us to
Starting point is 01:20:34 the comic that they had before too and excited for the series and I think it's going to be really great but it's also the other things that they do inside like the thriller genre and the horror genre they go from my five year old could read some of their stuff and then my and then my 12 year old and then I can read some
Starting point is 01:20:50 those I mean what do you like about boom in general yeah they've got a lot of great original comics which is cool because it used to be kind of back in the day you had Vertigo like if you wanted
Starting point is 01:21:02 outside of superiors stuff and then image for a long time and now there's been for lack of a no pun intended of boom
Starting point is 01:21:08 in original non-superhero comics and boom has had a lot of I want to say I want to say they have someone is killing
Starting point is 01:21:18 the children something is killing the children and one when they're dead is Al Ewing and that is
Starting point is 01:21:27 at boom Yeah, which is a great sci-fi, but something killing the children is fantastic. It's huge. We only find them when they're dead, which is Al Ewing, which is really great, a really great sci-fi comic. I got a lot of really good stuff, and I know Greg Pack is like a legend. Like, he's a legendary comic writer. So it's great to have, I mean, like, I always get excited when they're on every other week,
Starting point is 01:21:49 and they, when they send this stuff, so I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot that now the series is premiering. So once again, do you want to show your support for, for Boom? And as DJ was mentioning before, with certain companies that focus on people first, I think that Boom focuses on artists first. I think boom focuses on creativity first. And I think that's why they're thriving. And I think this show has thrived today, guys. I had a really good time. DJ is a pleasure to have you on, man.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Thanks for having me, man. Go ahead to finally do it. Yeah, for sure. Tell the kids where to find you. You can find me at DJ Talks Trash everywhere, wherever we're X, wherever we're going now. I don't know. I'm trying to be at DJ Talks. Eric, Talks Trash everywhere.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I do a show with Roxy called Only Stupid Answers. That's every podcast, wherever you listen to Podcasts. Only Stupid Answers. Christian's been on. We talked about the most recent Miss Impossible movie. Yeah, so check all that stuff out. Yeah, for sure. Check that.
Starting point is 01:22:39 And we're going to get him on once he watches that five parts so he can tell us why we're crazy for believing in it. I'm not seeing anybody's crazy. That's not what I'm saying. All I'm saying is I'm skeptical. That's all I'm saying. I think skepticism is healthy. I do. I just, and to end how we began.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Yeah. Something you said on the show. he's like, everything can be explained, and that's not the truth. Because the one thing that I think this director, James Fox said that I thought, I've just been quoting, because he was on this show, and they said to him,
Starting point is 01:23:07 essentially what you did, right? And they said, like, yeah, but a lot of these things have just been debunked. He's like, of course they have. Because think about how many people afterward, after, I saw something, I saw something, it's like, it's the 12% that nobody knows what the hell it is. He's like, let's go after that. What is that? That to me
Starting point is 01:23:23 is the exciting thing. We'll talk about that more, on Tuesday. Eventually, we'll get DJ on to talk about it as well. Because I do. Like I said, I think it's important to have someone on who is skeptical about it. And someone who's able to have an intelligent conversation as well, too. And DJ is certainly that person. So check out DJ and check out this show here, too. If you're brand new to the show and you've never been here before, please go ahead and subscribe. And I do have one question that came in from yesterday's show.
Starting point is 01:23:50 And let me get to that. All right, we got two that came in yesterday. The first one is from Andrew Smith. Website member, Andrew Smith. Hey, Christian, my wife and I were at SummerSlam this past weekend and had an absolute blast. My question comes from a conversation we had comparing the difference between Seth Rollins and MJF as heels. Do you have a preference on how a heel is portrayed? So I do, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I think it just depends on the storyline for me. I'm always more like really old school when it comes to it. Iron Sheik, Macho Man Savage in his heyday, you know, I liked when they tried to sell it as if, and Roddy, Roddy Piper, who I had the pleasure of doing a show with back in the day. And I like the premise that you believed that these were their real personalities. And that's what MGF does, right? And he's kind of, it's hard. And I was a little bit more judgmental on him because when he first started, because of the way he was off camera all the time and always keeping up K-Fabe.
Starting point is 01:24:52 I actually think I go back on it. And I like how he does it. It's just because I think now they don't, when you hear so many different wrestlers out there and how they're on, they're on camera now and they're talking, like, it's a show, the same way you would see, like,
Starting point is 01:25:09 Anne Hathaway talking about a movie and a character. She's not playing the character inside of it. That's the way a lot of these wrestlers are now. And I don't know. I don't think you really can ever go back, but I miss it, if that makes sense. So I just, I miss the days where, you can play it the way that MJF does.
Starting point is 01:25:24 He's able to, I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. He's the best there is right now as far as he'll, I think a lot of people would say. So, yeah, maybe they should go back to it. I don't know. All right, next one. Party at the Fart Tower. That's an old one. I like that.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Christian, any chance of doing a watch-along to the Rebel Season 2 finale before Assoca comes out? I think it's the best two episodes of that show, and I'd love to know all your thoughts. Also, I missed Koy at Fan Expo, Boston every time I walked by his boot. I think I got cut off. That was all I got. So that's all it came through. As far as the Rewatch, I don't think I'll be watching it. I don't think I have enough time to do it. Maybe a few episodes here and there, but I won't be doing actual watch along to it.
Starting point is 01:26:07 I don't think so. But I'll definitely have reference to it on this show. Whatever ones that I watch, or if I do on the website, I do what I'm watching right now. So if it turns out that I do watch a couple of those episodes, it's been in my head to do. So it's possible, but I don't want to make it like an announcement. far as missing koi yeah he look the good news is that guy's everywhere so you'll be able to you'll be able to catch them but i'm sure the boston one was special but all right thank you very much guys for everybody who is uh who's done that uh to put in the question and once again if you want to
Starting point is 01:26:36 put in that question there streamups dot com slash the schmodown drop a question and then i'll answer it on the show and this next one if you got drop one in today or tomorrow or sunday then i'll answer it on monday all right for myself and for dj wildridge we'll see you you on the flip side. Thank you. Bye.

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