The Kristian Harloff Show - FALSE ALARM? Kathleen Kennedy Is Staying On At Disney after-all!

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

In today's episode, we dive into the swirling rumors about Kathleen Kennedy's possible retirement from Lucasfilm. While reports suggest she may step down by the end of 2025, some insiders say there's nothing confirmed yet. What does this mean for the future of Lucasfilm, and is Dave Filoni the right person to take over as president? We discuss all the latest developments, including Filoni's potential rise to the top. We also talk about Netflix's big move with IMAX for The Chronicles of Narnia, and how that could change the game for the studio's theatrical strategies. Plus, the Russo brothers tease a radical new approach for Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars—what can we expect from the Marvel Cinematic Universe as the two films start production? Join Kristian and Clarke Wolfe for a detailed breakdown of these major movie news stories, including exclusive insights into the future of Star Wars, Marvel, and more! #starwars #lucasfilm #marvel #marvelstudios #netflix #avengers   Check Out Clarke Wolfe's Youtube Channel:    / @officialclarkewolfe    Let us know what you think in the comments and don't forget to like, subscribe, and ring the bell for more updates! ROBINHOOD: Investing involves risk. Rate subject to change. 3% match requires Robinhood Gold at $5/mo for 1 yr from first match, must keep funds in IRA for 5 years. Go to http://www.robinhood.com/boost.   EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/khshow Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee!!

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Clean Kennedy, out at Lucasfilm. Not so fast is what they're saying now. They're saying, not so fast. She's staying on at Disney, despite a report that she is leaving. How true. Well, there's a follow-up report that if she does leave, when she does leave, Dave Filoni's going to be the person to take over. I'll tell you why I think that's a disaster.

We also have a big battle going on with IMAX, Netflix, and the rest of the studios, drama is afoot. And anytime I can say a foot, then you know it's going to. going to be some kind of show. We got the great Clark Wolf on the show here today with me, just two of us, chopping it up. So enjoy this episode of the Christian Harlow show with myself and the classiest one, Clark Wolf.

So thanks, everybody. Make sure you are already subscribing to this channel, Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere, podcasts are found. Let's do it. Tis the Christian Harlov show on this Wednesday. Joining me on the show today is my very special guest. Clark Wolf. Hi, Clark. Hey, everyone. Hi, Christian. Good morning. How are you? Good morning for me. How are you? I'm good. Thank you very much. Always a pleasure to have you on the show. And even more, we should celebrate because at this time, the YouTube channel is afloan. You have been doing streams. Tell me about that. Yeah. So twice a week, I'm doing a live stream on my show Sending the Wolf. And we've actually, I've actually now finally started to split it up and do one guest. week and then one like news show a week. And so last week I had Michael Kennedy, who is the writer

of Heart Eyes and Freaky, really wonderful screenwriter, loves movies, loves pop culture in general. And so that was such a wonderful journey, especially, I don't know if you covered it on your show, but, you know, Hard Eyes did something kind of unheard of, which is like its box office is just like, it grew in its second week. And so we talked about the industry and all that. And then yesterday I had Anthony de Blasie who directed me in Malam, but he's also a Clive Barker protege, just a really fascinating filmmaker. And then, of course, we get the movie talk on the Thursday show. So I'm really hopeful that, you know, the audiences, the interview and conversational elements are more podcasts like. And then, yeah, and then the news show is like the

movie talk show. I love that. And everybody should be checking it out right now. And it's, if they just check Clark Wolf or that what is it? Yeah, YouTube.com. official Clark Wolf. Okay. Luke, if you're watching, please put that in the description of the video so people can find it that way and even put it in the comments, please. Well, that's great. And I'm happy that you're doing that and I'm excited that you're doing that. So people should definitely be checking that. Did you follow this news yesterday with the Kathleen Kennedy stuff? Yeah, I did. I did. I saw it a little and, you know, I think it's funny because I think the last time, oh no, the last time I was here, we were talking about Narnia. And we're going to talk about that again. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I did read about the news and it does look like maybe they're backtracking a little bit. But, you know, I think Kathleen Kennedy has done a lot for film and pop culture in terms of like over the last couple of decades. But I, you know, I think I agree with you that it might. I actually don't know how you feel about it. But I feel like her time, it might be time for her to pass the torch. My opinion on it was I looked at it like a sports team. I said, look, you can bring in people. and say, hey, look at this person who has won various championships and has been done very well on other teams, that person would be a great person to coach this team. And they coach the team and they don't use the assets the right way. They don't code. It doesn't take away from the stuff that

they did previously, just shows they weren't a right fit for the team. And I don't think it's the right fit for the team. You know, and I think we've maybe even talked about this a little bit too, where, you know, like I, for instance, like with Lucasfilm in general, I am a big Willow fan. And I was I was disappointed in the series as a fan because, but it was so internal. Like the Kazdens and it's like it seems to me like the, these IPs are, they're kind of under lock and key and it's very, very hard to get new blood and new energy, you know, into these franchises. And I understand that someone like Kathleen Kennedy, who has earned her stripes, wants to

keep the old boys in place. But at the same time, I just don't think it's keeping up with, it's not giving up. It's not giving the fans what they want. No, because she's also not grown from the old school mentality of producing. She just hasn't even the way that she puts directors on and puts writers on, but it's just very old school. And it's time to move away from that. It's time to go a little bit more, like, especially with these IPs.

And you look at what Marvel did and what DC is now doing. There's other rumors that, and we'll talk about it more with Philoni and Favro, could be running Lucasfilm if she leaves. I think that's an absolute terrible. terrible, terrible decision, but we'll discuss that. Oh, I want to hear about that. Terrible decision. But let's talk about this first, because my brother

sent me this thing tomorrow. The two things he asked was one, Clark's on the show? I said, yes. And the second thing he asked was, or not yet, asked, said, she's never leaving. Because here is the, this is this report here. Where the hell is it? There it is. Okay.

This coming in, to which my brother sent this to me this morning. Star Wars Chief is staying on at Disney despite a report that she is leaving, at least for now. So here is the report itself says rumors that Lucas Films' long-time president Kathleen Kennedy may be leaving Disney, have swirled for quite some time. But reports that Kathleen Kennedy were retired at the end of her contract might be jumping the gun. Puck reported Tuesday that Kennedy, who was 71, expected to step down as president of the story. production company behind the Star Wars franchise before the end of 2025. Several news publishers have followed up with their own reports, but a source familiar with

the matter tells CNN that it's not the case, emphasizing that there's nothing there right now. Any announcement of Kennedy's retirement, if indeed there's anything to announce, will be made public when actual decisions are made, the source told CNN. Lucasfilm did not respond to a request for comment, and a spokesperson for Disney did not comment for this story. Kennedy joined Lucasfilm in 2012 as co-chair alongside George Lucas before being named president shortly after Lucas parted away with the company following Disney's $4 billion acquisition of the company the same year. Kennedy has been hailed for rejuvenating the Star Wars franchise after she launched the latest trilogy in the Star Wars universe while the three installments of the sequel trilogy were massive successes at the domestic box office.

The movies were plagued with diminishing returns with 2015's The Force Awakens from JJ Abrams pulling in over 936 million, followed by 620 for The Last Jedi and 515 for the rise of sky. Walker. Still, the three sequel movies pulled in more domestically than any of the three prequel. And of course, that's domestic that they're talking about. Under Kennedy, Lucasfilm released a new Star Wars movie every year from 2015 to 2019, though these likewise were met with mixed success. While critics, he praised on Lucasfilm's 2016 Rogue One, which nabbed over $532 million at domestic. They were less kind with the company's solo, Star Wars story, between a humble 213 domestic, solo whose budget was at least $250 million to say nothing of its pricey marketing, it was also the first Star Wars movie to lose money.

Still, as Star Wars movies saw diminishing returns in the silver screen, Lucasfilm pivoted to focusing on streaming, debuting The Mandalorian on Disney Plus in November of 2019, just as Disney streaming platform launched. Since then, Lucasfilm has put out five other live-action shows, including two more Mandalorian seasons, The Book of Boba Fett, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Asoka. Let's not forget about the accolite.

Oh, there you go. Here goes the acclade. Why not all Lucasum series have achieved a claim? The accolade was canceled in August after just one season and mixed reviews. The company recently released a trailer for the much anticipated second season of Andor, which is set to premiere on Disney Plus on April 22nd. They don't even mention Skeleton Crow or Skeleton Crew. Making most of the streaming success of the Mandalorian, Lucas Woman, 2024 announced it was working on a feature installment of the series

The Mandalorian and Grogu from John Favro, its first movie release since 2019. Okay, so there's a lot here. This could be a potential spin, and I'm curious if you feel that way, where it's like maybe that information clearly from the no comment from Disney and the no comment from Lucas films

that somebody leaked this, and they're like, hey, wait a minute, we wanted to do this our way. We wanted to do this at Star Wars Celebration. We wanted to do this to where she could go and make the announcement and not have it leaked. So there's no plans until we say there's a plan. So it could be legit, but they're just saying, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute. Or someone who has heard that, you know, she was going to be stepping down.

There is no definitive plan as of when. Maybe it is after Mandalorian and Grog who comes out in 2026. I don't know. But if I'm Kathleen Kennedy, though, and I'm sure she would have seen this anyway, I actually think that this announcement coming out yesterday and seeing everyone basically throwing a parade in the street, that it was. happening would say, why don't even want to do this? Part one. Part two is now that if she isn't going back, it's going to make it even worse because now everyone's like, oh, we thought you were

gone. Oh, now you're back. Great. So how do you feel about this? And do you think that this is just spin? I think that if Kathleen Kennedy or someone, let's even say someone like Kathleen Kennedy is leaving Star Wars or Lucasfilm, then it's going to be a slow rollout. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think it's going to be like resignation effective tomorrow. You know, this is not how big corporations that are worth billions and billions of dollars handle business. And I do think that no matter what the fans maybe feel rightly, wrongly, somewhere in between, Kathleen Kennedy is someone who does deserve the respect and will.

And I believe that her people she answers to from a corporate perspective, they agree that she will exit on her terms. So I think she will be afforded that respect. Is it spin, maybe? That's what I'm saying. That's why I think it could be potentially spin because it's like one of these things like, well, wait a minute.

They don't get to, as you said beforehand, my brother was saying the same thing. This is essentially her terms or not her terms, but it's one of these things where, look, let's say they decided her and Bob Iger are like, okay, it's just not working out, time to go. We discussed this yesterday in the show, but it's like, oh, right, well, let's plan it out to the end of the year,

whoever you guys bring in, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, usher them in, we'll, we'll, we'll make the moves, we'll do everything, and it'll be essentially looks like me leaving on my own terms, you know, if you have seven, eight months, you essentially are leaving on your own terms. If you get to pick your successor, you're definitely living on your own terms, but we don't know that's the case. Nonetheless, it leaks, and it goes out there, and she don't like that, because she's not the one I leaked it, and she didn't, like I said,

they want to do it at, um, at, at, at celebration or wherever, else it is and they say just tell them nothing's official because that's what they say here nothing's official until there's an announcement that's essentially what they said so they didn't necessarily it looked like okay maybe they jump in the gun there's no plans to leave right now they could also just be saying oh there's no plans there's no plans there's no plans or not and and re-mail what they're saying is there's no plans to tell you assholes right now that's that that's the plans um that's what i think it is i still think she's going but either way Kathleen Kennedy whether not she's going to be there or not.

I don't know, but if she isn't, there's a new report that says that Dave Faloni is expected to be announced as Lucasfilm's president when Kathleen Kennedy retired. To as Christian Harnell said, so Kathleen

Kennedy's time as Lucasville president reportedly nearing its end, a new report reveals that Asoka and Star Wars Rebel short runner David Faloney is already being lined up as their successor. This is a bad plan. Following the news that Kathleen Kennedy is gearing up to announce her retirement as Lucasfilm president. Speculation continues to run rampant about her potential replacement.

Even Kevin Feigey's name has been thrown into the mix. No chance that happens. Fans haven't appreciated Kennedy's stint in charge of the studio. She has delivered some successes for Disney. The Star Wars sequels were box office hits, and Disney Plus was launched on the back of the Mandalorian, but there's also been many failures. Whether it's the countless Star Wars movies that have failed to materialize

or the way Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny and Solo Star Wars story underperformed, the majority agree that a fresh face calling the shots would not be a bad thing. As we first reported on SFF Gazette.com, Scooper My Time Shine Hello claims that Dave Filoni is a candidate to replace Kathleen Kennedy after she steps down from Lucasville next year. Don't know how much I buy that, though, because, like I said, there was a report from My Time to Shine Hello about Amar Jade thing last week that I just, I know is not true.

So I don't know if this is just one of those stories, or there might be some merit to it. That might seem like an obvious suggestion, but the highly reporter has confirmed that, yes, Faloni is Kennedy's reporter confirmed it. Also, Flonius Kennedy's likely successor, Dros Lucas himself, mentored him. And after cutting his teeth as a creative on the Clone Wars, Faloni has worked alongside John Favro to spearhead Star Wars streaming stories. Having Helmed Asoka in 2023, Flonie is knee-deep in pre-production on season two and is still expected to direct his own Star Wars movie. How can Lucas film's chief creative officer balance that and calling the shots in the studio? it's hard to say, but the trade notes, Flonies already Disney's choice to succeed Kennedy

and predicts that it will be announced at Star Wars Celebration in April. One reason. I want to know why you, I have no skin in this game in this respect, but I'm so genuinely curious why you and I'm taking a look at chat, like why you all feel so strongly that this is not the right move. Because I thought when I first read this, I was like,

oh, the fans love what he's up to. You know, so like tell me, tell me more tell me why uh i will i like that song uh tell me more from greece anybody anyway thank you um so if you go went back if we had if if if right afterwards of our conversation that you we talked about in 2017 2018 you you turned to me and said hey i have a question for you what about dave phillone running a lucasville i would have been saying what a great idea that's like i love that um and i was also one of the people every day in movie talk saying that he should get a shot at live action. He should be doing this.

And to be fair to him, there are some episodes that he directed at Mandalorian season one that are probably some of the best of the entire season. And there's some stuff that he did. And does he know Star Wars really, really well? Of course he does. And was he a prodigy of Lucas? Yeah. The problem is he holds two, he's first of all, not a full, an executive, a full on executive like to run an entire company to do that. I mean, if you're going to do something like a James Gun, where you're going to, James Gunn is not running all of D.C. The business side of it. He's running the creative side of it.

And he had Peter Safran to do the business. Yep. Bring in a business person too. Don't let him do all of it because there's no way he's going to do it. This is, it's impossible. Plus, um, the main reason why is because I feel like he has this idea in his head of what Star Wars is because he studied under George Lucas and has and does not budge. And you can't tell him any different from what I've heard.

also and things that I believe true is that there's just a he he's a he's a a gatekeeper into certain things and there's certain things that he is poo poohed if you will that would and I know and the fans would have loved and because they're not Star Wars George wouldn't like that that's not it and it's that kind of stuff plus the fact he's also not a very good writer as far as live action goes like the dialogue in Asoka was atrocious and some of them and some of the the storyline and Asoka was atrocious. Now, working with Favro, again, I just don't know

if Favro wants to do the whole thing. I think they need somebody, you said it before, fresh blood, somebody knew, like, and I always say this, and I reiterate this, Kevin Figey, no one knew who Kevin Figuge. You didn't know who Kevin Figukeg was until you knew who Kevin Fikeke was. You know what I mean?

And that's what they need. They need some new executive who is like, I don't know, again, anyone between 35 to 55. And I'm just throwing those ages. That can be someone who's older than that, but you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Someone who is hungry and that is what that loves this stuff. The passion that he's got for just Star Wars is one thing. But that's the other thing. Is Lucas from just Star Wars? Is it, you know what I mean? And Flonis the Star Wars guy. I think him running the company is the worst decision that they can make. I think it is an absolute, the worst decision that they can make if they make him the lead guy. You're just going to get Filoni, story. and you're going to get the same thing that he's just what he wants to do his Star Wars and it's not it's he it would be a really bad bad decision it does seem very insular you know it seems like there are like five people in this clubhouse and and that's not good i mean i think it's clearly not good for

growing the business and expanding the business you know and looking forward yeah it's just like what i mean yeah it just see it just seems like it's it's going to be as where right now it's Kathleen Kennedy's Star Wars. It needs to be Dave Faloni Star Wars. It needs to be Star Wars. Yes. I think that's a really good way to put it. Yeah. It's right now it is clearly Kathleen Kennedy's Star Wars and then it's going to be Dave Faloni Star Wars. But he does not have the audience support the way that he did five years ago. Because guess what? He's still been an advisor to all this stuff. The acolyte was terror. The Skeleton crew, I can't speak and people liked it, but nobody watched it. Um, the book of Bovette, he's an exacter producer on.

boring. Obi-Wan, they dropped the ball on Obi-Wan, and if he wasn't advising on it, he should have been. So all of the shows have essentially been under his watch. It's been, Mandelorian season three, minus Katie Sackoff, was not very good. It was, he's had two good seasons of television. Asoka was, I mean, like I said, there's some good episodes of it, but it's pretty much just, it's, like, if it was written for animated, it probably would have played better because you can get

away with things in animation of the look and the way that certain things are happening that don't come off they won't come off goofy in animation but they'll come off goofy on live action and and especially from from dialogue to action to everything and he is just I think that he should go back to animation to be honest he's very good artist a very good story he's a very good storyteller but um running running the ship um i'll follow it with a mat sarah I trust you on this one because again, this was more informative for me. I'm so curious how, how, yeah. And so I'm, that's a really interesting perspective, though, to hear from you.

So we'll see. I just, you know, again, as a lifelong, you know, consumer of these Lucasfilm tales, you know, truly. I mean, I grew up on all of these things and they absolutely all kind of. contributed to my love of film and pop culture, I want to see the growth and expansion. I want to see the new ideas and the new creativity. And because that's what, to me, that's what Lucasfilm was all about when they were making these sort of cult niche. Like, obviously, Star Wars was and is the biggest thing in the world, but with Willow or

with, you know, labyrinth even at that time. And, you know, so I, my, I guess, to sum it all up, I just, I hope that. But I hope that they can take a more wide, a wide view on the material as opposed to just narrowing in. And I think one of the thing that I get soured on is because I don't think he's a big fan of like the old Republic era, which is essentially like thousands and thousands before. Which I know you love that. I love that. And I hope that the Knights of Republic and those things. And he won't do that.

He won't go that far. He won't go to the games. He won't do that. He says same stuff. The same reason why marriage aid ain't happening. because Lucas held it that way, so Dave's got to do the same thing. Dave's got to do everything that George did,

but he also, there's certain things that you should absolutely stick with what George did. Absolutely. Like the, I can talk about great storyteller, probably one of the best of all time. But there's other things that you got to evolve. You got to evolve from the way that things are,

well, in 1977, it was made just for kids also. Okay, but adults and everybody else still gravitated towards it. And then most kids grew up and they took, and it took and those kids grew up and they showed their kids who showed their kids enough. And it's like that is something that is for everyone.

And it's not just and you, the prequels are definitely built more towards the kid style of humor. There's no doubt about it. There's a lot. I mean, Revenge of the Sith probably you could argue against that with there's some darker moments in it. But and Lucas himself said it was pretty much made a little bit more for kids, but you can switch things up. And I don't care what anybody says.

He does not like. And or he doesn't. And it's the best written. It is the best written stuff that they've done for Star Wars since Empire Strikes Back. And there's a reason it's only two seasons. So I think that it, yeah, that would be, there would be a horrendous move if they put him there.

So when they announced it at Star Wars celebration, you should come back on and we can talk about how horrible the choice it was because they did that. I will listen to you talk about. I feel like I feel like I've already said too much for a thousand lifetimes in these last 20 minutes. That was going on in your head the last day. Yes, 100% sitting here being like, what have I done? I know you still. I know you feel like, oh, wait a minute.

Maybe I shouldn't have said any of that. Anything. Anything. Really? I should just say nothing. Why am I here? Why do I do it? You're like, you're ready to text me going, hey, can you cut?

Oh, wait, we're live. Yep, sure. No, no, no. Yeah. I get it. I get it. Like, I've been there. All right. Let's take a break real quick. And I'm going to go to some of our wonderful sponsors and tell you guys about them. And I think you're really going to enjoy them. I'll tell you about both of our sponsors here today. And I think you've been, I've been telling you all week about them.

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this is so wild like so spicy for an iMacs iMac is spicy everything going on and for people who don't know what we're talking about i'm about to tell you because there is so much drama with your mama. No, no, there's so much drama with the IMAX thing and Greta Gerwig and Narnia and all that. Listen to this. This is crazy, though. All right, so AMC, CEO wants movies in cinemas way longer.

AMC theaters CEO, Adam. Aaron, unsurprisingly, wants movies to play exclusives in cinemas for longer. What may surprise you is how much longer. The head of the nation's largest exhibitors spoke during a quarterly earnings call today and said there was a very live debate right now going on regarding cinema exclusivity windows and that they would like to convince all the major studios that they should keep movies in theaters longer. Windows between a film cinema release and its home video digital release have shortened over time with VHS. The delay was six months. At a time of DVD, Blu-ray, it was around three months, 90 days, and its state. that way for a long time, shrinking ever so slightly to 74 days by the end of the 2010s.

With the pandemic, the window has gone down to 45 days, but some, most notably universal pictures titles have gone to digital quick as 17 or 30 days via PVOD. More consistent is that there is no consistency. If a film flops, it will go to streaming sooner rather than later. If it's a runaway hit, it'll generally stay in cinemas for longer. Aaron says that's not good enough and wants to go back to just a consistent 45 days, but pre-pandemic levels again. In our view, 17 days or 30 days are too short.

And this is a conversation that is front and center live. We believe everybody would make more money if the windows were longer. So watch this space. We'll continue to see what, soon we'll continue to see what can do to convince the industry that it should be firm around 45-day number. And once we get there, maybe we can, extended to 60 days or 74 days like it was pre-pendemic. We will learn together, but this is a very live topic,

whether studios will give up on PBOD, which has become a solid cash count for Universal, and others remain to be seen. Multiple releases over the past few days have indicated the PBOD releases, don't catalyze box office sales. I think there was a different story, huh, Clark? Yes, that was. But I do think, but I do think they complement each other.

So I think one leads to the other for sure. Yeah, so talk on that one real quick while I find the other one. Absolutely. So here's my thoughts here. Like I, I as a fan and as a new filmmaker, like absolutely agree that this window needs to be longer. So I mentioned it earlier, but like let's use the example of Hard Eyes. You know, Heart Eyes is a Valentine's Day slasher movie that came out the weekend before Valentine's Day. Very smart and savvy marketing move, in my opinion.

let the, because they believed in their movie, right? So you let the positive word of mouth grow. And then as a result, what happens is instead of yanking the movie from the theater, you know, on Valentine's Day weekend, you see an actual increase in the box office, which rarely happens. But similarly, at that same time, you have something like Companion, which is a movie that I absolutely loved, get yanked out of the, you know, it seemed to me like the marketing assets on Companion kind of took a dive,

pre-valentine's day and then and then it got yanked out of the theater relatively quickly and now it's at home so why do I bring all of this like example and context up because if distributor if the theater owners are actually saying like please let us have the movies for longer it probably is because they think that people will come to see the movie you know like I don't think that they're just looking to I don't think that I think they I think it's a complimentary like business sort of savvy. And so, but I also wanted to mention Sean Baker's speech at the Indy Spirit Awards this weekend, talking a little bit about how now that Blu-ray and DVD sales, that market where studios can make up so much of their profit and so much of their budget,

that allows movies to be considered quote unquote successful, now that that is gone and these theatrical windows are so short, I think it all just kind of feeds. into exactly what we're talking about. And so I agree with this. I think this is like give them, give these movies more time. And, you know, I, and I think it does feed, though,

into the, into the IMAX story that we're going to talk about as well. Yeah, if the theaters want the movies to sing, because, you know, the one arguing could be like, well, maybe the studios just wants to move them out because they're not performing and they want, I mean, not the studios,

the theaters, the theaters want to move them out, because they're not performing. And, but if they were the ones that want to keep them for longer, because it's probably harder for them to keep shuffling in new movies all the time. Plus, they have schedules, like, okay,

this will play in theater, this will play in this. And at least they're, even if there's like eight people in one screening, at least that's still eight, eight people that are buying concessions for that thing. Now, there's,

the theater business has just changed so dramatically in general. So like the, the window is tougher because of the movies that are, that there are too. Like, if I'm a studio, I kind of understand, though.

It's like, okay, look, we don't want to keep the movie in the theater. It's not performing at all. It doesn't need to be there anymore. We want people to see it because look at like air, right? Like air, did you see air? I did. I did. I really liked it.

I loved that movie. And that movie was built for streaming. It was built for streaming and it was built for, and Apple knew it. And Apple's done it and they did it with Wolves also. I said, okay, we'll put it in the movie theater. It's not going to make any money in the movie theater. And it didn't need it because people don't go see those kind of movies in the theater anymore. And then they said,

don't give it, it's got a short little window, and then it's out. And that's exactly what they did for those movies, and they have a strategy for it now, because they know what movies are going to, what movies could hit. Now, horror movies,

horror movies, you were talking about before, you mentioned just before when you were speaking about hard eyes and those things, there are movies that just, they have as a smaller budget, and they have these crowds, and they have,

and people want to see them and people still want to feel that way. Right. There's certain things that just, like rom-coms don't play in theaters, really, and, uh,

but point, counterpoint. anyone but you made over a hundred million dollars theatrically sure but that but do you know why like let me use that as an example because that was a Sony movie and at that and the the sort of business sort of analysis that I read was that you know Sony doesn't have a streamer and so as a result they were able and and it was to be fair to the context of the situation it was that time kind of as we were coming out of slowly coming out of COVID. where there wasn't a ton that could be released theatrically

because production was all behind, right? But they let the movie sit. It came out around Christmas time. It was counter-programmed you, yeah. Yeah, and then they, but they let the movie sit in the theater through February. And so it cleared $100 million domestically. That is...

Did it make that much? Yeah, I think you're right. Yes, it was a huge. It was a massive hit. But, like, the other reason why that I say take shots on movies like that, to the actual if you're going to do it is that movie probably cost 10 to 20 million dollars sure yes 100 percent so when it makes 100 million that's a massive product but if you went out and hired two big stars and each one of them cost 10 million you already got 20 million plus the

budget then it's 60 million then it goes to 70 and then you're a 130 million dollar romantic comedy it's like I'm not doing that well now we're talking about how how movies bring back the mid-budget, the mid-budget movie, which that's a whole other complementary conversation, but like, you know, absolutely a conversation worth having. Totally. And there's certain times that people will go and see those types of movies. Anyone about you, there was a Sandra Bullock Channing Tatum movie that came out, which are- Yeah, the La Citi.

That movie did very well. I'll tell you that Julia Roberts and Clooney movie did better than you think that it did. So there is still a market for. it, but it's easier to find those types of movies now on streaming. True. More eyeballs will, absolutely. Like, more people will watch it at home. It's like, what are we going to do?

So perfect example, even though I didn't finish it, my wife the other day was like, let's watch something together. I don't want to watch anything too dark, too heavy. And the new Bridget Jones thing. And she's like, let's start watching that. I start watching it with her. And then I don't know, I trailed off, whatever it was. But like she watched it.

She really enjoyed it. She ain't going to see that in the theater. Right. That's true. That's not an event movie. You're right. No. So there are certain movies that, and the example also is René Zelliger knows the lane that she's in right now. And she didn't. This was a perfect movie for her to do. I think it's Peacock. Perfect, right? Because Sidney Sweeney and Glenn Powell, they're two big hot actors and actresses and people are, they're sexy and people want to go. It makes sense. You try to market them absolutely. And again, it didn't cost a lot of money. Today, if you make that movie with the two of them, you're not. going to make it for that budget very true that's very true and on top of that i think but i do think it's worth pointing out that that movie did not have a huge opening weekend that was sort of an overtime and so i think that's more of what we're getting at is whether it's a rom-com whatever it's a horror movie whatever the genre is like you know i'm sure you've talked about juror number two but that's another example like why was i i i'm halfway through it so um i haven't finished it yet

But like that was a story that, you know, us nerds were like, wow, how they did Clint Eastwood so dirty for his final movie. And it's really entertaining. And it has an incredible cast. It's a great movie. It really was in my, I think it was in my top 10 this year. And also with how arguably like weak, you know, some of the Oscar, I would argue this is maybe weak is the wrong word. A strange year for the Oscars, let's say. you know juror number two could have absolutely i think made made headway in within that within the

oscar space so just a real miscalculation on warner brothers part but again their incentive is not to honor and you know honor is the wrong word even it's because it's a business for god's sake but like that's they don't have an interest in same with coyote versus acme like they just don't you know so it's it goes on and on and on yeah i understand and then and that ties into the story that we were going to talk about. Now here it. So this Narnia story, this is the juicy one that Clark was talking about here. Let's get to this.

And IMAX is ready to go nuclear for Narnia. Okay. That's the way to handle it. A few weeks back came confirmation that Netflix had reached a deal with IMAX in regards to Greta Gerwig's and Chronicles of Narnia film. Under the deal, the streamer would give the film a two-week exclusive window on IMAX screens around Thanksgiving 2026, a month ahead. of the movie launching on the streamer that Christmas.

Some have tried to spin this as Netflix testing the waters for larger theatrical exhibition plans, something the streamer subsequently denied. For them, it seems any potential theatrical releases of an original film would be looked on as a case-by-case basis, meaning depends on who they're negotiating with and which actor they don't want to walk away. However, now a new report at Puck has tackled the missing part of this equation, the other studios and exhibitors. They indicate rival studios and U.S. cinema chains are furious about the deal and how it was

made without other studios input. They claim Disney, who released two previous Narnia films, is said to be angry because it means their untitled animated movie released movie scheduled for Thanksgiving 2026 has now lost out on IMAX screenings. The studio is also, also has a Marvel film opening a few weeks earlier on November 6th. Other theater chains like Regal and Cinemark have reportedly implied they won't screen Narnia at all. But IMAX CEO Rich Gelford claims to have a nuclear option to make these theaters play Narnia on IMAX screens. Speculation about that nuclear option ties to a potential deal with AMC theaters, which owns around 46% of the 400 IMAX screens in North America.

AMC CEO Adam Aaron says commenting on such potential deal would be inappropriate. filming on Greta Gerwig's Narnia film is slated to commence this summer. Hot take stuff here, Clark Wolf. Right. What, um, this, that you're right. It does couple up to that last story. You know, same thing, same comment, same guy talking about it. So what do you think about this?

Well, it just, to me, I think that the underlying here is that the, the, the, the, the, the, the, what am I trying to say? the focus on the iMacs specific releases it has to be because it is more financial dollars right like that is can you can you illustrate why this is such a big deal for for you know iMacs to or for the studios and the distributors to be like wait a minute we need those dates we need those days it's because the ticket prices are more expensive is that correct yes yeah and so so again like i it's like well if you could just if you're could just like it seems to me that the fear is that too many people want to go to the movies.

You know, and so I don't know. Like do you, do you have, do you have thoughts on this? I mean, it's like it's, there's a look, there's one part of it that it's a bit of an ego. You didn't check with us first. But there's also because we have our movies and it's our business and we want to make sure that because there is extra dollars with IMAX tickets and adds to that box office, obviously. and if Narnie is there and it takes away from some of those screens for Disney, yeah, you can see why they would be pissed off at that for sure. I get it. And maybe it is bad business for the theaters to not say,

hey, look, we've got this deal that we got for this particular movie with Netflix, and that's what we're looking at. And let them chime in, let them see if there's any other deal or anything too. I mean, maybe they should have been included in the conversation now that I think about it. But then again, it's AMC and they're like, look, this is this, this is who we're renting out the theater to for for those two weeks. And that's our, that's, that's, that's who we're choosing

to sell the theaters to those two weeks. Well, you know, I will anecdotally say that, um, over the Christmas holiday this last year, um, I really wanted to see Nosferatu in IMAX. Um, and of course, with Mufasa out at the same time, the only screenings for several weeks of Nosephratu were literally 10 p.m. screenings in iMacs yes and and so and and every single one when I would check and I would consider like okay should I go should I not every single one was like um sold out or or really full so people were showing right yeah but people were showing up and so I do think that this kind of points to a bigger like a scarcity problem in terms of the iMac's of it all um because I you know I there's there was clearly a market for the R-rated artistic horror movie on IMAX and then also the

the Mufasa you know which is more children or anything. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I think that there's and it's just that extra money for short it's like it's IMAX is becoming more and more of a thing they're going to start building out more of them because it's it is the premier way to watch it. It is such a great experience to watch. I'm what did I see recently in IMAX that I just was like.

like, oh, this is, this is the way to go. It was, I can't remember what it was. I'll tell you, the best theater experience I had last year, actually, and I wasn't even expecting to even go to this thing. It was, it was regal, it was in the city, and it was regal, I can't remember 4D, I don't remember what it was, but it was this massive screen for Wicked, right? It was how I saw, yeah. Oh, my God, Clark, it was, it was, it's my favorite theater that I've ever been to, as far as this particular screen went. It was so, it was, and it enhanced the, the experience for me. Same with Noseferatu. I mean, I finally, when I did finally see it, and I had seen it twice before, I think I told this story on your show, but the short version is the first time I saw it,

I didn't have my glasses, and so I couldn't really, you know, and the second time I saw it, the projection was horrible. It was a 35-millimeter. But once I finally got into the IMAX, I was like, whoa. Like, this is truly, legitimately a different and the definitive experience to see the craft of this of this cinematography of the you know what I mean and so like it it really does it really can make a huge difference it is you know it's funny because I will tell you that for me if I could if Narnia took the place and it won't but if Marnia took the place of like the Odyssey yeah because the Odyssey oh yeah there's no world where I'm not seeing that in IMAX yeah like that movie, Nolan's movies, like Oppenheimer, I've seen, I think all of Nolan's movies I've seen

in IMAX. The first one I ever saw, actually maybe first, I don't know if it was the first IMAX movie ever saw. I've seen, I saw IMAX movies. I mean, they had IMAX screens back in like the late 90s, but they had, um, but the first movie experience, I really remember seeing is the dark night when Ellis and I, they invited us to go before we even really, we weren't even reviewing movies, for, and Shmows at least, but we went and saw Dark Night and it was an IMA. And it was just, I mean, next level stuff. And I think there's going to be more and more screens and more and more of the footage. Remember, you only used to be like 15 minutes of the movie.

Right. And now it's, now it's significantly more. I also, they just released seven in their new restored Fincher just did a whole big. For IMAX? Yeah. And they released it in IMAX for a weekend. And I got, and I went to see it. That wasn't like an industry thing.

That was just like in January in honor of the ultra like 8K or whatever it was, crazy restoration that Fincher just did. Yeah, one weekend. And I went and saw it in IMAX and I was like, wow. Wow. It's just so maybe, maybe what we'll get is like this, maybe what we'll get going forward is like an IMAX run, you know, like if the, if the real estate is actually so limited and you have these films that like they can sell out. Yeah.

I mean, and that's kind of what we were talking about with Narnia last time I was on was if Netflix is going to be weird about the theatrical release and all of this. this, then, you know, like, okay, it's getting a limited IMAX run, but like maybe, maybe other films will go that route as well. Maybe so, you remember, like, I think it was after Avatar, the first Avatar, that all the theaters and everybody started doing 3D and like, it was like, every movie was 3D. And like, that was like, nobody, nobody asked for that. Unless it's like good 3D, right?

Right, right. And that's the difference, yes. Yeah. And it was few and far between it. It's easier. It's easy. easier in a certain aspect to get a high quality image in iMacs than it is like a great because it converted all that 3D stuff and a lot of the conversions did not work a lot of it just looked bad and it was

just like they and they forced you to to wear the 3D glasses at times like yeah and i'm like oh man this is this is awful for that it was like a fad this isn't a fat this this this improves the quality of the movie in general the iMAX and i i hope that they do start building out more and there's more um experiences for people to so you don't have to just wait for a two-week window. You can see it in its entire run. Yeah. Yeah. Um,

all right. So we have two more stories to get through. And then, um, we are going to get some questions. Now, Clark, we've already has 20 questions. It's going to be a little tough to beat, um, Mike and Roxy this week who had 250. So that's, but they just, they just, what kind of questions are they asking Mike and Roxy that they're not asking me? There's a lot.

Well, she's also, Roxy's got this one particular fan who is the most loyal fan of the world comes in and just throws in a whole bunch of support for every day. On Tuesdays. I got to get one of those. Yes. And we'll get,

but give it time. It'll happen. Let's go with this story. Not the best. Transformers, Star Trek writer, Roberto Orsi has died. He was 51. Orsi reportedly passed away in his home on Tuesday,

following a battle with kidney disease, according to his manager and a statement to the Hollywood reporter. Of course, he was best known for his long-time collaboration with Alec Kirtzman, the pair met at school, and together began their careers writing for Zena, Warrior Princess, and Hercules the legendary journey in the 1990s. The pair teamed then teamed with JJ Abrams on the Spy series, alias. Before he and Kurtzman created the acclaimed sci-fi series Fringe, they were Abrams' go-to-writer's producers working with him on Mission Impossible 3,

2009 Star Trek film reboot and the film sequel Star Trek Into Darkness. On the film, he and Kurtzman also wrote Michael Bay's first two Transformers films in the island along with Martin Campbell's Legend of Zorro, John Fabros, Cowboys and Aliens, Mark Webb's The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Gavin Hood's Enders Game, the two. Now You See Me films and Kirchman's 2017's The Mummy's reboot. On TV, he helped develop over 200 episodes of 2010, Hawaii 5O reboot, co-created Fox's Sleepy Hollow, executive produced series like Scorpion,

Limitless, Matador, and Transformers Prime. The Mexico City Born Orchie is survived by his father, Roberto Orsi, Sr., mother Marquis, Robo Garcia, siblings J.R. Orsi, Taylor Orsi, and Courtney Ford. So, Clark, when I was sending these stories, you actually have a personal story that you worked with Roberto. I did. I did.

So, you know, this is, it's just sad in just, in general. I want to be clear, like, I'm not, we were not buddies by any stretch, but, you know, early in my career at Nerdist, I did a lot of work with Bob, not only on his show Matador, when the L. Ray Network first launched. I covered that show from start to finish and wrote a lot of pieces and went to set and, you know, with him, with Bob and with Robert and, you know, this cast. And then also I ended up hosting and producing the official Sleepy Hollow podcast for season two. So Bob was another person or Bob was on that show as well. And so, you know, I again, I didn't know him.

Like, I mean, I worked with him and had nice conversations with him professionally. I know he had some struggles over the years. But it's sad. It's really sad. Like for a chat who maybe doesn't know or. doesn't have that context. You know, Kurtzman and Orsie from 2005 to 2015, I mean, you know, they just were the guys in movies and TV. They, they, and he just, it's a remarkable, they're just, they have a remarkable story. And I'm just, I just wanted to say that, you know, again, I know that

Bob had his troubles and, and he was very open about his alcoholism. You know, I think later in his life especially, but 51 is just too soon. And it's really, it's really sad. Way too soon. Yeah. As we always say, it's just anytime you have stories like this, and unfortunately it's not our only one like this today. But it is way too young. As you always wish for peace for their families and everything. There's really no transition to it, especially when the next transition is something the same and even younger. Buffy and Gossip Girl actress, Michelle Trash, Has passed away at the age of 39 years old. Schell Trachenberg, an actress known for her roles in Buffy,

the vampire slayer and gossip girl, has died at the age of 39. Treschenberg was found at Wednesday in New York City, apartment near Columbus Circle just after 8 a.m. Local time by her mother, police has told ABC, the source told ABC News, the actress recently underwent a liver transplant that may have been experiencing complications.

Nathan was believed to have died of natural causes and no foul play is suspected. an autopsy will be conducted by the medical examiner's office to determine the cause and manner of death. Like, you mean, that's just horrible, and so many levels horrible. Not that the previous story wasn't horrible, but like just hearing, A, 39 years old, B, that she's having complications from a surgery potentially, and then C, that her mom found her. It's like, oh, what a horrible story this is in general. And, like, again, just heartbreaks for her family.

Yeah, I mean, and I'm seeing it in chat. I've been seeing it in chat like all show. But she was a huge part of my childhood for sure. I mean, growing up like, you know, from Harriet the Sky to Buffy, I'm a huge Buffy fan. And kind of everything in between. Like Michelle was, she, she was a formative part of like a lot of pop culture during that period of time. And yeah, and 39 is just too, too young. So my thoughts are, certainly with her friends and her family and her loved ones because, you know, it's, um, that's a tragedy. It's really sad. It's horrible. Absolutely horrible. So again, for everybody who's been letting us know about it, first of all, thank you for making us wherever.

Secondly, uh, I just, you just never know, like losing, losing a child. I mean, oh my God. 30, and her mom, I feel so, I mean, her mom just, that's just, I hate it. Anyway, so there's no easy. transition to it, guys. And we've covered a bunch of things today, and those are the last two. And again, nothing but love to their families. And that's it. All right, before we move on, we'll take a little break. And then we'll get to the questions with myself and Clark Wolf. And I got to tell you guys about NordVPN. I've been telling you about NordVPN all week. I'm going to continue.

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There's no risk with Nord's 30-day money back guarantee. The link is in the description of this. video. So once again, thank you to NORVPN for being a part of the show. All right, Clark, Wolf, you ready for some of these questions? I'm ready. Come on, chat. All right. Here's this what we do. So we go through the questions and they keep us on for as long as they want to keep us on. Great. Long day, it's a long day. If it's a short day, it's a short day. Okay. Let's start from the top here. And again, thank you to everybody who has been contributing less far. 25 questions already for Ms. Wolf. I like it. Like it a lot. All right. And if,

anything you want to ask Clark. Again, make sure that you go and you check out Clark's channel. The link should be in the description for that channel right now. I'm pretty sure that Luke put that in there. First one is from Mad Sinister McHale. Purple Circle or Green Square. Choose wisely. Do you know what this means? I sure don't. I don't know what it means.

And I trust Mad Sinister, so I'll go green. Okay, I'll go purple. Okay. Next one, Mike Joyce. You see articles about, what is it? Anora Oscar voters hating on Dune 2 because it's anonymous anonymous thank you do you see articles about anonymous Oscar voters hating on dune 2 because it's too long they also voted for Brody over Ralph would I call him last time you're on no what did you call him when you when Sam Ron I call them um what did you means or something I can't remember so fiends I think fiends is right now fiends uh because they thought he hadn't one they also voted for brodie um Okay. I don't know what that really means.

Well, so around this time of year, there's all those anonymous Oscar voter stories, articles, and so on. And so, yeah, the question, I guess, is about, like, it, Dune 2 is too long, which I guess I kind of understand that criticism. And I love Adrian Brody in The Brutelist. I'm team Brutalist for Best Picture. So, yeah, but I, and I forget, Dune was that your favorite movie of last year? It was. Yeah, yeah. I liked it. I did finally watch it.

And I liked it. I just, I had been told and not spoiled that like, okay, you know, the Messiah, like the chosen one arc and except it's going to turn it on its head. And I was like, oh, okay, great, like sign me right up. it didn't really, to me, that wasn't enough of a turn. And so I kind of was like, oh, all right. So, you know, I liked Dune a lot, though. And I think the thing I've been saying on my show, you know, and across the board is like with Denny Villeneuve and John M. Chu specifically, you know, making great pop art. Yeah. If it was easy, everybody would do it. And so the fact that these two were left out of the best director nominees, I think is just like incorrect. I think.

Especially the fact that John M. Chu won Best Director at Critics Choice Award. Yeah, for sure. I think, you know, that's, I will say about the award season. That's something that I've been really appreciating is all these different voices, all these different award shows. Getting a lot of respect and attention is kind of, it's great because you are seeing a variety of things get accolades and, you know, recognition versus, you know, versus just a standard Oscar fair. Yeah, I'm curious how it's going to play. Because I really, first of all, as far as Brutelisk go, brilliantly acted by Agent Brer. I think he'll win, although I wouldn't be upset if Salome won for Complete Unknown.

Brody will win. And I would totally applaud. The guy was phenomenal in the movie. It's beautifully shot. It's beautifully directed. I think that Guy Pearce should win over Kieran Culkin, winning everything. Kieran is just doing what Kieran does in every. movie and TV show. I really, I like, I like Guy Pearce a lot for

for us. Yes, my Pierce or, or Ed Norton, those, those two, but Kieran Cokin went. But the brutalist to me lost me in this, in the, in the last half of the movie. Like the first half was just, I was just locked in and then the second half just kind of lost me. Brilliantly made film. Absolutely. I understand why it's getting the love, but I, if I was voting, I would, I would obviously vote for Dune too, personally or a nora which i also like did you like yeah i like nora i like it but um i didn't love it the way that i think a lot of folks did and also i i i do think that um you know to me it's a little it's a little long like a little meaning like all of the scenes go on a little too long that's my

that so it kind of takes you i took me out of it but i think the performances are fantastic and um you know, yeah. It's going to be an interesting, an interesting award ceremony to say the least. Simon section, Ms. Wolf, back in the Collider Days, I remember you saying that you weren't necessarily a Star Wars fan, especially their stories like Rogue One. Did you see it? If so, what did you think of the last Vader scene? Horror Light? So I am, I do very much enjoy Star Wars, and, but what I, what I would say is that, you know, I kind of Christian and I talked about this over and over again. And I haven't read the books and I haven't seen a ton of the animation. And so as a result, like, you know, for instance, yeah.

So anyway, to answer your question, I have seen Rogue One. And that scene with Vader rules, it's awesome. And listen, here's a thing, though. Like, I've been doing a big Spielberg deep dive. Like, I was just on a podcast called The Spiel. And so I revisited. Is it just the whole Spielberg podcast? Yeah, yeah, it's Eric Vespi.

And yeah, and it's really fun. But, but, you know, I bring this up because I watched a couple, rewatched a couple of Spielberg's movies, and then I rewatch that documentary that's on HBO. And one of the things that I think I got from that, especially when they're talking about Indiana Jones or when they're talking about making movies, you know, earlier in their career, it was all a hodgepodge of genres.

Right. You know what I mean? Like, it wasn't just like, like, Like an adventure or a B movie could mean action and horror and suspense and romance. You know, it didn't just have to be one or the other. And so to me, there are incredible horror-esque sequences throughout the Star Wars universe. You know what I mean? Like throughout the history of Star Wars, there's great scares.

There's great, Darth Vader is a great villain. So, yeah, but love the last Vader scene. I like it. Rogue One has gotten simply better for me every time I've seen it. Al Rensha, just throwing in support for Clark. Thank you, Al follows it up. I saw the Kennedy thumbnail and I instantly got sad. No, well, like I said, and Clark and I both said,

let's see what happens when you get to celebration. Let's see if they decided they want to do it on their terms and not by a leak in the trades. And so let's see what happens there. Railroad tie and the golden jukebox, great name. Heart emoji, keep it up. Thank you, railroad tie. Appreciate that.

That's a great. What a great name of the Golden Jukeye. I want to go see that band. Okay. So the next one after that. And again, thank you to everybody who has been throwing in the support here on this Wednesday show with myself and Clark Wolf.

Clark, this is your third or fourth appearance now on the show? Yeah. I love having you back. Thank you. And now. I'll never come back again. Hey,

I didn't do anything. No, I don't. Invincible Arson. no offense to her, but Kathleen Kennedy's legacy is ruining the biggest franchise. I saw the Force Awakens 28 times this week. Whoa. Two times, wait, week one, sorry, week one.

No longer and will not bother with Star Wars anymore. You know, that's the funny thing, though. You know, it's like, let me ask you, Invincible Arsenal, if you had a new executive going in there with a new plan, would that change your mind? I wonder. I wonder too. I don't know. I don't know. If you have a new executive,

will it change the plan? But right now, like I said, I do think that, my brother asked me this question. What did he ask earlier today? And I'm curious what the audience thinks about this too. Who do you think,

if you were going to pinpoint damage to Star Wars, what do you think did the most damage to Star Wars out of these six? Kathleen Kennedy, toxic fandom, Ryan Johnson, J.J. Abrams, Jar J.J. Binks, George Lucas as the director of the prequels. I'm not answering this question. No way. I don't have any thoughts on this. No, no, no. I'm curious what the audience thinks about that one. Yes. What does the audience think? Exactly. All right. So John Ashford. Hey, Clark, do you think we will ever get a good modern take on a werewolf? I want to see a wolf just run around a muck. I was hoping that was when L. 1 was going to be. Well, you know, here's what I think. Like, it's really tricky. Isn't it? I do. Yes. Of course, my answer is, yes, I do think that there's always, there's always a way to do something well. It just honestly comes down to, it just comes down to, being in the right hands with the right vision. And, you know, I'm very, Robert Eager's next movie is going to be a werewolf movie.

It is not going to be present day, you know, so a modern day take, you know, but I do think it could be a really fascinating take on a werewolf. And, you know, I also think, too, like, I could, I can totally see somebody, you know, studying, going old school, studying Rick Baker's transformation in American Werewolf in London. and sort of saying, okay, how do I want up that? And then that's a big part of the pitch and somebody with money getting excited and saying, okay, yes, I'm going to actually invest in a in a werewolf movie where we let the artists do the transformations, practically move the technology and the, meaning, or the special effects forward.

So, you know, I think, yeah, I think we will. I just think we're in a weird time, especially with what things cost and what fan expectation is. And honestly, what studio expectation is, too. Totally agree. Met Bull, my friend James, can you explain the value of an executive producer versus the director? Would Spielberg be Spielberg without Kennedy? Well, the value that is a great question. But the executive producer also can be, there's different roles, right?

There are some executive producers that could just be money people, and it could just be putting money into the movie. Then there's other executive producers that are very hands-on with creative. And then there's other executive producers that were handed that credit because they said, hey, I was involved in this day. I'm no longer involved in anymore. I'll take off and you pay me, but I want an executive producer credit. And they don't do anything.

But the second part of that, would Spielberg be Spielberg without Kennedy? I feel the answer would be yes. I'm not taking away anything that she's probably helped him with over the years and all the things that creatively she's able to do. But his creative, you know, what he's done as a director, he's a great. And I'm sure he would have found another great producer to help him. But I think she helped, but I don't think, I think he'd still be Spielberg. But Clark, how do you feel about all this?

There's a, her legacy with Stevens, was undeniable. I mean, and I think for whatever, you know, I think that that partnership is, is really, was clearly very important to, to his career. And also, I do think like right place, right time, her vision, her eye, her sensibilities, and then combining with Stevens Spielberg at that time.

Again, I just did this deep dive into Spielberg's work and rewatch that documentary. So it's very top of mind. So I think, you know, here's the thing that I think a lot of people don't know. Because, to your point, Christian, producers are different. Like, you know, the title can mean a lot of different things. And so what I would say is that I think that it sounds like she was a very involved, hands-on producer in Steven Spielberg's legacy, especially in those, you know, the 80s, 80s movies, you know, specifically. So yeah, I think her contribution to film history is absolutely

undeniable. Yeah. And I think that it's just because, again, it's not, not every producer could run a company. Right. It's, it's so. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot to be said, but we won't go down the road again. Um, okay. Next one, thank you again, Metpole for chiming in there. We're currently standing at 39 questions. Pretty damn good. Invincible Arsenal, I was 16 and took a week off school, L.L. Pain. Am I missing that too? I don't know, actually. And I took a week off school.

What did I miss? I missed something there. Something earlier. But let me know Invincible, what I missed. Okay. So as we moved on and all that again, we have a lot of new members. I was thank you. And just to take a quick plug, we just put up our reaction to the first Spider-Man

movie with Toby McGuire, my friend Sam, we've never seen it. She saw it. And now we're going to be watched it. We were just number two. That comes out on Friday. She's coming in today. So we're going to, the third one is the only one she had seen because her kid watched it on a repeat. So we'll, we'll, uh, we have a lot of the, with a lot of stuff coming up. Al Rensha. I have hated Flonie as a creative head and I would not like him as a studio head because he seems to focus on one era. Executive needs to do it to do all eras. Executive needs to focus on more than just Star Wars. You need to focus on stuff that's going on. at the parks and other things that are happening and other other movies are they doing would they

do it Indiana Jones uh animated series will they do more games you know all the all this and that's the other thing that sucks i was hoping that the new person whoever came in would link in the books and the tv the books and the games and all that stuff the way that they that essentially like what james gun is doing only doesn't give a crap about the books and the in the games and stuff and the stories he just let them do their thing so it's like oh what a bad decision and now will you please be a bad rumor. Black goatee became a member. Thank you so much.

Like I said, we were just, we're getting, and that's a good time to become a member today because I'm going to put up a new, the unedited reaction today. I don't know which one yet, but I'm going to put one up today. So you guys will be able to check that out. Go pal. Yeah, RIP, Michelle, Professor might need to re-watch Euro trip tonight. I got to watch. I haven't seen that in so long, but I remember everyone kind of, that was one of the ones people could bring it up with her.

Do you remember that movie fairly well? Oh, I remember it, but I was never one of my favorites. But I do remember that that sort of dodgeball kind of era. Yeah, for sure. Patty Boy, who's been a member for one month. Oscars around the corner, I'd love to know what movies, performances you love from the noms. Anora, I loved Mike. Mikey, was there, is her name, right?

Mikey, what? Madison. Madison. Madison. Madison. I think you're right. She thought she was great. I am in the minority.

I think Ariana Grande was the standout of a weekend. Oh, yeah. I think she just knocked the ball right out of that park. She was hilarious. She was her time. I thought like Cynthia Rivo is just like a, like her singing is, is incredible. Right. And I knew that was, I thought her performance was good.

I thought Ariana Grande's performance was next level. I thought she was like, I wasn't a fan. of Ariana and I said, oh, she's a singer. I didn't know she was funny on those other shows that she was on. But like, I was blown away by her. I want to see her in more comedies. Oh, yeah. And I think she wants to do more comedies to be honest.

What was the, oh, the rumor is that she was going to be in the baseball sequel. Oh. Yeah. There was a, right? I love that. I love that rumor. I have not heard that.

Yeah, we covered that in the show a couple of weeks ago. It was, she was, she's rumored to be, to be, uh, thinking about, getting taken a role in the spaceball sequel sign me out that one i love that now it's funny before wicked i would have said come on but now i'm like yeah hell yeah um let's see nos ferrat too as far as what movies oh in general yeah nos ferrat too but that's not that's not nominated for anything this fraught to isn't i think cinematography and like you know more more yeah should be nominated for cinematography the movies beautifully shot yes um so other performances that i'd love i mean yeah you mentioned Ned Norton for

Complete Unknown. I mentioned Guy Pearce for the Brutelist. So those are the ones. I think they're getting overshadowed by, I'm confused by all the Kieran Cokin wins. I really am. Well, I just watched a different man the other night. Sebastian Stan? Yes. Yes. And I mean, it's a strange

little, it's a strange movie, but Sebastian Stan, and I say this like every time he has a movie come out, he is an incredible actor. Just every time I see him in something, he's a chameleon and he's obviously a very like traditionally handsome person. And yet somehow, you know, he can slip into like in a different man that is sort of the point is when he becomes the version of himself that looks like Sebastian Stan that we know. He's obviously gorgeous. But then his really, uh, terrible personality in the in the film makes him less attractive and that is all

energy acting like it's just really good and he's great in the apprentice like which he is nominated for this year Jeremy strong is great in the apprentice as well but like I just I just want to shout out Sebastian Stan like he's doing great work and I hope he's a long career I think you will I think you will Tim Sim the great Tim Sim what's up Tim interesting thought with Amazon buying James Bond and the Kathleen Kennedy discussion if she's retiring or not from Lucas from. What a turnaround from 10 years ago of being excited of seeing more from an IP after being bought out to being bought out to being anxious of where the IP goes. Yeah, I know it is. It is strange that like, you remember, I'll never forget this. Mark and I, Mark Allison, were

with the with Machinima was our MCN at the time, right? And we were, we were shooting stuff with them. We were doing a bunch of stuff with them. It's how I met Elliot Dewberry and we were shooting there. And he was headed back to his house. I was headed back to my place. And we got word that Lucasfilm was just sold to Disney. And I called him, I go, dude, we got to do a video. We got to make a video.

We were so excited. We got new Star Wars movies and new ideas and all this. We were like so pumped and like amazing how like 13 years later we're like, it's amazing. how that can happen. And the same thing, James Bond is the other thing. How did you feel about the Amazon getting a hold of it? Do you, you, you as bummed as everybody else? I mean, I just, it was more surprise for me. I follow the Bond franchises as a fan, as a movie fan, not necessarily as a Bond fan. And if you know anything about them, you know that the, you know that the broccoli

family is very protective of that IP. And I think a lot of people never thought they'd see the day where they relinquished creative control of that character. And so, you know, I don't know. My problem is that it seems like the people who are in charge of these tech companies that now make movies, they don't like movies. And, you know, so, and I like, I kind of being funny, but not really. You know, like, and it's sad. It does make me sad. And I do think that in a world, look, James Bond is obviously very commercial.

right? This is like a huge franchise, but at the same time, there is a bit of class. There is a little bit of prestige that goes along with James Bond. Not just anyone can make a James Bond. It's a big deal who's playing James Bond and so on. So, you know, I think it's, I think it's a bit of a bummer, but let's hope for the best, you know? Agreed. Corn Emperor, preach theaters keeping movies longer. We'll see if that happens. We're going to see if that happens. Big Boss becomes a new member. Thank you, Big Boss. Brian McGovern, surprised how narrow the cinema windows

is. I remember I missed the days that some movies went into a second year of release. I don't think it's happened since the 80s. No, I think it happened. Well, second year release. How long was Titanic in the theater forever? Oh, God. In the theater forever. Yeah, that's life was in the, I remember that

when being in the three. Oh, really? Oh, sorry, Toy Story. Toy Story. Toy Story. Yeah, I remember a lot of those, I mean, that's back in the day, The movies would just go, hey, ET's been out for six months. Let's go see it. If people were paying to see it, they'd keep it in the theater, you know? Yeah, and the meet, but again, even we were, my, my wife and I were talking about this other day with, like, our television, we watched our Saturday morning cartoons are like these little boxes.

You never remote control and all that. It's just the entertainment systems have changed, like the way people in just media is changed. Like my daughter, my six, six-year-old, couldn't even fathom the idea that, well, what if I wanted to watch a show? It's like, well, you have to wait until eight o'clock when it was on. She said, what do you mean? I can't just look for it. They don't know that. And it's like, it's just media has just changed dramatically.

It really has. Tim Sim. With James Bond being bought by Amazon, I get it because that spy franchise is not like Marvel, DC, or Star Wars, because there's very little to potentially to spin off. Happy to see Clark and hope all is going well for her. Thank you. Tim's been a big fan, Shirewolves and everything back in it. Oh. Tim's, uh, Tim's the man.

But yeah, Tim's right. Um, it's harder. Like, well, but they're still going to do it, Tim with James Bond. They're going to spin off, um, you know, they'll probably do the M, the, the, the, the, the, double O series and they'll probably do a Q series and they're probably doing the stuff now because they can. They're going to try to milk it for every penny that it's worth. At least that's what people are, are fearing. So we'll see.

Maybe, but I, God, I, acknowledge that that's the fear from the fan base too. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. Ewk, Clark, what are some of your most anticipated films in the next year or two? For me, my top three are Nolan's Odyssey, Spielberg's Disclosure, and Guns Superman. Yeah, I'm looking forward to all three of those, especially the new Spielberg movie. What a mystery. I am, my most anticipated movie of this year is Giermo Deltoros Frankenstein. Oh, yeah. I'm so excited

for this. Giermo is my favorite living director and he also is a lifelong Frankenstein just he's obsessed with Mary Shelley. He's obsessed with that book. He has such a reverence and I think

whether it, I think the only other thing he's ever wanted to do more is make a lovecraft at the mountains of madness adaptation. So it sounds like he really got carte blanche to make the film that he wanted to make. And so I'm just endlessly curious. So Frankenstein's at the top of my list, Guillermo's Frankenstein's. I'll tell you what.

I loved his Pinocchio. You know what? I started it. And then I was like, I'm not ready. Because Pinocchio breaks my heart. Like it truly, and I know Guillermo does not pull punches. And so I was like, I can't. I just haven't emotionally prepared.

myself to watch it. You need to. It's brilliant. And it was in the same year that that Pissbox that they they're one that the live action, Zemeckis when they did. Right. Right. Awful. Just awful. But DeLoros Pinocchio was incredible. I'm pretty sure I made my top 10 that year. Legend MM 600. Dude, I love this show. Thank you. Yeah. So curious what you think Deadpool is going to be like. Oh, okay. My bad. I mean, Daredevil. I'm excited for Daredevil. Yes, very soon at the screening. I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be for Marvel what Andor was for Star Wars. I think it's going to be that layered. And I think it's going to be a brush for a breath of fresh air. I'm really excited for Daredevil. And I, I've been reading too that some of these, you know, like, you know,

the Jessica Jones might come back and so on and so, meaning like in this, they're considering all of this and with the new characters and series. And so I'm really, really on board with that. uh mike joyce support for park thanks mike support for rufus even better perfect best boy how's rufus doing he's okay he's old old man he's 15 wow oh holy so you just move in a little slower and you know but he's he's hanging in there old horse i love it i love it Alex rillis with the decline in star wars what's going on what with what's going on franchise what's what's an ongoing franchise you can think of that continues to knock it out of the park

also Clark both is awesome thank you an ongoing I like I like Game of Thrones and what they're doing with Game of Thrones right now I know that people will disagree because they didn't like the last season of Game of Thrones and then but I like what they have then picked up

with House of the Dragon but it's hard everybody has their ups and downs right what's a franchise that's been crushing I'm trying to, yeah, now of course I'm going blank on what franchises exist and what they are. What are some franchises? John Wick, yes, that's a good one for sure. John Wick's a good one, yeah. I'm about to start a rewatch of the Mission Impossible movies.

I have a lot of holes in my, I haven't seen the third one, which I know, speaking about, you know, I know a lot of people love the third one with Philip Seymour Hoffman. You've ever seen the third one? I haven't, no. Oh, I think the third one is responsible. for basically reinventing the entire franchise. Yeah, that's what I've heard. That's what I've heard.

And didn't Bob Orsie write on that one as well? Yeah, I assume so because JJ directed it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so you'll enjoy that one. It's a good one. Andrea Saibati, I love Clark. Clark, what's your favorite horror movie?

I don't have one. I have like seven. What's the first thing in mind if you, if I'm like, okay, the first movie, when you hear that just pops into your head, whether it's your favorite or not, the first one you think of. I think The Exorcist is probably a safe bet. It's just a masterpiece. I think it's a masterclass in filmmaking in general.

But I also love West Craven's Scream. And I'm a big fan of James Juan's first Conjuring movie. I think that's just such a banger. Just he does so much, so innovative. People were, I was like my first horror movie I ever gave five out of five Shamos. It's a great movie. Great. John Ashford.

Clark, anymore soccer mom, Van, Van, commercials with unruly kids? What, what's that? What's that? hilarious. Well, you know, I was in a, I'm in a Chrysler commercial. Have I seen that before? Yeah, well, it's me with four children. I have, I play a mom with four kids. Yeah. And I drive a Chrysler Pacifica. Listen, John, I would love to do a sequel to that commercial. I would love a job. I would love a job. I need that. I need to find that commercial. I'll send it to you. It's not hard to find. It's called boy mom.

That was the name of the spot. Boy mom. Boy mom. Yeah. Chrysler. Let's see if I can find it. Oh, you can. It's on their YouTube.

But yeah, that was a fun. I'm coming up on one year ago that I shot that and it was really fun. And those kids were adorable. They were really funny. I love, I don't have kids. So I like kids. I find them funny. Is it?

Yep. That's it. Where to go? Come on. Don't tease me. No, not that one. Not 2021. You just had it.

It went away, right? That's not. Not that way. Not 2021. Wait, what is happening? This needs to stop. I'll find it. There it is.

I got it. I got it. Okay. You can see it? Yeah. Okay, there it is. All right. Perfect.

Let me bring that up. I want to see this now. Oh, Lord. Here we go. Florida Pacifica is the most awarded minivan. There she is. And it's all thanks to parents like you. Mother of four boys under 10.

Bye, Larry. You do all you can to keep these will-to-be-be-safe, especially this one. And that's why in here. There's Christa-Greter getting free shout-out today. We do all we can. The Chrysler-Pacifica plug-in hybrid. Amazing. The most awarded minivan.

Oh, oh. With the most minutes of you. I love that. Oh, it's amazing. That was great. It was very cute. When was that? When did you shoot that?

Last year. Actually, one year ago coming up, like last March, we shot it. And then it started. airing in April. Oh wow. I haven't seen it. Will those kids be easy to work with? They were really funny. I liked them a lot. They were they were a handful, but they were really funny. And I find them amusing because I don't have children. So I just think they're funny. I love that. That was great. Thanks for bringing that up, guys. Tachronin 9101. Do you think the future of non-event movies at the theater is through horror?

Horror films seem to be the only genre that profits from in theater releases. Yes, because of the formula and how they do it as a budget. Remember, it's a budget because they budget small and anytime you hear, oh, it made so much money in this horror film, check the budget every time you hear that and then check how much because I used Black Adam

as an example, right? Everyone goes to Black Adam, either lost money or, you know, barely broke even, but probably lost the money. It's movie made over $500 or $550 million, maybe close to $500 million, something like that. and even if I'm wrong and it made 440,

someone correct me and tell me, even, again, over $450 million, but it cost a ridiculous amount of money because of the rock stuff and everything else too, and it was they overspent on it, completely ridiculous. And so when you hear that number,

you're like, oh, it's a huge number. It's like, no, it's a loss, as opposed to there's some horror movies that make $200 million and it's a big win. So, you know, listen, I've said it for years. Jason Blum cracked the code. And it honestly wasn't a mystery how he did it.

I mean, that's the thing. Jason was, of course, he doesn't like losing money. But if you make four $2 million movies and one of them is The Purge and one of them's insidious, which is, you know, like in 2013, there were four of Lum House movies that came out. Rob Zombies, Lords of Salem, Dark Sky is an alien movie, Insidious Chapter 2 and The Purge. So, so like, we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. But Rod Zombies, Lord of Salem, which I love and dark skies, which is interesting and weird, did not, did not succeed at the box office. But he wasn't like, oh, well, I'll never make another. No, it's like, no, because these two cost two million dollars and didn't work.

And these two cost two million dollars and each made $100 million. Right. Yeah, the math. The math is easy. I don't get it. Andrew Oaks becoming a YouTube member. Thank you, Andrew. Stephanie Litts. Hey, Clark. Should Oscars nominate up to 10 directors? Yes. Ooh, that's a great question, Stephanie. I'm not opposed to that at all. I think that's actually a great idea,

because then you can be a little bit more inclusive and inclusive of people, inclusive of types of movies. Yeah, exactly. Like Christopher Nolan can get nominated for Batman the Batman movies because he should have you know what I'm saying like James nominee 10 movies you nominate 10 directors if we're going to nominate 10 movies you nominate 10 actors 10 actresses 10 directors of photography it should be 10 around the board not just 10 for one category should be 10 around the board and then you need 10 I'm telling you because because then you give people more of an opportunity and you make it

tougher on the voters and and it'll split the votes a lot more and then you'll get a lot more people going, okay, wait a minute, I got to vote for this. And it won't be just as condensed. Making more people, more great. Because then you, less of these snubs and stuff too. Nathan Stoke, if you could be in a slasher series, which one? Probably Nightmare in Australia, I don't want to hear the jokes. That's funny. Nightmare is a good one.

I would like to, I guess, if I will, like Clark as an actor, or would any of West Craven's work? Big Gil Studios is a fellow indie. What advice would you give to me who is now starting to get traction, but is not yet there, especially if their genre is superhero? I mean, as far as, indie,

as far as, um, YouTuber? Filmmaker? Maybe. Well, if you're a filmmaker, I would just say,

try to keep going, you know, especially if you're starting to get traction. But if you're a YouTube, well, I guess it's kind of the same if you're a YouTuber, right? Yeah. I mean,

yeah, if you're, if you're a YouTuber and your genre against superhero is like look it's a I always I don't envy people who are starting like this field today right like because you got to remember like when Mark and I started doing this back

eons ago we were I mean Chris Stockman and Jeremy Johns weren't even doing movie reviews when we started that shows you how long ago we started and it was like there was like four people that did it on on YouTube and now everybody does like literally everybody And so it's hard to do. It's tough to do, but just believe in yourself, believe in what you're talking about,

and be true to your personality and that that's what helps. Alex, what are your biggest nomination snubs of all time? Personally, mine are Tony Collette for hereditary and Jake, I was going to say Jillon Hall for Nightcrawler. So you took mine because that was, that to me is the biggest one of all. He should have won. He was great. He was great.

Tony Collette's great. you know, um, absolutely. Like, there are so many. Um, for me, well, I, he, Christian Bale and American Psycho is always my, uh, one of my first go-toes. Oh, that's a good one too. Wasn't even nominated.

It's an incredible performance. And the fact that he did it at like 26 years old, it's just remarkable. I mean, he, if we're just talking snubs, I'd put Denise up there for this year for Dune too. Sure. Um, okay. Next one is Mr. Nerd Fanatic.

Clark, are you more excited for Stu or Roman screen seven? Great question. Honestly, I don't understand. Well, I guess the fan theory is that, like, she'll be haunt. Sydney is kind of being haunted by the ghosts of ghost face past. I tell you what, with Scream 5, I for sure thought that the killer,

I won't say if you, in case you haven't seen it, but the killer who is upstairs at Stumacher's house, I could have sworn to you that Matthew Lillard was going to walk out that door and have been pulling those strings. I just thought it was like right there. And it wasn't, and they didn't do it. So I'm curious how he's going to fit back into the franchise for sure. Me too.

Crystal D.W. Fan, what's up, Crystal? No, Clark, come back. We love you. She'll be back. Nathan Drake, RIP to Michelle Traschenberg, way too young. We all agree. 100%. Gishcalli. The miracle of Kathleen Kennedy is that she's barely involved with all the great movies

she produced, but wholly responsible for her flops. I mean, that is, and that's the same thing, not just with her, right? That's like, I, like, every time you can't stand when you see things like, oh, well, Disney's responsible for that bad movie that Star Wars just did or Marvel just did. It's all Disney's fault, but you never hear, man, thank God for Disney. They did Endgame. You never, you never hear that. You never hear like, oh, man, Disney's the best.

They did Infinity War and they crushed with this one. You don't ever, you don't ever give them props. Like all the planet. Oh, man, I love those apes movies. Thank God for Disney picking up Fox. You never hear that. And you never will. And you shouldn't.

But you should, but else you got to also look at, you can't blame them depending on, sometimes you can. Sometimes you can, depending on the situation. Like we were talking about there, sometimes, when if you look at a scenario where there's a lot of meddling going on and there's things that are happening that a creator can't do their thing because of studio interference or other stuff, sure. But there's other times when it's like, no, it's just,

we just didn't work out. It's not one person's fault. It's a collective. And Yishgali knows, and I always love his insight when he's on my channel as well. He works in the industry for sure. But like I agree. I mean, that is the thing that I think we as fans kind of need to understand is like, all movies and all art is made by committee.

It is. And it's the same with directors too. Like, oh, wow, this director is wholly solely responsible for this entire movie. And it's like, that's kind of true, but also not. And, you know, so it's just, this is a collaboration. I think if there's one thing that I think I wish fans knew is that making movies and TV is a collaboration. The flip side to that, what I will say is that when you are the head of any company, or again, going back to my analogy of sports,

the manager of a team, you're going to be judged on your wins, you're going to be judged on your losses, right? And so if you have a whole bunch of wins, you know, you could a lot of times, and I don't disagree with Gishali that the wins, even though she had the wins,

people are more treating like Phil Jackson. Well, of course, she won. She had Michael Jordan Pippen. How could she not win? She still won. She made billions of dollars for the company. I don't like those movies either a lot of them.

I don't mind Force Awakens, but I don't like the new trilogy. I don't like the movies. I like Rogue One, but still they made, as far as business as I'm Bob Iger, yes, diminishing returns,

no doubt, they still made over a billion dollars, all of them. And so that's still a win for Disney overall. And you guys know my stance on it already. I don't think she's the right person for the job. But she already took some wins in there, and as if you're Bob Iger,

I understand, unless she made me money. I'm going to stick around for a little bit and see if she can make me more money on the next film. Brian McGovern. What's all the above an option for the Star Wars question? It should be. It was kind of a soup.

I think all of it is just a question as far as like what you would put, rank the highest, I guess. Mike Joyce, what's your favorite best picture winner? Oh, man. I know mine recently. Because like Mary Poppins won best picture, I think, and I love Mary Poppins. But recently the shape of water. that was one where I was just like wow this movie is winning and it is weird and genre and a love story it's just like I was just like wow over the moon that that won favorite I mean I got a lot of ones that I was glad that won back in the day because they don't those kind of movies don't win anymore but I would say um uh we'll return to the king I don't see that that winning ever again Braveheart, I love that movie when it came on when it won.

There's other movies that I think that are out there. Yeah, last couple, what one recently that I was like, it's nothing that I, but I think saving private Ryan should have won. I love, but saving private Ryan should have won that year. It should have won. Yeah, so I don't know. Okay. Fassia Brut.

You cover the UAPs. Can you cover the new JFK finals? I'll definitely probably talk about them on this show, to be honest, not on my separate channel, but like curious of what they find. they find anything in general, like if it actually does, if anything of merit comes in, what if it's just like, hey, we looked around and, you know, there's some evidence that were shredded. So yeah, we're just going to say that Lee Harvey Oswald did it. Let's wrap it up. Then it's like, you know, then it's doesn't really cover. But if it's something kind of crazy,

like I disagree with people who say that a, a, we wrote and I got into this debate on Monday, like, well, it was in the past. Let it go. It's like, yeah, but if there are certain things that happened in the government that were hidden and because they were hidden people got away with it and then we found that this happened because this happened and this happened and this happened and there was this corruption happened because they got away with this stuff and that can be exposed well yeah I think the problem is too though if you get an answer we've gotten to a place now where if you get an answer you don't like you're just going to keep digging right that's true And that's the problem.

That's like, that's the thing is they even release it all they want. But I don't know. Yeah. Well, let's see first of all what it is before anything ago. Nerds and Gage, we can remember four months. Thank you, NERD Engage. Favorite time for stand-up? Favorite NL, S&L cast?

Do you mean favorite time for me when I was doing stand-up? Or you mean favorite time during what era? Because I would say, as far as watching, for me, it was late 80s, like early 90s, because that's when all my inspirations were out there, whether it was George Carlin, Richard Pryor, Bill Hicks, like Robin Williams, that's my favorite era, because that's what inspired me. My favorite S&L Kess is the original,

and then followed by, I like the Will Ferrell era also, because Phil Hartman was still around at that side, Adam Sandler, Farley, all those guys too. So what about you, Clark? For SNL, I like the later side of the Will Ferrell era where we're getting into crossing over with Tina Faye and crossing over into Forte and like all of that. I think that stuff is just incredible. And in terms of stand-up, you know, I think it depends sometimes on like your age and where you're at in your life.

But, you know, in the 90s and in the early aughts, we had a real channel called Comedy Central. I know the channel still exists, but it's not the same. And the, the, the, just the specials that they cultivated were, I mean, I thought they were just really incredible. And so, yeah, I like that. I like that era for sure. It's funny because you're younger than I. But I was, when I was growing up, the, the Comedy Central was the area you're talking about. But before that, HBO had a program called One Night Stand, which was.

They used to rerun one night stand on Comedy Central. Yeah. Simon section, Ms. Wolf, regarding the David Lynch versus Terrence Malick is watching a Terrence Malick movie like literally watching Grassgrove, beautiful shot, then to cut someone crying. My favorite David Lynch movie is Wild at Heart. My favorite David Lynch movie is also Wild at Heart. But also, as you all probably know, I love The Wizard of Oz. And so it is a retelling of The Wizard of Oz with Nicholas Cage and Laura Dern. Yes, please.

Yeah. And as far as Malick goes, I'm not a big Terrence Malice. like fans. So you can kind of relate to what are you saying? I can definitely relate to that. Phoenix Roy. I never hear anyone talk about Dolby. What are your thoughts on Dolby versus IMAX? I like Dolby also. I mean, I'm a big sound person in general. Right. Like I was just like so that's very important. Like even when I'm watching these reactions lately, I'm picking because of the headphones. Yeah. Picking up things that I picked up beforehand and I am watching it on a big screen. So like it really is

enhancing the experiment experience. So I, I enjoy Dolby very much. I like. I like. IMAX, probably a little, the visual of it, but I love Dolby. Yeah, same. I mean, I like the, I like any sort of enhanced viewing experience, but for me, IMAX is just the full package. Yeah. Nerds Engage, you think of Floreville of aliens among us with clear, undeniable proof would send the world into mass hysteria that we wouldn't come back from. Well, it depends on, you know, again, what is, what kind of information would be put out there?

If it's just like a full on dump, like it depends on the kind of information that's put out there and how it's presented. Or you can say what would be a mess hysteria and what would. Do you have an opinion on that, Clark or not really? I still just don't think that. I think we're at a place where it's a lot of like confirmation bias. So like, meaning if you believed that aliens were there and you knew the whole time and whatever, then great, you believe it. If you don't want to believe that aliens exist, then you will find a reason to. discredit that information. So it's like, I, you know, I don't, I don't travel in the, in the

UFO and all of that world, but I do, I'm a big last podcast on the left fan. And Henry Zabrowski is, of course, obsessed with aliens and, and, and other life forms. And so I've heard him talk over the years, and I tend to agree with a lot of his analysis, which is like people just wouldn't, they would kind of shrug and wouldn't believe it, I think. Unless it's an undeniable proof. But yes, I agree with that as well. You've got it. That's a lot.

I mean, look, there are people in front of Congress not six months ago saying that we have a reverse engineering program that and talking about alien bodies that were recovered. And everyone's, no one's, no one's even talking about it. Yeah. That's what I mean. It's like, it's like, yeah, they're crank or oh, this or that, you know. It's crazy. NERD engage.

Thank you, Ners. You gave five memberships. Thank you. The Raven Effect. Can we get Clark Wolf to host the Oscars, please? She wouldn't want it. It's a thankless job. She'd bring a lot of class and style to the event.

Would you want to host the Oscars? Listen, Christian, I need a job. Fair enough. I would love nothing more that to host the Oscars currently. I understand. No, I mean, but it is a thankless job. I think Conan's going to be great, though. And Kimmel, I thought, did a great job.

I like to show his last couple years. Yeah, I like him to it. Nathan Drake, Christian. I like a million ways to die in the West. I don't. Dracula dead and loving it and just friends. Am I crazy? No, I think a lot of people like those movies.

I do not like the first one you mentioned. I don't care about the second one as much. I don't want to know how many times I've seen it. And I am one of the few people who despises just friends. I despise that movie. Do you love that movie like everybody else does? Yeah. Yeah, everybody else loves that movie.

That's one movie when people ask. I don't like that movie. I think he's a dickhead in that movie from start to finish. Ana Ferris is just so good though. She's good. She's good in it. Joe Frisbee, pizza or pasta? Pasta salad breaks the time for me.

Sounds pretty good. It depends on the place. It depends on the place. I mean, I love pizza, but it depends on the place. It's a hard question. I love both. Don't make the shoes. That's a hard one.

But pizza is usually easy to guess. easier to me no it's not easier to get allergic to gluten so I have a very listen I have a I have a I have a master I can make a master class and gluten-free Italian food I love that page Audrey hey guys sorry I missed a few shows on a vacation don't you dare apologize take your vacation Clark who is the next West Craven who is the new West Craven wow that is such a great question and I used to have an answer to it but I think movies have just changed so much and um the thing about what was that he had a lot of output. That's the, you know, like they're not all bangers, but he

revolutionized the genre in the 70s with last house, last house on the left, in the 80s of the nightmare on Elm Street, in the 90s was scream and then was able to make a post-9-11 thriller with red eye in 2000 in the aughts. And so I just, I don't know who's taking and innovating, you know, like I, because, because again, output. Like, what? made a ton of movies so such a good question I don't I don't have an answer page but I'll keep thinking on it for sure all right let's see so next one here Simon section okay regarding wild at heart the beginning scene sobered me up not because Nick Cage was beating up on a personal color it was because he was a lot smaller than Nick it was almost comical

but he did have a knife and I'm not Jane Child 90s hit one or two you know I don't don't think I've ever seen that movie. It's my favorite David Lynch movie. Now, that's, I'm not, I don't, not like a disciple of David Lynch. So I, you know, I don't have it like fully memorized. But it is, many years ago, the Egyptian showed it back to back with Wizard of Oz. And it was really fun to see, we watched Wild at Heart first and then watched the Wizard of Oz. And I was like, oh, yeah, it really is.

Like, he just did his retelling of it. And Nick Cage is great. And Laura Dern is great. And I think Willem Defoe, Young Willem. him to foe is in that one too so playing a crazy character so yeah good stuff so let's see so jumping back in here armada says support for all you guys thank you to which he said did he says did my super chats get buried i can't watch live but skim to the live queue and donated before the show started my bad if they're already read i'm not sure if they were or not but um boy i want to make sure

let me go down here and make sure that i have everybody's and that nothing up buried because I know for some reason oh so we did get I don't know why they didn't do that because there's a bunch of crystal put in also and there was support that crystal put in there but for some reason I don't know why it just it's been super just been or stream labs or stream yard has been really bizarre lately it's been people keep writing the Christian miss I miss anything I miss anything I missed absolutely nothing from stream yard but because it's showing me it's showing me nothing but I have to go through my actual superchats in the analytics in order to find all these because it's not on stream here because it's not on streamers.

So no, I didn't miss a damn thing. It's all here. I can't find it now. Oh, wait, now. And the problem is that now that I'm looking for trying to find the new show, bear with me, guys. Well, chat, I see you in chat saying that James Wan is a nice air to kind of like the new West Craven. And that, I think, is actually very, very astute with his producing and with the movies that he's directed, the franchises he's created, saw insidious, the conjuring.

I mean, yeah, I think, I think that's a really good comp. Let's see if I can do this here. Let's see. So I'm going to bring this up. All right. Let's do that. Okay. So I will bring up.

up these questions here and read them out. Okay, so Amada says support and then, no, it's the same one. It just get, it's freaking buried again. Ah, just driving me crazy. It's got to be a better way to do this. It's got to be a better way to do this. Let's bring it down. Just give me a second, guys.

I try to find this because it's, you know. It was a different, I see you in chat talking about, one being better than West Craven and I do think that I do think that it's just a different filmmaking environment now in the past you know if a genre filmmaker made a movie

that changed the industry they were still forced to stay in the horror world like all those guys desperately wanted to break out in the 70s and the 80s of horror whereas now studios are like oh your movie made a hundred million dollars great direct Aquaman, direct Shazam, direct, you know, and so on.

So it's just a little bit different to your point in chat. Yeah. So I think I got a lock on this thing. Give me a say, thank you, Clark, for. Of course. I see you in chat. And now I'm trying to see. Okay, let's try this real quick.

Because of course, I got out of here soon too. So, all right. Well, Seattle, you know, you say West Gravids, Aquaman could have something special which yes ha ha but i mean he tried to do swamp thing um and it's not good uh but i mean truly like that was him trying to cross over do something a little different a little bigger but also you know um but also uh you know and and it's just again different world different investment but that's a dc property yeah i can't i just i can't this is not working um this is a real pain in the ass to be honest

Let's try it again. Let's see. Okay, we're going to work. I'll just have to do it this way. And we'll do it this way. Okay. So, again, we did the support for all you guys, bring this down here, and we're right at,

that's 22. First one, where is it? 26, 26. So now this is what the show is going to be because stream, the stream yard sucks. All right. We'll start with Armada, who says,

Heretic coming to Max on March 7th, film reaction. You know, I've never seen that movie, Clark. It's fun. I like it a lot. Fun? I've never heard anybody saying it was fun.

It's a little, it's kind of wicked, you know? Like, remember how it was nominated for best comedy, or Hugh Grant was nominated for best after? I read it. You're heretic. I'm thinking hereditary.

Oh, no. Hereditary is not fun. All right. That's what I was there. Okay. No, no, no, no. All right. That makes a lot more sense.

All right. And then we see also what the hell is Puck News. Why don't they say support for Roxy? That's an old one. I'm going to remind. Also, who the hell is Puck News? Puck News came out of nowhere. Yeah, a lot of, seen that.

A lot of stuff. Yeah. Go, pal, in a meeting all day. Here's some support. Thank you. Nathan Drake. Christian, what about? Leslie Headland taking over.

Stop that. Crashing Coyote, will you cover the Wonder Woman disaster news? Was there like a game or something, right? Oh, I haven't even seen it. It's a game that got canceled or something. I don't know enough about it to cover it. But Able John, Century creator, Paul Jenkins, has revealed that he's currently under a contract with Marvel Studios to write a Century film.

It will only happen if and when the studio decides to make it, if Marvel uses him well, like in the comics. Well, that isn't, and I think the sentries in the Thunderbolt, so I'm not, I'm not sure if that's going to work. Met Bull. Kathleen Kennedy will tell us when she's good and ready. Yeah, I guess so. Ewok, thoughts on the Havoc trailer from the director of the raid films starring Tom Hardy, Timothy Oliphant, and Forrest Whitaker.

Looks super intense. Did you see that trailer? No, I haven't seen that trailer yet. What is, no, I'm going to check that out. I love that cast and I love that director. So that would be great to see for sure. That's great. Okay.

Day Napper. Brett will be on next week is a better bit than we ran out of time for Matt Damon on Jimmy Kim. He was supposed to be on this week. But he told me yesterday he had to say schedule things. So I thought he was going to be, I was going to surprise Clark. Okay.

And then Matt's finished. Then we got all these. Okay. So that those, that now we're caught up. But I don't know. I don't know why it does that. It's so stupid.

I don't know. It's like some reasons. And I think maybe because I think that I had Luke help me with the stream the streamer before he went to refresh it so he might have lost some of it i don't know how it works it's it's a really use this program too well i haven't qualified yet with my hours and so i'm close but um yeah so i haven't quite gotten there yet patty boy can clark please repost sending the wolf apps they're the best i'd sign up for patreon just for that also can we give lisa frankenstein more love is that any good you know lisa frankenstein's a really fun like

gateway teen horror movie. I think for me, the reason I've sort of bumped up against it is because I could see that that was clearly an R-rated Diablo Cody script that got turned into a PG-13 movie. So I would have loved to have seen with the real, like, again, I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, but like I could feel it being pulled in a couple of directions. That said, with sending the Wolf episodes, I am considering, yes, I am considering re-releasing them. I'm also trying to like reboot and figure, you know, that's what my live stream is, is sending the wolf in a new form. And I'm toying with how we do it. So like, you know, I've been doing my interviews live, but I think maybe I might move to a pre-recorded, you know, podcast method and then do a live stream on Patreon. I'm just not entirely sure yet. But the answer is I am considering reposting the sending the wolf episodes. I just need to listen to them again because, you know, I haven't heard them in in five years. Yes, that's, and go, yeah, I think I did one of those. So what did we, what did we do?

Do we do Rocky? I don't know if we did Rocky. I don't think we did. Maybe you're right. I mean, Ellis, I remember Alice, did we, Raiders, maybe? Maybe. Maybe we did Raiders.

Maybe that's what it was. Moghera, where does an editor send samples to get a gig? I mean, I think it just depends on, on the kind of gig you're looking for. I don't really, I don't have an answer for that. Do you, Clark? No, I think it's oftentimes, though, if you can, you can go through referrals or, you know, job postings

and things like that, that's the way to go. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Yeah, I figured that. Thank you guys for sticking with me. I don't know why streamyards does that. It's really stupid. Harrison, Martin, what if Kathleen Kennedy is replacing Bob Eiger? Nah, she said she's, they said she's probably going to retire, so that wouldn't happen.

Sean McCabe, great time last night watching the Spider-Man reaction, found a moment of inspiration. I'm going to take my daughter on Saturday, Forrest Hill. It's going to watch Cap 4, get ice cream and buy some comics. is awesome. That's great. You know, I've never been. Never been. So that's enjoy Kevin 4. I just talking to my buddy today who said, what did you think of it? I said, it was fine. And he was just a casual fan. He's like, yeah, it was fine. I didn't enjoy it.

So enjoy it, man. Have a good time with your, with your daughter and let me know what you think. Brett Flint. Speaking of Daredevil, how do you feel with the character of the Swordsman from Hawkeye appearing in Daredevil now? As goofy as he was, will he fit in the show, do you think he'll be more serious? Well, the benefit for me is I don't remember the swordsman. I didn't watch Hawkeye. Yeah, I saw Hawkeye, but I saw it so long ago, I don't remember. Yeah, I wonder if, I wonder, but, you know, they're going to, look, a Kingpin was goofy in Hawkeye.

I think they're going to change it dramatically. All right, Clark, Nathan Drake says, underrated carpenter. I love Prince of Darkness. I'm going to throw you a little curveball and say, I love his movie Elvis with Kurt Russell playing Elvis. It was a TV movie, and it was the first time they worked together, and I think it's, I remember it being really good. And also he did a little thriller called Someone's Watching Me, I think, is what it was called. And I think it was also a TV movie, but you can find it.

And I remember it being really good and really fun. So I like some of those earlier movies more than like the 90s movies that people are sort of revisiting. Well, that's got you're hosting the wolf. Shit, Schmo? That's all you have. Yeah. I love that for Mark on. Al Wrench, one of the funniest moments ever is Clark's Dark Universe Rent when she was on Clyder with Riley and Napsock, effing guy for Henlock Grove.

What was that? What happened? Yeah. Again, yeah, things that. What happened? I just, there was, there was casting news at the time about who was going to play the bride of Frankenstein. And I, and I kind of, and I think also, oh, and you know what it was? I think they were canceling David Kep's bride of Franken, or no, excuse me, Bill Condon's bride of Frankenstein with a script from David Kep.

And, yeah, and so we were just talking about casting and like they shut it down and like, I don't know. And I went off on a rant. I did go off on a, oh, you know, no, and you know what it was? It was Angelina Jolie. That was like, and I was like, that is wrong. That is not. I just, I just didn't care for that choice.

It didn't happen though. So good news, everyone. It's fine. And also, to be clear, with the Bill Scarsguard of it all, I was, I was very clear that what I was saying is not everybody, not all their monsters have to be hot. And I was saying that Bill played, I think what I was saying was he, his character in Hemlock Grove, it was not disparaging Bill Scarsgard. And, and I want to be like, I want to be very clear.

about that. Again, just, I don't know. Anyway, what's next? Stephanie Litz. What non-film technologies were used to direct your films? What we used to coordinate people, write edits, scripts, shot schedules, budgets, and all that. Yeah, I use final draft to write scripts. I did not put together, you know, I think my producer and I just used for like shot schedules. We just used like, you know, Google, whatever, docs or what I can't remember. And then he, my producer at the time is a, he, he has a script. What's it called? It's like an actual industry technology, like, so we were able to just use that. Uh, Roman. So Roman. Hey, yo, this one's for the lovely car. Biggest Oscar snub for me, a probably Hugh Jackman for prisoners and Logan. That's a good

one too. And of course, anything to need. Yeah, anytime he gets, he gets snubbed all the time. Path 090. Thank you, Roman, by the way. I was trying to give benefits on the doubt that 71, is a good age to retire and finally relax. Critics be damned and not even to stand for the Mandalorian movie to launch. I guess I was too naive. We don't know yet. We got to let it see what happens if she announces it at celebration that before people can say, because I think it makes sense for it.

If I was going to retire it, say, you know what? I'm going to let Fabro put a summer movie out, make another billion dollars, and then I'm going to retire because I go out on a win. Roman, this one's for Christian. And yes, the English are seeing me as I do this. favorite best picture winner is return to the king followed by unforgiven all two good ones okay so we're almost at the end here guys thank you for everybody for sticking with us and thank you for Clark for taking the reins while I was looking for those questions I appreciate that

and Armada says did my super jess could bury I think you got it now can't watch but live a skim to the Q&A's donated before the show started my bat at their area ready read yeah I went back and read them armada support thank you so much um okay we're winding down in Clark, we are currently at 68. Pretty damn good. Brian McGovern, my favorite Lynch movie is the straight story, so hard to find it to watch in Australia. I don't think you've ever seen that.

Have you, Clark? I have not seen that one, actually. I know the answer to this is no, but I'll let Clark answer it. Is Clark Canadian? I thought I heard her say, a boot, or am I hearing things? You're hearing things. I'm from Atlanta. That I knew.

Dancing Dog 60. West Craven did dodge a bullet, though. He was in the running to direct Superman Ford. Was he really? Yes, he was. Because deadly friend tanked, Christmas Reeve didn't hire West. Really?

Yeah, that's true. And because, you know, Wes also, he wanted, like I said, he really historically wanted to break out of horror. He wanted to do different things. And he was a college professor before he was a filmmaker. He was very intellectual. And Christopher Reeve really wanted to make an anti-war

Superman movie. And that's what Superman for was supposed to be. And yeah, so it just, it was the legacy of Superman for is really interesting. I actually don't think it's the worst of the four Reeve movies, but your buddy Gish Ghali, Clark's revising history. She said Scarsad fell out of the algae tree and had every branch on the way down. That's right. That's right. Well, that's it. We did it, Clark. We made it. Thank you, everybody, for being here today. Clark, let him know again where they can find you and give that channel a plug. Let them know again.

Yeah, you can find me on YouTube. YouTube.com slash official Clark Wolf. And you can find me on Patreon. Patreon.com slash Clark Wolf. We can join for free. You have all different tiers of memberships, including free. And yeah, Instagram at Clark, Clark with any, Wolf with any. Thank you all so much for having me. Now, this last one, Simon Section. Any info on your indie film project, where can I find the info? So with Feensgiving that I was co-creating with Sam Levine, we suspended our fundraising campaign during the LA fires. It just did not feel like a appropriate for us to be fundraising. So we're trying to privately fundraise right now. So, yeah, that's the latest. We're trying. So if anybody has like $40,000 or $50,000 laying

around, we would love to make a Thanksgiving slashing movie. All right. And then the Cali kid as an actor, performer artist, what are your thoughts on Robert De Niro versus Al Pacino or Emma Stone versus Streep? Puccino and Stone are my picks. I love De Niro, but Pacino is my guy. and Emma Stone versus Merrill Streep. That doesn't count. Yeah, I don't know about that one, but I do love Al Pacino. His early work is just, I think it's unparalleled. And Sean says they'll share some photos on IG.

Thank you. Oh, wow. Man, Tetran, thank you so much. Oscar predictions. Again, if I'm going to go to the big ones, best picture, I think the Brutalus will get it, although I won't be surprised if Anora gets it. I think Adrian Brody will win best actor.

Kieran Culkin will get supporting. Demi Moore will get best actress. Supporting will go to Zoe Seldana. What am I missing? And director will, Sean Baker is my guess. I think you're right. I think it'll be Sean Baker.

So do you agree with those picks? I do, actually. Those are mine as well. Okay. So there you go. That's it. Guys, thank you for the generosity. Thank you for Ms. Clark.

We'll thank you to all of you guys for being here. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. Thank you so much for being here. We're going to have another few reactions. We've got our Deadpool, Deadpool, Daredevil reactions coming out soon. So that and more for the great Clark Wolf. I'm me. You're you.

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