The Kristian Harloff Show - EXCLUSIVE! Young Avengers WILL be a DISNEY PLUS SERIES instead of a MOVIE!

Episode Date: November 22, 2024

EXCLUSIVE! Young Avengers WILL be a DISNEY PLUS SERIES instead of a MOVIE! Welcome back! On this episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, we have an exclusive that Marvel fans won't want to miss. The powers that be at Marvel have decided to make the Young Avengers a Disney Plus series after all, instead of a movie! Is this a good move for the MCU? We dive deep into the implications and what this means for characters like Kate Bishop, Wiccan, Hulkling, America Chavez, and more! We'll also break down the Young Avengers comic, their origins, and how they fit into the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe. Who are the Young Avengers? How do characters like Loki, Iron Lad, and Vision fit into this team? We also discuss other hot topics like Kraven The Hunter, James Gunn's confirmation that Deathstroke, Batman, and Peacemaker are canon, and we touch on the latest news surrounding Marvel Phase 5, Wandavision, Scarlet Witch, and Avengers: Secret Wars. Could the Young Avengers be the next big thing for the MCU? Tune in to find out! All that and more on today's live episode of the show with Kristian, Winston, and Coy! #dc #dcu #avengers #oungavengers #marvel #mcu  OUR SPONSORS: THE PERFECT JEAN: F*%k your khakis and get The Perfect Jean 15% off with the code BIGTHING15 at http://www.theperfectjean.nyc/BIGTHING15  #theperfectjeanpod  AG1: So make sure to check out DrinkAG1.com/BIGTHING to see what gift you can get this week! That's http://www.DrinkAG1.com/BIGTHING to start your holiday season off on a healthier note, while supplies last. JOYMODE:  If you are looking to take your game to the next level, visit http://www.TRYJOYMODE.COM and use code BIGHTHING at checkout for 20 percent off. That's T-R-Y-J-O-Y-M-O-D-E.com and use code BIGTHING  for 20 percent off your first order.

It is Friday. And what a way to start Friday than with an exclusive that we got. We got it. And we'll talk about it. I don't even think coy who's joining me knows what the hell we're talking about today. We've been talking about the Young Avengers for a very long time in this show and our somewhat difference of opinion of what it should be. Should it be a movie? Should it be a streaming movie?

Well, it's going to be none of those things. It has been, at least if you believe my source, which I do. source says it is a streaming show it's a series they're going to do a young avenger streaming series so we'll discuss that that's the right way to go we also have um some news when it comes to james gun he's been talking a lot about a lot of different things we're talking about the superman trailer and the hype that it's getting so we've got that we have the craven the hunter director says hey give our movie a chance please we know that sony stinks but goes a chance um so that more on this episode of capes and cows with myself and coy jondro today let's do it everybody it's the show it's the live

show i'm excited so are you great welcome back ladies and gentlemen to the show it is the capes and cow show sorry about the lack of that intro there the honest answer is i just completely forgot to hit the button so this is that laughter you hear is the jovial coy chandro i like your glance away glance back you're like i'm gonna i'm gonna give them the truth i'm gonna tell them really have that that's static was me got to be honest you have to be honest um so we are here today you and i don't know where winston is um think that he is not able to do it uh we just got a text i think he might be able to join late if you want to check on that there's a possibility of Winston while you look at that i want to announce at the top of the show the biggest news of maybe the year isn't necessarily our exclusive it's

the new kendrick Lamar album oh yeah that's what i heard dropped this morning i heard that just it might be album of the year i've only heard it once through it's But it is true West Coast hip-op. Dude, it feels like it feels like what the game was trying to do when, obviously we lost Tupac, which was like the voice of West Coast hip-up. The game brought it back in a real way, but like it's the linguistic clarity of like Riza mixed with the West Coast beats of the game and T-Pazoo-bye. Like, you're going to love it, dude.

It's incredible. I want to hear it. I'm excited to hear it. You're cracking just a little bit on your sound. I don't know if that's- See if I can do anything about it. Yeah, see if you can do anything. While you do, I'm going to tell you, first of all, Corey, you got a shot.

now because you're by yourself right now so you got a shot to do something now listen step is in the driver's seat again this could be the third week in a row however attainable goal this this week 79 you can do 70 you're not yet but i can't hear you again now now whatever you did now i can't hear you again so your sound is just wonderful i got to tell you mike's camera is the worst your camera's pretty good your sound is probably the the worst we've got thus far but you're doing a very good Charlie Chaplin type performance right now. So while you work on that, I'm going to tell you guys what I'm hearing. And then we shall discuss.

As I mentioned here in this picture, The Young Avengers, I think I can hear you, Coy. Can I hear you? Is this clarity? Yeah, I can hear it. All right, the Young Avengers. So we had been talking about this, Coy, for a little bit, that the Young Avengers, we didn't know if it was going to be a movie. We didn't know if it was going to be a movie for Disney Plus.

well I have heard some pretty I don't do the scoops I don't do the scoops unless I hear something I'm like oh well that's interesting and this particular person who I talked to is someone who has told me things and I've gone oh well that's come true and that's come true and that's come true so I am hearing that this is a show it's a it's a full on show that they're going to do so they're really the details that I have but it is going to let's see the I don't know where the hell I put my phone But it's gone. I don't know where the hell my phone is. Friday. It's Friday. It's Friday. From coast to coast. But from what, from what I'm hearing again is that this is going to be a show and we're going to get, you know, the people that, the two main stars that you know, whether it's Haley, Hayley Seinfeld and, help me out, Ms. Marvel.

Amman Valani? Amon Valani is going. that we're going to get them and then i don't know how many episodes i would assume limited that's what i heard as far as those things go um but do you think let's say you believe me you believe my source is this uh something that you think is the right play personally i think it addresses a lot of our concerns about like younger generations not loving to go to the theater and that being kind of the demographic they're you know aiming at i think it addresses the last of cohesion like maybe they can do some more world building on a show so we can have some more time with these characters I've always felt that young Avengers and the defenders and certain characters felt more like fun and light-spirited and that might suit long-form TV better than a movie like you'd be able to have a fun six hour six episode maybe they're 40 minutes each but like some kind of lighter spirited show with this cast I honestly I really like this idea I think that these shows when you look at

the averages the shows aren't doing as well on average as the movies they can use a big win and this can show a big investment having the word avengers in a show might give some some credence some weight to the show so i i overall think it's a great business move and a great narrative move yeah the other thing that i did get um was that the development phase is officially going to start in early 2025 interesting so whenever whatever the hell that's like soon i mean that's like in six weeks well that's the beauty of doing uh of doing a show is that the show that when you put a production and if you put it in 2025 that means that we're probably going to see it in 2026 and then in that so that's what we've always discussed if you were going to do a film and you were going to do

the young avengers when does that movie come out how do you get that movie out in time right and the risk of it being a hit not hit this guarantees you if you put this series out in 2026, it can align up to your Avengers films and everything else that you need to do. Put the Young Avengers in the Avengers movies after they've been in series. They could have a scene. They could have more scenes. Depending on how popular it is, whatever it might be. You can still have them involved in it a lot more where everyone's going to be involved

now in this big, huge Avengers, the last thing. Then it would make sense put the Young Avengers in this thing because they had a really, you know, they had their run in the series itself. and they can really make them pop. If they do, if they have the writers that come in and do a really good job on this thing, this to me is the right way to go. It is, and I initially said,

do it as a Disney Plus movie. Doing it as a series, we already had both, if they are both the leads of the show, they both had their own shows. They both did very well on their shows. They both were probably the best part of their shows. So I think this is absolutely 100% the right.

And it looks like this makes, If this is indeed the case, Marvel is paying attention to how to make these things work and not just, hey, we need to try to make money here and then not make money because they're making the wrong decisions. I also think it's a good opportunity narratively, as you mentioned, to set up secret ores and the Avengers movies, if we have time with these characters before we see them in a team up, will care a lot more. And I think the highlights of the shows are these two leads so far. Like when I think of the positive elements of phase four and five's TV, it's absolutely Haley Steinfeld and Aman Valani. So if they're the leaders and then that gives them even more time to set up secret wars, we're going to care way more about whatever fights they're in in that big event.

Yeah, I agree. So I really want to see what happens. I really want to see what happens with this. I want to see if they even announce it soon. I want to see if somebody says, hey, that idiot is wrong. It's talking about me. And I don't feel like they will. I feel like this is going to be something that is whether,

I don't know when they're going to announce it, but I think that they, I think this is a right play. I think this is smart. And I'm also very excited to see who they wind up putting, not only in the, in the leads and all those and more people, because you're probably going to see the kid from,

from Wanda, I mean Wanda vision, from Agatha pop in there too. Yeah. Right. So now that you've had it, that's another reason. I wonder if this was not told me,

but I wonder if because, because they had success with that. And it was pretty like that they said, okay, why don't we now, let's start work. What's our next series? Because what is their next? What are the next series besides Daredevil? They've got the White Vision series,

which is apparently like the third in that trilogy. So Vision we had introduced in Wanda Vision in the White Vision form. And then we have all the Agatha characters. So I feel like they've, I've heard rumored that the third of that trilogy is White Vision. We've got Iron Heart. We have, obviously Daredevil and that stuff is bringing in a new energy but I feel like

Wonder Man is going to be the last of the we already filmed this we're trying to figure out what to do and then it's kind of open season I feel like next year is let's have everything come out that we already said was out and we've already filmed most of if not all of and then 2026 is the rebuild so I know we've been saying that for years but they greenlit so much in 2020 and 2021 like we're just now getting takes time to make this stuff so I know it I feel like a broken record saying like It's about to be all the new era, but I think next year is half and half. And then 2026 will be the stuff that's been greenlit since their course correction. Yeah.

And it's also, and it's one of those things to put, because Ironheart comes out in 2025. Yeah. It would also make sense that if we repops in the way that they wanted that she would pop up in this series. So it's a good lead up to all the things that they want to do. And Elijah Bradley, hopefully in cap four. Like I hope there's, you know, some more. Because we didn't really get to know him and he's important. Right.

So you get more. things so it's this really lines up it really really lines up and it as opposed to if let let's say let's say that it turns out that my source is wrong and that this is indeed they're going to do young avengers but they're going to do a movie so and they're not doing it on disney plus they're going to put it in the theater well where in the world does that fit and how does it fit timeline wise with the sheer density of stuff next year and then the following year is when the Avengers stuff kicks off. I feel like Thunderbolts, if they call it Dark Avengers or not, is effectively next year's Avengers film, which means the next three years we have Avengers

movies. We've got Thunderbolts right into, you know, Doomsday, right into Secret Wars. Where would a young Avengers even fit in the scope of how big and important it would need to be? And how would you shoot it? And how much time? Because you put, you start doing a television show. It gives you enough time to shoot it in the beginning of 2025 and have it edited and put out by 2026, right? And then you can have it be an event on TV, which they need. I haven't felt like Disney Plus stuff has felt big or important in a while. No. And so if you do a movie, then it's like, okay, well, we're doing a movie. That's the first step, right? All right, well, who's directing it? And then there's the announcement of who the director is. Okay, we have the director. Well,

we have our stars. We know our stars are ready. So we have that. And now we're going to do some more casting and some more casting and some more casting. Here's a production. Here's everything too. we're going to start shooting the film in the end of 2026 or 2025. We're going to start filming the Young Avengers movie. It's going to take you a good year and a half maybe, depending on if you need reshoots and all those other things. Because with filming TV, you film an episode and you film another episode, you film it, but then they're getting edited,

so you can still be editing past episodes while you're shooting new ones and all that stuff. And so it's just way more conducive for your time. if you're trying to lead up to a big event to do it this way. So when I heard this, I said, this is definitely, to me, this feels like 100% legit. I also feel like Joe Locke and that whole generation's talent, like the people I don't know that well are way more, more Disney Plus-centric. Like we talk about whether or not young people go to the theater as much in things. I think this is a cool way to test if Disney Plus is viable by aiming at the audience

that doesn't love the theatrical experience as much that is more familiar with these stars. Like we know Haley Steinvild, I mean, I've known her from like true written pitch perfect, But I feel like the rest of the cast is, is younger skewing the young Avengers. So I'm really curious if this tests well for like the Disney Plus model. Yeah. And I think that that's it. You cannot go wrong with having those two as your leads of this television show. You would assume it's going to be a mini series.

You would assume that it's a limited one off series. You would assume, but it doesn't. Not a guarantee. And like I said, I didn't hear that. But you would assume, but you can't go wrong with these two, especially look, they only shared the screen. for maybe 45 seconds in the post credits and it was electric yeah 100% and they were both clearly the shining lights of their things that we knew would be electric and then it overwhelmed

expectation like that was one of my favorite moments of that experience was that 45 seconds me too that 45 seconds was better than an entire movie it felt like the old school post credit phase one where you're like they're gonna what yes we felt like we knew it was coming and then it was even cooler i knew their dynamic already just from watching that scene I could tell already, and it felt like the young teenager who was looking up to the older kid and you see that the conversation that they're having, you're like, oh, I know what that show is going to be. And I really like them both. And because of that, I want to see them. I don't think a movie is the way to go. I still don't think a movie is a way to go. But I think a television show with those two, they've already proven that they can lead TVs. And yes, Haley Steinfeld is 100% someone that is, she's a movie star. She's been in, she's been in a movie. movies. And I'm and I'm and I'm and I'm in the traditional sense of like she can get butts and seats because that's very hard to do for anybody. Um, but she is someone she's been in a lot of different films. She's she's she's great. But, but she, I give her more to do to build that

character up even more. Also, runtime wise. We haven't talked about the fact that it gives them the advantage of not just two hours to have how many characters be introduced or reintroduced. We haven't met really met Elijah Bradley. We only just got Joe Locke as Wiccan fully. formed like these characters need more runtime than a two hour movie would really allow to establish not just the team, but their individual stories getting firmed up. Like we had Ironman Cap and Thor well before Avengers. We need the time to grow into these characters. So I think the runtime is a benefit too. I think it is. Yeah. I mean, that's a one. And it's one of those things that they can put together 45 minute to an hour, hour long episodes, which to me would make the most sense, right? Especially and I'm always an advocate more. I would. much rather have six episodes of an hour than I would 12 episodes of 30 minutes. I would because even though you're like, yeah, but in the long, in the whole duration of it, it's longer. Yeah, but you're, but you're still, you're just cutting stuff off in those episodes. So you're like, that's it. Every time. That's it. Really? I want them to start pacing it like a show and not doing these six hour movies cut into six.

Like whatever runtime is, whatever, you know, number of episodes is, we really got to see lately with things like the boys, Gen V, the Penguin, yeah. That you can make a serialized show feel like it's a show, not like a movie that's had a credit scene in the middle of it. Penguin did both. Penguin felt like a big, huge movie. There was an hour long each episode. Yeah.

Speaking of Penguin, did you see that video of Colin Farrow talking? Dude, it's so funny. And Water Brothers is out there just like tearing in the internet apart, getting to dig it down. Oh, they don't want it. Oh, dude, it's getting copyright pulled left and right. Really? Right.

Yeah. I mean, like, it's the elute. Like he's, I used to want to see footage of Heath Ledger as the Joker as Heath. And now I'm glad I haven't because that role is now like mystical. It's like this mythical like entity that is the Joker separate of Heath. I've now seen Colin Farrell talking as a penguin. I'm like, oh, right, he's an actor. Yeah.

I mean, it's funny when I was talking to Renzi about when I had him on the show and we were talking about, he still, to this day, he still is. He said one of the few people that's ever seen him do the Oz like full character but as Colin Farrell not in like that's like full on like him him as him doing it yeah that's that to me that we won't ever see right but like and I think we're better for it I think we know too much about actors as is and if you have a character that's that developed the less we see of him not as the developed character the more he gets to exist as Oz versus Colin Farrell disappeared I want that to stay like that and it's so rare nowadays because we see so much behind the scenes and interviews and

actors and I loved when Christian Bale used to stay in the character's accent and interviews because no one knew he was Welsh forever. I liked. There was something about watching. It was almost like the penguin was doing a impression of Colin. Yeah, like an Irish accent. Yeah, which is what I loved. And I, I, I dug. What happened? So a crew member recorded it and I'm guessing. And then like some, because that is a small crew that's rapping. That's probably 20 people in a room. So one of them filming was probably like, ah, it's fine. And then posting it is another animal. I just, I mean, I don't know. I haven't like, you know, seeing anything that Warner Brothers is mad. I just saw within an hour a number of TikToks, Instagram, and Facebook videos all saying Warner Brothers copyright. If I was going to guess and it's a question that I would, A, absolutely ask him if I ever

interviewed him and he would 100% probably give you the honest answer. I would bet you that was Colin Farrell going, dude, what the fuck? Get this off. Yeah. Like that was like this is for me. This is my. I don't even think he said this is for me. I think he said this was for the crew.

This was talking to the crew. me having a moment to discuss with them and somebody's recording it i mean i thought that somebody was recording and keeping it from themselves but somebody's posting it and like it's so personal to be like we've spent all this time together let's like celebrate that like there's an intimacy to a good set that i think does get ruined if you see too much of it agreed um so yeah but it was still i'm not going to i still like seeing it but i oh no no i mean i i'm glad i saw it before the tear down i'm not going to lie but yeah it's it's uh it was tough but you know we did we did a watch a lot long or we're doing the MCU watch along with um with sam we just did a incredible Hulk

to put that up today um i enjoy i still enjoy that movie she she felt the majority of the majority of people do and i don't know if you feel the same way she said it's good it's okay um she's like but she was like it's okay but she i think that's the issue is is you can't it feels more like the movies before iron man than the movies after iron man it came out like you know it was the first film to follow iron man and iron man was such a zeit guy a month later a month later yeah and that's crazy like iron man was so evolutionary and arguably revolutionary that it's hard to be like the old style of film immediately after no i know but i i just i i really enjoy that movie i do i love it norton's take on hulk so much me too me too i really i did

and um we so we watched it and then we're doing iron man too we're trying to do one a week of just and i think we'll even have we might even be able to do more um once our schedules kind of open up up a little bit during the holidays but that that's up there and it's like it's amazing though coy how most people most people are pretty great but there's some people on some of these reactions that it's like they they don't listen because like there was some guys like you're trying to tell me that christian is a movie reviewer has never seen this movie you're lying and i go tell me you have not watched the beginning of this video without telling me you have not watched me this video where i clearly say it's Sam's first fucking time watching the MCU.

And I'm like media literacy, man. Attention spans media literacy. Like it's I, I don't like being this old by old man yells at clouding about stuff. Because I feel like the generation gaps just get shorter. But I already feel like two generations from now. I feel like a 50 year old man like these teenagers don't understand. And I'm like, I'm not, I'm only 20 years removed, not 40. Like don't do this to me.

You should have been, you should have been with me at that, at that influence. Dude, I was enjoyed like your texts were so. funny to me because I was working and I'd just check my phone and I'd see like three lines of text of you just like dealing with what I deal with weekly. I think I think one of the texts was please come here and hit me over the head with a potted plant. Yep and I can visualize your needs. I can tell what experience you had had. The mustaches are strong. It's a culture. It was I guess nice. Nice. Now they didn't bother me, but it was. Oh, they're incredibly nice. It's just a different world. I just felt like I was on a different planet at that place. Anyway, we got a lot

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Hey, what's going on, Winston? Nice. I mean, it's, that's fine. I was, I literally was sat there in the middle of you guys talking about the young vendors stuff. I just was being quiet because I was just like, oh, I'm sure they're mid-combo. I had no idea you were in the room. No, I can't check that room while we're live.

I didn't know that. I didn't know. Yeah, no, I've been sitting there the, the entirety of the conversation, everything from about Haley Seinfeld being a movie star and all that kind of But it's okay. Do you have, do you have thoughts on, first of all, because you, you, I'm glad you made it in there for this because you were kind of on the opposite side where you thought it should be a movie. So the fact that I thought, I thought it should be a show leading up to a movie for them. That was what I was saying, as I was like you, if you, especially if you haven't been able to fully flush out the rest of them, you either, A, if they get introduced to like, say in Thunderbolts and then you give them their own thing on the side after that, or B, if you get.

gave them a show to have them assemble. And then the movie is their kind of final thing with that. I thought that that would work. So the fact that they're, you know, I missed you reading the story. So it sounds like they're making a show. I'm here for that. That sounds like a great. The news that I got pretty reputable, the source.

And it just, as we were talking about it, I think you heard us. It just, I think just leads up and makes sense to lead it up this way. right so um we'll we'll see we'll see how that all pans out um and hopefully we'll we'll know sooner than than later yeah absolutely um okay so let's get to the next story here if i can find it i think i have it somewhere um where my comic book movie go where did i go i had it see Winston had it all set up and then you know that's that's a good cool i'll hold the fourth I got it. Okay, I got it. Kendrick Winston, Kendrick Lephan.

That's exactly what I was going to say. Well, we've got this one right here, and that's Craven the Hunter director, wants fans to give the movie a chance, hopes it'll wash away the bad taste left by the SSU. Craven the Hunter is only weeks away from arriving in theaters, but excitement is, well, pretty low. Now, filmmaker J.C. Chander has shared why he'd like the fans to give the latest SSU movie a chance. Sony Spider-Man universe has failed to live up to expectations. While the, were there expectations? While the Venom movies have been box office hits, the trilogy didn't receive an overly warm response from fans or critics,

and both Morbius and Madame Webb were disasters on every level. With that in mind, it's hardly a surprise that excitement for Craven is muted at best. Most fans expect another Sony Marvel movie that fails to do right by the comic books, questioning why Craven, one of Spider-Man's greatest villains, is getting the solo outing treatment rather than being safe for a future battle with the web slinger. Talking to Comicbook.com, Craven the Hunter director, J.C. Chander reflected on the mixed response to the SSU movies that have preceded his and asked fans to give this long-delayed adventure a chance. I don't want to get too into the nitty-gritty of it, but here's what I would say.

For me as a filmmaker, my number one goal, especially quite frankly over the last couple of years, where you guys are deep in this world, some of the fans out there, a lot of the fans are upset with certain decisions and certain outcomes of Sony's Spider-Man universe. Then, with other films, they've gone to be tremendous successes. So there's been this mixed, there's been a mixed success rate. People have got to give us a chance and come out and support this film and literally try to wash away some of the other stuff that's happened. Give our film a chance.

Chandar added, I think they'll realize that we've done everything we can give them, we can give them a pretty fun story. You'll see when the movie's over. There's potential for a lot of things to happen, but my goal was to isolate our movie to protect it and just tell a good damn story. And then we'll have the opportunities do a lot of fun things. This explains why Sony has recently started promoting Craven as a standalone tale, though the same thing happened with Madam Webb, and we all know how that one.

There's a chance that Chander would deliver a solid effort here, but with fans eager to save Craven battle, with fans eager to see Craven battle Spider-Man in place of mutant rhino, it's going to be a challenge convincing them to spend money on another one of these movies. Craven is the action-packed R-rated standalone story, of how one of Marvel's most iconic villains came to be. Yada, yada, yada. Okay, so there's a couple different ways that I feel about this.

The first, Winston, is that this is the director of the movie, saying, please see my movie because I want to keep working, which I get it. I feel an authentic feel to what he's saying, because I think more so than you did, I liked the trailer, the last trailer. and now the trailer can polish a turd. There's no doubt about it.

But there's also the opportunity of what is this is actually good. That being said, I think this movie is doomed. I think this movie is doomed as far as box office goes, not because it's not going to be good. I think he has a shot to be good. I think of everything he's talking about, I think fans have no trust in this Sony universe whatsoever, and there's too many of these movies to try to spend money on

and too much coming up to the holidays. I think they're in trouble, but what do you think? I think that I totally understand the director saying this, both if that was a directive from the studio, but more specifically, I guarantee it's because he directed this movie and he wants people to see his movie. But there's a reason why sports is such a good metaphor for life. If I've watched a team for, I don't know, 30 years not do anything in the playoffs continuously, if I am fully delusional and I don't care, then I'm like, yeah, sure, take my money. but there's a point at which if every single predecessor that came through here has been garbage, there might be a little bit of hope that's in there, but I'm not going to hold my breath because once as an instance, twice as a coincidence, three-time is a pattern,

and Sony has a pattern with these films, with the exception of Spider-Verse, for being terrible. So unless, like, honestly, we'll see it because of work, so then we can obviously spread the word of mouth, but I don't blame a single person that if they don't go opening weekend because they're just like, my man, times are expensive, I'm tired, I don't trust this. If people start telling me it's good, I'll give it a shot, but otherwise, why would I necessarily spend what is on average now somewhere between $18 and $20 for a lot of people around the country to go see this movie? Yeah, it's true.

And Koi, you know, I always use our good, one of our loyal supporters here, Wicked Art, who does the our comic right and i always use him as an example because him and his family they designate and they go okay look this is how we're because it's it's a as a dad it it's it's expensive to take your family out to a night of the movies because you're not just paying for the tickets you're paying for the snacks and all this other stuff you don't buy snacks it's not how it works you go there and you go and you want the whole experience and you don't have a child if you like you're going to be no snacks and so you're going but you're going to the movies and like so he picks out and they say, okay, what are we seeing this month that we really want to see?

We're movie fans. What's going to be? I don't believe Craven's going to be on his list. And he's a comic book guy. But I don't believe that's going to be one on the family's list because they have other things that are coming out, whether it's wicked that is still going to be out in the theaters at that point, whether you have, you know, the Sonic movies that's coming out. You got Mufasa that's coming out. You got all these movies that are coming out. Why does that, oh, I know why? I kept saying, why is this stupid thing going away? I know. Is it all like a timer?

Yeah, it'll stop now. But either way, it's, this is just not going to be on the top of anybody's list. Now, Corey, do you think that it's a possibility that they go, oh, I can't have been missed this in the theater. It was better than I thought. I think word of mouth is the only thing that can really help because there is a connotation to what the Sony universe

consistently has been putting out being not what fans want. But I look at it. at the writer and director more than the studio. Personally, I don't like really weigh on that as much as I weigh on J.C. Shandor's Triple Frontier being great. I weigh on the fact that I like the actors in it. I weigh like personally, I'm always optimistic until I'm proven wrong, but that's like unique to my experience of movies. A lot of people judge by, you know, myriad of circumstances and they'd rather be like, I'd rather not be disappointed. I'd rather hope it's great up until the credits roll. And for me, a studio can make a ton of great movies,

are a ton of bad movies. They're not, they're a part of the pie, but they're not the whole pie. I think the director has a lot to say. I think the writers have a lot to say. So I want to see what mixed ingredients the souffle got baked into. And I totally understand that December is generally crowded, but this December, I don't think the Sonic audience is the Craven audience, because it's an R-rated drama. I don't think the Nospheratu audience is the Craven audience, because that's the other R-rated thing. I think it is in a spot. It could succeed-ish if, word of mouth is exceptional, but not if it's just good. I think the word of mouth has to compensate for expectations. But it's less about them, like, so you're using as example of like, okay, well,

I don't think the Sony, the sonic audience is eating up the Craven audience, right? But the difference is, let's say, so wicked art responded actually. And he said, so it's true that that one's not on my list because we're going to go see Sonic. Right. Now, that doesn't mean that you're wrong. What it means is that they chose and said, we're only spending money on one movie this. Yeah. And that could be a difference too. It's not a matter of like, well, this is in the theater and they're both the same kind of movie.

It's like, no, it's expensive. It's a night out. What are we going to, what, what do we think the value of our dollar is going to do the best? And Sony has not proven that they, they can deliver on that. Any time, Sonic has. Sonic's proven. And I'm super excited for Sonic. I get it.

But that's also why like AMCA list. is 20 bucks a month for most states. So like, I don't understand if you go to the movies more than once, not having that. But I don't know. If you have a family. If you have a family. Yeah. And also, like, how far you're closest to, like, theater that has a subscription services.

But if you go to movies, for me, it's all one price anyway and for a lot of people. So that's what I'm hoping things like Craven get is word of mouth getting the people that are already going to go to the theater multiple times. Hopefully it gets some boost. We got our buddy, the Cosmic Wonder in here today. And what I'm in. He's great. I guarantee you. I hope to see a video on that Young Avengers on his channel.

I love his channel. This channel is great. If you haven't checked out the Cosmic Wonder, you should. He's a great, great channel. And I'll, I'll see what he's, what he's saying is that he would see Sonic over Craven just based on Sony's past films. But I do hope Craven is good. And I'll, of course, be seeing it. It does look a ton better than anything else that they've produced. I don't disagree with that. I think that, you know, I think we all feel that way. But as you were saying before, both Winston Enquoid, he's going to see it because it's what he covers on his channel right so of course he's going to see it that's his that's his bread and butter and that's what he does and that's what he loves so he's going to go see that it's just that's but but me you Winston Cosmic did that's not that's not who they need to get into the theater especially if you consider

I get that Craven is a part of Spider-Man IP but you need to think in terms of the layman and we know that Christian just not even trying to be an ass but I'm assuming you would know because it's in Sony. Did you really know about Craven outside of this movie coming out, honestly? I mean, I had heard through, I was a Spider-Man fan. So like when you guys would bring it up in time, not in the way that you guys did, but in a way like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard it's the guy with the lion thing on his back. Right. But not enough to where I was like so locked in. Right. I would make the argument, even though he is one of Spider-Man's greatest villains, this ain't the Joker where you could get away with that because it's like, well, the Joker is like a name

that everybody kind of knows. Like if you did a Vader movie, people, oh, we know Vader. Like, there are times where villains are that huge and that popular that they transcend pop culture. Craven does not do that. That is comic book fans only, really. And so when you think of that,

you're now asking my two homeboys that enjoy going to see or your cousins and your friends that you've talked about that they're like, yeah, if it's a good action flick, if it's a good comic book, sure, I'll check it out. But I literally had them go, What the hell is a craven? That is not a good sign to try and force people to go when you do not have the trust of the people in what you're doing.

It's true. And if I go ahead, Quay. I just think it's also worth noting that, like, Fox made X-Men Origins Wolverine and then made Logan. If we'd given up on a Wolverine movie from Fox, we wouldn't have gotten Logan. So I think we blame the studios a little aggressively for individual directors because Mangold made. I'll push back a little bit on that, though, Coy, too, because the difference is that you've had, you had enough successful. X-Men movies before that to say like, okay, well, you had days of future past, like a couple, or whatever it was, whenever it lined up, there were a couple good movies in between.

You haven't had a good Sony movie in quite a while. And you also weren't in a place that you are now with Marvel's got stuff coming out every other, you know, it's a different crowded marketplace. I was just saying like blaming the studio. I was just using a studio example. All the rest that is totally fair. Yeah. You can't just put the blame on the studio for a lot of things.

Like the director of Madam Wedd hadn't done a film. and like the there there are other things well but they signed off but they signed off that's a studio no no and i don't disagree with that i'm just saying like i went in judging madam web for madame web sure he's madame web well but i think it's a soup of all of it i think i think it's a soup of all of it because in the same way look this is what i say all the time when it comes to i haven't made a star wars reference yet so i'll do it now um but when but every time people go a disney ruined star wars and it's it's like no Lucas film is ruining star Wars right now. And it's like Disney's, I didn't realize skeleton crew was out this year

until a billboard went up. But also in the same way, what you never hear is this. What you never, you always hear that Disney is ruining Marvel, Disney was ruining this, Fox is ruining this. Foxx. You never hear after end game. Oh my God, Disney did such a great job with Engame. It's Rousseau's Kevin Feigy, like all that. You never, you never hear that. And so that's why, that's why, but the studios, the studios make a lot of stupid choices. They make a lot of good choices. but you never give them the credit on the on the good choices but sony right now is rothman they're making bad choices they're just making bad choices this movie even if it's good shouldn't have been made it just should i like the apple thing is i think of all the time like

with apple it's like man they make really good content man apple doesn't advertise you hear about them not advertising more than how good the actual stuff their green lighting is i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna the the easiest way i can describe sony's decision with the spider versus the whole scenario is the way that my mom loves to use the word ghetto as far as like really defining it. So instead of saying somebody that's, you know, ignorant, low-class, anything like that, my mom would say that ghetto is about taking with what you got,

improvising and just making it happen. And I think what Sony has attempted to do is exactly that, being like, well, we just have Spider-Man. He has a lot of people in there. Let's find a way to make a billion dollars and billions out of this. The problem is, this is ultimately the type of ghetto that is just kind of ignorant and it isn't really doing much.

So again, if they make it work with this, then you can start to build some faith back and then hopefully we can kind of figure out what's going on. But they're literally trying to squeeze, you know, you know, just, I don't remember what it did, water from a stone or whatever the old phrase is. Like, you're asking a lot of weight to be carried on the fact that they are loosely related to Spider-Man.

Yeah. Well, either way, we'll find out. I hope, look, we're all in the same page here. We all want it to do well. We all hope that it's great. The chat talking about how bro it is, I think is an asset too. We haven't had like a hyperviolent bro film in a bit, like just like a jacked dude ripping shit up. I'm excited for like.

You know, you know what? It reminds me of, but a much better produced version of it was Dolph Longman's Punisher. A hundred percent. Right? And that's what I want. There is a void for that in the film space, not just the comic film space. I think that's why Rebel Ridge did so well is like, bros want a bro. And I want to see it.

I want to see it. I'm curious about it. I want to see how it does. I don't, I hope that I'm wrong with this next statement. I don't think it's going to do very well. I like Aaron Taylor Johnson a lot. What did I just see him in something good? Oh, he's in Nosferatu.

He's really good in Nosephranza. Yeah, he's in Nosephrates. That's right. That's right. And he's really good actor I root for him. He's got such charisma and he's such a, like he's got movie star bravado. Like when he came out at the New York Comic Conn panel for Craven, I was like, oh, it's a movie star on stage.

Yes. Which is funny because when he plays a movie star, it doesn't feel as real as when he's just being Aaron Taylor Johnson. And like in the fall guy, I was like, Ryan Gossack's a movie star. Don't make that like. And then in life, I'm like Aaron Taylor Johnson, movie star.

He's, he's really, he's, he's good and he's a good actor and him and Nicholas Holt. Nicholas Holt. Nicholas Holt was great. Nosephratu. Great. Nicholas Holt is having,

he is, he, I feel like he is having the type of run that Keanu did around when John Witt came out because then we had the Keanuissance. I feel like that Holt, like if you take juror number two, Nosferatu,

he's about to hit Superman next. year which you know people are already I mean obviously people within that area he's doing great job but assuming that he is bringing what we're expecting him to bring like he's starting to hit a little string of just like damn okay I think he's having a string for sure like I but I don't know if I'm giving to give him cano status yet but I'm gonna I'll definitely I'll definitely say I'll definitely say that he's he's he's becoming more and more of a star you know like you see him more and if he hits with Lex Luther which you very well could I agree with you but

Maybe maybe a closer analogy because the Kiannaissance was the idea that he was already an AIS movie star kind of disappeared for a while and then went on a run. Maybe a closer one and hopefully there's just no trials involved is maybe Jonathan Majors and that all of a sudden now you're like, whoa, okay, this guy's legit. Like here he goes. That maybe that's kind of what it feels like more with Nickliss-old. He's been around a little bit, but this is his moment now. Could be. All right. So Winston, I don't know, you were part of the conversation yet for people who are brand new to the show, brand new to the channel.

And what we do is for the entire week, we put together our questions and our co-hosts on the show that day, try to one up the co-host before them with how many questions can be asked. And you guys have put in so far 19, 20, 20 questions come in. Winston, do you know who you're trying to beat right now? Steph. At 79. She did it again. It was funny because Roka started out a little slower on Monday. And then Roxy's like, I'm doing it this.

Steph said, no, you're not. Steph did it again. Steph could potentially do three weeks. weeks in a row and we said look there's no guarantee Winston and Coy formidable opponents we're already a quarter of the way there you're 20 so 20 out of 80 we're a quarter of the way there 79 we got to beat it with 80 we're a quarter of the way let's get it you can do it what is what is doing that she keeps getting all these damn questions it's it's look 59 59 is what you guys need more for the 9 more but we have a couple more things to do before we start getting into those

questions and we kept asking about death stroke right and they kept saying what's going on with Deathstroke, is he going to appear? We don't know. James Gunn's been talking a lot lately. He's doing more and more interviews because Creature Commandez is coming out right around the corner, so he's going to be doing a lot more. And yes, desperately trying to get him on this show. There's so many things I want to ask him, so many things I really want to dive into. And so far, looking at some of the questions people are asking, and I'm like, no one's asking this stuff that I wanted to ask him. No one is. I'm like, I got to, I need to know things, guys. I need to know things. Anyway, um,

We've, oh, speaking of which, I have an interview coming out on Tuesday. I interviewed Jalil White and we talked a lot of great stuff, man. We talked about Sonic the Hedgehog. Of course, we talked about his new book growing up Oracle. We talked to, I tried to get skeleton crew out of him. Nothing. Nothing. But we tried for a little bit, though.

He's a really good, really good conversation. I wish I would have talked to him a little about Mike Tyson because it was right after the fight. And he, I guess he had, he posted this video of Mike Tyson, like, stole his french fries from him, which was hilarious. You just let that happen. I don't know. Of course you don't. I wouldn't have not a second guess.

No, you do. You'd say, would you like more, sir? Go buy you. I'll go buy you. Exactly. No, no, no, no, not even go buy you some. Thank you. Thank you for letting me hold your French fries.

Right. Right. We'll get some more. How did you know I was going to buy these for you? 100%. Anyway, so let's, let's get into this thing about death stroke. And here is the story about said death stroke. James Gunn is confirmed.

plans for Slade Wilson in the DCU. DCU Studios co-CEO James Gunn has confirmed that plans are in place to introduce the villainous mercenary Slade Wilson, aka Deathstroke in the DCU. Back in September, we got word that the two of the Dark Knights' most formidable foes are set to set to forces for a new live action DCU movie with a Bain and Deathstroke project officially in development at DC Studios. details were few and far between and no director was attached at the time, but Captain America Brave New World writer Matthew Orton was said to be working on the script.

A follow-up report suggested that other characters might also appear as it wasn't clear whether Bain and Destroke would be the central figures of the project. This led to speculation that it could actually be another supervillain team-up, possibly even a Secret Six movie. James Gunn never actually commented on the report. But now he has confirmed there are plans in place to introduce Slade Wilson at least to the DCU at some point. To which they said this doesn't necessarily mean that Bain and Deathstroke film is a reality

as Wilson might be introduced as the antagonists in the Planteen Titans movie. Both characters have previously appeared on the big screen with Tom Hardy playing Bain in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Night Rises and Joe Mangonello making a very brief appearance as ruthless mercenary Deathstroke in the post-credit scenes of Joss Whedon's theatrically released Justice League movie. Whether these villains will be teaming up to take on an even big, or facing off against another remains to be seen, but we are be sure that we'll, but we're sure sorry, but we're sure they'll clash beforehand, even if they do ultimately put their differences

aside. We assume the plan is for one or both of these bad guys to come up against the DC's new take on Batman at some point, possibly even the plan, the brave and the bold movie. Okay. So let's see, then he goes back into the brave and the bold, but that's okay. This to me just gives me so much more confidence in what James Gunn is doing because let's say that there is going to be a Bain and Deathstroke movie. He didn't confirm that, but let's say that there is. This is the kind of stuff that why you hire on a James Gun to do run this because he's the guy in the meeting that goes, what do you mean they don't want villains leading a movie? Look at the Joker. What do you mean they don't villains leading a story? Look at Walter White. Look at Tony Suprano. What are he just talking about? People are

because I know for a fact, there's meetings that have happened in whether it's Lucasfilm, Star Wars, Marvel, Disney going, we can't have the bad guys being the ones that are running everything. People won't like that. Morons, morons. And if you can do a movie like this, doesn't mean to make it for $250 million, but if you make it, it could actually work.

But, of course, some of these, this particular story in general, tell me about this. Do you think it should be a movie? Do you think, how should it all pan up? me that and then your overall assessment of the way gun is handling things thus far uh i think that the death stroke bane movie is likely not just a duo movie i i don't think there's a death stroke bane movie i think those characters either together or separate will appear in the greater dc u a lot of times people hear a report and all of a sudden it's like oh wait there's over there

it just feels i don't know it's an odd uh pairing narratively and it feels like that wouldn't be something in this first wave, but I could be wrong because they are two great villains that could. I trust in the house that's building this, that they would have a reason to use them if that is the case. But overall, that informs the next bit. I think James Gunn is one of the most passionate comic fans, period. So this is getting to start from scratch while we're in peak comic culture. You know, it isn't where we were in, you know, Infinity War endgame, but it's well past where we were when you're trying to get the MCU started. So it's a great time to make Boulder swings,

to hire directors and creators that have a specific vision. It's the great time to trust in your audience that you could make swings like this. I think culturally we're ready for any of this and you've got an actual passionate fan at the helm. So I've never been more confident in D.C. since I've been reading D.C. at two years old. I've never been more excited for a universe

than what's happening right now. Winston? I mean, like Coy said, you started with a clean slate here. I understand people's apprehension because, again, the studio has done a lot of shaky decisions leading up to it. But the big difference here is that, again, that's all gone now. We are fully starting over.

Like, that would be a situation where, say, just to tip back to the story we were talking about, where Craven would have a little more faith in people potentially of like they're giving something a shot because you started over. But again, not a mainstitch. A-list, everybody in the world knows who that is. Destrook, I think the same thing is potentially a problem. Comic book aficionados, anybody that grew up on Teen Titans on Cartoon Network and stuff,

y'all know who Destrook is. Y'all know who Slate is. Like, that's fine. The reason why this would ultimately work is James Gunn didn't say, and we're starting off the DCU with Deathstroke. Like, us super nerds would be like, oh, okay, that's a choice, but I'm here for it. I love the character.

You were saying that, It's something that could be coming down the pipeline, that it's, you know, that you're saying that it's set to go. You're putting two of, that show tends to lean more towards Titans, but he'd really just DC in general, but you're putting him with another, like, fighting mastermind that Batman has a lot of issues with and things like that, or even the Titans have issues with. So you're getting an interesting story there, and you're not letting that be your lead off. You are, again, you started with Superman to get you out the gate, somebody that everybody knows. And then the villain thing that you said, Christian, it works if it's not everything.

If everything is the villains, unless we've just established that's the universe we're doing, then that does, but clearly this is something that's coming, I don't know, maybe two or three years from now. Great. I'm totally here for that. And it's leading to something. It's leading to something. It seems like everything is leading to something. And that's why, like, even hearing, as you mentioned before, Winston, that, yes, the hype behind like Superman and everything else right now seems to be the cast members and people who are,

were talking about it because the rumor is that. And I can't remember which one of you guys said it. But somebody said it, that they were asking when the trailer is coming out. We kind of speculated when we thought. And it looks like it's going to be in December. And the trailer has already been seen by Frank Grillo, who said it was incredible. Frank Grillo, to me, doesn't seem like somebody who's just going to start hyping stuff up because he's in the movie.

It's like, I think that he probably legit feels that way. And you have all this stuff. and how they're building towards things through creature commandos to this, to that, and then leading into stuff with Batman. They're going to stay have, they have a plan. That's the thing. I think the reason why you're excited and the reason why I'm hoping, you know, again,

with Star Wars and other things and Marvel works so long is because of the plan. There's no plan in Star Wars. There's no, the plan is getting better with Marvel, but there seems to be a full cut plan right now with D.C. I not only think that it's the best tactical choice to have James Gunn, but the fact that it's like if the best executive producer at a studio happened to be, what is how? All right. Hold on. It always sounds.

If the best executive producer at a studio happened to be an incredible director and that guy also happened to love these characters, like this is such a perfect storm. It's insane. Like it'd be like if Fincher was working with a power producer at 824 and they both happened to love this niche fandom and they were like, well, here's the keys to the castle. But the niche fandom is like this huge enterprise that can fuel all these creative choices by hiring directors that that other director was always wanted to work with. It's it is such a unique position we're in with comic book stuff that James Gunn, who wrote about the power stones in 10 minutes and formed that cosmic element of what DC or what Marvel was going to be is now. starting DC from scratch and making all these choices and he loves it so when I hear something like bain and death stroke one I don't know if they're just a solo pair but two I know that they wouldn't be used unless there was X Y and Z to do so down the line

that that that we've said it a million times you you need like Figey where I'm excited for him is how much passion and love he has for the X-Men so that is that is why that is going to be an incredible of his creative brilliance and things that are coming on here to know that gun has multiple times said that this is like he loves what he did and he loves marvel but this is like his bread and butter and you just get you literally told this kid hey man we know that you've got this imagination i want you to just go for it he's like okay it's true like that's that's what this feels like and i can feel his passion already just in the way that he talks about it and

he's proven that he's already a fantastic filmmaker so we're in for a treat i'm I agree. I agree. And I also think the other thing is what he's been doing that I think is great is that the hype around Superman right now is really getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And Superman, as Winston, you said, you're not like the big of the biggest Superman fan. But you're hype for this movie. And that is the trick. Like me, I'm a Superman fan. I'm going to go see. I'm going to see the movie no matter what. I was the same thing. My fingers are crossed. Then I'm like, okay, Superman, come on. Let's do it. But. I just getting those people in there that don't give a crap about Superman. I feel like they're going to do it. And they put the right trailer behind it. We'll see. All right, what say you guys?

Put your comments in there. Let us know what you think. Everything was going on with, with D.C. and James Gunn. And I am going to get to this last story because it's a Marvel rumor. But I'm going to go away from Marvel for a second. We're not going to go into the full topic. But did you guys hear the rumor about the Kinberg Star Wars

trilogy about who they're looking to get in that no henry cavil yes i did hear that actually i did hear you want to get you want to get me on board i'm like him as but him is it but don't but let him be evil let him be evil they're going to probably have him as a good guy but let him be evil i thought he was such a good bad guy dude he was so good in mission was let him be let him be nefarious like i i really Adam Driver for all that I will say he did a really great job with the role that he was in I don't love the sequel trilogy a lot of the time

and sometimes I felt that Kylo got a little too whiny for my taste but I still will give Adam Driver credit just for the actor that he is if you genuinely let him go cook and be like a Darth Vader ass character a bro I know let him be evil let him be evil I want to see him be

someone like you know whatever it might be someone evil that would be great somebody with force lightning like i want to see him like out here ruthlessly choking generals because they pissed him off like oh just let him go i know for real did you guys hear the rumor the um the dazzler rumor there's a new one yeah there's another so there's a new one there's a new rumor here about dazzler and this rumor is that marvel wants lady gaga to play dazzler that's the rumor that's the rumor that's the rumor so this is from mark cassie he said we heard that lady gaga met with Marvel Studios about a potential MCU role and that Kevin Feige is said to be interested in the

Joker Folly Adieu star to play Dazzler. Pop megastar turn actress Lady Gaga has emerged as one of Hollywood's most in demand talents since her Academy Award nominated performance in Star is born, and it seems most of the major studios are keen to work with her. Despite the movie's frosty reception, Gaga received high praise for her turn as Harley Lee Quinn in the recent Joker Follyadu, and we have heard that James Gunn wants her to play a different character in the DCU. Gunn is rumored to met, oh sorry, Gaga has been rumored to have met with Lucas from about a potential Star Wars role, interesting, and there were also whispers that she could be lining up a Marvel Studios gig. Now, Scooper, My Time to Shine, is reporting that Kevin Feigey is

interested in bringing Gaga into the MCU fold as a specific character, Dasler. Given Gaga's background, Allison Blair would seem like a perfect fit, but there are plenty of Swifties who still feel that Taylor Swift would be the ideal candidate for the part. Fans became convinced, Swift had been cast as the musical mutant when she was spotted hanging out with Sean Livy and Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman, but she never showed up in the movie. And Livy has indicated that it wasn't something that was ever given serious consideration. If this is accurate, Figue is eager to sign Gaga as Dazzler. We assume the character will be introduced as part of the first team of X-Men to debut in the MCU post-AVengers Secret Wars. Faggie spoke about MCU's plans for X-Men

during the opening day of Disney A-PAC content showcase in Singapore yesterday. I think you will see that continue in our next few, wait, I think you'll, I think you will see that continue in our next few movies with some X-Men players that you might recognize. Right after that, the whole story of Secret Wars really leads us into a new age of mutants in the X-Men. So I think this is an excellent idea. I think it's an excellent idea. Now here's what you're going to hear. Because it's, because right now she's associated with a stinky movie, oh no, no, don't put her in that. She was in Joker, her too. But I don't don't think there's a lot of people, and if there is, they're wrong that blame her for that movie

being not good. She was great in the movie. She's a really good actress. And I think if you put Taylor, Taylor Swift in it, who's, I think at best, an okay actress. Like, the last thing I saw her in was that movie that she was actually, what was it? Yes, Amsterdam. That's right. And she was actually okay in that. That was her best performance. She's been in other things where she's been not good. I've never seen a not good Lady Gaga performance as an actress. I think you're better off. I think, yes,

you get the swifties in there to see the movie, but what are you trying to do? You're trying to get the audience in there because you know that a pop star is in it, or you want to get somebody that can play this character and they're really, and can act. And I think Lady Gaga is the person to go for as far as, and I think there's a reason why everyone else is meeting with her, because the performance was good. Yeah. I got, I got thoughts. I got thoughts. I think,

I think, one, I agree with the fact that I personally believe that Gaga is a better actress than Taylor, at least with what Taylor's decided to present herself with. But then a follow up to that, a couple different things. One, Gaka, for the most part, her music career, she's kind of done. There really hasn't been any talks about her necessarily putting out a new album, trying to go back out on tour, things like that. Taylor, I know she's just about to wrap up the Erez tour, but. I don't think she's done. She's performed at the Olympics. Who?

Gaga. No, no, I understand, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about she's not doing performances. I'm talking about she is not making an album. Right, right. Right. Currently, currently. Right.

There's been no talks of her making a resurgence like that. Like she'll still go perform, but she really feels like she's more in her actress era. Got it. Versus, for, no pun intended. Whereas Taylor, Taylor is still putting out albums. She's still doing her Taylor's versions and stuff. I'm sure in a couple years. when she's had time to cool off, she's going to want to tour again.

So all of that being said, anybody you're bringing into the MCU like this, especially now that we're just getting to X-Men, so you're talking about a mutant here, odds are you're on the hook for the next decade. Right. And I don't think that Taylor is trying to do all that, unless you're giving her a one-off joke character

that, like, not the dazzler is crazy important, but any mutant that comes into the fold right now, people are going to be watching and a name like Taylor, angle be, you know, we kind of in and out, like that unless we unless it had been say deadpool and wolverine and we're like this is because it was a favor to blake and to you know ryan to do whatever i i think this is a better choice i think the only thing superstitiously for me is i fully agree with you that gaga is actually a very good actress she just has also had a string of i gave you a killer performance but this movie is trash so i'm a little i'm a little nervous about that but i but if you're just talking straight acting talent and still having a very, very large fan base that you can hopefully fold into this.

Gaga is a great choice. Coy? I think Lady Gaga is a great actress. I think a star is born is one of those movies that I'm really surprised. Oh, I love that movie. I thought she was fans. Anyway, I think she's fantastic. As an actress, I don't think she's right for Dazzler.

I think she's an archetype as I'm a pop star that is, you know, amongst people that feel ostracized and want to find community. I love that for Lady Gaga, but this rumor feels like someone went, oh, she identifies with people that are outsiders and people like find community with her. And I love that. She's got her little monsters. And I think that is very X-Men, find a community in being ostracized. But I think that if the X-Men are coming in as adults, maybe if Dazzler's been a star for an amount of time. But I think the benefit of Dazzler is appeals to a younger audience of she's a teen pop star. You develop your X-Gene in puberty, you're young and trying to figure out who you are.

Dazzler is kind of a shining light of people that are teenagers trying to figure out what they identify with. And I don't know if many teenagers are identifying with someone in their late 30s that's been a pop star since we, like, she's been a pop star for 15 years. I don't think the generation that is watching new mutants form is going to look to a 30, 39-year-old and be like, that's what represents me. So I think she just, unless Dazler has been an established mutant for 20 years, I don't think it works. Well, then my only pushback then is then Taylor wouldn't be a good fit anyway, even though she is able to speak to women literally of all ages, not that Lady Gaga doesn't, but I know Taylor's on a different kind of plane. It's the same thing. Taylor's in like her like early to mid.

Oh, I don't think Taylor's right for it either unless it's a one-off. I think you get a new pop star to do a cameo or you get an unknown to play a role as a pop star. Get Naomi Scott and Smile too. Like I think you cast correctly for the demo, not for because they. appeal to a story type. I just think you need to hit the right age. Yeah. Well, Naomi Scott is in the same age range as Taylor. I mean age of your audience. Sorry. I mean like what audience is going to perceive you as. Well, either way. We'll we'll figure it. It also depends on like you said. It depends on where and what stage in our life Dallas is in. But we'll find out as that is an interesting rumor. We'll see if it comes to play. All right. So we are going to start answering some of these As I mentioned to you guys, Steph yesterday hit 79. Can the dynamic duo of Winston and Coy pull it off?

We're going to find out in just a moment. Coy, you got a lot going on in your channel right now. What's up? I am doing my weekly comic stuff. I had to take a couple days off. So I'm playing aggressive catch-ups. I'm actually going live later today with this past week's comics. So I'm finally caught up to the books for November 13.

So I'm going to be doing a live today talking about totally different stuff that we talked about here. It's funny because Christian broke news to me and it already prepped my show. So all new stuff later on on my channel. And then I also just dropped my Wicked review. And it was Wicked Charming. I did not expect to like Wicked. I, in fact, was afraid of Wicked all year. And then Agatha made me terrified of Wicked.

And then blissfully 20 minutes into Wicked, I breathed the biggest sigh of relief that I enjoyed it. So that review is currently up in my page. And then December, I did my calendar because I'm trying to be like Christian and have my, like, plan. Like, Christian's been like him and Greg Alba have been such a guiding force. of like goals with my page and I very much appreciate that but both have like a schedule and I did my December and I have 39 videos planned for the 31 days in December. So strap in, subscribe. It's going to be crazy. Winston? Ah, damn, man. Good for you. I had a jury due to this week. So I'm a little behind on stuff, but I did get a board breakdown out already, including a new video did knee in there.

I did a restart of breakfast a.m. News. So if you follow me on all the socials, definitely check that I will put a widescreen version of it on the YouTube channel once I get a little bit of time. But other than that, today at 1.30 Pacific, you can come over to the Outlaw Nation with John Roker. We are doing a spill the tequila. So if you want to come and check out some more kind of crazy stories that have popped off in the last couple of weeks, John and I are going to be tackling that. So you can check that out. But again, go to my channel, YouTube.com, slash Swaggy Blurred, and check out some more stuff I got. All right, thank you gentlemen. And let's see. So let's, the battle begins.

Winston and Coy versus Steph. Can they do it? All right. So we start out with these 32 questions. And the first one comes in from Shane Adams with a very generous one. Thank you, Shane. Very smart move in regards to the Young Avengers series. Most of the Young Avengers characters have been introduced on Disney Plus. There's a risk to make a big budget film. Be smart with the budget and hire a great showrunner. and it has potential. Yeah, I mean, I completely agree. Obviously, I think there's a lot of the points that we made there too, but it's this to me is, and I think Winston, you said it too. You've been around, like, your family involved in television for a long time, how important a good showrunner is to make this thing work. It is absolutely vital. And I don't, like,

all the other writers deserve credit on that team, but it's the same thing. That's your head coach. So no one necessarily cares about the story editors, the, the co-executive producers, etc., etc, essentially your coordinators, again, if we're using a sports metaphor, if the head coach ain't doing what they need to do. It doesn't mean they don't get credit, but you need the person at the helm handling that. So yeah, um, all right. So then we got Shay Markell who says, Kendrick Lamar just dropped the record. Happy Friday. People are pumped about that right now. Dude, it's so good. Also live chat. Sabrina Carpenter, we know who she is. I think espresso as done by Dazzler would be fantastic. Sabrina Carpenter, I think is a great pull for actress.

That's actually if she did because she started off as a Disney channel actor didn't Yeah and like I think that's the demo you want to hit with dazzler I think Sabrina Carpenter is a great pull that would be that would be fine either that or I don't know of Chaparone acts but like that's a similar kind of demo that you could pull is chapel feels more Gaga more Harley to me and dazzler feels more Sabrina carpenter which is ironic as she was dating the joke let me ask is is she too is the same thing you guys talked about before and is Ariana Grande someone dude after wicked anything she does. I'm signed up. She is so funny.

You know what's hilarious about that? And I said this, because I didn't, because people were, because I couldn't believe her comedic timing was so good. And people are like, oh, you, how do you not know that? She grew up in those shows. I wasn't watching those shows. I had no idea that she, that she had comedic timing. She was great. I think she could be nominated for an Oscar. I really do. I think she's that good. Both her and Cynthia blew me away. Like that movie really suppressed. So it's what I said yesterday. I thought Cynthia was really good. I didn't think she was great. I thought she was really good.

I thought Ariana Grande was great. I do want to speak on Shea's note here. I know Winston hasn't heard it yet because he responded to my text verbally that he has not gotten to it yet. But I will say in brief, usually when I listen to an album the first time, I can hear moments that'll mean something to me later. And usually there's like an acclamation period of like, oh, that's a different sound. Like I have to adjust to an album, but I'll have highlights. And then as I listen to an album more and more, it grows on me generally. but I got instincts.

This first listened through felt like a third or fourth listen through. It already felt like a classic. It already had hooks that I recognized immediately. Dude, Winston, you know that opening of the music video where he had that five second sample? It's actually a full song. He never does that. No, he always puts out snippets and then doesn't release the first song.

He's got it four times. I had a gut feeling. All I know is my text chains have been blowing up all morning. I was just going to say, I was just going to say, where's screw face John when you need him? I was like, he's probably listening to the album. He's probably listening to you're probably doing a live right now. Probably. It's incredible.

Ewaq, I agree that it is a smart move. Who do you think will lead the young Avengers? I would assume that the two of them is Marvel and Kate. Probably Kate Bishop would probably leave them, right? Yeah, I feel like she's got leadership qualities we saw in Hawkeye. I feel like they'll use Amon Valani to recruit them because that'll be funniest and she'd make it cheeky. She'll be the Nick Fury. I feel like there'll be a leadership element on the field.

yield from Elijah potentially because like, you know, the Captain America, the leadership I could see him embodying. I also think we might get Iron Lad at some point. So I could see Iron Lad, but that's tricky with Kang. So like that's it. But also like in the Ultimates comics right now, Winston, like Tony Stark is an Iron Lad feeling vibe. So like it's possible. That was the only thing I was thinking is, is I was genuinely curious how they were going to handle all that. If that's your excuse. to recast or something like that because like it missing iron lad who typically takes the the the the reins i have a feeling that it'll probably be elan uh um him on for a while and and you know at least at the starting point of it since she was just going to lead it since she's the one

quote unquote putting the team together um it it almost feels like it'll be a similar situation to the avengers where tony was in charge most of that movie be until he was like call it cap and then it was clear that cap became the one that was like okay you're the de facto leader now it's gonna be hard for me to believe though that all those older kids are gonna take and i'm on so innocent i do i see nick fury for her i see the recruiting and a cheekiness but not like you're not like it taking charge i think she i think she's kind of pushing forward the leader to say hey you need to lead us like that's what yeah that's but i think that's kind of what i mean i think she will be similar to a tony situation where nick kept trying to

get Tony to do it and ultimately Tony got out of his own way. We're like sure he was still maybe the mouthpiece and he was still kind of the face of it one way or the other, but he handed the reins to cap in that moment when they go on to really fight in New York. I think you have a similar situation where she keeps trying to lead this thing. She keeps trying to be like McFurie and put this together. And then ultimately looks to somebody else on the team to go, you know what? You might be better to take that role.

And kind of have like a, as Lucas says that, you know, good stories echo. Yeah. So he follows it up with which three or four. for will be the heavy hitters and who will drive the plot. So we pretty much just covered that with that one. So, um, all right. So next one and thank you, Rayne, guys, 37, 37, you're about 40, 42 away to tie. Um, tie, Ty, Wiler.

Hey, Christian, have you heard of Darth Vader black, white and red comic run? Now, which one is that? Is that the one? It's newish. It's also there's a run of comics called black, white and red or black white and blood. And basically the comic is printed black and white and white and anything that's red in the story gets to be red. So it's black, black,

red to beautiful visual and the and the and the darth vader stuff is really great i definitely recommend it yeah he says it's awesome and definitely to check it out and he says i love you core for all your comic content i'm so glad people care man it's it's a beautiful thing that people are discovering comics and reading them and sharing it it makes me happy you make it cool they're taking it a step further they i guess they already started darth mall black white and red oh dude it's awesome and like the the spider man one is black suit and red it's spider man in the black suit and a black and white comic and all the red pops dude it's such a great run and different stuff i definitely recommend it dc has one too dc has a black white and red as well uh armada will you all be checking out the piano

lesson on netflix it's directed by one of denzel's sons also i enjoyed gladiator too let's f and go k dot um so piano lesson yeah i think that i think that's one of the screeners i think for critics choice i think but i've definitely heard of it and i i guess i will i will check it wasn't sure i didn't realize that denzil's son did it and oh you see so much there's so many mixed reviews on gladiator too did you i forget core what did you say about it i liked it i thought it wasn't like the emotional weight of the first one i thought it was a great action sword and sandals film though 100% uh and and uh i was really excited for the piano uh the piano lesson uh i keep want to calling it piano row, which is a college dormitory I went to a piano lesson I was really excited for

from like when they announced it six months ago and then hearing all the word of mouth and stuff, I'm so stoked. I mean, including the fact that it's, it's Malcolm, it's his directorial and screenwriting debut directing his brother because John David Washington is the second lead behind Jackson, Samuel Jackson. So this cast is crazy. Samuel Jackson, John David Washington, Ray Fisher, Michael Potts, Erica Badoo, Corey Hawkins. like good lord

when the washington's call you answer a hundred percent uh mike joyce is it weird that i enjoy lurking in the comments section batshit commenters amuse me is there a bad shit comment that you've gotten that sticks out to you you know i'll tell you it wasn't necessarily to me but it was i saw my friend posted a picture of himself i won't say who it is because i don't want him to get but he's it but he's another movie reviewer and he posted a picture of himself as the riddler for Halloween and for some reason it's really just made me laugh so hard the comment was that's a shit costume and it was so mean to the poor guy it was just it's a shit costume it killed me it killed me

he laughed at it too but it just it made me crack up I don't know why that sticks out to me but like why someone just go out of their way to tell something to shit costume but it was like it was the photo that he took as the riddler his hat is his hat was up and he had had a stick and no and he just shit god it did still to this day happened like 11 years ago it killed me i thought it was this hurt so much funny that it stuck with you for a decade 11 years ago it's it's a funny it was the first thing i thought of anyway are there ones to stick out to you guys off the top of my head i kind of i kind of let them flow through me because i'll hang on to stuff too much if i don't know i don't have one this actually makes me feel good that i can't think of them

so i get so mad you guys have noticed i'm barely on twitter anymore so like clearly it's i know i was wondering why you seem so happy these days. Yeah, I'm so full of joy because I'm away from the evils of Twitter. I think the funniest one that made me realize that actually, I think this is what helped me get off Twitter is someone let me know that I only liked things that were cool that I didn't actually have my own taste. And I only liked Kendrick because liking black stuff was cool. And that's why my fiance was black. That's why you got about that one. They literally said that I and propose to a black woman. Oh,

cool to be. And I was like, oh, I think I'm done with that. Wait a minute. I'm not cool anymore. I need to go get a black fiancé. You got to get on it, man. It's all the rage. I take it back.

I remember where that happened. There's a few. If I dug deeper, I could find it. That is one of my top tier that someone should have was like, yeah, Corey just wants a black woman because you're just in a big day. Oh, cool. It made me realize, like, you can be that dumb.

And that helped me quantify, like, if people can be that dumb, all these comments are useless because everyone, So yeah, that help that person help me more than they know. Coy, did you see the follow up with like there, there was, there was somebody that that tweeted that at you, not just put it into YouTube comment. And I was like, yeah, no, I don't think that's what it is. And it's like clearly Coy did this to impress Winston. That's what he said. Yeah, Winston got brought into it too.

Like Winston was like part of this whole situation. Perfect. Buster Barnes. And it worked and now we're friends. Yes. Coy, is there a website anywhere which will tell me the DC Comics continuity orders from start to present as well as what is canon and what isn't yes uh dc universe infinite is an incredible app it is like dc's digital catalog and it will have categories of like where to read next and what is in certain

elements and actually right now dc absolute is completely fresh continuity great jumping on points like brand new and dc all in is in the regular continuity but new creative teams so it's also good jumping in So if you want the night wing that's been running for years and years and new years, you can pick up the first issue of DC All In, which is issue 119. It's not going to be 119 worth of knowledge. It'll have backstory, but it's basically like a new number one with DCLN. If you want brand new Batman that's never had a Nightwing or Robin, Batman absolute number one is fresh continuity. So there's really good jumping on points.

New 52 did the same where it was new continuity. DC Universe Infinite will spoil all that out as well. And it's really good stuff. Absolute is wild. Dude, it's so good. Jake says, Coy, I got a flat butt. Any tips? Yeah. It's the best ongoing joke on the show right now, I'll tell you.

It's a, his guy has asked every single host, this question. I love it. Okay, so squats, but you want to make sure that your feet are slightly elevated in the front, so you find like a little ramp at the gym. And then you get your squat as low as you can, and you want the descent to be as slow as the lift. So you want to drop slow and lift slow. And then you also want to find like a hamstring machine.

So you do a reverse, curls and also leg extensions, but focus on the space between your glute and your lower back, and that'll extend out your hump and you'll get those lovely lady love. There's going to be a super cut of all of the answers. Yeah, from the host. Nobody asked me, nobody asked me because I'm assuming this came in before I showed up, but collard greens. If you're not eating collard greens after you work out. Dude, Greg had never heard of collard greens.

Not only had he not had them. You never watched movies? You can see them movies. That's one of the great foods is collard greens. like unknown d hey coy you think Hulk's son will be on the young avengers team we haven't heard anything about him since she Hulk hopefully he's found a new barber i don't think we'll see uh yeah baby Hulk again i think that plot line was pretty sadly delivered and i feel like that if anything is getting recondits that that boy's haircut and him and him went over like a fart in an elevator bad real bad ma um maramath haunts hey coy someone saw the dubs in my collection and suggest

to do a power bomb. Any thoughts on it? Yeah, that is a really strong comic about wrestling in the world of wrestling. People love it. It's like indie wrestling the comic. So really fun wrestling characters, really fun wrestling storylines. The arts bombastic and super 80s. Christian would actually dig it too. It's like 80s wrestling comic. That was my that was my error for sure. Shea Markell. Hey Christian, how proud of you of the business that you started. I mean, I'll tell you like I've talked about it many times on

that and I stick with it. People always have criticized me about like, well, you always say you like the thing that you're working on the best. I, when I started this channel, it became my favorite thing because of the vibe and because I didn't, it was the first time, really, I didn't have a partner. I didn't know it wasn't working with anyone. I could do my own thing. And it has been to me the most satisfying out of all the stuff that I've ever worked on. And I was confident that we could make the virtual shows work.

I was contrary to, but we, but like anything else, you needed to have quality stuff. and we made sure we got the right cameras, we made sure we got the right mics, we made sure we had everybody on the shows and doing everything. So, yeah, it's been pretty great, and we're trying to build more. So we'll see. Thank you, Shea.

All right, next one, and we have this one that came in. This was around, what time it was it was? Oh, it was around 1.30 when that came in. And that was, call me Java. I can't watch live, but I am supporting. I know it's not possible, but what if Sophia never left Arkham? She made the whole thing up in her mind.

as a revenge fantasy burning down her father's legacy and Oz. Well, that would just negate a lot of the stuff that, you know, the drama that Oz was going through. And then we'd have to kind of, well, what was really going on with Oz then? But there's always that fun thing. I think someone said it recently about Ferris Bueller, that Cameron was imagining all this stuff

and the people make up their own kind of fan theories. But it's fun to it. It's fun to think of. Israel Lopez, first time on a live show. Hey, Israel. I usually hear you on my commutes on Spotify. I love that. a fan since Glider. I love the live format. Greetings from Montreal. Always love hearing that.

Yeah, Spotify has been kind of picking up a little more so now. I look at the numbers on Spotify that have been going up in a lot because I think it is too, as you can comment on Spotify now. And you can put thumbnails on Spotify now. Like you couldn't do that before. So you can put thumbnails, descriptions, all that on. Highly recommend you guys are doing live shows in longer form. I highly suggest doing video format and Spotify also. Mad Sinister Macal. Coy and Winston, a movie that You hate that everyone loves. I can't use, you can't use Irish, Irishman because it's the farts. Plan on seeing wicked gladiator bonfer back to back triple in one day.

So what's a movie that you hate that everyone loves? I think Armageddon sucks. Wow. I think it's so bad it invalidates the criteria on collection. Wow. Okay. I don't, I can't, I'm not going to, I don't love that movie enough to fight you on that, but I don't mind it.

Yeah, I think if it came out as a, I don't mind this, it's a perfect, it's not like bad. It's just not good enough to be criteria. Oh, no, I think it sucks. But if people thought it was just okay, I wouldn't hate it as much. But since people think it's exceptional,

it makes my hate stronger. You like deep impact much better. Oh, 100%. Yeah. What about you, Winston? Um, I guess the only one thing I could think of. I don't hate it.

I just, I clearly missed when it would have been, this is great, is the Goonies. I think it's, I think it's like, well enough to go. This is a good adventure movie, but I missed it when I was at an age that this would have had an effect on me. So anybody that is like, oh, my God, it's so great. I'm like, it's fine. So that's only one I can think of off the top of my head. Maybe the most recent little women with Greta Greta, Greta Wick, which I said again,

I think it's a fantastically done movie. But because this was like the seventh iteration of it and it didn't necessarily in my mind doing anything different, I was just like, okay. Well, both of you guys pussyed around it. I'm going around. Hey, if it's hate, I hate just friends. I hate that movie. Just friends.

As in Ryan Reynolds and, uh, hate that stupid movie. Shea Markle. It sucks. Stupid movie. Shea Markell, hey guys, in your opinion, what ratio of luck versus talent do film stars have? I feel journeyman actors are all talent with no. no luck while stars are 50-50. It's a great question. There's a lot of luck and it's more of being

in the right time, you know, right place to the right time. There's, and I always say this about not just actors, there's an athlete out there, somebody who was so good at baseball, football, boxing, that probably could have been the best of all time. And this is not this year. This is maybe maybe in the 50s, maybe in the 60s, never did it, never played it, never decided, decided that A, they played it a couple times, thought it was fun, but never pursued or pursued something else. And if they did, and if they would have been in the right place or a time, they could have been the best of all time. You don't know. It's just those people that have that kind of talent have found themselves in the position. And some people who have

no talent have found themselves in the position. And look, look at someone, and I'm not shitting on her. I'm saying, but look at like Haktua girl, right? Very, I think she, I think she's a lot of personality. I do. I think she's a lot of personality. Found herself in the right place at a right time to showcase that personality and did it with the explicit and did it with the, you know, the raunchy humor, but capitalized on it, right? But has the woman has a lot of personality. If you listen to her talk, she got a lot of personality, but she found herself in front of a microphone that day, said the thing she said, it blows up and she capitalized on it. That's just a lot of things that happened. I love you, pokey, forever. Right, right, right. Right. Um,

More, more, more, significantly more luck than talent. Yeah. I had a mentor that said a number of times that, like, there's a certain point as far as acting goes, you're actually not out acting anybody. Everybody's kind of on the same plane unless you're at Denzel Washington or Mail Street. You're pretty much all at the same level. It is ultimately, were you lucky enough to be at that one event to network with somebody? Did you happen to have somebody that was willing to represent you on some stuff because even getting an agent when you're trying to start out is so tricky? Yeah.

Did you get that particular audition? were you able to make like it there are so much so many factors and it's also determination there's a lot of this too it's it's not the only thing but there's also things about i remember when people even with this stuff like when i and i said to some someone said well i don't have enough time to do video i don't have enough time to do so i'm working on my channel i just don't have enough time to post and then i said to them said would you watch last night i said i watched this show from like you know seven o'clock to nine i said did you have to watch it. No, but I was tired. You could have been doing a video then. You didn't. You didn't do it

because you didn't. It's, it's how bad do you want it? It's like, you know, and I've, I've done it myself too. I got home like recently the night. I had a video that I had to do. I was like, I'm going to do it in the morning. I'm tired. And I know that I took the hit from not doing it at that time, but I told myself, I've got to take a break. You know, something you got to take a break. But if you really want to get things right, you got to push yourself at certain points. 39 videos and 31 days. It's not going to be fun. But it's going to be, it's work, it's money. Don't burn yourself out, though.

John Ashford, MCU Sony needs their villains to be villains. Do you think with the success of DC's Penguin Marvel Sony will do that? Well, that's a great question with Craven, right? Will they actually keep them bad? What do you guys think? I think Craven's going to be hunting poachers that kill the animals that he has respect for that they don't. So he'll be bad to humans, but that'll still allow him to be approachable to the audience. I think he will have killed animals, but I think he respects the game.

So I think that's a way to keep them like, you know, good for audiences, but still killing people. And that'll be interesting. And I think that that's how you, if you bring Spider-Man into it eventually, it's Spider-Man, just like, well, you can't just be killing people, bro. And then Craven's like, well, then if you don't have respect, Spider-Man, then get on my way. Get on my way. The Cosmic Wonder. Thanks, man.

What's up, guys? Oh, I got the video plan right now. Good. Thanks for the news. You're welcome. Did you hear anything about Iron Lad being part of it, maybe? No, I didn't really hear anything about any particular people that were involved in it. Like, what I heard is that it's not going to be a movie.

It is going to be a TV show and that they're going to start production in 2025. That was the extent of it of what I heard. But, yeah, I'm curious about if I do hear any more about who's going to be in and those types of things. I'll keep you updated. Roman Fedorak, what's up, Roman? Hey, all, happy Friday and best wishes to you all. While disappointed that Lucasfilm has no plan, I'm glad. we're not getting overloaded with two 2026 films.

I'm glad we're not getting overloaded with two 2026 films when they have no plan. I still thought back in the day, when it looked like they knew when they were putting a ruse, they looked like they knew what they were doing, I said two films could be great. And somebody was like, oh, no, you oversaturated. It was like, well, Marvel, when Marvel was doing it really,

really well, they were doing two to three a year. And then once they started to not do it well, people like, I'll hold back a little bit. When it's going well, you can put out as many as possible. People will want to see them. But that's the trick. Can you sustain? And right now they can't sustain because they can't even get a script ready for 2026. So I think it's smart that they didn't push it. But eventually I'd like to see two movies that they can actually make it work. Shea Markell. If the Rock wants to repair his box office, he should maybe

take smaller supporting roles, develop some acting range, do what Twilight Boy did and come back. He's doing an 824 movie. That's what I was going to say. He's doing smashing machine. If that movie hits, he really can showcase his acting with that one. But I think he's got to get away from doing, I'm the rock and this. I didn't mind Red One.

I'm not going to say this goes far as to say that I loved it or liked it. But I'll say that I didn't mind it. I didn't mind it. But he was the rock. He's always, he does the same performance with almost every single role that he does. Well, entertaining. But switch it up.

And let's, and I. I think doing supporting roles would be great, but I just don't think his ego will let him do that. I love The Rock. What do you guys? I want to see The Rock. Like 824, that movie I'm more excited for than anything he's announced in a while. I think Moana is going to be a great paycheck. And I think Red One he thought would be.

And I think A24 was the course correction like Marvel's doing because he probably signed on to Red One four years ago. And then that was when, you know, we were coming out of the pandemic. And right before the pandemic, it had been these giant movies. Like, we're seeing this huge shift and it's going to take a little time for the reality to catch up. Yep. It just depends on what he wants. You know, he's already got more than enough money that he could ever ask for. You've already built a name however you asked for.

If he genuinely wants to go on that journey to become that actor that people are starting to respect Batista for sure. And Sina's starting to get into that air as well. Then he would just need to take a little bit of, like you said, I think a little bit of an ego check to just step back and take a role that's a little juicier like that. And then you can go forward. But maybe he just wants to continue to just be in front of the booby. I also still love that the rock takes the time like at events to talk like the at the end of the day the rock is a patient kind like with his time bro I just want to like I feel like there's so much like yeah the rock and I'm like I mean people people the average person of his size doesn't physically or there's no one that stays in the spotlight for as long as he did he does that they don't turn on you name a celebrity that they have not that nobody's ever turned on they turn on them then they come back they turn on who is a celebrity that they've never returned on denzil reves denzel maybe denzel's a good one cana reeves no cana reeves had a had a had a moment in the 90s when they were like oh he's a terrible actor this guy's the worst why is this

guy out here doing this guy couldn't act himself out of i remember clear his day when he's yeah about his career not his person that's i'm talking about maryl street meryl street had a had a run i've been in the in the 80s that yeah but something along the lines it was like what did she do i can't remember i it was more about overexposed for Merrill Street. She's in everything. Why they keep put her in everything? Let someone else do it. So Merrill Street had that. There's always something that people will turn on for sure. De Niro, same thing. Had the same thing, you know, and especially now politically wise, people will turn on De Niro. Pacino. Oh, he's overrated. He's done this. People always turn on you. It happens. So he'll rock and bounce back.

Shane Arkell. Sony needs to cut all the rogues gallery nonsense and run that Miles movie. fact or an Andrew movie or a Toby movie I'm gonna riot if that film got delayed multiple years only to be mid yeah yeah I think we're getting miles I just don't know if it's gonna have to be after beyond the spider verse I'm wondering if that you know goes to live action like by the end but it does you know it's time for miles I think Sony's I think Sony's Spider-Man problem is the or spider-verse problem is the same problem Lucas from as the people in charge just don't know what they're doing they just know what they're doing They know the name and that to them is enough. How do we treat it like business? How do we? That's all it is. It's like you can look at things business wise, but it can't be the only thing.

Unknown. Thanks to Coy, I stopped watching the show earlier to listen to the new KDOT album. And it's great. It's time to catch up on the show. Thank you. It dropped at 9 a.m. Pacific.

I was listening to it by 902. And I got down to the last three minutes and I had to like set up the show while listening because I was like, I'm going to have to be late. So I completely understand and respect that. Welcome back. Hope you see this later. You have to be late.

I was on time. I was setting up while listening. I had to like multitask because I was like I had to finish this. I didn't do it on purpose. That's the difference. I didn't do that shit on purpose. I was here. I was on time.

I just was multitasking. Seattle K.O. Did any of you guys ever get into underground hip hop artists like living legends, atmosphere, kind of linguist, hieroglyphics and Jedi Mind tricks? What about, who's the one? I left Doom. Oh, yeah, there was one. Oh, my God.

I can't think of, oh, my God. I have a, I have a really good one that I had in my head, not the Fuchnikins, but. You have a song? No, yeah, it was, oh, my God. I'll have to bring it up if I remember it. But somebody. I love Jedi Mind tricks. I love hieroglyphics.

I just saw atmosphere live like six weeks ago. Yeah, big, big fan. I go to as many, there's like decent amount of underground hip-hop. shows in downtown LA and uh gena Monet and jadena have like gatherings of like up and coming west coast rappers decently often um like once a year i try to go to a show and discover new artists and then anytime there's like a show that has opening acts i try to follow that stuff to their other shows to find new rap so i'm always looking all right mf doom asop rock a lot of a lot of good good folks all right so next one here is bow 26 who's an actor you initially were down on but over

Over time grew on you. For me, it's Taylor Kitch. Cowboys are a dumpster fire. Go birds. Oh, man. I, you know what I'll tell you? I'll tell you, what's his name? Joel Courtney was, is that?

Oh, Jai Courtney. Yeah, great pull. Jai Courtney. I'll tell you why Jai Courtney. I was so tough on Jai Courtney. I was so tough and thought that they were trying to make him the movie star, trying to put him, and he was in die hard and all these things.

He was terrible. And I used to be, I was very vocal about it. And then I interviewed him in person twice. luckily didn't strangle me after the things I said before him. But I'll tell you, not only was he a super cool guy in the interview, when they started putting him in supporting roles and other things, I was like, oh, now I get it. Now I understand why he's getting his opportunities because he's pretty damn good.

And I thought he was great. Even the movie's crap. Suicide Squad stinks. He was pretty good in it. And he's a much better actor when they're not trying to force feed him in the same way that Sam Worthington was another one that when they were force feeding him at first. I said, oh, he's really, really good. and he's a kind of smaller roles and he's a good actor.

So I would say, I would say Jack Courtney. Mine is probably the most famous on Collider Live. Christian, on beat it into me that Robert Pattinson is not just Twilight. And then I actually listen to him and I could not have admitted quicker how wrong I was. That is, he is incredibly talented. I'll even give Kristen Stewart too. I think it was just the material that they were doing at the age they were doing it.

And now here we are. and they're both very, very good actors. I was literally going to say, Kristen Stewart, because she's one of my favorites now. Like, I will see any independent film she does because she's sensational, but I did not see that in the beginning. I liked her in what's it called Panic Room, and then Twilight undid that.

And then she got me back within the, what was the hippie movie she did with Emil Hirsch? Not sure. But yeah, she was hit her miss and now she's hit. Very good actress. I will tell you, though, do not let her give a speech. Dude, I was at Sundance. I told this story before.

I was at Sundance. And she gave a speech. And it was fucking, what can I say about? Fuck. This is like, this is like, you guys being here and like, fucking she's so great to the fucking shit she did for us. And the way that.

Fuck. And I'm like, I remember looking at my friend and going like this. but it was like and look she was excited and the thing and the movie i came with the movie was but i remember her she was so good actress but that was it wasn't the best speech and i love that she picks roles like seaburg and stuff that wouldn't get made without her name on it so i think that also deserves credit of like actors that used their name to get movies greenlit and then kill it was that was that was that kind of what they were trying to pull off and smile too you think was that like a famous speech that happened or just an event you went to

This was that this was that maybe a hundred people there. It was a, it was a, we got, it was me and Tiffany Smith were there for, for Sundance, for this, like, after party and they brought, like, there was tons of people there. Like, I didn't know how the hell we got into it. But, like, we were there and we were hosting the whole thing for the, for the week. And so, like, all these people were there. But I was like, oh, cool. I was looking because I remember, whatever I can't remember what the movie was,

but I remember going, except what you guys are saying, great actress, really good. And I was expecting, like, this really, powerful speech was not Andrew Carnes Battenson being over the DCU Batman puts DCU behind the 8 ball yeah I mean I still I think there's more news to come out of that whole situation we'll see

I don't think the DCUs Batman is out yet so it's a weird thing to judge it's hard to say Armada Andrew Dice Clay as Jeff Snyder or Jeff Snyder as Andrew Dice Clay in a movie I could say you know dice let me tell you about

story that just broke. And then Snyder. I think Dice's Snyder would be more fun. Who's you're going on Twitter? Do you see that video and Dice like stalking Jerry through the Central Park and then Seinfeld realizes it's him and there's like a great moment of like he's following him for like five minutes and he's just yelling stuff like Jerry and then like Jerry realizes turns around it's a great photo I have to see it because Dice's Instagram is the best hey you you want

that picture I know I stand I don't normally do and they don't know who he is it's amazing buster Barnes I could see Deathstroke having a big role in the DCU teen Titans uh Waller a secret six with Bain and others could all involve him who would you cast the Who Would You cast is always a tough one Because there's probably people that are kind of coming up the ranks now That we're not as like like look how many of us before seeing Rebel Ridge knew who Aaron Pierre was you know it's like so he just kind of popped And now everybody's kind of in this circle seems to know his name so somebody like that

Someone that we don't really know yet but then it's like oh there's the new guys playing Bain there's new guys doing this there's no one's doing destro Um okay so Matt Thomas what's up Matt Thoughts, gun, confirmed they are screening Superman at this point makes me even more confident. I can't wait to review it. Hashtag views from Metropolis. So they are screening it already? Yeah.

Rumor is. Interesting. And like it wrapped a while ago and like there were apparently no additional photography days required because that's how the schedule was built. So the fact that like this movie's out in seven months. Yeah. Dude, this is what we talked about this last time. Everyone's like, oh my God, didn't have to do reshoots. didn't have to do anything he he he calls the shots and like so like normally what happens is the

director finishes the movie and like let's see when james goes working on guardians he goes all right you finish it now now Kevin needs to see it and i'm pretty confident with the cut but now Kevin needs to see it Kevin now has to get it to bob byger and by my he is he finished and goes okay he's done who are you going to call me ghostbusters yeah Peter Peter you want uh Peter do me favor sign this what is it it's it's just sign it okay And that's, and that's it. So he, you know, he doesn't have to be. And Zoloft is like, okay, whatever.

Is it done? I mean, made me money. I don't care. Major mucus. That's not major mucus. Just some support for Winston and Coy. Happy Friday. They are 26 away.

26. 26. Steph is, Steph is a shot. 26. Brooklyn, can we get Cowboy Winston? Please and thank you. No. You can't, you shut up late.

You can't do cowboy Winston. sorry go ahead oh I got to get the hat then no no no don't don't don't go into there's no time for props right there caratop all of a sudden what are you doing if you just we just bring it out

whatever answer the next question is cowboy Winston well Aaron the creative hey Christian have you seen Jeremy Johns's else world's review on Travaro's take on episode nine it makes rise of Skywalker look like Madam Webb no what is what do you mean is an elseworld's review as if as if it actually happened.

Is that what it was? I remember we did, I don't know, we did that. I think we did it on Sith Council back in the day where we took the comic book and reviewed it, all the panels. It was significantly better than anything that they wound up doing because he was the only one. Now, I don't know what the movie would have turned out like if you would have shot it,

but he was the only one who listened to the people before him of what they put in front of him. He paid attention to what Ryan Johnson did inside of Last Jedi about certain things in a way that they set up, you know, the legacy. He listened to what J.J. Abrams had done in the lore, and he paid attention all of it and then tied it together in the end. He didn't say, well, I don't like what that guy did, so I'm going to change it. I don't like what that guy did, so I'm going to do that instead.

That's what Ryan Johnson did to J.J., and that's what J.J. did it do to J.J. And that's what J.J.J. did I like that. I didn't realize that Jeremy, and I guess I don't really understand. Did he do, like, a review as if it happened? I don't really understand. Lord Monk, Coy, could Marvel make a Squadron Supreme movie? Yes, but I think it would be pretty similar to what they're kind of building with Thunderbolts,

where it's like the alternate take on a darker version of heroes, like Squadron Supreme is kind of their commentary on Justice League. And between the boys and Thunderbolts, and we have a lot of commentary on heroes. I'm actually looking forward to the DCU because it's going to be able to be the actual story of the heroes, then things like the authority in universe being their own commentary. So I don't think it's necessary personally. Shiron Broderick.

Coy, KDot dropped the new album? Yes. Dude, you got to go tell your black wife. You know, the only reason I like the album. That was it. I know he only listened to it this morning to impress his fiance. Yeah, by the time my fiance comes home, I'll get my brownie points. Baby, baby, wake up.

I got you collard greens and a new can't drink. I just want to make it for the note. Winston said that. I laughed after acknowledging that it was Winston. You made sure Winston laughed and then you left. Shea Marcell, dot channeled his inner Tupac on Reincarnated. Dude, reincarnated is such a highlight. That beat is like directly from 93 West Coast.

Like it is so good. Like I can, oh, I cannot wait for Winston here this album. I can't wait. I got two homies that keep, they have gotten to the point where they just don't like Kendrick after Japan but Butterfly. They were part of that group of people be like, nah, man. You're not, they are, they are gushing over this. I got to check it out.

Go Pal says, are there any locations in movies that remind you of real life? For example, the prison riot and Talia Death from Dark Night Rises were filmed across the street from my college apartment years later. I understand everything. So in basketball diaries, there's a scene where, I don't know if you guys ever seen that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio, Mark Wahlberg. There's a scene where they get into a fight on the basketball court. And that, and then they kind of go, that was right near where my. My dad used to live in the in Queens for like a stint and I know it very well. Christian Bail runs by my house in the fighter.

And whenever I'm homesick, I watch the fighter because I can see my house. Oh, that's hilarious. I went to Occidental College and it is very well known for shooting a lot of stuff. Some Star Trek stuff. The one that sticks out the most for me, though, is the DMV and don't be minutes to South Central. I'll drink you juice in the hood is actually my gym. Oh, wow. So it's really funny.

whenever that scene comes up. Oh, shit, okay. That's great. Curran K6. Winston, tell these good people about the amazing Christmas S-E-N episode when you guys did the 12 days of Christmas. We couldn't remember what people were talking about when they brought that up yesterday.

That was an absolutely insane episode of the show where we ended up just putting whatever sort of remixes and or impressions on all of the 12 days of Christmas. that was the day that we broke that record that I think wasn't touched until the all ladies show yeah that was an awesome day that's great uh Brooklyn hey coy your life depends on it you have to make out with a Snyder or Roka who do you pick you know I respect the passion in both of these men and I feel like they'd both be passionate kissers answer the question stuff I'm no I'm trying to decide if I'm the life depends on it I got to make this an informed decision

whereas I think Roka would be more of a gentle lover after all the passions weren't out on Twitter. I think Snyder being from Boston would make him someone that wants to learn and grow with his partner. But is it Dice as Snyder? All right. Dice as Snyder is the answer. Dice as Snyder to be my makeout partner. Wicked art. Who's your Spider-Man artist?

Mine is Humberto Ramos. Either Mark Bagley or John Ameter Jr. I don't have an answer. He was clearly asking you. Brooklyn, Coy, your life depends on it. Who do you have to make out with Winston or Christian? Well, I think we've made it pretty clear that I'm only allowed to like black culture. Yeah, it would be Winston.

That's the only thing. It's the only way to lose it all. Buster Barnes. That's it. All right. Buster Barnes. Thoughts on Gunn saying that peacemaker season one is canon bar the Justice League scene. I'm guessing in season two, though, we show the scene, but swapped the DC EU heroes with the guy Gardner stuff.

yeah i i found his comments very confusing it was basically me him going yeah i want i really want to keep doing peacemaker and i wanted to be part of the dc u and i didn't realize that at the time we made it so i'm just going to try to make it as try to make it as less confusing as i can but it'll still be a little confusing but enjoy yeah i feel like we won't know until we see it like how it's done so like i'm again i'm i'm reserving judgment until i know what narrative is done yeah yeah i talked a little bit on the blurred breakdown. I think ultimately the rumor that we were talking about that one of his helmets probably allows for universe hopping, probably something along there, and we'll see what happens. Aaron, the creative, which film is a bigger hit to Marvel if it bombs?

Brave New World or Fantastic Four also is Shee Hulk coming back or is she and the new in humans? I think that She Hulk, the character will come back. The series, no chance. which film is a bigger hit to Marvel? If it bombs. Fantastic four, no doubt. Yeah, that's like so devastating. That's such a foundation of everything going forward. Because it's also the lead into the Avengers.

This is the Brave New World has the Thunderbolts to cushion the blow of it bombs and Fantastic Four to cushion the blow of it bombs. But a fantastic four bombs, yeah, they're going to be big trouble. Yeah, I would have to agree. Yeah. Shea Markell. My cousin texted me at 2 a.m. about absolute Batman. man is that good huh it's it it is wild i mean like just just even taking such original

mental mentalities to the app for the absolute series of how each of the the the three in the the trinity the the dc trinity what their origin is it is it is a fresh interesting just way to go about it and and even who bruce is in this world versus what we normally know i am really having a good time with it they're teasing you guys right now 62 Two, 17 away. Guys. Come on, we can do this, y'all. Come on.

Mike Joyce, the Cowboys need a quarterback. Daniel Jones is available. Stop this. Ew. I don't want to, you heard you guys are part in ways with him, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I don't want that. Get out of here.

Matt Thomas. Gunn scared me with the news that Peacemaker Season 1 will be canon outside of just like, I agree with you, Matt. Most fans want a clean break and it's the only thing he said that scares me. I agree with you. It's because he clearly wants to keep doing it. and he wants to make it canon. So he's just going to kind of break the rules a little bit.

And I'm sure Zazloff as well was like, I mean, that show did do well. So go for it. You think Zazlov has any clue what's canon and what's not. He has no idea. I don't know. I understand that, but I'm sure that that was an easy sell.

If someone goes, wait a minute, wasn't that part of the old whatever? He goes, no, no, no. Remember how good the show was? Oh, yeah, it was. Okay, go ahead. Haskell. The table is being set.

Dallas can sign Jones. Then on Thanksgiving, we get Daniel Jones. in the Dallas Cowboys versus Tommy Cutlets and the New York Giants. What, no. It would be so funny. It would be so funny. Unknown D.

Hey, Winston, what do you think of dams and Idris in Marvel or D.C.? I think he'd be a great recast for Tachala or Kang? That would be where I would push him at this point, especially knowing, not that he couldn't do well in D.C. I'm sure there's other characters we can give him. I think the biggest void right now is we still don't have Tachala. And even if you need to bring Kang back, we don't have Kang either. I think that is a great idea, honestly.

Aaron, the creative. Whose agent is worse? Chris Evans or Adam Driver? Chris Evans. Adam Driver is in a lot of like potential. Great independent stuff. And a lot of potential Oscar buzz stuff every year. Whether, whether Ferrari was good or not, it was getting buzzed and he was in consideration.

Chris Evans is consistently doing stuff. I mean, didn't the same agent get him captive America? So I feel like the agent can't be that bad, bro. I mean since, but since is a question. Stuart Blackie. Hello, big fan since Clarede Alive. Thank you. I did a double feature with Twisters and Deadpool and Wolverine.

I got to say I like Twisters. I got to say I like Twisters more. What about you? I think Twisters was a bigger surprise. I think that Twisters had, I think Twisters has more heart than, than Deadpool and Wolverine. I think Deadpool Wolverine is a full-on comedy, to be honest.

There's some heart. There's some heart in Deadpool and Wolverine. But I think that Twisters had a lot of heart. I don't know. Different, such different movies. I can't separate my love of the characters at all, or my love of Ryan and Hugh, but I can say that Twisters reminded me of movies from before I was talking about movies, and I got to actually enjoy it.

Like Twisters was a really, Twisters felt like eating a meal at a family member's home from my childhood, and it felt so nice. Yeah. Aaron, a creative, which studio gets a reset first? Sony or Lucasfilm. Well, Lucasfilm's not a studio. So it's more of a production company.

So it'd be tough. Like if you're asking the Star Wars universe or the Spider-Verse, you probably have a better shot of the Sony Spider-Verse getting the reboot before. I don't know what it is over at Lucasfilm and what they have over Bob Iger, but they basically can make as many shitty decisions as they want. They can do whatever they want. Oh, man, you guys are only 13 away right now. Come on.

God, we can do this. Do it for Kendrick. Do it for Kada. Jay Mobile. Long time Spitey reader and a fan, but I'm so over these non-spitey having not that good as it is Venom made money sure, but not that good to me.

And Spidey movies, unless I hear it's great, I'll wait for the stream. I think that's what a lot of people are feeling. A lot of people feel like, I don't know what this is. Like again, I'm hoping word of mouth when it comes out,

changes the narrative, because I know a lot of people were surprised by the trailer. I know a lot of people got excited after the trailer but maybe not excited enough to commit i'm hoping the thing i pushed people over the edge is the broiness of a christmas movie and if the word amounts good Andrew carnes one dc one marvel hero that you'd like to see christopher nolan do oh i'll let you guys answer this one oh that i'd like to see nolan do honestly yeah i would love for nolan to do

the question i feel like that actually would be really really good to have nolan tackle that And then as far as Marvel goes, I don't think he would do it necessarily, but weirdly enough, a silver surfer movie. I'm going to go, I like that. I think for Marvel, I'm going to go Daredevil. I think he'd handle like the world building, the emotion, the action incredibly. I'd love to see his take on, you know, Marvel's Batman. And then, I mean, Moon Night is also, but I see Daredevil more for him. And then at DC, I'd love for him to handle.

a weird fourth wall break, but handled not comedically, and that'd be Animal Man. I'd love to see how he'd handle like a weird existential crisis of the character written by like Grant Morrison. So I think Animal Man would be the only way that could get made with the gravitas is Nolan. The Cosmic Wonder, jumping in again. Not sure how this question thing works, but to help Coy, Children's Crusade has Wanda, memory loss, with Doom.

Think Wanda might be with Doom and Doomsday? So the way question thing works is we set up in the beginning, of the week. We have different hosts on every day and the winners at the end of the week gets a little special bonus. So, um, okay. So what do you think about that with cause for winter? Uh, I think that she will be in doomsday. I think there's going to be elements of like Elizabeth Olson's arc actually getting paid off that didn't get paid off in multiverse madness in doomsday. I think we get some comeuppance. Uh, I think this, this children's crusade is a must read before doomsday because I do think a lot of this is going to pay off. A lot of seeds have already been

planted. Uh, good. Winston. No, no, I quite pretty much said what I was going to say. Julius Wyatt says. Hey, I saw Wicked last night. I knew nothing about the show. I hated the open sequence. Some of the CGI was iffy, but it did win me over in the end, a good time. Yeah, so I didn't really know a lot about it, but going into, I thought it was pretty charming. I thought the songs were really good. I thought it was literally, it looked like a stage production put

into life in the big theatrical and it was, it was charming. And I thought Ariana Grande, I thought they were both really, really good. they said but I couldn't believe because I didn't I didn't know anything about Ariana Grande except she's a you know the very popular singer I was so impressed with her again so Cynthia Rivo was was really good but there are Ariana every time she did I was like that is just that that is a really good performance sure reminded me the first time I saw um Reese Witherspoon in Legally Blonde where I was like this comedic timing is amazing yes yes yeah um Winston you're going to see it are you going to see them yeah I'm gonna uh the the plan is to see it night, I believe, and then to see Gladiator on Sunday.

Some guy online says, maybe I don't want, yes, I'm so glad you brought this up. It's my favorite. I'm going to do it. Maybe I don't want Jaboba. Maybe I want part. Sending a lot of love and a little support to the crew. Thanks for the daily entertainment. I definitely have brought that up in the show back in the past, and I assume that's why he

brought it up. But like, it was one of my favorite bits from when the laughter died. I'm walking around the supermarket and what I do is I look in the Subboba is like too how so expensive well maybe I don't have a deal on Subboba shampoo

well maybe I don't want fucking Zobo maybe I want Perth so what do I do I go over to the Subbo Boba shampoo pour it all over the place I get somebody's load, somebody's slipping and sliding over the place, and I pour the part into the suburb of it. So stupid.

I love it so much. And it's so good. Subboa. Oh, thank you for letting me relive that. How close are we? You're nine away. Oh, come on, y'all. Come on.

If you put in a dollar each nine of you. I know. We got this. good go pie sam garin also recommended speak from christin stewart pre twilight and very good she's got so many like a personal shopper seabberg uh like she's so good marcus uh longani which projects do you want gun to take after soups i mean i really want to i want them to establish batman he's doing it the way that we wanted them to do it in the dc e u instead of jumping right to Batman v. Superman. They, you wanted to see him do Man of Steel, do a Batman movie, do this and lead to it.

This is what they're doing. I want to see him lead to all the big would then do a flash movie, then do an Aquaman, Wonder Woman, do all that stuff and Bill for the next 10 years. I wonder like what he's going to direct next at because Superman being wrapped and her, him going into post production and him, I think they wrap peacemaker. I mean, they've been filming for a little bit. So that's got to be coming up on. So I, I wonder if we'll get an announcement with Superman is my point. Like I'd love. to find out what he's doing next. I kind of talked about that on Blurbed Breakdown because he did talk about it in an interview. He's like, I got four different things that I could potentially do,

but his main focus, and again, why I have so much faith in him is he's like, I'm making sure Superman's good to go. There's already landing in the pipeline. There's already super girl in the pipeline. I need to make sure that these are popping off. Even when he included, I'm also fine with Brave and the Bold needed to take, pump the brakes from it because I'm not going until I feel that that script and that story is on lock. So like I, I'm, again, Again, I have all the faith in the world for him because at least he is saying all the right things that he is really trying to make sure this works properly. Spidey Sensei, 72. Christian, can you wrap a Fushnikin' song as Arnold?

Oh, man. I didn't want to grow up because I'm a true Fushnikin. We got a million styles that we compile that we can play with. I'm a true what? I'm a true Fushnik. I am true what? I'm a true Fushnik. I'm true what?

I'm a true Fushnik. No, son, it's Buddha. See what I do? Lyrical styles. now what should we kick? Perfect. That was, wow. Thank you, thank you.

Christian just tried to do that because, you know, being black is cool. That's all that. That's all the reason. Come on, I got right doing that they proposed to a black woman. Matt Thomas. I read the script for episode nine. Much prefer what we got. I disagree.

Yeah, I thoroughly disagree. What we got was just cotton candy. And I really enjoyed, I mean, the, the absolutely ridiculous, predictable nonsense of turning Kylo Ren Good was the stupidest thing that anybody could have done. Yeah, I love you, Matt, but if I disagreed to anybody more than you today, I don't know who it is. Shea Markell. Why is it, do you think that more stars don't band together to get passion projects greenlit? They could take a Blumhouse-style budget approach. So, Ben Amatta doing? Yeah. It's not as easy. It's not as easy. Yeah, it's not easy. Yeah, it's not

easy but i think that some like uh what's his name john mayor just bought the um the muppets uh studio away from the scientology oh henson did he yeah dude mayor got it interesting i didn't know that so like that and that was him banding together with a few other people like because like that location i think got valued at like 17 million he paid 60 to make sure damn that they got to keep it away from them so like that does happen it's just you don't hear about it as like because i think a lot of people try to keep it to themselves a bunch of directors bandied together to save the theaters right westwood right yeah it does it happens it's just yeah it's true pld what's up hey guys just to support the guys and to la to launder christian's money that's right he's this is all going back to his pocket anyway

have you heard any more about what ed harris is playing in wonder man of course he cares nobody knows i i have not heard but i'm very excited for it for you uh see black i think wanda and doom might be together in doomsday thoughts uh that's what we kind of spoke a children's crew said i don't know how together but i do think there will be an important connection between them um okay and then Alex hey Winston i implore you to check out the lead single disease to gaga's new album that is coming out in february also her collab die with a smile just made history as the song's fastest to reach a billion streams on spotify wow yes there you go i didn't know that was a song i guess she's making music still yeah she markell i read that she holds

was recast is that true i didn't hear that i can type words too and press send i don't know i love say markell but the internet's a real dangerous place to take news from yeah uh the only thing i've seen about that is they pulled her off of the banner and they put deadpool where she was on disney plus i haven't heard anything about a recast yeah shay always like i and like she's wicked smart like i i love she's questions but like in this case i like the credibility is getting less and less on the internet because now people want the clicks that they'll run stuff even like just be careful where you read news ezekiel berrera i saw your penguin finale reaction was cut on the react tv channel love that channel is getting more exposure love the reactions i guess so cut out on the react tv channel you're saying i guess

they put my reaction on the channel oh that's great i didn't know that um can you send me the link to that isaicel that's great to know thank you man um yeah that was a really fun one to react to see black thoughts on galactus coming for franklin in fantastic four is It's the rumor. Well, Franklin is so powerful. You can create universes. So it makes sense that someone like Galactus that needs that kind of energy to consume things would want that. So if you already have Marvel's first family, have a family, it makes sense.

It's a logical narrative. I like the concept if they use it. Shea Markell. Speaking of Damns and Idris, are you guys interested in his film with Brad Pitt? I'm just getting into racing sports. I'm excited for it. I am excited for that. What's Formula One, right?

Is that what it's called? Yeah. It's like Days of Thunder meets Top Gun. using the other guy from the interview with the vampire. It's all the things from the 90s. Winston, you said. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I mean, look, I'm not normally big into racing films, but I was converted via Ford versus Ferrari. Yeah, it's really good. So if it has any sort of level of seriousness like that, I'm in for it. Matt Thomas says, hey, Christian, I think you had me send you the episode nine script years ago. You very well might have. I just, I remember, well, I read the comic version of it and really liked it.

the librarian of Alexandria. Grillermo del Toro has been silent lately. Thoughts on him doing a MCU movie. I guess I was a JTE reference. But I just don't know. I like when Del Toro does his own stuff because I don't think he's a company guy. I think he and I just,

I would rather see him do his own thing. Yeah, I love Hellboy because they let him play, but I don't know if that would even happen today with how much IP. So I just want to see anything, Guillermo, whether it's IP or his own thing. Yeah, I like it when he's able to just kind of cook in his own kitchen. Corrin K6, I can't wait for spilled a tequila. There you go. I think we passed Steph, by the way. We'll see. Buster Barnes, I just think the best way to look at Peacemaker,

is that the events he went through in Suicide Squad and season one is still happening for him going into season two. Yeah, I'm very curious to how they're going to do it. and how they're going to explain it um ezekiel berrera if you all could fund your own movie what genre science fiction fantasy you guys uh dark humor i don't think we get enough comedy nowadays we definitely don't get it in the there aren't comedies that i like often yeah uh probably a a i'm gonna cheat a coming of age dark humor sci-fi epic yeah give me cheap you still give me cheap you so give me genre seriously give me super bad blended with uh bill and ted and then you know then let's just run with it nerds engaged not trolling tell me why dune two isn't terrible come on man it's my favorite movie

the year it's easily my favorite movie the year it's that was this year yeah everybody says that it was one of the best movies in a very long time uh captain penis is here jonathan bailey is perfect for a dc u star wars role who's jonathan bill you dude he's the guy's the guy I from wickety, impressed the hell out of me. Oh, he was good. Captain Kirk from the 50s. Yes, he was great. He was great. He was like a mix of Chris Pine as Captain Kirk and like a research.

100%. He was great. I'd like to see him. He gave me that same energy that Trek with 09, like Pine gave me where I was like, this guy's a movie star. Matt, he's already in the interesting world. Okay. Matt Thomas. Amar, I donated to get you over. Get bail out. Oh, Jesus. The librarian of Alexandria, a biopic.

movies that you want to see one that is coming and name one you want to exist one that's coming i got to really look into i'm not sure but the one that i want is george carlin i think julie dog dogney needs a movie i don't know what is there one that's coming out you guys want to see i'm excited for james mangold's um what's his name bob dillon movie that's this year oh yeah yeah yeah there you go that's that's one of yeah complete unknown i want a heath ledger movie i miss he's like every day. Okay. I really want to, I really, really want Richard Pryor one. Oh, that's a good one. They were supposed

to be. De Hijack. Who would you have, who would you have make a Luke Cage feature, lead and director? I mean, my culture was so good, but it sounds like he's not. He might come. He'd probably come back. Think about that real quick. Give me an answer when we sign off, because we're almost done. Wicked Art. Winston,

did you see the steampunk version of your character in the Capes comic, the new episode? No, we got to send Winston the new. the new issue i still cannot wait for you guys read along with it love you guys can't wait until you're done to finish the whole series we're going to that's going to be like a two and a half hour issue episode when we do all the music and everything i can't wait um go pie what's the best part of thanksgiving dinner mashed potatoes with the butter coming up with some gravy for me stuffing just cheap stuffing as we say for me it's hilarious you guys both said that because he said for me

it's the stuffing or the mac and cheese like baked uh that's great yeah i like the mashed potatoes with the gravy and the butter pouring out of it. Librarian of Alexandria, say you're an optimist without saying, and I still hope for a Tintin sequel. I would love to see a Tintin sequel. I love that. I love that.

Okay, so the Cosmic Wonder, supporting guys, thank you, Cosmic Wonder. Favorite comic that isn't on screen yet? Well, it's on screen once, so it's a cheat, but I like to see Spawn again. A static shot. Mr. Miracle. T. Wiler, absolute Batman or the Ultimate Spider-Man. What do you got?

Ultimate Spider-Man, sorry. We're only two, we're only, do you mean like the current one they're doing or in general? If it's, okay, if it's the, if it's, if it's in general, I've had two book, I've literally had two issues of absolute Batman. So I can't, I can't do that. I haven't started the new Ultimate Spider-Man. So right now. All three are amongst the best comics of all time, though. Like so like Winston, like, that's a fair, I'm, you know, be to be torn. there are three of the best comics ever made uh matt thomas my issue with the episode nine was the total ignoring of other parts of canon the devils in the details like kilo killing ray's family at the age of 14 i understand that i just think that there's he just seemed to me like he was paying a little bit

more attention to what the other guys before him set up so i don't i understand that elusive rock based on both trailers it looks like taskmaster doesn't make it out of that room we find bob in in thunderbolts red hulk joined the same team maybe i think that red hulk fills in a lot of the blank space and the team image. Like, I think we're going to see a poster. That's the image we've seen Plus Red Hulk. And I don't know about Taskmaster, but I've heard that rumor and it might be true. Librarian of Alexandria, FYI people checking out the Koi cast.

I just started listening to the recent episode and I love it. Look, a nice plug there for you, Corey. I've been trying to plug my YouTube. I'm bad at plugging my podcast because I don't want it to be a commercial for me. But everyone watching, I also do a podcast that's available anywhere you stream your podcast. I just have so many things I put out and I'm so tired. Listen, please. And Stuart Blackie says, I've watched Logan four times this month.

It's a good movie to rewatch. I'll tell you that. Begill Studios. Have you guys seen that new Batman Beyond fan film? It's amazing homage for sure. Definitely gives some ideas for a rebirth of our universe. Kevin Smith sent it to me. I watched it.

It was fun. I haven't yet, but I want to really bad. It looks beautiful. Julius Wyatt. Christian, when you see a complete unknown, I'm excited. I see it in, I think, like, a week or two. See it soon, though. And the final one, guys, Buster Barnes, with Sergeant Rock rumors now seemingly true.

I wonder if the Darren Aronovsky Plastic Man rumors are true. Not a combo I expected, but it has me interested. Let's see. I love the rumor. I don't know if it's true, but I, that's, I mean, what a great concept. And also, Sergeant Rock is exciting. So both of these had me excited if they're true. I lied.

C. Black. Faggy said X-Men will show up in the next few movies. who do you want to see i i actually think cyclops would be great to see i think we need storm and cyclops to get introduced with enough time to care about them before the x-men for a change uh and i think some fun ones like jubilee and stuff would be great to sprinkle in just for fan recognition all right so night crawler it would be cool too wincy night night crawler would be up there for me sinister oh god please please please because i need sinister to be around that would be so good all right so it's it i i'm letting you guys know it was the last thing we did it you guys did as good as you

could I apologize but you beat step by 10 yeah 89 Winston and Coy defeat Steph in the final run here today 89 questions they have won the week and Steph has been dethroned so I won't lie I put I put a voodoo curse on on a fantastic form brave new world if it did if we didn't beat it so well there you go well there you go so the new champs are here we'll see it not today see who can do it we'll see who can do it next week Guys, real quick, where can they find you? You can find me at Coy Jondro. Sorry, that was going to Winston first. You can find me on Coycast anywhere, cast your pods.

You can find me at Coy Jondro on YouTube and Instagram. Occasionally Twitter. I just use those links now because I'd like to be happy. And you can find me here every single week, happily talking about all this stuff with these gents. Find me in the internet. It trembled us. Which one do we miss? He said we missed.

You didn't answer that question. Which question we miss? Oh, the Tarantino. Someone said Tarantino for Luke Cage. Luke Cage, director, um, an actor. Uh, Winston, who directed straight at a Compton? His name's escaping me.

I know what you're talking about, but I don't remember off the top of my head. The director straight out of Compton, I've wanted to do a comic thing, so I thought that was such a cool team up dynamic, so we can handle characters well, and like the hip hop culture in Luke Cage, so straight at a Compton director.

And then actor, I defer to you, so we can team up on this one. That's a great question. I don't have an actor, because I'm trying to think of somebody that would get jacked like that. I mean, I would be fine without his Hodges, like acting ability but i just don't see him putting on that kind of weight personally um that's

gary gray thank you audience what did he do yes what do you do the director of australia concert what did he do to you ha ha ha hold on a second i got i got matt i got mad sarah on the line hold on hey matt you're on you're on all the all you're you're geeky people that that that love you know we're talking on, we were just talking about Marvel and DC and everything on capes and cows. What is Christian like in his coffee? You want a coffee or no? No, I'm all right.

I had a coffee, right? I'll see you in a couple minutes. All right, brother. Bye, everybody. Have fun. That might be the ghost New York man. I have heard. Oh, I love the coffee being like, hey, audience. What's Kristen like in his coffee?

Right. And if they answered him, he wouldn't even be involved. All right. So you actually, because of the Matt Sarah phone call, we got one more super chat in there was number 90. Any chance of getting the weird super friends like Apache Chief or Black Voltron on screen anytime soon, guys? A Black Volt and Super, yeah. I got Harvey Birdman. It's Super Volt. I think it's possible because of how big the world's going to feel with already established superheroes.

And it's cool because then you can do more obscure ones, even for a moment. So if there was ever a time, it's now, we'll see, is my answer. Yeah. I mean, if you were, the only thing is I think if you're going to do it, you maybe have done it in Superman since we're kind of getting a justice society. situation and that's going to be closer to super friends but who knows maybe yeah um thank you guys know we got to ask has to we got we got to go because i got as you see sarah's we're shooting a couple episodes of them so thanks for being here thanks for everybody uh for tuning and getting Winston and coy to the magic number of 90 they did it and thank you to you guys make sure

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