The Kristian Harloff Show - DESTINATION D23 RECAP! Tron, Avengers: Doomsday, Mandalorian And Much More!

Episode Date: September 1, 2025

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It's a lie. I didn't know it was happening until I found out this weekend. I was walking around in the village with my family this weekend in the city and I ran into, well, I'm not going to say I ran into because I didn't say anything to the person, but there was a, there was a very famous person that walked right by me. And normally I'll walk over to the person and I'll say, Hey, Meyer, you work.

The person was with their significant other walking around. It was my wife who's never like this. Like, you're going to regret this if you don't say something. I was like, nah, I don't want to bother the person. You can guess who it is. And then Roka and I will talk about it. Box office is doing some special stuff. That's a lie.

The studio is nervous about the box office. Clayface starts shooting. That and more. Tons of stuff to discuss on. this special show here today with myself and John Roka. Let's get into it, everybody. It's a Christian Harloff show today. Here, it is Monday, everybody.

That's right. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the show here today. It is Monday, and this holiday. And I hope you guys are enjoying your day off. And if you are enjoying your day off listening to us, I can't thank you enough. I am also very grateful that my co-host today, Roca is able to do the show. John, what's going on? Thanks for joining us on this holiday. Happy Labor Day, everybody. Thank you for having me. I'm having fun. And look, there's no rest for

the weary. We work holidays. This is the job of a YouTuber, man. So I'm happy to be on with you to talk about all the things going on. And hopefully we have a lot of people joining us who are taking a day off to relax and have us entertain them. I hope so. We've got a lot going on. So, yeah, there's tons of stories. We'll talk about the D23 stuff. We'll talk about the the box office, the Clayface stuff. So I want to see if the audience can actually guess that I, I haven't told you. I was the only person I told was Luke when I was,

I was walking in the city. We went, it was my wife's birthday is next week. So she wanted to go to Soho. And so we took the kids, we took the subway on, the subway to the Loner Railroad to the city. We walked. Actually, it was a beautiful day. I mean, it's just beautiful. And we were walking, you know, the little one's got those little legs, but she was still,

she had to carry her some blocks, but we did like a, from Penn Station's about a 27-minute walk, right? But it's beautiful. It's nice walking through the shops. We finally get there. And right as we get there. So a very, very famous person is with their significant other. And I, and so my wife and my kids are on the corner, and I see the person coming.

And I go, oh, my God, that's so-and-so. Right. And I go in my head, do I say anything? I'm like, no, it's a nice day. I want to, and the person's with their significant other, clearly, walking around, I don't want to bother them. And then I say to my wife, that's so on. And she goes, it is?

She's like, you got to go, you got to go say something. And I go, I can't. I go, she's like, why? It's not like you. I go, I don't want to ruin their day. So you think you can ruin their day? I know, but I say, you know what? It's not ruining the day.

I don't, I don't want to do that right now. It'd be nice. but and she said you should at least grab a picture. I said, I'm not going to do it. I just, I just don't want to do it. You want to take a guess who it was, John? New York? Yeah.

Robert De Niro. No, it's a good guest though. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's a good guess. Pacino, am I getting closer? Is it younger? Much younger. I will tell you that one of those people you just mentioned did a movie with this person.

Oh. Well, it can't be Julia because she was promoting the film. And my, and my wife would have, would have noticed and there's no world I wouldn't have said something to Jim your heart seen. I would have said I would have said

Scorsese? Is it Martin Scorsese? You're in the neighborhood. You're in the neighborhood. Well, Leota's passed on. Joe Pesci? Was it Pesci? You're going to New York. You're going to New York. All right. Sharon Stone. I said you're Scorsese. You're in the Scorsese neighborhood.

stay in that neighborhood, but get out of New York. Ooh. It's a big one. It's a really big one. Yeah. DeCaprio? Was it Decaprio? Also did a movie with this person. That's how big this person is. All right. I'm done guessing. I guess so many.

So I'll give you, so basically the other day, we did, um, we did a, um, a reaction that has not come out yet because that's tomorrow. So Sam and I watched Memento for the first time. and it was the day before. So the next day, Christopher Nolan and his wife walked by me. Get out of here. Nolan.

Nolan walks by and I'm going. And everything, I just didn't want to bother the man. I just didn't want to bother him. I was like, I mean, like, you know,

it's right here in front of me. And I'm like, you know, I should have said something, but I was like, nah, he was, he could tell.

He was, it was such a nice day. And him and his wife were walking through the city. And I'm like, let him enjoy his day. I'm sure he's going to get hit by people to And he would have been, and he would have found, the thing of what I would have said to him was literally,

just watched Mento yesterday. I cannot wait for the Odyssey. But I know, there's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong. I could have done it. I just did not want to bother the man. He had a smile on his face walking through the city talking to his wife. And maybe I interrupt the conversation that they were in the middle of having.

Right. And maybe I disrupt a creative idea by going up there. I don't want to be responsible for that. I don't want to have that. He's a creative idea. That's also true. he is used to it all right you know i know he is we've tasted a little sample of what it's like to be noticed in public or whatever and you know from what we've done and so a little small sample

but you know it's always nice to get recognized if people approach you in the right way so you being in the movie space with the following you have i don't i'm sure he wouldn't have been i'm sure he would have been cordial i'm sure he would have been grateful i'm sure he would have But like I said, I just, it was, it just in my, in my space, because I'm normally, my wife's right. Normally I'd be like, hey, I just want to let you know. And I wouldn't be like, oh, I'd be like, yeah, I just want to let you know. I just did this. And I'm so excited for the Odyssey.

But I'm telling you, man, it was just one of those moments where you're sitting there with his way, Emma, and they're walking through the city. And they're looking up there. And it was a beautiful day. And I'm like, no, I'm enjoying it with my family. He's enjoying with his wife. And I said to her, I said to my wife, I go, it's just cool that I saw. Yeah. It's just cool.

It's very true. You know what I mean? Like that, like that, that to me. Now, I have that. Instagram doesn't have that, you know. Right, right, right, right. Right. The show today doesn't have that.

But it was, it was awesome. It was awesome. You know what a really fun way in is you, if you've gone up to his wife, go, Oh my God, are you. I love the movie. Excuse me, sir. I don't know. I don't know who you are, but you're a great producer.

You're amazing. And she is. And I mean, I recognize. Obinaima. I would have, I would have said a load of both. But like I said, I just wanted him to enjoy it. Anyway. So that was it. That was my, that was my, that was my, that was my, that was my, that was my, that was my day. It was hilarious. Someone said, yeah, Nolan didn't want to bother me. Yeah, right. That's it. That's it. That's it. I saw you stand in there, but I didn't want to bother. Anyway, he doesn't know about you. I mean, like Schmo's knows, been around forever and then and then Collider and, you know, and I don't think these people pay attention to that shit, man. Some of them. Some of them do. Not Christopher Nolan. And nor should he, nor should he. He is, he's the man. He's my, he's my, he's, he's, he's my, he's, he's, he's

I'm that's and that's why it was so far I did text Sam I text actually told I told Luke and I told Sam because oh nice Sam had never seen the only the only Nolan movie Sam has ever seen and doesn't remember it is the dark night it's the only one she's ever seen oh the fuck you don't remember the dark night she remembers she remembers he ledger she remembers bits and pieces but she doesn't remember the story itself so we're we're starting a Nolan journey and we just hit memento and I said and this is how adorable Sam is when it comes to this stuff too she goes because she was like because we watched memento and she loved it she goes no is a boss right and then i go and i tell you i said i just saw i just saw nolan and she goes oh right after

we watch a year's real suspects and i was like no no no that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not right right right but um so she's gonna and we're doing we're doing batman begins next nice so we're going batman begins then she'll rewatch dark night and then she's never seen rises then we're going to do inception and we're going to do interstellar so she's in nolan world then we just did back to the future with step we launched that over the weekend. Yeah, yeah. Right.

Winston's never seen Major League. I'm going to watch that with him. He's never seen, he's never seen Last Dragon. Oh, wow. Yeah, so we're going to watch that. You and I are going to find some TV to do. Chris Carr just told me that she's got a,

there's, she's got a lot of time to, she never seen Gladiator. Oh, wow. Someone asked me, we're going to see Insomnia. Insomnia is just not a movie to react to. It just isn't. I like it.

It's really a movie, but it's just, there's nothing, there's nothing to it. I can barely see. I can. can't sleep anymore yeah so insomnia is not going to be one that we react to um although i do think people would be into it because robin williams man and his passing i know but i'm i just don't know if that's one people are like i'll listen i'm sure i'll be honest i'm always open and honest with the of the audience i the usual suspects reaction yeah did okay i thought it would crush people don't like

singer anymore man it has nothing to do it's one the greatest it's one of the dude it's one of the greatest twists and singer and spacey i guess but i mean i guess that the yeah i guess but the end is just so amazing someone who's never seen it before to see sam's reaction is exactly what you wanted to be for that one of the greatest twist of all time i agree um so either way i was like i was but and back the future did okay yeah not too bad uh i was shot i f1 is climbing f1 i introduced ming to the audience we've got so much coming up with i mean so many different reactions we're going to be shooting all this week and probably i mean eventually i think we're going to get to one reaction a day and we're going to do seven a week um that's the goal so it's a lot it's a lot it's a lot

and i actually did you watch peacemaker season uh episode two episode two yes i liked episode two better than one i did huh i didn't like to no i think tim metals was completely miscast i i think there was some i i don't disagree with you that i thought there were a couple times um that it felt like a different show what he was doing. Yeah. I think Kegan Michael Kee would have killed a role like that. And I think it's not, I think Tim's funny, but it's, I don't think that I think that role was just a little bit past him and Kegan Michael Kee would have killed it. I also thought the bird blindness stuff was corny as hell. And I like, jokes were a little ridiculous. I got to kick out. I, I did laugh pretty hard when he said pony boy tits or whatever he calls her. I think, I think that stuff works

as long as it has to go both ways like they didn't have a nickname for him and i wish they'd had a nickname for him so yeah yeah yeah i don't disagree with there it's and it's it's it's very similar to me of what i said about the first episode i like the core story yeah yeah i like the core story but there's still there i think that the jokes in two even though they were i don't disagree with you at all that's the tim meadow stuff seemed a bit forced yeah and there were some stuff in the a lot of the stuff in the with the team yeah it didn't work and I agree with you I mean gift like yeah and I think that for me it's the story outweighed those that I I got past it and I don't agree with you again like as you said last week it's the emotional stuff when he nailed it he really nails it's worth episode yeah because

the hardcore stuff is really working for me um the stuff on the roof was great when he's when he's freaking he's still the best what's his name uh oh my god oh my god i can't uh freddie freddie oh yeah yeah Stroma, vigilante. Vigilante. Vigilante's up on the thing, and she, he goes, how'd you get, how did you get up my roof? It's like the fire scape.

She's like, don't come up here and use my fire. I'm just laughing at her. It's like, crazy. Where do you come over this stuff? And then he throws the beer bottle and it hits the wall. And then he throws it again, and he drops it. Like that kind of shit.

That's the kind of humor. I love. And that was the consistent stuff that worked. There were a couple of times that I was like, oh, it didn't land. That's why I think casting is so important. in James Gunn's world. And James Gunn is usually great at casting. And I think he missed it with Tim because I think Keegan Michael would have made the freaking birdblindness stuff work. I think he would

have made all the whole thing about two women, you know, doing what to do and doing him massaging, the ginger cool stuff. All of that worked really. It would have been funnier. And I think the nicknames thing wouldn't have been as, you know, hey, I'm trying to be irreverent. It would have been a little more funnier. And so I think that's where the mistake comes. You've got to be, you've got to be good enough to fit in to Gunn's world to get his comedy right and i don't think he did it might be i don't think yeah there a couple times for sure i just again the story for me is is is is working like where they're going with it um but yeah i hope this i hope some of the i hope they can balance the jokes in the way that did that their rooftop seems incredible it was incredible it was so and i agree with you and i want to make this

really clear on a platform this large like i know people come after me for my feelings on james gun i have no issues with jennifer hall and i think i think she's great i love that they're giving her more to do on the show and i said this over and over again she is the one person I defend strongly here because people come after her for all these reasons. She's excellent. And I love that they're giving them more to do on the show. Yeah, a lot, a lot.

Okay, let's talk about D23 because everybody knew D23 was going on this weekend. Sure they did. Let's talk about this. I don't even know what it really is. Because apparently it wasn't really D23. It was D23-adjacent. I don't freaking know.

Avengers Joomsday reveals from D-23 that are actually fake so you don't get fooled. So the amount of information that made it's possible to keep track of what's real, it's fake. I don't even know if this is freaking, what the hell? D23 finds itself in the spot right now because it provided an update on the upcoming MCU film Avengers Doomsday with the movie still well over a year away. Powers at B or mean tight-lipped not wanting to put the cart before the horse,

however, it's not stopping inaccurate information for making the rounds. Avengers Doomsday reveal from D-22 that extra fake. I don't need that. I need some, I need some story here about what actually is happening on D-23. and nobody knows what's actually happening. Because it's like, these are fake stories. One of the real stories.

You know what? Let's do this. John, what that'll happen to D23? Because I don't know. Did anything happen at D23? There were some titles announced animation-wise. Right.

There's apparently a Coco sequel that they're working on Cocoa, too. I don't understand why you would do a sequel that movie. Why not? It was successful. So great. Let it be on its own for what. Oh, I don't know about that. We'll see what happens.

but there's something called Hex that's coming as well. And then Avengers Doomsday, it was just Paul Rudd introducing some stuff with the Russo brothers there, all on video, not in person. And it was just a bunch of lines from previous Marvel movies. And there was rumored to be some poster that came out. I haven't verified if the poster's accurate,

but it has like this kind of barrier blocking all the MCU people, and Doom is sitting on his throne staring at them. And so that's basically, Basically, a lot of what was the big news coming out of D23, but there wasn't much, man. I mean, a lot of people didn't even know this was happening. Crazy, crazy. So in years past, D23 would get hyped up as much as like we do Comic-Con specials.

We would do D-23 specials. And as D-23 became like Disney's Comic-Con, the presentations are used. Sometimes they replicated exactly what they did at Comic-Con and did it at D-23 for those people who didn't see it, and then they did more. I remember one of the ones that we went to in 2022 or whatever it was. And they showed Avatar too. And they didn't even show Avatar at this one. I feel like they dropped the ball tremendously on this because, hey, no hype whatsoever on it.

I don't know what they're going to do, if anything, at Comic-Con. And if so, if they wind up doing a lot at Comic-Con, do they even have a panel of Comic-Con? Wait, we did Comic-Con. That's past, for a way. That was a past. Yeah. I'm out of the loop.

So they didn't do anything at Comic-Con. They did nothing at D-23. Now, there's two things here. one, I actually think it's a smart thing for them not to do D23. My thoughts, I'm sorry, ComicCon, my thoughts on Comic Con has been very, I've been very vocal about it. I think it has a loss of money for studios. I don't think it makes sense.

However, I think it makes sense when it's your own thing and you're promoting it. I get it that the primary goal is to promote the parks. I get it. But it is, this is your con. This is a Disney con. This is one of the few places. You have so many damn IPs and you get so much that you can do that you can, you're spending the money on the event anyway.

If you're spending the amount, then yes, you're probably spending a little extra if you're going to bring talent in. But I remember going in 2011, 2012 with Ellis. And Adina Mansell sang, let it go for the first time anywhere. Yeah. And I remember going, oh, that's going to be a big song. And just sitting in the theater. I remember the Rock coming out and doing the Moana stuff and all that. I am surprised that this just kind of came and went with nothing.

And I wonder, why do you think that is, John? I just think people are kind of burnt out. Plus, it's like, it's August, man. We just had a really strong July. And I just think people have done the Comic Con thing. I don't think people are interested in this stuff anymore. It's like, if it's not in front of it, if it's not on YouTube, I don't think there's people anymore who are like, oh, I'm missing out.

Like, I just think people are not that interested anymore in this stuff and the levels that they were. Like, there was new Mandalorian and Grogu footage. Is anyone talking about it? Not really. There was a new light cycle chase scene from Toronto, Aries. Is anyone talking about it? Not really. So it just feels like people were, it's a vacation weekend. I think this was the wrong time to do this thing. There was footage from Mandelorean and Grogo. Yeah, yeah. There's a little bit of footage that they showed. No one's talking about.

Nobody's talking about it. And so it's like, and it sounds like pretty cool footage if I had been there. But I just think people like if it's not on YouTube and I can't see it. Fuck them. I don't care about it. And I think that's fair. People are coming to the point now more and more that like if it ain't in front of their faces and you don't put in front of their faces, they're not going to give it the attention that it would normally get. not the feeling of, oh, I'm missing out or exclusivity of any of that. That stuff's dead. That's part of why Comic-Conns, the main Comic-Conns are falling apart. The smaller ones are growing, but the big ones are falling apart. Because people are like, if I can't make it, I'm not going to pay that much attention to it, you know? Right.

And it's true. I remember when they used to do, and I wonder also, too, I just know that there's been certain, like, there have been publicists that at Disney that really understood the virtual space and not only from YouTube critics. influencers, if you will, like really got it. And I think that there are some that do over there, too, I think there's younger people over there as well, too, but I don't know if the focus is that anymore from what I've seen or heard of.

And just whether it's right or wrong, I don't know. But it just, it seems like I remember when all of colleagues would be, oh, yeah, this thing, covered this thing, the press section. And they very well might have had that this year. but like I said, I'm like Jermaine Lucierge who would be, did he tweet about it? I usually always see his tweet. I don't even know. I don't see, I didn't see his tweets or anything too.

So interesting that they didn't really put a big press on this. I think that there is something about exclusivity and that nobody caring as much and they maybe should have. I do think that that whole thing of, hey, we're going to show it just to this audience. I think that should go away. Yeah, I agree. Look at the man doing Groger's stuff. like if this was force awakens time people were going crazy about whatever footage was available but i also think people burnt out by the star wars so you put this out and you're like oh this footage

i'll wait till i see it like right i don't want to get all hyped up let me see the footage when it gets released then i'll yeah there's not as much hype behind it now too because it's a disappointment i'll tell you though and i think you talked about it a lot on hot mic and other things too is um the last uh not the last but what's it what's it called start just starfighter now yes the starfighter yeah yeah That movie is getting the most hype and excitement. Oh, yeah. Between the, because look at the cast they're putting together. Like everything that they're doing with that movie right now,

that seems to be the gem right now. And not only the cast. Yeah. Like, look, I mean, they got, what's this dude who shot F1 and Toplin Averick shooting it? I think this one, this one could be special, John. I don't know. Yeah, I think you're right, Chris. And I think it's fascinating about Starfighter.

It's doing something that I don't think we've ever. seen in a star wars approach to a movie especially now in that it it's saying that it's not connected people suspect that it might be connected because it might be ray that he's handed the kid off to but it feels like a singular film within a universe that is very interconnected and that's a very rare thing to like marvel did in three three yeah yeah kind of yes exactly and so people almost feel like it's a it's not a star wars movie but it is a star wars movie you know right on levy and ryan gossack it's unusual the level of talent that they're they're attracting at the status level that they're at yes we've had you and natalie in the past but this is something that's completely

different with ryan and all of these people that are attached to it it just feels like this is a bit of a one-off and so people are judging it from that prism instead of judging it as another star wars and i think that's smart move if it does well it ain't going to be a one-off I'll tell you that. Well, fair point. It might not be. Now, Ryan Gosselin, they're probably making sure that, hey, if this does why, you got to come back.

So, Joker. Like, Joker was supposed to be a one-off, right? And do its own thing. And it made a billion dollars, even though it's in, technically considered a DC character and maybe a DC, else world's universe or whatever, but he made a billion dollars at a time when DC was floundering. So this could totally be that, you know? Yeah, it could.

I mean, but I think that the difference, though, between, like, the Joker was, made the different i think the major difference with that i understand what you're saying but the difference with joker was it was made for what 30 40 million dollars they weren't even pushing it because they didn't even think it would do very well they didn't know what it was they weren't putting eggs in that basket if you will you know this movie that put the eggs in the basket because they're hoping and they're going i mean you don't put amy adams Aaron pierre brian gossel you don't put this kind of cast with that kind of team together without saying hey this movie does well people care we want you guys back And I think you're right.

I think that it's also going to probably, if they're smart, if they're smart, which they haven't been in the last 10 years, but if they're smart, they will come up with a plan and say, okay, Kinberg,

listen, what's your trilogy about? We know, right? We know there's a treatment to it, apparently. There's a treatment for all three of these movies. Right.

How can we connect that, as you said before, John, this movie to that trilogy, so people care, and that's an advertisement to get them in the theater for the next one. If you can combine some of these characters with this

and not just put everything on Daisy Ridley's shoulder, give us some new characters that we care about, connected to this trilogy, let them interact and now get excitement around it. But whether or not they do that, I don't trust them enough to think that they could. Yeah, but you look at what DC just did, right? And with one movie,

they've awoken people's excitement about the brand again. Sure. And but the difference is they change. changed creators. They changed the people who were in charge of this stuff. That hasn't happened at Star Wars, really. Even if you move Faloni and carry back in those positions, you're still maintaining the old guard. And so I wonder if they can revitalize the brand with kind of the same people in charge with Mandelaar and Grogu and with Starfighter. We'll see, man, because they need it. The one-two punch, they need it. They do. So we do have a little

bit of a breakdown a little bit on what they did at D23 here. Check this out. All right. So Disney, some of the stuff that they teased here. They teased Toy Story 5, Hext and more, as John was mentioning before, Hext. All right, Walt Disney Animation Studios for me of the title and first details for its latest original film, Hext, during a presentation, R.D23, a journey around the world at Disney and Florida. The film follows an awkward teenage boy and his type,

a mom who discovered that what makes him unusual might just be magical powers that will turn their lives in a secret world of magic upside down. Jose Trinidad, Thutopia, and Jason Handam on. Two are set to direct the film while Roy Conley and Juan Pablo Reyes, Lancaster Jones, that's a name. That's seven names. The film is set to open November 26th. It's one of a number of titles showcased at the presentation. New footage from Hopper screened along with confirmation that Patrick Warburton, Seinfeld fame, will voice Mayor Wind Dancer in the Zootopia sequel with Yvette Nicole Brown will voice both EMT Otter and Baroness Bear.

Paul Rudd showed up with the Rousseauce to tease Avengers Doomsday, but nothing was showing all besides the three men standing behind some bushes. The loss in the shot. Okay. The biggest highlight was the first look, images at the villains of the upcoming Toy Story 5, including the kids tablet, Lily Pat, the Codin-Obrin, voice potty training,

toy, smarty pants, and a malfunctioning buzz light, your army. There's some of the stuff here that's Hext. It's kind of cool. I mean, this is the stuff that they always did at D23. They show you some art, other things too. But Toy Story 5, yeah. You know, you got Toys Toy 5, we got Incredibles 3 coming out, got Zutopia 2.

Zootopia 2 is going to be a massive movie. Yeah. That's got a shot at being a billion, as we have repeated many times over, especially after watching that with my little one for the, really for the first time over the weekend. It's like, she's like, I want to see this number two in the theater. It's like, you get kids in that theater. You get kids in that theater, and you're going to get, you got a shot to get to a billion. You got a shot.

So we shall see. Yeah. I would argue the animation rule of the day at the day. D23 and animation doesn't have the same impact as live action stuff, not trying to be offensive to animation stuff. It just doesn't. And so I'm not surprised it's more of a muted response to D23 as well. Well, either way, D23, like I said, kind of came and went. Uh, anything pop out. You guys, do you know they should still do this event? Should they put more focus on it? What say you? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. Okay. I'm going to tell you guys about both prize picks

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Um, do something. PLD. Yeah, something. John, yeah. Are we not going to talk about Florida State beating Alabama? Oh. Oh, I shouldn't do the chop. I'm getting mad.

31.7. What a game. What a game. My dad calls me. He's like, you watch the game? He's like, in the city. He's like, come on. I was like, I was like, it was in the city, but I was paying attention to it. So, there you go. How dare you? I mean, no, the lady outlaw knew that it was the first day of college football. She left me all alone all day. She knew. I was a mess at that game, just yelling and screaming and excited. It's a big, that's a big thing.

And I was watching, yes, me this part. Of course, they were giving credit. They were talking about what Alabama did wrong. Right, of course. They did good. Right. So, either way. We got more stuff to talk about and a lot of stuff to talk about, actually, too.

And we're going to have, we got to talk to. What's that? When are we moving on to what you know what I want to talk about? I know. We're going to do that now. We're going to do that now. I think this is the one you want to do now. The one you sent me, right?

Mm-hmm. Okay. Because the box office, we can talk about soon and we got, and there's another thing that apparently that I just found out, too, that Mortal Kombat got moved to 20. We'll discuss this. Oh, yeah, over the weekend. This is the one.

John used to be a big Dwayne Johnson, the rock fan. Now he's a turncoat. And so he always sends me stories, never sends me good stories, always sends me stories that he wants to poop on. Because it's expected for him to be good. All right, so check this out.

This is from discussing film. And Dwayne Johnson says he is now starting to make movies for himself, rather than focusing on box office numbers. I looked around a few years ago, and I started to think, am I living my dream, or I living other people's dreams? dreams. And I guess that's, is there more of a link there? No. Is he slimmer now? That's interesting. Is that real? Oh, wow. Interesting. All right. What do you hate about this? What are you talking about? Let me guess why you hate. Let me, let me guess because I know you well enough. Okay. You think that this is, he realized that his movies haven't been doing good lately. Yes. So he's now saying, oh, you know what? It's everybody else's fault.

And instead of me just taking ownership that I'm making some bad movies, I'm going to now say that why am I doing this? I got to do this for myself and not other people. There's a great song from the 19th. Well, not great. I want to say great. There's a song from the 1970s that people make fun of now. And it was a female empowerment song.

And it's like, I've been to all of these places, but I've never been to me. And it sounds like that's what The Rock is saying now, that he has, he did films for everyone else and I didn't do films for myself. Never mind that all the reports from the set are how everything went the way Dwayne wanted it to go, how there were things in his contract that he couldn't be knocked out. He had to win every fight he was in, that people waited for him while he peed in bottles to get on set and do the things that he did. But no, guys, I've been doing films for other people. Now it's time to do films for me. Get on the fuck out of here with this nonsense. Look, I love Dwayne. I love him to pieces. But as I said before, I will never.

not call him out when he's acting the fool or pushing these nonsense narratives. And you know he's WWE through and through, man. And this is a storyline. And I think the slimming down is part of it as well. He wants to be relatable instead of superhuman. So he knows he's taking it on the chin and his PR team is adjusting. And they're smart people. I've interviewed him a couple times.

I've talked with his people over at 7 bucks. There's some really smart people there. They think this is the narrative to go with. Rock's taking it on the chin. Let's turn him into an underdog. one of the most successful possible billionaires in the world. Let's turn him into an underdog

and it's laughable. Well, he's not a billionaire yet, but I understand what you're saying. He's almost there. I don't know. Yeah, I doubt that. I think he's probably, if you do his,

if he's worth $200 million, but I don't think he's close to a billion, but $200 billion is a lot of money. Yeah, how much is he worth as you work? I'm going to look it up because I'm going to, I'm going to guess I'm going to say $275 million. He is net worth is $800. million dollars. Wow.

You're close. Close. All right. You're closer than I was on that one. All those businesses. It isn't just that. That's true. That's true. I just bought some of his clothes this weekend at Under Armour for the movie. I love the rock. I mean, that's much of a turn coach. So there is, I think there's a lot of truth in what you're saying, but I also think that there's also some smarts and what he's doing, right? Because it's like there's a part of it that says, okay, yeah.

Look, man, just say, I've been doing big box office movies. I really enjoyed myself on the smashing machine. I challenged myself. I want to go this road. I liked what I did in the past. I had some big movies, but I really caught the bug when I was doing. I feel like that's what happened.

I feel like there's, well, two sides of it. One, you got it. You can't keep what do you want to be remembered as, right? Like, and it's like, do you actually, do you enjoy this? Did you like what you did there in the smashing machine? And is that something you want to do? because I don't think there's anything wrong with saying I like doing that. I like going on that

side, but now I want to go this way. So I get what you're saying. I think that maybe the words could have been chosen differently because from most of the reports, you're right, for the most reports that you hear, it's always like, well, it's not like other people who are controlling his narrative. Maybe in the beginning

with the Disney deal and all that stuff, with tooth fairy and stuff like that, maybe, but not within the last five, ten years. He's in control of his own destiny, for sure. His next wife, Danny Garcia, who's in charge and Danny's a very smart business woman, very capable woman in charge of things. She's been guiding his career with his team and they have done, they've been successful. I just think the last few years, they have floundered because of his ego, because of the choices he's

made. The films haven't done well. And look, this isn't the same guy who tried a strong harm his way in the D.C. is not going to try to tell me that I've been living other people's lives. It's get the fuck out of it. Well, that's a good point, by the way, because let's say, because let's do an all reality here. Yeah. And Black Adam made a billion dollars. You think he would have had this revelation that he wanted to do? No.

And he wouldn't be doing smashing machine either. No. He'd be doing, he'd be doing, you'd be doing DC movies right now. He's just trying to be like, hey, guys, I'm just like you. Hey, guys. He wants to relate a little bit. Look, he's good, but he's good with that. He's good with the spin.

Used to be. So I still think he is. I think it's, well, the other thing that's going to speak for itself is how good is smashing machine. Right. There have been some good reviews, some mixed reviews as well. do me a favor for just a split second i need you to talk about your thoughts on the on i'm going to give you the single here i need you to talk for at least two minutes because this connect this office

for some reason is connected to the air conditioning to that office and the one down there and when they turn it off in here i i sweat so just tell people what your thoughts are on the upcoming smash yeah look i'm looking forward to it i hope it's good the safty versus safty situation is really interesting when you have two films from two different brothers that are essentially sports-type films of Smasher Machine and the one that's coming out with Timothy Shalameh as the chess, sorry, the ping-pong champion or whatever. So that's going to be fascinating. But I am curious to see what the Rock is going to do with this role. Look, I may call him out, but just like we have with our family members, we can call our family members out, but we can still love him, that's the way I feel about the rock. That is,

I mean, my moniker is at the Roka says out of respect for the Rock. And the Rock, and the Rock, says his phrase they used to say at WWE but I think part of loving someone is also calling them out when they're acting the fool and I think some of these narratives I wish you would just be honest because the more he manufactures stuff the less authentic he becomes

and maybe some of you buy this stuff and great God love you you do but I see through people and I see through things and this situation is pretty transparent I'm curious how it's going to first of all not only did they turn the air conditioner off oh no they put the heat on the heat

Why don't you have the heat on? Why you turn the heat on? It's, it's, it's, I'm sweating my fucking balls of to say, the guys, they turn the heat on. Am I get out of your minds? I turn the air conditioner on just now. I say, the heat, the fuck you guys doing. Anyway, um, yeah, I, it's curious to all the Venice and we talked about it, by the way, and I'm still, one of my hype movies of the year is after the hunt is one of my top movies

at, at Venice mixed reactions as far. However, as I was saying. Julia Roberts getting a lot of buzz for best actress, saying some of her best work in a long time. So, I'm curious, if smashing machine's going to be up there after the hunt's going to be up there. Frankenstein got mixed.

I think they got a big standing. The two big standing ovations, Venice, were Frankenstein and Julia Roberts. Those were the two biggest standing ovations of the festival from what I read. And then the Springsteen one didn't get a lot of buzz, which is another one I'm really looking forward to. There were positive reactions for Jeremy Allen White,

but from what I saw from like Scott and Eric Anderson and other people who are there, the biopic aspect of it all was a little cliche. And so that worries me about the movie because I think the trailer looked awesome, but it may just be one of those films where the performer is great, but the film itself doesn't quite hold up when he's not on screen.

So we'll see. We'll see. Yeah. Yeah, in the standing of someone wrote, that Indiana Jones 5 got a standing ovation. I think that Harrison Ford got that because of his work. Because the reviews are terrible coming out of that thing. They were terrible.

Remember that was the big story. Why would they show that there? Reviews were not good. The reasoning got a standing ovation. And it's not taking away your point that you got to be careful of what you said. Well, standing ovation. Why did they get the standing ovation? Right?

ridiculous thing the movie because of the body of work. Who knows? I don't know. Either way, what do you guys? It's a 46%. What did the after the hunt?

Yeah, I know. It's not, the reviews have not, the reviews for Luke, but you read it that read every review. Okay. I'm telling you, every review is pretty much the same is that

they're, they're kind of shitting on Luca. Oh, yeah. Everybody's kind of shitting on Luca in the story, but everybody's praising her. and I don't know. I haven't seen it yet. I don't know.

We shall see, but that's not, yeah, that's not good. I thought it was going to be from the trailer alone. It looked like it could be pretty special. And it very well might be. Yeah.

You know what it was? I'm curious, though, too. And I don't know. I didn't see it. I don't know yet, but there are some things that I read that said that it was, that it was anti-cancel culture.

And that's why, like, the left kind of revolted against it. I don't know. I don't know how true that is. to make a it's supposed to be a nuanced commentary on the me too movement and how people have used it for their own benefits and some of the right have like action which um uh mars the authentic things when it happens and how people's response to it and all of that so i think it's that's a fascinating conversation to have

but yeah if you're asking me do i think critics sometimes who are mostly left leaning get upset when a film comes out that questions the ideology of the left yeah We saw that Richard Jewel, which drove from things. So that's why I want to judge a movie for myself. And I want to see, like, are they judging it because they don't like the, they don't like the message that it has, or do they like it or they don't like it? It's just not a good movie. We'll stay.

Either way, what do you guys make of all this stuff, whether it's the rock stuff, the stuff coming out of Venice? Put your thoughts in there, man. Let us know what you think. All right. So the other thing we're going to talk about here today, John, is that. I found out that someone wrote in the chat and I was like, let's check this out.

Mortal Kombat, that trailer looks fun. The one with Carla River, a new one, that's Mortal Kombat 2, which I still haven't seen the first one, but they just pushed it. Yeah, 2026. So what's going on with Mortal Kombat? It's postponed to a spring of 2026 release. The studio behind the sequel is expecting a better showing in May of 2026. That's a big move.

That's a, that's a, I have a lot of confidence. in this movie move, in my opinion. We'll have to wait until May discover the fate of Earth Realm and Johnny Cage, Mortal Kombat 2, the sequel to the 2020-7, 2021 reboots of the video game adaptation. It's going to be pushed back from its original October 24th release date to May 15th, according to a post

on X from the movie's official account. The tournament's demands a new time and place worthy of its spectacle. The delay goes against the trailer and promotional images that Warner Bros. New Line Cinema already put out, but the studios may be banking on it as a way to maximize the sequel's potential success. According to deadline, movie could avoid a crowded box office in October and instead perform better in a spring debut. The report added that a record-breaking red band trailer that saw 106 million views in the first 24 hours

and a strong performance and research screenings could have influenced the decision to reschedule. Patient fans will have to wait next year for the sequel that starts to Carl Urban as Johnny Cage. The trailer revealed a plot that rolled up heavily around Cage as he joins the fight to the death or yada, yada, yada, y'all. All right. So, is it's a good move or a bad move? I don't know because you say that's the crowded October release schedule or whatever,

but like you look at May, they has Devil Wears Prada 2, then more of the audience, then Mando and Grogo. Yeah. That's the three releases. And before that, the Michael Jackson Belfix was come out on April 24th. So will that still be carrying power going into the, thing. So I think that your point, where are they putting, where did it say, Mortal

Time Act 2? May 15th. Okay. So right now, the only thing coming out on May 15th is a movie called is God is by Amazon, which is Carrie Young and Mallory Johnson, Janel One-A, I don't think it's the same audience, a different audience. So the, before that, like you said, devilware's product, different, different audience. Well, yeah, true. Different audience. But there's one right before that. I don't know what that. What's that movie? There's a movie right before it that comes out.

Animal Friends. I guess that's going to be an animal. You're right. Probably. So really, they have one week, but I think your point is more than valid. I think Mandeloreen and Grogo is where it,

because if they were going to put it out this October, which is when it was supposed to come out. And what date was that, John? Do you remember what? October 24th or something like that? 26. So it's listed here is October 24th. They haven't gotten.

Okay. And then. the following week after is Halloween is nothing you got back to the future wide release which those that seems to be doing very well I mean we're going to get the box office in a second I mean Jaws was the number two movie this is just crazy um there is nothing coming out in October other than remember seventh predator badlands would be your only competition but that's two weeks later as opposed to mandolarian and grogoo the next week yeah I don't know maybe it's not a great I don't know maybe it's not a great move but I don't

think it's a great I think the question is how much it cost? Oh, I don't know. That's a good cost. Because here's the, here's the reason why you, you take the risk. Yeah. Because let's say the budget of the film is $80 million, right? And in a summer movie season weekend, if you can, you know, play your Vegas odds and you can cash out in week one, then have a, you know, have good reviews on it, and then have a 50% drop off in week two. Okay. And make your budget back and make a little bit more money, as opposed to when they're not really people aren't really spending going out as the movies as much in october yeah um and maybe you have you know you turn you tout it as a big summer movie and put it you got to put more

marketing into it right uh screen rant in the write up 43 minutes ago said but the budget for mortal combat two is estimated to be 68 million dollars and that's for marketing and all that kind of right but 68 million and look here's why i'm going to say i think it's a good move okay with that budget because they could be trying to be some of the first people in studio to do something smart in your summer movie season. Okay. And saying let's not just tout these $200 million movies. Let's tout a,

because look, both that movie and Star Wars, the Mandalorian and Grogo, which is the smallest budget of a Star Wars movie ever, I think, like whatever it is after inflation. you're looking at a new wave that maybe if mortal combat becomes a hit because like we talked about black adam before black adam cost whatever it was 200 million whatever whatever much money that

that movie cost and then it barely broke even if at all um and because if you would have spent 68 million dollars on black adam and it made that money then it would be a massive it makes some money you know on so 68 million dollars and a summer movie season, you can get people into the theater, it might be the move. Maybe. It might be the move. I mean, it was a bad former film, the first installment. So we'll see how many people show up for the second one.

But I think putting out in the summer is smarter than putting it out in October. I do think people will be more open to go seeing it in the summer. Yeah. So in that sense, I do think it's a smart move, but putting it right before Grogo, Mandelaun and Grogu, I think is a... It's just a matter of like, if you have confidence in it and you have confidence in the response that the trailer got and that and that fairly represents what the movie is yeah then you could say look let's take let's take a shot here there's an open spot the week before let we know star wars is coming out the next week yeah two things maybe we also get some crossover of people who like maybe maybe man the

learning grogud are sold out and they push over to our movie instead yeah it's possibility too so i think it's a good move actually if the movie would have cost a hundred million dollars i probably would say no, I think because you're going to have a struggle to get that money back with Mandalorian and Grogo the next week. But I don't know, man. It might be the move. Maybe. What do you guys think? Do you think this is the move or you think no? Stupid. Put your thoughts in there. Let us know what you think. All right. Speaking of box office, we always do box office on the show on Mondays, John. I don't get it. Let's do it. Here's the box office for this weekend.

weapons again 10.2 million and is the number one movie again 234 million thus far for that film some movie called Jaws is the number two movie worldwide it's only made 9 million 800 that's it well what a disappointment that film is no but this movie uh Jaws so one of the classics of all the time what the for probably the first movie we're going to be watching with Winston 8.1 million That's huge, huge for that movie in a re-release. Caught stealing, which comes out at 14 million, the nine, almost 10 million domestic. It's pretty, I assume that's decent. I don't know what the budget was on that one. Freakier Friday, 6.5, 132 million so far for that movie. The Roses,

five at 17 million. And did the long walk bomb? That's a bummer, if that's the case. Where's the long walk. I didn't come out yet. It was on next week. All right. Good. I got nervous. I thought that one. Forty million dollar budget. Okay. So pretty good for that movie. Um, did you see that or long walk? I did not see either. No, long walk. We're doing a special screening Wednesday night here in San Diego. Me and Adam Flagback are hosting it. Oh, that's great. One of my favorite movie somewhere here. Yeah, really? Okay. Good. I know a lot of people got a chance to say it last week. Look up for it. Um, didn't, I, I, I think that I'm going to have to watch caught stealing again because I didn't I didn't respond to it the way that other people did.

I just didn't. Great directing, great acting. Just didn't love the story. I didn't love the characters, but I got to see it again. Here it goes off the rails in the last third. I thought it goes. I was locked in for the first half an hour or so. Something else happens in the movie that I didn't like the choice at all.

I understood the choice. I didn't like the choice. And then the last 20 minutes is pretty spectacular. It's pretty, last 20 minutes is, it's, it's erratic and you're like but i'm like it's it's yeah it's one of those way i got to check i got to watch it again but i just didn't i wanted to love it you know what i mean i wanted to love it and i want i'm going so we'll see um what stands out is it weapons got to be weapons still right enduring doing so well globally doing better globally than sinners did and that's that's pretty

internationally i mean not globally internationally sinners did which i think is the power of that movie that It kind of transcends that, and it's the horror aspect of it all is catching on in numerous countries around the world. So that's fantastic for that film. I think we are headed towards that film getting some real legitimate Oscar nominations and awards. Which one? Which one? Which one? We're not in.

You think so? I think Amy Madigan is a shoe-in for Best Supporting Actors. Shoole. It would be great. And I wonder if people are like, oh, is it going to be weapons or sinners? And it's like, right now, why can't it be both? because I know there's films that are coming out in the fall that everyone's at the festivals now watching

like Hamnet and these other films and what have you and maybe they'll be in contention in the running for best picture but I mean a lot of people love sinners, a lot of people liking weapons and there's an artistic bent to both of those films even though they're horror films. And so I think there's a conversation to be had that both of those films could be in contention

for best picture at the same time. I agree with you. Listen, I want to see some genre films get nominated here right because let's go back to that site and the one I was looking at here yeah let me bring I'm gonna bring you and bring you all right so you can hear you now um so let you you probably have a better lock on this than I do right now maybe maybe you don't but um the movies that are kind of gonna be in contention because I I'd love to see those movies that you're talking about right be in contention right so the conjuring probably no shot but who knows we'll see I'm going to

see it tomorrow actually. Okay. Nothing else in there standing out. Demon Slayered down Abbey. Long Walk comes out on September 12. Okay, I saw it really early. That's great that they screened it so early. It means they really have, they see why they have confidence in it. I've never seen Spinal Tab 1, so I got to go see that.

But that's not going to be an Oscar movie. Big, bold, beautiful journey. What's that, John? That's the Margot Robbie and Colin Farrell move. But I don't think that movie is going to it's already getting kind of negative reviews. So I don't know what he's going to do. Him is the

is the Jordan Peel movie. Waltzing with Brando. I think they're, yeah, they're really pushing Zane as, but I don't know. One battle after another I'm going to see on Friday. That has a chance.

That has a chance. There would be a split reaction, but I think that has a chance to be. There's a chance if it's, if it's, if it's, I mean, some awards could potentially come out of it,

for sure. Bone Lake, I don't know. Good boy. Smashing machines got a shot. It's got a shot. Kiss of the Spider Woman. What's that? That's the musical that they're remaking with Jennifer Lopez.

Oh, wow. The Spider Woman. Oh, your favorite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Roofman. I think that's the Chris Pine one, but I don't think anyone's... There's nothing in here so far that we're hearing about. Tron, Aries, no.

Blackphone 2, no as much as I want to see it. Good fortune. Pets on a train. After the hunt, I'm telling you, Julia Roberts will be nominated. we'll see um we'll see i don't think the movie's gonna be nominated anymore even though i want to i'm seeing it fingers crossed springsteen i still think that germany l and white could get nominated for those things i mean this is all here to say who the hell knows but i'm i'm trying to look at all the movies bologna i think begonia is a possibility oh yeah people have been talking about borgia right

that's one that's people have been talking about i saw that and i just saw it's potential screening for that one come in for me so i'm going to check that out um grand prix europe nuremberg what's nuremberg is that one it's a It's about the trials in Nuremberg with Russell Crow and Randi Malick, and it looks horrible. It looks horrible. I mean, but Sony Pictures Classics, they're making a run for it, obviously. Clearly. It looks so bad.

Okay. Keeper, now you see me. You don't know. The running man, no. Cesar Road to Revenge. No. Rental family. Wicked.

Wicked for sure. Wicked. I think rental family has an outside chance. A lot of people talk about that one with Brendan Fraser. But I'll tell you what. Zootopia 2 will be animated, I'm sure, the awards, Eternity. What's Eternity? I don't know Eternity.

Oh, wait, that's the A24 one. Yeah, A24. I'm going to see that. The Hamlet one that you see there, that's going to have a shot. That's one, okay. That's a Chloe Zhao one. Okay, and then Avatar will be up there for sure. Avatar always isn't there.

But there's not, and look, we're still so early into the season. that it's one of these things where, you know, the big movie that everyone's talking about. What was it last year? I forget. What the hell was the movie last year? Everyone was talking about. What was the big?

What was the Oscar? I don't remember anymore. What won the best Oscar? What won the Academy Award the last year? You don't remember either. I don't remember. No, we remember. What one last year?

Don't put me on the spot on a Monday. What's the one of Asian Brody? Is that the one that won? Oh, right. Did that one win? Which one? Oh, Nora won. A Nora one.

A Nora one. There we go. And Nora was a good. And Nora, and Nora, And Nora was made like a late push at the end there too because Nora, it was back and forth. It was a crazy Oscar season legend. I don't think it's a lot of one.

Do you think you should have won? Over the Brutus, I feel like the Brutelish should have won. I liked Nora better. I think, I think Brutus is probably a better made movie. Wait, Dune Part 2, that's the one you wanted. That's what I want to.

Yeah, I want it. Of course. Yeah, June 2 was, was, yeah, it wasn't even nominated. It's stupid. And it's a three part two, Conclave, Brutalist, and then the rest. Right. Either way. But those movies, when they talk for it,

we haven't really heard that talk yet. Like, what's going to be? So to your earlier point, I'd love to see sinners, the weapons, long walk. I'd love to see genre movies make a move this time around, you know? Yeah, those are the, those are the movie. I think this has been a deceptively kind of not great year for movies. And so there's openings.

And the openings are here with two damn good movies that stand out that people are talking about. As you said, I mean, sorry, sinners ruled the spring in most of the early summer. Now you've got weapons ruling the late summer. So to me, those are the films that everyone's talking about. Don't give me Fantastic Force Superman. Stop it. These two films that

people are talking about that feel like awards contenders. And so they have to absolutely be in consideration all the way to the end. Who's in early contention? The award so far. The genre movie's going to make it in there? What do you think?

Speaking of summer movies, speaking of the end, this is before we get to our questions here, this is an interesting story in general. We kind of covered this a little bit the other day, but there's more about the 2025 summer box office getting the industry nervous. And as I said, we talked about this not too long ago, but there's a little bit more to this information. The summer box office is over with Labor Day tickets, sales now included.

North American cinema going revenue has come in at $3.6 billion, just behind the $3.67 billion of last year and notably behind the $4.9 billion of 2020. 23. THR reports that this is being seen as a worst-case scenario for the industry with one top studio executive telling the outlet they are very, very nervous for the future with concern being over the lack of audience for films as opposed to a lack of product. Since mid-June, the trade indicates only one weekend proved a better performer than last year the weekend Superman launched. Research firm Just Watch Media. I like how I said that. It's not like.

Research from Just Watch Media, which monitors, trailer campaigns and moviegoing habits, found that while early in the summer, only 25% of people were willing to wait until streaming to see a summer movie, that number grew to 36% in recent weeks and more mid-sized movies at the marketplace just aren't pulling in the numbers. One big difference this year and not included in the gross figures above is that the foreign box office has fizzled this year with Asian markets, in particular, seeing large downturns in their taste for Hollywood Fair. However, the downturn goes beyond that and is being considered global. Pre-pendemic eight of the top highest grossing studio movies in a year earned over 60% of the total earnings from the foreign box office. That number fell to six last year and three this year. This is going to be a repeating conversation that we've had repeating points many times over. And again, this goes back to that Mortal Kombat 2 conversation we had not 15, 20 minutes ago. you are looking at the numbers here,

you are paying attention to globally what is happening, and U.S. movies to a lot of these foreign markets are looked upon as like junk food, and they're not eating junk food right now. You have to lower your cost in order to cover this and make a profit, because there's no, the superhero movie and all this, will Avengers Doomsday and Spider-Man hit that billion?

They've got a good shot. Yeah. Will Avatar? Yeah, I think so. Avatar is going to be his avatar is to me is a worldwide phenomenon in general. People just love going to watch that in the movies. Whether you like the movies or not, you still go and see it. It's just because you go, it's a spectacle.

But the business is changing and the business is changing through streaming and everything and the windows and, and we had this full conversation the other day on the show about the Thunderbolts, right? Like you look at the Thunderbolts is like a big hit for Disney on streaming. It's a big hit. Yeah. How that equates to them making up money for what they lost in the theater, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't think they know. But you see this and it's down. Does it get better next year with bigger releases that are coming out? Because we can go back to that site. While you're talking here, I'm going to look. I'll bring up some of these, like, I mean, even, John, like, you know, May of next year, right? And we'll see what's better. And I think I was looking at 2025 this year going, oh, this is pretty big.

2026 is pretty big. As you mentioned, May 1st, you got the devil wears product too, right? You got Mandalorian and Grogu. You have Mortal Kombat 2. You got an untitled DC film on May 29th, whatever that is. June, you got He-Man, scary movie six, and the UFO movie with Steven Spielberg, Toy Story 5, an untitled Warner Brothers film, Supergirl on June 26th. July 1st is Minions 3.

July 3rd is whatever Shiver is. July 3rd, another untitled Warner Brothers film, July 4th, Young Washington. That is July 10th, Moana, live action, July 17th, the Odyssey, July 24th, a new Paw Patrol movie, an Evil Dead movie, July 31st, Spider-Man, brand new day, August 7th, Untitled Warner Brothers and Disney film, One Night Only, whatever that is, August 14th, and then Coyote v. Acme finally gets its release on August 3rd. That's a pretty solid, solid lineup, and I think, way stronger than this year's yeah yeah i agree there's more potential for it to be successful in the

summer so i know that people need to fill up these articles and these sites with conversations and do content in this kind of stuff but like this is a down year a little bit because some of these films didn't hit some of these films weren't that well received and you look at how look at the fantastic four for as as hyped as it was and as the great the reviews were right just didn't hit six, seven, eight hundred million dollars, which would I think would have saved the box office to a degree. Superman hit six, which is great, but there wasn't a companion piece that matched with Superman did. Yeah, you had F1, which was a bit of a surprise, but it still wasn't enough to balance things out when you look at the summer as old. No, it added to it. It added, it helped it make more than it would

have. Yeah, exactly. And now we're surprised because no one hit in 600 million. So not to that, not to that extent, no. Exactly. So this is where you're looking at it. So it's just a down year. And yes, you can be nervous. You can be wearing all. all that. But if next year comes around and it's incredible and the films are really well received, then what's going to be your narrative then? So it's just the way it works. It's like stocks. The film, as I've done this for years and years now, Christian, the film world is like stocks. Every time it's down, it's like, you got to sell, it's over, get out, blah, blah, blah. And then you stick around and it goes right back up and you're like, oh, wow, you're making all this money,

hand over fist. It's always ebbs and flows. And so are there lessons to be learned? Sure, there are always these micro lessons to be learned, but it's always about doing good movies because more often than not, when you do good movies, you'll make good money. The two things you're going to see more of is you're going to see even more sequels and IP movies now,

and you're going to see budgets drop. If you don't, if you don't drop your budgets, as we've been saying forever on this show, let's a question on a other budget show, sign balls. It, like, to me, it is going to be overall,

a disaster for the studios if they don't drop their budgets. They have to. I don't disagree there. You're absolutely right. Especially because the costs on everything are going up now. You've got a plan for that. And I think everybody in the creative business needs to understand that's what's going to happen. And the advent of AI as well is getting stronger and stronger.

And so there's going to be less money. And because there's going to be less money, people are going to be paid less. And these films should cost less to make. And the audience's expectations need to start adjusting. as well. That's another element of this that really, I know people got mad about my tweet a couple or a few weeks ago and I said, you know, question and tells us to the audience, you're damn right.

Because you've also got a question, like, what their interest is in original film. Because we've always got those grousers on the side. Or like, all they do is, you know, IP they already know. And all they do is sequel stuff. Yeah, because you know what? We're showing up to that shit. You fuckers aren't showing up in

in large numbers to see original stuff. But I think I, and again, we've had this conversation before. So we can just do it. I think it's less about just the intelligence to the audience. And I also think it's a comfortability of the audience where it's like, why, two things. One, if I'm not super, and I made this point,

if I'm not super interested in the movie, and I know that there's tons of shit that I haven't seen on streaming yet, that I'm already paying for. I pay X amount for Netflix a month. I pay X amount for Disney or Paramount or Apple, whatever I pay for. And there's so much that I haven't seen yet. And if I don't,

and I start watching one of these shows that I'm paying for, and if I don't like it, I'm going to turn it off and watch something else. That's fair. Now, if I spend $20 or whatever, $15 to go to see some movie that I don't like, I'm not getting that back. I'm not, I can't go to the next movie.

I can pay another $15. Right. So it's like, and plus I got to deal with some asshole with his feet up. I can deal with some kid on his phone. That's an element too, 100%. Yeah. So it's like, so that's,

theaters have to take responsibility and get better and get better. I mean, like some of these, like, I'm telling you, I went to movies. I went to a press screening last, and the, the service for the, for the food was horrendous. Yeah. Horrendous. This one guy, I, what did I order? I ordered a, um, uh, I was starving and I don't ever eat this stuff anymore, but I had a hot dog. I needed to get a hot.

So the hot dogs take a while at emce. You always have seven minutes. They take a while. And they, and they shook because they're cooking them. This guy clearly heard me. And I said, and because I'm waiting for the thing. I was, excuse me, and he's like, he looks over, and I'm like, okay. And he's just standing there.

And he knows, you can feel what somebody's about to ask you a question. You can feel it. So I asked the supervisor, I'm like, hey, you know, do you, do you have a guesstimate how long it's going to take? She was nice. And she's like, oh, hey, hey, Jerry, you know when the next, if the hot sauce is coming up and Jerry looks around and Jerry goes, should be done soon, like, like he's annoyed. Like, he's annoyed.

Like, you know what I'm asking for the $57. dollars that is paid for a hot dog and jerry's upset about it hey jerry it's your only job right there is to get the hot dog heated up put it in the roll cut your ass and smile about it you hump it's like or turn around and say hey it'll be it'll be ready soon no no worries you may as well said what happened yeah what happened so either way you know but i'll also i'll also push back that like people aren't running to see intellectually demanding films anymore like they were in years past. Yeah, it's more, yeah. And that's the problem. And that speaks to me about the intelligence of the audience, in my opinion, but I know people can disagree. But I agree with you with Jerry. Like,

I see that all the time now. There's a lot of Jerry's out there. It took me. It took everything, it took everything not to say anything. I was just going to say, hey, Jerry, come on, like, what's, going on? They've increased the amount you get hourly at these jobs. And yet they're still grousing and still kind of rude to you, even more so down. You having a bad day, Jerry? What's, what's going on? Like he was annoyed that I was asking how long the hot dog was saying. And I wasn't a dick about it. I was saying, excuse me. And he wouldn't even pay attention to me. Stupid Jerry. Anyway, what do you guys think about Jerry? Should you get fired? Put your thoughts in there. Let me know. Anyway, box office, thoughts. You know what Jerry needed? I think Jerry needed some trade coffee.

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who knows what it was who remember what happened no one remembered as that it was like it was more about the destination in the parks and that's what they were going to do okay that's fine but yeah it's not it's not an event like it used to be so yeah it was pretty pretty awful go pal week one go football team beat the giants go pal i liked you up until three seconds ago probably can't make the live today but support well see you you bail see didn't even show up mark long great transfer window for the reds roca yeah baby be ready all right let's see next one here is christian unpronounceable happy laborer thank you sir appreciate that and again for the fact that we've got this this day to day and got over you know at 1.800 people watching

live thank you thank you thank you great thanks I'm glad everybody's enjoying their their day and hanging out with us Julius Wyatt a member for five months great time we had a great member stream last week too oh nice very happy never seen Bama looks so lethargic shout out to fissue for physically dominating Bama as a uGA fan I loved it Bama rush yards first drive to the rest of the game 29 55 seconds 20 I know it's nuts they they really did uh they played their heart out the the I'm glad that I mean, either that win, especially even if they have a lackluster season this year. It's such a disaster of a season last year that, you know, it'd be nice to that they started out with this. This Castellano's kid is the truth, bro.

Yeah, would they have five losses last year? No, 12. It was like eight or something like that. It was really bad. It was a terrible. It was bad. Christian number now. So I just finished Dexter New Blood and I started Resurrection.

I would definitely watch a Harrison spin off. Either of you watch it yet. So I started New Blood and it was really good. I actually watched New Blood on the plane when I went to the Florida last year. And I watched like the three episodes and I said, oh, I got to finish this. And I never did. It has nothing to do with it not being good.

I just didn't get to it. Is that the prequel? Is that the prequel? The Declue is the prequel. Yeah, which is crazy. It's a solid show. It's a solid. Christian, um,

Christian Slater was great in it. So Harrison spin off would be interesting too. I got to watch resurrection. I really do. Um, okay. Let's see next. one is Lobo. We need to plot twist movies with Sam. Seven, she needs to see. I don't know if she's seen Fight Club. I don't want to ask her right now. Text Sam. Hey, comma, have you ever seen

Fight Club? Question mark? I assume so, right? We'll see. Six cents. I know she's seen. She has not seen. She's not seen Unbreakable or any of the Shama-Lan movies. I don't know if she's a primal fear. I don't know if Steph has ever seen it. And a rival, I know she hasn't seen my But so we will be doing this. That's what I love being in this zone now. And Winston and Steph haven't seen shit either. So that's, that's the other one. John Darius.

What's up, John and Harlan? Have you seen the Clayface set photos? No, you know, that was one of the stories we didn't get to today. It might be a surprise hit for 2026, hoping for a Batman cameo as well. I don't think we're getting a Batman cameo because, but I do think it will be a hit because of repeating of what we just said. The movie's going to cost nothing. It's going to get hype behind it.

You're going to be able to get some free promotion in the, way that a gun's going to be able to promote it all over the place and it costs what 30 million 40 million dollars to make the movie's going to be a hit yeah it's going to be a hit we'll see i think the people put photos up comparing it to some of the stuff in the batman part too like the oh bad one the the batman that they're shooting some of the same locations okay interesting like automatic all the mergers out we'll see i wonder if the merge is going to i don't i still don't think so. Lobo, even if the usual suspects didn't do that great, please don't

stop reacting to movies like this. Oh, we won't. Even Memento, even Memento doesn't do well. I want Sam to learn these movies, and it's also why I'm building out the team to do more. Also, how many Tarantino movies has Sam seen? I think she saw, she's only seen Pulp Fiction. She didn't, because I asked her that.

She didn't see, she hasn't seen Reservoir Dog. She hasn't seen Jackie Brown. She hasn't, she saw killed Bill. Yeah, but I don't, she's never seen once upon of time in Hollywood she never seen hateful eight so yeah uh once upon time on hollywood i would highly recommend for those of you've seen that movie maybe you don't know too much about the manson stuff yeah i highly recommend there's a new uh documentary on netflix directed by ero morris one of the great documentaries of the last few decades on the manson stuff it's really interesting

it's a whole different angle on it that it might be related to a cia op the i'm called mk ultra so Christian, you like exploring the stuff? Yeah, I would recommend. So it's a quick hour and 30. I don't know if I could do it. It's dark. It's dark. Yeah, man, Sinister McHal.

Harle, if you got any horror reactions in October. Yes, and I know that Sam and I are going to be doing, what's it? We're about night? That's the one that, the Marvel one? Yeah, the Marvel one. Yeah, we've got to ask us why we skip that. I said, I want to save it for Halloween. So we'll probably do some, some horror ones, especially for me and Tina. and I would assume by October

and it's not really a horror movie to be honest with you, but the long walk will be out by then and I'm going to watch it with somebody because it's not really a horror movie. It is in the traditional sense of like if that could really happen, it's terrifying, but it's not, when you think of like horror, you don't think of that movie, you know?

Fair point. Because it really is. From what I read, I didn't realize it when I did my out of the theater reaction. It's like the original Hunger Games, the original I mean, this came up before Running Man, came up before Battle Royale. The book came out. so long ago, so I'm surprised that took this long. And I'll tell you, you and I talked about this already, like when

Omulus came out, this, David Johnson is this guy's a next, next level talent. People talk about him for Black Panther. And I'm kind of coming around on that. I know Damson Idris is the more popular choice, but like, I'm gonna get in trouble for saying this. I'm gonna say in trouble for saying this.

Okay, go ahead. I think he's too short. Oh, dare you. I know. I don't think he's too big. I think he I don't think he's tall enough to I don't think he's got the stature for black people I think I I want to see him and everything and I and guess what if he did get cast I wouldn't give a shit but I think the reason help team is four foot two and he's the god but he's a godfather but he wasn't but he wasn't Iron Man you know what I mean hey hurry up. Happy where are you okay? Hurry up pepper brace yourself. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. And I like to be wrong.

I was just thinking of that heat line. He's looking at Black Widow. He's got a great alley. Why'd be letting her into the complex? Because she got up. And Hulk's got his head all the way up. Hey, big guy. Stop playing.

What do you say? Hide the pickle or whatever he says in the? Carlton Rudder. London calling, John, I'm more and more on the same page with you saying at home and only going to cinema when I need to. Jaws part three was excellent. You're insane. Josh Part three, it's horrible. What is wrong with you, Carlton?

But thanks for agreeing with him. Lobo. Just realized Cooper Hoffman from Long Walk, liquor speech of Saturday night. What was he in Saturday night? He was the He was the, um, uh, Dick, the Ebersoll, I think the carry. The guy who was, yeah. The main guy. He was. Yeah.

He's not the main guy. But yeah, he said, oh, he's Philip Seymour Hoffman's son. Yes, Cooper Hoffman, yeah. Okay, kids got talent. Okay. He's awesome too. Yes. Is he, because he, is that, so long walk is, um, essentially the hunger games running

man meets standby me. Well, by Stephen King. All written by, well, that minus hunger games, but yes, um, running running man, I guess. Um, and those two characters. I mean, carry the whole move. And I didn't even realize that the other kid was the mainstress. It was Ben Wong from Karate Kid. Oh, yeah.

He's in it too. It's really solid. It's really solid. It's it locks you in. Lobo. Hot take. Jaws isn't in the top five Spielberg. Hot take.

I'm on the same page with you. Jaws is his great, listen. Jaws is his greatest movie. No. Shindler's list is his most important movie. That's the truth. No. Anybody who doesn't see that as insane. One of my favorites to be able to movies, you don't even like it. And that's Savan and Private Ryan.

I like Saban Pride of Ryan. Oh, you do? That's my favorite one. I would put, let's see, the top five, I would put Raiders of the Lost Ark in there. I would put, I would absolutely, I might even put Crusade in there. I would put um ET in there. I'm telling you.

I'd put same parrime as my number one. But Jaws is probably in the top five for me. But I, but I'm not, I'm not like a Jaws fanatic in the same way that like, I think it's a really good movie, but I'm not like a like, I never understood like how people became like Jaws like Dan

Merle and, and Riley. They're like Jaws. They're like Jaws fanatics. I'm like, it's not me. Me too. We're just doing, we're, we're just about,

to record our fourth part on Jaws to finish off the movie this week. I think that's what he meant, by the way. Carlton Rutter. I think Carlton meant your episode part three. I don't think he was talking. Oh, yes. Thank you, Carlton. I don't think he's talking about Jaws 3 day. Yeah, thank you. Okay. Yeah, we just dropped our part three over the weekend. Yes, thank you, Carlton. That would make more sense.

The great Tim Sim. So, Tim. Hey, y'all, drop in by to say congrats on Florida State drop-kicking Alabama. Hell yeah. Also, thoughts on where Disney goes after this D-23 and the two MCU films underperforming low expeditions for me on tron areas honestly well i thought so apparently again d23 i guess that if they would if you talk to the people who planned this is this is destination d20 it wasn't meant to be a d23 so stop talking about it like it was so maybe that's what their their answer is i don't know as far as the two mccs on reform we've kind of covered it to death um but yeah right now

they they just they're all all legs are going into spider man the two avengers films and then they just got to focus on X-Men. You can't have it both ways. You can't say, oh, this was destination, and then show stuff from Marvel, from Star Wars. Come on, fuck off. Like, you got to, you got to, like, own the show, own what you did. Own what you do. Stop trying to play both sides.

It's nonsense. I agree. Speaking of which, before we move on to the next one here, too, we didn't talk about that freaking, the Polish CEO's. told the kids. Oh my God. What a loser. What a loser. Like, you know, why? Because here's the thing. Even though, look, let's say

that a moment, that moment happens, doesn't realize the camera's on him. He takes the thing from the kid, he moves on and then it's caught on camera. At that point, especially if you're a CEO of the company, I don't care where you're from. You say,

look, it was, it was not my shining moment. Right. I should have, I should have let the kid have the thing and I'll tell you what we're going to donate X XXX to the kids to this we're going to do this I'm sending this to him

I'm going to make it right it was it was a stupid thing and I was I was the heat of the moment and the people still going to give you shit of course but at least you go okay the guy he was honest about it and he said he messed up this douche on the loose he not only says

hey listen and you'll keep going after me you'll keep going after me uh it's you you you could get in trouble it's against law it's a lawsuit and then he said then he doubles down and he says oh by the way you snooze you lose a kid and and then his wife comes out his wife is going oh you you think you're a wholeer than now got your fucking ass yeah you guys are stepping deeper and deeper into shit you're not going to win it's like a title wave that you're going oh yeah i'm gonna and the and the the current's coming in but i'm going to swim past it. It's like, no, you're going to drown. Yeah. He finally apologized earlier today on social

media. Finally. Yeah. He's getting murdered. He's lost money. His company lost money. His movies lost money. He's an idiot. Yeah. The fact that he thought that the, the fact that he tried to say in his apology that he thought this tennis player was trying to give the hat to him when the tennis players clearly looking at it. And he reached over in front of the kid. That is the dumbest, dumbest excuse. ever it's amazing to me that you're so right like it's the simplest thing to say you know what i got greedy in a moment even though i'm a fucking millionaire and i could totally buy that hat in an auction or go pay a little bit extra and get to my own hat signed by this guy caught up in it i got caught up in it it's a mistake it was a dushy move i'm sorry i got caught up in it yeah i have all this

money. I'm going to give it to this. I'm going to give some of it to this. I'm going to give some of it to this kid. I'm going to take, you know, I'm going to, I got a chance to do a photo off with this kid. I'm going to, you know, guess what? I want to buy him season tickets to wherever the hell he wants to go for the rest of his life. Instead, now, now everything he does is like, of course you're apologizing now, you idiot, because you lost all your money. Right. And you're, and it's the same like, oops, look at me. I'm a cold plate concert. I just got tits in my hand. What happened? Oh, me? I'm suing you. Right. What was wrong with people? People are too, People are walking around feeling, I know this word is triggering for some people, but there is privilege.

Some of these people, regardless of color, it's about privilege. These are rich people and they act privileged. Everything should be handled. They should get whatever they want. And how do you yank something from a child? And your vapid wife saying anything like, I'm blaming one person here. What's that? Jerry. Jerry. Yeah, Jerry.

Fricking Jerry. Tim Sim. Also speaking about Bama, Bama fan, DM me. saying that since I'm a man, United fan who's deep into seeking my soccer club collapsing after Sir Alex retired as a coach, how should he prepare for Bama without Saven? Poor guy. Okay.

So a lot of that I understood. All the soccer stuff? The Bunga. Since I'm gonna say what the hell he's talking about. Other than that, you can, you can put to you. People are so like, they think SABIN, like they were born and raised on Saving, winning titles for four decades.

Bama has sucked ass intermittently for decades before Saban and then, you know, like, for God's sakes, I go back to Gene Stollings. That's how long I've known about Bama. And there has been ups and downs always. People are like, never seen Bama like this. It's like, yeah, because you started watching Bama eight years ago, for God's it. It's nonsense. Well, what about the United? The man you're trying to prepare for Bama without Saban.

Prepare accordingly and just get ready to not be in national title games for a while. Lobo. Safdi brothers said that their most influential directors are Friedkin and Scorsese, which makes sense. You can see that. 100% you can see that. Good time, uncouth gem, smashing machine, and Marty Supreme or movies, Scorsetty would have made in the 70%. 1,000%.

You can see that in. Yeah. Totally. Darth Vader's burnt asshole. Hey. Cautionally optimistic for Star Wars Starfighter. Levy has me mixed. Seems like Lone Wolf and Cub again.

It does seem like that. That makes me nervous. Like, get away from that storyline. If that's the case. Cast is stellar. Agreed. Ray is almost certainly in the final act, though, right? You'd have to assume it would make if they were smart, but I don't know if they're smart.

Could give two craps of Mando versus Groglit though. Yeah, but that's the thing is that they're really, they're doing the Moana 2 strategy there. And I think that that's, you have to right now. You have to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So as far as the, I'm, I actually like the Sean Levy thing. I like what he did with, what was the, the movie that he did on Netflix, the what's the Adam movie

what was it called? The Adam effect. Like that movie, I think Real Steel is one of the most underrated movies that he's like. Real Steel a lot. Really solid movie. I hope we get that kind of heart for this movie. Yeah,

that's what I'm hoping for. Like, Deadpool 2, or Deadpool 3 rather, I don't necessarily know, look, the reason why he's getting opportunities, even bigger opportunities of movies like this is because of Deadpool Wolverine for sure.

And he should be grateful for it, obviously, but let's call it what it is. Deadpool 3 was a Ryan Reynolds move. Yes. If Ryan Reynolds, if Sean Lee came up with a full idea and they collaborated, they work on things, they're friends, they work on stuff. But if Ryan Reynolds was, well, I don't want to do that. I'm going to do this instead. Then that's what they're going to do. It's a Ryan Reynolds comedy movie. That's what that movie is. I want to see a Sean Levy's Star Wars movie. I'm curious to say,

and I like the fact that Ryan Reynolds isn't in it. It was the last movie he's done without Ryan Reynolds. It's been a bit. It's been a bit. So let's move past them for a bit and let's do that. I'm on board for Sean Levy. I think show me is going to shock people. And it probably could. And look, and it's funny to say this, because it really doesn't, it's, it's not as daunting as it might sound. Yeah. But it could be the best Star Wars movie since Rogue One. Very possible. Possible. Very, very possible. Yeah. I mean, any movie that comes out now could be the best movie since Rowan, but, but this has a shot. Like, I don't think Mandelaer and Grogue, it's just going to be another season of the show.

which is fine. Yeah. But it's not it's not going to at one point I thought opposite, but now that I realize kind of what it is, I know it's just going to be another season of the show. Maybe they can redeem themselves and kind of go back on the tone of season one. Um, but they the leaving movie could turn it all around it if they if they actually have a plan. Right. Alexander Wilson, the event over the weekend was destination D23, which is their smaller version of D23 that is hosted at one of the parks hotels. D23 was last year. I guess. I guess, get it. But like John said, they still have, they still are doing like events and stuff too. I guess I guess you know what it is though? If you're going to do that, don't call it destination D23. Call it destination Disney or something. Call it something different. So that way you're an actual new event. Yeah. That's like me calling calling the WWE event over the weekend. WrestleMania and Paris, a clash of WrestleMania and Paris. Like you can't use the connotation of D23 without the responsibility of it. Like, come on. You don't get to get away with it. it i know um but i understand it's just but it's it's it was touted as it kind of a mini event lobo

saw the game fincher said he didn't do a good job directing it i disagree with fincher i like michael douglas but sean penn steals the movie for me sean pen is great in that movie it's where she was the lead that's one i got to write down i got to see if anybody has seen the game um i bet you sam hasn't seen the game right um so let's let's see so she so sam has seen fight club as uh let's say how about the game with michael douglas i will say it's not one of the ones that i go back to a watch all the time of in the fincher resume i i remember seeing that movie in the theater though i really i was at florida state when i saw that yeah um yeah i really i really pym i hate the demon hunter's movie really love the sound you're the first person i've heard

say that movie's generic trash but the music is great wow you'll have movies you hate but love the music the answer to that is definitely yes i'll tell you what i'll tell you a movie that i don't know it hates a strong word okay but it's boring and don't like but the score is excellent is redley scott's robin hood's robin hood's score is incredible but it's it's uh yeah not great bad movies are great soundtracks uh no i don't see any any of these that i think are bads oh look hang pym yeat will a j lee finally return now for the man remember we called this we remember how long ago we called this that she would be joining Seth it's pretty clear you don't involve becky if you're not going to bring jay you have to

you have to um so they keep that i mean punk's got to get a win eventually here right I know, but it's been great. I mean, I love that people are willing to put it. What has been all the knocks since he came like through an AEWs? Oh, he's all about himself. Yeah.

He's been one of the most self-wise guys. He's putting everybody over. He's been putting everybody over. Yep. He gets the occasional win. Did you watch the event? I didn't see it. Did you watch it? I want some of it. Yeah. R. IP, Becky Lynch's career.

It's pretty much over. It's pretty much. I mean, that big, that, uh, Nikki Bella match was just. It was terrible. It was so bad. Like, Nikki Bella does a move, and Becky is 20 feet away from her. She spins off the ropes and kicks, and Becky sells the kick with like five feet of a gap between the kick in her face.

Like, what are we doing? Like, she did with the face smash on the- Yeah, and the fashion on the table. You're like, oh, what is happening? So, yeah, I could. Yeah. Look, here's the deal. It's like Eminem.

Once Eminem got rich, got successful, it was happy. It took a while for him to come back to be a good rapper because, like, what have I got to rap about? in my mansion, you know, and I think the same things out of Becky. Becky got a great love in Seth Rawlins. She has a, she's a mom, she's a great child. There's not that hunger, that anger, that thing, you know, and drive. It matters.

Yeah, but yes, AJ Lee will find, we'll return. Did you watch the punk and Sina match? I heard that was good. Well, not punk and Sina. No, sorry, Sina and, uh, it was good, but Logan, there were some spots that Logan surprisingly blew, so I think it was fine, but not great. All right. Alexander Wilson. Destination D23 is only available to attend by people who have

the D23 gold membership, which is why it's not a big event. It's still media. That's the thing. You can't do that anymore. So if you have media news coming out. But I get it. I get it. I understand. That's not true. Media was there. So it's it is more than just the membership. Right. Right. Mumrah. Great name. Reverse the trend. What old live action Disney films could be an animated remake. Swiss Family Robinson, 2000 Lees, old yellow, treasure island. It's great. All of those. I'd have to go, you have to go through the,

Tron, Tom could be a cool animated. Oh, Tron was great. There was a series for Tron, but it was called uprising, but it wasn't obviously based on those characters. You know,

I still haven't seen a trailer for the new one. What? Still holding out, huh? Yeah, I mean, at this point, I missed the reactions for it.

I'm just going to go and, I'm just going to see it in the theater. Okay. Simon section, congratulations to FSU for beating Alabama. There's only two good things about Alabama. The Tuskegee Airman and my cousin. Okay, fair enough.

Poor Alabama. I'm getting hit. Freddie Castellano. Thanks for doing the show on the holiday. Thanks for watching for you. First time I can write in live and Rokka's on. John, you inspired me to speak up and be myself the most positive way. Love you.

What a nice thing to say my friend. Thank you, Freddie. So many people say the opposite about me. So I appreciate you saying the positive. Thank you so much. 57. So far, John, on this Monday. Can you get John to 100?

Come on. This week. Tomorrow is just me and Mike. Wednesday. Okay. Yeah. Wednesday is Roxy and Chris Carr.

Ooh. Thursday is going to be Steph and myself. And then Friday right now, Winston, I got to see if I can get, I'm going to see if Chris Carr can do Friday also because I have a screening of the Paul Thomas Anderson movie at that time, so I won't be able to make it. Christian unpronounceable.

Instead of remaking good movies, we need to remake bad ones. Do you guys have any ideas? Yes. I think Zandhi. I've talked about this so many times. There's a movie that came out, Rebecca de Morne and Darryl Palmer. Not Darryl Palmer. He plays Darryl Palmer in the movie. What's his name?

Who's Michael O'Keefe called The Slugger's Wife. Oh, yeah. I remember that one from the 80s. It's a terrible movie. But I loved it. And you could easily do a remake of it. And you could do a remake of today and a major league baseball. Instead of doing the home run streak,

you could do the home run streak again, too. You have to be Barry Bond's thing. I think you do Joe DiMaggio's hitting street. Yeah. And, you know, so we'll see. I'd remake Jurassic World Rebirth. Paul Hitchcock, The Rock. Let's try spinning.

That's a good trick. Yeah, exactly. George. John, there's never been a person I agreed with so strongly, but also disagreed with so strongly seconds later. I love and appreciate your opinions, but never stop being you. Lord of the Rings is better. much. He knows he's on a very small island by himself.

I pride myself on those things. Yeah, I believe what I believe. And I don't, no disrespect anybody who disagrees, but nine hours of little people running on, sorry, the Habits running on grass is not exciting to me. Sam has never seen the game. That's a good one to watch. And I think Devil's Advocates are the one. She hasn't seen. Oh, my God. So many names. It was another one I saw Florida State. Both of them I saw with, I remember Steve with my ex.

And that movie was crazy. It was a crazy movie. Lobo. Someone said Cruz isn't an actor. He's a movie star. I said that. I asked if he said scene collateral, Magnolia, born on the Fourth of July,

Rain Man, the firm. He said, no, no. No, he's the definition of movie star, but he's also a very good actor in all those reasons that you just mentioned. Magnolia, a four and forth i mean they're all great they're all great yeah um oh she actually has seen devil's advocate look at that see i never know i don't know sam sam's it's all over the place i don't know which one anyway so thank you lobo beto power hey happy labor day mfs jaws deep dive on the

cinnifinals is creeping into my top three godfather one or two heat jaws must listen look at so i have to say i'm very moved by that because like we were nervous about diving back because we did the movie six years ago, but it was like a quick hour and a half or two hours. We knew that this film deserved a better approach to it. So we really dive in. It's our first time we've ever done four parts on a movie. We were nervous people were going to listen. So thank you so much to everybody who's listening. That show only on audio? Yes, only on audio. We do live shows every, month, one live show every month, but it's just a random topic we have fun talking about. Why isn't the show and video? Because it's a lot of editing because we edit in clips from the movie and stuff.

And yeah, there's a lot of uming and awing that we had. All right. Alexander Wilson, Gilroy exposed the problems with Star Wars is that they had too many subpar creators and writers working on projects. The quality of Andor hurt Faloni and the Mandoverse. People don't want that anymore. He could not agree more.

Yeah, got to have to say yes. I agree. Yeah. Now the question is, will Flonie look at it and go, oh, maybe I actually have to write adult dialogue now? No. No, he won't.

I still think he thinks that he's living in 2015 when everybody loves, because he goes to Star Wars Celebration. Yeah. And he's, and he's treated like Mick Jagger in the 60s. And he's like, oh, they still love me.

He's like, you know, that's, that's celebration. Yeah. And so you've got to, you've got to be looking and realize that you're Asoka season one, you've got to,

that can't be season two. It can't be. I agree. This morning, they dropped the new, trailer for the Guinness series that Stephen Knight, the guy who did Peakey Blinders and was going to write the Ray. It's great

the trailer and I'm like, imagine if he had done this with Ray. And I imagine... He's doing Bonn now. He's doing Bonn now. I imagine Cowboy Hatman was like, no, no, no, that's too dark for Ray. That's too gritty for Ray. We can't do that. Where's my

animals? Where's my talking animals? Right. We need a monster of the week. We need a monster of the week. What's he do? Isn't he doing bond? Stephen Knight is writing Bond. Yes, the new Bond. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Bond 26. It's like, so he's like, screw this. I'm going to write by and it's like, how do you lose a guy like that?

That is, did I miss one? Or is that the one? Is that right? In another world, we have a Lord Miller solo film, which is amazing and a Stephen Knight Ray film, which completely revitalized character and gets people excited for what's coming. But I am so curious. I'm so curious to see, though, because now, you know, people, you know people are coming in and saying, well, wait, because even, even, even what's his face? Simon Kinberg is like, and or inspired me. We want to make this like and or. Everybody's talking about and or, and or, because that's what the fans actually responded to and united with. Right. That split thing for a second. Like it happened with Mandalorian season one, season two. Both sides went, okay, look, let's put the difference to the side. For the most part, we're pretty, we're pretty good. good, we're good. And then more crap. Oh, no, we're here, we're here, we love everything. We hate everything. What about us in the middle? F you guys. Oh, okay. Thanks. Now, this and or was like,

oh, okay. Some people, uh, it's boring. Some people like, uh, but for the most part, people realize that's quality stuff. Yeah. And hopefully Floney goes, oh, wait a minute. Maybe I can actually make adult stuff now, but I don't think he's going to. Yeah. Tim Sim, what makes this, K2 move to May odd to me is that Grand Theft Audio, Six, the most anticipated game of the decade is releasing in May as well. Hope everyone has a great labor day. You know, I used to be, and I still think that I am. I used to be against the idea that because a video game is coming out,

that, you know, that's going to hurt the box office. I still am against that because the things of the video game is, okay, I'm buying it for 70 bucks or whatever the hell it is. take a break go to the movies go see it i mean if you're really locked into it i'm gonna you know good i'm gonna if i really want to see a movie i want to do more common movie okay good i'm gonna go see the movie i'll come back and i'll play moral combat until two in the morning yeah but there is something to be silly we i don't want to take a break i'm so locked in the gta i'll go see mortal combat next week but i don't i don't think i really don't think it's a

it is as big of a thing as rinston puts up the fight the most that he thinks it is a big deal but How do you know I don't I disagree with listen I agree more with you I think it's the thing I've learned about life is that people will go to the things they want to go to no matter what the hell is going on remember what COVID was happening knee deep into COVID and Spider-Man no way home came out and made over a billion a billion six or whatever it made or maybe two I don't remember what it made but it made so much money and this was at a time when everyone was like no people are going to the theaters people are afraid to go to the theaters people are people are laying on top of each other licking each other's face. with COVID going on just to be able to be in the theater and see this move. So give me a fucking break. Like I don't think video game matters at all because people can stage a video game to play it when they're ready to play it on a weekend. Right. And you can take two hours to go see a movie. It doesn't matter.

You want to do it. I agree. Yeah. All right. Let's see. Next one. Jay Figgy. Dang.

Nolan, that's cool. It was so cool. I spotted a famous YouTuber at my place of employment one time. He was with his lady. I didn't want to intrude. YouTube was John Roker. And yes, I regretted it because I'm a huge fan next time for sure. You should have said hi.

Always come up and say hi. I love it. And trust me, it's great because the lady outlaw just rolls her eyes at me when it happens. It always happens in random places. And she's always surprised. And her sister's even more surprised when it happens because she's up in L.A. Whenever she comes down, if we ran into people, like we had a waiter, I think a few weeks ago, who knew me from the YouTube and Collider stuff.

And they both rolled their eyes. So always say hi because I'm always very humbled by it. So please. Yeah, you hear that, Jerry? All right. Piona George, there's an untitled DC film out late May as well of 2020. Interesting movie. What is it?

Do you know what it is, John? No, I don't. I don't. And I wonder if it's a slot really for what it would be a slot for. I wonder what it would be a slot for. So I don't know if they're holding that or because nothing's in production, but, uh, frigging Clayton's right? Right.

I don't know. Yeah. Tim Simp. Do you think it could be Wonder Woman? No way, right? No way. No, not if, may, they haven't even started shooting? No way.

No way. Tim, also, great sports joke I heard recently. Jerry Jones traded away Mike Barnes. Winston right now. Winston just woke up in a cold sweat. 60. 60 right now, John. Pretty damn good for this Monday.

I like it. Okay. Next one over that. Thanks to the great Tim Simp. Thank you, Tim. And we are now at John Darius, who says, given the buzz, director, as Chloe Zow is getting her upcoming film Hamnet, do you think she will be

consider for the upcoming Wonder Woman film? I don't think she's going to want to dive back into that world. I agree. Yeah. I think she likes her neighborhood. I think she likes being, I think she took a shot with Eternals and said, yeah, I'm okay. And I think that she jumps right back into her neighborhood and they're going to go, they're going to

reward her for doing it. She's, she's brilliant. And I think I liked Eternals better than most, but I don't think her style mixes in the big world. And she's getting a lot of buzz, reactions. and reviews wise for this one so clearly she's in her element yeah who's in her who's in that one uh jesse buckley

and paul moscow from gladiator too oh yeah i like paul moscow casual scrawl who's going to have a better year than zadai in twenty twenty six she got spider yeah but she's going to barely be in spider man right the odyssey and dune part three that girl's working yeah i mean that's true it doesn't matter because she's still in it so she's still going to make money off it but i don't think she's going to have a big part i think sadie sink is going to be more of the lead the female lead than that one right don't forget euphoria which season three, which is supposed to come next year as well. I've never seen that at all. Fiona George, just curious, what could this untitled DC film and May could be?

Yeah, I guess your guess is good as mine. Do you think that it's just they're just holding it just in case and then they just let it go because they don't have anything? Unless they have something they're working on animation-wise that they've been working on behind the scenes and haven't released anything. You know, it's hard to keep leaks are happening everywhere. I know. Mostly from you guys. Yeah, well, yeah. It would surprise me that there's secret.

shooting a DC film. That will be post, in post and done. And nobody knows about it. And nobody knows about it. Dingus McNally, just thought of this. What about Gina Prince Breithwood for the director of the new Wonder Woman? She did the Woman King, Love and Basketball, both Allgard. No, you said? Yeah, because that last O'Gar film was terrible. And the first one was barely good. So I don't know that she's the right choice for Wonder Woman. I did like woman king but love and basketball that's like telling me something from the late 90s you should dip like sam ramy and how did multiverse of madness turn out as a terrible movie even though it made

almost a billion doll this is such a crazy pick but and there's no world where she would do it katherine bigelow a wonder woman oh bigelow would be a great choice right that's a great splashy choice man it's a great splatchy choice about to have a new movie come out i know he's good i know that's what i'm saying that would be a great choice um Eric Kirby, Roka, thoughts on Arch Manning hate right now? Yeah, quarterback of Texas. I think it's deserved if you're going to get hyped this high and you blow it in your... Is he the youngest of the...

He's like the nephew of the Pete and Eli. He's Cooper's son. Okay. And if you're going to get hyped to the sky and enjoy the hype and play into the hype, don't come crying to me that you're getting too much criticism. It's the game. You know by now. Having two famous uncles, you know it by now.

Yeah. Christopher Bickner. Roka mentioned last week about being more excited for Star Wars. I'm not announcing projects with known filmmakers of what Lucas film did in 2013. I mean, look, I don't disagree with either one of you guys here, both Christopher and Roka because I think there's two sides of the coin here, right? The first is Roka, and John, I'll let you,

obviously don't want to speak for you, but like I would assume the same way that I just said about Starfighter. It's encouraging because, A, it's coming along. Yes. It's a good cast. It's a good team. and it's outside the realm of the, it's past the new trilogy,

it could be exciting. Where I agree with Christopher is the same thing I said before about Flonnie. You still got the same damn team. John said the same thing too. You still get the same people in charge. But who's to say they're not going to just say, look at this great shiny thing we had.

Oops, we just broke it on the floor by accident. Sorry. It's possible. So I understand not being excited about it, but I at least like what they're working on. Yeah. I hope they find directors who will just say like, look, leave me alone, Dave.

I'm going to do what I'm going to fucking do, and I'll need you when I need you. I hope there are more directors coming around. And Filoni is smart. He would do that. Well, I also hope that they just say, okay, look, let's, like, I did really like what Simon Kingberg said about,

we have a full treatment of where we want to go. That's what they should have done for the prequel, I mean, the sequel trilogy. How they didn't do that was, like, the stupidest thing that anybody, like, you should be fired as an executive. You're putting, you, well, I'm just going, throw it a win.

That's what George did back in the 80s. We live in the 70s and 80s. It's a different time. Mandorese, Mando Ruiz 619. You see the dickhead that took the cat from the hat from the kid of the U.S. hope. Yeah, we spoke about that a little earlier. Christopher Brickner, Lucasfilm using famous actors for Star Wars,

I say shows the weakness of the brand. I don't agree. It needs known actors to create hype now instead of the brand doing itself with only up-and-coming actors. No, I don't, I don't agree. I think that there are some people, like, for, like, Ryan Gosling being in the movie, right now you need, you need a little juice behind it.

You really do. You need a little juice where they're at. And they're going to put a bunch of people inside of these movies also that you don't know, and they're going to build some other people. Like, Daisy Ridley and Oscar Isaac, oh, Oscar, Isaac was kind of a more known name, but John Boyega, with the lesser known. And I still think they're going to still do that.

But I think that they need some right now. I don't think is, well, I mean, I guess what, maybe I take, I step back a little bit. Okay. I think Christopher Brickner is right, actually, now that I say that, it does show weakness in their brand, but it's a, it's a necessary step that they need right now because there is a weakness in the brand. Yeah, I have to say there's, I don't fully agree with the point, Christopher, but I take

your point and give you a counterpoint by saying this, this is a brand that knows it's weak right now. this is a brand that knows that it's a little bit on its heels. So what you hope that a brand does when it's in that position is it changes its approach so they can get people back on board because this is a business. I know who loves that show, show stuff and movies. It's a business and their brand is business, money. So you want to bring in these known actors that do a little bit more of the work for you

in terms of the hype and the popularity and the attention and the eyes on your project so that you can get more people in theaters to see it. and hopefully you deliver a good movie, and then everything's back on track, you know? So, yes, it is your weakness, but I applaud them for pivoting and reacting to the record. You got to try it. You got to try.

Simon section. John, thanks for recommending Dark wins. I only saw two seasons. Is there a third? I mean, like to know what happened to the mother and her baby that laughed. Yeah, definitely see seasons three. It's on AMC Plus. I think it's on Netflix, actually, all three seasons.

So definitely recommend it. Armada, Conjuring Universe movie reactions. potentially. I don't know. I got to find out if anybody's watch them. The problem, so Tina's usually my horror girl, but the thing is Tina has, her schedule is kind of, right? I got a bunch coming in September, but I think for her, we're going to finish watching the digital circus first, but I got to double check. And I'm putting together the schedule for everybody pretty soon. Armada, are you going to show Steph Major League in Days of Thunder? No, I'm going to show Winston those. Winston hasn't seen

any of one of those. So Winston will probably watch Major League and Days of Thunder with me. I think Winston will really dig both of them. Winston, Winston's finally watching, watched Blazing Saddles last night. I know I saw, I didn't see it on this channel yet, but I saw that he posted it. Right. That's good.

Cool as a dry pickle. What counts is a view? It sometimes takes me a couple days to complete a reaction. Does it count as two? Sam's end game reaction is almost at 500K. I know it's pretty crazy that it did really, really well. What, it turns a couple of days to complete a reaction. I don't know how long.

I think that when you click on it, it does, but I think it's more, it counts as a view. but I think that it's a matter of how long you watch it for. That's the most important thing. And by the way, so they just implemented on YouTube the hype button. John, did you know that? Oh, yeah, I saw that.

So, and you'll, I think that the viewers only get like three a month or something along those lines. What I would ask, if you're going to do one from my channel, either pick one of the live shows. And because what it's going to do is it's going to help us get our show out there. and we're going to start to get more people to see it. Or I would say pick one of our reactions, whether you want to support Sam, you want to support staff, you want to support one of those. Pick one of our reactions, pick something there

and hype one of those. And that, if you can't, by the way, if you can't do super chats and you can't get one of the sponsors, you got the hype button now and that can help us out. So spend one of those on us. Yeah. Okay, next one. Shea Markell.

Are you guys keeping up with foundation on Apple TV? Is that the Rebecca Ferguson one? No, that's, Oh, no, I think it might be. Okay, it feels like a sci-fi epic. I imagine fans wouldn't mind if it was a Star Wars spinoff show. Is that what? I don't know which, I think foundation is Rebecca Ferguson.

Is it? You let me know. Yeah, I'll let you. I did, Mahmood. Does Alabama fire their head coach if they fall short, short. Yeah, they shouldn't, everyone's somebody from getting fired now. They shouldn't fire them now, but let's see how the season does. It's a $70 million buyout.

So if they fire them, they got to pay them $70 million. Right. Right. So I don't see that happening. Bobby happy labor did Bobby thank you by the way it wasn't for Bobby I don't think I would have seen long walk John how is your visit with Dan Merrill too bad he lives he doesn't live in san diego you him and adam could collaborate 100% yeah Dan I had really nice lunch on uh Friday I think it was uh oh no Thursday sorry we had a great two hours talking catching up we didn't take a picture and realize that I was driving home I was like you moron

And meanwhile, he got photos with Sam and Rachel and freaking Roth when he ran into her the other day. And so, yeah, I felt bad we didn't take a picture together. But it was great to see him. I haven't seen Dan in forever. And it was just nice. Yeah. We did our live show. Yeah, he's the best.

When we did our live show together, it was nice. He met me at Penn Station. Yeah, he told me he took the train up to see you. Yeah. Oh, that was when he came in last time. Actually, yeah, when he came in last time, he actually took the, he took the train in to, Long Island and he came into the studio and we, uh, we, we hung out. Um, but, um, but it's funny. I shot an episode with him while he was here, but the footage goes all farted out. So I couldn't

put it up. But, um, but yeah, no, no, when we did our live show, we met, we went to, we had a couple drinks. He's the best. So my favorite people more. Uh, Renetta W. became a YouTube member. I'm so glad. Yeah. Renata ruled. Uh, Julius Wyatt, Jurassic Park. Ryan, seven for Ryan, Jaws, Chris, my and I were my five favorite Spielberg. They're good ones. Cool to finally see Jaws in the theater. football is back baby sure is that's the night rudder

Jaws part three of the Sinai series there you go Lobo love that PTA worked with Seymour Hoffman in his entire career then cast his son Cooper in Lickrish Pizza watch Saturday Night trailer he's in it I got to watch the movie

I've seen the movie so I just got to watch that again because he's great it's funny because I'm I I liked Lickrish Pizza and I thought he was fantastic in the movie right and yeah he's good i didn't i didn't remember right away from saturday night obviously but in this and you write it's oh that's a kid from looker's yeah yeah what's this speaking of the of m the

stand's doc was decent that's from eric kirby yeah it's i think it's on paramount plus it's a documentary on m&m no it's a documentary about stands oh m&m is like the guy because of that song yeah yeah m&m is one of the guys that they profiled all how people become obsessed with celebrities. Okay. Lobo, one battle is two hours of 45 minutes. Oh, my Lord. Yeah.

And 150 million budget. I want to be gone for most of the day on Friday. Okay, good to know. Thank you for telling me. Carveritate support and thank you for working on the holiday. Thanks for being with us and listening on the holiday. Thank you. 70 questions so far on the holiday.

Look at that. Right now, we're still 700 people watching live. James Diesel. I agree with any game except GTA. five, it made a billion that had profit for 10 years. Six will be at 100 at lunch, hard to drop that cash, then drop 50 on a movie.

Yeah, but it's, but it's also, it might not be the same audience, though, too, that is going to see, um,

well, I don't know, Mortal Kombat, probably argument is probably pretty stupid, uh, video game movie. So maybe you're right. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. Maybe, maybe, maybe it, maybe it could be right. I don't know. The counter to the argument is,

because you've watched a video game and played oh sorry you played a video game you're excited about a video game you'll go see a movie based on a video game so you're in that mindset they might get you into the theater more quickly yep um all right michael hey holland give me vader year one hunting jen i show how the world has changed then give me two more leading up to rogue one pain nolan a star destroyer to do it oh my god's nolan doing a vater movie you kidding me lose my mind no one's gonna come work for star wars if they have to work for bologna and carryback no one of nolan's fucking stature none of these guys at the high stature are gonna do that Well, here's the difference there, though. If they go to get Nolan, he's going to have the same deal Tony Gilroy did. Leave me alone. I guess. Tony Gilroy had a leave me alone deal.

I think they should hand Star Wars to Nolan, like they handed DC to James Gunn. He's no one. He don't want that. He doesn't want that. He doesn't want it. He's going to do that. I would be so, I would, that's, look, one movie with Nolan doing it, Star Wars, I would be, or three of them, I'd be happy.

but him doing his rest of the career doing Star Wars. I mean, no way. We'd lose out on all the other cool stuff he's going to give us. Scuba Steve. Hey, Roka, love the cinephiles, deep chat about Jaws. I saw it in the theater over the weekend. It's absolutely a classic. Spielberg was just 26.

That's crazy. It was pretty crazy. Yeah. You know it was also crazy? Speaking of young directors, I was, you know how the algorithm works, just pops things in there randomly. The kid had played telly in kids. Oh.

You've seen kids before. Yeah, yeah, a long time. So Harmony, what is it, Harmony Gold? Harmony Corinne. What is it? Harmony Gold. Harmony, Corrin. The one on Sunset. Theater.

Harmony Corinne. He was like 19 when he wrote that movie. Yeah. So, you know, Steph has never seen that movie. That's not an easy one to watch. No, it isn't. Not an easy one to watch. But I may check that one out.

Christopher Brickner. It's not guaranteed Stephen Knight could revitalize Ray. He's pretty hit and miss as a writer. So it was Ray Star Wars movie could have been bad like seventh son. sure but I mean at least would have been detailed and smart you know what is this hit or miss as a writer nonsense where where are you getting that nonsense let's see let's see what he has previous thousand blows was a great series it was on hulu recently rogue heroes i don't know this town all the light we can see people love that i didn't

i didn't necessarily like it peekie blinders spencer oh um see southern ones here this town maria rogue heroes at that thousand blows. I don't know. I don't know. Wait, but he did he do? Which one did he just say? I don't know. Which one does the other? He said. He did the girl in the spiders well, which

it was great. Serenity. Serenity, woman walks. I don't know which. Oh, 7th son. I mean, that was 2014, though. So. Oh, yeah. You're referencing that? Why are you ignoring taboo, which was an amazing series also in the same in 2000? 2017 with Tom Hardy was incredible he's a great writer

Tray Porter you guys ever seen hostels yeah it's great one with Christian Bell right great movie yeah that's a great western yeah yeah checked out this weekend Dan Good Western the great cast very underrated very underrated and wasn't isn't Timothy shallame in that one uh I think he has a small role in that way yeah yeah Rosamond Pike's in that thing that's right that's right Nathan Drake you guys see the rock man got lean for a role what's what what what is what what role is it do we know why he's got so so lean they're claiming it's a role what do you think it is i think hollywood is obsessed with ozempic and everyone is getting

really bone thin it's not even emily looked like bone thin it's nonsense it's crazy i don't need to stop with this stuff it's out of control me nathan drake slap shot reaction oh my god i haven't seen that i don't know if i've ever seen that by the way uh a rago just finished west world series season one and two are great but ending was mad you see it now i never got into it did you get into it yeah i like the first season then i tailed off in the second just didn't grab me anymore dingus mcnelly first reviews are out now for the smashing machine the trades are saying that the rock proves everyone wrong the rock is revelation thoughts rogues 100% right now on on rotten tomatoes yeah anything wrong anything they're okay i think it's great that people are excited for it but if

we're going to say the trades are too hypeding up one movie but then we're okay with them hyping up another movie where's the consistency in that so we'll see i i like like christian said earlier i want to see it for myself and see what i what i get from it but yeah a ron 100% with 11 reviews okay it's still 100% better than zero what's your favorite movie score to put on during a long road trip for me interstellar at drastic park those are good ones i actually have a list i have like a list of favorite scores that i do i don't have like just one album i just listen to i have i literally have a playlist i just have that i include favorite scores and you just kind of pop through yeah yeah okay so variety dwayne johns roe

IndyWire Johnson's performance is now out wonderful and playlist news join Johnson will bring you two tears all right so there's three notable Yeah, that's good that's good I started to hear it Simon section Christian I haven't seen you and Sam reaction to usual suspects yet But Sam has seen arrival no she hasn't I think usual suspects connected their story ending better than a rival I mean I don't know rival's pretty damn awesome Alex think you missed my super chat let's say Alex guy Let me double check Alex where are you? I mean, I'm going to redo it and see it and I'll bring it up.

I'll see sometimes they pop through here, but let's see Alex, Alex, Alex, where is Alex? Yeah, but I'm excited for Smasher Machine. It is one of my more anticipated movies of the year, I think. Yeah, I agree. You? Oh, yeah, I'm very much looking forward to it. And I hope he, I hope if it's, if he's great in it and I've always said he's a good actor, you just got to find the right material.

Yeah. I hope he kills it. Yeah. Don't confuse criticism. I think people are clearly like, don't confuse criticism of who, of how he acts as a person as criticism of his. Alex,

actually I found it. So I'm very generous to $19, $20 to Richard. Thank you. Coming in late, so I might have been mentioned, real DT3, D23 is Anaheim only happens every two years.

D23 is the Disney fan clubs. This is more of an extra destination event for fans. they do a couple of years, a couple of these years, much love. Yeah, that was mentioned, Alex, a couple of times people have brought it up, but I still, I still think you should, you should call it something else. Yeah. You should call it something else, which I understand all of this. It's like, okay, this is not our thing.

This is not our big thing where we're going to do all our announcements. Don't call it D-23 because it's going to get confusing, as John said, the WrestleMania aspect. Blake Gilbert, who kills each other first in a gun battle? John Wick or Kaiser Sozee, who wins? John Wick. Yeah, it's not even a question. I'm actually like a superhero now.

Yeah. Let's see. Paul Hitchcock, if Christian keeps dipping out on live to see screenings, he's going to be like, God, an absentee landlord, nice. That's the devil's advocate. I know. That's what I got to do. I mean, sometimes I got to miss these, they'll screen stuff.

Like, there's one on four. The beauty is since I moved the show. Yeah. Now, like, even if there's a screening at four, I can do the live show and do the other thing. but like when it comes to um uh the other one of Friday it's like 10 in the morning I won't be back in time so

Carlton Rudder pick one dump one Meryl Streep or Glenn Close I love Glenn Close but you got to keep Meryl Streep Oh yeah you keep Meryl Street Yeah of course Last couple here Scooby Steve what I say Scooby Eve Virtual reactions are early days for you

But to see three of you reacting to the last dragon would be cool. Heroes are forged to a three-man react as possible. Yeah, three men's a little too crowded for me. Love that those guys do it. And they, but too crowded for me. I, and too expensive for me. So I'm, I'm going to, you know, just do the,

just do the two, go back and forth with the editing. Last one for now. Jay Marknell, I just saw Rambo with my father for the first time. The movie was super enjoyable. Which one? First Blood or Rambo? The cops were treating, he saw my first blood. Cops were treating Ramble. He got caught in a son. downtown.

I was telling you, look, I love First Bud. Love it. The book is far superior. Wow. Oh, dude. What? It's darker. Oh, way darker. Yeah. And it's like you're, it was also written in 1972. We're still going on, by the way.

Yeah. And you're in Rambo's head for the entire thing. But the difference is this, you know, in the movie, he really only, was he kill he kills the dogs um but he doesn't and he and he kills the guy in the helicopter kind of by accent just on saxon by throwing the by throwing the rock he doesn't really kill anybody no in the book you know when he's running out of the the the police station and in the you know he punches the guy in the nose he guts the guy in the yeah yeah it's it he kills

everybody kills everybody i think he killed himself at the end too no uh troutman Troutman killed him. And in the, there was actually a deleted scene from the movie where they had Troutman kill Rambo in the, but it didn't work the same way. Plus, Stallone was Stallone and then we wanted to see Stallone die. So,

and then they made a franchise out of it. Last one here is Shane Markell. Getting us to, oh no, I lied. Christopher Brickner is the last one to get us to 79. I'm curious if the audiences will see the new Star Wars films like Starfighter, or if they give up on it like the DCEU,

and if this current canon, can be saved or it's Lucasfilm needs to change the cannon again. I'm curious also. There's no answer to that really. Really is no answer to our films come out. Yeah. And it is no longer, as I used to say, you know, we're baseball in the 50s. It was America's pastime and football overtook it.

Star Wars is no longer the American pastime of pop culture. It just, it just isn't. And Marvel's falling out of that spot now too. But they've got to get people back on board and we'll see if they're going to do it. Thank you guys so much for being here today. 79 on this Monday. Really fun show. John, thanks for being here today, man.

Where can they find you? Yeah, please follow me in all social media at the Roka says. I would appreciate that very much. I picked up like 500 new followers on Twitter. So thank you all so much. I guess that Avengers Doomsday story helped. So please, there's more stuff coming from there. So please make sure you follow me there.

And my YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Roker says. So much happening over there. Get us to 50,000 subscribers. We're so close to crossing 40. So thank you. so much. And thanks, Christian, another Monday, another fun show. And happy Labor Day, everybody. Peace. Thank you to John. Thank you to you guys for being here. Apple Podcasts Spot on Anywhere podcasts are found. We're going to put this up on Spotify as soon as we get off the ear here today.

As I mentioned, Roxy Stryer will be on Wednesday show with Chris Carr. Tomorrow will be myself and Mike Thursday. It'll be Stephs-Sabra. Friday will most likely be Winston and Chris Carr. I'm assuming Chris is going to be able to do it. She told me she was available. So I just have to double check. Um, so you're going to get Chris Carr twice this week and the top Roca at 79. We shall see, tons of reactions coming out. We got the Memento reaction coming out with Sam, hopefully tomorrow, it could be coming out tomorrow. I got the reactions to the digital circus coming out. I'm trying to get back to the future too with Steph. I'm going to try to get Jaws with Winston. I'm going to try to get gladiator with Chris Carr. So there should be,

I'm going to start doing more. You should start to see maybe, three or week, then I'll go four. Eventually when I get enough in the can, we'll start doing one a day if I can do it. It's going to be a little busy, but it's going to be a lot of fun. I'm excited to show people some movies here that they've never seen before and to share them with my pals. So thanks for being here, guys. I really appreciate you.

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