The Kristian Harloff Show - Does Vader Need to Be in the Obi-Wan Series?! (Schmoes Know Reunion, Mark Ellis)

Episode Date: March 21, 2022

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The coys and the Stephs and the Winstons of the world, the Freddie Prince juniors of the world. You're having celebrities on here. And now I just get the short end of the stick. I needed the host of rotten tomatoes on here. I'll see if I can call her. That's what I was hoping for. He needs some milk. Yes, he does. All right, well, we got a lot to talk about. Mark's been watching some stuff on Apple that I've never heard of.

He also finally saw the Batman, which is good. We'll talk about that. There's other stuff that he hasn't seen. He's very excited about turning red. We've talked about that on this show, but I want to get Mark's perspective on it. And everything else. Has he caught up on anything as far as the Marvel shows, The basketball shows.

He's watching that basketball show on HBO on Max. Oh, the real basketball. The real basketball. He's also, they use a real basketball and real basketball barrel. So we're going to talk about that, and then we have to talk about that Obi-Wan trailer.

We have to because we haven't... Oh, is that out? Yeah, he and I have been discussing this for years, and we're finally going to talk about it. But before you do any of that stuff, show a little class and subscribe, will you? Hit the like button, notification button, all of it.

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So make sure you get on over there. All right. It's Mark Ellis. It's me. It's the big thing. Let's do it. Welcome back to box office Sunday. I am me.

He is he. You like that intro? Yeah, where's my paper to flop around? The paper to flop around. Such a good guy. I thought you forgot about that for a while. I forgot about doing the show.

I forgot about box office Sunday in general. I never will ever forget about the floppy paper trick. It's more so than just a trick. It's life. That's strong word for it. I think it's wonderful. Well, it's good to see you, buddy. You too, man.

It's good to be back here. Yeah, it's been a bit. It's been a bit. But finally got you back in studio, hopefully make more of a thing out of this so we can do more. No. Oh, I didn't realize you could see me. Yeah, you're on camera.

Yeah, no, happy to. You got a great radio voice. And look, I wish I could keep you off camera, but unfortunately I can't. You're in there. But I guess I could. Hello, friends. Yeah, just take me off air.

You know what I should do is I should get like a, that's what I should get like one of those old cartoons that they made of you. put that the whole time and just hear your voice. Well, no, it should just be you doing the show by yourself, but then maybe I can be like the announcer that intros. Sure. It's the big thing. Party on Christian.

We just wake you up like every like 35 minutes. I mean, that's the, you always hear stories of like, like, especially people who like focus on just their vocal talents. And they're not necessarily seen. I don't know if they ever have to get out of bed. I mean, that's, that's the goal. Frank Caliando can call into 900 different sports radio shows,

do all of his impressions. all from the comfort of a bathtub or a toilet or a bed. And that's sort of what everybody that I know has seen the future for me. And so now I'm just waiting for that to fully manifest. It's just called being proactive, my friend. I'm tired. I'm being too proactive now because I'm still on camera. I'm trying to.

I do all these things to look handsome and I'm tired of it. Well, I'm tired. I try to go miracles here. But, you know, the other thing that you mentioned that gig, Josh Robert Thompson is one of those people. right? Like he, when he was doing the Craig Ferguson show for the longest time, Jeff the Robot. Yeah. And it's funny as I was talking him about it. And for a long time, and I think that a lot of people, once you have a specific thing that you're known for, like, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's me. I sure I'll do the voice. But then after you don't do it for a bit, you start to appreciate it more and realize it. And I think that's where he ultimately landed. But yeah, did you ever see the clip from him when he actually did Morgan Freeman for Morgan Freeman? I have not seen him do Morgan for Morgan.

Oh, so good. But that's always like the ultimate test, right? Because you never know, like John Madden famously forever did not like Callianna's impression of him. And then I think that they were able to like patch it up somehow. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, that's the thing. It's like George Bush enjoying Dana Carvey's impression of George Bush.

Right. That's the level you want to get to. Right. So this is, this is the actual, this is Jeff was, uh, uh, Josh was doing Jeff for Morgan Freeman. He did it as the robot. So here's the actual clip of Jeff the Robot.

You do know that the other night, maybe a week ago, Jeff the Robot here did a Morgan Freeman voice all night. Did he? Yeah. I don't know. Did he sound like Morgan? Well, I think maybe

if he could, if you're talking about it a little bit now, you could maybe judge it. Do you mind? No, I don't. I'm out. Well, let's see me. Would you like to hear my Morgan Freeman voice? Look at his face. It's a great clip. You can find this on Josh's channel.

See, when I open my mouth, it makes everything sound smart. That's outstanding, Josh. Yeah, it is outstanding. It's very, very good. First time I've ever heard myself from the outside. Yeah. There's through the wormhole keyhole right there. I'd freak you out, that would.

That would. Yeah. Well, what do you want to say to yourself? Yeah, what would you... I don't know. Think of something nice. All right. Let's talk about Craig Ferguson.

No. Go ahead. I dare you. Damn, you look good. He's just so good. I wonder what it's like to have talent. I mean, all those things. Dude, he's so good.

I had him on... I think he was like the first... When I was doing all those digital interviews, he was like the first one that I did. Like after... When we went to... to lockdown again. Yeah, it just writes itself, you know? It's just, it's the easiest hour a host we'll ever have. It's just like, just let me just keep teeing you up. I just throw him bits.

I said, well, here's, we have, we have footage of, uh, of Morgan Freeman auditioning for Sam Jackson's role in, you know, uh, in the Star Wars thing. And he just went off and crushed it. You know, he's just so good. Now, do you feel like you can keep pace? Like, like, do you try to do any of your impressions? We did a couple of good ones. We did Buccy together and he was, we had some fun with that. I did, um, yeah, it was, we did that and, uh, uh, uh, uh, a couple other. I was, uh, uh, uh, a couple other. I was a couple other. I wouldn't, the one thing that I'd actually do with him and you destroy me on was I would do, do you remember back in the day, I don't, I'm assuming you were there. Our mutual friend Tom Connolly did an Arnold oppression and he and I did the Arnold off at,

at the comedy things that we did. I do not remember the Arnold off. I would always win those, right? But against Thompson, you ever hear Thompson's Arnold? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you just have guys that once they're able to walk into how to maneuver, how to figure out with the voices, how to put the time in. it's another level of playing field.

So it's like you're Crash Davis, you know? Yeah. You can knock it out of the stadium in the minor leagues, but you have to the majors. You can have a cup of coffee there, but you're Josh Robert Thompson's of the world. He's so good. It really is. There are a few people out there that are just, you know, obviously our friend Jamie Costa, who they don't do impressions.

They become the people. And that's the major trick. Yeah. That's the major trick. You can't just try to do the voice. You've got to become the person. You got to think like the person. You've got to move like the person.

Your facial expressions have to do the same thing. So it's, and that's what both those guys do. And they can just, and when you hear Josh do like Lucas, he disappears and he becomes George Lucas. As I witnessed firsthand. You did. You did. The hardest, hardest break and don't break moment of my entire life.

I'm sure. Was having to host that as George Lucas. I'm sure. Oh, by the way, and speaking of voiceovers and everything, too, do you see this, this wrestle quest announced? trailer. Do you think I saw it? No, but do you want to hear it? Listen, I want to show you something.

If it's starting. And now, introducing the next great legend of wrestling. From humble beginnings to the electrifying figure, taking the world by storm. Thank you. Bravely embarking on an

epic quest from parts unknown. The journeyman traveling the world to take on that's great. I'm glad they're giving you stuff to do. I know. Get you off the streets because I'm free. How does that feel? Getting to introduce Randy the macho man savage?

It was pretty fun. Yeah, they asked me to do it. And I was like, yeah, sure. Because it's a skybound thing. We're doing it for, and they had watched Friday Night Titans. So they're like, hey, man, you really do that Michael Buffer, Bruce Buffer thing. Can you think you do it for the game? And I'm like, yeah.

Like, you know, it's going to take like, you know, it'll take like an hour of your time. Like, I'm going to take an hour of my time. And first take, one take wonder. It was just a bunch of those lines. It wasn't a matter of, it wasn't a matter of how good I am. It's a matter of just a much of lines. And you just say, you just, you, you say it into the microphone. You go, no, Mark Ellis.

And you just do, how's that? You do four different takes and you send it up. We'll fix it in post. Yeah. It really is true in sports and in, in entertainment and really in all of life. The best ability is availability. If you are, if you're able to do some, you're able to show up, do a good job. That's, that, that's the key to life right there.

And that was like, you know, it was, it was very, it was very fun to do. and the game's getting, the trailer's getting some good buzz on it because it's got a lot of the, I forget how they told me, because I saw a lot of the comments going, how did they get the likeness of all those old school WB wrestlers? They told me and I forgot. And it was like, oh, there's a, there's a wraparound. There's certain wrestlers that they don't own the likeness to and that they get, there's, I forget how it works.

Well, it's like a techmo ball back in the day or NBA Jam because sometimes in techmobole, you would just have like QB Eagles or whatever. because Randall Cunningham wouldn't sign away his rights. And then you also have a situation like Michael Jordan in NBA Jam. Never got Michael Jordan NBA Jam because he was doing his own thing. So there were a couple people like that. But, you know, by and large, it's thrilling for an athlete or I imagine a wrestler to be honored in a video game, whether they're current or whether it's like, hey, I used to wrestle back in the 80s and everybody knows me and I was a badass.

It's kind of cool to see yourself still relevant, you know? Yeah. And especially when you, and it's also good for the. legends, for people who used to watch back in the day that maybe don't watch anymore, right? And then they see like these old school legends that they, that they love. And here they are. And you're like, okay, I'll, I'll play this game. I loved macho man back in day. I loved Andre. Let's, let's see what, and I like these types of games. So that's what rest of quest is. And it looks a lot of fun. I'm excited to play. We're going to try to do some more stuff with them with

Shmowdown also. Good. I'm excited. Yeah. You're like. I just, you know, come in here. You tell you. telling me about how great everybody else is. Oh, I love a video game. Well, look, I'm loving everything you're doing. What the hell am I here for? I've been enjoying your shows. I've been watching them.

No, you haven't. I have. You've literally done nothing. I was on your show once. Which show? The Rotten Tomatoes show. The Ro, Rotten Tomatoes is wrong? Yeah, you were great with your big painting in the background.

Yeah, that's it. With your pride and joy? The horse passed away recently. That horse did? The real one. Oh, no. Yeah, I think, like, a couple months ago. Oh, boy.

Natural causes? I don't know. I don't know the horse. I don't know that. I assume so. I mean, how long do horses live? I don't know.

I don't know how else the horse could pass. If it's not racing anymore. You know what? It probably died in the act of studying, which is how we all should go. Studying? Studying. The big,

big difference between studying and studying. Yeah. Should I review? I was going to review, I don't want to do that. I was going to review my, I went to see my daughter's play last night. Ah,

it sounds like a... Sounds like a problem. It sounds like an issue. And it also sounds like a issue. A big of views problem? Like abuse problem? Maybe some clicks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Might be lacking in your review of your daughter's first grade. I'm talking about right now. I was talking about right now. Oh, I would love to hear how it went. I'm sorry I missed it. I don't want to put, I don't want to. I wasn't invited, be honest with you all. Actually, you know, I was going to invite you today.

I got an extra ticket tonight. You want to go? So you got something to do now. I'm performing myself. So, see. Well, you know. How big is the crowd there? 4,000.

I'm in. There's 4,000 people. You can do a set to open up and warm it up. As long as you introduce me. Yeah. I don't like the casting choices. That's my review. You know, like the casting choice, including your daughter?

I'm sure she was great. My daughter needed to do more, but that's, I'm being one of the society, Beauty and the Beast. And who is she? She should have been Lumier. She knew the whole thing back and forth, but she got, she got, she got stuck down to be in the baker. She's a fourth grader, and all the fifth graders got the big parts. So I'm being, I'm being the soccer dad right now. What does the baker do in Beauty and the Beast other than wave to Bell

the beginning of the movie? He says Marie and he tells Marie to get the baguettes and then he's and then you kind of, but, but showing you the comedic timing of my kid. She does the whole, you know, there's a line where Bell's saying something. He goes,

yeah, that's nice. And, but with the timing, you can get a laugh out of it. And she got a laugh out of it. She got to laugh. But this is,

you're going to respect this note. So there's this thing where they do with all the villagers at one point and, and they're talking about. Maurice and how nuts he is. And so what they did for this show is they had everybody kind of like laughing. And I go, you know, wait for the timing of it. And when you can wait until it starts to die down, say, he's nuts, right? And so she does it.

And she does it during the rehearsal, get some big laugh. She goes, that I got a big laugh. I go, all right, we'll try. I said, did the director say anything? She's like, no, I shouldn't say anything. I go, try it again. Do it, yeah. So she-

To beg for forgiveness than ask permission. 100%. So she did it in the first show that they did. And the director was like, don't, don't try to ad lip. Don't steal. Oh, come on, Coppola. 100%. Don't steal the spotlight.

And it was like, I guess I said, I, Bronx told her. I said, he took a shot. So what are you going to do? Well, because then your loyalties as a parent or as a performer yourself really start to go at odds with one another. Because you don't want to steer the kid to like get a bad grade in case there's going to be some sort of fallout from her not performing the play. because you know writers, you know directors. They want the credit for everything. Don't ad lib, don't step out of frame, all that crap.

And then you also have the performer in you who's like, I know this is going to kill. So it's okay to paint out the lines this one time. I think you're making the right play here. Because the other thing you're doing, though, is that you're making her more competitive to get that line out. And when she's a fifth grader next year, do we know what the play is next year?

Yeah, but remember, she was sheer con before the whole world went to crap. She was sheer con. And she killed it. She was like, and I'm not just saying it because she's my kid. She was the best thing in the whole play. The villains that were more fun to play sometimes. And she had the timing of it and all,

everything too. I sent you the footage of it when she did it. And she was great. But the, like I said, they, the reason that they cast this play the way that they did is because the fifth graders are leaving. So they gave all the fifth graders to be parts. And the next year,

she's the fifth grade. Junior high. Some of them not going to Julia. I'm really tired of. I'm not going to Juilliard. I'll tell you that much. Like when I was a kid, we graduated high school.

Yeah. That's it. That was the graduation ceremony. It wasn't every year. Now it's like it seems like these kids live like the Billy Madison life. Right. Where every time they get through another grade, there is like, all right, bring in the circus. Yeah, right.

Hire the clowns. Everything else. Let's get a band to play. It's like your kid should now enjoy the summer. That's what, that's what your reward is. Right. And you just smashed our iPads. Just, I mean, I know they're the ones that are going to have to deal with, you know, the apocalypse.

So I guess let them have their fun while they can. Agreed. I know you've been, you've been. doing the, I don't know what you've been doing. I don't know, I was going to bring up. What you set me up for here? I was going to set you up for something else. Throw me under the bus?

No, I'm not going to set you up for this one because I don't, I don't think that you. I don't know what he was going to say, folks. Yeah, I was going to talk about some of your sports stuff that you do. We'll talk about that later. There's something else. I don't know they do a lot of sports stuff. No, you watch a lot of sports stuff. It's true.

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But my real existence. You know what I spent? I'm going to say this is the longest time that I ever spent looking for my keys this morning. What happened? I do it all the time. So my car key and my house key are separate. They're on separate. Occasionally they unite.

But sometimes I take them off because sometimes I'm just going, taking the dog for a walk. I don't want to look my car key around. So I wake up this morning. I'm going to the gym and I got to be at the gym by 550. So I wake up around five. I get up and I'm looking and I'm looking everywhere. Can't find the keys. So what I end up doing is I just leave and I leave some doors unlocked so as I know I can get back in because I don't want to wake anybody up now.

I'm looking everywhere. I am looking in the freezer. I am looking in the pantry. No keys anywhere. Spent another hour searching for it after I got back from the gym before I came to here. And I got a text from a neighbor. And I'm not sure exactly how they came about them yet. because there was a spill outside that I cleaned up myself.

So I'm a nice guy. I don't know if I dropped them then, but Christian, I feel like, and I think you've done this before once in your life too. I think I got home and I think I was tired. I didn't imbibe at all. Okay.

No drinking. Okay. Got home and I think I left my keys in the door. Look, I'm not going to really give you too much crap on that. I've done it. Who does that as an adult, though? I mean, maybe we all have done it.

I think my, look, was way more responsible than either one of us has done that before where you just coming in a rush you left it you left it into the door where where is it normally if like so i i my key my wife loses her phone all the time i lose my keys all the time and what i did um rather lose keys i think yeah it's they and age rather lose it's way more it's way more it's it's there's more stress with the with the phone loss that one i don't i don't lose but the but the keys oh man this is this was a good one so and I blame, I definitely blamed my wife for the last time I lost them for a while.

Like so she had, that sounds like a fight you're going to lose. She had, well, she had used them. What is she? She used them for something. I went to the beach with the little one or something and then came back and I couldn't find him. And I'm like, it's got to be her fault. It's been over a month and I couldn't find him.

Right. So like you had to have. I'm like, I didn't, I didn't go anywhere with it. You had to. She's like, I'm telling you. I didn't. Is that the tone of voice you used? Yes.

Was it raised? Yeah. I actually wasn't, no, I actually wasn't upset at all. Because we had another set of keys for the car. So we were just using that set. But for the longest time, we couldn't find them. Couldn't find them at all. So the night we were going, we ran out on a date.

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I go, let me, I heard something in your jacket. You a-hole. And then I go, but very, very, like, you know. That's hilarious. Yeah. This very not, not discreet about it. And I go, oh, like a bad magic trick. Oh.

And she's like, where were the fucking asshole? And so. That's the thing about your wife. She is such a great bullshit detector. Oh, yeah. She cuts right to the court. Like, if she was on Doubledair, she wouldn't even need to mess around with all that pudding.

She knows exactly where the red flag is every time. She just reaches in, pulls out a red flag. flag every time. That's it. That's your only double dear reference that you're allowed to make on this show. Oh, come on. I haven't done one in so long. I used to do a joke about it. I can't remember what it was, but it was good. Yeah. It was good. Mark Summers's name. Yes. On the Comedy Store wall. Did you ever see that? You've had to have seen that clip with Mark Summers and Bert Reynolds and Burr Reynolds, right? I don't believe I have. Are you kidding? No. I have no idea what you're talking to. Oh, they get into like a, like, I have to bring, I have to bring this up. They get in a fight? Yeah. Mark Summers and Bert, Burrounds are a real

asshole to him. I can't believe you've never seen this before. I can't believe. So if anybody has never... Yeah, you should have seen how Christian dispelled Mark Summers. Whatever. Did you have finger removal surgery and replace him with JT? I type with my fat thumbs all the time and things are misspelled.

No, nobody knows about fat digits like me. Is this it? Okay, so I don't know how much of the second. Oh, my gosh. Felix Unger. I'm a neatness fanatics. So it's just kind of weird that I've been, for the last nine years, doing that kind of TV. And we've done some weird things on the show.

We once filled a container with 4,000 pounds of baked beans and made kids dive into it, which was really great. Gee, I wish I'd seen that. You would have to make the kids. I mean, you force the child, you hold the child's head under the big beans, and then throw them out. We have an obstacle course. Who told you were a neatness freak?

I just said that because your back is to me, and I was just talking to a back. No, no, I can talk to you, too, Bert. Thank you. Watch out. He's got scissors. He's got scissors. No, I was just wondering who told you that because... My wife tells me that often. She says, good morning.

I'm still married, as a matter of fact. Yes, well, you... Oh. Ah, that's the Burton-Lani time, right? Oh! Dumped water on him. Look. Oh!

Oh! No, no needness freak anymore. No. I think he... I think he... Isn't that crazy? That is that. That is great.

It would be a sort of assault. If that happens today. All right. And there's more because I think he nails him. I think he, what does he do? They do like a thing at the end. Well, yeah, they probably had. No, no, look.

Yeah, they do. Thank you, Fabio. Oh, yeah. Your show all the time. Winless your draw. I used to love that show. Funny, I don't remember. Wow.

Okay. Yeah. So anyway, we were talking about being a neatness fanatic. Yeah, it's talking about being a neatness fanatic. But you started out as a magician. I'm not mistaken. What's this? Oh,

that's all right. Thank you. I think he nails him again. Yeah. Oh, there you go. He nailed. And then he nailed. I'm a full-on team summers here.

Of course. Bert was being a real assort to him. And then they did this. But watch. They hit each other in the face with pies. And, oh, he goes at it. But what's his face?

Bert hits him hard. Yeah. watch the back the face the back to back yeah oh that's a good smash bert bert like was looking to knock him out yeah like so if you guys have never seen that i just love when actors take themselves that seriously anybody takes himself that seriously yeah he was like like i i because i know exactly i think i do where where bert was coming from where he's thinking like i'm this esteemed regal prestigious a list actor and this guy's this guy's some game show host right and so he's like talking down to him and it's like dude you're playing pretend you know you play pretend for oh he was he was

he was definitely playing up the villain on it and like mark summers has talked about that many times i'm so shocked you never heard of that before no i never heard but you know me i don't actually enjoy if i see a conflict i want to help out and resolve it as quickly as possible i don't want to escalate now maybe it got better a lot of those those twitter fights that i sent you um years remember those Remember those to 30 second fights that I would find? Well, yeah, but those are like, those aren't necessarily uncomfortable. Those are two people who actually doing what I want to do

solve the situation as quickly as possible. But when it festers, when there's just like an uncomfortableness, that's when I want to step in and mediate. And I get, I get Leno is looking at this and he's like, this is kind of ratings gold. So let me just, let me milk this for all it's worth.

Adam Ray, by the way, great Leno on the Tommy and Pamela's show. Yeah, it was. And it was for what he was asked to do, I think he did a phenomenal job. There was when he first started it up, it was like, I was worried not on his part. I thought he crushed it. It was, I was worried it was going to be a little cartoonie in the directing of it. But he, but he wind up, the way that he wound up bringing it towards reality, I thought was really good.

When he is actually, when you get to see Leno in the writer's room. And he's just sitting around in his denim and just sort of kicking stuff around. Yeah. It was like, that's when I felt like I've never seen this, I believe it was Leno, but I've never seen this Leno before. Yeah. Where he's just kind of like, you know, thrown around jokes. I'm like yes and no. And then, and you go back and you watch some of those monologues that were happening about that tape at that time. Did you watch the whole show? Yeah, I did. Watch the whole time.

It's great. It's really good. It really does put an exclamation point on. And there's a couple scenes between Tommy and Pamela in the show where you realize, like this is actually a pretty nice feather to have in Tommy Lee's cap, so to speak. Even though he didn't want the tape out, I'm not saying that, but the tape comes out and it affects him very differently than it did Pamela. Right. Well, look, there's a lot of things, too. I mean, it was when was the last time you seen Barb wire, by the way? I don't think I've ever.

It's atrocious. I can imagine it's not the best comic book film. So it's not the dark night. No, it had nothing to do. Like they were playing, it certainly didn't help that that tape came out around the same time, right? But it had nothing to do with why the movie failed. The movie was terrible. Tomor Morrison, by the way, is in that movie.

He's one of the main guys. But no, but that doesn't mean that you do, she is the pure victim inside of all of this when you watch it and you see it. And Lily James is such a great job. Oh, man. Really good job as, and they both do, Sebastian Stan as well. And it's funny because when you look at it, did you look at it? Did you look at Seth Rogen is pretty much just playing Seth Rogen in the whole show? He's Seth Rogen, the whole show.

But he has more of an advantage to do that than Sebastian Stan and Lily James. Because we have no idea who that guy. Who is that guy? No one knows who that guy is. So it's like you can, because when you look at the side by side pictures, like when you look at Tommy Lee and Pam look just like him, he looks nothing like this. The costuming and incredible. I felt like I was in the mid-90s. It was incredible.

I did, too. I was a little lukewarm on the show, the first episode or two. Oh, okay. I, because you'll do a little too over the top of the talking penis? It wasn't the talking penis that did it. I was already by that point, I was like, this just feels a little too, I don't know, it felt like heightened reality or something like that.

Like painting game? Sort of, yeah. But then I, then it settled into it. Or maybe the edible kicked in. And I just, and I got into a nice pace with it. And then I really. thought it was it was one of the better shows that I've seen in a long time that dealt with an actual you know, thing that went on. Yeah, they told it down. They toned it down for sure because I think that

if you would have done that for the entire series, that would have been tiresome. I didn't mind it in the context of how they used it. You had to show the way they were living and the excess of the time. Right. And I think because it could have gone so dramatic and made you feel so icky about what happened that by putting that kind of humor in it, it gives you that feel of, okay, this is a comedy, but they're not disrespecting ultimately everything that, like, if they would have done that kind of stuff with the ramifications of the sex tape and all that, then, then you have an issue. Then you have an issue, but this is, like you said, this is as they were meeting and the craziness, the rock star who, you know, like all of that. And it, they, they never put too fine of a point on it,

which is actually what I appreciate about the show in later episodes is that it was never overtly like, hey, the 90s are here. Motley crew was a relic of the 80s, but there were hints of that. And I love the scene when Tommy rolls up to the studio and he's hanging out with Nikki and they realize that they don't have the A studio anymore. And they walk in, they're like, who is a fallout boy or somebody's in there? And it's basically, I can't remember who it was, but they're like, hey, we don't care about you anymore. Right. Yeah, I think that was more so the point because I was looking at the real facts and that they, and I think that the Molly crew disputed that that ever happened, but whatever. It doesn't matter. It seems like something Molly

crew would want to own. But the gangster stuff, Dice was great. Dice was great. Dice was great. Dice was great. And when, and that whole thing was true. Nick Arfman was great too. Yeah.

And all that stuff was the truest to all of it. Like that dude had to start collecting bounties for that dude for the gangster and how much money. The other guy hauled ass and took off. He was really married to that porn star. Like there was, I mean, they played a lot in reality. Do you remember, I don't know if you remember this, but when we shooting grass been at Straws and then when we were at Silver, there's an intern super, super sweet girl, Ali Krug.

That's a great question. No. So she's an executive producer on that show now. And she is like, did she hook us up with some stuff at Comic-Con? No, no, no, that was somebody else. That was Andy who does that. Andy, okay. Yeah, no, Ali Krug.

I'll get your first letter of your name. It's true. No, Ali Krug was a, she couldn't be a nicer human being. She's a sweetheart. And she, I saw recently she was listed in the, or a couple of years ago, she was listed as one of the under whatever it was age-wise top executives to look out for. And this, you know, I've known her since like,

not an underage executive. Well, no, no, under a certain age, under a certain age. No, she's 14 and she's making moves. The top kid executives, green lighting moves. It's true. It's like that Frankie Munoz movie. He has a Frankie Munoz pull. What was that movie that he did when he was like,

The kid had the, it was that in Brian. Agent Cody Banks? Is that what it was? Agent Cody Banks. And then there was another one, the kid from family ties, not Michael J. Fox, the other kid, the little kid with the blonde hair. He did a movie too, something like that. What the hell that was?

What was that kid's name? Why are you tuning into the big thing? I don't know. Are you thinking of the kid from growing pains, Mike Severs' little brother? No, that's Ben. He was in some stuff. Yeah, he was in some stuff. No, he wasn't.

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It's funny how like you look at your drawers with clothes in them and you always have your starters and your bench players. Like I've probably worn this on the show five times. I don't think anything else. Because it's like, you know, I do wander. I have a washer. I have a dryer, probably where the keys were hiding. And I use that. Yeah. I use it liberally. You give your favorite stuff. Yeah. And so then you open it up and it's like you look at that like pair of boxers. It's like in the back and it's like not today, sparky. Maybe someday. You're just, you're too rigid or you too uncomfortable or I should have thrown you out a long time ago. But I'm keeping you around for sentimental purposes. One of the things I'm trying to eliminate for my life is like any sentimentality whatsoever. Just get rid of it. See, I'm the opposite. Just get rid of it. Just get rid of it. I'm going to have shoes.

I'm going to have 75 different pairs of shoes from my kids that are never going to get thrown away. Oh, well, once you have kids, you got to keep all that crap because they might want it. My mom's going through that right now. But it's also, I'm like it with, we were cleaning out the closet and my wife was like, I can't throw these out. I'm like, nah, you can't throw those out. Like, you remember when Vivie had these on and she did this? Like, yeah, whoever's going to use them ever again, who knows, but you just, you just can't. Probably not her.

Probably not. grown out of it. Yeah, I know, but who knows? Like you said, maybe they're in good condition. Maybe your kid uses it down the line. I don't know. So there's three kids in the family, right? And mom always like threatens to sell the house. I got confused for a second. I thought you're talking about me. I'm like, I have another one I don't know about it. I have three children. Okay. And so like, like, she'll do like a, like a bi-annual phone called each one of us and be like, hey, I'm really selling this time. Yeah. Really going to, really going to put it on the market. So I need you kids to, to come home and look at your closet. Yeah. And,

if there's anything you want. And the last time that happened, fairly recently, both my brother and my sister were like, I don't care, throw it all away. And I was like, do not touch my closet. I need to fly home. I need to see what athletic merchandise is in there. Yeah. What gaming merchandise is in there, the comic books that are in there could be valuable.

Could be my retirement. See, that's exactly right. Because you're lucky that your mother did that. I'm hoarding from afar. Yeah, my mother did nothing of the sorts. She just threw it out. And this is when I was like 18. All my Star Wars stuff, all my great stuff that I had,

all my, the, the, the, the, G.I. Joe. It would have been valuable. Easily. She didn't give a shit right out the door. Right, right, whether she gave it away or whatever it went. My dad had these old, like, old school, like Sports Illustrated. Like the, the, I mean, you're talking 60s. Oh, you're going to break my heart.

All gone. All gone. She just tossed them all out. And then there was also the, I mean, they were all baseball cards and everything. I can't even, thousands of dollars, my mother. He could have had a Sports Illustrated around that time with Cassius Clay on the cover. There's no doubt. Oh, dude, he had, he had a subscription from the 60s and the 70s, whatever it was.

And there were tons of them in the attic. She got rid of all. I mean, I'm telling you, my, my mother threw out thousands of dollars worth of stuff. And just like, get taken up space, taking a space. It's, that's, that's, I bet your mom. And she does not, she does not, she does not, I'm telling you. She watches, oh, that's, oh, that's, that's, That's, well, no one else, no one, your father should have picked him up.

That's what should have happened. Oh, your son's a doctor? Well, mine does voiceover on the wrestling video games. Oh, yeah. You might, my son is doing, oh, he made that much money. My son got very, got in trouble for screaming about a theme park on the, on the internet. My son introduced macho man Randy Savage. Yeah, very proud of my son.

Anyway, so let's talk. Parents are proud of. Yeah, let's talk about, let's talk about. Let's talk about Obi-1 because you and I have been debating this for years. We have. So what do you think of the trailer? Loved it. See, son of a bitch.

Absolutely. I didn't say I wouldn't love it. I never said that. Were you waiting to see Anakin? My point that I was making was that I didn't need to see another fight between Obi-1 and Darth Vader to complete my Star Wars existence. And I still don't. But were you waiting for to see him in the trailer?

No. I thought they would hold that back. And so, and I get the breathing. Like they've done that. a foreign trailers and it's always awesome. I'm glad they didn't show them by the way. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. I, and I feel like, like, look, is it going to be awesome? This is the way I, I sort of contextualize it is like, you can look at my football team right now. We just picked up Carson Wentz to be our quarterback. Am I thrilled about that move? I don't know. How do I know? The answer is no.

Okay. Not at all. But am I still going to be cheering for them week one? Right, of course. I am. Right. So maybe Star Wars doesn't always go the way that I think it should go, but I'm a dope. So I'm still going to show up. And if I like something, that I see, I'm going to love this show. Right. No, will I have questions about how it all ties to the canon that I at least knew from the classic trilogy? Sure I am.

So do you think, right now, though, do you think that Darth Vader should be in this series? Right now from the way that they set it up after watching the trailer, do you think you should be in the series? I don't have a problem with him being in the series. Should or shouldn't. It depends on how it's executed. It depends on how much, I think, because you don't, well, like, and again, my fear with this was that it was just going to be leaning too much on Darth Vader.

Yeah, I don't think so. Because they saw everybody loved Darth Vader the end of Rogue One, which I did too. It was great. But if that's the sort of thing that we get, that I'm totally on board. And you look at, you know, everybody's going to have the question like, well, why is he still going by Luke Skywalker if they're trying to hide him? It's guys, it's another galaxy. Right.

Just relax. Well, I think, I think that what they're going to do is I think it'll be sprinkled in a little bit more than Rogue One, but similar to what they did in rebels. and with rebels he was in it a good amount. But Vader? Yeah, but he was sprinkled in at points where it was relevant to it and they're going to lean heavy the same way they did rebels on the Inquisitors, right?

And the inquisitors are going to be kind of hunted them down and doing everything that they have to do. And Vader will be there because I think you are going to get a flashback with Hayden and, and E. It's got to be why you, because. Why do you put him in the suit? That was my reaction when I first saw Hayden and everybody was like, I can't believe this is so awesome. Is he going to be doing anything else other than hiding behind a suit?

Well, we just talked about the deep fake stuff, right? And you don't have to like massively deep fake him. You just got to take like, so I watched, did you watch the Adam Project? No. Oh, it's good, man. You like it. I heard it's good. It's good.

I finished it. But they do a deep fake for, for Catherine Keener in it, right? Gosh. She's a gem. And so they, and I actually think that they, I think they did deaging, which was more, which is more noticeable. Yeah, I'm not sure what the, is a difference between nomenclature is.

Yeah, there's a de-aging thing and then there's deep fake, right? Yeah, there's two separate offices. Yes, so de-aging is what they did for Luke Skywalker in the, in the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, mandolarian season two. Uh-huh. Deep fake is what they did for Luke Skywalker in, in, uh, in, in, uh, in Bobafed. Okay. Okay.

So, which one did you like better? Deep fake. One, one, one billion percent. It's, it's, it's not noticeable. It's not as noticeable. It's almost like, holy crap. How did they do that? Some people even thought, what did they get an actor that looks just like Mark Hamill?

Yeah. So, and they got a guy that does it on YouTube, Shamook, I believe is the guy's name. And he did, he reimagined that Luke won from Mandalorian and deep faked it. And then he got a job. That's how we got the gig. That's right. I remember you telling me that. Yeah.

So, and he was great. And I think that that's, I think they're going to use him as they should. And they'll de-age or deep fake a younger version of, of Hayden onto him. self, right? And it'll be easier to do. And then you'll see some flashbacks in in clone wars and they'll have a few conversations, which can then piece into a few things that lead up to it. The bigger question I have, and I'd assume the answer to this is force ghost. He's also been announced, Hayden has been announced to be in the Osoka series. And that takes place like after, during the time of Mandalorian and Jedi. So he's got to be either forced ghost or flashbacks. Yeah. So what is, I mean,

you know how I feel about this whole Vader being redeemed thing, where it's like it's cute, you apologize to your kid right before you died, but, um, he did some stuff. There's some other stuff. So, so what is your force goes like?

Are you like Jacob Marley where you just got to drag around a bunch of chains, but you still also get to be blue? You just get to hang out because, because the end of return of the Jedi, he's just hanging out. Now, what I think is it in the next, in the next life,

they're like, look, douche, we're going to let you have this photo op to make your kid happy. We're not doing this for you. Right. We're doing this for the fans. And so Luke gets to see him and Luke's like, oh, good. Dad's in a better place.

As soon as that photo op was done, I think that they send Darth Vader down to the basement. And they're like, you are going to be mining souls or whatever you do in the next life. Totally. For eons before we ever let you see the light of day. Yeah, I know. It's like one of those things where he's just, so you didn't see Winter Soldier and Falcon a Winter Soldier, did you? I've seen parts. So there's a thing that he has to do after because of all the stuff that he's done.

Because you feel the same way about the winter soldier. right and put him on ice and wherever or just just kill them out right i actually think there's a major difference between the winter soldier and and anakin but um but the winter soldier had to go around and apologize to all the people and make amends to everything that he that he had done it's like a 12 step 1,000 percent is what it was and i think that's the same type of thing annaissance goes the difference is dear lord please grant me to the strength to not murder any superhero parents but but but that's the thing the winter soldier was not his it wasn't him it was a it was a it was a it was a it was a a program where his mind was melted and he didn't even know what the hell was going on, right?

And it could make the choice to, to slaughter Mace Windew and then become a douche on weird. To go to the dark side. It made a choice. If I was prosecuting this, or rather if I was, if I was the defense attorney for Darth Vader, then I would say like, well, look, his mind was also manipulated by this overwhelming dark side of the forest kind of thing. But that's different, though.

But you're still, you have, but he had the choice when he's right there with me. Mace is like, take him in with me. He had the choice. He could have, everyone's talking to him, his hubris, his anger, is the love, the passion, he made the choice. Winter Soldier didn't make the choice. He was sitting in and got a bunch of shit stuck into his head. But I could also counter that by saying that who do we want to hang out with now?

Because I at least feel like Anakin, he did atrocious crimes for many, many years. But I do by the fact that if he survived, he would have been like, no, I'm not going back to that way of life. You know, problem with the Winter Soldier. I always had anger issues, man. Again, I don't know how many deep codes that they implanted into his head. And so he goes to Wakanda and they kind of cure him of maybe one of those string of commands. Maybe there's another command that you just say soup, apples, beef. And then he just starts murdering people again.

Put him on it. But see, I hit him out of him. He might give a little bit more because he his real. Make him play a Molly crew drummer before. His real personality, he's a good guy. Anakin's real personality, he has the tendencies to snap. And he even did it even look, look at how he was. was trying to coerce a freaking Padmae in the first place.

And in episode two, he's like a creepy stalker. Yes, my lady. Your Honor, permission to strike that from the record because sand was involved. Oh, that's true. Yeah, doesn't like sand. So, okay, you're asking for my honesty here with this Obi-1 trailer. And again, I'm not going to be beholden to anything I said two or three years ago. I know the internet works like that.

Yeah. I have the right to change my mind. Of course you do. Did you? And we can go back away here. Did you ever think that there was. No. That there was another battle between Obi-1 and Darth Vader, between Mustafa to a new hope.

At what point are you asking me that question? Ever? Are you asking ever? I'm going to, obviously ever. I always thought it was open-ended and I'll tell you what. You always thought it was open-ended. I always thought it was open-ended because of the line that was given in return of the Jedi. And more so open-ended, I think, after Revenge of the Sith is when I was more open-ended.

Not before the prequel. So I think more open-ended after that Because what you see What you see in Revenge of the Sith He's going to Moostafar Not because he thinks there's good left in Anakin He's going there And Yoda says you gotta go there and get him

Because he's gone. This is a Sith And he's like, yeah And he's going there to kill Anakin I don't want to know how you do it Take care of the problem Going there to kill him And when he goes there

He goes and he fights him And he knows and he just gives him one He gives one question You know to see he's like okay This guy's far gone I gotta kill him and he lets his body burn and figures that he's dead. When Padme is dying with Wuba, when she's dying there,

she says to Obi-Wan, they're still good in him. I know that they're still good in him. At what point does Obi-Wan think that? He doesn't think that at all. So then in return of the Jedi, Luke says to him, you know, Father, they're still good in you. And he's like, Obi-Wan once thought as you did. When?

When do you think that? So now I think that's when we're going to see that. I could answer that very simply that he's, thought there was good in Anakin, and I think part of that was when he went to Mustafa and asked him the question. He did ask him a question. But he gave him an opportunity. Did he not?

He didn't really, he didn't. Did he give an opportunity? He was asking questions, but he didn't say, I still think there's good in you the way because it was Padmey that says to him on that table, they're still good in him. I believe it. And Obi-One's thinking about it and he's like, I don't know. And that's what they're going to play off of in this episode. I think if you're an American, when you're fighting him on Mustafa, you're looking at that

question, and you're like, this dumb idiot thinks they're still good to me. I'm all bad, baby. That's how I read it. And I think that that is, that is what we were set to believe. And so now, he says it. He said he brought him here to kill me. I do feel like we're massaging the cannon a little bit. And again, I'm fine with that.

The canon could be a living, breathing thing that maybe it trades some things. And, and just like, I don't want to be totally behold into whether I still think 13 hours is five out of five schmows. It is. Then I don't think that the canon should be subject like, well, Obi-1 said this in 1977. seven, but it just, and so my hesitation with this is not that I never want to see Vader again or even have them have a skirmish. I just don't want a show about Obi-One to be too reliant on Darth Vader. I agree. Because that feels like you're, you're grasping at straws to be like, hey, remember this cool character? Please watch our show. I don't think they need that. No, it shouldn't,

that shouldn't be the only thing. It should be part of the overall soup of what this thing is, right? It should be the idea. And he says it. It's a great line of like, he's broken down, he's beaten, he feels that they've lost. You know, he's trying to. loved that where they're just like it's like you're you're recouping from getting knocked out of the tournament in the first round last year they got their asses kicked right and and it's and you saw it in episode four when he's like before the empire before the dark times like that's been weighing on him and you see that throughout and he's just trying to make his way and be in like blend in on tatooine looking after this kid owen wants nothing to deal with him and he's got all that stuff

plus now you got the inquisitors hunting for all the jedi and trying to figure out you know how to how to how to wipe everyone out he's got to he's got to do so much and plus the fit. Now you see him on a different planet. So he's probably dealing with other things. There's a lot of stuff that he's dealing with right now. I'm going to see Biggs. I want to see Biggs Darklighter be the guy that sells Luke a fake ID and a fake passport. So that's how nobody knows it.

It's Luke. He was just buying, he was buying converters at Tashi Station. And he used a fake ID. And they're like, well, it's not Skywalker. This guy's name is McLeaven. So no, it's somebody else. Yeah, that was bad storytelling by Georgie. So it really was.

Here's the thing. I feel like I'm going to be fine with this, whatever Vader's involvement is if I still need to bridge those, what, maybe 10 years between this show and a new hope? No, no, no. This show and a new hope. Yeah, about nine years. Okay.

What I need to bridge that because Obi-1 is markedly older than Ewan McGregor looks in this show. So what I need to see what one son can do to someone's skin? I've been to Florida. Yes. The question that I need answered is, what did Obi-1 experience? And we'll probably see that play out.

during the events of the show that aged him up, you know, because he's going to see Owen too. Owen as well. I mean, Owen, you look at Owen and that's something like what, 19 years in between Revenge of the Sith and Owen and Peru, they aged quick. I just want, I want to see Joel Edgerton just walking around just doing nothing but mumbling about the goddamn jaw was. It's right. Well, look, the goddamn jaw was. The Owen, the Owen stuff, I think they're really going to, they have to explore. I think that's going to be a big thing with him and Canobey. Well, you got Joel Edgerton.

That's, that's right. And Debra Chow says as much. Debrichael says as much. She said, thank you to George for giving us Joel Edgerton. And that's all I'll say about that. That's right. Yeah. So, like, she's very excited about that to.

And we're going to, you even see it. Even though that's, it looks like the inquisitor, the inquisitor, what's, what's her name? Reva comes in. And she's basically questioning or talking to everybody. side of the square. Now what I had guessing, you know, is that when you see, you see that the, the boots that are hanging in that scene,

it's got to be either Jedi or something that's kind of run into the, runs a tattooing, maybe to warn Obi-Wan or something. And so they're on the search for them. And maybe that's when, because you see that scene when she's talking and, and Owen is just like, all right, this is getting worse and worse. All right. A couple quick, rapid fire question. for you. And this is do we or do we not see the following characters? Yeah. And I'm going to lump them together to start out.

R2D2C3PO. Do we see them? Yes, because I think Jimmy Smith is in this from what the rumor is. And I think he's got both of them. So yeah, I do. Okay. Yoda? No. Darth Mall. No. And that that report was debunked also. I didn't see a report. It was a report that he was in the original TV script by the Hollywood reporter. And then Pablo Hidalgo said this is utter bullshit. Okay. Job of the Hut. Nah.

You stay away from. Slatious Chrome. You stay away from it. Okay. The announcers from the Boonta Eve classic. You want me to stop watching this show. Come on. It's us.

If we were ever going to be in Star Wars, that's the opportunity. Give them subtitles as stupid NASCAR voices. And now coming around the corner. It was terrible. But you know who you... I'm surprised who you didn't ask about. In outer space. I'm not done yet.

Okay, go ahead. Princess Leia. Yes. Okay. That's all you got? That concludes my question. You don't ask Quigon first? I have a feeling...

I would bet more on Quigon being in the show than I would Yoda. Yeah, me too. But I think that you're probably going to at least have a line from old Frank. I think that there's going to be some sort of... Maybe. Maybe there could be. Some sort of raven.

Well, they set it up. and rebels that he was that he's communicating uh for sure and i think that but but you're saying no shot lead pipe lock no darth mall no mall at that point where mall is at the what they've set up and he's he's running crimson dawn from what we see in solo he's running how do the this is where your brain is bigger than mine how do the crimson dawn folk feel about the inquisitors about the empire about vader are they tight do they play softball no i don't think they play together because are they aware I mean, obviously, Shrimp's a dog's aware of them. Maul had serious beef with Palpatine again.

They fought, they fought, him and his brother fought against Palpatine. Palpatine and whooped that ass. Whop that ass? Tompawl shows up. He's like, hey, not only am I going to kick your ass, my brother Jerry is home from college. Yeah. And they got, and, well, Palpatine took him out, killed his brother, wiped him out. His brother's just wearing like a, like a conditionious sweatshirt.

They were trying to, they were trying to play to his ego. They had a Palpatine jersey on, but he just swept her right off. Who would you bet to win on that fight? If you had Palpatine versus Vader and Mal, who would you bet on? And before you answer that, before you answer that, if you really want to take some bets, ladies and gentlemen, you go to My Bookie. You got to My Bookie. That's what you do.

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Vader defeat a very distracted Emperor Palpatine at the other than a Jedi. But he did it with goodness. He did it with goodness. He did it on, he needed light side stuff. Are we really still under this impression that the light side of the force is just as strong as the dark side of the force? Come on.

It depends. The cards are on the table. The dark side. It didn't seem able to do it against Palpatine. Okay, well, but here's the thing I have. Because if you have Darth Vader, I would almost rather take Darth Vader by himself against Palpatine, simply because I don't know how Vader and Mall worked together.

I don't know. If they have good chemistry. Vader knows he needed somebody else. It's why he tried to recruit Luke. But if they have good chemistry, then I think they could defeat Palpatine. One on one, I wouldn't say Palpatine defeats either one of them. but if they have good, if they work well together, but if it turns into like a James Harden,

Kyrie Irving situation where there's only one ball, luckily, you can bring your own lightsaber to this party. I'm taking Maul and I'm taking Vader to take out the old man. All right. Fair enough. Did they actually fight and they lost? No.

No, Mall was scared shitless of Vader. He was in Rebels. He felt his presence and then hauled ass because he knew he would have gotten this. One of the great, many great things about the greatest star was movie, Return of the Jedi is when, Because by that point, we'd only, like, seen, like, one hologram of Palpatine. We're like, who the hell is that guy?

When the, I can't remember his name, the guy who's picking up Vader at the airport. At the beginning of return of the jet, he's like, the emperor's coming here. And you would hear the brick shit out of his asshole. And he said, the emperor's not as forgiving his eye. Oh, it's so good. Yeah. And it's like, well, you're not the most forget. You know what?

Sorry I said anything. I'm going to go back to work. Yeah, I'm good. We will double a futz. All right. All right. Before we move on, do you say there's some other stuff that you're watching? Severance on Apple Plus, man.

Can't get enough of it. So let's pretend like you work at, let's say you work at a top secret location. Let's say that you have anything to do other than sit in this cacophony of free Blu-Rays and just watch and entertain yourself with the dude. And you had a real gig. And let's say this gig was like,

let's say you worked at like a think tank. You know, because like they're kind of mysterious. So this is the work that this company, Lumen, is so top secret that if you see, sign on to be an employee, they do this operation to your brain called severance, where basically, once you're at work, you have no memory of who you are on the outside. Just work. And when you're outside, you've no memory of what you do at work.

And there's this elevator. Adam Scott plays the lead. I've seen the show. Ben Stiller's the director. I've seen the poster. Well, you hear the names like Stiller and Scott. And you're like, okay, well, it's just some sort of yuck, yuck vest. And there are very dark comedic elements to it.

But it's a mind trip, man, because like you're wondering, because basically what's going on This corporation is up to no good. And Adam Scott is really having a tough time figuring it out because he's got this guy that escaped from work somehow. And he's the one on the outside who's telling Adam Scott. He's like, hey, man, you got to do this. But it's so hard when you don't have half your brain half the time. It sounds like an Anne Rand meets Dark City kind of story. Dude, it's just, I don't know how it's going to end up.

But man, am I locked into it right now? Yeah, it sounds pretty interesting. And I think the other one I saw, I thought of the Schmo. immediately when I saw the trailer for this, it's that I figure what the name of this show is with Ann Hathaway and Jared Litt about WeWork. I had the same thought. Is there going to be a post-credit scene

where it's Makugas Dumbled up on the wall over there. The Shmows No Show was from the WeWork, the WeWork offices for Toad Hop. The WeWork one and the Uber one. I need to watch. So we'll talk about those next time on here. Yeah, Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Oh, wow.

And a couple other people, Emma, Emma, uh, uh, Um, uh, Um, uh, um, about how they started Uber. About it was the battle for Uber. Um, I think it was like, it might have either been the battle for Uber initially or when Uber, like when a bunch of drivers went on strike. Okay. Um, about them kind of sorting out their payment situation and their employee structure. So anyway, either way it looks fast. And Kyle Chandler's also in it. Oh, and I'll watch Kyle Chandler and anything.

Great cast. I'll run through a brick wall for that guy. All right. And then the Batman. Like, dislike? Too long? Like very much? Uh, two.

long, but liked very much. You too. Very, very dreary. And the thing about it was, I walked out of that movie, and I felt like I lived in Gotham City. And I felt like I had been rained on for three hours. And I just wanted a shower and a vacation. They set it up very well, the way the, the atmosphere.

And Gotham became, is an absolute character in the, in this. It is more, it was hard for me to imagine Gotham being more of a shit show than it was in the Nolan trilogy. Because it ain't doing well in the Nolan trilogy. I mean, it feels like a, it feels like a normal big city. more or less in the Burton Batman's. And I don't care about the other two. But then with the known one,

it's like, man, somebody needs to claim. If that got them had an underbelly, this thing is like fat bastards underbelly. It's just there's so much grime and lint. Well, did you feel that? I mean, so I know our mutual friend, Scott Mans, didn't agree with this, but I actually agree with it tenfold.

I think this had very much David Fincher feel to it, with Zodiac. And I did, yeah. I think people loved the detective angle here. Yeah, I love that. And I mean, I thought it was the right way to go. Yeah. I feel like after a while it's like, can we just figure out which goddamn bird this is?

Oh, see? And move on. The film noir stuff. So is it a pigeon? No. Is it a bat? No. Is it a...

Oh, Falkit. Like, okay. I loved. I loved that stuff. And so if I was going to score it, I'd probably give it like 4.1. I went lower. Out of five miles? Yeah, I went a little lower.

But I probably, I probably will change my score when watching it again. But I just, the only reason I was, the only reason I was, and lower, there was, there's really not much. I don't like about it except like the length. And I thought the ending was, was more comic booky than the rest of the movie. I felt the length for sure. I felt that ending a little bit.

What are you talking about like the, spoiler? I guess, yeah, I guess the spoiler if you haven't seen the movie. We don't have to. Yeah, go ahead. But just, just that the ending has Batman sort of changing his tune as to how to

approach his job. That was okay. No, I thought that was necessary to set up whatever we're going to be. I did too. I meant so like the, the entire movie is this. as I said, Finscher directed Zodiac story.

And then the ending seemed like whether it was a Nolan Batman ending. Yeah, well, inside of the Madison Square Garden thing, the Gotham Square Garden, which I loved, but it was still, it felt like a traditional comic book movie

and people are what is a comic movie? But it wasn't through the whole point. Yeah, right. And I guess that's what they had to do. But like I said, that's over my first viewing. My second viewing, now that I know it's a three-hour movie,

that was the reason like I would watch certain scenes and I'm like, did that need to be that long? Yeah, I was a tired puppy when I saw it. But I think now that I watch it, now that I'm prepared for the length of it and knowing what's coming, I think that,

because next time I watch it's going to be in HBO Mac. It's going to be on HBO Max in like a month. Yeah. And the reason why I scored it as high as I did is there is not a bad or even just a mediocre performance in the house. I agree. Everybody. I could probably go to four.

Knocks it out of the effing park. And watching Batman and Ketka, Catwoman. I kind of love where we are as a society with Catwoman now where it's like she doesn't have to just be this stock villain. Right. And Michelle Fifeer played Catwoman Great, but that was when we started to turn the page on Catwoman a little bit because it's like, well, I kind of like her. Can we have her do some maybe anti-hero, maybe not good, not bad, just out for herself kind of stuff? We got that in Batman returns to some extent. And now we just continue down this road of her having her own kind of story and not just being like,

Ma, see? I'll go team up with the penguin. Right. Right. Yeah. No, I think that they, Well, that's what I liked about it a lot is that the tone, and I agree with you 100% all of the performances. There's not one, whether it's Colin Farrell disappearing into the penguin. Good luck with that makeup on HBO Max Powell. Paul Dano, Paul Dano being as creepy as he ever has been. Everybody in the show, I mean, the movie is absolutely just lights out. And the directing is fantastic.

And I think that, like I said, I really want to watch it again. My score, I could probably write, even talking about the movie, it could probably go up to a four right now. but then watching it again, I might score it even higher. I don't know. I have to check it out again. The music is some of Michael Giacchino's best. Yeah, I did like the score too.

I'm just trying to put myself like, let's say that I played the riddler in this, right? Let's say that I had Paul Dano's career. I don't want to put this on his shoulders, but like if I had Paul Dano's career at this point, if I go on a date with some lucky lady for the first time, I am doing everything in my power. I am fun. I'm light. Right. I'm talking about like, oh, yeah, I, you know, yeah, I watch you for it.

you know like I'm just like I'm talking about whatever the kids are talking I don't want to come off as this like weirdo creep and you lead with euphoria maybe I wouldn't lead with euphoria I just watched it I had to binge it and it's still on my mind and I can't get out of my head how much more drama they had in high school than I did see I can't I can't watch I can't watch you it's a really well done shit I heard I can't watch it because I have kids so I don't want I don't want to watch it it's it's remember when you couldn't make the screening for prisoners Yes. And I texted you afterwards. Why I didn't make the... Yeah, yeah, your kid had a thing. Yeah, dude. But, because I remember you texted me when I, you, I had a text to my phone for me when I got out. And it was like, how was it?

And I was like, it's great and never see this movie. I did see it, though. I think I said it's great and never let your wife see this movie. Yeah, and she watched it too, though. And she was watching it like, I mean, this is a spoiler for prisoners, for God's sake. And we just spoiled Batman. But we were watching... I'll spoil the top.

The fact that the kid was okay. it, it was. I mean, okay is a strong word. But, but survived. Survived. Yeah. That, that,

that, had the kid, had the kid not survived. Then we got a problem. Again, Paul Dano we're talking about here. And if the kid had, had not survived,

then that's not a movie, then I would have watched with my wife. But the kid survived. So it was like, and it's not, it's definitely not an easy watch. There's no doubt about it. Anyway,

look, you got come back on. You've been away for way too long. Well, no, that's what I do. I just, I just, I purge all this crap now.

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He punched. That's, okay. That happens today. whoever does that, canceled. They're not canceled. No. Are you kidding?

No, they're not kidding. Are you kidding for assault on that person should be, depends on who they assaulted. If it's the same two people today. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine.

I don't know if it's fine. If Burr Reynolds had done it to Billy Barty, we might have an issue. Yeah. You know, but I just, I feel, and again,

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