The Kristian Harloff Show - FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS (2025) | NON-SPOILER DISCUSSION!

Episode Date: July 25, 2025

🔥 Kristian Harloff and Winston Marshall are back with a non-spoiler discussion of FANTASTIC FOUR (2025) – aka Fantastic Four: First Steps! What did early audiences think? We're breaking down the Rotten Tomatoes Popcornmeter audience score, industry reactions, and how this movie is shaping up to be one of Marvel's biggest swings in years. SPONSORS: INDACLOUD: If you're 21 or older, now's your chance to float above the stress—because IndaCloud is giving all new customers 25% off their first order plus free shipping. Just use code KRISTIAN or click the link in the show notes to claim your discount. That's https://indacloud.co/ CASHAPP: Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/76rlxe00 #CashAppPod. As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. 💥 Topics for this show include: THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS' Audience Score Has Been Revealed By Rotten Tomatoes' Popcornmeter MAN OF STEEL Writer David S. Goyer Shares His Candid Thoughts On James Gunn's SUPERMAN Movie THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Looks Set To Beat SUPERMAN With Best Thursday Preview Box Office Of 2025 "You Can Cut Out [Him] F***ing Fish": SUPERMAN Director James Gunn Reveals Aquaman's Status In The DCU THUNDERBOLTS* Director Breaks Silence On Movie's Box Office Struggles; Responds To Olga Kurylenko's Comments Whether you're hyped for Marvel's first family or curious about the ongoing DCU shakeups, this is the show for you. Tune in for thoughtful analysis, laughs, and bold takes from Kristian and Winston!

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It's a non-spoiler review for the Fantastic Four. We're going to be having a, well, discussion. I guess what we will be had between myself and Winston A. Marshall. Coy Jean-Joe, bumping shoulders with all the cosplayers at Comic-Con. Back next week. Not a lot of news at a Comic-Con. I thought this would be a big show talking about Comic-Con news. Not jack shit, as the kids say in certain parts of France.

I think that's what they say. If not, they should. We'll discuss that. We'll discuss it exceeding expectations thus far at the box office. Tons of stuff happening in the world of comic book movie news. There's some fantastic forest stuff, some peacemaker stuff, some talk about thunderbolts, a lot more. And we'll discuss it all here today with myself and Winston A. Marshall. So let's get into it, everybody.

It's the Christian Arler show, capes and cow style. You ready? Me too. Let's do it. That's the capes promo. That's not it. Where the hell did it go? What did you do with this?

What happened? It's gone now? I guess we don't have it anymore. So that's great. Here's this. Somehow the capes and cow's opening got deleted. Great. Joining me on the show is Winston A. Marshall.

Winston, how's it going? Come on get rid of it. It's gone. That's wild. Yeah, all I have is the, I have the Cape's promo for the, um, the comic book, but not for the actual intro itself. I don't know what the hell happens. I got to find crazy, bro. It must have been coy. He must have taken it within a comedy.

Maybe. Maybe so. Not a damn thing happening at Comic Con. That's what I was saying. It's weird because I've had people text me asking if I'm going to be down there and everything else. Then I was like, unfortunately, I got stuff going on. I can't, I can't make it. And, right.

then I was like, are y'all doing anything? Are y'all just all hanging out and having drinks? Like most of the people are sending photos of them hanging out together. And I'm like, is anything happening? No, it seems like it's actually the kind of Comic-Con that I would actually love to go to because nothing's going on. I mean, it would be if it's just a vacation at this point. It's probably the best comic-conns to go to.

It's that, for news stuff, you're just not going to get anything. It's probably a really fun time. I'm sure, Count, yeah, Count of a time of his life right now. probably is he down there yeah calinowski's always there okay yeah yeah yes so um and then you roca didn't go this year i don't think step roxy i don't think they went um i know i've still never been ever which is crazy i'm surprised i know this year you don't know well this is probably another year you want to go i mean because you want to go for you you want to go with some you can go to the hall age stuff and there's some big things going on so i i would assume maybe next year is a good year for you to go because

Marvel will probably come back, especially right before Doomsday. Yeah, they'll probably preview a trailer and they'll probably have some stuff to promote it. So I would assume next year's probably a good time to go if you're able to go for sure. That's my thought process. Yeah, it's funny. I went like 10 years in a row. And then I said, I'm probably never going to, San Diego never going to go again. But New York, I'll probably go.

I'm going to try to go this year. I tried to go last year. I couldn't do it. I'm going to probably go this year because I've never been to that one before. So we shall see. Fantastic Four, man. It is out the first steps. It is done in the theater.

And the audience score has been revealed by Rotten Tomatoes Popcorn Meader. By now, we're sure you know that critics have been praising the Fantastic Four First Steps. One of the fans in the regular moviegoer saying about Marvel Studios take on his first family. Find out here. Great. Critics had their say on the. Fantastic Four First Steps earlier this week. And following an early international release and Thursday previews,

fans and moviegoers are finally weighing in on the Marvel Studios reboot. Over 2,500 verified ratings on Rotten Tomatoes popcorn meter, The Fantastic Four First Steps has an excellent, 93% higher than Superman by one point. Same as Thunderbolts and quite a bit above Captain America, Brave New World. The movie's tomato meter score currently sits at 88% based on 200,000. based on 235 reviews, while Thunderbolts received a similar level of acclaim, it also failed to crack 400 million at the worldwide box office. Fortunately, it appears to be far more interest in the Fantastic Four First Steps. Marvel Studios has successfully marketed as an invent movie and as a largely standalone tale set on a separate earth.

It's likely to be a far more welcoming prospect than a feature led by streaming characters. Marvel Studios president, Kevin Feigy, said he didn't want this reboot to feel like it required homeowner. work. Marvel's first family starred in four movies, one of which wasn't even released, wasn't ever released before this ever, but it's filmmaker Matt Shackman, who has finally done right by the beloved superhero team for the long-weighted MCU debut. So he said, comic book movies, uh, the Fantastic Four First Steps, they concluded the Fantastic Four is an exceptional introduction to the MCU's first family and thanks to a Jack Kirby-infused feel. That's unlike anything we've seen before, it proves to be a quintessential superhero movie with

Marvel Studios at its brilliant best. So this is, again, audience, say the Fantastic Force, verified 92%. So if you're Marvel right now, Winston, you're happy with what the critics in the audience is saying. But, you know, this was similar to Thunderbolts as far as we're not talking about as far as reviews go. Are you in that 92%?

Yeah. I really, really enjoyed this movie, man. I would say, first of all, this is. is probably the most excited I've been for the superhero genre now that we've gotten the last three movies in Thunderbolt Superman and Fantastic Four because they were all good movies. The real question is it's not just a matter of the content being good, is that is it drawing enough people back to do it? Because obviously, you need the content to be good. So people will watch it, but you need money to come in. So I'm really hoping that this movie hits all of its markers, if not exceeds them.

Because then that just puts us back in a good place for this content to continue. But I thought that the movie was really well done. I thought that the main focus of the movie really focusing on family, which would make sense. It's the family of comics. I thought that it was incredibly well cast. I thought that everybody that they put in it was the exact person to do that But I think for me

I'm curious about you I think my MVP Of the film would have to be Vanessa Kirby I feel like she brought The most sauce to it I think so I mean I think I would I would Wouldn't argue with the Rhee Richards side too because Fair

Pedro Vascall was kind of pushing a big boulder up a hill Because it's like oh Pedro Viscall's in this He's guys in everything and he's just gonna do the same thing You know he's what what is he actually going to capture Reed? And I thought he did. I thought he did a great job in really understanding who Reed was and this battle of this intelligence that this guy has and the things that he's consistently doing.

And it's almost like, you know, on the spectrum type stuff that they're doing with him. And he's. That was a good choice. Yeah, it was a great choice. And I think it really played well with what he's balancing in the, I mean, this is in the trailer. So it's a spoiler. but the pregnancy and dealing ultimately with family and what comes first. And I thought he did a great job with that.

But Vanessa Kirby is an excellent argument. And it's hard to argue against it because of showing what Sue Storm is going to be. And I like that they have this equal kind of balance that you can make the argument of either one of them. It's not like, oh, they're just making it a Sue Storm movie. I don't think that's the case. I think it's a poor movie with her having a lot of the juice emotionally and him having to also balance that. And I think that what both Johnny and Thing do together, they all have stuff to do. I like Ben the most.

I think he had the least to do out of the four of them. But I like, but I like him the best because I think Evan Moss Bachar is, we all said this. We were hoping he was going to get cast and he did. He did. And the depiction I thought was fantastic. I thought there was a little bit of a like without getting into much. I thought it was a little bit of a waste for Natasha. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, but you're Leon, but you know the thing is before you even said that because I agree. Roxy made a great point. She seems to be set up for future installments. Clearly, but even if you're going to do that, like, for example, Rody got put set up for future installments in the first Iron Man, but was still integral to what was going on with Tony. I could have gone without Natasha's character and nothing would have changed.

That's true. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, like, it felt like it was just to give Ben a storyline. line and people when people see it because obviously we're doing non-spoiler right now you'll kind of see what I'm talking about I don't think she did a bad job and I like their chemistry I just that was that was the only part that I could think of in the movie that I was like I like seeing her on screen but why she here you know what I'm saying like every other character that

was there I was like this is this makes sense and the answer yeah the answer to be they're trying to give him a little bit more to do and have a side story but this is this is a reminder to the chat in general. When we're talking, A, no spoilers here. B, if you didn't like the movie, start with this. Guys, I feel like to me this is a bad movie. Don't tell people what it is because it's not. In the same way, guys, this is a good movie.

If someone doesn't like it, they don't like it. This is what we encourage in this community. You have conversations with people. You don't like it. Here's why I don't like it. and you put your thoughts out there, and those will be acknowledged and respect. Don't say definitively what is because it's subjective. So don't do that.

That's not encouraged here. And this is bad. No, I think this is bad. I believe this is bad. This is why I didn't like this. That's how you do. This is what we're trying to encourage here with just conversation. Please.

Absolutely. I mean, especially from the standpoint of just like, not just here. I've said this like almost every single time we do. movie review because the conversation will start to tilt that way. Just some life advice. If you want people to actually listen and hear you out, coming at it from a place of like trying to engage in conversation versus coming from a place where you're trying to be the definitive answer.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That you're going to, people will listen to you more. If you come up and you're like, yo, hey man, everything about you is trash. I'm going to be like, yo, get on my face. But if you're just like, hey man, you might consider X, Y, and Z because of ABC. That is different. It is. And I'm seeing that now in the chat. And I think that that's, that's totally great. Even the people who were initially saying it are clarifying. And that's,

and that's how it goes. But we, you and I, Fully, we're part of that 92, 93% of why this is a really solid movie. And this is from both of us who were not major kind of fantastic four fans at all. Not a fan. I normally. I know. So, yeah, they never really spoke to me. You know, Like the first two trailers, I thought we're okay. And the last one I enjoy it. I was locked into this movie, dude, from the second this thing started. I was locked in. And they set it up really nicely.

I'm going to have my full spoiler review out a little later today so people can see more diving deep into what actually happens in it. But I thought that for me, the first act is super strong. I can see where people are going to make an argument about the second act kind of slowing down a little bit. but I kind of like the balance of that. And then the third act just takes off and it's just very strong. I thought Galactus was great. I thought he was terrifying, to be honest.

And because of the voice, the actor, is just so good. And I like where they're going. It is the first time I'm kind of really set up to care about, well, since phases one through three, about what's happening in the MCU moving forward. Do you agree? Yeah. Yeah.

I think that this is a, this was like a very, solid setup and I think what I appreciate about the last couple of films, even I will give Brave New World, even though I've told you that I really am not the biggest fan of that movie, we clearly have direction right now. And everything that's come out, movies and TV, so like Ironheart even, you are making it very clear that it's going to be pretty heavy dealing with magic and it's going to be pretty heavy, this idea of universes colliding. And so, like, you know, I put out a video of my theory of what I thought was going to happen in the film. Y'all should go and check that out.

It was a fun thing that I put together. One of the things that I brought up multiple times, which has been said multiple times in Loki and multiverse a method, the one through line has been this idea of incursions and what that is. And so it's really nice to see that that is continuously being. brought up in every single project right now this idea of worlds colliding so that when we get to doomsday and we get to secret wars which we know is that storyline is about all these different universes kind of coming together we're getting closer and closer to that and I think it's being put in the right

direction so I'm glad that it feels like we've got a North Star again yeah and I really dug how they and as I've been saying over the last week Kevin Feigy's been saying stuff where he's like come on me and let's let's not lie because there's a couple of times he said a few things in that article where you're like stop it like that's clearly you're full of crap um what he's not full of crap about was saying you don't have to be caught up on anything you don't have to do homework to watch fantastic or it was so refreshing dude we're caught up on all of it and it was still refreshing bro bro from opening sequence and on top of that this is where i actually give fantastic

for a little bit more credit than superman and this is not a knock on gun or dc or anything like that we started with this movie similar to superman in the middle of the middle of the of stuff going on, but this movie found a way to catch you up immediately. Like, you start in the middle and then they go, let's give you a little, like, it almost felt in a way sort of like a modern version of that 80s, like, I bet you wonder how I got here. And they do the little flashback, but it's done in such a classy way and it's done in such a way that fits to the story. I'm like, bet I know exactly who they are.

I know exactly what's going on. I know how they roll. I know why people love them. great and then you keep the push it and i also thought like the music was so well done by michael jekino who just continues to nail it um oh man people just don't get it you just don't get it you just don't get it get what nothing it just like it's like forget it so um when it comes when it comes to um overall the um music the score the tone of what they were going for that to me really well worked. And I thought that that played

in a way that the big MCU movies really haven't done recently. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I fully agree with that. Which in the same breath, though, one of the things that I think I really loved about the movie is there were moments where I realized,

man, we're not, like, things are happening, but there's like not a crazy amount of just like, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, like action stuff. It's, it is a very... By the end, by the end, obviously. Oh, absolutely. But they earn it. But there's action throughout, but you know what I'm saying?

Like part of what is special about the Fantastic Four compared to a lot of the other people, but you would want to see this with characters anyway. So much of it is about them using their mind. I mean, obviously, Reed being the smartest at all of them, but all four of them are very smart. I mean, again, Ben was an astronaut pilot already, which means he has to be intelligent. Sue has her own PhDs and does it. It's a scientist in her own. And then same with Johnny where he is,

and I really love that they gave Johnny his own kind of like, not just blow things up arc. I thought that that was also really cool to see them do that. I won't tell you guys what specifically. And it does. Like I said, it ran out of purpose. Did you say to be polite about Fantastic Four?

Be polite. One of us, I mean, about Chat thing, someone said, why do it to be polite about Fantastic Fort? No, nobody said be polite.

The only thing we said was if you're going to give an argument about why you didn't like the movie, do something, see something other than it was trash. No, that's fine. If you think it, if you think it sucks shit, you can say it, I think it was trash. I think it was garbage. I think it was absolute. I think it was garbage. I think it was total crap.

I think. That's what you're starting with is, I think, not definitively. It was like people said, like, oh, it was a guy who said a garbage back of the day. Yeah, I think this is garbage. You can say, I think. So who said be polite? Cut it out. Just have the conversation.

I don't know what you guys are doing today. Only thing I said was you're going to catch more flies with honey than vinegar. If you want to actually engage with people and not have them think you're a clown, then don't come in with with hot fire. Like like. Just use your brain like the Fantastic Four. I just do it. I just like the world building of this.

I do too. I really liked the world building and how it was set up. That to me was worth it. I sat in that theater going, wow, I'm just surprised how into this I am. And so I'm glad. And I will also say, it's funny because people were going back and forth because I had said, I still don't know the answer to this. I have to rewatch Thunderbolts because the prediction I was making throughout was that

I thought, I still thought Fantastic Four would do the best out of the three of them. money-wise, I still feel that way. I think, the other thing I said was, I think, though, quality-wise, that I was going to enjoy Thunderbolts the most. I have to re-watch Thunderbolts, and I probably have to re-watch Fantastic Four, because it's between the two of them, I think, because Superman, I enjoyed. I think that these are, I think that they're both story-wise and stuff, from my personal taste, I like these two better.

I just think that they're, it's, Superman's goofy. at times, but that it was purposely goofy. And I, you know, if you watch my taste, you know that I don't necessarily love the goofy stuff all the time. But all three solid movies, and I just was so shocked to how much I enjoyed this one. No, I was too. I had, there was enough writing on the wall that I was going to enjoy it. I didn't think I was going to enjoy it as much as I did. Um, off rip having seen the three movies once, I think I'd rank at Thunderbolts,

Fantastic for Superman, but I agree with you. I would like to see them all again. Yeah. And reassess to just make sure I still feel that way. Right. Um, right now, because it's, because it's recency bias. Right now. Hold on a second.

Watch this. We'll do it. I'll do it on the air, professional as possible. Hello. Hi. Thanks. Thanks. I think you're interming the DoorDash.

Okay, perfect. I'm coming. I'm coming back. All right. Winston, take over. Oh, that's funny. Christian has a delivery. He has to grab real quick.

So I just, that's hilarious. I thought we were about to get another one of those. Y'all know how it is where Christian used to love to answer the telemarketer phone calls and just, just completely clown with them. But, but, yeah, again, looking at the three movies, just, just, how they've played out. And I'm not even really throwing Brave New World into it, because in all honesty, it's a very distant fourth for me. But I think part of, it's always going to be a combo of things, because again, it's art. I mean, one is the, you know, obviously the character

development and how the story is moving. Two is like, what is the movie trying to say one way or the other? Because, again, every single piece of art always has a message one way or the other, believe it or not. I mean, everything from your kids' movies to documentaries to whatever. They all have something that they're attempting to get across to you. And I just think to that point, the idea, and probably the reason why Thunderbolt hits for me a little harder is just because it resonates where I am in life, this idea of, you know, potentially like imposter syndrome or what do I do next or I don't feel fulfilled or things like that. There's like, that is, I'm not at a midlife crisis by any means,

but I'm starting to get closer to that age of just like, okay, where are we going next? What path are we taking next? And that's really what Thunderbolt's focus is on. Fantastic for the idea of family and how important that is. And not just the family immediately connected to you, but the idea of your greater community and people putting their stuff aside to complete a greater goal.

I think it was so well done in Fantastic Four that that's part of why I think it's resonating for a lot of people. I know that's why it's resonating for me for sure. So all I can say above all else, y'all, is I would definitely suggest you check this one out. If you can do it in IMAX, that would be the way to go. I really enjoyed it.

I enjoyed it in IMAX. Did you see IMAX? or what did you do for your morning? Everyone comes to be an MX. Yeah. I'm curious about the 40X thing, man. I'm just, I've never gone to one of those before,

so it just feels like it'd be kind of fun. But yeah, no, I'm really about this movie, and I'm very curious to see what the first weekend box office is going to turn out to be. Yeah, me too. And I'm so back and forth, whether you've been bringing up on the air what we talked about off here about the press tour

with Vanessa Kirby and Pedro Vescal. we could do that I was also going to bring up I would I would talk about the thing we talked about yesterday if you remember when I called I thought that it was unnecessary for them to describe that I mentioned on my spoiler review that I think that

Winston and I were talking about yesterday on the phone was that there was all this this whole thing about Johnny and mentioning up top that always not going to be like the traditional playboy and do all this stuff it's like in the movie he mentioned

many times over how much he loves women and he's pursuing something someone in the movie and you're like why did you have to you don't seem like womanizing or anything but why did you have to bring that up it's like you're just going to be just asking people to get pissed off for no reason literally because the funny thing is you you've perfectly captured his character as far as that element of him you didn't need to say it you could have just let him be and we would have been fine it literally felt like you were starting shit for no reason right like like some of the people in the comments right now Cut it out, Jack. What are you doing? Cut it out. Just enjoy the fucking conversation today. Please. Let's get into some other stuff because we have tons of others. So put your thoughts in there. Let us know what you think about this movie. Are you going to see it? You're going to check it out. We've got more fantastic for stuff that we're going to do. Let's get into it. But before we do, I'm going to tell you guys both about Indic Cloud, which I think Jack might need some and Cash App. Let's do it. Into cloud. It feels like you're breaking the rules, but it's totally illegal. And better for you than that third cocktail. You work hard. Maybe. You deal with life sometimes, but do you still deserve an escape? Absolutely. That's where Indy Cloud comes in. They got gummies, they have flowers, they have pre-rolls, all federally legal, seriously fun, and just a few clicks away. Whether you're chasing better sleep, deeper intimacy, or just solid daytime relief. This is grown-up cloud chasing done right. So if you're 211, or older head to indeclound.c.c. You guys know. I'm always on the hunt for new gummies. And so Indicloud sent me some and their flavors are incredible. I like it. I like that there's no hangover afterwards. I know there's no sketchy ingredients, just good energy, solid buzz. And I just felt good. That's the whole thing. So it sounds like a loophole,

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How did that go? Sam thought it was the farts. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. And, yeah, those. second the singing planet happened she was ready to choose that's fair that's fair the last thing i was going to say because there's it's been a little there's been a little controversy right now because a lot of times marvel will reboot particular uh books and teams or heroes or whatever when a new

mc movie mccccccc movie comes out and so they did do a fantastic four issue one and in that they're they have sue kind of leading the team and to be honest with you i felt like we got a similar dynamic here, but it rang more true to Ironman and Captain America kind of doing that split, where it's like, Ironman is obviously the smartest man in the room, and like big, big scheme plan is the guy, but then Cap kind of calls the shots in the field. In certain ways, that's kind of what it felt like was going on here with Sue and Reed. It felt very similar to the way like, you know, Steve Jobs. had his cook or like a Wozniak or whatever.

You know what I'm saying? Where it's like, yeah, Reed is definitely the one that's like making the, the move in the ball. But Sue is like kind of the spokesperson. You know what I mean? And so that that was, you know, she had multiple speeches like one of the beginning, one in the middle where she was addressing. They established like they're like what their dynamic is and what like who they are

as characters. They didn't well. Well, they're also doing pretty well thus far in the box office. It's 24.4 million. And here's the latest on the U.S. and the global openings. So Josh Wilding at Comic and Wooby, Variety brings word that the fantastic four first steps earned a massive $24.4 million on Thursday in North America. The biggest haul of 2025 in terms of previews, the previous record was Superman, which had 22.5.

According to the trade, this put Marvel's first family on track for a $100 million to $110 million-dollar opening weekend. Something doesn't quite add up there, especially when Superman opened to 125 earlier this month and making less from previews. Chances are Disney is looking to temper expectations. The optics are better to overperform than underperform and touting a potential 130, for example, only to fall short would completely change the narrative when final numbers are reported. And has the four first steps is still eyeing an international debut of 90 to 100, but again, the reboot is expected to do better with overseas audiences, and Superman did. It will have to seem to wait to see how this team can soar over the weekend.

It's said that the Marvel Studios movie costs $200 million to produce, $100 million of market, so positive word of mouth will be crucial in the weeks ahead, with $1 billion no longer the norm for superhero movies. Now might be a good time for Marvel and D.C. to figure out how to make these things for a lot less money. You're here. The Fantastic Four First Steps is the Return to Form for the MCU as Captain America Brave New World made 12 million in previous before an 88.5 million opening weekend. As for Thunderbolts, earned 11.5 million ahead of a 76 million debut.

Here's a wild factoid for you. The Fantastic Four First Steps, 24.4 million. Thursday is almost as much as 2015's Fantastic Four Gross during its entire opening weekend. Set against the vibrant back job? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It goes into it. So I think that they hit this, they hit the nail on the head here. I think that Disney is saying, hey, we're looking at about a 110, hoping that they're going to hit around 120 to 130.

I think the movie's going to come in around between 125 and 130 opening weekend is what I think. And then internationally, I think it'll do too. I think we'll get close to like 280 worldwide. I think that Disney made a smart move similar to what Gunn did with crypto. You see a lot of Herbie here. And I think that that's going to be a big draw for kids as well. well to try and hit that four quadrant kind of mentality, especially with this movie being about family.

You're going to, that's just going to pull people in. So I agree with you. I think I'm going to go a little bit on the lower end and say 120 to 125. I am going to pull a Disney here and go with lower expectations so that we can go, wow, look at that. Yeah. Well, so I'm curious overall what it'll make. It's going to be interesting to say because I think they're also right.

the days of the billion dollar movie are especially for comic book movies it's very hard we've been talking about this whole week i think the three um there's really only three movies i think left that have a shot um and that is avatar which i think is pretty much a guarantee talking about for this year for the whole rest of the year okay yeah um zootopia too has a shot Wicked too has a shot. I think that I mean, there's Tron and other things too, that's not going to hit, that's not going to hit a billion dollars.

So I really only think that the sure bet, if it was like, okay, I only have $100 and I want to put it on one of those movies. You put it on Avatar and you walk away from the table. You a thousand percent put it on Avatar. That's, that is, but that is also going to be the lowest payout. So if I'm going to do it, I'm actually going to go for Wicked because that I think best. Oh, is you tell you? Yes.

The only reason why, I'm not saying that Zootopia isn't going to do gangbusters just because of the kids element. I think just because off the back of what Wicked already did, especially knowing that some of the bigger moments in what is that musical as a whole, is going to draw people in even harder. I think you made fans out of people that didn't know or didn't care. So that's going to elevate it. And then the diehards are going to really be into this going forward. I think that's fair. I think I just think that like I the two things I won't bet against are James Cameron and and kid movies. I just don't totally get it.

I don't know, but that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that's the best shot. I'm saying odds to pay out. I'm going with Wicked. But if you're going best shot, it's Avatar easily. I'm going to take Avatar out. If it was if it was like I only had $100 either Wicked or Zootopia, I'm putting on Zutopia. I don't blame you.

Yeah, no. And I also understand your reasoning for Wicked too. I just think that if you look at the numbers of the ones that have hit it recently, Moana 2, I mean, Lilo and Stitch, it's all, it's all kid stuff. No, I get it. Yeah, so, and it's because, and I think that that's what's going to, that's why I would put the money there. But, and I think the first wicked did what, like 785 or something like that? It was super close.

It was, it was, it was, 785 sounds about right, to be honest with you. It was right in that range. So, like, that's what I'm saying. With it only being about 300 away. Yeah. And knowing the kind of fervor it built up that way, I think that's where you can take it to the next level. Yeah. As long as the movie is the same quality, like, you'll, I think they'll do it.

Agreed. But I ask you guys, what do you think the overall numbers for Fantastic Four are going to be this weekend? When do you think it's going to do, overall? More things to talk about. Winston, you're on your own here this. week to battle up against Roxy Stryor who currently sits at 103. We have 23 so far, which is pretty good. Poor Steph was struggling yesterday, but wound up having a little bit of a

of a fight, but didn't come close to getting to Roxy. Roxy right now is in the driver's seat. Now, can Winston pull it off of 23 so far before we get to the questions? You know, we mentioned the Thunderbolts before. Hmm. Um, and so let's talk about this. Thunderbolt's director breaks silence on the movie's box office struggles, responds to Ogo for the English comments.

I didn't know if she had comments or her comments. Did you know her comments? No, I had no idea. Let's find out what they were. Thunderbolt's director Jake Shrier has broken his silence on the movie struggles of the box office and responds to complaints about Oga's shocked departure as taskmaster. Uh, spoilers too late.

Thunderbolts opened in theaters to overwhelmingly positive reviews, but struggled to make an impact at the box office. The movie ended up with less than 400 million worldwide, a disappointing result for the New Avengers. The movie's lead characters weren't well known to anyone who has been paying attention to the shows. Plus, despite an inventive marketing campaign, the Thunderbolts didn't have much in a way of name recognition.

Thunderbolts is now available on digital and 4K and Blu-ray. Talking variety, Jake Shrier was asked to reflect on the movie's box office performance. He said, for me, it's so strange trying to grasp how people watch these things. It was really fun to go around to audience screenings. You can't even take for granted that you are going to get a theatrical release. So to be part of that movie that goes out there, it really is about the theatrical experience. People can share it and talk about it and say what they want, whether they liked it or they didn't, and they have that. And then they have that and then they have that continue. Sure. It's nice to be part of a movie that gets to have that life.

Clearly not eager to be joined in a conversation about box office receipts. Either way, it hasn't made much difference to the director as he's already signed up to take on X-Men. In a recent interview, Olga Kariniko addressed learning her major role in Thunderbolts have been reduced to glorified cameo after returning to work following 2020-3 strikes, responding to Black Widow Star's comments. Fryer said, yeah, I think Olga has spoken about that. It was something that happened after the strike when we were redeveloping the script. I know there are people that have reached out to let me know that they were displeased with us. I understand it. It's not something we took lightly. Obviously, I think Olga is a wonderful actress. It's a hard thing to do.

It's just showing that for these characters is something that's done and they feel that all of their lives don't have a ton of value While many fans have demanded justice for taskmaster are equally as many who have seen unbothered by the shocking demise The female taskmaster wasn't exactly a hit in 2021 And yeah, yeah, okay great all right, so Let's start with that first I didn't have a problem with that and I understand that for old is she's dying now I understand for her why she would be upset about the job And here's here's everybody else who's benefiting and moving on to the Avengers and doing it.

Of course, she's going to be pissed off of that sucks for her. So I'm not going to say that, you know, oh, she's why she complaining. I get it. I understand why she's complaining. I just don't have a problem with it. And plus the fact that what they said in the earlier, I don't think that she was enough of a character. If you were going to take anyone out of those characters out of the characters, that's the one you do it.

I think for me, the only issue I had, I mean, it did two things. I both on the one hand was like, man, that's set a tone. Like, it very much set a tone. Like, I remember that about Game of Thrones because, like, I was watching that first episode. I feel like I watched the pilot of Game of Thrones like two or three times that I couldn't get through. I'd fall asleep, but fall asleep. And you get to the very end of the first episode, spoiler for a show that's been out for over a decade at this point. Right.

When Brand climbs up, sees Circe and banging her bro. And then he throws Brain out the window. I was like, what is the show? You kind of had the same thing with how Taskmaster was dealt with in very quickly. I think the only thing that I would have preferred is maybe loser in act two, not not within the first 20 minutes. You know what I mean? I don't know.

I like the balls of it. I like the balls of it where it's like they said, it shows you they're expendable. And it shows you. And it also shows you from seeing who does it and why it happens. it's like oh man it's like squid game at this point it's like so i liked that like i said it's one of the reasons i liked the movie because it's like you just didn't know where it was going to go and like whoa they're going they're going there who else can go yeah um and it went dark so

i didn't mind it but i also like i said i do not have an issue with her speaking out about it it sucks you're especially when they're so involved in the upcoming movies now as far as you're an action star right i'm not an act oh i will say that i I also like the way that Jake Schreier addressed the box office. He's still got a gig from it. He still got it's like this is not one of those things where you're like, well, smartly. It's not, oh, his movie didn't perform.

We hired him too quick. They're very, because you look at what happened with, look at the example of the difference between like, say this and the Flash. Flash did not go over well with the fans, right? People who saw Thunderbolts loved it. It was just people weren't giving it a chance in the theater. That's not a matter of like they weren't seeing because it's hurt. It stinks.

They just didn't care about it and didn't know what was going on with these characters and wasn't invested. People who saw him, well, that was a well-being movie. So you don't really have any buyer's remorse of hiring him for X-Men. I think for X-Men he's perfect, for especially what he just did with these bunch of misfits. What's he going to do with the mutant misfits? Absolutely. I think, I think that there is a very particular skill set to be able to work with an ensemble cast and to make them all feel pretty equal.

And again, I think that that's why with Matt Schenckman, that's why we had Natasha's character for Ben so that everybody felt like they got it like a thing. But that was something that I think Jake did exceptionally well with Thunderbolts, is everybody had something they were dealing with and it all got enough equal attention. Obviously, Yelena was the star, so she had the most focus. But everybody got an opportunity to try and exercise those demons and figure out. out who they are. And that balance takes work. I mean, it's why the first Avengers hit because, you know, Josh Whedon, however you feel about him one way or the other, like he did it with Buffy,

the Vampire Slayer. He comes in here with the first Avengers. He found a way for everybody to be relevant and to give them a moment. So I think if Jake can do this, I think the real question is how many people are you going to put on that initial X-Men team? You put too many. That's when you kind of run into trouble you need to get like a kind of a core group and then build out over time do you do you put wolverine in it to start i mean do you are i don't think so because even though if you don't you're going to get wolverine's not even in this i'm not going to see this you're going to get that for sure but unless they find them towards like the end of the movie that's what i'm saying i don't think you need him right away i think you could do it any number because think about first

class first class didn't have wolverine except for a cameo and it and people love that movie so i think the better thing to do either you can put it in a post credit you could make it you can make a comment that he's off doing something I think give the other X-Men some time to shine here especially when you saw how

X-Men 97 really worked and yeah Logan was around but he was not the focus for the whole show and it was actually refreshing for a lot of people like seeing Cyclops actually do something in X-Men 97 people were like yeah put some respect on my boy's name I think this first one

come back to Logan. I think he is very important. I think you have to have him for the long run, but give the other X minute chance. Well, that's the whole thing. You've got to give them a shot to show why they were so popular in the first place and show why people responded to them without letting Logan take the spotlight again. It's like, let show us why they're so great, even without them.

So by the time you use them, you're already benefiting people who are so invested in Now, the question is, are they going to do what they did with Fantastic 4 and just throw you into the universe again where they're already established, or are we going to see a new origin with these new X-Men? It's going to be interesting to see. It will be, especially because I am curious. We've obviously talked about mutants in the 616 at this point. I am curious to see if this is, look, man, the mutants have just been under the radar. Um, if, if, you know, whatever is kind of going to bring this out to light, that all of a sudden it's like a whole thing. I'm very curious because again, it was smart to do it with the Fantastic Four. You put them on a different earth. You can explain why they haven't been around.

You know what I mean? It is. You know what I hope though. I really hope that I know this has been a comic book thing and maybe they just can't do this and it's the sacred timeline, whatever. Fantastic Four made me hopeful that if they are going to do a reboot, like for people who don't know if you're watching this show clearly you do is 616 is the the world that we've been following since whatever 2008 or whatever it might be fantastic for is the first movie that

features on a different world let's feature on a different world in general whatever happens at the events let's get away from the 616 let's just completely wipe it away let's we did all that it exists somewhere else let's start somewhere new so then you don't have to watch all the shows and everything if you're jumping back into it for this first time let these X-men exist somewhere else and whether or not the Fantastic Four or anybody else gets involved that's the planet that they're on I mean there was there was a talk I don't know if we're doing the story but there was something about Feige during the press tour I saw some I didn't read the article I just saw the headline about them essentially doing that reboot

when Secret Wars was over and the new casting for both Iron Man and Captain America. So like if there's truth to that, then it sounds like we may be and part of Secret Wars in the way that that works anyway, because it's whoever's in charge whether it be the Beyonder or God Emperor Doom, smashing everything together so they can make

battle world. The point is then when it's all done, you go back, but like the last secret wars, the ultimate universe was gone forever. That's where Miles Morales existed. And now he became a part of the main continuity. And you kind of had a start over.

So I think that you could that that's part of why I think they're going the Secret Wars route in the first places. So you can go yep, Robert Donnie Jr. is done. Chris Evans is done. Let's start over. Let's let's really figure out what we're doing going forward, you know. It's true. And it's like we had it. It's great. Like you can't the multiverse has to stop. It's like it's just too damn confusing for everybody. And it's one of the reasons that I think I think the multiverse really hurt Marvel because there's just too much. And it's like, well, wait, and there's no stakes. anybody like they've got to make sure to show you moving forward that every version of somebody is dead if someone dies you've you've got to show me that moving forward like oh okay the stakes are real like this isn't oh there's another version of that person it's like no this is this is legit you got to make sure that you're resetting you're going to reboot you do it that way so i know i know it's it's sacrilege to say you don't want to be on the the

the, you don't want to be on the major, the one that we're on, our role? No, I'm okay with it. I'm all right with trying to new war. I'm also okay with a story being done. I'm okay if the 616 universe's story is complete, and now we're looking at another universe. You know what I mean? Like, that's okay to me.

Yeah, right. That's why I want to set the X-Men somewhere else. Because we had our X-Men. Our X-Men, well, I think, maybe not, because I think that those X-Men are on a different, on a different, you know, this is where all gets. No, I understand that. And if genuinely, if you want to do, I mean, you like the Spider-Verse films, right?

Yeah, I do. So the idea, for example, that, like, Gwen, she really is one of the people that's zipping through the different, you can have a couple people that are like, these are the people from the different universe or whatever. They're the ones that are traversing it. Everybody else, we just focused on this. You know what I mean? And you don't need to do anything other than that and just leave it at that. I think that that will work. Fingers crossed.

So what do you guys make of all this? The X-Men talk, everything that we were just discussing here. from how they're going to make this work. Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. It can happen. We just crossed, I think we're almost at 12,000, or we are at 12,000 on the Clips channel.

So make sure you check that out. Apple, podcast, Spotify, whether it's the replay, let your voice be known. Okay, let's jump a little bit, Winston. Let's switch to the DC. So there's some Aquaman talk, and talking about,

Aquaman is James Gunn. So James Gunn had a whole thing confusing. He was going back and forth with what's canon, what's not canon, in the first episode of Peacemaker, Season 1, filmmaker and DC Studios co-CEO, James Gunn, suggested that Aquaman is not a well-known superhero in the new DCU. Jason Momoa first played Arthur Curry in 2016 Batman's B-Superman, Donna Justice. That cameo was followed by a proper debut in 2017's Justice

League and despite the movie's failings, Aquaman fallen in 2018, splash down to a massive $1.1 billion worldwide. The sequel was released in 2023, and while the DCEU movie was more successful than the rest of that year's DC offering is still flopped with a disappointing 440 for its global hall. We're not sure what the plan for the King of Atlantis would have been had the DCEU stuck around, though Warner Brothers majorly dropped the ball by not properly adapting Flashpoint in the Flash that would have seen Aquaman and Wonder Woman's respective kingdoms at war with each other.

Chances are he'd have been in crisis in Infinite Earth movie at least. Akamam was the butt of many jokes in Peacemaker Season 1 with Christopher Smith repeatedly claiming that the hero bangs fishes. The payoff to the gag came in the finale where Momoa showed up as Arthur alongside Ezra Miller's flash to deny the accusations. That scene is no longer canon now that the DCEU has been replaced by the DCU, but much of the peacemaker did still happen. talking on Peacemaker, the official podcast, James Gunn discussed the first episode of season one confirming that blood support remains canon. Aquaman's celebrity status, however, does not. It's unlikely that Aquaman is a famous hero in the DCU as Superman and Peacemaker's season two are happening. That's unlikely.

The Superman director in DC Studio co-CEO confirmed, joking that fans can make a DCU cut of the series. Gun added, you can cut out Aquaman banging fish. This comes after Gunn recently said we be waiting at least a couple of years before seeing Aquaman in the flash in the DCU and the expectation is that both characters will be played by new actors it's going to be exciting to see what guns take on arthur looks like especially as he isn't as well-known hero in this world when the events of superman takes place moa has moved on to lobo um so he talks about loving lobo supergirl supergirl travels run the guy so you're going to see him next as lobo in supergirl um but this to me is even more confusing than the multiverse to be honest it's like

And I don't think Gunn really knows the answer of what to say. She's like, well, that part of it, what I said there, we can still use that. But that over there, that's not. And that is. But that's not. Is there going to be an answer why? And if there's an answer to why and you go, oh, well, that makes sense as far as why. And it's clear cut.

But if you're like asking questions, well, it seems like the, I know the answer is, is Harley Quinn in suicide squad and all the other stuff from the DCCEU? Is Margot Robbie or Harley Quinn? No, she's not. Is Gal Gadot? No, she's not. So little things that have been, this is the problem with because he obviously loves peacemaker, who's proud of it, wants to make it part of the DCU,

had to kind of maneuver things. He made it very clear in that, I don't know if it's the same one, same interview or not, but he made it very clear that anybody you saw in Black Adam from his DCU, that's not canon. like Amanda Waller wasn't doing what she was doing. Hartcourt was not working at the underwater prison. Like none of that is can.

He made that clear. But if you're not listening to interview, this is my question, I guess to you right now. If you're not listening to his interviews and you're just a casual fan watching, how do you know? My only guess here,

because again, this was kind of a weird mess where like, Peacemaker was his baby. So he didn't want to let that go. Right. I don't necessarily disagree that like Viola Davis Viola Davis honestly is like a perfect casting for Waller. The only thing you might change is that traditionally Waller tends to be a little like heavier set.

So maybe if you wanted to go that route and see if there's another actress that can bring the same kind of energy and just fits the design of the character. But other than that, my guess is Peacemaker will have a moment. We've seen in the first teaser trailer. Right. that peacemaker and his crew and probably Waller as well end up to mention hopping and that's while they're there that's the that's the only thing that would make sense otherwise you are making this unnecessarily messy and that sucks if you're trying to say this is something different we're on some new ish you need to have a very clean moment in peacemaker that explains why the people that

got to keep their jobs kept their jobs otherwise you are just already setting yourself up to to be down a touchdown at the start of the game it doesn't make sense yeah well but i think the other side of it is you know for the casual fan that's really just not going to really be paying attention and it i don't think it's going to be so confusing because of the fact that superman clearly is the main focus right now right now anything and i would assume it would make sense we already know from the trailer that um we i think think i mean hawk girl i think is is already in the trailer as well as is guy gardner was mr terrific in in the in the trailer i can't remember i don't remember okay i know well those two definitely

work um and if and so to have those two in it we already know that we're pushing forward like that that's the main timeline if you will so if there's little things i don't think the casual fan's going to go back and say oh wait a minute what about the stuff in black adam Well, wait a minute. I think so I'm answering my own question. The people who are really asking those questions are listening to those interviews. Yeah. They are paying attention to what he is saying.

So they are getting the information, but I think it's not going to, you're not really going to care because it's Superman, it's lanterns, it's supergirl, it's all this other stuff that's going to push forward. and the events of Peacemaker Season 2 are going to be the most relevant. Right. So anyway, what do you guys make of James Gunn and his comments? Confusing, sure, who cares? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. Staying with Peacemaker.

Peacemaker Season 2, image reveals first look at monstrous new character, and there's a new synopsis released. Hell yeah. New behind-the-scenes photo from the second season of Peacemaker gives us a look. at first monstrous new character. We assume a villain, but you never know. We also have an updated synopsis. Den of Geek has shared some new images from the Second Caesar Peacemaker,

and one of them reveals a first look at a mysterious new creature. The behind-the-scenes shot, which also features James Gunn, is captured, captioned a rubber-suited monster and his little rat-like buddies. We're not sure if this is an established DC Comics character, race, or a new species created for the show. There's some speculation that the xenomorph inspired fellow could be Helgrimite, but he doesn't really look enough like an insect to us. Volition is another possibility, although he seems a little too tall.

Whoever this is, we assume he will be introduced as an enemy of Christopher Smith and his team. HBO Max has also released a new synopsis, which reveals why Peacemaker decides to venture into an alternate reality via the pocket universe technology. Okay, so we're ready. Superman becoming relevant there. for this and season two peacemaker discovers an alternate world where life is everything he wishes it could be but this discovery also forces him to face his traumatic past and take the future into its own hands i would love if that thing is actually good it looks evil yeah so it'd be great if it's actually

um and there's the there's a piece what is this supposed to come out um soon within the next like two weeks i think oh you're here right now uh maybe not But I don't know. I think it's sometimes I can Google it. I was just curious. Sometimes I'm an article. But either way, you know, I'm getting pumped for this one. August 21st, so we're just under a month.

That sounds great. I'm excited for it. I'm really looking forward to it. I started watching that show before I even started watching the boys. So that was like, you know, an appetizer to the boys without even realizing it because it's like so outrageous, both of the shows. but I love how much fun they have on that show. I really do. That's,

that's a me. That to me is, I think, the big thing. They genuinely look like they are just having fun. Yeah. And that is, those end up being the shows that,

that do the best. You know what I mean? Is if the whole team is it, that's why to me, you know, like always sunny, when as long as it did the office, when as long as.

It's still on. It's still on. No, no, I understand that. I mean, they did the, you know, the season premiere was the second half of the Abbott crossover, and it was hysterical because the one thing I said about the Abbott crossover, I was just like, they're not really going full, always sunny. And I get it because it's on ABC or on like a more family-friendly show and Abbott. But then you went full tilt on their show. It was fantastic.

So, no, I agree. Peacemaker, peacemaker, they genuinely feel like they are. having the time of their lives. And so if you bring that same energy, then I think the second season will be good, too. Who's your favorite character on this show? On Peacemaker? Yeah. Probably the, the best friend mercenary dude. I don't know what, the vigilante? Is that his name? Easily, hands down. So ridiculous. I was, I, we had him on the show last year. Great dude. But he's the best. He's the absolutely, he's so, he's so good. He was hilarious. The funny thing is, is like, I think what it did

for me even though that to me was the standout character i think it also gave me i always thought john cina was good but he hadn't really done anything quite yet where i said holy shh and this was it this is like watching him fully flushed this out i said holy crap he's got the juice man like he's he's out here i'm with you because i always thought he was just like okay i liked him in uh train wreck um but there were other stuff that he did i didn't i really i thought he was the worst part of bumbleby and i love that movie and there are things that he did i'm like he just kind of overcooks it sometimes like he doesn't wrestling and i'm like i don't know if this guy he's got chemistry he's got i mean he's got charisma but there's just something missing right and then here comes the suicide squad and i was like

oh he's great in this role and then i'm like okay i'm interested in a tv show now it's the best acting and his comedic chops were outstanding it it it was his star turn for sure yeah no i i i a thousand And to the point where we did this debate earlier about who would you argue is the best wrestling actor. And I feel like there's like three that always end up in the conversation. It's Batista, Sina, and The Rock. And I think where it stands right now, I still would give it to Batista. I would too. And then I would give it to Sina.

But I would argue that they are at a 1A, 1B kind of moment right now. I am very curious to see what The Rock does with this new film. he's got coming out. I think that because it's a UFC film, right? Like he's a UFC fighter? Who's that? The Rock is UFC fighter? I'm very curious about that because if the Rock knocks that out of the park,

I think he can get back in the conversation and mix some stuff up, but it just depends on what he brings to the role because that's the problem. Every other time he's played the Rock, if he finally diverts from that and really dives into this, I think we can talk about it again. But, you know, I don't think anyone's touching Batista right now. And if you

go to two years back, I didn't even have batista as the guy and i have i have 180 that um because he is so many different things that the shamalan thing that he did was the one that put me over he he's done so many different things and he really lays into the craft and really wants to you can tell he's he's he this he's an actor now i mean he did he's an act absolutely no no i rock's still a movie star i i've i fully agree with that and entirely i'm saying that like the at least for Sina because now I've seen a little bit of like range here.

Yeah. It's not just him playing a different version of Sina. I agree with you. He's the number two. I don't, you said 1A, 1B. I'm not there yet.

You would still put 1A, 2 instead of 1A, 1B. Yes. I think right now, yeah, and the Rock's probably is, is three,

but I think the rock can tie Sina with a great performance. Out of the, out of this movie. I still think they both, they both have a long way to go before they catch Batista at this moment. It's fair. Anyway, let's see what you guys think. Put your thoughts in there about Peacemaker Season 2.

Be excited for it. What do you think we're going to get out of it? Put your thoughts in there. All right, Winston, moment of truth, my friend. We're going to get to the questions here, and you got to catch Roxy at 103. Can you do it at least at Fitty? I doubt it.

See soon. I'll tell you some. Before we do, tell people what's going on before we start the... Absolutely. Come check me out. YouTube.com slash a swaggy blurt, Twitch. TV slash a swaggy blurt. This evening, I do apologize. I was supposed to do

the blazing saddles watch along with you guys this past Sunday. Christian knows I've had a lot of just really intense family emergency stuff going on. So I finally have the evening. We're not going to watch the movie tonight just because I'm not prepared for that, but I will be streaming for a while. I'll kind of talk about what's going on. But other than all

of that, I put out a theory of what I thought the Fantastic Four is about. Don't worry. It's not going to ruin anything for you. It's just an interesting kind of thought debate. and then I will have my non-spoiler review and spoiler reviews out today and tomorrow. So check all of that out and come say what's up. Come check out, Winston, and let's see if you guys can get him past Roxy Stryor. Currently, I'm trying to check if we missed any through stream here,

but currently it says we have 31 right now. Okay, all right, that's far away, but we can still do this. Okay, Roxy was at like 38 when she defeated Rocha this week, so we'll see. let's start with the first one. If this is indeed the first one, I'm going to double check right now through the YouTube setting, and then I'll let you know.

The first one should be from Tyler Pfeiffer. If it's Tyler Pfeiffer, then we're good to go. No, it's not. So you might have a few extra ones here. Double check. All right, Tyler Pfeiffer, first one here. And my friend throughout the idea of Sean Bean as Bruce in a potential Brave and the Bold movie,

now I'm obsessed with that idea. I like Sean Bean. they're going to go with an older Batman. You can definitely pull it off. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what he's looking like right now because I know he's obviously. He's older, but it's like the question is like, what kind of Batman are we looking for? And that's, that's the main question. I get it. I guess the only thing with him, like he doesn't, he looking at him right now, he's not really, he hasn't changed much over the last like decade or so. But I got to imagine whoever they're casting his Batman, we're looking at a decade here. So he's 66 right now. He's going to be Batman until he's 76.

Right. I mean, I don't know. It just depends. It depends. So that's, so that's one extra one. You have actually at 30, 33, you know, 33. Okay. So J. Dash is a huge sci-fi nerd. I love Fantastic 4. The retro futuristic vibe was totally at my alley. This is a top-tier Marvel. And I cannot wait for Goomsay now. How great was the CGI in Space. Well, so my favorite parts. Yeah, this stuff was great. It's great. And there's a particular scene in the second act of what they have to do. and how they make that work. And it did, I understood why people were comparing it to the visuals of interstellar. I got it when I saw that. There's a moment in, there's a moment in space that I don't know if we're talking about the same moment where all I could think to myself, I was like, see, if the Flash had done this. Right.

You know what I mean? Like it's, you kind of know what I'm talking about specifically, right? Okay. All right. Next one, J. Dash E. 23. This is just my opinion. but it almost felt a little bit like Star Wars between the main spaceship, look at the city

would be a really cool Star Wars city. Yeah, I understand I understand where you could say that. Like some of the stuff, you could have fit that kind of feel and tone to a Star Wars movie. I agree with you. Lacho Villa, Villabla, Bilaba, became a member. Thank you. You probably didn't become a member after I just butchered your name.

Timbino, 21, Thunderbolt, Soups, and Fantastic Four, all needed 10 to 15 minutes, more. I think Superman probably, there was that rumor that they cut, they trimmed it off. And I wonder, because there's a little bit more development could have been. Thunderbolts, I don't know. I don't know if it needed any. I did Thunderbolts did pretty well. You know, it's funny. I was trying to pinpoint why specifically I kind of have Fantastic Four over Superman a little bit. Part of it was what was going on. I think the other moment for me, the one thing in Superman that continues to stick out this idea of all these characters that were

put in there and did not get enough time to develop. Whereas in Fantastic Four, I feel like the only one was Natasha, Natasha's character. Other than that, I felt like everybody got a chance to be like, oh, who are you and what do you do and all that kind? You know what I mean? So, yeah, that's fair. The shame, Markell, are you seeing these videos comparing how Corrin's what Superman saves all these people with Cavill?

Superman just lets them die in order to look cool. Nah. I love Manus Steel. I loved Cavill. I wanted him back. We didn't get them back. Let's move on. Let's move.

I get it. I just, I think, I think the comment specifically, I will never forget in Batman v. Superman, and I understand that the, the bomb that Lex had planted was covered in lead or something so that Superman couldn't see it. When you consider Superman is fast enough to reverse time, that he couldn't save, like, even a person, two people, like, he's just standing there just like, God, everything's blowing up versus Superman saving a squirrel in like this reason. That's, I get the comparison.

little bit i think i was taking a pee when that happened because everybody kept talking about how superman say big balls and i was like i didn't i didn't i don't remember that i think there's one time i went to pee and i think that's what it happened oh okay it was during that it was during the kaiju fight yeah i think so i don't know uh dingus mcnelly i'm a huge fan of it's always sunny i was thinking about the golden god glen howerton as booster gold in the dc u you could pull it off he could pull it off ben howerton i think so yeah for sure i i I'm telling you, Blackberry or what was it? I think it was the Blackberry movie.

What was it called? Was it called Blackberry? I can't remember the name of the movie, but it was the movie that he did that he was about, it was about the Blackberry. He was great, underrated. He should have been nominated for that role. He should have.

He was so good in it. But I would, I would recommend that. I think he's a really telling an actor. Armada, new Vince Gilgan show reveal at 3 o'clock. Also really enjoyed Fantastic Four last night. That Galactus popcorn button got me like, God damn. I didn't see the bucket. Did you?

I saw the Herbie one. I don't know if that's specific to the theaters. Okay. But like the Herbie one I saw was really cool. And that's immediately when I thought like as much as I enjoyed Herbie in the movie and I did. I was like, oh, right. That is a thousand percent. The kid draw is, is herby from that. But I did not see the Galactus one, which you were right. I saw your out of the theater reaction as I was going in. Black this was terrifying, bro. Terrifying. But he was supposed to be. And it's his attitude in general, like, of what he's burdened with that you're just like, oh, man, this guy doesn't give an F.

David, what's up, David, David, Trudea. Yo, it's my birthday. Did I give me some love? Happy birthday, man. Yeah, yeah. You're fantastic for tomorrow. Can't wait. Also so happy Gilmore 2 this morning.

Thought it was actually pretty good. I hear mixed. I hear from you. And I heard that it's, that some of it is funny, but they kill the jokes. I'm probably going to do a reaction. My goal is to try to actually do a reaction to it. but today before I leave. I can't imagine it's that long.

Luke, send me a text. How long is it? I'm going to guess it's 140. That's my guess. But do you have any interest in seeing? 154. It's just under two hours. Yeah.

That's a long. That's long. Considering the first one is 133. I mean. You add an extra 21 minutes. That's long. I don't know if that movie needs to be that long. But I mean, I haven't seen it.

So I don't know. No, I actually just rewatched the first one when I was visiting my dad a week ago, which was fascinating because my lady and I were watching it. And then my dad walked in the room, he goes, what is this? And I was like, you've never seen Happy Gilmore as much of a golf head as you are. So he loved it. So I am just concerned because a lot of these movies, especially comedies that get sequels a decade or so later, do not pan out well.

Like coming to America was not good. Xilander 2 was not good. No, but the difference is this. which I agree with you 100% by the way. But the difference will be that both those movies, I think Zoolander 2 came out in the theaters and tanked, and the other one came out and streaming and just didn't do well. This movie is going to destroy on streaming.

So it doesn't matter how good it is or not, it's going to destroy. But I guess that's the thing, especially if we're not talking box office, I am more concerned because coming to America also destroyed on streaming, but I don't want to leave a bet. Just as far as like people anticipating it so much. I don't know, but anticipating is different. Did it actually do well in the radio? Like, I mean, they, one, they don't release the numbers,

but as far as like people just talking about it, yeah, it did, but that's the problem. Most of the talk was like, yeah, I saw it. God damn it, ruin one of my favorite movies of all time. That's more what I'm worried about because because it doesn't have the stakes of let's put in a box office. No, you're right. It was considered a hit in terms of streaming viewership because it was the most watch

watch title on Amazon Prime Video in its debut week. However, it didn't achieve the same. cultural or critical impact as the original coming to America. It drew in large viewership numbers, had strong African-American viewership, some reviews noted to rely heavily on nostalgia and lack the same community brilliance first film. So, you know, you're 100% right.

That's what I'm worried about with this, because I love Happy Gilmore. Could be exactly the same same exact thing. Nathan Drake, do you think Superman will make it to 550 million now that the fantastic four reviews are great? That seems disappointing. Man, I still ended with 670 back in 2013. Well, 2013 was definitely a different year in regards to comic book movies, but still, I think it would be a little bit disappointing for sure, but it's the same thing.

They've got good clout with the audience that has seen it. People are excited about the DCU in general. They have other movies that have come out for Warner Brothers that can add to them not really losing money. They made a lot of money through Minecraft and a ton of sinners and other things. so that's why they can say if it was the only movie they had coming out this year then you'd definitely be a little bit more bummed about it but I think will it make 550 I do do I think it'll hit six can be a stretch um yeah yeah because what it's at it's at 432 right now so it needs to make another 120 yeah um I'm just saying I'm not bad

box office kept telling everybody on this damn show they didn't have a close I have a chance of one billion everybody kept Winston was arguing with me and Roxy was arguing with me It was, I think it was just because of the, the size of the IP and because of the way it was drawing so much attention. Yeah. It's international box office, though, dude. That's, if you don't, if you don't have that. I just didn't know that, I didn't know Superman was going to eat at the international box office. Like, they was going to tan.

It did, it didn't, it did better week two, but week one was disappointing. Armada, did you guys ever know about the Teenage Ninja Turtles World Tour musical? Winston? Yes, I did. That is fun. something of the feeling a song called skipping stones it sounds like springsteen you won't be disappointed watching it is never knew about it dude that whole it's sad that i could kind of sing some of the songs like shredder comes out rapping and the kids are blowing they have a song talk called we were coming out of a shell

but yeah i i know about it sadly singing you know what i just i just did a reaction i'll be coming out probably monday um i finally watched k-pop demon hunters with uh with with Tina yeah It's good. That's what I've heard. I still need to watch it myself. It looks fantastic. Edit the movies. Fantastic for it was great.

My MVP was also Sue. I want to go again. That's the other thing. This is the first movie in a while that I wanted to go back into the theater to watch again. I haven't felt like that in the movie. Well, sinners I probably would have seen in the theater again, but I watched it as soon as it came out on digital. But yeah, that's it.

That's what I'm going to say. Yeah, I saw sinners in theaters three times. Yeah. And then I did not see Thunderbolts in theaters the second time. I will probably see Superman again in theaters because my lady wants to see it. So I would do that. And then I would definitely go see this again by myself or with her if she wanted to go. Yeah.

I'm going to see an IMAX again. It was great to watch an IMAX. Tyler Ballmer 92. Hey guys, three good comic movies in a row. It's been a while. Christian, did you ever get around to watching Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man? And if so, what did you think? It's all my favorites.

I have not heard a single bad thing about that show. Everybody's talking about how good it is. I have so many other things, though, that I want to watch. And I just, to be completely honest, I'm just not interested. I'm sure it's great. In the same way that like, like, skeleton crew, everyone talks about goods and how enjoyable skeleton crew was. I'm just not interesting.

I'm sure it's great. And if I ever get to it, I'd probably go, you know, it was a really fun show. But I'm just, yeah, it's not one of those. There's so many other shows that I want. I still got to finish the bear. I got to finish some other things, other movies I want to watch. So the Spider-Man animated show is not the one I'm going to go after. It's genuinely one of, I think, I don't normally, like, this is not a complaint about what we do at all.

But that is the one rough thing about what we do because we have to cover so much. There are times where things slip through the cracks and I keep being like, I need to come back to it. I need to come back to it. I just haven't. I haven't watched this season of the bear. I didn't finish the previous season of the bear. I got halfway through. I'm distracted and I need, like, you know what I mean?

So like it just I like the season of the bear so far. Let's see, Joe for show. I love Fantastic 4. I can't wait to watch it again. Yeah, I feel the same way, Joe. I feel the same way. I don't know when I'm going to see it. I'm going to see naked gun on Monday.

Nice. Zach, not Zach four. Fantastic 4 is a 9 out of 10. Take away the action. It still smacks. That's what I gave it. I gave it a 9 out of 10. Yeah.

Love that. Yep. Next one. After that. Let's see. And someone asked me if I saw Fantastic4 with Sam. No, I did not. Sam, Sam is not seeing any of these movies in the theater. She's waiting until, you know, when it comes out on digital, we'll watch it together. Chris J. Herman, I really enjoyed Fantastic Four. I loved how conversational the movie was. Yeah, it's more of a sci-fi family drama. Great. Love that. I actually wanted to do you longer.

I don't think I disagree with the single thing, single thing that Chris just said there. Dude, the moment in the moment in act two where we get to see how damn strong Sue is. that was that was cool yeah it was pretty pretty great 44 wins 44 come on let's see 45 minutes can you catch roxy it's winston versus roxy can Winston take the win we shall see it's in roxy and roca passing the torchback every week joke for show i decided to fill my work desk with popcorn buckets after putting up the galactus one i have no more room for anything else oh well we're i got i'm sure it's it's a massive thing that was the only thing about that smurfs movie the stuff that they were given when you walked into that screening, there was three, they gave you three options.

I was by myself. Had I had my kids with me, we had done all three. But there was a Smurf bucket. It was like Smurf Village popcorn bucket, which was great. There was a big smurf, sippy thing, which was pretty great. And then it was a really soft blanket. I took the blanket. Pick it for the dog, but the little one is using it.

Yeah. Dude, this thing is huge. That's what Jesus. Jesus Christ. The Tyler, Tyler, Bomer, 92. If the end goal was to merge all. all the timelines in the multiverse, why don't you think Marvel told more stories from other us like Fantastic Four? Because I don't think that they thought they had to.

I also think that they only figured out to do this now. I think this is a, I think this is a, okay, okay, we got to reset this thing. Because what was the original? The original one was called Kang Dynasty. And then it was always called Secret Wars for the second one. They were always going to call Secret Wars, yeah. I think that was the whole thing, especially knowing you had Kang, Kang being time traveler, all that kind of stuff.

They were always going to come back around to this, but I don't think this is the route they thought they were going to go. And I think this is why they're now, you called an audible. And so far it's working, and I'm sure they will find a way to explain this in a little bit. Simon's action, the only thing I didn't like about Fantastic Four,

it didn't end the way I thought. Also, Christian, I noticed that a character had their last Jedi moment taken away from it. Yeah, I know what you're talking about, but I think it was kind of necessary. I think it was necessary. Are we talking about, are we talking about nine three? Yeah, it was necessary.

I mean, because the same thing. I was like, oh, they were going to do this? And I was like, I understand why they did this. It was necessary. I thought for a number of reasons, actually. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll talk about it on spoiler conversations next time we have a shot.

So again, 49 right now, Winston, growing. El Baba Yaghan. You know, you guys see the video of Koi and Sean Levy getting into it at the con. Levy screaming, he's an action star. And Koi simply looking and saying what happened, wish I knew. There's no world that that actually happened. Where is this video? If it did happen, Winston and I will be giving Koi tons of shit for 10 minutes straight next week because that's all from our show.

And it also means if, if leaving, sort of scream-in-action star, Koi, would be great, but that's not what happened. The movie dudes podcast. I don't know what it was, but Fantastic Four, for me, was kind of all right. The individual characters are great, but this movie had virtually no action. And I feel like the way to do that. Okay. I love the way you express yourself there. I disagree thoroughly.

I disagree as well. There was, in my opinion, the right amount. of action because again, I stand by the fact that the Fantastic Four, even though you have some of, like in Sue and Johnny, I would argue, two of the most powerful characters in Marvel when they're really pushing their powers, the Fantastic Four are not so popular just because they're just out here smacking people around. It's because of the teamwork and how smart the team especially Reed is, and that's the focus. Like, the main thing is always the dynamics between the for them and how that's going.

So it actually felt like the perfect amount for me. But I like earned action. I don't like that's my problem with these Marvel movies. It's like just watching the marvels. It's like there's tons of action in the marvels. It's boring as shit because they don't earn it. And just a bunch of fight scenes and you're like, who cares? It's like by the time you get and I actually disagree with you.

There's a ton of action, even in stuff that they show in flashback stuff. And then what you get in act two leading up to act three, which is just like, stimulation overload um i like that type of storytelling because i cared when it's just a bunch of action scenes it is it's a bunch of pupeu stuff and it just like i'm just not invested yeah no i agree with you um he follows it up i like sue the best of the characters and i like the shell of l johnny scenes with the movie just left me underwhelm six six out of ten overall really oh okay um that's under three really you give it under three out of five or you just write at three right at three All right at three.

Okay. So he still puts it, we would still get a fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, but okay, I'm excited to see characters in future movies. Fair enough. Appreciate the, the opinion there,

movie, dude. All right. Next one here, 54 right now. It's in 54, as we're still building. Come on. 40 minutes left.

I feel like it's going to be a battle to the, to the end here. Kevin Liguardi, what's up, Kevin? Sad that I was disappointed. I like the movie and the cast overall, but in the end,

I feel the 828 world provided a way out for too many convenient solutions. Way out for too many convenient solutions. I'm not sure I understand. Yeah, it's without spoiling. He's trying not to spoil. I know what we're talking about in general, but it's, it's, it's, it's tough. Is there $80? Is that the Glaxis thing $80?

Yeah. It's huge. It's, it's, it is apparently nine leaders. Hold on a second. It is ginormous, bro. Who's spending $80 at a galactus popcorn butter? I found out that that Herbie one was the same thing as about $70, 80.

People actually sell that money out. I'm looking at it. I mean, I wouldn't buy it, but it looks pretty cool. Yeah, I see it. I mean, yeah, if I brought that home, I'd be sleeping on the couch. Oh, here we go. Herbie popcorn bucket, $75 comes with drink popcorn and a candy.

Oh, shit. Wow. They really know. I mean, they really know how to get you. But as far as, I mean, again, same thing I said before. I appreciate the opinion. I don't agree with it. I actually think that it works. It was so much more refreshing with putting it on a different world. Poot, shoot, Ryan. Sadly, no $80 popcorn bucket, but the movie did beat me off. Did you see that?

Did you see that? Why are he saying that? The Avatar trailer? No, no, no. There was a review of Four Fantastic Four. that someone said the movie beat you off or something. Avatar trailer. What? Yeah. Avatar trailer was fire and that Liam Nees and PSA about comedy fiction was hilarious.

It was so great. I didn't see the Avatar trailer yet. The Avatar trailer was very good. I still stand in a world where I don't get the hype about Avatar. Yeah. I enjoyed Way of Water. And I'm sure I will enjoy this, but I don't get why it is for some people the greatest thing that's ever happened. It just doesn't click for me like that.

I just don't feel like there's anything out there. Like I have to see these movies in the theater. I don't feel like any other experience that I've ever had watching movies that tops the way Avatar makes me feel as far as visually. Being part, like I feel like I'm in. I feel like I'm there every single time I'm watching it. And that's why I get excited for it. And I get locked in. It's a bummer, obviously, that we lost the great James Horner,

but I thought they did a great job in the score of the second time around. I'm very hyped for that movie. And I haven't even seen the trailer. I can't wait. Yeah. No, I, which I got to ask this because you're going to screener, so this probably isn't happening to you.

Do you know that they are showing commercials in between trailers now? In between trailers? Meaning like you would go in if you were super early, right? They'll show some little random. Yeah, you feel like the Sprite commercials and all that stuff first. So then they show the trailer. So now they start where they'll show one or two trailers.

Then they'll actually show a commercial you have seen on TV. then they'll show another one or two trailers, then they'll show another effing commercial. Then they'll show like the AMC, welcome home. Then they'll show another commercial. You know what that is, right? What?

That's because it's like similar like when you have, when sponsors come in for any show, this show, they don't want the, they don't want the thing to be played at the end of the video, or they don't want it. It's something they only play it before the show starts. Right.

Because nobody's watching. You got to play it like right as like in the, in the middle of it because it's like, but I, hate it though. I understand, but I got to be like, bro, I pay for A-LIS. Where is my version where I just get to sit down and watch my trailers and watch my movie?

This is, what are we doing? That's a good way to get people to just show up right as the thing starts. Servitor. Seuss-Powers felt off. More TK than telekinesis than horse fields. I understand what you're saying,

but I think when people dive into her powers, they're a lot deeper than you realize. including the fact that people have said multiple times, Sue is so deadly. If she wanted to, she could literally make a force field in your brain and give you an aneurism.

Like she has always shown that her powers go beyond just the straight force fields. Sure. So I like the way that they portrayed her powers in this one. Isaiah Smith really enjoyed Fantastic Four. I feel like it had 10, 20 more minutes. Really like how the space stuff felt more sci-fi than usual. I have to see it.

I have to. you got to see it an iMac yes yes it just really really worked um clip champ razor as someone that just got married about the start of family this movie hits home with so many ways definitely i can see that for sure leaning into reeds uh neurodivergence was huge absolutely absolutely and i like that's what i liked i liked that they gave him that angle and i thought pedger did a great job is i think so too and i think the thing about it that always gets missed by people in that regard when you're that smart a lot of times you can't relate to other people.

Like you have moments where, and they focused on that where he is never ill-intentioned, but because he is the smartest man in the room, he is thinking about every single possible reality and the way you could go and how that can actually hurt people sometimes, even just having the thoughts.

So, yeah, I thought it was good. John DX Dragon, hey guys, happy Friday. What are you most excited to see regarding the 2026 lanterns or DCU as a whole? Also, do you think that, the visuals for Lantern Supergoal will exceed Superman stay safe. I mean, as far as the visuals go, I don't know, because you got the king of the castle running the visuals in Superman.

You know, who knows? Maybe, maybe I don't think so as far as visuals go. What I'm looking forward to the most is lanterns in 2026. And I'm looking for that true detective type feel because I like both the actors that they got. And I want to be invested in this world and learn a little bit more about them. I believe Winston, I believe Koi, that I'm going to enjoy the woman of tomorrow storyline. I believe all of you guys who have read it and tell me that. But right now, all I know is what I saw, and I'm not, I'm not, I'm going to see the movie,

obviously, but I'm just not hyped for that movie yet, but lanterns I'm hyped for. I'm very curious when they finally go trailer, which, oh, I don't know if this had already come out. I feel like it did at some con, but the, just speaking of, trailers the Odyssey did they did like a small little teaser trailer did you yeah good I was confused because I was like did this come out and I just didn't see it no it didn't release it neither one of those has been released on online yet they showed it it was good man I was like oh snap we do and he even did the same thing he did with Oppenheimer he's like one year from today it's going

down all tickets on it all right Matthew Garrett first that's not true about why people didn't seize Thunderbolts here we go we reject Disected Disney Marvel on mass as they pushed agendas most of America's agreement. It's a trend will continue. Okay, well then explain Deadpool Wolverine. So you're wrong. Explain Deadpool Wolverine.

That came out, that came out beforehand. Well, not only Disney Marvel, what, Lilo and Stitch? Like, if there's been a full rejection of Disney and Marvel. Well, Disney and Marvel, right. So, no, that's not the case. I'm not telling you that's not the case for some people. Definitely. Definitely some people are just like,

ah, you know what, I'm done with Disney. him done with what they did. But it's not the reason why people didn't see Thunderbolts. People didn't see The Thunderbol. They didn't know what the hell it was. And most people didn't even know what it knew nothing about it and didn't watch the shows. So I disagree. John DX Dragon,

do you guys think that Lantern's being a show was a good idea regarding the lantern's mythology or should have gone, should have gone the movie route, thoughts. No. If he wants to dive deep into it, if he wants to dive deep into it and it does really well, you can do a movie later on. But dive deep into the mystery and show,

us a little more. I like that they're doing an HBO Mac show. I think that it was smart, especially from the standpoint of there is so much lore. Think about if Game of Thrones, they just decided to do a series of movies. There were too many characters. There are too many storylines. A show made sense. So you go

at it from a super high quality standpoint, flush it out, and then when you're ready to let John Stewart have a solo, or Howl's last ride, or whatever, and you want to do a movie that way, I think that's great. But I think this is the right move personally. Yeah.

Who who's it? All right, let's see. So as far as lanterns goes, I'm excited for that one for sure. And we'll see. 2026 are going to have some good stuff. Fingers crossed. Okay.

Next one after that is the DX Batman. Currently at 63 Wednesday, you're getting closer with a half an hour left. Come on, yo. Pushing it to the wire. Come on, you. DX Batman. Incredible. few weeks for movies. I watched Mission Impossible, F1, Superman, and Fantastic Four, Back to Formula.

Back to Formula. There's a lot of a lot of really good movies out there right now. It's a good choices that we're getting back to. So yeah, that is a great, a great list. For me, I'm still, I'm still battling right now if I made my list, I wouldn't know where, If I put sinners at number one today, I could put F1 there tomorrow. I need to watch F1 again because I've seen sinners twice.

I need to see it again, but those are my two right now. It's definitely sinners at number one for me. Yeah. I'd probably go sinners. Thunderbolts F1, Fantastic for Superman. I haven't seen Mission Impossible. Okay. let's see just left a screening in fantastic four the jack where we quote got me at the end it was great

yeah that was really good i was surprised they didn't have the last minute throw uh julian's name in there as an rip because you know because you know he passed right yeah yeah yeah uh let's see nathan drake winston i know you brought that new silox skin i haven't seen it yet but i've heard i've heard things so we might do that tonight on the stream i'll tell you that much I bought my IMAX tickets after seeing everyone speak so positively about it. Sitting a little too close to the screen, hopefully it doesn't climb my brain. I can't do it. I can't.

There's a, there's a threshold for me that if, if it's in a, like I want to say row six or forward because of what it does, I just say the screening is full. I am always there early, especially the press screens because they're not, you don't, because if you have, um, is, you know, you can't reserve your seats. The press screens, you always have to get there early. So Sarah and I got there really early. And I always, IMAX, I'm always in the last row for IMAX, always. I just cannot, I just cannot be in the front. If I ever have to go, if I ever have to go in the front, I probably leave and try to come back at a different time because I can't enjoy the movie that way. I just can't do it.

Yeah, Jake, hold on, Jake. The trailer is at my Fantastic Four. screenings were strange there was an apple bees commercial in between the odyssey and avatar trailers action fire looks amazing that's so it wasn't apple bees for me i want to say it was the it was the indeed one where it's like so was it competitive or is it competitive i was like are you kidding me right now yeah no thanks uh Nathan drake christian your favorite comedy sequel is dumb and dumber too that is incorrect that was a very forgettable movie and disappointing Timbino, how painful was it to rewatch the marvels?

It wasn't great. It was not, it wasn't, it wasn't great. I felt exactly the same way, though, that I felt about it when I saw it in the theater. I went back and I actually watched my out of the theater reaction to see if it was like, did I feel the same way? There's other things that I said. I felt exactly the same way. There are things that set up in the beginning.

I'm like, this is fine. It's not good, but it's fine. Then you get to that planet and it just all goes downhill. And the villain is just so non-existent and certain choices, the characters make the chemistry between them is good i said that in the end of the theater and i said again and i thought i thought there's a lot of stuff that they did well it's just not great but hopefully people go and check that out uh ayesha support thank you iisha good to see you yeah yeah i need to 67 right now Winston oh she's coming oh we're getting close coming in hot uh lots of support

from iisha she wants to see get that win a couple of look at so this is this is like the new crystal um okay hashus fernandez watched fantastic four on wednesday really really fun i hope that marvel reboots that they're planning ends up in that earth it's what i said the style makes you feel so unique and fun i can see them excellent working there i'm with you i am with you i hope that they do that people aren't are going to are yelling at us though man i don't think that they agree yeah more support then i just i i i don't i don't know i don't know for i doubt we're coming back here permanently. We might have to come here for a minute, but I don't think we're going back here permanently. No, we've been in a different world, though. Aisha, that's what she said.

And Tyler Pfeiffer, I meant Batman and Beyond, not Raven the Bolt. Yeah, I just, it's, I don't know what he's doing. I don't know what he's doing as far as, you know, with Batman. And only he knows what he's doing yet with Batman. If he wants to go younger, I still think he should go younger. I think that way you lock him in for a while. younger would be smart because you need you need this person to be around for a long time iisha likes donuts thank you iisha she like manglish she likes chupacabra thank you thank you i used you going hard in the pain i love it one luke fly walker i don't know how much they play it up in interviews i feel no chemistry between reed and sue really really that was the thing i

felt the most interesting wow overall i like the movie and had a fun time but very miscast okay i disagree with you on that i yeah very much disagree, but that's your opinion. I can't hate you for your opinion, but. Yeah, I definitely bought it between the two of them because of the way that even there's certain times she's like, because I know you. I know that's what you're thinking. I was like, oh, these, this is, I've had this conversation with my wife.

A thousand percent, bro. Where your, where your woman reads you fully fulfilled and you're just like, and, and I've been in that business. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying. I thought it, but I'm not acting on it. And it's like, well, the fact that you.

even thought it is the problem and I'm like what? Yeah, I disagree with that. You're a brilliantly past and I thought that they worked. Wonderful. We get it. Chankless, Lories. Okay. Terrific.

You can ask questions here, too, if you want. Tyler Fifeer, what is your relationship with this is Spinal Tap? The trailer for the new one released yesterday. I probably have to watch the first one. I don't know if I've ever really watched it. I don't know if I've ever watched the original spinal tap. I was thinking about that. People love it.

And I just never really was like in like a, a huge fan of it because I never I don't think I've ever seen it I'm very aware of it it's like some of people's favorite so the new trailer dropped and I didn't watch it because I was like I don't think I'm familiar enough with it but my friend David Gambino was like you watch this final trap two trailer I'm like no um but it's not the same thing except I probably have to go watch the first one Levi T confession I bought the galactus bucket all right it's actually good displaying it next to my wolverine f light bucket and the dunacy bucket it's clobbering time you'll have a great weekend was due the first

one to come out with these poppers? The dunesie? Yeah. I believe so. That was, at least that was the one that went so hard in the paint that then all of a sudden they were like, there is a lot of money to be made here. Like, they were doing them, but I don't think they really popped off until that sandworm thing.

And then what, they had the SNL sketch about it and whatnot. Right. That was it after that. Yeah. So, I mean, now, now you have this trend. So it's like a collector. thing. So, um, sell X 23, watching Fantastic 4 this weekend on screen X. Question, do you think we get the Namor Sue story? Spidey animation was a good watch.

So I'm assuming the name or so to be, I don't, well, I don't know because they said he's coming back. Yeah. I think you might. Okay. Um, especially once all these characters are in the same universe together, right. I think that that certainly could happen, especially if you're dealing with a, a sue that we saw even though things ultimately are fine between the two of them. We saw a moment where she got genuinely mad at him. So just enough to sow some like

a little bit of like, I'm kind of pissed at my man and Namor's over here trying to be like, what's up, girl? What you won't? Like, you know, so I can see it. Okay. Grim Bear 13. Campi has been ranting about how many trailers and now the extra ads before at AMC. I did see his Facebook post on it. My local was like 30 minutes of trailers and now ads. It really sucks.

It's not fair if you're planning out like a night, right? If you have like, if you're like, okay, this movie starts, it used to be able to say we starts at 6 o'clock. But I will give, I will give them credit the one thing that they have actually started doing and they advertise it on the site and on the app. This movie will have somewhere between 25 and 30 minutes of pre. Okay, that's good that they do that.

Because it can throw off if you have a date, you know, the stuff, you have a dinner. You can be sitting at dinner. now. Like, he used to be like, okay, if you have dinner first and it's, you know, you're, you sit down to six o'clock in movies at seven. If you're close by the theater, you really can go into like seven o'clock, seven, 15 if you wanted to and be fine. I think the other thing that they're doing, if I'm, if I'm just calling a spade of spade, I think because of the popcorn buckets, because they now have like bars and almost every AMC, things like that, and because

those lines are getting excessively long, I think doing that also buys you time to have people be at the concessions as much as they want and whatnot, you know? Yeah. This next one is from a real douche. Brett Sheridan, his channel. That's his channel. That's the actual Brett Sheridan. He just reduced his rate for me by five bucks.

He said, have you guys caught up on the viral videos of the world famous to Brett Sheridan channel? A lovely Aussie tribute dropped Wednesday. He did a new episode out now. You should go check out. Brett's almost, Brett's had almost 800 subscribers. We've got to get Brett to a thousand. Come on.

Let's go, Brett, spend five bucks to advertise on the channel. Go over there and go. I already did, but let me make sure I'm a shame. It's easy. That Brett Sheridan,

just go on over there, subscribe to it. He did. He called me the day. He was worried because he was like, let should I do the Aussie thing. It's like, down depressing.

It's like, dude, it's you loving it and you're being emotional about it. You should do it. And he really subscribed. How's it doing? Look at his Ozzy video. How's it doing?

Let's see. Midnight RIP, Ozzy-3-2. Good. And he has like, and he's almost that, you know, 800 subscribers,

so that's good. So people go check out and support Brett. Absolutely. Armada 8. The CG in the Avatar trailer looks tremendous. I can't wait.

How successful do you think Predator Badlands is going to be? That's always the same kind of answer, right? Depends on how much a budget is. But people are liking that second trailer. I didn't see the second trailer. I didn't love the look of the predator. However, I like what Trashenberg did with Prey.

So I'm, I'm optimistic. But I think it'll do, I think it will do okay. The cyborg thing was interesting. Oh, I didn't see, you say, I didn't see anything as far as you watch the second trailer. That was what they played in. I didn't, because I didn't see the first trailer. Okay, great. So I thought that that was the first trailer, but there's like a cyborg.

Okay. Oh, interesting. No, I didn't see enough about it. But it's also great for him because he's getting a theatrical release now. because Prey wasn't theatrical. I saw it in that theater, but it wasn't, but it wasn't a theatrical release. Pat for president. Good luck, Pat. Hey, everyone, my dad and I had a super time watching Fantastic Four yesterday. We went to our local Regal. We enjoyed it so much and we turned around and went back in. It felt like an event film. I was so happy with Fantastic for him.

Glad you said that, Pat. You know, it was funny. In the screening, it felt like an event film. It felt like there was like a buzz in there and it felt like it was the first time I had felt that in quite a while. yeah ellis ellis does not love the front row by the front row no ellis does not love the front row he loves to get closer up but not the front row no um but anyway what do you think about uh fantastic for um in uh being an event film miss you did you feel that i think i think that we it felt like it in my move i got a little it's funny i don't know if i'm becoming an old crumudgeon myself but maybe it's just because of when the screening was i wasn't expecting this i

I had people the whole time, wow! And I was just like, okay, all right, chill, baby. Like, I get it. But like, damn, it's like two o'clock on a Thursday. Isn't even the fan event one. This is just a regular ass screening.

But no, I think, I think considering the cast, I think considering kind of what's on the line, I think that since this is a pretty big IP that hasn't really hit quite yet, I think this does feel like an event, an event film for sure. Okay, let's see. And then next one, Nathan Drake. Emma Frost is a thick queen in rivals.

You probably can never play rivals, because if your wife walks in on you playing, it would be like, Christian, what the hell are you doing? Yeah, right. Is it really, is it? What's going on in it? It's just, when I tell you that the creators of the game

really took kind of like the old school hooters model of, hey, man, if we make a solid game, But we also make sure every single character is cheeked up. People are going to be playing this for a long time. And they're doing summer skins now where all the characters are in like bathing suits. And the funny thing is they go both ways. They've got like Namor and like Thor in like thongs and like mankini's. But like just just ladies just booted cheeks everywhere, bro.

All right, there you go. Path of president. John Schnepp would have loved July of 2025. He absolutely would have 100%. Joey Pedrus, they're a member for nine months. Thank you, Joey. Happy for all of our members.

So we have something great things for you guys right now. I had zero excitement for Fantastic 4. Same. And after watching last night, I'm all in on Pedro and Fantastic 4 leading the MCU for a while. Same. Yeah. Yeah.

They did a good job of doing that. Pat for president, following it up. I wish Stanley could have been around to see this iteration of Fantastic 4. Same with Jack Kirby. They did it. They did them justice. It felt like it felt like that old school kind of feel for the both of them.

Yeah. Busy B. Happy Friday, Christian and Winston. Glad you both enjoy Fantastic Four. I'm not interested in the IP, but happy for everyone that's loving the film. Understood. I'm curious, though, busy, but once you see it, maybe you're not going to go spend the money at the theater. But when you see it on digital, maybe you will, maybe you want.

I'm curious to see if that changed your opinion. Because that's that busy because, like, understand, I think Christian said this as well. I don't typically care for the Fantastic Four. So I was going to see because of what I do, but I had so much fun with it. you have started to switch my my feelings on them because of it. Yeah. Let's see. See, now I don't know what they're talking about.

Oh, I guess when I said I never saw spinal tap and people couldn't believe that I never saw it. Pat for president. Next week is naked gun and that nice beaver bucket. There's a possibility I might get that. There's a, that's a nice beer bucket. Yeah, it's got to be. Legend MM 600. You guys rock.

Thank you. Going to Seamatastic Four. what to see. You got to go check it out and let me know when you see it, please. Zach knows Zach for, support for Christian. Christian, can I get a mustard? We don't have it anymore. I got rid of it. Mustard. Oh, thank you for the support. Yeah, just kidding.

Asseo Disney, Winston, I'll be watching the Agatha reaction. Can't wait. Are you doing an Agatha reaction? No, aren't you about to do an Agatha reaction? I think it was just saying hi like Hart Winston asking me if you said okay good can't wait also if you did oh your wife and Spider-Man I'm there thanks for being positive thank you

yeah I don't know if I knew the Spider-Man ones and I appreciate that and I believe that you would be there in the same way that look there are tons of people who said look you do smaller movies and I'll be there and those people show up but you know who doesn't show up everybody else and like I knew I there's two movies I did the new Paul Thomas Anderson with Leo I knew it would eat it. And it did, but I wanted to see it.

I wanted to watch it. So I did it. And the same thing with the Julie Roberts Luca movie. Same thing. But I might keep trying to showcase those movies. I don't want more people to see it. But as far as Agatha, Agatha is the one that I'm going to get pissy about because I've already reacted to it. And I saw it with my wife and I was, you got to show Sam.

You got to show Sam. I'm guaranteeing that it is going to be one of our lowest rated ones. I'm guaranteeing. is going to be one of our lowest rated watch series. And I hope I'm wrong. Because even Loki season two just did okay. You just put Marvels out. It's doing fine.

I think people want us to be done with MCU. I think they want us to get to other things. Sam's doing Lord of the Rings next. She can do Harry Potter. She can do Christopher Nolan. So that's the stuff I'm excited to do with her now too. We're almost done with Marvel. So hopefully people watch the Ag with the one.

We shall see. Tyler Pfeiffer. spinal tap reactions are doing well. That's awesome. I haven't seen the first one, so I'm not going to react to the second trailer because I don't I don't have any reference. You know what I mean? 81 right now, Winston.

81. Come on, you're so close. 12 minutes away, can you get? I told you just going to go down to the wall. Oh, my God. You need 103 to tie. Okay, so next one after that is Aisha. Most anticipated film for

H2. I'm looking forward to weapons I think for H2 is that for second half maybe I think year I would look if I'm going I'm gonna I'm gonna give you the two one big budget one small budget after avatar is my number one most anticipated big big budget after the hunt is my number one underneath um probably him the the the Jordan the Jordan Peel produced film I think that that's probably my number one most anticipated closing out. And other than that, honestly, even though I don't rock with musicals like that,

wicked too, wicked for good. They got me with the first one. So I'm also, and this is an honorable mention, just because I like these films, I'm anxiously interested in the third and now you see me. That's not this year, though. Yeah, it is. No way. It's November.

Are you sure? According to it. Maybe you're right. You very well could be right. And they showed it at CinemaCon, so you're probably 100% right, but let me see. November 14th. Isn't it really? Wow.

Wow. Okay, yeah, you're right. So let's see. August, let's see some of the movies that are coming out. August is really nothing huge, except caught stealing I want to see. September 5th is the Conjuring. That I'm definitely looking forward to. Spinal Tap 2 comes out September 12th.

People will be excited for that one. September 9th, the winter was talking about is him. September 26th, my little one is looking forward to Gabby's dollhouse, the movie. There's The Strangers, Chapters 2. One battle after another is September 26th. That's the Paul Thomas Anderson one. October 3rd is a smashing machine. That's up there for me.

Let's see. Tron Ares is October 10th. October 17th, Blackphone 2. After the Hunt comes out. October 17th, October 24th, Mortal Kombat 2, Springsteen, Delivered Me from Nowhere, is up there for me as well. We're going to do like a full-on fall movie preview on both my channel and Matt Serrish channel, too.

So, Busy B. Recently watched Arrival, it's one of my favorite movies. And I have to say, what a unique alien design. Are there any unique creature designs that have been both memorable to you guys? That's a really good one. I have to really think about it. I mean, I think that what they did for the, um, stranger things pretty damn good. Vecna was pretty good.

That was really good. Uh, you know, I will throw it back and say, I know it's cheating because it's a lot of different aliens, but like the OG men in black. Sure. I thought like what they did with the roach was really interesting, uh, you know. Well, yeah, the predator then too, right? Stan Winston's predator. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Uh, Busy B also just support for Winston. Thank you. You busy, be appreciated. 86. Oh my God, y'all. Come on. Jake, should do the extended Lord of the Rings and just not tell Sam.

Only kidding, but never been so excited for reaction series, especially the watch-along cuts. If I could get her in here for four hours, it's hard enough to this. The poor woman, she was on the road with her, with her daughter. And I mean, I guess, I guess this isn't, I guess I can bring this up. She won't get upset. But, you know, you know, there was that, there was that shooting outside of that church, a couple a little like not too long ago like Sam and then the shooter went into the convention center

that's where her daughter was playing basketball. Jesus Christ. I got it. They think you know everybody was okay inside of the convention center. I got her. So Sam obviously very stressed out, all that stuff. And then she goes through, she travels with her daughter to pass her daughter. Daughter's like a superstar basketball player. And then she got back. She got sick. So we were supposed to do a bunch of shoots. We should be done with the MCU right now. We were supposed to do, Agatha yesterday or two days ago and today. She couldn't come in. So there's a possibility that we won't have an MCU reaction until next,

like the later of next week, Sam's just been ill. So once we get to Lord of the Rings and looking for that too, but it's going to be impossible for me to do the extended customer care. Matt Krugman, working on a summer Walter video right now, heard buzz that Trillis Studios is in Atlanta trying to get Marvel to come back and offer them an amusement park down here as part of the deal.

We'll see. I mean, you got to get the deal. You got to get that deal sweetened. Absolutely, man. Yeah. Busy B. If I do go see it, I'll let you know. Please.

Please, too. 87. Joe for show, do Fantastic Corps make you more excited for doomsday? One hundred. Absolutely. Yes, 100%. Matt, Pugman, Summer Walker. Hell yeah.

I didn't see it, but did you, I mean, hearing him. I wanted to. I wanted to, but, but it's funny because, like, I'm not upset about the idea of wanting to do things with Kristen, but she doesn't watch South Park. I knew that this was going to be a big deal. I've always been a huge South Park fan, and she was like, I really want to watch this episode with you. And I was like, I don't watch South Park. I was like, I know, but like, I heard good things. And I was like, so now I'm waiting for her and just driving to be crazy.

I'm not doing that on your channel. Oh, that idea. South Park episode was Rutha says the Zwada 316. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's been everywhere. So, no, I haven't seen it. I saw clips, clips are hilarious. ZB 73, despite Winston's spoiling Paul Walter Houser's role in Fantastic Four, I'm still giving you support.

Huh? His announcement for casting was happened a long time ago. Levi G. 83, support for Winston. Thank you. Thank you. Come on, guys. Oh, my God. We're so close.

Six minutes. Busy B. I told you, you're going to be down to the wire. Busy B is a horror fan. Weapons is my most. I see that a week from Monday, Busybee. Oh, I want to see it. I don't, you know I hate horror.

You saw Barbarian, right? I never saw Barbarian. Oh, I didn't either. So I'm going to watch that with Tina next week. We just watched K-pop, demon hunters, and then we're going to watch Barbarian. Nice. Yeah. Nathan, the big Roach, CGI in Men and Black still holds up.

I haven't seen it in so long. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, because the other thing, too, was that they had the puppetry for that very first alien at the beginning of the movie too like that because it was because spielberg was was ep on it there there's just a lot of really good stuff in there yeah uh okay blaine 103 support for winston nothing like being off work on friday and watching capes and cows leading hot dog sideways enjoy lizzie enjoy grim bear 13 mid credit scene gave me chills for four minutes absolutely

it uh asio disney support for winston let's do this people come on y'all come on y'all f the world DC started putting out smaller compact versions of some of their classic stories to compete with manga sales. Do you think manga movie adaptations will be ever become a big thing like superheroes are in the U.S.? The only way to say yes definitively is if whatever is captured on that for the first time and done successfully. You know what I mean? You got to do it once and you got to whatever the story is like really saying, oh, look at the story we put together, made it a really successful live action. and then everybody else will follow. All right.

Last one for now. Almost, almost last one. Busy B. Barreman was a crazy ride as a first watch. Pat for president, I have a feeling that fantastic four will exceed box office expectations.

135 to 140. That's a big number. That's pretty big. I think one to one 30 is. But domestically seems where it could go. Maybe so. That's a, I mean,

tracking has been off by a lot sometimes. So it's not an outrageous claim, Pat. Mr. I, crap and sheds. No spoiler, but I love the subplot with Johnny Storm. He's not just a dumb frat boy overall. Yeah, me too. I love the movie. Black is so good. Two more right now. Aisha with support. See, C Black. I think Dr. Doom will be a problem. A lot of characters will probably die. You would hope so if they're going to make him devastating. He's got to be, he's got to make Thanos look like a bitch. He has to do the same thing Thanos did. The true

introduction to Thanos was we just finished Ragnarok. All of a sudden the ship is caught in Thanos' crosshairs. We open up to Infinity War and he is slapping around Thor and Hynoe and Loki and Hulk. Yeah. Did he be throwing in some support? Asio Disney.

Winston, you want to build a snowman? Always, man. I'm from Texas. We never get no snow. So currently, currently Winston, 100. We're at 100? We're at 100. We did four. We need four. We need four people

I'm about to sign off We got three minutes to get foe Please you give your plug You give your plug I will do my plug Very No no no Don't do that

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Most likely, let me take a quick. I will tweet about it. So again, at the Swaggy Board, most likely it'll be at 6 o'clock Pacific time this evening and I'll be going for a while. All right, let's see, Aisha, Joey, Aisha, got rest right, crap and shit. PLD's even coming in to help over Roxy. Look at that. And then some Levi thrown in some support.

Winston wins at 107. Boom! Let's go! Foxy defeats Roxy, who was hanging on strong all week since Tuesday.

Big, well, playing the midget. Let's go, baby. Winston did it. It's so funny because, like, the people who have that you can see, like, who the champions the players are in this game, right? You, uh, Roxy and Poy, obviously, and Roka. Those are the usual players.

The, the, um, I guess like the last play, the last place teams right now are Steph. And which is crazy because step used to be one of the top. Steph used to just destroy, bro. Steph, Steph, Steph is doing top dogs. And then Chris Carr and Brett are the bad work here. Yeah. No, I agree. And Mike, Mike is.

No, Mike, Mike jumps on the Tuesday shows now. And with Ron. I didn't realize he was doing a lot of the Tuesday shows Mike jumps on two Mike Mike gets quite a bunch of victories Mike Mike's not Mike's one of those people like he's like Alex Rodriguez he just jumps from team to team yeah no I feel you I I really appreciate y'all that this happened because especially you would think there's only the what like three or four superhero movies that come out of year nowadays that those would be the automatic layups for like coy and I and the last few it's always been rocks he just because of screening stuff

Y'all ask the questions. Roxy and look, Roca's got a shot for next week because of the fantastic four spoiler discussion. But we'll see. We'll see what is going to happen. But you guys did it. You got Winston to 107.

Thank you, everybody. Big victory here for the swaggy blurred. So, guys, thank you for being here. Thank you for all of you. We will be back here on Monday with myself and Rocha, going over spoilers for the Fantastic Four. so if you haven't seen the movie, make sure you go check it out this weekend. And that's it.

So for myself, Winston, A Marshall, see you guys on the flip side. Bye again, everybody.