The Kristian Harloff Show - DEADPOOL AND WOLVERINE SPOILER REVIEW

Episode Date: July 28, 2024

Deadpool and Wolverine is crushing at the box office and it is the latest MCU film. There were tons of surprises in the film. Let's have a full SPOILEr talk. Kristian Harloff dives into the cameos, end credits, what comes next. #marvel #mcu #deadpoolandwolverine #deadpool3 #wolverine

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and they even address it as much in this movie. Again, obviously, spoilers galore here. So if you're clicking on this and you haven't seen it, well, that's your own fault. But yeah, this has been, Loki season two, I think it was the best telling of the multiverse after really being set up well in no way home,

and then it's just been kind of all over the place since. It's been, as Deadpool says, to Wolverine, you're catching it on a down note or whatever the particular, an off period, whatever it was, he says to him, and there's a lot of that stuff. So, by the way, if you're brand into the channel, you've never been here before,

I do a lot of the spoiler reviews, out of the theater reactions, full podcast interviews. So subscribe to the channel if you haven't done that already. Okay. So this movie starts out and it lets you know right away when Deadpool's at Logan's grave from the movie Logan. And even that scene alone, everyone's like, oh, what are they going to do to Mangold's Logan who has done so perfectly? they screw around and basically tell you this is exactly what we said was going to happen. It's the multiverse.

That Logan, that version, he's dead. He did die. Didn't tainted at all. And then just pure chaos ensues as the TVA comes in and Deadpool just kills all of them. Which I felt bad for them because, yes, they're working for paradox, but they just have a job to do.

And he didn't even cripple him. He just killed them all. and he did it with Wolverines Adamantium skull and everything else so that particular scene and it was in typical Deadpool fashion but I did say I won't lie that when I was watching a few times and he's doing the dances to I believe it was in sync or whatever

and or Backstreet Boys interchangeable and they were when he's when he's doing the the dance to them I'm like okay this could be one of those movies that If it gets carried away with just the humor and just the jokes, it could lose itself. And sometimes it did. Sometimes it did. But it also showed what he wanted to do, Deadpool, that is.

And by jumping back and going into time, we see they had cables, watch them, what actually, as he takes us back and shows you where he had his interview with the Avengers and sitting there with Happy Hogan on a different multiverse and different Earth or whatever. And a funny scene with John Favreau where it's like, yeah, I just don't think this is for you yet, but we'll keep an eye on you. And that set him down a path where he's like, they didn't want me, I'm going to give up, and I'm just going to put on my bad wig, work for a car company, and we'll see what happens. But he can't help himself. He's got his horrendous mouth, and he's in the back cutting jokes with that one particular family, and curse galores.

And I was, again, laughing throughout the entire beginning of it. And I said, okay, what's the story here? because are we just going to do jokes? And we get him to that party, and he's with the family, with his, well, Vanessa. And we find out that him and Vanessa have broken up and he kind of lost who he was. And so, but they're still hanging out. And there's a funny thing with that one, Dave, there's a lot of the references to the extras and Disney. And I will say that I was, even though I saw it and they kind of set you up,

with the cocaine joke, which they replayed in the beginning here, I was surprised with how many shots they took at Disney and even the shots they took at Warner Brothers. And one of my favorite scenes, because if you've been watching this show long enough, you've seen that I've been calling and hoping that Henry Cavill would play Dr. Doom. Now, this cameo pretty much cements that he will not play Dr. Doom.

And when he was showing up to Marvel events, This was probably the beginning of the courting to say, hey, what can we do together? How about this? How about a, would you want to play Wolverine in this one particular scene? How would you feel about that? Because when Deadpool is recruited by paradox, and that's the guy from Succession,

I thought he was okay. I thought the character was fine. I thought that, I don't know if it was him or the, what he was given. Some of his jokes kind of missed. But the character served the purpose of, okay Deadpool I know you have

you want to be loved you want a purpose you want to be part of something well I'm going to give you a chance to be part of something we're going to erase your universe and what you can do is you can be part of something else and be something big so help us do that

and instead he goes and he because which was a funny moment when he's like oh I was the savior when I left that's what that's messed everything up He's like, no, you? You're not, not, not, wasn't you. It was Logan.

When Logan died, that messed everything up. And he goes and goes to find all the different Wolverines. And when he does that, when he's looking after that, we got to the place where he killed all the TVA people. Then he goes search for all these different Wolverines. And I didn't really know what to expect. And they showed it. And from talking with Corey, there's a lot of things they pulled directly from the comics. and this did play like a lot of homages to certain things I remember seen as a kid and even the

the from what yeah when I spoke to coy about it too you on the when Wolverine's on the cross is apparently from like a very iconic comic book and they keep continuously doing that through the ones that he's jumping back and forth to when you get finally get little tiny Wolverine you get um the there's one like there there are there are a few other ones but the one the patch one that he's basically just, I was thinking, why isn't he going after all of these in particular? There's so many of them. But then he, well, and then Henry Cavill one.

The Henry Cavill thing, when they took the shot at Warner Bros. Going those douchebags down the street. And I thought that was funny. And I thought that worked. I was concerned that I'm like, all right, well, this is what this is going to be then. It's a cameo fest all day long. And I saw some criticisms of that already. And I don't think that they just,

but this particular thing when they did the cameo with Henry Cavill, They were looking for that cheap pop, and they got it, and it worked. But the other cameos, which we'll talk about, I thought, worked for the story in general. From Chris Evans, Wesley Snipes, Jennifer Garner, I really wish that they would have saved Daphne. And I know that I don't buy the excuse of, they interviewed Kevin Feige. well she really wanted to go to the premiere. So in order to go to the premiere, it would have gotten spoiled that she was in it.

So we did it this way. Why? Let people speculate. And she doesn't answer on the red carpet. Why are you going to ruin it for us? Because she wants to go to the premiere. It's great that she wants to go to the premiere. But that's why?

Well, we're going to spoil it for everybody because she wants to go to the premiere. That was a terrible, terrible excuse for it. Because I wish we didn't see her at all. and she showed up to the, well, she was at the screening. Her and Hugh Jackman are close. They shot a movie together. You could have lied about that.

Anyway, but I did think that all of their cameos worked well, Shannon Tatum, obviously, which we'll get into, and then Chris Evans. I thought all their cameos were relevant to the story. And when they have the relationship, you first meet Wolverine, by the way, when he's sitting in the bar and you see that scene that they show in the trailer, there was a good backstory to why Wolverine, this Wolverine, is miserable. This one had this whole thing with the X-Men that we find out later on that he was out drinking one night and he came back and they were all dead. And it's just haunted him.

And then he went crazy and he started killing everybody. And so everybody hates him. And when you know that history and you go back, you watch that scene again if you watch it in the trailer. There was, the bartender basically goes, we don't watch you in there get the hell out of here. He's like, just give me my drink and I'll be on my way. And that's when Deadpool shows up, recruits him, brings them back to the TVA and they say, this guy, this is quite possibly the worst Wolverine that you could have found. You think that this guy, you're going to replace the Wolverine in this universe?

That's what's going to help? This guy sucks. This is the worst one you could have picked. And then Wolverine and Deadpool go on their adventure or basically get pruned and get put right into that moment of the Fox universe. and we see the big logo in the back and there is that thing and I won't, I'm not going to lie when it comes down to sometimes break in the wall for me

especially happen to me when in She-Hulk I hated that scene Deadpool's been doing it in the comics forever and he's been doing it in and I know She-Hulk was too but Deadpool's been doing it and I thought they did it clever a bunch of different ways I was like am I going to be totally sucked out of the movie? The only time I was kind of sucked out of it

a few times was when Deadpool, what was it called? Nice Pool. The Nice Pool element, which I think wasn't as funny as other people thought it might have been. Dog Pool is another one that, is that what the name? I think it was a dogpool.

But he was, he worked for me. I liked that whole thing and how obsessed Deadpool was with him. The, as we, I'm jumping around from things to things that I think about him, but I do wonder why the multiple

deadpoles were necessary. I understand why Jennifer Garner, Wesley Snipes, Channing Tatum, Chris Evans, understand why all of those are relevant. I don't understand why we had to have that whole big Deadpool battle scene, minus the fact to say that we had it,

when what does that really do for this story? That's what I will say. But as we get to the Fox Universe side of it, and then this is, where we get that first big fight between the two of them. And when that fight happens, Ryan Reynolds calls it. He looks in the screen, just get ready nerds or what if you say, it's like, this is what you've been waiting for. And they have a full on battle between the two of them. Wolverine, Deadpool, scrapping it out, having an, and I feel like, you guys can correct me

if I'm wrong. I feel like 10 or 15 years ago, Machinima did like a video of Deadpool and Wolverine fighting somewhere. I think that was right. I don't know. But I do remember everyone just being so excited to finally see these two regenerating mutants fighting each other and going after each other, and it didn't disappoint. The chemistry between Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman works the whole entire time, especially during the fight, and Hugh Jackman is getting shot from the sides with Ryan Reynolds, just Deadpool laying on him. And this is what I loved about Deadpool. He's a fan of Wolverine. He's a fan of him and says this much. But it's like, okay, you want to scrap? Let's do it. And they do it and they have that fight and then finally they wind up going on an adventure in this kind of

post-apocalyptic world and these mutants are coming in we see pyro we see everybody else and and that's when we also see Chris Evans for the first time and they even I feel like I got to see the movie again but I feel like when he first shows up there's like a little hint of the Captain America theme song maybe I feel like there was that they were teasing you that it was and and I said to myself as I'm watching them like he looks skinnier He doesn't look like Cap. And then they tease it like, oh, there he is. That's Captain America.

Say it. Say the words. And he says Flame on. He jumps up. He's like, oh, that makes a lot of sense that they would be doing that because this whole entire movie is like a love letter to the Fox universe and let's start it out there. Here's all the villains. Here's Pyro.

And it makes all the sense in the world that Pyro would be able to suck the flame out Johnny Storm. He does. Deadpool sells him out. which is a hilarious moment in that whole thing when Nova shows up. And Nova, I think the performance of the actor playing Nova, I thought they were great. But overall, I think that there was nothing to the character, really.

There's nothing really to the character. Thought that by the time we get to the end, it was just kind of generic. And there was more to it when Nova's sticking her hands in the middle of the heads and the nose is coming out. There was kind of creepy images. And it was a bit intimidating for sure. But it just kind of petered off a tad bit. The main reason is the two of them, Wolverine and Deadpool, kind of working together, being able to get past their own crap. That's really what the essence of the movie was, right?

So there are the moments and there's that moment where, well, not only do you see. Johnny get his skin ripped off, but even before that, when Paul Rudd's head is up there and Deadpool even says as much, he finally aged. That's the ongoing joke. Sam Levine and I,

we joke about it all the time. Paul Rudd never ages. Everybody talks about it. But in this, he's a big skeleton, that's where the hideout is, and there's more stuff to go down. They learn more about all these different things that have happened.

They're in the void. They see the thing from Loki. And I think that they did that well, where if you never saw Loki, I took a friend of mine to see this movie who had seen Deadpool 1, Deadpool 2, it hasn't seen any Marvel stuff since Infinity War or something, and was not lost by it.

I mean, I'm sure a lot of stuff went over his head, but not stuff where it took him out of the movie, because there were stuff that happened in Loki. He didn't know what the TVA was. He didn't know any of this stuff, but it didn't hurt the experience for him. But they go on the run, they wind up flying out of there, and this is when they find nice pool,

they get the car, you know, driving through, they get into another battle, and this is when Daphne Keene finds them, brings them back. And I feel, I know here is, and I'm so curious, please comment on this, because I will be reading all the comments, and I want to see what people say about this, because this is very similar to that the grievance that I had with announcing Daphne Keene in the trailer, because she wanted to go to the premiere. Were you guys paying attention? Did you see it first?

You see it on Thursday? because if you didn't see it on Thursday, were you spoiled by the reveal that Chris Evans, Wesley Snipes, Jennifer Garner all came out on stage at Comic-Con? Now, I didn't read enough into it. I'll probably know the information after I post this.

Did they screen the movie first for people and then bring them out? Or did they bring them out first? And I hope it was that they screened the movie first and then brought them out. But I saw stuff in E. emails of had I not seen Deadpool three a couple days before and I got that email that Chris Evans and Wesley Snipes and Jennifer Garner showed up I'd be pissed I'd be pissed off because I was genuinely

surprised I was when when Blade showed up that was the most surprised I was because Channing Tatum and Jennifer Garner there was kind of rumblings about it that was going to happen and and and not to the not to the extent of how much they actually had to do it thought we'd kind of like a small scene, but it wasn't. They had a good role to play. But Blade was rumored to be in it, but they said it would probably be sticky fingers because Wesley Snipes hated Ryan Reynolds.

And I love the Ryan Reynolds says as much in the movie. I think that Blade says something along the lines to him of like, I hate you. And he's like, you always did. And were something along those lines. And then that whole thing where Wolverine is drinking in the background and Channing Tatum comes in. Channing Tatum comes in.

Channing Taney, Taney was hilarious in this. His accent was so bad, it was purposely on bad, so bad. And all these rumors of things of the $200 million gamut movie that was going to happen, that never happened, and then just continuously just breaking balls about that and showing that he actually could fight, but he's kind of dopey.

He's sad because his movie never happened. And then there was that great line where they're talking about all the different people that went in there when they were worried about what happened to Johnny. And he's just kind of, painting around it and then they find out all these different people that went in and they're like that person went in yeah he died he died he died and oh dare the daredevil died too and Jennifer garners like yeah that's all right so next shot at ben afflick and it was funny i'm sure he laughed about it too

it was hilarious and they um they went through all of that and then they did play into where we'll get into the at the very end i don't we can just cover it now the very end of the movie the post-credit scene there was a rumor that the post-credit scene was like this game-jointed changing thing. Well, it wasn't. It was relevant to the film because it's the whole thing about showing the footage of Johnny actually saying what Deadpool said he did when we all thought, oh, he's lying. He never said any of that stuff. And we find out that he did. So that all played into what was going on in that room. And then they finally go all together

and they talk about the Punisher. And he's like, well, this is the this is the Punisher's weapon. Which one? There was like five of them. That continues thread of, you know, there's so many of these different things. What are he talking about? Like, what what it is. And they finally go to the battle and they have this huge fight. And Pyrro kind of turns on Nova. We find that you can almost kill Nova, almost got almost taking her out. And instead, they wind up saving her so they can get back to the regular world there and help out. But that's what pisses her off. And she realizes that the TVA duped her. And honestly, from there on, you have that Big battle with all the Deadpool.

I will say, the battle itself was a lot of fun. The stuff that I laughed, even though Nice Pool was like okay for me, the stuff where we find out he can't regenerate and Deadpool's still holding him up and letting him be shot to shit. It was funny. It was really funny. It just that, out of all the stuff, that was the one. I'm like, what does this really do except that what's his face shows up at the end? Rob, and he's Delaney, is right?

and he shows up and they're like, oh, we all have one of him. We love it. And it was a little convenient. But the core of the story, as we also saw was stuff that happened with Nova when she was digging around and Logan's brain was,

Hugh Jackman always brings the heart to this stuff. And even though I've seen Wolverine go through all this peril, through all the years back from like 2000 until now, 24 years he's been playing this character. I see all of that time, he still brings, it because when that story is like, oh yeah, all right, he is now tortured because the X-Men

in his world were all killed and he didn't do anything about it and it still, it weighs on him. And I've seen him, I've seen other things that where he's been, things have weighed on him, but it's still carried weight, still carried weight. And then going back to one, one of the really great things with that Deadpool scene when they're fighting, all fighting all the different Deadpools, is then you get a chance to see Logan in the in the in the outfit you get to see him in the in the outfit with the once he finally puts the outfit on he's and he's afterwards and he go into the subway thing and he's got the the eyes and it's uh it was it was it was creepy looking and it worked it worked and then the

ultimately I was curious of how they were going to play at the end I thought that they would kill off Logan again because he'd already been done and maybe this was the final farewell to Hugh Jackman but they didn't do that and instead Deadpool says I'm going to sacrifice myself. And he goes into the subway. They both wind up doing it together. They're holding hands. They're doing it.

Nova's defeated fairly easily. And then they survive and he sticks around to the universe. And that's pretty much the summary of the entire movie. And what you do and what you see, the reason why you go to this movie is people are going to say, is it a fun movie? It is. Is it a great explain? of the way that the multiverse works.

I mean, not really. It's supposed to be like this kind of game-changing thing. I don't think it's game-changing. I think that you can use a lot of things that happen in here. I think that the ultimate goal was to say, all right, this is, people are going to think that we're going to crap all over what came before us, but we're going to do the exact opposite.

Even the good and the bad, where they have the Green Day song at the very end. They're showing all, I mean, they show movies behind-the-scenes stuff from movies that just stink to high heaven. But they didn't, it wasn't about that. about showing the journey the whole way through, and it was also about showing the journey of Deadpool and Wolverine. They both, as where Deadpool wants to be accepted, he wants to have a purpose.

He has his purpose inside of this thing and does exactly what he's supposed to do. Wolverine having his purpose. Everybody having their purpose. I'm glad that they didn't kill off Blade. I'm glad they didn't kill off Electra and Gambit, and I'm glad they didn't kill off Daphne Keen. I'm glad they didn't kill them off because I thought that they didn't kill off. that they could easily went the route of what happened in Dr. Strange 2. But that didn't happen. And I was happy to see that because who knows what could happen in the future with more with Secret Wars coming out.

And that scene that people were asking about with Thor, when he sees himself with Thor, I think that's Secret Wars. I think that's going to be a scene from that because when he says, what's that from? And then paradox is like, no, no, no, no, don't worry about that right now. I kind of knew that wasn't going to pan out in this movie. I don't know why I knew that.

but I just felt like it. And then because I had a few people say, hey, what's, what, they didn't even have the pay off. I think it's going to pay off in, in the Avengers. I think that's what's going to happen in general.

But are they going to do a Deadpool for, I don't know. Should they? I don't know. It's there, I've seen fair criticisms to the movie. I've seen fair criticisms where it's like, well,

it's just, it is an overall joke fest. I think it is more jokey than the others, and it's bigger than the others, right? It's like that argument that's being said right now with spy, man where spider man four is the rumor is that fagie wants a more grounded spider man and then

sony wants the big multiverse big movie um deadpool one was way more grounded dead bull three was the big multiverse grand movie it was more the epic kind of team up action buddy action cameo comedy that's what it was now spider man's already had those types of movies so Deadpool having one of those in those three I don't think that Deadpool if it continues on should continue in the big grand faction I think you should go back to what they did one one big movie like this out of the three it works and I thought it worked and I think you sign up for Deadpool and Wolverine hence the name and you get that it's what it is it's really what the movie is more so than

expectations could get what you wanted to see with the multiverse and how it's going to change the Marvel Cinematic Universe overall could hurt your viewing of it if that's the only reason you're going into it. Because I certainly was thinking that they would do more than they did, but it didn't hurt my viewing because it wasn't the only thing I was thinking. I was like, okay, I want to go and want to laugh. I laughed. I want to go and I want to see a bloody action rated our movie. I saw a bloody rated our action movie. I want to see good chemistry between Jackman and Reynolds. Saw that. I want to see good cameos.

I want to see, you know, I saw what I wanted to see. It was, to me, it was advertised. What it was advertised in the trailers is what I got. They showed you the humor. You got the humor. They showed you the heart. You got the heart. So this movie worked for me.

I did see some valid criticisms of it and even the non-spoiler stuff, but I ask you guys, what do you think? What do you think of this movie? Put your comments in there. I want to hear all the spoiler thoughts and things that really worked,

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