The Kristian Harloff Show - EXCLUSIVE! Mikey Madison Offered Role For Ryan Gosling Star Wars Movie!

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

The galaxy just got a little more dangerous… New story details from AHSOKA Season 2 may have revealed the fate of Ivanna Sakhno's Shin Hati — and they are wild. On today's Kristian Harloff Show, J...ohn Rocha and Mike Kalinowski to dive deep into what's next for Shin, Sabine, and Ahsoka after that intense Season 1 finale on Peridea. Could this season take the story even deeper into Star Wars lore? It's sounding that way... Plus, we cover a MONSTER casting update: Jurassic Park legend Sam Neill joins the MonsterVerse in Godzilla x Kong 3! What kind of cataclysmic threat are Godzilla and Kong about to face next? Also on today's show: The 28 Years Later trailer drops tomorrow! Will it live up to the hype of the first teaser? Anthony Mackie teases that the new Avengers: Doomsday will be a major return to form for Marvel. Could this be the MCU's next big turning point? AND — a Star Wars Horror project is reportedly in development, according to Andor creator Tony Gilroy. What could this mean for the future of the franchise? We break it all down with full coverage, reactions, and speculation! 🔥 TOPICS INCLUDE: Ahsoka Season 2 Story Details Reveal What Becomes Of Ivanna Sakhno's Shin Hati Jurassic Park Star Sam Neill Joins MonsterVerse; Set To Star In Godzilla x Kong 3 Next "28 Years Later" Trailer Launches Tomorrow Mackie: New "Avengers" Is A Return To Form A Star Wars Horror Project In Development According To Andor Creator Tony Gilroy #Ahsoka #StarWars #MCU #MonsterVerse #Godzilla #Avengers #ShinHati #KristianHarloff #28YearsLater #SamNeill #TonyGilroy #JohnRocha #MovieNews #DisneyPlus #Lucasfilm #MarvelStudios #GodzillaXKong3 OUR SPONSORS: KIKOFF: Tax season is the perfect time to take control of your financial future. For a limited time only, get your first month FREE at https://www.GetKikoff.com/kristian ACORNS: https://www.acornsearly.com/KRISTIAN Sign up now and your first month is on us!

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Happy Wednesday, everybody. Welcome to the Christian Harlov Show. I am John Roker. Don't adjust your sets. Yes, I am sitting in to host the show today. And I'm excited because it's the first time I'll be hosting with Mike Kalinowski in forever. So we do have Mike the killer himself joining us. We're going to have some fun talking about stuff going on with Star Wars and Masoka stories, some stuff going on with the Avengers, 28 years later, Jurassic Park, the new Jurassic Park film.
Starting point is 00:00:58 So there's a lot we're going to cover. Plus, we got a special guest showing up a little bit later, a special guest who might have something to tell us here in the world of entertainment. So stay tuned for that as we go along. All right, it's not wasting any time. Let's get into it. It's the Christian Harlov show. All right, welcome, everybody, to the Christian Harlov show. Excited to be jumping into all the stuff we're going to be talking about today.
Starting point is 00:01:30 And listen, there's a lot we're going to be going to be exploring, a lot we're going to be talking about. And I certainly can't do it alone. I didn't want to do it alone. And I'm very fortunate that an old friend of mine is joining me here on the Christian Harlovs show. It is the great Mike Kalanowski. How are you, Mike? Good. Now, buddy, first of all, you could do this by yourself.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Oh, come on now. You're not giving yourself enough credit. It's not as much fun. I'm happy to join. And it is not as much fun doing it by ourselves. But, hey, look at that screenshot for you right there, froze for you. Yeah, yeah. We're all good.
Starting point is 00:02:03 You got the stumble going on. Are you contemplating growing the hair out or is it just? just kind of in between cuts. Well, we're going over the ears. So I'm just asking. Yeah, it's, oh, yeah, it's long on the side there. No, it's, it's work dependent. So right now I've been doing a lot of certain, uh,
Starting point is 00:02:20 one of the role at work so I don't have to be clean shaving. So. Oh, nice. I'll take you when I can. Yeah, I got to shave it probably about a week. But yeah. Right on. Right on.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Yeah, man. Well, we got so much to get into Mike. And of course, we should remind the people who are listening to us, you know, super chats are super important for the show here on the Christian Arloff show. Roxy is leading the week right now, 83 with 83 superchats. You and Steph won last week. So I'm hoping we did.
Starting point is 00:02:44 You might be the lucky charm today. We can beat those 83 super chats. I mean, come on. The killer and the outlaw, we got to be a dynamic duo. This is one for the ages now. Come on now. Something you don't see every day. Let's go, people.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Bring it in. Bringing it toss in all your stuff here. So, all right. So let's get it going here. Let's start with the first story. Let's talk about this, Asoka story. Let me bring it up here.
Starting point is 00:03:06 And I always have to figure. out how to do this because that's how we go in this place. I don't have the skills that Christian Harloff does necessarily. So, and I'll make it a little bit bigger so we can all read it here. Boom, boom, boom, boom. All right. I'm getting out of the comments section. Let's get into it. So Asoka, season two story details reveal what's become of Ivana Sokno's Shinhati. The first minor plot details for the second season of Asoka have been shared online and they reveal what became of Ivana Sakno Shin-Hati following season one finale. In the season one finale of Asoka,
Starting point is 00:03:41 several characters were left stranded on Peridia when Grand Admiral Throng and his knight sisters escaped with Ezra Bridger stowing away on their ship with former Jedi Baylon's skull, of course, the late great Ray Stevenson setting off on his own to discover the secrets of the planet. His apprentice, Shin Hatte, has left to battle Asokatano and Sabine Ren. Shin survives,
Starting point is 00:04:01 and it was a pretty good fight there. And we last see her approaching a group of bandits with a lightsaber rays seemingly as a gesture of surrender. Hattie's intentions were not fully made clear, but a short passage from the upcoming Star Wars, Women of the Galaxy book, reveals that she does indeed join forces with these bandits before continuing her crusade to bring down Asoka and her allies.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Shin teams with a roving bannets on Purdy and resumes her hunt for Sabine and Ezra. Without bailant and temperate, Shin's impulsiveness could lead to challenging scenarios on the far-flung planet where she is stranded. updates on the second season of Assoca have been sparse, but production suspected get underway later this year. We recently learned, of course,
Starting point is 00:04:40 that Scottish actor Rory McCann, and Jeff broke down on the hot mic, best known for playing the hound on HBO's Game of Thrones, is set to take over as Bailen Skull in season two, and Stevenson, who sadly died back in May of 2020, 23. Good God, it's almost two years. Wow. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Just before his 58th birthday played the villainous former Jedi in the series, and the finale featured as the last scene as the character, as we see the powerful force wielders standing of the ruins of a mountain-sized sculpture of the mortis god so interesting plot details here mike what are your thoughts when you hear this stuff oh sorry about that what do you what do you thoughts when you hear that stuff does it is excited it makes sense uh yeah yeah i uh i get like for me ocoe was so insider baseball because i didn't follow rebels and clone wars so i was more invested with with shin and balin so and then ray's passing but i'm i am glad to see they're moving on with the new actor remember
Starting point is 00:05:33 you guys had broke that, the actor doing it. So, like, that to me is, you know, honoring the past and kind of moving on. It's such a good character. Right. So I was more invested in his stuff because that was, he was new to me, the two of them, as opposed to the rebels crew. So for me, that gets me excited. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Well, I like this in the fact that you're keeping the character consistent. And I like that you're focusing on her, like, on her story, right? Because I think a lot of people enjoyed what Ivana Sakano did in the show. show with Shin Hati, the writing, the construction of the show overall. Yes, it's certainly open for criticism. But her performance, pretty much across the board, a lot of people thoroughly enjoy a young, up-and-coming actress. And so getting to see more with her, I hope it's not like, okay, there's this one
Starting point is 00:06:19 thing and then we're moving away from it quickly. I hope we get some time with her, you know? Yeah, I mean, I would think, I mean, I would originally thought maybe they'll not focus on Baylon and focus on her, but if they recast the actor, that's definitely going to be Yeah. You know, the duo again. So, you know, but that, she was the most exciting thing I think of that show.
Starting point is 00:06:39 So yeah, it's a good way to lean into that. Yeah. And I think, you know, I think you cast Rory McCann because Rory McCannes not going to overshadow Avana Sakno. So it's pretty clear to me that they want to focus on us.
Starting point is 00:06:52 How can I say the fleshing out Shin Hattie a little bit more. Look, she's about to be the main villain in the Megan 2.0 film, the sequel to the, Oh, is that her? Yeah, that's her playing the, a blonde robot there who's being the main bill. So yeah, so she's, you know, she's going to be building up a name here as she does more
Starting point is 00:07:08 and more projects. Rory McCann, you know, an actor on the tail end of his career here as he's a character actor. So he's not going to overshadow her, right? Ray's version of Baylon was guiding her in her impulsiveness. Clearly now they want the focus to be on Shinn-Hat-T, and, sir, we'll have Baylon coming in Rory and what he's doing. But I think they cast an actor who's not going to take the shine off Ivan in any way, shape of one because they want to focus on her.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So giving her more to do, giving more to do with these Raiders, maybe she'll learn things that will make her even more of a formidable flow, right, for Asoka and Sabine when they meet again. Yeah. And if I remember, I'm trying to remember the show because that Baylon, like, I mean, he was sure, a tech, quote of a bad guy, but there were, you know, it was more of an honor thing. And that's why that guy was so good.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah. And the loyalty and honor. So maybe, maybe there'll be some kind of mentor. I mean, I know it's played a lot, a lot, the mentor, mentee kind of antagonism towards each other, but who knows, who knows? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, either way, it's going to be fun to see what they explore here. And I'm curious about this book, Mike, why do they do this? Why do they release information in a book before a series even comes out?
Starting point is 00:08:17 I don't understand the logic in this. Do you? That's Harlop's, like, Crux or Hilda Dian. Because people don't know, I mean, the books are for the fans. So, but then a lot of. like either Kathleen Kennedy or, Poloni don't like the books and they don't want to address the books. The books don't exist.
Starting point is 00:08:35 But now you're saying, all this is in the books. It's the character before. So I'm just like, I don't know, man. I got too much to read as it is. So I'm not picking them up.
Starting point is 00:08:44 But maybe it's those people that love that stuff and they dive into it. So when they see it, as long as when we show up, we're not lost. And like, wait, what happened? Where did they get that ship?
Starting point is 00:08:52 What happened? And it's like, oh, it's in the book. Got to read the books. Well, the other part of this is interesting because it says, Without bail in the temperate, Shin's impulsiveness could lead to challenging scenarios on the far-fung planet where she has strained.
Starting point is 00:09:04 So does that imply that they're going, is she going to be on that planet kind of working through things, getting to Asoka or trying to get off the planet to get to Asoka for a few episodes before she finally confronts Asoka, we're going to be like, is this almost like a not a two-hander but a three-hander? We're following Throne. We're following Ashoka. We're following Shana-T. I wonder if that's what they're setting up here. I don't know. Like, yeah, how long should be on that plane? Can we stuck there the whole episode or a whole show?
Starting point is 00:09:31 I don't know. I don't know. After a series. Yeah. Yeah. But we'll see. You got to build her up for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:36 What do you guys think? Let us know in the comment section. What's your speculation for this? What do you think it means for her and where she's going to be going and what she's going to be doing on these planets? And what's scenarios do you anticipate that she's going to get herself into with her impulsiveness? You know, I'll be curious to see what that's all about. All right. Let's move on to some Jurassic Park news here, Michael.
Starting point is 00:09:58 This is going to be interesting for us. Oh, all right. Near dear to your heart. Let's get into this stuff. Spending every seven days a week almost down in that Jurassic world. Aye, aye. Aye. Go.
Starting point is 00:10:11 So apparently, Jurassic Park star Sam Neal will now join, is joining the Monsterverse. He is set to star in Godzilla versus Kong 3 or X Kong 3. I guess you got to say that. Three decades after, three decades after, not R, after, come on, combook.com. Get it together.com. Three decades after scoring off against the T-Rex Sam Neal is set to face off with a pair of monsters far larger anything the planet has ever seen. He's joined Legendaries Godzilla Kong. Multiple sources are reporting that Sam Neal has joined the cast of Legendaries Next Monsterverse
Starting point is 00:10:44 Installments, a tenorily titled Godzilla X-Con 3. Plot details are being kept strictly under wraps for now. But the studio has teased that the new film, which is being held by Grant Spoutor, I hope I'm saying that right. we'll follow, quote, several new human characters alongside the beloved and iconic titans, Godzilla and Kong as they face off against a cataclysmic world-ending threat. It's up for debate what that cat-closmic world-ending threat could be, but the previous film's director, Adam Wingard tease last year that if he were to direct the next film,
Starting point is 00:11:13 Desteroia might be in the cards. Wow, now they're going deep cuts. Speaking with disgusting film, he said, I'll say this. One of my top Godzilla movies is Godzilla versus Destroya. The reason it's one of my favorites is, I don't think any other Godzilla movie, maybe outside of minus one in the 1954 original, has ever hit such emotional highs. The ending of that film, when Godzilla Jr. dies, spoiler alert,
Starting point is 00:11:34 and subsequently, Godzilla freaking melts to death, is so pointed and also beautiful in the way that they do it. The first time I saw it, it brought tears to my eyes. And part of that is thanks to Akira Iifa Kube's grand score that plays in that scene. It's crazy because you look at Godzilla versus Desteroia, and it's a very high-end version of having a guy in a Godzilla suit, I would say it's probably the peak of it because I don't think it's been matched in terms of that version, the quality and the scale of having Godzilla brought to life through an actor in a suit. But that's the thing for me.
Starting point is 00:12:03 If I were going to do another one of these films, I would want to hit that kind of emotional resonance with Godzilla as a character this time. That's what I'll say for now. So interesting stuff there, Mike, but he's Sam Neal. If he joins, we'll be joining the starcast. It includes Caitlin Dever, Jack O'Connell, who is fantastic in sinners, by the way. Delroy Lindo, who is also fantastic in sinners. Matthew Modine, Alicia Debenham Carey, and Dan Stevens reprising his role from the last film. Deaver will headline the human cast with O'Connell playing a brother and Stevens reprising his role.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Grant Spatorre is directing who did I Mother the Furnace. We buried, I don't know, any of those movies with a screenplay. I'll describe David Callahan. All right, so this is interesting, Mike. I mean, we're talking about Sam Nail, who is known for one franchise that deals with large creatures in dinosaurs. And now moving into another one. Do you like this idea? Does this make sense to you?
Starting point is 00:12:55 Let me ask you this first. What's your thoughts on these films in general? Because I know they said this is Godzilla versus Kong three. Godzilla X-Kong, yeah, three. But that's King, we got King of Monsters in there. We got, so this whole monster verse in the show. Yeah. What's your thought on these films in general?
Starting point is 00:13:13 I think they're fun films. I think sometimes they're not as strong. Like the one that came out during COVID with King Kong in the underworld, that wasn't that great with Rebecca Hall that wasn't that story. Yeah, that was like right when COVID we were able to go to movies, right? Exactly, yeah. Yeah. But the last one I thought was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And I know the critics went after it and destroyed it, but for what it was, I thought it was a lot of fun. It's not Godzilla minus one in any way, shape, or form. And the more they try to bring emotion to it, like they did I think with Millie Bobby Brown and Vera Formiga, I was like, I don't need that shit. That's not what I'm here for. So I think
Starting point is 00:13:47 they're smartly adjusted in the last one to make it much more about them, about them, you know. Okay, so yeah, I didn't see the last. That was the one with like the baby Kong and the, yeah, the power glove, right? Yeah, like, so for me, it's like, every time they introduce these actors, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:14:01 it doesn't matter. I don't know who you're throwing in there. That's true. Like, but you say, like, I thought they learned their lesson with that, didn't they? Like, I thought, like, I liked King of Monsters, like, Kyle Chandler and all of them.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Like, that was my favorite one of all of them. But, and, Was it Vera Formigo was in there? Like, yeah. But I think they realized they're like, yeah, people don't care about these. They just want to see Kong and Godzilla beat the hell out of each other. But you got to have actors in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 But then again, you know, Godzilla minus one. I cared more about what I didn't understand the word they were saying. I had to watch it watching subtitles. But I loved it because you cared about them. You don't need words to care about your humans. But Sam Neal, Sam Neal, he brings a certain gravitas to it. So, oh, that's a great shot of me. Look at that one.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I think this is like Transformers, isn't it? Like Stanley Tucci, you bring in Francis McDormon. So to give some credibility, you bring in Sam Neal and having me. I wonder if Sam Neal has worked with Dan Stevens' character or if he's, you know, got some kind of connection to Kate the fever and Jack O'Connell. So there's all kinds of things. But yeah, you're bringing in some pretty high caliber actors to be a part of this. And I think they all get that luck.
Starting point is 00:15:17 we're in for the paycheck and we're in that from fun so we'll lend our credibility to this film and enjoy doing it but sam is an interesting choice like how do you not how do you make him how do you just resist making the comparisons to drasic world i'm i'm assuming he's some kind of scientist expert paleontologist and you know hey yeah that's what i you know maybe maybe it was the script was like you know what we really need a sam neil type like well why don't we just see if we can get Sam, you know, the director's like,
Starting point is 00:15:50 right of a Sam Neil type. Let's go ask him. Let's see what he's doing. I wonder if it's, I mean, is this, they can't cross over,
Starting point is 00:15:57 right? This ain't kind of, that you can, this are two different studios. I mean, but who knows, who knows, who knows,
Starting point is 00:16:03 man. I think it's Warner Brothers, right? Yeah, it is Warner Brothers. Yeah. I don't know. It's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Who knows? He does great work when he pops in, right? I mean, I thought it was weird when he pops into these big films and certainly it was fantastic. and Piki Blime.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you wonder, though, right? I mean, like you said, this really strong casting with all these actors
Starting point is 00:16:25 being a part of this thing. Are they going to start a little more emotion to play? You know, so Rick, Brickle Hall, they said is in it, right? Rick Hall was in.
Starting point is 00:16:34 But she's not in this one? I don't think she's in this one because she wasn't in the last. But Dan Stevens in and Dan Stevens was in the last one. Yeah. So he's a carryover. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Like, I still don't know what happened to Charles Dance. He was supposed to find, he found the one thing's head. back before Mega Godzilla and we haven't seen Charles dance. Right, right. What about Brian Tyree Henry? Isn't he becoming a consistent part of these as well?
Starting point is 00:16:58 I think he's like a tech guy, wasn't he? No, he was a conspiracy blogger guy. Yeah, yeah, him and Miley Bob Brown and then the guy Russell from Deadpool 2. Right. He was there. They were in their van. I don't know who knows where he is now. I'm the lose track of this shit.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Yeah, Bernie Hayes. He was in Godzilla X-Kong and then Godzilla X-Kong, the new empire, which is, which was last year. It felt like it was two years ago, this movie, but it was actually- I'll say this. I'll say this about these films. They are nailing them on a consistent basis, man. They are getting them out there. So, and the quality is always good that you never look at this like, these effects suck.
Starting point is 00:17:39 No, they look great. Yeah. So good for them, man. If they can keep knocking this stuff out every couple of years, every two years. Yeah. Man. I guess that's a good point. Yeah, like, I mean, and they're clearly making money or they wouldn't make them.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Right, right. So whatever formula they've cracked, I say go for it. I mean, it's not my cup of tea. But I was, I was really kind of disappointed because it seemed like King of Monsters, they were going to start bringing all the other Titans out. But now they always go back to Kong and Godzilla or Kong versus some other monkeys. Right. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:18:11 There's so many different Titans out there. Make these things different. So that, you know, but I'm a minority in that. Yeah, Rebecca Hall's been in the last two, but she's not listed so far in the cast for this one. So maybe Caitlin Deaver has taken her spot. Maybe Rebecca was a little out of it. Have they done?
Starting point is 00:18:32 Wait, where are they at on the studio? What episode have they shown me? Rebecca's in one of the episodes. Rebecca's in one of the episodes. I'm not on to that one yet. Oh, really? Okay, okay. No.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah, I can't remember which episode she's in, but she's in one of the episodes. I don't know where they're at right now. Episode 5. Oh, so we got, yeah, we got a little bit together, which, yeah, she pops up as cameo. I mean, everybody has a cameo in that series. Yeah, but I mean, the Caitlin Deaver thing is interesting, too, because she is really an up-and-coming actress.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Yeah. And she's about to be, you know, she's about to have more screen time as Abby in The Last of Us. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Season 2. So, yeah. I'd be curious if this is all just kind of the ascension of Caitlin Dever up to higher status,
Starting point is 00:19:18 playlist status. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. But I like the same meal. Like you said, he brings a certain kind of, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:24 kind of approach to it. Yeah, it's a good choice. All right. Well, let's see. Let's do one more story. And well,
Starting point is 00:19:31 actually, though, where are we going to? Should we hit the break? I think we should hit the break. Let's hit the break, make. Because it's a weird kind of show.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So we kind of have to go through this stuff and figure it out. So Mike, I'll take you down and I'll hit a break here in just a second. So, all right. oh i got to go solo okay uh yeah so those are the stories well let us know what you think about it what do you think sam neal's going to play i'm sure it's not going to be a crossover but wouldn't it be fun if it was what would be your fantasy crossover with sam neo playing the same character from
Starting point is 00:20:01 jerassic world or Jurassic park into this uh franchise could there be shades of it will there be a line from the Jurassic world movies or Jurassic park movies where sam gets a little meta wink or snicker out of it or smirk out of it let me know let me know let Let us know all that in the comment section. And what do you think of the Yosoka? For those you're catching up to the show a little bit late, what are your thoughts on the Shin Hati news and her storyline? Let us know what you think about all of that in the comment section.
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Starting point is 00:26:09 here. Yeah, buddy. What's going on with your glasses? Are you good? Are you good? Are you ready to go? They're my readers, man. I need them when I'm reading stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I hear you. I hear you, brother. I hear you. Well, let's keep moving in here. Let's take a look at the next story here. And this is a little bit of a... Hold on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:28 We're at 40-some-odd questions already. That's awesome. Yeah. We're at 53 right now. So we might get to 83. Hopefully, by the time we even get to the questions, that would be amazing. That would be amazing. Thank you to everyone.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Let's get into this thing here. This is the next thing and let's get it. It's 28 years later. The next 28 years later trailer will launch tomorrow. All right, I got content on the channel. The second trailer for Danny Boyle's 28 years later is set to launch tomorrow with Sony Pictures, having unveiled a countdown video to the new trailer launch
Starting point is 00:27:03 in the nearly too many clip. Blimpses of the trailer can be seen, while much of it focuses on a bunch of red skin rolling into the shape of a biohazard sign, as you see there, that often forms part of the logo for this series. The first trailer launched late last year and was a massive success, becoming the most watched horror trailer in 2024 at 60.2 million global views. It was also the second biggest horror trailer of all time behind only It Chapter 2 at 96 million views at launch. The trailer also received much acclaim so much so that the studio quickly moved the digital release of the original 2002 film 28 days later
Starting point is 00:27:37 forward to hit digital stores within days of that trailer release. Alex Scarlett returns a pen the script for the new film which stars Jody Comer, Aaron Taylor Johnson, Ray Fines, and Jack O'Connell. Wow, Jack's all over the place now. Yeah, that guy crazy. It's working. It marks the first of a new trilogy of films in the series, each with a budget said to be in the range of $75 million.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Check back tomorrow at 12 a.m. P.T. 3 a.m. E.T. in 5 p.m. Australian time for the club. I got to stand until midnight. The film opens June 20th of this year. The life of a YouTube. Michael, your thoughts on the, did you get a chance to see this one? The teaser shows about two and a half minutes. You can chance see it? I saw the first one. Okay. I don't know which one. That is it. There's a new one out. I did not see it. These, I saw that movie late. I didn't see it in theaters. Not my cup of tea. these movies.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Not the movie, not the movie itself. Okay. This type of movie. Gotcha. Zombie movies is what you're saying. Right. Yeah, that's not my thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I remember when it came out and I'd seen it a couple years later and I was like, oh, this is a really different take on zombie movies and everything. But it's not my cup of tea. So when a trailer drops, I'm not rushing to catch it. Wow. Fascinating. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Yeah. It is for me. I like it. I'm with you. Sometimes the zombie genre can get a little like, okay, I get it. Yeah. The best of the Walking Dead, those are great.
Starting point is 00:29:04 That's great stuff. Some of the best of the, of the George Romero approaches to Day of the Dead, Dawn of the Dead, the Zack Snyder one I thought was good. I like that one. Yeah, his remake or his reboot of that was really cool. But yeah, you've got it,
Starting point is 00:29:18 but then you get something like World War Z and you're like, or these other things that you're not 100% on board. But this one I think was really good because of the starkness and the approach and the darkness with which they went through it. So that first trailer playing that Rudyard Kipling poem, I think is what it was, that basically is a poem they used to turn people crazy
Starting point is 00:29:41 and World War I. And it was that woman's voice just reciting it over and over again, right? Yeah, yeah. And it was used apparently into torture by the Brits to torture their prisoners of war to get them to tell stuff about what's going on with the enemy and reveal plans. And so, yeah, it's taking on a life of real deep horror and resonant horror and horror that's topical to what's going on.
Starting point is 00:30:06 So I'm real curious to see what we're going to get in this new trailer. But the flashes we got were insane and just something that seems like it's going to scare the shit out of a lot of people. And Brits, the Brits go darker than the Americans. The Brits love to go even darker than the Americans with their horror sometimes. and I think that's going to be exciting to see as well. Are there any zombie films that you enjoy that you like that you relate to or gravitate to? You know, man.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I like World War Z up into a point. Right, right. You know, but I'm like, maybe it's the concept of a zombie. And I know these ones are more feral and they run. Yes, yes. Versus the ones that kind of just shamble around and you're just like, I don't know, man. It takes a lot for.
Starting point is 00:30:56 for a horror movie to kind of reel me in and get me invested. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got you. I got you. Not something you gravitate too necessarily off the bat. So I totally get that for sure.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah. Oh, oh, watch out. Watch out, everybody. I can't believe he's here. PLD actually decided to grace us with his presence. That's a,
Starting point is 00:31:13 he's got the both of us again. He should talk to both of us now. Does he should talk you too? Oh, of course he does. The only reason I don't get it is he'll go after you. That's right. Well,
Starting point is 00:31:22 I mean, jealousy can take many forms. And certainly, seeing a two-strapping, good-looking, handsome men like us, it must drive him insane. It is a burden to bear, and he just is upset about it. When you're a Houston 5, but at everywhere else in the world, a 2, it's tough. It's tough to carry the world.
Starting point is 00:31:40 It's tough to carry that around in your life for sure. Oh, Houston 5. It can't be an easy existence. It can't be any easy existence. Anyway, welcome PLD. Welcome to hanging out in the chat there. Yeah, so we'll see. I'm looking forward to it.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I can't believe. Am I going to stay up until midnight? Probably not. I'm probably going to wake up. Come on. Come on. It's content you said for the channel. You got to do it. Nuts. Nuts. So what they said is dropping Australia time? Yeah, Australia time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazyness, man. So I guess that's their way to put it. You got to do it. They're going to beat you to it. Yeah, yeah. We'll see. We'll see. All right. Let's move on to do another story here. This is something I think you're going to have a lot more to talk about. And I'm curious here, your thoughts. on this one. We'll see about that.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Anthony Mackey's new Avengers is a return to form. Here we go. Mr. Captain America himself, Mike Kalanowski, it's no secret that the Marvel Cinematic Universe has been creatively and less so financially on a rough road in recent years. The studio's post-Avangers endgame titles have certainly been getting a frosty reception
Starting point is 00:32:48 than the films that came before it for various reasons. It's hoped that with Thunderbolts or the new Fantastic Four things will improve so that by the time the new Avengers films hit, even casual filmgoers might get excited for MCU films. Again, Anthony Mackie certainly thinks the upcoming Avengers Doomsday will mark a return to the better days of the studio's output. I mean, ironically, he's been a part of a lot of the studios. He's saying it against himself.
Starting point is 00:33:15 What are you doing, man? To return to form, you've been in two of the two projects post end game. Exactly. Speaking with IGN, Justice, Captain Eric, a Brave New World. It's VOD already. Goodness. Mackey says he's about to begin shooting and is damn excited. Quote, we're supposed to go out this week and we'll be out there doing it.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Everybody's excited. I feel with the script and having the Russo Brothers back, it's going to be great. I'm really excited for what this project is going to be. It's going to give the audience that old Marvel feeling that they always had. Mackey is one of the confirmed 37 cast names so far alongside likes of Robert Downey Jr. Hemsworth, Hiddleston, Paul Rudd, similarly. Tisha Wright and various X-Men Thunderbolts and fantastic four actors. Filming on the New Avengers will be running for the next few months
Starting point is 00:34:01 ahead of the film's plan release on May 1st of 2026. Bro, I don't know how you start shooting an Avengers film now and think you're going to get it out by this time next year. That makes no sense to me with post-production issues. Zero. I don't, this whole thing, first his comment I heard is like, well, kind of put your own movie under the bus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:23 like and then because like his whole thing was like they were talking about like oh this is old back to the old winter soldier days to make you feel the winter soldier days like no it didn't do that and you know he wants to get people back and talk about the old marvel way but like the reason even the casual movie goers outside of little film twitter versus they were caught up and going to see every movie and like I can't miss this one that's why I kept in Marvel made a billion dollars yeah like that movie's not very good but it made because every single person in America I got to see this one that's why I'm going to see this one. That's why I'm going to see this one. I got to see this one. I'm like that movie's not very good. I got to see. this. I got to see it. Like, we don't even know who the Avengers are. Like, what are we talking about? And we, you're not getting casual movie goers excited because casual movie goers, like, I hate to say it, but the Thunderbolts box office, you know, outlook. And I hate that they do that, but like, it's really soft. It's not looking good at all. Because everyone is going, I'll see that on Disney Plus. It'll stream at a couple months. I'll see it. And then so we'll have Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four and then Secret or Doomsday. So what's going to get the, hyped up to see it. Like, you can't just hope that the press for the movie is going to get people in. Like, I know people chime with like, oh, 70 billion people watch fares for seven hours.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Will those translate into box office dollars? Are those people, those 200 million people that watch that are going to show up, you know, to see the film? I don't think so. Right. It's easy to watch a YouTube video and put it on and leave it on your background. it did a lot harder to go and pay $25 bucks to go see a movie. Right, right. So especially with a brand right now and a franchise right now that's a bit on its heels
Starting point is 00:36:02 and how it's trying to put itself back together. And Captain, I mean, like for every advance they made on Agatha and people liked Agatha, Captain America Brave New World knocked people back, you know, knock people back. It did. And so it's like, uh, and although I thought the film was fine, I didn't think it was that bad of a movie as some other people thought. But like, it certainly wasn't a great Marvel film. And you were hoping to get a great Marvel film.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And now you're like, oh, now you've got Anthony Mackey, who was the star of that film, who was the co-lead with Sebastian Stan in one of the main series to have come out. Now he's the one said, we're going to get that old Marvel feeling again, which basically means other people are going to take the load off of me. And I can just sit back a little bit and play Captain America part. I mean, is he, I mean, because it seemed like by the end of the movie, he's going to put together the Avengers, is that still going to happen?
Starting point is 00:36:52 Or is it someone else? People think the Thunderbolts are going to be the Dark Avengers coming in. Like, I mean, this is curious. You know, it's like, I'm trying to,
Starting point is 00:37:02 you know, we'll always go see these and we'll be their opening weekend and see them. And we're not the audience they need to get. Like, the casuals, right. Yeah, I'm just,
Starting point is 00:37:11 I'm trying to think like, you know, there's just no buildup. We don't know what's going on. And I get the hell. I rolled my eyes at it. Every X-Men cast member that was announced because when the big, you know, Fox Buyout happened and everyone was like, oh, we're finally going to get the X-Men. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And I'm like, all right, you know what, man, I'm going to be excited to see what they do with Fantastic Four because Marvel does Marvel. They do it right. Yeah. But now we're just getting, we're getting the old X-Men with the fresh coat of paint. It's like, Hugh Jackman, we're going to, we're going to prop up Ian McKellen. the poor guy at 90 years old and put him in the purple cape again. And like I wish James Marsden never got a fair shake of cyclops. And true, you know, but he won't hear.
Starting point is 00:37:58 We're doing, we're doing Logan. Yeah. It's the end of the characters. We're giving him a final send-off. Nah, nah, no, we're going to bring them back. Then you get, you know, sorry, I froze there for a second. Then you get this beautiful thing. Then-na-na-na-na-na-na-na.
Starting point is 00:38:12 There's Professor Rex in his giant yellow chair. And that, but he's going to come back. He died in that one. He's coming back again. And I get it, man. Deadpool Wolverine made a billion dollars off nostalgia alone because we all went ape shit when Wesley Stipe showed up, Jennifer Garner. And it was fun.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Was it a good movie? No. Wow. It was fun. It was fun. Right. It wasn't a good movie. So now what are we just going to get a cameo fest of everyone popping up?
Starting point is 00:38:37 Like, come on, man. And it's like, Deadpool Wolverine was supposed to reset the time. Do this is what the X-Men are going to be. And it's going to reset the multiverse and establish what it is. It didn't do anything. Yeah. Now this one is. And now we're getting Robbie Dunny Jr.
Starting point is 00:38:52 And I don't, I'm still not on the board with the doom thing. I think this is this. I think he'll, I think he's a great actor. Yes. But. And again,
Starting point is 00:39:03 I'm along for the ride. I'm, I'm there. Right. I'm not shutting it off. I'm not saying I'm not doing it. But. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:09 But it's pretty clear that they're going to keep him on as doom. At least it seems to. I think so. Yeah, right. I think so, man. I just, yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:39:22 Reed and Duma are two of the biggest rivals and best rivalries. That rival's up there with Batman and the Joker. And it seems like we're not even getting that. And he's going to have so many connections to the Avengers because of who it is. Right. They must have an idea. They must know what they're doing. I want to have faith in the Rousseau's because what they did with Marvel,
Starting point is 00:39:43 it was unheard of and they deserve credit. But I will say this also. how much does that goodwill go how far i like i like the gray man i like the gray man right but i know i'm a minority in that right but other than that yeah and this this to me a little bit if i can make a sports analogy it feels like the dallas cowboys like okay we've had some bad years but we're we're bringing back the old we're bringing back some of the old players we're resigning them and because they took us to super bowls and blah blah blah and we think we can make it happen. And so to me, this is an interesting situation when you look at it,
Starting point is 00:40:23 because if they fumble doomsday, where do they go from here, man? Where do they go from here? Because this is being hyped up to be there. But I think they won't because it's going to pull Deadpool numbers because of what it, people are just going to show up to see these characters again. Yeah. But Deadpool didn't do anything because look what happened to the films after. it. No one came back again. They went for that one big one. Right, right. So they'll show up for this one. I have no doubt in my mind. This is not going to make a billion dollars. It will. It's going to print money. Does that mean it's going to be good? Does it mean it's going to, you know, you might get a good jump start, but you got to fix the heart. But you got to fix the heart. If you want a thing to live on for 50 more years. That's a fair point. And all they keep doing is every, couple years, they're going to roll out the shock cart with the Deadpool and the Wolverine and shock it. Boom, we got a heartbeat. We got a heartbeat. Let's go. And then a new doctor comes in. It's like, what did you do? Jesus, this guy's bleed everywhere. I've just finished the pit, so I'm in my medical.
Starting point is 00:41:34 You're in my medical. But it's a great analogy because it's a dying patient and you shock it. And we're like, all right, we're back in. Can we get them up to surgery? He's like, no, there's a faint heartbeat. You did nothing. Right. All right. Let's get back into what can we try. Let's stick a bubble up his bladder and inflated with the air. tube. You're like, you kept him alive, but look at his condition. That's what you're right. Look at the condition. You kept him alive. Sometimes you're like, you know, they'll never say it's DOA and like, I said him to the morgue. They won't do that. They're going to stick him in a chair with a tube and then. The other thing that concerns me, though, too, is listening to, um, uh, what's
Starting point is 00:42:09 listening to, uh, Jeff on the hot mic, Jeff said like, you know, they might not have a, they don't have a lock script. He seemed pretty clear on that because they're still, signing people to the movie. So if they're still signing people to the movie, and this is supposed to start shooting here in the next few days, and it's supposed to come out in a year with the post-production that they would do on a film like this. And this is going to be a massive film.
Starting point is 00:42:33 To me, there's a lot of, yet again, there's that kind of like Marvel fear. And look, I don't want to hear from pundits, because I'll tell you this, Mike, it's driving me insane. All of these pundits are like, don't come for Superman, unless you've read All-Star Superman. You don't know what he's doing. You don't get what he's...
Starting point is 00:42:52 I shouldn't have to read a panel of that effing story to see if I like the film from what I think that's... I hate that. Yeah. I love the fact that like, seeing the trailer, I saw the influence is 100%. Right. I don't think you need to...
Starting point is 00:43:09 You know, we didn't have to... I was... I mean, I'm a comic book guy for my whole life. I never read a single comic of the Guardians of the Galaxy. Not one. One. In my some of many years, I love the hell of that movie and fall in love with those characters. Yeah. So I think that's why James Gunn. He knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:43:25 So, like, yeah, comic book gatekeepers like that are garbage. It drives me nuts. It drives me nuts when people say that. And they're so earnest about it and all of that. It's like, it should stand on its own. It should stand on its own as a separate piece of material. You know, it's madness. So many people like those Lord of the Rings movies who, if you pulled them, would tell you
Starting point is 00:43:45 they'd never seen it. They ever read one of those books. Never read one of those books. Never read more. I never read the books. I love those movies. Yeah, exactly. Not for me. Yeah, exactly. So we'll see what happens with this. I mean, Anthony's kind of telling on himself being so excited that he's in other people's hands to do a marble movie. We will see. But we've got a special guest who is joining us now. He's coming in a little bit early. So he is ready to go, raring to go. And it is the insider of Self-Sachmoe out reunion here.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Look at this. This is the triumph. Bring him in here. Let's do the three. There he is. Mike Kalinowski looking beautiful, champ. How are you, Jeff? How are you?
Starting point is 00:44:27 Good to see you, man. Good to see you. This is a Titans of Shmo down here. Holy crap. Look at this. A lot of knowledge. A lot of useless knowledge. They call this the hottest mic.
Starting point is 00:44:38 This would be the hottest mic. This would be the hottest mic. Well, the mic's about to get pretty hot, I would say. Yeah. I'm excited myself. I'm like a fan on the side. I've never been a part of one of these. I'm hearing this first hand.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Well, I owed Christian a little something, something. So I wanted to break this news on his podcast. I'm going to press the button on my newsletter and my tweet while I'm on the air with you. And then we are going to be the first show on the internet to discuss it. So here goes nothing. I am pressing the button
Starting point is 00:45:07 now. The scoop is out. I am copying the link. I am tweeting the story. One second. You'll get the email any second. I'm on.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Is it my seat here? Great radio. I'm nervous. Don't worry. It'll be worth it. The story is out. The link to the Christian Harlov scoop is out. And I can now tell you.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yes. That Mikey Madison, Oscar winner, Mikey Madison, has been offered a role in Sean Levy's Star Wars movie. Wow. That is the news,
Starting point is 00:45:46 folks. Woo. Woo. So I can tell you a little bit about what's going on here. So right now, Sean Levy is casting the rest of the cast around Ryan Gosling. Yeah, yeah. The lead of this movie is a 15-year-old boy. Oh, so it's not Ryan Gosling.
Starting point is 00:46:07 A 15-year-old boy is the lead of the movie. Interesting. Why? Because these movies are for kids. Right. That's why they make Star Wars movies. They make Star Wars movies for kids. So they're casting a 15-year-old boy, his mother.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Now, Mikey Madison is not old enough to have a 15-year-old child. Right, right. There are two villain roles. Okay. And then there's another female role, and that is the role that Mikey has been offered. So it is a supporting role. Okay. It is not a huge starring role opposite Ryan Goss.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Okay. And I can't say for certain that she's in the movie because she's also entertaining an offer for the Resident Evil movie at Sony. Right, to lead the resident, the franchise. That rumor has been out there for a few weeks. I mean, Austin Abrams is still the lead of that movie, I believe. Right, right. But she would be the female lead.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Now, I don't know if these movies go at the same time or if she would have to choose one or the other. Right. And I'm sure a lot of that would come down to money as well. I mean, Craigor's definitely someone who a lot of actors want to work with. But at the same time, a lot of boys, and girls grow up, dreaming of being in a Star Wars movie. And that opportunity doesn't always come around, you know, so often. So I think that she would be hard pressed to turn it down. She has not signed on to anything since Enora, since winning the Oscar. Right. And she's not a household
Starting point is 00:47:34 name, even still, even after that, right? I mean, Anora made like 50 or 60 million. It did very well. But I think that she could use a big franchise, a global franchise that makes her, you know, with a gigantic marketing campaign that makes her a household name so mikey madison has been offered uh this part now separately this is just this is not any information this is me speculating all right i'm gonna put you back in the one shot go ahead yes go ahead i'm gonna ask you guys if you're casting a 15 year old boy as the lead of your movie any have you guys seen any 15 year old boys lately who did gave amazing performances and the whole world is talking about adolescence maybe adolescence hmm I mean, now that's just me talking.
Starting point is 00:48:20 That's nothing that I've heard. But if you're casting a 15-year-old boy, how are you not looking at Owen Cooper? Yeah. You just gave a hell of a performance in adolescence, which is one of the biggest series on Netflix. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Yeah. I don't know if that kid is white and his mother is white. They could, you know, that could be how they get some people of color in this movie, particularly with some of the other names that we've heard, Rumer, Jesse Plemons, Jody Comer. You and I, John, had a big discussion. last week on the hot mic about those names. And I don't know, you know, those are just names on a list as far as I know.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Right. So I don't know that this is a white 15, 15 year old boy, but I'm just saying this kid is, you know, super naturally talented, it seems like. Yeah. So what do you guys think? This is some interesting talent to be bringing in. This is just me. What do you think about Mike?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah. Yeah. What do you think about all this, uh, uh, Kalanowski? What do you think? I mean, it's like, you know, they always go up to the hot, like, she's so good. Like, and just her look, there is a great look about her. And who knows if it's going to be makeup or whatnot, you know, look at Daphne Keenan and,
Starting point is 00:49:28 what was it, the acolyte. I mean, she was the best thing in that show, the best thing by far. They make up, throw makeup all over. So who knows, man, I, it gets me excited. Like this is, we talk Harleff and I all the time about Star Wars right now and how we're just not excited about it. Because it's just hasn't got that, you know, that feeling. to get you excited about again, but stuff like this,
Starting point is 00:49:48 everything they've been knocking out with this. I'm like, I'm okay, I'm in, I'm in, more, more. So I'm like, it seems like they know what they're doing. Yeah, it seems like Sean Levy is, like we were saying earlier, Jeff, on our conversation on the hot mic, like,
Starting point is 00:50:01 this is an approach that's different from other Star Wars movies, in my opinion. Like the level of actor that they're going for here is a whole other ballgame. You've got an Oscar winner in Mikey Madison, possibly Jody Comer, is considered one of the most transcendent actresses
Starting point is 00:50:16 currently working today. You bring it in Ryan Gosling, who has been talked about for all these other films. It doesn't mean it's, and now you talk about a 15-year-old lead. So it doesn't mean necessarily that it won't be that kind of pew, pew, pew, feel-good, fun, original trilogy type of energy. But there's a possibility that this is possibly a little more deeper with Jesse Flemmons. So I like the caliber of actor. And if you include in the adolescence kid, if that's really a possibility down the road, if they're kicking that around, I think that immediately this dwarfs the Ray film from Charmino Baye Chanoi
Starting point is 00:50:49 and makes people much more excited to see this film and fast-tracking this film makes sense now after Mandalorian and Grogut. What I've heard about... Now, that is a movie for like hardcore Star Wars people, right, who watch the Mandalorian. I mean, you won't, will have,
Starting point is 00:51:05 you don't need to have watched the Mandalorian series to, you know, get into Mandalorian and Grogu from what I understand. But, you know, clearly I think it would have helped. With this movie, I think this movie is going to be a little bit different. I think that this is going to be more of a Sean Levy movie in space in the Star Wars universe than it is a Star Wars movie directed by Sean Levy, if you get what I'm saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:32 And, you know, people have different feelings about Sean Levy, but at the end of the day, I mean, look at what you did with Deadpool and Wolverine. Like audiences are responding to it. It is maybe a little bit more broad, but it's also, you know, more commercial. or maybe inviting. And so that is what I gather is happening with this movie is that they're letting Sean do his thing and make it a Sean Levy movie.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Right. With Gosling in place of Reynolds, essentially. Well, when you make what, $1.6 billion, whatever it was for Deadpool movie, I guess you're able to do what you want to do. But Jeff, as I brought up, do you think this pushes the Ray movie into the background and possibly leading the Ray movie to being canceled at some point
Starting point is 00:52:18 and some conversation about that? Or do you think she'll be appearing in this movie? What do you thought? What is your sense? What does your gut tell you? My gut tells me, no, that Daisy would not be a part of this. I don't know if the character would be. You know, I know we discussed.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Right, we had discussed that in the past. I can't say for certain. I haven't heard too much about that other Ray movie lately. And I can tell you I will be dropping other Star Wars scoops this week. Possibly one on the show on our show tomorrow, John. You know, I do want to connect with certain folks first. But yeah, there is definitely more Star Wars news to come. But nothing that I can really think about as far as like the Ray movie is concerned.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Okay. And what do you think about her taking this role? Like I know you said, oh, every kid dreams about being in these films, but there's also the reality of where you're at in your career. Does this make sense if Mikey Madison was to accept this, to take a secondary role, for lack of a better term, in a big Star Wars movie when she's just won the Oscar for Best Actress, not Best Supporting Actress, Best Actress.
Starting point is 00:53:30 So this seems like a little bit of, and I know she's only 25, but still, if I was her agent, I would be like, I don't know if this is the right move, especially a brand that's a bit wounded. right now. Yeah, but with Gosseling, I feel like this is maybe the Star Wars movie to be a part of. Okay. Particularly with Levy's track record. I mean, you know, right after she won the Oscar, like I think we talked about, you know, boys from Brazil. I think that it's just, it's not, she doesn't need to go and be the lead. Yeah. And I also don't think
Starting point is 00:54:01 that she's the kind of actress where you can bet on her to open a movie. Like if you're a major studio. Fair point. Fair point. You know, I don't think she's at that point yet. I think she just needs. I think she just needs to be a part of projects that get her name out there, that get global audiences more familiar with her. And after a role in something like Star Wars, that's when you can cast her as the lead in a big studio movie. Right. Because audiences will be more familiar with her. They're not necessarily familiar with her just because, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:25 an or one best picture. Right, right. Good point. Mike, anything more you want to say on this? Any more of sticking out of you on this? That's a, this to me is like the biggest casting that I think, like, They has perked people up that would like, oh, this is a different type of Star Wars film. Yeah. So that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Yeah. Yeah. And I wonder, you know, Jody Comer played what? Ray's mom, right? Isn't that right, Ray? Was she raised mom? I should know that. I should know that, but I don't need to anymore.
Starting point is 00:54:56 She could play the older version of Ray. And that may be who, what she, if there's rumors about her being in the movie, if you're not going to get Daisy to be in the movie, maybe you age up Jody Combs. to play the older version of play. I don't know. I don't get any sense that Jody Comer is being eyed for... For this movie? Anything like...
Starting point is 00:55:16 No, not... She could be eyed for the movie, but it has nothing to do with the character that she played for. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. Fair point. Fair more.
Starting point is 00:55:23 All right. So, yeah, that's the juice. And again, I will have more in the newsletter this week on Star Wars. So if you're a fan of the franchise, I don't think you're going to get a ton of news out of celebration. Gosling, I'm told, will be there. Wow. Oh.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I think they are going to confirm his casting and everything. So, but yeah, I don't think you're going to get a lot in the way of other news. But, you know, maybe this story shakes the tree loose and the trades start reporting on some of the names on the list and the offers and things like that. Okay. All right. Sounds good. Jeff. Anything more to say on this?
Starting point is 00:55:55 Are you good to go? No, just watch the hot mic tomorrow afternoon. I know Johnny will be there, but the rest of you guys, be sure to tune in and subscribe to the newsletter. It was tax day this week, guys. it screwed me. So I appreciate all the help I can get. And we'll see if this Mikey Madison thing works out. But thanks for having me on.
Starting point is 00:56:11 I appreciate it. Absolutely. Thanks for stopping by, Jeff. Good seeing you, Jeff. Good seeing you. Likewise. At the Insider. Go theinsider.com to subscribe to his newsletter.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Help a brother out pay his taxes. Absolutely. Thank you. Take care. Bye. All right. That was Jeff. Just pop it in and drop a little scoop.
Starting point is 00:56:27 That's why you never know what could happen on the Christian Hall. I feel honored to be a part of that little drop there. That's pretty awesome. I mean, I like this idea. I like Mikey as an actress, and maybe sometimes you do have to realize that not everyone is out here being cutthroat with their career. Sometimes it's the smart move to go like, let's go have some fun on a Star Wars set. Let's play a certain role and then, you know, let's just enjoy and get the paycheck because this one's probably going to make a lot of money. But I'm like you were saying, Mike, I like the people that they're attracting for this kind of movie in terms of the level of acting.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Star Wars is like, they're in a rut. They got a whatever, you know, it's just tough. We talk about this a lot, Harleu and I. Like, Mandelorian Grogrew, I think will do well. Yeah. Just because they're so, but again, that's going to be a nice little jolt, but you got to get that patient back on, you know, you got to get them back because that thing is dying.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Right, right. Yeah. Well, let's, before we move into the questions here, by the way, we're at 94 superchial. Oh, come on now. Thank you, guys. That's insane. already. But I want to, before we leave the world of stars, I want to hit this one last story here.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And thanks to Jeff Snyder for joining us here. But this other story came about here, which is interesting to me. And I want to see what you think about this, Mike. But, you know, we got Andor season two coming out next week. That's what we're six days away from it coming out. But apparently, according to the San Francisco Gazette, there's a Star Wars horror project in development according to Andor creator Tony Gilroy just last month. Andor's short run and Tony Gilroy stated that he wanted to see more diverse offerings from the world of Star Wars, not diversity, diverse offerings, two different things, such as three-camera sitcom or horror project. Speaking SFX magazine back in March, Gilroy specifically said, quote, I always fantasized that the show would break new ground that someone would be able to make a three-camera sitcom in Star Wars or horror movie.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I think the first thing I said to Kathy Kennedy when she said they wanted to open a line was, could you do a courtroom drama? And why not? We've worked really hard on Andor to make our lane, and it's up to other people now. define another way to do it certainly they teased a bit of a courtroom political drama in uh asoka but didn't see it all the way through with mon mothma uh well business insider recently caught up with gilroyd red carpet premiere for the latest season of star wars and attempted to follow up on gilroy's comments and to their surprise gilroy revealed that he'd recently learned that a horror project
Starting point is 00:58:51 was already in the works they're doing that i think they're doing it i think that's in the works yes said gilroy when asked about the direction he'd like to see the horror project go in gilroy admitted i'm about what should be done. I mean, I was riffing when I said, oh, do a three-camera comedy show. I was riffing and sometimes riffing doesn't work with the Star Wars community, but the right creator and the right comment and the right vibe, you can do anything. The vast and ever-expanding galaxy of Star Wars long-activated audience with its tales of epic heroism, thrilling space bottles and the battles and the timeless struggle between the light and dark sides of the force. However, a new wave of excitement and speculation is
Starting point is 00:59:26 currently rippling through the dedicated fan base thanks to Gilroy's comments. The prospect of venturing into the darker corners of this beloved universe, specifically through the lens of horror, has ignited a fervent discussion about the untapped potential within the franchise. Imagine the chilling possibilities. Could we witness the iconic Jedi Knights facing a terrifying undead horde? Their lightsabers clashing against shambling, reanimated falls in a desperate fight for survival. That sounds cool.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Or perhaps a fallen Sith lord, a figure steeped in malevolence, and wielding the power of the dark side might find themselves in the unexpected role of an anti-hero, forced to confront an even greater more primordial evil that threatens to consume the very fabric of the galaxy. The narrative avenues, the narrative avenues that a horror-infused Star Wars project could explore are seemingly limitless, promising a fresh and potentially terrifying perspective on familiar themes and settings. Fans are eagerly anticipating whether this intriguing possibility will materialize into a concrete project. And the upcoming Star Wars Day on May 4th looms large on the horizon. So, Mike, we just finished talking Star Wars with Jeff and his scoves.
Starting point is 01:00:26 So your thoughts, do you think a horror movie would make sense in the Star Wars universe? Yeah, I think, I don't know. I think it could. I just don't think the powers that people. He says, you know, he's sitting there saying that it's going to happen. So I just think the powers that be would not let it go that way. Oh, okay. I mean, it's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:00:46 People like a real hard are Star Wars. And I think, I think at the end of the day, whether it's Disney, the company just goes, no, it's not Star Wars. Right. They got to think of that. They got theme parks. They've got merchandise. It's like, put it,
Starting point is 01:01:03 be in there, sure. Right, right. You know, but then again, I look at like Daredebel and what they've done now
Starting point is 01:01:07 with Disney Plus. So it could happen. Yeah, the where we just don't. Yeah, I just don't know if it would. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 01:01:16 I think they are maybe kicking around the idea to see how they could make it work within the Star Wars universe. Of course, it all depends on Kathleen Kennedy, right? If she's not sticking around, who's going to take over to be the creative person, there and essentially the guiding hand there.
Starting point is 01:01:30 So if that person thinks a horror is something they can explore, I mean, maybe they do a one-off like they have the Disney Plus specials for Marvel, where you have a one-off where the Jedi confront a couple of Jedi or some Jedi confront a city and a planet full of zombies and for whatever reason there in Star Wars. I mean, why not? I mean, if you can have clones for fuck's sake, you're going to have zombies. Yeah, but didn't they do an Asoka? like the stormtroopers were zombies at the end there yeah yeah yeah so they kind of did it i think
Starting point is 01:02:03 i think that's when you do zombies that's how it's going to be it's going to be some kind of scyth magic that makes them kind of be like but then they've got their stormtrooper arm around so it's not really that terrifying right right yeah yeah maybe maybe i mean i i see the success of and or certainly the first season we'll see what happens with the second season but the first season and that got into some really dark themes not horror but some dark themes of rebellion and subjugation and an empire stepping on the throat and fighting back. But yeah. I just think when I look at it, the grand scheme of things, like for the longest time,
Starting point is 01:02:37 and I think Lucas was doing it, it was going to be like a bounty hunter series. Like focusing on like the outer rim, just bounty hunting hunting. And then it's like, yeah, we're going to take that idea. We're going to make Mandalorian. I'm like, okay. All right, yeah, this first season, this is kind of like an old Western. Right. And then two years later, we got Lizzo and Jack Black tearing it up.
Starting point is 01:02:56 So it's just like, well, that idea. have a really cool Western didn't really pan out. So here we are. So I sure they might start with zombies that are awful and terrifying. And then it's going to turn into a village of Ewox that they're, you know, taking refuge with and the Ewarks are beating the zombies with sticks and, you know, stones. Right, right. Very real possibility.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I know. Yeah. Well, we'll see. I think it all depends. You said, the powers that be and if they'll be it down with doing it. But we will see. But yeah, a lot of Star Wars news in the show today. So hopefully that gets you guys.
Starting point is 01:03:27 exciting a Star Wars celebration starts in two days, Friday morning. It's kicking off with the Mando and Grogu panel. It's only an hour, but there are no rumors that they got to drop a trailer. They have got to drop. If they don't drop a trailer, come on now. But I guess, this is it still a year to the movie, or is it this Christmas? I think it's later this year, I thought. I thought it was this Christmas.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Yeah. They've got to drop something from that movie. Yeah. No, no, it's, yeah, it's next year. Sorry, it's coming out in next. 2026. Yeah, 2026. Oh, maybe they won't drop anything.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Right. May 22nd of 2026 is supposed to be. Still over a year away. Wow. Well, maybe they won't drop a trailer. But just dropped on Twitter, the Mandoverse, Mando 3 updates, at Mando 3 updates, said the Mandalorian Grogo trailer is ready to go and rumored to be released tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:04:19 The source is Grace Randolph. So I don't know if that will happen. I don't know if it will happen. No. So I guess I better stay up until midnight for this other one. Can't have the content too much on the channel. All right, anyway, there you go. That's our show.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Let's get into some of these questions here, Mike. We've got 100 super chats as we're starting off. Thank you. Insane. Everyone who got us over to 100. Thank you so much. That's insane. There's a lot of Derek Johnson support.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So thank you, Derek for all of these. Eric. You're the best. Hank Kim, Hank Pimp comes in, Shinhati, hottest Star Wars character of all time. Oh, thank you. He likes the dark stuff. Yeah, I don't know if I would. I mean, I kind of have a thing for Daisy.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I'm for Daisy. I don't know. Would you, can you comment on that, Mike? Most attractive, like the hottest Star Wars person for me? Oh, God. Maybe he's. Oh, I take it back. Bix from Andor.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Adrian Jona is. Oh, yeah. No, you got it. Bix. Yeah, done. They showed her pictures of her on the red carpet for Andor. My gosh. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Yeah, Bix. I was thirsty. All right. Time inspection says, part one. John, I enjoyed your Daredevil Bornigan reaction. Oh, thanks, man. I may be in the minority, but I wasn't a fan of that handkerchief scene as soon as I saw it. I thought, oh, they're trying to one-up Netflix's door scene.
Starting point is 01:05:39 We haven't seen Thanos do that. He'll just choke a bitch. And yes, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that cop could be a member of the Coppola family. Are they foreshadowing for season two? I think so. And yes, I want to be an apartment 23 to be pregnant. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:54 A lot of strong comments here. Did you end up seeing the finale? I haven't seen it yet. I'm backed up with me with Daredevil it's like it gets spoiled within an hour yes and it drops at six on the East Coast so I'm usually at work so Twitter gets destroyed I was like you know what I'll binge it when it all comes out so I'm stuck I just finished three right episode three so I'm like now it's out I'll watch it all because it was it wasn't worth it to try and keep up and not be spoiled so yeah I'll just enjoy it now fair point man fair point yeah as he said as Simon said
Starting point is 01:06:27 my reaction is up on the channel. I dropped it this morning. You guys want to watch me to react the entire finale. It's there on the Outlaw Nation channel. Simon Section says, leave the alcohol for me. Also, are any of you going to watch any movies specifically on IMAX? Myself, Superman Soups versus Kaijo, a Kaiju, rather, FD6. Oh, yeah, Final Destination 6, R.P. Tony Todd. And of course, Fantastic 4.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Last time we saw Galactus on the screen, I was lost. I'll say this. I saw sinners on IMAX, and I think that's an incredible experience on IMA. and I've heard warfare is amazing on IMAX. I saw it a regular theater. I loved it, so I can't imagine seeing it in IMAX. So, yeah, I'll be seeing some films in IMAX. Whatever you, Mike, do you need that direction?
Starting point is 01:07:09 Mission Impossible. Oh, yeah. That's usually the only one I have to see an IMAX. Great choice. They are, man. Yeah, they're awesome. I saw the amateur on IMAX when I drove up to Burbank recently. I thought that was great on IMAX.
Starting point is 01:07:22 And Thunderbolts is coming. I'm sure that'll be on IMAX. All right, Derek. more support for us Derek thank you so much support for mike and roka he says thank you Derek getting us over that hundred mark you're the best oh man Derek yeah thank you uh joyous rumor says may the force be with you guys but support for roxy oh thank you julius thank you they love their roxy they do more from derrick thank you derrick thank you derrick thank you Derek, Darren Wright.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Hey, my brother there in England. Ezra's Sacrifice in Rebels, my favorite Star Wars moment ever. Ooh, wow. What do you think? My, did you see Rebels? Was that your thing? I didn't.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Okay. All right. I do like the sacrifice, Darren. I still, I just went, rewatched Luke getting his hand cut off and saying, no, no, when he says, I'm your father. I still think that that's the best moment. Nobody, nobody, nobody saw that coming. Nobody.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Yeah. Derek again, thank you. Kyle Wilson says, hello, buddy, boys. Mike and Roca together epic oh there you go we're like the we're like the mega powers you can't bring us together not every time yeah no can't do it every time gonna blow up the world joy petrus love this duke mike thank you buddy uh Derek again more support thank you Derek Kyle says uh roca versus Mike debate worst thing about airports who Kyle I'll be honest with you pal I like airports I love airports I really so if I get a big layover I don't mind it
Starting point is 01:08:48 three four hours i like to sit get something eating what people watch get myself a anne anne's pretzel and sit there and watch people i love it but for me i guess i don't know man like usually the security is pretty good it's gotten really good especially at lax yeah i usually fly out of burbank so it's a great airport um yeah i don't oh oh oh oh i got one go ahead brother certain because of all the airports are kind of uh i guess they get their concessions from somewhere yeah certain airports only carry Pepsi products. Oh, yes. The Burbank airport is only Pepsi and it drives me crazy. Oh, look at you. Like, cannot drink Pepsi. I hate it. So if I can't get you diet Coke, man,
Starting point is 01:09:28 on my plane, it sucks. Yeah, fair point. I think the worst thing at airports for me is when they call a certain section and then everyone tries to cut in front of everyone else in line as if we're all not getting into the same tube, as if we're all not going to be, we only have assigned seats. I don't do the Southwest thing. So I always go assigned seats. So I always go assigned seats. seats. And so the Southwest is assigned seats now too. Is it really? Oh, I didn't know. Yeah. Yeah. But what do you got? What's your problem? You got to, you're getting on it. Yeah. You're getting on. You got your seat. You're getting on. Yeah. It drives me nuts. People angle, like, as if there's some, they're working some kind of thing out. And then they almost
Starting point is 01:10:04 challenge you to get mad at them. Yeah. And then it's like, I think maybe they want to get their bag. But then again, if your bag doesn't fit, they're going to carry it on for you and you want to pay for it. So exactly. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Oh, frustrating. Also those bathrooms. Darren Wright says bought tickets, bought tickets to the Stranger Things Play today. Have you guys seen it all? No, I didn't even know there was a Stranger Things play. Didn't know. Last night when I was rummaging through Netflix and there's a behind the scenes on the making of the play on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:10:30 But yeah, it's apparently a musical or something. Have you even heard about this? I have not, not even at all. Yeah, no idea with it. I don't even know if that's in L.A. Derek Johnson says Godzilla X. Kong is definitely bringing the aliens in Next kind of hit it with Godora. but Destoria is 100% created by aliens in the lore.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Oh, interesting. That could be a nice twist. Jesus, we go to outer space on this. Oh, God. Zeus Fleming, hey, boys, I hope everyone's doing great sending support. Thank you, Zeus. Good to see you there, man.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Derek Johnson says Godzilla falls in the same category that Transformers does. Get rid of the people we don't need them. I don't disagree with you. You're not wrong. Yeah, exactly. Thank you for more support. there. Derek. Kyle Wilson says thoughts on the blue origin space flight. Uh,
Starting point is 01:11:19 I got comments. What do you want to say? Mike? Do you want to say anything or not? I mean, like it's the same thing that that William Shatner did, right? Yes. He went up. Yes. The people bagging on it, I'm like, why, man? Like, we're going to space. We're getting people into space. Like they're like, oh, girls, shows that, you know, they didn't do anything. And they're not a dashed us. I was like, who cares? We're traveling to space. Like, like, that to me is making, like people when they complain about airlines and airplanes, like, we're flying in a metal tube in the air. Like just when you step back for a second and realize how incredible that is what we're doing, 700 miles an hour in a metal tube and we're, and now they're going into space, like we're
Starting point is 01:11:59 getting closer to it. Like, yeah, the science. I mean, and I, and anyone mentioned about that, you know if you were giving the opportunity, you'd be up there in a blue jumpsuit. Right, right. Sitting there, doing exactly what they were doing. So I, why they hate? I think for me, it was, I, I had no problem with them all going up i thought it was great to have an all-female crew going up and some of the people were like some of their actual astro a couple of them with actual astronauts or had been up there before you know you get katy perry you get gail king it's a good mixture diverse mixture of people there and going up there my only issue is they lean too much into the being glam and lauren sanchez talking about her eyebrows or eyelashes whatever it was so when
Starting point is 01:12:37 people are getting fired from nassah women are being removed from their head positions at nassah i think it would have been better if they'd gone up with that commentary instead of a commentary about like being glam in space but your point is correct the fact that the people are even going is amazing and should be appreciated i agree with you on that brother thank you derrick thank you derrick more support from you thank you car wilson says internet versus mike debate worst thing about the internet don't freeze oh there we go there we go every time nice that's right thank you derrick appreciate it uh go pal says the kid from deadpool two just did the Y2K movie with Rachel Zegler and the kid from Metal Lords.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Yeah, that's on Max, I think, right now, the Y2K movie. Yeah, so there you go. The kid from Deadpool, too. Oh, right. Yes, because he's made the best friend. Yeah. Yeah. Again, if you guys did Y2K, if you want to see Y2K,
Starting point is 01:13:32 if you want to see an interview with me and Kyle Mooney and the other co-director on the film, it's up on my channel, the Outlaw Nation channel. That was a fun conversation with those guys. I like Kyle. Derek Johnson, thank you, Derek, for all the support you're sending through, man. Really appreciate it. You're an amazing dude. You're picking up the slack for PLD who sent us nothing.
Starting point is 01:13:52 It's Houston Five. Exactly. Jake is from the Houston Five. Jake says, finally saw Catherine Rick, a Brave New World on VOD for $25. It wasn't that bad. How does VOD sales affect the film's overall financial success? Is it added to box office stats? I don't think it's added to box office stats, but it is.
Starting point is 01:14:10 added to the overall finance of it, like what they make and the success, right, Mike? I believe so. You know, I don't, those numbers I don't know, so I cannot speak to it. Yeah. Well, I think it's just like buying the movie
Starting point is 01:14:26 when you buy it a physical copy. So if you buy a digital copy, the money is still showing that people are interested in it and it goes into the overall. Yeah, but I wonder if that goes, though, with the Blu-ray sales or the domestic box office. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Because it's not a box office. You're not going to a box office. Right, right. So probably not. And what if you're buying it in England versus buying it in the United States? Is buying it in England the international box? Like, is that at the international total or not? So yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:56 There you go. Good point. Thank you, Derek, for more support. You're the best, brother. You are the best. Oh, Sean McCabe coming in with that beard of his. Hey, God, Debbie, Wednesday. Warfare was incredible.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Yes. Last night's Daredevil episode, forget about it. Christian's been right about this season the entire time. Well, I would- What's he been saying? What's he been saying? What's wrong about it? He's never, he's been enjoying the whole season. I have not been enjoying the whole season. I think it's a little back and forth in terms of the quality. But the last two episodes have been fantastic.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Yeah, I thought of the first three, I was just like, because I know episode one was the new version. And episode two and three were the original one and two. Yes. And I was like, well, I like two and three better than, I don't know if this reboot was the right idea, but apparently now seeing the reactions to these last couple, it was the right choice.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Yeah, yeah, I agree. Derek Johnson says, I watched magazine dreams and my God, Jonathan Majors is a generational talent. I understand all the other factors going on, but strictly on talent, the man's a force. Well, sure.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree. He's an incredible actor. I didn't see magazine dreams. It was gone out of theaters within two weeks. You know, it's interesting. that movie, I remember that there was kind of a big groundswell about it. Yeah. Recently, oh, this is, you know, this, this and this.
Starting point is 01:16:14 And I was like, oh, this guy's going to, you know, maybe pull a comeback. And they got that out of the theater so fast. Yeah. Unless people just didn't go to theaters to see it. If it was doing well, people, they would have kept it in the theaters. No, it grossed a total of $1.1 million at the domestic box office. Yeah, I think people, you know, it's interesting because I know there's a lot of people that view this way about Tom Cruise. They look at his personal life.
Starting point is 01:16:37 you know and they just can't separate it so but that's just his religion right you know with majors personal life if you can't separate it you can't separate it so yeah and then the story came out timed right around the release with the audio of him oh where he was it was like i did aggressed you or i yeah yeah yeah what he says like well i think that heard it as well yeah and using that like i the term i aggressed you i'm like this is yeah not good no thank you Derek, some more support, appreciate it. Ronetta W. said, what's up, fellas? What's up, Renetta?
Starting point is 01:17:12 Hope All is Well. Have you seen sinners yet? And what did you think? I can't wait to see this movie. It's 99% Rotten Tomato. Wow. Rotten Tomatoes, wow. Michael, you haven't seen it, right?
Starting point is 01:17:24 I haven't. I'm a Michael Bejorn guy, though. I love that guy. So I will see it. I haven't seen it yet. Yeah, I saw it on, what's today? Wednesday. I saw it on Monday night.
Starting point is 01:17:34 And I thought it was incredible. I drove 50 minutes to see. it way down by the border and I don't like to go by the border at all and I drove down there to the AMC Plaza Bonita and I saw it in a IMAX theater in a room
Starting point is 01:17:48 full of people. It was amazing. A lot of people were there. It was incredible. The film was incredible. I think it's the most, I think it's his greatest film yet. I think it's, yeah, I do. I think it's Michael B. Jordan's best work as an actor. Haley Steinfeld has ascended to another level
Starting point is 01:18:04 in this movie as well. Woonie Masaka, Delroy Lindo. Everyone is fantastic in the film. And Jack O'Connell was the villain. Man, whatever Angelina Jolie thought she was creating there by making him the lead in unbroken, he is now finally realizing
Starting point is 01:18:20 the promise of his talent. Yeah, it's true. That was that movie with her. She kind of discovered him and put it off of it. Yeah, yeah, she gave him that lead and no one had ever heard of him. And people liked him. He was in that money monster one with George Clooney and
Starting point is 01:18:33 that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now I think we're seeing him like really come into his own. He's incredible in the film. But yeah, honestly, this is a, this is a master work from an Auteur. Yeah, Harloff was saying that he thinks it's, it's, um, Googler's best film. Yeah, yeah. I think it should be nominated for Best Picture, too, but it won't because it's a vampire film. I have two, my camera says that weapons teaser looks absolutely stunning.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Yeah, that looked good, the weapon. Is that Craigor Weapons one did as well, yeah. That was with the kids being kidnapped, right? The house and the people are disappearing. Yeah. Derek Johnson. Thank you, Derek. Mark Long, MDL, says, what a duo. Hello, everyone. That's right, buddy.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Yeah, that's right. I have two, like him, this mission of Boston, we would do $650 million worldwide, not that popular, in my opinion. I don't think so. I think the whole thing. Talk about it. Talk about it. What do you think? Well, I'm torn because Fallout was on such a high note, you know, and it had grossed
Starting point is 01:19:30 most of the, they've never made a billion. They never come close to him, but they don't. It's not, you know. Yeah, it's not the thing. But then fall, with Dead Reckoning, I thought it was a better film than Fall Out. Mm, I'd agree. Whereas I think Fallout's a better action movie. But Mission Impossible, it's not just action.
Starting point is 01:19:47 You've got to have a great story. And I think it was a couple things with the fact that the Barbie Oppenheimer just got swallowed up by that juggernaut in the middle of that he lost all that IMAX theater, which he was real kind of pissed about. I think the killing of Ilsa. Yeah. I think that turns some people off because they love her in that series. I think this one, they've got a great, like we were looking at the numbers. He's got a good couple of weeks with nothing major in his way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:18 I think this does probably, and especially if the word of mouth is good, I think of high sevens. I think with the way they've talked about this film that it might be his last movie. Yeah. For this franchise. which I don't think a lot of people believe, but enough people might believe that they would go see this movie and fool themselves
Starting point is 01:20:42 because we like to fool ourselves says that we like to be part and then like, oh, of course he's back to do another one, you know, but I think enough people will fool themselves to go see this movie or want to go see this movie. And there's no, as you said, there's no Barbie, no Oppenheimer.
Starting point is 01:20:56 I think we're looking at 850 to 9 for this one. People love Tom Cruise. Top of the Maverick made that, made that money. I think people want to support him. It's funny. The comment, I think you're saying
Starting point is 01:21:08 the WWs like worldwide, not that popular. I disagree. Oh, yeah. I think he's bigger internationally is in the states. I think the states are where you find the people that are like,
Starting point is 01:21:17 ah, is his Scientology. I can't deal with it. But outside this world, and I think if you look at he's doing all these press tours, he does America, he does these states last. He hits those press tours because he knows they love him internationally.
Starting point is 01:21:31 So he is on my bucket list. man. If I ever got five minutes of Tom Cruise, I just retire right up. Take his brain and just talk. Watch him talk movies, yeah. Can you imagine being stalked on Elvarez with Tom Cruise for an hour? Like, just to talk about stuff?
Starting point is 01:21:45 It made me amazing. Amazing. I'd be happily, go clear with me. I'll sit there. It's funny. Any story that he talks about, and anyone that says, like, I got to talk to him. Like, he laser focuses and totally doesn't like, like, you're the person, you're the only person in the room and he'll talk whatever you want to talk about.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Yeah. So I think that's great. I agree. I agree. Thank you, Derek, says training Bousson, Don of the Dead, two of my all-time favorite zombie movies. Oh, yeah, Train of the South Korean film. You ever seen Train? You haven't seen that one, right? Nope. I saw Don of the Dead, though. Mm-hmm. Don Dead, good, very good. Yeah. Thank you, Derek again.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Go, pal says, I love seeing Skins alumni and new stuff. I'm a big evangelist for all three casts. Nicholas Holt, Daniel Kaluja, Jack O'Connor, Kai O'Calloree, Hannah Murray, etc. I don't know Hannah Murray, but the other four absolutely big fans of them as actors. Especially I feel like Kaya should be bigger, man. I mean, she was great and crawl. She does good work whenever I love Krah. That was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Kaya is an excellent actress, man. Derek Johnson. Thank you, Derek. Darren saying UK peeps have no shame. The darker, the better. Yeah, I told you. Yeah, for the horror stuff. 100%.
Starting point is 01:22:55 What's that one shallow grave? That's a brutal horror film. Derek Johnson. Thank you, Derek. Darren Wright also says, shame on you, PLD. These men are role models. Thank you, Terry. Finally, somebody pushing back on PLD.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Derek also says, no matter how I feel about the lack of story in Cap 4, those action flying sequences were special. Oh, yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, I went scenery, he's surfing the, surf in the missile. That was pretty good. It was cool. That wasn't the problem. Yeah, agreed.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Derek says support. Thank you, Derek. Go, pal. see my dead friend Zoe I really liked it now I haven't seen that one did you like I don't even know what that is dude my dead friend Zoe no yeah that's another zombie
Starting point is 01:23:44 like from where though I got never even heard of that there's so much out there right now yeah it really is yeah dead friend Zoe came yeah the one with um Sinequo Martin Green and Natalie Morales And it's, Natalie Morales is a woman living her life. And I think Sinicua Martin Green was her best friend in the military. And she gets killed in an explosion while they're serving.
Starting point is 01:24:08 And so she is dealing with the PTSD of her friend's death. I never even saw anything about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was from director Kyle Hausman Stokes. It got good reviews. I just haven't got a chance to see it. It's on prime video if people want to rent it and watch it. I will get around it because I like Natalie and I like Siniqua and military stuff.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Derek Johnson, I'm a diehard DC comic fan, but MCU has been good to me for over a decade when DC gives me something to be excited about I'll be there. That goodwill will carry me until I see four or five flop movies at the level of the old DCEU. Okay. I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Look, he doesn't feel that the DCU, the old, you know, they haven't had, Marvel hasn't had flops like, you know, DCU's kind of really bad stuff. I get it. I get it, man. Yeah, man. guess where are you at right now i mean you're you know we haven't talked in a bit you're the you're the
Starting point is 01:25:01 big dc guy are you are you excited for what's coming of course like i'm not a superman guy okay yeah you're right right from everything that has come out casting has just worked for me like everything is working for me i feel james gun has what he's done with guardians the galaxy and then this and then suicide squad like i i i don't understand the hate i am i am torn because i'm not torn i'm not torn at at all. Yeah. But I, as everyone knows, I'm a, who's a very big Snyder fan and very big supporter of those films.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Yeah. Yeah. But I also said, if DC wants to work, they need to start over fresh. Yeah. They need to read it. And I, there's some couple things that I'm like, gun has stuck with. I'm like, you got to get rid of peacemaker, man. You got to get rid of Amanda Wall or you, those are, that's the old.
Starting point is 01:25:48 And I get, you kind of came in in this transition. Yeah. So that's why you've got in people that are hating on it or they're like, well, you're not going to keep cavalry, but you're going to keep her. Right. And the character level is not even remotely close. Yeah. I am torn on the Batman.
Starting point is 01:26:02 I think the Batman needs to go away, regardless of what's happening with it. Well, you think the Matt Reeves Batman needs to go away. I think I think Reeves, whatever he's dealing with, if it's a personal issue or something, I just, if Superman land. Okay. I should say this. If Superman hits, they need to get their Batman going. Okay. They can't wait on their Batman.
Starting point is 01:26:23 If it doesn't hit, then they've got the Reeves. universe and just take your time with that right but it's just such it seems like all the things that have been hitting with the you know oh we really like clay face for reeves batman that's oh but like we use them in our can we let's redo it and we're going to put it over here yeah colin farrell's the penguin's awesome yeah but could it be sergeant rock for us all these things with this franchise they're perry they're cherry picking out of it yeah i just i just feel i don't know man I just. I mean,
Starting point is 01:26:55 something's going on. And again, I think it is a personal thing. I don't think it has anything to do with the script. Yeah, yeah. I think there's a personal, and that is a,
Starting point is 01:27:04 hey, you don't know us anything. You don't know us explanations. You don't know anyone, anything. I agree. Take care of that, man.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Right, right. Because I think Gun is sitting there going, hey, man, I'm going to do a Batman, but I got to get them out there. Your Batman is still golden. Whenever you're ready for that,
Starting point is 01:27:21 we'll go and you're elseworlds it, but right. now I have to do this Batman and we got to go. Yeah. But you never know. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great point.
Starting point is 01:27:30 And Jeff said last week on the hot mic that he thought that if Reeves doesn't get it done by the end of the year, that they might move on, that D.C. will move on. I'd be really surprised by that. I think they do. Yeah. Okay. I think they do. Eric Krempe, Krenpa says, Mike, I graduated from Springs in 2000. I went to prom at your old stoppy grounds, Douglas.
Starting point is 01:27:49 I was dying. It's a dog grass story. I had a similar situation during Matrix Relo. at worst theater ever. Oh, dude. Yeah, I told a story last week. I had a, I was seen in my submission impossible too
Starting point is 01:28:00 in a theater with my girlfriend. And this guy would not shut the hell up. So I just stood up in the middle of the theater. And I go, dude, are you ever going to shut the fuck up? Crowded theater, opening night. And I sat back down and like, oh, my God, what did I just do? Well, congrats, man. Are you, so you're Doug?
Starting point is 01:28:16 Are you graduated from Coral Springs High. I was a Douglas grad. Right on. 93? 94. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Good for you. Good for you. Anybody who talks too much during a movie, you got to show. He was like one of those guys trying to impress his girlfriend with the jokes he was making throughout the movie. And I was just like, all right, I'm done. I got to deal with this, Betty. He's talking to a Tom Cruise movie.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I'm going to lose my shit here. Yeah. I was seconds away from Michael Douglasson falling down with this guy. With the baseball bat. Oh, God. That would have been great. Oh, Jake Yacaveta's in here. He says, I usually love talking trash to y'all, but just saying hi, sometimes just need a little love when you're over 50. Well, neither one of us is over 50. So I don't know what you're talking about. We're 35. And both of us look better than you, Jake.
Starting point is 01:29:06 So please, what are you talking? Let me get my glasses on here. Now we're set. Oh, of course, there we go. Now we're better. There is. Now you're good. Derek Johnson says, super disagree with Mike L.O.L.
Starting point is 01:29:17 They're doing 35 projects and maybe four of them could be called bad. That's still a high batting average. When they hit DCU batting average, I'll be concerned. Derek, I'm agreeing with you, man. DC has had many more losses than wins as composed as compared to Marvel. I just think Marvel has been in a slump post-end game. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:36 You know. And I think there's more than four of them that have gone that could be called bad in the Marvel universe, honestly. But we'll see. Thank you, Derek, for some more support. Go pal says, I can't say the Lord of the Rings books are terrible because I only finished fellowship after three attempts in 20 years so I didn't start two towers two towers is the most dense one to get through of the three so I don't blame you I don't think I'll ever try those books it's a lot and there's nothing wrong with that there's nothing wrong with that I love the movies
Starting point is 01:30:08 and yeah all right uh Noah C says support this is the dynamic duo I am here for oh thank you very kind that's right buddy boy Derek also sending some support uh go pal drop it in the first 50 pages of fellowship or maybe the second most boring thing i've ever tried to read after island of dr morrow who you tried to read oh try to read island of doctor in my head's like oh uh you should see the first 50 minutes of the fellowship movie it's just as boring as well in my opinion in my opinion uh thank you derrick thank you derrick thank you derrick thank you derrick and he said support Port, very good trio. Always great to see Jeff come on.
Starting point is 01:30:51 I see he's not J-Dog today, no glasses and no two buttons down. L-O-L-L. Yeah, no. He'll save that for the hot mic, for sure. Corn Emperor is saying, I'm loving this trifecta. Thank you, corn. Are you still figuring out your things? Sorry, man.
Starting point is 01:31:05 You good? Okay. We can't hear you, so I'm sure you'll have to select it. Hear me? Yeah, there you go. Cool. There we go. Go passes with Mickey's RE News.
Starting point is 01:31:18 bringing it back to skins. Kaya Skedilaria was the lead and last Resident Evil movie, which I thought was fine. Oh, she was. I did not see that. So, yeah, I'm not surprised, though. Kai is an excellent actress.
Starting point is 01:31:30 All right, Derek, thank you. More support, more support, more support. Derek, you're the best. Look at this. Derek, just knocking it out of the park with all this support. Trying to give you love, brother, man. He said, just my contribution to 100 at least.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Well, we got there. We're at 119 right now. Woo! Amazing. Michael trying to help us out. Mike Kalanowski himself. Old man Mike says, I'll say this. Let's get to 100, your bunch of bums. Thank you. Thank you. There I am. Supporting the channel. There you go. Derek says you're not a bad luck charm, Mike, L.O.L.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Yeah, I felt like I was taking step down there for a while, but I think I'm the good luck charm now. You are. Absolutely. It's always goes in waves. GoPel says, Adrian, John is the hotness in real life. I agree. But they downplayed it. Well, they had to. Oh, come on. Now you had to with that. I mean, she was being tortured, for God's sake. You see those, those getups?
Starting point is 01:32:25 They put her in there to frump her up as best they could. Yeah. She outshined, uh, Diego on a heartbeat. I know. Dennis Hoffman says, uh, Jack O'Connell is the goods. Been a fan since 71. Oh, that's right. I saw 71 in a theater there.
Starting point is 01:32:42 It's Sunset 5. I remember that one. Wait, 71. Yeah, 71 is, is a, is a northern Ireland, uh, film where I thought that was the Chadwick Boseman baseball movie. Was it 42? 42, yeah. Jagger Robinson. You fellas watch his show S.S. Rogue Heroes
Starting point is 01:33:00 Fields up Miles Alley. No, I haven't seen that one. Even though there was a film show that he was in. Simon says, I have a bad feeling that the character of Ryan Gossing may be playing as Cade Skywalker, Power Bonnie Hunter, Smuggler, pirate, Captain Jack Mando versus Bob Bobba. But I hope to God he's not a Skywalker.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Yeah, they said this was a standalone thing that they're not going to connect. I hope to God. Yeah. I think you might be off on that assignment because it they're making it really clearly they want this to stand on its own two feet. And I haven't feel like Sean Levy wouldn't want to just come in and connect it back up to the Skywalker saga. So yeah, we'll see though. You know.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Eric Johnson says TSA precheck is the best. Oh, for airport stuff. Sure. If you can afford it. Simon Sactions has got my tickets for sinners tomorrow. We'll be seeing it on Dobey Seats. Going to lift my legs up, take in the movie, and drink me a bloody Mary. I might go see it again this weekend.
Starting point is 01:33:57 I love that movie so much. I might go see it again if the theater is not too full. Mike Joyce, the Wall Street Journal just revealed how Elon Musk plans to father a legion of kids before the apocalypse. If you had an army of children, what would you do with that power? I don't want a kid. I don't want kids. It's too much, man. I got two dogs and that's too much.
Starting point is 01:34:20 And I got a Legion of Kids? Do you imagine a little Legion of me running around? It'd be terrible. Oh, my God. Elysne of Kalanowski's. Terrible, man. Oh, come on. All walking around going, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Let me ask you this. Hey, Dad, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, champ. Hey, champ. Popping. Popping, billion little champs running around. Dad, where's that? You're going to pop me open a crispy boy, dad.
Starting point is 01:34:40 I need a Diet Coke. Christ. I would love to have an army of children. I don't want to father them. I'm with Michael. I don't want to father them. But I would love to have an army of children to take over the world. Absolutely, 100%.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Make the world a better place. Dude, legend M. 600 says, dude, you guys together is awesome. Ha ha, peace. Absolutely legend. Thank you, legend. Derek says, how damaging is the Blake Lively issued of Ryan Reynolds brand as a whole? He's a tough one. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:12 It's his wife, and he sticks by her, and he's kind of towing the line with around this whole thing. And there's another report that just came out recently about in Baldini's. favor yeah the um the female crew member you know when jeff and i were talking about the story way way back when it was first beginning to break um we had heard from a couple of sources on set and i think we said that on the show that this was they were very much in baldini's favor and that blake was uh fabricating the stuff uh to take control of the movie and these were people on set and so i mean i'm not surprised that someone from the set came out and said the same thing so Yeah. Yeah. I think it's damaging his brand, but like Michael said, it's her husband. He's got to stand by her because they can't not say anything.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Right. That would damage his brand. I think he's fine, regardless of what happens. I think they're fine. Yeah. Yeah, who knows? He's a famous white dude. He's going to be fine. JJ Skywalker says John and Mike for the win. Thank you, JJ. I appreciate that. Dare I says, John, you doing a mania, sleep along, surely watch along this weekend. Yeah, absolutely. I will be doing a watch along this weekend. And I told the lady outlaw to leave town this weekend and go hang out with their sister and their dogs, but she is not doing it. And I said, well, I take no responsibility for 10 to 12 hours of yelling in my office while you're in the other room trying to do other stuff. So yeah, I will be doing a watch.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Also join me live. I will do an NXT one for their thing on Saturday morning and WrestleMania later that day and on Sunday. So if you haven't subscribed to my channel and you want to watch along with me, please feel free to join me. Tyler Pfeiffer says, Have you seen the Korean Samurai zombie show Kingdom? I have not seen that. Samurai zombies?
Starting point is 01:36:59 Yeah. Since when you haven't seen, you saw any thought, you saw everything. Are they Korean samurai? Am I stupid about this? I thought a samurai were really Japanese. Well, maybe I'm wrong.
Starting point is 01:37:09 I don't know. I can't speak. And I fully admit that I'm being ignorant about this if I am. I had no idea they were Korean Samarize. Go Pals says, Hannah Murray was Gilly of Game of Thrones. Oh, right. Is she an adolescence or is that a different?
Starting point is 01:37:23 Gilly. Sorry. Sorry. Oh, I, oh, Gilly. Oh, right. The wife. Isn't she? Oh, yeah. That's right. That's right. Okay. Yeah. I remember her in Game of Thrones. Yeah. Derek Johnson. Be honest with my guys. Don't hold back just because I support. If you disagree, let me have it. I'm not soft shell over here, L.O.L. No, man. Yeah. Dude, you get your opinion. Yeah. Your opinion, man.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Yeah, exactly. And these, we are the last two who are going to be, you know, are going to hold back if we think you're wrong. Yeah. Don't worry about it. I'll tell you if you're wrong, pal. Ewach says, Warfare has a stellar crop of young actors. Who among them would you like to see in a DC or MCU rolled down the line? Or even in Star Wars or as Bond?
Starting point is 01:38:10 I saw a couple of the, you know, it's funny, we're reaching that age, I'm reaching that age where there's a whole new crop of actors that are always in film. that I don't usually see. Yeah. I'm not, like this, the guy playing Johnny Storm, he was in Stranger Things and, oh yeah, Joseph Quinn, yes. Yeah, like he's a generational actor that if I was 20 years younger, I would have been all about knowing who this guy was.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Right, right. Because he'd be in the films that I see. So all these guys in this movie Warfare, I know Polter, Will Polter's in it. Yeah, Will Polter's in. I really like him. But other than that, there's so many new young faces that are just not, not familiar with.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Joseph Quinn is in the film as well. Yeah, I know. You just mentioned Cosmo Jarvis from Shogun. He is in the movie. Finn Bennett is in the movie. Michael Gandalfini, who is in the Deadpool show right now. He's in the movie. A lot of young actors in the movie. A Noah Centennial comes in halfway through the film. Yeah. I know. Yeah, he was the recruit on Netflix. He was going to be He-Man there for a little while. Yeah. Oh, he was
Starting point is 01:39:15 Adam Smash. He was in the, yeah, Black Adam. movie that's right yeah so and charles melton is in the movie as well charles is uh the guy from the film with um uh was it natalie portman was it and julian more recently on netflix that we got all the oscar buzz but didn't get nominated for anything but yeah so a bunch of great young actress kind of similar to black hawk down with all these yeah yeah yeah that's a great example like black hawk down when i saw that like i knew all the actors right even the new the younger newer ones yeah yeah i was aware of they all were male that's a great great analogy yeah i wonder i mean i will throw this out there because cosmo jarvis would be a very interesting james bond i think with his
Starting point is 01:40:00 you see him in things outside of shogun there's a real daniel crag energy to him that i think would be really interesting if you were to go that direction with bond so that'll be my choice that throw in there um derrick says total agreement with mike i think it should have been a complete overhaul but I'm still going to give this new iteration a shot, but it feels like they learn no lessons from the old DCEU. We'll see. I don't agree totally with that. I think they are doing a lot of right,
Starting point is 01:40:26 but there are a couple of choices so far that I'm like, you're not sticking to your guns. The complete reboot is not a complete reboot. Yeah, exactly. You've got to be honest. You're cherry picking. Right. Instead of doing a full review.
Starting point is 01:40:41 And his wife is surviving as well. Denver Holland is being fired over as well. You've got to understand. And again, it's the vocal minority, but they are the ones that are upset that like, well, oh, it's, oh, you're only going to take these people, but not these people. Right, right. And then like, peacemaker is like, well, the events did happen and season was suicide's what happened, but it's vague to the people involved. So they don't just cut it out. And it never happened and you're starting over.
Starting point is 01:41:05 Cut it out. Just cut it out. But they're going. We'll see. PLD's in here. PLD projects. This support is for Mike only. You mentioned my dad friend Zoe and not mentioned Ed Harris for shame.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Oh, Ed Harris. That's right. I don't even know the movie. Yeah, I didn't even know who's in the movie. Wow. All right. I'm sure you saw it, PLD, so I'll defer to you on this one. But yes, apologies for not mentioned one of the great actors ever at Harris.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Dancing Dog 60, I snuck egg rolls into a theater. Oh. Egg rolls. Oh, dude. Get the hell out of here, dude. You imagine this guy's stinking up. He's probably got a shrimp egg roll next to you. duck sauce look at a duck sauce and grease at his crotch oh right only what foods have you snuck into a theater
Starting point is 01:41:52 none because i eat popcorn like a civil adult i get my bucket and my soda and oh no here's one broke i'll talk about you you clowns so comic con last year yeah we all go and uh he's either gbeer vogle got us all tickets to Deadpool wolverine oh nice you that yes we go we're going to get nine in the morning I drove down to see you guys for this one. Yeah, nine in the morning and all these clowns, Roca, Vogel, McClung, the geek buddies, they're ordering breakfast. I got McClung next to me with blueberry pancakes
Starting point is 01:42:25 with blueberry compote on top and powdered sugar. Someone's eating an omelette next to me. At nine in the morning, I'm trying to eat popcorn watching a movie, and these clowns. They're breakfast, sausages, and grits. To be fair. To be fair. I did not always.
Starting point is 01:42:41 I did not always. or any breakfast food because I didn't know they even served breakfast in that fucking theater. I'd never been to that theater before. So I ate before I went down, but I did get popcorn. But yes, you were right. You guys know the Gondas and McClung. You could just imagine the smorgas board
Starting point is 01:42:57 of breakfast foods that was on these tables and the smells wafting it over popcorn and grease. True. The princes got themselves paid. The princes, the princes. Little Lord, Twonteroy over there. His ex-Pennedict. So good. So good.
Starting point is 01:43:13 Derek says they completely reset the DCU animated universe in 2023 with tomorrow verse in preparation for creature commandos and you're right Mike there's been a slump in the MCU yeah Derek I'm with you on that that tomorrow verse was going strong yeah yeah but it was like it was like seven or eight films and they had to wrap it up with the crisis thing because they're like oh well we can't keep these going um but yeah yeah yeah yeah I didn't know I didn't even know they reset it so I'll have to watch that yeah they're like seven or eight films they're good though but it's all the same animation style so it works it really blends in well I gotta see the Batman Ninja sequel as well because I like that first one hopefully they do better subtitles on that Philly G thank you Philly G appreciate that
Starting point is 01:43:57 Noah S has just finished the pit by far the best show of the year so far probably won't be beat Michael would you agree I've not seen I've even watched it no I've only watched Shannon's scenes okay so I'll tell you this like I'm not a medical drama guy I think the last one I watched was ER and I watch that because of Clooney and stuff like I love the cast So Shannon's watching it.
Starting point is 01:44:15 My Shannon, she's got it on and first episode. And I'm like, oh, I'll pop it when Shannon comes on, our buddy. And then three episodes later, I'm like, oh, this is, this is awesome. Then two days later, I come home and she's watching. And I'm like, oh, is this the first episode of episode of four?
Starting point is 01:44:29 So like, you know, I'm on episode 10. I was like, I thought we were watching this together. I made her go back and watch all seven episodes. And then we just finished the past five. Dude, let me tell you something. When I watch movies and I don't, I'm not critical of actors, because every actor has their own opinion on what they would do.
Starting point is 01:44:47 But the actors on this show and Noah Wiley in particular, and knowing the dialogue that he has to deliver, the performance he has to give him, knowing that he's in almost every scene. Like Emmy winning, like he needs to get an Emmy. This show needs to win the Emmy. It's insane.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Like I am enthralled in this show. Like I haven't in a very long time for a TV show. And I can't stand medical stuff. Yeah. They showed up pregnancy. That dude, I'm never I don't never ever I'm not okay no but it is awesome yeah Noah by far the pit is phenomenal okay okay it's so good yeah you got to watch out of time I got it's great no wily man yeah
Starting point is 01:45:26 someone said it's the wire it's the wire of medical dramas and that has made me yeah interesting I kind of someone said er where it meets 24 and it's yeah but everyone is just so good even these like there's just one guy's names langdon in the show he's like this is like his first acting credit he's he's a theater guy wow he's phenomenal he's so good yeah and i've heard there's like brand krasn's daughter is in it yeah uh and uh brad dorif's daughter is in it so like there's a lot of strong acting talent throughout yeah yeah i got a i got to watch it darren writes is a gosling has to play ben canobi oh he could but it's already it's already it's already Ken Ken Ken Knobe. Oh, Ken Ken Knobe. Oh, okay, I guess.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Dennis Hoffman says, Roka, TSA Precheck is like $100 for a five-year membership. Come on. L.O. Well, Dennis, the next time I do a live outlaw nation show, you can send me $100 and I'll sign up. I'm not leaving this country for the next three and a half year. I am not leaving these shores at all. It is too dangerous for a Latino son of immigrants to be traveling in this, outside the country right now. So Derek Johnson, John is like 75 bucks for five years for pre-checking. Oh, you know, you're motherfuck. You're giving your bargains there, Roka. 75. Anyone got 50. I got 50.
Starting point is 01:46:46 I have 50. I have $50. I have $50. $50. Why don't you and, uh, why don't, Derek, what don't you and. Roka, I'll tell you this. I'm on the same buck as you. I don't have precheck, but I'm going to go one up worse than you.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Okay. For Christmas, not this year, the year before Shannon, yeah, my, Shannon gave me a hundred. dollar visa card she's like this is for tsa precheck because i haven't have to wait for your ass every time i haven't done it yet i'm lazy i'm just a lazy guy i've got a gift card for it i'm just lazy yeah i don't have i have it but i'm not i'm just lazy yeah we were supposed to travel uh uh later this summer but we ended up canceling our plan so i don't need it but at some point down the road i will need it i'm sure because i want to travel uh darren writes john you okay yes honey just
Starting point is 01:47:39 shouting it meaty man slapping me hello yeah that's right that's for the mania this weekend absolutely no she she never asked if i'm okay she when i walk out to get a drink she's always like why are you so loud what is going on there that you need to be that loud i'm like you have no idea tyler piper's is not samurai just best way to explain about the korean oh so they're not samurai good good i wasn't culturally insensitive thank god all right eric crempa says roka i believe you said this in the past, but I'd love to hear Mike's take that Schmode and Orlando was the best live event of all time. I was in the room, just incredible.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Well, I don't know if Mike feels similarly because he lost. No, I don't. I lost. Yeah. I think he's the best event ever. Fucking lost. I'm going to hear with that bullshit. No, let me see.
Starting point is 01:48:22 My best live event was either, I'll tell you, which was a good one for me was me. And it was me versus Cushing where I took the belt and it was in ComCon. Oh, yeah. But it was bad, but the audience. We just had a small audience because it was Comic-Con. And it was off from outside of San Diego. It was like half hour away. So it was just, it was like Saturday nights.
Starting point is 01:48:43 It was after Hall Age. It was just a bad time to get crowd. But that was a good one. But then the last big one we did, I was a really good one with beat Parker. That was a good one for me. Oh, okay. Or the Four Horseman reveal. That was something I wasn't involved in.
Starting point is 01:49:00 That was a pretty damn awesome. That was the next. But no, Orlando is not the best live event ever. I mean, it was, it was, it was for me because I just enjoyed being down. And I was so nervous. I really thought we were going to lose to again. Like, I just really thought it was going to happen again. And I didn't want to let Dan down.
Starting point is 01:49:18 And I just was all up in my feelings. But like, Dan was so amazing. And when, when, What's his Face won the manager bowl, no one saw Finstock winning that bullshit. I was like crazy. I'll say this with that one. Even though losing that match, it wasn't one of those ones or afterwards I was down for the whole night.
Starting point is 01:49:33 No, no. You went out of yours. Like, oh, we lost, okay. But it was such a good match. You respected the media.
Starting point is 01:49:39 Losing sucks. Yeah. But if you lose in a good match and you just lose because you didn't know it, that's the best. If you lost on a question, you're like, that guy got that question and I got this thing bullshit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Those are the worst losses. But if it's a fair one the whole way and you just, they beat us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, that's a thing.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Live events are always great, though, especially when live events are awesome. They are. When people are in the crowd. And all the hate you get online does not show up at the live events. You know, when you show up with L.D. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Even PLD gave me a ride in Houston. So, I mean, like, even he was gracious to me in Houston, for God's sakes. I was in there with a bunch of his other larger fellas. So it was a tight squeeze. It was a tight squeeze. But we got there. No, I agree. But, you know, Orlando was a fun time.
Starting point is 01:50:28 It was great. The horseman reveal was great. Yeah. But I hear you, Mike, because I will never get over losing the retirement match the way I did to Dan because I knew the answer and I didn't say it. And I will never get over that because it could have extended the match a little bit better. It sucks. It's the thing that haunts you, man. Armada says, how crazy would this show be by adding Snyder, L.O.
Starting point is 01:50:47 I mean, the three of us doing a show would be insane. We'd eventually turn on each other and kill each other. But I think it would be until then. Simon says, John, I'm curious, warfare. How does it compare to the saving private Ryan opening scene? and I'm not talking about the funeral scene with the behind the young generation where the tight blue shirt it's cold.
Starting point is 01:51:03 No, it's not even remotely a comparison. You can't even compare it to Save and Private Ryan because that's a completely different film. This whole film is essentially a bottle film. They go, you're in one battle, the entire movie, in one place. There is nothing else in the movie. You're in one place the whole time.
Starting point is 01:51:23 So it's like if you extended out the opening of Savi Private Ryan to be an hour and a half. that's what I would say. Andy Buford, two of the greatest. Thank you, Bergdorf. I appreciate that. Thank you, Andy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:35 Darren Wright says, never snuck food, but I've bought a ticket for a PG-12 then snuck into the 18 film. Forget naked gun three. I want to see Fortress, L.O.L. Oh, my God. Fortress.
Starting point is 01:51:45 That's, oh, God, that's, um. Is that Van Dam? No, no, no. It's, oh, God, I know him. He's, he's raided in Mortal Kombat. It's, um, the French guy. Highlander. The hell's his name.
Starting point is 01:51:57 Highland. Oh, Christopher Lambert. Okay, there it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fortress, yeah, all right. Wow, that is. Oh, Amon also says, you think Deathstroke and Bain movie is still happening? Yeah, what do you think, Mike?
Starting point is 01:52:09 Do you think it's still happening? I mean, I think they're working on it. Yeah. That's what I do like about the DCU what they're doing it. It's like, they're not green lighting something unless the script is great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:22 But there's talk of stuff. There's, you know, we're doing this, we're doing this, but like, we've got Superman, Supergirl. Clayface. That's what's going right now. And I think I think Rock is dependent on the actor. Agreed. Agreed. But they're not, you know, they're talking stuff, but yeah. Yeah. Armada says, genius news pitches.
Starting point is 01:52:40 Finstock is Blake Lively's attorney in the Justin Baldoni court case with JT as the judge. Oh, why. Oh, my God. She's finished before she walks in there. Yeah, she's done. Derek says, we need to donate 150 for you and Mrs. Outlaw. I mean, we can do that. Well, yeah, absolutely. Do it. Make it happen. not on this channel. This is Christian's money. Dancaddle 60 says,
Starting point is 01:53:05 as good as Daredeau is, the fact that Spider-Man never shows up is a little ridiculous since Kingpin has been such a Spider-Man villain in the comics. I'm torn on that, man. I know there's everyone dying for him to meet and those guys to be together. I don't care if they never do. This Daredevil is so different.
Starting point is 01:53:23 Like, I like that Matt Murdoch showed up as his lawyer. I think that was so good. But if they never show up, I don't care. Well, I think fans are a little disingenuous too, Mike, because in the comics, Spider-Man doesn't show up all the time when Daredevil is dealing with stuff, dealing with Gamewoods.
Starting point is 01:53:38 So it's like, why would it happen in live action? I think, I believe, and I mean, it could be wrong, that Kingpin was originally the Spider-Man villain, but they just put him with Daredevil and it made so much more sense. They were just so much better together. Yeah, yeah, agreed. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Like, Kingpin looked with Spider-Man, like, I don't know, man. I think the Kingpin Daredevil is a better combo because you have a man who is hell bent on evil and someone who is hell bent on trying to do good in the world and trying to change it and is very Catholic guilt. I mean, here's something like when he showed up in Shehawk, I was like, all right, how are they going to do this if it's the same guy? And it did work. But now you see how they went quickly away from that version. Right. Yeah. Born again.
Starting point is 01:54:21 He is a different. The suits are different. And they did enough to go, yeah, that happened. but we're not yeah that that that that's the west coast stuff right over here i i did that he's a different guy when he goes over there exactly you talk about code switch uh derry johnson says i agree john it's a rough time to travel i bring my passport and id now just in case yeah we got to get the what is it the new id one you have to get by me i was trying to talk to someone about that the real idea it's got a star on it and i'm like yeah you got to provide you but they want you
Starting point is 01:54:54 provide financial records or what was it you got a visa with $200 for some place to go or something weird I know it's weird you get my passport that's what you got exactly I got my passport I keep it that way all right well that's everything that's all the questions Mike 137 question oh Jesus we got one more from Derek he says that Clayface movie has a chance to be really special if they treat it seriously it uh I don't know I wish it had I wish it had I wish it happened with I wish the same thing it happen with Swamp thing maybe how are we going to make sure that money goes to your precheck uh you donate when i do a live show on my channel or do the hot mic come down on the hot mic 4 p.m on Thursday when we go live on on the show there that we go the best way Derek for god's
Starting point is 01:55:38 but yeah i mean it could be clay base i mean yeah that could be fun could be interesting see how it all plays out my thought i had said this to harlough when we talked about last week i think if the cards line up right i think they do the clay face movie and that's when they announce who the Batman is in the DC like he pops up at the end and that's their kind of big announcement yeah i think that would happen yeah yeah i can be really wrong i agree i agree all right 137 oh wait one more derrick says real oh do you just go to dmv though get you a new one i know i know i know that all right that's it 138 we got to go thank you all so much you guys have been amazing big shout out to mike kalnowski brother great stuff with you
Starting point is 01:56:22 Always good to see it. Please let people. Always a pleasure. What are they can find you, brother? Thank you, man. I'm Mike Klanowski. Simple, easy. That's where I am.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Do you have anything coming out? Hey, I can say this because it's you. Mm-hmm. Because Harloff, you know, he has a problem about my Twitter and stuff. Like, you get me. We're the same with our mouths online. So here we go, Twitter. That's where we're at.
Starting point is 01:56:41 Yeah. You can play it safe. And you got to use it. You can play it safe or you can stand for something. And so Mike and I put our balls out there sometimes with our posts. It's just who we are, you know? And nothing against how Chris does it his way. We do it our way.
Starting point is 01:56:54 Hey, that's exactly right. But I know it's you and I right now. We can pump that to it a little bit. Exactly. He's like, Jesus Christ, if I could tick away your Twitter, I would. I know. He says it to me all the time. And I go, why?
Starting point is 01:57:05 You want to milk toast me too? No, thanks. No thanks. Let me be me. All right, Mike, great to see you, man. Take care, brother. Bye, friend. See you, buddy, boy.
Starting point is 01:57:12 Bye, guys. All right, there was Mike Kalanowski hanging out with us today. We got a couple more that rolled through here. Thank you. Andy Bergdorf and Carver Tate says, Thank you both so much for being helpful distraction during this terrifying time. Thank you, Carver. Thanks for letting us.
Starting point is 01:57:25 You know, people, you guys are so kind when you come into our shows. And I hope I can speak for Christian Harlef when I say this on my shows as well, my channel as well. When you guys thank us for distracting you, entertaining you, making a laugh, first of all, thanks for being patrons of our shows and watching our shows and giving us views and likes and comments and all of that. But the second part of it is thanks for letting us entertain you. thanks for letting us be in your lives thanks for letting us uh you know distract you from the madness that's going on in the world because we're all feeling it we're all going through it um whatever you're feeling maybe whatever side of the fence you're on and all this stuff i think everyone's feeling the pinch in one way or another so the fact you allow us to
Starting point is 01:58:08 entertain you and take your mind off things and distract things that's an honor for us that's a blessing for us so you know thank you for letting us do that so i just want to say that to everyone who says that. So thank you, Carver. You're the best. As for me, you can follow me at the Roka says on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok and Blue Sky and threads. I'm on all of that there at The Roka Says. And if you want to subscribe to my channel, I'd really appreciate that. You know, I'm at 37.4. We'd love to get to 50 by the end of the year. We're already in April, so I've got to get a move on and could use your assistance.
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