The Kristian Harloff Show - Deadpool and Wolverine tickets go on sale. Will it break records?!

Episode Date: May 20, 2024

LIVE show from NY. The MCU continues on with Deadpool and Wolverine and tickets are on sale now! How will the movie fare? On this live show with Kristian and John Rocha we discuss the latest news from the big wigs over at Sony and Universal who believe that movie ticket prices are too high and are calling for a decrease. Good idea? The box office for Apes continues to go up globally. How will Furiosa fair next week? Fast and Furious goes smaller? This and more on today's IVE show with Kristian and John Rocha

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Is it going to break records? And I think that we'll find a couple of different things out. We'll find out exactly how big of a weekend it's going to have, you know, in the general area. And we'll find out exactly where John Rook is going to take me to the steak dinner. I want to clear 750,000 like that. So either way, we have that to talk about. Speaking of movie theaters and ticket prices and all, Sony and Universal, two of the bigwigs over there said,

look, one of the big problems right now, we're listening. The ticket prices are too damn high. You've got to bring them down, man. If they're saying it, will it happen? Will they get other people on board? And are they right? I'll get into that. Box office is still moving.

Apes still moving. And Apes now has a bigger hall overall when it comes to international. So we'll discuss that. Switching away from the world of movies for a second, Tyson Fury lost. And what was so interesting, and there's a story I want to talk to Roca about, is that this is the heavyweight champion in the world. And he was the undisputed champ. No one had ever beaten him before. And I was in a bar and in New York, and people were not talking about that. You know what they were talking about? Mike Tyson and Jake Paul.

Like, it just shows you more so of how boxing just needs a complete fix as far as how it's run. Anyway, so, and obviously we're going to be taking questions from you guys. So make sure, as always, you throw your questions in there and we're going to get into it today. It's myself, it's John Roka here today on The Big Thing. Let's do it. How's it going, everybody? Welcome back to The Big Thing. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Everywhere Podcasts,

are found on this live edition of The Big Thing. Joining me as always this Monday. Well, he wasn't here last Monday, so not as always. It's a lie. John Roker. How are you doing? How's it by? How's it going?

Come on. I was at the pizza. Unbelievable. It's 10 pounds being here for four days. It's so good. I went to a few different places. And Brett and I stopped off at this one place that was by the train station. Oh, nice.

And we do the regular cheese slice, but then we tried this barata slice. It got a little balsamic on it. Dude, it was like, Brett and I looked at each other like, what did we just discuss it? It was incredible. Really good. I've heard the new pizza has like Ziti on top of it. Like you can get pizza with Ziti on top and it baked into the pizza. And I'm like, this is madness.

I had a chicken parmesan slice the other day, man. Oh, I'm telling you. It's like, it's, I don't know if I'll make it back. I don't know if I'll make it back to L.A. But yeah, we get the studio going. I mean, look, I mean, this camera, look at this camera. I know, you look great. Love the purple lighting.

Shout out to Brett. Good to see you, Brett. Love you. Yeah, Brett's been working really hard on this, man. So we're, and we're taking suggestions and stuff too. And I got to give a, I mean, a big shout out. There were so many people that contributed to that Amazon list. And we almost, we, I've always put it in the top there.

And people have been sending stuff and set somebody yesterday, say, well, you're maybe I'll get you those chairs. And they looked at this stuff. And we're building on it. And one of the things that we're going to, to do is and we'll take suggestions from the audience also is that if there's things that you you know put your suggestions in there do you want to see stuff hung out there do you like the lighting as it is like put your put your suggestions in there and i'm sure brett's head won't blow off his body

when when reading these comments poor bastard the guy comes in here and works and he's working just effortlessly is he's just he's kicking he's he's kicking ass right no surprise and and so he hangs up all these things and he gets i said i just need to get into working capacity for uh whenever the other day was because i hadn't had any shows up and i needed to put something up and he's like i can get you i can get you work so he got these bricks up just so it's get a shot people like it looks like a prison i missed the old studio i just started screaming at the that the television as it was off i know people never satisfied man it's not good it means they care it means there's so many people here who are excited that you've made the move and they're looking forward and see the comments they're all like

excited that you've made it to this point and that everything's looking getting into shape so yeah that's what i was going to ask you because you're looking at the comments and here's the problem um i have right maybe it's not a problem maybe it's maybe it's a happy accident but i have um a smaller screen right now because my a lot of my other stuff is still in l.a and we're we're moving it right and so i have this little screen that i can't really read the comments unless i have you know, the old man bifocals on. So what are you seeing as far as the, they're saying about the lighting and stuff?

Oh, yeah. Everyone's pretty positive. They want to get your stuff. Yeah, everyone likes the bricks for the most part, commenting on the pizza. All those things. I see a lot of super chats coming in. Again, that's supporting the show. And it's also going to be able to,

at the end of the show, John and I will do. This is what we always do on this show, is that we go over all the main topics. And by the time we get through the last one, then we start going over, all your questions. So throw them in there. I mean, it literally can be about anything. You want to talk about the New York move. You want to talk about

some of the sports from WWE, whatever, whatever it might be. The New Yorker is choking. Go ahead. Bring it up. Bring it up. I cannot, as much as I want to be mad at you for saying that. Let's be fair also. The nuggets, too. The nuggets choked too. Played by injuries too.

Sure. And come on. Come on. It's the Pacers, man. Come on. The Pacers were shooting out of control. Yeah, 67%. How do you combat that? I was watching in my head. It was, it was rough. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But that's not what we're talking about here today. Yeah. Who are you? What basketball team are you? Oh, man, we suck. We're the Wizards, man. I've been to Wizards fan because I'm from D.C. So for me, the Wizards were the bullet slash wizards is the team.

But I mean, I don't know how you wind up like in the Yankees when you should be a. If we had no baseball growing up in the 70s and 80s, I had no baseball in D.C. So to me, I fell in love through Reggie Jackson. That's like maybe the first baseball game I watched was Reggie. So that's my boy. Were you about 20 back then? Yeah, 20. No, actually, I think I was, yeah, 40, 45, something like that.

It makes sense. He and my beard. Yeah, you should. Let's get into these topics, man, because we got a bunch of good ones. Sounds good, man. It's first one. Shout out to the Galaxy Geeks are in here. Respect.

Very much so. Okay, so we get these tickets. they're on sale. Yeah. This is Deadpool and Wolverine from Dark Horizons over here. Marvel Studios also premiered a new 60-second spot for its upcoming Deadpool and Wolverine ahead of the film's July 26 release. The TV announced the launch of ticket pre-sales for the movie.

Well, much of the clip is a cut-down version of the second trailer. There are some new shots, some extended scenes, and a big new scene in the last few seconds. The film ties back to the TVA from Loki, a bureaucratic organization that exists outside of time and space and monitors the timeline. here they pull Wade Wilson from his quiet life and set him up on a mission with Wolverine that will change the history of the MCU. Okay, so I didn't watch the clip because I've seen enough. I already know.

Maybe if there's like a big trailer, sure, maybe I'll do your reaction to it. But the TV spots I try to avoid for the most part. First things first, you did watch the little spot, right? Yeah, this morning. It was like 50 seconds, 55 seconds promoting the tickets coming out. A lot of clips from the previous trailer. and I think the teaser trailer but then at the end there's a little

joke about knives in the ass. So that's about a 10 seconds of the last 10 seconds of the spot. So it's not a lot of new footage just 10 seconds of new footage but it's funny stuff so you know what you're getting. Okay, so I got 20 tickets today. So

I think you're screwed. It's not going to cross a billion. The fact that I can get tickets that easily. Speaking of that, because you just brought that up. what you need just the case um so you just brought that up so i want to make sure that you know because again i can just prove this for the video again because i want to make sure that you remember what what do you think our bet is the bet you said it's got across a billion dollars you said it was it was going to make a billion dollars and i said it won't make a million dollars right that was not the bet

though but the bet it was what it was i said it's going to make a billion dollars you said no yeah and then i said it and then we what we agreed on was 750 so it missed a 750 and and and like i you can say no all day long and someone will just send you the video and you can hear you yeah tell me the video guys i've sent it to you four times already but you also i'll send it's changing it if you think you're ai maybe you're changing it um but that's about it so people will tell you in the comments nonetheless this movie is going to do very very well yeah very very well and it's i'm just curious now like after this first day of tickets like what's that going to mean overall like are we going to

going to look at it and go, well, you know, if you compare it to No Way Home, or if you compare it to Avatar and you compare it to these movies that just did gangbusters, like, where's it going to be? Like, jokes aside, where do you think this movie is going to land as far as, you know, when you're, when you're tacking up the numbers and the excitement behind it? It's going to be curious because I think you've got to see the reviews, man, to be honest with you, because right now, all we've seen is footage, right? So there have been no screenings for this thing. And so right now in the bubble, it feels like this movie's going to make like $2 billion, right?

It has that vibe. But I don't know what the Marvel hangover, how long this thing is going to last. Look, X-Men 97 is something completely different because that's animated and yes, the pop culture. Zykeyes got behind it and what have you, but now it's gone. So this is live action.

This is a movie. Is the drawing power strong enough? And will people go see this thing? because if the reviews aren't 100% over the moon going crazy, you know. And look, there was a lot of great reviews for the fall guy. Dead fell apart. If got a lot, got some good reviews, didn't do well at the box office. We're going to see, but apes did well.

So we're going to see how that plays out. Furiosa is going to be curious as well. But I think it's going to all depend on how the first reviews come out. And if they come out super positive, way over the top. and from people that you trust, I think that lets us know this is going to be a pretty good film and people are going to go back and watch it.

But if the reviews are slightly mixed or you can read between the lines of some of those reviews where they're not 100% positive about it, then we got ourselves some trouble. I think that's accurate when it comes to repeat business and overall. Which is what leads to.

I agree, but I also think that it is the pre-ticket sales and the opening weekend is going to be on hype alone and true 100% because people are going to be there will be no reviews for it people just want to see it because and then if it's that good that maybe people are on the fence about it like i don't know about marvel but then everybody's raving about it then you're 100% right then the people will be like well the reviews look at what it did opening weekend plus the fact the reviews are out of control yeah um and that adds to it but i think that i'm so curious after today to see like okay

because that'll be another story that i'm sure we'll both cover you'll cover on your channel for a mind and and it's we'll kind of analyze it and say well look what that did and we will like as I said we're going to compare it to these different things um I think one and a half is the is right now looking at it one and a half feels like the possibility the top end of possibility one and a half billion

because people want to love Marvel again man they want to yeah they're bitched about it complaining about it but majority of the fans I would say 90 to 95% of the fans are angry about Marvel because they really enjoyed the lead-up to end game and everything that happened there. And they want to go back to that time. They want to recapture that magic. And that's where a lot of the anger stems from, is this disappointment, is this frustration.

And look, you know, I've been doing some changing on my own opinions on things as I watch and read more people's points of views on it. I think I've been a little bit unfair and going after some people who are upset at Marvel for certain reasons. I think I've been too easily dismissing some people's legit. legitimate points of views on some of the decisions they've made casting wise, production wise, writing wise, directing wise. I give me props for that because it doesn't,

because there's a lot of people that that won't ever change their stance on it and just on both sides of the aisle, right? They fold their arms and won't look at it. So I give you props for saying that. I spent the weekend, just like reading stuff, watching this stuff and be like, okay, I don't agree with a lot of this, but there is some kernel of truth within the other stuff that you're like, okay, I get this. So I think people want to fall back in love with Marvel.

They want to feel happy about Marvel again. So this brings it back. And it's a good, great movie. People are going to come in droves to see it and feel that magic again and that hope again with Marvel. Because, man, so much of the world nowadays, dude, is full of hopelessness that you want to go someplace where you feel that you're in good hands and you feel hopeful and entertained. So I think there's a real strong possibility here. Yeah, I do too. I think it's like I said the hype behind this one is just you can feel it you can feel people talking about it and people will

showing up to the theater but that kind of throws us to our next topic and I was originally I was going to I was going to lead with this one but then I found out that the tickets were on sale for that one and Ed harold put that in there and said that's actually a good one to to talk about and I'm glad that we did yeah the other thing was this stuff about the movie theaters right and you talk about props for saying, hey, look, we've got to look at things and analyze it, not just stick by our ways. And that's, you think, is going on with Sony and Universal, because these are the two chiefs that had these conversations about cinema right now and cinema's future. So the cinema's back baby is a common statement heard on social media these days when a film breaks through and theatrical release and becomes a hit.

But the cold fact is the overall health of cinemas, it's not great, barring multiple unforeseen successes this year will mark the first of the post-pandemic era to see a global box office revenue. For the year to date, ticket sales are already down by 20% compared to last year domestically with the global sales on an even sharper decline. Combination of change viewing habits and strike impacted slates has resulted in three summer weekends in which the combined domestic box office of all the films and cinemas is under 100 million, and no single film has debuted so far this year, which has reached that mark on opening weekend. Compare that to that to this. Compare that to this. this time last year when three films had already opened to over 100 million each, and only one weekend in May saw a combined box office below $118 million.

So how does Hollywood get more people back into the cinema? According to Sony Motion Picture Group Tom Rothman, the quickest and easiest solution would be the most effective. Lower the ticket prices. This is what he says to deadline. We need the ticket prices to come down. I think it's not healthy. I understand why it happened, and that exhibition went through a terrible near-death experience with COVID. I get the instinct to raise the prices.

But I think overall, if you look for an example on how every Tuesday in America, every single Tuesday, is the biggest day of the week. Why? Because of the half-priced tickets. It's fundamental consumer economics. Just lower the prices and you will sell more. You'll make it up in volume and concessions. He adds, he wishes that exhibition would try out more pricing experiments,

namely those that take the prices down. It's especially impactful on younger and family audiences who disposable income is tight with the cost of living crisis. I think that we would endear ourselves much more, particularly to that family audience if the price is moderated some. Exhibition will argue, fair enough, movie going is still great value. It's still a fraction of the cost of a Broadway show or a football game. But for a lot of people bringing a family of four or six to the movies, that can be expensive undertaking. He also says the production side of the industry needs to get to its budgetary house in order.

Streamers who don't have an individual film profit-based model, inflated the cost of making films and all the studios who do have such a model. Sucumb to varying degrees. Degrees. Mega negatives become giga-negatives and budgets are up across the board. This is not just bad for studios. It's bad for the audience. High negative cost decrease creative risk-taking,

which decreases the ability to push for the kind of originality I spoke of before. Instead, it leads to repeating the tried and true and the tyranny of IP. And he's not the only studio head that is weighing on in a, on this NBC's group chairman and chief content officer Donna Langley tells variety that the answer isn't cheap in prices, but a larger amount of movies. We don't really think we're going to recapture pre-pandemic levels. There's just less volume going through the marketplace at the moment. If there's not too many things to see, you lose the habit. We need volume to come back. We need more movies and great movies in the marketplace. Okay, so these are two different points

of view, and I have a funny feeling that one of us is going to argue for one of the studio exact. Then the other is going to argue for the other. So I am on the board of what Rothman says. Okay. Because I think that what he's talking about is what I've been talking about forever, when it comes to streamers, when it comes to family prices. We, the people that do this are in a bubble. We are blessed in the fact that we can see press screenings. So we see. Yes. Thank you. Right. So when, even when we don't see it, if we miss a press screening, we'll just go out and we'll go see it. But it's like you take like a normal family that is seeing a movie and they're paying for four people to go see a movie, parking, concessions, all that.

It does turn into a night at the theater. And where he uses, well, he said that some people could argue that price of a football game, a price of theaters to get, that's not something you want to do all the time. It's like a special event, right? So it's like, we'll go to a football. game okay how many football games do you go to a year right how many broadway shows do you go to a year right movies are supposed to be okay we can go see this i totally think that theater prices should come down i don't think volume is going to do anything i think there's enough volume on streaming platforms everywhere

so volume to me is is is definitely not the answer it's i think it's all corrupt from the top down i don't mean corrupt in terms of like someone's personal ethics or principles and morality. I think it's corrupt financially from the top all the way down. There is no reason that these executives and the studio heads should be making the amount of money that they're making. Look, I may piss some people off with that. I don't care. The truth is, it's all corrupt all the way down because those costs are being passed on step by step to the consumer, just like sports. Yeah, you got that big. You got that big, receiver and your contract, you paid him $300 million. Well, guess what? You're going to have to pay more for tickets. You're going to have to pay more for refreshments. You're going to have to pay more for memorabilia,

for the shirts, for all that, the jerseys, all of that stuff. Same thing with movies. Like, you go into a movie theater, right? A medium drink used to be a medium drink. Now it's like this size and they charge you an arm and a leg. Everything costs. And I see people go, you don't have to buy food. That's part of the process. That's part of enjoying the process. The kids get the popcorn, they enjoy it and they watch it. You got to pay for it. And I think someone saying that is someone who doesn't have kids, because kids are going to hound you until you get them stuff at the movie theater.

And let's also say the other thing, John, not just you're, you're absolutely right. But the other thing, though, when you're sitting there for a little while, let's say you get there a little earlier, right? You're sitting around. You're like, you know what? I'm kind of thirst. And it's like, and you're paying $7 for soda or whatever.

And Christian, they're three hour movies with 30 minutes of trailers ahead. of them. So you're asking for a four-hour commitment, if you include parking, what have you, for a family. And so you've got to feed them to an extent. So I think all the way from the top down, everything is too much. Contractors are overcharging studios for the work they do. All this stuff, it's just all feeding itself. And they're trying to blame. Like, I see people in our sphere going after the audience. Like, oh, you guys didn't go see this original movie. Then you're crying about original movies. What the fuck is the point of yelling at the audience? That's not going to motivate them to go see the movies. And so it's just all a cesspool of everybody attacking each other when

the truth is if you if you pass, if you reduce the cost of you, if you stop paying all these people so much money, you can use that money to move that on down to everybody else. Because you know who gets effed when they reduce ticket prices? The movie theaters. And I'll tell you why, because the upkeep, they won't be able to handle the upkeep. So you're going to sit in shittier chairs, you're going to sit around smellier carpet. But wait, wait. Wait, wait. Let me push back on that.

Isn't, doesn't the majority, I mean, I know the movie theater takes a, depends on the movie and depends on the studio. Because a lot of times, I thought that the movie theaters are really making their money from the concessions. That's what I'm saying. They're making their money off the concessions and overcharging

the consumer for the concessions. Christian, has the popcorn changed in quality? I would argue it got worse. No, but I would say I understand why the concessions are not going to come down because of that reason. I understand that that's not going to come down. Plus, the argument, again, could be made in comparison to the football games or whatever it else, too. The prices, I mean, not even just prices of football game, any event that you go to.

I went to my daughter's play, my daughters play, and the concessions. In the in the for like what you would buy for candy bar for 50, 60 cents or whatever was like $2.50. Yeah. You always do that no matter what event you go to. So I get that. I understand that. But the ticket prices play more into the studio. And it also plays into the budgets.

It also plays into well, they say, well, you know, if we're if we're making $300 million movies, then we can we can charge a little extra for this. Stop making that. Yes. Yes. And stop paying the executives as much as you're paying them. No, they shouldn't be, like, it just drives me nuts how much executives. I think you should make a living, of course, but not to the extent that they're getting paid,

because all that money is coming out of the same pool of money that you're looking at here. And that's the situation when you put the cost down on the consumer. Because you can cut the prices. Christian, there's no reason movies couldn't be $8 again, right? If you push that money down from the top, you can cut ticket prices, not lose any profit, and more people will come to the theater. You can make it more of a communal experience all over again. So to me, this is what's frustrating when I look at it all.

It's all about paying the top level and fucking everyone else on the way down. I think the problem is you're not going to have a lot of studio execs that have that share the same opinion as wrong. And they should stop crying about people not going to the movie theaters. I don't want to hear it from executives anymore. It is absolutely an economic thing. And that's what it and it adds into the fact that I was talking about this with the guy who's got a family and saying like, you know, well, there's, he hadn't seen Dune 2. Right. Wow. And it's coming and it's coming out on Max. So instead of whatever that movie is that's coming out that weekend. Right. He's him and the family, they're going to watch, they're going to watch June. Yeah. They're not going to go to the movies because they have a, he's got a really good sound system at his place. He's going to go hasn't doesn't go to the movies that much anymore because he, he just waits because that's the other.

other thing is these movies back when we were kids. Yeah. Like June 2, if June 2 would have come out back when we were kids, we'd have to wait a year before it hit HBO. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, it would go to DVD first or VHS, whatever it was back then, then eventually would end up on pay TV as we used to play with those channels. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And now, now it's on there. And it's- Cargall comes out digitally tomorrow. Christian, that just came out in the theater like three, four weeks ago. Because that's what they need to do now in order to try to make up for stuff because there's no reason to keep that movie and spend more money by keeping. No one's going to see that movie. That's why I understand the optimism sometimes.

And I talked to like Koi about this and I saw somebody else who I just was just a fan that was talking about about Fall Guy and said, this movie's so good, I believe it's going to have legs. And it's like not in the beginning of the summer movie season. No, it will not. If it doesn't do well in those first week or two, it's not going to have some miraculous comeback. What about Aquaman? Aquaman came out at the end.

of December. Aquaman 2 came out at the end of December, or whatever it was. It was something along the last year. It was in the middle of December. Yeah, absolutely. So whatever it was. And so it had,

it had time, it had time to breathe because it wasn't getting just punched in the face by all these different movies that were coming out. And you look at those movies that have come out thus far. I mean, Apes will get into in just a second. But Apes is, I saw somebody going,

this is really bad for Apes, considering it costs 120. I'm like, what are you talking about? It's the same type of, if you look at the numbers that it had minus i think dawn it's pretty on par with everything that is done plus the fact globally it's done really well the curious the curious one's going to be furiosa i'm very how that's going to do yeah yeah yeah because i mean we love bad max and certainly fury road did a really good job but will furiosa which what from what i read in the reviews if you

read between the lines it's a slower paced movie did you haven't seen it yet no i've seen it tonight i see it tonight i saw i saw my first screening in new york hey and um it was it was it's I mean, so I just watched Fury Road again last night. Yeah. After watching it. And it's amazing how much it, it's so funny now that Fury Road feels like part two of Furiosa. Oh, really? Absolutely.

It's part two. That's great. It's part two. And it, it's just that it's a movie that you definitely want to see in the theater to make this, to just, you know, more relevance to this conversation is that it's the revving of the engines just from the start of it, the sound in the how powerful that is and it's and i and i've talked about this many times over like when there's silence john you can hear the silence like that's how that's how effective it is it's it's like right so it's it is a theater movie and i'm curious to how that movie would play like my

and again bringing june back my friend of mine was like you know i still i didn't get a chance to see it in the theater and i'm like i just wonder how that will affect you on this on that run you'll still like it's a great movie but there's something about in the same way that i'm sure I would have loved June 1 even more had I seen it in the theater. Yeah, and I think it's fascinating when you look at it too, Christian, because I see a lot of people nowadays who push back on that and go, well, we grew up watching movies on TV and blah, blah, but it's different now. Like movies now are all about the spectacle of the theater, like the big tent pole films,

franchise IP films, very much about taking advantage of the optimal screen, the optimal sound in a movie theater, right? that wasn't necessarily the case in the 50, 60, 70s, 80s, even a little bit. And there were certain parts of the 80s, certainly certain films or whatever. But the last two decades, two or three, two and a half decades, it's very much been the franchise pictures that have carried the box office, carried studios. And so that has caused the advent of technology that is at the height of the audio and video appreciation. I mean, we have people arguing about the perspective of the letterbox on

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uh, someone else that I had booked in that's going to be coming in at, that, So my friend Samantha, who, if you remember Clyder Live, she used to call in. She's going to be one of my in studio people once we start going in June. But the big announcement is that for Wednesday, Matt Sarah's coming in live on the show. He'll be on the show on this Wednesday. It will be the show. He'll be on. And then Matt's going to start popping in.

And Matt's going to be a regular on the show. Wow. But the big announcement is, I am officially. going to be producing and co-hosting with Matt on his YouTube channel, the Matt Serra YouTube channel, which is, you can go now and it's just at Matt Sarah, BJJ, and you can go over there. That's awesome.

And you can subscribe to his channel. He's going to be doing a lot of different things. He's going to be doing a lot of geek stuff, other things. We'll talk about a little bit more on the show, but I'll be, I'm producing his show, and I'm working with him. So you can go and you can go over there and you can,

and you can subscribe to it. Is this the guy that chose Bibiani over me in our matchup? Is this the Matt Sarah who chose Bills or do you really not know who Matt Sarah is? I know who MMA Matt Sarah is. I'm talking about Schmodeau Matt Sarah and I know you add him on the show. That's MMA Matt Sarah. Okay. Is this the guy who chose bibs over me?

No, he didn't choose bibs. Okay. Or maybe he did, maybe he didn't on the phone. He doesn't know what the Shmodon was, man. Like he's going to be GSP. Yeah, I know. I love Matt Sarah. That's awesome.

I'm very proud we talked about this couple of weeks ago. Like I'm so excited for you with this possibility. Now that it's official, I can be excited for you. Yeah, I'm going to. He's going back on, he's going back on Rogan soon. He's going to, he's, because Joe kept telling him that he needed to do a show. And I had mentioned to him a while ago, too, and Joe's been pushing on him to do it. So I think that's going to be really great.

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So, okay. So let's get into. let's stay with the fight game, man. Okay. So I'm at a bar the other night with my buddy, James and Brett, and we're sitting down and we're just, it was just a long day of work, so we're just kicking back with a few beers.

And, you know, typical sports, New York sports bar, they've got the, they get games on in the background, and there's some boxing match on, and people started talking about boxing, and we were talking about the Mike Tyson and Paul fight.

Oh, yeah. And then we listened over to the side, and there were other people talking about the Mike Tyson, and Paul fight and my friend James says to me he goes oh did you know that Tyson Fury lost tonight and I'm like how does not everyone know about that this is the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world yeah and like you know the sports fans that were like tied into it knew the fight was and of course they knew about it but like but back in the day you couldn't stay everybody would know if the champ lost yeah yeah yeah and it's like but more people know that Jake Paul

and Tyson are fighting right then they did Tyson Fury was fighting. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's just boring now. Since the Klitschko brothers became champions, and there's no offense to their talent, they're all, you know, both of them, fantastic boxers. The heavyweight division has been kind of boring.

And yeah, Anthony Joshua, and there was the Ruiz pop up, and then you have Deonté Wilder, certainly exciting fighters. But they're not the Canelo. Like, Canelo is the guy, the lower weight classes are, where you get much more attention.

That's what I was saying again. Sorry. It's been like that. But the problem is, John, it's less about, it's less about that. Because if there are some exciting heavyweights, finally, Josh, and those people too. Sure. But more about the idea and the reason why UFC popped is because,

and I've said this many times over, it's one organization that makes their champions fight who is ranked. The organization runs it. Not the fighters. In boxing, the fighters and their name. Mike Tyson, Jake Paul is an example of that. Like, they're running that fight. No one's going to care about what comes next.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Depends on whoever Jake Paul will find some other, you know, big, you know, older celebrity or something to fight. And that'll, like, that's how you make money in boxing now. It's not about the champion fighting the right contender. Right. The allure of Tyson is what sells here. And you saw in the press conference. Yes.

Jake Paul came out like a madman saying, you know, going at the audience, going at everybody. And then Tyson calmly countered him and still, Tyson did a great job of tightrope walking because he dipped back into the old Tyson in certain moments and then stayed the evolved Tyson in other moments. And it works so well in the back and forth with Jake. Because I'm sure they talked this out ahead of time. Jake, you go crazy. Not going to say all the things you want to say, I'm good.

I'm going to occasionally say some things here, but then I'm going to try to come off in this other way, and people are going to eat it up. And you're going to be the villain. I'll be the hero. And then we'll see what happens when we get in that ring. So smart to promote it that way. And the press conference,

I was watching some of it. You sent me the link and I watched some of it, and then watch the highlights later, perfectly done, perfectly done. Yeah, it was done. It was done well. And the other thing that I heard, and I don't know how true it is, so I'm not going to start saying, oh, my God.

But from what I heard, there was some report that in the contract, says essentially that Mike Tyson knocks out Jake Paul in the first round. He doesn't get any money. And then in the second, he's got it, he's got to like basically last eight rounds in order to actually, I don't, I don't know how true that is. This is something that I saw floating on social media, so I don't just buy it right away, but it's along the lines that there's a lot of stipulations inside of the contract itself. I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, a lot of people thought that way about the Connor McGregor Floyd Mayweather fight that Mayweather had essentially signed a contract to keep McGregor a float for six or seven rounds and then he put them away in the ninth so i wouldn't be surprised people want a spectacle and if that's what they got to do behind the scenes you can enjoy a fight fine

um but you know you know if you if you tune in for 40 seconds people are going to be upset so give him a long fight why not i don't want to see him i want to see it be over in like 45 seconds that amount of money i don't know what what my money i mean i play for i pay Netflix every month. Fair point. I'm not paying pay-per-view. Now, actually, even when Netflix paid these people, I think they want them to fight for a bit. That's probably, that's probably true. Okay, so speaking of money, speaking-

Do you have a prediction? Do you have a prediction on this one? So, Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, it was fun. Who's just said that recently. There was someone, oh, no, it was a dumb, there's some movie I'd never even heard of with the big show and Hulk Hogan that I saw somebody tweeted about, and it was, like,

Hogan was Zeus. Oh, yeah. No, hold Bard. Come on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not that Zeus. Okay. Not, not tiny listener. No, no, no, Hogan actually played the Greek. What?

Yes, and Big Show was, was somebody else. And, I mean, like, what's his face? From, oh, my God, from John Hurd, right now. Who's, who's from, from Home Alone, the Dead? Yeah, John Hurd. Yeah, John Hurd. So John Hurd was in, I mean, the amount of people in this movie that shouldn't, this movie looked like it was shot.

on a VHS can you know one of those camcorders sounds about right it was I mean it was it's it's atrocious remember a little Hercules remember that oh yeah he plays hercules like and yeah it's it's it's ridiculous and but at one point I think that I think Hogan rips off the pain line from from T inside what I remember it's it's I've never even heard of this thing until the other day and I wish that I never have you um it's bad but I how do we how do we get down how do we get down that oh i don't know i was just saying prediction for the tyson um if there is these stipulations

it favors paul if if if he's got to try to last you know eight rounds with the 24 year old kid and the kids running around away from him and you try to like take his power away they can only start throwing bombs into the eighth round right um it certainly favors paul but i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna predict on the i'm gonna be naive and believe that this is just an actual fight with no stipulations.

Okay. And I'm going to say Tyson finishes him in the third. I think I agree with you. Tyson in the third. Yeah. That sounds about right. He'll gauge him in the first, figure out where he's at, get the rhythm back, and then really if he hurt him in the second, he'll hold on and then he'll put him away in

the third. Yeah, absolutely. It's true. Unless he holds the whole time. That's hilarious. So EBZ, suck it. Because I was following, I was following boxing way before you even, born probably.

So I was, that whole thing when it came, boxing was my sport. And I watched everything when I was a kid. I watched stuff that way. I used to go to, I couldn't even find stuff and say Pete. And I trained at Winky Rights gyms. Don't tell me about how stick to your soul. And this.

Eat shit. I actually, from when it comes to, when it comes to boxing, now I can't tell, I can't tell you how in depth that I am about it. Because I don't know it. I lost interest in it. And when it became to the actual, organization of it, that is when how organized UFC was back. I kind of transferred over and I switched over back in like 2006, 2007, because I wanted

boxing to get its shit together. I wanted boxing to actually have instead of WBA, I BF, WBA, all that stuff. I wanted it to be one organization. Then it lost its way. So, no, I'm going to ask you to you stick to your depth and don't just say nonsense. when it comes to the actual sport, the sport lost people. I'm sorry, if you love it. Great. But it's lost people.

So don't start just making accusations and say, oh, you don't know what you're talking about. No, I actually do. I watched many, many, many, many, many, many fights over the years with a lot of different boxers, probably ones that you don't even know. But, I mean, I used to watch Tapia

all the time. I used to, I mean, tons of, tons of fights. It was great. Yeah. But the sport is just not the same anymore. I'm glad you still love it. It's great. I'm just glad you used to follow it, but it's not the same anymore. And do I think that the Jake Paul and Tyson fight is the one that's going to save boxing? No, of course it isn't.

It's going to give Netflix a boost. Yeah. Boxing is in, is not in the state that it used to be in the 80s and 90s and the Delahoya days and the Bargis days, all that. It's not mainstream. Yeah. You're right. 100%. It's not mainstream like it was no matter what EVEs says.

And he's probably one of those people that's like, but the quality of the action in the ring is great. Yeah, that's fine. but people aren't watching it or talking about it at the levels that they did before and that's the whole point we're trying to make those are two separate fucking arguments like a dw people our wrestling product is great fine nobody's watching so it's like that's the problem that's what matters they cover it'll be maybe some big fights or big moments that go viral that people will be talking about for a couple of days and then it goes away it's not like they're not tuning into the next fight unless that fighter it happens to be fighting again and

then maybe you get lucky if that fighter builds it up but it's like you want the sport to be elevated, not just, that was my point with, boxers are just individual fighters who, they have too much power as far as being able to choose who they want. Mayweather made a career out of it. Mayweather never had to fight the guy. Like, that's why I loved Holyfield. When Holyfield was like a camp, man, Holyfield fought everybody.

Yep. He fought everybody. And so did Lennox Lewis. Lennox Lewis and another guy. Yeah. Underrated. But anyway, so that's, that's the boxing portion of the show. I see that people are, I see people are putting questions in there and super chats in there.

We're going to get to all of them. We're going to get to all of them. So don't worry. We'll get to every single one. But I want to talk about the next, the Apes, because this is box office here, John. And we're talking about box office before. We'll talk about some more box office. Now, let's get to, I'm just going to talk about the numbers itself.

And here it is. Apes is strong at the global box office, Garth Franklin over at Dark Horizons. Oh, okay. Cool. No, no, I see the bucket crab is back. I see Carillo is back, the bucket crab. But anyway, go ahead. Keep going.

Disney and 20th Century's Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is powering on overseas, taking 40.6 million in its second weekend of release internationally. Two weekends under its belt, the new chapter in the franchise has now generated 237 million worldwide. And it's already the fourth highest grossing movie of the year behind only June, art two, Godzilla and Kong New Empire and Kung Fu Panda. That said, with its 160 million, it needs to be closer to that half billion mark to be in profit. It's faring better than John Krasinski's fantasy comedy, if which topped the domestic, but came second in the international box last weekend.

In the U.S. it's set to snag $35 million, which is in line with expectations. Internationally, though, it only collected $20 million, and it sits at $59 million total in opening weekend. It will need good word of mouth as its 110 million budget means it has to perform well. The Garfield movie hasn't hit the U.S. just yet, has already racked up 49 million overseas. It is slated to finally open domestically this coming week where it will take on Furiosa on the Memorial Day weekend. So I'm also going to look at the box office mojo numbers total here. And we look at Kingdom of the Planet of the 8th was 20.

Excuse me, if was number one at 35 million. Kingdom of the Planet of the 8th was 26. The Strangers, Chapter 1, was 12 million. Fall Guy made another eight, and Challenger's made 2.9. But when it stands the first if, right? We'll talk about that. I haven't had a chance to see it yet. Did you see it?

No, I didn't see because it got mixed reviews, and from a couple of people who I trust, I didn't want to go see it. And so when they told me that it wasn't that good, it was a bit maudlin, I was like, okay, I'm good. I don't need to go see it. not for me, you know, so I didn't go. Well, so I going to go see it. Okay. But then I realized

that my six and a half year old would be devastated if I saw it without her. Now, I was going to go see the, I was going to see the press screening when I was in L.A. Oh, yeah. But I just, it didn't have a chance to. I think I was leaving. It was, it was a day or two when I went to New York and then I missed the one that was here. So I also, I could have seen it at the theater this weekend and done it the theater reaction. I was going to do that. But like I said, and I said, well, if, you know, you can go see it twice. And I was like, yeah, but what if it's not that good? Do I want to see it twice? I'm like, I don't know. I don't know if I want to see it twice. So I said, I'm just going to

wait and I'm going to do another theater reaction for it, you know, when I get back to L.A. and I go and I go and I go see it with my six and a half year old. I'll go, I'll go check it out. But no, it hasn't, it hasn't had the kind of reaction I was hoping it would. And I was, and I have self-first reasons why I'm, I'm hoping it would because like, this is my six and a half yearls most anticipated movie right so so i want it to be like a mega hit so she's she doesn't care she nobody could watch it she still is gonna she loves the she'll the beauty of being a six and a half year old she's just going to love it and she's going to you know she's going to want to see it a thousand times um but yeah that movie hitting 35 million it definitely needs to to have a little bit

more legs when garfield's here because i heard garfield's got some pretty good reviews by the way yeah i know i was surprised by that everyone was out with their fork and knives but then the reviews came out were pretty positive. So we'll see. Yeah, yeah. So I talked myself into that one this week at some point. We'll see. And then strangers, which did okay.

Dude, the reviews on that were horrible. My God. I can't believe you've made 12 million. Yeah, that's a decent that I made 12. I did not. It's another one I didn't get a chance to see it. But it is going to be very interesting on how Furiosa. Yeah.

Going to do because, yeah. it's going to be very very very interesting to you're not that far away from deadpool and wolverine right dude that's like two or three weeks away uh a little bit more legs if has is i think it's going to get swallowed up by ryan reynolds's other film so well you mean yeah yeah whatever legs if has if it has any i think it's going to get swallowed it's so far away i mean it's almost two months away by the time that that that movie comes out the furiosa and the deadpool and wolverine yeah but i mean fury i mean well i think it's I think it's more so about Garfield inside out that's got that movie.

Oh, inside out too. Right. Good point. That has way more of a chance to just knock it off of any legs that it potentially have because those other movies I think are just very different audiences. But like Apes, Apes, which needs to make its money to hit like 500 to make a profit. Yeah. Apes has Furioso to deal with now, right?

So Furiosa will take some of the money away from Apes. And then then it's got a little leeway until, like, can't remember there's something that comes out in mid-June and i can't remember what it is if it's anything i think apes could hit 500 you can get close yeah okay i'm not sure it's doing well inside out too is mid-june yeah it's but again different audience right so it's like so the idea is it's the same conversation that we had in the beginning of this show though it's how if if you're somebody who hasn't seen apes and it came out a month ago and you have all this other stuff that you could watch on to end and

let's not forget about how heavy june is in television with house of the dragon um the bear season two the boys acolyte you have all these shows that are coming out in june you're going to have tons of stuff to watch that you're like oh i'll always wait for apes to come on you know disney plus and whenever the hell is coming out so and bad boys ride or die is coming out on june 7 and that's getting some great reviews which i was shocked at uh i don't you saw the variety article on on friday massively great reviews which one which one the bad boys film the fourth bad oh good good good so that

can have some surprising legs as well um okay so we are we only like one or two more thing to talk about in the topic so like i said if you want to throw any of those i saw all the super chats that came in we're going to get to all of them we're going to get to all your questions so if you have anything and i did say someone someone mentioned and i love doing this too because it's becoming like a bit now and someone says Why would you be moving to New York from LA? It's not that much cheaper. I'm not moving to Manhattan.

That's what people always think. It's like I'm not moving to Manhattan. Just to give you a breakdown. When I left L.A., when I left L.A., the gas prices were $7. Where I am right now, they're $3.20. That gives you any indication. You're incorrect when you're comparing where I'm living,

comparing to L.A. This is not. living in the city. If you're thinking that was living in Manhattan, then you are accurate. It is very, very expensive there. Yeah, you've made it clear. You're not moving to New York City. You said New York. There's a difference. Yeah. Yes. Anyway, so let's get to this last thing here. And then we'll get to the, we'll get to the questions. Sounds good. All right. So this is, you know, which let's let's just actually, you know what, John, this is something, there's actually two things I forgot about this. I saw this the other day. And apparently,

there is a rumor running around the joint about James Mangold's Star Wars film. And apparently it's called Jedi Prime. Yes. So a year ago came the news from Star Wars Celebration in London that multiple new Star Wars films were in the works, including one to be directed by James Mangle. Project was dubbed as taking place in the dawn of the Jedi era of the Star Wars timeline. It would be set 25,000 years before episode one.

While the film doesn't have an official title yet, as shorthand people have been dubbing at dawn of the Jedi, as Mangold has been at work on his Bob Dylan biopic in recent months. There have been little in the ways of updates. Now speaking with SFX, producer Simon Emmanuel appears to have potentially let a slip of a new title, saying James Mangold's Jedi Prime has set thousands and thousands of years before the original trilogy, and I'm excited to see what happens there. Emmanuel produced Rogue One and the upcoming The Acklead Series, and is so is fairly familiar with his Star Wars terminology, which suggests the name isn't accidental.

This would fit with Mangold's time period and desire to explore the force's origins. The prime Jedi appeared in a mosaic in 2017, the last Jedi in the Lord. They were the first Jedi to use the force and founded the Jedi order on the planet Octu, where Luke went into hiding. Just when Mangold will get to work on the film remains an open question. John, we'll start with you. Okay. So do you think that this is the name of the film?

No. No. No. I think that's a working title that I think it'll change. Jedi Prime. That sounds like Transformers. And so to me it doesn't radiate Star Wars. Use the force.

Exactly. Jedi's. Yeah, round out. No way, no way. Roll out. I don't think it will work at all. So I think it's just a working title for now. And then it'll eventually change to what the,

They think it's going to, because we're a ways away from this film coming out, dude. So I'd be really surprised if they've already titled and they're going to stick with this title. I think it will change. I think whether it was a working title, which I think you're probably spot on about. But even if it wasn't and it was the title, they probably will change it now. Yeah. Yeah, because people's reaction wasn't strong or positive. But do we know what the idea was?

And I still, and I'm so glad that Josh Harowitz asked this. And it didn't get, it didn't get more. It should have gotten way more coverage than it did. Beniof and Weiss, I remember hearing about this a long time ago before they even were announced that what they were essentially working on was what Mangold is working on. Like the same type, the same era, the origins of the force, all of that. And then they left the project and nobody, and it was kind of like rumored to what they were working on. Then they announced Mangold and all this stuff.

And then Horowitz asked him about, like, is it weird that he's doing the same thing and go back and watch their reaction? It's not, they're not like, they could have said, no, you know, it was like they did say they respected the mangle. They made that very clear. But they could have said something along the way it was like, no, it was completely different thing. The way that they made it seem was like, yeah, we kind of, that was kind of our thing. And now it's not. Yeah. Not what they said, but it seemed to imply.

that. But Lucas don't seem to wanting to do this time period, this era in general. I'm curious to see what they're going to do with it and how they're going to make this work. And I think that this is definitely what the story is going to be, but the name on the title, yeah, probably not. Yeah.

But I mean, those guys can't say anything right because of the NDA. But they can, they can, as you said, facially show you what they're thinking about. Yeah, of course they were. And it's a little embarrassing that you were coming off a Game of Thrones. You're going to work for

Star Wars, you come up with this idea, then things fall apart and you get ushered off the project, probably I think because of what happened in the final season of Game of Thrones, and they move on to someone else. And they're essentially pick up what you already started, and they let that person possibly take it to the finish line. Of course, you're going to be upset. But contractually and legally, you can't say what you really want to say, but you can say it with your face and let people fill in the blanks.

And that's exactly what I think that they did. Okay. So now let's move on to back to budgets. Yeah. This was something that I just saw you. Fast and Furious is one of these movie franchises that have been, it was it was it was the golden goose man. It was making a billion dollars every time we put something out there. And, you know, it showed that it was human after the pandemic and all this stuff too. The last movie, last two haven't hit a billion, obviously. And the last movie was a ridiculous, ridiculous budget. So this is again, Dark Horizons, Universal Pictures, Fast and Furious. Furious franchise has been getting louder and more bombastic every entry, culminating and Fast X, which cost $340 million to make. So to no one's surprised it didn't make a profit and it made $715 million. That's a crime.

Yeah. It made $750 million and it didn't make a profit. That's ridiculous. Combined with a home video and other revenues, it barely managed to not be a loss. Yeah. So speaking with variety, Donna Langley again, says, that there's still gas in the tank, slick of this franchise, but makes it clear that if the franchise were to move forward after the 11th film in the series, it will likely keep its costs in check.

So she says, where we go next is a question. We may pivot another time and bring it back to the streets of L.A. and maybe make it more intimate story. Langley also suggested a streaming spinoff, much that has been done for perfect and Ted and Fast and Furious is a good one in response. to question of what other films it could be. Whether Universal's regality regarding these movies will impact Fast 11 is too early to tell. It has long been suggested that the final entry will be set in Los Angeles, setting of the first film, which could help in terms of budget savings. This, I mean, I'm going to sound like a broken record. This is what every movie should do, especially the big IPs, which I don't get.

I've mentioned this, and I always use the example of Terminator. And I think that they were going to do this for Robocop. don't know. I don't know if I made this up or this is an actual story that A24 was going to do like a Robocop. I don't know. Is that, is that, did I make that up? I can't recall. I thought Prime Video bought the IP for, but either way, like making a movie like what A24 does. Yeah. Yeah. Bringing a budget down like if you can take an IP like Terminator and going back to basics like it was in like 1984 and bringing down costs and, you know, get like one actor that. that people recognize and fill it with really good actors,

but not big names, and do that for big IPs in the same way that you, like, now granted, you're not going to make a Jurassic Park for $50 million. Right. You can make it for 120. Yeah. Do what you did for Kong versus Kong and Godzilla. The last one cost like one, it costs like $125 million. And they made a lot of money off of it because it didn't cost $250 million to make.

Yeah. So if they can do that kind of stuff and fast and furious, if you made a Fast and a Furious, it's harder to do because you have such an inflated cast right now. Right, right. But if you were able to make a Fast and Furious movie, because I think they're what, this one from what they said,

they're scaling down and they're making it for $200 million, which is like a small number to them. This movie, this movie should cost $120, but it's impossible because of all the talent you got involved. Yeah, yeah, cut the cast down. I think that's the way to go. And again, you come back to this, I'm not breaking into a new ground,

saying this, but prey is the blueprint. Pray is the example that you can use if you can find a way back. And look, people ridicule the Fast and Furious franchise. It used to be bulletproof, but now the bullets are getting through. There's a lot of shoot in the godfather. You can get to the, you can get to Fast and Furious now. And so that's affecting the box office. So how do you approach this?

You pair it down. You bring it back to its base. Because, I mean, going out into space, there's not much more else you can do now. You went out into space like everyone joked you were going to do in the last one. you're in on the joke now let's pair it down and let's rediscover the magic of why people loved this franchise or fell in love with this franchise to begin with and that's that first movie so yeah do that cut down the cast and then go from there and yes it's fine you're gonna lose some really fun people you've had in the cast but that's the game and so I think that's that's the smart move of the 200 million

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I always get kind of humble when we start the show. Before we even start, there's people who put the questions in, you know. And there was some great questions that come in each and every time. So we're going to go all the way to the beginning of the show where the first question was asked and of usually always is. So is our good buddy Mike Joyce. Mike always usually the first question. I think he prides himself on it now and I love that about Mike. And he said, if more like oof, oh man, what did you guys think of it?

Well, we talked about. We haven't seen it yet, but it looks like Mike saw it and did not like it. Yeah, sounds like, wow. Okay. I don't know. It was a split. It was split. The reviews were split.

Some people felt. What was it on rotten tomato? You know? Uh, no, I'll look at a book. You'll go and we'll see who can follow Mike Joyce. I don't think there's only one person that could follow Mike Joyce. That's Mike Joyce. Uh, and he said, I started watching the Chucky movies because of Roxy doing reactions to them on the road.

All except the third one have been great. Seed of Chucky is my favorite. Is Chucky the best horror franchise? No. No. I mean, well, I, not to me. Uh, and not to John, I don't think. I think that there's other franchises in, in the, it depends on what you're looking for, right?

like Chuckie and Freddie were always the two like stand-up comedians of the of the slasher's. You know, Chuck always made me laugh. Freddie always made me laugh. But no, I wouldn't. I mean, I've,

and to be honest with you, I've seen, I heard the TV show for at least the first season was really good of Chuckie, but I haven't seen, um, the first movie I remember watching and, and really enjoying it. But no,

I wouldn't call it the best franchise. No, no, but it's, but the fact that it spawned a TV series. Yeah. There went multiple seasons and the fact that people come back. to make this work.

And you've got the voice of Brad Doriff doing that. I think Mark Hamill took over for a bit. He did like the reboot version, yeah. A reboot, right. So you've got good people involved in this. And clearly there's a fan base that loves the chuggy stuff. It's not the greatest horror franchise, but it's in the conversation of some of one of the best, for sure.

Okay, next one. This is elusive rock. What's up, man? Jurassic World 4, Fast and Furious. I think that's what is. I think FF is fast. And Superman all drop in July 2025. will all three hit a billion and who makes them most?

It's a great question. I think, like I said, it's that billion dollar dart is harder to hit that bullseye these days. It's just harder to hit the bullseye because of whatever reason, whatever reason it might be, it's not as likely. So if you're asking between those, Jurassic World, Fast and Furious and Superman, who I would pick if I had to bet money, Jurassic World, because that move, those movies, that last movie was atrocious. Terrible.

Atrocious and it hit a billion dollars. The movie before that, really bad, hit a billion dollars. Yeah. You're gonna, I'm gonna go with the proven number on that one because it also plays very well internationally. So does Fast and Furious. But I don't know, I hope Superman wins.

That's my goal. My wish is I hope Superman wins out of those three. But I think it, realistically, I would say, in the order that you put them in there Jurassic World Fast and Furious and then Super Bowl yeah I'd like to counter you but I can't you're right about Jurassic World it is this franchise that put I mean they haven't made a good movie in my opinion since the first one but you could argue maybe the second one or the third one is is fun but like I to me that they somehow they are just untouchable and that last one as you says atrocious it well over a billion dollars

shocked that it did so well so clearly they don't have the high bar they have to hit in order to make that money. Superman, I don't know if that's going to make a billion dollars, even if it's a fantastic film. I don't know if the interest is there to push it over a billion. And I think Fast and Furious, I think Vin has gotten too long in the tooth, and it's not motivating enough for people to go see it anymore

because that is a young person's franchise. Cars, Hot Rock Cars and all the things they're doing, all the different changes, the races, all that's young people stuff. Vin is in his 50s. It just doesn't it's not it just doesn't make sense they'd have to go back and find someone who was as charismatic as Vin when he was younger. I think that's going to bring the box office back. Maybe I don't know. Yeah, maybe. I don't know what happened. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Next one. Josh Neal went to the movies on Saturday and I was shocked by how many people came into 20 30 minutes late to the actual movie or past the previews not only distracting, but I could. Oh, I guess they missed the beginning of the movie. I would find another time. Is this a normal thing? Look, this is as I said, as I said, I am blessed enough that a majority of times that I'm going to the movies these days are through press screenings. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Most people are getting there 15 to 20 minutes early because they're not reserved seats and you're trying to get your seats. So I am still, when it comes to press screenings, I'm still living in the early 2000s and the 90s as far as how people get their seats. But I have been to a few when you buy, you know, buy in the seats and get in the, and I still get there early. That's what I always do, especially. if I'm with my kids, which is normally when I'm going to, you know, the movies.

Yeah. When I not press screenings. And I can't, I haven't seen a lot of that, 15, 20 minutes. And I think people are probably saying to themselves, well,

we'll miss the previews and then we'll go. And maybe they're just, they, they miscalculate. What do you have? Yeah, no, I think they miscalculate. Or these are people sneaking in.

That still happens. People sneak into theaters, buy a ticket for one thing and sneak into something else. But I think it's more a matter of them trying to gauge, the previews and how long they're going to be. So, yeah, that seems to be the case. But look, your overall point about theater etiquette, that's another thing we didn't add to our conversation.

It's also getting worse to go to movie theaters now. People are more disrespectful than they've ever been before. People talk, people on their phones, people take calls and stay in the theater in the middle of movies. People talk really loud in movies now in a way they didn't before. People think it's their living room. And I paid for their fucking commentary. So there's all that happening

That also adds to reasons why people aren't going to the movie theaters in the same manner that they did before. Yeah, that's fair point. All right, next one. Here is Armada. Best Tribe called Quest album. Love low-end theory.

Well, low-end theory is my favorite, but if you're going to take that one, I'll take Midnight Marauders. Yeah, I have to go Midnight Marauders. Yeah, yeah, that's my jam. Okay. Let's see. Next one here.

Great questions so far. And like I always say, you might be, I saw there are a lot of new people to the stream for the first time that we do it live. We don't miss a question. If we do, we go back and we'll make it up next week. But we try to get every single question and there's no cutoff. So if you want to start throwing questions in now, as I saw someone just did it, we will. And another one just came in. So thank you.

All right. So Carlton Rudder, the great Carlton Rudder, who was right before I got here, was coordinating. We got something for the studio for us to. So very, very helpful, very kind. So thank you, Carlton. Call the lack of respect that some cinema goers is getting worse. I hope cinema now means they treat theaters as an extension of their own couch.

Yeah, I think that's the generation thing, though, man. I think, I really do. And I think that it's also because there's just not a lot of, there's not a lot of theater etiquette. And I think, and maybe I'll sound like the grouchy old man on the porch at this point, but I think that that's how they look at people who say, put your phone down, do this, do that. They go, oh, you're just, okay, boomer, but you know what I mean?

It's like, it seems like they don't understand that it's like, like you said, John, you're not in your living room. You're at an experience with other people. And you can't say shit because then they go all upset and it becomes a whole issue. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So here is Pete Parker, 2288.

I saw Fall Guy this weekend. I thought it was just okay. No movie this year has really been that great, in my opinion. I think Beekeeper is my number one. so far. Beacon was a lot of fun. I will strongly disagree and say, Dawn 2,

Dawn 2 is one of the best movies in the last 10 years. But that's my opinion. But Dune 2 was fantastic. Furios is good. I really liked Apes, and Beatkeeper was a fun action movie. Yeah.

But I could tear apart that third act like nobody's person. So don't know. That's the best film. He enjoyed the most. Fair enough. For sure, for sure. But do you do the best film.

Yeah. Maybe Oscar would. The big fang. I like that. Caught up on my backlog of episodes and able to join live. I'm glad that you did. Thoughts on Logan versus Cody. What is that?

Oh, Logan Paul taking on Cody. Yeah. Yes. Feels like they should have went a different direction if it wasn't winner takes all. I think it would be a colossal error if they give Cody the U.S. title. Yes. It would be stupid. And it would be just to make him a Grand Slam champion.

that would be dumb. It'll also diminish Paul, who is, I think that claim of him being the longest current champion right now is they should stick with that. Yeah. To continue to go with that and they should let it, let him hold on to that U.S. title for almost as long as Gunther held on to the IG title. Let him hold on to it and let him, because that title, it needs more validity to it. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. I think this is great for Logan and Cody to, the top superstars going at it, arguably in their primes. Cody's still

on the tail end of his prime, but still damn good. And Logan coming into his own as a wrestler. This is so much fun. And it's an exciting program. Yeah. Getting caught up on who gets the belts or doesn't get? That's all nonsense. We want to see two great wrestlers have fun

in a program. This is absolutely going to lead to a disqualification by Logan or a double DQ out of way. And so that nobody loses any kind of title, but they all look, but they both look good in the program. Because it's overseas, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, because I think that's another reason why they want to have two big names. Yeah, it's lighting over there. And there was a clean finish with AJ. Yes. It's okay not to have a clean finish on this one. And also you want to elevate what you do is you want to get down the line because if Logan Paul keeps at it, he'll be in a much different position in the next year or two. Yeah.

And that you can always use this as part of the history that sells him and Cody down the line. Yeah. People get mad when I say this, but the WWE doesn't need MJF. They don't need MJF. They have so many great potential stars already. They don't use him, but they could use him. They don't need him. There's a difference. Yeah, it's like they don't need him the way AEW needs him. Right. Right. But they would love to have him and I would love to have him because what I do think that the WWE needs though, why I would say that they need him in a certain way. I don't think they need him for success, but I think they need him.

They don't have a lot of great mic workers. They don't have a lot of great. I mean, their best mic worker is a 44-year-old guy who's got maybe two more years left in the tank in CM. Right? You're being kind by saying too. Maybe, right, maybe. I mean, he's going to be around, I think, with WW.

I mean, don't look at him now, dude. He's having so much fun again. 100%. And so, like, having him, like, being able, if he's, and what a great story would be that he was able to kind of, you know, squash everything, come back, be an announcer, do all these things, because that's what he's going to be doing. He's great on the mic. But my point, Drew McIntyre is getting much better on the mic. A hundred percent. Really good, but there's not a lot of great people on the mic.

Yeah. Right now, I love Cody, but he's not great on the mic. Cody is good on the mic. You're absolutely right. Yeah. All right. Let's see. Next one. Al Renshi, I hope Roku will buy Christian a steak dinner. You don't have to hope. It's going to happen. We'll see. Yeah, he knows it too. I know, I know John well enough that John just not going to, John, John will tell us after the bet's over that he pretty much conceded once the trailers and stuff came out. He know, he already knows. I know John well enough that he knows that he's lost any of movies. He's not, he's also not defending his points. Yeah, look, that's, he knows. He has not always talking about.

He knows. The big thing. Thoughts on the new bloodline. All his reactions are great, and I think Solo and Thomas character work had added a new dynamic. No, it sucks. It sucks. It sucks. It's the worst. The bloodline now is like watching the sons of the great people come through and think they can take over and have the same kind of cachet. And they don't. It is so rough watching this stuff.

I'm a crazy person. Let me off the leash. Come on, man. It's nonsense. Bloodline at the peak had great drama, acting, story. story lines, promos, and matches to back it all over. You know why they're doing this? Yeah.

This is like watching the office once Steve Correll left. It was not good. But the difference is that they know Steve Carrell is going to come back in this circumstance. I don't know we're going to come back to the bloodline, though. He's, dude, there's going to be, there's going to be two factions now. Like, what's going to happen? Yeah. It's going to happen is if they can hold it for this long.

Yeah. If they can hold out Roman rains coming back at the Rumble, if they can hold out Roman rains coming back at the rumble. if they can hold it. I mean, it's a long time, but if they can hold it for that long, and then the Uso's and Roman get back together against these guys, they don't have the kind of electricity.

These guys aren't formidable. So even if they do fight these guys, it's like, you know. It's a good point. It's like beating your 10-year-old brother. Yeah, they got to find a way to make them more, you know, menacing. Miguel Zion, over under 30% that all the footage that we've seen from Deadpool 3 are from the 30 to at most 45 minutes of the movie. I hope it's paced well and there are still emotions.

I'm going to say that it's over 30%. I think that's something that they've done very well. I think the majority of those trailers have been just from the beginning of that movie. And I think that's a great way to do it. What do you think? Over? Absolutely over, but I would argue it's only the first 15 to 20. Topps.

Good. Good. And I hope that's the truth. Oh, Miguel, you followed up by a heartbreaker. How about the Pacers? Who wins at all? I think the Celtics won it all. Celtics now with the Nuggets gone, and I think that's absolutely the Celtics to lose.

Like, they have to win it. The Celtics Wolves is going to be a damn good series. I don't think the Mavs are going to beat the wolves. I think the Celtics are going to absolutely pace the Pacers. And I think Celtics wolves are going to be real interesting. What a high power offense versus an incredibly tough defense. It's going to be, and the emergence of Anthony Edwards. It's going to be a blast.

True. Mike, you shaved. you look great with a big beard. Yeah, I mean, I don't know about the big beard, but I only shaved because stupidly, this is why. Now you asked, I'll tell you the reason. I was, I was in the, I was in the new place, and I was, and I was shaven and with the,

with the, with the, with the, with the trimmers that I have. And I went too close with one of it. And it just was, it was so off. It looks so stupid. I was like, I got to, I got to get rid of it all. So stupid. But it'll be, it'll grow back fast. I got to, I got to, I got.

It's got to grow back before I get home. At least the stubble's got to come back because the little one does not like clean-shaven me at all. My wife doesn't like it anymore either. Gabe Oliveira. Thoughts on trigger warnings before shows and movies. Oh, I saw this. Goodfellas hit the news. Yeah, I'll explain this.

I saw this other day. Goodfellas hit the news recently in Apple's news show Sugar, spoiled an episode of a character's fate. So recently, I forget what channel it was on. Okay. They put that Goodfellas depicts stereotypes and all these different things. And I'm like, what are you doing? This movie is this movie is so many years old.

What are we doing? It's like this is the part of it where there's certain times where you should be sensitive to certain things, certain cultures and other things. Other times, it's like, what are you talking about? And I don't know what it was as far as sugar goes, but you should do everything you can. to protect, you know, your story that if you tell somebody what happens, and like he said, you know, well, clearly that's going to happen to this person and there you go. I think that people are too damn sensitive about everything, everything, everything, everybody, and we're just

at this conversation with a comedian friend of mine the other day. If they get offended by every single thing, you can't do certain things. And like, to do that for the Goodfellas was just, it's idiotic, idiotic. Yeah. Idiot. That's, it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it's. It's, it's. It's, it's, it's. That's an Italian, John. Yeah, I know. It's too far. That's too. I mean, look, I get the reputation all the time.

You know this person, John Woka and all that. And if you've lost me, you're doing something wrong. You're doing something wrong. Yeah, it broke is the one telling you, come on, I'm too much. Pull it back. Pull it back. I think this is right. There are certain things, yes, you'll be respectful and understanding and it's okay to do that.

And no matter what anybody cries about, it's the right thing to do. But something like that. Studio executive comes running in. Hey, guys, remember we said that, yeah, yeah, obviously Roku will have our back. He didn't. Pull it. Pull him.

It's nonsense. Fucking nonsense. Good fun. It's a mafia movie. So stupid. Armada. Do you think Horizon is going to be a bomb? Should they have a backup plan if the first one doesn't work well at the box office?

Which one's Horizon? The Kevin Costner Western. Oh, oh. The reviews are up today this morning. Yeah. All right. So then I don't know if you've seen. the reviews.

I just read the variety one this morning. And? And it's, they're saying it's good, but it's kind of a setup. So it's a thinner movie and it, they wanted to do. It's coming to two months later. That's the concern for me. Right, right. Because you look at Matrix 2 and Matrix 3, they came out like five or six months apart

from one or another. And that was like, whoa, those are close. This is like, I've never heard of them. I don't know any movie that's ever done that before. Right, right. But I think you can only get away with, in a year like this when you have less movies coming out. I agree.

So that's why it's just a unique situation. Costa is doing something unique. God love him, man. How many years now, four or five decades? He's been in our lives, Christian? Yeah, I know you're excited for this. This is right. Oh, 100%.

I didn't do a reaction to the new trailer because I already reacted the first one. It's fine. I don't need to react to more. And this one's coming out in a couple weeks or three weeks. And so I'm looking forward to it. I just wonder how the Western is going to play. Especially a three-hour one, brother.

I don't. Yeah. I know. So I don't know. It's a very fair point to ask. X-Men fancast. Roker, would it be smart for Glenn Powell to try to get Cyclops role based on his career trajectory? Also, thoughts on Jacob Elwardi as Gamb as Butler, Bardem as Apocalypse.

So let's start with the first part. Go with the Glenn Powell. I think it has to, it depends on how you're writing the X-Men movie. If I'm Glenn Powell, I don't take it if you're treating him like they treated James Marsden. Right. It has to be a much more front-facing Cyclops film. Like he has to be a very big part of the movie. Whereas Glenn Powell, as you said, Glenn Powell's trajectory, it makes a logical sense for him not to take a part and be the ensemble,

but be one of the main, main leads. And so I think it's got to be how it's written. So I like that idea. Jacob Alortia's Gambit. Sure, that's fun. I mean, you really, who's good for the other? Either one, it's fine. But yeah, and barred him is apocalypse.

I'd be down with it, especially because he's not Doctor Doom now. So I think that would be interesting for him as Apocalypse. But here's why, like, if they cast Awesome Butler as Gambit, I mean, you'd be like, okay, of course, it's Austin Butler, he's getting everything right now. But would he'd be great as Gambit, he would. And I actually really like him, and I'd be like, that's a great casting choice.

But I would go more towards the Jacob Allorty acting because of he's a very good actor. He was great in Saltburn, but he's also not going to carry the same price tag that Austin Butler does. Good point. And right now, if you're Marvel and you're Disney, you have to be paying attention. I know that you guys are sick of me saying it, but it's very important. And I just keep beating this drum of budget.

If you can find a talented actor that can pull it off, as opposed to getting the big priced talent that you don't need for this role, you go with the really good actor for the smaller price tag. That's what I would suggest if I'm sitting in that boardroom. I tell you, no one's talking about. I think Austin would be great as Hal Jordan and Green Lantern. Yeah. Young, cocky, good-looking dude who, you know, gets this mantle thrust upon him.

He would be an awesome. And he might be waiting for a lead role. Francisco Lopez, one or two. Hey, guys, I finally watched the Iron Claw. I'm a wrestling fan. I knew about the Von Erick's, but, man, the way they depicts it is really sad. Oh, super, super sad. It's a tough, I mean, you know what's so funny is that that movie, when I, I, I mean, it absolutely, like, leveled me when I saw it in the theater.

but I've seen it. It keeps popping up. And my wife hasn't seen it. And it popped up somewhere else to, I can't bring myself. And I said this too. I can't bring myself to watch it again. It's a great movie. I can't do it.

It's too hard to watch. It's like, it's so depressing. Yeah, it's super depressing. And it's like, and I just don't know if I can watch it again. And it's, and I do think that Zach Ephron was, was, was, was, was, was, like, no nominations anywhere. Like, I get the argument of, of, of people going. well, you know, who should you take out if you're going to take somebody out of the Oscars?

Golden Globes, Sag, anything, like nothing, nothing? I mean, that was his best performance like ever. Yeah, 100%. And if nothing else, it kind of, for Zach, hopefully opens the door to other things. I guess I saw him, I saw him, I'm some people suggesting him for Cyclops. Look, that could be interesting. I like that idea. Yeah.

Yeah, that movie's on Max now. It's like One Flo over the Cuckoo's Nest and Schindler's List for me. are two films that absolutely decimate me and i can only watch it once like every few years and so i think iron claw is that same kind of thing and and they even left out one brother who committed what he's suicide and right right that could have even been more depressing for yes yeah um okay again guys thank you for all the questions i see i see more coming in just keep asking we're going to keep answering column phaeton uh premier player of the second season roca i'm going forward and hold on some mungom whoop

Phil Foden, yeah, Phil Foden, absolutely great player. Congrats to Man City. Fuck Arsenal. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, all that. And you didn't win a trophy? And you came in second place. Yeah, you're a couple of points above us. Second place.

Suck it. So I am happy that Arsenal didn't win a thing this season. Those fans are crazy, crazy. that's what I heard. All right. Next one. Francisco Lopez. And when Kevin said I used to be a brother,

and now I'm not a brother anymore. It was brutal. Yeah. Brutal. Yeah. It's very powerful, Phil. Yeah, man. Big thing.

Got my tickets this morning. 50-50, if it will be a hit because it's rated R. Only Joker has made a billion and four movies over 750. First to Deadpool include. I mean, that's it. It's. to I mean, that's one of the reasons why it's, it's a hard bet to make about the billion in general. But again, the bet was $750.50.

But it is still, the difference is that it also has an opportunity because of all the cameos and all those things, too. I know that people are worried about it's going to be a cameo fest, but don't forget the power of the cameo as far as box office dollar. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Okay. Well, if the cameos start leaking, too, people who hasn't been open to go. Yeah. I mean, look at the Henry Cavill cameo thing.

I would really love to find a way to get the actual number of what that movie would have done box office wise had it not had that cameo. You know what I mean? Yes, I do know what you mean. That got a lot of people in the theater. Spend that one. Anyway, yeah. Trader, turncoat. Dart tried watching Obi-Wan Kenobi again and it didn't get better with time.

Yeah, why can't Disney produce character-driven Star Wars? stories like the original trilogy or great shows out there like shogun i think well i mean i don't know what where you stand on this but i mean and or to me is a way that if they start approaching shows like that they can get there and i think and or proves that that and or is treated very maturely and and and or was treated in a way that was on par and a reason why it was nominated for all the types of awards that that it was and with acting and everything else too and um writing it was because it was it was handled like any other show like a house of the dragon or like a show gun or any of those types of things so you can but the problem is when you start like as i have a lot of respect for pheloni i don't

think he's the right guy to be running this whole thing um and i think that yeah i think that the obi ones even though he wasn't necessarily involved in that i think he's you know consultant on it and i think that the same thing with asoka no the the writing in obi one was was atrocious atrocious but um so it's just a matter of i think that It's their approach in general. It's just they have a different approach. Yeah, man, it's weird. I don't, I'm always of the place of like, Star Wars now just feels like a big blue balls tease.

It's just blue balls. You get this idea like, oh, my God, we're getting Kenobi back. But we're going to distract you with all these other storylines and not really get to it until the final matchup there. And it's a great fight, but did we build to it correctly? And Hayden is barely in it with all this talk about them coming back. and then the Asoka started, I rewatched the first two episodes the other day. It started out so strongly.

And then it just completely Peters as the show goes along. Wait, there's no big deal about Ezra being in this. Like, we're not even going to explore how long he's been out of here what he's discovered and that he's changed in any way. And so there's just so much that of unrealized potential in this. Bad writing. Bad writing. Because I think because they have to serve too many masters.

You have to make sure the pew, pew, pew, pew crowd is happy. You have to make sure the kids are cool. and they have to make sure you can keep enough of the adults. And Faloni, as you said, Faloni is no fan of Andor. I think it's very clear. But that's the route they need to go if they want to save Star Wars, but too many people don't want to go their route.

And there's a lot of fans who didn't like Andor because they don't like that isn't kid friendly and the Pew Pew Pew stuff, which is so frustrating. Because I agree with you, Christian, that's the way to save Star Wars. And they won't do it. They can actually make it. I mean, if you, and the other thing that I've been saying,

many times they have so many talented authors or whether it's like or Canon and stuff. 100% that a lot of times like you look at look at game of thrones game of thrones what did everyone say the reason why the series kind of dipped was when they lost the essence of those books yeah when they went off the books yeah and they have countless amounts of well written books and stories they haven't adapted a one right right one and they have a canon legends they're right in front of your face and you could turn many of them into films you could turn them into a Disney plus series you can turn them into mini series you can turn them into Disney plus movies they haven't touched a one it is an absolute it's I'm sorry it's a moronic it's a moronic decision that they've never even touched it it's because they're scared they just want to go with the safe stuff bro they rarely make that's why and or is such an that's safe that's about as it comes know what it comes down to and again in my opinion

is I don't think feloni and those has value that in the same way that look Lucas didn't value those books as much he never looked them as canon and i think that as much as there's a lot of things that i'm i'm grateful for that phloney takes the george lucas approach as far as storytelling goes i think there's a lot of stuff that he holds so close to the vest in the way that george looks at stuff that he doesn't allow himself outside the box and that's why i think he should be producing stuff directing stuff but he shouldn't be in charge of the whole thing i think that's great but you look at acolyte dude, that's an original thing. They're going down the path and trying.

Leslie Headlin is a damn good showrunner with some pretty hardcore stuff under her belt as a creator, yet all the Star Wars fans are already burying it. So how can you take chances when Star Wars fans are also a huge contingent of them with YouTube channels want to roll in and destroy it before they even see it? I want to see it. I want to see the show first. I want to see the show first because what I'm not in the same, I agree with you.

I agree with you on that. that that happens too, but let's also call the other side too, that there is that everything is awesome type crew, too, that's like, because it's a hundred percent and there's a lightsaber. Oh my God, there's a lightsaber whip. This is amazing. It's like, it's not. And it's like, and I've seen

people who are talking about how like this is the best time to be a Star Wars fan. I'm like, it isn't. Because, because for me as a Star Wars fan, I like the idea when everybody was on the same page, even the people who hate stuff now, like a lot of people, like look at Mandalorian season one. When Mandalorian season one came out,

It seems like everybody stopped fighting for a second. They're like, oh, this is actually making great stuff again. I was like, that to me is a great time to be, you know, in the Star Wars fandom because people are like, it's, it's like the Civil War is stopped when when people and people will always say, look at Marvel's phases one through three. Always had some, some people who didn't like Marvel. But for the most part, it was, that was a good time to be a comic book movie fan. Right now, not as much because it's, it's like on the decline. So when they start getting their stuff back in order, and maybe, look, maybe Ackleite's fantastic. Maybe it's great.

But I don't have much hope in it, but I hope that it's good. Yeah, I'm in the same place. I hope that it's good. I've been, I like what we've seen so far. I hope that it's good. Yeah. All right. Travis L. Marshall.

The rules. Don't agree with them always. Saving Private Ryan. What'd you say about Save Brian and Ryan? Well, I think it, I think Shakespeare and love deserve the best. All right. That's all I have for that. Sorry.

My favorite movie, man. I tell you, I tell you, I watched about an hour of it the other day on Pluto TV. Brother, I think I may need to do a rewatch. Okay, fair. You look, look at you. It's been a while. I want to know what kind of weekend you had this. Look at you.

Hey, man, we all go through things. We all wake up. Look at the maturity on the outlaw. Only to age, seven years. All right, let's, so, but he tries to be fair. I mean, he thinks you just proved that. love you brothers and rocks keep up the great work thank you Rob rocks very it was in here uh chrisson i don't think you saw she was in here at the beginning of the show

very nice roxy i didn't see um all right let's see let's go to the next but that's yeah watch save and private writing and if you can watch in surround sound that's how you do it fair point fair point yeah that's one of my favorite movies i've always felt that the first half an hour is so goddamn good that everything else afterwards pales in comparison but rewatching it again the hour that i watch this there's much more here than i remember. So yeah. Did you only, have you only seen it once before that? I've seen it like three or four times, but like way back way like decades ago. So like when it first came out. So okay yeah, like to see. I haven't revisited in a bit. Um, okay. This might be the last one. Maybe, maybe not.

Luke walks the sky. I also think that theater etiquette is the main problem we're having as well. Yes, absolutely. People that won't show up while the movie's playing, babies crying. Yeah. I mean, it's been bad for a very long time. Um, but people can be very selfish. And people can, you know, feel like, oh, if I got out of the house and I can, I can bring my kid with me. And it's like, no, but there's other people that you have to be thinking about. So, yeah, I agree with the theater etiquette stinks. It absolutely does.

I agree. Yeah. That boy, 22. If was great, felt like a live action Pixar movie. I love that. Okay. So you, like you said, John, we got some mixed, mixed reviews. It's certainly split.

Yeah. Okay. Luke walks this guy. Favorite part of the Tyson versus Jake Paul Press conference was Tyson making reporters nervous. So we always did. It was the best. old school, especially that one who called Tyson a gimmick.

He's like, what you call me? He's like I didn't call you nothing. What'd you call? That's exactly what you say. That reporter handled that exactly like he should have. Would you call me? Nothing. Didn't say anything.

What did you just say about me? I didn't say anything. 100%. That was so good. That's him dipping back in the old Tyson, which scared everybody, man. Tyson's a press conference. And he's just when he says to him, he goes, he's like, look, he's out of shape. He's supposed to be in shape.

He's not in shape. And then Jake Paul's like, well, you know, neither was just a bust or Duster Douglas. ain't no post the Douglas. So good. So good. Mike Joyce, New York crew will the L.A. crew be on less now?

No. Absolutely not. But what I want to do is I want to make sure that people for people who are like, oh, it's just going to be, first of all, John and I are the only stream yard channel on this channel, and that will be phased out because I am not a fan.

No offense stream yard, but I'm not a fan of stream yard at all. And I feel like I'll be doing more. I've just got to figure out how to do the COVID-S and everything. Well, the OBS, I know. know how to do i've been running the show with it's the live version of the obis i just got a

whole right a little bit more but um but i did my i did a show the other day with coy and and winston came out good i just got to fix coy's lighting um but but you know there's little things that we'll be moving on same thing we're going to end the other thing is we're going to have coy and winston in the same room we're going to have um i just have to figure out what to do like i might mix and match some of the some of the la crew for like because if i do one show probably i i got to figure it out, but we're still going to have the same crew. What'd you do with your house in the studio in your house? What did you do with your house? Do you sell

it? Did you rent it? Another conversation another time, yeah? Okay, all right. All right. Another time. The Dart double 05. Harloff, how did you celebrate Man Cities win? Oh yeah, I'm going to tell you exactly how I did. Who are you supporting

this summer? Copa America, will you be attending any of the blue? Yeah, uh-huh. That's exactly how I did. Jesus, I hope that was for me and he mistook you and put Harlow because my parents are Bolivia. Your parents are Bolivia. What would you care about Bolivia's games? I think he's either doing it for a goof or he messed up the name.

I like that. I love it. All right. So, Luke walks this guy. Hey, John, congrats to Juergen on a legendary run for Liverpool. Definitely in the conversation is one of the best men managers in football top two is carlo and salati enchilotti that close and pep gargolia they probably could meet them in the street here um but congratulations

whatever that means yeah urigan after nine years our manager retired or at least left oh okay i think i saw your post on that's all right all crying about it but yeah fantastic stuff galagos there he is fellas welcome to the east coast thank you as star wars fans did you see the jenny nicholson star cruiser bit i did not it's hysterical it baffles me how Disney expected folks to enjoy Spirit Airlines and space. Because you know what it is, dude? It's this idea, and this is where it comes down to it, where I think that there was a time,

and maybe they're realizing it's not anymore. I think they realize it now with the studio, it's actually like, oh, it's what's his face? Chapic did with Marvel. It doesn't matter. As long as it's Marvel, they'll watch it. As long as Marvel, they'll do it. It doesn't have to be.

It can be, scale it down just a little bit. Same thing. It's Star Wars. And it's, you could have, you see that conversation with the studio exec going, you could put a hot dog and color it red and call it the lightsaber hot dog and these people will eat it. Right. And that's the same thing.

It's a cruiser. We'll put stars on the thing. They'll spend thousands of dollars. And they said, the hell we will. It's a garbage freaking airline. It's a garbage cruise. It's got it out. And finally, maybe they're listening.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Luke walks the sky, Senor John, do you think Argentina will have the most pressure with the Copa America coming up? I need chat GPT to translate this to me. Then the World Cup in 2026, especially for Messi.

No, man, because they won a World Cup. They don't need it. They're good to win the Cup. If they win the Copa America is great, but they don't need it. Brazil won it in 2019. I think they're the ones who need it because they won a World Cup in a bit. So I think they're much more needing. So, yeah.

All right. Luce of Rock. F.F. Fantastic 4. Oh, thank you. Okay, so if I go back there to those three, what does better? Superman or Fantastic 4 is really nice. So I still take Jurassic World.

Yeah, I still take Jurassic World as well because, as I said, people don't know these. The cast of Fantastic 4 is great, but it's not a big, well-known cast in terms of, you know, it's not Tom Cruise and shit. So I think to me that's going to affect it, you know. Maybe, but I'm still going to go Fantastic 4 of a Superman. I don't want it. If you ask me what I want, I want Superman to be the top

one of the year. Using Jurassic World Superman Fantastic 4 is what you're saying. No, I'm saying Jurassic World Fantastic 4. Oh, oh, Superman. Gotcha, gotcha, got you. I still think the Marvel brand carries more power, even though it'll be

D.C.'s first big one. Superman carries a lot of power, obviously, but I don't know just yet. Okay. Don't know. Tiberius Monk. Christian and John, thanks for the great content. Thank you.

There you. I celebrated my 40th birthday and Mother's Day. Happy birthday. And I'd love to hear advice and turning 40. Keep up the great content for you both and take care. What I will say is the advice that I just had this conversation with someone else, too. Do not, no matter what, if you're turning 40, if you're turning 50, if you're turning 60, don't, and don't look at yourself and saying, oh, my God, I'm getting old.

Because when you are 50, Tiberians, when you're 50 years old, you're going to go, oh, my God, I wish I was 40 again. You know, it's like because when I remember when I turned. 30 and I was like oh my god I'm turning 30 right and I'm like wish I could be 30 for five more days you know what I mean and it's like so just enjoy every day it's it's it's it's cliche I know but just enjoy it enjoy it enjoy every single day of what you got in 40 40 years young I don't know I mean when I turn 40 I will let you know but I know for me for me yeah no I think Christian's right look this here's the thing you buy it's going to start breaking down you're going to have weird pains in weird places that you never thought before and you like you want to run to the doctor

relax um and just and eat better because you're not going to be able to burn it off like you used to stretch out more than you used to a lot of gas people are going to make funny deal with it because your body's going to feel better they're not going to be in your body so let them make fun of it who cares better yeah eat better eat better and walk i mean walk is massive at least half an hour yeah i was eating better until i this trip in new york i'll tell you that hey oh cowboys fan 92. Hey, John and Harleff. Here's my Deadpool 3 box office prediction for the first three to four weeks due to selling out plus hype. I'm calling it here. Over $3.9 billion. What? What? Three point nine billion? That can't be right. I don't think that's right. By the end of the week? No. Five? I can't. I can't. You can't. You can't know. Yeah. Well, then I will bet you. Will you, we, I'll make I'll make you a bet. If it if it makes three billion dollars, I will, I'll, I'll, I'll give you all my equipment in the studio. And if it doesn't, then you got to send my kids to college. If that's, if that's what that actual bet was. Um, Luke walks the sky top roaded top goaded rap albums to me is ready to die. And life after death from Bage. It's a great one. I really, you know, I really like liquid swords. I like a lot of stuff from just I mean, there's a lot of different ones too.

I was listening to old school Big Daddy Kane the other day, by the way. Oh, yeah, what big daddy cane? I love it. Okay, we do have a couple more left, actually. I was wrong. Francisco Lopez, what's your thoughts of the Diddy video and his apology? Well, I mean, disgusting on the video. Oh, my God, horrific.

Watch, I mean, we're sitting on the, watch, we're having a beer when we were talking at that bar, showing in the back, and it's just so brutal. And then the apology was just like, I know that some, like, Sometimes when someone makes an apology and the audience, you know, people will just jump at them right away and go, you just apologize because you got caught. You just apologize. You got caught. And sometimes I think that's harsh, not here.

Yeah. It's someone who said, all these accusations against me are false. Well, now this video. I'm sorry. And he never mentioned her once by name. Nope. Two weeks ago, he was defiant in that Instagram post. You're attacking my character.

But now he's like, hey, I did some therapy. you know, I see the error in my ways. And everybody's out there to go, and this is the narrative that I hate the most. Only God can judge me. Bullshit. Right. Everybody can judge you.

Right. Judges can judge you. Right. We have judges from county, local county judges. You can say, you can say, God is the only judge that I, that I care about. That's fair. You can say that, but you can't say that he's the only one who's allowed to. Yeah.

That's nonsense. Yeah. Chris Miller, Chris Minor, excuse me. Who wins King of the Rings? this weekend, Gunther. I don't know. Who do you got? I don't really care to be.

Gunther. Yeah, okay, fine. Gunther wins. Carlton Rudder, who earns more inside out or despicable me? That's a great question. That's tough. Brett and I and, well, Roxy, we're on the show, we're talking about it. It's so funny because Brett was doing predictions, and he predicted a lot of things wrong.

One of the things that he predicted, I figure which one, he said fall guy would be the biggest of May, but then he said, at one point the despicable me would eat it and then we started looking at the the box office and he started laughing and he's on i'm going to change my back because all these last few of them all made a billion dollars whatever i think despicable me i think it's one i think it's very similar to what i was saying with the Jurassic world it's like one of those movies it just has the magic behind it i don't know that all the new emotions are going to work so i think there's more of an x-factor of inside out to underperforming or not doing well versus despicable me doing well because it looks like they're

following the same formula. So I think despicable me definitely over and set up to me. Call me Jabba. Hey guys, I love the live episodes on Monday. I haven't heard you all talk about Bad Batch since it ended. Have you finished it? Thoughts? And follows it with ditch big balls. I'm sure that's kind of end well for you.

So as far as Bad Batch goes, no, I didn't finish it. It's one of those things. I mean, I'm going to get to it. I'll get to it, but I'm not. It was a show that I, every time I watch it towards it is the last few episodes i was i was into it and i said okay i'm i want to see where this goes but there's other things that i wanted to watch so i didn't continue with it did you finish it yeah we finished it we reviewed it on the jedi way uh laura kelly and smet and i we had a lot of fun reviewing it and this was the best season of bad batch and it was a lot of fun to watch it like the way

it ended i do think there was a little bit of a let down that assage was only in one episode and there was no no no there's some criticisms i had about it but overall i thought this was the bad batch we'd been waiting for. So I really like the season. That's what I would say. You want a criticism? I give you criticism. Oh, no.

When somebody calls in and says, ditch big balls. I'll tell you what. I put my balls in a ditch. You know what I'm saying, Rocha? You know what I'm saying, you sloppy ass. I didn't say anything. You know, I know, because you know, you don't want to mess with me, man. And neither call me.

These guys, some of these bastards, they say, get rid of big balls. Get rid of big balls. That's because they just can't get the pussy. me that's right yeah that's right you can shake your head but you know it's true i'm walking around and bars fucking that's all i do that's all i do and this guy wants to get rid of me eat my asshole wow wow strong statements he went really after wow it's calm down big ball easy that's one of my like big balls has turned into the fin stock of this era some people want to get rid of them some people want to want to keep them the more people that want to get rid of him the more he the more he shows up so

armada did you all see that logan the wolf wolverine short film that should do you imagine wolverine in the viking times no did you see it yeah it was incredible for a fan film my god i got it out all right i'll check it out definitely smiter also saw if very disappointing it look at you you're right i mean very very mixed very mixed so i'll check that out um okay mad sinister mccall saw zone of interest and it pissed me off. I wish Tarantino would rewrite history. What a good movie that was but disturbing. You couldn't watch it again.

Yeah, I couldn't bring myself to watch it in the first play. It was too tough. I heard great things about it, but I couldn't do it. Damn good movie. Same director did Sexy Beast, which we just finished covering on the Cineophiles and John the Glazer's good director. The movie is rough to watch.

But yeah, that's a movie that I'm probably never going to see again, maybe one more time. Yeah. Because of the subject and the materials. So yeah, I agree. There's a tough ones to watch. There's another one that I would add. As I said, Carlton Rudder.

John, if you need something for your channel, hit me up. In a reference to last week, while I'm at the bar, I'll have a coat. I don't drink. Amazing. Nope. Well, yeah, next time, my friend. Next time. Thank you, Carlton. Rogha.

Yo, Owen. Haskell. Hey, guys. D&W. Thursday, B.O. production. It would be. 25 mil. No.

Oh, Thursday. Thursday box. prediction. I'm going to go higher. I'm going to say 30. I'm going to say it's that big. I'm going to go 20. Okay. Fair enough. I'm still kind of hesitating. All right, all right. Luke walks to sky. I got my three tickets this morning at nine, one for each format. I'm super optimistic, especially with how Ryan treats this IP, him and Sean I have faith. Yeah, I think that's one of the, that is absolutely a factor as far as why there's so much hype behind it because of the love that goes into it in the same way that

that question was asked about Star Wars. It seems like there's way more handling of this IP than it is over there. Never lose your nerd. Got my tickets in Dolby. Let's go. Absolutely. Do it. Go for it.

Gallagost. Disney needs to make a dash render series. Yeah, I mean, look, it's one of those things you're not going to be able to sell that off of like the name itself. But if you, Disney needs to make a well-written show again.

That's what they mean. Johnny Patricea. Hey, Roka. How was your trip to Antfield? How do you feel about Aaron Slopping the new manager? hopefully Arsenal can get the job done next year hopefully not I hate Arsenal I love Arns Slot I think I think it's a great follow-up to Eurgan and yeah we went to Anfield in 2019 as a pilgrimage The Lady Outlaw and I she's a huge Liverpool fan as well and we had a beautiful time there

It's a wonderful city I want to go back for a whole week and just enjoy Liverpool such a beautiful city man Elusive Rock tinfoil hat time sigourney weaver is grief-stricken Marge 8 I need a rough and tough Sigourney with a lightsaber hunting down Ray I don't think it'll ever happen again because like I said, George Lucas didn't like marriage aid, and I think that Dave Filoni will stick to that. Yeah, as an extension of Lucas, he will keep that, yeah. Luke walks the sky, opposed to X-Men 97 in that Bo de Merro is a super fan of these characters. You have Tony Gilroy who isn't really immersed in the lore, but he's surrounded with people who are and he listened. That's the major point.

That's the major point there even when, you know, like if you try to go off on your own and just say, well, you know, I'll do Star Wars this way, as opposed to like, don't understand this, but I know these people who I hired do. Right. Does it make sense for me to put artifacts back here? It does. Okay, cool. Will you guys put artifacts from like the error? I don't know the error.

So can you guys do that? And they did. Like that's how it works for sure. Yeah. Like I say all the time, sports and film business are much more connected people think. You have a manager or director who has one way of doing things. And no matter who the personnel is, they're going to do it that way. And sometimes you have terrible results.

Yeah. Better manager as a manager who understands their way of doing things, brings in people who understands the culture of the team before and finds a way to mix it in together to get the optimal results every time. And so I think that's the way to go about it. Ed Haskell. Big thing live. Patreon reminder, 4 o'clock Eastern.

That's right. Brett and I are going to be doing a show. I don't know how long it's going to be. It might be because we're going to do this. I got to pre-tape a show with Riley today for tomorrow. But we're going to do. You're doing live one today? we're going to do a live on patreon yeah this one's for roca uh christian what you do with your

out there somewhere it's out there somewhere um mad citizen mccalla what candy bar are you getting with this super chat we have two dollar super snickers that's my that's my that's my favorite i like frozen yeah i do the uh almond snickers that's my new favorite peanut butter as well uh jmb Congrats two man city four person's home perfect way to go John way to go bring that into the zeitgeist Luke walks the guy moving back to either New Jersey or New York in two months I'm just excited to be in the east coast and as I'm excited to do my best by watching and I appreciate it and you've been super super supportive here today very very kind of you all have been and oh look speaking of which is Luke walks this guy that's why biggie doesn't have a lazy eye he was just

keeping his eye on it's funny that's funny right i like that one too look at whatever you got roca on that one damn look at you pretty look at luke you just broke roca damn oh my god he follows it up as always christian thank you for bringing inspiration for my aspiration to open a youtube channel you're welcome thank you for being such a great uh contributor here today

and in general thank you i will eventually will contribute to your advenous on list i appreciate that very much and for anybody who asks like i it's just it's always the first thing i put in the description, but it's like, it just sits there. And for anybody who's able to help, that's super, super, super kind. Thank you. Shogun review done, hopefully before season three premieres.

Now, I mean, I've been doing this trip. I've been doing this trip. I probably will get into, you know, I have to finish it and I will do a review, but I promise. I really, I want to finish it. Okay. Prong what a rocca seems like one cool cat today, only today. Christian, you had balls to do big balls with the outlaw. Oh, yeah.

It's the only one, but it's the only one that can talk smack. Roker knows. Big Ball is the only one who can talk smack to Roke. Yeah, he's scared of him. I don't feel like getting into it. Yeah, I wouldn't, because you can't win with that guy. No, you can't. Luth of Rock.

Stay sweaty. Hell yeah. It's like Kendrick Lamar, man. He finds all your personal stuff. He doesn't care because he knows what are you going to do. You can throw him out of his house. He lives in a tree. He does.

He does. All right, that's it. We did it. Thank God. Thank you. Thank you to everybody here who joined us. John, where can they find you, man? Tell us.

Oh, yeah. You can always find me at the Roka says on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok, the Outlaw Nation on Twitch. My YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Roker says, come and sample the content, the hot mic, the geek buddies, the Jedi way, my reviews, my reactions, all the things that we have going on there on the channel. Please come and hang out with us. And more coming, for sure. So YouTube.com slash John Roker says or just type in the Outlaw Nation and John Roka. There you go. All right, John.

Thank you, guys. See you next time for Roker. We'll be back next Monday. For you guys, I'll be back here. here tomorrow with Mark Riley. We're going to be doing our UAP Tuesday on Wednesday. Wednesday show will be myself and Matt Sarah. That will be a show here live in studio. Thursday will be a live in studio show with me and Brett. And then Friday, most likely, will be an LA in studio show with me, Winston and court. So that is what I got going on the channel this week. And as I say, always,

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