The Kristian Harloff Show - DUNE 3 SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 2026! Should Star Wars move?

Episode Date: July 1, 2024

Dune 2 has been LOTS of people's favorite of the year so far. It has become a major franchise for Warner Bros. They have announced that a new Denis Vellinueve film is schedule to start shooting in 2025 to debut on December 2026. Many report that this is Dune Messiah. This also lands on the same day as the new Star Wars movie. Should Star Wars move? Should it face Dune head to head? gladiator 2 photos hit the web. Russos are told no for return to the MCU? Inside Out crosses 1Billion and is the first to do it in 2024. This and more on today's live episode with Kristian and John Rocha.

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Welcome back. it's Monday. It's the live show. It's the big thing. It's me. It's John Roka. And we got a lot to talk about, man. So Inside Out is the first movie to cross one billion dollars. It did it. We thought it was going to do it. Well, we thought it was going to do it once it started making the money he was going to make. But it's making a billion dollars already after three weeks insane that it was able to do it. Dune. Now, some people think that there was an announcement that Denise was a, evil knew it's going to do another movie. He's going to start production. It's going to come out in December 2026 for Warner Brothers. And everyone's like, well, it's doing Messiah. Some people

say, no, it's not doing Messiah. But some people think it's due to Messiah. And it's come out the same day as the Star Wars movie. Now, if it is Dunn Messiah, should Star Wars get out of the way? Or should Dunes say maybe we're not going to do this one in general and not do that particular date? uh cobra kai has a new trailer out the final season that's part one of the trailer out so we'll discuss that there's this thing that we covered on capes and cows but it broke on john's show so i figure we talk about the rousseau's basically been told to go scratch their rear ends by uh marvel why what what happened there so that's just one of the many stories that we'll be talking about today and you guys are throwing in your comments you're putting in the super chats already i see it

The way it works on Mondays is that John and I go through all the topics. And then by the time that we're done with the topics, we go through all the super chat. So start throwing them in now. We'll get to all of them. It is myself. It is John Roka. It is the big thing. Let's do it.

Everybody, welcome back. It is myself, Christian Harloff, and this gentleman here. Yeah, well, John Rockwell, what's up, John? What's up, dude? What's going on? Monday morning. Hello. How was the weekend?

It was fun. It was busy. It was a lot of house cleaning. Oh. We have gotten a new car, so we're breaking in our new car, which is a whole technological Marvel. Yep. I haven't had a car in 10 years, a new car in 11 years.

Oh, wow. So it's all like the old man figuring out what all these buttons do type of thing. What did you get? We got a Kia Sportage hybrid. You talked to it. I got my side. I also got a hybrid. What did you get?

What did you get? I got the, shoot, oh my God, I can't. My brain is so fried. It's the, I got to send you a picture of it. Was it the Mercedes-Benz Audi? Definitely not. No, it's a hybrid, but my wife and I'll, when I, when I, kick in the gear and start thinking, I'll send you exactly what it.

But, but yeah, it's good. And it's, you know, it was getting too complicated for, because I had to sell one of my cars, you know for because my wife has her car for the kids and i have got my my i had my old car and i sold it to to brett oh nice and um yeah but i needed it you know i needed something yeah driving at work and stuff has been uh it's been something so yeah but nonetheless we had a we had a good weekend we did some um you know hung out with the kids there's a lot i mean there's the block that goes on to when you're moving into a new place as you very much well know oh yeah and we're just we're dealing a lot of things. There was like, uh, we had, we had a little mouse that showed up in the house and say,

what's up? That went well with my wife. Um, that's nice. Just one, which is good. Then there was, um, then there were a few, we're very kind of nature part right now where we are. And okay, the walks have been wonderful. Well, that's nice. brings in a lot of, uh, I mean, the breeze here is just so nice. But the, yeah, but we had, uh, we, you know, the ants are coming and going, hey, oh, can I, you guys, we just, this hasn't, this hasn't, no, everybody's been here for a little bit. There's food now. Can we come in?

We're like, nope, fuck off. Who are you fuckers? Yeah. And then, and then it was, and now we,

and we had a nice big, uh, wasp nest. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. So we're within, within two weeks.

So the phone calls and texts from the wife have been, um, have been fun to say the least. Remember the old Eddie Murphy bit? Get out. Too bad. We can't stay, baby.

Too bad we can't stay. It's like the money pit. Oh, yeah. I call it's Shelley Long and Tom Hanks. It's like, I tell her, I'm like, it's all right. So we're getting it all out of the way right now. That's a good way to look at it.

But knocking it all out. No, but she loves it here. So that at least works. But like, yeah, but it's been, it's been, it's been. All right. We got some stuff to talk about. What do you want to talk about first? You want to get it right into this Dune thing?

Do whatever you feel like is, you know, you're the boss. Run it, man. I'm going to ride in shotgun. Let's get, let's get to the Dune thing. I want to talk about this Dune thing because it's, yeah. So Dune, now the question is what exactly is going on with this day? I'm very curious to hear John's thoughts on it to see how he reads all of it as we read this particular report. This is Dark Horizons.

Garth Franklin, yesterday came trade reports that Deneve Lnevonneuve directed, is directing an event film for Legendary Warner Brothers and they locked in December 18th, 2026. It's widely thought that the film's going to be Dune Messiah, and now a report from Daniel R.P.K. indicates the production is already locked in August 2025 production start date, and it is indeed the third Dune film. That would seem to confirm it will be Denise's next effort. The filmmaker previously indicated he wanted to do something else before a truckload of money landed in his backyard. Oh, no, that's not what it said. It says something else next before circling back around to Messiah.

That is until yesterday when the trade report suggested he had a change of heart and now wants to complete the trilogy. with work ongoing on the script and a cast being locked down. Questions remain as to how Villeneuve intends to translate the material, the second book being decidedly darker and more downbeat affair that's more talky, weirder, and dismantles any concept of Paul being a hero, but does offer a strong and satisfying conclusion to his arc. Villeneau also has met his high standard, as he told Empire in March. If we go back, it needs to be real, it needs to be relevant.

If I ever do Dunes Messiah, it's because it's going to has to be better than part two. Otherwise, I'm not going to do it. All right. So we hear all of that. I don't know. What do you say, John? I mean, my initial thoughts here are, as I joked and was serious at the same time, they offered him a truckload of money and said, come on, man, come on back.

Let's do it. That's a given. But I also think you're fresh. And one of the pitches, if I'm putting the truckload of money in his backyard, I'm going, this stuff is so fresh in your mind right now. Yeah. It's there. You know, you can take time and do something else, but you're in the world.

Come back to the world quick. Finish it up. Get it over with. And, you know, and let's put together something special. As far as the book being darker and all of that, you know, this is one of those things. As long as this is there that we've already set up between one and two that he's created as much of his own world as he's done with Frank's book and everything else to do. that if you take the blueprint of what's in that book

and get the screenwriters to make something really special, I think you can do something in the way that you adapt a great, in the look what Shogun did. You know, granted, it was off of source material and other things too. This is based off source material that's not as beloved as the first book, but I think you could probably spin it into something, and I think it's smart. We'll get into the date and all that stuff in a second.

But first thoughts. I bring you the Star Wars sequel trilogy. Yeah. One director handling all three of them. That's what a lot of people felt was the issue with the sequel trilogy, that there wasn't a game plan for all three of these movies to be handled by one person, one through line, not people coming in with different points of view. So I think they look at Warner Brothers legendary, look at this and look at this and look,

give us one more. As you said, we'll back up the truck. But I also think he has already been planning to do this third one. And I think he wrote the first two or a, adapted the first two movies here, Dune 1 and 2, in order to lay the groundwork for what he wants to do in Messiah. So to me, this makes all the sense in the world. I think this was always the plan.

And of course, an artist is always going to leave himself and out. But I think this is always the plan. And it makes all the sense in the world. And this is a franchise that he will be attached to for the rest of his career. And if he knocks all three of these out of the park, which I would argue he's already knocked the first two out of the park, then he is leaving a hell of a legacy for himself for when he passes on and future generations

and showing you that this book, these books can be adapted. And I also think with Messiah, I think you're right. He's going to look at Messiah, see what works, what doesn't work, what fits for the tastes now a day's and adjust the story to fit that. Look at the boys. The boys has been so successful adapting what had been a bit of a troublesome comic book in nowadays eyes, you know, from back. then and made it work so i think he can do the same thing with him side because he did incredible

job adapting the dune story into those two movies so why would i doubt him in being able to adapt this thing correctly yeah the adaptation scares me less than and then somebody brought up a point well maybe you let it maybe they should have waited because it the time jump with the characters and i i understand the argument there but the only thing with that is you got to look at it in the business side of it is that people yeah things really fast and you're riding a high with dune right now that if you can get dune in because this one comes out this one march of twenty four supposed to come out in twenty twenty three if you can get essentially two and a half three years you can get another one in the theater and you can go head to head with star wars which we'll discuss in just a moment here

um this is warner brothers being able to put their dukes up and going hey i think we have the actual science fiction um franchise that people really want to see and we're willing to put our dukes up and say let's do it um if it is dune messiah and if it is something that and I just watched it's so funny because I was I had Dan Merle and I had this whole conversation at the live event because I you know I obviously went and saw Dune 2 in the theater right but I was on the plane um coming to New York and one of the movies I wanted to watch was doing three three hour movie it's going to pass the time and I also wanted to see I'm like I know I love this movie and the spectacle that it is

in the theater right am I right in loving this how how am I going to you know, is it going to, is it going to be just as good without all the, without everything that makes it so special? Is it going to be as good on a plain screen? And the answer was yes, a thousand times over yes, right? And I had, and I had gotten to right until like the end of the movie. And then I hadn't seen the final, the end yet. So I watched the end of it last night. It's just so damn good. And it is so good. I just, I'm between that and Game of Thrones and Dark Matter, like, Those are the things right now that I'm responding to. Those types of shows and more movies.

And so when they're saying, and I never had a million years, if you would have told me, because I couldn't stand the Lynch movie, couldn't stand it. Oh, yeah, no, it's terrible. I hate it too. Anyone ever told me, Riley used to tell me all the time, if they ever do Dune, right, you'll love it. I'm like, no way.

And it was only 10 years ago, if they were like, okay, you can only choose, Dune Messiah or the new Star Wars movie, 10 years ago, I'm going, come on, What do you mean to ask me his question? I know the answer day. It's Dune Messiah all day long. It just depends on what Star Wars movie you're putting there. Yeah.

If you're putting the Mandalorian and Grogu movie there, it might be hard for me to decide. Maybe, yeah, right. Maybe you move it. It may be moving. If you put in the mangled movie there, depends on what it is. Maybe I move.

Maybe I walk into the Star Wars theater. I'm not sure because of that time period. Who's cast? Right. But the new, the Ray movie, I just don't love the new trilogy that much. And I love Daisy, really. But I don't think I'm out of the movies that you're comparing,

I'm going to do in Messiah all day long. So I think if you're Star Wars, especially when you're going to need a big win there, and it'll be coming up after the Mandalorian. I think you move if you're Star Wars. Either move closer. Yeah. Or you move altogether somewhere else.

Yeah. I think that's, I think you're 100% right. Depends on what Star Wars movie you drop in there to go. against this one. And it also depends on, how can I say this? It depends on who you're casting. It depends on what the buzz around it is. And it depends on people's feelings around it. And certainly we're seeing now, again, Christian, it feels like Last Jedi all over again with everything splintering and fracturing. And who knows what the state of Star Wars is going to be by the time that movie is six months out or four months out from coming out. And so at that point,

certainly Dune one and two are only going to grow in essence. estimation and the anticipation for this one is going to grow as people have seen trailers and whatever. So to me, that's the thing when you look at it. It's like, well, Star Wars is shaky. Doon is not. So I think Star Wars would have to move unless it's this, unless it's the Mando and Grogu, I would even say even the Mando and Gros movie. I think Dune would overwhelm that. I don't know.

Grogu can get kids in theaters, though. Yeah. Yeah, I know. You're right. Kids in theaters. Grogu is. Yeah, I guess. That's why I wouldn't.

I mean, because Grobu, what's your point? Making the money or making a big footprint for the awards type of future? Well, I think that's both, though. I know awards, I mean, no, it's starting playing for awards. They need the way that they showed it to Iger and everybody else, too, is that look who we did opening weekend. We just, we knocked the socks off of Dune.

We beat Dune opening weekend like we knew we were because Grog just selling toys and selling everything that he's going to do. And he's, you know, Grogo. Grosgu was when everyone said Baby Yoda, Baby Yoda, you saw news reports of people who didn't know what Star Wars was. It was everywhere. So like if you, like, that's what if that's my other choice of what I would do

if I was, if I were running Lucasfilm and I go, okay, hey, we haven't said which movies go and where yet. Let's move it. Let's put, let's change some stuff up here. Let's instead, let's do May of 2026. Let's do the Ray movie. Yeah. It's very risky.

And we can go over that in a second. But then let's do the Grogu and let's see if Dune wants to stick around and fight Grogu. Let's see if he wants to do that. But the problem is with that, is that if you put the Ray movie out and it's not good and you get the same kind of divisive kind of back and forth that you're getting with the Ackleite right now, that could hurt your December release when it comes out also. Oh, 100%.

Yeah. 100%. Because, yeah, I think because I saw, I mean, we haven't really talked about it with Acolyte. Yeah. but like it's oh i've never gotten as much crap about star wars as i've gotten on this last episode because people i mean for me star war show you mean from yeah from when i was i did reaction to it everything to it and it's like i'm not i'm not gonna just you get you and i've just have discussed this you get every single point of view if you love it you're a chill

if you hate it you're a hater people like oh you're just hating it because it's cool i hate now i'm like no i just don't like the show Is that okay? But I love that you do. It's great. But people just don't want you to either love something they love or hate something they love or love something they hate. It just can't. It's no middle ground. Oh, they can't deal with it. And like, so we're just watching, watching the show itself. And I, you know, as I said, when I watched it originally and I said this on the show the other day, when I watched originally, when you have that first kind of initial thought, I thought I was like, this is just, I thought it was the worst of the five. But then we watched it and I have said no. I think that everything is kind of leading up to it. It's the best of the five. It is.

It is when you really look at it. But there's just so much that I'm like, there's so many ridiculous things going on in this show. That is so many questions and so many like. There are still problems with the show. And I got and like, you know, I know I didn't, we didn't get to the extent of your. argument on it, but I do have an issue with the fact that, like, the way that the haircut

thing came about was ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And then the idea that this guy said, no, he can't admit, unless it's a dupe. That's what I think. If it's what I think, if it's a tube and he knows that, that is her, okay, she has a witch tattoo on her face. It's right. Literally, it's on her face. It's on her forehead. How do you not know that it's her? It's right there, Jerry. I mean, come on. What is he doing? Is he a Jedi? I mean, what is, is, how much wine is in green drinking so but you can't have this kind of you can't have this if you're going to release the movie uh is your first one so i don't know what they're going to do yeah yeah yeah i yeah exactly yeah you wonder in the long run what what what i mean right it's so

unstable right now right and you're just like well where what's going to stabilize it how are you going to bring people back to the media and because i was like initially defending acolyte because the numbers were there. Like, okay, the hate isn't affecting it. But the last two weeks, the numbers have gone down. The view minutes have gone down. And I know it's half an hour each episode, but that there's more going on behind those numbers.

And that is worrisome. And we'll see if episode five now, because of all the hype and a lot of people who were initially down on the show liked this episode, maybe not everything in the episode, but they liked the episode. Maybe that will spur interest, back into the numbers for the acclimate.

So we'll see. But we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, it's fit to bed in the next two episodes, Christian, it'll be worse.

It'll be worse. I know. That's that it's got to deliver more so. And, you know, and yeah, we'll see what happens. But I actually want to stick with Star Wars for a second,

because speaking of Star Wars and speaking of like fans and things that like, Joel Edgerton, who was famously played Uncle Owen. Yeah. where is he he's here he is uh so he was he was talking for i think it was maybe i don't know it was a dark matter or what it might have been but he had an interview and he said something interesting about how what lucas film should potentially be doing with with the fans and i and i think i don't even know what people have said yet about this comment but i can only imagine um

but listen to this so following the season finale of dark matter which i highly recommend Have you, you start watching this yet? No yet, not yet. Give me time. Give me time. It is, it's, it was great. I love it. I'm finishing up the bear. I got to finish up the bear. I'm on episode one of the bear of season three. The show's male lead star, Joel Edgerton has spoken with the playlist about his life and career.

And one of the topics of the conversation was his time in Star Wars. Edgerton played the younger version of Uncle Owen in a brief cameo in the prequel trilogy and reprised it this time in the Obi-Wan Kenobi series. Speaking about Star Wars fandom, all the joy and baggage that comes with it, Edgerton says that Lucasfilm shouldn't ignore fan voices in the creative process. He says,

there are Star Wars fans who could write a better Star Wars TV show than you can imagine because they've studied it like the Bible and they've imagined all the threads and they know the histories of all the characters. I think it's worth listening to the fans because someone out there is going to go, what if this and you're going to go, oh, I want to watch that. Podcast host

Mike DeAngelo, which suggested cheekily that Uncle Owen should get his own spin-off in which he becomes a hitman. Edgerton said, yeah, what if Uncle Owen in this whole anti-war kind of attitude? Maybe he was saying that because he just didn't want to fill Luke's head with ideas, and then you actually would realize he's basically some tattooing Navy sale who got decided. I don't want quasi-son to go to war. I'm constantly impressed by TV writers who keep certain shows live and present and vital for seasons, then they shift the paradigm. And you're like, how do these

people do this? So, I mean, I think it's just that topic alone there of listening to I think there's some truth to it and also you got to also be careful with it. It's like you can't just listen to every single thing every fan says because first of all, your head would explode. Second of all, you don't want to cater to people and all that. But I do think there's something to it where I mentioned that for Jamie Campbell Bauer, who I had on for Stranger. From Stranger Things.

Can I ask him about fan theories and all those things? And he said he pays attention to him. It looks like some things are really interesting. Some things are so far-fetched. But I think that the fans are the reason why they get so excited about these things and talk about these things. And when you look at some of the people, whether it's Dave Filoni or whoever it is, where do you think they were fans of these things? And they had ideas on what, oh, what I would do if I was in Star Wars, they just happened to be in that business. There are some people, and this is the conversation I think you and I have had many times over.

You know that there's somebody out there right now who is an accountant or is a fireman or fireman or whatever. And could have been, if they pursued it, the best baseball player, basketball player, fighter, whatever. You don't know. Maybe they just never explored it. Maybe they never picked up whatever it was. And they are the best of all time. They're the Michael Jordan. And they've never even touched their particular sport.

The same can be said about somebody who is a creative genius, who is doing something else, who maybe is a Star Wars fan, had an idea and said, oh, you know what this? And put a comment in there one day and said, I think that it. if you did this, this, this, and this. And that person could have been a brilliant creative executive, just never went down that path, right? So I do think that they're out there. It's just hard to, it's, and I do think a lot of times, though,

in my opinion, I think that Kathleen Kennedy does not pay attention to it. I don't think she does. To the plans? No, I don't think. Yeah. And I think that she kind of almost kind of goes up to them at times. It's my personal opinion. And I think that that's not the way to do it.

As you oppose, you look at like Kevin Feigey, and Kevin Feikey will not listen to everything fans say, but he's certain goes, hmm, interesting. All right, let's try that. I don't know. And even mentioned that there were a couple times that went in the wrong path. They would never do that Lucasfilm.

They would never say, oh, we were wrong. And there are a couple things that we were maybe going about this the wrong way. Never. They'll never do it. But I do think that there's some merit into it, but I also think you got to be careful. What do you think? Yeah, like you said, you got to be careful because in a way,

If you start to, I'm going to say, if you start to open the door to that, you start to empower fans even more. And there's nothing wrong with fans feeling an interactive connection with a franchise. I think that's hugely important, obviously. It's a reason these things become successful. The danger becomes when you see the ownership

that some fans have taken lately, some fans with massive platforms on YouTube, have taken as in, I'm protecting the brand. I'm protecting the franchise. There's a self-importance to that that is dangerous when you start to say, you know what, fans should write the stuff.

Fans do. There's plenty of great fan films on YouTube. I went down a wormhole, I think last Saturday, and saw a bunch of them, thanks to Kevin Smets' suggestion on some of these fan films. They're incredible.

They're incredible. So, like, yes, I think there are fans who would absolutely enjoy writing stuff. And if you can, you know, have a process, that'd be a great reality show, reality TV competition is like a bunch of 10 Star Wars fans and then there's an executive we used to be in Star Wars or whatever and they vet and the winner gets to be in the writing room for the new series. Yeah, we'd never do it.

But it would be fun to see that and it's a way of catering to the fans and everything like that. But it becomes dangerous when you start to be like, oh, no, yeah. And no can say that because he's not in charge of the franchise? Right. And can the ego and put the can the egos go aside, right? because I think there's little things, like, because what I don't, when people will just say, everything is horrible about act like everything. I said, I don't think everything is horrible.

I think that in the same way that there is horrible execution in Obi-1, horrible execution in Asoka, this horrible executionist. I said this on the show the other day, and as I gave like a little bit of fake pitch of what I would have made the show, people kind of responded to it, right? In the same way that this is kind of relevant of what we're talking about is that I don't understand right now why you need the twins. in this in this show i just don't understand why you need they're the least important part of the least interesting part of the show you could have made the pitch that everyone got excited about besides the fact that it was going back in time and that you were going to be dealing with like the Sith and all

that stuff besides the obvious stuff of that it was that this detective story murder mystery right why wasn't the murder mystery you know uh Saul and daphne kean's character the two of them they that he's her master and they're doing it's like this quigon obiwan type of thing there's a murder from a Jedi of a Jedi and they have to figure out true detective style each and every week what the hell is happening and what is happening throughout it and you can still bring in Mani Kinta's character and all that because Saul's history and everything that's going on there but and and utilize Daphne Keen more yeah do more with her because she was very interesting. You could still have the Yord

element and all that and there's too many characters and they they distinct with the witches and the twins. It's unnecessary. You're 100% right because Yord could have been who the, how can I say this? Let's say soul is a bit of a detective who like a Jedi who like breaks the rules or crosses the lines.

I don't mean like in a gruff way. I mean like he'll bend the rules because he wants to find. So Jackie comes in. Jackie's his Padawan. So they're on the case. But the council sends Yord with them because Yord is in essence the council's engineers over them. So there's a battle between what Yord tells them they should be doing and what they're doing. And eventually they realize that Yord's way is a little bit right and Yord realizes their way is a little bit right while they're solving this case. And it's interesting around causing damage. And it's a mystery. You don't know because it's a murder mystery. Isn't it? We know in the first

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A billion dollars inside out. Yeah. Just made a billion dollars. I mean, I knew we were going to, we knew we'd make money. But that was not the one that we were talking about. When we kept mentioning what will make a billion, we said, Despicable Me and I said Deadpool.

Yeah. So the numbers for this weekend, Inside Out 2 at 57.4, Quiet Place Day 1 at 53. Yeah. Horizon American Saga chapter 1 at 11. We'll discuss that. Bad Boys, Ride or Die at 10. And then I don't know what this move.

What's this? Calke, 2898. 8. What is that movie? I don't know. It might be an Asian film. I think it's an Indian film. Is it?

Yeah, I know, but I wasn't. Okay. So, yeah. Night out too now, dude, has now crossed one point. It's just over the one billion mark. It has made 469 domestic. It has made 545 internationally.

I mean, holy moly. Yeah. This is big news. Yeah. What do you think? And this is great. This signals that, you know, this is a film that evokes the best of Pixar's past. And so, as we talked about, and so I'm not surprised that people are gravitating to this movie

still in a third a weekend and crossed a billion dollars. This basically told Despicable Me for, what do you got? Because they came out and they just, right out of the gate, there was clearly a hole in people's moviegoing desires that weren't being met. and inside A2 shows up and now people have gone in droves to see it over and over and over. You don't get to a billion in three weeks without people going back to see this film

over and over and over again, families and what have you. So it's just, I think it's speaking our language as we're more mentally, more aware of mental health and can speak about it a little more openly in the time's past. I think it really grabs that. And the story, I think, is slightly stronger

than the story in the first movie. The fact that Joy has even more competition throughout. I think really is fun to explore in this film as well. So no surprise, man. And I'm glad. And this means Pixar can recapture that formula when they want to recapture that formula. And hopefully this is an indication of where they're going next with some of their future films. I hope so. I mean, because it looks like, I mean, the writing on this was really good. My little one, I was very curious, because I told you, I took my oldest to see it. And the reason why she responded to it so much is because she was just around Riley's age,

or maybe a little younger than Riley when she saw the first one, right? So she's essentially grown up with Riley. Now Riley is exactly like her age and can relate to all of it. So I knew that it was going to hit for my 12-year-old. The question was, and it hit for me watching it as someone who has a 12-year-old and watching all these things. And it just, that's the best type of when these movies are aimed at both adults and kids in a place for everyone. Yeah.

That is when you're going to have the most success, right? So when, and it does, because it just played wonderfully for me. So, but I was curious, how is this going to play to my six and a half year old? Is it going to go over her head? Mm. You know, and it didn't. She loved it. She absolutely.

And my wife went and took them to see it too. My wife loved it. And so this is, there's, it really plays to everyone. Yeah. Every. And people keep going back. The fact that it made the insane amount of money it made week one. And then week two, it only dropped a little bit and made $100 million on its second weekend.

And then didn't even drop 50% from that. And did 57, another 57 million. This movie is a juggerna. It's, it is huge. And I think that it is a big surprise. It's not a surprise that it did well. It's a surprise that is doing as well. As quickly, too.

Quickly. Like three weeks. That's a billion dollars in three weeks. That is a major accomplishment. And if you're Pixar, you're jumping off the roof. Joy is the only person in Pixar's head right now. Nobody else.

There's no anger. There's nobody. There's nothing else. Just Joyce said, take a break. I'm here. And it makes sense. And now, if you look at the other movies, though, they didn't have the same type.

Like, I'm curious about Quiet Place day one, right? because did you see the movie i haven't seen i'm seeing it later today all right so i saw i want i want to see what the budget is on it because it doesn't seem i did see the movie or 60 50 or 60 is that what the budget is right around 50 or 60 um day one that that would be a wonderful budget 67 million so good for them yeah it's made 100 million already worldwide yeah okay so good for them smart because you i went and saw this movie and what i said about the film itself was that there's no surprise to this movie the way that one and two had surprises because you're like, well, what are these things? Right.

What's the rules? You know the rules. You know what they are. You know how to beat them. You know all that array. So it's really not about them. It's about Lapina and Yungo and it's about Joseph Quinn. It's about the two of them.

It's about their relationship. And, and, well, you know, and like how they're dealing with it. And it's, it was a small movie and a, it was a small movie. big movie's body. And, and, and not really even that. I mean, there was some, the, I, I, I was so pleasantly surprised with how I said, I didn't know the budget yet, but I felt like it was a $67 million budget. Yeah.

Good, because then you, that is the structure I've been screaming for the, for the, to the hills saying, you get a big star, you know, you get a great, a really great actor like Lepeda Niyungo, which price point is probably not through the roof, but good enough. As far as price point goes, as far as it's probably going to cost you a little bit to have her in the movie. But then Joseph Quinn right now is right on the cusp. He's not going to be cheap in like a couple of years from now, especially after the Marvel movies.

You can get them now and you do this. This is the way you do it. This is really smart and this is a win for them. Yeah, 100%. And you know, way back in a few years ago when I was. when Quiet Place first came out and I was on the shows and I would say this is a franchise that can work

in numerous arenas, right? Because if this happened all over the world, you can have a Russian quiet place, a French quiet place, a German quiet place, a Spanish quiet place. And then they did the sequel, which I thought was fantastic and it came out right in the middle of COVID. I thought it was a fantastic film.

And now this film comes out and is doing so well. It's a prequel series. and I would argue Lepita's probably a little less known than Emily Blunt. And so the fact that people still wanted to come and see the film speaks volumes or the power of the franchise. And Lepita's obviously a fantastic actress. I think she won the Oscar for 12 years of slave. So an Oscar winning actress, or at least an Oscar-nominated actress. And so you bring that kind of strength and that kind of talent to lead a film like this.

It's so smart, throwing it up and comer, as you said, and Joseph Quinn. you've got to balance things out she's very much the anchor of the movie from what i understand and then you go forward and you see and you and you get it you get the director of pig who sarnaski's a fantastic director now and so it all works and you keep the budget low and people will come and flock to it if you make a good movie really hope that the more people take this point because you said it it's like you don't have to because the franchise alone the will sell the tickets yes But if you put a phenomenal actress in there and then put it with people like, again, with a Joseph Quinn, and that's all you need. You get a couple people hearing, they go, I know that person.

I know that person. But it's, it's, and Jiamen Hansu, obviously, from the other movies. But it really leans on these two. Yep. And I enjoyed it. And I, you know, it's funny. I went with my friend who I've mentioned on this show a million times over, my friend John Pinto, who is the guy who I always use as the regular movie view. him just like a normal person who doesn't pay attention he's not in our bubble yeah and I'm like and I always say you know so I was like you're crazy this person

everyone knows who that is I'm like John Pinto would know who that is and he's a fan of this stuff John Pinto had never seen a quiet place movie ever wow going into this and so I said I'm not going to tell you these don't tell me anything so we were watching he's like now I want to watch the whole franchise right he wants to see it and he had a good and he had a good time with it and that was it so um now Continuing on, though, through it. Yeah. Did you wind up seeing the horizon? I did not. Not yet. That shocks me. Tuesday.

I'll be going through. I told you had a busy weekend. We were out and the breaking in the car, finalizing the deal. It was a very busy weekend. But yeah, I will definitely go Tuesday. Or I might go quiet place tomorrow and go see Horizon today. We'll see. Either way, I'm seeing one of the two today and one of the two tomorrow.

I am so... Did you go? I saw. Okay. Yeah. I had a genius on the show. And so it was interviewing for he's fantastic in the film, whether I was going to interview him or not. He's fantastic.

And the movie, the way that I feel about the film, like, first of all, you and I, even before I even saw this, we had had the same concerns about it. Yeah. Westerns are hard to get people in the movie theater for part one. Yes. A three hour part one is. is going to be very hard to get people in the movie theater to see. And the reviews have been mixed on the movie.

I'm in the positive side of the movie, because the way that I watched the movie, as clearly it's a part one. And the other way that I watched this movie is that this movie plays like a mini series on streaming television. That's not an insult. It's just it doesn't play the way that traditional, like, you know, you would think,

if you're going to guess, you're going to go horizon this is about kevin costner as this outlaw cop or whatever he is and we follow his journey throughout the whole thing it's not it's an ensemble that you could be spending 15 minutes with one character and then five with another one and then flip to another one for another 20 minutes there's a scene that happens in the beginning sienna miller is phenomenal in this movie by the way right oh good i love sienna she's really come back strong over the last years yeah great in this movie um there's a lot of really good performances in this film but she really stands out. Sam Worthington is really good in this movie, but there's like, there's a particular

scene that happens and it's brutal and it happens and it feels it's got to be eight to ten minutes this whole scene. And it's going on and you're like, well, and it's not like, oh, wrap it up already. It's like, wow, this is still going on. This is, I feel like I'm in it. I really enjoyed it. I was invested, but I could see people either being bored or everything to. And if you don't look at it as a part one. And the idea of trying to make this a mega hit when you've got. all these other movies out there right now, I don't know. I mean, I think one of those just put up the money to distribute it.

I don't think they, I think. No, no, it's all Costner's money. It's all Costner's money. Warner's just distributing it. So there's no real loss for them. No. They're pushing out there. So they stay in business with him. Yeah. The second one's coming out in August. August. Yes, but I will tell you that I will be there. As soon as it comes out, I want to see how it wraps up. I was I was invested in it but if he wraps up there's a this is a four part story is it really yes

costner said it in numerous interviews a four part story he got he shot the first two back to back yeah and he's hoping that these somehow become successful so that he can put his own money to make three and four I don't know me I think he's gonna go straight to streaming I think so that's mine I think so too I think what he could do if you wanted to really be I almost asked this question to jamie but I was like now I'm not going to do it because Jamie says he wants to he wants he really like being in the western world and I was going to ask him like what would you do if if Ty Sheridan

Taylor Sheridan yeah Taylor Sheridan so what if Taylor Sheridan came knocking on your door and wanted you to be in one what would you do where did you loyalty go I almost asked them but I was like I should have asked them but I did and what I think Costner should do is go after and go you know be a be a

competitor 100% yeah I've been thinking this for months that all this, all this hand ringing over, oh, why is he leaving Yellowstone? Costa is as big as Taylor Sheridan. Okay, Costa's been around since the 80s, people. And he's been in Westerns since the 80s, Sovarado, Wyatt Earp, all these Westerns he's been a part of. And he's Americana with the baseball movies.

So to me, it makes all the sense of the world. He's a fantastic director. It's a great executive producer. Why doesn't he get in? And he likes being in control. If you watch any Costa interview, man, he's very. much up his own ass, but in a way that's like endearing. So to me, I'm like, go. You don't need to be under Tyler Sheridan's thumb. And he feels clearly slighted by the studio and Taylor Sheridan,

because he's like, they don't appreciate what I did for them. Like my name sold this show and got people to take a chance on the show. Whether he's right or wrong, there's no way to prove it. So, but for him, that's how he sees it. So go and do your own thing. There's clearly an appetite for it. So go and start your own thing and see what you can do. there's a lot of really well-directed films from him and well-produced films from him. So I think he'd be fantastic being in charge of an empire like this. Why not? Yeah, I know. Why not indeed? So I don't know, man. It's interesting to me to see if this movie, though, is going to,

I don't know, if it's going to be enough for Costner to go, okay, I made enough that I'm going to make a third and fourth or just put it on streaming. Well, we'll see. Yeah, but the box office alone, guys, that was, uh, it's, it's revitalized and inside out too is definitely one of those. You got despicable me coming out this weekend. I missed the screening last week. So bummed about that. I really wanted to see that movie, but I'll see it this weekend with my little one.

Um, all right. Let's, let's move on because we do have this trailer for Cobra Kai that just so let's, let's bring that up. And I can't find the damn thing. I thought I had a screenshot of it. I had a screenshot of it somewhere, somewhere, John. Now I can't find the damn. Either way, we get a black frame.

We get a black frame in me in the bottom corner there. But I think that somewhere I have this thing or deleted it. That's what happened. That's exactly deleted it. Anyway, the freaking trailer for Kobe. Talk amongst yourselves. Yeah, talk amongst yourselves. But the trailer came out for Kobr Kai, the new season, part one.

So I heard you editing your reaction before. How dare you? How dare you, listening on my business? You play it as loud as you do. What do you expect? And you seem to have fun with it as you're watching it. It's exactly lined up to what they have each season. And even when I had the creators on every single time I have it on.

Each season has gone significantly a little more that shit. Yeah, I get crazy. Every single time. Because if you watch the first season, it's a little, the first season is the only one that's based a little bit more in reality. Right. Where it feels, everything feels kind of real. There's actually ramifications.

And it doesn't feel. It's like it gets more comic book slash wrestling slash superhero as it goes on and on and on. And like once you realize, and I think it's the end of season one or or even season two when there's like these big brawls that are happening in the school and all this. It's like, okay, this is just, it's a different type of, it's a multiverse type of place where anything goes. There's kids doing, kids learn karate so fast. They're doing flips off trees and all this. And like once you get there and you understand what the show is, this trailer is exactly. The finale of all of the bad shit craziness that has led up.

And you're like you said, I mean, Hawks got a freaking July 4th Mohawk going on. It is, you want to see how this ends. And hopefully it ends in the pure spectacle, we hope. It has to be Hillary Swank. I don't care what anybody, I don't care if she denies it until she's blue in the face. I feel like the end of the trailer is teasing Hillary Swank,

the idea that Miyagi has these. secrets. And if you remember, was it the next karate kid, the Hillary Swank film, hits connect. I think her dad or her uncle was like served in the war with Miyagi, which is why he trained her and she was like this angry hothead. We brought back everybody like everybody's come back. Even the girl from Karate Kid Part 3 came back. Everybody's come back. Hillary has to come back. She's been in Netflix film. So she clearly has a good connection with Netflix. And but look, you're right. Everything got settled at the end of season five. Everybody's on board.

John Crease now is the main villain again, like he was in the first movie. So it's all full circle. According to the trailer, he's going to Japan, you know, and somehow he's the head of a dojo in Japan. It's come along with a play opera.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And well, you know, and it's touching up on the Hillary Swang thing, I hope you're right.

Yeah. But I can tell you that I don't think you are. Okay. Why? Well, when they were filmed, remember, she just had a baby recently.

Yes. And when they were filming it, I believe she was either still pregnant or just had her kid. I can't remember. So that's part one. Part two is she says it many times over that she's been asked about COBRA Kai more than any other question she gets. And it makes sense that Netflix would want to say, hey, look, talk to the guys. Now, do I think that they have tried to get her back? Yes.

Yeah. I bet you they've tried a. a million times over because as much as many times as she gets asked just imagine how many times the guys get asked that question yeah that's true um i think that if you can get her at the because this is part one part two and part three i think of this of this yeah part one is what they released the trailer for today right there's three parts of this so what you would try to do i think if you are the guys to say all right we got some reshoots in our pockets our goal is that by the time we get to part three, we can get one of those reshoots, even if it's a five-minute scene.

Let's, let's have it. And at that point, Hillary's Swang, ready to go, can film, can do whatever she needs to do. So maybe the reshoots is a possibility, but I don't think she's going to be in this part, and I don't think that it has been shot yet. Do you think that what's in that case could also be related to that movie that's coming out? Could it be that Jackie Chan is like his stepson or something like that? I think that's more related to that. But I don't think that it's a stepson because I think that and

or his brother, long lost brother. I don't know. I don't think Jackie Chan is Japanese in the. No, no, but I'm saying, but yeah, but he could have had, you know, relations with the Chinese woman and then it's Jackie. Maybe, maybe. I mean, maybe. Who knows? It could be related one way or another, but there is, that goes back to maybe why they push things back and they had some conversations because originally when all that was going down the when they announced the karate kid movie the guys didn't even know anything about it no because they were tweeting out oh we don't know what

the hell this thing is right right right initially they had no clue and then ralph macho was was was was approached about it and then they're like because this was made by sony this decision right because oh oh carotid kid's hot let's make us let's make a cry kid movie right and it's like you have the right sure but how do you not acknowledge the the the guys who really revitalize that entire franchise in both, you know, with Hayden and and Josh and John. So anyway, the fact I think that what they said is, all right, let's talk, to have a conversation, let's do this, because that movie now comes out in, I think it will coordinate with it. And I think they probably had them write some stuff into it.

Be stupid for them not to do that. Yeah. If you're Sony, not, no, it's COBRA Chi, it doesn't really matter. But if you, if you're, if you're Sony, promote your, promote your movie. It's Sony television. If you're making a multiverse, you've got to, like what happened with Marvel, you've got to bring the other directors in to make sure the energy fits with the characters that you've been directing.

So it makes all the sense in the world to bring them in to kind of at least, you know, counsel or advise on it. Okay. So I think the last thing, as we see, by the way, that we have more super chats that are coming in and throw them in there because this is going to be our last story and then we're going to get to all the super chats and we have this picture john that i got to bring this picture up and check this out this is from the new oh yeah you see this picture paul moscow yeah paul moscow for gladiator part two they just released this picture and it is an anticipated movie i

would say say the least apparently they showed a lot of stuff at cinema con that people loved Yes, Jeff said it was incredible. That's what everyone said. Paramount Pictures has premiered the first photos now from Ridley Scott's Mega Budget Epic sequel to Gladiator as a part of a feature piece over at Vanity Fear. They come ahead of the film's trailer release on Tuesday, July 9th. Shots include Paul Muscal and Pedro Pescal, who appear to come to blows in the film in the arena. Askell stars as a grown-up version of the child Lucius son of...

I didn't know that. Did you know that? That he was a child... I didn't really did. They had gone back in front. fourth because they're trying to say that either he might be a biological child or he might be like taking on the mantle out of the child i don't know okay they said he stars as a grown-up version of the child lucius son of lucilia who is connie nielsen who can also be seen here from the first film pascal plays a general who has uh who has drowned conflicted with whom he serves there's also the first shot of denzel grudge holding former gladiator who pulls the strings

behind the scenes for his own purposes dannell's playing a bad guy guy yeah yes that's great also in the shots are a blonde joseph queen there's joseph queen again who plays the bloodthirsty tyrant emperor getta and fred hessinger as his meika brother getta i haven't seen any of this the pair joins the pair jointly ruled rome in early third century a d um also you have jiman hansu matt lucas and much oh there's a 300 million dollar budget though yeah that's tough that's funny you had a lot of money but there's there's a few different there's a lot of just uh photos of these photos are a fucking incredible man really really good but yes i well there you go you just

you just answered my question you you're you're digging these photos so far i was out i mean i was out on this idea i thought this was a dumb idea i'm like he died what are you talking about a sequel but it's a spiritual sequel in that the memory of maximus is what motivates lucius in this battle and And look, in real life, the emperor character that Joaquin Phoenix played, lived a very long life and was very helpful to Rome. But they had to make him a bad guy for the movie. It works. So we're dealing with like just fantastical ideas of history now in this sequel. So let's have some fun.

I did not think he'd be able to recapture the energy of that one. Because remember, it's 24 years. Wow. Gladiator. 24 years. That's how old you are, kids. 24 years. So the but these images look incredible and we know this about Ridley when Ridley's on

he's all right when he's off he is way off and so this looks like he's on man this looks great what a great collection of talent I'm hoping and I mean just hearing I haven't seen any that that that those few images are the only thing that I saw so far I knew nothing about the story I didn't know Denzel was playing a bad guy I'm in didn't know Joseph Quinn was in in it I'm in I didn't know that you know as the as the emperor you know, himself and watching all, and I didn't know that the kid was playing the version

and that's how you connected to the original. I'm in, I'm in. I wanted to see it and was curious about it, but I like what I'm hearing so far. And now we see the trailer next week. Yeah. I'm excited for this movie. I was already, it was in my anticipated when I did my list earlier this year,

but it's starting to really kind of push up there. Yeah, they get, they report, the reports are there are scenes where they're fighting in the arena, in the water with sharks. And that actually happened in world, like legitimate historical evidence of them shipping in sharks and water into these arenas

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All right. So, John, as we do every Monday, man, we got a lot of questions that are coming in. Let's do it. We go through all of the questions, and you guys can put them in. It's they start even before we even went on the air, and they can go all the way until the last question. So start throwing them in now, if you haven't done it already. But we start with this one. Mufasa, again, when I say, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, you say, ooi, o'y, go ahead, John.

Yeah, Ozzy. Oi, oh, let's go. Did you get my response on Twitter? I did. Of course, I responded to it with an LOL. Nice. Good. And then you get it back.

another Ozzy, Ozzie, Ozzie. So there you go. There you go. Shout out to the United States. We're going to get their butts kick tonight against Uruguay, possibly. Perfect. Miguel Zion, what do you think happened to that Cotor script written by Leda Caligitus? What are the chances of it being redeveloped when Kathleen Kennedy leaves Lucasfilm? I did hear about that. I remember back in the day, we talked about it on Jedi Council.

And what I think is what always happens in these a lot of time, not with just Lucasfilm, but I can't even tell you how many different scripts came in when I was working at Silver that were in development, that were excited. If they had the internet now, all this stuff that we had like a Sergeant Rock thing that was there. We had all these different. We had so many different things that were in development that just never happened. And there's no difference.

It just was probably in development and it just kind of fell apart. Yeah. And I also think Dave Filoni doesn't care about that's over. But Leslie Ellen came out and said she'd love to direct a Cotor film. So who knows where it all goes. It probably all just goes in a vault and they go, when we're ready to bring it out, we'll bring it out and have a conversation about it. I don't think that would go over too well right now, though.

No, well, yeah. Mike Joyce, Lepeda went through a lot for a slice of pizza and quiet place. No spoilers, Mike. Nah, it's not a spoiler. Okay. What's the most you've done for food you've craved? Well, I guess my wife literally called me a pizza addict the other day. She really did.

She was just like, this is an addiction now. She's like, you have to stop. You have to stop. But I'll tell you, dude, we went yesterday. Yeah. My wife actually found this as we were driving. She was driving me to work and she saw this deal. You only find this kind of stuff in New York and this is Italian place.

And it's like a Sunday dinner deal that they give for it. It says you could feed six people on this thing, right? Yeah. You could feed 40 people on this thing. And it's all quality stuff. We got bolognese chicken. the mushrooms. Oh, yeah, you got you. Oh, the chicken marsala. Thank you.

Chicken marsala. We had that we had a full Caesar salad thing. We had, it was the kids and the bread that they gave you. It was like there was enough bread for like sandwiches for six weeks and it was the best deal. And so I tell you what, Mike, I'd probably go through a lot to have that dinner again or make sure they keep that deal. But I don't know what I went through. I'm probably, probably really long walks to get pizza that probably. Yeah. I drove up to L.A. Two years ago for Magianos.

That's, that's how. Machianos, the, there's no, yeah, there's no Magianos here in, in San Diego. There is a Magianos, but it's like, it's like, you order it. It's like a restaurant. You order it and you got to go get it at this restaurant. Then you bring it home and heat it up. That's basically, but it's not a Magiananos restaurant. It's really weird.

So I wanted the atmosphere. So I drove up to two and a half hours to have some of them. Well, Mike follows up. Have I had Patsy's pizza? You wouldn't understand that one, Roker just yet, but you will. No, I haven't. Okay. So here is the next one.

Miguel, regarding Thor five, would you rather have George Miller or Kenneth Brana helmet? I think it would be poetic if Brana comes back to close what he started, making more Marvel Shakespearean with Norse gods. I had to tell you, I think that I would agree with you. as much as cool as it would be to see a George Miller Thor movie. Yeah.

Pretty great. And I wouldn't complain if that's what we wound up getting. I do think there's something poetic about, about Brana coming back and saying, yeah, this is the end? Is he even rumored? The fans are rumoring him. There's been no rumor with Brana coming back. The fans are interested in wanting to bring him back.

I don't know. I mean, Bronas films at times, when they're not Shakespearean, I feel like his films can be a bit distant. I think that first fourth Thor film was a little distant. So I'd be nervous about bringing him back, especially because you're trying to get people back into the, into the franchise. And although George Miller took a hit on Furiosa,

I think he's the more exciting choice at this point for a new Thor film. But like you said, and the writer said the poetic, it could be possible. Could be. I feel like this was written by you under the guise of a different... How dare you? I would never. My mouse just died? That's perfect. That's great. you gotta be kidding i can't scroll to the thing oh you just got to read it now

well i will read it and i'll try to bring it back up hey christ in while i enjoyed episode five of acolyte mainly for the fights and doth manny but this show feels like it had 60 minute scripts that were cut down to fulfill Disney plus 30 minute runtime now john you can speak on this while i try to return it out yeah well the last two have been 30 minutes for sure but the other ones have not been so you can't say that they cut them all down to 30 because clearly they didn't. And we don't know what the runtimes are, at least that I haven't seen for the next three ones.

So who knows what their runtime is there? But I don't think you're wrong about things being cut down. I'm very clear on this. I think certain people got involved with Leslie's script and Leslie's point of view and they cut some stuff out, trim some stuff down, took some stuff out, put some other stuff in. And so that's what we're getting now.

So it feels a bit disjointed. I mean, look, the 30-minute runtime, is something that I think is a major problem with all of the Star Wars shows. They're not filling them in. No, it's not. Especially when you're doing, like, and the argument that I kept getting from people that it makes no sense. Well, the bear, the bear's 30 minutes,

and the bear isn't a big action show, and you're not going to have five to seven minutes of a show. And in the case of this last episode, 20 minutes of a show, be pure action, and not enough. story in there. So if you're going to do a pure action thing like that, I mean, look at, people say, don't ever, don't compare it to House of the Dragon. I mean, you can compare it to House of the Dragon last night. Did you watch House of the Dragon last night? I did. Yeah. Great sense. So when you have like, there's no action in that episode, but it was so

dramatic. Compelling. It was so compelling. And where you do have even like a couple of battle scenes where it's some stuff. And by the time you do get to the battle scene, it's going to mean something. Exactly. That's what, it's what I said at the end of my reaction. I did a reaction for it. last night. Is it like, this is, because some people have been complaining, can we get to the battles? And I'm like, no, this is great. We're laying the groundwork, the character work, so that when these battles happen and people die, we feel it. Like, we really feel it. And, you know, credit to Daphne Keene, and that's all I'll say. Yeah. I don't want to ruin it for anybody. We're having some issues right now. Okay. You want me to read these or are you?

Yeah, after Mike's, Mike's movie, man, it's like, I can't, my mouth, wait, Wait, get something? Wait, thank you got it. All right, I think I got it. You was going to have a backup mouse, man. I do, but it's not working either. Elusive Rock, which Disney movie will reign supreme at the 2024 box office, Inside Out 2, or Deadpool and Wolverine?

And will anything outgross them? Can't wait for Sam Whirl. Yeah, Sam Whirl's coming on the show soon. But, yeah, what do you think, John? What reigns supreme? I do still think Inside Out 2 is going to rain Supreme. I think that's going to have legs for months. I don't know about Deadpool movie.

I think once it blows up opening weekend, we've seen this with all the comic movies. They take massive dips afterwards, and we're not seeing the same kind of massive dips in Inside Out too. So I think people are going to still come back to that movie. And it's despicable Me Four sucks, or isn't that good, that's going to give people even more impetus to go see Inside Out too even more. So you know where I stand.

on Deadpool because I was the one who said it's going to make a billion you said no that being said I still think it's going to hit a billion dollars yes I think that I still think inside out will make more because I don't think that pool will make a billion within three weeks yeah no no no way no and it's going to be longer and it's going to be it's going to be yeah I think inside out two winds up making more but they're going to have two billion dollar movies for sure I think this year yeah 100% I don't know if there's anything that will surpass that yeah I don't know no all right next one Sean Pertisle in an alternate timeline where the schmows now if you never ended the show um I think poorer because we have to split money

that's probably that's probably one I hear you I hear you yeah I mean no I think that there's there's a lot to I would I mean I still go back and there's certain things that and Mark and I talk about this all the time I still think that I would have done things completely differently although it's weird

I say that and especially after watching like dark matter and all these things like there's certain things that like if you could live in two different timelines there'd be the one timeline I wouldn't change anything because it all led me up to what I'm doing I'm super happy with the way that I'm run now and I haven't been stressed out. I mean, the normal stresses that come with running something, but this has been

the best, the last two and a half, three years has been the most relaxed, fun I've ever had doing YouTube podcasting. It's been the best. It's been the best. So I wouldn't want, and without all those moments, those decisions leading up to this, you wouldn't have had that, right? Yeah. But if I had the flip side to it, I would have changed things differently where I probably would have just had Mark and I doing the podcast the way we were doing it and having people kind of come in and i would have put i would have put brett and kate in that that would have been the original crew okay Brett kate mark and myself um that would have been the original crew right right right right up top and then you know when it come when it came to join in collider and doing all that there's there's a flip side to it because one you get a

lot of people who saw you and know you from that. I still get people all the time doing it. But during that time, and it wasn't necessarily the people, you and I have discussed this. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't necessarily just the people there. It was just that all the way that from going from being into YouTube to being on this kind of corporate bubble, it was the opposite where it was probably the most unhappy times of my life. And. Well, because you're not built to be under anyone's thumb. You're just not. I mean, that's something you and I have in common. We're not, we're not really built to be under

people's thumbs and we try to work within that construct and certainly you had an incredible amount of freedom but still there's you know you have to answer to certain you have to you there's requirements and things of that nature and i think you did the best you could for what what was going on there but in the end it wasn't for you and you realize yeah uh lucive rock which disney movie will reign supreme we did that already that one gets in right uh retchon peterson leic yeah why did that jump down oh no we did that already there we go this is it tiberia's monk thank you Hiberius, very kind of you. Hello, gents, both the MCU and the DCEU are self-correcting to get back on track after many blunders.

I don't see this happening at the moment for Star Wars, and I'm not sure if they ever will. Do you see a future course correction for Star Wars? Ever will is always hard to say because ever will means in 200 years from now they won't do it. So you know what I mean? So Ever will, I don't know. But I think that they're in, as I mentioned before, many times over in the Yankees phase, they're in the Steve Sacks phase right now. Steve Sacks, who's a good ball player,

but they weren't winning games when he was with the team. So I think that a lot needs to change. I do think, and I think Kathleen Kennedy should be in the business for a very long time,

and I should continue. I think she should move on and do other things. I just think that she does. I think that the current leadership and the current direction and everything that they have going is the wrong way to go

with this franchise. I don't know if I'm in the minority, but I'm clearly a lot of times people push back and, I remember when used to really love stores. I'm like, I still love, and like I said, I love the Yankees in 1989, 1990. I loved the Yankees and I still watched them all of the time, but they stunk. And I watched them and I watched the Knicks for a long time. They stunk, but I kept watching

them, hoping that they would get better. It's the same thing. Yeah, and I don't know if you've watched the Peacock series that's up on the 1990 Yankees. Highly recommend. I know. I heard was going to my brother told me about it. Oh, my God. Some of the stories I told forgot about. So shout out to any Yankees fans who have watched that series. Please watch it on Peacons, three parts. But yes, agree with you. I mean, that's the thing is they, when are they going to course correct? Because clearly there's an anger amongst the fandom. And it'd be different if like now they're still making like a crap ton of money and the ratings are still high and the numbers are still high. But clearly there is not, that's not happening.

And clearly there's issues going on within this franchise. But I think they are trying to course, correct? I think Iger coming in and saying, we're only going to do this for all the franchises, only a certain amount. I think there's a desire to tell new stories. People have said they don't want any more Skywalker stuff. Okay, we're going to go to the beginning of the Jedi.

We're going to release a series that's about 100 years before a new hope. We're going to do all these things that are outside the world of Skywalker. Walker, but, you know, they aren't 100% knocking it out of the park, and that's becoming the problem. But I don't know what the answer is. Even if you replace Kathleen, there's no guarantee that some new person is going to come in and, like, just know what to do. But that's using the sports analogy again.

Is it a guarantee that the team's going to start winning games with a new coach? It's not a guarantee. But it's just, it's a matter of what does the game plan of the new coach look like? Right. Where are you using your players? Where you, like, you have all these assets. And like, how frustrating is it when you have a really good, when you have a coach with a really good roster and a really good team and they're not using them the right way? Right.

It's so frustrating. And it's the same thing, especially, you know, when people, like, if the fans are happy being in fourth place, it's like, what do you care? They're winning games. They're still in fourth place. It's like, yeah, but you want to win a championship. Right. This is not a fourth place franchise. It's not.

It shouldn't be. All right. Matt Sinister, McCall. got some movie Disney ideas. Inside Out, but the main character is a serial killer. I mean, honestly, that's like a really war. That would be something like that Winnie the Pooh thing, but it really warped. Also, Jedi Harloff and Brett versus Sith Rob Zombie, the budget 40 mil.

Easy. Easy. I love Matt Sinister's, like, comment to brighten my day. I really do. Well, there isn't a serial killer film out, like Inside Out now, right? Yeah, where it's told from the serial killer's point of view. you're literally the point of view of the serial of the whole movie oh wow okay so it's out it's already been done all right uh Luke James actor been a fan since 2015 thank you very much

keep up the great work uh I was going through some of those old schmodeown matches because of the channel you know the archive channels up and oh yeah like you're watching like your debut in like the in the in the actor buzz studios oh the after buzz right yeah that's where you and um in the nose host debut. Yeah. Skeleton Strange New World's number one fan. Thank you so much for the very kind superchats. Considering hate casts have 500,000 to a million subscribers. Is there a pressure on podcast to do as the Romans do and blast everything is a product of lefty, woke kind of his hate more probable. It's not, that is not an unfair question. It is a very, of course it is an unfair. It's a very fair question. And I think that's probably why people will get looped

into if you that is why i'm telling you like when i do criticisms i do criticisms in the way that i'm going to say like look here are the things that i think work in this show but here are the things that are not working for me and for me what is not working outweighs what is and when you say it like that you shouldn't get and i'm not saying that you're saying this to our to our viewer here but you shouldn't get that well you're just going with what everyone is saying you're just going it's like no there are people who are just doing like there are certain people who are just like They weren't pulling anything from anything on views. And then they just start shitting on everybody and calling people shills and doing that.

And then there you go. And that because that's what people do. And that's what people want to go and watch because there is a frustration on the way certain things are run. I think that I think it's fair to say that. But there are sometimes when it's when there's warranted criticisms and there's times when it's just hate. But I do think that people will say, hey, it's not working for me. I'm trying to do reviews and nobody watches,

but then I did one video shitting on somebody else and it does well, and they go down that dark side. The problem with that is you can't ever like anything because if you do, it's off your brand. Well, that's the truth, is that you, that's the problem. It's like you've got to have an incredible stomach for toxicity if you keep going down that path because that audience constantly needs to be fed anger

and hatred and upset or, and in anything, and you have to find it. You have to find it. Even in a great, I don't say it, I want to say great, but even in a damn good episode, like the recent episode of the Acolyte,

people found little things to nitpick about it because they have to have. I found stuff to nitpick, and I wasn't hating it. Well, no, I'm saying, but you don't have a hate channel. I'm saying the people who run, because I'm guarantee you they didn't say,

I loved this. Like, I just, I watched somebody put it on Twitter, this guy who broke down the lightsaber fight, this fucking super nerd laughing his ass off at the hard work of these artists and and and um stunt people and and choreographers and that little nerds going to stand there and make fun of them i was like shut the fuck up you know it's that it's that kind of shit that you're just like why like what is feeding this hatred within you and then if you push back at them they call you a bully they

call you the bully which is of course projection and you're right there are people who couldn't pull shit for views, but all of a sudden they start crapping on Star Wars or crapping on people who like Star Wars and all of a sudden they're making all kinds of getting all kinds of followers and stuff. And then they're being like, oh, guys, thank you so much for helping me cross 20,000 subscribers. You guys love my work. You're a toxic fool. The hell. So anyway, yeah. I don't even know what you're talking about it. But I exactly. Gene Burns watched yesterday the movie. If that happened right now, what movie could you make from beginning to end from memory? probably Eternal Sunshine

of a spotless mind. For memory. I think so. I think so because I've watched the movie some of the hours now. I would have, probably, probably a major league. Oh yeah.

You're probably that one too. Star Trek 2 and I think Shawshank Redemption. Wow. Those three, oh, and Rocky 4. Woo! Yeah, any of the Rocky movies. Me and you could do that from beginning to end,

live by line. You know what? I just started watching. I just started watching with my 12-year-old was Bill and Ted, the first one. Oh, nice. And I wanted to see if, and she's, because she's into Stranger Things and she was like, talking about 80s movies.

I was like, you want to watch a good one with me? And she's like, she goes, just dad, this movie's ridiculous. She goes, in the best way possible. Yes. Okay, next one. Yeah. Colin C. Disney should have hired Star Wars Theory years ago.

Well, I don't know as far. Look, what I will tell you is that I will say his, his Vader, his Vader film was fucking really good. The first Vader film, really, really good. But I don't think they're going to hire any fans. I don't think they're going to do it. Artem Shackaraman. Should Star Wars fans look at legends as something that doesn't exist?

Fundy age, Darth Plagas, name is canon, but his full backstory on species is legend. So if Disney made Cameron, Darth Plagas, no one should be upset, right? So you could, but the question is then how does he not age even? I mean, I guess, you know, it's 100 years beforehand, so he'd have to be, I mean, is he not human? if he was Darth Plagueis, he'd be a hundred and, you know, 20 years old or 30 years old by the time he starts training in Palpatine along those lines. So I don't know if you can definitely do that, but no, the species isn't. But I think that there's certain things that, I don't know, because look, you go back to Cayamundi and you look at his age.

Does that species now, that species age like that? when you look, the problem was the answer they gave for that. And it was, well, Yoda wasn't available. So we had, we used someone else. And it's like, that does not, that should not be the answer. It doesn't compute. No. But I don't know.

How do you feel about it, John? Do you think, first of all, do you think Manny could be Darth Plagas and would you be okay with that? I guess because I'm not as tied to the Darth Plagas thing as other people are. Like, people are really into the Darth Plague. I know the Darth Plague's story, but I don't like, is like, oh, you better do it right. You know, I don't have that kind of obsession.

And Legends is Legends. It is not canon. So they can pick and choose what they want out of Legends. No matter how much you've read it and fall in love with it and worship it, it's not canon to them. And so they're going to pick and choose what they want to pick and choose out of Legends for what works for their story. And people just have to deal with it because Keada Monday's age was not canon.

And so, you know, they can do what they want with it. That's part of owning something. And so we'll see if they do it. But I don't think he is plagus. I really don't. That would surprise me on so many levels. He won't be. Because I don't think he's the bad guy.

I don't think he's the main bad guy. There's one more. No, unfortunately, I do. I think my original prediction is going to be right. Is that the, there's a master above him? It's going to be the witch. The other, the other, the other way. Oh, you think Coral?

Coral. The other, the mother, the second mother. Yeah. Not, not Jody Turner Smith. Um, I think because the whole thing with the, you know, my, my, my, my mother. used to be able to do that. And it's like, oh, no.

And like, you're going to make the main, it makes me nervous. I would be surprised if she's, but I think they work together, and that's why she survived the attack. I think she brought him in to go against the Jedi, and then that's why they killed. But I,

but I think David. Maybe you're right. Let's, let's see. Francisco Lopez, y'all crazy. I would move Dune 3, and I love Dune movies with Star Wars or Star Wars, no matter how bad,

it's still Star Wars, especially Star Wars film. Yeah, but what you're not looking at is this. If you're Star Wars, yes, the average person, what I will agree with is they're going to hear Star Wars and, oh, I've got to see this in the movie. I got to see this in the movie theater. But if you're Disney, you don't want that kind of competition with Dune because Dune has now built up an audience. Dune has now built up a critical audience as well, too. People are going, you know, you've gotten quality plus, the Neville and Noob is one of the best, if not the best filmmaker out there right now.

Yeah. So if you're Dune, yeah, okay, we'll go up. against Star Wars. And it's like, it's, that's fine. We've already done our, we've done our thing. People want to see this movie. Star Wars is in this place where, yeah, you're going to get the average person. Oh, it's a Star Wars movie. It's just Star Wars. And those people will go see the movie. It's crazy. Yeah, I, I wouldn't want any competition at all if I'm Star Wars at this point, especially not Dune. So yeah, I'm moving out of the way if I'm Star Wars. Okay, so we're moving on here too. More questions coming in. Thank you guys so much. Here's the next one. And Nick Alexander,

Should Star Wars try and do one live action and one animated show a year? Let the writers focus on one project at a time, also one movie at a time. I actually have changed my tune significantly when it comes to. I think Star Wars should do one TV show every two years and one movie every three years for now. Wow. And just focus on getting it good again. Yeah. What was the thing that people, I mean, I think Ellis used to complain about this,

that he missed the anticipation, the weight for. So, yeah, you might be right, man, that we start playing the longer game like they used to instead of the immediate gratification game because clearly they're getting smoked by that. Well, the reason I was always so into it, the idea of doing one is because I was in the Marvel phase. The Marvel was doing it so well for those first three phases.

And, like, yeah, all the canon and the continuity and you're working like a TV show. And it's like, but they were, Marvel was paying really great attention to everything that they were doing. Star Wars has been, whether you changed a canon or not change a canon from legends, have been farting up timelines and certain things, the Leah story inside of,

and that little girl was wonderful in that show, but it was an unnecessary storyline with her. Yeah, the Benny Hill scene. Did you watch that yet? Have you seen that yet? Oh, yeah. It's so good. But all that stuff and like,

it's just, it's so messy that like don't put more of it out, because you haven't really gotten an idea of how to do it. Yeah. Mirror domains. How does studios deal with 100 million bombs like Horizon? Well, as we said, the one of the others doesn't have to deal with anything. They didn't put the money up for it.

So they're not losing money. It's like they're basically just saying, as John said, they're in the Kevin Costner business. Yeah, we'll distribute your movie. No problem. That's factored into business. Like that's factored into the businesses every year with studios. Like, okay, this is what we want to be in business. All that stuff is factored into their bottom line constant.

And the reason they took this gamble on is, as I said, to be in a Kevin Costum business, but also because it wasn't going to cost them anything. Same thing having Lionsgate is distributing Megalopolis, the Coppola film. Copeland is putting $20 million of his own money into the marketing. And that's the only reason Lionsgate signed on to distribute it. No one else was going to distribute this film studio-wise that was big until Coppola said, you know what, 20 million? I'll do that towards the marketing.

Exactly. So that particular thing, they don't really lose any money. So, Carlton Rutter, London calling. What's up, Carlton? If Dune Part 3 is as good or even better than one and two, could we be looking at the best trilogy of all time? It's hard for me to say yes on that, even though I would understand if someone wanted to say yes on that,

because I don't see, and I've gotten an argument from Roxy on this and other people, too, I don't really see Dune 1 and Dune 2 is two separate movies. I see it as one big movie that he made in general, but I can understand the argument for it, But one and two are the same book. It's the same story. Well, do you feel the way about The Hobbit? Like all three of those films is basically one long nine hour film.

It's the same book. You know, the, I may, but what was the other one that I said more so? Like, well, a better example, I think is the last two Harry Potter movies. Okay. Yeah. Two Harry Potter movies as two different movies. I see it as one big movie because it's part one and part two. now dune i see i would see dune as two movies once it's once it's over and i know it's part one part

two if you watch it as well one one continued story three is going to be a completely different story it's not connected to it so it's hard but if somebody wanted to say you're an idiot's three movies and yeah counts i would also say you're probably right what does shooting them back to back to count like it was like no that's stopped that would be the opposite of why because like in the same way i mean look back to the future two and back to i was going to ask you about they shot back to Yeah, but those are, but those are two different stories. They're two different stories. Two, he's trying to do, he's got to go to the future, he's got to go back to

1955 again, and then he loses Doc, right? And now the whole third movie is all about the Western storyline. Well, maybe there's two different movies because they're not, there's not source material for it, right? There's not, yeah, true. Yeah, I think that's where your logic has the strongest point. All right, Haskell, you can each pick any five actors and actresses for the right, for a remake Can I Bull Run, Jackie Chan returning.

I pick, Clooney, Pitt, Damon, Kimmel, Burr, Ellis, Kelsey, Swift. Hold on. What? Ellis Kelsey. Ellis? Travis Kelsey? Ellis Kelsey? Mark Ellis? I think so. I got lost there. Whig and McKinnon.

Ed, you've been watching this show long enough to know by doing an on the spot, five actors, directors, and all that stuff. I can't think of that on the spot. right now five actors and actresses right i mean for for that actual remake i mean comedy wise and there's just so many there's people that i know that i'm going to say you know it would be great in that and i forgot to bring them up was this person yeah you know like who's got really someone i just talked recently who's got great comedic timing just really really good he wouldn't expect it i can't remember but that's but that's a that that's hard for me to hard for me to say but i

think your your choices are good i like the i think the i'm i've i've been i've i probably put, yeah, Channing Tainter is a good is a good. I'd remove Kimmel. Bird, definitely. Aaron Burr, definitely. I mean, Aaron Burr, Jesus Christ, Bill Burr. Bill Burr. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a tough one though, Ed. Lynn Manuel's got, or one of the Latino, like Pedro or Oscar Isaac, one of those guys has got to be in there. Yeah. He follows that. I'm excited to see Karate's bad boys also back. Mike Barnes coming back? That's good. Possibly. Okay. I'm sure he will. He was good in the show, too.

I might be having a, you know, I always usually get one, one to five of the actors when the new season comes, comes out. And there's only a few that I haven't actually interviewed, whether in person or on streaming. So I think I'm getting one that I, that I haven't done before. Kaya or Monday. Hey, thank you so much. I appreciate that. I'm sorry. Oh, though you're kidding.

I know. I old are you. Put that in the next. Thank you so much. It was very kind to you. I really appreciate it. Trevor Jenkins, coming in hot. Do you think Disney would ever consider licensing out the Star Wars IP to a studio like Apple or Amazon?

I think if they were ever to consider, we'd have a richer, more mature story. The answer is, do I think that you're right? And have I been saying about going to Apple and doing Amazon? I think it would be the most wonderful thing to wake up to. Do I think it'll happen? You got a better chance of John Roker telling me that he's never going to watch soccer ever again. Yeah. And that he has now become a New York Giants fan.

You have a better chance of that happening than them licensing out. Right now, they don't think anything's wrong. I don't think. I don't think they think anything's wrong over there. I really don't. They think it's the fans who are, they'll get it and upset about it. Yeah, I really don't think they think anything's wrong. I think that, you know, if you tell like, yeah, I really don't.

Okay, next one. He's determined to do a Ray movie. It's very clear that Kennedy is determined to do a Ray movie. I mean, yeah, I mean, look, but I understand it, to quote the announcement, is in Rocky 3. I understand the strategy. I really I understand the strategy. I mean, it's like if you look at it, if you're if you're a producer like Kennedy is and you go, okay, I have I need a win. I really need to win because I haven't had my Indiana Jones movie had a big pile of shit. I, I haven't had a Star Wars movie in the theater since episode nine.

My TV shows are in who knows what kind of money I'm doing there. I haven't done a movie. I'm a film producer and I haven't produced a film, a successful film in almost five years. Yeah. I need something big. Well, let me look at my numbers. I have this Star Wars brand. The last three Star Wars movies that I did inside of this franchise, inside of the episodes, all had Daisy Ridley in them, not including Rogue One.

They all had Daisy Ridley in them. I'm going to call Daisy Ridley back. Of course. You understand the strategy behind it. The question is, do people care as much about it? I still think the movie will do well, and I think people do care about Daisy Ridley, but we'll see.

Skeleton Strange New World's number one fan. How do podcasts with large followings that don't take superchats and don't have sponsors earn money? I don't get the economics. I don't know of any large podcasts with large followings that don't have sponsors. I don't know any podcast. If you're a large podcast and you don't have sponsors,

you are doing something wrong. Yeah, that's very true. Every podcast. Every large podcast, has it now the super chat side of it is like where i said what i was going to do in um because i was doing when we had the stream labs for the the schmobot that turned me off from doing anything like that ever again because the show became a telephone i've talked about that um but i wanted to do something where if we if john and i could do all the movie topics i mean to get an opportunity to

hear from the fans and to do it that way that that to me is a win-win so but as far as like the with a large follows, they earn it. And if they're on YouTube, they'll learn from both AdSense and sponsors. Yeah. You can't have a large podcast and not, the goal is, they'll tell you that in podcasting 101, the goal is to get an audience so you get sponsors. And then you, and then the other part of it is always get sponsors that you think your audience will enjoy.

That's why you only to like people, they'll come to you and they'll say, hey, the ad agencies, hey, we have this person, this person, and I say, you can't tell you how many times I've said, I don't think my audience is going to respond to that. I don't think my audience will like that. I don't think the audience will care about it. And I say, I don't think that's right for the show. It might be worried for somebody else. Yeah. And the other aspect, somebody mentioned Rogan. Rogan's getting paid by Spotify and he's getting paid by Spotify because Rogan, he has sponsors. He elevates the presence of Spotify, other people, other people's podcasts, benefits, and the sponsors they're putting on those podcasts benefit from that. But don't forget about Patreon. A lot of

these big YouTube have Patreon and Patreon they make a lot of money off Patreon. Rogan has who said, someone said Rogan doesn't have sponsors. Yeah, someone said Rogan to be a talking about. I was listening to Rogan not too long ago and AG1, a few other ones popped up. Stern has fucking sponsors. Yes, that's how you,

Rogan 100% has sponsors. Okay, next one. Don Reynolds, McQuith, a standing support. Thank you, Don. That was very kind. Thank you, Don. And we get Mad Sinister,

McCall, an overrated movie you hate. Everybody loves and why. We did that one. Didn't we do that one? We said over it. And I can't remember what the answer was, but something that somebody, the one that I did, the one that I did. Always do that one. People love that movie. I think movies smells like farts. And you said Goonies. Yeah. Yeah. And I think

they said Goonies Part 2 is coming up. 40 years later. Luke Skywanker. Will Deadpool and Wolverine, will it crack a billion? I have certainly, well, look, all I needed to do is crack 750 and I'm going to, and John's going to get me steak dinner. I might change. I might let you change it, though.

I might let you change it. Don't let me do it. I don't need your pity. I don't need your sympathy. You don't want to hear my deal? What's your deal? My deal was going to be after I win that, because I don't know in the next time, you know,

if I might probably be back in L.A. at some point, but then we could do it when I, when I see you there, or I just can do a reduced, a reduced fee, and you can just send DoorDash to my place. A reduced fee. Listen to you. Yeah. I'm going to win.

You know that. You know I'm going to win. I don't know. You stop this. So, Don. Reynolds Big Whiskey bonjourno's New York pizzeria on Padway Road is good it's good it's good okay that's good okay I'll find it in New York oh okay how I road is San Diego oh okay okay okay good yeah take look on yeah you you should also do you should check you know

Barstow's uh the one-byte pizza she's ever done San Diego oh yeah I should take a look at Senator McCaul long legs trailer was scary you're seeing the movie do you know what that is yeah it's a horror film uh that Jeff's been talking about as well it's pretty intense uh we'll see okay simon section christian john are we both in agreement that if star wars and dune both open on the same date you watch star wars first and then dune messiah save the best for last not a bad point i mean look john and i are going to have the that we always have the benefit of seeing them because we're our jobs right so if where do i hope the screening for star wars comes in first and do i hope that dune comes in second yeah probably probably

again, depending on which movie it is that comes out. And depends on the trailers, too. Yeah. It depends on the trailers. You know? Yeah. So, I mean, I think that what, that's something that can come out and say, okay, those trailers a little bit more.

I mean, there is something to be said. Can you imagine, though? And it'll never happen. I know it. But like, imagine if the movie was actually really great and that it actually did, like, those hate channels and everybody else was like, hey, listen, this is a good movie. Yeah. Whatever they did, they listened up.

and they made a good movie here. So I can't shit on this one because this one's pretty good. And they have like all that and actually kind of kumbaya moment, but I don't think it's that. Stephen Thomas, what about the rumor that Faloni actually supervised some shoots of the accolite? Maybe not Penske material, though he took smaller office. That's what you were,

yes what you've been talking about, right? Absolutely. I mean, one of the writers already came out and said that, and she then, like, turned off her social media, but she said that Faloni absolutely chimed in on all the scripts. so I'm not surprised if you shot some of the sections. I'm not surprised at all, which is why I think that needs to come out. You know, leading Leslie to hang in the wind and take all the shit while he sits back with his feet up on the desk is bullshit.

He's got to take some hits as well. You a man? Take your hits. It frustrates me that he's letting her hang out in the wind when he knows he's done some shit that hasn't been good. But wait a minute. That goes back to what we were. If it's true. Well, wait a minute.

Even if it is true. That goes back to what you and I are just talking. What's that? They don't think anything's wrong. They think the show is great. Fair point. Fair point. The show is great.

They think that it's, you know, they're happy with the way it is. They're happy with the changes that they've made. They think that it's worked for the best. I do think, and like I said, and there's a very big change for me from, you know, whatever was, seven, eight years ago, that I think that Filoni should stick to doing what he does. He should not be in charge of the whole thing.

He's got too much of a clouded view of what Star Wars is, I think. Well, do the animated stuff because maybe the live action isn't working out for it. Maybe that's the better. And I bet you the argument would come against that from that side of it. All right, Matt Sinister Macal. Cade Mundi gave you $50 Super. He's still a punk. That's $50 Mexican.

That's not $50 Americans. Two different things. It was still nice. Yeah, of course it was. It was still nice. All right. Here's another one. This is Ronetta.

Renetta's coming out. Nice to you, Renetta. I love The Quiet Place. And I like how it ended. Lepida's a phenomenal actress. for Inside Out too. I can't wait for Deadport. Yeah, I was really, it was a nice change for me. So I went nice and it was also great was like you because it takes place, the movie takes place in New York. So I saw it in Manhattan. Nice. Which was it added to the experience. Um, like getting right for you to drop, walking from Penn Station to the movie theater, getting to the movie theater, walking in there, sitting down and then it comes up and its first scenes like Manhattan. I'm like, oh, this is, it felt like it was like one of those kind of immersive experience.

It was pretty great. Yeah. All of the last three star movies were not a win. Force Awakens was good, but last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker was mid and very divisive. Rogue One was good. They're a win for business-wise. So I don't disagree with you that they're not a win for the overall sanctity of the brand. Yeah.

But if you're Disney and you're looking back at those movies, financially they're all a win. All four of those movies are a win. Solo's no more than the loss. And yet, John Hoey's still tagging make Solo 2 happen. Even knowing it's the biggest Star Wars box office disaster of all time. I love Joey, but I love John.

I don't understand that. Stay away from that tag. Anyway, but it, Rogue 1 was good. Force Awakens was good, but it's, look, I feel the same way, I don't go back and watch any of those movies because even though I liked Force Awakens when it came out, those movies just, you know, what's coming afterwards. In the same way that, yeah, I don't, I never watch.

the when you watch hunger games after you watch catching fire right when you watch a movie mocking jay is just not a good book and it's not a good movie and you're like yeah that all leads to this i don't want to rewatch this shit and it's the same thing but business wise absolutely was a win there's no arguing yeah i only go back to watch force awakens and then i'll watch scenes from the other two films but not the whole thing yeah all right uh jonathan we know the Batman Part 2 shoots early next year. We don't know that. We don't know that. I don't know what are you getting that.

All right. You think Frazier will be able to come back with Dune 3 also? I think that he's going to do everything possible to get him back, as he should. Yeah, he will come back. And I don't, we don't necessarily know when Batman Part 2 is shooting now. I think you've got pushed back. Okay, next one. Leslie Headland says, this is from Artem, Shaq Moran. Leslie Headland said that season one of the Acclade has a definitive ending.

over under 60% that season 2 will happen. I'm going to go under. I'm going to go under right now. I'm going to go under because I'm going to, if you're Bob Eiger, you've got to say, can we get something that everyone loves?

Please. And it's like, and yeah, you're always going to get the, well, not, you're never going to get that, Bob. But all right, fine, can we get something that people love the same way

they like season one and season two and Rogue One? Can we do that? Is that point? possible. Like that's what I would say if finish this season up and look all eyes are going to be on Skeleton Crew. Here. Yeah. Do you hearing anything about

Skeleton Crew? Uh, no. Not much. Not much. I don't think this is going to, Scalter Cruise is a kid show. I don't think. It's not a kid show. He's in charge of kids. So yeah, they'll have some darkness to it. Is stranger things a kid show? I think the first

couple of seasons are a kid show. Oh, you're crazy. And then it becomes a little more and they're dealing with real shit, like real shit. All right. There's two Harry Potter films. Those are kids' films. And then I would give you that more so over stranger things being a kid show. All right.

Galaxy Geeks. What's up, man? What's up? John, if you watch Superman Lois, it's amazing. Look, I've, I had a, one of my friends is an, it was an EP on the show. Okay. And he has ridden me pretty hard the last few days that I have not watched past the first two episodes. So I will be now committed to watching at least one or two episodes today.

I love it. People love it. He is very clear that I should love that show. People love it. I know. Adam keeps on me about it too. Shea Markell. I'm loving the films being released,

but I can't shake my disappointment in some of the cast. I have a desire to see New Blood instead of casting Chris Brat for everything. Yeah, I mean, look, that happens. And whether it's Chris Pratt, Timothy Shalame, now it's going to be Glenn. and Powell. Pedro Pascal. Pedro Pascal, every single time that there's someone that's hot, those are the names that come up. And before his problems, Jonathan Majors was another guy that was thrown in for everything right now because he was the hot guy. So I do think that there are times that you've got to be able to pull back and say, yeah, yeah, we know that that person is real famous right now and real hot, but it's not going to serve it because all people are going to see us, oh, that's Chris Pratt.

So I think that there's ways to do it, but I'm with you, but. but which which one was he he likes the films in general that are being released. Yeah, he's the voice of Garfield. That's what people are. Yeah, yeah, I understand. But I think things like that, I'm a little bit more passive. I didn't give her shit that he played Mario. And I thought Mario, my little one

just watched Mario again. I like that movie. That's a good movie. I don't know, I don't know what the critics were watching. That's a damn good movie. I like that movie. It's a cute movie. And I said they're no stuck up for that one. Yes, boy. Coy is on to something. Could Claudia Dummit?

to make him in on the boys be a good cast for Talia Gould. Could be. Depends on what you want to do with her. This gets into some mind field territories. I don't, I think Claudia is a damn good actress

and I love her on the boys. Do I think she exudes that sexuality that Talia should exude? I don't necessarily see that. But of course, that's subjective. I don't personally see it. I think there's another actress

you could possibly find who radiates that a bit more. Now, it doesn't mean that Claudia isn't attractive. She's certainly very attractive for her and Jack Quaid. Congratulations. They're seeing each other. But from what I understand. But like, I don't necessarily see that vibe. I mean, like, who did we have?

What's her name? I forget her name. The one in Dark Night Rises? Oh, Marianne Cotier. Yeah, we had Marianne Cotillard. Now, that woman is sexy. That's Italia. Yeah, but she's with one of the worst deaths.

I know, 100%. I don't know how they let that go. But you talked about on Capson, Friday, it's just like, all the takes, Nolan's like, Nolan goes, I went on vacation for one day.

One day. And I said, pick the shot, it's fine, just pick the good death shot. One day, I went, and you pick that one?

He's like, it's the worst. It's the worst. All right, last one here. Al Wrench, if WB did curse a child easy a $1.4 billion

movie. I mean, I don't know if it's easy, one point four, but I certainly think that there's there's a chance it makes a lot of money. I'm also very curious to see how this streaming service, the streaming show comes out. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think that, that streaming shows is coming out within the next year and a half, two years, I think, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, now that they've got a show winner, which I've been. Yeah. All right. We did it.

So, yeah. Thank you for joining this, John. And you got a lot going on your channel, man. Let us know what's, what's the deal. Yeah. Come on, guys. head on over to the Outlaw Nation. YouTube.com slash John Roka says.

A lot going on over there. Some new geek buddy stuff. We dropped our review for the boys yesterday. I just dropped my reaction to the new Cobra Kai trailer that's up now. And then later you'll see my reaction to House of the Dragon from last night. We'll have the review tomorrow as well. A lot going on plus the Jedi away. Plus the hot mic, of course, with Jeff and I.

We might do a pre-recorded one this week, possibly. And then, of course, my other podcast, the Cineophiles, which you all can download as well. Thanks for having me on, brother. It's great to see you always. Can you before you run? What's this one? Jonathan says Andy Circus confirmed it.

Confirmed what? The shooting of Batman. But he could say whatever he wants, he's not shooting it and he's not the studio. So, yeah. Okay. All right. John,

before you bite someone and settle. Bye. All right. Thank you guys for joining me. Thanks for John for being here. And as always, please hit that subscribe button if you're brand new the channel. Thank you, everybody who put it

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Where if you watch Robert Taney Jr. sweepstakes, he does the, he's co-host, and he also is the co-owner of the Gotham Comedy Club. We had a great conversation. I'm going to put that on the channel this week. We have so much going down.

And I'd like to thank our sponsors, I'd thank everybody else who's been a part of it this week, and I can't wait for you to see everything we got coming out. The House of the Dragon, I am going to be doing a spoiler review that will go up a little later on today. Just got to put that together and I'll put that out. And that's it, man. So thanks for joining us here.

You guys are the best. We'll see you guys very, very soon. You're the wonderful, wonderful crew, and I love you so much and I appreciate it. And we'll see you soon. Bye-bye.