The Kristian Harloff Show - Ex-Government employee reveals the US is indeed reverse engineering UFO technology?!

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

PATREON: Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow   The UAP/UFO phenomenon continues. There have been continued claims of the UFo retreival program. David Grusch and countless others have spoken about it. On Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp interviewed former government employee Dr. James Lacatski and he dropped a bombshell. Lacatski who ran the UFO program for the gorvernment. This was the organazion that was revealed in 2017 in the New York Time article. Lacatski says the US governemnt is in posession of a UFO and that it has been cracked and we have indeed been reverse engineering it. We also discuss Tim Burchett and others bing able to enter a SCIF with David Grusch and other potential whistleblowers. We check out what is going on onUFOTwitter and seeing what we think looks legit or not. Join Kristian Harloff, Mark REilly and roxy Striar on UAP Tuesday Big Thing! #uap #ufo #alien #boblazar #reverseengineering #whistleblower #government

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It's the big thing, folks. I'm excited to talk to everybody. And man, it's like there's new stuff every week. We've been talking about it for a bit now about, yeah, I'm sure that the skiff, man, the skiff, or the senators ever going to get in? Well, Bert Chet says yes. And Luna says, yes. It looks like they're going to get into a skiff potentially with David Grush. But he's not the only one.

Bertchette was on an interview talking about how it's a ton of. of other whistleblowers and that as he says he's like he's he's not the only one has all this information that they're potentially getting in the skiff with so that's a very interesting point Jeremy Corbell is a very prominent voice in the uap space he had uh someone on his show who said another confirmation of yeah we have these ships we've cracked these ships we're reverse engineering these ships and the question is well who the hell is this guy and how Why do we take this person serious? We'll get into that.

We'll go into some of the footage that's running around on UAP Twitter or whatever the hell it's called these days. And we look at it at the very end of it. We'll explore it and we'll get into more conversations. I watched the first part of the George Napdok on News Nation. I think part two comes out today. See if that was good. We do some housekeeping. Comment that happened last week that you guys were very upset about.

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Big Thing. Let's get it. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back. UAP Tuesday, big thing. Mark, Yodius Riley, in the house. Happy to be a Christian, as always. Roxy Stryor.

Yop. I knew you were waiting to say that. You were waiting for. Roxy, what's been going on? How are you? What has been going on? The world is on fire. And actually, with things that really matter,

but still aliens being top of the list of things that really would change the entire freaking world. We're glad to have you back on the show. Happy to be back. I was worried I pissed you guys off one and too many times. Well, that's probably true, but not enough to keep you off the show. Yeah, there's tons of things.

Briley, should we do housekeeping first? Yeah, let's do that first. So last week on the show, we were talking about the George Knapp doc, and on it, we hadn't seen the first part yet, and Riley had written, he'd read an article. That would have pissed him off even more. You wrote it, no, but you read an article about the story. stuff that George Knapp was talking about. And in the documentary itself, he does, he is the first people who was interviewed and

kind of cracked the case of Bob Lazar and revealed Bob Lazar. But Riley had said that it was Bob Lazar who had said like there was a meeting with aliens. Yeah, yeah, I actually just misread the damn article while I was sourcing. So that's my bad, everybody. It was that, that especially, no. And when you're dealing with stuff like this, you don't want to say stuff that's wrong. Right.

And that's what is more important to me, so that's an apology on my part. Totally. I mean, it happens. There were just people that were saying things along the lines of like, I've done a lot of research in Lazare. He's never said that. He's never said that. Absolutely right. He never said that.

But the meeting. It's really more about what was said for me. Yeah. You know what I mean? The content of it. And who is it the said it? So I'm correct in this? So John Lear, believe that.

The Lear. Yeah. So what it was is Roxy. So in this documentary, George Knapp talks about kind of how he got to, part one anyway, I haven't seen part two, but he gets to Vegas, he starts working for this news company. He's doing a lot of stuff on the mob, but then he starts, he gets a, John Lear comes in and wants to pitch this story of all the stuff that he knows to this one particular reporter. He's like, and Lear's like, this is going to change the world and this and this and that. And the guy is like, you know, whatever. And so Nap goes, hey, I do this interview show.

Yeah. You want to sit down with me? And he did, and he did for, and he didn't know if he was telling, Nap didn't know if he was telling the truth or whatever it might be. Just talking about how there was, the government had definitely had crashed vehicles and all these different things. Arranged a meeting. There was a meeting of aliens. Now, I don't know if that was in part one, no, but it was just, but there was, he basically just said there was so much inside of military documents that he had.

And then Nap was like, look, the place went nuts once we, the ratings and people are like, this guy, tell him the truth. And he's like, I don't know if he's telling truth. They've got to have him on again. So then they had him on again. And it was Lear who basically got Bob Lazar to talk to Nap. But at the time, Lazar was like shaded. They didn't silhouetted. They didn't show his face.

I forget what they called him. I think they called, whatever they called him. They called him some fake name because it was Bob Lazar. is like superior so he used his name and he said that he got threats because of it but then eventually Lazare came out and talked about it's a pretty fascinating thing what I will say after watching the doc is I didn't know enough about George Knapp going into it I mean I'd heard his name obviously through this community but I totally believe George Knapp is a full-on like baller of a reporter and I think that he believes a lot of the stuff that you know these people are telling him but he's just

in some of the stuff he's like I don't know what I believe but yeah yeah when you get like stories like that if you walk in and talk about, you know, military has this, military has that, and I have first-day knowledge, it seems to be repeating now. Yeah, well, Roxy, they're basically said that NAP is like the godfather of UFO reporting. Right. Yeah. What would you guys do if you felt like you had definitive proof? Like, at this point, I feel like even if you share it with somebody, it does, everybody

questions you anyway. I've talked about this. Do you know, if I was, if I was, he and I, like, a couple weeks ago, if I was walking down the street, go to the woods to walk the dog, I have my phone on me. I mean it pops out and I get it. It's going right on this YouTube channel. Yeah. Like right there. Are you being not serious though?

100%. That's your first step. I'm immediately posting it on this channel and letting people say whether I'm, because at that moment, no one's confiscating it. No one's like, I'm not telling anybody else, I'm putting it right on the channel and people can say it's fake, people can say this or whatever and then they look at it and they can analyze it and then people

you know, the real people will go, what is that? What did you do? What did you see? It's going right on the channel, immediate. You don't think that would delegitimize it? I mean, it just is... If it was real? Yeah, I think it's just so challenging because even going to what you said, Mark, about why it is so important to not give the wrong name,

because there is already so much misinformation out there that we never want to add to it, of course. But even things like this, it does make me... Of course, you're always going to be skeptical. You hear there's a meeting with aliens. Right. Your brain immediately goes to BS. No way. Back to truck up.

Where was the meeting? Were the aliens sitting? Were they standing? What did they look like? Were they in a bowl? Were they liquid form? Right. Your brain just starts to wander.

And at some point, I don't feel like I'm capable of hearing information like that. Sure. So I don't know that the world is capable of seeing your YouTube channel alien. Well, footage. I mean, I feel like there's misinformation out there on purpose. And then there's information that is put out. out there in a truthful way that is misinterpreted. And then people ask misinformation,

they wanna fill in blanks. I feel you, man, I do the same thing. I feel like there's somewhat of a protection in it because you get it out there, it's out there, it's unedited, it's like, no, this now is stamped in time. I would also send it to James Fox. Yeah. Well, I would say you start going around to the experts.

Right, I would immediately send and say, look, if I legit actually saw it, like clear as day, that's the first thing I would do. I'd go right to the channel, hey, James, look at this, get this over to whoever else you want to do, say what you want to say about it, I know what I saw, right? That's what I would do because I don't want any of this, because if it's that clear, right,

because it does seem a lot of times when people are getting the footage and we'll look at some of it later from it's the little dots, and even the one that I saw that I think is pretty compelling is this family, I think, is in, like, England, and they're watching, like, this, it looks like just a star, And a lot of times I'll look out of the sky sometimes and you just see like a big bright star and like, well, it's a star.

This looks like a star, but it starts zipping and moving and the kids don't know what it is and the father doesn't know what it is. And there could be an explanation for it. They really could be. But it's also. The way that it moves, I don't know, but it's still. I sound like such a skeptic today.

And I think I'm probably the least skeptic at this point because of the, yeah, that's the kind of thing. All the time now when I look up into the sky, especially also after hearing your story, Mark, of what you saw, I just want to be chosen. I don't want to look at the sky and see something so that it can start to be with my own eyes. Because I've never seen anything even remotely that made me question, is that a UAP? Right.

And if I were to see that, I feel like that would be everything that I would personally need. Yeah. But not many of us get what Mark had. Yeah, I know. It's weird. Yeah. Yeah. And I've mentioned it before, but, you know, throw this out.

there you know the fact that I was I happen to be with somebody that has claimed right to have seen you know UAPs on numerous occasions as well as um abduction you know and then for him what yeah for him to be there with me no he's he has been he is uh claimed to be abducted numerous I want to have him on the show yeah he's claimed to have been abducted numerous times numerous times and so then I asked the question that you're thinking right now is he a lunatic yeah I asked that. Yeah. He was the director of my film.

I was asking a nicer maybe. Yeah. Yeah. He was the director of my film, my horror film about aliens. So, yeah, he had this, his crazy, passionate connection that is absolutely real. And they brought him back? Hmm? They brought him back.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. But do you see the, look, everything that just went through there from what we're talking about here to what the audience is feeling right now. Right. It's the general consensus because there's a couple of different scenarios here. That's true. But there's a couple of different scenarios. The scenario one where I say is he a lunatic, right?

And that's because, not because like, oh, he's crazy seeing aliens, is because there are also people who are out of their minds who talk to mailboxes and believe they're having conversations with them. So you ask that conversation and you say, hey, and he's saying, no, he's not. He's good there. You're thinking about it and you're going, well, I don't know. But what if on this scenario, what if this is true? Nicest guy I've ever met, actually.

What if it's true? Do you believe him, Mark? I do. Wait, but you see... I believe he believes it. But you believe he believes it. I believe that he has had an experience that I can't even imagine what it must be like. But do you think he was actually abducted by aliens?

I'll tell you this. I'm going to curse, too. What the fuck did I see? And why was I with him? And why was that the fifth time for him? And, you know, when you start to... You should hang out with this guy, Roxy. When you start to put together some of the...

His experiences and then why, like, there we are. and I saw it with my own two eyes, and I saw this thing, and again, I've seen in comments, like, what did you see? Let me give you a short rundown. Big light, green halo, booking across the sky right in front of us over the trees. We were in a forest in Michigan. It stopped dead in the sky.

It hovered. You're all looking at it. Another one behind us flashed us. Trees lit up. I turned around. That thing just went, never seen anything in my life move as fast as that thing. Is there any reason that you could do?

determine that they would specifically want this person? No, I can't determine it. I just think it's odd and curious. I am. I'm absolutely implying that why is it that I had my experience with somebody that is questioned and had it real, real, real experiences to where he is, you know, I've sat down with him numerous times over, you know, breaking bread, having deep conversations. And, you know, I don't want to paraphrase him.

I want to misquote him, but I know he's just, I can't explain it. Will he legit talk about it on air? Yes. He will. Yeah. He's talked about it on my old podcast, so I'm sure he would. I'm so sorry, I have to be here. Yeah.

Why are you apologizing? I have 4,000 questions. It's a fantastic conversation because I've had everything. Did he say it was not friendly? Oh, I can't. I don't know. I'm sure it's more complicated than that. It's very complicated.

It's, you know, it's some, some have attributed it to like night terrors when you feel that, you know, that presence over you can't move. Yeah. You know, that's not friendly feeling. That's, you know, that is terrifying, but also there's, you know, experiences he, he, he said, you know, where he could see his body coming out of the house, you know, and it just disappearing. You know, stuff like that. That is just, you want to, when you talk about that, especially, for me, that's where I go, and part of, you know, the housekeeping up top when they, arranged a meeting. They met in person. This is somebody I know well and

respect and the door and he's like, yeah, I was actually taken. So to talk to him about it, it's where I draw a line almost where I'm like, it's so hard for me to believe that. But he, when you talk to him, there is some profound thing that happened that is very interesting to, um, yeah, it'd be fascinating as it's digest. Yeah. Because also, if he is telling the truth, I feel horrible for him because right. right now, I don't believe him. That's kind of my point. That's my point. My point is the same thing.

Where I ask that, you say that because how can you? And it's like, why is this and again, no offense to him because I don't know him. I don't know him. I mean, I met him He's a very nice guy. But like you say to yourself, why would they care about a film director who is... That's why I ask if there's any reason

they would take him. Right. He's not a political pundit, you know. That's exactly right. And your question is the most valid. What if he's 100% telling the truth? And it's just like, but you don't know why. If that happened to me and I was trying to convince you guys and you didn't believe me, I would be devastated. Of course. I mean, I would be devastated.

But think, okay, so that's one scenario. That pushes us right into our next topic, which is essentially this Jeremy Corbell interview about this guy that he interviewed, that Roxy, you listen to it. Riley, I think you listened to it as well, too. I'm going to play the clip for you guys, then we'll talk about it on the other side. This is from News Nation interview with Jeremy Corbill, I'm going to play a little bit of it and then we'll talk about it. An interview, definitely a bombshell. Dr. James Lakatsky had him on, says that there's UFOs in government possession that they've seen the inside.

Why should we believe this guy? Like, explain who he is? Right. So I wouldn't classify Dr. Lakatsky as a whistleblower. Dr. Lakatsky is for decades been involved with the Defense Intelligence Agency. and he actually ran the UFO program that the world learned about in 2017. It was misreported. The $22 million went to a group called AOSAP,

Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program. And Dr. Lekatsky ran that for the Defense Intelligence Agency. He's not speaking out of school here. Just like David Grush, he submitted for these dopser requests, which are basically requests of what can I say about my work? And he's written a new book. And in that book, there was this bomb shell, this atom bomb, and I was reading it. I couldn't believe it.

So George Knapp and I had him on the show because this is a rocket scientist who ran the UFO program for the United States for the Defense of Intelligence Agency. And in that statement was three things. He said the U.S. government has a UFO in our possession. Already, that's amazing, that he admitted that. Then he says, we have an exploitation program to reverse engineer it. And then third, we breached the whole of that crap. So all of this was outlined in like a simple statement. So we had him on and he just straight admitted it because he could because it was the legal process he went through to be able to admit that.

So like David Grush, he had to get special permission. All right. So that's, that's the juicy party. Yeah. That's just that's. So what's fascinating about that rocks is that like Jeremy Carbell said, this isn't just some. ran and not to take away anything from the guy that brought in the alien bodies

at the Mexican hearing but like the guy was kind of like you know he's like the movie version of he found this thing. This is a guy that worked for the program like he worked for the program and in his book that's the part that's the part where people go yeah he's writing a book so he yeah of course he wants sales

on it but I feel like when you hear about Dr. Lakatsky's history and what he's done and having to get permission in order to do this the same thing as Grush. I mean, the first part and the second part, so they broke it down to the three parts, right? We already

kind of have heard a lot about, right? The first part being that they have UAPs in their possession. Right now, we've heard that from several different people that are credible sources that they're looking to reverse engineer it. We know that as well. But the whole part, what is the, they breached the whole.

I mean, that is the thing that when I heard of all of the other information that came out this week because every week is fully loaded, that was the part that I'm thinking, don't even know what that means. Like, is the whole the key? Is it is the whole the center? Is the whole what they were looking to, uh, get into so that they could reverse engineer is the whole the last part was the whole the first part. Like what is the whole? I know. Keep going. Like I just, I was like, and then. Yeah, I'm going to play. I'll play a little bit more of the, the interview, um, in a second. No, it just feel like, keep going like down the rabbit. How far did they get? Well, the reason why again, if you listen to, the interview like Bob Lazard did on Rogan, right? When he was talking, they talked about, I'm pretty sure, again, the audience will definitely correct me if I'm wrong,

but I'm pretty confident that he talked about how there was like this, that they were trying to like crack to get inside of it where there was a, not in the force field is the right word, but there was a kind of protection over it and people, people got hurt, really hurt trying to get into it. So, and it's been, if you believe all the different reports of all the different documentaries we watched and all these different things, they've had, whether it was the one from Roswell,

if it was from these other things. They talk about that a lot in the George Knapp one. And it's also, should be noted, that George Knapp does that podcast with Jeremy Corbell, too. So that's something, I actually want to start listening to that podcast more. But, yeah, Rox, I think that that's really what it is.

It's the fact that they have probably been working on this thing for years, again, whether it's starting to, when you get more reports like this, it starts, my opinion is it starts to make Bob Lazar look a lot more credible. Yeah, I absolutely agree with you. And it is hard to know, like, what makes somebody credible, right? Like, when we're just combining stories for a second,

when we go back to Mark's friend for a minute, what makes somebody more or less credible if they're abducted? There's no, like, rap sheet that you could have that would make you more credible or not credible. Well, I don't know about that. As a human, yes, but not as a researcher. Well, well, you're a researcher, sure, and maybe this is not the point you're making, but like this guy, this doctor's, no offense, clearly more credible than his friend. Well, what I'm saying is that any human being could be abducted, not any human being could crack the whole code. Right, right, right, right.

So you have to have a level of clearance, credibility, government clearance, you know? So at that point, we are going to scrutinize looking into everything that they've done before, everything they've said before, what their history is. have they ever been caught in a lie? It matters so much more because they are claiming that they have UAPs, they have been able to reverse engineer them, and they cracked the hole, they broke the hole, whatever this hole is, and that takes a certain level of credibility for us to believe it. I tell you, when it crosses over into government

and not say what you will about our government or what you want to believe, but the process to get involved in these programs, I had a friend, a fraternity brother. He listed me as a reference. And the government called me to check. I mean, and the questions were hard. And this was just an entry level. I mean, it was just, you know, do you trust him with secrets?

I mean, would you trust this man to learn about government things? And would you feel safe knowing that he had these? But is he right in his mind, you know, those kind of things. Hard media is like, you got. Basically, you're not going to put this doctor in charge of these stuff. It's like we talked about with the nuke guys. You're not like the guys who have testified and said these things about the nuke stuff. Correct. It's a process to get involved in these things. And that's a layer of credibility that just I buy. And it's it's the same when the, they release the TikTok video. When this to me feels like another small peak behind the curtain.

Well, this is a, this is a kind of like the prequel to all that, right? Because this is, this is the, when you see what Lou Elizondo kind of helped, he was part of that program. This guy was part of that program that eventually what the new. New York Times was reporting on, and that led into, I feel like you're following this movie now that all these different pieces. It feels like it's a movie. I mean, the crack in the hole what came out of it, the thing? It's Indiana Jones for sure. Yeah. But look at the Grush stuff, right? Like, and you mentioned beforehand how, you know, there's, had they lied, have they done this, have they done that? Look what they tried to do to Grush with the fact that with, with, with, with, and admit he had already talked about. He, he was having PTSD and all these different things. Which is no reason to not trust anybody anymore. At all. At all. At all. That was

crazy and they really try to dig. And it went away, didn't it? Yeah. Nobody's even talking about that anymore because Grush has been on other things and Grush has becoming more and more credible and will lead into kind of the Burchett thing with the Schiff in just a moment. But I want to play the rest of that interview to see we can talk a little bit more about that, I mean, it's too fascinating of a story to just kind of cover the same. Can you go back and give us the exact terminology of the whole? That's the thing that I keep. He said the U.S. government has a UFO in our possession. Already, that's amazing, that he admitted that.

Then he says, we have an exploitation program to reverse engineer it. And then third, we breached the whole of that crap. Breached the whole of the crap. So like David Grush, he had to get special permission from the government about what he could and could not say. That's why he wasn't really elaborating much, but he was sticking just to those basic points. Right. Is that right? Yes, this is publicly admitted from a direct firsthand witness who ran the UFO program,

for our government, the one you learned about in 2017, and he made this admission on the record to me and George Knapp, and you can hear it for yourself. Really, it's almost mind-boggling right now. We have Arrow out there trying to research all of these cases when all along the way our government has in their possession at least one. We know it's more than that, but at least one, UFO. And they've been trying to reverse engineer it,

and they were able to penetrate into the center of it, I mean, that is, it's extraordinary. The way it's being treated is like the Flintstones to the Jetsons. People are like, you know, back in the dinosaur days trying to whitewash this to American public. If this is true, if what this rocket scientist to work on the UFO program says is true, then everybody's got to keep the pace and move up. All right. So that's amazing enough.

But like it's, that's nuts. It's like, and it's also, but I'm not surprised. And it's everything that they've been talking about. of these hearings. Yeah, this just further, like, when they ask Grush about, is there evidence? Is there, you know, knowledge of something, I'm paraphrasing, but they say, yes, they're, they've

retrieved something. They went even deeper. Yeah, they retrieved something and they breached the hole. One of my main questions for you guys on this, though, and something that I continue to ask myself, is when we hear that Grush get certain clearance, or when we hear that, specifically, you're

allowed to say breach the whole of the craft, right? Because the terminology that they're allowed to use is what's being cleared. Why are they getting that clearance for some of these things? Is it because they think that if they don't give them clearance, it will be a bigger issue? Or is it because they do want the public to slowly but surely be filled in on these things? It's a great question. It's such a great question. I was wondering the same thing. Yeah, the question is who's approving it? Right. The question is, is it someone approving it that is fighting the cause? Is it someone who's approving it, who's saying that going about it the right legal way and it's already out there. It's nothing I can do about it and exactly what you're talking about it. If I try to shut it down

at this point, the guy's talked about it and it'll look pretty weird if he just disappears. You know, like that type of stuff. Like that's, it's a great question. I don't know the answer to it, but what it does look like is that the more and more people are talking about it and the more and the more coverage it's getting. And listen, good on News Nation, man, because they've been covering it relentlessly. Yes. I understand why. Also, it's if you look at all the stories that a lot of the mainstream media covers, they cover the same thing. It doesn't get the hits that it does

because they're becoming the ones that are really taking this serious too. Get your niche, man, you know? It's getting your niche, but it's also they do, the same reporter was the one who was reporting in the George Knapp stuff. And so he's really kind of had his nose in it for a while now.

It's a very legitimate issue that they're covering and I think that they are doing it in such a great way and they're not covering ridiculous parts of the story. It's not like you can tell, okay, click bait. They're not adding to the tab. Yeah. They're not adding, they're adding to the investigation.

Right. They're adding to the question asking. They want the truth. They want the truth from it and they want it. They know how they're approaching it. That's where you're getting people like, again, George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, who are asking these questions. This is a major interview.

I mean, it's a major interview. It's not the one we're listening to, but the one that Jeremy Corbell got, the fact that they got this guy to talk about it. Now, this is not under oath, right? So the question is, if they get another hearing, they got to bring this guy in there. Yeah. They got to get them.

And then what is he allowed to say in the hearing versus in the skiff? Like that's also another confusing element of it. Right. Which we're going to talk about. We're going to talk about it. Well, at least in the hearing, he can say that and he can say it under oath in front of everybody. You would assume so. They breach the hole.

And that's in front of everybody because they feel like a lot of this information, if we go to your question, Roxy, like, why are they releasing this? You know, I like to think it's like slowly letting the world know that there's some, you know what out there. How many people are following this, though? I mean, it's like it's just not going to, if we get it to the hearing, we can maybe get it to, I always say, my parents. Yeah. And we're like, so outside of this. And understandably right now, it's not the number one story out there right now. No, because there's always a stigma from it becoming that.

Yeah, but there's also so many people that just kind of, I know, but it's also because of the war right now. And it's like the war itself is like, you know, that's, that is going to be. It's the only thing that's really... It really is. I mean, it really is where it's where you're like, okay, yeah, this is what should be covered. Yeah, as you guys know, it affects my entire family there. So, yeah, it's been definitely as much as UAPs take up a huge amount of my time. And same thing with News Nation, though, which they've done a great job covering over there as well.

Yeah, they have. And it's, of course, I mean, I'm watching all the coverage and I'm paying attention and everything going on. But I do think that that is what our government and what governments around the world continue to hope for. is distractions from the case. I'm not saying that any part of the war is happening because they're hoping that people don't find out about UAPs. But I will say that I do think that the government is always happy when people's eyes are averted away from things

that they're trying to hide. And so I do think, I do commend News Nation for continuing to be like, this is still a story that matters to people's lives. Of course. I'm sure that Hunter Biden is like, you know, looking at it going, the coverage is not on him. I'm sure Trump is also. the fact that coverage is not as much.

Now, they're both getting coverage, but it's still, you're right. It's like, it's any time, but in the case of this, sometimes, like I said, when the hearing was going on and when it wasn't the number one story at the time because of what was going on, it was silly. That was past nine, yeah. It was crazy.

This is, this is. Well, even that, the House of Representatives drama was more important than this stuff. But when there's stuff going on on, you know, on the news sometimes and they cover it for like an hour, I'm like, what are you doing? They should be covering this nonstop, nonstop as they are. Yeah, there are stories every week that continue to come out that, like you guys are saying,

unless it is at a major hearing. I was talking about the war, but yes, but this should be, have coverage and like they're doing on News Nation because the majority of it is, you know, the war. Yeah. And then there's these stories that have been popping up to give us kind of the news. Well, within these. The updates. Yeah.

These mainstream news channels, you know, they are covering around the clock, you know, the conflict. Like what's happening out there and filtered in as news of, you know, what's happening with our House of Representatives and all this stuff. And, you know, I feel like some of the stuff that is here could be put in there. Sure. Sure. Yeah, the News Nation is doing much. You're saying, Ross? No, I just completely agree with you guys. And I do think that going back to your point, Mark, that this is not relevant to your parents until it's something that's less, not a seven-minute YouTube hit, but under oath, this is what's happening.

And so hopefully we do get to that point. and hopefully he is called, but even if he is, the fact that now the last hearing was months ago and the skiff took as long as it did to hopefully, which we'll talk about that next story, come to pass. It is a little disheartening with how feet-draggy

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Info about to come to light. The government released its latest UFO report yesterday. Some key findings from the report, according to former Department of, defense official under President Barack Obama, some UAP has potentially exhibited concerning performance characteristics such as high-speed travel or unusual maneuverability. An arrow has de-conflicted these cases with potential U.S. programs. None of these UAP reports have been positively attributed to foreign activities. Well, according to News Nation, Washington correspondent Joe Khalil, there will be two members'

only briefings, including one with the Department of Defense Inspector General Robert P. Storch and another with Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Thomas A. Monheim. He continued, the Intel community, according to UAP UFO whistleblower David Grush, has specific info, Grush provided that he couldn't share publicly. News Nation has learned that Representative Tim Burchett and other lawmakers will soon gain access to the classified, sensitive, compartmentalized information facility room where they will be able to view UAP documents. Here's Tim Burchett with more on what may be expected.

Do you go into the skiff with David Grush or do you just go through the documents that he has assembled for you? I believe, first of all, we'll go through with the documents. That would be a secondary thing, which I understand is in the works as well. But from what I understand, there's a lot more than Grush out there. Dave's a buddy of mine, but there's a lot more than Grush out there that have this information, and we're going to get to it. And that's why people are very nervous, and they should be at the Pentagon. Because they've been covering this thing up since 1947.

a sudden, hey, 55% of America believes that there's something else out there. According to Mark von Rennonkamp, legislation titled the reverse engineering programs and offers legal amnesty if individuals with knowledge of materials come forward within six months. He tweeted extraordinary UFO legislation zeroes in on abuse of independent research and development, IRAD, provisions, to illegally hide UAP retrieval and reverse engineering programs from Congress. a historic congressional hearing, Grush specifically mentions IRAD. Is that a coincidence? Joining us now to discuss.

All right. So that is pretty crazy also. Yeah, for multiple different reasons. You know, I think that this will be huge, whatever their findings are. I wish that Burchett and Grush, because I've heard them both refer to each other as buddies at this point. And I think that that's not the best look for the public to think that all these people are, like chummy with each other because then sometimes you don't use a more discerning eye. But I think that...

Perchette does do that with everybody. I know. He does. He really does. And I also think it's challenging not to become buddies with people that you're passionate about the same thing as, you know. But in general, I think that finally they are getting more access. But whether we have access to that information that they find or not is still to be determined.

And it's like, I just want to seat at the table. I want to know what's going on. and it doesn't seem like there's every step that we take doesn't right now. It's like when do we get that access? When do we get to know? Well, I don't know if we're going to necessarily get the access, but I think, you know what you mean as far as like getting the information after what they're talking about. I think it comes out.

I mean, I think that there's like there's stuff that this is what he and I talk. But then it wouldn't be in a skiff. But wait, this is what he and I talked about. This is what he and I talked about last week because we're still at the time of this taping. we still don't have a speaker of the house, right? Yeah. So which is crazy. Could be you.

This won't go anywhere. At this point, what we were talking about at the time last week when Jim Jordan was still potentially, one of the things, regardless of the politics involved with some of these people that are running, two of the people that voted to get McCarthy out were Burchett and Gates, right? those are also two of the big proponents in the UAP stuff. They were also turned down for having a committee by McCarthy. McCarthy was I think he said at one point said something else. So, and again, not to...

Right, he said he was on vacation and didn't turn them down, but then it came out they did. It doesn't seem like McCarthy cares about this. He cared about it at all. So not to say that they ousted them because of that, but I'm saying I'm sure it didn't help. And whoever it might be, that is a Burchett and Gates ally,

might give them more resources. Now, I don't know, we don't know who the hell that could be. She is, there's like 75 people that are running right now. Yeah, although it does seem like Bertat is pretty well liked amongst his peers, oftentimes.

Yeah. Yeah. You could probably get it to... I mean, when it comes to this, for sure. And I do like the way he carries himself. I like the way he carries himself. Yeah, no, and I say that in a kind of ironic way, because, you know, I vote liberal,

but, you know, he is Republican, him, but I like the way he, you know, handles himself. Yeah. And that's what people don't realize. Yeah. You can be aligned with people. I'm more so, and I have no problem saying, I'm definitely an independent these days. And I think.

I'm registered, yeah, but I tend to vote liberal. And when it comes to it, it's like, I want to, I want people to be on, you know, definitely you always want people to have the same kind of. I want people to talk. I want people to talk and have questions and, and I want to be on the same page with people. I'm not always, clearly. It's just not the way the world works.

But it's okay to say, well, I don't believe that that person's on the red socks. I can understand what they're talking about. I can understand what they're talking about, but that doesn't happen all the time. Because he's like, well, wait a minute. If you're agreeing with that person, this is a one issue, though, that again, someone wrote last week, silly, very silly. They were like, the reason, and you see it all the time, the reason why this is happening is because the Democrats want to take, or they know, excuse me, they want to take attention away from the Trump stuff, the He didn't, He said they want to take attention away from the Trump stuff. And I was like, well, no, because not only are, you have the Republicans who are running this thing in general,

if the argument is well, they don't want you to think about that. Well, it's not being covered in all the mainstream stuff too. Are you talking about specifically the UAP hearings? Yeah. The UAP, just the subject matter, which again makes no sense. And if you're looking at it, and the fact that the Democrats and the Republicans are on the same page about this too, if it was a diversion tactic, you don't think AOC would go,

wait a minute, on Mouskowitz, we'd go, hold on a second, I know what you guys are trying to do here, they're on the same page. This is Mouskowitz doing this stuff where he's running the stuff. So I'm not telling you to believe in this stuff,

but when that to me, when you write an article, when you write a comment like that, you're not paying attention and it's silly. Well, this is definitely, regardless of your political party, it seems like there are people from all sides, all angles,

and from the furthest left to the furthest, Right. I mean, it doesn't get much further left than AOC. Right. Yeah. Yeah, and I definitely with current events that have been taking place, I think it's very important to be an independent thinker. Yeah. That your political party does not always align with your personal beliefs. And in this case, it's not one political party.

It's, it is people from all different paths that want to know what the F is out there. Yeah. It's not even, yeah, as we hear the first part of the video that we just listened to, it is alarming and concerning when you think about. about not to scare people, but what is going on with our planet today. And then you think about the fact that there might be things out there that are able to move in a way that we cannot explain. And you think what could those crafts do? Of course we need to look into this. Is this an issue of safety? Absolutely it is.

I'm not saying that's the first thing they wrote. I'm not saying it's the only issue. But right now, as we are watching what happens during a wartime, do we think it's not relevant to our planet, how some crafts in the air are? are able to move and disappear and switch directions. Of course, that's relevant to all of our safety and beings. And it is also the crazy, you understand more and more, as they start to reverse engineering again comes up in this report.

It's always going to. But I mean, that's the one funny. You understand how crazy it is, though, overall, where you get why they're trying to cover it up. Because, again, let's say hypothetically, 1940, was it, 46, or 47, right 47, when Roswell, let's say that that's when they got the first one. And then they've had, let's say they've had four. And they've been trying to crack it for years. And they actually cracked it, throwing out a number, let's say, 1995.

Okay. And they figured out. So since 95, some of the UAP stuff that you've been seeing in the sky was them. Is them. Let's just say a hypothetical. Yeah. I've had that thought many times. Them as in our government.

Our government. And let's say they figured it out. Private contractors. Yeah, they know how to. Somebody retrieved it and, I don't know. Tony Starked it. And again, not saying I believe any of this, because they, Tony Stark.

Yeah, I don't think that I did. I mean, yeah. But what I'm saying is, imagine this scenario where that is happening. And then they've been for like since 1995, zipping around these things. They found another one, whatever it is. And then they find, then it's like, well, someone's going to reveal this. And then we have to explain why we've been covering this up for over 30 years, almost 30 years. It's like, you know what I mean?

Like so you understand why they're trying to cover it up. But also, if they are attempting to reverse engineer it, it's for a plethora of reasons, one of those reasons being that they're probably trying to use that technology. Sure, of course. So in order to ever eventually use that technology, they're going to have to reveal it anyway. Right. Well, will they? Yes.

Why? If it's a, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it can bend time and space, as Grush says and, and it can do these types of things, because what would we ever know? Because what do you think they're going to use it for? I know, but how would we ever. know. They would need us to know because there are certain things that they're going to want to use it for that we would have to be aware of, right? Like what?

For example, time and space travel, right? That wouldn't be something that you think that they would want to keep that a secret? They figure out, they crack... Why would we have to know that? Because they want, because they want to make money off of it? Because they need the civilians to want to be interested in that in order to make it a viable

business opportunity. I don't think they're going to give a crap about the I don't think they're going to worry about the kind of ridiculous thing to say. You think that the government is going to have access to time and space travel and they're not going to share it with anybody. And I'm not talking about time and space. But what are they using it for? Listen, first of all, we don't even know what kind of time space dimensions and those types of things.

But I'm talking about the actually, let's say that this thing can potentially they figure out a way to teleport with these things or move in a different way. So you think to just members of the government are just going to keep teleporting and they're not going to ever share that? If they've been doing it since 1947, if they potentially happen. Just doing it for funsies? No, of course not, but it's like for things that they could potentially be doing. Look, the other side of it is, too. Let's say hypothetically, some of the technology that they have found over the years has been used without our knowledge anyway, like through iPhones and through computers and

computers. AI. To a certain extent, I agree with you, but I do believe if really these crafts are doing what people believe they are and we are reverse engineering that, I believe that we probably have some good intentions and some not good intentions. And I believe those not good intentions such as things like war are things that the public are going to eventually end up having to know about. Yeah, I just think that if it was run by the actual government, maybe, but this is one of the main thing that you're even talking about here with this side program. Yeah.

Of like whatever, whoever, they're not even funded by their government. They're funded through independent different programs that they're trying to figure out. They've been doing this shady stuff. Why would they want to tell people about it? Because they're going to want to reap the benefits. And they're not going to be able to say that teleportation is what's on the table. Let's just call it that for now. And they figure out this is how you teleport. You think that the, okay, that the 100 people who know about the teleportation are all going to be like, no, but I think they're going to make it seem like they come up with it on their own.

There's so many variables on this, right? I think they'll share it as a business, but they won't tell us how they got it. Exactly. I get what you're saying. That's what I'm saying like when it comes to like, again, like, hypo. I'm not saying that iPhones are alien technology. I'm just saying that if there were ways that to. hype up technology in a way that we, oh, we just advanced this by this one little piece.

It would have taken us 200 years to crack this. But we did it because we found this thing. Oh, I think that's absolutely possible. That's what I mean. I don't think that is what's going to happen, but it's definitely a possibility. It's more so, do I think that they are going to use this stuff, of course, but do I think that they're going to, you know, no, I think that if they're able to hide it, they will. Now, the question is, can they hide it? And I think that's what people like Burchett, crush, all these people are fighting against.

That's step one, I feel like. The answer has to be no. They cannot hide it for some time. We have to get to that point where we understand or get some knowledge. I mean, and I might be different here, but I don't need to know everything if it's stuff that they are working on that is like highly classified. Look, we want to get to the bottom of this. I mean, part of the thoughts when you guys are having this conversation was like they might have breached the hole and not gotten any further and have no idea to this day. You know, so they're not sharing it because they don't.

don't have something, they don't want to like, I don't know, there could be so many reasons why. I just want to first get past that. What do you know? Right. What do you have? I think that's very likely, Mark, because as you're, as we're listening to what they said, they got to the center of this craft. Right.

It's like, and they're already sharing that. The engine of the craft. Yeah. Like we got to the center. Does that mean you literally develop some kind of laser beam to find the center? What did you cut into? I know. You know, they finally just pulled out.

a saw. They got to the center and they're like, weird, a cotton ball, okay? I don't know what to do with this. Black goo. There's just so many, I just, again, it's the same conversation that we have every week, but it's like, I just wished it at some point, like, look, it's the jigsop.

It's like, let's just, it's time now that this hearing's coming. They got into this skiff, let's just, we'll say, look, we have been working on, we didn't think the public could handle it. Because you know why, lot of people are going to go to jail. That's the other thing.

A lot of people are going to go jail because they've been holding information. They have been using money on the outside programs. They've been doing all these different things that they shouldn't be doing. I mean, missing billions of dollars. There's going to be a scapegoat. There's going to be a patsy. And whoever it might be, don't think that right now there's not somebody that's lined up for that job. You know, there's someone right now that's like,

if it goes down, Ted. Meanwhile, Ted's eating a tuna sandwich has no idea what's going on. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's accurate. Right. Yeah.

Truly I do. 100%. No idea. It's going about his day. Oh, I got the best job in the world. He was hired to take the fall. And it's going to, poor Ted. Ted.

Poor Ted. Well, I hope not. Ted. He's not fit for prison. No. All right. So moving away from this particular story, though, but I will say that with the,

skiff, if it happens, we'll see if any more information comes out of it. Remember, the thing that people have been saying, whether it was Lou Alizondo, Jeremy Corbell, Ross Colhart, James Fox, they all have some kind of information, obviously, because they say that within, they've all said this, within the next year.

Yeah. Within the next six months to a year, a ton of information is going to come out. As you hear reports like this, it seems they're like, well, it's getting close. It seems like maybe they're right, but do you take any merit into this? Did they know? Yes.

I mean, you just brought it up so it makes me start thinking out loud. Do they feel like that it's just information that they know is going to be released, like a little nugget like that? Louis Alessando was pretty, and his tweet was kind of like, it's coming. There's this stuff that's going down. I think that there's a difference between information being out there for Burchett and a difference in information being out there for us. And I do think in the next year, people will be more privy to more information.

And I think that we will be privy to some of that information. They made the team rocks. So there's like, it's a lot of public stuff coming out too. Right. And I do think we'll be, I think we'll get some things. But are we going to get what our government officials are getting? Probably not. Because. And like Mark said, some people are going to be okay with that. Some people don't are like the classified stuff, the things that you guys are doing that

protect our country, that protect our planet. I don't need to know about that. I don't want to know about that. We all, as a civilian, a lot of us have the same questions. Is there life out there? Do you guys have proof of that? Are there UAPs in your possession that you don't know where they're coming from? And did they come with aliens inside?

What is it? What is it? So let me ask you this then. So I'm going to ask two questions here. One, is there going to be information in the next six months to a year that you go, wow, I'm satisfied with that information. that's crazy that that came out. You as in me or you as in the public? Here.

These people, the three of us sitting here right now, where we're talking about it and going, wow, that is made, that's the biggest information that, because Grush is one of the biggest stories, maybe ever. Right. Is there something bigger than Grush in the next six months to a year? It would, in the next year, for me to feel satisfied,

one of two stories would have to come out. Either definitive proof of them having UAPs or definitive proof of them having biologic. and if one of those two things is brought to the table with images, with DNA or whatever. That's what's going to get. So do you think we're going to get that? This is six months to a year?

I do not. Okay. Riley? That's good. I like that. Yeah, I think we'll get something, but it's more along the lines of,

I thought that they have something and they breach the hole. That's big for me. Yeah. That's big for me, too. As satisfied, though, I don't think I'll ever be satisfied because even if it's that, like hey we have. You wouldn't even be satisfied with that? Well, we have that.

Disatisfied is such, for me, it would be like, well, give me more. Like, you know, they're going to stop giving us. People got to stop texting me. I'm going to go, stop going. Yeah. Here's the image of the UAP. If they say finally, yes, we here is what Grush was talking about. This is it.

We don't know what the hell it is. I'd be pretty satisfied. If our president comes out and says, we have UAPs, I have seen them, and we have biologics that are not human. Right. Right. If that came out, I would be like, holy Hannah. That's a fantastic point, by the way.

If it gets to the place, because do I, I do think, as you've watched over the different reports of people talking about, how the president has not been kind of privyed into a lot of this stuff because they looked upon us, like hired guns by these people. But if we get to the place where it's like, no, look, Mr. President, we found concrete evidence, you need to have a- read this. You got a, we got to, CNN, Fox, MSNBC stops the, you know, if you're in the middle of eating dinner and this thing comes up and that is, you know, the president comes up and says that, that's major. Yeah, I'm feeling pretty good about that.

I'm satisfied with that closure. It's somewhat closure of the first part of this. That's the opening scene in a movie. Yeah. Right. Because then it's, you know. No. Yeah.

I don't, I don't, I don't either. I don't either. I don't either. But I do think that I think something big will come out. I think something big will come out in the next year. I do because even if we're getting stuck like little nuggets like this, something big. My second question, which I think is you're all going to answer the same way, because you both said no to it.

If you would have said yes, then I'd be more curious than your answer. But let's say five years for this one. In five years, will enough information come out to make someone like a DJ Woolridge go, I was wrong in five years. If you said 10, I would say yes. Okay. I'm not sure about five. But I do think in the next decade that right now that I think in these interviews they're saying the number is 55% of our country believes.

And I think that that number is going to get up to 75% in the next five years. And then I think it's going to be at like 95% in 10 years. Wow. What do you think, Riley? Yeah, I need to, it needs to go longer. even think that it's such a hard thing for some people that, even if it came out, I think there could be

people that just don't believe it. And won't believe it and won't believe it. I mean, 25% of people don't believe that the Holocaust happened. I know. I don't even know how... I don't say that to deviate, but just like... But that is a sick but sad point that that is true.

You know, they can't grab... Some people are not able, are not like seriously able to wrap their mind around something that is that in the ridiculous things that they can see. You can find it in a lot of different areas. The Holocaust deniers, you know. Flat earthers, the people that think

the moon landing. The school shooting is staged. You know, that kind of stuff. When you think of all the different, this, I feel, would be just another thing that could possibly get people to do. Nope. I don't know.

What's your answer to five years? I do think for five years. More people. I think I agree with you more. of what, off my own question, I think, more so of that the percentages of people who believe will go up in five years, I think. So you said it'll go up in, what, you said, 75 in five years? Yeah, but that, I think a little higher. I think a little higher. Could be. Yeah, because it's just because if we learned this much in a year. And this is right. And this is for the people that are really paying. I mean, look, as, and this is another thing I'd like to tell people that are finding this show for the first time or found it last week.

Because I wasn't very clear on it last week because I've been doing it every week. week and I didn't want people to kind of repurpose it, but I guess I have to. The way we're approaching this show is that because I saw people go, oh, you guys aren't like the experts? Never said that we were. Never said that we were. You're going to get people

that have been paying attention to this thing for 10, 15, 20 years. I've been curious about it. Riley's been curious about it. Roxy's been curious about it. We did a show together called Collider Live back in the day where when the New York Times article broke, we saw some of the footage. We talked about it for a couple of days, and then it was always in our head.

I found a documentary recently on National Geographic called UFOs Investigated the Unknown. I got fascinated by it. I watched it. I couldn't believe the entire, this was all the Lou Elizando stuff and all that. And then inside, and I didn't even know about the stuff that was going on with Grush. And then the Grush stuff happened. It was all just kind of coincidental. So we're approaching this kind of just like basically the percentage of people, that aren't really in tune with it right now that Roxy's talking about it, we added to that percentage kind of going up. Because that's how we approach the show.

I don't want people to think, like, oh, these guys have been locked into it. No, this is like the, just kind of the average, again, Schmo type of approach to it. I've already learned a lot from comments and just, you know, pointing me in the right direction on certain things. And that's what we're doing. We're just kind of like, you know, going to be talking about this out loud and throwing the thoughts out there. you're going to help with it. That's kind of, that's what we want to, we want to push it towards the people who don't know a lot about this stuff as well, too.

And clearly, want the people who do know a lot about it to watch and lend more of the insight on it. But please, like I said, and if we make a mistake, we'll come back the next day and talk about it. But like, you know, some people who are like, well, you're saying this and this and that. I'm like, give us some kind of learn all the names. I just learn, I mean, you know, learning stuff. I suck at news anyways.

But either way. It's a lot of different experts and then politicians. Right. It's a lot. Yeah. As it should be. And I found my... They all have the most dude names. And my brain got scrambled going into UFO Twitter.

I tell you, because it's... Well, speaking to which, Riley. There it is. Because it becomes a thing where you're like, is that real? Yeah, the only thing... I'm only going to do one or two of them, I think. What do you do? So we watch...

Well, Rox. Roxy, we watch one of these videos, and we talk about whether or not we think it's a real, fake, whatnot. Here is the first one. This is the Turkey Kumburgas UFO video from 2009. Dr. Roger Lear was president when the craft was filmed in this object,

one entity is visible. All right, here it is. Day before your birthday. Hey. That is it is. It's a zoom in. That is crazy zoomed. Crazy humming.

I can't really tell what that is, though, can you? I don't know. It looked like metal for sure, some kind of. It's a good zoom. Yeah. Does it zip off? Just like, when I look up in the sky and I see that kind of stuff, I always go, oh, that's a store.

I think it's a satellite. Oh, that, that, that is what, that first part of it. The thing is zipped off. Zoom into it like that. It doesn't look like metal to you? Yeah, it does. Yeah. It looks like UFO.

I mean, it looks like. It could be a satellite. though. It could be a satellite. Oh, look. It came back. Came back. Oh, the other one.

Yeah, that's the moon. No, that's the moon. The moon doesn't move like that, Riley. Move doesn't come in. It's hard to tell whether he's moving, though. Yeah. So that one, that one's pretty crazy. Pretty crazy.

Pretty crazy. This one is, do you think I think this is a drone or a UFO? They're following it. It depends on how it moves, right? I mean, it's just. moving so fast. I mean, but again, you know, you don't know from the video itself is moving that fast.

That's hard to say, though. But where is it? It could be a drone. Is it going through clouds? But look at the way it's shaped. Again, it's so hard because it's just such distorted video. What do you guys think? You know, without more angles and...

I have nothing. I would say it's a drone. Yeah, right. Correct. That's... Yeah, that's accurate. one. So this is it. This is an interesting. This is one I was talking about with the family. They're pretty scared with it. Now watch this.

Is it that little white dot? Yeah. What else is it? Oh, why is it glowing? But it's moving back and feeling bouncing around. Yeah, it's their hands aren't steady. Yeah, I can see it. Look at. Oh, oh.

Yeah. Music makes it epic. Yeah. What'd she say? I believe an alien's more than God. Dido did. Dido. Yeah. It came out of nowhere. This is a crazy one. It's very... So where is this?

This is... Sounds like it's an England or... People do it. Okay. Let's see. This one is... Sounded Scottish. It doesn't really say.

No, it doesn't say it says this is reactions of people filming this, it feels real and it seems scary. The only information it was filmed three months ago. It's very... It moves very similar like the one I saw. Yeah.

Without the... Just taking off. The reason I feel like of the... three of them, that one had me the most intrigued is because the way that it was moving both up and down and side to side and then zipping up. And also because of the glow around it and in the daytime, it's not what satellites look like or how they move. It's not what drones look like or how they move. So it's above the clouds. It just did not move like something that we've seen. But that doesn't mean I have any idea what it is.

Right. Of course. Unidentified. But that goes back to the whole basis of this conversation, the show in general is like, if there's any information that anybody has about it that they do know what it is, like what is it? Yeah. And I think that that's hopefully what we're going to start to get with all this information

coming out. But at some point somebody would be like, that's me flying my drone, right? Right. You would see that video and you'd be like, oh, that was my drone. That was my drone. Yeah, it's not. Or that again, it goes back to the secret programs or any of those. Right, any of those types of things.

So, all right, tons of stuff, guys, here today. We had a pretty great conversation about it. Always new information coming out. Thank you for checking out the show. The other thing I wanted to tell you about is, and I didn't get a chance to mention it up top, was the Patreon. Patreon.com slash the Big Thing show. We are actually doing a lot of great things.

At 600 patrons, Mike Kalinowski, if you know him, he's going to do stand-up comedy. He's a five-minute set. Are you being serious? Yeah. for for um if he if we get to 600 paid patrons he will do um stand of comedy for five minutes how's he going to do that or with work um at 1,000 we're um patrons we're going to get Winston to go to Halloween horror nights um we are going to do I think 1,200 patrons

Brett and I are going to sit in the front row of a Corey Feldman concert and then we are also going to do at 10,000 patrons is one of my favorite ones 10,000 patrons we are going to get Brett as the flirt and flouse to skydive in character with Jen Sturger, who will be at Jessica in character, not skydiving, but the whole way to where she's going to be wearing very interesting outfits is what she said. Her words not mine. Why don't you have a goal for me? You haven't been here yet. I want to get a goal for you. Oh, my God.

We'll do it. We'll do one for sure. For 20,000 Roxy gets abducted by a UFO. And then also at 10,000, I will, I'm going to put on a free-for-all at a live event. We'll figure it out. Shmode on, free-for-all. I'll do the whole thing, the bells, the whistles, all of it. But that patreon.com slash the big thing show, it helps out the show tremendously. But I'll tell you, if you can get that first leaf, man.

I'm going to keep your show in business. You got to do it. I know Roxy will get it as well, too. But Roxy, where can the people find you? Everywhere at Roxy Stryor. Mark, Yodius, Riley. Same on the internet, at Riley around. Thank you guys so much for tuning into this show.

And I really appreciate this one. Out of all the big things that we do, weekend and week out, this is the one that has been the biggest performer by far. People want to know. People want to know about it. What the hell's going on? They want to hear people talking about it. So Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found.

Thank you, Roxy. Thank you, Riley. thank you to all you guys. See on the flip side. Bye.