The Kristian Harloff Show - Early Fan Reactions For THUNDERBOLTS* Just Dropped!

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

🔥 The early reactions to Marvel's THUNDERBOLTS* are in — and fans are blown away! On today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, Kristian is joined by John Rocha and Roxy Striar to break down the first wave of fan reactions, Florence Pugh's emotional performance, and how this darker MCU outing is shaking things up. 💥 From the intense character work to the buzz around two post-credit scenes, we're digging into everything that has early viewers calling Thunderbolts one of Marvel's most human and heartfelt stories yet. Plus, the director clears up why this film isn't a sequel to Black Widow — even though some familiar faces return. 🎬 Topics also include: The teaser trailer for "Wednesday" Season 2 just dropped, and it's bringing a whole new horror tone! The Last of Us Season 2 Episode 2 reaction — Joel's fate hits hard, and we talk about the fallout. Rocha and Roxy give their thoughts on Episodes 1-3 of Andor Season 2 and what's working so far. New creepy details emerge about M. Night Shyamalan's upcoming thriller Remain. Ryan Coogler and Michael De Luca celebrate the box office success of Sinners and the power of original storytelling. 🎥 Whether you're curious about Marvel's bold new direction, still processing the latest from The Last of Us, or getting hyped for Netflix's Wednesday return, this episode is packed with passionate takes and must-know updates. #Thunderbolts #Marvel #ThunderboltsReaction #FlorencePugh #SebastianStan #MCU #WednesdaySeason2 #TheLastOfUs #JoelDeath #AndorSeason2 #RyanCoogler #SinnersMovie #KristianHarloffShow STITCH FIX: Make style easy—get started today at https://www.StitchFix.com/KHS 

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Cummins is a registered trademark of Cummins, Enme, are registered trademarks of FCA, U.S. LLC. What's up, everybody? Happy Wednesday. Welcome to the Christian Harloff show. I am John Roker. Don't adjust your sets. That's right. On today's show, we have the first reaction to Thunderbolts.

There were a lot of screenings last night for people to see all across the country. I don't know if they did it internationally. So we're going to hear from people who went to see it, got a chance to go see it, and their thoughts on it. And how the new Marvel movie lands with the people who saw it. Also, there was a Wednesday season two. teaser trailer that dropped this morning little plug i did a reaction for it so if you want to go there after the show be great also and or dropped its first three episodes last night season two dropped the first three episodes last night and kugler talks uh sinners success and michael b jordan's comments as

well and more and of course all your questions today on the christian harlough show with myself and the great roxy strier so let's not uh let's not dilly dally any longer let's get into this thing here we go Yeah, it's me. The outlaw John Roker sitting in for the head boss there, Christian Harloff, excited to talk about all those topics with Marvel, Last of Us, and or sinners, so much to get into here. Now, of course, all your questions that you want to ask about it. Look, you don't want to look at my pretty face.

You want to look at another pretty face, and she's incredibly intelligent, on top of things, a great pundit. You see her all over the place. And not only that, she's acting all over Europe. It's incredible. Shout out to the great Roxy Stryor who's joining me. How are you, Roxy? We're a little bit of R&R today. I say that again. What does that mean? Roka and Roca's.

Oh, yeah. R and Rokane. We're bringing some on an R to your screen. I feel like Roxy and Roca is the better mix. But yes, okay, fine. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. How are you? How are things? It goes alphabetically. And you and I have such a cent. We got the same two letters, but then you got the C. I got the X. So we got to go Roka, Roca Rossi. That makes sense. That makes good to know. I should have known that when I was dealing with that.

How are you? How are things? What's going on in your world? I don't ever see you. I know. It's so crazy. Thank you for letting Christian, letting Roca and I use this as our catch up two hours.

Absolutely. Yes. I'm doing, I was here yesterday. So the people saw me again. And since I left here yesterday, I did watch the first three episodes of Andor. Did you get the entire drop or are you three yet?

Yeah. I spent yesterday watching all 12 episodes that started at 8 a.m. finished right before six when it ended so yeah oh my god yeah it was i told i told my lady outlaw's like honey i i will maybe be able to talk a couple of times but it's just watching the show using the bathroom showering and right back to the show so this is my life and eating this is my life all day today so yeah i watched it which episodes did you need to shower between uh right between one, two, three, four, five, right between six and the start of the next six. Okay.

So I got to about 1230, 1245. I was like, okay, cool. I can use a restroom, shower, order my food, and then by one o'clock, go right back into the next six episodes and got it done barely in time. Yeah. Three episodes was too many for me. Okay. Let's talk about it. Why?

Man, I don't want to get, I'm the only person I know who didn't write home about the first season of Andor. I, okay. If you guys are, if you don't watch the Tuesday, Christian Harlov show, then you might not know. I watch 120 shows minimum a year. So I watch more television than anybody I know may be tied with Josh Makuga pre-having kids, but not now, you know. So I watch so, so much television. Yeah.

So for me, I am rating this as a TV show, not as a Star Wars property. I am a Star Wars novice. I am not a star. I've seen every Star Wars movie. I've seen the live action shows. But I, I'm not like these people who know every, you know,

I'm not a Christian. I don't know that much about Star Wars. I've just seen them as a casual fan. So this to me, I'm thinking, how is it as a TV show, not how is this as a Star Wars? Right.

Right. And so the first season, everybody was like religious about it. I mean, at the time, I was hosting World Girls with Doreena and Steph. Every week, they were like, This is the greatest ever, best show ever.

And I was like, it's good. I think it's good. I think it's a totally good show. And so Christian warned me, he warned me yesterday. The first three episodes, I don't think you're going to be stoked on. But then after that, I think you're going to be excited. And I hope that that's true. I hope that after that I am excited.

This show is absolutely totally adequate. Like it is it is not a bad show. Everything looks amazing, sounds amazing. The performances are great. So that alone gives it a bare minimum. It's good. Yeah. I just don't care about the stories at all.

Wow. So far in season two. I didn't I don't care. I don't know. There's so many people. I don't know you guys. I don't know you guys. I don't know how this affects the future of.

start i think that if i understood how this connected to row one if i remembered rogue one at all yeah yeah i'd be higher for me right but i'm watching this and i'm like this is fine this looks good uh episode three started to pick up for me okay have qualms with that which we'll get into those are my general thoughts on the first three episodes i i hope you loved it because otherwise i feel like people are going to turn us off no no i absolutely loved it and i and i tweeted it out yesterday or exed out whatever people say i posted it out yesterday my thoughts on it i thought the entire season uh was incredible i did enjoy the first three episodes because i like these characters and i like the kind of guttiness of the show to show you what a

fascist dictatorship would actually look like you know the thing we love in star wars is the empire we like to you know quietly cheer for vader or loudly cheer for vader even though he's killed like billions of people he's been a pretty even killing those kids in the prequel series but still people have a love for some of the villains in the star wars universe well this show kind of strips all of that away and goes, this is what it actually would be like if an empire was in control of all these planets could go into a planet and without impunity sexually assault its citizens, whenever the hell they felt like it, shut down communication so no one can know what's going on on your planet. These little things that they were showing throughout the first three episodes,

I thought were really interesting. And then on the other side, you had the stuff with Cassian being stuck on the planet, with the civil, these two warring gangs, whatever they are, amongst each other, showing you that, you know what, no progress is made when two sides keep fighting each other and eventually the person you caught escapes. And so there's a lot of that that the commentary going throughout for me that I enjoyed. And by the third episode, you get to see this unique and interesting relationship where it's a man who is essentially in service to his wife, or his girlfriend, I guess he would be being moved on from his mom who was passive aggressively controlling him. So I thought that was interesting real world.

stuff combined with Star Wars, things like Gorman and Owen Krenick and all of that. So for me, I don't even know what you just said. Yeah, I know. For me, it mixes in. That's my reality is that when I'm watching this, I'm a little frustrated because they keep doing these references and then I'll see online people are like, oh, but, blah, and I was like, what? And again, it's good to reward the diehard.

That's who you should be rewarding. I'm all for that. I just, I've never felt so out of the loop. ever as a nerd this just isn't my nerddom even though I really like Star Wars I'm like who are you guys talking about and I'm like pause Google

and I'm like have I seen this person before? And to your point John I think if it wasn't for the fact that I'm watching that all of the time and for me better like Hammade's Tale

is telling that story but I think but I think better for me. Silo, severance. I mean, we work with a lot of fascist regimes or at least like the little people trying to take out the big people

on television these days. It's not like nobody is brave enough because I keep hearing that. Like I think it's so brave of them to tell this story. And while I think it's becoming more common because look at our current life situations and even our history, right?

Like it becomes common because this is throughout history and ages, this is some of the best storytelling that we can do because we pull from our own experiences. Right, right. But it's just not the only show on TV that's talking about this. So I need it to be great. I'm definitely sticking with it.

And the performances are really carrying me because they're stellar. The performances are so good. But I just wish I cared about any of the storylines. Okay, let me ask you this. Spoilers or no spoilers? Well, I do want to say, one thing with your brave thing before we move on i think it is brave to do this in the world of star wars and so you have to put that in the context i think what you're saying is absolutely correct

it's not brave in the world of television overall because we've seen this stuff before but i think in the world of star wars that was the first time the word rape has ever been uttered in any live action star wars ever that's the first time i seem like that has really been shown in star wars so there's little things that they're doing that i do think are brave within the context of the pupeu Pugh's Star Wars. It doesn't mean there hasn't been dark stuff before, of course. But yeah, this level to this level, we haven't really seen in Star Wars. And I think that's important. But yes, okay. You're so right. That's why I started this by saying, I am reviewing this as a television show. Right. Exactly. So, but if this, if we are talking about this as a Star Wars property,

then I think it's a completely different parameters, right? This is a Disney property. Right. So we're under a completely different umbrella then. Okay, for speaking on what you just mentioned is what I wanted to ask you about. I think it's interesting that they did, that we hear that. He almost raped me. He's dead. He's outside. Come out.

Right. But now I need you guys to deal with that. I need you guys as a show to do the ramifications of that. So I'm not saying they won't because I haven't seen past episode three. But what I fear is that sometimes in shows like this, we're willing to go there, but then we're not willing to explore what that means. I think you're so spot on, especially when you're dealing with Disney and Marvel and Star Wars. Marvel really has committed this crime a lot recently. They'll bring up a subject and they'll touch on it.

What's it like to be a black superhero in America? But then they won't really dive into the minutia and the nuance and the nuance and the, the different things that you experience as a black person in this country. They'll touch on it and generally say, oh, God, that's a bad thing. But they won't really dive into it. I can assure you that this stuff with Bix carries over throughout the whole season. It is a story. So then I have a feeling I'm going to like the show a lot.

You know, I just, I was nervous that we're presenting these huge concepts and these scary things that are very real for a lot of people. Yes. and have ramifications. Personal ramifications, worldly ramifications. So I just want to see that. And again, Christian told me, I know you didn't, you liked, but didn't love the first season.

I have a feeling the first three episodes are going to be a continuation of that for you. And then after that point, it's going to pick up. Right, right. And so I was like, okay, let me go in with that mindset. And he also told me there was going to be a lot of talking. And John, oh, my God, there's so much. Talking. Yes, it is a talking show. We'd be around the table talking all the time. I'm like, okay, let me put out my notepad. What are we talking about today? I got to take notes from Google.

I don't know what planet you're talking about. I don't know what people you're talking about. I don't know. Okay, okay. So much talking. I wish they showed me a little more sometimes, which that's fair. That's totally fair. I really need the show, which I don't. I really, I enjoy it. It's just overhyped for me. I think you're offering honest criticism, which I appreciate because I've seen, you know, over the last few weeks, people chime me in going like, why is everybody fawning over everything? And it's like, no, I'd rather have a fun back and forth about it where both points of views are heard and consumed rather than just dismissed. And I think that's important. So I totally respect where you're coming from.

And in no way am I trying to make you like the show. I love the fact that you've got your own opinion on it. It's very reason to. I like it. Yeah. Yeah, and you want to see. And the next three episodes are the longest three episodes of the season. Each of them are almost an hour each.

And the other ones are more balanced with like one being long, one being almost an hour. The other two being like 45, 46 minutes. So that's how it's going. But like the next three are the really long episodes. And it's laying the foundation of everything they just kind of touched on. We're going to see it more in motion. And I'll be curious to see what you feel after the next three, as Kristen said, these might be more the ones that you're into.

And then it leads to the third three episode block, which is really the, that is the emotional, emotionally poignant section of these 12 episodes that I think. I'm real curious to hear what you think. Yeah. I'm really looking forward to that. You and I share a very close mutual friend who I think you're specifically referencing right now. As Christian lovingly says, Jeff Schneider, who I read. It has to be just him.

There's other people doing it too. So yeah, yeah. He has an amazing newsletter to Insnyder, but he did an entire thing last night about how everybody is just so positive about all of these different properties. And I have to say, like, I know what he's talking about. And I'm a pretty positive person in general, especially as an artist, I think that it's so easy to knock something. But it takes so much to create something. It's so difficult that I am a positive person. But in general for me, as you guys know at home or maybe you don't, I'm not a critic first.

So when I go see something that I don't like or if I'm at home, I'm watching a show that I don't like, do you know what I do? What's that? I never talk about it again. I don't like it. If I don't like it, here's what I do. You'll know I didn't like it because I just don't speak about it. If I tell you I'm going to a movie screening or a premiere or if I'm watching a show and you don't hear me talk about it, that means I didn't like it. it because I just am not somebody who wants to waste my time talking about things I don't like.

Something like and or I do like. So I like to talk about it because I even talking to you, John, it makes me like it more hearing like, it's like, okay, this is what's for you in the future. This might be something that you're interested in. Here's what to look forward to. I do like it. And it makes me look forward to it. So if I don't like something, you just never hear it from my mouth. Like I just never mention it. Well, well, I have some. seeing a couple on the real rejects when you've done out of theater reactions and you do struggle to not be negative about a thing and you almost seem like I hate to say this but it's the truth so a couple of times yet but I know for the most yeah you don't go out of your way to create a video to like

on a project that you don't like or whatever that's true I will and I'm honest I'll be honest you know yeah yeah exactly but I just I try not to focus on the things that I really don't like So, because also it puts me in a bad headspace. You're always talking about things you hate. What a horrible life to live. I just don't want to. I have disagreed. I don't disagree with you.

It's why, like, as I've gotten older as a critic and as a pundit or a reviewer or whatever you want to call it, it's if I, I've becoming more selective of the things I watch because of my time and because of I don't want to go see a terrible movie for two hours. I don't want to have to crap on it. I would like, if I have three or four friends who've gone to see it ahead of me and they tell me how bad it's going to be, I'll just wait sometimes. And it depends on the movie. Sometimes I'll just go. But other times I'll just kind of wait and catch it on video, watch it.

Then they'll be like, yeah, they were right. I'm not going to talk about it anymore. So I hear what you know, I try to keep away from that kind of stuff. Totally. You know what's frustrating though. And I know you can relate to this and Christian loves when I do this. But I just gave a we've been live 17 minutes. for 14 of them I've been talking about how I like Andor, but I'm not in love with it.

Yes. And I'm done with my 15 minute discussion on it. Okay. I'm surprised Roxy doesn't like Andor in the chat. And it's like, I can't get anyone to listen to my words. Well, it's, it's Mike Joyce. And Mike at times, I know, but it's not just him. And I call out Mike all the time, even though I love Mike, but he'd be doing annoying stuff all the time.

But I can't get any, it happens to me all the time where I'll spend, it's not just a tweet. John, you asked me back and forth questions. We discussed it. We talked, I said the things I liked about it, the things I'm concerned about. But I said multiple times, I like this show. And then somehow the takeaway is, I can't believe Roxy doesn't like Andor. And it's just like, I don't know how to, I don't know how to get anybody to care that my words are my words and my actual feelings. And same with you, I'm sure, John.

Yeah, at times, yes. It's a losing battle with certain people. Other people do listen to us and are very clear about it, but then some other people, and even Mike just said, I was half listening. Well, then don't fully comment. Half listening. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, exactly. And don't full comment, full send, full delete. Like, come on. And someone tried to compare you to one of those notable Star Wars, YouTube pundits, who's just negative about everything. And Roxy's not saying that because I heard their comments and their comments are very clearly from a certain self-serving point of view. And so there's not what's happening here. This is much more of a nuanced conversation about these episodes.

I've never been accused of being negative about everything. That's interesting. Hmm. You know, it's ridiculous stuff. All right. Anything more to say on this? And I'm sorry for some of you who maybe thought, you know, we're going to talk about it. And, you know, we were going to get into it.

So I hope you guys have a good idea of what both of us feel about and or. and what's coming here because there is nine more episodes it'll be done in three weeks which i think is really what do you think about that rocks i haven't gotten you two cents on that you know you're a person as you said you watch 200 episodes or 200 television shows a year which is incredible but what do you think about 200 would be crazy but yeah 120 what do you think about the release plan here that they released all 12 of these within a four week time frame it isn't really binging but it's also chunks at a time. And it isn't separated into chunks here and then wait a few weeks and the next chunk.

It's very much like one right after the other. So what do you think about that? My favorite model, and for a long time, this goes back to our Collider days. My favorite model for streaming television has always been three episodes in the first week and then one every week. I think it's enough to get you into a show and then keeps you coming back week by week. Now, of course, there are exceptions to that. depending on what that show is.

Right. And how long those episodes are. But just in general, that's my favorite. Three episodes every week for only four weeks when this is their big property of the year. Felt like a really weird call. But when they said it was a year between every chunk, it made it make a little more sense. Right. And I understand why we got those first three last night because I honestly thought the first two were very lackluster.

and then the third one really picks up. So I was like, okay, I get why we got three here. But I wish that this was lasting longer. I wish that I didn't have to watch three hours last night in order to talk to you about this today. I wish I could watch one, have it sink in, do my Googling, put the pieces together, ask you questions about it in between weeks,

and then be like, okay, I'm ready. It's a lot for a casual fan. It is. To do three hours of this. But I haven't seen the whole thing like you have, so I can't say that it doesn't make sense because I'm not there yet. After watching all 12, do you feel like it was the right release strategy? No.

I actually don't. And I know that they're doing this, I think, to make it qualify for the Emmys possibly, which I think it should be in consideration for it after having seen the whole season. But that being said, I don't think so because I think there are some pretty strong episodes coming. that it would be nice to have a whole week of discourse about just that episode. But the fact you've got to rope in the other two episodes when talking about one of the episodes, I think is where it's going to be a bit detrimental. We're still going to get the think pieces and the comments and the videos and whatever.

But I think you're losing out on the momentum that you could generate. And certainly Star Wars needs a lot of positive momentum right now. Celebration was one of the most tamest things I've ever seen in my life. no boldness coming out of that, which is really rare for Star Wars. I didn't even know it happened until it was in the middle of it. Yeah, a lot of people sent that too. And so you want to generate like 12 weeks of buzz, or at least as you said, the first three episodes then like nine weeks of buzz around this property.

But unfortunately, it's going to be over in three weeks. And I think people will talk about it, be into it. And then in a month it'll be gone. Like people will, oh, yeah, remember when Andor came out? you know, because we're going to be moving into the summer movie season, into the thick of the summer movie season in just three weeks. So, yeah, unfortunately, that's the situation. What would have been your ideal, one a week or a chunk and then one?

Or what do you think? Well, I think what you said? The first three to get to get you to understand, we are going to pick up right where we left off. We are staying, well, I mean, a year later, but the energy and the attention to detail and the direction and the point of view, we're going to keep that for the first three episodes. so you know you're in good hands if you like those three episodes. And then one episode a week so that you can really sink in and watch it multiple times.

Because, I mean, the idea of watching one episode multiple times over a seven day period, that's doable. The idea of watching three episodes multiple times to kind of really consume what you're watching and catch all the stuff that's going on, I think that's a lot to ask of viewers, myself personally. What is your plan now that you've seen all of them? What are you, are you going to rewatch some of them or what is your intention? I've already written down three episodes that I'm going to rewatch multiple times before I review them with the geek buddies and with the Jedi Way crew. So I know which ones I'm going to rewatch already. If there's time on a Sunday, now that we're not in football season, I might sit and

rewatch those other two that are part of the block. But in each block, there is one episode that I want to rewatch more than once because I think that's the crux of each of those blocks. You know, and I think the third episode would have been the one to rewatch here for me. So, yeah. I would love to rewatch the third episode of this. Yeah, yeah. But man, I just felt exhaust after watching all three.

I was like, oh, you can't. Let me just a little stretching in. Like, I can't believe you did 12 in one day. That would have put me in the ground. I've never done it. I've never done 12 in one day, rocks. Never. Why did you do that?

Were they going to go away? No, because, yeah, I was going to go away at 6 p.m. pt last night okay listen i had it for two weeks but i've been working on so many things and to be honest with you for me and or is a very special show a latino lead the the conversation about uh fighting back against a fascist dictatorship the allusions to immigration the allusions to these smaller countries that get taken over by bigger countries sometimes in the history of latin american countries like there's a lot for me when i went into andor that touched me right and so i kind of sat and i was like like waiting for the right time waiting for that i could not get in the mood and then the night before

i think what's today when so monday night i was like all right you're going to get up at seven or eight am you're going to confront this and you're going to watch the whole thing and so there wasn't a sense of like well i'm forcing myself it was more a matter if i like it because i saw some of the reactions that were really positive i will keep watching it and if not then i'll just you know watch it with everybody else when the three episode blocks drops i don't really lose anything but i could i couldn't stop consuming it i was so just loving the characters and the storylines and where they were going and what they were showing and there was a lot there's a lot of shocking moments in the next nine episodes that i was just oh my god my uh my girlfriend was in the middle of a zoom when i yelled out from one moment and she

texted me she goes i am in the middle of the zoom with my supervisor it's like i'm sorry honey i'm sorry i'm sorry Sorry, sorry. So yeah, so there are some really interesting stuff. When you say I'm going to tackle this, I'm going to confront this. So were you looking at this like a chore or just like right now with the state of the world and my personal life or whatever, this is too hard to watch? Yeah, I was worried about how much of it would affect me. As I'm not, you guys know, for those of you follow me, you know, I'm not the regular viewer. There's a lot of, I am a politically savvy person. It is very, affects my life every day, every day. And so for me, I knew. what they were going to be tackling in this season from having seen interviews and things of that nature. So I was like kind of, what can I say is? I was kind of strengthening myself up to watch it because of, you know, how I have been taking some of the stuff that's been going on in our real worlds. And they, and I will be honest with you, there's a lot of blurring of the lines when you watch this season of and or between what's going on and what, I mean, at times it's prescient with for a show that was shot two years ago. So to me, it was shocking some of the stuff. that we see and especially that scene where you see the two guys in that third episode going,

okay, here's what we're going to do about Gorman. We're going to fabricate that they're terrorists and they're harboring terrorists and we're going to name them all terrorists and we're going to fabricate this whole narrative and people are going to believe it. They're going to buy it hook, line and sinker because what we really, what we really want is this. And just seeing that, my mind was like, what? So, you know, it just was that kind of stuff.

Gotcha. Very blurring of the lines between the real world and the fantasy world that they've got there in Star Wars. So yeah, I just had to kind of get myself in the right. mind space and I was for the I was watching the whole thing I was never bored I was never like oh my God I was more just except after one episode I had to take a walk for like 20 minutes outside after one of the episodes to really kind of calm down before I came back to finish out the rest of the season but other than yeah completely um anyway all right we've talked about indoor for almost 30 minutes we should go to our first commercial break here from the stitch fix and afterwards uh we're going to talk some more TV with the queen of TV there rox try her right after this. All right, let's talk about Stitch Fix.

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a great place to go and get some great clothes and get somebody who understands your body type and get you some good stuff there for your life. Anyway, Roxanne, let's get back to these. We've got to get into the TV stuff. The new trailer for Wednesday dropped here. I don't know if you got a chance

to see it. I'm going to bring this up here as for us to discuss and I'm going to read this article just like Christian does. Are you going to stumble all the words? No, no. I'm not like Christian does. No, no. I'm very well spoken. That was my jab at you, Christian, to see if you're actually watching the show.

Some people said he's pissed in the chat, but I know, but the thing is he's not because he doesn't like when this becomes a political show. We didn't speak about anything political. You said in your personal life, you were gearing up to watch a show. I asked you why. Christian would have been, had nothing bad to say about that conversation. I think he's probably stoked with us that we're here doing his show while he is off gallivanting. Yeah, probably, yeah, sitting in the.

in the lawn chair outside yeah it's house with the my ties anyway netflix has premiered the first trailer for the oh wait am i are we both on the screen okay good yes netflix has premiered the first teaser trailer for the high anticipated the second second season of its smash hit dark comedy horror series wednesday in addition they've announced the air dates for the new run with part one coming on august sixth and part two coming on september 3rd as we discussed release dates it's expected the new season will again be eight episodes but it's not clear how many will be in each part John Ortega returns as Wednesday Adams and is joined by four returnees who've been upgraded to regulars for the new season. Oh, shout out to their bank accounts.

Luis Guzman and Catherine Zeta Jones and their parents, Gomez and Morticia. Isaac Cardonias is Pugsley and Luyanda, Unate Luis Nayamo. I hope said that right, is Richie Santiago. Also back our various classmates from Emma Myers to Hunter Duhan. Also joining the cast for the new runner, Steve Buscemi, who will, from what I understand, become the new principal replacing Gwendolyn Christie, Billy Piper. at taylor evy templeton joanna lumley for you ab fab fans tandy newton uh francis o'connor haley joel osment uh which we we hope he's getting some help after that uh traffic stop heather moderato christopher lloyd and lady gaga lady gaga of course the new season will be darker more daring

and have more of a horror tone damn it you got me all then the first is too nice The romance angle, Alfredoff and Miles Millar are the writers and showrunners with Jim Burton, executive producing the first season remains Netflix Most Watch English Language series, along with scoring four Emmy wins from 12 nominations. All right, Roxy. No, Netflix is the most watched English language show? Series, yeah, yeah. Pretty surprising.

Not only is that surprising, but so the first part of this second season doesn't drop until August and then the second part September for a TV show. dropping this teaser in April shows that they're like this is one of their biggest of the year. That's quite a bit of headway. So I really like Wednesday. I had so much fun with it.

Again, at the time, I was with doing World Girls with Darina and we really felt like Wednesday in Enid. Is that her friend? I'm so Enid. Like Enid and I are like this. I mean, are we have the same. same personalities at the time. I'm obsessed with her. So she, we loved it. And I loved the show in general. And I'm really looking forward to this. I am surprised that this is the number one

watched English language series for them. That's, I mean, that is unbelievable. You would think stranger things. Yeah, you would think stranger things. But, you know, apparently the way, especially because both of them are kind of darker in tone, although there's a bit more comedy in Wednesday than there is necessarily in stranger things. But I mean, they would appeal to the same age bracket and age demographic you would argue with it. But apparently

this is the one that is the top English language. I imagine Squid Game is the top overall, of any language possibly on Netflix. But yeah, this is for English language. That's huge. I don't think if you had just asked me top of my head, what are the top five Netflix shows?

I don't know that Wednesday would have come to mind because I I really did love it, but it just, it's not top of mind for me. And so I think it's smart that they're releasing this now to get us excited. I think it's also smart that they're going to do that two-part drop. So that's not just all at once. Yeah. We're August and September.

This is exciting. Jan Ortega rules. That's how you know. That's great. You watch a show? I did. I watched it. Months later, after it had already aired, I almost did reaction videos to them, but I thought it was way too, way past the time.

But I watched it. That took me about three days to finish the series because I'm not really, it's target demographic, but I enjoy the, I grew up with the Adams family, you know, the black and white versions and then the the movies with Raoul, Julia and Angelica Houston that were so great. It was nice to see Christina Ritchie back. And I like Wendell and Krista. Yeah, and Jenna Ortega is just, she's awesome how she's blowing up. And so I think you're so talented, just watching her. I love to watch her. Yeah, right.

But people talk about Florence Pew, but like, I hope at some point, Jenna makes that jump to be just as big on the theatrical side of things because she is so gifted at such a young age with her abilities. What's the comparison to Florence Pew? Well, Florence Pew came in and like immediately as a young actress, people were trumpeting her as an incredibly layered complex, nuanced actress who can really deliver these fantastic performances in multiple types of genres of shows and movies, like what little drummer girl and then what she did on the screen with Lady Macbeth and these,

oh, sorry, I forget what it was called, but like these other films that are throughout that she was a part of. And so this mixture of people are like she's so incredibly talented, like at such a young age, with little women. And I think Jenna needs to be in that mix, but she needs that like big theatrical feature. I think that's going to get people to see how good she really is across the board. Because this is the series. How old is Jenna? Oh, good question.

How old is Jenna? Because Florence is almost 30. I think of Jenna as I think because Jenna, I think the first time I saw her was in you. It might not. But when she was on you, I remember watching her when she looked about 14. So I think of Jenna as so young. I don't think of her in Florence in the same age group. Are they in the same age group?

They're both in their 20s. So, yeah, I mean, Florence Pugh is 29. Jenna is 22 right now. Okay, okay. So she's got time. I mean, in the next seven years, do I see Jenna Ortega being as big as Florence Pugh is now? Yeah, yeah, I do. Yeah.

I really think she could, you know, but in your 20s, that seven age gap, your gap, it's kind of, it's meaningful in your career. So, yeah, especially because of the, like, conversations. that Jenna's had where, you know, Christian all the time is harping on how she said some things that he doesn't think are super smart, but now she's gotten better with her PR. Like, do you remember when she came out and said she had COVID when filming Wednesday? And, oh, yes, yes, that was a bit of And it was like, why do you say that? So I think she's done some foot and mouth things that it's like, you're young. So of course you're going to say things that are not the best thing to say. So I think

she'll get better at that. But I think that's the comparison. These two, and this is happening more and more Roxanne. I'm sure you monitor this or catch this as well. Like a lot of young actors coming into the business, they don't come in with that wide-eyed thing anymore like before. Like they're coming in and they're like, I'm producing my own stuff. I'm executive producing my series, my shows. I mean, Diego is executive producer on and or like you're seeing Margo Robbie's, you know, started her own production company and to build her. So you're seeing more and more, Florence Pugh is the same thing. Like she is a producer or an EP on just about everything she's involved in now. And she hasn't even got out of her 20s yet.

And I think that's what you're seeing. And I think Jenna does the same thing. Jenna came in very clear about what she wants to do and who she wants to be and how to control her brand and the work she wants to see coming out of her brand. And like the way she, the other thing she said they got her in trouble is that she rewrote some of the scripts for Wednesday. I remember that. A lot of people who represent the WGA were coming out and giving her crap for saying that

because people have a thing within the creative community of actors claiming to write stuff. And they feel it denigrates writers. So, you know, you saw all of that as well. But as you said, she's only 22. We've all said stupid, stupid stuff. Oh, my God. I said the dumbest stuff at that age. Like, so I would be mortified if people were like, this is, you know, I thought I was the bees' knees.

Like I said such stupid stuff. So I give her a lot of credit. It's a lot of power really early on. To your point, though, John, do you think that that's a good thing or a possible future bad thing? The fact that people are coming in younger and having more ownership over their careers and more power early on. I think it's a good thing. I'm always in favor of players or actors or people who are in service of a larger corporation, being in charge of themselves, being self-possessed, being believing in themselves and knowing their worth when they walk through the door.

because corporations will dismiss you and toss you out at a moment's notice. Team owners will drop you from their squad. The second they can, you get injured or whatever. So if you can control your ascension, I think it's actually really important. It doesn't mean you're not going to make mistakes. It doesn't mean you won't. Maybe, as you said, being young, saying dumb things that might affect your brand. But look, you said it, so you own it.

And I think there's something about that that I like that actors are coming in with much more control. of their own products so that projects rather so they don't get abused by producers or directors or studio heads and executives which we've heard numerous stories of for decades you know and so i kind of like it not everyone's doing it but the ones that are i think are it's good and it's usually the really talented ones roxy it's usually people see that are really talented from the beginning they're given this kind of rope to do what they want to do you know yeah absolutely i hear you i think that it is very challenging. And this is whether you have the power or not,

when you are young coming into the industry to figure out a way to somehow know how grateful you should be for the opportunity. Right. Yes. You know, I think that it's challenging when you are so young. If I was successful when I was starting when I was 14, I don't think I would want it as bad as I want it now. I don't think I would work as hard as I work now.

I don't think I would be as on point every single time I walk into a room as I am now because it feels less earned. And so if you pair that with power early on too, it does make me a little bit nervous that you think that like you have all of the cards and I know at that age I wouldn't have been able to in my teens and in my early 20s. If you were like, oh, yeah, you've got it all and you've got the power and you have full control, I think it would have been a mess for me. Yeah, I mean, put on them if it's better for them.

But it also comes with great power comes great responsibility. Hey, I think I heard that somewhere. But I also think people, I also think kids are growing up at younger ages nowadays, right? With the access to everything they have, they're maturing. I don't mean maturing in that they're able to do whatever. But they're being more aware of the world. And so the ones that are born with this kind of intelligence and perspective that you need to succeed in the business of Hollywood, it's great to see that there are avenues for them to be able to achieve that success in that way and to control them their brand from the beginning.

By the way, one remind you all, we're at only 17 super chats. We're trying to be Roxy from yesterday to 85, beat herself, so to speak. speak at 85. So like, come on, people, we've been giving you some great comments and commentary over the last 40 minutes. Send in your super chats. Help us beat 85 here before we go into tomorrow and Friday because you know those superhero boys. They love to think they're the knees and wins. So let's get the victory on this side. The, I never are repaired together. So we definitely send them in. But also so you guys know, I think you guys know the behind the scenes of how this works is that Christian gives whoever wins that week a bonus. So it is only good for me to beat

myself from yesterday because then not only do I get it, but then John gets it. So that's how it works, guys. Come on. Show up to show out. Come on. Disney Plus isn't cheap, y'all watching these shows. Come on. Disney Plus, do you have Netflix? I have Netflix. Yes. I spend $26 a month on Netflix. Yeah. Yeah. I have. mall. I have Max. I have Peacock. I have Hulu and I have the most expensive, right? The most expensive. Yes. Yes. Although Max, Max, give it a run for its money because it's like max is $200 now for a year. And you break that up into, it's still not as much as Netflix, but it's a pretty penny, you know, it's a 15 bucks. So yeah. Yeah, but there's the under 20s and then there's the

over 20. Yeah, right. That's, I mean, that's a lot of money. That's true. That's a lot of money. Well, let's keep it going because we've got to hit some more stories for the world and TV, Roxy. Let's hit some last of us stuff here. You know these, now this is spoilers. Spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers. Some of you were alluding to spoilers with our and or discussion. So spoilers, spoilers, spoilers here. But the last of us, season two, the episode two reactions are continuing here.

For those who played the game, they knew it was coming. However, it seems a lot of people who managed to avoid five years of spoilers. That would be me. were taken by surprise on Sunday. Pedro Pascal's Joel met his death on screen in the second episode, the second season of The Last of Us. As a result, there's been widespread reaction to the event of the show, still trending heavily on social media over 48 hours after the episode aired.

Reactions will be familiar to those who are around for the second games leaks and release. Though interestingly, there has been visibly less outright hostility in the inevitable blowback, reaction, more of a shock, surprise, as well as anger. This is especially true in the case of aviose. with many responses taken pains to point out their hatred towards the character and not the actress Caitlin Deaver who has been getting praise for a performance in those scenes that likely comes as a welcome relief for the producers and Deaver after the game's Abby performer of the voice of her performer Laura Bailey received utterly inexcusable death threats targeting her and her newborn son back

when the game spoilers leaked in 2020 meanwhile a series co-creator and showrunner Craig Mason says despite Joel's death there's still a lot more of him to come in the next few episodes appearing in an episode of The Last of Us podcast, Mason says, but I will say, and I'll be intentional about this, that we do know that for the viewer, there are some mysteries here. There are some gaps about Ellie and Joel's relationship, and I don't think it's a spoiler based on the fact that there is a trailer out there

with lots of shots in it. This is not the last time we will see Joel. And then the article goes on to talk about all the different ways that we're going to see Joel in the show. I don't need to go into that. So, Roxy, your thoughts, A, did you watch this episode? What was your reaction? And B, imagine if I didn't, not just told me a,

Well, you got to run down ahead of time, so I'd be like, well. Imagine. What? Also, just like constantly have no notes for society. Excellent work, sending death threats to the voice actress. Excellent work. Excellent work. No, no.

It's just so good. You must feel so good about yourself. Like, you know who I'm going to get? Like, also, you're sending to the wrong person. She had no ability to say, whatever. Anyway, on this, what are you, what are you going to talk about, John? What you want to talk about? What was your, did you know this was coming?

No, it had no idea. What was your reaction? Were you in pieces? Did you stop your viewing? What happened? What was your reaction? The most fortunate and unfortunate thing about me now, I love being on real rejects. Love it.

Yeah. I'm covering this for them. Oh, nice. And the most fortunate thing is that we can always, look back and see how I reacted. The most unfortunate thing is that we can always look back and see how I reacted. And let me tell you who was in denial. Oh.

My face doesn't move the entire time. And I'm sitting there and I just say, no, he's fine. Which part did you say is fine? The whole way through, including the body bag. Did you want it to see his head like kind of moving in the body bag? John sitting next to me hysterically crying. And I was like, oh wow.

No, I mean, maybe he's not the one in the back. I don't know. Like anything, everything that I said, I like, well, no, because he moved his finger. No, he fluttered his eye. No, because through the throat, maybe he won't be able to speak anymore, but he's definitely alive. Like, the way that I justified what was happening, because I had no idea. And as a TV watcher, on a second episode, that's not what you do.

So I was like, I also John went back and you guys, if you watched the show yesterday, you know this. As a TV watcher, I am very, very adjusted to the format of television. And so when you have an apocalypse show, this is why it's so smart, they didn't do this in the game, but they did do this in the TV show because they knew people like me, when you have an apocalypse show and you take everybody who needs to survive and you put them outside the walls. So we have Joel, Ellie, Jesse, Abby, and Dina all outside the wall. Yeah. Immediately I know inside the wall they're getting torched.

Right. Everybody we need to live is outside. So I think Tommy's a goner. I think Maria's a goner. And I'm dealing with that. You're like Seth can go. You're like Seth can go for his comments the night before. But listen, assess apology.

That I shouldn't have said it. I shouldn't have even thought it. Good apology. It's good apology. I shouldn't even thought it is the key part there. So I'll take in life, we get so few apologies. When I get an apology, I usually say, thank you. I'll take it.

Yes, exactly. It's so rare. So I'll give that to Seth. But anyway, as a TV viewer, I'm sitting here already trying to make peace with the loss of Maria, which didn't end up happening. You were missing. Oh, I'm thinking, okay, that sucks, but I can deal with it. So when we get to the Joel stuff, I'm beyond willing. I'm so not willing to accept what was happening.

I just made up a whole different story in my head like a lunatic. I was like, now, through the neck, I was like, yeah, well, you know, it's going to be a hard recovery. That's a tough recovery, but we'll do it together. Body bag. I was like, could he breathe in that pick of fabric? Was it it? I mean, just truly delusional. That was my response.

Yeah. What was your response and what did you know going into this? I sensed it was coming. I sensed it was coming because I didn't know. I didn't know. But I know that people had kept saying to me, just you wait until the second season. There's something really shocking that happens.

And, you know, when you've watched enough TV shows and I've watched, what, almost four plus decades of TV shows. you know what that means when they talk about a shocking moment. So what is it mean to means? I hadn't heard that. I had heard nothing about a shocking moment. No one said that to me. All our reviews for last season when we did them on the geek buddies,

people were just like, just you wait till season two, just you wait. And it was like, okay, okay. So I had a feeling. Did I know it was going to happen this early in the season?

Hell no. Hell no. But the second Abby says to him when he wants to go back to Jackson Hole, we're only a minute away from my house. We can just go right up here. I was like, oh, man, this is happening. This is, are they doing it this early in the season? And when she shot him in the leg and then pulled out the golf club,

oh, man, I just was heartbroken. Because I love Pedro so much. And I love to see him in these shows so much that, and the brutality with which they did it and then cutting to her using her fists to do it. And it's going to be really interesting because you know, Roxy is an avid TV watcher. you know that they will present a character that seems pretty evil initially, and then you spend more time with him,

you get more of the backstory. I think that's the difference between the HBO version and the video game version. You didn't know until way later in the video game why she killed Joel. And apparently that's what caused people to get really, really angry. Not that they should have done any of those death threats. But in this way, they presented her as the daughter of the doctor, so that's her reasoning. but the way she carried out the death, I think, has been a subject of debate because a lot of people say, well, Joel did a lot of stuff.

He alluded to doing terrible stuff last season, and he did indiscriminately kill all those fireflies. And with the way she carried out the death here, she was torturing him. And so it's almost more psychopathic. You could argue, which is the more psychopathic, killing with indifference, or killing and relishing it and taking her time with one particular person. And so I like that that debate has sparked out of this because both sides have validity. So it's just a matter of where you fall on it, you know. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. In the chat, Sam, let me know if I'm using the wrong pronouns for somebody.

I don't know who uses different pronouns. Bella Ramsey, she's a they, them. Oh. Sorry, there are they then. But we-Hellarmsi's pronouns are they them? I didn't know. We have any reference, Bella. You know, we were in anything else.

Yeah, but I didn't know. Thank you for letting me know. So, yeah, just on this, I think that another thing that was interesting that I hadn't heard until recently was, Caitlin, you said Dever. I've been saying Devere. Is that wrong? I don't. I've heard Dever, but if it's Deber, it's Devere. You would know more than me is more than that.

No, I wouldn't. I just made it up. So, no, I always said Caitlin Devere, but maybe it's Dever. But Caitlin lost, I believe her mom three days before shooting this. Yes. Well, no, it was the funeral was three days before shooting this. She had lost her mom two or three weeks before shooting this, but the funeral was three days before this. So I didn't know that also. And then looking back and the first thing that she shot was the scene with Joel, the horrific scene. And so imagine like the anger that you're feeling in life and whatever it was. I just think that she did such an unbelievable job. And like you were speaking about. that we already knew that this was because she had had a parent killed in this game, you know, that she's already explained that.

Fuel to that, she just absolutely nailed this performance. I thought that she was so phenomenal. I did see her getting some hate on her Instagram. Pedro immediately posted a picture of the two of them, I think, to try to mitigate some of that. But props to her, and I think that speaking of young actresses who are going to take off, Obviously, she's already very big, but I think that this is, she, she was so, so good here. Yeah. And Bella's always great.

So just everybody, the performance are spot on. I'm obsessed with Jesse. He's a good looking dude. I just need to let you know, I'm obsessed with his demeanor, too. Like everything about him. Like him ballbusting her about the kiss at the beginning of the episode. Yes. I love Jesse. It's a great edition.

Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I thought, yeah, they all did agree with. And you're right to bring up what Caitlin had gone through just before she shot this. And Craig Mason and Druckman both said to her, because they had scheduled it to shoot right after her mother had died. But they said to her, we will shoot all around you. We'll do second unit. We'll do all of this. You tell us what day you're ready to shoot.

shoot and we will shoot the scene so they were very caring because they were like look this is a show but that's real life and so we will work around you and i don't think you know i'm so happy to see productions that respect their talent as much as they respect themselves and so it was great to see that for her and you're right there when i read that quote it put her performance in a whole another context or wouldn't we watch the scene and you're like man there's a blurring of the lines here you can for how she's reacting to things that I think was really essential to the scene, you know. Yeah, phenomenal. What's your feeling?

Do you think they left her alive and Dina alive as witnesses because they were honoring their code of not killing unarmed people, even though they did kill Joel? Do you think, or do you think they don't think she is a threat to them or Dina is a threat to them? When Abby says we don't kill unarmed people, I set out. out loud, oh, you're going to give him a gun. You're going to give him a fair chance. You're going to give him a fair chance. So just so you know my headspace, I said, oh, she's going to give him a gun.

It was so wrong every step of the way. I think that Abby herself probably at that point would have killed them all because we saw that she was just so much further along in this in this spite and vengeance. during and that everybody around her was like, you're pushing it too far, you're pushing too far. But I think Abby knew if she did that, that she would be ostracized by the rest of her community. That's an excellent point, because we did see throughout the episode

how her compatriots were really uncomfortable with this, how they were going to lie to her. So they didn't, so they wouldn't attack Jackson because they would have all died, absolutely. Considering how they fought off that hoard, five people showing up wouldn't have been anything. to them. Right. And so yeah, it's a great point. And then when she unleashes and tells that one girl to keep it down, to shut the fuck up is what she says. And then says, I'll kill her. And like, yeah, I agree with you.

Abby was alone. She probably would have killed Joel, killed Dina. And then when Ellie showed up, we had a battle between them. And so that would have been interesting. Yeah. I'm going to be curious to see where the show goes with this. Because, you know, she held on to that trauma for five years. years. And she killed him. And he would have held on to it for 45 years. Exactly. How will however long it talk. And she killed him with the vigor that she would have killed him as if it had been the next day. Right. And so that's going to be interesting because now she has passed. Joel passed on the loss of her daughter onto Abby. And now Abby has passed on the loss of her dad to Ellie because Ellie witnessed the death of her own pseudo father. So will this be just

constant passing on of trauma, will this be a revenge thing? Or will we have these two kind of come together and have a bit of an understanding of the whole situation? Because we're going to get more scenes with Joel throughout the season in Flashback. And you're talking specifically about Ellie, which I think is the person who's affected the most, but not to forget that Dina was very close with Joel and also while was in the room. And then not also to forget the fact that Tommy is as we need it out of his situation. So what is his, and Jesse is one of the dragger backs of Joel. So there's a lot of people invested in this situation.

I heard in the games that it's not Dina that's there, but it's Tommy that's there. Yeah, Tommy's there. So I am curious about what this will mean for Tommy's future journey too. Is he going to be as vengeful as, as Ellie is? or is he going to have to take the Joel position with Ellie and try to protect her? Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel like Dina's going to slide into that role, which is why I think they did a great job of introducing her last episode. And Isabella Merced is doing great work with Dina. And I think that's going to be the, but the Tommy thing is interesting. Because remember in the last season, they made a point of stressing how Tommy was a bit of a mess up

when he was younger and that being with Maria, getting a child, stabilized his life. So now that Joel has come back into his life and been taken out of his life, you know, a year later after he's come back to Jackson Hole, what is the reaction? Did you guys lose John or did I, or did you guys lose me? Oh, can you hear me? I think it might be on my end because I thought that spinning wheel of death in my back. No, you're good. You're good. Yeah, yeah. So we'll see. A scary moment. So we'll see. We'll see. We'll see what happens.

with Tommy and where it goes with that pain. Yeah. Go ahead. We should hit one more story before we get to the super chat. So we're at 22. Come on, we'll get to that 80. What? 22.

You can barely drink at that age. I wonder how many we get from Jake. Is Jake going to send any? And he always says a generous donated with you, uh, Roxy. Is Jake going to send any super chats in? I want to see some. I don't know. He hasn't been on the, doing the show as much recently.

but let us know questions that only R&R can answer, guys. Yeah, come on. What do you do for R&R? Send it in the super chat. And you know, Roxy and I, the filters are always down. So whatever you want to ask us, we are going to give you some honest answers. Make Christian pissed at us. Ask us whatever questions you want.

Yeah, I like that. All right, let's want to some movie stuff here, Roxy, before we get to these questions. Thunderbolts, this is coming out, what, next week, I think. I think it is. But Thunderbolt's director explains why them, oh, no, that's not the one I wanted to bring up. Damn it. I did not get to go last night.

I'm supposed to go Monday, but we will see if the situation works out. I might drive up to L.A. to see it in Burbank at the IMAX. We will see. I haven't copped that invite yet. I want to see this so bad. Well, last night there were free screenings all over the country, including L.A. at the Grove.

they had a free screening. You just had to get the notice from Fandago and then apply, and they would have approved whoever got their first. Thank you for letting me know. I know. Following the film's premiere in London, reactions from Marvel Studios, Thunderbolts movie are in and it looks as though they might have a winner. This is the whole cast. I don't need to go through the whole cast, but it follows a group of Amsterdam anti-heroes forced to work together on a dangerous mission after being caught in deadly trap.

Reviewers aren't out for a while yet, and premiere reactions are inevitably more gushingly positive than actual reviews. That's very true. but the praise handed out here seems to mostly target the darker tone, the depth of these characters, along with plenty of praise for the actors with Florence Pugh, especially as well as Lewis Pullman, getting singled out. Here's one from Matt Neglia at Best Picture, my brother there. He says, in many ways different from other MCU films that have come before it, and that freshness couldn't have have arrived at a more opportune time.

It's some of Marvel's darkest material to date, dealing with the emotional wreckage of broken individuals, grappling with their past choices and finding camaraderie amidst the emptiness of their lives, Pugh carries much of the dramatic weight of the movie on her back. That seemed to be clear from the trailer. While Lewis Pullman delivers a complex performance as a sympathetic character at War with himself, Emily Murray over a total film,

well, Thunderboats is easily one of the best MCU movies in a long time, and maybe one of my personal faves, has so much spark, charisma, and tells a genuinely emotional story you can connect with. A tear was shed, Lawrence Pugh in particular, superb, just walks away with it. Randy Jones is a Den of Geek, finally a Marvel movie that treats mental health

and depression as a serious, matter and not like undercutting it for the sake of a quip a legit good character ensemble piece with a compelling Florence Pugh and Louis Pullman performance in the center yay i liked it uh so i find somebody else we know sean chanler here's been a guest on the show a couple weeks ago i really dug thunderbolts it's overtly about depression loneliness and purpose the whole point is they're reject characters two thirds mostly ground action and a third a horror influence nightmare Wow. It feels like the MCU is coming together and building towards something again. So, Roxy, you hear these reactions or you see these reactions.

What are your thoughts? It's excite you for the movie, dealing with mental health, dealing with depression and some darkness here. I'm really excited for this movie. I was really excited from the Super Bowl trailer for this movie. That got me amped on this. The reactions are stellar. It seems like people love this. The ones you read plus a bunch of our friends.

mutual friends who have seen it who are saying this is phenomenal phenomenal best of the years for the mc u so i am really really excited uh i guess being super excited always makes me a little nervous yeah right or is it going to live up to the hype yeah yeah yeah so i feel all the things right now and i really hope that i'm able to see this because if i don't be on that screen life i don't know that weekend i'm slammed so i'm like when am i going to see this movie uh how about you how are you feeling i like the reactions and uh we're getting reactions from people who weren't just at the premiere we're getting reaction to people who showed up at that those free screenings around the country and so you're getting a good mixture i think they've seen some people like um flickinger pointed out

like it starts out well the second half is and it gets a bit formulaic so i've seen some uh not so glowingly positive reviews but certainly positive reviews though just generally overall. So that gets me excited. And I sense from that last trailer that it was going to be an emotional journey for Florence Pew and that I think as someone who has struggled with mental health and mental health issues, the fact that they are putting this front and center in the movie. And that scene in the trailer where she says to him,

I've made so many mistakes. And Red Guardian looks at her and goes, when I look at you, I don't see those mistakes. I just see you as devastatingly beautiful. And so if that's the energy of the film, And smartly, Florence Pugh, as the best actress, in my opinion, of everybody in there, best actor period of anybody in there, she's the one carrying that narrative. Then I'm excited to see the film and what it's going to do.

So, yeah, I'm curious and excited at the same time. So we'll see. Going through the list of actors in this, it's interesting that you think that Florence Pugh, like you have a definitive who's the best actor of the Thunderbolts. Yes, I will say Florence Pugh. Who would be your second? Probably Sebastian Stan and then Harbor after him. And then I guess jail, but I guess you could argue,

but you know, I don't know if I could argue JLD. You know what I'm saying? Because I don't know. I could put her in third or fourth. You could make an argument about third or fourth. Because it becomes about lead and character actor, right? I mean, like Florence is a lead. JLD is a lead.

Harbor's not really a lead. And Stan has proved themselves. Do you mean in this movie or do you mean in life? I mean in overall in their projects, right? Harbor is rarely a lead. Although you would argue strange of things, but that's really the older kids and him. So it's more of a kind of a mix.

I think it's more Millie Bobby Brown who's the lead of Stranger Things in my opinion. But, you know, I defer to you if you think I'm wrong. But like this is how I kind of look at it, you know? And you're asking me on the fly to just. I know, I know. I know it's tough because then we'll have these conversations

and then somebody will hold this over your head for the I won't get to interview Wyatt Russell ever again. David Harbor does like some movie where he's the lead and then you're posted everywhere like Roka said he's not a lead. He's not a lead. But no, I just think it is cool

that you give Lawrence Pew that many flowers. I love Florence Pew as well. I think she's so unbelievably talented. It's just hard. It's hard to rank actors. I think they're all really good. There's nobody in this movie that I'm like, that's not a powerful actor.

I just haven't seen enough of Wyatt Russell yet to compare him. I've obviously seen him, but time will tell with him. And then JLD has like the legacy for me. I just, but yeah. But she pops up in some really great independent films. Like her, her, what was the one? Can you forgive me or whatever it was the one or you heard my feelings? It was so good.

You hurt my feelings. You hurt my feelings. Such a good. So good. or she was hysterical and new people. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's really, I think she's just excellent. She's excellent. I got to see that horror one where she's seeing her son or daughter is seeing that

red bird that is messing with her life. So dealing with the death of someone. So I got to see that. I think it's on Netflix or somewhere. But yeah. So yeah, well, you know, I host a show called the top 10. So ranking people is just like a natural thing for me. So, but I also get in trouble for it.

But anyway, let's move on before I get in too much trouble. All right. Let's get to the questions. I know, Roxy, you have a heart out. So we should jump into the questions. If there's time for more stories at the end, we'll hit those stories. But let's get into the super chat questions. First, let's get to Mad Sinister McCall.

It's my two-fay best on the Christian Harlov show. Oh, thank you. What is a song that pumps you up? For me, it's Mama Said Knock You Out or Call on Me, which is the intro of warfare. there. Roxy, do you have a song that pumps you up maybe for the gym or to get on with your life? Yeah. So always disco music pumps me up, Diana Ross on a summer.

But when I think of a song for the gym, I used to start every cardio day with Antio Up. Do you know? The MOP. Yeah. That's a great film. Come on. How could that not pump you up? That would get me going.

Like. Antio up. Yeah. Yeah. I hear what you say. Exactly. So it's so not, my music tastes all over the place, but that would be my, my gym pump-up song. What about you?

I think there's two of them. The first one is public service announcement from Jay-Z. I love that song. You know, my name is and all of that. I enjoy that song. And then Tom Sawyer from Rush. I mean, there's just something about that song. When it kicks in, I just lose my damn mind.

Are you big Rush, yeah? Are you a big rush? There's certain songs I like from Rush, but I don't go to see them in concert. I have a friend who is a massive Rush fan who's gone to see them many, many times. Yeah, if I ask that, I feel like people who are Rush fans are like die hard Rush fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I try to stay out of that. Let's see, Doug Developer, what's up, Doug?

Says, how much money would it take for you guys to ever play a large role in a film produced by the asylum or in a film directed by a hack like Ui Bowl? I don't know what the asylum is, so I can't answer that side. And I don't know who UiBull is. Oh, he's the one that fought Jeff in the boxing match. That's UiBow, that director that fought him in the boxing match in real life, Jeff Snyder. I don't even know what this story is. What? What?

You are friends with Jeff. You don't know this story? No. Oh, my God. Not only my friends, that's my homie, you know. What is this? Apparently he, there was very early in his career. I think he wrote some kind of review and went,

back and forth with Ui Boll about it. And then Ui said, well, let's meet in the ring. And have it out. And it is on YouTube somewhere. Jeff Snyder versus Uwee Bowl. What happened? We knocked him the F out. Yeah. So he, Mama said knock him out and he knocked him out.

So yeah, it was not a good win for Jeff. Oh, it was not a good night for Jeff Snyder. But it's very early in his career. And is the asylum a production company that he works with or something? I guess so. But Ui Boll is don't like, like, I don't think cabin the death whatever cabin house or whatever it is like they're not good movies i don't know i would never do it what about you you would never no amount of money

i'm good i'm good oh my god i am so not like that and unless jeff looked at me and was like i don't want you working with this person friendship over which then no amount of money but as long as jeff was cool with it you be very very i'm not going to say like the lowest but it's not that much. Listen, I am, I've got a Grammy to support. I got, I got bills to pay. I got mouths to feed. Nothing in this world for free.

So, yeah, we got to get that paycheck. Fair point. Yeah, he directed, UiBowell directed a house of the dead, blood rain. Yeah, some really, I don't know any of those. Some other pet in the name of the king. So yeah, anyway. So, all right, Reggie.

Brown says over under a cap cameo in Thunderbolts. Which cap? I heard there's two end credit sequences in Thunderbolts. So maybe cap. I would say, uh, yes. Old, old cap, I think. No.

Yeah. I agree with Rocky over. Yeah. I'm taking the, well, it depends on which cap. I'm taking it over and then I'm taking the under. Right.

Over on, on Anthony Mack. Yeah. under on Chris Evans. I agree. I agree. Goa passes support for Roxy and Roca. Thank you, Go, pal. Go, pal, rocks. He's the best. Also, go about Roca, do you think our commies should will into,

oh, oh, our commanders, don't call them. The commies? What is wrong with you? Not now. Should we'll take in the first round tomorrow night? Who do you think? I don't know. We need a good, we need a good offensive line to protect our second year quarterback. So that's what I was. Commies is a brutal. nickname. Yeah, I don't like that at all. I don't like that at all. It doesn't play.

Shane Marquale. Hey, Roxy. Maybe you and Andrew would like to react to Mile 22. It stars Mark Wahlberg and the lead actor from the raid, Ico Uas. We just did two years ago we did the raid. And then this week we did the raid two. So I think that's why he's saying that. Oh, I'll let you guys in on a little secret. I don't really pick what I react to. There is a whole mastermind web. And if I say I don't want to do something, they don't make me do it. But for the most part, Greg does an unbelievable job running his business. I can suggest things all I want, but he knows what performs, what doesn't, what combos work.

So honestly, in Greg, we trust. And if he thinks that that's a good idea, great. People are mad at me all the time. They're like, why did you not react to this thing? Why this thing? And I'm like, because I'm an employee. Yeah. I wasn't selected for the job.

Yeah, exactly. GoPow says, really looking forward to Andor tonight. Wait, what? Two work things have to go up, but trying to get done by five, so all the time to get through all three episodes. He just hasn't had time to watch it yet. Oh, okay.

All right, because it dropped last night, GoPow, just to let you know. Yeah, but you said two work things and stuff. You know, GoPow's busy. Busy, busy man. Not busy enough to send a super, send a super chance, which you appreciate it. I honestly don't even think we gave any and or spoiler.

because I don't think I would be able to because I don't be out here knowing any of the character names. Reggie Brown says the same way it's playing out to people that haven't played the game for or against what happened. It's playing out exactly the same way when we people played the game. That's the last of us reference. Yeah. I don't know that it is necessarily, though,

because like the article says, people aren't coming after Caitlin Dever for her, for her portrayal. I just think with that anger, like, how they rage fit the game. I think people are pissed about this, but they're still like curious. I think that's why they're doing damage control, right,

saying like, well, Joel's not, Joel's going to be in the season. We're still going to have Fedro Pascal. There's going to be flashbacks. He's going to open his eyes from the body bag and say, hello. Thank you for understanding, John. Literally me saying,

oh, she's going to give him a gun. that's the best. Are you dumb, bitch? Like, why would she give him? There's a real words that came in my mouth. If she gave him a gun, they'd all be dead within 10 seconds. Why would I ever think? I was like, oh, she's got.

Because you wanted to live. Anything, whatever it took. Mike Joyce is Ross and Rachel, Lestat and Louis, Sam, and Diane are Dedra and Cyril TV's next. great couple what should their couple name be that those are the two in and or the uh the young ones the domineering blonde woman uh who told the mother to get back in the place and the kind of simpering husband or going from um no i don't think that they're an next great couple i don't even think they're a decent couple so that was a joke right or what i think so okay i don't know what

their couple name would be i don't know dead girl Deadroll. Yeah, we'll go with Deadroll. Thanks, Mike. Simon's action really mixed with Star Wars. Come on, John, I don't want cornfields and Star Wars. If so, at least make them look more alien. Have you seen Predator Badlitz? Simon, that is ridiculous. Star Wars has multiple planets with multiple different environments. If you've read the books or the comic books or any of the canon stuff, there's multiple different environments or watch the Clone Wars. There was multiple environments, agriculture and otherwise. So yeah,

cornfields are important. Yeah, did you see the Predator Badlands trailer today? I did. Real Rejects covered it and I was working on it for socials. So I watched it because I try to avoid a lot of trailers these days, but some of them I end up catching work. I didn't see prey. I have not, I've been like completely not,

this isn't a franchise that I'm, I can't think of a single movie that I've seen. Oh, wow. I've got some viewing to do. So this trailer did nothing for me, but that's not fair. Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, right, because it's all your own thing. For me, I loved it. I thought it was amazing.

Considering Prey was very clearly shot a low budget for a streaming release, this is very much not that in the size and the scope and the images that you see in this teaser trailer. They shot it for IMAX, and you can tell by the look and the feel of this. A lot of Viking Norse, kind of allusions to some of the predator designs. And I just like the L. Fanning doing the voiceover. I'm curious for you what

kind of character she is. I love L. Fanning. Can I ask you a question about this? This might be a little insider baseball. But when I went to go post this trailer, work on posting for real rejects, I was putting together hashtags for them. And I was like, okay, I got to figure out who's in this.

So I went to the IMDB for Predator Badlands. And there's literally only two actors listed. Yeah. Are these movies where there's only two actors? Not usually, no, because the first Predator movie is a litany of actors at the time and pro wrestlers. They're all mixed in there for a fun movie. The second one has like Danny Glover and Bill Paxton and all these people involved in it. Does this have two performers in the whole movie?

Yeah, it might just be because Prey itself had a really limited number of actors in the film. and I think Dan likes this is the approach and so one obviously L. Fanning's playing the human cyborg whatever that is that she does and then the other guy is playing the predator so it's just going to be those

two in the movie working together to fight that massive creature that we see at the end of the teaser. Because even prey as 34 cast members listed two is just so rare to see like you know okay well well they might be they might be adding more because

you know out until November. So we'll see if I'm just curious about that. Sure. Dancing Dog 60 says, what movie always puts a smile on your face since it's goofy? Oh, it's goofy for me.

It's Invasion USA with Chuck Norris. Oh, wait. What movie always should smile on it? For me, for me, it's invasive. It's key here. Sorry about that.

For me, it's Invasion USA with Chuck Norris, goofy as hell, but it always makes me laugh. Oh, yeah. What? I've never heard of Invasion USA. this is why I love role models so much

it's so goofy and it always puts a smile on my face I love that movie so so much a goofy movie that puts a smile I guess forgetting Sarah Marshall that was a great one I love that movie I'm so surprised they never made the vampire musical out of that movie because that those songs

in that movie are hilarious Invasion USA is one of the multiple vehicles that Chuck Norris did back in the 1980s where he is representing America against foreign intruders who are trying to attack America. How is the movie? It's horrible.

It is horrible. Is it goofy? Huh? Is it goofy? Yeah, it's goofy in the fact that it's really cheeseball and how it approaches its violence and the terrible one-liners that Chuck is saying throughout the whole movie.

So, yeah. Do you know what, I, um, oh, no, never mind. It's the wrong. Okay. I don't mind. You said Chuck Morris. I was, again.

Move forward. Move forward. God. Let me have my brain moment. Calamantis says, Roxy has been negative about anything. You do it all the time. You destroy the interview with a vampire. Oh, Roxy.

People bringing out the receipts here. Did you destroy interview with a vampire? I don't do it all the time. You literally just named one movie. That was one movie. I'd watch this for real rejects, so I have to be honest when I'm watching something live, you know. The, I was, and I didn't destroy the movie. This is what I said.

I was so distracted by Kirsten Dunst being a child, being kissed by Brad Pitt. Oh, yeah. I couldn't get over it watching the movie. I felt so bad for her. I went down such a rabbit hole reading about her afterwards, talking about how uncomfortable she was. Yeah. And she was a child. and it ruined the movie for me.

That's not me destroying interview with the vampire. That's me saying I couldn't watch it and not feel like Hollywood totally screwed up on this. This is such a bummer for this real human, this real actress who was put in a position that she should not have put and put in, in my opinion. So that destroyed my personal viewing experience. Yeah. I think that's a valid personal thing. versus the quality of the movie.

So you're commenting from your personal. So that's not a negative thing about the movie. Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't like, this movie is horrible. I was like, I'm having a hard time watching this.

Yeah. Yeah. I have a hard time watching professional now when I watched the Natalie Ford. I just watched it for the first time and I loved it. But apparently the cut we watched edited a lot of stuff out. Oh, okay. So I don't know. But what I watched.

And the. And the difference was in that one, I felt like she was coming on to him, but I never thought he was coming on to her. So it might be the cut that I watched. But this one, I felt like he was coming on to her. Right. We have a kiss. It was so distracting to me.

That's fair. Don't do that. Don't do that. Nerds Engage, who's been a member for six months. Superman, Fantastic Four and Jurassic, all within two weeks of each other. How do you see that going? And is it good for the moment? movie theaters going forward.

Are they within two weeks? Yeah, in July. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah. So what's the order of that? Is it that that's the order? Hold on.

Let me take a look real quick while you give your thoughts on this. I think that is good for movie theaters going forward? Obviously, we like our stuff to be a little more spread out. I think that there's a lot of things that are good for movie theaters right now. I think Sinners is one of them. I think hype around Superman is another one of them. We'll see what the hype is for Fantastic Four. It seems to be mixed right now.

Jurassic, I think, is kind of a non-hype movie. I don't know anybody who's stoked for Jurassic right now. Yeah, I am not. I don't know one person. So that's... But of course, if the theaters do well in the summer, that's great. Yeah, yeah. So Jurassic World comes out on July 2nd.

July 11th is Superman, and then Fantastic Four. on July 25th. So it is Jurassic, Superman, Fantastic 4. That is so bad for Jurassic that Superman comes out a week after it. That is. I think Jurassic is in trouble. I mean, you're in one week. You're the fallout, the fall off from week one to week two for Jurassic.

And maybe they're just hoping to get a little bit of the run over from people who can't get Superman tickets. Oh, maybe. Maybe. Yeah. Because, I mean, those last three movies were horrible. but they all made over a billion dollars. So maybe they're hoping no matter where they put it,

there is a built-in Jurassic World fan base that will show up for this. We will see. And it's July 4th weekend. So maybe they think, you know, we're just going to grab it. But I hear you. And, you know, no, I don't think anyone's looking forward to Jurassic World. And Superman has gotten some negative reactions as well. And so we'll see how both Superman and Fantastic Four,

do as you mentioned, Fantastic for a bit of mixed reaction to. So we'll see how the overall box office is. But listen, in 2018, we were getting a new movie every two weeks as well for a majority of the summer, the new tent pole phones. And they all did well. The ones that were good did well. So it's a good test for all three of these movies. This is a post-COVID world, though. We're not used to it.

That's true. Back-to-back releases. That's a good point. People don't want to leave the house either. Nerds engaged support. Thanks, Roxy and John. Thank you, Roxy, for giving the Aerosmith story yesterday. You're welcome.

Thanks for the support. Keep sending it in. We just hit 40. We got a long way to go, guys. We got to get 50 more. Can you give me the story in 30 seconds? Do you know my dad worked with Aerosmith for a long time? I know that you've worked with bands. Your dad worked for a lot of bands for a long time. So he helped put Aerosmith back together after they had broken up.

He was like the impetus for getting them back together. That's the short version. In the 1980s, when they came out with like, you know, know dude looks like a lady and all of that the explosion from that wow that's amazing well i hope they paid him you know i don't think i would be saying that i would do this director's movie for almost any money if we were doing better so i'd have gotten myself paid off that put you back together where's my money i talk about nepo babies so much as i wish i was one god damn god damn Oh, man, that's great.

All right. Future Millionaire says, Keep up the good work, Roka. I'm trying. Thank you. Glad Christian trusts you enough to helm the ship when he's all. Suh, So, Ruxi.

Thank you. That's very kind. Future millionaire. I love it. Manifest it, babe. Get that bag. Get that pan. Yeah, exactly.

RQMD, SMD. Ooh, I got that. Support for Roka and Roxy and join the show. Thank you. You want to see something, John? Sure. RQMD, SMD. That's my guy.

That's my guy. Wow. All right. Respect. Respect. Respect. Jayman 24. The antisocial has become social, L.O.L. showing love. Are you the antisocial, J-Man, or are we the antisocial? Yeah, I'm confused. I don't know. I'm not anything. Thank you. Thanks for the love. Oh, yes. Thank you. It seems nice, so I'll take it. Fair point. Mark Jason Ali says support for the dream team. R&R. Black Doves, I mentioned yesterday's eight episodes and is getting a season two. Have you watched it, Roca?

Yes, the lady and outline and I are big anglophiles. So if it's a British show, we ripped through that thing as soon as it drops. So, yeah, we ripped through black doves in two days. Okay, I haven't seen it yet. And I didn't know about it until yesterday. This is the Kieranightly one. Yeah. And I am not a Kira Knightley fan, and I loved it.

So tell me. Stop with you in Kieranite. I mean, those teeth. They're a little scary. I'm not going to lie to you. Wait, what? I thought you were going to be like one time I was interviewing her and she was a night now. It's them team.

She made a joke about my mom. She made a joke about my mom. Mike Joyce says the new Predative movie comes out the day my brother gets married to his high school sweetheart. Should I skip the wedding slash reception to see it in IMAX? No. I was just going to say the same thing. I wasn't even going to make a joke of it. Roca.

No. No. Show up for the people you love. I know. For a movie? I would disown you. It's also the new Predator movie. It's not even the new, it's not even a sum man.

Like, get over it. You probably won't even get a ticket. You probably won't even get a ticket. So why bother? Nerds Engages, what are your thoughts on attention span? A lot of people take in their content 15 to 30 seconds at a time. How do you compete with it? And what was I talking about?

I think it's very concerning. It's so concerning, John. I mean, after, what was it, Quibi didn't work because that was during, the pandemic or whatever. Now there's all these new platforms that are popping up that basically do what they did, but they're doing it very successfully. And all these shows that are now four to eight minutes. And people are obsessed with them.

And between TikToks and like everything that Snapchat's, all the stuff, as somebody who is obsessed with television and movies, this is very concerning. Yeah. I don't know what the fix is. You don't know how to compete with it. If you have a video on social media that has more than three seconds average view time, it's considered success.

Really? That's the goal? Three seconds? It's like so scary. Wow. And I just, okay. That's amazing. I did not know that.

But yeah, I mean, because there's so much to consume now. There's so much media. And now we've got multiple social media platforms, right? ever since the Twitter stuff happened with Elon. Now you've got blue sky. You got threads. You got all this. There's so many social Facebook is supposedly dying.

But now Zuckerberg's trying to bring it back. So there's all kinds of stuff that distracts you. So yeah, I'm not surprised 15 to 30 seconds. I don't really think about it, to be honest with you. I just make my content. I'm very lucky to have the subscribers that I have and to keep building how I'm building. And so I don't really think about it. But I probably don't know.

What is not the right word. Yeah, well, yeah, fair points. very hardworking yeah i'm more yeah i am hard working yes but shorts or something that is to me right now a mountain and so i've got to figure out shorts to take advantage of the 15 to 30 seconds especially with the amount of stuff that jeff drops on the hot mic for god's sakes uh handsome rancas is a super check goddess roxy hashtag strier verse let's go nice kenya king please look up abby's game design not a spoiler uh okay I've seen the game design of Abby.

They've compared to, I don't know what the big deal is. I don't know what the laughing face is about. Do you think it's a funny design or what? Yeah. Does it look like Caitlin? Michael Hollenback. What's up, Michael? Catching up on the video, but thank you for having a discussion on Star Wars.

Also, John, how do you know Amy Trask? That's awesome. Well, Amy Trask is the former CEO of the Raiders, and she served under Al Davis. She is my lady outlaws aunt. And I have hung out with Amy quite a few times. I love her. She loves me.

And we have great conversations whenever we see each other about the NFL or about the Raiders. You say that today's episode? No, I don't know how people are bringing it up. I don't. I was like, I missed that. Yeah, where was I? Maybe on the, because she's always responding to my social media posts with really sweet stuff. So yeah, Amy's the best.

I love her madly. An incredible woman, hell of an accomplished woman. Dancing Dog 60 says Celtic City just shows how compelling sports is. Roxy, are you watching this on Max? Oh, yeah. I mean, what's better than being a Celtics fan and watching Celtics City? Look, I hate the Celtics. I've always hated Celtics, but this is an incredible documentary series.

It's unbelievable. We've got the finale next week. It's unbelievable. I waited until last week to start binging because I didn't want to have to wait week to week. because I just didn't want to. Right. Man, I just like tore through this. It's because, and it's honestly, it's not a lot that I didn't know because I'm a diehard and Celtics fan.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the way they're telling the stories and the interviews that they're getting and how it's shy and what they decide to talk about and focus on, especially as my favorite player of all time is Bill Russell. So there's just so many flowers for Bill Russell and this. as there should be. Yeah. And they get the like the daughters of Red Araback and the daughters of Bill Russell to talk.

Bob Coosie's still alive, or at least when they were shooting these interviews. That's what he said, because he was like, I know the only reason you guys want me is because I'm the only one who's still here, but okay, let's go.

I thought his candor was great, but mixing it in with the modern day guys like Jason Tatum and Gillen Brown. It's so smart to compare this. And then really kind of grasping the tragedy, of the Boston Celtics franchise with Lembias and Reggie Lewis and then what happened with Paul Pierce that was the episode last week you're like as as successful as this franchise is it's also really snake bit in a lot of situations here and so plus bringing in the Boston busing scandals and all

of that through the 70s I thought that was really genius and they smartly kept Bill Simmons to a limited amount of time you know you know we we all know Bill and his is fandom for God's Cool cast, GD says, first of all, Mr. Outlaw Nation, Ms. Stryor, y'all are awesome. And just to speculate, why do you all think Task is absent in the recent marketing? Oh, Taskmaster. Yeah. Well, just question for you, John. Wasn't Taff announced in the chair thing?

In the chair thing? Yes, Taskmaster. Oh, I think they were. Not the actress, though, right? was Olga Coralink? I don't think Olga Coralenko. I don't know. Yeah.

I don't think she was. Really? And she wasn't at the Premier London list. So then maybe because maybe she dies quickly. Yeah. I think the character dies quickly. I don't think Olga was on that set for one day. I think.

Okay. So then she's the one who dies and it's going to be quick and so they're not marketing her much. Yeah. I think so. A lot of people thought it might be Scarlett Johansson under the mask. And it's a reveal that she lived somehow. But no, she clearly dies. Okay.

Mike Joyce says, I'm excited with Thunderbolts. I hear Florence Pugh is great in it. Hashtag Pew Crew. I can't see why Christian prefers Julia Roberts to her. I can't see why this has become such an insane debate. It drives me nuts. I didn't start it, by the way.

Both gorgeous. Why are we constantly comparing women? It's so weird. Christian's like, why do you think it's so weird? If I asked you about it who's hot or X guy or Y guy. And I was like, yeah, but I wouldn't bring it up. up every week. I mean, he brings it up every week. Oh, he does. Okay. All right. I didn't know that. He's going to be like, that's hyperbolic language. I don't bring it up every week. He's brought up at least 10 shows.

That's a real statement. At least 10 shows, he's referenced that. Both hot, both dope, both talented. It's fine to have your preference. But why do we keep talking about it? Okay. That's a fair point. I agree. That's a fair point. Oh, man, Mike says, listen up, Jack Holes on the internet. Leave Caitlin. the Dever alone. She's an actress doing her job. How would you like if I came to McDonald's and insulted you? Whoa. Whoa. Old man, Kalidowski, calm down.

Calm down. He would never say that. Mike Joyce, maybe JLD dancing defeats the void. No, Chris Pratt already did that. I don't think they'll repeat that. Aaron Water says, Roxy, if I buy a real reject shirt, UK shop, is there a way for you to

sign it? Could I DM you on Insta? Would love to meet you when you come to the UK next. I have no idea. I don't think you'd be able to buy it on the shop and then I sign it because they're not, we don't have them. They're manufactured elsewhere. But feel free to DM real rejects, ask about it and we can run it by Greg. The shipping is so expensive that I don't know that it would be worth it. To the UK from that if we have to first send it to us and then I have to sign it and send it to the UK, it's going to be like hundreds of dollars.

It's so expensive right now to send anything there. So yeah, feel free to ask about it, but you got to be ready for that cashish. Yeah, bring that money out. Dancing Dog 60, Antioop opened. You got served to opening dance. Oh, it did. Oh, really? I don't think I ever saw you got served, but Antioop slaps.

Yeah, agreed. Dancing Dog also says, Ui Bull is only slightly above porn quality, to be honest. They don't knock those porn directors. Some of those people are. Is that true, though? Is it like a porno that I just said that I would take money for? No, it's not. No, no.

They're cheesy, really, really bad action films. Usually set in some weird time period. Luke S says, support for Roxy, but why does she hate Wednesday in the last of us? That's right. Can't help it. I have no taste. Chris Kraus, Roka, you and Christian, do the Aslo rep at Florida State auditioned for a few times got a bucket list theater role no I never did it Chris because I

I did I you know I got into college late I was 27 when I back went back to college and so once I graduated I was almost 30 so I went right to LA I didn't want to spend another three years or two years in another college but who knows maybe I would have gotten connections or whatever but I don't think Christian did it either I'm sure Christian bucket list theater role uh I don't know uh Billy Sunday from Chicago. I would love to play Billy's time. Right? I can do it. I know the song. I had a gambler. Oh. Oh my God. I've always wanted to play her.

That's a nice choice. I like to love her. We're such weird nerds. I'm sure people were just like unsubscribe. Unsubscribe. Mirage of Serenity Moons and support for the lovely Roxy and John. I loved the three episodes from Andor, watched it this morning in my bed. Oh. That rocks. Good way to watch.

Yeah. Anthony on Squared, I'm assuming too says, have you tried 40X at the theater thinking of trying? That's the one that moves around, right? 40X, I think. I think screen X is the one that's across three. I don't know.

I don't know. That is the one that chairs move, right? Yes. So that's 40X. So I did that for Novakane at a screening. And that was a rough screening. let me just tell you because we were getting jerked around left and right they would spray water on us when somebody got hit with blood was it fun or distracting it was distracting by the end and i certainly had to lay on my back and stretch it out the next day

because those those they jerk you around like crazy uh bobby jackson says john i love that you went from doubting thunderbolts would ever come out to now anticipating its release i know right what a crazy world Isn't it crazy that with new information, we're allowed to change our minds. Bobby rocks. Thanks, Bobby. Thank you, Bobby. He also says support for R&R. Respect and support again. Thank you, Bobby.

Go Pal's back. Go Pal's back. Jason Segal said on the commentary that the vampire music was funny because he put it at the end of a comedy movie. But when he wrote it, he actually thought that would be the rest of his career, that would be probably the rest of his career or the end of his career, maybe he's trying to say. Or maybe it would take the rest of his career. Oh, it would take the rest of his career.

Oh, take the rest of his career, man. Oh, my God, I love that sequence. Yeah, I would have loved it if he had done just at least a 30-minute one. It would have been great to see. Aaron the creative, ever since the announcement of Robert Downey Jr. as Dr. Doom, there's been one thing that has bugged me, which is them not holding this reveal till the end of Doomsday. It would have blown our minds your thoughts. I think that they think that they need it for marketing to get people excited about something.

So I don't think that they were going to be able to hold that. And if they weren't able to hold it, I think it's better that they gave us time to sit with it, then announced it closer to it. But I hear you. And in a dream world, do I think that if last things were spoiled, then when we went to the theaters,

would we have cooler experiences, probably? Yeah. Yeah, probably. I agree with Roxy. I think if Marvel had been on a high, they could have saved this as a massive reveal. It might have leaked out. It might have been rumored.

right by the time it happened. But I think if they had been on a high, they'd had more confidence to hold that reveal. But because they haven't been on a high rate lately, and it's been very mixed, I think they felt this was a way to wake people up. But then again, the reception to it was mixed anyway. So damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Yeah, totally. Lion Main Man says Thunderpost looks like the same formulaic stuff we've been getting for the last 15 years. Oh, you've seen mental health and depression and suicidal thoughts in a Marvel movie for 15 years? What movie is that? Let me know what movie that is. I know we got PTSD with Iron Man 3 years ago,

but like I don't think it's a standard thing in Marvel movie. I wonder Lion Main Man if what you mean is a superhero team up motley crew because there's been a lot of comparisons to like suicide squad or Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh, fair. And so potentially when you say formulaic, you're worried about it being like team of misfits. Right. But from what we've seen from the marketing, I don't feel like this is going to be formulaic and the same as as what we've seen in terms of that misfit band. We'll see though. We'll see. All right. We're at 47 super chats here. We still have 15 minutes people. So, you know,

if you want to keep us on the air, sending in super chats is how to do it. Dancing Dog Sidney says, Quibi flopped as short form streaming though, right? Yeah, but it was during the pandemic when people weren't leaving their houses. And that's why I think could be really flopped. The timing on that was horrific. Yeah. I had quite a few friends who were like

were excited because they were hosting shows or co-hosting shows on there. I was on there. Oh yeah. Okay, right. Yeah. Yeah. It just kind of didn't work out, unfortunately.

Yeah, yeah. I think Maude had her show on there too. There was a bunch of people. And at first I was kind of hesitant about the idea of it. But then it is cool to have those quick bites, not instead of having like long shows, but if you are on the go

and you're just looking for something for 10 minutes, whatever, but the fact that it dropped right, none of us could leave our house and we had all the time in the world, that sucked for them. That sucked. That's a fair point.

Yeah, that COVID thing, man. That COVID thing, man. I mean, like, obviously it was terrible that people died and, you know, it was horrible all of that. But like the other side of it, it really was a nuclear bomb into the entertainment industry. Like we're still recovering from the explosion of that.

Absolutely. And don't know if we ever will fully recover for that. Yeah. You know, I said this in one of the earlier shows like in 2020, it was like that people are creatures of habit. And the second you accustom them to being able to get the entertainment at home, they're not going to want to come back to the theater in the same numbers as they did before. And sure enough, that's still an issue for some of these movie theaters.

that they're not having no rights that they did before. And it's a shame. Nathan Drake says, Wyatt Russell is great in Overlord. I didn't see Overlord. A lot of good young actors in Overlord. It's a really good movie. Who else is in that?

Let's get to it. Because I don't know them all by name and I don't want to say their name. I've seen it a couple times. Yeah. Jovena Depot is in it. Pilo Asback is in it. Who is one of the villains in the House of the Game of Thrones, rather. John McGarro, who we've been seeing now, he was in past lives.

He was the husband in past lives. He was a part of this thing as well, Dominic Appoy. And Joseph Quinn, a young Joseph Quinn from Stranger Thing is in this film as well. So yeah, some good young actors being a part of this, a little white Russell. What else we got? Smithy, Roxy Roca, Rockon. Woo! Just announced Bill Hader will co-write, direct, and potentially star in a Jonestown series

for HBO is Scorsese out there crying about this? Hater is Jim Jones thoughts? Is this real? Yeah, it seems like. Yeah, I'm not surprised. What do you think? Do you're not surprised about which part, the Bill Hader part or that they're doing a Jones Town series for HBO?

The Bill Hater part, I'm not surprised by because I think he's been, I mean, that last season of Barry was like an art house black box theater type of approach to a, quote, quote, sitcom. And so he has very dramatic, darker tendencies in some of his choices as an actor. So him wanting to play Jim Jones, that's not a surprise. And I can kind of see facially in terms of the chin and the cheeks here, how he can do a little bit of makeup to resemble Jim Jones. I hear you.

Yeah. Are you watching the studio? Yes. I finished the whole thing. It's a really good. So you understood this Scorsese reference. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, from the first episode, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I need to know more about this. I tend to gravitate towards these kinds of properties, which is unfortunate because I hear from psychologists that people who gravitate towards things like this are mentally on well. What? You mean the cult stuff? Yeah, cult stuff, true crime stuff.

But I do, you know, like, whether it's docs or scripted, I'm so intrigued. Did you see the new Oklahoma City Bomber thing on Netflix, the documentary? No. Highly, highly recommended. Okay. It's an hour and a half, and it's an incredible breakdown of what happened that day in 95. I think it was.

Philly G says support. Thank you, Philly. Nathan Drake says Jane Fondra, Idris Elba, never forget. I don't know what that means. Are you just naming people I love? I don't know I don't know Michael Baldwin

I didn't play the game I had no idea what was going to happen Don't let me catch Abby on these streets because there's going to be problems I hear you Yeah were you like where are you at with Abby right now You understand why she did what she did Because of the death of her

Hater killer It's on site It's on site I am not okay like delulu but yeah of course on paper i do fully understand and right if you did that to me i do which abby did to you right and yet she took joel so bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang done all you done wow done why where are you even the kids who didn't maybe want to participate in it were really stop her did not stop her wow done bang bang

bang bang done roxy with brutal justice there man that's boston justice for you i guess um do you love abby no i don't love abby and i don't think you're supposed to so for right and i don't like the way she relished killing him and the that's why i tweeted the quote out where he said just shut okay shut to shut the fuck up and get on with it already i thought that was a great thing for him to say as like you're young so you think you can like in joy this or lord this over me fuck you just do it you know and i love that as an energy from joel uh so for me that's what bother me but again i reserve judgment to see where this all leads because we know joel wasn't wasn't any kind of angel so you know i'm not saying he was but he was ours

if jesse and joe were hanging off a cliff who do you save oh joel you would say joel over jesse a crush goes away oh i see i see oh this is deep the joel thing is forever but Jesse's so cute that's hilarious y'all can get high in eugene's shop I don't know if you that's what I'm saying paint the picture paint the scene

oh man gopile says Seagull thought the rest of his career would be puppet musicals like Dracula after F&G and undeclared didn't even get whole seasons and pre-how I met your mother oh oh these things we talk ourselves into Yeah. Doug says the asylum produces films like

Mega Python versus Gatoroid and blatant ripoffs like the transmorphers. Would you ever act in films like those? No, no, I would never do it. What's my answer going to be, John? Yes, it's going to be yes for Roxy. How much money, honey? I don't want to be a sellout, but sometimes in life, we have to make money in order to provide.

That's true. That's true. That's why I'm very thankful that I have multiple revenues stream so I can be selective on the things I want to do. And something like this, I'm not, I don't need no. I mean, because I don't. You know, me on the other hand, losing job daily, need the money. Essentially is like asking me, do you want to provide a great life for Grammy and do this movie or no?

Yeah. I mean, that's certainly the difference. Yeah, I don't have anyone depending on me to to take care. They can ask me to pick my nose and flick my boogers in the movie. And I'd say, what's the paycheck? what's the paycheck wow wow all right fair point not forever at some point i'll be above it all you will you will that london movie will get you closer for sure yeah dude it's doing it's it's giving me a little buzz right now which is cool that's good one yeah and that movie's actually great so

luckily i didn't have to pick my nose and flick my booger exactly you're not that you're not that actresses or actors at that level you're not that Luke S says, are you streaming later on Roxy? Also, what do you think? What do you both think of sinners? I enjoyed it, but it's barely been reviewed here in the UK. Yeah, I love. Thank you for asking.

John, I've been answering every question first, like such a bitch. No, I don't care. Go. I don't have any. Thank you for asking as if I was hosting the show today. It was a little raging loony. I talk about it anyway. Go ahead.

No, you don't. I've been taking the World Girl spot streaming Wednesday nights, but tonight I'm going to a premiere of a movie. So I told everybody early that I was not going to. I'm going to stream tomorrow night instead. Nice. What are you going to see? That's a good question.

Has there ever been a premiere of a movie that you can't say what you're seeing? No, I don't think so. Unless you're being asked to go to a secret screening, that's different. A premiere is going to get press cops. Then I think I can. I'm seeing a movie called Mob Cops. It's with David Arquette and Kevin Connolly. And it's nice.

Yeah, that's what I'm going to. I'm very excited about it. Are you covering it or just going to see it? No, I'm going, but I paused for a second because I was like, I haven't heard if this is announced, but it's a premiere. So I must be able to talk about it. I was invited by a friend. They're probably happy that you're announcing it here on the show.

Yeah, you just know when you get nervous about something because you're just like, can I say this out loud? And then you're like, nobody cares. Of course, I can say this out loud. It's a premiere movie. I'm going to post about it. Right on. Well, if you don't, I don't.

will be i know roxy's not live streams now but if you want to catch me and winston coming back with spill the tequila tonight we are live streaming at 4 pm pt tonight that will now be an weekly show me and winston a marshal hanging out talking about the things going on the world of entertainment and outside the world of entertainment like how long is your show hour and a half 90 minutes right into mine i'm six pm on wednesday so perfect they got to do it back to back watch you go pee make food watch me it's important I love how you think it was peeing. Dancing Dog 6 says, Wonder why a network hasn't revised Second City TV.

Second City still exists and trains new talent all the time would be a nice Netflix show. Yeah, maybe because, I mean, they've got S&L going on in the UK now, Roxy. So what about bringing back another type of show like that? Yeah, and I always find myself loving things like this. Even like whose line is it anyway or whatever. Just so this would be cool.

I feel like somebody would, I think this was a no-brainer. It would be fun. Yeah. All right. We're getting close to, I know you've got to go soon here. RQMD. SMD.

Yes. Yeah. Aaron, the creative says, what number at the box office does Superman hit that makes them nervous? I'm thinking Black Adam number 350 to 450. They're saying like how low could it be that DC would be afraid? Yeah. I think if this does less than 500, they're scare crappless.

yeah oh yeah because i mean even brave new world got close to got over 400 i think eventually yeah if it's less than i was scared crapless i don't think that they're going to be happy if it's less than 600 or even 700 so yeah that's what i would say 750 anything below 750 i think they'd be nervous anything above 750 is gravy for them and they know they're on the right track uh jac s says i just saw sinners it was great but when the credit started the entire theater got up and left so i sat there in the theater for the ending, L.O.L. Was it a mistake to end it that way?

Well, we're not going to reveal the ending here. People still seeing the movie, but I liked that ending, and I like the movie a lot. And I'm sure the hot mic is going to be real hot with Jeff and I battling over the film. You guys are the, you're such a good duo. Such a good duo.

He, I think you can know this, but he loves you. Really? He never tells me. He never tells me. Is that true? Yes, never said it. We had a whole phone call about you this week. Really? Yeah.

Yeah. That's very nice. And he really respects you. And he respects very few people. Not enough to mention me as one of the critics he reads or listens to about movies. But we'll discuss that on Thursday. Yeah, I saw that. He shot up to read people.

I was like, ooh, the team. Oh, yeah. I love this movie also. And I loved this ending. I loved it. The person I was with was kind of thrown by the ending. But I was like, I thought that that was, I just thought it was a perfect, smart way to do it.

Yeah. I was great because I went to see a screening of it and then like people were streaming out of the theater and then as soon as that credit came, people's kind of running back into the theater sitting there in the walkways to watch it. So I thought that was great. Yeah. Alex Ruelas says you can either be the good guy or the guy who saves the world. You can't be both Cecil and invincible. Joel chose to be the good guy.

Oh yeah. Right. fair because he could have let Ellie die last season at the end of last season, but didn't. But I think this is also about the fact that he could have let Abby go in the snow and he saved her. Right. Right. He even said that. I saved your life. Why would you do this? Right. Exactly. I made it all the more. That's why we pissed at Abby. Get on my level. Yes, I hear you. Dancing Dog Series, how the hell was Stephen Seagal a movie star? Well, you know, it's the 80s.

We were doing a lot of cocaine in the 80s. It's such a funny question. This is what we were into, man. I mean, Van Dam, Jeff Speakman, Chuck Norris. I mean, these are not necessarily, you know, great actors. Although Van Dam and JCBD is one of the most transcendent performances ever. But like... Sometimes just being entertaining is enough.

Yeah, yeah, that's true. Look at Adam Sandler. No. I'm saying he's entertaining. I'm saying he's entertaining. And talented and above and be, keep my hero's name out of your mouth. Put some respect on it.

Oh my God. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just want him to stop doing grownups and crap like that. Stop doing that. Do better stuff. Nathan Drex says I was referencing Schmodown controversies. Oh, Idris Alba. Was that one you were involved? Oh, yeah, Elba, Alba.

Oh, was it? I think. think it was i maybe it was in drako who spelled it alba instead of alba well right when you were managing that and then it became after that we they were like if they're if the last name is a different last name but they gave us the point for that i think yeah i did not get the point for jane fonda and i still think i should have gotten what was the jane fonda thing was it was me against a boy uh jeff and the patriot's Jeff and me and Nost against Jeff and JT. And we spun westerns and or they spun westerns. And the question was who plays this teacher and cap,

I think Capelieu was the name of the film. And I'd written Lee Marvin down initially. And then I was like, oh, no, no, no, it's Jane Fonda. And we had only one repeat left because Matt had used both repeats in the first two rounds. So I started scratching and I started to write Jane Fonda. But because I get so hyper emotional, I was just like, you know, because it was only three seconds left. and what was up there was squiggly lines.

But like neither one of the two guys got it right. And I knew it was Jane Fonda. And I said Jane Fonda and lifted it up. But they took, Christian took the points away. It didn't give me the points because I didn't write it legibly on the board. Could you see any, could you see any of it? You could really, I mean, you could maybe make the J out, maybe. But yeah, you know, it was.

That's tough. That's so tough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was an embarrassing moment for sure. All right, is that everything both Both under siege movies were watchable. Yes, agreed. Those were good films.

The first one was definitely. All right, there we go. I know you got to go. So thank you all. One more, John. What? One more? We got one more?

Oh, sorry. All right. Don't mess with Go, pal. He says, remember when the kid from step by step was in all the kickboxer sequels? Yeah, Sasha Mitchell. But then it came out, he was kickboxing inappropriate people. I didn't I don't remember that I do yeah Sasha got a lot of trouble for some of the stuff he was doing back then yeah which is why you don't see that sitcom coming back like you do the other ones like Malcolm in the middle what have you all right that's all of it I think that's it we got to go all right thank you all right thank you all much for hanging out with us we appreciate it Madley we didn't get to 85 but you know we got to 60 which I think is okay uh Roxie Stryer please let people know where they can find you and everything that's going on here you can find me everywhere at Roxie Stryer and I'll be streaming

on my channel tomorrow night. Ah, tomorrow night. Go and find her out tomorrow night. Thank you, Roxy. Much love to you. I'll see you soon. Thank you, Roca. Much love, T.L.

See you soon. Bye. All right, there you go. That was the great Roxy's trying to hang it up with us here on the Christian Harlov show. Very honored to share the screen with her because I rarely get to see rocks now. And so it's so much fun to get a chance to have a little East Coast swagger on this Christian Harlov show.

I think all, is everybody on the show East Coast? I don't know where I think Corey's from Boston. I don't know if Winston, I forget where Winston's from. Maybe he's, oh, he's south, right? He's Texas. So we're pretty much East Coast type of approach to the show here.

But great to see Roxy and I going back and forth about stuff. So I hope you enjoyed our answers. Hope you enjoyed the show, enjoyed all the comments down below and all the things we talked about. Keep it civil, keep it respectful, you know, try to be nice as much as you can and let us know your thoughts on all that. What are your thoughts on Thunderbolts?

What are your thoughts on Last of Us? What do you thoughts on our big conversation on Andor, which blossomed into what I thought was just going to be a five to ten minute conversation in the 30 minutes. What did you think of all that? And don't forget about Stitch Fix as well. And don't forget to keep watching the Christian Hall-up show tomorrow. As for me, you can follow me at the Rokas on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, and Blue Sky and Threads. And my YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Roker says, as I said, going live at 4 p.m.

With me at Winston A. Marshall, got some new graphics, got some new opening videos. It'll be a lot of fun. And we're going to talk about some real. shit let me just say that now so it ain't going to be just the regular entertainment stuff we're going going to get in deep on some stuff especially around sinners because apparently there's some drama going on between the latin american community and the black community around this movie i had no idea about it we're going to talk about it at 4 pm pt on my channel the outlaw nation all right y'all take care of yourselves be well i love you madly and we'll talk to you next time with another

brand new episode of the christian harlough show peace everybody