The Kristian Harloff Show - EXCLUSIVE! Christopher Nolan going back to Warner Bros?! Tenet Re-Release paves the way

Episode Date: January 24, 2024

Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow MAJOR SCOOP HERE! Jeff Sneider hot off his newsletter gives us the exclusive that Christopher Nolan is re-teaming with Warner Bros to rerelease Tenet  IMAX. What does this mean for overall future of Nolan and Warner Bros working together again after the major falling out that they had? Sneider talks about the chances. Sneider also hints tht Denzel Washington might be sniffing around a major franchise. Is it DC, Star Wars, Marvel? We talk Oscar snubs, Barbie, Margot Robbie Greta Gerwig and Oliver Stone's comments. This and more on this exciting episode of The Big Thing! #christopherNolan #nolan #wb #warnerbros #denzelwashington #marvel #starwars #DC #oscars #barbie  AG1: http://www.DrinkAG1.com/BigThing ROCKET MONEY: http://www.RocketMoney.com/BigThing TRADE COFFEE: Jumpstart this year by signing up for a Trade subscription. Right now, Trade is offering a free bag with select subscription plans when you visit http://www.drinktrade.com/bigthing SNEIDER NEWSLETTER: http://www.theinsneider.com OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-... FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls...

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing. Now, look, you know what's funny about this? You guys clicked on this video because you saw what the main title was. I don't even know what the main title is right now. I don't even know what the story is. All I know is I got Jeff Snyder here. This guy has been on almost every.

If you watch capes and cows, if you watch a lot of the stuff that we talk about, most of the stories today are Jeff Snyder says, Jeff Snyder says it's everyone. This guy is all on his own. He's not supported by any of the big trades. He's breaking stories before everybody else, and they hate him for it. But we don't. We love him for it. He's coming over here today, and he's going to be breaking a story.

You guys know what it is because you saw the headline and the thumbnail. I don't know what it is. But we're going to have a genuine, genuine, that's a word, reaction to that story whenever we find out what the hell it is. We're also going to talk about Jeff's newsletter. He's got a newsletter, and I'm also going to break his chops. So why hasn't this guy started a YouTube channel? Why? Makes no sense.

But we'll talk about that. talking about the Oscars, talk about those snubs that everyone's talking about, and then there's other stories. There's a strip of this Hallie Berry movie that apparently a shot for Netflix ain't happening. You know who broke that story? Jeff Snyder.

Talk to him about that also. There's other things to talk about, but we need you to do something first. Hit that button. You wandered over here because you saw somebody tweet it out after Jeff broke this story on our show. You're like, let me see this.

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Hit that button. Let's get to 200,000. We're at 120,000 already, guys. So, Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. You can find us on Patreon, all that stuff. It's a blast over here. Let's do it. We're going to have a show.

It's myself. Yes, Steph Sabra's here. What do you think I'm a moron? That and moron. You just answered yes. I heard you. Okay, thank you. Let's get to it.

Here's the show. I'm ready. What's up, everybody. You feel the excitement in the air. It is Wednesday. And I am with Steph Sabra. Hello. You're excited, too.

Yeah, I am. I have coffee, but I'm ready to sip the tea. You said to me today, as you're pulling up to the house, you said, do you know what it is? I said, I have no idea. No, I want to know. We have no idea what it is. All right. And what we're talking about, of course, is Scoops.

Well, I can't call him McGee. I think that's copyrighted. But I'll say Snyder Scoops himself, Jeff Snyder. Jeff Snyder! Hello Christian. And to Steph, this outfit makes me want to say, top of the morning to you. Top of the morning to you.

Step's prepared for everything, Jeff. I don't understand that. But I don't know if we're prepared for this. This is good stuff. You told me, you and I have been talking for a little bit. You came in here to the office. We sat down. We broke bread, if you will.

And we talked about just what you're doing in general. And that's, you're out on your own. You were working for an outlet. It didn't go great. It was going great. And then it didn't. But you do a great show with John Roca, the hot mic. Thank you.

Love that show. Do I sound okay? Yeah, are you not getting enough of mine? I feel like I sound reedy, but I don't know. No. You sound good. All right. You sound wonderful.

You sound wonderful. It's just my voice. I never have the headphones on on the podcast. So maybe I just don't know how I sound. It's alarming hearing, I mean, yourself talk. But you sound good. Thank you. And everyone's been covering you.

And look, this was something when we started doing, meet the movie press together back in the day. I said, you got to break scoops on the air. You got to break them on the air. At the time, you're working for a trade. You couldn't do it. But now you're doing it all the damn time. You do it on the hot mic. You get a lot of notice there. How do you like being on your own? It is terrifying. But I do, I like the freedom. I miss being part of a team. I always, like, I miss being part of a newsroom and just hearing all the phones ring and asking, hey, what did you watch last night?

Who are you going to lunch with? All that kind of stuff. And I wish that I could be part of a newsroom. Apparently, I'm not welcome in any of the newsrooms in Los Angeles because everybody's terrified of me. Why are they terrified? I mean, I'm a great, I'm a great coworker. I'm still friendly with people who I work with a variety and the rap and collider and all these places. But yeah, there's just this perception of me where it's like, you know, they don't want me in a newsroom. If you don't, if people don't know you and I, you and I did not start off as, as friends. We started off as the opposite. Sure. Enemies? Not on purpose. At the time, I was doing a, we had a website, Shmows, no. We broke a

bunch of stories. He was at a trade. I was a variety. Yeah. And Crowell and I would be like, who are these fucking schmose? They hated us because they thought we were in some basement in Cincinnati or something. Like, you know, like, how are these guys getting these scoops? And he just started blasting us on Twitter. And I was like, this guy, and I said,

let me go find that how this guy is. And he was a mutual friend of my friend, Toby. And Toby, I said, I said, send it, I said send a Facebook message to this guy. And tell him that we need to sit down. And we had pizza together. We had pizza together. That was it. And we became friends.

But people I can see, when it comes to Twitter still, I want to break your hands. I get it. It's like your Twitter. It's like put the phone down. And that's a lot of people. That's a lot of people. Right. Because you break so many great scoops and so many things and then you'll tweet something.

I'm like, what do you do? Do you think that has something to do with the trades? Also, they're worried about what you're going to say? Yes. They're worried about what I'm going to tweet. And I've always said, like, listen, if you don't, like, if you want to control my Twitter, buy the Twitter off. me or tell me I can't have it.

That's the thing. Every outlet still wants you to have the presence on social media. Well, it's like, okay, if I'm going to have the presence, I got to be me. Sure. Okay, I'm not going to, like, modulate myself to fit your social media regulations. So I'm sure that that is part of it. That I may be off putting on Twitter, but it's like as a reporter, I don't know. What happened to, like, these places want to hire the best reporters?

I'm one of the best reporters, and you're hiring inferior people who are just nice and safe and will say the right things. Well, but here's something that I saw yesterday. I think that this is maybe why I believe, and I've told you this, that I think you're supposed to be where you're at right now. Because I saw this thing, and we'll talk about this LA Times thing that happened yesterday, right?

And I saw somebody tweet something on. I said, you know, I'm just going to start doing YouTube, and I'm going to start doing movie reviews and movie news on YouTube and do that because it seems being independent is the safest way to go, right? When it comes to, maybe not with it. Safe in some respect, sure. If you build up a following on.

obviously, and that ain't easy to do. Right. Right. And so, but the difference, what I told you is, and people, and I've seen this, and I sent you the screenshot that I saw from somebody who wrote the very same thing, you've got so many of these breaking scoops and some of these stories that have you made your own YouTube channel and you got this out first, then put your newsletter out like you're going to do today. Your newsletter is going to be out first.

And if you subscribe to the newsletter, by the way, which I'll link in the description of this video, you will get these scoops first and then they break, like, then this story's going to break on share like 15 minutes later. But you'll get it on Jeff's stuff and you get all the news. But if you're doing it like also on YouTube channel, you're getting those things out and you're getting those because everybody's going to cover your stories anyway. Now listen, I get it. And I know obviously we're in, you know, Christian has a beautiful place here. And YouTube has been good to you. And that's what you're good at. Like you're great at this. You're natural. And maybe I'm good at it too. And maybe I would be really good at it. And I do plan to start something. But the truth is I'm a writer. Right. That's my gift. Sure. And,

you know, that's what I know how to do. So this stuff where you're working the board and camera angles and worrying about sound and all this. It's like, I don't want to have to worry about it. Most people don't do this. I've gotten so, I was terrible at it, by the way, when I started it's just now I'm just so comfortable with it. I don't even know if I could bring in someone a switch or someone else to if I'd be comfortable with it because I'm like, I have a method to my madness.

Right. You know what I mean? I think that's the next step for me. But what I really wanted to do was get this newsletter, like find a voice, find, you know, a format that kind of works for me. Now, I'm probably putting too much work into the newsletter and spending too much time on it because it's, and it's just too long. How's it doing?

It's doing very well. Oh, good. I mean, that's the thing. I've only started charging since the top of January. And it's been going great. Great. That's great. The question is whether it will, you know, keep going great.

I still, you know, so I'm probably like a quarter of my way to an annual goal, but for three weeks, that's pretty good. And what you need to do is, I think, exactly what you're doing here today. I think you need to be on more shows. I think you need to break more scoops on shows because you'll get people and you'll get the word out that you have this because I know him,

he's not lying. If his newsletter was doing terrible, when I asked him that question, he would have been like, terrible. I don't know why I'm doing this. I've been a little, I've almost like been surprised at kind of how well it's doing. It's a lot of friends and family and I get that kind of stuff.

For me, the next part is to send it to the town because I have not even done that outreach to like agents and, like, you know, the people who I talk to and deal with or who I'm calling scoops about, yeah, they'll hear about it. What, what is this for? It's actually not for now. It's for a newsletter. But I need to do those kind of mass emails because I think, I do think that people are enjoying it. I'm hearing from big people in town producers and agents being like, this is great.

This is what we're missing. Because they're covering you everywhere. Everywhere. I'm like, I'm not even joking. Like when we do capes and cows or we do these other things, and it's not just the geek stuff, it's a lot of these things. We're going to cover one of these stories in a second. but like a lot of times like Jeff Snyder says, Jeff Snyder did this and you're getting,

it's got to be pissing off the trades. I mean, I think it's definitely frustrating for them. I have been a little bit better behaved because, you know, I don't want to lose these relationships with the studios. So I have been holding stuff or agreeing to share more stuff. But it's also like you guys got to work with me here because I don't have a boss who you can call and you can't punish me because you don't

take ads out right now, right? So there's nothing that you can do to me except pull some invites to January, screenings. Right. But I wish you had. So it's like, guys, understand the model here. I need to break exclusive stories. So doing an even break with the trades where I go out to my however many, you know, subscriber

list and the trades go out to millions of people, my story just gets lost in the shuffle. Right. So I'd rather just say, you know what, I'll give, if I'm sharing something with the holly reporter, just give it to the holler reporter. Sure. And the next time I run into the hollow reporter, they better give it to me. Right. You know what I mean?

And that's, that comes from your experience of what you know what? working in these trades, you know how to play the game. Yes, and obviously, I'm friendly with Justin. I'm at Deadline. I'm friendly with Boris at Howard Reporter. There has to be a sort of, you know, there needs to be a little bit of a camaraderie ship. And I will say, like, I'm holding something huge with Boris. I wish I could break it on the show today. But Boris was so good to me.

Right, you don't want to step on his toes. He's been great to me these last few months. Just in terms of, like, giving me career advice and support and that kind of stuff, like, what am I going to do? Screw him over? Right. No. And he's, you know, so.

I do want to, you know, work with my colleagues, but at the same time you guys got to understand, you all make six-figure salaries. Right. I mean six figures one time in the last 20 years. Right. And you all get benefits. And I have basically not been paid like money since the last summer, basically, because that's when Patrick, you know, the strike happened and my old boss stopped paying. So, well, let me ask you a question. I got to make money.

So I've known you now for, it's a good 10 years. And I can tell when you're really excited about something, even though obviously this is something that, as you said, it's scary. It seems like you're pretty excited. It seems like you're like this is the most like kind of, you're not, you're not like kicking your feet. I got to freaking call somebody today. You seem like you're on the hunt.

I mean, I think when things are going well and then people are calling you and people are reading you, like, you know, it has been a good three weeks. And so I have felt like I'm more a part of the community. I mean, I felt very Disconnected and just, yeah, like Nobody cares. Nobody, I couldn't even get the trade. Like, the trades covered my boss

ripping off his last staff in 2016, but when he rips me off, didn't care. Didn't care. It's really shocking some of the behavior that I've seen from my trade colleagues, and that's why I'm so, I beat them up and I'm down on them. I also give them credit.

I also give them credit, but I'm telling you, they all work together now. I mean, when I was a trade reporter, we were at each other's throats. It was the Wild West, and it was deadline and variety and hollad reporter like scrapping with each other.

Now they're all part of the same company. And this company, and I like Jay Penske personally, but his HR department must have a note in my file because I can't even get interviews. And that's the most shocking thing, really, but just about the entertainment landscape

is who is in charge of the hiring? It's a bunch of older editors who don't know the landscape and like I can't put scoop in my resume. Well, let me tell you some. You know what I mean? You go into that, too.

I considered, because I was working, you know, Skybound and I had a nice salary and I was VP of development and doing all that stuff over there too. And then I left and I considered getting another gig. So I started applying places. I have a pretty good resume, you know, from working at Collider, from working on a Fandango, for working at Skybound for whatever it was. I couldn't get a phone call back from a lot of these places. And I've been, and I've had, and I'm like, you know what?

I'm just doing my own thing. And it is, it's liberating. It's liberating. It is. And it's like you have a chance to, because if you can, because you can build your own thing and you have an opportunity to build your own thing, you just got to get out of your own way when it comes to like the technology part of it and like those things. Right, I'm afraid to learn that.

You're afraid to learn it. And it's like, even when I was going through it with him like here, I was like, yeah, well, you know, you do this. He's like, I don't, I don't, I want to have somebody do that for me. And I was like, and I get it. Right. I just want to push a button and start talking. She gets an intern.

I should. Are you an LLC? You have to be, right? I'm not. That's a type thing you need. Okay, I have the question, though, because you said that you go into the offices now and a lot of people have this fear of you. Do you mind that? Or are you, would you rather be loved or do you, are you kind of, I kind of love it?

Everybody wants to be loved. It's about, it's certain people. I want to be feared a little by the town. I think having a little bit of fear behind you, you know, like, oh, if I don't answer this guy's call or return this guy's call, it's going to be online before I have a chance to comment. So I do want that, but I don't want publications to be afraid of me. Like, I was a nice Jewish boy intern at Variety, and I got to know all these reporters who have been, you know, gone everywhere. Pam Clintock went to Holland Reporter and Steve Zycheck went to Washington Post. And it's just like, I know all these people.

And I think that they respect my work, but they're also like, this kid's a hothead or whatever. He bites the hand that feeds me. He's too honest about Hollywood. And I guess that is something I had to figure out in my career is realizing that the studios are your advertisers. And yeah, you know, it's journalism, but it's also like this isn't, you know, politics. Like, ease up. Yeah, right. And you seem, and I will say, your Twitter has been better lately.

I made a real, I've made a real effort over the last few years. But every now and then, I regress, right? Because I do see red. I have a temper. And, you know, something like the Patrick thing happens. And it's like, okay, man, like, take 16 grand out of my pocket. Yeah, it is. That's different.

That's different. I don't post like agents emails. I'm not calling you a publicist when I lose. I've learned how to lose with a little bit more dignity. Yeah, but I'm just talking more so like the same thing, like the same thing like on certain things. Like if it's not, I'm going to give you the same advice that I gave Roka, that I give everybody that no one listens to me about. And that's post and run. Post and run.

Post your thing that you want. I know. Post and run. Don't give your opinions on certain things like, you know, who cares? Because certain things, well, don't say that. Say that. because I'm telling you for you it's hey guess what I got

look at Justin incoming two seconds later he gives a football opinion he's out right I mean like sure so I'm saying with what you're doing right now if you're crushing it right now you are absolutely crushing it

if you post and run I think you're going to see everything else skyrocket making sure my fucking tooth still there I mean listen there's no I mean yes Kroll avoids all the social media skirmishes and everything like that. And God bless him.

There's no good in it. There's no good in it. You're absolutely right. But at the same time, it's like I do have the social media following that I have. I mean, you know, him and Boris break more news than I do. But if you put their Twitter accounts together, I think mine's still bigger or whatever. And I don't care who cares about Twitter following numbers. It doesn't, you know, equate to real world dollars. Also three-time movie trivia show on Team Channel. That is true. I'd much rather be in, like, Crohnor Boris's position where you're under-contracted PMC and getting benefits and getting a healthy salary, but like, that is not my reality. And so I had to do something. It's like,

because I don't know what else I can do. I, like, filled out the Uber driver application and I was just like, shit, dude. That's not it. I can't do that. Nothing against that. For you, that's it. An Uber driver is my consigliary. Let me be very clear about that. Sure, sure. I'm sure. No, no, no. I understand what you're saying. When I say, when I say, that's not you. It's just, I just think that you've got something here. I'm right. I'm talented. And it's crazy that I can't catch Johnny or because I'm a good guy and a good team player. I'm telling you. And I've run two teams and my staffs like me.

Take that away. Take that away. I'm telling you. You don't need it. I know. Right. You've been forced out, I think, for, to do what you're supposed to do. So let's make the most of it.

Yeah, right. All right. So that being said, the newsletter is in the description. Go and check it out. Theinsn Snyder.com. Okay. Is that easy? It's that easy.

Theinsnider. It's that easy. So I put up the title there right now too. I put a link in the description as well. I'll throw a all of that because we're going to get to that scoop in just a second. You know, I'll do this first and then we'll talk about the Oscars. What I'm very excited about, and I've talked to you guys about it, it's Trade Coffee. I love Trade coffee.

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First things I want to talk about is this. Let's talk about the Oscars. We're not to get into all the nominations and all that stuff. I really want to start with the big old controversy. The big controversy, we're going to start with the fact that both Greta Gerwig and Margo Robbie did not get nominated for Barbie. Can you give you my take real quick on this?

Greta Gerwig should have been nominated. She should have been nominated. I think that at all the people when I was looking through, I was going through the list of the directors, I was like, and I also say, I'm not a massive fan of Barbie, but I was a massive fan of how that film was directed. And it was directed brilliantly of what she was able to do with that IP in general and the way that she moved things around from the shots in general, I really do think that to me

is the definition of a snub, but I understand how snubs happen. It's math. It's like, we don't know. It could have been by one vote. Could have been by two votes. But I was shocked. I looked at other directors and I go, hey, maybe it could have replaced that person there.

Now the opposite comes to me for best actress. There's no one on that list that I would take off if there's what there's five on there. Margarabi was six to me. She was six. There was no one on that. that list that I would have taken out over her. I thought she was great in the film, but people, I was talking to Coy and he's like, maybe, maybe, what's, what's the actress's name?

Annette Benning? No, no, Annette Penning was great, and I had it from, from Anatomy Rofal. Oh, Sandra Healer. Sondra Healer was one of the best performances I've seen in a very long time. That performance was, that was someone, I was like, whoa, if it wasn't for Carrie Mulligan and Emma Stone, she could win for sure. So I get it, but let me ask you, stuff. Where do you stand on the, do you think it's a controversy or you think like, yeah. Yeah, I think it's definitely a controversy, but I think it plays into the age-old discussion on when you're talking about Marvel movies that have broken the box office record and we're like, should they be nominated for Best Picture because of popularity? And I've always fallen on the

side of yes, because I do think popularity plays into how it is a social movement. And that matters in terms of a movie that does equate to some sort of goodness or brilliance in whatever terms you want to describe a movie. And Barbie, and Barbie is Margo Robbie. And so to me, obviously, the movie really affected me. I loved her performance. But they get nominated for Best Picture. Yeah, yeah.

No. Oh, yeah, for Best Picture. But so, but I think because of that, it's like you see a movie that gets nominated for Best Picture and usually they're in every other award. A lot of times. I mean, sometimes, but look at Top Gun. That's why I think. Yeah, yeah, like a Top Gun.

Yeah, like Top Gun. I think they're doing it. to get your opinion on the chef, but I think they are doing those big box office picks. And if you got a chance, you're going to put them in best picture because you're going to get more people to tune in. Just hope that maybe Barbie could pull it off, especially now after the controversy. But I don't know. I don't think that, I think that the Gerwig one was more of a surprise to me.

Where do you stand on it? I mean, I was surprised for sure, but I don't think it's a controversy. I mean, what part of it is controversial, right? Is it that the director of the biggest movie of the year always gets nominated and this time that they weren't? No. Right. The director of the biggest movie the year rarely gets nominated.

Is it that, you know, the director of the most acclaimed movie the year? It wasn't the most acclaimed movie of the year, you know? So I think that, I think that Gretager was fighting against the perception of Barbie. Barbie as a toy movie, as a movie designed to sell toys. And that's what she was up against. It's not like we don't want a woman in Best Director because there was a woman nominated for Best Director. And, well, and then a woman won last year, or was that two years ago? Chloe Joll.

I mean, they've been on a tear, Jane Campion. Right, right. You know, so it's like, I don't think that the academy is suddenly misogynist. I think this is just a lot of people love this movie, and they were bummed that, you know, it didn't get these big nominations that people were expecting, and suddenly the academy's at fault. That's just, that's not, if you're paying attention to the academy, it's becoming much more international, and that's how they got two international directors into the race. Where was Godzilla minus one? Got nominated for Best Visual Effects? I know, but I want it.

in Best Picture. And there's two movies I haven't seen, so I can't speak to Margot Robbie going up against all of the other actresses nominated. The ones that I have seen are spectacular, wouldn't take them out. And I don't think for me, at least, it's saying that the Academy is misogynistic.

I think this is classic. Any time there's the Oscars, everyone's going to be like, oh, I wish that was nominated. I wish she or he were nominated. This is just for me this year, that's what it was. Of course. Yeah, it makes sense. And look, and look at all the, and because the Golden Glover Lobe stuff and the way that both Greta Gerwig and Marga Robbie were like honored at the Critic's Choice like that was they were like it was might as well been their show like Chelsea

Handler did like a special thing like did they air that oh I like no no didn't air that didn't know I don't know I don't know maybe they did air she she just kind of made up a segment and she honored Greta Gerwig that's great I love Chelsea Hamerer I mean both of them were nominated yesterday so the whole like they were snubbed I mean they went to bed last night with Austrian nominees right I I think it was the contrast of Ryan Gosling, and that's where a lot of the conversation came up. And that's so unfair, though, to him, though, that people are, because he had a great performance. Oh, totally.

He's against a different pool of competitors. 100%, like, because there's, there's no one in there that I, I wouldn't take him out because I can't think of another performance. Well, did the kid from May December get nominated? No. No, he did. Or the kid from the holdovers, but Gosling isn't the one I would take out. Who would you take out in that area? I mean, Ruffalo was to me the last guy in.

He loved Ruffalo. You're crazy. I don't even want your scoop anymore. I do love Ruffalo. Get out of here. Oh, you're crazy. I loved that. Yeah, his performance was amazing.

He had my favorite quote of the year, I think. Did you want to watch that? He wasn't about horses. The thing about Margo, again, when everyone's like, well, the Academy and Hollywood missed the point of Barbie. Actually, they didn't. They got the point, and they got it two years ago when they greenlit the movies, you know, that are in the race now. And that is why Margo didn't get in because suddenly there's all these great roles written for women. And that's why she didn't get in because there were so many, you know?

Yeah, it's interesting. But I'm curious what you guys are. There is an irony in it. Yeah. There is an irony. For sure. I'm not saying it means it's fact. I'm just saying there is an irony in it.

There absolutely is. And I think that like, and it kind of brings back what you said before about how Barbie was going against like the stigma. And I don't need to go through the picture, everything, too. There's a story that I read this morning about Oliver Stone. Did you see this? Yeah.

So Oliver Stone, before the movie came out, he was promoting one of his docs, and he said something along the lines, and correct me if I'm wrong, but he said something like, I don't know where Ryan Gosling's doing that piece of shit. Yeah, it's a waste of time. It's a waste of time.

I don't know why he would be doing something like a Barbie movie. And he got, and it kind of fell to the wayside, but a lot of people didn't see it. And then, because of the nominations, everything to do it, came back up, and he then, and he then said, I made those comments before I saw the movie.

It was wrong of me to make those comments. I saw the film. I thought what Greta Garwig did with the movie was incredible, and I apologize for my ignorant comments. I don't know the response that he got afterwards. First of all, I don't think he should have said in the first place without seeing the movie. It's ultimately what he said.

It told me what he said. But I felt that was the one, because you see these apologies that people put out some, times when they're public system, it was you've got to make an apology. And it just feels so fake. I was like, good on him. It felt real. It felt like, he's like, he's like, look, I'm sorry I was so ignorant.

It was a stupid comment. I'm sorry I made it. I shouldn't have made it before seeing the movie. Again, shouldn't have made the comment. Right. But I like that. I did too. I think it's such an easy movie to hate on, which is what I'm seeing in the comments of a lot

of these outlets posting about Barbie and whether it got snubbed or not. 75% of them are like Screw Barbie Which has been the over like a lot of the masses Speaking to it just and I think most of them Hadn't seen it right a lot of them hadn't seen it and that's just an easy movie to Dunk on for sure but they're laughing all the way to the bank Yeah exactly yeah it's an iconic movie

I will push back and get something you said though on hot mic Because you don't care about the fantasy movies and those things too I love the idea that Greta Gerwig is doing nornia I love it Hopefully she makes it better. That is wild. I love it. I think she's going to make it better.

Like campier. Oh, I'm sure that she will make it better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just think there's a lot of projects out there that she could do instead. Yeah, I get it. I understand that. It's a pre-barby success decision. Was there anything else?

So, because the one thing about Godzilla minus one, though, I was hoping it was going to get nominated for, like, best in foreign film. Oh, got, no. Yeah, I know. Well, they didn't submit it. Okay. Yeah. then it didn't get nominated for sound either, right? You got nominated for Best Visual Effects.

Because I thought the sound was incredible in that movie. Did you see Godzilla minus one? Yeah, I liked it. I liked it. I loved it. I didn't love it, but I liked it a lot. I loved it. Are you going to see it in black and white IMAX? So someone asked me that the other day, and I said, I am so happy for people who care

about that. I just, I don't care. I don't care about, but I mean, I missed the IMAX run. Well, if you can see it in an IMAX any way you can. Right. I'm going to see, I'm actually going to see Dune, the first one in IMAX tonight, because I have not seen it. In IMAX? Yeah, I've not seen it.

I love that movie. Yeah. Anyway, so I'm trying to think if there's anything else as far as the Oscars go. Were there any big major surprises? Not really. That was the biggest thing. Everyone else pretty much got nominated. The big surprise was a Barbie thing.

It was America Frere getting in. Oh, okay. I thought that was a big surprise. And she gets in because she delivered that monologue, right? And if Margo had delivered that monologue as Barbie, Margo gets in. It's as simple as that. That monologue is gold.

Well written, yeah. Did that get nominated for a screenplay? It did. And I think that Barbie could be rewarded after all this, you know, snub talk and that kind of stuff. Oppenheimer is the favorite and American fiction is in that category as well. But I think Barbie could pull off an upset there. Who wins best pitcher, Oppenheimer?

I mean, you know, a gun to my head. Sure, Oppenheimer, that's the heavy favorite. But I still think that the holdovers has a chance. Really? I do. Especially if everyone is assuming, Ah, Oppenheimer, that's going to win. Everyone's voting for Oppenheim, I'm going to vote for something else.

If everyone thinks that, if enough people think that. Okay. What do you guys think? Is this a snub? Is it a big snub? Did you think that it was warranted the backlash and the cries on social media? How do you feel about it? What say you?

All right, let's do this. Guys, it's that time. I want to tell you, I am very excited because Jeff and I talked last week, and he's like, look, I want to come in and I'd love to talk about the newsletter. I'd love to have you come talk about the newsletter. And he said, I got, and I'll have a story. And he started looking at see this one particular thing. He's like, I don't have it yet, but I should soon. So he called me yesterday, and he said, I got it.

So you want to talk about it on the show? He said, let's do it. Jeff, the floor is yours, my man. What do you got? Okay. So this just hit on my newsletter. You can read the full story, the Insider. com, although this

may even be the better version. So this is an exclusive, or should I call it, an evisulcuxe. What's that? That is exclusive, spelled backwards, my friend. And that is because the news is that Christopher

Nolan and Warner Brothers are reuniting for a tenant re-release in support of Dune Part 2. Okay. So Tenet will be coming to IMAX premium 70 millimeter theaters, all that stuff on February 23rd, I believe, which is the week before Dune 2 comes out. Okay.

Now, on the surface, Christopher Nolan, Warner Bros. re-releasing Tenet, not a huge story, maybe. But look deeper. Why now? What is this all about? So let me break it down. The first and foremost, I'm told that this was Christopher Nolan's idea. why because he wants to support his buddy dene so when dune first came out

Christopher Nolan actually led a a DGA director's cut podcast with him and they talked about Dune and everything so I think that these guys are pretty close and they really respect what the other one is doing I mean who's making movies on a scale like that besides James Cameron really right so these guys are friends and Nolan wanted to

sort of stump for him and they thought yeah You know, Tenet also got screwed. Right? That's why Warner Brothers was also receptive to it because they're like, okay, this could, we see the benefits in this for Dune 2. And I don't know if they're going to be showing some maybe exclusive Dune 2 footage ahead of, you know, in front of Tenton.

So they're sort of hyping up the release of Dune. I don't know what that arrangement is. And I'll talk about that in a second. But for Warner Brothers, it was like this movie got screwed. We released it in the middle of the pandemic. It didn't get put on the IMAX 70 millimeter screens and all that kind of stuff. stuff. We feel like we left money on the table. So, you know, there's a financial incentive for them as well. But all obviously, and this is, you know, the part that they don't really want

me talking about, but it's like they're doing this to get back in with Chris Nolan and setting him up for a return. I mean, this is how likely is that? This is how it starts. I think it's pretty likely. And I think that a move like this makes it even more likely, okay? Because it's one thing to cut Oppenheimer and do the post-production on the Warner

Brothers lot. Right? You're still making a movie for another studio. With this one, it's like,

okay, Jason Kyler and that regime kind of, you know, botched this. Let's, you know, see what David's

Zeyeslap's is all about. And so I just think that the door is now open in at least a few more inches than it was this morning.

But Universal's not going to let him go. What kind of contract does he have? Oh, it's a one. It's a one-off. So Christopher Nolan, I'll be clear, is a free agent right now. So he doesn't have a contract with Universal. No. Okay. Every studio wants to be in business with Christopher Nolan and Christopher Nolan has not decided what his next movie is going to be or where he's going to make it. Okay. But so this is the pitch. This is the winner. Exactly. It's come back. You know, we're going to put your movie back in IMAX 70 Miller. The way the movie was meant to be seen, right? Because that's what Chris Nolan's all about. And so I think that this is the, um, a good. first step, you know, in resuscitating that relationship. So I thought that was big enough

to bust it out here on the podcast because I just think it's going to get people talking like, is he coming back? Well, I already see the headline for us. And it's the exclusive is Christopher Nolan going back to Warner Bros. I mean, that's the big story because it seems like that is when, because I said, when you said it, I was like, well, Universal's not going to let him go. And you're like, no, he doesn't have a contract with them. So to me, Steph, that seems like, I don't know they they love him at Warner Brothers and they were probably that was probably one of the biggest devastating blows when he left so what do you think about this? Yeah, I think that Christopher Nolan everyone is has been obsessed with him but I feel like even more so coming off this Oppenheimer run. And so this will be pretty big because I I've always been a fan of him but more than ever I think now I'm like what's his next movie?

I'm so excited for that. I mean, so what do you think? So give me your percentage. Jeff, that Christopher Nolan returns to Warner Brothers. And if so, give me after your percentage, what do they sign them of our contract? Do you think they're going to sign them for a one-off? I don't know.

I mean, has he done overall deals before with some copy? I thought he had an overall deal with Warner Brothers in the first place. I thought that that's why it. For the trilogy? Well, I thought with the trilogy and everything, he was making movies there. And then once his contract was done, he's like, I'm out.

I'm going to universal because I didn't like the way they handled tenant. I don't know if that was about a, a contract expiration. I might be wrong. I could be wrong. You know, I'm not entirely sure. But, yeah,

obviously, Donna's going to do everything in her power to hang on to him. And I think that if you're Christopher Nolan, there's two things. This is a studio that got Oppenheimer, a three-hour biopic,

a physicist to $950 million worldwide. That's impressive. Oh, yeah, definitely. And it also looks like Universal is going to be delivering an Oscar and possibly two Oscars

to Christopher Nolan that eluded him at Warner Brothers. These are the Oscars. Warner Brothers could never deliver him. So it's also got to be like a superstition thing for him because if you're sitting there talking to Emma Thomas and you're like, okay, well, they're offering us this deal to come back and do this. But we left and it really did us well.

You know, even his tenant, regardless of the circumstances, probably his least successful movie, right? I know I had a lot of reasons why. Right, exactly. But I still don't think quality-wise a movie, like it for audience wise they didn't respond to it the way they responded to Oppenheimer they didn't respond to it the way that they responded to inception or interstellar any of those two so it doesn't matter who made it you know unless I don't know maybe there are different circumstances

that universal that a different movie would have been made I don't know right I mean I don't think that you know at the end of day he wrote the movie right you know Warner Brothers just released it and and I think Chris was the one who wanted it out wasn't he wasn't he was the one kind of pushing for it but I also think that I don't know how many people maybe didn't respond to it because they just watched it at home in their living room You know like I saw that movie wearing a raincoat and latex gloves

I mean we were all so scared to go back to the theater And I think that that does impact you know if you see that movie with a crowd And people are getting into it maybe it's different Yeah, it's a good point It's a real good point You think it will be received differently I mean I think everyone who wants to see tenant or loves Chris for Nolan has seen that movie by now

And they're probably you know I don't think an I'm next re-release is going to necessarily change their opinion on the movie. But like you said, it's not about that. Yeah, exactly. And I'm sure that there will be people who have never saw Tenet and are going to see it, you know, for the first time next month in theaters. Yeah. See, that to me is, that's the story.

The story is exactly what you just said. The story is Warner Brothers said, hey, Nolan wants to re-release Tenet. We're going to do it. We're going to give him all the bells and whistles. We're going to do whatever hell he wants. It'll help him out Dune. He wants to help out the need for sure. And then we're going to have a meeting with him.

David's going to sit down with him, talk to him. we're going to get his next movie. He's feeling confident. I see that this is probably the road. I mean, when Zazlav came in, he's got a list of priorities. Now, whether they're on it or not, I mean, he's come in, he got Leonardo de Capriam movie. He's coming. He's signed Tom Cruise. The next is we want to bring back Christopher Nolan and fix that relationship. And the other one is we got to fix Harry Potter. Those are like, and Superman, obviously, what she did by hiring James Gunn. So it's like, those are the things. We need movie stars. We need to fix Superman, fix Harry Potter, and then we want Chris Nolan back.

And it looks like it is. So there you go, guys. What do you think? You think Christopher Nolan is going to go back to Warner Brothers? How do you like this play by Warner Brothers to re-release Tenant in order to be in the good graces, promote Dune, what say you? Again, you want to read the full story. Go to the Insider.com and check it out. All right.

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Most recently, Coyote v. Acme with the plan that they changed to allow the filmmakers to shop it around. Now, however, a streaming service is getting in on the vaulting trend. It seems the Insnyder was reporting that Netflix has scrapped its sci-fi thriller, The Mothership starring Halle Berry. See, that's a good news too, Jeff. They're now reporting that the In Snyder is reporting, not just your name. That's great. The report indicates that the project completed filming over two years ago, but the studio now plans to never release the film. However, the reasoning this time actually has more justification than just a tax write-off. The report indicates that the film would require significant reshoots that weren't only expensive,

but also impractical. Many of the other key characters are kids. The young actors have grown up a lot since the film started, excuse me, since the film rat. In addition, Snyder indicates that there were extensive days in completing post-production, which impacted the decision. All right, so Jeff, break this down a little bit more. What did you hear about this thing? And was it any good or not really?

Oh, I have no idea about the quality. I mean, we can only speculate. Right. We can only speculate. If it was good, why they would try to move hell out. Yeah, probably. But again, I do think that this was like, you know, partially a victim of the pandemic and partially a victim of the strikes.

Sure. You know, if they could have gotten this, done the reshoots that they needed to do on this movie, you know, last spring, maybe it stands a better chance of actually, you know, getting to be completed. But as it stood, there were just so many post-production delays. and it's been two years since they were at filming or whatever, the kids have shot up, right?

I mean, how do even do reshoots at that point? I did hear that the reshoots, you know, were going to be a little not only expensive, where it's like, you know, why are we putting more money into this than we're comfortable with? But, like, difficult to schedule with Halley's schedule and everything. So I think the decision was just made. It's just simpler to pull the plug and walk away from this.

This one makes way more sense than the back girl thing. I mean, I understand the back girl thing for sure, but this makes more sense. Do you agree with this stuff? Yeah, for sure. This seems like a straight to VOD type movie. Back girl seems like, oh, that could have been in the theaters. Yeah, but I also think just because of the fact.

The IP. Yeah, but I also think just because you have this, like he said, you get to a place, you're like, well, what can we, if we shoot with a 13-year-old kid when they're supposed to be eight years old or whatever, whatever it is. Right. It looks bizarre. And it's like, there are times in Harry Potter, the first one that you can tell that he jumps, but that's only me, like, looking with Benoffice.

Yeah. I think it made sense from like a business perspective. And that's the thing. Like even when they threw back girl and scoop in the trash, like I understand from why David Zazlov had to do that. I understand that they're not popular moves. But from a business point of view, I respected it.

This one makes even more sense. But again, the optics are bad. This is an Oscar winning actress, right? A woman of color. Right. Another movie with, and here's the other thing.

We're all talking about, you know, we can speculate about, the movie and maybe it's a straight to VOD thing, look at the mother with Jennifer Lopez, one of Netflix's biggest movies last year. This could have just been another movie like that, and a lot of people would watch it because Hallie Berry's in it, so. But they didn't want to spend the extra money on the reshoots and stuff.

Right, exactly. Because they could have, what they could have done is they could have just said, all right, well, let's rewrite, let's just reshoot the stuff when the kids are too young and basically, they basically have to shoot the whole movie. Exactly. And so they're like, yeah, and what happened, again, look at the timing of everything. Stuber steps down, you know, then they, they in a, announce Raw the next morning.

So it's like they're not trying to, you know, jeze up spend more money on these big budget movies, especially if it's not, you know, they don't think it's going to be a hit. What do you guys think about that stuff? Did you hear, you know, that Monday Night Raw, WWE is now going to be on Netflix? No. Yeah. That's like that they, it's a huge deal.

Yeah. They've been on USA for years or whatever they're on now. I mean, and then they were on, I know that they haven't moved Smackdown. Smackdown's still on Fox. But they moved Monday Night Raw, which is like their flagship show. And then the other news is that Dwayne Johnson is now like one of the board members of WWV now. That came out of nowhere. Did you know that was coming?

No. No, I mean, Roka was geeking out about it yesterday. I had to be like, calm down, buddy. Yeah. But it's, I mean, they can say all they want to Wall Street and investors that they're not changing the strategy on original movies. But I think it's pretty clear that they're not going to be making a bunch of big giant movies. They're going to try to do, you know, work in that mid-budget space. I mean, they have not, you know, when you look at just Stuber,

He had seven years and billions of dollars. They didn't win a Best Picture Award. They're not going to this year. And they really have not made a single movie that penetrated the culture. Right. I can't name one. Yeah. And I looked.

And you looked. But I think that, yeah, that move, though, by the way, the WW move to me, I think, is a very, very smart move. Live sports. That's what that's what it's in. The mothership one seems like it was legitimate reshoot. Yeah. Whereas sometimes I feel like people throw out reshoots and it's just a really, it's the most used excuse oftentimes. Right.

But I will say Netflix original movies, I actually really like a lot of them. Like extraction and Adam Project and the old guard. Those were really, that's the kind of thing that may, I'm like, oh, this subscription's worth it when they weren't doing. I feel like there was kind of like this dead period for a little bit. But then now they're having like all these new animas. they're making a lot of different business moves. They have a few, like, hit shows that you stick around for, or if you're a documentary nut, then, then that's the perfect thing.

The shows have, you know, permeated the culture. Like, the shows have broken through. Yeah. Right. The movies have not. No, they tried to do a maestro, obviously. Yeah, but that's not like penetrating the culture, right? Yeah, for sure.

But I'm just movies. They have movies that hit, but they don't have movies that just like, well, that was a Netflix movie. Like they did, they tried with the Irishman, you know? Right. And that didn't really. I think they're really great streaming movies. Yeah, they're watchable. They make, I mean, they're designed to make watchable entertainment.

Oh, sorry. I just, as I said Irishman, no one has any information on this movie. And I don't know if you do. Do you know anything about Alto Nights? I mean, I've heard it has test screen and not well. Oh, I hate that news. I hate that news. I hate that news.

Because I, Roke and I were going over, like, the movies that are coming out this year. And I was like, what's that? It's a mafia movie with, like, with, it's Sonnafeld, right? Levinson. Levinson. Levinson. I can always say Sanoffield. Levinson.

Uh, and Levinson is directing Robert De Niro and Catherine Narducci, who were teaming from like Bronx Tale and, you know, she's great. Catherine Dernuchy was also in like the sopranos and everything. But I was like, what's this movie? And you hear it's not testing well? I hate that. I mean, you know, that's from Jordan Rumi's sources over at the World of Real. I haven't talked to anybody who's seen it, but you know, it's Azlav's first gamble.

He's, and it's just like, of course, like an old guy comes into the studio. He's like, all right, I get to do whatever I want. Give me a Robert De Niro, gangster movie. Right. It's like, yeah, I don't know. That time may have come and gone, but I'll say. You're still going to get morons like me getting excited about it. I'm excited too.

It's De Niro, especially I'll have an Oscar nomination, but, you know, it's $75 million. Yeah. All right, we can, we can shift on. Is there anything? Are you holding this? You sniffing around Marvel, Star Wars, anything going on? I'm always. I'm always, you know, you always got to keep an eye out for me on some of those franchises,

but nothing, nothing too big that I can share. Other than, you know, I did, I thought that, uh, that story about John Boyega, starring in the book of Eli prequel. Yeah, right. It's like if he can play a young Denzel, can Denzel play an older John Boyega? What do you mean? I mean, you know, if they ever revisit that character down the line and make an older Finn.

I mean, I don't know. Are you sniffing around? I just, I wonder. Where's that come from? Is that a guess? Is that a guess? Yeah. Listen, there are no plans right now for the...

Denzel and Star Wars? There's no movie. There's no movie yet. But who knows? I'll put it this way. I think that Denzel is going to join something big soon. I could see him joining a big universe, whether that's Marvel or DC or Star Wars. I see Denzel making a move.

And you know what? makes me think that, again, this is a guy who never did sequels and stuff like that. All of a sudden, he's got an Equalizer trilogy. He's in Gladiator 2. Right. I think he's warming up to, you know, that kind of stuff. You get to that point, right? Look at Harrison Ford.

Harrison Ford's doing everything. I didn't read the story on it, but is Air Force won the Part 2? Is that actually a thing? Or did they say, no, it's not going to happen? Oh, I have not heard that. I saw some article on it. I don't know if it's, but all I'm saying is Harrison Ford is at this point. He's like, I'll do it all.

You know, fine, what else? Number five, number five, number six, who cares? Same, like, Denzel's like, all, yeah, let's just, so you're, you're thinking. Well, here's what I've heard. It's that Denzel, I don't think, and I think someone said this. I think it was Spike Lee, maybe who said this, that Denzel is, like, done directing. He doesn't want to direct anymore. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot.

You want to collect some checks. Yeah, maybe. So, so, all right, percentage on what you, the percentage on Denzel showing up on one of these big franchise. Okay, I'll go DC 10%. Okay. Star Wars 35% Right

That's 4% 55% 55% Marvels Wow Okay So there you go Look at that So that's

I think we got two scoops Here today I don't know that this is a scoop I just You know people are going to report on that one Keep an eye on Denzel He's making moves You know that I can already see

I love comic book movie That's going to be one of the ones Like comic movie goes with The thing is like The movies that Denzel Would have done Instead of those movies, they're not making them.

He's not getting with Mark Wahlberg making like two guns, you know, stuff like that anymore. Right. So he knows, he's a smart guy. It's come be the Robert Redford of whatever Marvel movie, you know? I think that's what we're looking at is in the next iteration. I love that journey. And I like that coy smile on your face as you say it too. All right.

All right. This is something I'm sure Snyder had something to do with or at least knows a lot about. I don't know if you had anything to do with this. But David Fincher and Netflix have extended their deal. and the Fame 7 and the game filmmaker confirmed his contract with Netflix and it has been re-up for another three years. Fincher revealed the news during an interview

with Premier Magazine. Sorry, Jeff, not this one. It continues a relationship that Fincher began with Netflix that started with the House of Cards remake in 2013 when he produced it and directed two episodes of it. Having worked at Fox, Sony, Paramount, Warner's, and Polygram on his past films, 2014's Gone Girl, marked the last time he worked outside of the streamer.

Since then, he created and produced the series Mind Hunter, Love, Death, and Robots for the streamer, along with the film's Mank and Last Year's The Killer. So, why does he keep coming back? Simple. He's got creative control. I don't feel like I'm deviating from my previous approach from working with Netflix. I make them take the same type of risk that I have made others take in the past. Fight Club was a huge risk. People lost their jobs because they agreed to produce this film. Benjamin Button, people at the studio would read the script and go, oh, this movie will be like a big comfort. I clarified yes a big comforting hug about death. He goes on to explain how the uncompromised and risk embracing approach from him is what ultimately led to the end of Mind Hunter after two seasons and Fincher understands the decision behind it. There's a lot more there too but I think that overall this makes a ton of sense. I mean

did you see the killer Steph? No. No. Was Fastbender. Did you like the killer? I really liked it. In fact it was the movie I saw more than any other last year along with Blackberry. Is that your favorite comic book? movie in the last like uh well i i i guess yeah i don't i guess i don't think of it like that but it's it's one of them sure i thought i really like the episodic structure and um and fastbender was great and yeah i tell this one was is it scary no okay it's not scary it's it's a it's intense i don't mind it's cerebral too yeah but it's like it's a slow burn but it's it's i love michael fastbender i don't know why i haven't i i liked it i didn't love it as much as chef but i like it

yeah i like i love reacher by the i haven't heard anyone's say I hate it or don't like it. No. It's, it's, it's, I mean, it's Fincher. Right, right. If you're Netflix, as we were just talking about, no-brainer. Of course, you get Fincher. If your Fincher seems like no-brainer, you do because of exactly what.

Is this a surprise to you at all that he would go up, read up that deal? No, not at all. I mean, you know, the reason that he's there is because they leave him alone. You know, and that's why when they're like, okay, David, we can't keep doing mind hunter at this number. And David's like, well, listen, this is the number. either, you know, want to do it at this number or we don't do it. And that's fine. You know, he's comfortable walking away. I like that he doesn't compromise. He's not going to change the show.

No, but he also doesn't take it personally and walk away from Netflix. Right. He understands it's a business. He's not trying to lose more money and lose, cost more people, their jobs. He's, he's been through that, you know, but that's sometimes what it takes to make a great piece of art. I, you know, I think he really likes working there. He likes being able to do film and television, you know, and I think that he's working on some innovative stuff. I mean, I've heard, I heard rumors about something. I'm not, I don't want to say the title. This would be a betrayal of confidence, but like the show would have footnotes. Like, you know, what show has footnotes? Like, but Netflix can do that because it's interactive and stuff like that. And I still

think that he's, I still quietly hear that he is quietly developing a squid game remake. Oh, really? Okay. He has not talked about it. and I don't think anybody has asked him about it. I don't understand why, but I hear that's very real. That's pretty awesome to see him potentially do that. But is that one of those things where we heard so many different times that there's going to be like a raid remake and that never happened? And like those types of things, a lot of different people say, well, he wants to do it though,

but then that's season two coming out of that show. Right. I think you've got to wait for season two to come out and we'll see if there's going to be a season three or maybe season two is the end of Squid game. I don't know. But I think that Netflix realizes this would probably be even bigger if it had stars. And not that I think, you know, there would be stars even in Squid Game. He may go with an unknown.

I mean, that may be the only way you can do Squid Game, kind of. Well, this goes back to what we were talking about before with Nolan, right? So you were like, I don't know if they really do these deals. I mean, this Netflix locked Fincher down for a deal now, too. Does that mean he can't go anywhere? Because talk about somebody who would be interesting. I know for a long time he'd been rumored to do a bunch of different big movies. but like he's probably just going to be content doing Netflix movies forever.

Yeah, I don't know that I see. I mean, I think that he could. I imagine that Netflix, that deal, like it has a carve out or whatever, where if he gets an offer, he can't refuse. But yeah, I think he's probably pretty comfortable there for right now. I will throw back to a Star Wars question for you because we do Star Wars a lot here too. Are you hearing anything about the release of when Ackleit might come out? No.

Because that is something that, when do you think that's coming out, stuff? I think next year. No, it's supposed to come out this year. Oh, yeah, the end of this year. Okay. I keep forgetting we're in 2024. I have not adjusted to that. I think winter or early January, 2025.

Okay, so you don't think it's going to be 2024. It might. Yeah, I just think because of the strikes and everything that it might be. But I think it will, there's a good chance that it's fall winter, 2024. for. There's some merit to the fact that you've heard nothing about it. They showed that one thing, they showed that one trailer at Celebration in London. And they haven't released it. Nothing. And there's been tons of reshoots rumors. There's this rumor that Canna Reeves is in it. Do you hear anything about that? No. So there's rumors that Canna Reeves is in it, that it costs almost $200 million.

Now, what I would say is, because it's all real locations, it's not, it's more, shot in the way that Andor was. But that's like an acceptable price. I mean, I don't know how many episodes it would be, but if it's a 10 episode show, then every episode costs 20 million. That's where we are. Sure. And especially if it's on location and it's a good story, then

if you spend the money and you can see the money, I'm all for it as well, too, if it's quality. You can spend 200 million on a Star Wars Ackleight show. You can't spend 200 million all due respect to Sophia Coppola on an Edith Wharton adaptation in Apple. Right. Because you

Sorry. Apple is hitting, though, lately. It's like one of my favorite streaming services. It's great. It is so great. The shows are so great. I just started watching the foundation. Okay.

It's a little confusing at first, but it gets really good. I love the effects. I can't wait for Masters of the Air, as I was called. I cannot wait for that show. Those 200 million, the Coppola show? Yeah. Custom of the country. It's a lot.

To give Sophia Coppola, yeah. No, but that's a lot of the, there's an overspending problem. The pitch sounded great, though. I will say that, but I didn't know the price. I mean, it's a big, it's a big book. And, you know, she supposedly had Florence Pugh, but I also understand Apple's reluctance where it's like, this doesn't make sense. This doesn't fly these days.

All the budgets, everyone is going to be tightening their belts. Right. And I think that the consumer is going to benefit from that. Right. Yes. I think the consumer will benefit from the very big. This whole idea and this whole notion of spend more money, you know, spend more money because we've got to hit that billion dollar budget, I mean, billion dollar prize.

the bullseye. I think it's lunacy. I think it's lunacy. I want to say, I've been talking about this a lot. I want to see them make, if they're going to make another Terminator movie, I want to see them go back to the 1984 horror thriller,

make it like an A-24 thing. You know, like that kind of feel. Like that, can you imagine they made a Star Wars movie for a movie for like $120 million? I think that's the future. I think that's all these franchises. That's the next pivot.

Whether it's fast and furious, which cannot keep making $300. $140 million movies. No, but they said $200 million like it was a big deal. Oh, we're going down to basics. We're going to $200 million. It's still $200 million. I'm shooting it on my iPhone.

Right. But for that movie, I mean, that is a huge drop from the last one. 370. The one that I do think is going to go small and could really benefit from going small is Jurassic. I was going to ask you. Please. Do you think that that's doable? Do you think they'll do that?

I think that there's like two routes to go. which is like, and Roka, or somebody threw this out yesterday. It was like, well, David Kemp's writing the script. Did David Kapp, who wrote the original, is he only coming back because Stephen was like wink, wink, wink, nudge, I'll direct this new Jurassic Park movie. You know, because I don't think Bullet is next for Stephen. Okay. And he's still looking for, you know, what his next movie will be. So it's either we're going to go big and Steven's coming back or we go small and we give it to a Colin Travaro type of person with a guy or girl.

But we don't give them a $200 million. You don't need a $200 million thing. It's small. Right. And just do something a little bit more interesting with it. And don't try to make a billion dollars. Obviously, that would be great. Right.

Yeah, but that's what happens. When you make an Indiana Jones for $300 million and it makes $500 or $400 and you go, what happened? Right. You spent $300 million on it. Right. Fast and Furious made $700 million worldwide.

And it lost money because it costs $370 million to make. Yes. Like, that's the kind of stuff. It's like, stop that. Just bring it down. Go back to the core concept of these franchises, you know, and focus on characters. That's why we love Jurassic Park. I mean, I love seeing dinosaurs too, but, like, we're there for the characters.

Godzilla minus one. Yes. Godzilla minus one was all about the characters, and when Godzilla showed up, they earned it. And, you know, that's the type of, is there any world that this guy does? Because he wants, apparently he met with Faloni. I think that's going to happen, the director of Godzilla minus one? Oh, I have no idea. I could see them working

Listen, I think I think there's a lot of interesting directors who have flirted with Star Wars over the years And in television as well I mean, I heard about Can you give me one crazy one That you're allowed to give? I can't, I'll be in so much trouble.

Give me in trouble? Okay, okay. But yeah, there was one director Okay, I won't name her There was a female director Yes. A big female director Who was nearly directed Like a couple of episodes of Andor

Oh, okay. But that didn't end up happening. But the point is that I do think, I don't know about his Faloni meeting, but that guy is going to be hot, the Godzilla director. I thought he could be a good fit for Jurassic if they do go a little bit smaller. If he loves it. I want him to love it. I don't want him to just take a job.

I don't want because that's happened before where they get the director that, oh, well, he loved Godzilla minus one. Right. You could tell. He loved it. And I loved it because he loved it. Right. Yeah.

And the history of Japan and the World War II. All of that played into it. I have to ask you, though, did you watch the Shogun trailer? No, is it amazing? It's amazing. I should watch it. I think it's so up your alley. Okay, I'll watch it.

Yeah, the FX series. Oh, my God. But with Jurassic, again, I talked about this yesterday on Hot Mike, but it's like, you have Adam Driver doing that dinosaur movie, right? Right. You have right now, David Robert Mitchell is supposed to start shooting in March, Flowervale Street for Warner Brothers, which is with Anne Hathaway and Oscar, it's like a dinosaur movie. Okay. If you're universal, aren't you looking at this? Like, dinosaurs are us.

We do dinosaurs. Why are we letting other studios do this? And that's why maybe they made this announcement or why they're fast-tracking this movie. I mean, the report said it could be out by next year. Wow. It said they want to have it in theaters by 2025. That would suggest a smaller budget.

Yeah. And does that, is that because the next chapter of fast won't be ready. You know, like they need some sort of big franchise tent blank or whatever. I don't know. What I do know is we got a lot here today. We got a lot. We got the, and Nolan thing was big, man. So what do you think?

I'm asking you guys again, do you think that Nolan is going back to Warner Brothers? Who do you think that female director was? That's interesting. Well, I'm going to start guessing on that one. There's a lot of different news in there. I love the idea. Where's Denzel going to go? If he does one of these movies, is he going to go to Marvel?

Is he going to go to Star Wars? Is he going to go to D.C.? Or is he going to do Equalizer, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 in tech. I know he's doing stuff with Vukwag and too, so that's interesting. But Oscar stuff, all that stuff. all that stuff and more. We got a lot that we talked about. I want to thank my guests here today, starting with Jeff, the In Snyder.

Where can they find you again? Tell them. Theinsider.com, guys. And again, it's independent journalism. It's the future. That movie The Mothership, okay? MRC produced it. Not surprised the trades didn't report on it.

MRC is basically PMC. I mean, practically. I mean, they owned the Hollywood reporter for a while anyways. So it's just like you need me on that wall. You may not like me. I don't care if you like me, but you need me on that wall because otherwise you're just going to get

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What is it? What's the price point for it right now? It's a little pricey. I would love to be able to bring the price down for everybody, but I need more subscribers, right? So right now it's $9.99 a month or $99 a year or if you don't want to subscribe, you can buy a single story like this Nolan story. If you just want to read that and print a dollar. I'm going to post the link on Buy Me a Coffee.com.

So it's essentially kind of what like New York Post or New York Times or those places do like when you go and sometimes you're reading that article and it goes, oh, to read this story, click the button. Yeah. Listen, I get how annoying a paywall is. I had to write behind a paywall variety for a while. Like it sucks. But as an independent, right, this is what I get. got, you know, I cannot operate a YouTube channel as great as Christian does. Like, I can't compete with guys like Christian or John Campi. Like,

you guys are fantastic and you're leading the way. This is something where I'm fantastic at and I can lead the way because I'm a good writer with good sources. And if the trades won't hire me and won't have me, then you know what? Jokes on them because now they've got to compete with me. That's right. I do think that you can combine what

you do well with the YouTube stuff. Just a one Shot. Yeah, you literally could just, if you did, if you made, I'll figure it out. If you made five or six minute videos with your phone, if you have a good enough phone and you got yourself a microphone, I mean, TikTok. TikTok influencers do freaking. I'd love to see on TikTok. Yeah, but I am on TikTok.

I have been putting the scoops out there, but it's really just like go subscribe to my newsletter. Right, but if you do something like, if you start to do things like little five minute videos and start making a channel and you get used to the rhythm of it, you don't have to do all this. I would love that. I would love to come home from a screening and say, you know what, I'm going to hop on YouTube and talk about the movie that I, just saw, which I'm not, you know, under embargo on, because I'm invited to the very last screen, all media screening or whatever. And, and then, you know, make money that night and go to bed and being like, hey, I just made $100, $150 or whatever in stream.

I was answering questions for a half hour. I would love to be able to do that. You just got to figure it out. Yeah, exactly. Steph, where can the good people find you? At Stephsabar or the World Girls. That's today, right? Yeah, tonight.

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